Open Forum: November 26, 2016

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  1. Snoopy

    Ryan ditched Trump after pussygate.

    Trump against the odds wins Ryan’s home state of Wisconsin.

    Oops.

  2. Top Ender

    A very fair comment Zulu!

  3. twostix

    Dear me, leftists and “civil” Libertarians sure do love themselves a lot of child rape.

    Today we publish extracts from an NCCL [National Council for Civil Liberties] report written for the Criminal Law Revision Committee in 1976 when [former Labour Health Secretary] Mrs Hewitt was general secretary.

    It says: ““Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage.

    “The Criminal Law Commission should be prepared to accept the evidence from follow-up research on child ‘victims’ which show there is little subsequent effect after a child has been ‘molested’.

    Things like this are why I’m not going to write the whole Pizzagate thing off until the Trumperor stands in the Oval office flanked by Putin and Orban and officially declares the matter over ( with hundreds of well known “personalities” and politicians and their lickspittles swinging from lampposts throughout the western world).

  4. JC

    Why didn’t Ryan stand in the Presidential primaries? No ticker?

    He guessed he couldn’t win and stayed out. Nothing to do with ticker at all and house speaker is nothing to sniff at either.

  5. Fisky

    Knock it off, Ryan is on the free market wing of the GOP

    Ryan does not support free markets. He has never worked outside government in his life and has no idea what free markets are. His only substantive policy ideas are failed “minority enterprise zones” rubbish that turned into tax scams, and of course he LOVED Bush’s stupid pumping up of the housing bubble.

    Nothing he does ever works. He always fails.

  6. Fisky

    Ryan is a complete loser. Couldn’t deliver Wisconsin for Romney, but Trump won Wisconsin against Ryan’s opposition.

    All ideas advocated by Ryan should be dismissed without discussion.

  7. JC

    Stix, you left out the highlighted part.

    ‘We can’t prove sex with children does them harm’ says Labour-linked NCCL
    EVIDENCE has emerged that the views of the Paedophile Information Exchange influenced policy-making at the National Council for Civil Liberties when it was run by former Labour Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

  8. Oh come on

    Here is the transcript of the relevant part of the debate:

    WALLACE: Mr. Trump, I want to ask you about one last question in this topic. You have been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from you.

    Your running mate, Governor Pence, pledged on Sunday that he and you — his words — “will absolutely accept the result of this election.” Today your daughter, Ivanka, said the same thing. I want to ask you here on the stage tonight: Do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely — sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election?

    TRUMP: I will look at it at the time. I’m not looking at anything now. I’ll look at it at the time.

    What I’ve seen — what I’ve seen is so bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt, and the pile-on is so amazing. The New York Times actually wrote an article about it, but they don’t even care. It’s so dishonest. And they’ve poisoned the mind of the voters.

    But unfortunately for them, I think the voters are seeing through it. I think they’re going to see through it. We’ll find out on November 8th. But I think they’re going to see through it.

    WALLACE: But, sir, there’s…

    TRUMP: If you look — excuse me, Chris — if you look at your voter rolls, you will see millions of people that are registered to vote — millions, this isn’t coming from me — this is coming from Pew Report and other places — millions of people that are registered to vote that shouldn’t be registered to vote.

    So let me just give you one other thing. So I talk about the corrupt media. I talk about the millions of people — tell you one other thing. She shouldn’t be allowed to run. It’s crooked — she’s — she’s guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should not be allowed to run.

    And just in that respect, I say it’s rigged, because she should never…

    WALLACE: But…

    TRUMP: Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with e-mails and so many other things.

    WALLACE: But, sir, there is a tradition in this country — in fact, one of the prides of this country — is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign that the loser concedes to the winner. Not saying that you’re necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying you’re not prepared now to commit to that principle?

    TRUMP: What I’m saying is that I will tell you at the time. I’ll keep you in suspense. OK?

    CLINTON: Well, Chris, let me respond to that, because that’s horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him.

    The FBI conducted a year-long investigation into my e-mails. They concluded there was no case; he said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him. Then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering; he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. There was even a time when he didn’t get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged against him.

    TRUMP: Should have gotten it.

    (LAUGHTER)

    CLINTON: This is — this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it’s funny, but it’s also really troubling.

    WALLACE: OK.

    CLINTON: So that is not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around for 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections. We’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. You know, President Obama said the other day when you’re whining before the game is even finished…

    (APPLAUSE)

    WALLACE: Hold on. Hold on, folks. Hold on, folks.

    CLINTON: … it just shows you’re not up to doing the job. And let’s — you know, let’s be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating — he’s talking down our democracy. And I, for one, am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.

    I stand corrected; it was the third debate and not the second, and Hillary did not specifically promise to accept the result.

    However, what she did say she was horrified by Trump’s claim that he wouldn’t accept the election result until he’d had a look at it. And the inference in the following Hillary statement is pretty clear:

    So that is not the way our democracy works…we’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election.

    Now that she’s lost, she doesn’t seem to think this applies to her anymore.

  9. egg_

    there’s a real issue in terms of community cohesion

    Simple – asimilate of fvck off; same everywhere else on the planet.
    When in Rome…

  10. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    The former lieutenant colonel who was wrongly accused of being involved in the infamous “Jedi Council” sex ring has slammed David Morrison over his handling of the affair, as Tasmanian crossbencher Jacqui Lambie prepares to ask the Senate to remove the ex-army chief as the current Australian of the Year.

    Senator Lambie will give notice of the motion today, which refers to the treatment by Mr Morrison, as army chief, of former lieutenant colonel Karel Dubsky. The senator will call on the government to replace Mr Morrison with “a person worthy­ of the title”.

    From the Oz. Never thought I’d agree with Jackie Lambie about anything…..

  11. JC

    Ryan is a complete loser.

    Is he? He won his own seat comfortably. He managed to keep the GOP majority intact and he will re-elected speaker. Some loser there, Fisk.

    Ryan doesn’t like Trump. A lot of people don’t like Trump, as we’ve seen in the polls. In fact a fucking majority of people don’t, so Ryan is hardly alone. The important thing to watch for is if Ryan and Trump create a workable partnership.

    Lots of people who can work well together may not like each other.

  12. Never thought I’d agree with Jackie Lambie about anything…..

    I suggest you pay more attention to Our Jacq. She now & then says something nobody else has the balls to, but badly needs saying all the same.

  13. Oh come on

    He guessed he couldn’t win and stayed out. Nothing to do with ticker at all and house speaker is nothing to sniff at either.

    I suspect Ryan had to reconcile himself to dump any Presidential ambitions he might have been harbouring up until that point when he agreed to assume the Speaker’s chair. It’s a position that pretty much guarantees unpopularity. Just ask John Boehner.

  14. Snoopy

    A lot of people don’t like Trump, as we’ve seen in the polls.

    Ahahaahahaha. Stop it! Snork, snork. FFS! Haha.

    Ooh my sides hurt.

  15. JC

    Stix, you left out the highlighted part.

    ‘We can’t prove s*x with children does them harm’ says Labour-linked NCCL
    EVIDENCE has emerged that the views of the ped Information Exchange influenced policy-making at the National Council for Civil Liberties when it was run by former Labour Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

    It’s a labor astroturf operation. Labor also lowered the age of consent when they were in power. It’s an affliction the party has to damage kids. Nothing to do with civil liberties.

  16. memoryvault

    The only way it’s going to happen is if the Libs pansy out on their promise of a national plebiscite. So it probably will happen, then. Damn.

    How erudite of you, OCO.
    And it only took you two years.

  17. Fisky

    Ryan did nothing to keep the GOP majority. That was all Trump. Remember the dumb Ryan budget that ruined Romney’s campaign? It had an approval rating of about 16%. Ryan also passed Obama’s terrible budget that funded sanctuary cities and blew the debt out to 21 trillion.

    Dumb!

  18. Oh come on

    Ryan’s comments in the wake of Pussygate about how women must be worshipped or whatever were just plain bizarre.

  19. JC

    Ahahaahahaha. Stop it! Snork, snork. FFS! Haha.

    Ooh my sides hurt.

    That counts for an argument now, does it, Snoopy?

    Maybe if your sides hurt from laughing you ought to give yourself an uppercut to transfer the pain away from your sides to the bottom of your chin… and then tell yourself you’re being an oppositional moron.

