Wednesday Forum: May 23, 2018

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  1. nemkat

    DrBeauGan
    #2718413, posted on May 23, 2018 at 7:53 pm
    The problem with low mean IQ and poor diet is the positive feedback. It is true that if you fed them properly, in three or four generations there would be a big improvement in IQ.

    Blacks have been in North America since 1619.
    Black I.Q. there averages 85, compared to I.Q. 75 in Africa.
    Less than one standard deviation in 400 years.
    So, i’d say you just make shit up, Doc.

  2. Herodotus

    In the latest MSM anti Trump spasm (while waiting for the dam to burst and all the perfidy on the left and deep swamp to spew forth into the daylight) there has been another “look over there story”.

    “Information passed to the BBC … ” now that’s a convincing opener – is that hundreds of thousands of dollars were paid to lawyer Cohen to facilitate a longer meeting with Trump for a Ukrainian pollie who wanted to be able to represent it as long and meaningful rather than the more usual handshake for the cameras.

    We know that Trump doesn’t need the cash. So who’s in the gunsights really? And where is this info coming from? Stormy’s lawyer? The Russians? The ever so trustworthy US intelligence and law enforcement brigades?

  3. nemkat

    I am having a lot of trouble finding the actual law that Wilson was found guilty of breaching. Was it common law misprison of felony, or was it in legislation?

    Wilson did the wrong thing, now he’s gonna pay.
    That’s all that matters.

  4. OldOzzie

    8 signs pointing to a counterintelligence operation deployed against Trump’s campaign
    By Sharyl Attkisson, opinion contributor
    — 05/23/18

    1. Code name

    2. Wiretap fever

    3. National security letters

    4. Unmasking

    5. Changing the rules

    6. Media strategy

    7. Leaks

    8. Friends, informants and snoops

  5. feelthebern

    Wilson did the wrong thing, now he’s gonna pay.
    That’s all that matters.

    This just in:
    nemkat is actually Sir Thomas Moore reincarnated.

  6. rickw

    China also lodged an official diplomatic complaint with Australia after a Turnbull government minister attacked Beijing’s aid program in the Pacific.

    International Development Minister Concetta Fierravanti-Wells criticised China’s assistance to tiny Pacific Island nations for building “white elephant” projects and “roads to nowhere”.

    Calling out the obvious, completely off the reservation! Did China’s pay roll run late this month?!

  7. Tintarella di Luna

    I was sent this by a friend in relation to an Australian citizen James Ricketson held without charge in a Cambodian gaol for over 12 months – why is Julie Bishop not assisting this Australian citizen, is it because she wants to do a deal with Cambodia to take refugees? https://www.change.org/p/julie-bishop-act-now-to-bringjamesricketsonhome-or-my-innocent-father-will-die-in-jail/responses/41047?recruiter=47498043&utm_source=share_dm_response&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive&utm_term=share_petition.nafta_milestone_share_ask_1.72_hour_ask

  8. OldOzzie

    rickw
    #2718668, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:20 am

    Calling out the obvious, completely off the reservation! Did China’s pay roll run late this month?!

    Well according to RBA

    Philip Lowe on why the RBA is watching China’s debt mountain so carefully

    Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe has appealed for calm over Australia’s increasingly troubled political relationship with China, while warning that its ballooning debt mountain and opaque financial system pose a threat to prosperity here.

    Seeking to take heat out of the debate over China’s role in Australia, Dr Lowe said it was important to build understanding, connections and multiple lines of communication.

    He said while every relationship had its ups and downs, “I do think it’s important that we avoid escalating issues when they arise.”

    In a speech on Wednesday night Dr Lowe detailed his concerns over China’s banking system, which he says is the most likely source of an economic shock.

    “Not surprisingly, this risk has become a priority of the Chinese authorities – we all have a strong interest in their efforts being successful,” he said.

    Tapping the Reserve Bank’s extensive network of officials – it has more staff studying in China than in any other overseas country – Dr Lowe said Beijing’s authorities were working hard to address the debt threat.

    “It is too early to tell whether the authorities will be successful in managing the transition from a growth model heavily dependent upon the accumulation of debt to one where credit is less central.

    “It is a very significant task. The experience of other countries suggests caution and, elsewhere, there have been serious accidents along the way.”

    Speaking at an event hosted by the Australia-China Relations Institute in Sydney, Dr Lowe alluded to the financial calamities that Australians faced following the initial deregulation of the banking system in the 1970s.

    “As some of the regulations were eased here and more things became permissible, we too saw new institutions emerge – just has been the case in China – to sidestep the regulations that remained.

    “In our case, this did not end well! This helps explain why we are watching things in China so carefully.”

    However, Dr Lowe said he was “optimistic” about China’s ability to address vulnerabilities in the financial system

    “The Chinese authorities have managed the task of keeping the economy on a reasonable growth trajectory for quite a few years. I’m optimistic they will continue to do that.

    “Many other countries have had to address problems in the financial system during a crisis. The Chinese are doing it beforehand.”

    Dr Lowe again invited China’s leaders to learn from Australia’s experience, and repeatedly used his speech to hammer home the need to improve a relationship that has been heavily strained over the past year or so. He called for greater links across business, finance, politics, academia and the community.

    “We will, of course, have differences from time to time, but we will surely be better placed to deal with these if we understand one another well.”

    Asked whether the more protectionist approach of the Trump administration in the US was motivating China to accelerate reforms, Dr Lowe said increasingly Beijing was “a voice for the open rules-based international trading system.”

    He said that was one of the common interests that “binds us together” and could help Australia and China through volatile periods in the relationship.

    The governor’s twin concerns – on debt and the state of the relationship – were the subject of a special discussion in the Reserve Bank’s May board meeting, and underscore the degree to which both issues are intertwined.

    Analysis by the bank’s staff shows that so-called shadow banking accounts for around 45 per cent (up from 25 per cent 10 years ago) of China’s total debt – which has galloped to 260 per cent of gross domestic product.

    Simultaneously there are now more than 3500 institutions channelling money into the economy through opaque structures such as trusts.
    ‘Quite different to the normal pattern’

    Dr Lowe said the debt surge was unlike anything recorded over the past decade among either advanced or developing economies.

    “What has happened in China is quite different to the normal pattern,” he said.

    Even though China has liberalised much of its financial system, loosened interest rate controls and capital flows over the past decade, there is still much to be done, he suggested.

    “It is worth recognising that, taken together, these are significant changes. A decade ago, many outside observers were sceptical that the Chinese authorities would undertake reforms across many of these fronts.

    “Yet they have made significant progress. Despite this progress, there is still much to be done before the Chinese financial systems looks like financial systems we see in the advanced economies.”

    Dr Lowe also cautioned that any liberalisation of China’s capital account must be done gradually.

    “If Chinese citizens can buy and sell foreign assets just like you or I can that will have really profound implications for global capital markets,” he said .

    “We see evidence at the moment in some countries where Chinese citizens have wanted to buy property assets and that’s forced up property prices,” he said, nominating Australia as one of the places that’s been affected.

    “That’s been manageable but if it were on a much larger scale — which it conceivably could be — it would be problematic.”

    Urging Australians to take a broader view of China, Dr Lowe pointed out that services and direct investment are becoming important drivers alongside the traditional resources trade flows.

    “Too often this relationship has been viewed largely through the prism of resource exports,” he said.

    “These exports are certainly important, but this perspective is too narrow. Over time, we are seeing a broadening and deepening of our economic relationship with China.”

    By way of reminder, he noted that the deepening of the economic relationship is benefiting both sides.

    “It has created new opportunities for us and significantly boosted our national income. It was also one of the factors that helped our economy through the global financial crisis.

    “The deepening relationship has also benefited China in many ways.

    “This means that both countries have a strong interest in managing this important relationship well. It is in our mutual interests to do this. Together, we can also be a strong voice for the importance of an open international trading system and for effective regional cooperation.”

  9. Shelley

    Nice to see you comment yesterday Johanna, you have been quiet of late?

  10. Delta A

    why is Julie Bishop not assisting this Australian citizen

    And what, if any, assistance is she providing for Dr Ken Elliot?

    But I guess there’s no glamour in working for the little people.

    Thanks for the post, Tinta.

  11. nemkat

    James Ricketson flew a photographic drone over a political meeting in Cambodia.
    Sounds like James is a spook.
    If he’s an Aussie spook, publicly haranging Julie Bishop won’t do much good.
    If he’s some other Country’s spook, it’s stiff cheddar, isn’t it, Tinta?

  12. johanna

    Reading back, and I commiserate with Gab about her female boss.

    It is line-ball between the male lech who hated me because I wouldn’t come across and the female psycho who micromanaged me until I wanted to punch her lights out. But, I had another, lesser version of the micromanager who was also female, while the lech was a one off. That said, possibly the best and most inspirational manager I ever had was a woman – thank you, Mary D. And also, thanks to Fay H. who demonstrated that talent, toughness and good humour win out in the end.

    When I first became a manager, I was pretty bad at it, but the one thing I had learned was that micro-managing your staff is bad news, as well as being personally exhausting. Micro-managers must be permanently anxious and afraid.

    As Gab said, my best male managers gave me a job and let me get on with it. I loved them for that. And, I tried to do the same when I was in charge.

  13. OldOzzie

    Hanson-Young sails into trouble over what makes Australia Day

    Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young claims she did not read a statement her office sent out on her behalf, inaccurately asserting that Australia Day marked the date Captain James Cook sailed into Botany Bay.

    In a press release accusing Communications Minister Mitch Fifield of ignorance for being ­unable to name the traditional owners of Botany Bay, Senator Hanson-Young incorrectly linked Australia Day with Captain Cook’s arrival on April 29, 1770.

    Australia Day commemorates the arrival of the First Fleet at Port Jackson in 1788, and the raising of the British flag by Governor ­Arthur Phillip at Sydney Cove.

    “Despite an important national debate about changing the date of Australia Day away from Captain Cook’s landing at Botany Bay, the government has decided to spend taxpayer money it is stripping from the ABC on yet another monument to Captain Cook on the land of the Dharawal people,” Senator Hanson-Young said.

    “The Liberal government is waging a culture war against not only the ABC, but both the Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in our community who speak out against the divisive commemoration of the colonialism that caused the 200 years of displacement and pain to our First ­Peoples.”

    In response to media reports, Senator Hanson-Young reissued the statement and allowed one of her staff members to take the blame for the blunder, but the re­issued statement repeated another error that appeared in the first ­release.

    GRAPHIC: Hanson-Young’s gaffes

    “Despite an important national debate about changing the date of Australia Day away from the First Fleet’s landing, the Government has decided to strip funding from the ABC to spend it on yet another monument to colonialism, on the land of the Dharawal people,” the new statement said.

    “This government is out of touch with the Australian people — taking money from our most trusted news service which will no doubt lead to further job cuts, and ignoring why our First Australians find the celebration of the arrival of Captain Cook so painful in one fell swoop.”

    A spokeswoman for Senator Hanson-Young confirmed that the senator had not read the press release before it was sent out, taking responsibility for the mistake.

    Senator Fifield said Senator Hanson-Young’s comments “highlight the importance of teaching and commemorating Australian history”.

    Born in 1981, Senator Hanson-Young was home-schooled for most of primary school, before ­attending Orbost Secondary College in Gippsland in Victoria’s east.

    Liberal backbencher Eric Abetz said Senator Hanson-Young had “placed her intellectual prowess on full display once again”.

    “For months, we’ve been ­lectured about how Australia Day is supposedly all sorts of things yet we now discover that the Greens don’t even know what they’re ­opposing,” Senator Abetz said.

    “The tragic thing is that this is the best that the Australian Greens have to offer up to voters. It’s easy to have a black-armband view of Australian history if you don’t even know the basic facts.”

  14. Tintarella di Luna

    Delta A, yes it’s been a long time for Dr Ken Elliott – Julie Bishop obviously such an effective foreign minister but only with the cocktail set.

  15. 2dogs

    If it was section 316 of the Crimes Act (NSW) 1900, I thought clergy were exempt under subsection 4?

  16. rickw

    But the plain fact is that they are unbelievable to.anyone who wasn’t brainwashed into them at an early age. If someone tried to sell you on the Greek gods or the Hindu pantheon, you’d reject them as fairy tales. That’s exactly how your beliefs look to almost everyone these days.

    You want to tell that to the millions of Chinese converting to Christianity. To compare Christianity to the pantheon of other religions illustrates either a gross ignorance of Christianity, other religions, or both.

