“I stand with Mark Latham and I want him back”

The words in the heading are Ross Cameron’s from yesterday’s Outsiders and let me say the same for myself, I stand with Mark Latham and I want him back. Sky News has to understand that they are responsible for what is wanton destruction of possibly the best political satire and commentary we have seen in years. The management team at Sky are to Outsiders what Yoko Ono was to the Beatles. Ross and Rowan Dean were excellent on their own but Mark makes it even better. If you are interested in listening to the audio that trapped Mark Latham, you can find it here at Andrew Bolt.

We were also reminded on the show how the ranks of the non-left are continuously being depleted, with the loss of Bill Leak, who was represented by his son; with the absence of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, whose visit to Australia has had to be postponed; and by the disappearance of Mark Latham himself. I am hardly alone in wanting him back.

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31 Responses to “I stand with Mark Latham and I want him back”

  1. Malcolm Thomas

    Je suis Mark Latham

  2. Nerblnob

    “Wonton” sounds a bit dimsome.

  3. Tom

    “I stand with Mark Latham and I want him back”

    Bullshit. You and Rowan Dean love Dark Sky’s money more than your principles, you hypocrite. If you had really refused to support Frangapants’ censorship of Sky’s content, you wouldn’t be here, but here you are.

    All you have achieved is to mock a great idea. And now you want us to endorse Sky’s gutlessness and contempt for its audience by watching this abomination? Give us a spell.

    Go and grow a pair.

  4. Ray

    Come one, the show was boring and repetitive. Any wonder that its ratings struggled to reach an audience of 30,000.

    Outsiders made no attempt to provide any political, social or economic content outside of its tedious lampooning of the regressive left, politically correct establishment. Sure the neo-Marxists are deserving of our ridicule but one episode of Outsiders was more than enough let alone having to stomach a regular Sunday dosage.

    Let us face the fact that Outsiders had a limited target audience, the devout anti-PC brigade. However, the show was never going to be the vehicle which could bring down the ABC and the rest of the MSM, especially when it was anchored by a former Labor leader who had never lost his social democratic leanings and so the ideological antithesis of many of its his viewers.

    In short, Outsiders was an interesting experiment which had outlived its use by date after the first airing.

  5. alexnoaholdmate

    “Wonton destruction”?

    Me so solly!

  6. Jonesy

    Given time, and with developing a bigger following, outsiders could have become the Sunday morning foil to combat the leftie dogma of insiders and the doubtfull personal musings of PVO. Right now, they are the opposite of theirBC…a conservative libertarian echo chamber.

  7. Tel

    You and Rowan Dean love Dark Sky’s money more than your principles, you hypocrite.

    I’m pretty sure they are both capitalists, so it’s safe to love money as one of your principles.

    At any rate, destroying the show completely would be a message to the SJW’s that they won.

  8. struth

    Let us face the fact that Outsiders had a limited target audience, the devout anti-PC brigade.

    That’s about 80% of Australia.

    Outsiders made no attempt to provide any political, social or economic content outside of its tedious lampooning of the regressive left, politically correct establishment.

    Unlike the ABC Insiders, a well balanced show of Abbott666, SSM, and solar panels and batteries.

    However, the show was never going to be the vehicle which could bring down the ABC and the rest of the MSM, especially when it was anchored by a former Labor leader who had never lost his social democratic leanings and so the ideological antithesis of many of its his viewers.

    No, and Trump was never going to be president according to the profound intellect and crystal ball analysis by the types of lefties that also display this type of pompous stupidity.
    Others can see straight through this type of nervous wishful thinking.

    The show was just starting out.
    Talking about it’s ratings is moronic.
    It got closed down because a greek was suckholing to the ABC and needed to show his Marxist credentials to get a well paid job for life that wasn’t performance based.

    If I was Mark Latham, I wouldn’t go back without thinking twice.
    I would require the Greek to be gone and a pay rise.
    Other than that, times are changing.
    People are turning the tele off in their millions around the world.
    A lot of people on this blog need to remember that many of us are (to be polite) on the top of the hill and some are nearly at the bottom and sliding headfirst into the six foot hole at the base (to be not so polite).
    The younger generations don’t watch TV.
    It is there to watch downloaded movies or play games on a big screen.