  20. Oh come on

    Shut up, MV. You’ve still got questions to answer.

  21. Fisky

    Ryan is a protege of failed loser Jack Kemp, who apologised to Al Gore in the 1996 debate for belonging to a racist party.

  22. JC

    Ryan did nothing to keep the GOP majority. That was all Trump. Remember the dumb Ryan budget that ruined Romney’s campaign? It had an approval rating of about 16%. Ryan also passed Obama’s terrible budget that funded sanctuary cities and blew the debt out to 21 trillion.

    Dumb!

    Okay, what should he have done? Facts please.

  23. Oh come on

    When you’ve answered those questions, you may speak to me on other matters. Now off to bed with you!

  24. JC

    Ryan is a protege of failed loser Jack Kemp, who apologised to Al Gore in the 1996 debate for belonging to a racist party.

    I can see the evidence that Kemp said this.

  25. Fisky

    Okay, what should he have done? Facts please.

    Resigned and apologised for being a dumbass. He’s no good!

  26. Snoopy

    I predict Ryan will rediscover his spine in 2017.

  27. Oh come on

    I hope Romney is kept out of Foggy Bottom. He doesn’t deserve the position!

  28. Fisky

    No Romney blotted his copybook. There is probably a job for him somewhere, but not State.

  29. JC

    Resigned and apologised for being a dumbass. He’s no good!

    Ummm what position should he have taken with respect to the budget at the time.

  30. JC

    whoops

    Show us with an excerpt from the transcript where Kemp apologized for the reason that you said.

  31. Fisky

    Notice how Ryan has often called Trump a racist and unfit for office. Trump should veto every bill put up by him. He’s poison.

  32. Snoopy

    The Romney as Secretary of State malarky confirms Trump has a cruel streak.

    Excellent.

  33. JC

    One thing at a time please.

    1. Show us the evidence that Kemp said this in the debate with the obese swine.

    2. what position should he have taken with respect to the budget at the time?

    Fisky, take a deep breath and push down.

  34. Fisky

    I believe Trump is doing this to torture Romney. Pretty funny.

  35. Fisky

    Trump has an admirable Soviet streak in how he operates. He knows how to humiliate people and make them submit. Useful skill set.

  36. Mark A

    Scroll alert!
    B-17
    Hope it gives a bit of respite.

  37. Oh come on

    I don’t think there’s a job for Romney that Romney wouldn’t consider a slight.

  38. memoryvault

    Shut up, MV. You’ve still got questions to answer.

    OCO, best I remember, your last demand on me was I supply a link showing you admitted to being a craven coward who was going to leave all the heavy lifting to others.

    When I did, you threw a two hour spak-attack hissy-fit.

    Was there anything else?

  39. Fisky

    Memoryvault is a real loony. A crank!

  40. Fisky

    Ryan will “stand up” to Trump in a way he never would have with Obama. Just wait!

  41. JC

    Just wait!

    I’ll hold my breath.

    If Trump supports a sudden increase in the mini wage to 12 bucks… I fucking well hope Ryan stands up to him. You don’t?

  42. memoryvault

    Memoryvault is a real loony. A crank!

    The Fatuous Four gather for the pile on . . .

    Incidentally, Fisky, did you have anything of actual relevance to say, or were you simply announcing your presence?

  43. Oh come on

    OCO, best I remember, your last demand on me was I supply a link showing you admitted to being a craven coward who was going to leave all the heavy lifting to others.

    If characterising your demolition in such a way helps ease you into nap time, gramps, then I guess you gotta do what you gotta do. Maybe lying to yourself means you only need to drink 2 litres of your goon bag rather than going through the full 4 litres to ward off the feelings of inadequacy. If so, I’m happy to refrain from puncturing your delusions tonight. For the sake of your health.

  44. Fisky

    Aboriginal revolution! Aboriginal revolution!

  45. JC

    The Fatuous Four gather for the pile on . . .

    Two = four in vaultaire land.

  46. Snoopy

    Once Trump builds the wall, Hollywood liberals will be paying way more than $12 per hour for their gardener and maid.

  47. memoryvault

    Maybe lying to yourself means you only need to drink 2 litres of your goon bag rather than going through the full 4 litres to ward off the feelings of inadequacy.

    Give me some credit for taste, OCO.
    I only drink upmarket two litre goonie bags.
    None of that four litre cheap rubbish for me.

  48. Oh come on

    Incidentally, Fisky, did you have anything of actual relevance to say

    It seems perfectly relevant – and fair – observation to me. You are undoubtedly a crank and a loony.

  49. JC

    Once Trump builds the wall, Hollywood liberals will be paying way more than $12 per hour for their gardener and maid.

    Why?

  50. memoryvault

    Two = four in vaultaire land.

    Well, you’re here, JC, and you’re the king of the pile-on.
    So that makes three. Dot seems to be MIA on all fronts.

  51. Snoopy

    Speaking of goon, Jaqui Lambie lately looks as if she is giving the goon bags a serious shake.

  52. memoryvault

    Speaking of goon, Jaqui Lambie lately looks as if she is giving the goon bags a serious shake.

    Dunno about goon bags, but she seems to be spending a lot of time hanging off Hynch’s arm.
    I wonder if he has a big package?

  53. Oh come on

    Jaqui Lambie lately looks as if she is giving the goon bags a serious shake.

    Is that what she calls them after the cosmetic breast reduction surgery done on the taxpayer’s dime?

    Yikes. Disturbing mental image or what.

  54. C.L.

    Reports: Lambie is calling for David Morrison to be stripped of his AOTY award over his dishonest and despicable dealing vis-a-vis the invented “Jedi” sex “scandal.”

    Good for her.

  55. srr

    🙂 🙂 🙂 What more can one picture say …

    Brittany Pettibone [email protected] 12h12 hours ago

    “Welcome back, gentlemen.”
    #MAGA
    https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/802693000845344768

    … and a Very Merry Christmas! 🙂

  56. JC

    Vaultaire

    You’re squealing like a stuck pig suggesting four people are after you for being a regular douchebag.
    I haven’t said anything, yet you now say my mere presence constitutes participation?
    And you’re not nuts? You’re not a crank? Fmd.

  57. memoryvault

    You’re squealing like a stuck pig suggesting four people are after you for being a regular douchebag.

    Did I claim anything like a personal vendetta, JC?
    No, you Fatuous Four get your kicks out of ganging up on other commentators.
    Yeah, sometimes it’s me, but I’m hardly alone.
    It seems anybody’s fair game as long as it feeds your egos.

  58. Oh come on

    Nah, it’s just you, MV.

  59. JC

    Did I claim anything like a personal vendetta, JC?

    You claimed four people were attacking you.

    The Fatuous Four gather for the pile on . . .

    Sad. Just sad.

  60. Oh come on

    Even a broken clock’s right twice a day. If only Lambie had anything near that strike rate.

  61. memoryvault

    Nah, it’s just you, MV.

    Tell it to Cradock, OCO.
    Just to name your gang’s latest target.

  62. Oh come on

    MV, you ridiculous old soak. You were the one who stuck your head above the parapet to have a snipe at me. Completely unsolicited. You’ve got no grounds to whine about a pile-on. Don’t start shit if you don’t like getting whacked.

  63. Oh come on

    Huh? I don’t have an issue with MK50.

  64. JC

    Tell it to Cradock, OCO.
    Just to name your gang’s latest target.

    What happened with Laserjet8600, aka Mark L Canberra? Explain, Vaultaire as I missed it.

  65. memoryvault

    You were the one who stuck your head above the parapet to have a snipe at me. Completely unsolicited.

    Completely unsolicited? For two years you have rubbished the shit out of me for daring to suggest the plebiscite would never happen. Now you agree. But you expect me not to remind you?

    Anyway, we are now down to us insulting each other, with no input from anybody else. That time of night when other Cats advise scrolling down to Tom’s “Leak” link.

    I agree with them. Goodnight.

  66. Oh come on

    For two years you have rubbished the shit out of me for daring to suggest the plebiscite would never happen.

    Links. Now. Or did you just wanted to squeeze one more lie in before bedtime? You are shameless, MV. Shameless.

    Links to where I “rubbished the shit out of [you] for daring to suggest the plebiscite would never happen”.

    You are a serial fantasist, old man. Go to bed. Of course, your lie will be waiting for you in the morning.

