The greatest moral challenge of our time

It’s all excellent, but the best part may be where one of those scientifically-ignoramus politicians sneers at the speaker for being a philosopher. Her answer is quite instructive as well: “try running for the Senate on your platform”. That is her philosophy and it has nothing to do with what is right or moral. Just what sells.

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39 Responses to The greatest moral challenge of our time

  1. memoryvault

    Great stuff. Thanks Steve.

  2. Rossini

    What a well thought out commentary by Mr. Epstein.
    Compared to Sen Boxer “Chairwoman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works” who should think a little more realistically before she opens her…….

  3. C.L.

    She certainly does need to be told how to think clearly.

    Barbara Boxer is a mentally deficient and evil whore. And a total easybeat as well.
    She was destroyed by Rick Santorum in 1999 when, under questioning, he got her to um and ah on whether a baby could be slaughtered if its foot was still inside the mother-in-labour.

    The transcript is a classic:

    http://www.nrlc.org/archive/abortion/pba/notansweringboxersantorum.html

  4. Lem

    Yes Senator Boxer, life would be much easier for politicians if there were no philosophers.

  5. handjive

    12.30: “Energy is the industry that powers every other industry.

    “Every aspect … you can’t even isolate one because it is the cost of your food, the cost of your clothing, the cost of your shelter, the success of your business, your ability to take a vacation, the cost of all the different modern miracles, the cost of your healthcare, they’re all tied to energy.”

  6. Tel

    Ahh! There he is, I was wondering what he was up to. Well spotted Professor Kates.

  7. gabrianga

    Thanks for that C.L. Boxer being boxed in, makes pleasant reading.

  8. Oh my, that transcript of Boxer is something to behold. What a lying malevolent turd.

  9. jupes

    Alex Epstein – what a champion.

    He knows his subject, is articulate and best of all doesn’t mince his words. He told those senators exactly what they needed to hear.

    It is a good thing that the old harridan Boxer had to listen to him.

  10. Lem

    Modern energy services are crucial to human well-being and to a country’s economic development; and yet globally 1.2 billion people are without access to electricity and more than 2.7 billion people are without clean cooking facilities. More than 95% of these people are either in sub-Saharan African or developing Asia, and around 80% are in rural areas. Source IEA

    and yet, the first Nobel Peace Laureate to get the prize before actually doing anything, said this:

    Instead of just telling Africa, you’re on your own, in dealing with climate change, we’re delivering new tools and financing to more than 40 African nations to help them prepare and adapt. By harnessing the wind and sun, your vast geothermal energy and rivers for hydropower, you can turn this climate threat into an economic opportunity. And I urge Africa to join us in rejecting old divides between North and South so we can forge a strong global climate agreement this year in Paris. Because sparing some of the world’s poorest people from rising seas, more intense droughts, shortages of water and food is a matter of survival and a matter of human dignity.

    Source: Remarks by President Obama to the people of Africa.

    Meanwhile. East Coast US helps those starving Africans rise out of poverty

    Results.

  11. Fred Lenin

    This boxer prat is very strong evidence of the Total Corruption of career politics ,and tge uselessness of political parties . They do not give a stuff about the voters is all about them and enriching them selves .tge answer is one term in parliament ,then barred for life , strict controls on political lies and punisment for non performance . Donations limited to $100 per person or organisation per year. Non deductable . Donations over this punished by ten years jsil for donor and recipients ,with no remission . Let tge political animals go back to honest crime. Like shopliftinf ,housebreaking .

  12. JC

    Wow. Great young guy. I love how he didn’t mince words with the evil harridan.

  13. jupes

    I love how he didn’t mince words with the evil harridan.

    No worries, any time JC.

  14. ella

    When confronted with the pseudo-intellectual stupidity of the West’s politicians, stating the obvious is imperative.

    In philosophy, questioning the truth of dogmatic assertions is essential.

    The early Greek philosophers called into question the dogmatic assertions, made by politicians, that it was the Gods responsible for failure of crops, losses in battle, and inclement weather. The Greek philosophers speculated that it was not the Gods, it was something they called ‘nature.’

    Gaia, the primal Greek goddess, is worshipped again.

    The American philosopher remained polite and calm when confronted with the incoherent nonsense of a smug, narrow-minded, female philistine offering him hemlock.

    There is no science without philosophy.

    It was a great win for the Americans at the end of 2015, when young American philosopher,
    Matthew H. Slater, won the Karl Popper award, granted by the British Journal, Philosophy of Science – open to scientists and/or philosophers.

  15. JC

    Shut up jupes.

    Get back to the open thread and fulminate against muzzos, you nog

  16. cohenite

    True, what he said; the buffoon in the White House has fostered total bullshit about climate and energy.

  17. cohenite

    Carbon pollution says Boxer. What an idiot.

  18. phil

    What makes me sad – and I mean sad rather than angry is that most of what he is saying especially in terms of the economics of energy is not ideologically motivated, or political, or at all tendentious. It is just completely obvious, and the rest of the world has become so enervated and stupid that they can’t see it.

  19. Hydra

    What makes me sad – and I mean sad rather than angry is that most of what he is saying especially in terms of the economics of energy is not ideologically motivated, or political, or at all tendentious. It is just completely obvious, and the rest of the world has become so enervated and stupid that they can’t see it.

    Well put Phil

  20. wmmbb

    The Environment and Public Works committee can’t find scientists, so they have to resort to “a philosopher”. The next thing you know they will be taking submissions from economists. Mr Epstein on his own testimony is funded by the fossil fuel lobby. Don’t expect any other philosopher with an alternative view to appear before the committee. I am so disappointed there were no snowballs in evidence.