  17. OldOzzie

    ABC coy on effect of budget freeze on news delivery

    The ABC has refused to outline how the federal government’s $84 million budget freeze would affect its ability to deliver news services, while vowing to lobby for increased funding.

    “We still have a year available to us and will negotiate with the government before we contemplate where services will be cut,” ABC chief financial officer Louise Higgins told a Senate estimates committee last night.

    Asked to detail what “muscle” the ABC would slice into to absorb the three-year freeze due to commence in July 2019 — following news director Gaven Morris’s protest that there was “no fat left” in his division — Ms Higgins said the public broadcaster was at a point where it would have to make choices about what services it continued to provide.

    But she did not name any major ABC service lost as a result of previous funding cuts, outlining how savings had instead been found in middle management, back-end operations and transmission costs, including through joint procurements with SBS.

    SBS chief executive Michael Ebeid told the committee the two broadcasters had already exhausted every opportunity for joint savings. “We have looked under every single rock between the ABC and SBS about what we could share in the back offices,” Mr Ebeid said.

    “The two organisations have different operating frameworks; there’s actually not that many opportunities to share,” he said, adding that “things would end up costing SBS more to do” if functions were merged further, “because of the way that the ABC and SBS are run”.

    The comments come as the federal government’s competitive neutrality inquiry gathers steam, with an independent panel taking submissions about whether the public broadcasters enjoy a competitive advantage over commercial broadcasters. And they follow the news last week that the ABC had splurged $2.6m on staff bonuses last year.

    Mr Ebeid said SBS had “always had to operate efficiently” due to receiving less funding than the ABC. SBS staff costs made up $132m of the organisation’s $400m budget, he said, while suppliers were paid $240m and transmission costs were about $86m. Revenue was made up of $105m in advertising and $282m in government funding.

    Ms Higgins said the ABC was battling spiralling costs and that the organisation’s 4000 employees were its biggest expense, accounting for half of its $1bn budget. About $250m was spend on transmissions, including major broadcasting contracts and supporting digital platforms, she said, with $250m allocated to external program acquisitions and just over $100m spent on support costs.

    Asked if the ABC would consider putting its iView streaming content behind a paywall, Ms Higgins said there were no plans to charge viewers.

  18. nemkat

    Interesting that China wants Julie Bishop’s head on a plate, now Tony Abbott and a few Cat commenters are after her too.

  19. johanna

    Shelley
    #2718671, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:25 am

    Nice to see you comment yesterday Johanna, you have been quiet of late?

    Hey Shelley!

    Been busy with life, you know how it is. Also, taking a break from the Cat now and then is good for one’s mental health, IMHO. 🙂

    What’s happening in the SA scene?

  20. Tintarella di Luna

    Well, what a surprise – they are going to withdraw the 31 charges against Ralph Blewett – I wonder why? that would be?

    Fraud charges against confessed union “bagman” Ralph Blewitt have been dropped, signalling the possible end of an Australian Workers Union slush fund saga that has dogged Julia Gillard and former boyfriend Bruce Wilson for more than two decades.

    Prosecutors said 31 fraud charges against Mr Blewitt that were due to be heard in Perth Magistrates Court would be discontinued because there was little prospect of conviction.

    Mr Blewitt was Mr Wilson’s union sidekick in the mid-1990s when he led AWU branches in Western Australia and Victoria, and was involved in an alleged AWU slush fund that received hundreds of thousands of dollars paid by construction companies.

    A scandal over how the money was spent led to Mr Wilson’s ­abrupt exit from the union. He was recommended in the 2015 royal commission into union corruption to face criminal prosecution.

    The scandal also simmered in the background throughout Ms Gillard’s political career, including when she was Labor prime minister, because as a young solicitor with Melbourne-based law firm Slater & Gordon she had used her legal expertise to help set up the AWU Workplace Association for Mr Wilson in the 1990s when they were a couple.

    While Ms Gillard was later found to have committed no wrongdoing legally, and was not recommended for prosecution by royal commissioner Dyson Heydon, she was criticised for her conduct as a solicitor.

    It was also accepted by the royal commission that some slush fund money was used by Mr Wilson to help pay for renovations on her house. Ms Gillard’s involvement in helping to set up the fund, and other issues, contributed to her exit from Slater & Gordon before she entered parliament.

    Mr Blewitt was angry yesterday about the outcome of the prosecution, saying he believed the case had collapsed because “political strings were pulled ­behind the scenes”.

    Mr Blewitt said he was most disappointed because he had wanted the prosecution to proceed so he could call Mr Wilson, Ms Gillard and a former Slater & Gordon solicitor Brendan Murphy, now a Federal Court judge, to give evidence. He wanted all ­details of the case aired in court.

    He was also disappointed the original prosecution was to have gone ahead in a Victorian court before being shifted to Perth where the slush fund was set up.

    Although Mr Blewitt has ­repeatedly admitted his involvement, he had pleaded not guilty to all 31 fraud charges because he said he was “purely and simply a bagman”.

    He said yesterday he should have been more appropriately charged with “receiving secret commissions, which would have got up”.

    But he said he would have pleaded not guilty to any such charges as well because he was a “stooge” in the scandal.

    Mr Blewitt has been on bail since he was charged with fraud in March last year. He said he had spent $13,000 of his own funds travelling from his home in ­Malaysia to court hearings in Perth that he could not afford as a pensioner.

    With the Blewitt prosecution case shut down, legal observers have doubts that a prosecution against Mr Wilson will proceed as recommended by the royal commission.

    The only likely court action that could proceed at this stage is a private civil case that blogger and former radio broadcaster Michael Smith is seeking to bring against Ms Gillard in a Melbourne court. The future of that proposed case is unclear.

  21. OldOzzie

    Editorials
    Embrace rich Western heritage

    Ignorance, cultural cringe and self-loathing do not belong in quality universities. This is why Australian National University leaders must not be swayed by the ideologically driven protests of academic and student union leaders to a proposed new degree, to be backed by the Ramsay Centre for Western Civilisation. National Tertiary Education Union branch president Matthew King says the centre “seeks to pursue a narrow, radically conservative program to demonstrate and promulgate the alleged superiority of Western culture and civilisation”. Student association president Eleanor Kay says: “Western civilisation is often used as a rhetorical tool to continue the racist prioritisation of Western history over other cultures.” Their concept of academic freedom is selective. Others on campus would take a broader view.

    The Ramsay Centre, chaired by John Howard and which includes Kim Beazley, Tony Abbott and union leader Joe de Bruyn on its board, is funded by a $3 billion bequest from medical entrepreneur Paul Ramsay, who died in 2014. In collaborating with ANU to establish an undergraduate degree in Western civilisation, the centre would provide up to 40 scholarships worth $25,000 a year each. Mr Ramsay’s vision, Mr Howard wrote last year, was to help ensure young Australians grasped “the collective impact of culture, history, religion, literature and music, comprising Western civilisation, which had been so important in conditioning the modern Australia. Not least of these was the great Western tradition of liberal democracy.”

    That worthwhile objective will enrich Australian scholarship. Its themes and subjects should be the bedrock of liberal arts and humanities in universities. In January, the Ramsay Centre’s executive director, Simon Haines, who taught English literature at ANU from 1990 to 2008 and who headed its school of humanities, told The Times the degree envisaged would “include some philosophy, some literature, some history and some art and architecture in the various recognisable periods of Western civilisation. So there would be a Greco-Roman element, a late classical to medieval, Renaissance, Enlightenment, romanticism, 19th century and 20th-century modules. And within each of those periods there would be key texts within the different disciplines that students would look at.” The teaching model would be based on small tutorials and studying the great books of the Western canon.

    Universities have plenty of room for such an approach. Last year, an Institute of Public Affairs audit of 746 history subjects across 35 universities found only three institutions — Notre Dame Australia, Federation University in Ballarat and Campion College, a small liberal arts college in western Sydney — offered all core topics in the history of Western civilisation. The fact Campion College recently topped the Quality Indicators for Learning and Teaching rankings with a 96 per cent satisfaction rating suggests students respond well to traditional liberal arts teaching.

    Academics committed to cultural-left theory ­exemplified by postmodernism, deconstructionism, neo-Marxism, and feminist, gender and postcolonial theories regard Western civilisation as Eurocentric, patriarchal, elitist and oppressive, as Kevin Donnelly writes today. In the interests of true academic freedom, students are entitled to form their own opinions from a perspective of knowledge, not their lecturers’ prejudices. As Nobel prize-winning poet Seamus Heaney observed: “Nowadays, undergraduates are being taught prematurely to regard the poetic heritage as an oppressive imposition and to suspect it for its latent discriminations in the realm of gender, its privilegings and marginalisations in the realms of class and power. All of this suspicion may be salutary enough when it is exercised by a mind informed by that which it is being taught to suspect, but it is a suspicion which is lamentably destructive of cultural memory when it is induced in minds without any cultural possessions whatever.” The Ramsay legacy can help us do better. It deserves to be embraced.

  22. Motelier

    Liberal backbencher Eric Abetz said Senator Hanson-Young had “placed her intellectual prowess on full display once again”.

    The “intellectual” Senator Hanson-Young is from Mainland Tasmania.

    It seems she represents her state.

  23. OldOzzie

    Elon Musk

    @elonmusk

    Thought you’d say that. Anytime anyone criticizes the media, the media shrieks “You’re just like Trump!” Why do you think he got elected in the first place? Because no ones believes you any more. You lost your credibility a long time ago.

  24. Shelley

    Good to hear, yes I take a break too. I am not a prolific poster but I do read it alot, there’s so much good on here.

    SA – well I have the feeling that the new Marshall government is going the way of the Abbott government in its first few months. They waited so long to get into government but now seem to be taking their time. They got rid of a few useless CEs initially but there (to me anyway) is a sense of inertia. You would think after 16 years that they would be a bit more energetic and prepared on the front foot. The Minister who in opposition had good runs against Labor about their poor child protection record (not hard to do given how appalling it was) was caught out playing golf in the first few weeks before she had met with child protection heads. She thought it was for a charity, then had to withdraw it because as it turned out whoops, not for a charity. Another Minister made a to-do about opposition member dropping into a local fire station with donuts. Not boding well nine weeks in.

    Also yesterday the Minister in charge of energy (cant think of his proper title) wants to get 50,000 batteries into homes (subsidised of course) and doesn’t want to ‘throw the baby out with the bathwater’ as Labor had some good policies. So it seems this minister is another renewable loon. Sigh.

    Meet the old boss…

  25. johanna

    OldOzzie, your post on the previous page about how money can be transferred without the banks clipping the ticket was very interesting indeed. Thanks.

    That said, it could have been done with a para or two and a link.

    Thread-hogging is an unattractive trait.

  26. Delta A

    It seems she represents her state.

    Correction: she represents those within her state who voted for her.

    That leaves me out.

  27. Mother Lode

    why is Julie Bishop not assisting this Australian citizen

    The utter want of French or Italian fashion outlets in Phnom Penh is considered an insurmountable obstacle to the Foreign Minister being able to effectively fulfill her role.

    And if she managed to find some place that accidentally was sufficiently chic for the female equivalent of Bob Carr, the clothes would likely be made sizes for the locals – and would billow on her like a deflated hot air balloon on an ant. She could be lost on the folds of fabric for days.

    And the cocktail bars in the hotels? Puh-leease!

  28. Herodotus

    Interesting turn of phrase used in the story about the beastly conservatives sponsoring a western civilisation course at ANU.

    “If this is true, we are very concerned that this would violate the core principles of academic freedom, integrity and independence, and reflects an ignorance of, or disregard for, the role of the academic board as final arbiter of academic standards,” Mr King wrote.

    What they are on about is, like the ABC, the freedom and independence to be as left and loopy as they like.

  29. But the plain fact is that they are unbelievable to.anyone who wasn’t brainwashed into them at an early age. If someone tried to sell you on the Greek gods or the Hindu pantheon, you’d reject them as fairy tales. That’s exactly how your beliefs look to almost everyone these days.

    And yet the Apostles themselves were not ‘brainwashed into them at an early age’, nor are those that convert or revert later in life. Further, classical theism is so different to polytheism that the comparison fails miserably; works well as a contrast though.

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    “If this is true, we are very concerned that this would violate the core principles of academic freedom, integrity and independence, and reflects an ignorance of, or disregard for, the role of the academic board as final arbiter of academic standards,” Mr King wrote.

    Maybe someone should ask Mr King about Peter Ridd’s academic freedom and independence.

  31. johanna

    Shelley, it is sad but true that most State politicians are the ones considered not good enough to go Federal. And, we all know how pathetic our Federal ones are.