  67. Oh come on

    And that you are a liar is not an insult. It’s a proven fact.

  68. Rossini

    Has everyone spat the dummy and gone to sleep?

  69. 2dogs

    Who is Castro greeting in that Leak cartoon? Is it Pol Pot?

  70. Tom

    2dogs, I believe it’s Uncle Ho (Chi Minh).

  71. Tom

    Americans who hate America love Uncle Ho.

  72. Mark A

    am too late as usual should use F5 more

  73. Mark A

    Scroll alert! |’though the forum traffic is slow at this time of day.
    Some kraut pioneering aircraft.

  74. Without California, how would the popular vote and electoral college looked? :
    Popular Votes (Clinton) Popular Votes (Trump) Electoral Votes (Clinton) Electoral Votes (Trump)
    With California 122,364,488 120,634,627 232 306
    W/0ut California 114,504,641 116,511,641 196 340

  75. Listen to Phillip Adams speak with Bruce Shapiro re the aftermath of Trump’s victory. The utter rubbish that both of them spout is unbelievable, for example, the lie that Bannon is an antisemite, and about people feeling free to express violent bigotry against women, and so on. Poppycock, but that is what happens to you when you’ve cried wolf so often. No one is has any grounds believing anything you say any longer.

  76. Mark A

    so basically it doesn’t matter, or he would’ve won bigger if Cal, didn’t exist?
    then what’s the big issue here can’t the Dems count?

  77. duncanm

    as noted above – another great Leak.

    Dover – re-rear Scott Adam’s take on the post-Trump double down on truth and lies.

  78. Tintarella di Luna

    Does anyone else have trouble loading articles from the Australian – I can only see part of the article and cannot get further down the article to the comments section — that has been happening now for quite a few days.

  79. Mark A

    Tintarella di Luna, if you’re a subscriber it shouldn’t happen.
    Complain in strong terms.

  80. Tom

    It’s all media, Tinta. We’ve pissed all our money against the wall on the NBN, and we’re still going to have slow-motion internet speeds. NBN, NDIS, Gonski, RET: we’ve torched more public money for zero result in the past decade than in the history of Australian government.

  81. Mark A

    scroll alert, even if it’s still early not to bother other Cats.

    numbers may have a different view on this (Tat offensive)

  82. dweezy2176

    Do we only get the news the media feels we are entitled too? Two issues that I’ve come across over the weekend but seen no mention of on any of the news outlets I read …
    “Rama” Baird pushes thru changes to the Medical Act .. HIV sufferers no longer required to inform anyone/authorities they have it … has “Rama” lost the plot, completely?
    And the soon if not already closure of the “Cabbage Patch” retail chain, shutting 420 stores and over 1000 employees out of work.
    Given the media hype over both “Dick Smith” & “Masters” I would have expected the same “confected” outrage for “CP” but, apparently, not!
    +

  83. duncanm

    Why have I not read of the (man-made) emerging disaster in India anywhere ?

    Prime Minister Modi has banned 500 and 1000 rupee notes without warning. (~$US7 and $15).

  84. Mark A

    Tom
    We’ve pissed all our money against the wall on the NBN, and we’re still going to have slow-motion internet speeds. NBN, NDIS, Gonski, RET: we’ve torched more public money for zero result in the past decade than in the history of Australian government.

    Can’t repeat it often enough, in small midsize European countries I have a truly unlimited fast internet connection for 3rd of the price I pay in Melbourne.
    Who owns those gold plated electrons in OZ?
    I could understand if I was limited to EU sites but I use OZ sites 90% of the time so they can’t say because of distance.

  85. Entropy

    Honestly, who cares about AOTY?
    Just another discredited waste of taxpayers’ money used as an indulgent platform for the self appointed priestly class to vainly preach to the unlistening unwashed.

  86. Entropy

    Can’t repeat it often enough, in small midsize European countries I have a truly unlimited fast internet connection for 3rd of the price I pay in Melbourne.
    Who owns those gold plated electrons in OZ?
    I could understand if I was limited to EU sites but I use OZ sites 90% of the time so they can’t say because of distance.

    Cross subsidisation to ensure that hargomnidah pays the same price as Glen Iris. The cost is more than just the price you pay for access.

  87. Tintarella di Luna

    Tintarella di Luna, if you’re a subscriber it shouldn’t happen.
    Complain in strong terms.

    Yes have been a subscriber for many years — I will complain in strong terms later in the day when the morning duties are dispensed with.

  88. Mark A

    Entropy
    Cross subsidisation to ensure that hargomnidah pays the same price as Glen Iris. The cost is more than just the price you pay for access.

    Have to think about this.
    I just don’t know.

  89. Mark A

    Tintarella di Luna
    Yes have been a subscriber for many years — I will complain in strong terms later in the day when the morning duties are dispensed with.

    Just remembered, I had trouble accessing AB podcasts a few weeks ago and the changed back to FireFox browser from Chrome and it came good.
    Try a different browser, you never know?

  90. Notafan

    I’ve been following the Modi rupee story. I thought he’d backed down a bit regarding the change over period

    Most of the poor don’t have bank accounts so changing old notes for new is problematic.

    Iirc the Vietnamese communists did a arbitrary currency replacement and thousands of peasants lost their life savings in a night and many committed suicide.


    More on the rupee

  91. Notafan

    By the way am extremely cynical about the alleged use of chlorine gas as the video of the little boy who constantly removed his oxygen mask to say ‘miss,miss ‘ didn’t seem to be having any difficulty breathing while talking.

    I detest the abuse of children in this war

  92. Anne

    Italy’s Minister of the Interior Angelino Alfano is planning to throw citizens in prison if they don’t hand over their homes to migrants, according to a report from Italian paper Ilgiornale.

    This is conclusive proof that open borders is incompatible with property rights.

    No it isn’t Fisky. Natural attrition of Property rights and Dissent occurs as the power of the State grows.

    It’s proof that the UN/EU Leaders want the imposition of Socialism, with or without Civil War.

  93. Notafan

    Italy should allow the refugees to go to Germany as it was Merkel who invited them.

    Then all the middle class Africans who thought they would chance it can be sent home.

    Housing crisis averted.

  94. Ragu

    From notafan’s Krugman link

    In hindsight, I wonder if the election was probably over right then and there.

    I reckon it was over when Hilldogg did this

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRZiANcbco

  95. Tintarella di Luna

    Try a different browser, you never know?

    Grazie Mark A — did that — seems to have done the trick and I made my comments

  96. calli

    This piqued my curiosity:

    Hundreds of refugees are risking their lives to enter the other end of France from northern Italy. The frontier between Italy’s Ventimiglia and Menton in southern France is already known as “Mini Calais.”

    I was in Menton six weeks ago. There were no signs of a “Mini Calais”, unless it’s very mini indeed. Didn’t see Ventimiglia, as it’s on the railway line but a detour from the main drag into Italy. Lots of commuters travel in from Italy to work in Monaco, so you would expect to see some evidence of these people around the railway stations.

    That road made the news though, shortly after we left. A group of illegals tried to use the Autostrada/Autoroute as it was quicker than the Via Aurelia to get into France. Only problem is that it’s vehicles only. One of them was ko’ed by a truck.

  97. Baldrick

    Wilders PVV steams ahead in the Dutch polls:

    Geert Wilders @geertwilderspvv
    PVV + 3 and nr 1 in the polls!!
    Thank you for all the support!
    The Netherlands will be strong again!

  98. Notafan

    Its on the frontier on the Italian side Calli.


    The French don’t let them in

  99. incoherent rambler

    The NBN make one think about installing a sat. dish (or two).
    Insider knowledge points to the problem with NBN being lack of network design and people who can spell network. NBN, it’s a holiday farm.

  100. Mark A

    Tintarella di Luna
    Grazie Mark A — did that — seems to have done the trick and I made my comments

    Prego Tinta.
    And that’s the limit of my Italian.
    NO I tell a lie I can also order food and drink. Survival instinct I suppose.

  101. calli

    That makes more sense, Nota.

    The railway might be an option to get across, if you had money for a ticket. The border seemed very porous to me. The Swiss border…not so much. But then, they don’t need to kowtow to the EU.

  102. Notafan

    Ive caught the train though here. The Italian train finishes at Ventimiglia then you must wait for the French one. I went through a few months before the crisis as we saw no refugges attempting to board the French train but on the train between Turin and Grenoble the year before a large contingent of armed French border police boa?ded and checked all passports .


