Monday Forum: March 12, 2018

Posted on March 12, 2018 by Sinclair Davidson
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  1. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    Hey ‘splatter pattern’

    when the Marines throw you to the crocodiles the crocks may spit you out.

    But you are dead.

  2. Muddy says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Roger – True. Plus my job depends on a clean record. I struggle with the world not being black & white: you do bad things, you get caught, you get punished. Good people are rewarded. Nah. I must be a lot more simple than I previously thought.

    Mark A – Yes, I’ve belatedly realised that. I usually take the dog just up the road though, barely 100 metres from my place, so I haven’t considered I’d need it previously. Lesson learned.

  3. Boambee John says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    mirror image of racists like you.

    Racist = someone who disagrees with test pattern!

  5. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    hzhousewife
    #2659865, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    So my student daughter, who pays no tax, inherited some shares from her grandmother and gets $90 twice a year in dividends. This will be denied her? At the very least these dollars could be used to reduce her HECS?

    Ok, it goes like this (assume the dividends are fully franked and no other income):-
    The situation now …
    Dividend received … $180.
    Franking Credit … $77.
    Taxable … (sum of above) … $257
    Tax at marginal rate of 0% … $0
    Tax imputation rebate due from ATO … $77.
    Total receivable … $257.
    .
    The situation under the ALP Camp Co-ordinator …
    Dividend received … $180.
    Franking Credit … $77.
    Taxable … (sum of above) … $257
    Tax at marginal rate of 0% … $0
    Tax imputation rebate due from ATO … $nil. as this can only now be deducted from any other tax payable
    Total receivable … $180.
    So much for this only impacting da rich.

  6. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    and top ‘o de page to yez all.

  7. Kev says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Still waiting for you to tell me who built the new wharf at Roper Bar in 1981 and why.
    I was there in the 80’s with the Army. Went for a walk away from the shop and surprisingly, found a Semi Trailer parked near the new landing. Driver told me trawlers came down the Roper, filled the refrigerated semi with prawns and sent it off to Perth.

  8. Chris says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Racist = someone who disagrees with test pattern!

    No. He agrees with us on the facts, just wants to abuse us for self-pleasure.

  9. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    Now tell us about Roper Bar 1981,

    Why this crazy obsession with Raper Bar?
    Get off the fumes, Testicle.
    You’re embarrassing yourself.

  10. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    European death watch
    Cut working hours to create jobs – M5S
    Without lowering pay, to cope with long-term robotization

  11. Nick says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Did Roper Bar runout of VB?

  12. cohenite says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Jennifer has just put up the complaint about the recent 4 corners crap about globall warming:

    http://jennifermarohasy.com/2018/03/complaint-lodged-four-corners-weather-alert/

  13. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Nick
    #2659886, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:46 pm
    Did Roper Bar runout of VB?

    .
    Oh it’s-a lonesome away from your kindred and all
    By the campfire at night we’ll hear the wild dingoes call
    But there’s-a nothing so lonesome, morbid or scary
    Than to stand in the bar of a pub with no sherry

  14. testpattern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Another great win! Justice Mortimer and Yi-Martuwarra Ngurrara. Congrats.

    ‘The Ngurrara people have today been recognised as the native title holders of approximately 20.000 square kilometres of land and water in the central Kimberley.

    Traditional Owner and Named Applicant Harry Yungabun said he felt relieved to finally see native title recognised on his country.

    “Native title is really important for recognition for our old people, but especially our young people, the future generation, so they can understand the land, the country, the people and the culture. I feel relieved that after all this time we’ve finally done it, we’ve gotten native title.”

    Congratulations to all the Traditional Owners on this very special day.’

    https://www.facebook.com/kimberleylandcouncil/posts/1950133691906010

  15. Muddy says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    hadn’t considered…
    Grammar deterioration sets in.

  16. Chris says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    So when you were at Roper Bar, did you hide box of white cans from the store under your armpit and head up the road for a little Ngukkur each week? I never did, I didn’t have a permit to go there but I bet you did.
    As to the wharf, why would I know?

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Racist = someone who disagrees with test pattern!

    Racist = someone who doesn’t believe “stories that my Nanna told me.”

  18. cohenite says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    “Native title is really important for recognition for our old people, but especially our young people, the future generation, so they can understand the land, the country, the people and the culture. I feel relieved that after all this time we’ve finally done it, we’ve gotten native title.”

    What a bunch of bullshit. NT is racist, divisive and a complete handbrake on the economy; none of its benefits filter through and are claimed by the aboriginal elitists.

  19. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    testpattern
    #2659752, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    Have the White Duracks died out yet, testpattern?
    That’s what often happens with people who have prospered through ill gotten gains.
    Later generations become poofs and lezzos and forget to breed.

  20. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Testes and sox is a nobody and a nothing, give him the invisibility he relishes.

  21. testpattern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    ‘Driver told me trawlers came down the Roper, filled the refrigerated semi with prawns and sent it off to Perth.’

    Good man. To Exmouth not Perth. The Minister was Nick Dondas, now in Perth, invests in tenements. Well worth extensive interviewing by NT political historians.

  22. Chris says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    Ah, that’s interesting Kev.
    I was only there twice for short times, and never went to the store. But Ted Egan stayed at the station, and wrote ‘The Urupunga Frog’ about it. They were very proud of that!

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    French president Emmanuel MacronJupiter has been hit by a rare rebellion inside his own party following a controversial new migration bill.

    The tough new immigration bill cracks down on economic migrants, meaning that rejected asylum seekers will spend longer in detention as well as the rate of deportations will increase.
    The bill, which would also make the illegal crossing of borders punishable by a year in jail, is seen as an attempt by the centrist leader to stop a resurgence of the far-right derailing his presidency.

    Mr Macron has sought to win the support of Marine Le Pen’s voting base to prevent the emergence of a similar political crisis that destablized Angela Merkel’s reign.

    Pierre Haski, a French political analyst, said that the immigration bill is a risky move for Mr Macron.

    He explained: “Voters of Le Pen haven’t disappeared. When you look at Germany, where 92 far-right were elected after the crisis, this is seen as a lesson in France.”

    In response, Mr Macron’s own En Marche party has split, with several MPs railing against the French president.

    In a fiery speech, one lawmaker, Sonia Krimi, told the French Senate: “Detention centres are becoming prisons which are unworthy of our republic.

    “All foreigners in France are not terrorists, all foreigners do not cheat with social welfare.”

  24. testpattern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    ‘Have the White Duracks died out yet’

    A very, very good question ‘Kat. They’re into other stuff these days, I would’ve jailed some of them for fraud. As for breeding, not with whistlecocked husbands.

  25. testpattern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    ‘I was only there twice for short times’

    Liar

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    The old commie Rhiannon currently in Palestine. Hope she stays there:

    What have the Palestinians ever done to deserve the old bag?

  29. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Investigating as to how nearly 200,000 migrants arrived to seek asylum last year when Germany does not border any conflict zones, surveys by the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) found around a third of new migrants report travelling by air from EU nations.

  30. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Got to feel sorry for the Greek men.
    Putting on those skirts and having reffos prefer the hairy-chinned Greek women instead.

  31. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Marcia Langton made the point in today’s paper that STIs aren’t necessarily sexually transmitted, it’s just part of living in overcrowded squalor.

    Of course, that doesn’t matter to bigots with hangups about sex and Aborigines.
    They’re buzzing around like a tin of blowflies.

  32. Winston Smith says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    ZK2A;

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    I heard this evening that BS was going to reintroduce death duties. I may have misheard, but it sounds about right. He’d call it something else, but.
    Maybe the Inheritance Equalisation Fund?

  34. Harlequin Decline says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Arky
    #2659860, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:20 pm
    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    I thought you’d prefer Ford Escort, full throttle.

  35. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    The old commie Rhiannon currently in Palestine. Hope she stays there:

    On the taxpayers dime researching a burning issue on every Australian’s lips: “I am in Beirut on my way back to Australia to find out more about the realities of life as a Palestinian refugee living in Lebanon. “

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    Marcia Langton made the point in today’s paper that STIs aren’t necessarily sexually transmitted, it’s just part of living in overcrowded squalor.

    Link?

  37. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    BDA 1800.
    I would know that sound anywhere.

  38. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    Ha, ha, yes.
    The highly credible “I caught it from a toilet seat” defence.
    Yeah …. but nah.

  39. Shy Ted says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Best movie so far this year – 12 Strong. 54% from the critics, 71% audience. Not for the faint-hearted so leave the ladies of both sexes at home.

  40. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    Marcia Langton made the point in today’s paper that STIs aren’t necessarily sexually transmitted, it’s just part of living in overcrowded squalor.

    Perhaps we could get a committee to decide on the precise definition of “sexually transmitted”…. FMD

  41. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Tesla in full flight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xEEkruL75U

  42. Winston Smith says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Zippy;

    You are invisible in real life, people walk past you as if you didn’t exist, women have never even glanced at you.

    Oh, so harsh.
    Women do glance at him, but then sniggar.

  43. None says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    This is a dilemma for me. I, with many others, encouraged Andy from the start. But now, with the Liberals proving to be so appalling – and having met and argued with the loathsome Steven Marshall – I am reluctant to give the party my vote

    we got a flyer for a Lib state senator tday. It had Turnbull’s mutt on it as well. He’s one selling point? He had delivered some billion dollar funding for health. WTF? I mean really when you have a Lib bragging that he has fleeced taxpayers to burn up another billion dollars in our useless health system (cracking under pressure if immigrants and their kids) and promising more, you know the place has gone to the dogs. I won’t be voting Libs on Saturday.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    I heard this evening that BS was going to reintroduce death duties. I may have misheard, but it sounds about right. He’d call it something else, but.
    Maybe the Inheritance Equalisation Fund?

    It wouldn’t surprise me – death duties are the sort of “politics of envy” that Bill Shorten does so well. There were some horrific stories from rural Western Australia – one where the estate was frozen, to be valued for death duties, and the grieving widow had to get as bank loan to pay for her husband’s funeral, and another where a farm that had been in the family for nearly a hundred years was sold, to pay death duties, after the successive deaths of the father of the family, then the son who had inherited.

  45. Steve trickler. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    A great piss take from the 1980’s.The USA decides to pick up the phone, and call the Office of a fictional Prime Minister.

    Phone sex at its finest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVGg_5grOTg

  46. None says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    I should add it probably doesn’t matter what I vote on Saturday as we’re in a very very very safe Labor seat. How safe? I got a robo polling call this week; it asked us to press buttons to indicate which electorate we were in; I debated fibbing but when I chose the option with my electorate it just said thank you very much and hung up. Not even a race here.

  47. Confused Old Misfit says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    STIs aren’t necessarily sexually transmitted

    And penetration isn’t necessary to produce pregnancy.
    Must be a lot of underwear gnomes around switching underwear amongst the brothers and sisters.
    I put it to you that the non-sexual transmission of what is normally a sexually transmitted infection would be very rare (but not impossible) even in overcrowded squalor.

  48. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    Putting on those skirts

    White tights?? It’s downright false advertising. And don’t start me on the shoe pompoms.

  49. Nick says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    The pompoms. Hahahaha, yeah.

  50. None says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    Death duties decimated rural families and drove many to suicide. Positively evil.