    Anyway, good to hear that you are still around.

    Best – J

  32. johanna

    PS Shelley – is anyone in the least exercised about Alex Downer’s role in undermining the Trump campaign?

  33. Motelier

    Delta,

    Sorry but unfortunately you are tarred by association. We still love you, but the loons that voted for Sarah Two-Fathers will continue to vote for the likes of her.

    Perfessor Green and his wife think she is brilliant as is the Wong Chap. That they have fallen for the “Green” socialist utopia is telling.

    I could be wrong but Green voting could be hereditary.

  34. Shelley

    Not that I have read or heard on the local radio Johanna. My electorate is the one that his daughter is vying for – crickets in the local paper too.

  35. Dave in Marybrook

    ABC News, 6 in the morn here-
    Mozza has announced expensive tax cuts will cost much more than anticipated.

  36. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And yet the Apostles themselves were not ‘brainwashed into them at an early age’, nor are those that convert or revert later in life. Further, classical theism is so different to polytheism that the comparison fails miserably; works well as a contrast though.

    deflection and straw man and god only what other devices you have used to avoid the question.

    classical theism is full of mystical types, angels, demons, devil etc etc. as much by-products of neural computation as pantheons of egyptian, greeks, norse or hindu.

  37. Rae

    Sir Thomas Moore reincarnated

    A Cat for all seasons.

    Spellsheck : More … as they say … is less.

  38. C.L.

    Criminal James Comey emerges from silence, admits illegal spying by multiple spies

    James Comey✔@Comey
    Facts matter. The FBI’s use of Confidential Human Sources (the actual term) is tightly regulated and essential to protecting the country. Attacks on the FBI and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. How will Republicans explain this to their grandchildren?

  39. johanna

    Ignorance, cultural cringe and self-loathing do not belong in quality universities. This is why Australian National University leaders must not be swayed by the ideologically driven protests of academic and student union leaders to a proposed new degree, to be backed by the Ramsay Centre for Western Civilisation. National Tertiary Education Union branch president Matthew King says the centre “seeks to pursue a narrow, radically conservative program to demonstrate and promulgate the alleged superiority of Western culture and civilisation”.

    It just goes to show how totalitarian the Left is that it seeks to quash a modest program with a few scholarships. What are they so scared of?

    BTW, Gerard Henderson has taken a personal dislike to Simon Haines, who is the CEO of this project. Gerard has trashed Simon Haines on his woof woof site as a sycophantic pushover.

    I’ve known Simon since we were students at ANU, although not well. I’ve also known his wife since then.

    Despite Gerard’s visceral and unsupported bile, Simon is no pushover. He is polite (something that bilious Gerard claims to value) but anyone who thinks that he is a pushover is in for a surprise. There is a steel fist under the velvet glove.

  40. cohenite

    Just glanced at the creep, monty’s comments about Trump and wussia. They make no sense. Take the ME. Russia is firmly in iran’s corner and Trump is pummelling iran. The creep says that is because Saudi arabia want that to happen but Trump is not doing the fuckers from Saudi’s wishes; he has laid down the law to them and made the US energy independent from them.

    Mony is a grub, a creep and his tortured twists and lies about mueller and the rest of these bastards should not be viewed with humour or tolerance because his comments reflect the position of the left and the Western culture destruction they are pursuing.

  41. cohenite

    In other news:

    Girls in Sweden are being advised that if they fear being taken overseas to be subjected to a forced marriage or Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) that they should hide a spoon in their underwear.

  42. Entropy

    Delta A
    #2718690, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:44 am
    It seems she represents her state.

    Correction: she represents those within her state who voted for her.

    That leaves me out.

    Come out of her my people!

  43. Rae

    The “intellectual” Senator Hanson-Young is from Mainland Tasmania.

    Whereas the ineffectual Senator Abetz is from actual Tasmania.

  44. johanna

    Shelley
    #2718704, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:00 am

    Not that I have read or heard on the local radio Johanna. My electorate is the one that his daughter is vying for – crickets in the local paper too.

    Amazing – the biggest political scandal for many decades, Alexander Downer is in the middle of it, and no-one is asking questions?

    Those journalism degrees don’t seem to be delivering much to taxpayers.

  45. stackja

    Queen Victoria 24 May 1819 – remembered by Empire Day. Cracker Night!

  46. An interesting experience with Bill Hill, the punters friend:
    Winston wanted a flutter on the Australian Conservatives winning one Senate seat. At 21:1, it seemed like a good idea. So he put $1500 into his account.
    Bill Hill has refused the bet saying it is too high and they would only cover it for $50.
    You don’t know this until you have money in the account and try to make the bet.
    I told them to stick it – go hard or go home – and requested the money be transferred back to the original account.
    Winston gets an email this morning full of TechnoAccounting Truspeak which tell me that the funds had purchased (my words) “betting tokens” and that a transfer of these “tokens” was not possible under these circumstances – get this – because a bet had not been made!
    My reply states that the reasoning is bizarre and that funds need to be returned ASAP.

    I’ll let you know how it goes.

  47. Roger

    Queen Victoria 24 May 1819 – remembered by Empire Day. Cracker Night!

    Cracker Night in QLD was 5th November & was still called Guy Fawkes Night too.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    No trigger warnings necessary in this instance.

    Indeed, I like watching her cooking shoes – her chocolate cakes are just the ticket when feeling a little dejected with the world.

  49. Tintarella di Luna

    Her cooking shows a pretty good too — her shoes are flatties which I cannot wear or I’d disappear

  50. Motelier

    The “intellectual” Senator Hanson-Young is from Mainland Tasmania.

    Whereas the ineffectual Senator Abetz is from actual Tasmania.

    Of course he is Captain Oblivious, but we here at the cat are equal opportunity. All politicians cop it no matter what side they come from.

    But, being a digital native, I am sure you knew that.

  51. Motelier

    Winston, can you do 300 bets at fifty bucks?

  52. Roger

    My reply states that the reasoning is bizarre and that funds need to be returned ASAP.

    William Hill Rules reserve the right to declare a wager void and return the stake (17, b, 1).

    They have declared your wager void and should return your funds,Winston – point this out to them if need be.

  53. Shy Ted

    Marvel Studio announces first-ever Muslim superhero to hit the big screen. President Kevin Feige said his company plans to extrapolate Ms Marvel, aka Kamala Khan – a 16-year-old Pakistani-American Muslim – from its comic book series and bring the fictional character to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fictional superhero Kamala, introduced in 2014, presents a nuanced portrayal of Muslim Americans and pushes past entrenched stereotypes about Islam. She fights crime, while leading a typical teenage life in New Jersey and shows the challenges that children of immigrant parents often face with their identity and sense of belonging. Mr Feige has not specified who would play superhero Ms Marvel – but fans are speculating that it could be Indian actress Priyanka Chopra.
    Needs a better name. Chopra Clitoff? Kamala Khan’t?

  54. Snoopy

    Here’s a hint for you, Monty. If you’re going to use the old squirrel distraction trick, it’s best to use a live squirrel.

  55. Shy Ted

    “Hello Inga, would you like to see my impression of a spoon?”

  56. Does DrBG have any explanation for adult converts, if which there are many?

    Pompous mediocrity.

  57. 132andBush

    Ahh Nigella ( Who has lost too much weight ).
    What’s that in er ear?

  58. Roger

    Does DrBG have any explanation for adult converts, if which there are many?

    C.S. Lewis knew a thing or two about mythology and the difference between it and theism.

  59. Tintarella di Luna

    Ahh Nigella ( Who has lost too much weight ).

    I think so too but still a lovely face – she’s lost at least 20 kgs by the looks

  60. Baldrick

    It’s wall to wall fake news on Trump Derangement Syndrome over at TheirABC today:

    ABC News @abcnews
    Ukraine reportedly paid Trump lawyer to arrange White House talks
    ____
    ABC News @abcnews
    Trump says US-China trade deal ‘too hard to get done’
    ____
    ABC News @abcnews
    Donald Trump can’t block people on Twitter, judge rules

    Leftards gonna hate.

  61. calli

    classical_hero
    #2718620, posted on May 24, 2018 at 2:15 am
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEevcK1XsAAxxJV.jpg

    This was the meme calli was talking about earlier on. Back to catching up on the threads.

    Thanks, CH. It reflects my first thought as a gazed on the Mount from the Mount of Olives.

  62. Old School Conservative

    From The Oz:

    At least six male teachers were having sex with teenage girls at a Sydney high school around the time murder suspect Chris Dawson taught there in the 1980s, ­according to a former student.

    Hedley Thomas has belled the cat of sexual abuse at State High Schools.
    No wonder TLS expressly protected her union mates by leaving them out of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

  63. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume up.

    70s Classic

    Gonna Fly Now (Theme from Rocky)
    – Maynard Ferguson (high-notes trumpeter)

  64. Tom

    Thread-hogging is an unattractive trait.

    Nothing for you to worry about, Johanna. You contribute plenty. Great to have you back.

    It turns out that the management’s advice on trolls is actually a satire of itself and, if your only reason for being here is to attack others, make an arsehole of yourself and contribute nothing, you are most welcome.

    I totally understand why you wanted time away from Doomlord’s troll swamp.

  65. feelthebern

    How is the recovery going Baldrick ?

  66. Roger

    C.S. Lewis knew a thing or two about mythology and the difference between it and theism.

    As did T.S. Eliot & Enoch Powell (a classical scholar & professor of Greek at the University of Sydney before his political incarnation), who both also converted to classical Christian theism in its orthodox Anglican form in later life. Lewis, though, reflected on the subject often in his non-fiction writings. Not that I’m appealing to authority 😉 but the spiritual journeys of these men and others like them can be very instructive.

  67. feelthebern

    monty getting chased around post Trump being cleared of everything.

  68. Motelier

    Tom,
    How can I not be an arsehole to Rae and socks.

    The are sure I am one, so it must be.

  69. stackja

    US parents win court battle to evict son
    Deutsche Presse Agentur
    May 24, 2018 12:16am
    An upstate New York couple have won a court case to force their 30-year-old son to leave home.

    Mark and Christina Rotondo took the matter to the Onondaga County Supreme Court after their son Michael ignored five notices between February and April requesting he leave their home in Camillus, about 420 kilometres north-west of Manhattan, Syracuse.com reported.

    After spending 30 minutes arguing with the younger Rotondo, Justice Donald Greenwood ordered him to leave the house and for adult protective services to investigate.

    Rotondo had earlier cited a prior case which showed family members are allowed six months notice prior to eviction, which the judge said an appellate court decision had overriden.

    Greenwood said Rotondo’s demand for six more months in the house was “outrageous,” which was the same word the plaintiff used to describe the judge’s eviction order.

    No specific deadline for Rotondo to leave was mentioned in court, though his parents’ lawyer Anthony Adorante said reasonable time would be allowed for him vacate.

    After telling reporters outside the court that he planned to appeal the decision, Rotondo returned to his parents’ home.

  70. feelthebern

    I totally understand why you wanted time away from Doomlord’s troll swamp.

    Tom, there is only one troll.
    & monty isn’t it.
    monty is like the fat kid at school who always used to get stuck on the climbing equipment.
    Maybe irritating, but fun to watch.

  71. Tom

    Always good to see you, Motelier. I imagine you’re having great fun on Twitter.

  72. stackja

    Roger
    #2718724, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:33 am
    Queen Victoria 24 May 1819 – remembered by Empire Day. Cracker Night!

    Cracker Night in QLD was 5th November & was still called Guy Fawkes Night too.

    I read somewhere May was selected as good weather for bonfires.

  73. areff

    Baldrick: Have you read that BBC-source, Reuter-summarised, ABC-propagated Ukraine-Trump story? What a shlock pot!

    All the principals deny money changed hands. The amount of money is variously reported as $400k and $600K. There is no evidence of anything but a normal photo-op in the White House and a bit of a chat.

    On a related note, watch Clapper spruiking his book on The View, especially at the nine-minute mark where he excuses his perjury in regard to the surveillance of US citizens. He claims Wyden, his questioner, posed his query in terms of such “euphemism” he didn’t quite understand and gave a wrong but honest answer.

    Well here’s the exchange. No euphemism apparent. Just a flat-out lie. Key question at the 6.00 minute mark:

  74. calli

    It is line-ball between the male lech who hated me because I wouldn’t come across and the female psycho who micromanaged me until I wanted to punch her lights out.

    My experience to a “T”, decades apart. In the 70’s, it was the creepy guy telling you to unbutton your shirt – pathetic but at least simple and direct. In the 90’s, the control freak who wanted to change you into something more like herself with endless offers of courses and “training”.

