Wednesday Forum: May 17, 2017

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  1. notafan

    Still think these guys have the psychology of bankrobbers who found a bank with the door left open every night and kept going back til they got caught.

    In the meantime the bank was scratching it’s head for a couple of years wondering where the money was going missing.

  2. Roger

    Once upon a time, autism referred to a tiny minority of people with very severe communication difficulties. Now, the definition encompasses a lot of behaviours which are well within the normal range, as BoN pointed out.

    Let’s be clear: medically, the diagnosis of autism refers to a disorder that is quite distinct from other “autism-like” developmental disorders and has its own markers. The tiny minority of diagnoses that were made in the past is growing. That growth is the subject of intense research. This is not an imaginary problem caused by lazy medicos.

  3. H B Bear

    Looks like Albo has decided it is now or never.

  4. No probs Adam; great work! I love the XYZ so much we should publicly fund it (even as an economic Libertarian).

    Thanks bro. Pity that most of the commenters missed my point. Trying to work out if it collective reading comprehension fail or writing fail on my part.

  5. Boambee John

    LOL The Cat’s own nuclear physicist m0nty m0ntenheimer, lectures us on nuclear weapon design.

  6. notafan

    If Cranston snr was in it the AFP would have charged him with the larger conspiracy charges.

    H B Bear is right.

    The PS spent too much time worrying about the PC agenda and not enough about maintaining financial integrity of the money entrusted to them by the Australian taxpayer.

    I bet the meeting time on things like gender equality way outpaces making sure their accounting systems and safe guards are robust,

    A 1001 hr and pr staff mixing up word salads but no-one ‘protecting the revenue’ in the most simple and straight forward ways.

  7. Lysander

    Thanks bro. Pity that most of the commenters missed my point. Trying to work out if it collective reading comprehension fail or writing fail on my part.

    Dunno really. I just found it to be an interesting hypothesis.

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    The tiny minority of diagnoses that were made in the past is growing.

    And then you run into the problem of comorbidity.
    Which makes diagnosis diabolical.
    It is not easy when dealing with problems of the brain.

  9. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thanks bro.

    None of that ethnic Kiwi talk thanks.
    Speak English.

  10. Geriatric Mayfly

    Remember too, that Custerheimer brought millions of atoms undone at Los Alamos.

  11. Myrddin Seren

    Part of the AFP’s seized evidence on Underbelly ATO.

    Somebody was tooling up .

  12. Chris

    The XYZ, an anti-ABC.
    I got the memo when it started, but – my apologies – I have failed to keep up.

    Deserves $1B of OPM per annum jsut for ‘Da Fairnesssss’. Or ‘Da Equalidee’.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    Somebody was tooling up .

    Shot by an ATO accountant.
    Imagine the shame.

  14. None of that ethnic Kiwi talk thanks.
    Speak English.

    You loike moi fishin rod?

  15. Myrddin Seren

    Underbelly ATO.

    This is richly ironic under the circumstances:

    ATO raids 12 major firms for fraud evidence

    June 10, 2015

    It is believed 12 major law and accounting firms were raided last week by the ATO for suspected involvement in “phoenix schemes” designed to deliberately bankrupt businesses to avoid paying workers, debts and tax.

    Deputy Tax Commissioner Michael Cranston confirmed it was the biggest operation they had conducted, with more than 100 officers launching unannounced entries across the city to prevent documents being destroyed.

    Mr Collins said the common motivation was for the owners or directors to pull their money out to bankroll “high-flying” lifestyles then bankrupt the business to avoid paying workers, creditors and the tax office.

    No shit, Sherlock.

  16. notafan

    Just read your piece Adam

    Prime Minister Rutte promised his supporters that he would not entertain the option of a power sharing deal with Wilders, but it may be his only option. That is the second manner in which a smaller but truly conservative party can influence the p

    Well that would be a perfect outcome really,

    I thought after the Dutch started pulling back on the welfare state with the formal speech by the King a couple of years ago, that they were already shifting, not right, but conservative, in relation to rights and responsibilities belonging primarily to the individual, not the state.

  17. one old bruce

    I have worked in a specialist school for the disabled, about half the school were autistic.

    I have a a high Hons degree in a theoretical discipline plus a postgrad teaching qualification, yet the number of behavioural similarities I and my family have to those autistic kids and young people can not be a coincidence. In fact I feel closer to them than to normal people, we stim, we obsess, we self-medicate, we melt down, we watch videos in fast forward and backwards (I prefer subtitles as voices annoy me), we control our surroundings, we latch on to a carer but hate groups, our clothes are constricting, we see others as instruments (sorry), we flip fingers around face, can’t walk straight, must watch the ground to avoid tripping and because it has fascinating objects to pick up (my rock collection), we hate people looking in our face, faces are scary.

    Eventually you begin to see that this ‘high functioning’ ‘low functioning’ thing is peripheral. Something deeper is going on we all share, whether we are ‘social’ or not. The Replicants in Blade Runner seem to be a good analogy of this state of alienation. This is just an attempt to respond to the complaints about widening of diagnosis, with my own experience. I was always like this, whatever you want to call it. In the 70s they put me on Valium and suggested Deep Sleep Therapy or hypnosis or meditation. I chose the latter, which led in interesting directions and several years in India.

    This diagnosis is a great help to me because I am able to sort so many things out now. I also sought diagnosis after a melt down incident when the police were involved.

  18. I thought after the Dutch started pulling back on the welfare state with the formal speech by the King a couple of years ago, that they were already shifting, not right, but conservative, in relation to rights and responsibilities belonging primarily to the individual, not the state.

    It’s one of the reasons that I’m moving there.

    Also, isn’t it interesting that there has been no MSM coverage of the collapse in Dutch power sharing talks. The same thing will happen in the French parliamentary elections when they discover that the guy who won the presidency doesn’t actually have any political party to speak of.

  19. Lysander

    I prefer subtitles as voices annoy me

    So the meds aren’t working?

  20. Myrddin Seren

    Underbelly ATO.

    The Underbelly producers hardly even need to hire a squadron of scriptwriters – someone parsing the press can put together 6-8 episodes without a problem:

    Shopping sprees, lavish overseas trips and cosmetic surgery: Accused mastermind, 30, behind $165million tax scam showered ex-lover, 24, with gifts after hiring her as his assistant

    Although their relationship ended some time before Mr Cranston’s wedding in October 2016, Ms Brady told the publication she has been dragged into her former lover’s recent troubles.

    She said her bank accounts – which she said Mr Cranston frequently wired money into even after their breakup – have been frozen and wiped out by the Australian Tax Office.

    Uh huh.

  21. Des Deskperson

    “As far as the ATO scam is concerned dad is in it up to his neck.
    Probably masterminded the whole thing.”

    What’s interesting here is that if Cranston Snr had been an APS 4 in Human Services and been caught passing official information of any sort for whatever reason to an outsider without authorisation, he would almost certainly have been sacked by now, irrespective of whether he was also facing more serious criminal charges.

    I don’t know if ATO has a similar disciplinary policy, but it is always very easy to sack people for this sort of misconduct, which is easy to detect and for which there are no excuses – in most APS agencies (and I’m sure it would be the case in ATO) you can only log on to your computer after you have ticked the on screen icon that registers that you have read the agency’s IT policies and are aware of the penalties for misuse.

    To me, it’s bad look that Cranston hasn’t been done on the spot for misconduct, even if there were no other more serious charges.

  22. Roger

    No honour among thieves:

    Those who allegedly set up the tax fraud scheme apparently even ripped off the straw directors of their various companies – assorted drug addicts & Centrelink recipients – to the tune of 80% of the fees they were promised.

  23. notafan

    Sevag Chalabian, the former lawyer of disgraced politician Eddie Obeid, was also included on a list of people that the alleged syndicate members were not allowed to contact

    The plot thickens

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4517414/Tax-office-boss-tried-cut-deal-save-son.html#ixzz4hUb1OIkj
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  24. Lysander

    in most APS agencies (and I’m sure it would be the case in ATO) you can only log on to your computer after you have ticked the on screen icon that registers that you have read the agency’s IT policies and are aware of the penalties for misuse.

    yes it’s true; but you also have to tick boxes to say you’re sorry about English invasion, you support the GayFL round and that you will openly promote disabled lesbian indigeneity at morning teas.

  25. notafan

    You are right Des, about the APS 4 getting a much rougher time, especially as the two other ATO staff have been suspended without pay.

    But senior people look after their own.

  26. Libby Zee

    To me, it’s bad look that Cranston hasn’t been done on the spot for misconduct, even if there were no other more serious charges.

    It’s interesting, Des, that the ATO staff involved have all been stood down/suspended without pay.

  27. H B Bear

    Can you seize fake cans under the proceeds of crime laws?

  28. Myrddin Seren

    Des

    To me, it’s bad look that Cranston hasn’t been done on the spot for misconduct, even if there were no other more serious charges.

    Maybe he has done a deal with the Feds ?

    Maybe he knows where enough other skeletons are buried that he gets kid glove treatment ?

    Cranston Jr is being labelled the criminal mastermind. Sure – and Carl Williams was the incarnation of Al Capone – not some fat beer pig thug.

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4517414/Tax-office-boss-tried-cut-deal-save-son.html#ixzz4hUb1OIkj

    Interesting link – the biggest tax fraud case in Australian history.

  30. notafan

    Very interesting Adam.

