Wednesday Forum: August 16, 2017

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  1. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    3rd!!!

  2. Eddystone

    Driveby five (or six)

  3. John64

    Batting in the middle order.

  4. Rabz

    Poor ol’ Dickhead Smith, out there flogging his usual grab bag of contradictory “policies”:

    Economists and senior business figures have disputed Dick Smith’s claims that immigration is fuelling inequality and questioned his Grim Reaper campaign to save the nation from its “addiction to endless growth”.

    The entrepreneur launched the $1 million Dick Smith Fair Go campaign at Sydney’s Hilton hotel yesterday, with an attack on “big Australia” policies and a call to politicians to dramatically ­reduce the immigration intake.

    “All Australian families have a population plan. They don’t have 20 kids, they have the number of children they can give a good life to,” he told The Australian. “But our politicians don’t have an equivalent plan for the country.”

    The millionaire’s plan for tackling inequality would see the ­annual immigration intake cut from 200,000 to 70,000. His campaign also targets Australia’s wealthiest people, with a call for an inheritance tax, and total transparency in tax returns.

    Thank goodness I won’t have the pleasure of having to view his televisual advertising feasts.

    From the Oz.

  5. incoherent rambler

    Good to see the cat arithmetic skills on display!

    Unlike Barnaby Rubble who has trouble with arithmetic problems like:
    Q. “Number of countries of which you are a citizen?”

  6. lotocoti

    What did Rafe know and when did he know it?

  7. Roger

    “There is a physical difference between the white and black races that will for ever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality.”

    Abraham Lincoln.

    When are the Antifas going to attack the Lincoln Memorial?

  8. John Constantine

    http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20170815/pdf/43lfbljcvj6jpj.pdf

    AI software robot that can do face scans for pain medication requirements for the non-communicative in old folks homes.

    Good thing, but in a dystopia, president plibblefilth uses similar software to identify all those that suffer while listening to her leftist totalitarian ranting, and go on the list to have their electricity cut off by robot smart meters during the next ruinables blackout.

  9. OldOzzie

    Tom
    #2470231, posted on August 16, 2017 at 7:55 am
    OldOzzie at 7.18 am, who wrote that AFR rant?

    Stackja beat me to it on reply – but yes Laura Tingle

  10. Senile Old Guy

    Dick Smith:

    “What do we do about unsustainable perpetual growth, increasing inequality, and declining job opportunities due to robots and automation?

    All crap. If a robot can do your job, do you really want to do that work?

    The demographers tell us that in rich nations such as Australia, the next generation will live shorter lives than their parents while levels of unhappiness and mental illness will be rising.

    Predictions about the future have nearly always been wrong. Back in the day, I read books predicting what we would have and see in “Year 2000”. All utter bollocks. The prediction of “shorter lives” is almost entirely due to claims about obesity. I have not seen any claims about “unhappiness and mental illness” separate to that.

  11. feelthebern

    Has Obama called the Fort Hood incident terrorism yet ?
    Or is he still calling that a work place accident ?

  12. OldOzzie

    Just listened to the complete presser given by Donald Trump

    – Excellent by Trump the Main Stream Media are a pack of Vultures

  13. Senile Old Guy

    Dick’s manifesto is subtitled: “Australia’s wealthiest 1% own more than the bottom 70% – that’s 17 million Aussies!”

    And who is one of “Australia’s wealthiest”? Well, that would be Dick.

  14. John64

    Frank Elly interviewed That Wong Chap this morning, quelle surprise not one mention of homosexual marriage although by any fair assessment these two have done the topic to death over the past few years.

    With regards to his Chief of Staff contacting a mate in the NZ Labour Party and getting a question asked in Parlament; That Wong Chap adopted the tried and true Sargent Schultz defence.

    Frank couldn’t avoid the (Malaysian) elephant in the room and asked about That Wong Chap’s citizen status; the reply was much more interesting and along these lines:

    “I renounced my Malaysian citizenship many years ago and, no, I’m not going to produce any documents – no reverse onus of proof applies here.”

    In other words, it’s not up to me to prove that I’m not a Malaysian citizen – it’s up to someone else to prove that I am. Which is perfectly consistent with how the ALP is dealing with this.

  15. OldOzzie

    Another reason for SA Voters to NOT Vote for Crossbench senator Nick Xenophon

    Media deal ‘wrong for ABC’

    Crossbench senator Nick Xenophon has said he does not support the government’s media deal with One Nation in its current form, warning it would disadvantage the ABC.

    Senator Xenophon, whom the government needs to back its proposed media changes to pass the legislation through the parliament, said the ramifications of the deal struck last night between the government and One Nation had not “been thought through”.

    Under the deal announced last night, One Nation would support the abolition of the two-out-of-three and reach rules in return for the government agreeing to legislate a requirement for the ABC and SBS to be balanced and to publish the wages of highly paid ABC staff.

    But Senator Xenophon would not rule out supporting the bill if the government agreed to some of his own proposals, including tax breaks to small publishers.

    “This piece of legislation is not about the ABC or SBS, it is about the existential crisis that the commercial media has found itself, largely as a result of Google and Facebook, the fact that they hoover away $4bn worth of advertising revenue in this country away from commercial media outlets,” Senator Xenophon told ABC radio.

    “To me this is about how do you deal with antiquated two-out-of-three rule? How do you deal with the fact that the commercial media is struggling?”

    He said he did not see how the changes agreed between One Nation and the government would help commercial broadcasters.

    “I support the current (ABC) Charter which reflects to accurate and impartial broadcasting, I cannot see the need for the so-called fair and balanced test,” Senator Xenophon said.

    “What that would mean to the ABC in terms of the way it can fearlessly report issues? I don’t think the ramifications have been thought through.

    “This talk of the ABC being subject to further restrictions and the ABC staff to have their salaries published, that would be quite unprecedented and put the ABC at a real disadvantage with commercial broadcasters.”

  16. thefrolickingmole

    And how many in Hollywood know and just didnt care.

    Jimmy Savilles the lot of them.

    Roman Polanski faces new accusation of sexual assault on minor
    A woman, identified only as Robin, has said she was ‘sexually victimized’ by the film director in 1973 when she was 16 years old

    A third woman came forward Tuesday to accuse Roman Polanski of sexual assault when she was a minor, 40 years after he went on the run for raping another girl.

    The woman, identified only as Robin, told a news conference in Los Angeles she was “sexually victimized” by the legendary French-Polish film director when she was 16, in 1973.

    “The day after it happened, I did tell one friend that Mr Polanski had done that to me,” she said, reading from a prepared statement.

    “The reason, with this exception, that I kept it to myself is that I didn’t want my father to do something that might cause him to go to prison for the rest of his life.”

    He was hit with fresh sex crime allegations in 2010, when British actress Charlotte Lewis claimed the director “forced himself” upon her just after her 16th birthday.

    Polanski’s attorney could not immediately be reached for comment.

  17. Dr Fred Lenin

    First time in the team ,whoopee!
    If you want a quiet Australia Day ,go to The Yarra peoples Soviet in Melbourne ,they are having a grass smoking ceremony with pretend aboriginals for the invasion day whinge .and they are not making citizens that day .these prats giving out citizenship papers ? They aren’t Australian citizenships are they ? Did the pretend abos give them permission? Fix the bloody footpaths comrades that’s you bloody job ,not global u,n,communist shit . Green scum ,and tha Darebin Soviet is giving council help to the poofters “marriage”. Gang . If it becomes law ,just think of the money the lawtrade will make out of what will be jokingly called the “family court ” . Idiocy Rules !

  18. John Constantine

    “unhappiness and mental health issues”

    Rates of anti-depressent medication and stress leave and disability from stress and depression are numbers that let us actually track a trend towards those being crushed by the debt laden path our elity quislingy looting class has laid out for the country.

  19. Rabz

    AI software robot that can do face scans for pain medication requirements for the non-communicative in old folks homes.

    Good thing, but in a dystopia, president plibblefilth uses similar software to identify all those that suffer while listening to her leftist totalitarian ranting, and go on the list to have their electricity cut off by robot smart meters during the next ruinables blackout.

    Once again, we need to make the observation that Orwell’s 1984 was not an instruction manual.

  20. Mark M

    Chinese quantum satellite sends ‘unbreakable’ code…

    Chinese scientists have become the first to realize quantum key distribution from a satellite to the ground, laying the foundation for building a hack-proof global quantum communication network.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/10/c_136514705.htm

  21. Des Deskperson

    According to Roger’s link:

    “Cr Chen Yi Mei is passionate about social justice”

    Almost every Councillor in every municipality in Melbourne says almost exactly the same thing about themselves. Are there people actually cyborgs?

  22. Bruce in WA

    Mornin’ all. Still wet, wild, windy and woolly here in sunny WA.

  23. incoherent rambler

    “Cr Chen Yi Mei is passionate about social justice”

    Almost every Councillor in every municipality in Melbourne says almost exactly the same thing about themselves. Are there people actually cyborgs?

    Resistance is useless …

  24. Rabz

    “Cr Chen Yi Mei is passionate about Inter Species Marriage”

    Just putting it out there.

  25. Senile Old Guy

    Dick’s manifesto:

    Properly reform the tax system – so the wealthiest pay what they can easily afford

    I do like “fix”.

    • Fix tax rates to give the government enough revenue to provide proper services and infrastructure, a universal health scheme, and an adequate safety net for the poor, disadvantaged and elderly.

    Another “fix”. The problem is what do “proper” and “adequate” mean.

    • Name the top 1% of income earners and how much tax they pay (following the Norwegian system) – admire those who are on the top of the list!

    Envy politics.

    • Re-introduce an inheritance tax for the wealthiest 1%.

    An inheritance tax would not long be just for the wealthiest. And such a tax is another envy tax.

    Abolish donations to political parties and candidates

    Why?

    • Have a new election funding system financed by an increased tax on the wealthy.

    If the wealthy are paying so much, they should get more say. Right?

    For the first time ever, our living standards are in decline – other than for the wealthy. This is a catastrophe. Most importantly, much of our growth is being paid for by debt that future generations
    will be forced to pay back.

    This is correct but the reason is that the government is stuck in a tax and spend cycle. Dick’s proposals will not fix that and would probably make it worse.

    Our forefathers went to war to keep this country free and keep a ‘fair go’ and ‘mateship’ in existence. They did this so the wealth could be shared, which is certainly not happening now.

    I don’t think they went to war for wealth to be shared. That’s communism and one of the things some went to war against.

    The absolute greed of the very few is totally unacceptable in our so-called egalitarian society.

