Wednesday Forum: May 23, 2018

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  1. DrBeauGan

    Keep it up, Zippy, you have more patience than I do.

    The jaunt around SEA and the sub-continent on a search for yourself was a sure sign of contentment , no doubts or questions. Don’t mistake my bullshit meter for irritation.

    I didn’t go to Sri Lanka to find myself, Makka. I knew where I was nearly all the time. Google Maps does it..

  2. JC

    She looks like a character from a Stephen King novel.

    Get load of this vid at the 15ish second mark when she’s staring at the questioner. It’s not normal.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/this-is-rich-crooked-hillary-clinton-says-if-you-want-to-stand-for-rule-of-law-you-have-to-vote-democrat-video/

  3. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Isn’t the ‘lesson’ of optical illusions ‘distrusting’ the senses? Still, I can’t exactly recall your exact point re that experiment.

    For someone who likes to bang on about metaphysics, it’s quite amazing that you miss the bleedingly obvious “metaphysical” ontological conclusions that become exceedingly apparent from faulty visual presentation of what you take to be reality.

    The map is not the territory, yet you refuse or are unable to separate the two. Such is life.

  4. Makka

    I didn’t go to Sri Lanka to find myself, Makka. I knew where I was nearly all the time. Google Maps does it..

    Sure.

  5. Roger

    Elon Musk’s list of people responsible for Tesla’s shortcomings – now inclusive of the NTSB, internet trolls and the financial media – and notably not inclusive of Elon Musk, continues to grow. Today’s addition? The conspirators running the big oil companies.

    It’s true, Elon Musk really is the Cosmo Kramer of crony capitalism!

  6. mh

    I don’t subscribe to the mass media, but headline on Telegraph website is Sorry Foley won’t Say ‘white flight’ again

    Sorry for what? The PC Brigade reaction of course, but white flight is exactly what Foley meant.

    Another headline: Aussie granny gets death penalty.

  7. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Keep it up, Zippy, you have more patience than I do.

    4 kids will do that to you.

  8. johanna

    OPPOSITION leader Luke Foley has apologised for his use of the phrase “white flight” saying it he won’t use it again.

    Mr Foley used the phrase in an interview with The Daily Telegraph, when talking about suburbs struggling under the burden of massive refugee influxes without the education and jobs resources to match.

    The Labor leader came under pressure on social media over the use of the term.

    My sister just did a ‘white flight’ from her unit in Harris Park. Her block, of about 60 units, great location near shops and transport, has been almost entirely taken over by folks from the sub-continent. She doesn’t dislike them, just felt like an alien there.

    It’s a thing, but our gutless politicians can’t mention it because ‘social media.’

    Why have elections, when social media is the font of all wisdom?

  9. Gab

    Yeek, Not while I’m eating dinner, JC.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    Yes. Sorry I saw your question some while ago but it was well after my bedtime when you asked. Didn’t fit with early rising Cat business to answer in the morning.

    The internet is a marvel. Give me use of one finger and eyesight and I’ll never be bored.

    You should be wary however, as it’s well known in the data that Christians tend to be the happiest people around.

  11. nemkat

    From JC’s link at 6.36 p.m.:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9b4aa22ff4863e4c026d5a21db67620843fdc618d438d2118210689488a0601e.jpg
    Hillary has had a lot of plastic surgery over the intervening 40+ years.
    Only the jowls are recognisable.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gerbil warmers keep telling us polar bears are going missing because of gerbil warming.

    Nah. As I’ve said here before, in Iceland they try to send the floe-floaters back to Greenland but Greenland won’t have them. They frighten the tourists in both nations, so both nations turn a blind eye to Icelandic farmers who get out their guns and shoot bears at first sight. Saves an awful lot of bureaucratic trouble, and means plenty of poley bearskins are for sale in the shops. Would have loved to bring one home myself to freak out Greenies. but as with the Japanese canned bear meat, nerve failed us both when we thought of the hassle at Customs. Sydney Airport is bad enough at 7.30am, when six international flights have landed in close sequence, without making it worse for oneself with a lecture from Bear Protection Society documents painstakingly read out by an officious Customs Official as the contents of your suitcases spill out for public display. I make Hairy carry any embarrassing stuff, but even so …

  13. Makka

    They should leave the Grizzlies alone. Wonderful beasts.

  14. Zippy, you’re raving at strawmen. You’re not even familiar with the work of atheist philosophers for pity’s sake. And your retreat into neurobabble is not helping things. There is nothing in Rosenberg’s account above that is not in the work of neurobabblers like Paul and Patricia Churchland, themselves staunch atheists and eliminative materialists. If you’re not familiar with this, best to shut up, pick up some books and start reading, if only to stop further embarrassment.

  15. Delta A

    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    BoN can answer as he will, but I have to say I’m amazed that anyone would ask this question.

    BoN’s enjoyment and engagement with nature is part of The Cat, especially his bird briefs.

    He is a committed Christian, happy in his relationship with his Lord. He invites others to share his joy, yet he never preaches. He is unfailingly tolerant when others of us might vent exasperation.

    He is a font of scientific and political information. He’s the go-to man for any climate hoo-ha.

    In short, Bruce of Newcastle is one of the most valued members of The Cat. And without asking him directly, I would say that he is a very happy man.

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    This would surely apply to Monst, but I mostly see him as an angry lesbian.

    He is incredibly ungrateful.
    I go out of my way daily to try to smooth his transition but he just doesn’t want to listen.

  17. Snoopy

    Samantha Maiden stood down from Sky News for workplace bullying.

    Alcohol can be a aggravating factor.

  18. JC

    For the Tesla is going broke crowd

    Market Caps
    Billion
    Daimler AG 70

    BMW 56

    GM 53

    Ford 45

    Tesla 47

    If you think Tesla is going bust in a hurry, you need to explain it’s current market capitalization and why by commanding that level of capitalization it couldn’t raise $10 billion like all the others could.

  19. Stimpson J. Cat

    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    Happy?
    Who the f$ck wants to be Happy?

    Easily Amused is what you should aiming for, like me.

    Honestly you Sane People sometimes Jesus Christ….

  20. For someone who likes to bang on about metaphysics, it’s quite amazing that you miss the bleedingly obvious “metaphysical” ontological conclusions that become exceedingly apparent from faulty visual presentation of what you take to be reality.

    What, that my finger is before my eyes, and that it still is, even when my vision faulters at close range? Zippy, keep on walking closer to that bridge, very soon, I will have two bridges to sell you.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The internet is a marvel. Give me use of one finger and eyesight and I’ll never be bored.

    I’ve always thought this too, but I’d like a library of proper books as well, because you can get sick of screens, even Kindles, at times.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gotta go. Yelp!
    Promised Hairy I’d do something which hasn’t got done; time is running out, he’ll be home soon.

  23. Stimpson J. Cat

    I didn’t go to Sri Lanka to find myself, Makka. I knew where I was nearly all the time. Google Maps does it..

    Eat. Love. Atheist.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    GM – Here’s the American Thinker article you mentioned:

    USGS’s daily Hawaii lava reports outdo the reports from the press

    Monica Showalter is the writer – Cats will know her excellent political articles, especially the Wussia/Spygate ones. Interestingly her sister has the misfortune of living in the first affected housing subdivision, Leilani Estates. Sis may be lucky though as the main lava outlets now are further along the dyke, to the east of Leilani.

    I’ve been accessing USGS reports for decades since they do a lot of excellent commodity reporting. If you want to know about import/export volumes of selenium, cadmium and pretty much the rest of the periodic table, they the ones to go to.

  25. mh

    I’ve just had a look at Stormy’s tits for the first time. I have to say…they’re crackers!

  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Easily Amused is what you should aiming for, like me.

    That’s what Hairy says I am. Also easily distracted.
    And good with excuses. I will tell him the dishwasher was playing up again.
    It wasn’t, but it’s easy to fudge that one; he’ll think I pressed the wrong buttons again.

  27. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’ve just had a look at Stormy’s tits for the first time. I have to say…they’re crackers!

    are they faker than CNN’s news?

  28. JC

    They should leave the Grizzlies alone. Wonderful beasts.

    I gave you my solution. Dude, they’re only allowing 22 to be killed in the cull. Big deal. I’m also guessing you’d have o pay big dollars as, Wildlife would run auction… (Just a guess.)

    I have no problem killing predators. They live by the tooth and claw and take their chances living that lifestyle choice . 🙂

    In the 90’s I almost went off with a few pals to bag a lion, but decided not to go because of the cost. I couldn’t see the value in having to cough up 10K at the time to bag one of the fuckers. Truth be told though, I couldn’t be fucked flying to Africa. Also, at the time, I think the US didn’t allow you to bring back the hide.

    Imagine showing up at Australian customs now with a lion hide. You’d get 20 years.

  29. Delta A

    I’ve just had a look at Stormy’s tits for the first time. I have to say…they’re crackers!

    And you can have them, too. 🙂 Ask your surgeon about the special two-for-one Stormy implants, available until stocks run out.

  30. Brian of Moorabbin

    Happy?
    Who the f$ck wants to be Happy?