    I read a couple of years ago that the fractures started occurring in the Danish and Dutch welfare states when it became apparent that the indigenous were working and paying very high taxes to support the immigrant, to the point where in Holland,at least, the elderly were being neglected (and euthanized) because there were simply insufficient funds to go round.

    The point made was that welfare states work “reasonably” well in homogeneous societies but when it’s the indigenous lifters versus the immigrant leaners, not so much, especially when the parasitical leaners are grasping,demanding and insulting to their hosts.

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    we stim

    The clue is and always has been in my name.
    😁

  32. Chris

    Can you seize fake cans under the proceeds of crime laws?

    Well, Libby Zee?

  33. incoherent rambler

    I’m disappointed that the role that vampires have in current world events isn’t being given more credence.

    And the cat is the perfect place to air those perfectly reasonable views.

    A (rough) quote from my favourite vampire movie:
    “Make sure no one escapes. It took us years of Hollywood to get people to believe we are just a myth.”

  34. Chris

    Interesting link – the biggest tax fraud case in Australian history.

    Is it bigger than Gottliebsen’s gold GST scam?

  35. Libby Zee

    I am, thank you, Chris. And you?

  36. calli

    Surprised someone didn’t order some concrete boots as a gift.

    The preferred Aussie method is deep water and an Early Kooka.

  37. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Can you seize fake cans under the proceeds of crime laws?

    Yes, but I’d rather seize a pair of big naturals.

  38. calli

    I’m disappointed that the role that vampires have in current world events isn’t being given more credence.

    We already have (metaphorical) orcs and Nazgûl. Vampires would be a good fit.

    *idea* That’s where the ATO story comes in!

  39. notafan

    Maybe those straw directors are vampires!

    I must say that I am somewhat gleeful to see this case blow up the ATO, and on Trumble’s watch too.

    Pity that Plutus Payroll hadn’t won some agile and innovative award.

    That would be too perfect.

    And a bet quite a few of those IT ‘contractors’ were employed by the ATO and other Federal government departments.

    Why else would they be having plush events at the Canberra Hyatt with Miss World Erin Holland (who I’d hadn’t heard of before)

  40. incoherent rambler

    Having trouble keeping up with all the posts. Too busy doing the BAS. (up yours Mrs Howard!)

  41. I read a couple of years ago that the fractures started occurring in the Danish and Dutch welfare states when it became apparent that the indigenous were working and paying very high taxes to support the immigrant, to the point where in Holland,at least, the elderly were being neglected (and euthanized) because there were simply insufficient funds to go round.

    I think that the fractures were happening well before that, (as in the governments running out of other people’s money), but that the immigrant issues finally caused the locals to see and accept the unsustainable reality that they had long bought into.

    One other thing worth noting is that the Dutch are extremely careful with their money. As an example, there is a real dearth of luxury cars in Holland, even cars that here in Australia we might class as now relatively normal such as low end BMWs. Their homes are generally austere, at least from the outside, and they rarely dine out.

    They have this propensity to save their money, strange as it may sound. They also do not look to the government to do things for them. Each individual school for example is run by the parents. There’s a reason that there are no bicycle helmet laws in Holland.

  42. calli

    Still waiting for The Wrath of Gaia to descend in a Biblical scale deluge.

    *tapping foot impatiently*

  43. Stimpson J. Cat

    BAS

    Business Activity Statement.

  44. notafan

    gold scam was $700 million of GST so not quite that big

    An actual gaping hole in the legislation.

  45. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The worst thing about the Cranston/ATO scam is that you know it’s going to be made into a really bad tele-movie starring the bloke who played Carl Williams on Underbelly and a hologram of Bill Hunter.

    There better be a heap of tits in it.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    ATO
    Australian Transexual Office.

  47. Chris

    I am, thank you, Chris. And you?

    Very well, thanks. Nice day, here.

  48. ATO
    Australian Transexual Office.

    I really need to update my optical prescription.
    I read “Office” as another word – with a somewhat different meaning.

  49. notafan

    Most like the same in Denmark Adam, the welfare state was becoming more and more an intolerable burden on workers, and with VAT at 25% and vehicle taxes et that are unbelievably high less and less motivation to work really hard.

    Starting to collapse under it’s own weight and the immigration rackets finished it off quite nicely.

  50. Lysander

    The worst thing about the Cranston/ATO scam is that you know it’s going to be made into a really bad tele-movie starring the bloke who played Carl Williams on Underbelly and a hologram of Bill Hunter.

    IT, I beg to differ… the worst thing about ATO scam (with already having massive over-regulation and boxes to tick) is that this will justify further investment in broadening the ATO structure, power and employment. The Australian Thieves Office will grow thanks to these crooks.

  51. Nota,

    Turns out all those culture enrichers were actually good for something after all.

  52. notafan

    Telemovie?

    Enough material for a mini series at least.

    The rise and fall of Michael Cranston.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear
    #2384227, posted on May 19, 2017 at 1:49 pm
    Can you seize fake cans under the proceeds of crime laws?

    I am going to give it a go.

  54. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Seems from the hearsay that every one of Plutus’s competitors knew it must be a scam from the get go.

    A free service that claimed they would make money offering financial services but never once offered said services to anyone and yet flaunted extreme wealth. No alarm bells there.

  55. incoherent rambler

    To be a hit TV series, we now need a high profile MP to be implicated.
    A couple from each party would be a ratings bonanza.

  56. Chris

    Seems from the hearsay that every one of Plutus’s competitors knew it must be a scam from the get go.

    So will the employees of the companies using Plutus be hit with the underpaid tax bill?

  57. notafan

    Cracking the welfare state takes a long time

    I remember my Danish contacts were already very dubious about their new North African countrymen back in 2004 particularly in regards to how they treated their womenfolk, and the sign in the small town Lutheran missions op shop, in multiple languages, including Arabic, asking people not to steal.

  58. incoherent rambler

    So who got the outsourced job for the ATO’s payroll?

  59. So will the employees of the companies using Plutus be hit with the underpaid tax bill?

    They shouldn’t be.
    It is the responsibility of the employer to remit the PAYG tax.
    This may be bad news – $165 million worth of it – for those employers who used Plutus Payroll Services.

  60. Stimpson J. Cat

    starring the bloke who played Carl Williams on Underbelly and a hologram of Bill Hunter.

    May.
    Get Bert Newton’s son.
    Killer right hook.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Question …
    Assume XYZ Pty Ltd has a PAYG liability of $100,000 and uses a payroll bureau.
    XYZ gets talked into the bureau handling all payments.
    XYZ pays $100k to the bureau who pays $70k to the ATO.
    Who is liable for the shortfall?

  62. incoherent rambler

    Re: Plutus Payroll Services

    Any sudden overseas trips by any MPs?

  63. Stimpson J. Cat

    Greak.
    I just got a new Chinese phone and the authorities are pissed because I revealed their pying tactics so now they are autocorre-chinging all my spelling the ethnic b$stards!

  64. Question …
    Assume XYZ Pty Ltd has a PAYG liability of $100,000 and uses a payroll bureau.
    XYZ gets talked into the bureau handling all payments.
    XYZ pays $100k to the bureau who pays $70k to the ATO.
    Who is liable for the shortfall?

    Monty.

  65. Who is liable for the shortfall?

    The Employer.

  66. Des Deskperson

    “It’s interesting, Des, that the ATO staff involved have all been stood down/suspended without pay.”

    Indeed. I’m not sure how common suspension is in the APS, but in my experience it usually occurs:

    (a) when an employee is under investigation for a breach of he APS Code of Conduct and it is appropriate of desirable the they not remain in the workplace, or
    (b) when an employees is up on a criminal charge and the same considerations apply.

    In my experience it is unusual, even in quite serious cases, for an APS employee to be suspended without pay.

    Of course, we don’t really know the detail of who has done what, or the ATO’s particular policies on the operation of suspension provisions or, indeed, what the AFP/ATOs tactics are in handling the cases, but from my – possibly limited knowledge -of what is happened, it would seem that there was a strong prima facie case for the termination of Cranston and his, err, minions on the spot for misconduct.

  67. incoherent rambler

    My point being that an immediate audit of the ATO’s payroll might be more than interesting.

  68. At the most brutal, the bad news for the Employer clients of Pluto Pup Payroll:
    $165 million in unpaid PAYG
    General Interest Charge on that $165 million
    $330 million in penalty (double the amount evaded).

    North of $500 million in total.

  69. Empire

    Does anyone know if Mueller has concluded his external review into cybersecurity at Booz Allen Hamilton?

    He was engaged to investigate following the arrest of Harold Martin III last year. Martin is alleged to have stolen NSA source code, which may have been used to hack…Russia.

  70. notafan

    I’m pretty sure the employee gets the credit regardless of whether the money is paid. I assume that the employing entity ultimately has the liability for the shortfall.

    That means if the IT contractor is employed by his own one man company he might end up out of pocket anyhow.

    Somewhere in the middle of this is a layer or two setting up all of the companies of course, I wonder who provided Plutus with legal services.

    Also wonder what tertiary quals young Mr Cranston has, seeing as unempluyed plumbers etc are turning up.

    Might be another reason to wonder why dad didn’t wonder just a little bit about the rivers of gold.

  71. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Pretty sure the ATO will just wipe the debt. They are good like that.

  72. Stimpson J. Cat

    Might be another reason to wonder why dad didn’t wonder just a little bit about the rivers of gold.

    The Dad should be jailed for life for having such a f$cking stupid son with hideous taste in women.
    Also he is the ringleader.
    I just know it.
    I want it to be true and believe it is true even if it isn’t.

