Open Forum: May 26, 2018

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  1. JC

    Giraffe

    Stop worrying about it because there’s frankly nothing to worry about. Certainly, machines will replace humans in the dreariest jobs such as a motor vehicle production etc. Machines have and always will augment human labor. This is not going to change. At the micro-level there will obviously be people experiencing hardship, but at the macro most western countries are richer than ever and the populations fatter than they have ever been.

    This stuff has been working itself out for the past 250 years,- since the advent of the industrial revolution.

    For the present time, keep in mind that for the most part AI requires CLEAN data to be able to operate well. The largest chunk of accumulated data isn’t just dirty – it’s filthy, which will take decades to sort out.

    Work times are getting shorter and shorter too at the higher and mid level jobs. I reckon it’s no more than 15 hours a week of real work – even though people stay on and do 40 hours or so.

  2. Death Giraffe

    Stimpys Online Doomsday Prepping and Weekly Grocery Service is absolutely booming at the moment, can I just say.

    ..
    What about Stimpson’s Drive thru Funeral Parlour and Burrito Hut? How is that going?

  3. H B Bear

    I’m paywalled too. I normally buy a dead tree version on Saturday though.

  4. Stimpson J. Cat

    OK, Dead Giraffe isn’t IT.

    It’s probably Arma.
    I don’t think Annie is a lesbian, although I am more than happy for her to send me some tastefully composed images care of Sinc to prove me wrong.

  5. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I guess it depends how early you get up in the morning, IT, but it’s been down to 5° on my morning trot around the block. And the rain! And the louring clouds! OK, you’re tougher than me, I admit it.

    That’s not a winter, it’s barely an autumn.

  6. DrBeauGan

    It’s hosted by Sophie Monk who’s a rolled-gold legend though she admits she’ll have to wing it because she can’t read scripts. “I can’t read a teleprompter,” she says. “I’m lucky I don’t have to do it, ‘cos I can’t. They have to write things out for me alphanetically (sic) … is that how you say it?”

    She should go into politics.

  7. Stimpson J. Cat

    What about Stimpson’s Drive thru Funeral Parlour and Burrito Hut? How is that going?

    I couldn’t do Burritos as it would be Ethnic Entrapment according to Australian Criminal Law, I checked.
    I still run the Stimpys Professional Mourning Service on the weekends.
    There is a big market for qualified Moirologists, believe it or not.

  8. DrBeauGan

    That’s not a winter, it’s barely an autumn.

    I’ve done northern hemisphere winters in Norway and the well named UK, Zippy.

    And I don’t like them.

    The proper place for snow is on Christmas cards.

  9. Ragu

    All the shit is made in China or Bangladesh. 

    That’s not true. All my Musto sailing gear, the official outdoor wear of Her Majesty and the Duke of Edinburgh, is made in Myanmar.

    There is heaps of jobs, but the western world has just about outlawed most of them because working on a production line has been declared to be beneath dignity.

    So huge swathes of jobs have been outsourced to the lesser parts of the world enabling people like you and me to be able to pay $4 for a coffee while hagglers call us up to sell insurance.

  10. Top Ender

    You are right Nemkat – brain fail.

  11. JC

    Winston Smith
    #2721417, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:07 pm

    JC;

    This should eventually correct itself.

    I don’t see any mechanism that would do that, JC.

    I guess that settles it then.

    Tell us Murgatroyd, if you were sitting around somewhere in the Soviet Union during the 70’s would you have believed that in say 15 years the wall would have come down and the Sov broken down into small bits and pieces?

    How about China, during the worst excesses of the Cultural Revolution?

    Humanity ebbs and flows.

    Here’s the problem, most of us think inside very narrow boundaries. We’ve seen a toxic cultural Marxist strain of thinking throughout the West to some degree, but the West isn’t the entire world.

    Now ask yourself this… Is the world…globally that is.. freer than what it was compared to what it was in the 70’s and 80’s? The answer is unequivocally yes, it is.

  12. Dr Fred Lenin

    A previous cat said the US decromats keep replaying the election , with their mindset thy might even think they will win the replay . It’s just not fair they lost ,an excellent candidate when she wasn’t falling over or speaking , Trumps so called Russian involvement ,his lack if political experience and the truth he was telling made it a shoo in for the decromats . Didn’t work comrades did it ,? didn’t get enough non eligible illegal voters out and lose enough republican ballot papers . Ah well with the really capable people in the party you will win the next election ,won’t you . The large number who go to prison won’t affect the result .

  13. JC

    I’ve done northern hemisphere winters in Norway

    You should have called the Hotline, Doc. Instead of trying to commit suicide by going to Norway in the winter it would have been more effective to just call the Hotline. 🙂

  14. cynical1

    Donald Trump ‘singled out a ‘young socialite’ at his Mar-a-Lago club and told reporter ‘there is nothing in the world like first-rate p**sy” in interview with defunct golf magazine years before infamous Access Hollywood tape

    Most men think “Yup, you lucky bastard”.

    The rest are leftist trannies.

    Or media types.

    Or both.

  15. stackja

    The certainties of life!

  16. JC

    Stackjar

    You’re texting again.

  17. DrBeauGan

    Now ask yourself this… Is the world…globally that is.. freer than what it was compared to what it was in the 70’s and 80’s? The answer is unequivocally yes, it is.

    Sure, JC. They’ve stolen our good ideas and we’ve stolen their bad ones.

  18. DrBeauGan

    You should have called the Hotline, Doc. Instead of trying to commit suicide by going to Norway in the winter it would have been more effective to just call the Hotline.

    My favourite winter experience was eating haggis filling in an Edinburgh Spudulike. Talk about suffering in the cause of new experience.

  19. JC

    Sure, JC. They’ve stolen our good ideas and we’ve stolen their bad ones.

    Doc, remember that in a lot of political/economic discussions with leftists there was always the…

    Look, but at Schweden

    .. as the exemplar of economic and civic virtue. We’re not quite there yest, but we’re very close to seeing people begin to snigger at such a preposterous suggestion.

  20. zyconoclast

    Christians all in a huff about Thomas the Tank Engine, while real threat to children is ignored

    This week, while Bernardi and co were jumping Tank Engine-shaped shadows, Adelaide Archbishop Philip Wilson was found guilty of concealing child sexual abuse during the 1970s in the Hunter region of NSW. He becomes the most senior Catholic in the world to be convicted of such charges.
    And what does the Christian right do in the face of these threats to the safety and wellbeing of Australian children? It works ever harder to expand the reach of churches – predominantly Christian churches – throughout Australian primary and secondary education, including through the public school system, where many parents choose to educate their children free of religious indoctrination.

  21. stackja

    Texting makes the Cat go round, texting, texting.

  22. Boambee John

    DrBG at 1629

    In the UK in the 1980s, saw a cartoon of a SpudULike shop with a garbage bin outside labelled SpudUDon’tLike. Is that where the haggis ended up?

  23. stackja

    Sidney mourning homosexual worried about children?

  24. Dr Fred Lenin

    JC as you point out ,change is always with us , the things that have happened during my 80 years on earth are breathtaking . Here I am wit h mobile phones, iPads ,remote controls. Huge tvs ,and of course the pharmacies that keep a lot of oldies alive. When I was young people of 70 were very old ,now they are “late middle age “ as I call them . Good on you with the lifeline work , you do good work there , I have known a few suicides in my time ,very sad for those they leave behind, it’s often preventable with good counselling

  25. JC;

    Tell us Murgatroyd, if you were sitting around somewhere in the Soviet Union during the 70’s would you have believed that in say 15 years the wall would have come down and the Sov broken down into small bits and pieces?

    In 1975 the SU was as it had been for decades – a monolith that showed no signs of weakness. What I am saying is that “I don’t see any mechanism that would do that, JC.” Since 1917, the swing had only ever been one way.
    If you can see another mechanism that was on the horizon, we could talk about that.

  26. Makka

    Brought china to heel on what eggsactly?

    I didn’t say brought. I said bringing, it’s a process underway.Like tariffs.

    Sorting out NK means also sorting out China. That’s the dynamic.

  27. Zatara

    The WH official made the statement to a room full of reporters.

    Odd that neither the official’s name nor that of the ‘reporter’ was given.

    Odder still, out of that “room full of reporters” nobody else mentioned it.

  28. JC

    Fred

    I reckon the amount of technological change now is not as overwhelming compared to what people experienced from 1870 to 1920.

    Railway
    Steamship
    Telegraph
    Radio

    And more.

    These were collectively earth shattering.

  29. DrBeauGan

    Boambee John
    #2721450, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:33 pm
    DrBG at 1629

    In the UK in the 1980s, saw a cartoon of a SpudULike shop with a garbage bin outside labelled SpudUDon’tLike. Is that where the haggis ended up?

    😂😂🤗

    No, I ate it. It was long ago, in my try anything phase.