    More on Ventimiglia

  103. Ragu

    This NFL season is crazy.

    Cardinals, Panthers and Broncos are shit. The Cowboys are ten and one and the Saints look like a genuine chance.

    Seattle and the Pats are going along like normal, but I doubt either could make it all the way

  104. herodotus

    Last time I did a speed check my Bigpond cable was running at 115mbps.
    NBN – meh!

  105. Rabz

    Too stupid to survive.

    What sort of a joke of a country “elects” imbeciles like this dickhead to its national legislature? In a just world he’d be back in Greece selling fruit and veg from a stall by side of road.

    P.S. Particularly annoyed as I had the misfortune to hear the idiot on the news this morning.

  106. srr

    Mike Cernovich ?? [email protected] 1h1 hour ago

    Ever read @AndrewBreitbart’s Twitter?
    Those loudly proclaiming to be his proteges are such fucking liars.
    Breitbart went hard.
    Frauds.
    ..
    Mike Cernovich ?? [email protected] 1h1 hour ago

    What did Andrew know? #pizzagate
    ..
    AndrewBreitbart [email protected] 4 Feb 2011

    How prog-guru John Podesta isn’t household name
    as world class underage sex slave op cover-upperer
    defending unspeakable dregs
    escapes me.

  107. calli

    Had we been travelling by train to Italy and back, we would never have thought to take our passports. There was no check in Monaco, so perhaps they have an arrangement with the French. Definitely didn’t expect one either!

    The terrible sadness and fatalism I detected in the Italian shopkeeper I spoke to makes even more sense now. There’s going to be a big bust-up soon if a solution isn’t found.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    Prego Tinta.

    Congratulations Tinta.
    Stimpy is a great name for a boy.
    Mark A she may have wanted to keep it a secret.
    Discretion.

  109. Mark A

    Rabz

    You have to remember he is from SA.
    If you visit T Blair’s blog, which I admit I tend to neglect lately for various reasons, you can see he nailed the SA population correctly as weird, even more than Vic. my home state.

  110. srr

    Ezra Levant ?? [email protected] 5h5 hours ago

    [email protected]_taylor
    No chance “Uncle Fidel” was Justin Trudeau’s father.
    Conspiracy theory.
    They look nothing alike.
    Margaret was too virtuous.

    https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/802919204718448640

    I believe Ezra’s being sarcastic … very sarcastic …

  111. Rabz

    if a solution isn’t found

    There is only one solution.

    Start shipping them back, en masse. The morons will realise this eventually, when it’s too late.

  112. Mark A

    Stimpson J. Cat

    Crazy you may be (your claim) but you do have a sense of a bizarre humor!
    Long may it last.

  113. calli

    That was my thought too, Rabz.

    Fillon looks like he’s a”shipper-outerer” too:

    He also wants to return British border controls, which currently operate in Calais, to the UK.

    Slippery.

  114. Rabz

    he nailed the SA population correctly as weird

    I can remember Dunstan and the cavalcade of bizarre grotesque murders that SA was famous for since the ’60s at least.

    “Weird” isn’t even scratching the surface. Nowadays they merely burden us with intolerable imbeciles like Wendy Pong, Xylophone and Sarah Sea-Patrol.

    “Wind power for evah! You know it makes sense! Oh, wait, Smedley, where did I leave those candles?”

  115. calli

    Only been to Adelaide once.

    It was closed.

  116. Ragu

    There was no check in Monaco, so perhaps they have an arrangement with the French. Definitely didn’t expect one either!

    Only passport check I’ve encountered once in the eurozone, was at the Swiss border or any time heading to England. Either at GARE de Nord or some airfield. Everytime at the airport, they would pull aside and make me wait until all euro passport holders had boarded. Bloody weird.

    I was working in France, technically illegally, but managed to confuse the shit out of the immigration inspector by pointing out that my UK visa meant I had a right to work wherever in the Union.

  117. Notafan

    France’s borders have been closed since Nov 2015.

  118. C.L.

    Trump tweets:

    Donald J. Trump [email protected] 2h2 hours ago
    In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

  119. calli

    France’s borders have been closed since Nov 2015.

    Now you tell me! ?

  120. val majkus

    Does anyone else have trouble loading articles from the Australian – I can only see part of the article and cannot get further down the article to the comments section

    If you’re using Chrome, go to properties from your toolbar and make sure in the shortcut menu that ‘maximised’ is selected, if not select it and click ‘apply’

  121. C.L.

    When is Noel Pearson going to be called to account for racism and vilification by the HRC?

  122. Notafan

    Calli I suspect there might be a bit of racial profiling.
    Certainly once they’d seen mine they didn’t bother with my traveling companion and concentrated on others.

    Also saw border police in Spain on the overnight train from Lisbon. Think we showed passports but they spend a long time interrogating a couple of young men i thought might have been Eastern Europeans.

  123. Rabz

    From the “rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic” files – Fat Waffling Windbag considers changes to da ministry:

    The Prime Minister has an obvious problem with his B-team — George Brandis and Barnaby Joyce — and there is talk of wider changes to cabinet to lift the government’s performance.

    From the Oz. Why on earth would you even bother? FFS, this so called government is beyond a joke.

  124. Ant

    I wouldn’t presume to speak for others, but I speculate that many will consider your response to Armadillo’s question, given here, to be less than sincere. That’s certainly how I feel.

    Well, Oco, you are wrong.

    In the response to Armadillo I basically said 3 things:

    1. Trump loves his country. I have made this observation numerous times, before the election and before the Convention even. I’d go further and say that while he’s ignorant of the provisions in, and the motivations behind, the US Constitution, he instinctively ‘gets it’ and is comfortable with it. Clinton and Obama ‘get it’, too, but their ambition has been to radically change it using whatever means available – legitimate and illegitimate.

    2. I was never a NeverTrumper. You will not find me advocating for Clinton here or anywhere else, as much as the bots were desperate to believe it. However, I was never going to kiss Trump’s butt and worship every one of his many stupid utterances either, and the criticism he copped from his own side in the US clearly banged his discipline into shape facilitating his narrow victory, if the 10 or so days prior to the election are any indication, IMO.

    3. His behaviour since the election has been impressive in most respects and this can be judged from what he has been doing, rather than what he has been saying. The Preibus appointment was a sop to the GOP, given that Trump appears to have shoved the weasel into Bannon’s back pocket, but the rest will probably prove to be very consequential.

  125. Top Ender

    The complete Lambie article from the Oz.

    Comments underneath – so far 90% in favour of the Lamb, with many castigating the whole AOTY process.

    Lambie wants David Morrison dumped as Australian of Year
    The Australian

    The former lieutenant colonel who was wrongly accused of being involved in the infamous “Jedi Council” sex ring has slammed David Morrison over his handling of the affair, as Tasmanian crossbencher Jacqui Lambie prepares to ask the Senate to remove the ex-army chief as the current Australian of the Year.

    Senator Lambie will give notice of the motion today, which refers to the treatment by Mr Morrison, as army chief, of former lieutenant colonel Karel Dubsky. The senator will call on the government to replace Mr Morrison with “a person worthy­ of the title”.

    Mr Dubsky told The Australian yesterday he wanted a public apology from Defence for the way he was treated over the Jedi Council affair, making clear he was never part of the ring, which shared material detailing sexual exploits and demeaning images of women. He was the highest-ranking office­r to be implicated in the scandal that rocked the defence establishment in 2013.

    “With respect to the motion for removal of Australia of the Year, I personally believe the Australian of the Year should have honour, courage, respect and understand team work,” Mr Dubsky said.

    “I don’t believe that in my case, and in many others, he (Morrison) has demonstrated those values.

    Mr Dubsky added: “I didn’t want any of this media coverage. I just wanted a correction of the public record that I was not ­involved in the Jedi Council — something that Morrison and (former defence force chief David) Hurley both gave me letters for.

    “I’m hopeful that the Senate understands the gravity of the situation and the toll that it has taken on me and my family, and that they do pass this motion.”

    The scandal led to Mr Dubsky being relieved of his position as the commanding officer of the joint logistics unit in north Queensland for “failing to remain aware of issue­s that affect him, his unit and army.” None of the other men were in Mr Dubsky’s unit.