    Easily Amused is what you should aiming for, like me.

    Honestly you Sane People sometimes Jesus Christ….

    I hear ya Stmpy…

  31. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Enjoy Stormy’s tits, you guys.
    Just what you gotta have on an economics blog.
    Bet they’re fake. There y’are.
    That’ll keep the conversation going all night till some kitteh rescues it.

  32. Stimpson J. Cat

    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    For as long as f$cking birds exist in the world,
    I would say an emphatic Yes he f$cking is.
    Goddamned birds honestly.
    It does my head in.

    😁

  33. Gab

    I have no problem killing predators. They live by the tooth and claw and take their chances living that lifestyle choice

    I know what you mean. I feel that was about possums and spiders.

  34. Geriatric mayfly

    I’ve always thought this too, but I’d like a library of proper books as well, because you can get sick of screens, even Kindles, at times.

    Agree with this. The occasional delve into an illuminated manuscript, in Latin, adds a little spice. A bit difficult for bed time reading. As one reviewer has said of Chernov’s latest on Grant, if such a pre- somnambulistic recreation is undertaken, the tome is likely to squash your bollocks.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Aha. Delta to the rescue already!

  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    if such a pre- somnambulistic recreation is undertaken, the tome is likely to squash your bollocks.

    Speak for yourself, Mayfly. 😀

  37. JC

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2719270, posted on May 24, 2018 at 6:58 pm

    I’ve just had a look at Stormy’s tits for the first time. I have to say…they’re crackers!

    are they faker than CNN’s news?

    Turn it off, zipperhead, nothing is faker than CNN.

    There are some very good fakers and bad ones. It all depends on the surgeon.

  38. JC

    Trump won

    NFL Says Players Must Stand for Anthem

    The NFL made sweeping changes to its national anthem policy in a bid to quell a controversy that has rattled the league for two years and drawn the ire of President Trump.

    Trump is God.

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What, that my finger is before my eyes, and that it still is, even when my vision faulters at close range?

    When you can snatch the map from the territory grasshoper….

    no amount of introspection is ever going to help you discover anything metaphysical as you ignore that which is staring you in the face.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In short, Bruce of Newcastle is one of the most valued members of The Cat. And without asking him directly, I would say that he is a very happy man.

    +1. He also gives good advice on how to get rid of Currawongs who drop muck on pathways.
    (Even though I would like to take an air rifle to them instead of a hose).

  41. DrBeauGan

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2719252, posted on May 24, 2018 at 6:46 pm
    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    Yes. Sorry I saw your question some while ago but it was well after my bedtime when you asked. Didn’t fit with early rising Cat business to answer in the morning.

    The internet is a marvel. Give me use of one finger and eyesight and I’ll never be bored.

    You should be wary however, as it’s well known in the data that Christians tend to be the happiest people around.

    Yes, I’ve seen the data, but it tends to support the conclusion that people who socialise a lot say they are happy. Not necessarily the same thing as being happy.

    If I’d had to guess I’d have expected you to say what you did, as did ∆. Her explanation involved faith, and I allow it may be a factor, but your answer suggests that it has more to do with the scientific temperament of enjoying the business of finding things out.

    I’d have given almost the same answer as you did, in agreement with my observation that scientists are mostly happy people and arts academics are mostly a miserable bunch of buggers.

  42. Percy Popinjay

    NFL Says Players Must Stand for Anthem

    The NFL made sweeping changes to its national anthem policy in a bid to quell a controversy that has rattled the league for two years and drawn the ire of President Trump.

    JC – mass punter flight from both matches and TV broadcasts (e.g. behold the stupendous ratings performance of ESPN over the last few years) would not have helped. But yeah, Fatty certainly didn’t stand back and let the idiots running the game (or the brain damaged f*ckwits playing it) insult their paying audience without copping a well deserved pasting.

  43. rickw

    Sorry for what? The PC Brigade reaction of course, but white flight is exactly what Foley meant.

    Even black people acknowlege white flight.

    The smarter ones usually leave the moment the last white resident does.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Goddamned birds honestly.
    It does my head in.

    Here you go Stimpy:

    Matthew 6:25-34: Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

    <

  45. Delta A

    I quite like being called ∆.

    It stable a stable, well rounded persona.

    The pointy bits can be a bit ouchy, but.

  46. Delta A

    It suggests a stable, well round blah blah.

    Sigh.

  47. Snoopy

    BoN, forgive the personal question, but do you consider yourself a happy man?

    I consider myself as not being overweight but those BMI calculators tell me different.

  48. ∆A

    Does my bum look big in this?

  49. DrBeauGan

    Stimpy, the world outside your head is much more interesting than the one inside it. The former contains birds. Also spaceships, quantum phenomena, container ships and Sri Lanka. To name but four.

  50. Percy Popinjay

    The Mocker: feminists dictate their own narrative over family violence

    The Mocker has quickly become the most sensible and incisive columnist in the Oz. His pieces are invariably must reads and always involve figuratively smashing collectivists around the head – and he rarely, if ever, misses.

  51. hzhousewife

    Another question: are most Kittehs religious?

    Not I.
    I spent a small amount of time in my youth wondering why I couldn’t have Faith and Believe, not even when surrounded by the crowds at Billy Graham in the Myer Music Bowl, 1969. Then I got busy with life instead. I like facts. I think there are unknowable things but can’t be bothered spending time pondering them. I adore that Jesus Christ existed and have the utmost respect for Him, but the life of the planet will not be improved by my spending hours in prayer or time spent in Church every Sunday. I try to do no harm and I’m not always nice, sadly, but I try. I could not abide “heaven” as described by most people. I don’t think it exists, nor hell. I have been contented almost all of my life. Dear departed Mum went back to Church in the years before her death and explained to me that she had no clue about God, but that her Church had contributed hugely to her early life in a social context ( School, Girl Guide troup, Youth Camps etc) that she felt happy to return to them. Dad similarly, although in the long run I think the RSL had more meaning for him, as a Life Member he was buried with full honours. I have experienced patches of loneliness and illness along the pathway of life, and come out the other side. I suppose my low self-esteem simply assumes that if I can get through shit, so can you ! I do suffer from a little bit of pride that so far I have been able, with family and friends to assist, stand on my own two feet.

    Phew, where did all THAT come from !!

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’d have given almost the same answer as you did, in agreement with my observation that scientists are mostly happy people and arts academics are mostly a miserable bunch of buggers.

    Dr B – sadly our business has been invaded by a miserable bunch of secular millenarians. The problem with oodles of climate money is it self-selects people who are interested in global warming Armageddon, even if it isn’t happening.

    I was found by my university last year. Took ’em thirty years. Now I get cutesy magazines and begging letters. The latest magazine from the chemistry department is chock full of climate-related projects. Sheesh.

  53. Steve trickler

    Warning about latest windows 10 update. Hold off. Surface tablets and laptops in some cases are being rendered useless. Black screen with only recycle bin and no desktop icons. Start button will not work to access settings. And you can not roll back to previous version. Laptop becomes useless. Be careful

    Causing a lot of bother around the world. Others seem to be fine.

    Microsoft…wankers.

  54. calli

    All this talk about Stormy’s assets made me wonder. Are they Takatas?

  55. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    stormy tits

    If it was on the other attractive ones, I’d might’ve posted the youtube, but yeah…..nah.

  56. Delta A

    I did the standard ‘does my bum look big in this’ with ∆A as my moniker, but The Cat binned me as an intruder, so I’m back to plain Delta again. Sad.

  57. Snoopy

    Just got hit up $13 for a gin and tonic (for the dedicated driver) at a suburban Brisbane pub owned by Woolworths. Won’t be back. Evah. FMD.

  58. Percy Popinjay

    Samantha Maiden stood down from Sky News for workplace bullying

    Bwahahahahahahahaha! Another one for Iowahawk’s groundbreaking Media Violence Project.

  59. Delta A

    Another troll-free page. Bliss while it lasts.

  60. hzhousewife

    Here is where that came from. Three months ago a dear friend was diagnosed with MND. He is/was a local farmer of note, aged about 60, Two years ago he did have an episode of muscle weakness when drenching his sheep, but nothing in the interim. His first reaction to me was, shit I can’t believe this, it’s not fair. I agreed with him, told him I was as pissed as he was, we hugged. Next time I saw him he had a walking frame. The day he died he had a medical appointment, his dear friend a neighbour farming lady took him home, he asked to be propped up in bed looking out over his farm and wanted boiled egg for tea, when she got back he had died. She was pleased because he was not looking forward to the degenration of nerves that would mean inability to move, speak, breathe – one suffocates. Three months from diagnosis to death.
    So I’ve been thinking about how I would cope in similar circumstances, and I reckon he is a hero and I may not be so stoic, but I’d like to be. That’s all.

  61. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    not long before your doorknob is smarter than you are
    Skynet brought to you by samsung

  62. Percy Popinjay

    Thanks for the warning Steve T. Windoze 10 is currently the greatest source of irritation in my work life.