    I was much tougher then.

  30. Don’t be wilfully obtuse, Monty. No real person said what the NYT reported. NYT’s account was a complete fabrication, or as you might say, an alternative truth.

    LOL alright Snoop, shine on.

  31. zyconoclast

    A Graduation Address from 1936

    My Dear Friends:

    You are living now, not simply preparing to live. You can never turn back the page. The years will only provide opportunity to live more effectively. But the past can become inspiration, equipment and direction. The earth transmutes the foliage and flowers of the past into the beauty and fruit of the present.

    I wish for each one of you the finest that can be achieved in life, and the largest service possible to your capacity.

    Always be open to truth. Wherever you find it recognize it as the manifestation of God. There has never been, nor will there ever be, any conflict between science and religion. All come from the same heavenly Father. A child knows there is a difference between his father’s pencil and his watch, but never doubts that both belong to his father. Never be afraid of any truth.

    Be sure you do more than seek truth. Find it. It is not the search for food that builds the body, but its assimilation. It is imperative that you believe some things so firmly that they become a part of you. Stability is rooted in integrity. Honor, virtue, courage and faith are eternal virtues, and without them your life will be a compromise.

    I believe you have as fine qualities as ever gave surety to the hopes of any generation. You face the world at a period of arresting questions, difficult problems and a restless social order. Yet, it is a period of growth, holding before you the challenge whose terms demand your best.

    Let that singing line from Tennyson’s Idylls of the King stay with you – “O Loyal to the royal in thyself.”

    Sincerely your friend,

    Richard S. Owens

  32. Fred;

    Good on you with the lifeline work , you do good work there , I have known a few suicides in my time ,very sad for those they leave behind, it’s often preventable with good counselling

    Umm. Fred.
    It’s not that kind of Lifeline…

  33. stackja

    World’s greatest trader? Dreaming.

  34. Stimpson J. Cat

    it’s often preventable with good counselling

    In all seriousness, I actually consider it one of my missions in life to convince Sane People not to top themselves, and to instead just be f$cking patient patients, like me.
    It’s why God and Jesus typically leave me to my own devices.
    They really appreciate the work I’m doing.
    (Although the odd gift voucher or card or bunch of flowers wouldn’t go astray fellas, for f$cks sake.)

  35. Oh come on

    Great video, Steve Trickler. Not only for the quaint 1960s TV production values – that nationwide hookup must have been quite the technological feat in 1967!

    I was listening to a Larry Elder clip this morning where Elder, on his radio show, addressed some leftist bleating about how intractably bad the racial divisions are in the US today. Elder made the point that they were a hell of a lot worse in 1968, around the time when MLK was assassinated. That clip you posted from 1967 suggests that Elder is right on the money, as he usually is.

  36. Ubique

    Just watched the Eagles win their ninth game in a row, this one against Hawthorn. Female commentary featured heavily on Channel 7, just as it does on the ABC. Disappointing that disabled and transgender commentators are still being shut out of the game.
    The netball on TV not troubled by any thought of diversity; wall to wall female commentators, no problem.

  37. Snoopy

    Now ask yourself this… Is the world…globally that is.. freer than what it was compared to what it was in the 70’s and 80’s? The answer is unequivocally yes, it is.

    That makes as much sense as speaking of the worlds average temperature increasing.

    Freer? Think workplaces, speech, opinion, smoking, driving, airports and flying, sports stadiums, flirting etc. Where are WE freer?

  38. zyconoclast

    Is 100 Percent Renewable Energy Possible?

    I ran a one-year simulation of a battery storage system large enough to maintain an average of 6,000 megawatts of output from the Texas wind system. It turned out that that the battery would have to be able to store 430 hours of average power output. A lithium ion battery big enough for that would cost about $500 billion, or about ten times what it cost to build the entire wind system. Such a battery would have to be replaced every ten years. On the other hand, six nuclear plants big enough to supply 6,000 megawatts continuously would cost about $36 billion. Natural gas-generating plants to supply 6,000 megawatts would cost $6 billion. The gas would cost about $1.16 billion per year.

    Yet 6,000 megawatts of generation is a small fraction of the needs of Texas, which run as high as 70,000 megawatts.

  39. JC

    Since 1917, the swing had only ever been one way.

    250 million people in the old Soviet Union
    1 billion in China
    1 billion in India*.

    This is not even counting satellite countries. 35% of the world’s population is economically freer and marginally politically freer than previously. But you’re arguing the world has only veered left for the past 100 years. Are you mad?

    Look, in population terms, UK, Sweden and Canada etc, taking a dip into leftwing abyss doesn’t even register on an atomic weighing machine.

  40. zyconoclast

    Christian Parent Furious After School Instructs Children To Write Out Their Submission To Allah

    Republish
    Reprint
    A West Virginia school has come under fire for instructing junior high students to write the Islamic profession of faith ostensibly to practice calligraphy.

    Rich Penkoski, a Christian parent and founder of online ministry Warriors for Christ, raised alarms over a packet on Islam his daughter’s seventh grade social studies teacher issued to students, according to Christian Post. The packet, edited from the full version of a world religions workbook, instructed students to practice writing the Shahada, or Islamic profession of faith, in Arabic calligraphy — an assignment that, if left undone, would result in detention, according to Penkoski’s daughter.

    The Shahada states: “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”

  41. Snoopy

    And not forgetting firearms.

  42. JC

    That makes as much sense as speaking of the worlds average temperature increasing.

    It does make sense, as you’re just being a periodic idiot.

    Freer? Think workplaces, speech, opinion, smoking, driving, airports and flying, sports stadiums, flirting etc. Where are WE freer?

    In parts of the west that’s most certainly the case. However, parts of the west isn’t the world in population terms… not weight of the economy.

    Globally, in human population terms the world hasn’t ever been economically and politically (marginally) freer than what it is now at this moment in time.

  43. DrBeauGan

    Freer? Think workplaces, speech, opinion, smoking, driving, airports and flying, sports stadiums, flirting etc. Where are WE freer?

    Quite so, Snoopy.

    And where are the prospects for improvement?

  44. Makka

    Now ask yourself this… Is the world…globally that is.. freer than what it was compared to what it was in the 70’s and 80’s? The answer is unequivocally yes, it is.

    Not really relevant. What matters to us is freedom in the west. Since the 80’s , our freedoms have eroded, unequivocally.

  45. Death Giraffe

    Fuck the world’s population.

  46. Snoopy

    In parts of the west that’s most certainly the case.

    Name those parts of the West where it ISN’T the case.

  47. JC

    Snoopy
    #2721471, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    And not forgetting firearms.

    have you seen the number’s on gun sales in the US since 2007? It’s off the fucking charts. I made decent cash trading in and out of gun makers up to about 4 years ago on this very thesis.

    Obama… the Kenyan was THE GUN PRESIDENT!

    Never forget that next time you’re talking to a leftie. If they talk about guns remind them the Kenyan was the gun president.

  48. DrBeauGan

    Globally, in human population terms the world hasn’t ever been economically and politically (marginally) freer than what it is now at this moment in time.

    The rest of the world has definitely improved, mainly from abject poverty to getting to where we were a century ago. But sod foreigners. It’s where we are going is my concern.

  49. Stimpson J. Cat

    Globally, in human population terms the world hasn’t ever been economically and politically (marginally) freer than what it is now at this moment in time.

    The best way to measure poverty is whether you can afford a mobile phone or not.

  50. Oh come on

    LOL love your work Dr Fred!

    JC loves his Hotline work, too. It’s very rewarding. Anyone can talk someone back from the edge. But it takes real dedication and determination to talk someone over the edge, particularly when they are only at ‘cry for help’ tyre-kicking stage.
    Particularly in the lean years, like 2008-2010. You just can’t learn the kind of heroic salesmanship skills needed for the Hotline to meet its daily quotas in an era of Hopenchange. You need a gift.

    Granted, the advent of the Trumpenreich means business is booming at the Hotline. But the pendulum will swing back, and we need to be ready.

  51. Death Giraffe

    Let’s face facts.
    Our elites took a long look at us, a long look at the trillions of dollars to be made globally, took another look at us and went:
    “Fuck you, we want the money”.

  52. zyconoclast

    Mogadishu, Minnesota
    A massive daycare fraud in America’s most welcoming state raises questions about the limits of assimilation.

    Starting in the 1990s, the State Department directed thousands of refugees from Somalia’s civil war to Minnesota, which is now home to the largest population of Somalis outside Somalia itself. As the Washington Times noted in 2015, in Minnesota, these refugees “can take advantage of some of America’s most generous welfare and charity programs.” Professor Ahmed Samatar of Macalester College in St. Paul observed, “Minnesota is exceptional in so many ways but it’s the closest thing in the United States to a true social democratic state.” A high-trust, traditionally homogenous community with a deep civil society marked by thrift, industriousness, and openness, Minnesota seemed like the ideal place to locate an indigent Somali population now estimated at 100,000.