    I don’t know which was the more aggravating.

  75. Cactus

    Reply to Winston Smith re: wagering.

    I had started dabbling in Political Bets. Won $4k on Brexit, $1.2k on The Australian Federal Election and rolled it into winning $10k on Trump. I wanted to wager more on Trump but SportsBet stopped accepting my bets. Now they wont accept any of my bets on anything meaningful re Politics. I tried to make a $100 bet on the Liberal Leadership and it dropped it down to $5-10. Not worth doing. They have no problems taking my money on sports bets however if I do. I don’t know enough about sports so I stay away from that.

    It is a bit rude that they ban people who repeatedly win. I had thought the business model was to have a big pool of bets, take an agency cut and then distribute to the winners. Apparently not. They only want losers betting with each other.

    Anyway, I took my winnings and bought some nice Red for the Cellar for Brexit and Trump. Plan to drink them 20 years after the fact and review the outcome.

  76. calli

    Roger, I love the way Lewis describes his conversion. He goes off for a walk, a determined unbeliever. Somewhere along the way he’s ambushed. And he’s not happy about it at all.

  77. Roger

    the female psycho who micromanaged me until I wanted to punch her lights out…the control freak who wanted to change you into something more like herself with endless offers of courses and “training”.

    “She’s the sort of woman who lives for others – you can tell the others by their hunted expression.”

    C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC News @abcnews
    Donald Trump can’t block people on Twitter, judge rules

    This is going to blow back on the Left big time.
    It means every single politician in the US now cannot block twitter comments.
    As we all know the Lefties are the ones who block at the blink of an eye.
    Winning!

  79. Baldrick

    All good ftb. The rebore and sleeve should have me firing on all eight cylinders soon enough.

  80. Tom

    Catcus, Winston: corporate bookies are notorious for being a law unto themselves, not just on political bets. Whenever they identify a winner who knows what he’s doing, they change the rules to stop him laying big bets. Lifetime pro punter John Rothfield (aka Dr Turf) is scathing on the subject. Thankfully, there are dozens of corporate bookies operating in Australia. Keep shopping around until you find one to take your bet.

  81. Gab

    Baldy do you reside in NSW?

  82. egg_

    China threatens to teach Australia a lesson…

    “He who threatens has lost”?
    Confucius saying?

  83. Snoopy

    Is there a bigger fuckwit on ABC television than Joe O’Brien?

  84. egg_

    The chinese communist party does not interfere in australias domestic political process,

    What were they using Dastyari for – targeting youth?
    Senate influence?

  85. Geriatric mayfly

    Is there a bigger fuckwit on ABC television than Joe O’Brien?

    He’s close to the top.

    Abetz grilling Sutherland again. The 7pm. News under the spotlight.

  86. Tel;

    China threatening to keep their own people hungry and sober? Gosh, that’s gonna hurt. I think I can make up the difference, not to worry guys.

    That’s cool – the ching chongs can buy the same product at market, not contract prices.

  87. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I wanted to wager more on Trump but SportsBet stopped accepting my bets. Now they wont accept any of my bets on anything meaningful re Politics. I tried to make a $100 bet on the Liberal Leadership and it dropped it down to $5-10. Not worth doing.

    you generally have to call them to put on larger bets. the systems automatically downsize you as some sort of safeguard, but if you call them they generally will take the bet. I ended up with around $15k riding on Trump, there is some upper limit but you can spread bets on multiple sites.

  88. egg_

    Calling out the obvious, completely off the reservation!

    Hastie and others are doing Lord Waffleworth’s dirty work?

  89. Baldrick

    areff
    #2718759, posted on May 24, 2018 at 9:21 am
    Baldrick: Have you read that BBC-source, Reuter-summarised, ABC-propagated Ukraine-Trump story? What a shlock pot!

    It’s fake news personified areff, all the more poignant when you consider this tweet was put out one full hour before TheirABC completely ignored it and copy/pasted the BBC sludge:

    Christopher Miller ✔ @ChristopherJM (Ukrainian correspondent)
    Ukrainian President Poroshenko’s office just sent me this in response to report by BBC that Kyiv paid Cohen to fix White House visit with Trump: ‘Blantant lie, slander and fake …’

  90. Geriatric mayfly

    News or imaginative story telling, what do we get at 7pm on the ABC ?

  91. egg_

    Is there a bigger fuckwit on ABC television than Joe O’Brien?

    He’s close to the top.

    The Chief Canberra Political Editor just pips him IMHO.

  92. Zatara;

    Democrats entered 2018 with a double-digit lead in the congressional generic ballot, upwards of 15 points in some polls. Yet somehow in May, their lead in the RealClearPolitics average has shrunk to just four points. In some generic polls, such as the Reuters survey, the Democrats’ lead has disappeared entirely. In fact, in the most recent Reuters’ poll, Republicans are up more than six points generically.

    Is that with the ádjusted eight percent weighting to favour Democrats because fair?

  93. Ragu

    Whenever they identify a winner who knows what he’s doing, they change the rules to stop him laying big bets. 

    That’s not entirely true.

    Isn’t there some dude in Sydney that makes a billion a year from the tote?

  94. egg_

    News or imaginative story telling, what do we get at 7pm on the ABC ?

    Aunty massaging the Rainbow Serpent.

  95. Top Ender

    After telling reporters outside the court that he planned to appeal the decision, Rotondo returned to his parents’ home

    US justice tends to be swifter than ours.

    Should be prime reality television when the bailiffs arrive to finally turf him out.

  96. deflection and straw man and god only what other devices you have used to avoid the question.

    Zippy, where is the ‘deflection’ or ‘strawman’ or any other fallacy in my response? I poked the question at the relevant point. In fact, I did the courtesy of not pointing out the fallacy (genetic) in the claim I was responding to.

    classical theism is full of mystical types, angels, demons, devil etc etc. as much by-products of neural computation as pantheons of egyptian, greeks, norse or hindu.

    You are so clueless about these matters that you try and tart up your blather by referencing all manner of neurobabble. It doesn’t work even on the level of rhetoric.

  97. egg_

    But, being a digital native, I am sure you knew that.

    Digital native = Proctologist?
    Is that what he does on the rounds with Matron?
    Enemas and stool samples?

  98. jupes

    50 years ago today this rock masterpiece was released:

    Jumpin’ Jack Flash

    50 years!

  99. Roger

    The Latitudinarian Pope’s Long Game.

    Linker’s thesis is plausible: rather than an unthinkable head on attack on the edifice of Roman orthodoxy, the pope slowly chips away at it with ambiguities from behind a wall of plausible deniability, believing that time is on his side.

  100. Ragu

    Good riff, but the amount of drugs used to make that video would fill a b-double. How big were Mick’s pupils!

  101. Zatara

    “Prosecutors said 31 fraud charges against Mr Blewitt that were due to be heard in Perth Magistrates Court would be discontinued because there was little prospect of conviction.”

    My that sounds familiar. Oh yeah….

    Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of “classified information (by Hillary), our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.” – James Comey

    Well gee fellas, how about we give it a try and let a jury decide that?

    You know, the way the system works for anyone without a left twist Teflon vagina?

  102. Aussieute

    Plain packaging for cigarettes was a raging success … NOT
    Wait for it …. more of the same with a similar outcome I’d suggest

    Health experts are calling for graphic images to be included on junk food packaging in a bid to combat obesity. A study by the University of Melbourne and Cancer Council Victoria found warnings not dissimilar to those found on cigarette packets cause people to exercise self-control instead of acting on impulse when purchasing junk food items. Researchers say the images disrupt mental cues such as taste that are typically triggered by seeing junk food.

  103. Old School Conservative

    Standard Operating procedure for the Liars Party.

    From The Oz:

    A doctored transcript of a tough TV interview with Labor MP Linda Burney was sent from the office of Bill Shorten.

    The transcript was from a difficult interview with Sky News host David Speers, with Ms Burney saying there should be a time limit on how long detainees stay on Manus Island or Nauru.

    Ms Burney’s office claimed the doctoring was a “mistake”.

    It wasn’t intended to be doctored,” the spokesman said.

    I’ll bet the ABC files this one in the forgettery.

  104. cohenite

    Is there a bigger fuckwit on ABC television than Joe O’Brien?

    Yes, yes there is.

  105. Roger

    Yes, yes there is.

    Charlie Pickering & Will Anderson, for starters.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fraud charges against confessed union “bagman” Ralph Blewitt have been dropped, signalling the possible end of an Australian Workers Union slush fund saga that has dogged Julia Gillard and former boyfriend Bruce Wilson for more than two decades.

    Prosecutors said 31 fraud charges against Mr Blewitt that were due to be heard in Perth Magistrates Court would be discontinued because there was little prospect of conviction.

    Seems that a certain Western Australian Senators office isn’t returning calls, as to whether or not she said “Julia Gilliard is an ex – Prime Minister, and because of that, she won’t be charged.”

  107. Tom

    Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Tucker Carlson calls Nancy Pelosi an “animal rights activist”. Top shelf.

  108. Top Ender

    Cowards:

    The National Football League will fine teams if players on the field refuse to stand for the national anthem, the league said.

    Some NFL players knelt during the anthem to protest police shootings of unarmed black men, sparking a controversy that pulled in even US President Donald Trump, who criticised the players as being unpatriotic.

    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said teams will be fined if players on the field fail to stand during the Star-Spangled Banner.

    Players who choose not to stand may now remain in the locker room until after the anthem is finished.

    The NFL Players Association criticised the new policy, saying it was not consulted and that it may issue a challenge.

    Link

  109. calli

    Researchers say the images disrupt mental cues such as taste that are typically triggered by seeing junk food.

    A glance at the patrons chowing down is not enough deterrent?

    And what constitutes “junk” food? Control of portion size and frequency of eating might be more helpful, but there’s no role for government in that.

  110. egg_

    Yes, yes there is.

    Charlie Pickering & Will Anderson, for starters.

    Adam Hills.
    Aren’t there Golden Knob Awards?

  111. Zatara

    ABC News @abcnews
    Donald Trump can’t block people on Twitter, judge rules

    This is going to blow back on the Left big time.
    It means every single politician in the US now cannot block twitter comments.

    Actually, she wasn’t brave or stupid enough to directly order Trump to unblock anyone.

    “Because no government official is above the law and because all government officials are presumed to follow the law once the judiciary has said what the law is, we must assume that the President and Scavino will remedy the blocking we have held to be unconstitutional,” Buchwald wrote.

    But she also said:

    “(A) Twitter account is a public forum and blocking people who reply to his tweets with differing opinions constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.”

    Which suggests that NOBODY can block twitter comments and she knows that one isn’t going to fly.

    Bottom line, a nothing-burger unless the plaintiffs have the cash to go hunt another tame judge try and take this to trial again.

  112. Old School Conservative

    All In The Family.

    1. Salim Mehajer’s lawyer sister Zenah Osman has been struck off over serious misconduct including signing and serving false affidavits, attempting to mislead the Federal Court and for claiming to represent people and companies she didn’t.

    2. Last month Salim Mehajer was found to have engaged in a “joint criminal enterprise” with another sister, Fatima, to rig the 2012 Auburn Council elections.

    From The Oz. No comments allowed.

  113. egg_

    And what constitutes “junk” food?

    Aren’t the Fast Food Restaurant chains’ salads higher in calories than their burgers, due to sugar and oil to add flavour?

    The troll’s sugar and fat brouhaha.

  114. C.L.

    National Tertiary Education Union branch president Matthew King says the centre “seeks to pursue a narrow, radically conservative program to demonstrate and promulgate the alleged superiority of Western culture and civilisation”.

    Alleged.
    LOL.

  115. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Zippy, where is the ‘deflection’ or ‘strawman’ or any other fallacy in my response? I poked the question at the relevant point. In fact, I did the courtesy of not pointing out the fallacy (genetic) in the claim I was responding to.

    You didn’t answer the question, apparently a “fallacy” because it is self-obvious, but that was exactly the question to bring out into the light the nature of this self-obviousness. There is nothing obvious about the nature of this except to a true believer because it’s grounded in “faith” rather than the annoying demand for facts.

    These questions are not a test of your faith, even though you insist on using them as such to defend your faith. If the questions challenges your faith then that is your problem. Circuitousness, self-obviousness, deflection and denial are insufficient to answer the questions posed.

    You pointed out no fallacy that isn’t grounded in faith. To people without this faith, it’s just a load of waffle.

    I can’t see any meaningful difference in the validity or veracity of say the greek pantheon and the christian pantheon of supernatural beings and deities. Waffle won’t cut it.