  73. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Might be another reason to wonder why dad didn’t wonder just a little bit about the rivers of gold.

    Wouldn’t anyone else flaunting ‘rivers of gold” like that have the sleuths of the A.T.O. on their case?

  74. incoherent rambler

    If the ATO employees are innocent, they stand to make a fortune from suing British newspapers/websites (I presume they can).

  75. Mark from Melbourne

    The Dad should be jailed for life for having such a f$cking stupid son with hideous taste in women.

    I reckon the bit on the side is actually pretty cute, in a cutsey sort of way.

  76. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Hmmm. Has someone just telegraphed an ALP involvement?

  77. If the ATO employees are innocent, they stand to make a fortune from suing British newspapers/websites (I presume they can).

    I’ve highlighted the possible obstacle to a prospect of success at litigation.

  78. Stimpson J. Cat

    How many of you ‘orrible lot are applying for this little lurk?

    I’m applying now and when I’m running the show it will be called “Cutting Corners”.
    Maybe “Cutting Kornerz” to appeal to the kids.
    Thoughts?

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Shorten: ATO fraud investigation could distract from Panama Papers
    Bill Shorten Picture: Helen Kempton.

    The Australian
    11:56AM May 19, 2017

    Bill Shorten has expressed concern that an eight-month investigation into an alleged $165 million tax fraud syndicate could distract from efforts to crack down on people who use tax havens, including those named in the Panama Papers.

    Last week’s budget included anti-tax avoidance measures to try to ensure multinational companies pay their fair share of tax, which the Turnbull government claims will net $4bn more tax next financial year.

    Labor have responded by today unveiling a series of other measures to combat tax avoidance, such as forcing companies to declare where they pay tax and providing greater incentives for whistleblowers.

    Mr Shorten said yesterday’s arrest of Australian Taxation Office Deputy Commissioner Michael Cranston and nine others, including two of his children, was “very concerning”, and even more so if it had distracted from other investigations.

    “I don’t know all the facts and I don’t think most of us do know the facts yet, I certainly don’t want to impinge upon people’s right to run their case, either in defence or indeed the prosecution,” Mr Shorten said

    “But if there is any chance that the relentless hunt against people who use tax havens, the multinationals, the individuals in Australia, the Panama Papers, if the tax integrity, if the investigations have been compromised, well this is shocking incompetence.

    “We need to let the police do their job, the matter is before the courts, but I have no doubt that questions of competence will need to be answered by the Government, and if any dodgy Australian, who has been using tax havens to minimise their tax has these investigations unwound against them, well I think that is a terrible outcome.”

    Shadow Assistant Treasurer Andrew Leigh said that while it was good that the ATO had flagged the alleged $165 fraud, the investigation presented a “serious challenge” for the organisation.

    From the Oz. I would say that Whining William is more hopeful that certain ex – merchant bankers may be named in said papers.

  80. Myrddin Seren

    Noting ZK2A’s link to Smithy, I thought I would surf over for his take, if any yet, on Underbelly: ATO.

    Not much on that yet but a whole series of articles on Julie Bishop shovelling money from the public purse to more questionable offshore entities.

    Go have a look, but this sums it up:

    In May 2015 Bill Clinton thought of Julie Bishop as one of the Clinton Foundation’s “closest supporters” – so close and so supportive he invited her to New York for the CF’s annual internal planning retreat.

    Clinton’s personal invitation was delivered through then Ambassador Kim Beazley direct to the Foreign Minister’s office.

    She has walked more taxpayers’ money out the door and in to the Clintons’ back pocket than the Cranstons.

    There is absolutely no way she is hanging around until the next election.

  81. Stimpson J. Cat

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Yet across the gulf of the ALP,
    in a massage parlor called True Thai,
    minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects and torsos vast and cool and clammy and unsympathetic and quivering, regarded him with envious ratlike eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against Shorten.

  82. notafan

    ATO fraud investigation could distract from Panama Papers

    The scales have fallen, the entire thing is a conspiracy to distract us from the ‘Panama Papers’ .

    Set up by the UN/illuminati/vampires a couple of years ago on behalf of the ‘global elite’; if you sniff the air you will even smell pizza.

    The Cat Oracles strike again.

  83. .

    Here, an American Food Forensics Scientist exposes big Pharma mass poisoning of black children and the fraudulent Cancer Industry.

    Jesus Anne. Please shut up.

  84. Tal

    The ATO a hive of scum and villainy now with ethnic toilets

  85. cohenite

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    The biggest fraud in this shithole is Industry Super and its propping up of renewables in which the unions are up to shorten’s breasts.

  86. notafan

    Why do big Pharma need to poison black children when most of them are aborted anyhow?

    I assume he was only talking about African Americans because there seems to be plenty of black children in Africa.

    Worse that watching free to air TV that crap.

  87. Tailgunner

    Yet across the gulf of the ALP,
    in a massage parlor called True Thai,
    minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects and torsos vast and cool and clammy and unsympathetic and quivering, regarded him with envious ratlike eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against Shorten.

    Bravo,Sir. Excellent.
    Such elites in an Albo-style ,True Thai experience joint seems a bit plebian? I’m not buying it…
    I’m thinking more a Turkish/Roman thing. Lots of steam, and towels. And dudes.
    😀

  88. .

    cohenite
    #2384308, posted on May 19, 2017 at 3:06 pm
    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    The biggest fraud in this shithole is Industry Super and its propping up of renewables in which the unions are up to shorten’s breasts.

    YES!

    Industry super are union slush funds. Terrible stuff!

  89. Shelley

    she is outraged given how the ATO harried her, and is mystified at the lack of public anger. So, not sure the bulk of the public is ‘tolerant’ or simply doesn’t give a shit. We will shamble down the Road to Serfdom pressed along by the gormless.

    This ++++

  90. calli

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2384297, posted on May 19, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    You sound just like Richard Burton.

    Yikes! The Undead! All this talk of vampires has woken him!

  91. Calli;

    Still waiting for The Wrath of Gaia to descend in a Biblical scale deluge.

    You too, eh?

  92. .

    One other thing worth noting is that the Dutch are extremely careful with their money. As an example, there is a real dearth of luxury cars in Holland, even cars that here in Australia we might class as now relatively normal such as low end BMWs. Their homes are generally austere, at least from the outside, and they rarely dine out.

    They have this propensity to save their money, strange as it may sound. They also do not look to the government to do things for them. Each individual school for example is run by the parents. There’s a reason that there are no bicycle helmet laws in Holland.

    What?

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/government-spending-to-gdp

    Government spending in Netherlands was last recorded at 43.6 percent of GDP in 2016

    They’re worse than us.

  93. Myrddin Seren

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Myrddin: Shorten’s ‘Look over there – a Goanna !’ is a distraction.

    The public barely gives a crap about Underbelly: ATO.

    Try asking what the ‘Panama Papers’ are at your next social gathering and see how many know.

    The AFP must be within proximity to some people who are very uncomfortable about the attention on defrauding the Commonwealth brought about by the Cranston Crime Family.

    Hence – pull string on the Shorten puppet and it yells ‘Millionaires and Class War’ on command.

  94. Myrddin Seren

    AUDIT THE ATO!

    Cross audit the ATO.

    One of the big audit firms can do the first sweep and then a second firm audits the audit.

    With AFP protection details and secure comms and data storage. All interviews in proper interview rooms with CCTV – no ‘Let’s have a chat over lunch’.

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    The ATO a hive of scum and villainy now with ethnic toilets

    Ah, but is the ATO an ethnic toilet WITH ethnic toilets?
    And why did only white people get caught?
    What does all of this mean?

    Stimpy Pop Quiz
    Which nationalities make the best accountants and why?

    Mine is Australian with Italian bodyhair.

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    AUDIT THE ATO!

    Autist audit the Australian Transsexual Orifice.

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    If that is the case we are stuffed.

    Never trust a HUMAN named Rex.

  98. Tailgunner

    Not much on that yet but a whole series of articles on Julie Bishop shovelling money from the public purse to more questionable offshore entities.

    Swamp dwellers everywhere.
    And people are flying off the Train because Trump isn’t doing everything today,goddammit!
    The immensity of His task is apparent to those with eyes to see!
    Liberal democracy is now finished. A real time Dead Wombat.
    It’s Achilles heel, freedom, is now exposed to the Mongols.
    They’re coming. Too easy.
    On another front, Social Marxism is busy destroying the fabric internally.
    It’s mosques&homo hoedowns.
    Good mix? Lol!
    The politics of the prison yard will rise again.
    Do we need a King of the North, or a charismatic Volks Leader?
    You can only choose one!

  99. .

    Mine is Australian with Italian bodyhair.

    Mine too is Italian Australian. Northern Italian of course. So they’re ethnically German, but speak the lingo and can cook the good grub.

  100. .

    Do we need a King of the North, or a charismatic Volks Leader?
    You can only choose one!

    But that’s not my problem.

  101. Snoopy

    And people are flying off the Train because Trump isn’t doing everything today,goddammit!

    One word. Paris.

    That would send the MSM/DNC into meltdown.

  102. Nick

    Do we need a King of the North, or a charismatic Volks Leader?
    You can only choose one!

    I’m not getting on the volks wagon

  103. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mine too is Italian Australian. Northern Italian of course. So they’re ethnically German, but speak the lingo and can cook the good grub.

    Which ones are the black ones like in True Romance?
    I always get confused.