  53. Death Giraffe

    Then they paid Bono and other arseholes to wag their fingers at us.

  54. Dr Fred Lenin

    True JC , I love to walk around Melbourne CBD , it’s amazing the infrastructure still in use built during Victorian and Edwardian times , those people were dynamos ,and all built by hard labour ,the Victorians were the most industrious inventive people that had ever existed . Our present prosperity is all based on the foundations they laid .
    Off topic I knew a guy from a family where the father suicided ,then his 34 year old brother ,and now his 24 year old niece ,don’t know how rare this is but it must be uncommon . Very sad for the kids ,what an inheritance .

  55. DrBeauGan

    And all that improvement in the rest of the world happened because they stole our good ideas. Like technology and democracy.

    Meanwhile, we’ve copied their corruption and tribalism.

  56. Death Giraffe

    Geldof.
    That’s the other one.
    Personal life a bloody nightmare of death and mayhem, but telling the rest of us how to live.

  57. JC

    You know there is stuff going on in the world that’s good.

    Trump is the prez and like it or lump it, he sets the global agenda to a large extent.

    Who would ever have believed that Italy’s Northern league is in an alliance with the populist 5 star movement and the possible finance minister is a Euro currency sceptic? They also want to deport 500K illegals.
    Austria has an anti -immig young guy in power.

    I know people here on’t think much of Macron but he is doing some of the Lord’s work.

    That’s just a start.

    It’s not all bad , folks.

  58. Stimpson J. Cat

    God Emperor Twitter Flashback

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    What is better advice- “The Art of the Deal” or “Rules for Radicals”? I know which one @BarackObama prefers.
    5:12 AM · Jul 15, 2011

  59. Baldrick

    Unconfirmed –

    Mike Spike @ZubSpike
    BREAKING #TommyRobbinson ASSAULTED BY MUSLIM
    Fears he’d be physically harmed have been confirmed. Tommy was assaulted by a Muslim inmate as pre-warned. He is currently receiving treatment in the Hull Prison hospital.
    HPM Hull Prison
    Hedon Rd, Hull

  60. JC

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    What is better advice- “The Art of the Deal” or “Rules for Radicals”? I know which one @BarackObama prefers.
    5:12 AM · Jul 15, 2011

    Really, like he was trolling him since 2011? He trolled something awful with the birth certificate bullshit too.

  61. Death Giraffe

    Trump has already left a legacy of wisdom and wonder for future civilisations to ponder.

  62. Oh come on

    Some of the railways the Victorians carved out of the sides of mountains and ran across colossal gorges in far-flung parts of the Indian Raj – railways that have been severed for many, many decades due to lack of maintenance – are just insane. The Victorians were supermen.

  63. JC

    Trump has already left a legacy of wisdom and wonder for future civilisations to ponder.

    More than that, he’s left a legacy of Always be trolling the left.

  64. C.L.

    All you can do is laugh at the New York Times.
    On the day Trump secures the release of yet another hostage (whose situation was – as usual – bungled by Obama), they run a fake gotcha arguing a phony unnamed “source” was actually a TRUE SOURCE! LOL-a-palooza, right? Well, no. They still can’t name the “source” – so Trump is right in saying the “source” is fake. Or, at the very least, it’s a he (Trump) said/they (JournoListers and the NYT) said. Polls show Americans don’t believe anything the Press Corps says anymore.

    Upshot: Trump wins again.

  65. Snoopy

    Let’s not forget the NeverTrumps.

  66. C.L.

    Fears he’d be physically harmed have been confirmed. Tommy was assaulted by a Muslim inmate as pre-warned. He is currently receiving treatment in the Hull Prison hospital.

    Let’s not fall into the trap of saying an assault of this kind was merely feared by supporters.
    It was planned by authorities. It was ordered by the magistrate.
    That magistrate deserves to be flogged.

  67. Stimpson J. Cat

    He trolled something awful with the birth certificate bullshit too.

    He is saving it for last.
    He hasn’t forgotten.
    Just imagine if the Kenyan runs to Kenya to escape.
    Twitter will explode.

  68. calli

    The Death Giraffe is thinking Dangerous Thoughts.

    Just as well he lives here and not Leeds.

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    First woman to join infantry regiment since defence chiefs lifted ban on females serving in combat units quits after two weeks admitting she underestimated the 18-week course

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  70. DrBeauGan

    That magistrate deserves to be flogged.

    You’ve gone all soft, CL. He deserves to be hanged.

  71. C.L.

    Nice saving face play by Trump too in setting up an ‘obstacle’ between himself and North Korea.
    That seems to have drawn Kim back to the table with Moon.
    Master class.

  72. JC

    Another incredible policy change.

    Trump Issues Orders Making It Easier to Fire Federal Workers
    President cuts time employees can be retained for performance improvement, cracks down on union activities

    He’s so lovable. Just God really.

  73. Oh come on

    Geldof.
    That’s the other one.
    Personal life a bloody nightmare of death and mayhem, but telling the rest of us how to live.

    Too true, Arks. Michael Hutchence topped himself after taking a phone call from Geldof. Bob must be some conversationalist.

    Rumour has it that GWB fell off the wagon after allowing Geldof to interview him on an Air Force One flight during a visit to Africa. Personally, I would have had the Secret Service stuff Geldof into the plane’s escape pod and then dropped him somewhere over the Congo, or maybe Liberia.

  74. calli

    You’ve gone all soft, CL. He deserves to be hanged.

    He may as well have ordered a hit on Robinson. Put him in the slammer with others he’s put there.

  75. duncanm

    Some more on the Vivid experience..

    Our stroll through The Rocks let me point out the large ‘diversity forklift ‘ parked in the middle of the street for no apparent reason. Middle son is in on the joke, so there’s hope for him.

    I gave one of the security staff a what-for when they were diverting us directly away from where we wanted to go. I don’t always like doing that, as it was just some bloke with a casual job, but I explained to him the stupidity of the situation (he said he’d heard it a lot that night), and made it clear my anger was not directde at him, but the idiots who think they planned this thing. Could he please forward my message on.

  76. Oh come on

    I actually just made up that bit about GWB falling off the wagon as a result of a Bob Geldof interview. I should see if I can get a job at the NYT.

    Although it undeniably falls into that category so beloved of leftist liars – false but believable.

  77. duncanm

    That’s not true. All my Musto sailing gear, the official outdoor wear of Her Majesty and the Duke of Edinburgh, is made in Myanmar.

    Ragu. Musto seem to contract all over the globe. My offshore pants are from Poland.

  78. Nick

    Duncanm, unfortunately, these days, policing is aimed at the obedient and largely law abiding. It’s much easier to bully the masses than it is to fight real criminals.

  79. zyconoclast

    ome of the railways the Victorians carved out of the sides of mountains and ran across colossal gorges in far-flung parts of the Indian Raj – railways that have been severed for many, many decades due to lack of maintenance – are just insane. The Victorians were supermen.

    And the Victoria Falls bridge

    The bridge was the brainchild of Cecil Rhodes, part of his grand and unfulfilled Cape to Cairo railway scheme, even though he never visited the falls and died before construction of the bridge began. Rhodes is recorded as instructing the engineers to “build the bridge across the Zambezi where the trains, as they pass, will catch the spray of the Falls”.[4] It was designed by George Andrew Hobson of consultants Sir Douglas Fox and Partners, assisted by the stress calculations of Ralph Freeman, who was later the principal designer of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. The main central arch is a parabolic curve. [5][6][2][7]

    The bridge was prefabricated in England by the Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Company,[3] before being shipped to the Mozambique port of Beira and then transported on the newly constructed railway to the Victoria Falls. It took just 14 months to construct and was completed in 1905.

    Why didn’t the Wakandans build it?

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    Now Trump Has Farrakhan And Black People On His Side!!!!

    MINISTER FARRAKHAN
    @LouisFarrakhan
    Mr. Trump is destroying every enemy that was an enemy of our rise. Who is the enemy of our rise? Is it the Department of Justice where we get none? Is it Congress where you make a law that favors us and then you turn around and destroy it?

    6.28AM May 26 2018

  81. johanna

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2721273, posted on May 27, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    So the prats grew the praties.

    Ah, Dr. BG. Traps for new players. Words of the same sound can have quite different etymologies.
    Or convoluted links that require a diligent tracing out.
    (pretentious, condescending twaddle. See below)

    Dutch ‘prat’ for ‘speech’ has associations with English ‘prattle’, to ‘go on a bit’.
    Someone who ‘prattles’ is something of a fool.
    A prattling fool is thus a ‘prat’.
    So there seems to be a link in that line.

    Lizzie, as is often the case with your ‘whimsical’ meanderings, you are talking through your hat.