  51. None says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    Marcia Langton is one part brilliant and two parts mad. Frankly I don’t give a s*** if it’s squalor or sex. Fourteen year olds with syphilis spells crisis time to take the kids away from these hell holes.

  52. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Today’s The Australian, Zulu.
    Marcia Langton says:
    ...It is wrong to conflate the incidence of STIs with Sexual Abuse. To make this clear, it is not the case that all cases of STIs in minors are the result of sexual contact or abuse

    The rush to recommend the removal of Aboriginal children from their families is an unwarranted response, and has become the catchcry of those building their careers on serious health issues that have become salacious fodder for the media and very significant threats to developing protocols for treating these continuing disease threats to extremely vulnerable people.

    From page 12, Commentary.
    Judith Sloan has a great article above that on the insane pace of Infill Apartment Building in Sydney and Melbourne.

  53. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    I like the pom poms.
    ..
    This isn’t gay at all.

  54. feelthebern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    lol.
    STI’s are always caused by sexual contact….said the sock puppets wife.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    Exclude the boy from a whole-school photo while he was on the premises on the day in question?
    No. The teacher took a long term view of the student’s welfare. When the kid develops a brain he would regret not being part of the official record of the school and his participation.
    The teacher was more attuned to the boy’s needs than all the anti-teacher commentators.

    If the teacher had asked permission to cut the boy’s hair and the parents and school had approved of that then obviously the boy is better served by being in the photo looking half-way acceptable. If the boy is photographed with the school group as a stand-out mess neither the school nor the boy will be happy, for every other boy and their parents will point him out, to say nothing of the school’s displeasure. Kids don’t like standing out in this way. This kid will grow up and attend a barber some day and if he’s a mess in the school photo he’ll then be mortified. I’ve seen it happen. It’s best if any teacher scared of physically touching a child just uses administrative power to exclude the boy (see Arky’s caution above about touching a child in any way; advising caution is not being ‘anti-teacher’). Not every child makes it into the school photo. Some are away sick. Some are not in uniform and may be excluded. Too bad. Too bad in this case too. The fracas and loss of a loved teacher caused by the decision won’t be doing the boy any good at school right now.

  56. testpattern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    ‘They’re buzzing around like a tin of blowflies’

    Indeed they are, like seamonkeys in a feeding frenzy. Well done ‘Kat, I don’t approve of your methods but you’ve sucked the racists right in. I won’t dob.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    …It is wrong to conflate the incidence of STIs with Sexual Abuse. To make this clear, it is not the case that all cases of STIs in minors are the result of sexual contact or abuse

    I can see how that might come about when there’s 33 of you sleeping rough in the dirt in outback woop woop and you’re dreaming that you are a baby again sucking sweetly on your thumb… but then you wake up

  58. feelthebern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    From what I’ve seen today, it will be Alan Jones & the Telegraph destroying Bill Shorten on these super changes.
    The Libs don’t care.
    They are all on a sweet government super plan.

  59. feelthebern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Sock puppet gets home from a week in Thailand with a rancid case of the clap.
    Must have been the toilet seat, says he.

  60. H B Bear says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Yeah …. but nah.

    Exactly. How are Testes crew going to be sitting on a warm bus seat?

  61. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    I put it to you that the non-sexual transmission of what is normally a sexually transmitted infection would be very rare (but not impossible) even in overcrowded squalor.

    Syphilis is untreated Gonorrhea, which is a discharge of pus from the sex organs .
    If a Society Girl goes to the doctor with it, it’s called Thrush, or Leukorrhea.
    If an Aboriginal Girl get’s it, there’a hysteria abroad about how she got it.
    Untreated, it may become Syphilis, which hasn’t been a problem since Penicillin replaced Mercury as the method of treatment.

  62. RobK says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    Testpattern,
    I recently read this book:
    “Title: Darkest West Australia : a treatise bearing on the habits and customs of the Aborigines and the solution of “the native question” ; a guide to out-back travellers /​ by H.G.B. Mason.68 p., [12] leaves of plates : ill. ; 23 cm.Wilderness survival — Western Australia.Aboriginal Australians — Western Australia.Western Australia — Description and travel.
    2268100″
    It’s from 1909 and covers various aboriginal customs and cites instances of traditional homicide, infanticide and canabalism. I thought you might be interested in a first hand account of life at the time in the WA goldfields and Kimberly area.

  63. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    To make this clear, it is not the case that all cases of STIs… are the result of sexual contact

    ..
    You believed her when she told you that?
    Oh dear.
    This is going to be like that time a kid told me her cat had been sick but her parents told her it had gone to live “in the country on a cat farm”.
    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

  64. feelthebern says:
    March 13, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Sock puppet is Craig Thomson.
    It’s the only explanation.

  65. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    Leigh Lowe at 9:24 pm
    Ha, ha, yes.
    The highly credible “I caught it from a toilet seat” defence.
    Yeah …. but nah.

    A usual, Leigh, you don’t know that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    The Toilet Seat excuse is a [very suss] defence to giving the missus Crabs.

  66. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    Gonorrhea, also spelled gonorrhoea, is a sexually transmitted infection (STI) caused by the bacterium Neisseria gonorrhoeae..
    ..
    Syphilis is a sexually transmitted infection caused by the bacterium Treponema pallidum subspecies pallidum.[

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    All children in school should have sex education and STI education, and the educational material should be in their own languages. They and their parents need to be aware of the consequences of untreated STIs: infertility, mortality, brain damage and others. Other infectious diseases, such as trachoma, have been treated with similar approaches involving better co-ordination of existing services.

    The federal, Northern Territory and Queensland governments are negligent in the extreme in allowing this situation to worsen over the past 10 years. It has been reported regularly and extensively in the past decade by medical professionals from various health entities, including the Central Australian Aboriginal Congress, and the responsible ministers and officers run for cover rather than taking the necessary steps to treat children for these diseases.

    In this context, I have previously said that the complaints from some Aboriginal male leaders about being labelled universally as abusers should be ignored and the complicity of the indigenous sector in protecting their sensitivities and strange complaints that result should also be ignored.

    If they had taken positions of protecting children rather than outrage at John Howard’s nasty and ridiculous blame game in 2007, we would not have the increased rates (also greatly under-reported) that are reported now.

    Blatant denialism has contributed to this terrible situation.

    From the Oz article Nemcat referred to upthread. How do you teach the dangers of S.T.I’s at school when those most at risk probably aren’t attending school?

  68. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    Syphilis is untreated Gonorrhea

    Rubbish. Different bacterial diseases. Syphilis is spyrochete (rod or spiral) and Gonorrhea is Neisseria, the goncocus (it’s round not a spiral).. Syphilis starts with a chancre on your dick/vag (not red and not puss ridden) – apparently not even painful. Gonorrhea is puss-ridden and sore to piss in your tubes, etc. Both treated with penicillin of course, but differing amounts – neuro syphilis needs quite a lot.

  69. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    And if someone told you one lead to tother, you must have had both.

  71. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    And I believe thrush is a yeast infection.
    So not even in the ssme kingdom as the other two orgsnisms.

  72. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    Now that is an odd topic to get a “snap” on Arky.

  73. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    Ms Dolittle:
    Syphilis starts with a chancre on your dick/

    Chancre hasn’t been seen since Mercury stopped being used to treat Syphilis.
    Neither has Locomotor Ataxia. Both are symptoms of chronic Mercury exposure.

  74. Top Ender says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    Time to go Griggsie:

    Defence’s second-highest ranked officer, Vice Admiral Ray Griggs, dispatched a crack special forces commander to monitor his estranged wife Kerrie Griggs’s shift from their Defence residence, partly to ensure she left him enough sheets and kitchenware.

    The supervision, which was also due to the timing of the shift, had followed some disagreement between the couple over personal possessions at their official home, according to correspondence sighted by The Australian.

    The Australian has uncovered further details about the incident that saw the Vice Chief of the Defence Force, an ambassador for the White Ribbon charity which seeks to prevent violence against women, send his chief of staff, Colonel Craig Shortt, to act as his “representative” in Kerrie’s shift from the Duntroon house in 2015.

    Colonel Shortt, who has since been promoted to brigadier, is a battle-hardened special forces commander who had twice led the 2nd Commando Regiment, and then been the director of the military’s Special Operations and Plans, prior to being appointed as Vice Admiral Griggs’s chief of staff.

    The incident was among a number of issues associated with the 2014 break-up that prompted Kerrie to complain to the Inspector General of the Australian Defence Force (IGADF). She alleged it was inappropriate use of Vice Admiral Griggs’s staff and also queried why a woman wasn’t sent.

    The IGADF investigation found that while the move could have “been better handled” it cleared Vice Admiral Griggs of any impropriety. The IGADF found Vice Admiral Griggs had “an interest in and obligations connected with the removal of personal effects from the official residence tied to his posting as Vice Chief of the Defence Force”.

    The Australian has sighted correspondence that suggests one of Vice Admiral Griggs’s reasons for dispatching the former special forces officer related to concerns Kerrie might unfairly divide up property, especially linen and kitchenware, in the official residence.

    In 2015, he emailed her complaining that what she wanted from the property went beyond establishing a functional household, especially “a functioning kitchen”. In June 2015, while he was overseas on holiday with his new partner, Kerrie notified him of her intent to move out of the official residence.

    He emailed her saying he had appointed Shortt and a staff officer as his representatives for the move because he was overseas and he had given them an “agreed inventory”. “They are there to protect my equities as you did not afford me the time to engage a professional to do the task,’’ he said. Colonel Shortt attended the property, but left when Ms Griggs said the move was not occurring that day. The Australian does not suggest he acted inappropriately.

    Kerrie emailed her husband complaining about the “optics” of using Defence personnel on a personal matter while “you are overseas on holidays with your mistress”. Griggs emailed back saying having his staff present was justified due to goods being removed that were his. “You removed material from the house you had no right to … you repeatedly refused to confirm the kitchen and linen issues which were supposed to be agreed, not just what you chose to leave behind,” he said.

    A Defence spokesman said independent inquiries found no breach of Defence policy in this matter. He said Defence residences tied to senior commanders contain commonwealth property, which could be inadvertently damaged or packed by removalists.

    Link, and comments open for once.

  75. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    You would have to be a particularly filthy individual to have all three.

  76. Fisky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    “Libertarian” immigration policies in action –

    Orwell & Goode
    @OrwellNGoode

    In the Telford grooming gang scandal: one victim fell pregnant, gave birth at 14, and was murdered along with her mother and sister when she was 16 after her abuser set her house on fire.

    The authorities have been actively covering up these scandals.

  77. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    you must have had both.

    Exactly what Doc said!

  78. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Filthy individual! Doc reckons one thing leads another and before you know it you’ll have an NDIS.

  79. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    Science, Dolittle.
    I pick up the occassional piece of information.
    It isn’t all bunsen burners and detentions.

  80. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    Nemkat, although you have been wrong about everything you have said about STI’s, I want you to know we still consider you the foremost expert at this blog on them. Sometimes life experience overrides what the text books say.