  116. C.L.

    CL, I deeply sympathise, I really feel for you, and to a much lesser extent, Sheridan. I understand that you were brought up to believe these things and do..

    But the plain fact is that they are unbelievable to.anyone who wasn’t brainwashed into them at an early age. If someone tried to sell you on the Greek gods or the Hindu pantheon, you’d reject them as fairy tales. That’s exactly how your beliefs look to almost everyone these days.

    I understand that the consequences of loss of faith have been frightful. But there’s no going back. And as you point out, sloppy thinking of people like Sheridan has made things worse.

    It always amuses me how many hundreds of words atheists expend on beliefs too silly for words.
    That’s before we get to the credibility of a “going back” argument from the people who brought you Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Tse-tung.

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gavin McInnes
    @Gavin_McInnes
    The Alt-Left is driving the apolitical right and we’re here with a big net trying to catch them before they go Alt-Right.

    What a f$cking p$ssy.
    Look at this guy.

  118. C.L.

    Ahahahahahaha.
    He didn’t expect them to show up and demand their discovery rights.

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller asked a federal judge Tuesday to reject the four-decade-old speedy trial law in the case against 13 Russians and three Russian companies and has asked for an indefinite delay to the Russian collusion trial

    The “complexity” of the case warrants excluding the speedy trial law and delaying the trial, Mueller argued in Tuesday’s court filing…

    “This case also warrants a continuance and exclusion of time to accommodate the voluminous discovery at issue and to allow sufficient time for the Court to resolve certain outstanding procedural issues unique to discovery in this case,” he continued.

    The man defending America from Wussian evils wants US civil rights and established law overthrown so he can doctor the discovery documents and hide an illegal spying operation. He hates America.

  119. Stimpson J. Cat

    New Kanye Is Best Kanye

    KANYE WEST
    KANYE WEST
    @kanyewest
    there was a time when we completely operated without phones. We’re addicted to our phones.

  120. Zatara

    News industry suffers from self-inflicted wounds

    Media blunders over the last several weeks dishearten even the most ardent defenders of journalism. The damage done at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner will take years to undo. The vulgar display by a so-called comedian was only part of what ails this overblown tribute to journalists’ self-importance. That our nation’s top journalists and news executives want to hob-nob with the powerful politicians, corporate fat cats and entertainers that should be the subjects of news coverage is the real mistake. This event demonstrates that the news industry is firmly entrenched in the elite establishment, living in an alternative universe disconnected from real people.

    Surveys of media credibility from Gallup and Pew Research show dismal results, and that decline in trust was well underway before Trump began his constant bashing of journalism. Surveys show confidence in news sources is quite low across all political groupings, with right-leaning and independents particularly distrustful of news outlets.

    It will take courageous leadership to turn the news industry around. It will take corporate leaders who have read the history of why a First Amendment was created in the first place. It will take leaders who have read (and abide by) the ethics codes of the Society of Professional Journalists and the Radio Television Digital News Association.

    If only it was an exclusively US problem.

  121. Senile Old Guy

    “(A) Twitter account is a public forum and blocking people who reply to his tweets with differing opinions constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.”

    Um, no. A twitter account is not a public forum unless it is set up to be. This is one of the settings:

    Your Tweets are currently protected; only those you approve will receive your Tweets. Your future Tweets will not be available publicly.

    As usual, judges and magistrates are clueless when it comes to technology.

  122. Old School Conservative

    Thanks P.
    I enjoyed the Muggeridge article.

  123. H B Bear

    No trigger warnings necessary in this instance.

    Seems to have lost weight. Must be back on the coke.

  124. Linker’s thesis is plausible: rather than an unthinkable head on attack on the edifice of Roman orthodoxy, the pope slowly chips away at it with ambiguities from behind a wall of plausible deniability, believing that time is on his side.

    Possibly, but you have to wait a very long time, indeed, to overcome the previous two millennia of clear and authoritative teaching.

  125. Slayer of Memes

    Countdown to mUnty lobbing a couple of drive-by squirrels….

    Jared Kushner receives permanent security clearance, an indication he is no longer a focus of the special counsel

    Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, was notified Wednesday that he has been granted a permanent security clearance to view top-secret material an indication that he may no longer be under scrutiny by the special counsel, who had been investigating his foreign contacts and other activities.

    Last month, Kushner sat for about six hours of questioning by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s team on a wide range of topics, including his meetings with foreign officials during Trump’s transition and Trump’s firing of FBI Director James B. Comey, according to Abbe Lowell, Kushner’s attorney.

    The interview — his second session with the special counsel — came nearly a year after The Washington Post reported that investigators were examining contacts Kushner had with high-level Russians during the presidential transition.

    Kushner’s permanent clearance was granted by career White House and intelligence officials after the completion of his FBI background check, according to a person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. This person confirmed that Kushner was granted a top-secret clearance, a level he had previously held on an interim basis.

    Current and former law enforcement officials said it would be very unusual for someone to get a full security clearance if there were an ongoing criminal investigation that had the potential to result in charges for that person.

    Mark Zaid, a lawyer who specializes in security clearance issues for government employees, said the decision — absent any new facts coming out — “is a very positive sign for Kushner that he is substantively in the clear with the special counsel’s office.”

    “Theoretically, there could be something so sensitive that the special counsel’s office is not sharing it with other agencies, but I think that’s less likely,” he added.

    A spokesman for the special counsel declined to comment.

    Government officials and investigators doing background security checks seek and share information with those doing criminal investigations so they are aware of any probes that could embroil or raise concerns about a federal employee seeking a clearance.

    Clearance experts said government officials want to avoid giving a clearance to anyone who might be suspected of a crime or face charges.

    The FBI’s background check into Kushner’s financial history and foreign contacts took more than a year, and his clearance level was downgraded in February, becoming a source of uncertainty for the West Wing aide and blocking him from approved access to some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets.

    “With respect to the news about his clearances, as we stated before, his application was properly submitted, reviewed by numerous career officials and underwent the normal process,” Lowell said in a statement. “Having completed all of these processes, he’s looking forward to continuing to do the work the president has asked him to do.”

    The New York Times was first to report Kushner’s permanent clearance.

    Lowell said Kushner has been voluntarily cooperating with Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    Kushner has had two interview sessions with the special counsel’s team. The first set of questions, which he answered in November, centered largely on former national security adviser Michael Flynn, according to the person familiar with the matter.

    Then, in mid-April, Kushner sat for six to seven hours of questions that covered many topics, including his work on the Trump campaign, the transition and in the White House and about Trump’s decision in May 2017 to fire Comey.

    The special counsel’s questioning focused on Kushner’s work with Trump and did not include topics such as Kushner’s personal finances or those of his family business, Kushner Companies, according to the person familiar with the matter.

    Lowell said that Kushner last year became “one of the first to voluntarily cooperate with any investigation into the 2016 campaign and related topics.”

    “Since then, he has continued this complete cooperation, providing a large number of documents and sitting for hours of interviews with congressional committees and providing numerous documents and sitting for two interviews with the office of special counsel,” Lowell said. “In each occasion, he answered all questions asked and did whatever he could to expedite the conclusion of all the investigations.”

    In February, Kushner’s interim security clearance was downgraded from “top secret” to the far less sensitive “secret” level amid reports that foreign governments had been overheard discussing how easily they felt they could manipulate him, in part because of his company’s financial debts.

    His financial situation has since improved markedly. Kushner’s family business is finalizing a deal to finance its most troubled Manhattan property, 666 Fifth Ave., which faces a deadline early next year for repayment of a $1.2 billion debt. Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian real estate firm, said this month that it was close to an agreement to invest in the property.

    An ongoing criminal investigation into a person would delay a decision on that person’s security clearance, said Zaid, the national security lawyer, adding that there can also be counterintelligence concerns so sensitive that the investigators would not share them with the agency handling the security clearance review.

    Knowledge of a criminal probe “would generally delay adjudication, and it has been my view that was one of the reasons Kushner’s clearance was being delayed, along with a whole host of things given how complicated his case is,” Zaid said.

    Even with an interim clearance, the president’s son-in-law had been allowed for months to see materials, including the president’s daily brief, that are among the most sensitive in government.

    That dynamic long vexed the administration — so much so that some officials felt uncertain on how to deal with other White House employees in similar straits. At one point, the White House had dozens of workers awaiting permanent clearances before Chief of Staff John F. Kelly ordered an overhaul of the process.

    When he joined the administration, Kushner had to file three updates to his national security questionnaire, a form that guides the FBI background check and asks for information about a person’s employment history, finances, family, travel and other matters.

    Initially, Kushner did not list his foreign contacts on the form, though he submitted an addendum indicating he was willing to detail them. He submitted another addendum in mid-May 2017 detailing more than 100 calls or meetings with representatives of more than 20 countries. Then, in June, Kushner filed a third addendum acknowledging a meeting he had in June 2016 at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer offering damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

    Some experts said that the evolving disclosures might have been disqualifying for another person and that it could explain the delay in granting Kushner a clearance.

    But experts also pointed to more innocuous explanations, including that Kushner’s extensive travel and overseas contacts, as well as his business interests, are more complex than many incoming government officials’ and might have taken more time for the FBI to explore.

    Wussia narrative has finished swirling around the bowl, and has almost completely navigated around the S-bend…

    All that’s left is the ‘Stormy’ narrative ….and now that Avenatti’s law firm is facing a $10million dollar payout to a former employee, to be enforced by a Californian bankruptcy court, that one is also swirling around about to be flushed too

  126. nemkat

    And what constitutes “junk” food? Control of portion size and frequency of eating might be more helpful, but there’s no role for government in that.

    Hang on a flash:
    You’ve been saying in recent times that you’ve had great results from the Ketogenic Diet, so you should be able to answer the question of what constitutes ”Junk Food”.
    https://draxe.com/hub/keto-diet/ketogenic-diet-food-list/

  127. egg_

    the greek pantheon

    Interesting that the Greek model is still used in QM, but it’s probably really electron clouds and probabilities of nucleus locations.
    Likewise, molecules represented as crystal lattices.

  128. Senile Old Guy

    The blurb for a new detective novel:

    When Detective Inspector Roger Bailley returns to work as Robyn, all she wants is to get on with the job she loves while finally being herself. When toddler Ben Chivers is snatched from a shopping centre on her first day back at work, Robyn has to find Ben and herself as she deals with the reactions of her police colleagues, the media and her own daughter.

    Yours for the sum of $0.94, which, needless to say, I will not be paying.

    #1 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Professional & Technical > Law > Perspectives on Law > Gender & the Law
    #2 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Politics & Social Sciences > Social Sciences

    I think those ratings are revealing. A detective novel which rates highly in the categories of “Gender and the law” and “social sciences”.

  129. Tel

    Sports Illustrated Swimsuit: Hip cleavage is summer’s hottest new trend.

    That’s a fine looking woman, pretty much perfect balance from my perspective. However she holds her hips is OK with me. 🙂

    The real problem is not a bit of plump in your 20’s it is what happens once the serious spread starts to set in during your 40’s, but hey… common sense isn’t what you go looking in fashion magazines to find. Doctors have been measuring height and weight for 100’s of years, and why? Because it’s easy to measure those things, not because they are deeply meaningful. Keys, lamp post, you know how these things work.

  130. johanna

    Called in to my favourite Indian takeaway recently and stocked up in the freezer.

    Not long after I started to consume the delicious products, my arthritic joints blew up, and it’s not the first time. There is something in Indian spice mixes that sets it off. No question.

    Treatment is more profitable than prevention or cure.

  131. Zatara

    “(A) Twitter account is a public forum and blocking people who reply to his tweets with differing opinions constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.”

    Which suggests that NOBODY can block twitter comments and she knows that one isn’t going to fly.

    I forgot to point out the most ridiculous aspect of that ruling. It also suggests that Twitter, or any other US based “public forum”, can’t block/ban anyone because 1st amendment. This is going to be fun.

    A nothing-burger with onions.

  132. You didn’t answer the question, apparently a “fallacy” because it is self-obvious, but that was exactly the question to bring out into the light the nature of this self-obviousness. There is nothing obvious about the nature of this except to a true believer because it’s grounded in “faith” rather than the annoying demand for facts.

    I don’t think the above has any plausibility as a clarifying reply, or as a meaningful reply of any sort.

    These questions are not a test of your faith, even though you insist on using them as such to defend your faith. If the questions challenges your faith then that is your problem. Circuitousness, self-obviousness, deflection and denial are insufficient to answer the questions posed.