    Says multimillionaire Dick.

    Having said that, there is some sense in what he says in current immigration levels being too high.

  26. Awake

    #4 Roger

    I checked out the link. Your conclusion does not necessarily follow.

  27. Robber Baron

    Speaking of Karma from the other thread, it appears that Turnbull’s PMship is infested with the same karma that the Gillard PMship endured. The world has a funny way to get back at illegitimate PMships ensuring their time in office is brief, chaotic and turbulent.

    The longer Turnbull is PM, the better Abbott’s PMship was. Amazing!

  28. incoherent rambler

    I am off to play with the leaf blower.

    If only we were allowed to marry.

  29. H B Bear

    Well it looks like kd wrong has created an international incident. In a rare move it looks like the Performing Stick Insect is right but hasn’t gone far enough. Lord Waffleworth should declare war on New Zealand, possibly the only country Australia could defeat without US support. This would prove an excellent distraction from the next Newspoll and national accounts. Declaration of martial law would also be an ideal time to close the ALPBC staff co-op in the national interest. It would also prevent another Bledisloe Cup loss.

    I am struggling to see any downside really.

  30. Nick

    Cr Chen Yi Mei enjoys a wide range of interests including walking, travel, cooking, netball, pilates and music. She was born in Australia to Chinese parents is proud of her Asian heritage.

    Committee Appointments 2017:

    Aboriginal Advisory Committee

    Lol, you can’t make this sort of thing up.

  31. H B Bear

    Speaking of Karma from the other thread, it appears that Turnbull’s PMship is infested with the same karma that the Gillard PMship endured. The world has a funny way to get back at illegitimate PMships ensuring their time in office is brief, chaotic and turbulent.

    Was just thinking that yesterday Robber Baron. Remember every Sunday, Ol’ Leathery and his couch drones would lament, “If only the Slapper government could get a week of clear air.”

  32. Snoopy

    “I renounced my Malaysian citizenship many years ago and, no, I’m not going to produce any documents – no reverse onus of proof applies here.

    That’s what the ALP describes as a rigorous preselection check.

    And silly fucking Turnbull was happy to buy it.

  33. Snoopy

    “I renounced my Malaysian citizenship many years ago and, no, I’m not going to produce any documents – no reverse onus of proof applies here.”

    This is what the ALP describes as a rigorous preselection check.

    And silly fucking Turnbull was happy to buy it.

  34. OldOzzie

    Leftists in N. Carolina Scream, Kick, and Spit on Inanimate Metal Object

    Serious question for you good folks out there: are these people retarded?

  35. Roger

    Yet another moonbeam from the larger lunacy courtesy the SA Premier:

    Having delivered South Australians some of the highest priced and least reliable electricity in the developed world, the man who turned Penny Wong in the wrong direction now promises the average SA household a $50 annual cut on their power bills courtesy a solar thermal power plant. Less than a $1 per week.

    Undeterred by the skepticism of experts in the field who warn the technology will never be as efficient as its advocates claim, Weatherdill insists the largely untested technology signals “the death of coal.”

  36. TheSemiMentalBloke

    Woohoo! Forty Forff.

  37. Awake

    I call cowards people who use whatever it is that they have to point to the identity of the commenter.

    Last month, when comments were not posting, I made a comment for the host to please post my comments on SSM.

    A commenter with the handle Ms Doolittle, mock me for my comment and then say something about ethnicity. What are the odds that of all the ethnicities in world, she will choose the one of my ethnicity. Then it was followed by another comment from another person about another ethnicity that I in a way associated with.

    When people try to dox you and not engaged with the argument I call them losers and cowards.

    Been meaning to write these comment a while back but keep on forgetting.

    To tell the truth if I’m only NOT working , I don’t mind putting my real name and even picture on my comments. But circumstances such as they are now, have to be more prudent. Don’t want to loose my job.

  38. Nick

    And silly fucking Turnbull was happy to buy it.

    Yep. Also, given their hysterics at the Kiwis, they can’t very well ask Malaysia about Mz. Wong.
    Idiots.

  39. H B Bear

    After being intimate with Jay Weatherdill, lesbianism increasingly seems like a moderate response. I’m with kd on this one.

  40. OldOzzie

    Mad days in Canberra amid Joyce saga

    Malcolm Turnbull is a prime minister prepared to “do and say anything to try to cling to power” — this is the lethal hyperbole from Labor’s Tony Burke in his assault on the government over the Barnaby Joyce crisis, his purpose being to destroy the Prime Minister’s governing legitimacy.

    Turnbull’s government is not terminated. But this question depends on the High Court and defies prediction. If the court finds Joyce’s eligibility as an MP invalid then it will cost the government its majority and force a by-election that Joyce should win — but this struggle will be consuming.

    Whether or not Joyce is found ineligible, the government’s standing will be diminished and its vulnerability paraded. It proves yet again that Labor is structurally superior on politics — it outsmarts, outmuscles and out-thinks the government on almost every issue. Luck runs Labor’s way but that is no accident. The government must hope another twist will trap a Labor MP in the citizenship provisions.

    How long before the Prime Minister will address the political weakness at the heart of his government, a weakness obvious to the entire world? As if to prove its ineptitude the government’s tactical response yesterday — accusing Bill Shorten of seeking to seize office by a conspiracy with a foreign power (New Zealand, of course, who else?) — was gobsmacking. When Foreign Minister Julie Bishop warned she would find it “very hard” to build trust with New Zealand Labour if it won power, a diplomatic furore broke out across the ditch.

    The net impact: a bad situation for the government made to look even worse as well as absurd. The Turnbull government sank into panic conceived in apparent desperation. Labor took more heart from this touch of madness.

    The Joyce dual citizenship crisis strikes at the heart of Turnbull’s central claim since the election — that as a pragmatist he can govern effectively and secure his bills through parliament, and that his slimmest majority of one is no impediment. Nothing has been more important to him than this claim to governing stability and getting the job done.

    The government has just cut a deal with One Nation on its media reforms and the prospects have risen this highly justified reform — opposed by Labor — may pass. To quote Turnbull, that’s “governing from the centre”, yet the dual citizenship fracas, guaranteed to run on, means Turnbull yet again won’t get political kudos or polling dividends from any such success. It has been the story throughout 2017. The government repeatedly loses the politics. Having confronted serious internal disunity, Turnbull’s problems are compounded from a new risk to his government. If these two dangers, disunity and parliamentary vulnerability, become fused then Turnbull faces a nightmare.

    The cycle that plagues the Turnbull government keeps recurring: it seems unable to find clear air, seize control of the political agenda or damage its opponents. The best the government can expect from the Joyce fracas is repeated damage every day the parliament sits because, as Burke says, “We do not know whether or not this is a majority government.”

    It is no surprise Turnbull has embraced the “tough it out” strategy. If he buckled before Labor’s demands — that Joyce stand down from the ministry and decline to vote — his government would be exposed and risk succumbing to minority status. No government would allow that to happen; no government would acquiesce in such a result.

    There is, however, no reason Joyce cannot keep voting because he is eligible until found to be ineligible. Even if found ineligible, his cast votes are still valid. Yet the price Turnbull will pay from the ongoing Labor attack will be tangible. There seems to be another recurring pattern: Turnbull succeeds in negotiating his way out of one potential crisis after another, avoiding any fatal damage, yet seems unable to escape completely and leap free into permanent sunlight.

    This was the week the government was supposed to move on to a concerted attack against Shorten, who enjoys a charmed life as Opposition Leader. It followed the settlement over same-sex marriage and the postal plebiscite, an issue that threatened the government but saw Turnbull procure a compromise that kept his team together. Yet parliament had barely opened this week before Joyce dropped his bombshell.

    Burke’s demolition speech on Monday and Labor’s attack yesterday exposed the dilemma the government faces. The issue, and let’s get this clear, is not dual citizenship. Everybody knows Joyce is a loyal Australian. The issue is parliamentary eligibility and the risk it poses to coherent government and Turnbull’s numbers.

    Hence Burke’s attack: “They don’t know whether or not this is a legitimate government.” Burke said the government didn’t know if Joyce was eligible to sit as member for New England; it didn’t know if Joyce was eligible to sit as Deputy PM. Turning the screws, he said: “We knew there was instability within their partyroom, now we know there’s instability here on the floor of parliament.”

    Tanya Plibersek asked whether Joyce would be acting PM when Turnbull was abroad — Turnbull confirmed he would. Burke asked whether Joyce was a citizen of a foreign power — and Barnaby confirmed that, having discovered he was a New Zealand citizen, he had renounced that citizenship.

    The government was struggling yesterday. This was revealed in its embarrassing overreach given that a New Zealand Labour MP put a question on notice about citizenship after contact with an ALP staffer. Bishop launched a double attack: on Shorten — for collaboration with a “foreign power” against the Australian government — and on NZ Labour for breaking trust with Australia.

    The upshot is that NZ Labour leader Jacinda Ardern said the question should not have been asked — but declared that Bishop’s claims were “highly regrettable”, adding that she was ready to “take a call” from Bishop and would register her concerns about such “false claims” with the Australian high commissioner.

    It was a diplomatic incident. Labor’s foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong didn’t miss. She said senior ministers had “lost the plot” and mocked the government for a “Kiwis under the bed scare campaign”.

    In a display of bravado, Turnbull said on Monday the High Court “will” find in favour of Joyce. Yesterday, being the constitution­al lawyer he merely said the government was “very, very confi­dent”. He may have called it right but the court defies predictability.

    Under new Chief Justice Susan Kiefel it faces two extremely sensitive decisions for the government — whether the postal plebiscite is legal and whether Joyce, among other MPs, is eligible to sit. The government, clearly, is looking to the court to provide an interpretation of section 44 that clears the way to avoid repeats of this fiasco.

    Turnbull’s ultimate goal is obvious: he wants to avoid an early election and keep control of parliament not just to promote his government but to ensure a full-term parliament and maximise his chances of recovery down the track. Labor’s objective is apparent: destabilise the government, destroy its legitimacy and procure an election.

    The sub-theme of Burke’s Monday speech was: yes, it’s even worse than Julia Gillard — as he noted that “people will look at this parliament and see a level of chaos that has not been seen for generations”. Governments are not re-elected if parliaments are in chaos.

    With the court having to determine whether Turnbull still enjoys a majority government, the Prime Minister needs a favourable outcome as soon as possible. That’s another chance to leap into sunlight. But it won’t happen until he confronts the deficit of politics at the heart of his government.

  41. Roger

    #4 Roger I checked out the link. Your conclusion does not necessarily follow.

    You checked out the link?