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    Defence’s second-highest ranked officer, Vice Admiral Ray Griggs, dispatched a crack special forces commander to monitor his estranged wife Kerrie Griggs’s shift from their Defence residence, partly to ensure she left him enough sheets and kitchenware.

    Said “crack special forces commander” is a far more law-abiding person then me – I’d have finished up under open arrest for telling the Vice Admiral where to go and how to get there.

  82. Pickles says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    The abandoned prawn farm on the Roper is a great yarn.

  83. Atoms for Peace says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Bruce Willis. Last Boy Scout
    “Sure , sure, I know… it just happened. Coulda happened to anybody. It was an accident, right? You tripped, slipped on the floor and accidentally stuck your dick in my wife”

  84. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Chancre is still the primary site of infection for Treponema pallidum and is still being seen, long after mercury has been given up. The infection is still the same and still out there. Mercury poisoning for this indication since our Howard (Florey) had a good idea. There will be 1,000,000 people in the world right at this moment with a chancre (hard edges). Sadly often on the inside for women.

  85. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Google chancre – plenty of colour photography.

  86. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    You’ll find the Syphilis in these Aboriginal camps turned up on Blood Tests.
    Syphilis is common among Aborigines in the North. So is Yaws.
    The Tuskegee Experiments of 1932 proved for all time that Syphilis is not the scourge it was painted as at the time.
    The only survivors still alive to accept Bill Clinton’s Official Apology in 1998 were the men who had been treated with the placebo.
    The rest, who were treated with Mercury, were long dead.

  87. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    I’ve missed all you Cats.

  88. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    “You removed material from the house you had no right to … you repeatedly refused to confirm the kitchen and linen issues which were supposed to be agreed, not just what you chose to leave behind,” he said.

    Vice Admiral you say?
    Petty Officer more like.

  89. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    Own goal failure… unfortunate headline for Australian Broadcasting Communists
    Over 200,000 pensioners to lose money if Labor abolishes cash refunds, Chris Bowen says

    Is saying, Bowen is a prick with a smile that could be greatly enhanced with a Joker Cut, classified as Hate Speech these days…

  90. Bruce in WA says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    Maybe this would be a good soundtrack for the electric shitmobiles:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu6PJW5-vbM

  91. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    House Intel Republican contradicts panel, says Russia tried to help Trump in 2016

    Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said on Monday that “there is evidence” showing the Russians attempted to help Trump during the 2016 presidential election, contradicting a draft report from the panel.

    […]

    Rooney argued that the investigation needed to end because the committee was losing its credibility.

    “We’ve gone completely off the rails and now we are just basically a political forum for people to leak information to drive the day’s news,” Rooney said. “We’ve lost all credibility and we are going to issue probably two different reports, unfortunately.”

  92. Bruce in WA says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    I present for your delectation, the Australian Road Rules — all 323 pages of bureaucratic bumf and bullshit.

  93. Arky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    That is all very well Monty, but where do you stand on syphilis?

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Maybe this would be a good soundtrack for the electric shitmobiles:

    Thank you for reminding me why so many farmers, of my father’s generation, were deaf.

  95. notafan says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    LL

    Yes indeed

    Very Petty.

    Unless the kitchen had two of everything someone was going to miss out on a soup ladle and a kitchen knife set, besides what about the mistress, didn’t she have some stuff she could bring to the table?

  96. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    Monty, but where do you stand on syphilis?

    Over an air vent, like Marilyn Monroe.

  97. pete m says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    “all” ???

  98. Winston Smith says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    Arky;

    That is all very well Monty, but where do you stand on syphilis?

    That would be the local public dunny where the floor is squishy and frequented by members formerly known as Natures Bachelors.

  99. John Constantine says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    Shouldn’t all electronic vehicles play a constant loop of redfilth gillards misogyny speech when travelling at low speed?.

    The horn can be a blurt of Gillard proclaiming that:

    “Oi ‘ave doin noithoing wroingg”

  100. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    mUnter… Rooney the loony is a never-Trumper who made a great show of “dis-endorsing” Trump (even though this meant precisely nothing).

  101. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    More than 1000 disgruntled Trinity Grammar parents, students and alumni have voted to remove their principal and school council.
    At an extraordinary public meeting at a packed Hawthorn Town Hall on Tuesday, the influential Old Trinity Grammarians Association threatened legal action if their demands weren’t met by Friday.
    The school community almost unanimously passed a no-confidence motion against their principal Dr Michael Davies, with just 28 people opposing.

  102. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    a kitchen knife set

    He got lucky knives stayed in the block. What an arrogant prick.

  103. Armadillo says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Any Cats aware of a website that compares weather predictions to ACTUAL temperatures/rainfall results?

    I’m talking quarterly predictions, if not monthly. Best way to negate the climate scammers would be to point out how the fuckers can’t get a month, let alone in 50 years time right.

    It would be an interesting experiment to see just how accurate they are % wise.

    Oh wait, here we go….straight from the horses mouth.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/verif/

  104. cynical1 says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    Syphilis is untreated Gonorrhea, which is a discharge of pus from the sex organs .
    If a Society Girl goes to the doctor with it, it’s called Thrush, or Leukorrhea.
    If an Aboriginal Girl get’s it, there’a hysteria abroad about how she got it.

    Especially if she’s nine years old…

  105. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    Tom Rooney is most famous for claiming the Muslim Brotherhood had taken over the US government. He was dismissed as a “McCarthyist” crank by embarrassed senior GOP leaders.

  106. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment#Study_termination

    You’ll have to notice what is unsaid among the hand wringing and virtue signalling, but the takeaway is that the only survivors were the men with Syphilis who never received treatment of any kind.

  107. MsDolittle says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    More than 1000 disgruntled Trinity Grammar parents, students and alumni

    The Browning version -v- Mr Chipps.

  108. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.)

    WHo coulda thunkit, MOnstie is siding with a Jeb Neocon.

  109. egg_ says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    Can STI’s be transmitted via socks or skin suits?
    Asking for a friend.

  110. Fisky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    It’s a real mystery how white working class Americans are so in favour of the 2nd Amendment.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/13/telford-grooming-gang-whistleblowers-punished-silenced-lost-jobs/

    A police chaplain and a charity worker were forced out of their jobs and silenced after trying to raise the alarm about the grooming and rape gangs operating in the town of Telford.

    Around 1,000 victims were caught up in the scandal, which could be the worst in UK history, with the gangs operating for 40 years, drugging, beating, trafficking, and raping non-Muslim girls, some as young as 11.

  111. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    I’ve missed all you Cats.

    Missed you too, Ms. D.

  112. nemkat says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    The school community almost unanimously passed a no-confidence motion against their principal Dr Michael Davies, with just 28 people opposing.

    Out of a thousand people, only 28 are sane.

    Reminds me of reading in the paper years ago, some pervert in Western Australia was jailed for sexually abusing boys he groomed in a youth club he’d formed in a country town.
    Anyway, some of the victims’fathers told the media after the Sentencing that they’d welcome the bloke back, he was a great mentor for their boys.

  113. DrBeauGan says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    I’ve given up on nemkat. I don’t say he’s a troll or a sock, but he has a compulsion to pontificate on subjects he knows bugger all about.

  114. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    Out of a thousand people, only 28 are sane.

    No. 28 are cultural marxists. Cultural marxism is a form of criminality.

  115. egg_ says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    Grigs is a self-styled medical expert.
    The trouble with blogs is that SMEs are often lurking, in the case of poseurs.

  116. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    If the men of Telford had any balls, they would abduct the senior police, local government and magistratical figures who endorsed and enabled the Muslim rape jihad and publicly flog them with ratans. They should, at the very least, be beaten in the street.

    As shocking as the rapes are, it’s more shocking that native white men apparently don’t care.
    They need to Cronulla up.

  117. cohenite says:
    March 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    I’m talking quarterly predictions, if not monthly. Best way to negate the climate scammers would be to point out how the fuckers can’t get a month, let alone in 50 years time right.

    It would be an interesting experiment to see just how accurate they are % wise.

    Oh wait, here we go….straight from the horses mouth.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/verif/

    The BoM couldn’t predict it’s arse:

    http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/04/doubling-dud-projections/

    http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/flawed-cherry-picking-bom.html

  118. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    I’ve given up on nemkat. I don’t say he’s a troll or a sock, but he has a compulsion to pontificate on subjects he knows bugger all about.

    Intellectual laziness and shallowness is the hallmark of one ripe for socialist indoctrination.

  119. Fisky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    West Mercia Police
    Verified account
    @WMerciaPolice

    More
    We’re working with partners to support National Child Sexual Exploitation Awareness Day (18 March) – http://www.tell-someone.org has more info on the signs to look out for and what to do #tellsomeone #CSEDay18

    Oh good idea, just tell the cops if you come across a grooming episode. Don’t worry, you’ll only lose your job and be jailed for “hate speech”!

  120. dover_beach says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    A police chaplain and a charity worker were forced out of their jobs and silenced after trying to raise the alarm about the grooming and rape gangs operating in the town of Telford.

    This is the regime that is detaining and refusing entry to right-wing Youtubers. What a disgusting turd the urban bugman class of the UK are; probably the worst in the Anglosphere.

  121. Fisky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    As shocking as the rapes are, it’s more shocking that native white men apparently don’t care.
    They need to Cronulla up.

    The Pakis and Bengalis who form these grooming gangs are not stupid – they mostly prey on white working class girls with absent or weak fathers who have drunk themselves into oblivion.

  122. Fisky says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    Once again, it’s really really odd how white Americans are so pro-gun. Totally impossible to fathom!

  123. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    The Pakis and Bengalis who form these grooming gangs are not stupid – they mostly prey on white working class girls with absent or weak fathers who have drunk themselves into oblivion.

    They also know how to play the race/religion card if any angry father or brother does “have a go.”

  124. Bruce in WA says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    Your ABC dollars at work.

    How clever; how erudite; such good value for taxpayer dollars.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hldkj7pBPAs

    Gutless pricks turned off comments.

  125. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:22 pm

    That is all very well Monty, but where do you stand on syphilis?

    Far away.

  126. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:27 pm

    In unrelated health news, I have barely eaten the past two days as I have been experiencing some serious kidney stone twinges. Drinking water like a fish, but the pain has been getting worse and is now spiking up from a dull ache. I can feel a 3am trip to emergency in my near future. 🙁

  127. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:28 pm

    I thought you had the stone removed, Mont.

  128. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:31 pm

    The previous one broke down by itself into gravel and was passed, CL, suggesting it was a uric acid one rather than calcium (no tests, just speculation). I hope this one responds to erosion as well. Bit of a worry that the pain has been on both sides this time.

  129. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:33 pm

    Don’t have a link at the moment, but the front page of tomorrow’s Oz is running with the story that Whining William’s shenanigans, about dividend imputation, will soak everyone, NOT just the “big end of town.”

    Any halfway competent Government would have had these clowns on toast. FMS

  130. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:35 pm

    Sorry to hear that, Mont. Maybe you should head to emergency now and get it over with.

  131. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:37 pm

    My experience with emergency is that they prioritise you according to your pain level. If I rock up with 2/10 pain they will tell me to FRO, and rightfully so. Has to be at least a 6 or 7 to get their attention.