    Mark Latham, in the long run, might be better to stay where he is.
    A like and a share can send a message around the world.
    I’m no expert on the Internet.
    Like number of hits or views.
    How many times is a You tube video really scene if people lift it and post it elsewhere, as SRR and others do here often?
    Advertising is really getting stuck into popular youtube channels etc, so …..anyway………the point being, Sky needs Latham more than Latham may need Sky.

  9. Another old bloke

    Ray,

    There is a vast difference between having the freedom to turn the bloody TV set off/change channels and not being able to watch at all because a cowardly off-camera pussy took it upon himself to censor Mark Latham.

    But since you’re one of the PC censors, apparently, I can understand where your posturing comes from.

    As for poor confused Tom, the less said the better.

  10. egg_

    Outsiders was an interesting experiment…

    IIRC it is still running – why the past tense – not the same sans Latho?

  11. Philippa Martyr

    ‘Wanton’, not ‘wonton’.

    Thank you alex.

  12. Baldrick

    Yes, but would Mark Latham want Sky back. Seems he’s already talking to a bigger audience …

    Real Mark Latham @RealMarkLatham
    10 days in and more than 350,000 video views of Mark Latham’s Outsiders Facebook page – great encouragement. Thank you Aussie outsiders!

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hairy wanted to watch it, so we did. Ross Cameron at least said the right things, Rowan Dean seemed to me to be more circumspect re the owners of Sky (Hairy says this is because he is an editor and that is what editors are like). I don’t blame these two for not letting the show die, walking would have lost what little serious critique exists on air in Australia, but Outsiders is certainly crippled now, it has no satirical edge, and SKY, WE WILL NOT FORGET WHAT YOU DID TO A LOYAL AUDIENCE.

    The show was NOT the same show without Mark Latham. It had lost its zing, its three-way repartee, and seemed to be dragged through the hour rather than hooting and satirizing its way through. The two presenters clearly seemed uncomfortable in the new format. It’s turned into a sort of talk show rather than an amazing satirical festival that we all looked forward to so much each week. A continually rotating menu of new faces in the third position will hardly allow the same sort of bonhomie (and please note that term is gendered; no women needed) and masculine pub wit to emerge.

    What on earth was the chinless wonder in charge of Sky thinking?

    BRING BACK MARK LATHAM.

    Just to show support we will watch his Facebook Outsiders, but it is an irritating way to see it, as others may get a steady stream of pixels, but we don’t, the show loses contact then turns to Donald Duck noises as it catches up, as we have old ADSL and in this area the usage is heavy. Thanks, Telstra. Currently, it seems ML’s Outsiders is overloaded technically at both sender and receiver ends.

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m glad to hear from Baldrick that Mark Latham’s Outsiders got so many hits. However, that is likely to decline once the ‘let’s see what he’s doing about his sacking and show support’ factor gets less. However, no reason whatsoever why he shouldn’t maintain a Facebook show like this, on his own, as well as rejoin the Sky Outsiders. Rowan Dean and Ross Cameron also appear elsewhere.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Right now, they are the opposite of theirBC…a conservative libertarian echo chamber.

    Yep. And how good it is to see that? Wow, a show that speaks for around 80% of Australians.

    The opposite of TheirABC and the rest of the mainstream media is what you really mean, Jonesy.
    One little show to shake the Nation into waking up to free speech. And wanting more of it.

  16. Ray

    Another Old Bloke, what could possibly induce you to come to the conclusion that my comment was in any way supportive of those who would willingly censor content to support their politically correct world view. Indeed, I made it pretty clear that I agree with the sentiments expressed on Outsiders.

    However, there is a world of difference between agreeing with the views expressed and believing that the program had any political, economic or social value. My comments were merely intended to convey the opinion that Outsiders was tediously repetitive and could only appeal to those who are so wrapped up in their anti-PC crusade that they could waste their Sunday mornings in watching the program regularly.
    Put simply, the average person may well share the anti-PC rhetoric expressed on Outsiders but were not willing to tune in to watch.
    There are 2.5 million subscribers with access to Sky and if only 30,000 at most could stomach the program then that should speak volumes.