    While it was determined that Mr Dubsky was not one of the army officers involved in the Jedi Council ring, he was identified as a member of the group. He has said publicly that this was made possible because Mr Morrison, in his June 2013 press conference on the scandal, revealed there was a lieutenant colonel who was part of the group.

    Investigations found that Mr Dubsky was copied in — but never opened — any of the offending emails and the then defence force chief, General Hurley, wrote to him in October 2013 making clear he was no longer considered part of the group’s activities. But the experience took a heavy personal toll on Mr Dubsky, who was admitted to a psychiatric ward. He then tried to commit suicide­ when he heard Mr Morrison was made Australian of the Year.

    In the draft motion, Senator Lambie accuses Mr Morrison of ignoring the findings of a NSW police report by Strike Force Civet into the Jedi Council and of allowing Mr Dubsky and others to be “wrongly accused” of being members of a group of sex-offenders.

    “General Morrison’s behaviour caused exceptional and undue harm to retired lieutenant colonel Dubsky, his family, and other innocent members of the ADF — and demonstrated behaviour that was the opposite required­ of the Australian of the Year,” the motion says.

    The motion notes that Australians of the Year have traditionally needed to demonstrate “excellence in their field” and to have been an “inspir­ational role model for the Aust­ralian community.”

    Mr Morrison last night ­declined to comment.

  126. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump [email protected] 2h2 hours ago
    In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

    Trump admits the electoral system is corrupt.

    That is not exactly going to help him when a court of law is deciding on a recount.

    Dumb move DJT.

  127. struth

    Good moaning.

    Really , how absolutely thick is the MSM.

    They are racing around trying to get interviews with the people who predicted a Trump victory.
    They can find a couple.
    Oh. that’s actual…….” people”.
    The inner city political elite don’t consider anyone but themselves as actual thinking humans.
    As is true with so much in life, the truth is the polar opposite to what is presented.
    Honestly, stupid is one thing, but the arrogance and ignorance goes on.
    I expected nothing less.
    They are incapable, like all lefties, of self awareness.
    This explains the hypocrisy.
    The media, captured by the left, are the soldiers of socialism, trained to fight without question, at the socialist training centres throughout the land, known as universities.

  128. marcus w

    Only been to Adelaide once.

    It was closed.

    never go on a Tuesday

  129. Snoopy

    We haven’t forgotten your constant shitbagging.

  130. Ragu

    Point of order

    The parliament does not elect the Australian of the year.

    Lambie is still a fucking idiot

  131. Notafan

    Ha ha Calli you know what I mean .

    ‘Border controls’

  132. Donald J. Trump [email protected] 2h2 hours ago
    In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

    He and his voters are as dumb as dog poo.

  133. Entropy

    The Prime Minister has an obvious problem with his B-team — George Brandis and Barnaby Joyce — and there is talk of wider changes to cabinet to lift the government’s performance.

    Interesting that Joyce is lumped with Brandis. Here is an alternative interpretation. Brandis is thoroughly damaged goods and needs to go. But why waste an opportunity? Turnbull can use this as an excuse to try to deal with the national party and force them back into line.
    Like everything else Turnbull, it will fail. He and his staff would have to be the most politically inept bunch of wankers every to reach high office. It’s like they see the coalition as the enemy rather than the greens/ALP. Oh, wait.

  134. Rococo Liberal

    Really , how absolutely thick is the MSM.

    As the Tory voctory in 2015, Brexit and Trump’s election show, the MSM has no power anymore.
    We can all see how bad they are. So don’t worry, they are killing themselves.
    They marched through the institutions only to find that when they are in charge the institutions have lost their respecatability and purpose.

  135. Rococo Liberal

    Really , how absolutely thick is the MSM.

    As the Tory victory in 2015, Brexit and Trump’s election show, the MSM has no power anymore.
    We can all see how bad they are. So don’t worry, they are killing themselves.
    They marched through the institutions only to find that when they are in charge the institutions have lost their respecatability and purpose.

  136. Snoopy

    Trump thinking Obama exhorted illegals to vote.

    Dumb.

  137. hzhousewife

    Re the “popular” vote in the US, it can never be determined if all the votes are not counted, and it is my understanding that they stop counting the postals etc once a clear majority is reached that these unopened votes cannot change.

  138. srr

    PIZZAGATE AUSTRALIA?
    Posted on November 26, 2016 by IWorkForKek

    This very popular Melbourne pub that has been a pizzeria since 2000
    originally the de`core was a lot more full on, it had baby dolls (naked) in cages hanging all over the place from the walls, ceilings as well as dildos and strap-ons… it was very creepy but until #pizzagate i never thought to much about it. I went there yesterday out of curiosity to see if there is a connection with comet pizza.

    This is what I found.
    ..
    This is the website —– —— . The current owners have taken a lot of the offensive dolls/decoration down (there is no more dildos etc). There are still a few things remaining that raise some serious questions about the activities of the previous owners and the underlining message of the place.
    Only baby left –

    continue at –
    http://archive.fo/6Oj5J

    Ah yes, Fitzroy, where no one bats an eye at the most grotesquely abnormal; where better to hide in plain sight 👿
    Oh, and this is one of the baby dolls that’s still there, hanging upside down behind a rusty cage in full leather bondage …

    42w
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BBb-nmMJZpc/

    bimbodeluxe It’s Saturday…. You know what to do. Adam askew, @mattrad & silverfox will be flying the plane tonight @bimbodeluxe ? @shuab89 tattooed kewpie by @tastes_like_bacon #bimbodeluxe #northsidepride #3065 #allthekolsch #howgoodarebeers #bringyourflippers #cans #drinklocal #pizzasluts

    … but hey, “It’s just ‘Art’!”, right mister prime minister … 😡 👿

  139. struth

    He and his voters are as dumb as dog poo.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

  140. Ragu

    Seriously, government and it’s chambers are full to the brim with complete shit heads that believe they can over turn anything outside of their jurisdiction.

    I wonder who in the senate will put the motion of a point of order and shut up that Taswegian idiot. Labor or liberal?

  141. Trump just cleaned you and your ilk’s clock, monty. Shoosh.

  142. calli

    Snoopy
    #2221684, posted on November 28, 2016 at 9:32 am
    Trump thinking Obama exhorted illegals to vote.

    Dumb.

    I posted that video of Obama yesterday. Unless Barry was using a sophisticated method of mind control, he wanted citizens to vote, not illegals.

    People on the conservative side need to publish the truth, not doctored stuff. There is more then enough real material to damn the left without using rubbish.

  143. Ragu

    Trump thinking Obama exhorted illegals to vote.

    Obama didn’t exhort. He went with executive action.

    Trim your sideburns and try and keep up

  144. Stimpson J. Cat

    He and his voters are as dumb as dog poo.

    Have a coffee for f*cks sake Monty.
    Honestly.

  145. calli

    No one needed to doctor Hillary’s “deplorables” speech. That’s why it was so powerful.

  146. struth

    She still hasn’t found the right size cock, er , I mean man yet.
    No wonder.
    Is Lambie really Kim Day Night?

  147. Tom

    He and his voters are as dumb as dog poo.

    Another one for the wrongology file — from the leftist ruling class’s shoeshine boy.

  148. Snoopy

    Calli, I was told by a leftist friend that Obama was dog whistling. Only leftists and dogs can hear dog whistles.

  149. cohenite

    0nty

    #2221680, posted on November 28, 2016 at 9:27 am

    Donald J. Trump [email protected] 2h2 hours ago
    In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

    He and his voters are as dumb as dog poo.

    It’s the smart move. The evidence is clear in California. If Trump was your usual milksop republican he would be taking this on the chin. The fuckwits of the left still don’t appreciate they’re dealing with someone who reciprocates their tactics.

  150. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    Trump admits the electoral system is corrupt.
    That is not exactly going to help him when a court of law is deciding on a recount.
    Dumb move DJT.

    Well call me dumb, and you’d be mostly right, but I can’t see how pointing out the obvious by Trump is “dumb”? It’s not exactly a state secret that fraudulent voting is going on.
    ————————————————————–
    hzhousewife
    counting the postals etc once a clear majority is reached that these unopened votes cannot change
    Yes I checked it myself, in some states they stop counting once the remaining votes make no difference to the outcome.

  151. calli

    Snoopy
    #2221698, posted on November 28, 2016 at 9:50 am
    Calli, I was told by a leftist friend that Obama was dog whistling. Only leftists and dogs can hear dog whistles.