  132. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:39 pm

    I don’t believe Russia had anything to do with those nerve agent attacks.
    It’s become very convenient for intelligence agencies to blame Russia for anthing and everything. As I observed last week, it’s now possible for Mi6 or the CIA to kill anybody and blame it on Putin.
    I note that Moscow’s request for nerve agent samples from the crime have been refused by Whitehall.
    Suspicious and odd.

  133. Steve trickler. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:43 pm

    Fun and games.

    Verhofstadt talking shit for 5 minutes. Farage at 5:19, kicks in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuL0VOyhBYc

  134. C.L. says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:43 pm

    OK. What a pain, literally.

  135. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:45 pm

    Tillerson out as SoS, Pompeo in.

    Adults in charge LOL.

  136. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    I don’t believe Russia had anything to do with those nerve agent attacks.

    Coincidentally, Tillerson made strong statements to the contrary, and he just got boned by Trump. Curious.

  137. m0nty says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:50 pm

    Well, at least that Republican dude in the Pennsylvania election gets clear air today.

  138. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 13, 2018 at 11:58 pm

    My experience with emergency is that they prioritise you according to your pain level. If I rock up with 2/10 pain they will tell me to FRO, and rightfully so. Has to be at least a 6 or 7 to get their attention.

    Private hospitals are usually far quicker, unless they get an overflow from public. But then you’ll have to pay…

  139. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:02 am

    Tillerson gone?

    Trump goes through staff like they are porn stars.

  140. Tom says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:03 am

    What Monty said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 13m13 minutes ago

    Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job! Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service! Gina Haspel will become the new Director of the CIA, and the first woman so chosen. Congratulations to all!

    The misogynist commander in chief has put a chick in charge of the CIA!

  141. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:04 am

    T-Rex fired because he supports Iran deal.

    Trump loves drama. I think he would sail directly into a storm just for shits and giggles.

  143. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:06 am

    Bit of a worry that the pain has been on both sides this time.

    Non-identical twins. Ectopic. You’re doomed. And JC claimed you are a lesbian. For once you wish he was right.

  144. m0nty says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:09 am

    Hmm Snoopy, I think a kidney stone would be ectopic only if it was not in the kidney or urinary tract. If I had one in my armpit, that would be quite something. I’ll let you know.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:16 am

    Private hospitals are usually far quicker, unless they get an overflow from public. But then you’ll have to pay…

    My late father was in and out of casualty departments for eighteen months before he died. I wouldn’t keep pigs in the casualty department of Royal Perth Hospital, but the money we paid for a private hospital was worth every penny.

  146. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:16 am

    I have been getting into Peterson videos this week. He is highly addictive and I can now see what the big deal is. I was under the impression he was Milo meets Tony Robbins and I was dead wrong.

    The Peterson & Paglia interview is one of the best things I’ve watched. Hard to believe that two people discussing neo-Marxism, post modernism, Derrida, Foucault, Jung et al could keep your attention for 2 hours.

  147. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:21 am

    The misogynist commander in chief has put a chick in charge of the CIA!

    In socialist lalaland if you want to fuck women it means you hate them, so obviously the ideal socialist man musn’t want to fuck women….

  148. H B Bear says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:26 am

    What a fat, flabby, soft-handed man child that Tom Ballard is. Where did Googles G find him and what diversity boxes does he tick?

  149. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:34 am

    What a fat, flabby, soft-handed man child that Tom Ballard is. Where did Googles G find him and what diversity boxes does he tick?

    Flabby bottom bandit.

    One day they will hire a comedian.

  150. m0nty says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:35 am

    President Trump’s personal assistant was fired Monday, The Wall Street Journal reported.

    John McEntee on Monday was escorted out of the White House, according to two senior administration officials.

    He was escorted from the White House because of an “unspecified security issue,” the Journal reported, citing a third White House official.

    The Trump campaign announced on Tuesday that McEntee is rejoining the campaign as a senior adviser.

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told the Journal that “we don’t comment on personnel issues.”

    According to the Journal, it is not clear why McEntee was fired.

    “It’s not going to be great for morale,” one White House official said about his leaving.

    McEntee has been working with Trump since the early days of his presidential campaign.

    In his role in the White House, McEntee did tasks such as giving the president messages and making sure the clocks were correctly set for daylight-saving time.

    According to the Journal, he was not allowed to gather his belongings before being escorted out of the White House.

    You can’t even get a job changing the clocks in this White House without being such a security risk that you get frogmarched out.

  151. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:36 am

    I’m watching Gary Oldham, as Winston Churchill, in “Darkest Hour.”

    The scriptwriter included the crack about Churchill being about his ablutions , when a messenger knocked on the door, and informed him that the Lord Privy Seal wished to see him.

    Churchill, who detested the Lord Privy Seal, replied that he was sealed to his privy, and could only deal with one shit at a time….

  152. H B Bear says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:38 am

    Figures. ALPBC comedy is so bad it could have been written by Testes.

  153. m0nty says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:38 am

    Note: McEntee is described elsewhere as Trump’s “body man”. He specialises in trick shots with pigskin, if you know what I mean. Perhaps the “messages” in that story was a typo and it was supposed to be “massages”?

  154. Rae says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:45 am

    Rae at 7:54 pm
    As it is conception in rape is relatively rare but even so most women opt to keep any child and what they find is that the child’s unconditional love becomes a channel of healing for them.

    Really? Can you share some documented evidence of this?

    Course not.
    It’s just some bullshit she made up to try and win a stupid argument.

    It’s not bullshite.

    I didn’t say it was. You have joined my comment to a comment by someone else.

  155. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:47 am

    Bush and Obama had very stable Whitehouses and they were disasters.

    Firing people randomly keeps everyone on their game.

  156. m0nty says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:51 am

    Firing people randomly keeps everyone on their game.

    Good idea. Sinc should fire Kates to send a message.

  157. Tom says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:51 am

    What a fat, flabby, soft-handed man child that Tom Ballard is.

    A perfect allegory for Australia: a smartarse shemale dominated by and subservient to the vaginas of the ruling class.

    Plus he’s an ABC “comedian”, which tells you he is as funny as cancer.

  158. Rae says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:55 am

    Yeah, but no. Digital Native, too young to be on a pension, every day (pretty much) is a workday, not employed in the public sector, pay lots of tax (personal income tax and tax on the SMSF).

    But you have been employed by the public sector at some stage.

    No. Never.

  159. Rae says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:01 am

    So my student daughter, who pays no tax, inherited some shares from her grandmother and gets $90 twice a year in dividends. This will be denied her? At the very least these dollars could be used to reduce her HECS?

    The proposal will not affect your daughters dividends.

  160. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:03 am

    Good idea. Sinc should fire Kates to send a message.

    Kates would just keep turning up… with an empty brief case full of newspaper clippings and a peanut butter sandwich.

  161. Stimpson J. Cat says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:13 am

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 13m13 minutes ago
    Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job! Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service! Gina Haspel will become the new Director of the CIA, and the first woman so chosen. Congratulations to all!

    What the f$ck is going on?
    I turn off the internet for a few hours and sh$t goes berserk.

    A wamen?
    A Goddamn wamen in a pantsuit is running the f$cking spooks?

    What the f$ckity f$ck is going on here? *

    *Hol up Hol up.
    I’ve changed my mind.
    I know who she is now.
    She’s the Waterboard Woman.

  162. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:21 am

    Tillerson found out he was fired via Twitter.

    That is cold.

  163. The Beer Whisperer says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:22 am

    A voice from 1897 compares the Turkish genocide of Armenians with –

    FFS, Detesticle, the Turks killed more Armenians than the entire population of aborigines in Australia today, let alone when whitey arrived.

    And you quote some dubious story of a handful being mistreated.

    You really are a detesticle human being.

  164. m0nty says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:27 am

    Tillerson found out he was fired via Twitter.

    That is cold.

    No, that is just chickenshit by Trump, yet again. He hasn’t got the guts to tell Tillerson to his face. As with most of his firings.

  165. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:28 am

    Infidel Tiger
    #2660058, posted on March 14, 2018 at 1:03 am

    Good idea. Sinc should fire Kates to send a message.

    Kates would just keep turning up… with an empty brief case full of newspaper clippings and a peanut butter sandwich.

    But how thick are the samiches?

  166. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:35 am

    Rae,

    At what Taxation rate do you think Australian companies should be leveyed?

  167. Infidel Tiger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:37 am

    No, that is just chickenshit by Trump, yet again. He hasn’t got the guts to tell Tillerson to his face. As with most of his firings.

    Apparently he told Rex to come home Friday, Rex found out he was getting boned harder than Stormy so he dropped the Russia bomb, Don lost his shit and fired him over twitter.

    We are in good hands.

  168. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:47 am

    I thought Trump had sacked everyone

  169. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:49 am

    I work for CNN and have the inside knowledge of what’s happening.

  170. C.L. says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:51 am

    Greg Sheridan calls for invasion of Russia or something:

    West must get tough on Russia

    11:00PM GREG SHERIDAN
    This is a moment when every democratic nation should stand together.

  171. Stimpson J. Cat says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:55 am

    West must get tough on Russia

    They really want a war, don’t they?
    Can’t we just say they have weapons of mass destruction again?

  172. C.L. says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:56 am

    Arnold Schwarzenegger has finally gone bonkers, announces law suit against oil.
    Yes, oil.

    Speaking to Politico during the SXSW festival in Texas, Schwarzenegger said that he will be mounting a lawsuit against oil companies “for knowingly killing people all over the world.”

    “This is no different from the smoking issue,” Schwarzenegger said. “The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill.”

    “If you walk into a room and you know you’re going to kill someone, it’s first degree murder; I think it’s the same thing with the oil companies,” he said.

  173. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:58 am

    But what gets me is that the head of the FBI, at the time, flew to Russia with a sample of Uranium One.

    What’s his name, Mueller.

    And the fuck that screams at Trump, wussia, wussia, wussia, voted for the American Communist for President.

    What’s his name.

    CLAPPER

    And the prick that made sure no Muslim Filth reference in any CIA nor FBI was called Brennan!

    Far outsky.

    Can we trust any ASIO or DFAT pack of pricks?

  174. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:00 am

    I want to smack the living daylights out of poofter Greg Sheridan

  175. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:13 am

    Hey “Billy Bob” Shorten what do you think Australia should do about Muslim Indonesia that kills Christians?

    You know, aceh you labor without U prick

  176. Boris says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:19 am

    I don’t believe Russia had anything to do with those nerve agent attacks.

    Over the years CL made many strong claims but this one easily tops it all by a mile.

  177. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:19 am

    Shouldn’t Australia just send some planes over to blow the fark out of muslim crap in arceh wich is where the shit goes up in to the Philippines.

  178. Boris says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:20 am

    Cranks’ love of Putin shows no bounds.

  179. Boris says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:22 am

    Conservatives used to make the strongest stands against KGB. Not anymore 🙁

  180. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:23 am

    Fark off Boris

    I want to know what the useless DFAT is going to do about muslim scum on the South end of the Philippines when the animal pricks are coming out of Aceh.

    If you have no contribution then fark off.

  181. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:24 am

    Boris

    I will blow the Russians to farking its bitsy pieces.

  182. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:27 am

    I will make sure that every farking ruski mosk will be blown apart.