    What question? I pointed out the obvious facts of conversion and reversion that contradict the claim that only someone ‘brainwashed at an early age’ could believe what CL or I or any other classical theist holds as being true.

    You pointed out no fallacy that isn’t grounded in faith. To people without this faith, it’s just a load of waffle.

    The genetic fallacy isn’t ‘grounded in faith’.

    I can’t see any meaningful difference in the validity or veracity of say the greek pantheon and the christian pantheon of supernatural beings and deities. Waffle won’t cut it.

    The validity or veracity of X doesn’t depend on whether you, in particular, can see any meaningful difference; that would make any claim subject to the limits of your intellect. Setting this aside, here is a meaningful difference: Aristotle reasoned himself out of polytheism and into classical theism.

  133. egg_

    “Bohr’s model is useful for understanding properties of elements and their chemical interactions. However, it doesn’t explain certain behaviors of electrons, except for those in the simplest atom, the hydrogen atom.”

  134. Snoopy

    Not long after I started to consume the delicious products, my arthritic joints blew up, and it’s not the first time.

    Sounds like gout to me.

  135. Mother Lode

    Marvel Studio announces first-ever Muslim superhero to hit the big screen. President Kevin Feige said his company plans to extrapolate Ms Marvel, aka Kamala Khan

    Let me guess – her superhero power is to wear her foes out by submissively letting them beat the super-crap out of her.

    Perhaps she can have x-ray vision that lets her see through her veil when she turns her head, and super hearing she she can distinguish (through the muffling wadding on her head) between a jackhammer and laughter.

    And when she gets home, her super-hero father (how could a woman be a super-hero by herself?) beats her around the head with kryptonite for shaming the family by going out to do super-deeds without a male member of the family.

    Woe betide what would happen if she inadvertently saved a Jieu.

  136. calli

    Oh my! Those manbuns are brave aren’t they?

  137. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    NSW Labor leader Luke Foley has defended his use of the term “white flight” when discussing the problems faced by struggling western Sydney suburbs.

  138. Snoopy

    20’s hip cleavage
    40’s knee replacements
    60’s hip replacements

  139. calli

    Sounds like MSG to me.

  140. calli

    80’s mobility scooter

  141. nemkat

    Not long after I started to consume the delicious products, my arthritic joints blew up, and it’s not the first time.
    Wheat sensitivity causing auto immune response, by the sounds, more likely than Indian spices.

  142. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I can’t see any meaningful difference in the validity or veracity of say the greek pantheon and the christian pantheon of supernatural beings and deities. Waffle won’t cut it.

    The validity or veracity of X doesn’t depend on whether you, in particular, can see any meaningful difference; that would make any claim subject to the limits of your intellect. Setting this aside, here is a meaningful difference: Aristotle reasoned himself out of polytheism and into classical theism.

    Again using self-obviousness as a ground for argument. Well I invite you to point out the meaningful difference I can’t see.

    And referring to people who “reasoned” themselves into faith is not an acceptable argument. People can reason themselves into virtually anything.

  143. Slayer of Memes

    mUnty LOVES to compare the latest ‘WUSSIA’ conspiracy with Watergate, and how it will bring down Trump…

    Why?
    The Watergate burglars broke into the office of the DNC, which resulted in the resignation of a (Republican) president.

    The idea that this might be what happens to Trump has mUnty furiously ejaculating all over the Cat in ecstasy…

    What mUnty fails to understand however is;
    by planting an informant, didn’t the Obama administration break into the Trump campaign?

    Hmmmmmm…

  144. Rossini

    Percy Popinjay
    #2718718, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:24 am

    and she can cook!

  145. Slayer of Memes

    Not long after I started to consume the delicious products, my arthritic joints blew up, and it’s not the first time.

    Wheat sensitivity causing auto immune response, by the sounds, more likely than Indian spices.

    Pretty easy to rule that in or out nemkat…

    Hey johanna… do you have the same problem when eating bread?

    If yes: Wheat..

    If no, Indian spices…

    ‘Simples’, as the meerkats might say

  146. Zatara

    Not long after I started to consume the delicious products, my arthritic joints blew up, and it’s not the first time. There is something in Indian spice mixes that sets it off.

    Curious. Cumin and particularly turmeric are strongly anti-inflammatory and would tend to have the opposite effect.

    Enough so that a friend of mine takes turmeric capsules daily for their beat-up, arthritic knees and it helps them immensely.

  147. mh

    German firm apologises for ‘racist’ post linked to Meghan Markle

    A German company has apologised after posting an image of a chocolate-covered marshmallow sweet in a bridal dress on the day of the wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

  148. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bugger!
    Forgot to send in my application:
    53 people apply for Tim Soutphommasane’s job as race discrimination commissioner

    Me too. I would do the job so well, so that is a pity.
    I would do absolutely nothing in it except take the pay cheque. I would be tremendously successful as absolutely nothing needs to be done here. The legal system works perfectly well as it is on any real issues. I am quite happy doing nothing and no other job would suit me as well as this one. Rats, foiled again by my own indolence.

  149. calli

    Now you’ve done it! Reminded me of the spice market in Acre.

    The stock photo doesn’t do it justice – pyramids of exotic, colourful spices with an unforgettable aroma. If only they did vacuum packs for Australian cooks.

    And the sweets – vast round trays of honeyed baklava-like nibblies. I’m putting on pounds just thinking about it.

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    I can’t see any meaningful difference in the validity or veracity of say the greek pantheon and the christian pantheon of supernatural beings and deities. Waffle won’t cut it.

    One important thing to remember about the ancient world is that parentage, particularly adoption was viewed very differently to the way we view it now.
    It was possible, and very common, to be adopted by a great and powerful figure and then to be raised higher in status than legitimate biological offspring.
    I have a feeling that this is originally how Jesus was perceived to be considered the Son of God, and the story was later adapted to be more literal.

  151. cohenite

    Best Girl Faith Goldy (Not A Nazi) assaulted by various Commies and Antifa.

    Video of same:

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Likely to be MSG I think. Recently in Japan I developed a very sore joint in my left hand thumb. I’ve never had any arthritis but that joint had been sore when I worked as an academic due to much marking of student work and the unusual way I hold my pen. I used to write screeds of feedback; these days it is mostly computerized forms and you do it online. I think the MSG in two weeks’ worth of Japanese delights (for I sampled everything) roused an old workplace injury.

    Where’s my compensation? 🙂

  153. cohenite

    Marvel Studio announces first-ever Muslim superhero to hit the big screen. President Kevin Feige said his company plans to extrapolate Ms Marvel, aka Kamala Khan

    What next Nazi superheros? I suppose Ms Marvel will solve the Palestinian problem.

  154. nemkat

    Indians are big on wheat, the heavy consumption of which is linked to, erm, anger issues.

  155. Zatara;

    Surveys of media credibility from Gallup and Pew Research show dismal results, and that decline in trust was well underway before Trump began his constant bashing of journalism. Surveys show confidence in news sources is quite low across all political groupings, with right-leaning and independents particularly distrustful of news outlets.

    One day, someone will ask a journo why they don’t adhere to the standards of professionalism that they demand of everyone else.
    Who will join me in a breath holding contest?

  156. Confused Old Misfit

    That our nation’s top journalists and news executives want to hob-nob with the powerful politicians, corporate fat cats and entertainers that should be the subjects of news coverage is the real mistake. This event demonstrates that the news industry is firmly entrenched in the elite establishment, living in an alternative universe disconnected from real people.

    I’ve been banging that drum for decades! This behavior was evident, particularly in news rooms of the Canadian CBC, back in the late ’70’s. I suspect it has always been a problem. More evident now as the twinkies in the trade want to signal their virtuousness more broadly to their tribe.

  157. Some History

    Marvel Studio announces first-ever Muslim superhero to hit the big screen. President Kevin Feige said his company plans to extrapolate Ms Marvel, aka Kamala Khan

    There’ll be plenty of opportunities for Marvel to advertise on the big screens.

    Etihad Stadium to be renamed Marvel Stadium from September 1

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/etihad-stadium-to-be-renamed-marvel-stadium-from-september-1/news-story/0ce4a3cd42b2f2a39d2a48444c335dc1

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It was possible, and very common, to be adopted by a great and powerful figure and then to be raised higher in status than legitimate biological offspring.
    I have a feeling that this is originally how Jesus was perceived to be considered the Son of God, and the story was later adapted to be more literal.

    Fatherhood was also perceived to be something of a mystery in itself.

    Plus, it was not uncommon for men to be made gods (as with the deification of Roman Emperors) and for gods to be made men (a common enough occurrence in the conversion era when some old deities became Christian Saints or famous kings).

  159. Senile Old Guy

    President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech, a federal judge in New York has ruled. United States District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald’s ruling came in response to a lawsuit filed against Mr Trump by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University and several Twitter users.

    Let’s take a wild guess here and check (Wikipedia):

    On February 12, 1999, Buchwald was nominated by President Bill Clinton to a seat on the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York vacated by Miriam G. Cedarbaum.

    What a surprise!

  160. Tom

    Now you’ve done it! Reminded me of the spice market in Acre.

    Even closer for Cats, stop off at the old spice market in Qatar, just 14 hours from Melbourne or Sydney.

    Calli, I didn’t realise you had trekked all the way up to Acre, just across the road from Damascus. You could have seen Putin from there with a pair of binoculars — in between the flashes of anti-aircraft fire.

  161. Slayer of Memes

    Indians are big on wheat, the heavy consumption of which is linked to, erm, anger issues.

    That might be true…. but bread is made from flour which comes from… wheat.

    So if Johanna has the same reaction to bread, then it’s due to wheat… if not, then obviously it’s not from wheat, but something else contained within Indian food (ie. spices)

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    first-ever Muslim superhero to hit the big screen

    I don’t recall any specifically Christian, Buddhist or J3wish superheroes.
    So why do we have to have Muslima ones??
    Bending over backwards once more to appease those who would wish to blow us up.

  163. Stimpson J. Cat

    extrapolate Ms Marvel, aka Kamala Khan

    The wording of this is important.
    The actual character is just a teenage girl who happens to be Muslim, but the writing since inception has been a succession of toxic social justice trash.
    It has been reflected in the comics sales and popularity.
    They will be rejigging the character to be mild as f$ck and acceptable to almost anyone, particularly Americans, trust me, because if they do not it will majorly bomb at the box office and begin Marvels cinematic decline.

  164. Mother Lode

    President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech

    What? No one is allowed to block other twits? Or just the President?

    Twitter is a sewer, but it is privately owned. And people are not forbidden from having their own accounts – just not attaching themselves to someone else’s.

    Is this really a free speech issue?

    I have often observed that the left seem to think free speech means free access to other peoples resources as a soapbox. They would consider throwing someone out of your own house for being objectionable (say, shouting at your grandmother) to be an denial of their right to free speech.

  165. Again using self-obviousness as a ground for argument. Well I invite you to point out the meaningful difference I can’t see.

    And referring to people who “reasoned” themselves into faith is not an acceptable argument. People can reason themselves into virtually anything.

    Well, your first problem is begging the question. I didn’t say or imply that Aristotle reasoned himself into ‘faith’, I said he reasoned himself out of polytheism and into classical theism (of a sort) because that is where the argument led him, and, your second problem, is that he did so against the background of a culture that was pervasively polytheistic.

  166. Shy Ted

    Is there a bigger fuckwit on ABC television than Joe O’Brien?
    I’d say it’s a tie between him and everyone else.
    And as for Hamish McDonald, Frank Elly’ stand-in this week on RN, he makes Frank sound good. You have to be a loon to bleat social justice for 3 hours on Breakfast. There must be a reason their ABC chose him…


    https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=eC0oVudQ&id=801C02ABE7F49853BCF54CAF52CF16FC0767703D&thid=OIP.eC0oVudQrPSuYyZwWSM34AHaE7&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fmedia.uow.edu.au%2fcontent%2fgroups%2fpublic%2f%40web%2f%40media%2fdocuments%2fweb%2f%257Eexport%2fUOW150096%257E1%257EDC_REALTED_IMAGES_RESPONSIVE%257EDC_NOHEADLAYOUT%2f132213-1.jpg&exph=369&e

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  167. nemkat

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2718862, posted on May 24, 2018 at 11:32 am
    Likely to be MSG …

    Indian takeaway has no need of flavor enhancers, therefore highly unlikely to be MSG.
    Wheat is your culprit, very pervasive food, whether as bread, batter or the insidious Hydrolized Wheat Protein.
    However, Hydrolized Wheat Protein is very similar to MSG.
    List of synonyms for, or similar to MSG:
    https://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57A333FD-2C35-9C9D-4EE7-B9C0CD3D6682

  168. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t recall any specifically Christian, Buddhist or J3wish superheroes.