  104. Snoopy

    Stimpy Pop Quiz
    Which nationalities make the best accountants and why?

    An Australian with a Matchbox car collection.

  105. .

    You’re a cantaloupe, Stimp.

  106. Empire

    Mr Shorten said yesterday’s arrest of Australian Taxation Office Deputy Commissioner Michael Cranston and nine others, including two of his children, was “very concerning”, and even more so if it had distracted from other investigations.

    “I don’t know all the facts and I don’t think most of us do know the facts yet, I certainly don’t want to impinge upon people’s right to run their case, either in defence or indeed the prosecution,” Mr Shorten said

    Translation: the maates are up to their necks in this shit.

  107. Nick

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Maybe George Pell could use the same line.

  108. .

    arrest of Australian Taxation Office Deputy Commissioner Michael Cranston and nine others, including two of his children, was “very concerning”, and even more so if it had distracted from other investigations.

    Ah no. Everything else is a distraction. This is a national crisis. We are ruled by organised crime factions.

  109. incoherent rambler

    AUDIT THE ATO!

    Immediately. Before the roaches have time to scurry into hiding.

    Start with: head count versus number of people on the payroll

  110. Fisky

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Whenever the ALP declare something to be a “distraction”, it’s because that thing is likely to blow the lid of a massive scandal involving the ALP.

  111. Tailgunner

    I’m not getting on the volks wagon

    Hahaha!
    This time we’ll do Nationalism DIFFERENTLY, Nick!
    But we’re still dividing our broken system into Gau’s for old times sake. Golden Pheasants eat well in our New World Order! Join us?!

  112. Tailgunner

    You’re a cantaloupe, Stimp.

    Is that racist??

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    You’re a cantaloupe, Stimp.

    In all seriousness explain that to me because I really don’t understand.
    Isn’t that a rockmelon?
    I like rockmelons.

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hence – pull string on the Shorten puppet and it yells ‘Millionaires and Class War’ on command.

    Wins the Internet for the day! What terrifies me is that he will be the next Prime Minister of Australia!

  115. incoherent rambler

    Translation: the maates are up to their necks in this shit.

    It is unlikely.
    The AFP would not be investigating, if that were the case.

  116. Mitch M.

    Once upon a time, autism referred to a tiny minority of people with very severe communication difficulties. Now, the definition encompasses a lot of behaviours which are well within the normal range, as BoN pointed out. Such people might never win the popularity prize at school or work, but could have satisfying lives and careers in fields such as research, statistics, applied science, and a whole host of lower status jobs that require concentration and attention to detail.
    The ever growing autism industry is just one of the many lumps of lead in the taxpayer funded saddlebags of the NDIS.

    The change in diagnosis from DSM 3 R(1987) and DSM 4(1994) hugely broadened the definition making comparisons with previous decades problematic. Autism wasn’t even in the DSM until 1980. Prior to 1970 the diagnosis of “childhood schizophrenia” was made, and idea so ridiculous it makes me wonder who comes up with this crap. Asperger’s wasn’t even formally recognised until 1994.

    Studies have found strong correlations between the fall in PDD-NOS and the rise in ASD diagnoses. The data is a mess … again. There probably has been a slight increase in the prevalence rate but whether or not that reflects anything significant is another matter. BTW, if mercury were a cause ASD would have been everywhere prior WW1 because they even put it in teething powders!

    There are some biomarkers emerging. In particular a connectome of global hypo connectivity and regional hyper connectivity. Gut issues are very prominent, as are sensory hypersensitivity(especially to specific sounds), reduced GABA function(inhibitory) and altered immune status with some studies highlighting increased inflammatory status in the CNS; and CNS autoimmunity issues appear. Even more weirdly there is something odd going on with folate metabolism which hints at methylation issues. Regarding the etiology in both humans and animal studies maternal inflammation during pregnancy\traumatic birth are huge risk factors. The genetics is a mess, same old story: we found a gene, we found another gene … .

    All very confusing.

  117. Tailgunner

    But that’s not my problem.

    Dot and the libertarians are fortifying Walgett as we speak.

  118. Empire

    Which ones are the black ones like in True Romance?
    I always get confused.

    Le melanzane (the eggplants) hail from the south. Mie scuse terrone.

  119. Government spending in Netherlands was last recorded at 43.6 percent of GDP in 2016

    They’re worse than us.

    Dot,

    I was referring to the Dutch people, not the government.

  120. Tailgunner

    Whenever the ALP declare something to be a “distraction”, it’s because that thing is likely to blow the lid of a massive scandal involving the ALP.

    Scheeise,Fisky!
    Good get. I’ll put my new,Trump-inspired Wait One Week program onto it.
    Let’s watch.

  121. notafan

    Now which audit firm do you think should audit the ATO

    KPMG?

    Or one of the other ‘global elite’ firms?

  122. incoherent rambler

    We are ruled by organised crime factions.

    Hmmm. So the current batch of newsworthies had gone rogue and were overdue on their CFMEU payments?

  123. Stimpson J. Cat

    All very confusing.

    Mitch can stay because he has been paying attention.
    The rest of you Normie’s lift your game.

  124. Tailgunner

    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 ✔@JackPosobiec
    Trump Wants to Reinstate Michael Flynn http:/ rawstory.com/2017/05/trump-is- …
    12:22 PM – 19 May 2017

    Praise Kek!

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Stimpy Pop Quiz
    Which nationalities make the best accountants and why?

    Mine’s Australian enough, but he hates the Australian Tax Office almost as much as I do, and has Kerry Packer’s immortal quote about tax “I pay what I’m required to, not a penny more, not a penny less” mounted on his office wall…

  126. Tailgunner

    And Based Corey Lewandowski is BAAAACK as well!
    #MAGA

  127. Myrddin Seren

    dot

    Ah no. Everything else is a distraction. This is a national crisis. We are ruled by organised crime factions.

    I am serious. You have a direct line to the LDP.

    Leyonhjelm and any other independents he can rally need to stand up on the floor and get on committees and start asking hard questions. Safety in numbers.

    If DL finds a bullet in an envelope in his Parliament House mail box – he can send you a safe word text, and you can tip us that it is game over and drop the subject before the next Cat get together is held on a boat heading to sea with multiple buckets of wet cement on board.

  128. Des Deskperson

    Trolling back through the files of the SMH and the Guardian and it seem that Michael Cranston was the go-to guy for the ‘progressive’ media for stories about rich people evading tax and generally ripping off the tax system.

    They seem to like him. He comes as the same sort of ‘new’ bureaucrat as Ken Henry, thoughtful but purposeful, well groomed, well dressed, photogenic, into ‘fairness’ and he seems to have undertaken his duties with despatch.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    Praise Kek!

    44DD Chess confirmed!

  130. Delta A

    Mitch M.

    #2384354, posted on May 19, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    Also, anomalies in serotonin levels.

  131. Tailgunner

    This article from the Anonymous Conservative is funny as hell.

    If you look at any thread about Trump, Islam or immigration on a Chinese social media platform these days, it’s impossible to avoid encountering the term baizuo, or literally, the ‘white left’. It first emerged about two years ago, and yet has quickly become one of the most popular derogatory descriptions for Chinese netizens to discredit their opponents in online debates.

    So what does ‘white left’ mean in the Chinese context, and what’s behind the rise of its (negative) popularity? It might not be an easy task to define the term, for as a social media buzzword and very often an instrument for ad hominem attack, it could mean different things for different people. A thread on “why well-educated elites in the west are seen as naïve “white left” in China” on Zhihu, a question-and-answer website said to have a high percentage of active users who are professionals and intellectuals, might serve as a starting point.

    The question has received more than 400 answers from Zhihu users, which include some of the most representative perceptions of the ‘white left’. Although the emphasis varies, baizuo is used generally to describe those who “only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment” and “have no sense of real problems in the real world”; they are hypocritical humanitarians who advocate for peace and equality only to “satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority”; they are “obsessed with political correctness” to the extent that they “tolerate backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism”; they believe in the welfare state that “benefits only the idle and the free riders”; they are the “ignorant and arrogant westerners” who “pity the rest of the world and think they are saviours”…

    The term first became influential amidst the European refugee crisis, and Angela Merkel was the first western politician to be labelled as a baizuo for her open-door refugee policy. Hungary, on the other hand, was praised by Chinese netizens for its hard line on refugees, if not for its authoritarian leader. Around the same time another derogatory name that was often used alongside baizuo was shengmu (圣母) – literally the ‘holy mother’ – which according to its users refers to those who are ‘overemotional’, ‘hypocritical’ and ‘have too much empathy’. The criticisms of baizuo and shengmu soon became an online smear campaign targeted at not only public figures such as J. K. Rowling and Emma Watson, but also volunteers, social workers and all other ordinary citizens, whether in Europe or China, who express any sympathy with international refugees…

    The anti-baizuo discourse in Chinese social media gained stronger momentum during the US presidential election campaign. If criticisms of the ‘white left’ in the context of the refugee crisis were mainly about disapproval of ‘moralist humanitarianism’ mixed with Islamophobia, they became politically more elaborate as Chinese critics of the ‘white left’ discovered Donald J. Trump, whom they both identify with and take inspirations from… Trump was taken as the champion of everything the ‘white left’ were against, and baizuo critics naturally became his enthusiastic supporters.

    It is funny. Donald Trump is a threat to Chinese hegemony. He is not somebody the Chinese can push around. But notice how K-strategists recognize each other, and respect each other innately, even across national boundaries.

