… and David too

I suspect the it is old news, but still good news: David Leyonhjelm has been re-elected as Senator for NSW.

Alas Gabe Buckley was pipped at the post in Queensland by a second One Nation candidate.

The net result of the double dissolution election seems to be that Lazarus, Muir, Wang and Madigan are gone, but we now have four One Nation senators, and 2 more Nick Xenophon senators. Lambie survives.

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65 Responses to … and David too

  1. Nelson Kidd-Players says:

    What was Chairman Maol’s goal, again?

    Still, I guess we have to wait for the Senate terms to be decided.

  2. Baldrick says:

    Good news indeed.

    So what was the point of the Lord Kardashian/Greens Senate reforms? All for nought.

  3. Lem says:

    I’m not surprised Buckley didn’t get in. For a start LDP are quite hopeless at getting their ideas out, or even setting up a website that explains where they are coming from.

    Sorry Dot, but you people of all should understand how a market works. And the biggest market in town is the get-into-government-gig.

  4. 2dogs says:

    To pass legislation that both the ALP and the Greens oppose, the coalition now requires the support of two independent senators, plus having both NXT and One Nation agree.

    Consider what both Nick Xenophon and Pauline Hanson agree on. That’s the next three years. Not a comforting thought.

  5. Perth Trader says:

    I watched Malcolm Roberts of One Nation being interviewed today and he quietly impressed me. He managed the journo’s , answered all questions and looked at ease.

  6. Tom says:

    Lazarus, Muir, Wang and Madigan are gone

    I struggle to see a downside.

    Except Lambie.

  7. I am the Walras, Equilibrate, and Price-Take says:

    Bob and David. That’s a start.

  8. Tom says:

    Congratulations to David Leyonhjelm. No need to keep trawling for Green votes, David. They weren’t what got you over the line; in fact, wasting time on indulgences for the 2% like SSM cost you. Reducing big government is the issue that resounds with the proletariat.

  9. 2dogs says:

    We need to be telling people to number every box above the line in the senate. We got too many Greens in on partial quotas due to exhausted preferences.

  10. candy says:

    One Nation’s success comeback success is outstanding, reflects confusion and unhappiness in the electorate.

    If Cory Bernardi had taken action to form a Conservative Party before, this would have been him, with greater representation.

    It is very easy for him to espouse his views from within the comfort of the Turnbull Party, but I ponder if looking at Pauline Hanson’s success, he wonders what could have been/could be?

  11. Hydra says:

    Except Lambie.

    At least Lambie is honest.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Congrats to DL. I hope he can add some fiscal probity to the Senate.
    Climbing Mt Everest would be easier, so maybe he should contemplate doing that during a Senate session break.

  13. Jumpnmcar says:

    Fiskys still happy, Talcum is still God.

  14. a reader says:

    David and Bob is good. Losing Madigam isn’t a good thing though. He was fairly conservative

  15. Artist Formerly Known As Infidel Tiger says:

    Roberts might be very good

  16. Artist Formerly Known As Infidel Tiger says:

    Madigan was a crackpot protectionist.

    Good riddance.

  17. Sinclair Davidson says:

    Madigan was sound on ASADA.

  18. Jumpnmcar says:

    Roberts might be very good

    Naughty Cory should mentor this noob in the name of cross bench support.

  19. Andreas says:

    We need to be telling people to number every box above the line in the senate. We got too many Greens in on partial quotas due to exhausted preferences.

    This is what I said on here before the election. If even 5% of the exhausted right-wing/conservative votes had gone to One Nation they would have easily got in instead of the Greens in Tasmania.

  20. Tel says:

    Yeah good luck David, I voted for you. Look forward to more televised speeches to an empty House.

    Hey, Daniel Hannan and Nigel Farage were delivering speeches to chairs for years and they loved it, so you are in good company. It’s going to be great watching Turnbull negotiate with the current Senate.

  21. jupes says:

    Well done One Nation.

    They have the sanest policies on the two most important issues facing Australia:

    Muslim immigration and climate change.

  22. Tel says:

    jupes: I don’t see how a Royal Commission can answer the question “Is Islam a political system?”