    If you keep your shit up I will make sure the ortho’s are on the list as well.

    Now back off.

  183. Boris says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:29 am

    If you keep your shit up I will make sure the ortho’s are on the list as well.

    Now back off.

    Only when I see the result.

  184. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:29 am

    Russia is a lawless land.

    There is no such thing as law courts but merely the one with the gun.

  185. Boris says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:32 am

    “This is no different from the smoking issue,” Schwarzenegger said. “The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill.”

    WAW. What a monumental stupidity. Looks like he has too much cash, and wants to part conpany with some of it.

  186. None says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:33 am

    Administrative Appeals Tribunal saves fake gay Christian from deportation.
    A MUSLIM Iraqi father of seven who tried to avoid deportation by pretending to be a gay Christian has been allowed to stay in Australia.

    In the Herald Sun (paywalled). I can’t read the article but can the AAT really override the minister? Really? That is wrong.

    Key question: WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE PARASITES WHO INSULT MY FAITH AND STEAL FROM MY FAMILY?

  187. classical_hero says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:38 am

    Only 16 mass shootings were stopped. That’s not even 1 a year. Just shows gun crime was never a problem in Australia. We’re seeing more gun crime now. So much for protecting people.

  188. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:38 am

    None
    #2660086, posted on March 14, 2018 at 2:33 am

    Administrative Appeals Tribunal saves fake gay Christian from deportation.
    A MUSLIM Iraqi father of seven who tried to avoid deportation by pretending to be a gay Christian has been allowed to stay in Australia.

    In the Herald Sun (paywalled). I can’t read the article but can the AAT really override the minister? Really? That is wrong.

    Key question: WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE PARASITES WHO INSULT MY FAITH AND STEAL FROM MY FAMILY?

    Rule of the gun will fix it.

    Find out the pooftas name.

  189. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:40 am

    Schwarzenegger is gay

  190. classical_hero says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:41 am

    Why do we have the AAT in the first place?

  191. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:42 am

    classical_hero
    #2660087, posted on March 14, 2018 at 2:38 am

    Only 16 mass shootings were stopped.

    That is crap

    It was 36 mass shootings that were stopped.

  192. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:47 am

    classical_hero
    #2660090, posted on March 14, 2018 at 2:41 am

    Why do we have the AAT in the first place?

    Because you cannot rely upon a ‘public servant’ to tell you the truth.

  193. None says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:47 am

    Why do we have the AAT in the first place?

    a. Because of incompetent public servants
    b. Because public servants are above the law
    c. Because beneficiaries of mandatorily enforced public largesse are above the law.
    d. Because the public are only there to provide the largesse

  194. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:50 am

    What happened to the ATO blokes kids who stole money?

  195. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 2:54 am

    Judith

    Can we wipe out Non Profit category?

  196. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:00 am

    Judith

    I am sick to death of all these so called environmental ngo’s getting money from overseas to influence Australian elections.

  197. OneWorldGovernment says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:08 am

    The Eureka Flag has nothing to do with poofta unions.

    It is about Australians fighting against excessive taxation as “Billy Bob” Shorten and his Green Watermelon mates would want to impose on you.

    Fuck the so called unions who want to control and destroy Australia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Flag#/media/File:Theeurekaflag.jpg

  198. Tintarella di Luna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:29 am

    The Peterson & Paglia interview is one of the best things I’ve watched. Hard to believe that two people discussing neo-Marxism, post modernism, Derrida, Foucault, Jung et al could keep your attention for 2 hours.

    Congratulations Infidel Tiger. I have yet to enjoy the Paglia/Peterson interview but really enjoyed the Dias/Peterson interview

  200. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:31 am

    Mekhong is mother’s milk.

  201. classical_hero says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:33 am

    1wg, it’s still a small number either way. How did it cost to do the scheme?

  202. None says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:33 am

    M0nty, hope you are OK.

  203. classical_hero says:
    March 14, 2018 at 3:41 am

    The autists at 4chan have identified the cowards who attacked Tommy Robinson. Bravo.

  204. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:14 am

    CANONSBURG, Pa. (Reuters) – Republicans are scrambling to avoid a political embarrassment in a conservative district of Pennsylvania, where a pro-gun, pro-union Democrat who opposes abortion could be about to win a congressional election in one of President Donald Trump’s white, working-class strongholds.

    Democrat Conor Lamb, a 33-year-old Marine veteran and former federal prosecutor, is in a dead heat with Republican state Representative Rick Saccone

    Clever preselection.

  205. Tom says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:15 am

    Mark Knight on Ed Sheeran’s impromptu laneway performance in Melbournibad.

  214. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:32 am

    TheirABC:

    Perth has recorded its hottest day in more than a year, with the maximum temperature climbing to 38.5 degrees Celsius at 2:27pm.

    And some here are global warming sceptics. Shame.

  215. classical_hero says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:38 am

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2016/03/interest-free-loans-for-asylum-seekersrefugees-to-fly-familyfriends-here-repayable-via-centrelink-so.html

    So much for dots idea. Just get a no-interest loan for the travel. You can even pay directly from your centrelink payments. Talk about a scam on the Australian people.

  216. None says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:44 am

    How did I miss this yesterday?

    Nick Xenophon is facing an uphill battle for the South Australian seat of Hartley, according to the latest Advertiser/Galaxy Newspoll. Figures show the incumbent Liberal MP Vincent Tarzia has remained solid on 38 per cent of the vote since the last poll in October, while the SA-BEST leader has seen his support fall by 5 per cent. The figures indicate Nick Xenophon will need to rely on preferences to claim the seat, but both The Greens and Australian Conservatives have given priority to the Liberal Party.

    Make it so SA. About time you frigging woke up to that fraud Xenophon. I hope to god too that there is no way that Xenophon can reverse his resignation from federal senate like idiot child Turnbull did with his resignation from the reps.

  217. None says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:48 am

    OK I am missing the Turnbull mammogram reference. Probably because I need coffee.

  218. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:55 am

    Just get a no-interest loan for the travel. You can even pay directly from your centrelink payments. Talk about a scam on the Australian people.

    The International Organisation for Migration is a George Soros fan. What are the odds?

  219. johanna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 5:11 am

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2659237, posted on March 13, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Tolkien stated, quite explicitly, that the Lord of the Rings was not allegorical. And he lived through WWI.

    I know that. Others still claim it to be allegorical in its ‘good’ vs ‘evil’ account.
    I read someone claiming it to be a foretelling of Nazism. As I said: this, that and the other.

    As Maggie Thatcher famously asked, who are these ‘others?’

    What a load of tosh, typical of your intellectual flabbiness.

    Why raise something which is simply wrong? Is it to make yourself more interesting, or ‘transgressive’, or something? Could it be your insatiable desire to be the centre of attention?

    BTW, just been re-reading C P Snow’s admirable ‘Corridors of Power’ (1964) – yep, he coined the term. It is about how a potential contender for PM came unstuck because he fell in love with what most people would describe as a mousey little woman. His wife was rich and well connected, and used every ounce of her energy to promote his career.

    Keep going to the dance classes!

  220. johanna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 5:40 am

    EvilElvis
    #2659269, posted on March 13, 2018 at 10:39 am

    …especially with a bit of soft porn for the old blokes.

    Us young fellas go for a bit of that to, Johanna. I could easily be swayed to your thinking with just a hint of sauciness and a dash of Mills & Boon. 😉

    You and areff should get together – trying to take myself down to Princess Lizzie’s level with a bit of soft porn.

    BTW, I do appreciate the joke, Elvis. 🙂

    But, a lady never tells, so I don’t. Unlike Our Princess, who recently revealed that she and her unfortunate husband had mutually satisfactory sex three times a week. According to her.

    Stay classy, hun!

  221. hzhousewife says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:31 am

    Garrison #2 needs updating – wipe Comey and insert Tillerson.

  222. Anthony says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:33 am

    If Tillerson only found out he was sacked via twitter, it only goes to show how ill-equipped he was for the position in the first place.

  223. Shy Ted says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:34 am

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2659718, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    Can anyone tell me why ‘kava‘ is banned in the Northern Australian Communities?
    Or in any Australian Aboriginal Community?
    The “dry” NT communities quickly adopted kava as a replacement. Nothing more than a replacement intoxicant. Aboriginal people drank it from their first waking hour til they fell over drunk. Also an appetite suppressant so as mum or dad didn’t feel hungry why would the kids feel hungry? Many, many cases of “failure to thrive” which simply means neglect and IMHO it didn’t matter what the drug was, alcohol, kava, cannabis, the parents and many of the kids spend their whole days, weeks, months, years intoxicated and quite unable to function in a responsible manner. And they did what drunk people do – fight and f**k. Many thought kava saw a reduction in violence but again IMHO it didn’t improve the lot of the children. It was also a complete cash economy so those in the supply chain were making serious $$ and government didn’t get their cut. The sad fact is that 99.5% of Aboriginal people in remote areas and the majority of the towns are brain damaged. Alcohol, kava, syphilis, smoking, petrol sniffing, head injuries, malnutrition, neglect, the list is almost endless and most have lifestyles endlessly seeking out their favourite substance. But for the majority the damage is present at birth due to mum’ lifestyle and essentially continued from an early age. Why was kava banned? It’s all a bureaucracy can do.

  224. Tintarella di Luna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:43 am

    The ABC’s ill-equipped intellectual-midget Tom Bollocks interviews Professor Jordan B Peterson – count the leftist memes he dangles and gets no bite – still a sad pathetic twink at 28.

  225. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:50 am

    Firing people randomly keeps everyone on their game.

    Good idea. Sinc should ban mUnter to send a message.

  226. johanna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:53 am

    Just watched the video of Hillary Clinton falling down the steps in India.

    In fairness, I could have done the same, stone cold sober. I have arthritis in one knee, and it tends to collapse under me when going downhill. I have had exactly Hillary’s experience.

    The real question is – why not just say so? There are millions of Americans with dicky knees, and many more who know them. Why not just fess up?

    If it was Donald Trump, he would have had his X rays up on Youtube, and cracked a few jokes along the way.

    Hillary and her believers just don’t get it, never will.

  227. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:55 am

    I’m no fan of ABC comedy (I have never heard of Tom Ballard until yesterday) but I thought he was simply being self-deprecating and acting as a good natured foil to JP.

  228. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:58 am

    Good idea. Sinc should ban mUnter to send a message.

    A good punt might dislodge Monty’s kidney stones.

  229. stackja says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:00 am

    Leggings in and pork pies out of latest inflation basket

    Women’s leggings and mashed potato will now be used instead of pork pies and lager sold in nightclubs to help calculate the cost of living in the UK.

    The changes are part of the Office for National Statistics’ (ONS) annual review of the basket of goods used to measure the UK’s inflation rate.

    Quiche, action cameras and soft play sessions have also been added.

    The price movements of 700 goods and services are measured in 20,000 UK outlets to calculate inflation.

  230. feelthebern says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:01 am

    Trump & Cohn go their separate ways.
    Now Trump & Tillerson go their separate ways.
    Trump puts a real grub from the CIA in the Sec State role.
    Trump promotes a real GW Bush grub from inside the CIA to the top job.
    Mattis will have his work cut out stopping something really stupid happening.