    The Dutch word is ‘praat’, not ‘prat.’ It rhymes with fart, not fat. The verb ‘praten’ derives from the noun, and retains the pronounciation.

    Is has no connection whatsoever with the English expression ‘prat’. Being a prat relates primarily to behaviour and demenour, not speech.

    I know that making stuff up comprises a good portion of the quills in your intelecshural quiver, but don’t be surprised to find yourself pulled up now and again by someone who actually knows the subject. Traps for new players? Diligent tracing out? You just made it up to impress people, as is your wont.

    As for that stupid woman who complained about the letter from the White House, she regards capitalising the word President when referring to the POTUS as an error, to take one example. What tosh. Apart from in the Marxist journals she probably reads, everybody capitalises it. Most of her gotchas are along similar lines. Just another example of TDS.

    Like Lizzie, she has a fascinator where her brain is supposed to be.

  82. H B Bear

    Mogadishu, Minnesota
    A massive daycare fraud in America’s most welcoming state raises questions about the limits of assimilation

    Anyone looking for a common denominator among shitholes should start with trust. Low trust societies can never flourish – even more so when combined with the medieval death cult of Islam that excuses any free will as acts of god.

    Dumping 100,000 of them anywhere in the West is just the willfully destructive thinking of the Alinskyist Left.

  83. Oh come on

    It rhymes with fart, not fat

    Standby…

  84. zyconoclast

    Duncanm, unfortunately, these days, policing is aimed at the obedient and largely law abiding. It’s much easier to bully the masses than it is to fight real criminals.

    Samuel Francis argued that the problems of managerial state extend to issues of crime and justice. In 1992, he introduced the word “anarcho-tyranny” into the paleocon vocabulary.[11] He once defined it this way: “we refuse to control real criminals (that’s the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that’s the tyranny) .”[12] Francis argued that this situation extends across the U.S. and Europe. While the government functions normally, violent crime remains a constant, creating a climate of fear (anarchy). He says that “laws that are supposed to protect ordinary citizens against ordinary criminals” routinely go unenforced, even though the state is “perfectly capable” of doing so. While this problem rages on, government elites concentrate their interests on law-abiding citizens. In fact, Middle America winds up on the receiving end of both anarchy and tyranny.[11]

    Anarcho-Tyranny—Where Multiculturalism Leads

  85. johanna

    Steve trickler, always enjoy your music clips. Thanks especially for the Stevie Ray Vaughan ‘Voodoo Chile’ – hadn’t seen it before. What a talent he was. There isn’t a single track of his I’ve ever heard that I wouldn’t listen to again.

    Regrets, I’ve had a few, and one is having never seen him play.

  86. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t want to offend anybody, but in all honesty I would rather discuss Economics of Mathematics than Ethnic language pronunciation.
    Ethnic languages other than English are useless on the world stage, let’s be honest.

  87. Oh come on

    Stevie Ray Vaughn played lead guitar on Bowie’s Little China Girl. That song drives Zippy insane.

  88. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2721521, posted on May 27, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    I don’t want to offend anybody, but in all honesty I would rather discuss Economics of Mathematics than Ethnic language pronunciation.

    I’m glad you said that, stimpmeister. I’ve been wanting to define the number 2 for OWG for ages now.

  89. johanna

    Habib
    #2721282, posted on May 27, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    I had to collect shipped goods from a bonded warehouse. The lass at reception asked if l owned a Hi-vis vest because l would not be able to enter the warehouse office to hand over the paperwork for the storeman to pick up and deliver the shipped goods to my car. Alas, the lass was able to rent a vest for a small sum of $20. The scams just never end.

    Blame government, you can’t thump a business for making a quid off idiot rules imposed on them by cretinous, micro-managing deadshits in office beholden to criminal trade unions. Most depots won’t let you in without hi-viz, steelcaps, safety glasses and often hardhat as well. wharves and airside even more retarded. All due to government hoovering douchebag unions, and no-one says boo. What a pathetic, craven, compliant and compromised excuse for a nation we are.

    Of course, dealing with real threats to our safety like radical Islamists and criminal unions at our ports and airports and borders are in the ‘too hard’ basket because it means confronting influential groups and doing some hard graft to catch them – not to mention the threat to civil liberties, which apply to everyone except ordinary Aussies going about their business.

  90. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m glad you said that, stimpmeister. I’ve been wanting to define the number 2 for OWG for ages now.

    No no no no no, I meant to say Economics OR Mathematics.

    I choose Economics, for f$cks sake.

    Economics.

    Just don’t.

  91. OldOzzie

    DrBeauGan
    #2721434, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    That’s not a winter, it’s barely an autumn.

    I’ve done northern hemisphere winters in Norway and the well named UK, Zippy.

    And I don’t like them.

    The proper place for snow is on Christmas cards.

    I was in Boston with my Boss negotiating with an American IT Company for a Software Development in early Feb 1978 when the Blizzard of ’78 struck.

    The South African VP of the Company we were dealing with summed snow up for me

    “Snow is Nature’s way of telling Man he is Too Far North”

  92. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2721528, posted on May 27, 2018 at 5:51 pm
    I’m glad you said that, stimpmeister. I’ve been wanting to define the number 2 for OWG for ages now.

    No no no no no, I meant to say Economics OR Mathematics.

    I choose Economics, for f$cks sake.

    Economics.

    Just don’t.

    Your wish is my command, stimpo. How about Keynesian fallacies? 😁

  93. Atoms for Peace

    Good ol’ China. It was only 13 years ago that those stumble bums received their last food donations.
    Tell me again about the inscrutable long game….

  94. zyconoclast

    Bill Shorten says Labor would ‘stop the boats’ as policy debate shut down at state conference

    Federal Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has declared a Labor Government would “stop the boats” and strongly indicated there will be no change in the party’s border protection policy.

    In a sign of how sensitive this issue is, the Victorian Labor state conference today shut down a potentially damaging debate over the party’s policy on offshore processing.

    The motion, drafted by Labor’s left, urged the party to “close the offshore detention centres, transit centres and other camps on Manus and Nauru within the first 90 days” of a Shorten government.

    But shortly before debate was due to begin, two powerful unions, the AWU and CFMEU, teamed up to defer that motion — and all others — prompting cries of “shame” from the audience.

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    Your wish is my command, stimpo. How about Keynesian fallacies? 😁

    OK.
    John Milton Keynes was heterosexual.

    Your turn.

  96. johanna

    Shorten and union allies shut down debate at the Victorian ALP conference about changing broder protection policy, Shorten claiming that ‘we will stop the boats.’

    Anybody believe him?

    Note also that TheirABC now calls anyone who lobs a refugee:

    Newly elected Labor MP Ged Kearney used her first speech in Parliament to call for an end to “indefinite offshore detention” while frontbencher Linda Burney said there should be “time frames” and “limits” to how long refugees can be held.

  97. Geriatric mayfly

    SBS and their Malaysian Dwarf delight in running stories about justice denied. Tommy Robinson will be the lead item, and run for the first seven minutes tonight – surely.

  98. DrBeauGan

    I was in Boston with my Boss negotiating with an American IT Company for a Software Development in early Feb 1978 when the Blizzard of ’78 struck.

    Ah yes. I’d forgotten Boston. Coldest place I’ve ever been, the memory suppresses true horror. Your seffie bloke was right.

  99. Death Giraffe

    define the number 2

    ..
    Precisely 1/5 of the number of digits on a regular human’s hands.

  100. Delta A

    Death Giraffe, fess up: Are you, or have you ever been, or do you ever intend to be Arky.

    No fibs!

  101. DrBeauGan

    John Milton Keynes was heterosexual.

    Your turn.

    But Fred Maynard Keynes wrote:

    There was an old fellow of Kings,
    Who letched over various things,
    But his height of desire
    Was a boy in the choir,
    With a bum like a jelly on springs.

  102. Atoms for Peace

    Must be time for a Harry Nillson song.

  103. 132andBush

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2721500, posted on May 27, 2018 at 5:15 pm
    First woman to join infantry regiment since defence chiefs lifted ban on females serving in combat units quits after two weeks admitting she underestimated the 18-week course

    No one saw that coming!

    Mind you, the two mortar rounds she looks to be carrying on her chest wouldn’t be helping.

  104. 132andBush

    Or are they claymores?

  105. eam

    Delta, I think Arky just confirmed his identity by introducing maths into the discussion

  106. Stimpson J. Cat

    Newly elected Labor MP Ged Kearney used her first speech in Parliament to call for an end to “indefinite offshore detention” while frontbencher Linda Burney said there should be “time frames” and “limits” to how long refugees can be held.

    It’s a f$cking male wizards name you disrespectful f$cking Muppet Jesus Christ.