    So send her a message and ask her what she thinks of the legacy of white Australia, est. 1788.

    Report back.

  42. “I renounced my Malaysian citizenship many years ago and, no, I’m not going to produce any documents – no reverse onus of proof applies here.”

    Was it before or after Wong was elected to the Australian Parliament?

    It’s never the crime, it’s the cover-up.

  43. Nick

    The Yarra Council dummy spit would have merit if all the participants lived like real Aborigines for a day; no public transport, no phones, no food other than what they can catch in the Fitzroy gardens, no beer, no matches. It would be fun to watch.

  44. Malcolm Turnbull is a prime minister prepared to “do and say anything to try to cling to power” Tony Burke

    Labor on the other hand has a long tradition of valuing principle over power.

    Bwahahahaaha!

  45. Sparkx

    Burke asked whether Joyce was a citizen of a foreign power

    Does NZ qualify as a power?

  46. Senile Old Guy

    Bolt quotes Shanahan:

    Bishop overplayed her hand in trying to prosecute a case of collusion against the NZ Labour Party by declaring she would find it “difficult to build trust” with NZ Labour. No matter how difficult some personalities and issues have been in recent years, no minister has called into question the future of Australia’s closest relationship. It was politically inept because it handed the carriage of the issue to the NZ Labour Party and didn’t help Joyce or Turnbull one jot.

    Bolt: The only mystery here is how Niki Savva will find a way to blame Tony Abbott.

  47. thefrolickingmole

    Any truth to the rumor the Libs are looking to hire a Volkswagen golf to hold their post election conference in?

    My father is near convinced Lord Waffles is the greatest double agent of all time.
    I just think hes a fuckwit who had one lucky business deal and has ridden off that since then.

  48. Nick

    The sub-theme of Burke’s Monday speech was: yes, it’s even worse than Julia Gillard — as he noted that “people will look at this parliament and see a level of chaos that has not been seen for generations”.

    Generations? Try the last ten years.

  49. OldOzzie

    Comment from Paul Kelly Article above

    @Michael The Constitution is clear. Candidates have to comply. If I am caught speeding in a 40km School Zone I can not argue “but it was 60km just before and I didn’t see the sign”. “Stiff cheese”, the Constable will say. Thus is life. #

  50. Tom

    A “journalist” who was apparently at today’s Trump presser tweeted this:

    Matt O’Brien
    ✔ ‎@ObsoleteDogma

    Smart of Trump to defend neo-Nazis to distract us from his possible Russian collusion.

    They really are the stupidest people ever born.

  51. Snoopy

    A media committed to doing its job would put all MP’s under the blowtorch on dual citizenship.

    But, no. All we get is puerile humour and bleating about how the out of date constitution doesn’t reflect the reality of our wonderful multi-culti country.

  52. Motelier

    The Wong chap is dodging and weaving about her citizenship.

    I wonder who one would contact in Malayasia to settle this.

  53. thefrolickingmole

    Wow, Trump derangement enters the twilight zone…
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/15/donald-trump-press-conference-far-right-defends-charlottesville
    Trump went on to equate Lee and his fellow Confederate general Stonewall Jackson with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

    While all four men were slaveholders, neither Washington nor Jefferson ever rebelled against the US in an attempt to protect the institution of slavery from federal interference.

  54. OldOzzie

    Leftists in N. Carolina Scream, Kick, and Spit on Inanimate Metal Object

    Comment

    They should show this side-by-side with those videos of the Taliban destroying antiquities…Pretty much the same mindless destruction of history by ignorant jackasses.

    Oh remember the outcry over that? The same college crowd were pulling their hair out over that…all those artifacts, destroyed, lost forever…the horror! What kind of animals would DO something like that?

    I await the book burnings. They’re coming soon.

  55. Nick

    From the Oz:

    PoliticsNow: Julie Bishop renews attack on Penny Wong, accusing her of “orchestrating” citizenship query with NZ Labour.

    FMD, why pour petrol onto a ‘nothing’ issue and ignore Wong’s real hidden dirt?

  56. Pivot

    From the Conservative Treehouse;

    Additionally, if you follow left-wing media and “google-logic” to it’s natural conclusion there’s a solid argument to be made that the Statue of Liberty is promoting gender stereotypes of women as caretakers.

    Leftism is a disease

  57. Tom

    Of course the idiot I cited at 9.30 am works for … the Washington Post.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Yarra Council dummy spit would have merit if all the participants lived like real Aborigines for a day; no public transport, no phones, no food other than what they can catch in the Fitzroy gardens, no beer, no matches. It would be fun to watch.

    This idea has merit. No cars on the roads, no hospitals open, no clothes to be worn other then skin cloaks, no food to be eaten other then what was caught in Fitzroy Gardens, or brought down with spear and woomera, no European style shelter to be used…

  59. H B Bear

    The sub-theme of Burke’s Monday speech was: yes, it’s even worse than Julia Gillard …

    Bwahaha even Statler (or Waldorf) knows we are not looking at Potential Greatness here.

  60. BoyfromTottenham

    The ALP says that it has a rigorous process in place to ensure candidates’ compliance with S44 (i), so they don’t need to show any evidence. So when did they put this compliance regime in place? Before Ms Wong was nominated as a Senate candidate? If not, back to square 1.

  61. JC

    Tom

    They don’t even pretend to be even handed at the Bezos blog. It’s just out and out leftism.

  62. Baldrick

    Robert Mc
    #2470296, posted on August 16, 2017 at 8:58 am
    The boat name –
    Floater
    or Baldrick
    Same same.

    Fuck off Trolly McTrollface

  63. Nick

    I’m serious Zulu, I’d be happy for them to complain about our invasion as long as they liked so long as they eschewed whitey’s sullied contribution. No money or welfare either.

  64. Snoopy

    While all four men were slaveholders, neither Washington nor Jefferson ever rebelled against the US in an attempt to protect the institution of slavery from federal interference.

    The 18th century US government attempted to end slavery?

  65. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jimmy Savilles the lot of them.

    More like Bryan Singer’s.
    Or Woody Allen’s.
    Or Roland Emmerich’s.
    Or George Lucas.
    Or…….

  66. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Wong chap on his/her hind trotters, dog paddling in treacle, trying to explain away her role in the NZ imbroglio.

  67. Haidee

    So much bad news. Joyce exposed; foreigners in Parliament; more doctors join push for SS’M’ while STI’s keep rising; new urging to change Australia Day, et cetera, et cetera

    But it’s not all bad ….. only five sleeps till the next Q&A, Baldrick. Keep up the good work, supporting the ABC. And don’t miss the Q&A after that! – heard there’ll be a group of ex-ADFers in the audience? (easy to pick – they’ll be the old roosters nattering amongst themselves about the good old days).
    An awful thought occurs: With all the women in the military now, imagine what the social gatherings will be like, in about twenty years time. Perish that thought

    Support Bernardi! AC membership grows …
    A holiday for the Ekka!
    redibo

  68. Tom

    JC, the clowns at the DNC and their lapdogs at Wapo won’t wake up until they get flogged in the 2018 mid-terms. But there’s no coming back for Wapo: they’re in a race with Fakefacts to see who disappears first.

  69. Mother Lode

    XENOPHON DEMANDS ABC BE UNFAIR AND UNBALANCED

    A fair and balanced ABC could hardly fail to point out SA has made itself a wreck, is doubling down and demanding the other states underwrite its green dreams.

    He is a self-fellating advocate of more byzantine regulation and control over the Murray and of those self-combusting pin-wheels scattered across the landscape.

    As long as the ABC is biased, he can count on good press from coast to coast.

  70. Roger

    …no food to be eaten other then what was caught in Fitzroy Gardens

    Isn’t there a vege patch behind Captain Cook’s cottage?

    Fence it off and post armed guards.

    They can sup in the comfort of the cottage whilst off duty.

  71. C.L.

    Nope. Sorry, Andrew Bolt. Pretty clearly I have neither brief nor inclination to defend the Turnbull government but it is Shorten, not Julie Bishop, who went too far on Joyce’s citizenship embarrassment. Everyone knows the latter is an accidental quirk of the system; the former – collusion with foreign apparatchiks to help bring down the LNP government – is no quirk. It is a serious matter. Or has the Wussia-obsessed Australian media changed its collective JournoList mind about ‘foreign interference’? Bolt is letting his justified loathing of the Turnbull Team cloud his judgment.

  72. Snoopy

    Bezos has a good lurk going. He promotes urban warfare through WaPo and then cleans up selling the accoutrements through Amazon.

  73. Baldrick

    TheirABC’s Zoe Daniel is still trying to link Fatty Trump and the KKK …

    Zoe Daniel @zdaniel
    Former head of the KKK thanks the President:

    —–
    David Duke @DrDavidDuke
    Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa

  74. Up The Workers!

    To “Motelier” at 9.32am:

    No need to consult the Malaysian authorities about the genealogical antecedents of “the Wong chap”.

    Her own political Party – the one which introduced the “White Australia Policy” into this country (a fact they don’t like being reminded of) – was once led by a bloke named Arthur Augustus Calwell, who expressed his Party view fairly bluntly when he famously said:

    “Two Wongs don’t make a white.”

  75. John64

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2470346, posted on August 16, 2017 at 9:41 am
    The Wong chap on his/her hind trotters, dog paddling in treacle, trying to explain away her role in the NZ imbroglio.

    GM – speaking to Frank Elly this morning, That Wong Chap invoked the Sargent Schultz defence. Apparently the Chief of Staff was on a frolic all of his own contacting his mate in NZ, totally unbeknown to That Wong Chap.

    I’m assuming the same lies are being disseminated to the Senate?

  76. Motelier

    “Two Wongs don’t make a white.”

    I am at deaths door with a really bad case of “manflu”, but that really put a smile on my face.

    Thank you.

  77. Nick

    Isn’t there a vege patch behind Captain Cook’s cottage?

    Fence it off and post armed guards.

    I’d forgotten that. Yes, the cottage and its garden could be a suitable place for those who wish to celebrate the day. They could even have a banner with a quote by Obama on it, writ large, saying ‘you didn’t build it’.

  78. C.L.

    Hey, it worked for his wedding anniversary:

    Today Show host Karl Stefanovic calls for Australia Day to be moved from January 26 because it celebrates ‘the day this land changed forever’ for indigenous people

  79. This is from Cwlth v ACT 2013, FRENCH CJ, HAYNE, CRENNAN, KIEFEL, BELL AND KEANE JJ:

    Once it is accepted that “marriage” can include polygamous marriages, it becomes evident that the juristic concept of “marriage” cannot be confined to a union having the characteristics described in Hyde v Hyde and other nineteenth century cases. Rather, “marriage” is to be understood in s 51(xxi) of the Constitution as referring to a consensual union formed between natural persons in accordance with legally prescribed requirements which is not only a union the law recognises as intended to endure and be terminable only in accordance with law but also a union to which the law accords a status affecting and defining mutual rights and obligations.