  63. DrBeauGan

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2719302, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    I’d have given almost the same answer as you did, in agreement with my observation that scientists are mostly happy people and arts academics are mostly a miserable bunch of buggers.

    Dr B – sadly our business has been invaded by a miserable bunch of secular millenarians. The problem with oodles of climate money is it self-selects people who are interested in global warming Armageddon, even if it isn’t happening.

    I was found by my university last year. Took ’em thirty years. Now I get cutesy magazines and begging letters. The latest magazine from the chemistry department is chock full of climate-related projects. Sheesh.

    Yes, I’m talking about the good old days, I guess. When science was about pursuing truth rather than cash or status. You can pity the poor sods who never found out about it, but watching them destroy something wonderful hurts.

    None of the institutions I learnt at have caught up with me. My daughter still gets begging letters from her school. One year they asked for a current photo of her and a brief note on what she is doing now. So I sent them a picture of me smoking a cigar and told them I had changed sex.

  64. Rae

    Beth. You’re making stuff up again.

    Polar bears are very rare in Iceland, and when they do turn up they are usually shot and killed. Polar bear “skins/coats” for sale there are sheepskins sewn together. And when we were there we never saw or heard mention of a single polar bear turning up.

    Same for Greenland, where polar bears didn’t even get a mention from the tour guides in Prins Christian Sund or the locals at Qaqortoc. The only growlers there were the small icebergs that had calved from the glaciers.

  65. hzhousewife

    Another question: are most Kittehs religious?

    Basic RULE 101 – NEVER BE THE EARLY ADOPTER !! Let others be the system testers and wait for the amended update next week !

  66. Snoopy

    his dear friend a neighbour farming lady took him home, he asked to be propped up in bed looking out over his farm and wanted boiled egg for tea, when she got back he had died.

    If only we could all be assured of such a friend and an end.

  67. DrBeauGan

    Delta A
    #2719306, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:32 pm
    I did the standard ‘does my bum look big in this’ with ∆A as my moniker, but The Cat binned me as an intruder, so I’m back to plain Delta again. Sad.

    Persist, ∆! It would be cool.

  68. hzhousewife

    If only we could all be assured of such a friend and an end.

    Yep, that was wonderful. I have a wee rule – never stop making new friends, you never know when you may need one.

  69. Delta A

    Phew, where did all THAT come from !!

    A very moving post, hzhousewife, as was your follow up at 7.36 pm.

    I think we all, from time to time, contemplate the deaths of those close to us and wonder how we would cope in their situations, or worse.

    I have no gems of wisdom to offer. I merely trust, as I guess we all do, that I would manage with dignity. The difference between us is that I do have faith. It is a great comfort to me.

  70. DrBeauGan

    It takes about a day before a name change works, but after that it’s automatic.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Steve trickler

    #2719303, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    Warning about latest windows 10 update. Hold off. Surface tablets and laptops in some cases are being rendered useless. Black screen with only recycle bin and no desktop icons. Start button will not work to access settings.

    I had that problem on a Surface Pro running Windows 10.
    The solution?
    Can’t recall exactly a but it was something like “hold start button and volume button for 30 seconds. Release for 10 seconds. Hold start button for 10 seconds”.
    FFS.
    Really?

  72. Percy Popinjay

    But Samantha doesn’t think she should have to do certain things, as it’s been relayed to me. I might add this has nothing to do with alcohol

    LOL. Which of course, means alcohol has everything to do with it.

  73. Delta A

    Persist, ∆! It would be cool.

    I know! But I’m in moderation. That’s like detention in school. And I’m usually the tyrant issuing it, not the poor schmuck stuck there in limbo.

  74. Mitch M.

    Warning about latest windows 10 update. Hold off. Surface tablets and laptops in some cases are being rendered useless. Black screen with only recycle bin and no desktop icons. Start button will not work to access settings. And you can not roll back to previous version. Laptop becomes useless. Be careful
    Causing a lot of bother around the world. Others seem to be fine.
    Microsoft…wankers.

    Thanks Steve. The idea of biannual feature updates has turned W10 into bloatware. Updates have always been my biggest headache so now I keep recent ISO files to do a repair install if need be. I have seriously contemplated going over to Linux but my database program won’t work there and I like to play some games.

    We need an alternative to W10 because it is now a leading cause of computer issues.

  75. hzhousewife

    The difference between us is that I do have faith. It is a great comfort to me.

    See, I think I have faith too, it just doesn’t look like yours maybe.

  76. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sexually Assaulted By Officer, She Alleged. Footage Shows Otherwise
    Sherita Dixon-Cole, a 37-year-old woman from northeast Texas, was pulled over early Sunday by a Department of Public Safety officer who suspected her of driving while intoxicated.

    The story Dixon-Cole spun afterward was alarming: She claimed the trooper repeatedly told her he’d let her go in exchange for sexual favors. When she said no, she claimed the trooper sexually assaulted her, according to a statement Monday from her attorney.

    Her story was widely shared on social media, aided by social activist and blogger Shaun King, who recently brought attention to the New York lawyer who made xenophobic comments about Spanish-speaking employees at a New York deli. King wrote in a blog post: “This system was not designed to protect us – it was designed to punish us – and for it to do anything other than that – we must force it work on our behalf.”

    But on Tuesday, the Texas Department of Safety released nearly two hours of body camera footage that starkly conflicts with Dixon-Cole’s claims. While parts of the video are blurred or inaudible to conceal the Dixon-Cole’s personal information, it shows her being pulled over and asked to take a sobriety test. She’s then handcuffed and transported to the Ellis County jail, where she’s charged with a DWI. She was released Sunday night after posting bond.

  77. Tom

    Another troll-free page. Bliss while it lasts.

    You wish, Delta.

    Doomlord is determined to make the Cat unusable. It’s a libertarian anarchist self-annihilation thing.

  78. Delta A

    See, I think I have faith too, it just doesn’t look like yours maybe.

    There’s no right or wrong way, hzhousewife. It’s very personal and private, between you and your God.

    I could do much better. I just do the best I can

  79. Snoopy

    A soft boiled egg and a sunset. It doesn’t get much better than that.

  80. Some History

    This was posted late last night. For anyone who missed it [it’s worth a big laugh].

    Stick with me toots. I was dance champ at college 3 years running.

    At a wedding while dancing, this guy is determined….determined… to flip… flip… his partner. With failure staring him in the face and the artistic-dance moment over, twinkle toes perseveres. He’s going to flip her come hell or high water…. or head/spinal injury.

    Thankfully no injuries.

    It starts at 2:08 and runs for about 20 seconds.

  81. hzhousewife

    So we are kindred spirits Delta.

  82. Ubique

    Luke Foley and white flight

    The ABS 2016 Census snapshot for Fairfield tells the story. Syrians, Vietnamese, Chinese and Iraqis (38.0 percent in total) each outnumber the remaining (6.1 percent) of people of Australian extraction.
    These ABS snapshots are useful bits of kit.

  83. Oh come on

    Stormy Daniels is not an attractive woman. If Trump did bang her (and I suspect he did), he’s a cad for cheating on his wife, but – and as much as I think Melania Trump is a surprisingly excellent FLOTUS – he did cheat on his former wife with his current wife, did he not? So the fact he’s a pants man shouldn’t be of any surprise to anyone. However, if he can be criticised further, I’d say he ought to have been a little more discerning with where he put his wing-wang?

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Win 10 updates are fine on my desktop. A couple of weeks ago it put in the ginormous 1803 update.
    The secret is the 500 gig SSD.
    I find my laptop with an old style rotating hard drive takes much much longer, and it still is on Win 7.
    Won’t be long before you won’t have the old HDs.
    Mutatis mutandis.

  85. Oh come on

    And I don’t buy Stormy’s story that Trump was so beguiled by her. That, she just made up.

  86. Delta A

    So we are kindred spirits Delta.

    Proud to be, hzhousewife. 🙂

  87. calli

    What’s a kitteh?

    A female Khat.

  88. Some History

    What’s a kitteh?

    Online usage of the word “kitty” or “cat”. Found most often in the context of lolspeak, or in the anthropomorphism of cats in pictures and other media.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kitteh

    Next question: What’s “lolspeak”?

  89. Tom

    Stormy Daniels is not an attractive woman.

    Goddamn! I’m distraught I missed that scoop.

  90. Nick

    Oh. I just thought that we were all ‘Cats’

  91. max

    and arts academics are mostly a miserable bunch of buggers.

    Anita Brookner’s The Debut, the novelist’s first work, opens with a brilliant line — “Dr. Weiss, at forty, knew that her life had been ruined by literature.”

  92. Oh come on

    Not that I thought Melania Trump would be a bad FLOTUS – I guess I had no expectations of her. However, she’s been all class. A flawless First Lady.

    Exhibit A – the WH Christmas event where all the kids spontaneously piled on for a hug and she was more than happy to hug back. That kind of sincerity is hard to fake.

    Unlike Michelle Obama’s chimeric vegetable garden.

  93. Nick

    Thanks Delta, I think I vomited a little 😉

  94. Steve trickler

    Leigh.