  107. Death Giraffe

    Offered the choice of either $1000 or $2000, I belive even Stimpson would have no difficulty knowing the difference between one or two.
    Likewise if offered a first prize of one date with Amanda Vanstone or second prize of two dates with Amanda Vanstone
    If you want a formal definition, just figure out what your brain was doing as you took the two grand, or avoided second base on your second date after coming in second place in the date Amanda contest.

  108. egg_

    define the number 2

    The number of hands/arms/legs/feet/eyes… body symmetry.

  109. OldOzzie

    Undercover Huber
    ‏ @JohnWHuber

    EXCLUSIVE: BILL PRIESTAP, the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence, (fmr. boss of PETER STRZOK) visited LONDON 🇬🇧 in the middle of May 2016

    This previously undisclosed visit may have taken place the same week that ALEXANDER DOWNER met with GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS

  110. Baldrick

    Federal Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has declared a Labor Government would “stop the boats” and strongly indicated there will be no change in the party’s border protection policy.

    Newsflash Tits, the boats have already been stopped or turned back and we all remember what Rudd said before the 2007 election,

    “You’d turn them back,” he said of boats approaching Australia, emphasising that Labor believed in an “orderly immigration system” enforced by deterrence. You cannot have anything that is orderly if you allow people who do not have a lawful visa in this country to roam free,” he said. “That’s why you need a detention system. I know that’s politically contentious, but one follows from the other. Deterrence is effective through the detention system but also your preparedness to take appropriate action as the vessels approach Australian waters on the high seas.”

  111. DrBeauGan

    egg_
    #2721551, posted on May 27, 2018 at 6:11 pm
    define the number 2

    The number of hands/arms/legs/feet/eyes… body symmetry.

    Nope. That’s why we invented the number 2.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    Offered the choice of either $1000 or $2000, I belive even Stimpson would have no difficulty knowing the difference between one or two.
    What is this OR?
    I want AND.
    AND is MORE.

    Upstairs for thinking, downstairs for dancing,
    am I right ladies!
    Those shoes won’t buy themselves!

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    define the number 2

    It’s literally sh$t.

    Numbers are sh$t.

  114. Confused Old Misfit

    You winter lovers want to try seven winters in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
    ‘ken A Man! Just crazy! -40*C at noon with a 25K wind on the corner of Portage & Main.
    Man’s an idiot for settling there.
    Rumour has it that most of Saskatchewan is worse.

  115. H B Bear

    Boats is about the only thing that could get the Lieborals over the line. And Peanut Head if he is still around. Someone will need to tell Waffles he needs to get into the gutter and campaign after lunch at the club this time around.

  116. Delta A

    Arky just confirmed his identity by introducing maths into the discussion

    You’re right, of course, eam.

    I just want to hear it from the trouble-maker himself.

  117. DrBeauGan

    It’s literally sh$t.

    Numbers are sh$t.

    The word you want is ‘arky’, stimps.

  118. rickw

    Newly elected Labor MP Ged Kearney used her first speech in Parliament to call for an end to “indefinite offshore detention” while frontbencher Linda Burney said there should be “time frames” and “limits” to how long refugees can be held.

    So she’s advocating shooting then?! Awesome!

    I was on a flight with some repatriated Iranian Goat Fuckers, I would have happily shot the lot of them bar one, as would have the hostesses.

  119. rickw

    Mind you, the two mortar rounds she looks to be carrying on her chest wouldn’t be helping.

    They’re to stop sentry duty from being so boring.

  120. Death Giraffe

    Delta A
    #2721541, posted on May 27, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    ..
    I was going to tell you all.
    Arky died in a road rage incident last week.
    He was trying to seperate two geriatric ladies in the local supermarket carpark after one had backed into the other.
    He was inadvertently hit in the groin with a bag containing tinned cat food and a carton Twinnings tea.
    Infuriated, and in some pain he staggered into the road and was hit by a mobile dog wash van.
    A considerably amount of sudsy water got in his ear.
    Other than that, his injuries were minor, however the hospital decided to euthanise him anyway, just to be on the safe side.

  121. Dr Faustus

    Newsflash Tits, the boats have already been stopped or turned back

    Truth in advertising?
    The poor little bastard could hardly say “Labor will not start the boats again“.
    Because they will.

    Second best: promise to fix the mess they are yet to make…

  122. Delta A

    the hospital decided to euthanise him anyway, just to be on the safe side.

    Good choice. 🙂

  123. rickw

    The bridge was prefabricated in England by the Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Company,[3] before being shipped to the Mozambique port of Beira and then transported on the newly constructed railway to the Victoria Falls. It took just 14 months to construct and was completed in 1905.

    Never underestimate the power of communicating a clear vision of what you want to achieve.

  124. rickw

    … Other than that, his injuries were minor, however the hospital decided to euthanise him anyway, just to be on the safe side.

    Westfield in Airport West at about 13:00hrs on the 24rd of May?! Holy shit, I saw that!

  125. DrBeauGan

    Poor Arky. That carton of Twinings tea must have really hurt.

  126. egg_

    define the number 2

    Old English cardinal declension ends at “3”; interestingly, ordinal “2nd” basically means “other”: self and (an)other could be in a Descartes sense.

  127. calli

    Was Arky holidaying on the Tomaree?

    The story sounds vaguely familiar…

    😀

  128. egg_

    Arky died in a road rage incident last week.

    Bugger!
    No Model A resto stories?

  129. Delta A

    Thanks, Shy Ted. Says it all.

  130. egg_

    Boats is about the only thing that could get the Lieborals over the line. And Peanut Head if he is still around. Someone will need to tell Waffles he needs to get into the gutter and campaign after lunch at the club this time around.

    Hunt told The Scrote this morning on Insiders that Albo was supporting open borders.

  131. DrBeauGan

    Russell defined a number as the class of all sets which could be put into one-one correspondence with a given set. Thus the number 2 would be the collection of all sets which could be put in one-one correspondence with the set of Arky’s ears. Before his accident.

    Sorry stimpy. I couldn’t help myself.

  132. rickw

    Never forget that next time you’re talking to a leftie. If they talk about guns remind them the Kenyan was the gun president.

    Gun sales were so distorted upwards that Remington Outdoor filed for Chapter 11 when the Democrats lost. Their business model simply couldn’t support a non anti-gun White House.

  133. Snoopy

    Undercover Huber
    @JohnWHuber
    ·
    May 25
    More reasons why this London visit may be significant. PRIESTAP has been speculated to be a co-operating witness for @JusticeOIG HOROWITZ. A statement from PRIESTAP appears in the @DevinNunes memo, but as he hasn’t testified to the @HouseIntelComm, that must come from the IG

    Oh noes, Monty! The assistant director of the FBI Counterintelligence Division has been turned by Horowitz. That explains why he hasn’t resigned or been fired. They’re all trying to keep their arses out of jail. At the very least Obama personally approved Crossfire Hurricane.

    Tick, tock.

  134. rickw

    No Model A resto stories?

    The left hand mud guard wouldn’t fit properly so I beat the shit out of it with a ball pein hammer until it really wouldn’t fit properly….

  135. Baldrick

    Shy Ted
    #2721579, posted on May 27, 2018 at 6:38 pm
    Ireland yesterday and today.
    https://imgflip.com/i/2b2of1

    That’s a beauty Ted.

  136. OldOzzie

    From Instapundit.com

    WHY THE HECK do so many Koalas have chlamydia?

    I dunno, but Bill Clinton visited Australia in 1996.

  137. rickw

    A young Lee Lin Chin

    WTF happened?!

  138. Shy Ted

    Please forward to any leftie mates you have

    https://imgflip.com/i/2b2gjs

  139. Snoopy

    Another Rhodesian bridge. Does it look familiar? Guess who designed it?

  140. Armadillo

    If I ever decided to get myself a sock, “Death Giraffe” as a handle would be my last choice.

    Probably Arky, but quite likely to be Tail Gunner.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    the hospital decided to euthanise him anyway, just to be on the safe side.

    That is not dead which can eternal lie
    And with strange aeons even death may die

  142. rickw

    It was planned by authorities. It was ordered by the magistrate.
    That magistrate deserves to be flogged.

    Fear not, in the long run they will be hanged with whatever is at hand.

  143. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2721597, posted on May 27, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    the hospital decided to euthanise him anyway, just to be on the safe side.

    That is not dead which can eternal lie
    And with strange aeons even death may die

    Stimpy! You’re a Lovecraft fan!

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The New Grand Mufti of Australia has just been announced …

    Will this Grand Mufti require a translator?

  145. Roger

    First woman to join infantry regiment since defence chiefs lifted ban on females serving in combat units quits after two weeks admitting she underestimated the 18-week course. Her resignation is a huge blow to officials who are determined to integrate women

    But the idiots will press on, regardless, compromising combat effectiveness.

  146. Eyrie

    “Some of the railways the Victorians carved out of the sides of mountains and ran across colossal gorges in far-flung parts of the Indian Raj – railways that have been severed for many, many decades due to lack of maintenance – are just insane. The Victorians were supermen.”