    RC is more of a tool for rooting out corruption, it doesn’t really apply to a religion / philosophy. Not that it isn’t a valid question to be asking, but it’s a question every Australian needs to answer for themselves.

    By the way, is Christianity a political system? I mean, many of our laws are based on Christian principles.

  23. stackja says:

    And Rhiannon is 9.

  24. Fisky says:

    Congratulations to David Leyonhjelm. No need to keep trawling for Green votes, David. They weren’t what got you over the line; in fact, wasting time on indulgences for the 2% like SSM cost you. Reducing big government is the issue that resounds with the proletariat.

    Given that the LDP said nothing about SSM during the election campaign, it seems they got the message already. Having said that, we must be vigilant and watch them closely in the next parliament. If they so much as breathe a word about SSM, it will be taken as political dishonesty. A broken promise, basically.

  25. Fisky says:

    There is no reason the LDP couldn’t peel off a couple hundred thousand One Nation voters. They just have to be more disciplined during the next parliament, and honing their pro-energy, anti-PC message.

  26. Ripper says:

    There is no reason the LDP couldn’t peel off a couple hundred thousand One Nation voters.

    DL got in on 901 of the ON surplus.

  27. jupes says:

    jupes: I don’t see how a Royal Commission can answer the question “Is Islam a political system?”

    Well they can ask Muslim leaders exactly what is their – and Islam’s – position on Sharia law for example.

    In their opinion should all Australians be subject to blasphemy laws? Should Bill Leak be allowed to draw old Mo? Should all Muslims try to emulate Mohammed, and if so isn’t that exactly what IS are doing?

    There are so many questions that will enlighten us about exactly what they are doing here and what type of society they want Australia to become. There should be no more Muslim immigration or mosques built until we know what they are trying to achieve.

    I think it’s a brilliant idea.

  28. BorisG says:

    FANTASTIC NEWS DAVID!

  29. Andreas says:

    By the way, is Christianity a political system? I mean, many of our laws are based on Christian principles.

    Christianity teaches broad moral principles. Islam on the other hand sets down in excruciating minutiae what its followers can and can’t do – to the extent that Muslim hygenical jurisprudence is an actual thing. Morality and legality are one in Islam – political authority rests with it.

  30. BorisG says:

    It is very easy for him to espouse his views from within the comfort of the Turnbull Party, but I ponder if looking at Pauline Hanson’s success, he wonders what could have been/could be?

    Not quite sure where he has greater influence though.

  31. coz says:

    Lambie survives‘ is a nasty bit of sophistry, she was a shoe-in before the election, and as someone who lives in that electorate I said so on election nite. why the need to pretend otherwise?

  32. BorisG says:

    If they so much as breathe a word about SSM, it will be taken as political dishonesty.

    SSM is part of the LDP platform we voted for (even if it wasn’t talked about).

  33. Tel says:

    Who gets to decide which “Muslim leader” is representative of the wider Muslim community?

    How do we know if some Daesh sleeper cell is going to respect the conclusions of this Royal Commission? They have their own command structure, and their own internal interpretation of the religion.

  34. jupes says:

    Who gets to decide which “Muslim leader” is representative of the wider Muslim community?

    They do. The Grand Mufti, Shiek Shady, Keysar Trad, the head of various Muslim associations.

    How do we know if some Daesh sleeper cell is going to respect the conclusions of this Royal Commission? They have their own command structure, and their own internal interpretation of the religion.

    I’m pretty sure they won’t, however that’s not the point. By the end we should know how much in commone the ‘moderate’ Muslims have with the terrorists.

  35. mem says:

    …. And David too. What, no mention of the fact that a political party founded by an Australian woman now holds enormous power in Australian affairs? Is it not a first? And took great courage too.

  36. Rob MW says:

    Well done David, I bet you have never held your breath for that long before 🙂 I agree with Tom, LDP need to say right away from the social justice warrior-ing issues. Party platforming on social justice issues denies constituents, or potential constituents conscience rights. Leave political SJW-ing to the fuckwits who want to intervene in every aspect of life, like shooting ducks in a barrel.