    Pragmatism with an emphasis on self-responsibility seems to be the ideology of our post-ideological times. It is, in UK prime minister Theresa May’s words, ‘living within our means’. This is combined with a general indifference towards race issues, or even worth, with certain social Darwinist beliefs that some races are superior to others, leading many mainland Chinese netizens to dismiss struggles against structural discriminations as naïve, pretentious or demanding undeserved privileges.

    Everyone recognizes that something is changing. It is K-selection in the air, but for now only a few are in the know.

    This ridicule is devastating to leftist psychologies. You can see it in the article, which tries to argue that it is ridiculous, and may be a government sponsored program to deceive everyone. Surely lots of people cannot be laughing at the leftists.

    For leftists to see an out-group, making fun of them in a way that will make their in-group view them as inferior is a great amygdala trigger. They are designed to appease the out-group to gain favor, while maintaining their assumed superiority among their in-group. They are not designed to be ridiculed by outsiders, in such a way that will make their own view them as inferior too.

    This needs to be promoted throughout the entire alt-right, and we should begin disparaging leftists by saying, “as the Chinese call them, the White Left.”

    This would also indicate that r/K may have a fertile ground in the K-selected East, if only we can get it translated and seeded there.

    Clearly I will have to look into that.

    Spread r/K Theory, because Confucius say Reftists not Light

    Of course, it’s the RVF again!

  132. Nick

    Interesting that Shorten is doing the old ‘nothing to see here folks’ when it’s a serious event that has occurred during the Liberals’ time in office and the fact that mileage wise, the electorate hates the ATO.

    Something smells.

  133. Tom

    “Wussians” is the coverup. Obama needs the Wussians thing to justify spying on every potential Republican candidate for Prez, since otherwise he will have misrepresented to the FISA judge. And potentially committed wire fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and criminal breach of privacy. Without making the “Wussians” excuse stick he will be going to jail for a very long time.

    Eureka, Bruce of Newk at 11.01am! Someone has finally explained the reason the DNC invented the Wussian dementia and why they can’t afford to let it go: Obama’s treasonous misconduct.

    He’ll be lucky to stay out of gaol. This is the DNC’s fight for survival.

  134. Nota,

    The moral seems to be, buy a second hand car.

  135. Libby Zee

    Some words on the ATO ‘distraction’ from a prominent ALP leader:

    The arrest of Adam Cranston over an alleged $165 million tax fraud could have serious consequences for the Australian Taxation Office and even the investigation into the Panama Papers, Senator Nick Xenophon says.

  136. test pattern

    These Catholic fuckers just will not learn. May 7 was their World Day of Prayer (ie superstition] for Vocations. The young priest who said Mass at St Mary’s Cathedral in Perth told the congregation to pray for more vocations in Perth because he was overworked. He told them to start grooming young boys from an early age, the younger the better, to become priests, using every opportunity to direct them towards a vocation. He complained that Perth vocations were so few they would be able to produce just one new priest in the next seven years. Gee I wonder why. They have learned nothing and they will not change. This is a war. They must be compelled to leave young boys alone or be destroyed.

  137. Myrddin Seren

    Translation: the maates are up to their necks in this shit.

    It is unlikely.
    The AFP would not be investigating, if that were the case.

    Can’t prove it, but I suspect the AFP stumbled on to the Cranston Crime Family chasing something else – and then the links revealed a curiously large amount of inexplicable wealth. Which then went interagency and too hard to wallpaper over.

    Somebody involved was shopping for things that might get the AFP’s attention – especially if they were as obvious about this everything else.

    Shorthen’s ‘Look over there – a Goanna !‘ is a ‘tell’.

  138. Tailgunner

    Testy – were you interviewed by the Little Children crew over that walk-on-the-pier incident?
    Was the questionnaire multiple choice?

  139. Tailgunner

    The Gin was your sister-in-law,right?
    [email protected]#king Game of Thrones shit,man…
    Did you at least give her a blanket?

  140. Nick

    A vocation of service to others you turd.

  141. OneWorldGovernment

    notafan
    #2384364, posted on May 19, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Now which audit firm do you think should audit the ATO

    I have already said we need ‘Citizen Audits’ and I have offered to audit the ATO, Treasury, Prime Ministers Office and Defence.

    Another cat has offered to Audit DFAT.

    Nothing wrong with utilising accounting/audit firms but I am not talking about ‘financial audits’ but rather what used to be known as ‘Internal Control’ Audits.

    And with a ‘Citizen Audit’ I would direct and review all audit work.

  142. Testy – were you interviewed by the Little Children crew over that walk-on-the-pier incident?
    Was the questionnaire multiple choice?

    He’s just upset because he was the only one at school not to get molested.

  143. Diogenes

    Now which audit firm do you think should audit the ATO

    KPMG?

    Or one of the other ‘global elite’ firms?

    Any 6 suburban accountants for each state, just like the senate, selected at random from the phonebook.

  144. JC

    Well said.

    Daily Reminder: Maxine Waters is a Fucking Moron

    If you’ve ever wondered why I voted for Trump or was unable to support the psychopathic beta male democratic party, it is Maxine Waters. She represents everything what’s wrong with society. She lives in a $4 million mansion, leading a legacy of unbelievable unchecked scandal — typical of Californian politics, beset with an IQ of a primate.

    Here she is, in all of her stupendous grandeur, telling a Morning Joe shill that Putin, in fact, invented the term ‘lock her up’ for Trump — because the english language is, obviously, is a communicative field of expertise for the NON-ENGLISH speaking Russian President.

    In a perfect world, people like this would be wiped clean from the earth, protecting future generations from her stupidity and abject malfeasance. But in the latter stages of Empire America, this fucking moron, Ms. Waters, reigns supreme.

    Get a load of this two legged creature that voters keep electing to represent them.

  145. incoherent rambler

    Senator Nick Xenophon says.

    It’s worse than we thought.

  146. notafan

    Putin is clearly vampire-in-chief with those kind of powers.

  147. Nick

    I once employed a Financial Officer that my secretary and I nicknamed ‘the bee’. He would stay in his hive and busily work and hated speaking to people. Coming from an audit background, he was good and did exactly as he was employed to do. How the ladies in particular, mocked the bee, telling me to get rid of him. When he left eventually of his own accord, the penny dropped when his replacement, a nut bag, made their lives hell.

  148. Diogenes

    Now which audit firm do you think should audit the ATO

    KPMG?

    Or one of the other ‘global elite’ firms?

    Any 6 suburban accountants for each state, just like the senate, selected at random from the phonebook.

    As an aside, reading that abc story , FMD Sen Cameron is a plonker. Its because of the ALP laws and regulations that companies like Plutus exist, making it too hard for individual contractors, and contracting firms find handling payroll for non employees so complicated

  149. Lysander

    Test pattern: Seems like the priest got it wrong.

    Ordinations to priesthood in Perth are higher than they’ve been in about 35 years.

  150. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Shorten: ATO fraud a distraction

    Whenever the ALP declare something to be a “distraction”, it’s because that thing is likely to blow the lid of a massive scandal involving the ALP.

    I would bet goodly money that the the skimmed funds were being used to procure kiddies for leftist power players.

    It’s the Golden Rule: Leftism is all about fucking kids.

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    The young priest who said Mass at St Mary’s Cathedral in Perth told the congregation to pray for more vocations in Perth because he was overworked.

    Why were you there in the first place and not the park?

  152. notafan

    Lysander

    Why was Test Pattern there in the first place?

    It’s a troll, the worst kind, who claims to have witnessed abuse and done nothing about it, ever.

  153. Snoopy

    Maxine Waters is a Fucking Moron

    Well done, JC. You’ve discovered where from Monty lifts, word for word, his posts.

  154. Lysander

    Thanks Nota; I won’t feed the trolls.

  155. Fat Tony

    MitchM – I posted below at 9.12 this morning. You may have not seen it.

    Mitch M.
    #2383770, posted on May 19, 2017 at 1:30 am

    I have headaches that leave me curled up in the bed. They come and go but I’ve never found a pattern.

    I used to get similar headaches – would last for a day or two. Painkillers didn’t do too much.

    Someone suggested artificial Vitamin C may be the culprit. I have avoided anything with “added Vitamin C” for the last 20+ years and haven’t had any problems.

    It requires reading the ingredients label very carefully – it is #300 +

    I can eat 6+ oranges and have no problems – it’s only the synthesised Vit C that causes problems,
    Vit C is used as a preservative in food and an embittering agent for some wine & beer.

    I only drink German beer or beer that I have had without problems (Crown lager is ok) – and never get a hangover.

    So try and get the artificial Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) out of your diet, and the headaches may go away.

  156. Diogenes

    I’m pretty sure the employee gets the credit regardless of whether the money is paid. I assume that the employing entity ultimately has the liability for the shortfall.

    Nope, unless things have changed in the last 5 yeats. The taxpayer is always on the hook . One of Mrs Ds former employers went belly up, ironically bankrupted by the ATO. Despite payslips showing tax withheld and a group certificate showing same, Mrs D was presented with a bill for shortfall in what was actually paid vs was group certificate said. As it was not her fault we were able to get a payment plan, rather than paying the full whack at once

  157. JC

    Well done, JC. You’ve discovered where from Monty lifts, word for word, his posts.

    Everyone knows that, Snoopy. Everyone knows Monst gets his morning talking points from Maxine Waters’ website.
    And he has no shame whatsoever. He even quotes her as a respectable source.