    Truly Kipling’s, “Sons of Martha”

  147. DrBeauGan

    Zyconoclast
    #2721594, posted on May 27, 2018 at 6:56 pm
    The New Grand Mufti of Australia has just been announced …

    https://onepathnetwork.com/the-new-grand-mufti-of-australia-has-just-been-announced/

    What a relief. How could we possibly manage without one?

  148. dopey

    2 is a birdie on a par three.

  149. Zyconoclast

    The south Irish abortionists plan to invade Northern Island.

    Q: will the British army repell them?
    A: No.

  150. duncanm

    I’ve never really liked Stevie Ray.. with one exception — his emotional rendition of little wing.

  151. Roger

    Will this Grand Mufti require a translator?

    No, he speaks English and sees it as important to do so. He has also promised to combat the radicalisation of Muslim youth.

    We should be thankful for such small mercies, I suppose.

    More offensive was the presence of Archdeacon Rod Bower – a.k.a Rev’d McTiltyhead – at the celebratory Iftar dinner.

  152. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy! You’re a Lovecraft fan!

    I wouldn’t go that far.
    Actually Howard simply scribbled some fascinating forgotten factual histories that intrigued me is all.

    😁

  153. OneWorldGovernment

    Death Giraffe
    #2721411, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:00 pm

    What are people actually doing for jobs now?

    Death Giraffe

    Basically they are working for the Government or dependent on the Government and anyone that works for the Government does not earn Income nor are they entitled to pay Income Tax nor have Income Tax deductions on that portion of Real Income Tax Payers money that they receive.

  154. Death Giraffe

    As you can see from the attached gravatar photo, Arky was useless at repairing Model A guards, and should never have been left alone with a tig welder.
    Trust me, that car is better off in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing and rants and raves less while doing it.

  155. Tintarella di Luna

    Geldof.
    That’s the other one.
    Personal life a bloody nightmare of death and mayhem, but telling the rest of us how to live.

    I’ll just put Dr BeauGan’s tercet here:

    It’s seldom the best,
    Who tell all the rest,
    Exactly what to do.

  156. old bloke

    cohenite
    #2721267, posted on May 27, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    Tommy Robinson is being ramroaded. Outsiders apparently will not discuss his case. And the police gave Tommy’s solicitor the runaround.

    Cohenite, that link doesn’t work. What is the link to the Police / Solicitor story? (thanks).

  157. John Constantine

    People in the old days chose which data to feed into artificial intelligence, but it was slow and flawed, which is why we are realising that we have to dump all the data, the dirtiest, most complete and utterly unfiltered data streams we can get straight into Skynet.

    Machine Learning data crunching and feeding artificial intelligence is the path to the singularity, be it for good, or be it to ill.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2016/12/06/what-is-the-difference-between-artificial-intelligence-and-machine-learning/#30bb40072742

  158. Geriatric mayfly

    What a relief. How could we possibly manage without one?

    Exactly. As no authority figure or body has any control over doctrine, the position has little import. There’s a picture at the link above, of the Holy Imams gathered for the election no less. They could all contradict one another at Friday prayers (bit of a task I know) and no one will put them back on the straight and narrow.

  159. Rae

    the Tomaree?

    No-one actually calls it that, do they?

  160. John Constantine

    The dirtiest and most unfiltered data is the most valuable when doing huge data dumps for predicting human outcomes.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2016/12/08/what-is-the-difference-between-deep-learning-machine-learning-and-ai/#68adaa4e26cf

    Stratfor has a theory that China, because of zero right to privacy when the government wants your data, will have an unbeatable edge as its machines can learn the truth, while the west will have gaps where certain demographics keep their truthdata hidden.

  161. Rae

    2 is a birdie on a par three.

    I have had a half of a 2 on a par 3.

  162. Geriatric mayfly

    Geldof. That’s the other one. Personal life a bloody nightmare of death and mayhem, but telling the rest of us how to live.

    Poor Peaches was doomed. Bob’s paternal counsel and example had a bad ending for her.

  163. Roger

    Newly elected Labor MP Ged Kearney used her first speech in Parliament to call for an end to “indefinite offshore detention”

    I don’t suppose she’s calling for forced repatriation?

  164. Zyconoclast

    Waiting till after the next federal election….

    A proposed motion to move Australia Day to May 9 – the date of the first Commonwealth parliament – was also quietly dropped before the second day of the state conference at Melbourne’s Moonee Valley Racecourse on Sunday.

    The motion, which argued “the date of 26 January 1788 is offensive to indigenous people”, does not have the support of Premier Daniel Andrews or federal opposition leader Bill Shorten.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/vic-alp-conference-scraps-refugee-debate

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    Geldof.
    That’s the other one.

    Can I just state categorically and for the record,
    that this f$cking smarmy hippy does not speak for myself, or any of my Mentally Ill brethren, and the vast majority of us quite like Monday’s.

  166. Cpt Seahawks

    I’m watching SKYUK news, and was surprised to hear that “one group of people who tend to have short sentences are, women”.

    Then I realise they were talking about something else, jail.

  167. egg_

    Grigs is the expert on number twos.

  168. Cpt Seahawks

    This gets better. The female SKY reporter says that is biased against the wymmns as they don’t have the rehabilitation opportunities.

  169. Roger

    The motion, which argued “the date of 26 January 1788 is offensive to indigenous people”, does not have the support of Premier Daniel Andrews or federal opposition leader Bill Shorten.

    Translation: The focus groups do not yet support a change.

  170. rickw

    Will this Grand Mufti require a translator?

    Each grand mufti should be unceremoniously shot until they get the message.

  171. Arky:

    Arky died in a road rage incident last week.

    You rotten lying shit. We were so worried…

  172. rickw

    What are people actually doing for jobs now?

    For the last 10 years I have been waved off to work by everyone else on the street….

  173. pete m

    More info on Robinson matter:

    Robinson has been arrested before for reporting on similar trials in the past and because he was on a 13-month remanded sentence when he was arrested on Friday, he was put directly in prison, where he is at risk of being attacked by Muslim inmates.

    via insty

  174. Stimpson J. Cat

    As you can see from the attached gravatar photo, Arky was useless at repairing Model A guards, and should never have been left alone with a tig welder.

    Thank f$ck.
    I actually thought that was a dead dolphin on your bricks and I was too scared to click on it.

  175. pete m

    TWO:

    A number that self identifies as more than one, but less than three.

  176. Gab

    Arky died in a road rage incident last week.

    And re reborn as a giraffe.

    Told youse all God has a sense of humour!

  177. Death Giraffe

    I think they are on to me.
    Time for a quick change…

  178. calli

    And re reborn as a giraffe.

    Which morphed into a vintage car mudguard.

    A self-aware one.

    Be afraid, peoples.

  179. calli

    Wipe that look off your face immediately! Gave me quite a turn.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/vic-alp-conference-scraps-refugee-debate

    Also quietly moved behind closed doors was a motion to ban all export of live animals, not just sheep….don’t the morons remember the damage they did when they banned the live cattle trade, in 2011? Oh, that’s right farmers don’t vote Labor.

  181. stackja

    Community in crisis: The fight to protect indigenous children from abuse and neglect
    Paul Toohey, News Corp Australia Network
    May 26, 2018 10:00pm
    Subscriber only

    ON the south side of Alice Springs, a Thursday afternoon, five adults are gathered around a sedan at the entrance to the showgrounds. A man king-hits a woman and she goes down, hard. She is helped up, then carefully lined up and smashed again, in the face. She’s so drunk she has no hope of defending the punch. She goes down again.

    Sitting on the window ledge of the car, watching, is a child. This is what she thinks is normal: incoherent adults enacting the brutal afternoon rituals of total alcohol dysfunction, as desensitised locals drive by with barely a glance.

    Alice Springs is at Australia’s spiritual heart: the creation point in our landscape, where raw earth blends seamlessly with the cosmic, and even diehard atheists confess to sacred encounters with the almighty red rock. Now that heart is broken.

    There’s deep trauma here. Some Aborigines blame white settlement and loss of culture; others see income support as the driver of destruction, because it buys alcohol and obliterates self-reliance.

  182. stackja

    The tragedy for the child is that she has already been traumatised, by her parents, for whom acts of ultra-violence carry no shame and rarely result in repercussions, other than visits to the ICU.

    She has no opportunity to start life clean but is at the vanguard of another broken generation, same as the last. She doesn’t know it, but she is already caught up in a hopeless hunt for answers in which blame will always displace solutions.

    Tired and self-interested politicians; overworked and numb cops; distraught and confused welfare workers; cries for more money from all directions. The spotlight never tracks on the parents causing the harm, because of a shielding instinct that says they have been injured by history.

    The middle of Australia, from Tennant Creek down to Alice, is at the statistical epicentre of Australian child neglect and abuse. Each attempt to intervene becomes a forced retreat about saving culture, rather than saving kids.