    Trump should be concentrating on the recount, not b/s’ing about California and the PV.

    The recount should be scrutineered to within an inch of its life. It may well be that fraud is discovered. It may also be that his lead increases.

    On the dog whistle, no wonder I was deaf. He looked so honest and doe eyed, too. ?

  152. Nic

    C’mon Monty, give us the latest polls again.

  153. Ragu

    People like mOnty are sad, believe me. This kind of person is definitely not one of the many beautiful people, many many people, that believe in the Republic

  154. Infidel Tiger

    The left are demanding a recount claiming the election was rigged.

    Trump tweets that the election was rigged.

    What the hell is going on? He needs to shut up.

  155. John Comnenus

    Infidel still telling us how dumb Trump is.

    The fact is that two election fraud watchdog groups have scoured the records and claimed that 3 million illegal immigrants voted. I understand that they are launching legal action.

    If the Republicans can win one more State Governership at the mid terms and hold all the ones they have as well as the Senate and Congress then they can amend the Consitution. Introducing some electoral integrity laws via a Constitutional Amendment might be good. Examples can include:
    -Mandatory voted ID (should introduce that in Aust as well)
    -All voter rolls to be kept in a standardised way and purged of interstate moves and deaths, similar to Aust, then the rolls close prior to any early voting.
    -Standardise the early and absentee voting arrangements
    -Standardise publishing of voting results

    There are probably some others, I would personally remove all electronic voting systems used on the day and force pencil and paper votes to avoid the ‘Russian Hack’ scenarios.

  156. Tom

    The tweets mocking the Canadian idiot for worshipping Castro are very funny:

    Rahim Mohamed [email protected]_nc
    Today we remember Adolf Hitler, whose vision for the autobahn changed the face of vehicular transportation forever #TrudeauEulogies
    5:32 AM – 27 Nov 2016

    Chris Kenny
    ? [email protected]
    Osama Bin Laden worked tirelessly to promote tighter airline security around the world. #trudeaueulogies
    3:15 PM – 27 Nov 2016

    Melissa Lantsman [email protected]
    “Mr. Stalin’s greatest achievement was his eradication of obesity in the Ukraine through innovative agricultural reforms.” #TrudeauEulogies
    5:47 AM – 27 Nov 2016

    Jason Markusoff
    ? [email protected]
    “While controversial, Darth Vader achieved great heights in space construction & played a formative role in his son’s life” #trudeaueulogies
    5:01 AM – 27 Nov 2016

    PS: I can’t get Fisky’s theory out of my mind — that Castro is Trudeau’s father.

  157. DrBeauGan

    M0nty, the terrible truth is that you are the one who is dumb as dog poo. Dimly realising this, you long ago elected to choose someone else to do your thinking for you, and joined up to a gang of ‘intellectuals’ to do it.

    Unfortunately, being who you are, you chose the wrong gang.

  158. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    The Turkish government is yet to respond to Australia about the federal government’s wish to extradite Islamic State recruiter Neil Prakash.

    “He’s obviously subject at the moment to the Turkish justice system, and Turkish legal processes,” Justice Minister Michael Keenan told ABC radio.

    Melbourne-born Prakash is being detained in Turkey after being arrested trying to leave Syria using false identity papers.

    “They’re very aware of our keen interest,” Mr Keenan said of the Turkish government.

    Australia may have to wait in line as intelligence agencies in the European Union, United States and Israel make the case to question Prakash.

    “The most important thing, of course, is that people involved in allegations of this nature face justice.”

    More: Why arrest is such a big deal

    Prakash has been an effective propagandist and recruiter for ISIS, having been a regular at the Al-Furqan centre in Melbourne’s south before he left for Syria in 2013.

    He was said to have been in touch with Numan Haider, the radicalised Melbourne teenager who was shot and killed after attacking two officers outside a police station in the suburb Endeavour Hills in 2014.

    Prakash has also been linked to other foiled attacks in Australia, including one planned for Anzac Day celebrations in Melbourne.

    Mr Keenan wouldn’t go into the details of the extradition request or the allegations Prakesh would face from Australian authorities.

    From the Oz. Why does Australia WANT to extradite this plank? He’ll only become a martyr….

  159. Zatara

    What the hell is going on? He needs to shut up.

    Not if the left stands to lose much more by an intense review of the voting registration roles.

  160. Oh come on

    I wouldn’t presume to speak for others, but I speculate that many will consider your response to Armadillo’s question, given here, to be less than sincere. That’s certainly how I feel.

    Well, Oco, you are wrong.

    In the response to Armadillo I basically said 3 things:

    Why on earth do you think that warranted a repeat of what you said earlier? I’m not interested in engaging you over your wacky charges that Trump is a truther. It’s got to the point whereby I don’t see any benefit in refuting you anymore. I’m happy to leave your twisted rationale as to why you think Trump is a truther where it lies, and others can make up their own minds about why you’d assume such a position.

    Now, you can say I’m wrong until you’re blue in the face. You can parrot the same points until you’re blue in the face. I still think you’re being insincere about all three points – your dogged persistence in slurring Trump as a truther by the most tenuous logic you can concoct* speaks far more persuasively than any denial you could issue. I’ll let others make their own decision as to whether they agree with me or not.

    *and I’m not interested in discussing this logic any further with you. This is the decision I’ve arrived at. You had ample opportunity to walk back your initial claim, and instead you decided to double down

  161. Ragu

    Australia may have to wait in line as intelligence agencies in the European Union, United States and Israel make the case to question Prakash.

    Pure conjecture. I would hope that the four countries with an interest interview old mate at the same time

  162. Oh come on

    People like mOnty are sad, believe me. This kind of person is definitely not one of the many beautiful people, many many people, that believe in the Republic

    And it’s tragic, really folks, it’s tragic, when I see this kind of person. You know, as I’ve travelled around this beautiful country, I’ve been honoured to get to know so many wonderful people. Wonderful, wonderful people in our healthcare services, which should be, as I’ve said before, the best in the world. We will make it great again – for all of us. And our wonderful people in healthcare, they will help people like this.

  163. DrBeauGan

    Infidel, for two years now, you’ve consistently misunderestimated Trump. Maybe you should consider the possibility that you’re doing it again.

  164. calli

    Heh. Just reflecting on the silliness of a retired builder, now housewife, from a post-Colonial backwater advising Trump on what he should and shouldn’t do.

    ?

  165. Gab

    Go gently with m0nty, people. He’s in mourning for Castro.

  166. Ragu

    And it’s not just health care, Obamacare has been a disaster, we all now that.

    But as I travel around our beautiful country, and it is a wonderful beautiful place, full of beautiful people just like you. Yes you.

    For me it seems that nobody has a purpose, we aren’t great anymore. Great people without a purpose because the Jon’s just aren’t there. You know, we are in the eighth year, eights years it’s true, eighth year of the Obama presidency and we still aren’t winning.

    We are losing, bigtime. Losing on trade, losing in the middle east. You know what we are going to do? We are going to make ourselves great again

  167. Senile Old Guy

    An equal percentage of voters now either approves or disapproves of the way Turnbull is doing his job, giving him a net approval rating of zero.

    More winning!

    It found support for minor parties has soared to 18%, five percentage points higher than at the 2 July election.

    It’s not hard to see why.

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Infidel, for two years now, you’ve consistently misunderestimated Trump. Maybe you should consider the possibility that you’re doing it again.

    I did once predict that the rat haired fat face could win all 50 states, so I was a little off.

    I think it’s time he was off twitter though.

  169. People on the conservative side need to publish the truth, not doctored stuff. There is more then enough real material to damn the left without using rubbish.

    Why should they bother, calli? Wingnut idiots will believe anything. The truth requires work, lies are cheaper. The free market, working as designed.

  170. Gab

    Oooh, ooh, m0nty said “wingnuts”!

    Everybody take a shot of your favourite tipple.

  171. Ragu

    I reckon Monty needs a hot coffee enema

  172. Trump has shown the truth is so far out of style, it’s completely irrelevant. He can make up anything at all and tweet it out, and millions will nod and say yes. The incentives for the right are all towards joining him in being lazier than a three-toed sloth on valium. Why invest in research? You’ll get undercut by teenagers from Macedonia posting lies that idiots want to hear. Literally.