    This conclusion is so absurd it’s staggering. How do you move from accepting that marriage can include polygamous marriages to marriage is no longer a union between the sexes? I mean, if you are just going to through out the charateristic that was said to ‘found’ such a relationship, why must it still be a ‘consensual union’? Or one formed between ‘natural persons’? It’s just flabbergasting how idiotic is this actual decision.

    It’s as if they were desperate to concede that a same-sex ‘union’ could be a marriage under section 51 (xxi) contrary to all settled law and various legislative acts. There’s even a moment in the judgment where they decline going into the various theories of constitutional interpretation which meant they wanted to completely ignore what the founders meant by marriage during the Federation debates. In other words, a complete and utter clown show.

  80. jupes

    Just listened to the complete presser given by Donald Trump

    – Excellent by Trump the Main Stream Media are a pack of Vultures

    That Trump presser was a classic. He clubbed them with the clue-bat then just kept on whacking.

    He gave a more accurate account of what happened than any of them, interspersed with “fake news, alt-left, dishonest reporters” etc etc. Absolute gold.

    The cherry on top was when he pointed out to the numpties that he “owned one of the biggest wineries in America in Charlottesville”. LOL

  81. BrettW

    Seems Karl Stefanovic supports the change of Australia Day and supports Yarra Council. Hadley not impressed and apparently neither are the comments on Ch 9 social media.

    He must be hanging out with Lisa’s husband too much.

    Next Karl can lecture us on the importance of family.

  82. incoherent rambler

    the man who turned Penny Wong in the wrong direction

    I had to do this –

    the man who turned Penny in the Wong direction

    footnote: The leaf blower doubles as a great hairdryer. Thanks for asking.

  83. Nick

    TheirABC’s Zoe Daniel is still trying to link Fatty Trump and the KKK …

    Phew, I can’t wait for our new, fair and balanced ABC to denounce leaders who don’t publicly name and shame Islam the next time an attack occurs. Waiting.Waiting. Any minute now…

  84. Chinese scientists have become the first to realize quantum key distribution from a satellite to the ground, laying the foundation for building a hack-proof global quantum communication network.

    Proving yet again that calls for legal hacking is about attacking Joe Nobody but not any serious players.

  85. C.L.

    Once it is accepted that “marriage” can include polygamous marriages, it becomes evident that the juristic concept of “marriage” cannot be confined to a union having the characteristics described in Hyde v Hyde and other nineteenth century cases.

    Ergo: you can ‘marry’ your sister, a child or your beagle.
    Right?

  86. Also from the OOT:

    The ‘Howard changed the definition of marriage’ canard:

    If you’ve been following the marriage redefinition debate in Australia you may have heard the claim made that, in 2004, Howard introduced an amendment – overwhelming passed by the House and Senate – that changed the definition of marriage by introducing the following definition into the Marriage Act 1961:

    “marriage ” means the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life.

    However, the inclusion of this definition did nothing of the sort. Prior to its inclusion, the definition of marriage was provided by the common law. Here is how Black’s Law Dictionary (2nd ed.) defined marriage in the decade following Federation:

    MARRIAGE. Marriage, as distinguished from the agreement to marry and from the act of becoming married, is the civil status of one man and one woman united in law for life, for the discharge to each other and the community of the duties legally incumbent on those whose association is founded on the distinction of sex. (emphasis mine)

    RTWT.
    BTW, if you’re on facebook or twitter can you share/retweet. Cheers.

  87. jupes

    Today Show host Karl Stefanovic calls for Australia Day to be moved from January 26 because it celebrates ‘the day this land changed forever’ for indigenous people

    It certainly did. For the better.

    Who wouldn’t be happy to leave stone-age dentistry behind?

  88. Senile Old Guy

    PoliticsNow: Julie Bishop renews attack on Penny Wong, accusing her of “orchestrating” citizenship query with NZ Labour.

    FMD, why pour petrol onto a ‘nothing’ issue and ignore Wong’s real hidden dirt?

    Because the Liberal party, under Lord Waffle, are utterly useless. And Bishop is far from the brightest bulb in the room.

  89. Correction: I mean, if you are just going to throw

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m serious Zulu, I’d be happy for them to complain about our invasion as long as they liked so long as they eschewed whitey’s sullied contribution. No money or welfare either.

    I’m just as serious. Australia has twice been declared “settled” and NOT “invaded” by the High Court, once as part of the Mabo judgement. “Invasion” would have nullified “Native title” and “Land rights.”

    “O.K., have it your way. Australia was “invaded.” Here’s where you sign the formal surrender. Here’s the nullification of “Land Rights” and “Native title claims.” Here’s the schedule of repayments for all the payments made so far. Forget special benfits based on race. Your five hundred “Original Nations” will be treated as “conquered” under international law. “Negotiated treaties and compensation with each “Original Nation? ” Hahahaaaa…

  91. Mother Lode

    New Zealand, possibly the only country Australia could defeat without US support.

    Dunno.

    I can imagine the entire Australian Expeditionary Force grinding to a halt when someone in one of the advance units breaks a nail.

  92. Nick

    From Fergus’ link:

    Every person born within Malaysia after September 1962, of whose, at least, one parent was at the time of the birth either a citizen or a permanent resident in Malaysia, or who was not born a citizen of any other country

    Someone will have to find out about her parental units, who I’m sure, were citizens.

  93. Geriatric Mayfly

    Now that the Nation is gripped with the NZ distraction, it would be an excellent time for team Smith & Parry
    to release the Murphy J. papers. No one will notice, and the reputation of the great jurist will remain untainted.

  94. Stasis – A farce in one act

    Scene:
    A restaurant in a capital city

    Characters:
    High Net worth individual (HNWI)
    A senior politician (ASP)

    ASP: He wants to know how this dual citizenship issue should be handled.
    HNWI: He’s an idiot.
    ASP: He thinks there are many possible courses of action he could choose.
    HNWI: He thinks? I’ll tell you what I think, I think Ross Cameron was right.
    ASP: (Pauses for effect, having prepared for this) He means well and… always does his best.
    HNWI: Really?
    ASP: (Sensing the opportunity) The parliament, as it is comprised at present, has taken many years of your patience and time and much… resources to establish. Wholesale disruption to the status quo would see that investment jeopardised.
    HNWI: Go on…
    ASP: It occurs to me that perhaps it would be best for all concerned for the matter to be resolved with minimal impact on both major parties.
    HNWI: Can it be done?
    ASP: I’ll have a word to him… I just hope he is receptive…
    HNWI: See that it is done.
    ASP: Thank you for your time tonight and all you have done for us.
    HNWI: Good night. (Then eyeing ASP carefully) Your ambition is noted.

  95. Oh come on

    I read on the OT that Downs Syndrome has been eliminated in Iceland due to abortion. So this differs from eugenics how, precisely?

  96. Snoopy

    Can someone on Twitter draw Zoe’s attention to Hillary’s admiration for Senator Robert Byrd (D)? Not for her benefit, but for the benefit of the fools who follow her believing what she says.

  97. 132andBush

    Nope. Sorry, Andrew Bolt. Pretty clearly I have neither brief nor inclination to defend the Turnbull government but it is Shorten, not Julie Bishop, who went too far on Joyce’s citizenship embarrassment. Everyone knows the latter is an accidental quirk of the system; the former – collusion with foreign apparatchiks to help bring down the LNP government – is no quirk. It is a serious matter. Or has the Wussia-obsessed Australian media changed its collective JournoList mind about ‘foreign interference’? Bolt is letting his justified loathing of the Turnbull Team cloud his judgment.

    Just listened to Bolt/Price podcast and you’re spot on again, CL.
    They have become “different” since Price went to the jungle.

  98. Neil

    However, the inclusion of this definition did nothing of the sort. Prior to its inclusion, the definition of marriage was provided by the common law.

    I made that statement elsewhere and got this back as a comment

    The common law never actually explicity defined marriage as exclusively between a “man” and a “woman.” That particular definition comes from the 1866 case of Hyde v Hyde, dealing with the validity of a polygamous marriage under English law at the time. The statement about the definition of marriage comes from the Obiter not the ratio and therefore isn’t strictly common law

    I have no idea what that means

  99. Fergus

    Wong’s Wiki entry
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Wong

    Noticed Snopes has the Hillary/Bird story. True but all was forgiven.

  100. Tom

    The MGC has announced that the carpark in the surrounding parkland will be closed on AFL grand final day because of security issues, so 100,000 fans will have to park miles away and walk. Thanks, moozleys!

  101. OldOzzie

    Venezuela’s Grim Reaper – A Weekly Report

    The Grim Reaper has taken his scythe to the Venezuelan bolivar. The death of the bolivar is depicted in the following chart. A bolivar is worthless, and with its collapse, Venezuela is witnessing the world’s worst inflation.

    As the bolivar collapsed and inflation accelerated, the Banco Central de Venezuela (BCV) became an unreliable source of inflation data. Indeed, from December 2014 until January 2016, the BCV did not report inflation statistics. Then, the BCV pulled a rabbit out of its hat in January 2016 and reported a phony the annual inflation rate for the third quarter of 2015. So, the last official inflation data by the BCV is almost two years old. To remedy this problem, the Johns Hopkins – Cato Institute Troubled Currencies Project, which I direct, began to measure inflation in 2013.

    The most important price in an economy is the exchange rate between the local currency and the world’s reserve currency — the U.S. dollar. As long as there is an active black market (read: free market) for currency and the black market data are available, changes in the black market exchange rate can be reliably transformed into accurate estimates of countrywide inflation rates. The economic principle of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) allows for this transformation.

    I compute the implied annual inflation rate on a daily basis by using PPP to translate changes in the VEF/USD exchange rate into an annual inflation rate. The chart below shows the course of that annual rate, which peaked at 1823% (yr/yr) in early August 2017. At present, Venezuela’s annual inflation rate is 1195%, the highest in the world (see the chart below).

  102. Anthony

    Looks like it’s time for the conservatives in Australia to take over the reins. Step 1, sack Turnbull and his front bench. Step 2, select Tony Abbott to rip Labor apart and lead us to the next election.
    Then Tony, like all other super heroes will say, Looks like my job here is done. You mortals can handle it from here.