  183. Ragu

    As you can see from the attached gravatar photo, Arky was useless at repairing Model A guards, and should never have been left alone with a tig welder.

    Oh dear, s’tarky. Did you have the polarity set right?

    Too much heat and you have to back step the weld. Don’t forget to tack tack tack the seam beforehand, then little goes at it if you’re using a TiG.

  184. Roger

    Todesgiraffen

    Todesgiraffe.

    Giraffen is plural.

  185. cohenite

    Roger

    #2721609, posted on May 27, 2018 at 7:06 pm

    Will this Grand Mufti require a translator?

    No, he speaks English and sees it as important to do so. He has also promised to combat the radicalisation of Muslim youth.

    We should be thankful for such small mercies, I suppose.

    More offensive was the presence of Archdeacon Rod Bower – a.k.a Rev’d McTiltyhead – at the celebratory Iftar dinner.

    He’ll need a cultural translator. Seriously though, Taqiyya, Kitman, Tawriya and my favourite Muruna or the art of blending in by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.

    The new mufti’s qualifications are listed as:

    The Victorian-based Sheikh Al-Afifi served as the president of the Australian National Imams Council (ANIC) for two terms from 2010-2015. Born in Egypt, he graduated with a degree in Islamic studies. Al-Afifi also holds a masters degree in Quranic recitations. Sheikh Abdel Aziem arrived in Australia in the year 2000 where he served numerous Islamic Societies and schools.

    The previous Mufti Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohamad was known for his unprecedented service to the Muslim community, and The Australian National Imams Council asked that all parties of the Muslim community cooperate with the new Mufti and wished him success in serving Islam.

    Also of interest they made a statement, code for fatwa, about Mr. Mohammed Tawhidi who has been speaking truth about islam.

  186. Confused Old Misfit

    here are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don’t

  187. johanna

    DrBeauGan
    #2721445, posted on May 27, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    You should have called the Hotline, Doc. Instead of trying to commit suicide by going to Norway in the winter it would have been more effective to just call the Hotline.

    My favourite winter experience was eating haggis filling in an Edinburgh Spudulike. Talk about suffering in the cause of new experience.

    Winter in Norway is not to be trifled with.

    A Norwegian friend’s mother told me about the coldest winter they had there. As is practice, they closed off a lot of the house and dwelled in a few heated rooms. One of the rooms they closed off was the formal dining room (they were well to do folks.) It had windows facing south. It included a sideboard where they stored and displayed their heritage china and glass.

    It got so cold, inside the house, that several bits of their china and glass shattered.

    My theory is that the advent of central heating turned the Vikings into wimps.

  188. Roger

    Also of interest they made a statement, code for fatwa, about Mr. Mohammed Tawhidi who has been speaking truth about islam.

    Interesting.

  189. Arky;

    Arky died in a road rage incident last week.

    When he was run over by the dog wash truck then near drowned in suds n stuff, did his hair, when blow dried at the hospital, come back with appropriate bounce?

  190. Roger

    My theory is that the advent of central heating turned the Vikings into wimps.

    Once were Vikings.

  191. Todesgiraffen

    Todesgiraffe.

    Giraffen is plural.

    ..
    Too late now.
    Takes days for Davidson to take your new name out of moderation.
    Or maybe that is just with me.

  192. Oh come on

    I think I prefer the Austin Powers joke spoken by the Michael Caine character. It went something like ‘there are two types of people in the world I cannot stand. The first are those who judge people based on their nationality. The second are the Dutch.’

  193. Geriatric mayfly

    It is noted that condoms are to be issued at a forthcoming Scouts’ Jamboree. I assume it is all part of the motto : “Be Prepared.”
    Which leads me to wonder if it’s still, “A Bob A Job” or whether inflation has elevated worthy pursuits to a higher level.

    Asking for Lord Baden Powell.

  194. Pedro the Ignorant

    I am in Iron Knob, SA, for work.

    This place is almost a ghost town, yet has some of the best quality iron ore in the world.

    What the hell happened?

    I know it is South Australia, the mainland mendicants, but really, what drove this dump into poverty and penury?

  195. stackja

    LIFE IN HARM’S WAY
    CALABRIA Family Wines, makers of 2017 Richland chardonnay, recommend it be served with grilled polenta and wild mushrooms. In Alice, where it sells in plastic weapon-proof bottles for $8, it’s served with brain-jarring punches and stomps to the head.

    When adults hurt each other, children are hurt. The crisis in Central Australia is decades old, going back to the 1950s when the painter Albert Namatjira was prosecuted for buying alcohol for family and friends in the Morris Soak town camp, which led to the murder of a woman by her husband.

    It’s been happening ever since. A month ago, a 62-year-old woman was allegedly stabbed to death by her husband at Charles Creek town camp, just near Morris Soak.

    The town camps were once stopover places for out-of-towners that became squalid permanent homes; nowadays, they are crowded as people from remote areas stay longer, seeking services and alcohol — and also because life in the bush communities can be bleak, with few luxuries.

    Though liquor is banned in the camps and all public places, the rules are in constant, visible breach.

  196. Ragu

    Using a TiG, on your first effort, you should probably dial the machine to 40 amp until you can work out what what your handspeed is, but depends on the integrity of the metal. So, slow and cold but always back step on sheet.

  197. Roger

    Too late now. Takes days for Davidson to take your new name out of moderation.

    Who am I to quibble if you identify as plural?

    And also feminine, btw.

    The new, improved arky?

    😉

  198. stackja

    John Boffa, a veteran Central Australian doctor who drives the People’s Alcohol Action Coalition, wants a total lockdown, with police stationed full-time at takeaway outlets refusing alcohol sales to all but those who can provide proof of a permanent local residential address.

    He’s got stats to prove when takeaway sales are totally controlled, violence drops accordingly. But point-of-sale prohibition doesn’t address Central Australia’s estimated 4000 problem drinkers, who are chronically dependent and remain free to drink in the town’s bars.

    Boffa is extremely reluctant to criticise the Aboriginal constituency, but some statistics cannot be avoided. “The Territory has the highest rate of substantiated child neglect in Australia, and the lowest rate of children in out-of-home care,” he says.

    What this means is that children who live in at-risk situations often remain there, without help. Such was the case in Tennant Creek, where Territory Families, the welfare department, received 21 notifications over two years about disruptive behaviour at a notorious address on the town’s eastside.

    It was decided there was no basis for intervention because — as reporters were told at the time — the notifications did not directly relate to the small children in the house.

  199. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Grigs is the expert on number twos.

    and marathon sessions of Cock Hero, he is pushing out to 1 minute 36

  200. stackja

    Then, in February, it is alleged a two-year-old girl was [email protected] at the house by a 24-year-old relative.

    She would be left with gonorrhoea and require a blood transfusion due to injuries to her genital area.

    It was subsequently learned there had been numerous notifications related the girl’s siblings, and the behaviour of her parents, stretching back years. The department’s inaction appears to imply a view that indigenous children have a higher threshold for living with sustained violence than non-indigenous children.

    Underpinning such attitudes is the overarching welfare policy, mirrored in all states, which holds that if an indigenous child must be removed, the child should be placed (in descending order) with family and kin; with Aboriginal carers in the community; with carers in another Aboriginal community; and with non-indigenous carers as a last resort.

    The ultimate aim is to reunify the child with its family. NT Children’s Commissioner, Colleen Gwynne, says it’s nice in theory, but there’s a shortage of indigenous carers who can satisfy requirements of providing a safe environment.

  201. Todesgiraffen

    And also feminine, btw.

    ..
    What?
    Are all german giraffes girls or is there another word for men giraffes?

  202. Roger

    I know it is South Australia, the mainland mendicants, but really, what drove this dump into poverty and penury?

    16 years of Labor governments, for starters.

  203. DrBeauGan

    What this means is that children who live in at-risk situations often remain there, without help. Such was the case in Tennant Creek, where Territory Families, the welfare department, received 21 notifications over two years about disruptive behaviour at a notorious address on the town’s eastside.

    It was decided there was no basis for intervention because — as reporters were told at the time — the notifications did not directly relate to the small children in the house.

    This is what happens when bureaucrats take charge.

  204. Kim H

    Japan is poised to FLOOD the Pacific with one million tons of radioactive water contaminated by the Fukushima nuclear plant .

    Didn’t take you for a greens activist / alarmist Zyco

    One just one Olympic size swimming pool contains 2.5 million tons of water , the radiation and tritium are less than reactor levels and more or less back to standard radiation levels of the uranium sands found in Australians back yard , the volume of the Earths oceans is 1,335,000,000 kilometres cubed I`m sure the pond can handle half a swimming pool of radiation considering how much natural radiation it receives from the sun daily on 361,900, 000 kilometres squared in area .