  173. Mark A

    m0nty
    Why should they bother, calli? Wingnut idiots will believe anything. The truth requires work, lies are cheaper.

    I wonder how far your own research goes m0nty?
    Easy to criticize, but where do you get your own mail?

    Many of us give links to international sites of all colours and persuasions, how about you?

  174. Ragu

    Why invest in research?

    Indeed. No brain cells were involved in your Custer at the Alamo rant

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tom’s and one other’s extracts from the Trudeau pile-on make for much levity. How does one get into the repository of such wisdom, so one can savour more?

  176. Mark A

    Buzzfeed monty?
    You need more than a cuppa.

  177. stackja

    Donald J. Trump [email protected] 3 hours ago
    It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4–
    Donald J. Trump [email protected] 3 hours ago
    states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!

  178. H B Bear

    Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack.

    mUnty is back.

  179. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack.

    mUnty is back.

    “Special on rakes, with heavy duty handles….”

  180. John64

    It is quite delicious when TheirABC and one of their heroes of Indigenous Australia have a major falling out.

    In retaliation to Noel Pearson last week branding TheirABC as a miserable, racist organisation; prominent stories on AM and online report Pearson’s foul abuse and bullying of a Minister and Queensland Education staff and maladministration of the Good to Great education program at the Caper York Academy.

    Pearson requested a meeting with Ms Google last week. Jeez I’d love to be a fly on the wall if that goes ahead.

  181. Tom

    Paywallian:

    The centre right Les Republicans party will go into next year’s general election led by hardline “Thatcherite’’ former prime minister Francois Fillon, who fended off another former prime minister, Alain Juppe, in a leadership ballot overnight.

    Fillon, who was a rank outsider a month ago has staged a stunning coup to head Les Republicans, and is now the hot favourite to take on the Front National party and its leader Marine Le Pen in a general election in May, with the Socialists considered rank outsiders to take one of the final two positions.

    “France wants the truth and France wants action,’’ Fillon said in his victory speech, fuelling calls to rip apart France and then rebuild it.

    Critically, France’s diplomatic relationships are now poised to change with Fillon, 62, vowing to lift economic sanctions imposed on Russia for annexing Crimea and Le Pen also pitching a pro-Russian stance.

    Fillon is a Conservative Catholic, with a Welsh wife, Penelope, and is a father of five, who previously voted against same sex marriage. He has vowed to go to next year’s polls with strict economic reforms and plans to cut more than half a million public sector jobs, reduce public spending by €110bn, raise value added tax by 2 to 3.5 per cent and end the 35-hour working week as well as extending the retirement age from 62 years to 65. Fillon has flagged lowering the cap on unemployment benefits as well as cutting levies on businesses and implementing tax cuts for families. He has also garnered support from the well-heeled for his plans to scrap the country’s wealth tax.

    Fillon has openly embraced the tough decisions made by the former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, known as the Iron Lady, and considers any comparisons made of him to her as a compliment.

  182. max

    As a former person of the left, I listened to Melbourne’s radio 3CR yesterday.

    The Trump hysteria and general meltdown was delicious.

    Clementine Ford was speechifying to a group of schoolkids and kept telling them ‘It’s OK to hate. It’s f*ckin OK.’ My, she is one angry person.

    A lot of discussion about Mike Pence and what he would be doing to restrict abortion. Everyone agreed ‘he is more dangerous than Trump.’

    And, of course, ‘Trump is Hitler.’

    I savoured every word with delight.

  183. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2221706, posted on November 28, 2016 at 9:59 am
    The left are demanding a recount claiming the election was rigged.

    Trump tweets that the election was rigged.

    What the hell is going on? He needs to shut up.

    Which USA election was not rigged? Dems always have the dead voting often.

  184. egg_

    Scroll alert!
    B-17
    Hope it gives a bit of respite.

    Fantastic low level flight in the video – beats the nutter who crashed the B-52.

  185. Ragu

    I read that Strzelecki took a herd of elephants over the MacDonnell Ranges to vanquish the Mayan.

    Is that correct, Monty?

  186. Geriatric Mayfly

    It might be a mistake to bring that Prakesh creature back here too soon. The Turks, I am sure, have unique ways of squeezing information out of him, which would never be countenanced here.

  187. C.L.

    While it was determined that Mr Dubsky was not one of the army officers involved in the Jedi Council ring …

    FFS.
    Earth to The Australian: there WAS NO “Jedi Council ring.”

    Miranda Devine explained all of this:
    If David Morrison had any honour, he’d resign.

  188. Arky

    Ragu
    #2221755, posted on November 28, 2016 at 10:51 am
    I read that Strzelecki took a herd of elephants over the MacDonnell Ranges to vanquish the Mayan.

    Is that correct, Monty?

    ..
    No that was Hannibal.
    As played by Anthony Hopkins in the documentary of the same name.

  189. Mark A

    Tom
    raise value added tax by 2 to 3.5 per cent
    That should read from 20% to 23.5%.

    In all EU countries I travel the avg is 20% Hungary is a leader with 27% a real killer, but not the highest in the world, so there is that going for it..

  190. Ragu

    Any which way, Prakesh must be interviewed in English by any and every spook in the world at the same time

    And then waterboarded

  191. Mark A

    Ragu
    Any which way, Prakesh must be interviewed in English by any and every spook in the world at the same time

    And then waterboarded

    You have a soft spot for him then?

  192. JC

    Which USA election was not rigged? Dems always have the dead voting often.

    The Clintons better be careful with this. Trump gave them a sort of pass with their illegalities. This is going to piss him right off sand it’s not a good thing to do if you’re potentially in trouble.

  193. Ragu

    As played by Anthony Hopkins in the documentary of the same name

    Ahhhhhh

    But hang on, why did he cut that blokes cranium in the second documentary? Did he think Polo was full of it?

  194. C.L.

    If it’s true that Trump overcame a couple million illegal votes (and I have no doubt it is), Trump may be the last Republican president. He needs to ramp up immigration from Asia and Eastern Europe.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump has shown the truth is so far out of style

    You’d prefer Mrs Clinton do you M0nty?

    Hillary Clinton is a congenital liar

    Maybe you think it depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

  196. JC

    You’re right Monster. The kids should be reading Buzzfeed for fake news.

  197. stackja

    JC
    #2221765, posted on November 28, 2016 at 11:01 am
    Which USA election was not rigged? Dems always have the dead voting often.

    The Clintons better be careful with this. Trump gave them a sort of pass with their illegalities. This is going to piss him right off sand it’s not a good thing to do if you’re potentially in trouble.

    Dems don’t care and MSM are of no help.

  198. Zatara

    The Clintons better be careful with this.

    The Clintons might not care too much but the Democrat party risks having major damage done to its vote fraud programs. I’m sure they are having kittens.

  199. Trump has shown the truth is so far out of style

    Indeed, he did. He exposed the Democratic Party-media-academic complex and their supporters as being completely uninterested in the truth about anything.

  200. stackja

    Kaepernick: Castro talk taken out of context
    ESPN – ?31 minutes ago?
    MIAMI GARDENS, Fla. — San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick said Sunday he believes his comments about former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro to South Florida media last week were taken out of context.

  201. C.L.

    At Bolt’s: Age casually smears Pell. Again

    Father Walshe – an associate of Cardinal George Pell –

    Paul Keating – an associate of Bob Collins

    Peter Beattie – an associate of Keith Wright

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    And then waterboarded

    And then he has to come to my group sessions and talk about feelings and I can throw stuffed unicorns at him.
    The stuffed unicorns are magical because they have a brick inside.
    They give you sweet dreams.

  203. stackja

    Zatara
    #2221774, posted on November 28, 2016 at 11:10 am
    The Clintons better be careful with this.

    The Clintons might not care too much but the Democrat party risks having major damage done to its vote fraud programs. I’m sure they are having kittens.

    Dems ‘vote fraud programs’ are always working well.

  204. vr

    More on the removal of high denomination Rupee notes from circulation — from the Indian Express

  205. Ragu

    After that game, he showed up at a news conference wearing a T-shirt depicting a meeting between Castro, who was alive then, and the late black rights activist Malcolm X.

    Also

    Over a teleconference call, Kaepernick reportedly praised Castro for investing in Cuba’s education system, as opposed to the American investment in the prison system, according to Salguero.