  103. Roger

    Someone will have to find out about her parental units, who I’m sure, were citizens.

    That she held Malaysian citizenship by birth and descent isn’t in question, it’s her renunciation of it that is.

    She will have to produce the documentation, sooner or later.

    If it exists, that is…

    Meanwhile, the elephant in the room remains Sam Dastyari; not only the question of his Iranian citizenship but that he actually did the bidding of a foreign power in return for financial gain.

  104. Snoopy

    The MGC has announced that the carpark in the surrounding parkland will be closed on AFL grand final day because of security issues, so 100,000 fans will have to park miles away and walk. Thanks, moozleys!

    Tom, I’ll think you’ll find the carpark is being closed to protect Moozleys from angry Viet hotties.

  105. Geriatric Mayfly

    Put it in simple terms please Old Ozzie. The Economist used use a Big Mac as the yardstick for world currency exchange rates. Any chance of pitting a Venezuelan Big Mac against a basket of other Big Macs?

  106. Robert Mc

    Fuck off

    Morning, Floater. Have a nice day 😉

  107. Up The Workers!

    Funny that the Dimocrats (America’s version of our Australian LIARS’ Party) are now all trying to gillard that conservatives and President Trump supporters are somehow linked to both the KKK AND to the Nazis.

    During the American Civil War, most of the Confederate States (i.e. those fighting to RETAIN slavery) were held by the Democrats. They were the ‘slavers’ Party. Abraham Lincoln was on the OPPOSITE side of the fence from them.

    The Nazis were the Nationalist SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party. SOCIALIST; like COMMUNIST; like A.L.P.; like LEFTARD. When the Second World War started, both socialist powers – the German Nazis and the Russian Communists – were allies, until like squabbling Labor(sic) factions, they turned on one another.

    Just like the A.L.P.’s gillarded ‘support’ for ethnic minorities (despite the fact that it was the A.L.P. who introduced the “White Australia Policy”).

    Just like the A.L.P.’s gillarded ‘support’ of feminist/womens’ issues (despite their uncritical, grovelling support for the only 6th century “religion” which condones wife-bashing, wife-beating, polygamy, stoning to death of innocent pack-rape victims, and “honour-killings”).

    Just like their gillarded ‘support’ of homosexuals (despite their uncritical, grovelling support for the only 6th century “religion” which condones tying the arms and legs of homosexuals and tossing them off the roofs of tall buildings as a public “religious” entertainment.

    You can really trust Leftard parties like the Dimocrats or the Australian LIARS’ Party.

    The A.L.P. Leader, Bull Shitten, guarantees it!

  108. lotocoti

    New Zealand, possibly the only country Australia could defeat without US support.

    Umm how?
    The RAN’s only seaworthy vessel is a 17′ LUB up at Coonawarra.

  109. Robert Mc

    DOTUS lost it big time in his overnight presser in the foyer of Trump Tower.

  110. 132andBush

    A suggestion for MsDolittles boat

    “Resfeber”

    Meaning here.

  111. Robert Mc

    Fuck off

    Good morning, Floater. Have a nice day 😉

  112. OldOzzie

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2470389, posted on August 16, 2017 at 10:11 am
    Put it in simple terms please Old Ozzie. The Economist used use a Big Mac as the yardstick for world currency exchange rates. Any chance of pitting a Venezuelan Big Mac against a basket of other Big Macs?

    Yes for July 2017 – but note it is official controlled exchange rate not real life black market rate

  113. Snoopy

    She will have to produce the documentation, sooner or later.

    In the short term Wong will be protected by the catastrophic collapse of the Turnbull government.

    When does she next face the electorate? I’m predicting she’ll choose to retire and spend more time with the kids.

  114. Roger

    I have no idea what that means

    Only the rationale – ratio – for a judgment becomes legal precedent in common law; obiter dicta – remarks in passing delivered as part of the judgment – only have the force of persuasion. This apparent lacuna in common law as it pertained to the definition of marriage is why Howard and Ruddock introduced the Marriage Amendment Act in 2004 – to definitely exclude the legal recognition of same sex marriages in Australia. It passed both Houses comfortably, it should be noted.

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m predicting she’ll choose to retire and spend more time with the kids.

    Just make one of them transgender when she needs to get back in the game.
    That transgenders so hot right now.

  116. incoherent rambler

    Hey Stimpy, where are the white women at?

  117. H B Bear

    I have no idea what that means

    Neil – I suspect that comment is from a lawyer. Lawyers distinguish two elements of judges decisions – ratio decidendi and obiter dicta. The ratio is those elements of the judges reasoning essential to come to the decision of the case with everything else being obiter. In theory the common law requires that the ratio of a case be followed by lower courts. Distinguishing the two is fertile ground for argument.

    My suspicion is that as the case concerned polygamy the judge was concerned with numbers not sex or beagles.

  118. Eyrie

    Don’t think we could do over NZ right now. Our two boats that could get there with troops and equipment don’t work and our attack helicopters are grounded. Anyway, the Warbirds over Wanaka crowd have a few tactical fighters which would work just fine against helicopters.
    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/australia-joins-germany-in-grounding-tiger-attack-he-440276/

  119. Neil

    This apparent lacuna in common law as it pertained to the definition of marriage is why Howard and Ruddock introduced the Marriage Amendment Act in 2004

    So i guess Howard did change something.

  120. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thanks Old Ozzie most instructive. But even that has given me a slight tension headache. Can we do it in cowrie shells next time.

    Yes for July 2017 – but note it is official controlled exchange rate not real life black market rate

  121. Snoopy

    I realise that the economics of recycling have been marginal at best, but has the ABC drawn the link between the collapse of the recycling industry and high electricity prices yet?

  122. incoherent rambler

    Draft for Mick Trumble’s resignation speech –

    My work here is done. I’m needed elsewhere now. I’m needed wherever Liberals rule the States. Wherever innocent women and children can safely walk the streets. Wherever a man can live in simple dignity. Wherever people cry out for social justice.

    h/t Blazing Saddles

  123. thefrolickingmole

    Everyone notice the big sucking vacuum of content every time Groogs posts?
    Its like Mr AntiCharisma and Mrs NoMates had a child they neglected and abused which was sent to a Pakistani orphanage for ugly kids where no one would play with him because he was too hideous.
    He tried begging in the streets but the residents of the Calcutta sewage district kicked him out for lowering the appeal of the neighborhood.
    He then slithered into the only occupation left suitable for his talents, a parking ticket inspector for Shit creek council.

    Unfortunately for him his life then entered a downward spiral of increasing self abuse and trying to keep mummies skin suit fresh. To relieve the joys of childhood he posts here where the distain and contempt shown for him by all rekindle the only happy bits of his childhood he knew, actually being recognized instead of ignored in the box in the corner.

  124. It is hilarious watching you lot falling over yourselves to deny the literal wording of the constitution. And you call yourselves conservatives. What a joke.

  125. redress

    Motelier
    #2470331, posted on August 16, 2017 at 9:32 am
    The Wong chap is dodging and weaving about her citizenship.
    I wonder who one would contact in Malayasia to settle this.

    Michael Smith is on the case………….http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/

  126. Snoopy

    Talk all you like about marriage morphing into something else, but when did Cocker Spaniels become Beagles?

  127. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2470413, posted on August 16, 2017 at 10:40 am
    It is hilarious watching you lot falling over yourselves to deny the literal wording of the constitution. And you call yourselves conservatives. What a joke.

    Links?

  128. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Yep – Michael Smith is calling in favours from contacts it seems……

    “Was travelling today, Ralph and Ruby Blewitt and I met up and then travelled on together (for 7.5 hours) to our destination where we’re now safely ensconced.

    One thing I’ve learned about Asia is the way personal contacts can get things done. And so private citizens are making diligent enquiries of their Malaysian government’s records about their country-woman Penelope Ying-Yen “Penny” Wong (born 5 November 1968).”

  129. jupes

    The MGC has announced that the carpark in the surrounding parkland will be closed on AFL grand final day because of security issues, so 100,000 fans will have to park miles away and walk. Thanks, moozleys!

    Muslims; the gift that just keeps on giving.

    We should import more of them so they continue to double their numbers every decade.

    You know it makes sense.

  130. Nick

    The MGC has announced that the carpark in the surrounding parkland will be closed on AFL grand final day because of security issues, so 100,000 fans will have to park miles away and walk. Thanks, moozleys!

    I await calls by the media for Andrews to name and denounce the guilty parties.

  131. Snoopy, CL called the wording of the constitution “an accidental quirk of the system”. So much for textualism. Today, when it suits their partisan narrative, conservatives are originalists!

  132. Stimpson J. Cat

    And you call yourselves conservatives.

    Oh no I don’t hippy.

  133. H B Bear

    Think of those tasty falafels jupes. Maybe buy a kebab for your walk to the ground.

  134. C.L.

    I read on the OT that Downs Syndrome has been eliminated in Iceland due to abortion.

    Well, it isn’t a disease so it can never be eliminated.
    There will always be Down Syndrome babies. What’s being acknowledged (or claimed) is that these babies are now killed in 100 percent of cases. Which is to say that in the contemporary West a person with a beard and a pair of balls may licitly identify as a woman but it is no longer socially acceptable to identify a Down Syndrome baby as human.

  135. Stimpson J. Cat

    Everyone notice the big sucking vacuum of content every time Groogs posts?

    Not just that.
    I’ve been watching the phones and every time he posts the hotline switchboard lights up.
    He is THAT depressing.

  136. John Constantine

    The difference between south australia and yarragrad is that the south australians can still consider in seam gasification for their coal reserves, the Nazgul of melbournibad won’t.

    http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20170816/pdf/43lg02xy7t9dmx.pdf

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hey Stimpy, where are the white women at?

    How would I know?
    If I am going to be abused or insulted by a wamens I would rather it happen in an ethnic language I can’t understand.
    Also they tend to cook more adventurously.

    😁

  138. incoherent rambler

    Also they tend to cook more adventurously.

    Dunno. I trust what you say. I’ve never cooked one.

  139. C.L.

    Snoopy, CL called the wording of the constitution “an accidental quirk of the system”

    I didn’t say the Constitutional wording was a quirk, I said …

    … Joyce’s citizenship embarrassment. Everyone knows the latter is an accidental quirk of the system …

    Like about a dozen others (apparently), Joyce (born in Tamworth) was elected to Parliament without appreciating that a distant and obscure connection to New Zealand may have rendered his election as an MP unlawful. As far as the Constitution is concerned I have already argued the High Court should not invent a vibe to let these people off the hook. The justices must apply the law as it is written, leaving any amendment to the legislature – which itself must ask permission from the people (pursuant to section 128).