    And no fix from Microsoft. People in business are howling. Hang on to early june for a fix.

    Wtf.

    Unless you are a guru at computers….a fresh install might be needed. Otherwise, the computer you own is dead.

  95. Oh come on

    Oops, here’s the link to brief footage of the lovely, warm and classy FLOTUS welcoming young visitors to the WH during the festive season.

  96. Snoopy

    I enjoyed The Poisonwood Bible. There
    I said it.

  97. Rae

    Stormy Daniels is not an attractive woman.

    Of course she is. Here’s a happy snap of her and Donald Trump Twelve years ago she would have been even better looking.

  98. Oh come on

    LOL!! Oooooops way wrong link!!!

  99. DrBeauGan

    max
    #2719346, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:11 pm
    and arts academics are mostly a miserable bunch of buggers.

    Anita Brookner’s The Debut, the novelist’s first work, opens with a brilliant line — “Dr. Weiss, at forty, knew that her life had been ruined by literature.”

    It makes sense. If you devote your life to reading story books and other people’s thoughts on story books, it must cross your mind at some point that you’ve been missing out on reality. Then you either confront this horrible truth and do something about it, possibly knowing it’s too late to repair the damage, or you go into denial mode, which is a guarantee of being a miserable bugger.

  100. Some History

    LOL!! Oooooops way wrong link!!!

    That ain’t the FLOTUS. That’s….. ARRRHHHHH!!!!

  101. Oh come on

    Sorry everyone, please don’t click the above link! It does NOT take you to footage of a lovely, warm and classy lady!!

    Let’s try that again.

  102. Some History

    LOL!! Oooooops way wrong link!!!

    That ain’t the FLOTUS. That’s….. ARRRHHHHH!!!!

    Nancy Leposi

  103. DrBeauGan

    Oh come on
    #2719359, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    Sorry everyone, please don’t click the above link! It does NOT take you to footage of a lovely, warm and classy lady!!

    You’re not quite as bad as CL, OCO. But watch it!

  104. Makka

    they’re only allowing 22 to be killed in the cull

    Only 22? Hardly being overrun by Grizzlies. I’d love to go to Alaska to see them.

  105. Gab

    Sinclair, would you please ban OCO for posting hideous videos without any warning content?

    Ta.

  106. Oh come on

    If senile and hideous crones are what you’re into, though, definitely hit the link. (And no, it isn’t to CL’s vomitous video of leather-clad EMILYs List rockers, though they’d happily give her a run.)

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Of course she is. Here’s a happy snap of her and Donald Trump Twelve years ago she would have been even better looking.

    So why is CNN obsessing with a woman who had a fling with Trump 12 years ago?

    Incidentally Avenatti has gone to ground. Maybe debtors are chasing him.

    Anti-Trump porn star lawyer Michael Avenatti suddenly vanishes from CNN studios after dozens of interviews

  108. Gary

    Scott Adams

    @ScottAdamsSays

    Four things to understand about SPYGATE: 1) There was no spy in the Trump campaign. 2) The spying that did NOT happen was totally justified. 3) It would be bad for national security to identify the spy who doesn’t exist. 4) His name is Stefan. #SPYGATE

  109. Oh come on

    A well deserved serve, Gab. Sorry everyone. I hope you kept your dinners down.

  110. max

    Not just the academics, Doc. Artists are mostly miserable.

  111. Some History

    A well deserved serve, Gab. Sorry everyone. I hope you kept your dinners down.

    Despite being temporarily blinded, that was hilarious.

  112. Oh come on

    Na…Na…Nashy [long, vacant stare into distance] Perotty happy to take any questions bye bye

  113. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A soft boiled egg and a sunset. It doesn’t get much better than that.

    salt

  114. Oh come on

    Despite being temporarily blinded, that was hilarious.

    Quite unintentional, I assure you.

  115. old bloke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2719063, posted on May 24, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    fairy tales.

    Not so Zippy. There are records of the Apostles travels all over the known world which are recorded elsewhere other than the Christian records. Thomas was one of two Apostles who were known to have travelled to India, Philip was killed in northern India and Thomas in the south.

    The Hindus, after they killed Thomas, decided to incorporate him in their demi-gods.

    Way to the east, you will find that Caradoc (Caratacus) who led the British resistance to the Roman occupation on Britain was already a Christian* (in 40 AD, he was imprisoned in Rome after his defeat and his home became the first Christian church in Rome.

    My point is, Christianity had spread far and wide within a few years of the death and resurrection of Yahoshua ben Yosef ben David ben Elohim, or Jesus Christ if you prefer the Greek. Records of the Apostle’s travels are recorded in many places apart from the Christian records.

    *Surprisingly, Caradoc’s father, King Bran, was also a Christian. There may be some truth in the reports of Yahoshua accompanying his uncle, Yoseph of Arimathea, to Yoseph’s tin mines in Cornwall, within Bran’s kingdom in south-western Britain.

    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon Englands mountains green:
    And was the holy Lamb of God,
    On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

  116. old bloke

    Way to the east = Way out west

  117. Leigh Lowe

    Gary
    #2719367, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    Scott Adams

    @ScottAdamsSays
    Four things to understand about SPYGATE: 1) There was no spy in the Trump campaign. 2) The spying that did NOT happen was totally justified. 3) It would be bad for national security to identify the spy who doesn’t exist. 4) His name is Stefan.

    Snort.
    Classic Dilbert.

  118. Delta A

    old bloke
    #2719378, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    Excellent, informative post, old bloke. Thank you.

  119. DrBeauGan

    max
    #2719370, posted on May 24, 2018 at 8:29 pm
    Not just the academics, Doc. Artists are mostly miserable.

    I don’t know many artists, Max, and none well enough to tell if they were happy. I’d have thought it was fun. It’s complicated enough to keep you busy for a lifetime.

    On the other hand, these days you’d be producing bullshit to get a grant, I guess. That would make anyone miserable.

  120. Todesgiraffen

    No one should be changing the names they use on here, Delta.
    You will confuse people.

  121. 132andBush

    I’d say he ought to have been a little more discerning with where he put his wing-wang?

    You’re not wong.

  122. Rae

    Of course she is. Here’s a happy snap of her and Donald Trump Twelve years ago she would have been even better looking.

    So why is CNN obsessing with a woman who had a fling with Trump 12 years ago?

    Hard to fathom. really. Could it be that he arranged for her to be paid money to keep quiet about said fling? Right about the time he was parading his opponents husbands paramours in the live Candidates debates? Could have something to do with media interest in it. Possibly. Maybe.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hard to fathom. really. Could it be that he arranged for her to be paid money to keep quiet about said fling? Right about the time he was parading his opponents husbands paramours in the live Candidates debates? Could have something to do with media interest in it. Possibly. Maybe.

    Yet none of the MSM are interested in Chelsea’s parentage or Bill’s trips to Epstein’s island where he gave the secret service time off. It’s a mystery!

    One day maybe they’ll discover Uranium One, bashed blackberries (the MSM were hypocritically obsessing about Trump’s phone today), Bleach Bitted hard drives, secret servers, Benghazi election fraud, dead dictators, a ginormous fake charity and a laptop with a folder called “Insurance” on it.

  124. DrBeauGan

    Stormy Daniels could have had her wicked way with me when I was fourteen. Maybe fifteen or sixteen. I’d have thought she was sexy as all get out.

    Nowadays I see silicon, makeup and shallowness.

    Still, she’s more attractive than Nancy Pelosi..

  125. Goanna

    Some bears do want to eat you – after you have been buried for a few weeks in front of his hut.

    I read a Canadian forester’s report of an encounter with a bear, a wrestle in fact. Clearly he must have managed a shot, for he recalled the thing that stayed in his mind was the terrible stench of his breath.

  126. Oh come on

    So why is CNN obsessing with a woman who had a fling with Trump 12 years ago?

    They passionately believe everyone should care as much about this as they do.

    Thing is, pretty much everyone who voted for Trump knew what he was like with women in his personal life. Just the stuff on the public record would instantly disqualify a conventional GOP candidate. However, Trump was a genuine renegade (not a pseudo-renegade like McCain), and he resonated. The point is that he was elected, along with all of the baggage that everyone would expect accompanies a personality like Trump. So he allegedly banged a pornstar – the question isn’t did he. It’s how many. But the people who elected him don’t give a shit about that. Not even the most pious; not when he delivers to them Gorsuch and federally defunded Planned Parenthood.

    The MSM is trying to rescandalise Trump. No, that won’t wash. That was all taken into account and a judgement was rendered on Nov 8, 2016.

  127. Rae

    A mystery? Don’t know.

    Try not to lose track of your own conversation. What was your bone of contention? Oh, yes:

    why is CNN obsessing with a woman who had a fling with Trump 12 years ago?

    Nothing at all to do with Chelseas parentage or Epsteins island or any other pathetic attempted diversion you might try.

    The mystery, my disingenuous correspondent, is why the media would pursue the story of a woman who had been paid to shut up about an affair she had with a candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America. A candidate who, at the same time, was using Presidential candidates live debates to publicly display the former paramours of his opponents husband.