  158. Mitch M.

    It’s a troll, the worst kind, who claims to have witnessed abuse and done nothing about it, ever.

    For a short time I was assisting at a facility for children under the care of the State. One of the children there told me how Mr. X was acting rather suspiciously. Then another person, who wasn’t at that facility, told me he had heard rumours and seen the behavior outside that facility. So I contacted my brother who knew a detective. Investigations began but not because of my intervention apparently others were speaking up. I don’t know what happened. The cover of Mr. X was extraordinary. A committed church goer(not Catholic), immaculate grooming and behavior, always with a smile on his face and oh so ready to help the children … . He might have been safer if they locked him because when the word got out there were people who were ready to have their particular way with him. Kiddy fiddlers, especially those in positions of trust, should be transported to the soon empty Manus Island and left there to fend for themselves.

  159. Mitch M.

    Someone suggested artificial Vitamin C may be the culprit. I have avoided anything with “added Vitamin C” for the last 20+ years and haven’t had any problems.

    I was taking vitamin C supplements and but decided to return to oranges. That’s a good hint. Thanks Tony.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    criky!

    Wow, that is completely insanely insane.
    All those pollies in their Porsches being slugged a tax of €15,000 per year to emit CO2?
    Alas they would not be paying it, it’d be the ordinary people.

    Europe has gone off the deep end, no wonder the Poms are getting out.

  161. notafan

    Bankruptcy might be different Diogenes

    I tried to find some legislation but it was too hard.

  162. test pattern

    #JulieLeaks

    As promised 2017 is the year of putting my best accessory forward. Peter Dutton is my new best accessory and I have put him forward as my new roving Minister for Human Rights with my express instructions to form a voting blok of human rights respecting nations Australia PNG and Nauru to ensure we gain a seat on the UN Human Rights Council. I have tasked him to lobby Japan for their vote in exchange for us dropping our opposition to whaling. Here I am with my secret weapon, my newest accessory – a kangaroo dildo. Not only am I putting my best accessory forward but I am prepared to put it in and out too.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAJMSQfUAAAkxkx.jpg:large

  163. Lysander

    Anyone got a workable link to MWD? My linky not working…

    Woof!

  164. Leigh Lowe

    Salvatore at the Pub
    #2384274, posted on May 19, 2017 at 2:22 pm
    Who is liable for the shortfall?

    The Employer

    Well, yes.
    It was kind of a rhetorical question really.
    The situation may change if the employers challenge any request for payment on the grounds the ATO internal controls were shoddy or that an ATO officer was party to a fraud.
    But they can’t simply wipe the slate clean because that sets up a massive opportunity for people to deliberately engage sham payroll bureaus which remit nothing to the ATO and the enployer and the bureau divvy up the proceeds.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, it’s a one-off not per year.

    But I love this bit:

    Has the RDW not determined the CO2 emission of your car? Then the CO2 emission will be set at 507 g/km for a petrol car or 356 grams/km for a diesel car, unless you can establish the CO2 emission in the method set out here below.

    That equates to a tax of (507-168)*475+13465 = €174,490

    So if the Dutch car bureaucrats won’t classify your car, or you bring a car into the country without a classification, they’ll tax you €174,490 because of da ebil CO2. Far out, man.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    No wonder the Dutch like bicycles.

  167. .

    Nick
    #2384400, posted on May 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm
    I once employed a Financial Officer that my secretary and I nicknamed ‘the bee’. He would stay in his hive and busily work and hated speaking to people. Coming from an audit background, he was good and did exactly as he was employed to do. How the ladies in particular, mocked the bee, telling me to get rid of him. When he left eventually of his own accord, the penny dropped when his replacement, a nut bag, made their lives hell.

    Red pill knowledge!

  168. OneWorldGovernment

    In the interests of equality I would like to propose that the current PM of Australia be thrown out on his ear and be replaced by Rowan Ramsey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_Ramsey

    Of all the Australian states South Australia has never had a home grown PM.

    Here is a man that believes in nuclear. And farming.

    And he comes from Kimba, South Australia which is home to “The Big Galah”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba,_South_Australia

  169. notafan

    BoN

    yes but remember isn’t the only tax, that will be in addition to VAT and regular car taxes.

    The Netherlands has a long way to go to small government.

    I don’t know the full workings but peops we knew in Denmark got their BMW 4wd as a two seater commercial because the taxes were much lower, not that it made much difference in the end, still got stolen by a profession gang in black masks and was out of Denmark in about three hours.

    Home invasions might be a novelty here…

  170. test pattern

    Trump sends Toby Keith to Saudi to spruik alcohol sales

    ‘You know justice is the one thing you should always find
    You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
    When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
    And we’ll all meet back at the local saloon
    And we’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
    Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
    Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses’

  171. NDIS being used for gardeners.

    He said he recently spoke to an NDIS case manager who admitted to approving unworthy clients because she was trying to build a client base in her new business…

    “The system is getting milked pretty badly.”…

    I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that the NDIS will bankrupt Australia.

  172. Snoopy

    This is regarded as ‘analysis‘ by their ABC.

    Luce points out the world’s wealthiest 1,426 individuals have a combined worth twice the size of the British economy and equal to the combined assets of the 250 million least wealthy Americans.

    That’s where the growth has gone.

  173. Who is liable for the shortfall?
    The Employer

    Maybe, but in this case the “employer” can, in fact, demonstrate that the money was paid to Plutus. Plutus, in turn has now gone belly up, after distributing some, but not all, of the funds to second-tier companies, to pay the various creditors. All very messy legally.

    That being the case I wouldn’t be half surprised if the ATO don’t go the employees initially for the shortfall, regardless of the legality of it all. Most will just pay and hope it all gets sorted eventually.

    Centrelink work the same way. Welfare recipients are required to declare earnings at the time they are earned, even if they haven’t been actually paid. Their dole is then reduced accordingly. If the employer never gets around to paying then that’s just stiff shyte. Centrelink advice to the out of pocket beneficiary is to sue the employer.

  174. notafan

    So parents of children with autism needed the taxpayer to mow their lawns, is that what I am reading?

    I initially thought they were signing up to get their children jobs as lawn mowers.

    A couple of the local gents with intellectual disabilities work in the lawn-mowing industry.

  175. .

    Everyone knows Monst gets his morning talking points from Maxine Waters’ website.
    And he has no shame whatsoever. He even quotes her as a respectable source.

    Well, he oughtta know. Comey has NO credibility!

  176. Myrddin Seren

    He said he recently spoke to an NDIS case manager who admitted to approving unworthy clients because she was trying to build a client base in her new business

    Can’t see how letting someone whose income is dependent on ever-more ‘disabled’ clients approve who and who is not disabled could possibly go wrong. ( that was /sarc )

    Gillard has destroyed us.

  177. .

    notafan
    #2384439, posted on May 19, 2017 at 5:00 pm
    So parents of children with autism needed the taxpayer to mow their lawns, is that what I am reading?

    I tell you verily, the modern “autism” pandemic is a yuuuge scamola.

  178. Mark from Melbourne

    Woof!

    Not wishing to repeat myself, but the Sydney Institute web site makeover is the least competently done piece of work (bar Obamacare 1.0) I think I have ever seen.

  179. Lysander

    Mark.

    +1

    They “Bolt’d” the Sydney Inst. website!

  180. Myrddin Seren

    nota

    So parents of children with autism needed the taxpayer to mow their lawns, is that what I am reading?

    No.

    We will be paying for gardening, house cleaning, meals-on-wheels and, likely, home delivered weed so these f**kwits can go on destroying the last vestiges of their brain cells with weed, ice and goon.

    I vividly recall the f**kwit called Darren ( scroll down – massive p**shead ) that he literally had a doctor’s certificate to attest that he was too dumb to work.

    Oh – and so their NDIS case managers and the bureaucrats doling out the money can all get fat and rich. A Therese Rein of NDIS case management entrepreneurship will presumably appear from the spousal ranks of the ALP leadership team at any moment.

    As Tinta has attested regularly, the really needy and their families will be bothersome to the case managers and can expect to be shuffled to the bottom of the pile.

  181. Top Ender

    Something to get male Cats off to a good start for the weekend:

  182. Senile Old Guy

    Can’t see how letting someone whose income is dependent on ever-more ‘disabled’ clients approve who and who is not disabled could possibly go wrong. ( that was /sarc )

    Gillard has destroyed us.

    Abbott and Turnbull endorsed and enabled it. Put the blame where it belongs: the two main players, the Greens and sundry independent senators.

  183. Rabz

    Jabba Oakes – “a baizuo of girth”.

    Clam Ford – “a shengmu of girth”.

  184. Des Deskperson

    According to Ten news – for what it is worth – two of the ATO employees suspended along with Cranston were Assistant Commissioners – that’s SES Band 1 , salary package about $240,000.

    As Paul Hogan’s tax lawyer said in an interview, ‘the fish is rotting from the head’.

  185. Top Ender

    I apologise for my previous post. It was very wrong of me.

    I should have provided a trigger warning for male Cats with blood pressure problems.

    I do however have a Safe Space Cell (Patent Pending) I am willing to share if you bring Scotch, wine or pizza.

  186. Mark from Melbourne

    I do however have a Safe Space Cell (Patent Pending) I am willing to share if you bring Scotch, wine or pizza.

    srr will be after you.

  187. Myrddin Seren

    I do however have a Safe Space Cell (Patent Pending) I am willing to share if you bring Scotch, wine or pizza.