  140. jupes

    Interesting that while the ABC article denounces Trump for “throwing fuel on the fire” of race relations, their pictures illustrate exactly what Trump was saying. Scroll down for pictures of the ‘alt-left’ (LOL)using battons and flame weapons.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dunno. I trust what you say. I’ve never cooked one.

    Now hang on.
    White wamen are great too.
    Not all of them are lesbians or transgenders or feminists or having abortions are they?
    If any white wamen out there think they can convert me from ethnic wamen send photos to Sinc.
    He’s my quality control.

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    This will be epic if Michael Smith gets the scoop.

  143. Snoopy

    So, Monty “you lot” means ‘one’ and you have to misrepresent CL to even get that. You dishonest rakemeister.

  144. hzhousewife

    So the Wong case is underway, now is Xenaphon a Cypriot or a Greek?

  145. jupes

    The main reason (along with TDS of course) that the media / left are going after Trump on this, is because they have done such a magnificent job over the last few decades to make racism the worst crime on the planet.

    Now Trump comes along and points out that leftist violence is the equal of racist violence and they don’t like it. Not one bit.

  146. Robert Mc

    Frolickingmole, what is ‘distain’? And you still haven’t said what are ‘mumies’.

    Are you doing another spectacular face-plant today?

  147. Fisky

    Steve Sailer

    It’s striking how Merkel has managed to exalt herself into the World’s Greatest Living Statesperson by the single dumbest thing she did. If she hadn’t let in Merkel’s Million Muslim Mob, the New York Times would be treating her like the Theresa May of Germany. But because she screwed up so badly on vacation in late August 2015, her infallibility has become a litmus test.

  148. Tim Neilson

    ,go to The Yarra peoples Soviet in Melbourne ,they are having a grass smoking ceremony

    Happens every day, all over the city Dr Fred.
    Oh, not that grass.

  149. .

    C.L. is right. Basic law must always be applied literally or as literally as possible. No constitution was ever written to be interpreted contrary to the meaning that was written.

  150. As far as the Constitution is concerned I have already argued the High Court should not invent a vibe to let these people off the hook.

    So you agree that Bill Shorten should be elected as Prime Minister with great haste. Excellent. Progress!

  151. From The Old Fred:
    Cohenite;

    A 113-year-old Confederate statue nicknamed “Old Joe” was removed early Monday from the front of the Alachua County administration building in Gainesville

    I wonder if the geniuses that destroyed that statue realised if you destroy the evidence of oppression, you have no proof of that oppression ever occurring?

  152. Tintarella di Luna

    Is a child born in Australia An Australian citizen?
    Children born in Australia after 20 August 1986: ➢ A
    re not automatically granted Australian citizenship. ➢ In order to be an Australian citizen, at least one parent must be an Australian citizen or permanent resident of Australia at the time of the child’s birth.

    I have sent an email to the Italian consulate in order to clarify any doubts as to my citizenship. But I think that even though both my parents were Italian citizens and did not become naturalised Australians until after I was born, they were however permanent residents. My parents have both gone to the great agricultural paradiso in the sky so I can’t ask mamma if she made an application for my siblings and I to become Italian citizens (since 1948 Italian citizenship follows the mother’s line – so much for the patriarchy) I’m pretty sure mamma may no such application, after all Papa wasn’t embezzling or defrauding anyone. Such a thing was never discussed and anyway I would’ve had to complete the forms for mamma given that though she could speak it mamma mia could not read and write in English; but you never know about these things

  153. C.L.

    So you agree that Bill Shorten should be elected as Prime Minister with great haste. Excellent. Progress!

    I couldn’t give a shit, Monty.
    I’m in the camp that wants the Turnbull LNP government destroyed.
    Shorten is the price of admission to that popcorn epic.

  154. Aussieute

    Paul Murray nails it with SSM
    SSM = Same Sex Minute
    That’s all the time he’s going to devote to it on each show
    https://www.facebook.com/PaulMurrayLIVE/videos/1803473076348320/

  155. Shorten is the price of admission to that popcorn epic.

    Come to my arms, comrade! We shall sing La Marsellaise and love our fellow man. Election now!

  156. .

    That’s a good point, Winston. Germany, Poland and European Je.ws. were wise to keep the monstrosities of Auschwitz etc.

  157. Oh come on

    Well, it isn’t a disease so it can never be eliminated.

    Regardless, how can the elimination of genetically undesirable humans not be considered eugenics?

  158. This apparent lacuna in common law as it pertained to the definition of marriage is why Howard and Ruddock introduced the Marriage Amendment Act in 2004

    So i guess Howard did change something.

    I wouldn’t be so quick to presume as such. I’m not sure that a relationship described as ‘founded’ on the characteristic of sex and which, in that case, only involves such relationships, is only obiter and not ratio. There’s also the fact that the Family Law Act 1975 defined marriage in exactly the same terms 39 years earlier.

  159. .

    I’m not sure that a relationship described as ‘founded’ on the characteristic of sex and which, in that case, only involves such relationships, is only obiter and not ratio.

    Apart from being married legally overseas? Please.

  160. I wonder if the geniuses that destroyed that statue realised if you destroy the evidence of oppression, you have no proof of that oppression ever occurring?

    Wow, that is a really, really dumb talking point Winston. Congratulations, you won the prize for the Dumbest Thing Said At The Cat This Week. A hotly-contested bauble, no doubt.

  161. BrettW

    Hadley on fire about a NSW primary school getting the kids to do a performance about stolen generation. Seems parents and grand parents not impressed with the school.

    No doubt the teachers are educating the kids about the paradise current outback Aboriginal kid live in.

  162. Rafe Champion

    Replying to locociti at 8.44 what did I know about sneaky Sinc starting the thread at 8.30?
    Sheer luck, checking in as I finished a scan of The Aust on line at breakfast, normally I try to get some work done before I get distracted by the action on the Cat.

    On a real topic, more moves on energy regulation in the US. Although compensation for coal power is a poor second best to getting rid of subsidies for green p0wer and other bad regulations.

    Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) Chairman Neil Chatterjee said he would look for ways to “properly compensate” coal plants for providing reliable electricity during his time as a top energy regulator.

    “These are essential to national security. And to that end, I believe baseload power should be recognized as an essential part of the fuel mix,” Chatterjee said in a video interview FERC officials posted online Monday.

    “I believe that generation, including our existing coal and nuclear fleet, need to be properly compensated to recognize the value they provide to the system,” Chatterjee said.

    Chatterjee’s comments are a nod to power plant operators and Republican lawmakers who worry that too much baseload power is being taken offline, in part, due to Obama administration energy regulations.

    Sixty gigawatts of coal-fired power has come offline since 2010, according to industry data. While most energy experts blame low natural gas prices, federal environmental regulations and subsidies for green energy likely played a big role in closures as well.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    Election now!

    Careful what you wish for M0nty.
    With an 8 week election campaign starting right now there’d be many headlines of the latest ALP MP outed as a furriner and booted from Parliament.

    After a few instances of this the great unwashed electorate is going to be completely fed up with Shorten and Turnbull. What are they going to do? Think about it kiddo.

    Who has done the hard yards of being persecuted by all sides? It seems entirely possible to me that a large chunk of the deplorables will go straight from the ALP to PHON in complete disgust of the wankers running the major parties (and I include the Greens given their recent splittism).

  164. pete m

    m0nty, it is only hotly contested due to the number of times you post. Always hard to pick which comment of yours is the winner.

    t00l

  165. Snoopy

    Wow, that is a really, really dumb talking point Winston. Congratulations, you won the prize for the Dumbest Thing Said At The Cat This Week. A hotly-contested bauble, no doubt.

    That’s exactly what an apologist for Democrat slavery and Jim Crow laws would say. The rakemeister never disappoints.

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This will be epic if Michael Smith gets the scoop.

    Certainly as epic as his private prosecution of one Julia Gilliard.

  167. OldOzzie

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2470448, posted on August 16, 2017 at 11:19 am
    Is a child born in Australia An Australian citizen?

    Children born in Australia after 20 August 1986: ➢ Are not automatically granted Australian citizenship. ➢ In order to be an Australian citizen, at least one parent must be an Australian citizen or permanent resident of Australia at the time of the child’s birth.

    I have sent an email to the Italian consulate in order to clarify any doubts as to my citizenship. But I think that even though both my parents were Italian citizens and did not become naturalised Australians until after I was born

    Tintarella di Luna

    both my parents were Italian citizens and did not become naturalised Australians until after I was born

    You are automatically an Italian by Birth as will be your children etc, but you need to submit the documentation to the Italian Consulate in Sydney, who in turn submit the documentation to the Commune where you Father was born

  168. .

    After a few instances of this the great unwashed electorate is going to be completely fed up with Shorten and Turnbull. What are they going to do? Think about it kiddo.

    Vote for Pauline in spades. Her time may have come.

  169. thefrolickingmole

    How peculiar, I do a post mocking a departed ex board poster and Robert Mc pops up?

    Why its almost like he has a personal stake in the ex-poster being mocked.

    distain
    dis·tain
    Use distain in a sentence
    verb
    Distain is defined as to discolor, stain or disgrace.

    http://www.yourdictionary.com/distain#gPs4wo6fKBO10GP1.99

  170. Rafe Champion

    Thanks Brett, where would we be without Radio 2GB and the so-called shock jocks.

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    Certainly as epic as his private prosecution of one Julia Gilliard.

    You would think that a man on a vendetta against a devious evil woman would know better than to associate with ANOTHER devious evil woman.
    I mean really.
    Live and learn.

  172. Rafe Champion

    I suppose the teachers in that school don’t know anyone who votes Liberal.

  173. Stimpson J. Cat

    Vote for Pauline in spades. Her time may have come.

    I am having visions of The Donald and The Pauline meeting for the first time.
    It would be epic.

  174. Up The Workers!

    Oops…Benny Wong’s attempt to claim sole Australian Citizenship is off to a bad start.

    I see that the Malaysian Citizenship Renunciation Form requires the declarant: “to be of sound mind”.

    And even IF she/he had gotten her/himself fingerprinted and contended that she/he WAS of sound mind (despite being a former A.L.P. Cabinet Minister) if and when she/he renounced her/his Malaysian citizenship; if she/he allegedly renounced her/his citizenship back then solely as a female, would she/he now have to do so once again as a ‘male’?

    Or as BOTH?

    Or as a Q.W.E.R.T.Y.L.G.B.T.Q.I. (and a partridge in a pear-tree)?