  231. Snoopy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:04 am

    Women’s leggings and mashed potato

    The English Rose 2018 edition. Active wear and instant mashed potato.

  232. Tintarella di Luna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:04 am

    I thought he was simply being self-deprecating and acting as a good natured foil to JP.

    Worked a treat, you are very kind Snoopy, I may be a touch intolerant and need to smarten myself up on that score I let my fed-up-edness get the better of me. At least Tom didn’t use the “so what you’re saying” rubric

  233. 132andBush says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:11 am

    Jordan Peterson at Queens University

    WTWT.
    It’s rather chilling when the window banging starts and just keeps going. Petersons remarks are a wake up call.

  234. johanna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:12 am

    Now I’m thinking more about witches:

    Of course you are, our resident Princess of little brain but much cunning in attracting gullible men.

    You have previously called me a witch. Well, boo to you, Hun. Have you picked up on a fashionable wave yet again?

    Don’t forget to let us know when the syrupy sludge that you describe as literature gets out into the marketplace, and how it compares with Peter Temple’s numerous successes.

    For late readers, I mentioned that I am currently re-reading Temple’s The Broken Shore, a magnificent book.

    I said that Temple went back again and again and again, like The Cure, stripping out adjectives and adverbs. The the authors of verbal slurry like Our Lizzie, this is indeed an affront.

  235. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:15 am

    Bill Shorten’s tax grab to affect the lowest incomes

    More than 610,000 Australians on the lowest annual incomes stand to lose an average of $1200 a year in tax refunds under Bill Shorten’s proposal to abolish cash rebates for tax credits on shares held by retirees, investors and ordinary taxpayers.

    The Australian can reveal that Treasury analysis of official tax data figures shows the largest group of people to be hit by Labor’s $59 billion tax grab will be those receiving annual incomes of less than $18,200, the majority of whom receive the Age Pension.

    The government responded by accusing Labor of stealing from pensioners and retirees in what it declared was a “brutal and cruel” tax grab aimed at funding the ­Opposition Leader’s “reckless spending” agenda.

    In a further blow to Labor’s claims that the scrapping of the refund scheme would hit only the wealthy, the Treasury analysis reveals that only 5000 individuals on incomes of more than $180,000 a year will lose the cash refunds for excess tax credits.

    Former treasurer Peter Cost­ello, the architect of the refund system in 2001, attacked the plan, claiming it would hit low-income earners and risk upending two decades of bipartisan tax policy.

    “This will affect millions of retirees, age pensioners and part pensioners — this is a tax rise for them,” Mr Costello said.

    GRAPHIC: What Labor’s tax proposal means

    The total hit to people on salaries under $87,000 is estimated to be $2.2bn, or about 86 per cent of the total paid out to individuals ­eligible for a cash refund from the ATO when claiming imputation credits that exceed their annual tax liabilities.

    The loss of income averaged over the total pool paid to about one million individuals was estimated to range from an average of $1200 a year up to $5000.

    The total number of people ­estimated to be affected could be as high as 1.5 million, with about 550,000 members of self-­managed super funds also at risk of losing a median income stream of up to $5000 a year.

    Labor, scrambling to defend the policy after Mr Shorten unveiled the plan in a speech to the Chifley Institute in Sydney, claimed it would return $59bn to the budget over 10 years and hit only wealthy ­individuals and self-managed super funds. Mr Shorten flagged the prospect of using the additional revenue to pass on further “tax relief” for low and middle-income earners and linked the measure to a new multi-billion-dollar scheme allowing businesses to deduct 20 per cent of their investment in assets over $20,000 from July 2020. Branded the Australian ­Investment Guarantee, the scheme is estimated to cost $10.3bn over the decade.

    “What we’re doing is we’re clearing the decks to make sure that we have a stronger budget position, to make sure that we can fund our schools and hospitals, and to make sure that we can offer tax relief for low and middle-­income Australians,” Mr Shorten said.

    Opposition Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen said the cost of refunding the dividend imputation credits had become unsustainable, ballooning out from $550 million in the 2001 budget — when the measure was introduced — to more than $6bn a year.

    “It costs now $6bn a year and is projected to rise to more than $8bn a year, more than the commonwealth government spends on public schools or on childcare,” Mr Bowen said. “That’s why David Murray found in the Financial Systems Inquiry that it was a very significant fiscal drag.”

    The plan came under attack from the super industry, pensioner groups and the government, which claimed that in addition to low-income individuals who stood to lose, 3.5 million superannuation fund accounts could also be hit.

    Financial Services Council chief executive Sally Loane warned that “constantly changing the rules and hitting retirees hardest will only undermine the purpose of superannuation, leaving more people reliant on a taxpayer-funded retirement”.

    Her warning was supported by Self-Managed Super Fund Association chief executive John ­Maroney, who warned it could lead to a “shift in superannuation fund investment strategies”.

    “Funds seeking yield to deliver retirement income, especially SMSFs which are paying income streams, would need to shift their asset allocation towards investments which can provide ­increased yield,” he said. “This may lead to funds having to shift to a higher risk asset allocation in the retirement phase.”

    With the Turnbull government still feeling the effects of an electoral backlash to its own tax changes to superannuation two years ago, Scott Morrison framed a pre-budget attack on Labor as wanting to impose a tax rise on millions of Australians while raiding their pension funds.

    “This is a tax smack on more than a million Australians, including 230,000 pensioners,” the Treasurer told The Australian.

    He lashed the Labor policy on equity grounds, warning it would allow the well-off to continue to realise the value of their franking credits fully while disadvantaging those who paid little or no tax.

    “For those on low incomes, they get a refund when their tax rate is set at a level which means they didn’t get the full value of those credits, and it goes back to that fundamental fairness point — why should you and I get the full value of a franking credit and a part pensioner does not?” he told Sky News.

    Revenue Minister Kelly O’Dwyer said the Treasury analysis of official tax office data “revealed that the true impact will be on retirees and pensions with modest retirement incomes, not high-income earners”.

    The Treasury analysis obtained by The Australian shows the largest group to be affected are the 610,000 people on incomes of less than $18,200 a year. This group represented $500m in total refunds. On average they stood to lose $1200 a year.

    The second largest group to be impacted are those on annual taxable incomes of between $18,201 and $37,000, of which there are 360,000 who receive franking credit refunds. This amounted to $800m a year in refunds, or an ­average of $2200 a year

    A further 120,000 will lose $600m worth of refunds, based on taxable incomes of between $37,001 and $87,000, with some losing up to $5000 a year in income.

    Only 5000 people on incomes of $180,000 or higher would be affected, representing just $100m paid out by the ATO.

    A further 30,000 on taxable incomes of between $97,001 and $180,000 a year would lose $200m in refunds.

  236. 132andBush says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:15 am

    I thought he was simply being self-deprecating and acting as a good natured foil to JP.

    The hammer and sickle bit was snide.
    The insinuation being Peterson sees commies everywhere and is therefore a nutter.

  237. Bruce of Newcastle says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:16 am

    As Trump drops another bombshell it turns out that today is the anniversary of the first dropping of Barnes Wallis’ Grand Slam:

    WATCH: Shocking footage shows RAF dropping an 11 ton bomb on Germany in World War 2

    This is one for military history Cats: it has a good newsreel video of the viaduct attack including impact of several Tallboys.

  238. 132andBush says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:19 am

    Skip to 21:30 in the above video for the start of the window hammering.

  239. Tel says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:19 am

    I know who she is now.
    She’s the Waterboard Woman.

    That’s Madam Waterboard Woman to you.

    For good friends, Ma Board is OK.

  240. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:25 am

    Bill Shorten’s tax grab to affect the lowest incomes

    From the Comments

    – Yet another Shorten gift to the Turnbull Liberal party. Watch tthem squander it or shoot themselves in the foot as a result. Imagine what Abbott could do on the case, day after day geeting a basic mantra across about Labor stealing your savings.

    – As the saying goes, when Labor see’s a pot of someone else’s money…

    – Turnbull cannot believe his luck. He may just have fluked his way back into the Lodge.

    – That’s if he can get out of bed and actually challenge Bill Shorten on this issue.

    Up to now I haven’t heard a ‘peep’ from him.

    – The billions pumped into education has resulted in lower test scores. STOP SPENDING

    – Kindergarten arithmetic shows that taxing the same dollar earned twice will absolutely raise more tax revenue. But, Bill, lets not stop ether !…..why not tax that dollar three time?? After all those rich people can afford it !

    – Today, Bill Shorten wants to raise $59bn from people from all walks of life. From Gina Rinehart right down to the old age pensioner who goes out in a rowboat every morning to catch a fish for lunch – they will all be paying the new Tax Bill.

    One other thing – Chris Bowen is going to use the money as an election war-chest, not to pay off debt. So you can safely assume the money will be thrown into welfare-based election bribes and not job-creating infrastructure projects. Kevin07, here we go again.

    – Labour is up to its old tricks again. It is unite clear that Labour if they win government will again cause the deficit of their own making in the past to balloon to impossible levels . Forgive me but history shows that Labour in government could not even organise the proverbial in a brewery

    – Sounds like this taxation thought bubble from Bill Shorten is about as well researched as Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard’s ill-fated mining tax.

    The Labor party – addicted to spending, and like a shifty bookmaker, always on the lookout for new and novel ways to relieve the punters of their ‘hard earned’.

    – Shorten’s policies are largely built around class hatred. He remains in a 1970s time warp when unions were king. His is a tax the rich strategy. It is 1970s undergraduate stuff. Turnbull is cast as a toff living at Point Piper. Under this model the rich and successful are to be despised if they don’t appear socialist enough in their thinking. Shorten tries to appeal to the whingers and those in our society who have a chip on their shoulder. Many are the ones who dodged hard work at school and cruised into a life revolving around welfare. We have a generous welfare safety net. Many used to be factory fodder but the factories have largely disappeared. No one wants to pick fruit anymore. Too hard. Taxis are driven mainly by hard working migrants. Have you noticed that our toilets and shopping centres are cleaned by hard working migrants? Where are the locals? This whingeing class are very picky about certain jobs these days. Centrelink is their preferred option. Quite a few consume copious amounts of grass and other drugs and wonder why they can’t cope with a 9-5 routine. Shorten’s problem trying to sell a 1970s trade union message along class battlelines is the simple fact that modern Australian workplaces have moved on beyond the capitalist-worker paradigm. We have chosen not to be in trade unions anymore and have been appalled by some recent scandals. In short, Bill Shorten and Labor’s policies are backward looking and out of kilter with those who choose to work hard and succeed.

    – spot on analysis. Most normal Aussies living and working in the real world would agree with you.

    – I don’t feel Bill really hates anything – everything is negotiable or changeable if it suits Bill’s agenda to further Bill.

    – A CEO earning $4Million per annum will retain imputation credit benefits…. but a pensioner earning $28k per annum from Super will lose the imputation credit benefit. How is that fair, Mr Shorten ?

    – We all forget that The Labour Party is run by an ex union offical. Have you ever been at a table during an EBA and have to listen to the demands. These people have no idea what it is to run a business or let alone a government. I do remember Dealing with Bill during his days in the union and was not impressed.