    Illuminati Confirmed !!! J’accuse !

  188. notafan

    Cranston apparently borrowed his son’s cars.

    He obviously though it was a ‘legit’ tax avoidance scheme that could be sorted by a ‘resolution’ , as for his career, his ethics were as long as his arms.

    they can all rot.

    Nice to see.


    The plot thickens

  189. Leigh Lowe

    As I predicted when NDIS was first announced, this us how it will play out …
    (1) Instead of 400,000 NDIS “clients” notbing will stop the current 850,000 DSP pensioners all getting on the NDIS (and then some).
    (2) There will be very little in the way of rehab or help for the genuine cases. The vast majority will go in mowing lawns, cleaning up accumulated pizza boxes, washing dishes abd clothes and running shopping errands for indolent drug-fucked “marginalised yoof”.
    (3) All of the above will be underpinned by the mother of all Cert IV training behemoths and union controlled certification.
    We.Are.Fucked.

  190. notafan

    Mr Trumble Mr Trumble

    you need to drastically limit the types of services NDIS provide, and none of them should be for free.

  191. thefrolickingmole

    Hahahahahahahhahaaaaa!!!

    Oh wait, thats our money…

    People were wondering which employers would fail to pick the scam of the ATO bandits.

    Plutus ATO fraud probe: wages at up to nine government agencies affected
    Labor senator Doug Cameron contacted by affected contractors working for departments of foreign affairs, social services, defence and more

    As many as nine government agencies may be involved with the payroll company at the centre of a $165m tax fraud investigation, Labor senator Doug Cameron has said.

    Cameron said on Friday he had been contacted by contractors working for eight federal and state government departments, the ABC and private companies such as Telstra and Fujitsu, who said their pay had been affected by the scandal.

    He said contractors working for the departments of immigration, foreign affairs, social services, defence and industry, as well as the NDIS and ABC, had all been affected.

    Transport NSW and the NSW Department of Justice have also been hit, as have Telstra, Fujitsu Australia, FinXL and Sirius Technologies, he said.

    “I’m very concerned that there are contractors who have done the right thing, who’ve carried out their functions for the Commonwealth, and there seems to be problems about getting payments,” he told Guardian Australia.

    Government shafting contractors, I sense a Maaaates moment coming up soon..

  192. Caveman

    I should have provided a trigger warning for male Cats with blood pressure problems.

    Thats ok I keep a cold spoon in the fridge for just that moment.

  193. notafan

    Walgreen cctv of the car attack in Times Square, sickening and too easy.

    This one appears to be an ‘end of the world’ freak.


    footage here

  194. Tailgunner

    Stimpson&Fisky have succeeded in turning the Cat into an autism forum.
    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  195. egg_

    Teh Dumb absolutely being schooled by Rebecca Weisser on the ‘construct’ of alleged ‘White male privilege’.

    Touché.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    Luce points out the world’s wealthiest 1,426 individuals have a combined worth twice the size of the British economy

    How odd that Stan Grant forgets to mention most of the Americans are lefties. Many of the rest are communist Chinese or are Indians. And some are ethnic wymminses like Hugo Chavez’s daughter.

    Could it be that socialism causes such inequality? Perish the thought.

    You’d’ve thought his service with CNN in Pakistan would have educated him into the real world.
    Doesn’t seem to’ve.

  197. Anthony

    Lysander
    #2384447, posted on May 19, 2017 at 5:07 pm
    Mark.

    +1

    They “Bolt’d” the Sydney Inst. website!

    I think we will be able to access MWD site in a few days, after the weekend and we’ve purchased the Weekend Australian. To read Gerard on the Australian
    online today, Google the heading of the article, A question for the new ABC chairman, and click on it in the Google list of offerings.

  198. Tailgunner

    Pizza, like the Catholic Church, will never recover from this.

  199. notafan

    moley

    but it was free!

    I wonder how they explained how that worked, if it is true

    I bet there was a sales pitch that included some sort of tax minimisation as a lot of these entities sound like they were personal services companies which have special tax rules.

  200. .

    Walgreen cctv of the car attack

    God, I thought that was Walgett.

  201. egg_

    Uni student first generation Oz chick of Chinese origin on the panel complains that people assume she was born OS. Astounding lack of self awareness as she has a thicker accent than many Chinese immigrants with ESL – she probably speaks the foreign tongue 100% at home to her immigrant parents.

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    This one appears to be an ‘end of the world’ freak.

    Nota – NYP suggests he was attempting suicide-by-cop. He certainly was off the planet at the time.

    Times Square maniac was allegedly attempting suicide-by-cop

    A Navy washout on a suicide mission plowed his car through three blocks of sidewalk pedestrian traffic in Times Square on Thursday — killing a teenage tourist and injuring 22 others.

    “You were supposed to shoot me! I wanted to kill them,” Richard Rojas, 26, told police after his bloody rampage, according to sources.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australia’s top spy chief, Duncan Lewis, has warned of an “ongoing trickle” of foreign fighters returning home with their children, many of whom will be susceptible to extreme Islamist ideology.

    In a frank assessment of the challenges confronting ASIO, Mr Lewis also said the conflict in Syria and Iraq had “energised” Islamic State members, including in Australia, on an unprecedented scale.

    “These changes to the national and international security environment will have a generational impact,” he told a public hearing of the Independent National Security Legislation Monitor in Canberra yesterday.

    “While we do not expect to see any major exodus of Australians from the conflict region, we anticipate seeing an ongoing trickle of returning foreign fighters and extremist group members.

    “Some will have greatly enhanced capability to undertake terrorist attacks. Any planning to do so may take many years to manifest.

    “We’re likely to see returning Australian families and children … who have been exposed to Islamist groups in Syria or Iraq and will be traumatised by their experiences.

    “Not only will many of these ­individuals experience difficulty reintegrating into Australian ­society, many will be vulnerable to Islamist extremist ideology.” Defending Australia’s tough counter-terrorism and national security legislation, Mr Lewis joined with the Australian Federal Police and Attorney-General’s Department in cautioning against any reduction in powers.

    AFP deputy commissioner Michael Phelan revealed the AFP had about 70 joint counter-terrorism investigations “on foot” and said control orders — designed to prevent a terrorist attack — were considered in all of them, despite only four being issued. “If the control order legislation was repealed under the sunset clause, we are removing a very significant tool for law enforcement … to thwart ­potential plots,” he said.

    From the Oz. Didn’t Lord Waffles tell us they would be subject to the maximum penalties the law provided for? Who’s his counter terrorist advisor, Yasmin Able – Magpie?

  204. Fisky

    There is going to be massive potential growth in the NDIS, get a load of this –

    Victoria wanted to keep its definition of “developmental delay” for children, which is a broad-ranging concept that captures hundreds of thousands of children who miss a normal ­developmental milestone while growing up.

    South Australia used a specific condition of “global developmental delay”, which is diagnosed by pediatricians when children fail to meet two or more developmental milestones in gross motor skills, speech, intellectual understanding and socialisation.

    The difference in the two definitions, conservatively, is in the tens of thousands of children.

    Despite warnings from the SA government that the scheme would be swamped, Victoria ­insisted that no children then ­receiving support would miss out and said it would not sign unless its demands were met. They were. In the words of one senior former Gillard staffer: “So we gave them Geelong and whatnot to get them across the line.”

    It’s difficult to see what the limits to this are. You could set up a football club for kids diagnosed as having “developmental delay” (which could mean practically anything) and make a fortune through the NDIS. It’s conceivable that the entire volunteer sector in Australia will become appendages of the NDIS.

    This is going to turn into a monster bureaucracy costing tens of billions per year – $20 billion is extremely optimistic – regulating every area of social life.

  205. Mark from Melbourne

    I think we will be able to access MWD site in a few days, after the weekend and we’ve purchased the Weekend Australian.

    No, Anthony. Much as I wish that were the moustache-twirling case. This week’s offering is there, it is just not very easy to guess… and it is impossible to link to the new edition, as the URL changes every week. More than that, the whole site is borderline rubbish… and hasn’t materially changed since it went live a few weeks ago.

    For example, the link to the “current issue” of MWDon the archive page still point to the issue which was current when it went live a month ago.

    Gerard has been rightly and royally ripped off.

  206. Tailgunner

    God, I thought that was Walgett.
    Lol! Snap,dot!
    I had to read it twice myself 🙂

  207. .

    Bloody hell. They got through with ‘tards. That is how the State became all powerful. What monster says “NO!” to children and ‘tards?

    20 bn AUD per year? I think that is far too low.

    A kid might miss a few milestones and exceed others.

    Potentially, everyone born after 1998 is under the aegis of the NDIS over the whole life.

  208. Gab

    Gawd you people are relentless! That’s over 500 comments I have to catch up on for today!!!

  209. Baldrick

    Your taxes at work:

    Julia Baird ✔ @bairdjulia
    COMING UP ON #THEDRUM: We talk to the head of the student union of Melbourne University about how she she’s tackling white male privilege..
    5:29pm · 19 May 2017

  210. Rev. Archibald

    Doesn’t that “white male privelege” crap fall foul of 18c?

  211. Rev. Archibald

    After all, this isn’t the states.
    You don’t have unfettered free speech here, toots.
    If people find your speech offensive on the grounds of race your gorrrrn.

  212. Roger

    Uni student first generation Oz chick of Chinese origin on the panel complains that people assume she was born OS. Astounding lack of self awareness as she has a thicker accent than many Chinese immigrants with ESL – she probably speaks the foreign tongue 100% at home to her immigrant parents.