    Why could there be, in the circumstances, any reason for the media to be interested in that womans story. Why?

  128. Tel

    So why is CNN obsessing with a woman who had a fling with Trump 12 years ago?

    Because that’s all they’ve got.

  129. Candy

    It would be a rare man who would knock Stormy Daniels back. Blonde, big bosoms, shapely, nice smile, knows a trick or two. Lol. She attracts men easily.

  130. amortiser

    Rae
    #2719314, posted on May 24, 2018 at 7:42 pm
    Beth. You’re making stuff up again.

    Polar bears are very rare in Iceland, and when they do turn up they are usually shot and killed. Polar bear “skins/coats” for sale there are sheepskins sewn together. And when we were there we never saw or heard mention of a single polar bear turning up.

    Same for Greenland, where polar bears didn’t even get a mention from the tour guides in Prins Christian Sund or the locals at Qaqortoc. The only growlers there were the small icebergs that had calved from the glaciers.

    When I was in Iceland in 2016 the locals said that polar bears were a problem when they were washed ashore on icebergs. Typically they were hungry and therefore highly dangerous. They were shot on sight as they are a danger to both humans and livestock. It was not an uncommon occurrence.

  131. Snoopy

    Candy, can we hook up?

  132. Makka

    Because that’s all they’ve got.

    “Stormy” is a diversion. A desperate one at that. Anything to draw attention away from the Steele Dossier and SPYGATE. Gaggory is too thick to get it.

  133. Rae

    When I was in Iceland in 2016 the locals said that polar bears were a problem when they were washed ashore on icebergs. Typically they were hungry and therefore highly dangerous. They were shot on sight as they are a danger to both humans and livestock. It was not an uncommon occurrence.

    A rare occurrence in Iceland, we were informed. Not even once per year. And we were informed that the same applied to Greenland. As I said earlier.

  134. Gab

    Wow, I did not know all these holes in Obama’s birth certificate story existed.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd58GGJUQAEwf_g.jpg:large

  135. Leigh Lowe

    When I was in Iceland in 2016 the locals said that polar bears were a problem when they were washed ashore on icebergs. Typically they were hungry and therefore highly dangerous. 

    Really?
    They’re just goin’ with the floe.

  136. Am I reading this correctly, if you hold one finger too close in front of your eyes so that you appear to see two, that means there really is two?

  137. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Am I reading this correctly, if you hold one finger too close in front of your eyes so that you appear to see two, that means there really is two?

    clearly you only have one, so the two is an image in your mind, but where is your mind?

  138. JC

    Gab,

    In all honesty, as opposed to rank dishonesty, the Kenyan obviously wouldn’t know where he was born. He had an American mother.

    Having said that, it was the Kenyan himself who was the first birther, by trying to create an exotic image of himself in the early 90s by “lying”, suggesting he was foreign born.

    The second birther of course was Crooked.

  139. JC

    A rare occurrence in Iceland, we were informed. Not even once per year. And we were informed that the same applied to Greenland. As I said earlier.

    Googs, what did you do with the “remains” in the basement? Surely you at least deadlocked the place, right?

  140. DrBeauGan

    notafan
    #2719403, posted on May 24, 2018 at 9:55 pm
    Am I reading this correctly, if you hold one finger too close in front of your eyes so that you appear to see two, that means there really is two?

    No. It means that seeing something is a much more complicated business than you think it is.

    There’s an extensive literature on how our senses work. It is still not fully understood, although we know it’s not much like the eye being a camera that just reports to the brain what is ‘there’.

    You should read about it Notafan, it’s fascinating stuff. Also, hearing is much more complicated than you’d expect.

    It’s why human beings tend to see what we expect to see, which can sometimes be horribly wrong.

  141. Gab

    JC, I never had any belief about the birther conspiracy started by the Clintons(?) but after reading the above … let’s just say, things that make you go “Hmmmm ,,,”

  142. JC

    JC, I never had any belief about the birther conspiracy started by the Clintons(?) but after reading the above … let’s just say, things that make you go “Hmmmm ,,,”

    Yea I know.

  143. Gab

    Mind you, I haven’t fact-checked it.

  144. Rae

    JC. Who is “Googs”? egg_?

  145. Mark A

    JC
    #2719406, posted on May 24, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    A rare occurrence in Iceland, we were informed. Not even once per year. And we were informed that the same applied to Greenland. As I said earlier.

    Googs, what did you do with the “remains” in the basement? Surely you at least deadlocked the place, right?

    What I find strange is, that as soon anyone mentions a place, he not only visited there, but knows a whole lot of wiki about it.

    I really have been to many places, due to work, I add, some good, mostly shyte as you’d expect a mining site would be in a 3rd world country, but I couldn’t match his achievement of visiting the number of places if I’d live to be 200.

  146. DrBeauGan

    Gab
    #2719411, posted on May 24, 2018 at 10:15 pm
    Mind you, I haven’t fact-checked it.

    Fact checking even something as apparently straightforward as that is a big, big job. We used to be able to rely on journos to do it honestly. Now we can’t. This is how civilisations fall apart.

  147. Oh come on

    It would be a rare man who would knock Stormy Daniels back. Blonde, big bosoms, shapely, nice smile, knows a trick or two. Lol. She attracts men easily.

    Candy, stop trying to get into the minds of males (assuming you aren’t one). Stormy’s a tramp. And not an alluring one at that. Not at all one you’re proud to not have taken home to mother.

    Now, from what I saw of Tiger Woods’s mistresses – far inferior to his wife in every worthy and noble attribute, and all clearly not of the kind one has to marry – well, yeah. I can see how a man of little discipline and great means could have a lot of fun with those women.

    But Stormy? No. Even in her prime, she never looked much better than a human blow-up doll.

  148. Makka

    What I find strange is, that as soon anyone mentions a place, he not only visited there, but knows a whole lot of wiki about it.

    Tripadvisor.

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Polar bears are very rare in Iceland, and when they do turn up they are usually shot and killed. Polar bear “skins/coats” for sale there are sheepskins sewn together. And when we were there we never saw or heard mention of a single polar bear turning up.
    Same for Greenland, where polar bears didn’t even get a mention from the tour guides in Prins Christian Sund or the locals at Qaqortoc. The only growlers there were the small icebergs that had calved from the glaciers.

    The polar bears that I, Elizabeth, was referring to were specifically those which came in from Greenland on large ice floes feeling fairly hungry by then. Grigory should learn to read and comprehend. When writing on the Cat of my travels in Iceland in 2016 I gave specific quotes from a government environmental magazine about these bears, the issues raised by farmers who killed them asap, and the Greenland authorities who refused to have them back, plus the general dissembling about these useful killings due to claimed ‘financial difficulties’ of catching and returning these bears. Also raised in this reference was the impact on tourism in both nations and details about attacks by polar bears on tourists in both, particularly in isolated regions in Greenland where there are no ‘tour guides’ providing disinformation to witless Grigory types. The polar bear skins for sale in certain high-end shops in Iceland, selling expensive articles not likely to be purchased by Grigory types, were quite clearly genuine bear skins, including the heads, not spurious tourist ‘coats’ made of lambskins. The bears in Japan’s Shiretoko peninsula, a World Heritage Area, were not Polar Bears, but Brown Bears.

    Rae (Grigorae) is a pathetic little grub who gets off on attacking women, especially me, for no reason whatsoever apart from his delight in retailing disinformation about me, plus his identity theft of me in his past iterations and locational stalking of another woman on this site. His ‘Beth’ nonsense is just another example of it, and I hope newbies are well aware of his character and nastiness and history with regard to women here, and me in particular.

    This is a public service announcement for newbies. SCROLL HIM as dear Baldrick instructs.

  150. Oh come on

    It would be a rare man who would knock Stormy Daniels back.

    This is so stupid, too. You are really very unsophisticated, candy.

  151. Snoopy

    What I find strange is, that as soon anyone mentions a place, he not only visited there, but knows a whole lot of wiki about it.

    Yes, but what you are overlooking is that Iceland is on the way to almost everywhere.

  152. Oh come on

    SCROLL HIM as dear Baldrick instructs.

    Lizzie – you should, too. It wants you to justify yourself.

  153. DrBeauGan

    Candy doesn’t know much about men. She thought Mal Turnbull and Tony Abbott were gentlemen.

  154. Infidel Tiger

    It would be a rare man who would knock Stormy Daniels back.

    I’m married. I’m not cheating on my wife with some wildebeest with a box like a wind tunnel.

  155. Mark A

    Oh come on
    #2719419, posted on May 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    It would be a rare man who would knock Stormy Daniels back.

    You are really very unsophisticated, candy.

    Not if you know who’s sock ‘she’ is.
    If you are observant you will notice the occasional lapses in the content but mostly the style of the posts, where the real personality of the poster emerges.

  156. Oh come on

    Seriously, when anyone sniffily says “well, when I was wherever it is you said you were, I *never* saw any of whatever it is you’re talking about, so clearly you’re wrong”, you know you’re dealing with an A-grade cocksucker.