    – Good one Bill.

    Yet another unprincipled tax grab by a party that is addicted to spending other people’s money.

  241. areff says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:30 am

    STIs aren’t necessarily sexually transmitted

    Always remember to stand on the seat,
    ’cause the syphilis germ can jump four feet

    Advice to live my in remote communities

  242. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:33 am

    ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN – Self-funded retirees under attack

    By discriminating against retirees the ALP has left the door open for Treasury to convince the Coalition government to make a frontal attack on franking credits.

    Later in this commentary I will set out what they will be now be considering.

    But first let’s look more closely at the way self-funded retirees are under attack.

    Because they are not yet a big enough part of the community to influence elections, both parties reckon they are fair game.

    Under the Peter Costello rules, superannuation funds in pension mode were tax-free. The current Coalition government limited the tax-free portion to $1.6 million and introduced other nasties to attack retirees. One of those nasties encouraged people with in the vicinity of between $400,000 and $800,000 in assets to liquidate part of those assets and go on the government pension. They received a 7.8 per cent return on assets liquidated. Cruises have boomed thanks partly to the Coalition. It was stupid policy but the Coalition attitude was: “Who cares? Self-funded retirees don’t carry enough votes and the increased eventual pension bill will be met by a future government”.

    However Coalition policy encouraged retirees to invest that $1.6 million tax-free money in shares, particularly those that paid franked dividends.

    Now the ALP says that that those $1.6 million tax-free funds will not be able to claim franked credits, substantially lowering the value to self-funded retirees of banks and other securities that pay high franked dividends. Many bank hybrids are among those to be affected.

    That means if your superannuation fund is paying tax, ie not in retirement mode, you can claim franking credits but if it is in retirement mode (or not paying tax because of large volumes of franking credits) then the fund can’t claim the benefit of those credits.

    This is clear discrimination. Both the industry and retail funds will argue that overall they are big taxpayers and there should be no discrimination between members in retirement mode and those saving for retirement. It’s only those dreadful self-managed funds that should be attacked.

    I fear that between now and coming to power in an election, lobbying by the big superannuation funds might cause the ALP policy to be converted into a full-scale attack on self-managed funds by giving industry and retail funds a special advantage. I hope I am wrong.

    Such a move would decimate self-managed funds but given they have a third of the superannuation market it would be dangerous politically.

    As more people move into retirement phase any restriction on the use of franking credits will reduce the market value of bank shares and those hybrids increasing their returns by the use of franking credits.

    But on the favourable side, under pressure from institutions, companies like banks, Telstra and BHP paid out far too much of their profits in dividends. Many of the current bank problems relate to the fact that they underinvested in the technology backing the administration of many products they introduced. The required money to fund that investment was being foolishly being paid out in dividends.

    But Telstra and BHP have sensibly changed policy and reduced or restricted payouts. The banks so far have not adopted such a policy. For BHP, with $11 billion in unpaid franking credits, many shareholders will press the company to pay them out quickly because they could lose their value for retirees, depending on the result of the next election.

    In the case of BHP this is an extra money grab discriminating between BHP shareholders who are retirees and those who are not.

    Like all political games that discriminate between people it is not the high-income earners who will suffer, they will find a way around the problem.

    Rather it is mum and dad who worked hard and saved for their retirement who cop it in the neck every time.

    The Coalition’s attack on this group set a policy that discouraged retirees from selling their house and downsizing. They have made some amendments to that.

    But the ALP is now saying the same thing. If you free up cash by selling your house and investing it in shares with franked credits then you are deprived of the benefit of those franking credits.

    Many will either keep their house or increase their cruise enjoyment and live on the government pension.

    Rather than hit the battlers where it hurts a more enlightened ALP would have been much better to restrict franking credits to dividends that are less than half the profit.

    That would have been good for the country as well as for the long-term shareholders and it would have raised as much money. The ALP has left the door open for the Coalition to adopt such a policy.

    In addition I believe there is a very good chance that the Coalition will embrace the “Calderon plan” which was announced at the Melbourne Mining Club by the CEO of Orica, Alberto Calderon (under the plan Australia follows the US in new plant and research write-offs but does not lower company tax).

  243. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Vice Admiral enlisted special forces help to keep his sheets and kitchenware

    Defence’s second-highest ranked officer, Vice Admiral Ray Griggs, dispatched a crack special forces commander to monitor his estranged wife Kerrie Griggs’s shift from their Defence residence, partly to ensure she left him enough sheets and kitchenware.

    The supervision, which was also due to the timing of the shift, had followed some disagreement between the couple over personal possessions at their official home, according to correspondence sighted by The Australian.

    The Australian has uncovered further details about the incident that saw the Vice Chief of the Defence Force, an ambassador for the White Ribbon charity which seeks to prevent violence against women, send his chief of staff, Colonel Craig Shortt, to act as his “representative” in Kerrie’s shift from the Duntroon house in 2015.

    Colonel Shortt, who has since been promoted to brigadier, is a battle-hardened special forces commander who had twice led the 2nd Commando Regiment, and then been the director of the military’s Special Operations and Plans, prior to being appointed as Vice Admiral Griggs’s chief of staff.

    The incident was among a number of issues associated with the 2014 break-up that prompted Kerrie to complain to the Inspector General of the Australian Defence Force (IGADF). She alleged it was inappropriate use of Vice Admiral Griggs’s staff and also queried why a woman wasn’t sent.

    The IGADF investigation found that while the move could have “been better handled” it cleared Vice Admiral Griggs of any impropriety. The IGADF found Vice Admiral Griggs had “an interest in and obligations connected with the removal of personal effects from the official residence tied to his posting as Vice Chief of the Defence Force”.

    The Australian has sighted correspondence that suggests one of Vice Admiral Griggs’s reasons for dispatching the former special forces officer related to concerns Kerrie might unfairly divide up property, especially linen and kitchenware, in the official residence.

    In 2015, he emailed her complaining that what she wanted from the property went beyond establishing a functional household, especially “a functioning kitchen”. In June 2015, while he was overseas on holiday with his new partner, Kerrie notified him of her intent to move out of the official residence.

    He emailed her saying he had appointed Shortt and a staff officer as his representatives for the move because he was overseas and he had given them an “agreed inventory”. “They are there to protect my equities as you did not afford me the time to engage a professional to do the task,’’ he said. Colonel Shortt attended the property, but left when Ms Griggs said the move was not occurring that day. The Australian does not suggest he acted inappropriately.

    Kerrie emailed her husband complaining about the “optics” of using Defence personnel on a personal matter while “you are overseas on holidays with your mistress”. Griggs emailed back saying having his staff present was justified due to goods being removed that were his. “You removed material from the house you had no right to … you repeatedly refused to confirm the kitchen and linen issues which were supposed to be agreed, not just what you chose to leave behind,” he said.

    A Defence spokesman said independent inquiries found no breach of Defence policy in this matter. He said Defence residences tied to senior commanders contain commonwealth property, which could be inadvertently damaged or packed by removalists.

    Comments Interesting

  244. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:43 am

    We all forget that The Labour Party is run by an ex union offical.

    The stupid fucking liberals, should have put their entire might into decimating the sources of funding for the ALP & unions. The stupid fucking liberals should have a take no prisoners approach to socialism. Instead they elect a crypto-socialist to lead the party.

  245. johanna says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:45 am

    Politicians always claim to be in favour of a good retirement policy for the punters.

    Yet, every five minutes they change the rules.

    My hypothetical old man has his hypothetical wealth stashed in a hypothetical safe.

    Silly old duffer!

    He’s a European migrant from the 1950s. But, just imagine what, say, Chinese migrants and their descendants are doing. Here’s a tip, they are not declaring their gold to the ATO.

    I refer to the robbery of the safe deposit boxes at the Haymarket (next to Chinatown) bank many years ago. It is one of our biggest unsolved mysteries – no doubt millions involved. But, because box-holders were unwilling to disclose the contents, the investigation stalled.

    No doubt Chinese boxholders offered a handsome reward for the culprits, but as far as is known, the reward was never claimed and the stolen goods were never recovered.

    What a great heist! Doing it in the face of some very scary Chinese crims makes it even juicier.

    Somebody must know something, but it must be more than their life is worth.

  246. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:49 am

    THE AUSTRALIAN
    ARMY AND THE
    VIETNAM WAR
    1962–1972
    Edited by
    Peter Dennis & Jeffrey Grey
    Army History Unit
    THE 2002 CHIEF OF ARMY’S MILITARY

    The Preface Following gives a good overview but the whole article is worth a read

    Vietnam was Australia’s longest war, and among its most controversial and divisive.
    The brunt of the ten year Australian commitment was borne by the Army, in terms of
    the forces committed and the casualties incurred. The Army became the focus of public
    opposition to government policies and of discontent among those eligible for call-up
    under the National Service scheme, a political price with ramifications felt for years
    after the war’s end. On the other hand, the Army matured professionally during the
    Vietnam War, was stretched organisationally and institutionally and rose to the challenge
    successfully. As a generalisation, the United States went into the Vietnam War with a
    superb Army which the war very nearly destroyed; the Australian Army was enhanced
    by the Vietnam experience.

    Much of the popular perception of the war is driven by the products of Hollywood, and
    to a slightly lesser extent by American historical, fictional and memoir literature. Neither
    Rambo nor China Beach has much, if anything, to say to the Australian experience of
    the war. (They may not have much to say to the reality of American experience, either).
    The popular notion that it is the victors who write the history is fundamentally belied
    by the case of the Vietnam War: the war is writ overwhelmingly in and on American
    terms. The United States has never been especially good at recognising the fact, much
    less the role, played by its allies in the conflicts of the twentieth century; in popular
    culture significant events acquire significance only when they are appropriated to
    American actors (the film U-571, in which British success in capturing Enigma codes
    at sea is reallocated to the US Navy, is a case in point). A collection of essays allegedly
    providing ‘international perspectives’ on the war manages, in the section devoted to
    the allies of the United States, to ignore entirely the contributions made by Australia,
    New Zealand, Thailand and the Philippines while providing coverage of Japan, NATO
    and the Middle East.1 Of serious study of the Republic of [South] Vietnam, or of its
    army—ARVN—there is virtually no sign.

    The Vietnam War was not a single, undifferentiated entity. Individual experience in
    Vietnam was a function of where you were and when you were there. The US Marines in
    northern I Corps fought a very different, and much more nearly conventional, war than
    did the largely South Vietnamese units combatting local force guerrillas in the Delta.
    For Americans, the ‘big unit’ war associated with Westmoreland between 1965-1968
    differed from the emphases on pacification and Vietnamisation overseen by his successor,
    Abrams, in the period 1969-1973. Marines working in the Combined Action Platoon
    program in the earlier period and advisors working with the ARVN during the North
    Vietnamese offensive at Easter 1972 would both dissent from that characterisation. So
    too with the forces contributed to the Free World Military Assistance Forces. While all
    the governments concerned used the force contributions they made to create leverage
    with Washington, these forces themselves had very different wars. And all were different
    again from that experienced by the South Vietnamese, for many of whom the operational
    tour was not one year, but ten.