  37. Habib says:

    At least Lambie is honest. Except for when she was malingering to avoid deployment, then attempting to defraud DVA. Minor infractions by Australian politician standards.

  38. Habib says:

    why the need to pretend otherwise? Some troops may have been naïve enough to think Tasmania wasn’t entirely stocked with inbred retards, a foolish supposition. Besides the fact that you only need one family to apply their thumbprint to your image on the ballot paper (as long as they haven’t eaten all the crayons), a boganette who jabbers about rooting and wants the dole and DSP increased to 20k a week will be fighting them off with a shitty stick.

  39. coz says:

    Habib
    #2110204, posted on August 4, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    At least Lambie is honest. Except for when she was malingering to avoid deployment, then attempting to defraud DVA. Minor infractions by Australian politician standards.

    can you provide a link to this statement? I never said she was honest, I just stated that every bookmaker and local opinion confirmed she would be re-elected 2 weeks out from the event.

  40. coz says:

    Habib
    #2110209, posted on August 4, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    why the need to pretend otherwise? Some troops may have been naïve enough to think Tasmania wasn’t entirely stocked with inbred retards, a foolish supposition. Besides the fact that you only need one family to apply their thumbprint to your image on the ballot paper (as long as they haven’t eaten all the crayons), a boganette who jabbers about rooting and wants the dole and DSP increased to 20k a week will be fighting them off with a shitty stick.

    uh is ‘habib’ an alter ego for one of the regular clan here? difficult not to presume otherwise.

  41. coz says:

    I’m sowwy your dabey cowardlylion only just scraped in, I understand the psychological concept of projection but uh, why dummify things up with the claim that Lambie only just ‘survived’ when clearly that is not the case.

  42. Stimpson J. Cat says:

    If David would only concentrate on dedicated flare section legislation the electorate would embrace him like a long lost bald Trump.

  43. Habib says:

    Lambie wouldn’t be able to get arrested outside Tasmania. 12 slots for a smaller (and stupider) population than the ACT. Kevin Rudd could win a seat for the Ba’athist party there. Sodding Tasmania has been perverting the upper house (a real achievement to make it actually worse) since Hawke/Keating increased the numbers in an abject failure to get control over both houses by hoovering assorted hippy degenerates. Harradine set the standard and it’s degenerated from there. The Greens would barely have a pew but for that mendicant morass, ditto for the xylophones in SA. Both should be towed out to sea and sunk by naval gunfire.

  44. Sinclair Davidson says:

    Lambie survived to the extent that getting rid of her was one of Turnbull’s objectives in calling the election. By contrast Lazarus and Muir did not survive.

  45. coz says:

    clearly a sockpuppet, but I can use people like that.

    Here’s my strategy for dabey cowardlylionhelm. same smokers rights as in NZ, you can grow your own tobacco for personal use only.

  46. coz says:

    Sinclair Davidson
    #2110231, posted on August 4, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Lambie survived to the extent that getting rid of her was one of Turnbull’s objectives in calling the election. By contrast Lazarus and Muir did not survive.

    shure, the whole thing was about getting rid of pesky ordinary people who aren’t aligned with banks, aren’t intergenerational (bunyip aristocracy/red/blue diaper) so the result is he got more of them. It was clear to people in this electorate that Lambie was a particular target of big banks and their lackeys, that why they voted for her.

  47. Habib says:

    Lambie wouldn’t be a target for IS. Utterly insignificant, she’d be embarrasing if she actually represented anywhere of any import. Pity we’ve got to pay the horror 6 figures and listen to her inane, irrational gibberish. BTW what’s a cross between a bogan and a gorgon called?

  48. . says:

    Fisky
    #2110083, posted on August 4, 2016 at 8:41 pm
    There is no reason the LDP couldn’t peel off a couple hundred thousand One Nation voters.

    That would probably not happen even if we tried and had the best minds behind it and spent a lot of money doing so.

  49. . says:

    coz
    #2110220, posted on August 4, 2016 at 11:13 pm
    I’m sowwy your dabey cowardlylion only just scraped in, I understand the psychological concept of projection but uh, why dummify things up with the claim that Lambie only just ‘survived’ when clearly that is not the case.