  157. egg_

    If you are observant you will notice the occasional lapses in the content but mostly the style of the posts, where the real personality of the poster emerges.

    The irresistible pedantry erupts from most of the socks, nasty or charming.

    Socky bedtime soon?

  158. JC

    I’m not cheating on my wife with some wildebeest with a box like a wind tunnel.

    I can’t picture that.

  159. Mark A

    Snoopy
    #2719420, posted on May 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm
    Yes, but what you are overlooking is that Iceland is on the way to almost everywhere.

    Good point Snoopy.
    Never been there and if Iceland’s weather is anything like Irkutsk’s (Russia) then I’ll give it a miss.

    Luckily I’m a bit up the corporate ladder these days, so I’m employed in the mostly civilised regions of earth.
    Like Vienna!

  160. Oh come on

    an A-grade cocksucker

    FYI, candy, for men that’s an insult.

  161. Infidel Tiger

    I can’t picture that.

    You can probably google it.

  162. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2719425, posted on May 24, 2018 at 10:39 pm
    Seriously, when anyone sniffily says “well, when I was wherever it is you said you were, I *never* saw any of whatever it is you’re talking about, so clearly you’re wrong”, you know you’re dealing with an A-grade cocksucker.

    Now, come on, Oh come on – cocksuckers are at least good for one thing……which is more than this trollius faecus

  163. W Hogg

    Apart from the bullshit background story, the birth certificate was completely and indisputably a forgery. But the meeja called that a “conspiracy theory” too. Not a felony.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Am I reading this correctly, if you hold one finger too close in front of your eyes so that you appear to see two, that means there really is two?
    No. It means that seeing something is a much more complicated business than you think it is.

    Yes, it is. Some years ago in Britain they thought I might have a brain tumour, because I was losing peripheral vision under a simple test of looking at a moving red tab the doctor held in each hand and telling him when I saw double and/or alignment. Fortunately a MRI (ugh, shoved into a concrete mixer in a coffin) showed nothing wrong, just an idiosyncratic brain (but you knew that). 🙂

    Seeing double came up again for me recently. I had an anaesthetic in January, nothing too serious. Anaesthetist said to me very sweetly I have just given you a very little pop of champagne, darling, and you might start to see double. His champers comment made me laugh gaily (reclaiming that word) and I don’t recall another thing after that. I did see double, for a moment, when I woke up and it was all over.

  165. JC

    Apart from the bullshit background story, the birth certificate was completely and indisputably a forgery. But the meeja called that a “conspiracy theory” too. Not a felony.

    You know, after what we’re learning about all the bullshit US intel has been up to, it would take them all of 1.34 seconds to crank up a phony birth certificate and post false information in the hospital records.. I wonder was Brennan was doing at the time.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘wildebeest with a box like a wind tunnel’

    Bahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

    Bahaha.

  167. Infidel Tiger

    I have no doubt Obama was born in hawaii, but there is also no doubt the dodgy xunt pretended he was african to get into university. Hence why all his uni records are sealed.

    There’s also little doubt Bill Ayers ghost wrote his two autobiographies and with a cabal of terrorist marxists helped him become Pres.

  168. JC

    I have no doubt Obama was born in hawaii, but there is also no doubt the dodgy xunt pretended he was african to get into university. Hence why all his uni records are sealed.

    One thing that is beyond all doubt. He was the first birther.

  169. Snoopy

    I’m far from being a BO fan and I’m not sure where he was born, but I’m fairly certain that the so-called Kenyan birth certificate that was floating around was comprehensively debunked. That he pretended to be Kenyan born to worm his way into Yale? Well that’s another story.

  170. Old School Conservative

    Has Bolt defended Linda Burney’s doctored transcript yet?

  171. cohenite

    Went and saw Ian Plimer. Since the great Bob Carter died Plimer is the best of the sceptical scientists. His theme that to judge whether today’s climate is unusual (it isn’t) you have to look at the past was riveting; he spoke for 30 minutes, off the cuff about the geological history of the Earth. We live in a benign period; what this planet has dished up in the past is terrifying. Ice and volcanoes are the keys and the oceans the door to climate. CO2 is plant food. And cash and social control for alarmists

    He then looked at the politics. His previous battles with the vile creationists – creation science – paled compared to the alarmists – climate science -; the alarmist tactics have inculcated a generation of Pavlovian students regurgitating alarmist propaganda. He’s not optimistic; it’s going to take deaths from cold and power shortages before the sheeple turn on the alarmists.

    It was sad really; the room was full but there was no one under 50.

  172. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We flew Iceland Air from London to New York in 2016. They offer a very good fare to NY with a three-day stopover in Reykjavík built in to the deal. Recommended. We had just done the Trans-Atlantic Crossing on the Queen Mary 2 from New York and had to return to NY to pick up a flight back to Oz. Caught up with friends and rellies in London on this itinerary.

    Like some other Cats, we have been privileged to have travelled a lot for Hairy’s work (and to a lesser extent my own work). As I’ve already said here, we are now into spending mode after selling up our beach house and Hairy having a few health issues. A certain troll finds my travels, and the fact that I come from a far from privileged background and have married ‘out of class’, too difficult to contemplate as reality. I think I have shown Tinta that a genuine reality to what I say underlies my commenting here and that privacy has been very important to Hairy at times in the past; just as she has similar elements in her life she confided in to me.

    I hope to meet some other Cats IRL in good time. It is nice to be known as oneself sometimes. I introduced myself to Rafe not so long ago. He and Hairy stood together laughing as they watched me walk right by the place where I was supposed to lodge my glass before entry to a lecture hall till Hairy retrieved me. I miss seeing things like that all the time, thinking about something else. Getting into strangers’ cars is my specialty, as all big black cars look the same to me, glasses on or off. Trying fruitlessly to key open the doors of such vehicles in carparks is also something I have often been known to do when worried about my supermarket trolley. It is not just getting older; I was born like this, with a certain lack of mental focus although plenty of ‘brains’ so I’m told. Being half blind with short sight doesn’t help either, as no-one noticed when I was a child. I finally got my eyes tested myself when I was nineteen and the optometrists were amazed that I’d managed so well for years; glasses made the world seem very ugly for the first few weeks, so sharp and hard outlined when I was used to fuzzy.

    I still think the autistic elements in my two older sons come from my first husband’s genetic input; citing his capacity to win medals in philosophy has nothing to do with skiting about having an ‘intellectual’ ex and everything to do with musing about his likely Aspberger’s tendencies. My familial genes are not great for mental illness, but I have luckily escaped that inherited blight. Grace of God, as my Nana used to say.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    He’s not optimistic; it’s going to take deaths from cold and power shortages before the sheeple turn on the alarmists.

    Yes. It feels like two steps forward and one step back as weather is variable and lies are told about it.
    Reality testing will take some time, and some lives, and even then it will just be shrugged shoulders and more money to ‘climate mitigation’ by whatever lunatic method is in favour by that time..

    Our only real hope is to keep technologically proficient in order to deal with natural climatic variation.
    Turning into Venezuela won’t help there.

  174. John Constantine

    “wildebeest with a box like a wind tunnel.”

    Are we really allowed to talk about the Leader of the Australian Opposition like that?.

    He is only one ‘lone wolf nothing to do with the religion of peace’ action away from running the country after all………

  175. C.L.

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! #SPYGATE

    ——

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Clapper has now admitted that there was Spying in my campaign. Large dollars were paid to the Spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look like one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history. SPYGATE – a terrible thing!

  176. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2719442, posted on May 24, 2018 at 11:37 pm
    Trying fruitlessly to key open the doors of such vehicles in carparks is also something I have often been known to do

    Pfffft.

    Last year, in Europe out shopping I went to a car and opened the car door with no trouble. (Not an electronic key).
    The same model, year and colour as our company car. Only difference, it was clean.
    How many times would that happen?

  177. Infidel Tiger

    What a disgrace this xunt of a country is. Luke Foley says the only true and correct thing he has said in his entire life and he has now backed down.

    The immigration ponzi will destroy this country.

  178. Infidel Tiger

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    3h
    Who wouldn’t look at what has happened to places like Merrylands and Guildford (once centres of working class pride) and cash in their housing asset and take their families to outer suburbs? White flight, bloody oath, also known as sound responsible family/parenting decisions.

    If Mark Latham v2018 were running for government now you’d back him in in a second.

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Real Mark Latham
    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    3h
    Memo to Luke Foley: if you are going to live your life by the things Balmain basket weavers find ‘offensive’ you might as well stay in bed all day, as you have jack-shit chance of solving any serious social problems.
    Poor Luke has outed himself as a PC puppet.

    Spot on Latho. Weak xunt finally says something true and he backs down like a little bitch.

  180. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie – you should, too. It wants you to justify yourself.

    I know. It is just that so many others here have wanted justification from me too. In early April this year in a massive pile-on more than thirteen regular commenters here said they’d be glad to see the back of me, some of them even citing Grigorae’s views as good reason why.