  17. Nerblnob

    Philippa Martyr
    #2350549, posted on April 10, 2017 at 8:04 am
    ‘Wanton’, not ‘wonton’.

    Thank you alex

    .
    Ahem. See post #2.

  18. .

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2350597, posted on April 10, 2017 at 9:33 am
    Right now, they are the opposite of theirBC…a conservative libertarian echo chamber.

    Yep. And how good it is to see that? Wow, a show that speaks for around 80% of Australians.

    The opposite of TheirABC and the rest of the mainstream media is what you really mean, Jonesy.
    One little show to shake the Nation into waking up to free speech. And wanting more of it.

    Christ. I like you on a personal level Lizzie but this is delusional.

    Australians have voted consistently to have their freedom destroyed for 45+ years now.

    If the majority of Australians thought like us, we wouldn’t be on this blog, we’d be on the ABC making terrible dramas and pushing our beliefs down everyone else’s throats.

  19. egg_

    10 days in and more than 350,000 video views of Mark Latham’s Outsiders Facebook page – great encouragement.

    Bravo!

  20. egg_

    There are 2.5 million subscribers with access to Sky and if only 30,000 at most could stomach the program then that should speak volumes.

    Not necessarily, it’s Narrowcasting – the range of Channels and programs on the PayTV platform is vast.

  21. struth

    Australians have voted consistently to have their freedom destroyed for 45+ years now.

    Australians voted right wing last time and got left wing.

    Our elites are out of control.
    If you wanna take the blame go right ahead.
    Leave me and the majority right wing voters out of this.

    Ray the show hadn’t been going long enough to draw the conclusions you draw.

    Mostly every episode so far would have had to be in introductory show, to let first time viewers know who and what they were about.
    You don’t know how it would have evolved or grown.

    You remind me of those typical already defeated Aussies that say, oh they’re all the same, what can you do about it?
    They then go on to kill off their own side so they can maintain the winge.

  22. mh

    I remember Kristina Keneally mocking Barry O’Farrell’s marriage breakdown in NSW parliament. Disgusting comment.

  23. Grumbles

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

  24. .

    Australians voted right wing last time and got left wing.

    Pal, that was two elections ago. Update your Delorean or Transylvanian Time Machine. They re-elected a Labor-lite PM who nearly lost to the ALP and Greens.

    Australians have voted consistently to have their freedom destroyed for 45+ years now.

    The majority of Australians are freedom loving right wingers?

    Let’s be reasonable. If half the LNP are that way, we get half the LNP vote plus the minor righties in the Senate and maybe a few who have decided not to vote at all.

    That is 35% on a good day.

  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dot, I’d still say that around 80% of Australians like to feel free to speak their minds. What they speak about of course is quite a different thing; some minds veer left and others veer right but the Aussie way is to give everyone a ‘fair go’ – in other words a hearing, and without shouting them down.

    I suspect some people don’t realise how unfree they are to speak until they hear some speech the like of which they haven’t heard in any recent years. The mind becomes attuned to the automatic censoring that is part of ‘normal’ MSM. It becomes a bit of a wake-up call to hear something different, even if you don’t agree: wow, they think, you can actually say that? There aren’t too many of the ‘shut them down’ mob in the general populace. Except for committed lefties, I haven’t found any so far, and I do get around a bit. It’s well known that I’ll speak to people anywhere, being a fairly chatty type. 🙂

  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You only have to watch videos of those old Fast Forward shows to realise how much leftist conditioning has gone on since then. Outsiders was like revisiting one of those shows; easy-going and a bit outrageous but nothing to ruffle the feathers of most reasonable ‘fair go’ people. The sententious noddies on ABC Insiders and their ilk could bore and win against the sermons of the most dedicated drunken old eighteenth-century parson.

  27. Jannie

    We were also reminded on the show how the ranks of the non-left are continuously being depleted

    But time, reality and personal experience continue to replenish the numbers on the non-left. People are able to mature and free their minds from the statist brainwashing and propaganda that passes for education and entertainment.

    Mark Latham is a beacon, a light on the hill, the more young social democrats who hear him, the more the non-left will grow.

  28. Splatacrobat

    Sky’s Outsiders without Latham is like BBC’s Top Gear without Jeremy Clarkson.

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