    Wow. A real life fan of Jacqui. Being a NSWelshman I’ll probably never meet one IRL.

  50. Stimpson J. Cat says:

    That would probably not happen even if we tried and had the best minds behind it and spent a lot of money doing so.

    There is no we when discussing vegans.

  51. coz says:

    .
    #2110235, posted on August 5, 2016 at 12:04 am

    Fisky
    #2110083, posted on August 4, 2016 at 8:41 pm
    There is no reason the LDP couldn’t peel off a couple hundred thousand One Nation voters.

    That would probably not happen even if we tried and had the best minds behind it and spent a lot of money doing so.

    you’d have to lose your contempt and that’s not a strong suit in flibbertarianism, you are a party of contempt.

  52. faceache says:

    Christianity… Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
    Judaism…What is hateful to you,do not do to your neighbour.
    Hinduism…Let no man do unto another that which would be repugnant to himself.
    Buddhism… Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
    Confucianism…What you do not want done to yourself, do not do unto others.

    Islam… Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Be merciful to one another, but ruthless to the unbelievers. (Qur’an 48:29 Slay unbelievers wherever you find them (2:191), not befriend them(3:28), fight them and show them harshness(9:123), smite their heads(47:4)
    Furthermore, islam teaches the reverse of the last 7 of the 10 commandments.
    So if God is God, then who from hell is Allah?

  53. coz says:

    ^ sorry forgot to format, my comment is the last one, the others belong to the others named.

  54. BrettW says:

    I guess DL was wrong when he said during a pre election interview that LDP would win three Senate seats.

    Seems One Nation took a lot of former Liberal supporters but doubt Turnbull attracted many from the left who were always going to vote Labour or Green.

  55. testpattern says:

    ‘Is islam a political system’

    Islam has no prescription for gov. There is no model for an Islamic state in the Quran and sunnah. No state gov existed in 7th cent Arabia, just tribal authority. The prophet modified and ratified already existing laws. There is nothing in the Quran on how to form an Islamic state after the death of the prophet, no successor. The Quran says peoples’ problems should be resolved through consultation. ‘You know your life’s affairs and I know your religious affairs.’ Abu Bakr was chosen by the elite in consultation with other muslims. Shia believe Ali was chosen by God but Ali attributed his rule to the people’s selection and consent. He said the legitimacy of the three caliphs rested with the people. ‘ I had no desire to be caliph … But you made me accept it.’ According to ibn khaldun the caliphate became a monarchy. ‘Religion is the steward of otherworldly affairs whereas politics govern the expediencies of this world.’ ‘Governance is a public expediency left to the views of the ppl.’

  56. . says:

    Brett – we almost got two. He thought he’d get more votes in NSW.

  57. testpattern says:

    ‘Buddhism. Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.’
    Crap. The ‘great’ therevada buddhist warrior king of burma bayinnaung built the biggest empire ever seen in Se Asia through military conquest.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayinnaung

  58. 2dogs says:

    Crap. The ‘great’ therevada buddhist warrior king of burma bayinnaung built the biggest empire ever seen in Se Asia through military conquest.

    So what? Supposedly Christian kings did similiar things.

    The question here is what Bhuddist teaching is, which on this point is Ahimsa.

  59. Sinclair Davidson says:

    so the result is he got more of them

    My point too – and he didn’t get rid of Lambie.

  60. AP says:

    Congratulations David, Bob and Malcolm. I’m sure there will be many interesting conversations.

  61. AP says:

    So if God is God, then who from hell is Allah?

    You really need to ask?

  62. Anton says:

    One Nation is not a single issue or protest party, it has the best (conservative) policies on:
    >Climate change
    >Islam
    >Immigration
    >Family law
    >Education

  63. iamok says:

    Could not Bernardi now form a conservative party and secede from the Libs, hopefully taking a few with him? The Nats might entertain throwing some bones his way as well.

    There would be a strong conservative voting block at play then.

    Still, I forget that many (most?) of our career pollies will do nothing to threaten their own self interest and gains, so wishful thinking on my part I guess.

  64. test pattern says:

    Congrats David you’re a squollar and a gent

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