    Captain America is Christian.

    In The Avengers film on meeting Thor:

    Black Widow “These guys are basically Gods”.

    Captain America “There’s only one God Ma’am,
    and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t look like that. “

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    our nation’s top journalists and news executives want to hob-nob with the powerful politicians, corporate fat cats and entertainers

    Pecking orders – part of our human inheritance, deeply embedded in our genetic make-up.
    All social creatures have these impulses. Sometimes in human life they get right out of control.
    As here. There is often then a counter-revolution from below.
    Time for a change. But be careful what you wish for.

    In general, I agree that journalists’ social climbing as we are currently seeing is bad for our polity.
    They should take a sociological look at their behavior and quit its extremes, to focus on the real issues.

  170. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Captain America is Christian.

    Then long live Captain America!!

    Thor seems to have been a rising star lately, although (Grigs notwithstanding) fantasy is not my suit.

  171. H B Bear

    Jebus Shy Ted. Opening that link just turned me made me gay. How am I going to explain that to the boys down the pub?

  172. nemkat

    So if Johanna has the same reaction to bread, then it’s due to wheat… if not, then obviously it’s not from wheat, but something else contained within Indian food (ie. spices)

    Not necessarily.
    Wheat is also very addictive.
    Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, a very concentrated substance, may cause more acute symptoms, whereas a person habituated to consuming bread won’t notice much until they discontinue wheat.

  173. Snoopy

    Captain Aisha “There’s only one God you infidel
    and Allah is his name. “

  174. The Beer Whisperer

    Yes, yes there is.

    Charlie Pickering & Will Anderson, for starters.

    Adam Hills.
    Aren’t there Golden Knob Awards?

    Good choice, Egg.

    At least Will Anderson doesn’t pretend to be nice. Adam Hills is fake nice, and having realised that, I quite despise the man.

  175. EvilElvis

    Ms Higgins said the ABC was battling spiralling costs and that the organisation’s 4000 employees were its biggest expense, accounting for half of its $1bn budget.

    Welcome to the real fucking world you useless bastards. Do what the rest of us do when we have to produce to pay those wages, not get a fucking handout, manage! You love pretending you’re a fucking business so bloody well manage! FMD.

  176. thefrolickingmole

    Old and busted : Basic government functions like building dams & supplying a staple of life.
    New and Hot: Telling people in the arid hell hole of the UK they have to cut back because of a “30 year drought coming”.

    A 30-year drought may be coming: here’s how you can save water
    Water shortages could stretch into the 2050s, according to the Environment Agency. It’s time to do your bit

    The sun is shining and we are due a hot bank holiday Monday, so it must be time for a drought story. And not just any old drought, but one stretching into the 2050s and beyond, according to the Environment Agency, which warns that our use of water is unsustainable. While the agency puts much of its focus on the need for companies to change their behaviour, especially by reducing leakage, there are practical steps we can all take.

    The onion can close its doors, parody is dead.

  177. Dr Faustus

    Even closer for Cats, stop off at the old spice market in Qatar, just 14 hours from Melbourne or Sydney.

    Or the Spice Souk in Dubai – arguably the only interesting thing in the whole dismal place.

  178. Zyconoclast

    Gavin McInnes
    @Gavin_McInnes
    The Alt-Left is driving the apolitical right and we’re here with a big net trying to catch them before they go Alt-Right.

    What a f$cking p$ssy.
    Look at this guy.

    Gavin is a pervert.
    He has his tongue down Milo’s throat and probably has his fist up Milo’s @rse.

  179. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    he did so against the background of a culture that was pervasively polytheistic.

    Polytheism simply replicates human familial and other interactive social experience.
    It provides a poor basis for explanations of origin and purpose: that takes ‘a source’ explanation.
    Something ‘monolithic’ (shades of Stanley Kubric) or ‘monotheistic’ (shades of Abraham).
    As an agnostic, I’d leave the door open to ‘a something’, beyond things I can ever know.
    Perhaps. Rationality is rather puny in this scheme of things.
    One day perhaps, in some far distant evolutionary future, our brains will do better.

  180. Cactus

    When I eat spicy food, often when I make it myself I find myself having trouble sleeping. I do go abit heavy with the spice – particularly Cumin.

  181. notafan

    Zenah Osman

    What amazes me is that she was able to get a ‘law’ degree in the first place

  182. Slayer of Memes

    Remember when, after the budget ‘cut’ $84 million from #TheirABC’s budget, the head of news Gaven Morris said ‘there is no more fat to cut’…?

    Yeah…. might have found some fat…

    ABC wastes $1,555 a MINUTE producing Yassmin Abdel-Magied’s pro-Islamic fashion show

    The ABC has admitted it spent $1,555 a MINUTE to produce Yassmin Abdel-Magied’s pro-Islamic show about Muslim fashion.

    This comes a week after it was revealed the national broadcaster gave their highest paid employees more than $2.5 million in tax payer funded bonuses.

    As the Left lament the recent $80 million funding cut, most would agree $80 million was clearly not enough. The waste continues.

  183. Shy Ted

    Zenah Osman. What amazes me that she was able to get a ‘law’ degree in the first place
    Maybe it was a sharia law degree.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t recall any specifically Christian, Buddhist or J3wish superheroes.

    Well there is one of the latter. 😀

  185. stackja

    notafan
    #2718896, posted on May 24, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    Zenah Osman

    What amazes me is that she was able to get a ‘law’ degree in the first place

    Who would deny her what she wanted? She would have sued.

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gavin is a pervert.
    He has his tongue down Milo’s throat and probably has his fist up Milo’s @rse.

    Milo at least is honest about it.
    He is only in it for the fame, the shekels and arse.
    Everyone knows this.

  187. Slayer of Memes

    12 years ago today, Al ‘ManBearPig’ Gore released his Climate thriller,’ An Inconvenient Truth’…

    The most inconvenient thing being, that in the last 12 years precisely ZERO of his predictions about climate ‘doom’ have come to pass….

    But hey, he made multiple millions of dollars, lives in 5 houses, and flies first-class (when not using his own private jet) everywhere to lecture we proles about how we need to stop using so many carbins in our day-to-day lives….

  188. C.L.

    Old Style Black Hospitality towards Tomi Lahren at a bar.

    She forgot John Derbyshire’s rules for interacting with black Americans.

    (10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

    (10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

    (10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

    (10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

    (10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

  189. Zyconoclast

    Pellekaan is a pelican.

    Why did they bother to flick Penny’s Ex?

    Tesla household batteries in SA get green light as Sanjeev Gupta reveals electric car factory plan

    South Australia will push ahead with a plan to install battery systems built by Elon Musk’s Tesla in 50,000 homes, with the new State Government committing to continue the pro-battery agenda of its predecessor.
    The Weatherill Labor government announced the Tesla policy in February, declaring it would install battery and solar systems free of charge to create the world’s “largest virtual power plant” and slash energy bills.
    The plan shared similarities with a Liberal policy allowing battery storage units in 40,000 homes, and it was unclear which of the two policies would be adopted following the election of Liberal Premier Steven Marshall.

    But in a speech at the Australian Energy Storage Conference, Energy Minister Dan van Holst Pellekaan said the Government would implement both.
    “It’s very important to be clear about this — we are honouring the existing commitments around the Tesla virtual power plant (VPP),” he said.

    “The VPP project is currently proceeding with the two trial phases as planned. The trial phases involve installation of home energy systems on 1,100 Housing SA homes.
    “These are supported by a $2 million grant and a $30 million loan from the State Government.
    “Subject to private finance, and the first two phases’ success, the third phase could grow to up to 50,000 home batteries connected to new solar installations, and this is in addition to our government’s 40,000 home election commitment.”

    Mr van Holst Pellekaan said his first meeting after being sworn in was with Tesla, and wants the state to become a world leader in home battery installation.
    “Very simply, a Liberal Government in South Australia means more, not fewer, batteries,” he said.

    “We’ll show the world how the mass adoption of home batteries can and will work.
    “This is a complicated task — I don’t think that anyone has attempted to do what we’re about to do at this scale relative to population and market size.”

    Mr van Holst Pellekaan was also full of praise for Tesla’s giant lithium ion battery near Jamestown.
    “Within the first month of it being installed, it helped to smooth out two major trips,” he said.
    “I’m very glad Tesla is working with our Government. It’s a great partnership shining a spotlight on South Australia.”
    The Energy Minister added that gas would become a “less necessary” component of SA’s energy mix as storage technology evolved and improved.

    Gupta wants to build electric car factory

    The energy conference also heard from Whyalla steelworks boss Sanjeev Gupta, who wants to turn his company GFG Alliance into one of the nation’s biggest energy providers.
    The British billionaire outlined plans for a massive 10 gigawatts of solar energy, saying the proposal would be backed up by a huge grid-scale battery and pumped hydro dams.
    The latest announcement is for 10 times as much power production as previously flagged.
    “Our largest investments will be in solar. We have stated 1,000 megawatts in South Australia,” he said.

    “We have some ambitions in other industries … depending on that we could be as much as 10 gigawatts of solar across the country,” Mr Gupta said.
    He said GFG also has plans to build an electric car factory, which could provide another option for household energy storage.
    “Taking solar, generating your own energy, then using your car battery as your house battery to basically store that energy,” he said.
    “We are looking at setting the plant up, we will definitely do it. Whether it’s here or another part of the country is subject to what conditions are best for that production.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-24/tesla-battery-plan-gets-green-light-from-sa-liberals/9794486

  190. cohenite

    Ms Higgins said the ABC was battling spiralling costs and that the organisation’s 4000 employees were its biggest expense, accounting for half of its $1bn budget.

    Most msm outlets have wage % of about 20%.

  191. Old School Conservative

    James Slipper reveals a battle with depression as he is suspended after recording a second positive test for cocaine. (The Oz).

    Seems like a good and decent man from all accounts.
    I hope he recovers.

  192. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You love pretending you’re a fucking business so bloody well manage! FMD.

    No truer words about the ABC were ever spoken, EvilElvis.

    SWAT analysis needed to totally revamp the organization, its purposes and delivery.
    Before we take to it with a Berlin Wall moment, as the Good Perfessor advises in his book which I haven’t yet read but must do.

  193. thefrolickingmole

    The most offensive cartoon in history…

    And funny.

  194. mh

    The TDS ran deep, my friends:

    West Hollywood to present Stormy Daniels with key to city

    The mayor of West Hollywood, Calif., will join city officials on Wednesday to present adult-film star Stormy Daniels with a key to the city and a city proclamation, according to a media advisory…

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    “Our largest investments will be in solar. We have stated 1,000 megawatts in South Australia,” he said.

    Which it will do for a few hours a day, so almost certainly less than half of the annual MWh produced by the 520 MW Northern Power Station, which Weatherill blew up.

    I wonder how large is that “largest” investment to build half of a small power station?

  196. H B Bear

    Mainland Tasmanians always fall for a Multi-function Polis.

  197. Slayer of Memes

    Mueller Begs Trump-Appointed Judge For Indefinite Delay in Junk Russian Bot Case

    On Tuesday, Robert Mueller begged a federal judge to indefinitely delay his trial against Concord Management and Consulting.

    This is the second time Mueller has requested a delay in his junk Russian bot case.

    Obviously Mueller rolled out the indictment of 13 Russians and 3 Russian companies as a PR stunt and now it’s coming back to haunt him.

    Judge Dabney L. Friedrich, a Trump-appointee smacked down Mueller the first time he requested a delay.

    Former US Attorney, Joe DiGenova said it best, “They did it for one reason only. Mueller needed something Russian–like dressing on a salad to make his investigation look good so he indicted 13 people and corporations in another country that he thought would never show up and BINGO one shows up and says ‘PROVE IT MOTHER.’

    The Daily Caller reported:

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller asked a federal judge Tuesday to reject the four-decade-old speedy trial law in the case against 13 Russians and three Russian companies and has asked for an indefinite delay to the Russian collusion trial.

    One of the Russian companies — Concord Management and Consulting — entered the U.S., hired American lawyers, and demanded a speedy trial. The Speedy Trial Act is a 44-year old federal law that dictates that a federal criminal case must begin within 70 days from the date of the indictment.

    The “complexity” of the case warrants excluding the speedy trial law and delaying the trial, Mueller argued in Tuesday’s court filing.

    A “district court can, on its own motion or at the request of a party, grant an excludable continuance if ‘the ends of justice served by taking such action outweigh the best interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial,’” Mueller wrote.