  21. Leo G

    “Every aspect of your life … you can’t even isolate one because it is the cost of your food, the cost of your clothing, the cost of your shelter, the success of your business, your ability to take a vacation, the cost of all the different modern miracles, the cost of your healthcare, they’re all tied to energy.”

    It’s not hard to argue those costs aren’t just “tied” to energy, but that the real cost of those items is the energy of their conception, production, distribution and the energy applied to offset associated externalities.
    Ancient understandings of the origin of the world are framed by a belief that nothing moved in the universe until there was light, light scientists understand as manifest energy.
    Unfortunately, Senator Boxer cannot see the light because a handful of scientists have told her that it is really darkness.

  22. Biota

    So wmmbb, like Boxer you don’t like the bloke but you have no substantial argument against the facts he presents.

  23. Kingsley

    Boxer truly had nothing. Pity Inhofe didn’t say if I get a scientist to 100% endorse Epsteins testimony will you accept it then?

  24. gabrianga

    Just catching up with Australia’s Government subsidised “cheap” energy source

    Homeowners in Australia Are Furious With Their Power Companies
    by Live Smarter Daily.
    Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016

    Warning: Do not pay your next energy bill until you read this…

    This is the 1 simple truth your power company doesn’t want you to know.

    There is a new policy in that qualifies home-owners who live in specific post codes to be eligible for $1000’s of Government funding to install solar panels.

    Has your power company told you that?

    When home-owners check whether they qualify at 3Quotes many are shocked that subsidies and rebates a lot of costs associated with installation.

    With a lot of help from the government. you could be on your way to significantly reducing your electric bill in a matter of weeks.

    Sarah Parker, the authority on everything related to Solar Energy replacement, set out to do some research and determine whether this new program lives up to its reputations.

    After several weeks Sarah was able to report back on her findings, with her most exciting of which being that she is now going to save $183.18 a month on her own energy bill,and there are many other people who have done the same and better.

    WTF is going on in this country with Lord W. pissing in De Natale’s waterproof pockets whilst announcing (daily) the demise of the mining industry?

  25. sabrina

    Is Boxer a scientist? If not (even if she is, so what? We know our famous warming spruiker scientist), how can she question Alex’s background as a philosopher?
    Idiots infiltrate politics, everywhere.

  26. faceache

    Dear wmmbb, I suggest you watch the podcast again. He actually says he is NOT funded by fossil fuel companies. Go on , watch it again. I dare you. He did say tho that he gives talks to energy companies. He might even get paid by them for the work involved. Shock, horror.

  27. faceache

    Hey Gabrianga, our last power bill was $18.00. This time last year it was $180.00. But even then it will still take 5 years for us to break even, even with the subsidy we got. And then there is the possibility of repair costs if something not covered by warranty goes wrong.

  28. cohenite

    faceache

    #2005261, posted on April 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    Dear wmmbb dickhead, I suggest you watch the podcast again. He actually says he is NOT funded by fossil fuel companies.

  29. ella

    “The Environment and Public Works committee can’t find scientists, so they have to resort to “a philosopher”. The next thing you know they will be taking submissions from economists. Mr Epstein on his own testimony is funded by the fossil fuel lobby. Don’t expect any other philosopher with an alternative view to appear before the committee. I am so disappointed there were no snowballs in evidence.”

    Stating the obvious, it is not unusual for philosophers to have more than one university qualification. Scientists sometimes defect to philosophy.

    Ultimately it does not matter if the funding comes from Kentucky Fried Chicken. What does matter is one’s justifications.

    Einstein may have been funded by Robinson’s Jam. Ultimately all that mattered was his equations.

  30. faceache

    Seems like comprehension is lacking these days. Mr. Epstein said “NOW I DON’T HAPPEN TO BE FUNDED BY ANYBODY since I am an independent speaker and writer. But I am very proud that I sell books to and give speeches to fossil fuel companies” I cannot find where he contradicted himself.As far as being a philosopher is concerned, scientists used to be called “natural philosophers”. Isaac Newton wrote a little book (took me ten years to read) called “Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy”.

  31. ella

    faceache – I heard quite clearly what Alex Epstein said with respect to funding. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter.

  32. Cpt Seahawks

    I washed our panels on the roof with a mop. Good adrenalin rush plus increase in efficiency I reckon. Aarrrr

  33. .

    …admitting you are a Carlton fan.

    I, am a Carlton fan.

    Kudos please.

  34. faceache

    ella, at 10.16 into the podcast he says what I have quoted. It only concerns me that someone else might pick up on the error and discredit what he was saying. It just shows how people hear what they want to hear or what they expect. At 10.16 you can find out he was not funded by those nasty fossil fuel folk. Ultimately, his independence matters.

  35. AP

    I washed our panels on the roof with a mop. Good adrenalin rush plus increase in efficiency I reckon. Aarrrr

    Another fatal risk associated with unreliables.

    I demand that the gummint legislate for homeowners to have to employ professional solar panel cleaners, lest the cost of falls from height becomes socialised through medicare.

    This argument works for smoking, bike helmets etc.

  36. Tel

    Is Boxer a scientist? If not (even if she is, so what? We know our famous warming spruiker scientist), how can she question Alex’s background as a philosopher?

    You could look it up, but she has a degree in Economics, and some experience working as a stockbroker and a journalist. Other than that, professional politician. She has written a few books, but I’ll group that activity in with being a professional politician, seems to go with the territory.

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