    I want newbies to be aware of the background to Grig’s claims that I ‘make stuff up’. I don’t. All experiences I relate here are genuine ones that I have had. I have occasionally had to disguise some aspect of time and place to prevent Hairy (in particular) being identified. Perhaps I ‘talk’ too much here, because I am a very fast typist so write as I think. And jump around in a non-linear fashion on topics too.

    Fast fingers meet female brain?

  181. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #2719449, posted on May 24, 2018 at 11:58 pm

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    3h
    Who wouldn’t look at what has happened to places like Merrylands and Guildford (once centres of working class pride) and cash in their housing asset and take their families to outer suburbs? White flight, bloody oath, also known as sound responsible family/parenting decisions.

    If Mark Latham v2018 were running for government now you’d back him in in a second.

    Shaking off the party machine restrains will free a man.

  182. Infidel Tiger

    Trump was an idiot to ever agree to the Singapore summit. He is being payed for a fool by China.

  183. Trump cancels Singapore meeting with Kim.
    A very strong and impressive letter:

    Oh well, so much for Trump being a deal maker. Another humiliating back down on the global stage, following his failure to follow through on trade sanctions on China. All you have to do is wait him out, he is all talk and no trousers.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Who wouldn’t look at what has happened to places like Merrylands and Guildford (once centres of working class pride) and cash in their housing asset and take their families to outer suburbs? White flight, bloody oath, also known as sound responsible family/parenting decisions.

    The South Coast is full of such escapees. Latho speaks truth to power with crushing honesty.

  185. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How many times would that happen?

    If you’re me, lots. Heaps of black Audi Q5’s in Double Bay Woolies car park. Local tractor.

  186. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2719456, posted on May 25, 2018 at 12:07 am

    How many times would that happen?

    If you’re me, lots. Heaps of black Audi Q5’s in Double Bay Woolies car park. Local tractor.

    I actually opened the strange car, can you manage that?
    That’s what made it different I thought.

  187. Candy, can we hook up?

    You really identify with those incels, don’t you Snoop.

  188. Infidel Tiger

    The idiots on this fallen website who thought Kim would disarm should be mortally embarrassed.

    North Korea is Iran’s weapon factory and China’s puppet. China will never ever allow a pro western state of its border.

  189. John Constantine

    White flight is so offensive to their left, that the new push is total diversity, where dispersal areas are allocated to every non diverse small rural hamlet, so that absolutely no place in Australia will appear optically racist, no matter what it costs to import and house and support the millions of diversity service providers.

    Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

    Comrades.

  190. Oh come on

    No. Venezuela’s rise was steep, and so is its fall. It is reverting to its long term mean. If only Australia were like Venezuela. The decline could be relatively swift, and from there we could rebuild.

    No, Australia is far more like Argentina. Both blessed with abundant natural resources, yes, but also deep cultural wellsprings which nurtured ambitious and enterprising populations. They constructed nations which other nations were willing to make long term investments in. There is a LOT of ruin in such nations. Argentina’s heyday was in the early 20th century. It’s been gradually declining ever since, and it still has some way to fall. Argentinian living standards continue to exceed those of almost all of its neighbours, in spite of its interminable stagnation.

    This is how Australia will go down. Gradually, over lifetimes. We will have no chance of recovery because we will have forgotten how we became wealthy in the first instance.

  191. C.L.

    I see the ASIO director told his nominal bosses today (parliamentarians) that Australia is being overrun by spying spies who will do something (or something) – which will be bad and stuff.

    Ergo: more powers and money, please.

  192. Infidel Tiger

    I see the ASIO director told his nominal bosses today (parliamentarians) that Australia is being overrun by spying spies who will do something (or something) – which will be bad and stuff.

    there is no doubt about that.

    Immigration is poison. We are now a low trust society with zero future.

  193. Oh come on

    Oh well, so much for Trump being a deal maker. Another humiliating back down on the global stage, following his failure to follow through on trade sanctions on China. All you have to do is wait him out, he is all talk and no trousers.

    Really bad trolling, m0nts. It’s clear your heart isn’t in it.

  194. C.L.

    The idiots on this fallen website who thought Kim would disarm should be mortally embarrassed.

    Why?
    Disarming a communist state is an epochal defeat for the enemy and should always be striven for. I don’t recall anybody saying Kim would disarm as a matter of inevitable course. But hold your horses and don’t get the Montys; North Korea has the next move and then the US another move. And so on. You have to stop seeing the world in 24 hour news cycles.

  195. Makka

    Oh well, so much for Trump being a deal maker.

    Unlike your hero , the Kenyan. Who arranged for the terrorist state Iran to have nukes and sent $250 Billion in cash to them to boot. Great deal that was. NK eventually will come begging for any deal Trump will give. China will ensure it.

  196. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2719454, posted on May 25, 2018 at 12:05 am

    Trump cancels Singapore meeting with Kim.
    A very strong and impressive letter:

    Oh well, so much for Trump being a deal maker.

    One can only make deals with a willing and interested partner.
    Can we ever convince you of your ‘rake gathering wrongness’?

  197. Makka

    The idiots on this fallen website who thought Kim would disarm should be mortally embarrassed.

    North Korea is Iran’s weapon factory and China’s puppet. China will never ever allow a pro western state of its border.

    mUnty is writing your material now. Sad.

  198. Infidel Tiger

    Learn geography and history please Makka.

    This failed and fallen website need great healing.

  199. C.L.

    My prediction: the meeting will take place.

  200. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #2719459, posted on May 25, 2018 at 12:11 am
    China will never ever allow a pro western state of its border.

    Not arguing, asking, why not?
    Do you honestly believe that a tiny sliver of land border makes any difference with the armament available today?

    Geography you say? China has more historical and current potential problems with Vietnam and India than it would from a pro-western Korea.

  201. Mark A

    Mark A
    #2719472, posted on May 25, 2018 at 12:35 am

    Infidel Tiger

    PS. take into account that Chinese citizens are mostly free to travel, so a border crossing to a western state is of limited importance as far as dissidents are concerned.

  202. Infidel Tiger

    Are you fucking serious?

    You are stupid enough to be a neocon.

  203. NK eventually will come begging for any deal Trump will give. China will ensure it.

    Yeah nah. China has played Trump off a break like Lindrum. China owns this century.

    Admittedly there may not have been much Trump could have done to stop that even if he was competent, but as it is he is trundling around the negotiating table with his dacks around his ankles.

  204. My prediction: the meeting will take place.

    Why would Kim take it? He got what he wanted, which is to preen on the international stage as if he was an equal of the leader of the free world. Trump has no leverage.

  205. snd there I was thinking at a certain point our eyes don’t work together properly.

    My son’s eyes do this from around a metre out and the solution was corrective glasses.

    But well done chiming in Dr Pompous Mediocrity.

    Sometimes it is just a sciency thing, not a metaphysical philosophy athiesm justification thing..

  206. JC

    God’s in trouble

    Women accuse Morgan Freeman of inappropriate behavior, harassment

  207. I would have major trouble as a juror if Freeman started talking in his documentary voice-over tone.

    “Yes, I did touch that lady, but if you look at it from the long view, the world turns on its axis and none of this really matters, now does it.”

  208. JC

    Why would Kim take it? He got what he wanted, which is to preen on the international stage as if he was an equal of the leader of the free world. Trump has no leverage.

    Do you understand that your Asian half brother, the fat little fuck, threatened the US again with nukes? In that situation Trump couldn’t take the call.

  209. Do you understand that your Asian half brother, the fat little fuck, threatened the US again with nukes? In that situation Trump couldn’t take the call.

    Trump approved manoeuvres with the SKs featuring B-52s. The Norks hate those planes, using them was a provocation. Trump only has himself to blame for losing the game.

    Kim is more chance for the Nobel than Trump at this point. All he has to do is meet with Xi and shake his hand with some faff about disarmament, while Xi pledges to back him up and bolster his regime. That would make it explicit that Trump got played.

  210. Anthony

    Kim young one is reported to have received a copy of Trump’s Art of the deal. The stupid bastard obviously hasn’t read it. The Chinese obviously have and given the parlous state of their economy they will be forced to bring the young one to heel.

  211. W Hogg

    Kim is more chance for the Nobel than Trump at this point. All he has to do is meet with Xi and shake his hand with some faff about disarmament, while Xi pledges to back him up and bolster his regime. That would make it explicit that Trump got played.

    If DPRK unilaterally denucularises and Xi wins a Nobel then T666 will have failed bigly. /mOron

    mOron is now a parody account of his own parody account.

  212. rickw

    Oh well, so much for Trump being a deal maker. Another humiliating back down on the global stage, following his failure to follow through on trade sanctions on China. All you have to do is wait him out, he is all talk and no trousers.

    I would think that sanctions against China may follow swiftly now that Xi has decided not to climb down the ladder.

  213. Mark A

    rickw
    #2719490, posted on May 25, 2018 at 2:40 am

    I would think that sanctions against China may follow swiftly now that Xi has decided not to climb down the ladder.

    Can’t see the disadvantage to the US in that, other than the plebs buying junk from a different source.
    But China for all its bluster could be brought to its knees if the western world decided she needed to learn a lesson in international trade relations.