    Maybe the Malaysian process should require the inking of more than just the thumbs of the applicants?

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    I suppose the teachers in that school don’t know anyone who votes Liberal.

    Teachers ALL vote Labor or Greens,
    ESPECIALLY Arky.

    😂

  176. .

    distain
    dis·tain
    Use distain in a sentence
    verb
    Distain is defined as to discolor, stain or disgrace.

    Haha!

    What an epic faceplant, Robbie Lucile Mc Googleryface van Septimus der P.

  177. Who has done the hard yards of being persecuted by all sides? It seems entirely possible to me that a large chunk of the deplorables will go straight from the ALP to PHON in complete disgust of the wankers running the major parties (and I include the Greens given their recent splittism).

    Hmm, not sure I agree with your logic there Bruce, but if that does happen, I think it would be great for Labor in the Reps because they would get a non-zero percentage of preferences from PHON that they wouldn’t get if those votes hadn’t peeled off. As to what that would mean in the Senate, who knows because there are so many moving parts. How do the Cory Tory votes factor in to this analysis?

    In short, if the vote on the right did splinter as you say, I don’t see how that would be a bad thing for the left.

  178. Dr Fred Lenin

    Nick Them Yarra fella no bin huntin in Fitzroy gardens ,that belonga melbin siddy mob youbin gittim speared dare .

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    “to be of sound mind”.

    I am definitely not a Malaysian citizen folks.
    Thank f$ck.

  180. Mother Lode

    Looks like it’s time for the conservatives in Australia to take over the reins.

    It is always time for conservatives and libertarians to take up cudgels and fight back…but they never do.

    Facebook is a buzzing midden where greenbottles are welcome and butterflies shooed away? Well, lets set up an alternative. But we don’t, then decry the fact Facebook is still there.

    Twitter is a sewer? Well lets make a non-sewer one! But we don’t.

    The MSM lists so hard to port that they dare not open the windows on that side? Let’s…oh, never mind.

    There are so many realms the left has undisputed sway, but they have taken them and are not challenged. Why would they change strategy when what they have been doing is working?

    And I am very conscious that I am not really achieving anything either so this is not finger pointing – just frustration.

  181. Also, the amount of “deplorables” who voted ALP and would switch to PHON could fill a phonebox so I don’t think that part of your analysis rings true.

  182. Roger

    Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) Chairman Neil Chatterjee said he would look for ways to “properly compensate” coal plants for providing reliable electricity during his time as a top energy regulator.

    “These are essential to national security. And to that end, I believe baseload power should be recognized as an essential part of the fuel mix,” Chatterjee said in a video interview FERC officials posted online Monday.

    Good Lord!

    An energy administrator who appears to understand the basics of the industry and speaks in plain English.

    How on earth did we get lumbered with Audrey Zibelman?

  183. H B Bear

    mUnty seems very excited today. Has Uncle George given him a pay rise while he waits for things in Charlottesville to blow over?

  184. .

    m0nty
    #2470487, posted on August 16, 2017 at 11:48 am
    Also, the amount of “deplorables” who voted ALP and would switch to PHON could fill a phonebox so I don’t think that part of your analysis rings true.

    This is where you’re dead wrong.

  185. OldOzzie

    The Joys of Middle Eastern Immigration

    Melbourne criminals cash in on major fake road smash scams

    CRIMINALS have made fake crash claims on luxury cars up to six times each in a high-end collision ring uncovered by police.

    Maseratis, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Audis and Mercedes-Benzes have been the subject of a major insurance rort run by the syndicate of Middle Eastern organised crime figures. Those under scrutiny have allegedly claimed more than $1 million.

    Crooked panel shop operators and bent mechanics are under investigation for their roles in the schemes, which are centred in the northern suburbs. Scam operators buy cheap written-off cars at auction houses to match those intended as the subject of crash claims.

    Third-parties are engaged to provide another vehicle to be involved in the “accident”.

    Damage to the syndicate’s car is claimed against the policy of the third party, whose role is engineered to be liable for the bingle.

    “(The third party) is always in the wrong,” one source said.

    Those involved in the rorts have allegedly:

    CLAIMED six times on a Mercedes Benz valued at more than $80,000;

    HIT rental company insurers for big payouts when their cars were used in staged crashes; and

    INTIMIDATED or paid third parties to play their role.

    Victoria Police’s anti-gangs division has run Operation Contract for months in an effort to crack one group responsible for as many as 20 crashes.

    The staged prangs usually take place in quiet industrial areas without CCTV or witnesses. Those involved take their own photos of the auction house car’s damage and arrange for it to be taken away.

    Repair work is carried out by the workshop of a business operator connected to the group.

    Smash damage is sometimes inflicted on the vehicle at the workshop before it is transported to the scene.

    Insurance industry figures say staged smash rip-offs run into many millions of dollars nationwide.

    Eighteen cars have been seized and more than 500 checked as part of the probe.

    “We are building a very strong case against them. We are also working with insurers to limit opportunities for this to occur in the future,” Detective Sgt Belinda Jones of the vehicle crime squad said.

    In some cases, vehicle hire companies have also been ensnared by the rorters, with their cars rented, with insurance, then used as the faulty party in an accident.

    Rort organisers then claim on the rental company’s policy.

    Insurers have in some cases suspected they are being swindled but backed down and paid out because of the risk of legal battles with the scammers.

    Insurance companies have been for years red-flagging names suspected of being linked to what is known in the industry as “claim farming”.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hadley on fire about a NSW primary school getting the kids to do a performance about stolen generation. Seems parents and grand parents not impressed with the school.

    About twenty years ago, one of the younger generation came home, a puzzled lad. A class assignment was to write the preamble to a treaty with the Aboriginals.

    His suggestion of

    “We won
    You lost
    Too bad
    So sad.”

    had been rejected. The teacher wanted a genuine preamble.

    Not so very later, a nephew had been asked at school, if the class thought there was a down side to Aboriginal culture before “white invasion.” . The lad had put his foot in it properly by suggesting that life had been nasty brutal and short, and some tribes may have practiced cannibalism. He had been shouted at, and sent to the headmaster for counseling “regarding his racist views.”

    Offered enough evidence from my library to prove his point, he shook his head. “It’s no use. If you disagree with anything, he just shouts at you, or gets the rest of the class to laugh at you.”

  187. BrettW

    Ex soccer player Robbie Slater just called Ray to say he was one of the parents at the school performance and said he was disgusted. 5 year old kids confused and asking questions.

    You can guess the answers the teachers must be providing.

    However not to worry. Mark Scott is head of NSW Education. He will ensure balance.

  188. Tintarella di Luna

    They have become “different” since Price went to the jungle.

    If you mean Price has gone over the left wing undulation, my hunch: perhaps his contract is up for renewal and it may not be in the offing so he’s virtue signalling to the ABFNC that he’s there for the taking

  189. Robert Mc

    This will be epic if Michael Smith gets the scoop.

    Certainly as epic as his private prosecution of one Julia Gilliard.

    Yes, indeedy. And the conviction of the Red Dalek resulted in her incarceration for how long?

  190. H B Bear

    However not to worry. Mark Scott is head of NSW Education. He will ensure balance.

    Yes. A fine Lieboral appointment. Very sound.

  191. Tintarella di Luna

    Then Tony, like all other super heroes will say, Looks like my job here is done. You mortals can handle it from here.

    You mean like Lucius Quintius Cincinnatus-like.

  192. thefrolickingmole

    OldOzzie

    Exactly the sort of thing you would see at the Perth Airport auctions for written off/unregistered vehicles.
    Add in a bit of rebirthing and stealing to order and you have a great criminal scam.

  193. Robert Mc

    Well googled, frolickingmole. Nice recovery. And a second from the autist too.

    ‘mumies’ ?

  194. HB Bear:

    Lord Waffleworth should declare war on New Zealand, possibly the only country Australia could defeat without US support.

    If you could stop the troops from engaging in footy games, drinking contests, and competitions to shoot the mythical foxes with obsolete WW2 war surplus 25 pounders, , then we may be in with a chance.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    There was an ad in the Nine morning news so I thought I’d check out what crap ABC24 was spouting.
    Oh my! I lasted two whole seconds. The fakest fake news story I’ve ever seen was being propounded as the glorious truth: the “expedition” to sail to the North Pole, which valiantly left port yesterday.

    Anyone with a brain and about 20 seconds on Google can determine how fake this is. Just look at the Arctic ice cap data. More sea ice than 2015 or 2016 for the date. How are these wankers going to get through 6 million square km of ice around the Pole? Nukes?

    The ABC desperately needs attention by a bulldozer and about a dozen B-double loads of salt. Then deport the lot of them to Alaska where they can see the non-existent ice out the window.

  196. Robert Mc

    Well googled, frolickingmole. Seconded by the autist too. Shame you misspelt the original word.

    ‘mumies’?

  197. Apart from being married legally overseas? Please.

    ?

  198. Snoopy

    Robert Mc
    #2470511, posted on August 16, 2017 at 12:07 pm
    Well googled, frolickingmole.

    What happened to Googlery M?

  199. Mother Lode

    Frolickingmole, what is ‘distain’?

    Probably the result of bad diet and not wiping properly.

    You really should look to your bad habits, Septimus.

    Oh, and fuck off.

  200. Up The Workers!

    “Mark Scott is head of NSW Education.”

    Isn’t that the same mob once headed up by a certain former convicted criminal heroin-dealer whose spouse currently aspires to the office of Australia’s next Deputy Prime Minister?

    I think that somebody in the Personnel Department at NSW Education, must be deeply into their former bosses’ stash of Columbian Marching Powder.

    No wonder kids are being turned out of our schools as illiterate, innumerate yobs – they are all being “ejikated” to grow up as Labor(sic) voters.

    LABOR(sic) – it has no place for “U”!

  201. Bruce of Newcastle

    In short, if the vote on the right did splinter as you say, I don’t see how that would be a bad thing for the left.

    M0nty – Lying to my face, and misrepresenting my words, is not something you need to do. Nor is it something I will accept.

    The hypothesis I outlined was splintering of the Left.

  202. Mother Lode

    So the Wong case is underway, now is Xenaphon a Cypriot or a Greek?

    He can’t be a Cretan since, in one iteration of elucidating the famous paradox, he would be telling the truth half the time.

  203. .

    Let’s be honest. Education is a racket.

    Primary school ought to go for three years and high school for one year. High school mathematics is taught in one semester at university.

    University and the trades ought to be cut in half, ridiculously long holidays and minimal face to face instruction at TAFE just keeps the racket going.