    You beat me to it egg_.

    Oh, the humanity! My tutor assumes I was raised in China!

    [Not just a uni student, though, iirc sh’e s the president of the student union!]

  213. Baldrick

    I have full confidence in the government delivering on time and on budget a $50 billion submarine deal-

    Propulsion problems on two new warships which cost taxpayers $3 billion could be the consequence of fundamental design flaws, navy chiefs have revealed, as they confirmed at least one of the vessels will miss major drills with the US next month.
    One of the two ships, the HMAS Adelaide, has been dry-docked at Garden Island in Sydney Harbour so naval engineers and the manufacturers can open up the propeller system and examine whether the problems are as simple as parts being poorly fitted or something deeper.

    sarc off/

  214. Roger

    she’s

    Whether born here or China wasn’t made clear, but given her accent I think Chinese is certainly her mother tongue…not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it may explain why people assume she was raised there.

  215. Makka

    This is going to turn into a monster bureaucracy costing tens of billions per year – $20 billion is extremely optimistic – regulating every area of social life.

    Wait until we see those with mental conditions and phobias etc joining the ranks of the disabled. Half the nation will be on the NDIS roll.

  216. Mitch M.

    This is going to turn into a monster bureaucracy costing tens of billions per year – $20 billion is extremely optimistic – regulating every area of social life.

    Nailed it. The NDIS department is not a service delivery platform it is the administration of service delivery. Waste of money. That could easily be handled through the Department of Human Services.

    This did happen at an NDIS selection exercise … . They flew existing NDIS staff in from all across Australia for a selection process that required the occupation of many rooms at a rather expensive hotel where those staff were staying. They hired a firm for the psychometric testing and the whole process lasted a full week. I was told that the same process occurred in every State. NDIS is a show pony department, even back then, November last year or thereabouts, they felt entitled to treat their staff to national flights and expensive accommodation just for a selection exercise.

    I have no problem with services for the disabled but the NDIS department itself is just another junket for public servants who will be paid very well and never provide service to the disabled, the latter being done by other entities.

  217. Nick

    It’s time for men to counte this sort of rubbish. I’m not a fan of the moronic ‘yeah the boys/don’t dog the fellas’ subculture, but gee, I’m almost seeing it as a form of resistance.

  218. Makka

    Propulsion problems on two new warships which cost taxpayers $3 billion could be the consequence of fundamental design flaws, navy chiefs have revealed, as they confirmed at least one of the vessels will miss major drills with the US next month.

    I said as much weeks ago, when they came up the lubrication BS. Who was on here saying it was just some kind of normal operational/application issue , something like a red warning lights in a car?

    There’s a technical term for this of course; Clusterfark.

  219. Tailgunner

    After all, this isn’t the states.
    You don’t have unfettered free speech here, toots.
    If people find your speech offensive on the grounds of race your gorrrrn.

    The Cat is the asylum of the spirit of Kek.
    We will be shut down at some point.

  220. Nick

    Hang on Balders, wasn’t it a ‘routine/service light on the dashboard’ service ? /sarc.

  221. Makka

    The NDIS will become the biggest Union fee generator in the nations history. That of course is the sole intent of it’s creation.

  222. Tailgunner

    I’m almost seeing it as a form of resistance.

    Everything is Political.
    Learn to love the nasty taste of red pills…
    +1

  223. egg_

    [Not just a uni student, though, iirc sh’e s the president of the student union!]

    Give wymminses a Uni edumacation and thye turn into whiners?

  224. Fisky

    It’s conceivable that whoever is appointed head of the NDIS will become roughly as powerful as the chair of the RBA, so much of the economy is going to be conducted within the scope of the NDIS. Just wait until the unions find a way of forcing closed shops on all providers and thereby creating an additional (massive) revenue stream for the ALP’s campaign coffers.

    We are going to evolve into an effective one-party state through this bureaucracy. Well played, Gillard. Best strategist the ALP have had in a century’s existence.

  225. areff

    They’re thoroughly rooted at Fairfax if TPG gets control — moreso even than now, which is about as rooted as you can get. Would-be buyer tells Senate panel it will continue to let the inmates run the editorial asylum without board guidance or interference.

    Chlamydia Ford for editor! Yeah, comrades.

    In the meantime, when I take brekkie at the local coffee shop, I can guarantee the free copy of the Age will have sat there unread all morning.

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2017/05/19/fairfax-bidder-w…tch-independence/

  226. Dan Dare

    Diogenes
    If the employer deducted the PAYG income tax from the employee and did not remit it to the ATO, the ATO will chase the employer. In your case the ATO could not recover it from the employer and chose to wind it up. They will often do that rather than give the employer a payment plan.
    The employee should not be responsible.
    The decision should have objected to.

  227. Fisky

    The only way to stop the NDIS now is through a property crash and enforced retrenchment by Australia’s creditors. That will have the additional benefit of shutting down the immigration scam as well.

  228. thefrolickingmole

    Oh dear the Gruinaid is so conflicted with this story…

    Philippines president bans smoking in public, with offenders facing jail
    Rodrigo Duterte, a former smoker himself, defies country’s powerful tobacco lobby to sign order that also outlaws ‘vaping’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/19/philippines-president-bans-smoking-in-public-with-offenders-facing-jail

    You sense they want to cheer and I think if was anyone other than Durate whod brought it in they would have proclaimed them a secular saint already.

    Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte has signed an executive order banning smoking in public across the second-most populous country in south-east Asia, creating one of the region’s strictest anti-tobacco laws.

    The ban, which carries a maximum penalty of four months in jail and a fine of 5,000 pesos ($100), covers both indoor and outdoor smoking, presidential spokesman Ernesto Abella said on Thursday.

    It also covers existing bans on tobacco advertisements, promotions or sponsorship, which are subject to fines of up to 400,000 pesos and maximum jail terms of three years and possible revocation of business permits.

    The pole smokers at the cancer council will be engaging in prolonged bouts of Onanism imagining this done here.

  229. Roger

    Give wymminses a Uni edumacation and thye turn into whiners?

    Rebecca Weiser and my wife being notable exceptions that prove the rule.

  230. egg_

    The findings appear to indicate that problems with seals have allowed oils to move around. Different parts of the system use different types of oil of varying thickness.

    This in turn may have caused bearings to be worn which could have produced the metal particles in the oil in the Adelaide.

    Leaking bearings? WTF?

  231. Roger

    Leaking bearings? WTF?

    Spanish built ships with German propulsion systems integrated by a British company.

    What could go wrong?

  232. Mitch M.

    If the employer deducted the PAYG income tax from the employee and did not remit it to the ATO, the ATO will chase the employer. In your case the ATO could not recover it from the employer and chose to wind it up. They will often do that rather than give the employer a payment plan.
    The employee should not be responsible.
    The decision should have objected to.

    Yes, the employee used to be not liable. The ATO has debt pursuit limits. There was a big case about this decades ago. It was established that an accountant was instructing his clients that they could avoid paying PAYE(as it was back then, not G) because if the debt threshold was not reached the ATO would credit the employee. A friend of mine who worked there spent months chasing that accountant and eventually he was found guilty. I don’t know what the situation is now but I wouldn’t be surprised if the ATO has an even higher debt threshold pursuit limit. If the policy has changed the employee is held accountable that is disgraceful. The remitter stole the money, should be in goal.

  233. john constantine

    New oil seals rarely spontaneously fail.

    Usually there is a problem with the shaft they are mounted on, wobbles/vibrations and these usually come from a failure of whatever drives/is driven by the shaft.

    Whenever somebody says:

    “It is only a seal, they are cheap”

    Do not buy what they are selling.

  234. Makka

    This appears to leave open the possibility that the ship cannot actually perform at the level the manufacturers stated. Vice Admiral Barrett acknowledged this possibility, as well as that there were basic design or engineering problems.

    A little more than the wrong lube oil. The propulsion system might be so delicate that the vessel may struggle to fullfill it’s mission completely in a combat situation.

  235. Diogenes

    The employee should not be responsible.
    The decision should have objected to.

    That was not the advice we were given by our accountant.
    After looking a bit further, I see something has changed … Directors are now liable. So the contractors should be OK

  236. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yay!
    Seven News reports a historic event.
    The southern toll booths on the Sydney Harbour Bridge have been removed today!
    I think my great grandfather would’ve approved, since his good English steel was used in da Bridge.
    He was a metallurgist in Birmingham. Family history is he was responsible for the bridge steel in some way – 79% came from Pommyland, the rest from my town. Newcastle, NSW! (at least according to the wiki)

    Not the final historic history yet. The northern toll booths won’t be gone until next year.

    Long may she stand up.

  237. Tel

    The findings appear to indicate that problems with seals have allowed oils to move around. Different parts of the system use different types of oil of varying thickness.

    So the maintenance guys put the wrong oil in the wrong hole… am I right?

    Spanish built ships with German propulsion systems integrated by a British company.

    What could go wrong?

    At a guess, difficulty reading the instructions?

  238. Roger

    The propulsion system might be so delicate that the vessel may struggle to fullfill it’s mission completely in a combat situation.

    If I were a betting man I’d be prepared to wager the propulsion system per se is not the source of the problem, but rather its maintenance in the short time they’ve been operable.

  239. Combine Dave

    I said as much weeks ago, when they came up the lubrication BS. Who was on here saying it was just some kind of normal operational/application issue , something like a red warning lights in a car?

    LaserJet?

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