    Writing on the war in Australia has gone through several manifestations and the
    literature remains uneven in both quality and coverage. There is no single, comprehensive
    history of anti-Vietnam War activism or the Moratorium movement of 1970-71;
    veterans’ issues have been treated partially and writing in this area tends to be stronger
    on advocacy than analysis; there is as yet no systematic study of the soldier and his
    experience across the course of the war of the kind undertaken in the United States, or
    as exists elsewhere in Australian historiography for the two world wars.2 Two traditions
    within the writing of Australian military history are well represented in the literature,
    however: the unit history, and the official history. The latter in particular, conceptualised
    to deal with Australia’s involvement in postwar Southeast Asian conflicts in Malaya
    and Borneo as well as in South Vietnam, helps to provide an important context for the
    study of Australia’s involvement in the war, one which precisely reflects the Army’s
    own experiences in the course of the 1950s and 1960s.

    The essays in this volume were originally presented at the annual Chief of Army’s
    military history conference in Canberra in October 2002. Coinciding with the 40th
    anniversary of the first commitment of the Australian Army Training Team Vietnam and
    the 30th anniversary of the withdrawal of the final elements of the Australian force, it
    concerned itself not only with the ‘in-country’ experience in its various forms, but with
    the way in which the Army was trained and prepared for operations, the higher-level
    policy which governed the deployment, and the interaction with and incorporation of
    infantry companies from the Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment into the Royal
    Australian Regiment (ANZAC) battalions. The wider context of the war received
    appropriate emphasis as well, with consideration given to the interaction between
    the Australian government and the Johnson administration in Washington, and the
    experiences of the Republic of Korea (ROK) expeditionary force, and of the ARVN, on
    whose behalf and alongside whom Australians, Americans, Koreans, Thais and others
    fought and bled. Two aspects of the war and its impact on the Army are addressed here,
    although to date they have featured hardly at all in writing on the war: the impact on
    the Citizen Military Forces (CMF), denied a role and relegated to ‘Third XV’ status in
    the defence of Australia; and the institutional and policy consequences for the Army in
    the aftermath of withdrawal and the ultimate defeat of Western interests in 1975.

    The Vietnam War remains a living force in American public life, as some of the
    discussion about the possible war on Iraq in recent months makes clear. In Australia
    the war has much more clearly been consigned to ‘history’. That does not, and should
    not, mean that it is of interest only to military history buffs and old soldiers reliving
    their past. The Australian Army was called on to function at a level and at a sustained
    intensity in a manner not seen since the Second World War. Many of the issues of
    training, doctrine, manpower, command and inter-allied relations are live ones still,
    and would be instantly recognisable to those who led the Australian contribution to
    INTERFET in East Timor in 1999-2000. Despite the fact of defeat in Indochina and
    the frustration of American power, the Australian Army rose to the challenges thrown
    at it by the Vietnam commitment and generally met them successfully. How it did so,
    and the costs incurred in doing so, are worth careful study as the Army is again faced
    with the defence of Australian interests in an increasingly unstable and unpredictable
    international order.

    A volume such as this would not be possible without the willing cooperation of many
    individuals. As always, Roger Lee and his staff at the Army History Unit were responsible
    for the overall organisation of the conference, and we thank them for their sustained
    efforts. Our speakers responded graciously to our requests for written versions of their
    papers (some of which have been considerably expanded for inclusion on this volume)
    to be available in what might seem in academic circles to be indecent haste. Dr Peter
    Edwards kindly allowed us to adapt his after-dinner speech for inclusion here. In the
    production of the volume we have been greatly helped by the willing cooperation of
    Margaret McNally, Jeff Doyle, and Kurt Fountain. We could not have got to the point
    of publication without their assistance, and we are very grateful for it. It is seven years
    since we first began to work with (then) Colonel Peter Leahy in helping to plan the
    program for and subsequent publication of the proceedings of the Chief of Army’s
    military history conference. It gives us special pleasure to acknowledge his continuing
    support, as Chief of Army, for history in the Army and the wider community.

    Peter Dennis & Jeffrey Grey

  247. calli says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:50 am

    Women’s leggings and mashed potato

    Unfortunate pairing. Visions of pasty white thunder thighs crammed tightly into over expanded hose.

    Remember ladies, leggings aren’t trousers.

  248. Winston Smith says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:56 am

    Johanna;

    In fairness, I could have done the same, stone cold sober. I have arthritis in one knee, and it tends to collapse under me when going downhill. I have had exactly Hillary’s experience.

    Did you notice in the video that each time she slipped, it was when she put her foot in a worn groove in the step?
    It almost looked deliberate. Why would she do it?

  249. Leigh Lowe says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:01 am

    Tintarella di Luna

    #2660138, posted on March 14, 2018 at 7:04 am

    I thought he was simply being self-deprecating and acting as a good natured foil to JP.

    Worked a treat, you are very kind Snoopy, I may be a touch intolerant and need to smarten myself up on that score I let my fed-up-edness get the better of me. At least Tom didn’t use the “so what you’re saying” rubric

    So, what you’re saying is that you were too quick to judge Bollard?

  250. OldOzzie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:03 am

    ALP soaks wealthy in Robin Hood bid to win next election – DAVID UREN

    Bill Shorten is planning a Robin Hood election campaign with policies that take $210 billion from high-income earners, investors and large companies to be redistributed to lower-income groups through tax cuts and to small ­business.

    Announcing his plan to abolish cash rebates of dividend imputation credits, the Opposition Leader yesterday confirmed that Labor would use funds raised to finance personal income tax cuts for low- and ­middle-income earners ahead of the next election.

    “Labor is making hard budget decisions which will allow us to do three things: improve the budget position; make sure that we can have a proper safety net of schools and hospitals and aged care and public transport; and, also, this serious and genuine reform, today’s action, will allow us the option of offering tax relief to low- and ­middle-income Australians before the next election,” he said.

    Labor has unveiled eight multi-billion-dollar tax hikes that will raise about $33bn over a four-year period and $210bn over a decade. The actual sums to be raised will be significantly bigger than this by the time of next year’s election, with most of Labor’s publicly released costings showing only the Parliamentary Budget Office estimates to 2026-27.

    Large companies contribute about 20 per cent of this additional tax revenue while high-income earners and people earning investment income will foot the bill for the remaining 80 per cent. Investor groups being targeted include small business and families using discretionary trusts, property investors, high-income superannuation savings and share investors.

    Although Mr Shorten is emphasising that the measures are aimed at those on high incomes, the clamps on negative gearing will affect many middle-income people with investment property while retirees will be the most directly affected by the dividend imputation clamp. More than half the 1.2 million people affected by Labor’s measure are earning less than the tax-free threshold of $18,200, while 97 per cent earn less than $87,000.

    Labor has focused on revenue-raising measures and has announced only three major spending and tax-cut measures so far, consuming about $45bn or a little over 20 per cent of the additional income it has raised.

    “Labor has a much better fiscal position, full stop, than the government,” Mr Shorten said.

    The Turnbull government is wrestling with how to include personal income tax cuts in this year’s budget without jeopardising the promised return to budget surplus in 2020-21 or Australia’s AAA credit rating. It is likely to offer only small cuts initially, with the promise of more to come.

    Following last year’s budget, Labor Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen said personal income tax cuts would be considered only once the budget was back in balance; however, the latest tax measures increase his budget latitude.

    Eliminating cash refunds of imputation credits, raising $59bn over a decade, is the largest single tax measure and will affect primarily retirees with share portfolios. Cash refunds are given only to people (and superannuation funds) with insufficient taxable income to make use of a tax credit.

    Labor has opposed tax cuts for companies earning more than $2m but has not confirmed whether its election platform will include revoking the tax cuts for companies with turnovers of up to $50m that have been legislated.

    If it leaves them in place, as is likely, it would get an additional $35.6bn from removing tax cuts for larger companies from the budget.

    The elimination of negative gearing for future investment in established housing and halving the capital gains discount will raise $32.4bn over a decade, while the imposition of a minimum tax rate on discretionary trust distributions will raise $22bn, most of it coming from small business. Although the government’s limits on high-­income superannuation angered Coalition supporters, Labor’s plans go much further, raising $32.6bn.

    Labor also announced a tax cut for business, making instant asset write-offs permanent, at a cost of $10.3bn over a decade, while it has vowed to reverse the Coalition’s hike in the Medicare levy for people earning less than $87,000.

    This will cost $17.7bn but is covered by raising the top marginal personal income tax rate by 2 per cent to $22.4bn. The only major spending measure to date is a vow to add $17bn to the Gonski school funding package.

    From the Comments

    – He will also need to allocate massive funding to the asylum seeker industry. The boats will start immediately he is elected.

    – In Europe people are turning to the right because of similar policies on tax, immigration etc that the socialist left have been pushing. Wake up Australia these guys work for the unions who represent less that 10% of us.

    – This is more “Sheriff of Nottingham” and bears no resemblance at all to Robin Hood.

    – The old maxim remains true: you can’t tax your way to prosperity. Labor’s way is destined only to deaden incentives to work and invest, meaning lower economic growth and, ultimately, lower tax revenue. If they had a program that combined quality expenditure reductions with some of these other tax measures, you could possibly say they were potentially viable. This way is simply no more than tax and spend, tax and spend.

    – I am middle class and work 12+ hours a day, I pay my way with schooling and medical expenses and receive no payments from the government. Why should I sacrifice time with my family when Labor wants to keep lifting taxes to keep funneling money into buying votes. I don’t begrudge people in genuine need money, however, many of the manual labouring jobs (farm work, cleaning, cafe’s, etc) are done be overseas backpackers that cannot get local workers. In addition the middle class addiction to welfare payments is out of control. Everyone wants the new four bedroom home, a 4wd and annual holiday. If your income dictates an older 3 bedroom home, a modest sedan and a holiday every two years why should the government prop up your lifestyle? Labor’s answer is to throw more money at these two groups to get votes. Shorten has shown he has no ideology, just, a wish to be PM at any cost (as long as someone else pays).

    – Nice summary of Labor policy.

    – David, you say that this policy targets “high income superannuation funds”……….wrong. It targets every super fund in pension mode, no matter how large or small the balance. This measure will hurt a lot of people.

    – I think you malign robin hood. This is merely theft in order to provide loot to people bill wants to vote for him

    – A country cannot tax its way to prosperity

    – They sent someone to find out what Mal thinks! He was unavailable as he has been rushed to emergency to have a large piece of gristle removed from his right hand!

    – I am glad Shorten and Bowen are coming out with this nonsense now.

    I hope it frightens the living daylights out of Liberal MPs and they get rid of Turnbull ASAP.

    If the Liberals put in someone decent, not Bishop, Pyne or Morrison, Shorten will be gone like a dogs dinner in no time and maybe then Labor will have to face the hard task of finding someone decent in their ranks.

    Plibersek and Albanese would be an even bigger disaster than Shorten, boats please.

    Do any of these people on both sides ever wake up to the fact they can make real savings by cutting the ridiculous amount of waste and the RET nonsense.

    – RobbingTax Bill, more like it.

    – I know how the Coalition can fund bigger tax cuts….stop giving $500,000 of our money to Filipino lawyers to defend this animal… in fact just cut wastage and you could fund massive tax cuts. I know…I’m dreamin’.

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