  204. .

    dover_beach
    #2470523, posted on August 16, 2017 at 12:20 pm
    “?” indeed.

    What’s your point?

    What was yours?

  205. Pedro the Ignorant

    Interesting to see that Michael Smith is in Malaysia at the same time the Wong chap’s eligibility to sit in the Senate is under a cloud.

    Smith’s union whistleblower friend Ralph Blewitt has lived in Malaysia for many years, and is not known for his love of either ex PM Gillard or the rest of the ALP.

    Digging the dirt?

  206. Tintarella di Luna

    You are automatically an Italian by Birth as will be your children etc, but you need to submit the documentation to the Italian Consulate in Sydney, who in turn submit the documentation to the Commune where you Father was born

    So if I don’t submit the paperwork am I still an Italian citizen? What is the status of jus sanguinis in Australian law. I don’t want to be an Italian citizen, I have never had allegiance to Italy in any way shape or form. So since when do the laws of another country compromise the domestic law in relation to citizenship if I was born in Australia, have always regarded myself as Australian, have only ever had allegiance to Australia how would I be contravening S.44 of the Australian Constitution

  207. jupes

    Thanks Brett, where would we be without Radio 2GB and the so-called shock jocks.

    In a land of cheaper gas?

  208. The Countess

    Teachers ALL vote Labor or Greens,

    No they don’t. Until Malcolm Turnbull I never voted anything other than Liberal.
    Now a member of Australian Conservatives, and I’ll never teach again. The curriculum is so leftist it beggars belief.
    DS has to do a Commerce assignment on the advantages of a collectivist economy compared to a capitalist one. They’re not even hiding it any more.

  209. What’s your point?

    What was yours?

    You jump into a discussion you were not a part of and you play these pissy little games when asked to clarify what you meant. Juvenile.

  210. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Meanwhile while parliament is in disarray and the country is going broke……….the Oz

    “MPS get payrise

    The Remuneration Tribunal has effectively handed politicians another pay rise by increasing their travelling allowance.

    The tribunal said the change will apply to those in judicial offices and parliamentarians.

    The allowance will rise from $276 per night to $285 per night for politicians when they stay in Canberra to attend parliament.

    Parliamentarians can claim over $400 per night when staying in other capitals such as Sydney.

    A Senator or Member from Canberra or those representing an electorate adjacent to the Australian Capital Territory and who live within a 30 kilometre radius of Parliament House can now claim a daily expense allowance of $90 for each sitting day.

    This is up from $87 a day last time the tribunal made a ruling in 2016.

    the changes will come into place on August 27.”

  211. Tintarella di Luna

    Is there any hope this might bite the ample posterior of a certain MP of Slovenian parentage?

    Slovenian nationality law is based primarily on the principles of Jus sanguinis, in that descent from a Slovenian parent is the primary basis for acquisition of Slovenian citizenship. However, although children born to foreign parents in Slovenia do not acquire Slovenian citizenship on the basis of birthplace, place of birth is relevant for determining whether the child of Slovenian parents acquires citizenship.

  212. herodotus

    We hear a lot about attacks on the ABC’s high salaries and the need for transparency thereof being nasty and unnecessary. We also hear that there are some close relationships of ABC personalities that from time to time seem a bit off, or at least surprising. But these are seldom pursued in the MSM. So why in The World Today was the ABC subjecting Seven’s boss Tim Worner to detailed examination of both his salary and the recent Amber Harrison affair?
    They went further in looking at the bad year financially that Seven was posting, but flicked instantly to giving their mates at Fairfax a favourable pat on the back for posting a profit, small though it is, after a lot of cost-cutting and redundancies.

  213. Geriatric Mayfly

    So the Wong case is underway, now is Xenaphon a Cypriot or a Greek?
    He can’t be a Cretan

    Try Cretin then.

  214. C.L.

    The truth is the descendants of the slaves brought to the US are the luckiest Africans in history.
    While they’re toppling Robert E. Lee statues, their cousins are struggling to avoid cholera, death squads, lions or being chopped up for voodoo potions.

  215. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Canberra bomber in court….from the Oz….

    “The man accused of driving a van laden with gas bottles into the Australian Christian Lobby’s Canberra offices has been committed to stand trial in the ACT Supreme Court.

    Jaden Duong, 36, appeared in the ACT Magistrates Court today charged with one count of arson and one count of damage to property over the December explosion, which allegedly gutted ground floor of the ACL offices.

    Mr Duong’s right hand was yesterday bandaged, and he had burn scars on his neck and face.

    His lawyer Peter Woodhouse had his client committed to stand trial in the ACT Supreme Court, where he will plead not guilty on the basis of mental insanity.

    “The facts in this matter are not in dispute. It’s an issue of mental impairment,” Mr Woodhouse told the court.

    Mr Duong was bailed to appear for a directions hearing on August 24.

    He was flanked by Mr Woodhouse and two female relatives and did not comment as he left the court.

    In the aftermath of the incident, police said they did not believe the actions were “politically, religiously or ideologically motivated” — a claim which has been vehemently disputed by ACL head Lyle Shelton.

    Outside court today, Mr Shelton said he could not comment on the case as it is before the courts.

    The incident occurred at 10:45pm on December 23, when the Deakin building in Canberra’s inner south was unoccupied.

    Mr Duong, who was badly burned, walked 4km to the Canberra Hospital and was later transferred for treatment in Sydney due to the severity of his injuries.”

  216. .

    dover_beach
    #2470532, posted on August 16, 2017 at 12:24 pm
    What’s your point?

    What was yours?

    You jump into a discussion you were not a part of and you play these pissy little games when asked to clarify what you meant. Juvenile.

    This is a public forum. There is nothing “juvenile” in pointing out you were gibbering on with bush lawyer nonsense before.

  217. Robert Mc

    btw frolickingmole (and the autist), ‘distain’ is actually a verb innit. So, you can’t correctly say ‘the distain’.

    Keep it up, you are in sight of your own face-planting record. You might even get there today.

  218. Anthony

    Frolickingmole, what is ‘distain’? And you still haven’t said what are ‘mumies’.

    Dis stain or dat stain, mumy will get it out with Fab.

  219. This is a public forum. There is nothing “juvenile” in pointing out you were gibbering on with bush lawyer nonsense before.

    So you’ve still failed to clarify your position.

  220. C.L.

    Mr Duong, who was badly burned, walked 4km to the Canberra Hospital …

    As you do when you attempt to commit suicide.

  221. Snoopy

    Duelling question marks?

  222. herodotus

    “I’m not finished, Fake News.”
    Go Trump!

  223. thefrolickingmole

    Robert Mc

    You are a sad fuckwit, rush off and see if mumys nipple is still fresh in the fridge or if another backpacker needs the hole/hose/lotion treatment again.

    weirdo

  224. OldOzzie

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2470528, posted on August 16, 2017 at 12:23 pm
    You are automatically an Italian by Birth as will be your children etc, but you need to submit the documentation to the Italian Consulate in Sydney, who in turn submit the documentation to the Commune where you Father was born

    Sorry, from my understanding you have automatic Italian Citizenship from both your parents, the submitting of documentation was for Registration of Italian Citizenship and applying for Passports.

    I would suggest you contact the Italian Consulate in Sydney who are very helpful and should be able to help you with your questions following

    So if I don’t submit the paperwork am I still an Italian citizen? What is the status of jus sanguinis in Australian law. I don’t want to be an Italian citizen, I have never had allegiance to Italy in any way shape or form. So since when do the laws of another country compromise the domestic law in relation to citizenship if I was born in Australia, have always regarded myself as Australian, have only ever had allegiance to Australia how would I be contravening S.44 of the Australian Constitution

  225. .

    An illiterate weirdo too. Applying rules of grammar blindly without knowing the meaning of the words – this does not work in a language like English, nor does it always work with transitive verbs. A particularly spectacular faceplant from someone too bandying about the “autist” insult as well.

    The upshot is any pretence that Robbie Mc and P were ever different people to Septimus is totally destroyed.

  226. Jaden Duong, 36, appeared in the ACT Magistrates Court today charged with one count of arson and one count of damage to property over the December explosion, which allegedly gutted ground floor of the ACL offices.

    No.
    The explosion gutted the ground floor of the ACL building, of that there is no doubt.
    The act was allegedly perpetrated by Jaden Duong.

  227. C.L.

    Reliable leftist stooges, the Executive Council of Australian Je-ry, spring into action:

    Jew1sh group backs Michael Kirby after gay marriage, Holocaust comparison

    /The Australian

  228. Baldrick

    I see Grigory McZee von Haidee is making lots of friends at the Cat.

  229. Crossie

    They should show this side-by-side with those videos of the Taliban destroying antiquities…Pretty much the same mindless destruction of history by ignorant jackasses.

    Oh remember the outcry over that? The same college crowd were pulling their hair out over that…all those artifacts, destroyed, lost forever…the horror! What kind of animals would DO something like that?
    I await the book burnings. They’re coming soon.

    Burning books will not be enough, they will want to burn both the authors and readers.

  230. Geriatric Mayfly

    What’s so wrong with ABC?’
    An ABC radio host asks a loaded question of Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young about One Nation’s “hate’’ of the ABC.

    Should have asked her about the Greens’ hatred of the Murdoch press.

  231. Tintarella di Luna

    I would suggest you contact the Italian Consulate in Sydney who are very helpful and should be able to help you with your questions following

    Thanks OldOzzie, yes I did that early this morning but am puzzled by the whole damned thing, how can anyone renounce something they didn’t even know they had? Both my parents are dead and I certainly didn’t learn anything in social studies about the conundrums posed by s.44 of the Constitution but then again how quaint it would have been or would be today to be taught anything about the Australian Constitution or anything about the political workings of our nation.

  232. Senile Old Guy

    Yarra City councillors voted on Tuesday night to stop referring to January 26 as Australia Day and to cease holding any citizenship ceremonies on that day from 2018.

    Okay, some alternatives (via Wikipedia)…

    April 19? No, that’s when Cook reached Australia, so bad choice.

    April 23? No, that’s when he first saw indigenous Australians, so a really bad choice.

    April 29? First landfall on the mainland.

    22 August? Cook landed on Possession Island, “where he claimed the entire coastline that he had just explored as British territory.”

    This is harder than I thought!

  233. Baldrick

    It’s okay m0nty. You are not alone:

    (((David Lytle))) ✔ @davitydave
    I vomited on election night. Today, I bawled for 20 minutes. The stress and anxiety brought on by a threatening president is overwhelming.

    … and gets a hammering in the comments.

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