    “This case also warrants a continuance and exclusion of time to accommodate the voluminous discovery at issue and to allow sufficient time for the Court to resolve certain outstanding procedural issues unique to discovery in this case,” he continued.

    Former Federal Prosecutor, Andrew McCarthy told the Daily Caller that it’s too late for Mueller to claim that the complexity of the case warrants a delay.

    The federal judge has not yet ruled on Mueller’s second request for a delay.

    Mueller is a pathetic man and a disgrace to this country.

    Another embarrassing development was watching Mueller’s team offer to give Concord Management’s lawyers a massive amount of social media data from those dangerous trolls who sought to influence the US election and the majority of it is in RUSSIAN.

    Mueller’s lawyers admitted that they don’t even have English translations for the Russian social media posts.

    Concord Management’s lawyer’s previously said Mueller indicted “the proverbial ham sandwich.”

    The reason the Concord Management attorneys called the case a ‘proverbial ham sandwich’ was because one of the entities indicted by the Mueller team, Concord Catering, was not in existence at the time the crimes were alleged to have taken place.

    Mueller begging the judge for an indefinite delay is more proof he rolled out this indictment of Russians as a PR stunt to justify his witch hunt; his team is not prepared to try this case and it’s hilarious to watch as they struggle.

    #ItsMuellerTime

  198. H B Bear

    That is why they need so much of your GST.

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    James Slipper reveals a battle with depression as he is suspended after recording a second positive test for cocaine. (The Oz).

    It’s called a comedown.
    Harden up m$ggot.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mueller Begs Trump-Appointed Judge For Indefinite Delay in Junk Russian Bot Case

    This is like Monty applying for an Indefinite Delay on donuts.
    It will never happen.

  201. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Old Style Black Hospitality towards Tomi Lahren at a bar.

    On our last American trip we stayed in a Hilton Hotel where a large conference of black people (also a conference of large black people) was taking place. I felt quite uncomfortable in the lifts at times; some exuded a level of hostility to my presence there that was almost palpable. Only a few others were not at all like that, simply normally friendly and interactive. Many displayed an arrogance towards the staff and a disrespect towards the facilities that was also very bad manners. I’ve been to America quite a few times and have never felt anything like this before. Something new in the air, was my thought about it. Black Lives Matter?? Antifa??

    Of course black lives certainly matter, as do all lives, and the experience of feeling uncomfortable in lifts if they were the only black person amongst some hostile whites is one that many blacks would use to counter my feelings. But this was America in 2015 and it scared me, just as all forms of fascism and racism does. Playing the race card is as dangerous as it gets.

  202. Baldrick

    West Hollywood to present Stormy Daniels with key to city

    Sounds like a bad plot summary to the usual XXX Stormy fare.

  203. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    to present adult-film star Stormy Daniels with a key to the city and a city proclamation

    Hollywood reaches its nadir.

  204. Roger

    Possibly, but you have to wait a very long time, indeed, to overcome the previous two millennia of clear and authoritative teaching.

    2 Thess. 2 – the man of lawlessness has been at work since apostolic times.

  205. rickw

    I have a feeling that this is originally how Jesus was perceived to be considered the Son of God, and the story was later adapted to be more literal.

    What did the Centurion say when Jesus took his last breath?

  206. H B Bear

    Hollywood reaches its nadir.

    Not exactly. She is hardly likely to drug and @nally [email protected] a minor. And then complain about not being able to attend the Oscars.

  207. Stimpson J. Cat

    West Hollywood to present Stormy Daniels with key to city

    This is f$cking amazing and I wish I could be there to get her to sign my t$ts.

  208. Tel

    Stormy Daniels is a little too classy for that town, but I guess visiting a dive has it’s thrill now and then.

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ..ooops. Just noticed, scrolling back up. SWOT not SWAT. Mea culpa above re O for Opportunities.
    Suppose for the ABC it could be Strengths, Weaknesses, Advantages and Threats.

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    What did the Centurion say when Jesus took his last breath?

    I don’t speak Ancient Ethnic.

  211. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hollywood reaches its nadir.

    They haven’t awarded her an honorary Oscar yet.
    Not beyond possibility…

  212. Rae

    Salt is likely to be the problem. Massive amounts of salt in bought Indian food. Causes fluid retention and aggravates rheumatoid arthritis in the joints.

  213. Roger

    I have a feeling that this is originally how Jesus was perceived to be considered the Son of God, and the story was later adapted to be more literal.

    Jesus was not perceived to be the Son of God, he claimed to be the Son of God.

    Basically, nobody believed him – except the demons – until he rose from the dead.

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    West Hollywood to present Stormy Daniels with key to city
    This is f$cking amazing and I wish I could be there to get her to sign my t$ts.

    You’d have better luck with mine, Stimpy. They’re bigger. More space to write on.
    Unless there is something you’re not telling us. 🙂

  215. Mother Lode

    What amazes me is that she was able to get a ‘law’ degree in the first place

    Her money and plain brown envelopes would be as good as anyone else’s.

  216. DrBeauGan

    rickw
    #2718679, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:32 am
    But the plain fact is that they are unbelievable to.anyone who wasn’t brainwashed into them at an early age. If someone tried to sell you on the Greek gods or the Hindu pantheon, you’d reject them as fairy tales. That’s exactly how your beliefs look to almost everyone these days.

    You want to tell that to the millions of Chinese converting to Christianity. To compare Christianity to the pantheon of other religions illustrates either a gross ignorance of Christianity, other religions, or both.

    There were more converts to leftism in the last century than any other religion. I do not regard this as a good thing.

    I recognise that there are a few people who converted late in life. But it is fairly obvious from looking at the distribution of the different faiths that the majority of the faithful are brought up in that faith. Whether Christianity, Hindu, Marxist, Muslim, whatever. In none of these cases can you reasonably say that the reasons for having that belief are very good.

    I am prepared to go along, up to a point, with the ‘God shaped hole in the soul’ theory that explains why people seem to have a need to believe something. That doesn’t make any of the beliefs true.

    I accept that there are pragmatic social reasons for thinking Christianity has benefits. Again, that doesn’t make it true.

    The sad fact is that Christianity is on it’s last legs in Europe and Australia. It’s being replaced by leftism. I dislike that state of affairs as much as the most committed Christian, but it’s a hard fact. If I believe in anything, it’s confronting hard facts.

  217. nemkat

    H B Bear
    #2718924
    Hollywood reaches its nadir.

    Not exactly. She is hardly likely to drug and @nally [email protected] a minor. And then complain about not being able to attend the Oscars.
    Samantha Geimer doesn’t meet the usual profile of a 13 y.o. S.A. victim.
    Here are a few recent and older photos, and a short history of the Case:
    http://allstarpics.famousfix.com/pictures/samantha-geimer

  218. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Jesus was not perceived to be the Son of God, he claimed to be the Son of God.
    Basically, nobody believed him – except the demons – until he rose from the dead.

    I won’t knock blind faith, Roger. That is something I’d agree is beyond my understanding.
    And maybe that’s my problem, not yours.

    One nice thing about Catallaxy is that you can meet and hear from people you don’t ordinarily talk to.

  219. cohenite

    You’d have better luck with mine, Stimpy. They’re bigger.

    Bigger than stormy’s?!

    http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/File:Stormy-suze.jpg

  220. Percy Popinjay

    muslim fashion

    Satire – dead, buried and cremated.

  221. notafan

    There is nothing blind about Christian faith.

    My athiest teenage nephew trots out that line, as though being Christian automatically makes you some sort of superstitious numbskull.

    Why is it so okay to insult Christians with terms like brain wash and blind faith.

    I always remember that the apostles, almost without exception, were prepared to die proclaiming that Jesus rose from the dead.

    Nothing blind about their faith.

  222. Stimpson J. Cat

    You’d have better luck with mine, Stimpy. They’re bigger. More space to write on.
    Unless there is something you’re not telling us. 🙂

    Send photos are no fun Sinc please for comparison purposes.
    When I get yours I’ll send mine, but I need extra time to shave them.

    Also, Monty, how big are your t$ts?
    Asking for a friend.

  223. H B Bear

    Never been a better time to be a Lieboral without a penis.

  224. Roger

    The Mehajer family are certainly very…er, “colourful”.

    I used to wonder why our immigration officials were so well disposed towards applicants from low trust cultures. Then I had dealings with the department and realised how many of its officials are themselves from low trust cultures.

  225. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The sad fact is that Christianity is on it’s last legs in Europe and Australia. It’s being replaced by leftism. I dislike that state of affairs as much as the most committed Christian, but it’s a hard fact. If I believe in anything, it’s confronting hard facts.

    The leftism is a problem I’ll agree. But there is still an undercurrent of desire to believe in ancient verities, sadly seen mainly in a reversion to a form of nature-worshiping animism and New Age fantasizing. But the resurgence of Christianity in China and Russia shows that this older religion of the West is not dead yet. The US too still has a strong element of Christianity in its daily life in many localities and in Britain attacks on old traditions such as Christmas are meeting resistance.

    Islam is the threat – a ‘lived’ religion intruding on all aspects of life with a seventh century dogma, and seeming to offer solutions to leftism’s hatred of men, denaturing of women and failure of mythic power.

  226. Percy Popinjay

    Regarding Sudmalis – the only time I ever remember hearing about her was when she was making a total idiot of herself and demonstrating her manifest unfitness for public office.

    The Waffleroachian election winning machine throws up yet another dud.

  227. Roger

    I always remember that the apostles, almost without exception, were prepared to die proclaiming that Jesus rose from the dead.

    And it was a very quick turnaround – seven weeks from Peter cowering in the high priest’s courtyard to fearlessly addressing the assembled crowd of J3ws on Pentecost.

  228. notafan

    Christianity might be the faith of the few in Europe (though that is certainly not true in Poland) but if you have been there and witnessed the faith of those that still practice you would not be parroting the words of others.

    Never have I seen more beautiful expressions of Catholic Christianity than in France, and that does not just include places like Lourdes but ordinary parishes around the place and the most heartening aspect has been the sight of many young single men as well as young families.

    Nor is it evident merely on a Sunday but at well attended weekday midday Masses.

  229. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jesus was not perceived to be the Son of God, he claimed to be the Son of God.
    Basically, nobody believed him – except the demons – until he rose from the dead.

    I am of course talking about the years after his death, when the various pages of his story that make up the New Testament of the Bible were written.

  230. egg_

    New and Hot: Telling people in the arid hell hole of the UK they have to cut back because of a “30 year drought coming”.

    Related to Latif’s paper re multidecadal ice at the North Pole due to ocean currents?
    Reap what you sow, warmies.
    Poms may have to miss a bath, oh wait…

  231. Mark from Melbourne

    Ms Higgins said the ABC was battling spiralling costs and that the organisation’s 4000 employees were its biggest expense, accounting for half of its $1bn budget.

    So, something like $125k per head then? Seems kinda on the high side…

  232. thefrolickingmole

    The blog furuncle goes in to bat for Hollyweird [email protected]@do.

    The mummie suit no longer enough, it desires a family, lock up your kiddies.

  233. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    IMHO Christians should focus on the central place that Christmas and Easter have in the Western calendar, taking particular care that Easter does not drop off the celebratory family occasions chart. These two festivities fully explain the religion in a remarkable way – in the birth of Salvation, and the death to ensure Eternal Life. Both are extremely attractive ideas, and could bring people back to Mysteries.

    Mysteries are what people seek; thankfully, Islam is rather short on them as they relate to the personal lives of believers. The celebratory miracle of birth, motherhood and fatherhood, marriage as a sacrament, death as Resurrection, these are all emotionally powerful themes from which to draw meaning and purpose by faith alone. The faith of Islam is rules-based, not choice-based, so has a poor appeal in thought. Islam also lacks representational art and music – the great advantage offered by 2000 years of Western tradition. Go for it, Christians.

  234. Tom

    Cohenite, thankfully your 1.08pm link on the size of Stormy’s puppies doesn’t work.

  235. nemkat

    Percy Popinjay
    #2718947
    Regarding Sudmalis – the only time I ever remember hearing about her was when she was making a total idiot of herself and demonstrating her manifest unfitness for public office.

    The main contender is Alby Schultz’s son. He was described on this site as a total no hoper a few years ago, when Schultz was trying to hand over his Seat to him

  236. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ms Higgins said the ABC was battling spiralling costs and that the organisation’s 4000 employees were its biggest expense, accounting for half of its $1bn budget.

    Where the f$ck is Rabz?
    This is outrageous.

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