    Kaepernick got a lot of criticism earlier this month. He didn’t vote in the recent election, saying it would be “hypocritical” of him to cast a ballot.

    He is as real sharp one

    Headline from the Miami Herald

    Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro

    I reckon Kaepernick stock just reached a dollar

  206. Zulu Kilo Die Onuitspreeklike

    Any which way, Prakesh must be interviewed in English by any and every spook in the world at the same time

    And then waterboarded

    You have a soft spot for him then?

    This has come up on this blog previously. Modern methods and techniques of interrogation means you can starch and iron someone without laying a finger on them, where time is not crucial.

    “Never laid a finger on him. No force involved at all. He told us everything we wanted to know.”

  207. Zatara

    Dems ‘vote fraud programs’ are always working well.

    They won’t be if he pushes the 3 million fraudulent votes issue into a federal investigation which leads to long needed major changes in the voting procedures in the US.

    And isn’t it nice that the Dems are asking for it so they can’t blame him? “Just following the evidence folks”.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Notafan

    #2221663, posted on November 28, 2016 at 9:07 am

    France’s borders have been closed since Nov 2015.

    Good.
    That prevents the cancerous Muzzie nutbags they’ve been nurturing since the 1970’s from getting out.

  209. Top Ender

    Jeezus! Just read the Noel Pearson story supplied by John64.

    Surprising he’s still operating. Also surprising he ain’t been reported to the Triggster et al.

    Then again, maybe he has. We would never know.

  210. stackja

    Zatara
    #2221786, posted on November 28, 2016 at 11:18 am
    Dems ‘vote fraud programs’ are always working well.

    They won’t be if he pushes the 3 million fraudulent votes issue into a federal investigation which leads to long needed major changes in the voting procedures in the US.

    And isn’t it nice that the Dems are asking for it so they can’t blame him? “Just following the evidence folks”.

    I am skeptical of there being any ‘major changes in the voting procedures in the US’.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #2221750, posted on November 28, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Paywallian:

    The centre right Les Republicans party will go into next year’s general election led by hardline “Thatcherite’’ former prime minister Francois Fillon, who fended off another former prime minister, Alain Juppe, in a leadership ballot overnight.

    There’s a pattern forming here.
    I love that he regards the comparison to Thatcher as a compliment.

  212. The left are demanding a recount claiming the election was rigged.

    Trump tweets that the election was rigged.

    What the hell is going on? He needs to shut up.

    Nah. He’s doing what no one has ever done, he is refusing to let the left seize and control the narrative. Trump has taken their BS, escalated and thrown it straight back in their faces. Now when the term “electoral fraud” is raised Team Right will raise the proven issue of illegals and zombie voting while Team Wrong are stuck talking about a recount in one State called by a loony left tree hugger that will come to nothing.
    The man is so sharp that Hattori Hanzo has named a sword after him.

  213. notafan

    The illegals are most likely in California which is where the ‘PV’ was won and which, coincidentally has the most lenient voting rules regarding postal and ‘absentee’ voting.

    Continue with the EC and there is no reason, unless large number of illegals move to swing states who then relax their voting laws (why would they) I am reasonably confident that the Republicans have a fighting chance, particularly if two/three million illegals get the boot.

  214. Zatara

    I am skeptical of there being any ‘major changes in the voting procedures in the US’.

    I can understand that. What I’m pointing out is that this may be the best opportunity in a generation or two to fix it. Whether it is a bridge too far this presidential term remains to be seen.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Tom
    #2221708, posted on November 28, 2016 at 10:03 am
    The tweets mocking the Canadian idiot for worshipping Castro are very funny:

    That will sting most of all.
    To be criticised by opposition “alt-right” politicians is no big deal … a badge of honour even.
    But for a hip-left politician to be laughed at on Twatter … that is the ultimate indignity.

  216. Mark A

    vr
    Gold is your answer. I don’t have much but have enough in solid physical sense in small weights to live on for a time while order is restored in case of a civil emergency, or to cushion the effect of government bastardy.

  217. Tintarella di Luna

    Prego Tinta.
    And that’s the limit of my Italian.
    NO I tell a lie I can also order food and drink. Survival instinct I suppose.

    Speaking Italian Food and Drink makes your Italian very handy indeed

  218. stackja

    Zatara
    #2221798, posted on November 28, 2016 at 11:27 am
    I am skeptical of there being any ‘major changes in the voting procedures in the US’.

    I can understand that. What I’m pointing out is that this may be the best opportunity in a generation or two to fix it. Whether it is a bridge too far this presidential term remains to be seen.

    We will know more in 2017.

  219. John64

    Top Ender
    #2221788, posted on November 28, 2016 at 11:19 am
    Jeezus! Just read the Noel Pearson story supplied by John64.
    Surprising he’s still operating. Also surprising he ain’t been reported to the Triggster et al.
    Then again, maybe he has. We would never know.

    It’s quite simple really. It’s impossible to be a bully or a racist of you’re Indigenous and/or of the Left.

    (I also cite in support of this the non-response to Bandana Man’s blatant racial slur last week against a coloured South African.)

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    Obviously the force is with Mr Kaepernick like it is with Luke Skywalker.

    Mark Hamill: Trump’s Cabinet a ‘Who’s Who of Really Despicable People’

    In an interview with the Daily Beast published Sunday, the actor behind Luke Skywalker in the iconic film series said he is still “in total denial” about the results of this year’s presidential election.

    “I’m glad I have [the show Pop Culture Quest] to take my mind off what’s going on,” Hamill told the outlet of his new Web series about comics and memorabilia collectors. “Because if you look at what’s being assembled for our government it’s like, yikes. It’s a who’s-who of really despicable people.”

    Hamill didn’t mention any of the President-elect’s appointments by name, but Trump has filled several Cabinet and administrative positions since his victory over Hillary Clinton earlier this month.

    Does that mean Mike Pence is Darth Maul or Darth Vader?

  221. Top Ender

    Thanks for the B-17, Egg.

    In return, allow me to share some low passes from one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built, the SR-71 Lockheed Blackbird

  222. Tintarella di Luna

    Prego Tinta.
    Congratulations Tinta.
    Stimpy is a great name for a boy.
    Mark A she may have wanted to keep it a secret.
    Discretion.

    Stimpy it would be lovely but no — the Italian for pregnant is incinta — it is close to Tinta though

  223. notafan

    Note the definition of sexual abuse that Peter O’Callaghan used in finding that Fr Walshe was guilty.

    I don’t have a problem with the Church using such a standard but for the MSM to use it, not so much.

    Further note that later ‘incidents’ had an ‘element of consent’.

    He defined sexual abuse as: “conduct of a sexual nature that is inconsistent with the public vows, integrity of the ministerial relationship, duties or professional responsibilities of church personnel.”


    The Peter Walshe matter

  224. Top Ender

    Pearson story now running on the front page of the Oz.

    Noel Pearson denies insulting Queensland Education Minister Kate Jones

    The Australian10:58AM November 28, 2016

    Cape York Aboriginal leader Noel Pearson has denied ever calling Queensland Education Minister Kate Jones a “white c***”, but admitted calling a former senior bureaucrat a “maggot”.

    Comments are open beneath the story. Will be interesting seeing how they go. Pearson may have to go on gardening leave forever over this. He made the mistake of being nasty to a female, with the story running just after white ribbon day etc.

  225. MarkA;
    If you are interested, put “Stormbird Project” into google. It will send you to a site where they are building Me 262A. Verry interesting.

  226. Infidel Tiger

    vr
    Gold is your answer. I don’t have much but have enough in solid physical sense in small weights to live on for a time while order is restored in case of a civil emergency, or to cushion the effect of government bastardy.

    Anyone who believes gold will be useful in the event of societal breakdown is a moron.

    Gold only has value in an ordered society.

    Ammunition, food and toilet paper will have value, your gold will be a millstone.

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ammunition, food and toilet paper will have value, your gold will be a millstone.

    My plans for the apocalypse included this.
    I was planning on growing my hair really long and selling it as a premium scented golden toilet paper but alas male pattern baldness destroyed my entrepreneurial dreams.

  228. Pearson may have to go on gardening leave forever over this. He made the mistake of being nasty to a female, with the story running just after white ribbon day etc.

    I think Pearson has a much higher coefficient than white female pollie in the Victim Value Index which means he can say pretty much anything and get away with it.

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