    Never happens of course.

  214. OldOzzie

    EDITORIALS
    Shorten fails character test on doctored TV transcript

    There’s a reason Labor frontbenchers and backbenchers send out press releases and transcripts through Bill Shorten’s office — all except Anthony Albanese, who’s too independent to cop such nannying. The reason for the centralisation is to avoid pitfalls such as the falsification of the transcript of MP Linda Burney’s foolish comments about asylum-seeker policy on Sky News . A spokesman for the Opposition Leader blamed Ms Burney’s office yesterday, claiming the doctoring was a “mistake”. Ms Burney said the error was “unintentional”. Hardly. Hundreds of words, embarrassing to Mr Shorten on a touchy issue, were changed or deleted. Even the text of David Speers’s questions was altered. The rewrite, as Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton says, was deliberate fabrication.

    However much Mr Shorten’s staff try to hide him behind the Sergeant Schultz “I know nothing” defence, it won’t wash after years of doublespeak and falsehoods. The gravest of these, which upset old people who received robocalls and texts, was the despicable “Mediscare” scam at the 2016 election. Mr Shorten claimed, dishonestly, that the government planned to privatise Medicare. It was a low blow. The Coalition was too slow hitting back and almost lost office over the issue.

    More recently, Mr Shorten dug himself into a deep hole with his “rolled-gold guarantees” during the dual citizenship fiasco that he was “more than satisfied” all Labor MPs were eligible to sit in parliament because of the party’s superior vetting process. When that line was destroyed by the High Court he claimed the court had come up with a “new” and “stricter” test on judging the eligibility of MPs under section 44 of the Constitution. Not true. There was no legal change.

    Mr Shorten’s credibility is also threadbare on company tax cuts, which he now dismisses as “handouts” to the “big end of town”. But in office in 2011, he told parliament cutting company taxes “increases domestic productivity and domestic investment … and leads to more jobs and higher wages”. Was he speaking with a forked tongue then? As Dennis Shanahan wrote last week, in 2005 Mr Shorten supported just three tiers of personal income tax with a top rate of 30 per cent. What does he believe? Or does he just spin out lines to suit the prevailing political winds? So much for conviction and principle.

    Shifting sands are nothing new to Mr Shorten. His backflip over the Adani coalmine also was striking. In 2016 he branded the same-sex marriage postal vote “a taxpayer-funded platform for homophobia”. But Shanahan recalled a meeting in 2013 where Mr Shorten was “completely relaxed” about a plebiscite because “I would rather the people of Australia could make their view clear on this than leaving this issue to 150 people”.

    Greater transparency about Mr Shorten’s doings as the Australian Workers Union’s national chief would help shine a light on his character. Last year, Brad Norington revealed the AWU, under his leadership, donated $100,000 or more in seed funding to GetUp! , where Mr Shorten served on the board. How many of its radical causes does he still support? He also arranged a $25,000 donation of AWU funds to his Maribyrnong campaign in 2007. Despite repeated requests, the union has not produced minutes to show the donations were approved by the AWU national executive. Doubts remain about whether required processes were followed.

    The sore spot touched by Ms Burney, however, goes to an issue far more serious to the national interest. The opposition is in schism on border protection, with Ms Burney among those “very passionate”, she told Speers, about putting time limits on offshore detention on Manus Island and Nauru. That argument was cut from the transcript sent out by Mr Shorten’s office. The consequences of Labor going soft on Coalition border protection policies were made clear in the Rudd-Gillard years: 50,000 asylum-seekers arriving by boat; 1200 drownings; jam-packed detention centres. Labor activists will push for policy change at the party’s upcoming national conference. Mr Shorten will insist common sense will prevail. So did Kevin Rudd in 2007. Mr Shorten also showed bad judgment in November urging Malcolm Turnbull to consider accepting New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s offer to resettle 150 refugees. People-smugglers know that travellers who arrive in New Zealand qualify for Australian visas. It would be their strongest selling point for years. Altering a transcript will not alter Labor’s weaknesses on border protection policy. But it has put the focus on Mr Shorten’s trustworthiness.

  215. Mark A

    Went to a lecture today about logistics in general and military logistics in particular.

    There is only one relevant message I came away with re. military logs. No matter what sort of an alliance you are part of, your troops have only one reliable source of supply.
    Your own national government. (and even that can depend on other forces’ supply lines subject to location)

  216. Mark A

    I agree OldOzzi
    Thanks Tom

  217. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You really identify with those incels, don’t you Snoop.

    er … how old were you when you finally got laid. I would shut up if I were you.

  218. OldOzzie

    A touch of Humor – but probably horribly prescient as to how today’s meeting will turn out

    Big Day For The Swamp – Gang of Eight, Plus Gowdy and Kelly, Meet With DOJ, FBI and DNI To Debate Transparency…

    ♦ At the 2:00pm meeting seven well known Deep State members of the Gang of Eight, both Democrats and Republicans, will align with the subordinate cabinet officers DAG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Chris Wray, against the sunlight and oversight demands of Devin Nunes, John Kelly and presumably Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats.

    ♦If historic patterns repeat, at approximately 2:30pm Adam Schiff will excuse himself to use the restroom and place a guarded phone call to congressional correspondent Manu Raju of CNN, whereby he will leak briefing details for the lead story at the 3:00pm hour.

    Awaiting Schiff’s return signal, Pelosi and Schumer will run a distraction campaign discussing tea biscuits and gun control efforts, while Mark Warner uses his blackberry under the table to text message the Russian couriers waiting outside.

  219. Ragu

    President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech

    This is outright stupid. A Twitter person is free to rant and rave to their friends. Free speech doesn’t mean you have a right to tell someone to go fuck themselves and expect them to have to hear it.
    I don’t think the judge has thought things through, because according to her, it would be fine if I picked up the phone and abused her and she would just to take it because it would violate my right to Free Speech.

    So the idea that, because it’s a public space, that you just have to eat a dick is even more absurd.

    Everyone is free to ignore anybody

  220. Baldrick

    Finally some common sense …

    Harry Khachatrian ✔ @Harry1T6
    BREAKING: Hawaiian judge blocks Trump’s cancellation of Kim Jong-un summit

  221. OldOzzie

    Ragu
    #2719514, posted on May 25, 2018 at 5:19 am

    President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech

    Judge rules against Trump on Twitter blocking

    Noah Feldman, a liberal Harvard law professor and author of an excellent biography of James Madison, disagrees that forum in question is public. He told the Washington Post that the case is wrongly decided because for a public forum to exist, the government must own or control it. Here, Twitter controls Trump’s account.

    David French at NRO makes the same argument. He cites these words from Twitter’s terms of service:

    We may suspend or terminate your account or cease providing you with all or part of the Services at any time for any or no reason, including, but not limited to, if we reasonably believe: (i) you have violated these Terms or the Twitter Rules, (ii) you create risk or possible legal exposure for us; (iii) your account should be removed due to prolonged inactivity; or (iv) our provision of the Services to you is no longer commercially viable. We will make reasonable efforts to notify you by the email address associated with your account or the next time you attempt to access your account, depending on the circumstances.

    Thus, says French, “using Twitter isn’t like renting out a concert hall or reserving space in a public park” because “Twitter is in command, not Trump, and to the extent that Trump does anything, he does so only with Twitter’s permission.”

  222. Baldrick

    Well the man does have precedent:

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    “Know when to walk away from the table.” The Art of the Deal
    4:25 AM · Jul 28, 2011

  223. Ragu

    for a public forum to exist, the government must own or control it. 

    How disturbing is that thought

  224. Zatara

    OldOzzie,

    That redacted $70,000 table was one of the “sensitive Nation Security” items the DoJ was claiming in order to keep the documents from the Congress.

    And they wonder why nobody trust them anymore.

  225. will

    No, Australia is far more like Argentina. Both blessed with abundant natural resources, yes, but also deep cultural wellsprings which nurtured ambitious and enterprising populations. They constructed nations which other nations were willing to make long term investments in. There is a LOT of ruin in such nations. Argentina’s heyday was in the early 20th century. It’s been gradually declining ever since, and it still has some way to fall. Argentinian living standards continue to exceed those of almost all of its neighbours, in spite of its interminable stagnation.

    This is how Australia will go down. Gradually, over lifetimes. We will have no chance of recovery because we will have forgotten how we became wealthy in the first instance.

    prophetically true

  226. Tintarella di Luna

    The series of articles on teachers preying on schoolgirls is spearheaded by Hedley Thomas. Why did the Royal Commission into the institutional response to child sexual abuse not look at government schools as well as government agencies responsible for the welfare of children? Was that because it called a heathen out to damage a political opponent with ‘get the churches’ royal commission?

  227. Tintarella di Luna

    Furthermore why didn’t the Royal Commission examine the role of our state and federal parliaments given the number of politicians which have been tried and convicted of sexual offences against children? Statistically speaking the numbers are appalling.

  228. None

    Ben Garrison cannot draw Trump. Last night was funny today except I can’t work out if that’s supposed to be Chris Bowen or the Belgian Euro weeny.

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