    Mean while Tommy Robinson is jailed for 13 months for reporting on paedophiles and the British Government shuts it up , If anyone knows where the petition is to get him out please show .

  205. stackja

    “Child safety is paramount, so if you’re not satisfied the child will be safe or thrive, you have to find the next best option,” she says.

    Simplistic media-generated propositions, such as wholesale adopting neglected Aboriginal kids to white families, have no genuine support — anywhere. “I don’t believe there’s this push to have a whole heap of Aboriginal kids with white families, that’s rubbish,” says Gwynne.

    In reality, most Aboriginal children who have been identified as neglected or abused are in white homes, anyway. For the more than 1000 kids in foster care in the Territory — 89 per cent of whom are indigenous — two-thirds are with white carers.

    Yet Gwynne says Territory Families feels compelled to fast-track the reunification of the children in foster care with kin. “We have cases where a child has been fostered for six years and all of a sudden a decision is made: let’s reunify them back with family in a community, just like that,” says Gwynne.

    “We’ve got to go back to the child. If a child is with foster carers, and the assessment is made that the child is thriving, the child is happy and loved, why would you change it? If the biological parents say we want the child returned, they should need to demonstrate that they absolutely have the capacity.”

  206. DrBeauGan

    Todesgiraffen
    #2721665, posted on May 27, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    And also feminine, btw.

    ..
    What?
    Are all german giraffes girls or is there another word for men giraffes?

    A lot of giraffes are gay, Arky. Just saying.

  207. Death Giraffe

    Screw gay german giraffes.
    I’m sticking with good old english gay giraffes.

  208. Nick

    More offensive was the presence of Archdeacon Rod Bower – a.k.a Rev’d McTiltyhead – at the celebratory Iftar dinner.

    Ugh. A plate of quisling to table four.

  209. stackja

    CHAOS, NOT CULTURE
    White couple Leigh Swift and Yvonne Mudford started caring for a little girl named Mikala when they lived in Tennant Creek. The girl’s Aboriginal parents were drinking and fighting, and leaving Mikala unattended, unfed, unclean and wandering.

    Before she was one, Mikala was declared a “child in danger”. Her father had 48 convictions and her mother a heavy drinker who at one point stabbed her husband. Mudford and Swift looked at adoption as a way to protect Mikala.

    But Swift, then the local fire chief, was legally too old to adopt. They persisted in caring for Mikala in an informal way.

    Several years ago, they told the parents they planned to move to southwest WA. The parents demanded Mikala back, but Swift and Mudford were not willing to throw the child back into a damaging environment.

    “They said they were taking us to court,” says Mudford. “I went to a solicitor in Alice Springs and it started from there. They said it would it be tough and expensive. But there was a whole history, not just of Mikala, but two older siblings that had been in foster care.”

  210. Dr BeauGan;
    He’s right Arky. A lot of Giraffes are gay – Check out this video – two blokegiraffes are fighting out to see who has to bite the pillow.


  211. stackja

    Mikala’s parents failed to show up to court. In 2015 the Federal Circuit Court made the highly unusual decision to grant Swift and Mudford sole custody of Mikala. More unusually, Justice Michael Baumann’s orders made no mention of Mikala’s “culture”. It might be guessed he took the view that the only culture she had known was violence.

    The judge laid out tough conditions — on the biological parents. They can see Mikala once a year during school holidays, and only during the day. The father cannot visit the child unless in the company of a responsible adult and neither parent can be under the influence of alcohol.

    Even so, Swift and Mudford pay for the mother to make regular visits. They even took Mikala to visit her father in prison.

    Mikala is now aged nine. She currently lives in Alice Springs. She says she loves school and reading adventure stories. Asked if she is happy, she gives a pause and a such a direct look that you know you’re going to get the truth: “Sometimes, I feel alone,” Mikala says.

    To his credit, Swift makes no attempt to edit Mikala or explain what she says. She misses the family she loves, but says she is frightened of them when they drink.

    What Mikala tells us is powerful: that out-of-home care is not easy for anyone. It can involve great reward but is, by definition, borne of sadness. “Nothing about this is simple,” says Swift.

  212. Oh come on

    They’re crossing swords, Winston?

  213. stackja

    THE POVERTY DELUSION
    Just after 8pm, a Tuesday night. A white ute driven by a white man pulls in by the Hungry Jack’s, located close by the Charles Creek town camp, associated with hard drinking and homicide.

    A young woman, possibly mid-to-late-teens, emerges from low bushes. She approaches the driver, handbag on her shoulder, has a short discussion, then gets in the passenger seat and they drive away.

    It has often been claimed without evidence prostitution is coming out of the town camps. Now we have footage. But what does it tell us? No culture is immune from prostitution. Slums are slums, wherever they are, and they always provide victims to the sex trade.

    Jacinta Price, a Central Australian woman who identifies as Warlpiri-Celtic, says it does matter.

    At the next federal election, Price will take on Labor’s Warren Snowdon. Snowdon is Australia’s longest-serving MP — a 28-year career politician who presides over the nation’s most troubled electorate, Lingiari, but says nothing on child abuse or parental neglect because, one suspects, he does not wish to upset his crucial indigenous vote base.

    “There’s Manila, but we’re not a third-world country,” says Price. “Given the rates of sexual abuse and the violence that exists, and the fact these kids are neglected and don’t have safe homes, it’s too easy to turn a blind eye to it.

  214. DrBeauGan

    For some light relief, rowan Atkinson interviews john elton:

    https://youtu.be/Nl0HqlbX7dc

  215. stackja

    “I know there’s young girls out there as young as 13, prostituting themselves. The truth is blackfellas know about it but aren’t talking about it. It’s happening and these are Australian children.”

    In Alice and Tennant, you’ll hear that Aborigines in live in “abject poverty”. But this is not Manila, the black townships of South Africa or even rust-belt USA.

    There’s income support and child money. The free health system is world-class and education is available to all, without cost. Everyone can eat, if they choose. There’s also work, but that requires motivation.

    In Alice Springs, there are hundreds of Africans employed in security, shops and government departments. They’re working remote to build credits for their citizenship applications. Good for them, but why aren’t locals doing these jobs?

    A Warlpiri man approaches outside Coles for a friendly chat. He’s waiting for his wife, who’s shopping for a trip to Lajamanu, 900kms northwest of Alice, for a royalty payment meeting from the Granites gold mine. He expects she’ll be paid $50,000, tax-free, directly into her bank account.

    He says this is “the small one”. She’ll receive a bigger payment later in the year.

  216. stackja

    NO WORD FOR [email protected]
    Talking to youth workers around Alice, who spend time with children who roam the town, they say they would never ask them about sex abuse and, even after trust is built, never hear children volunteering stories.

    Like many cultures, parents don’t discuss it; abusers are likely family; talking to authority figures is difficult; there may be different understandings of right and wrong; and kids may have poor English.

    In the Warlpiri language, there is not even a word for “[email protected]” — they use “kanyi”, which means take.

    The youth workers claim most of the kids have FASDs — or foetal alcohol spectrum disorders, caused by mothers drinking during pregnancy, and which can affect learning and may produce physical symptoms.

    The children have not been diagnosed: the workers are guessing. They may be right, but this in itself is a problem.

    When every child is assumed to have embedded developmental issues, other real-time causes which are just as likely to hinder learning and attentiveness — lack of sleep, poor nutrition and hygiene, the shame of being dressed in dirty clothes, and repeatedly witnessing violence — take a back seat.

  217. stackja

    “We have to work with those kids, but from a public health perspective it’s more important to work on the chain of events leading up to it,” says the NT’s former children’s commissioner, Howard Bath.

    He points to studies by Harvard’s Martin Teicher, who for 30 years has laid out a clinical case that children exposed to neglect, abuse and violence, such as the girl watching the adults fight outside the showgrounds, suffer brain impairment.

    Teicher has written that such experiences “can leave an indelible imprint on [the brain’s] structure and function. Such abuse, it seems, induces a cascade of molecular and neurobiological effects that irreversibly alter neural development”.

    Teicher says childhood maltreatment “is the most important preventable cause of psychopathology” yet accounts for 45 per cent of child-onset psychiatric disorders.

    Says Colleen Gwynne: “So many children have violence around them and the damage caused is significant. They can’t develop because they’re under heightened alert from six months old. They stop developing and thriving.”

    The money, the concern, the care is already there. There is a solution: that parents start being parents.

  218. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “I know there’s young girls out there as young as 13, prostituting themselves. The truth is blackfellas know about it but aren’t talking about it. It’s happening and these are Australian children.”

    Test Pattern should be along to tell us how a “truth and reconciliation commission” will solve everything.

  219. W Hogg

    Newly elected Labor MP Ged Kearney used her first speech in Parliament to call for an end to “indefinite offshore detention” while frontbencher Linda Burney said there should be “time frames” and “limits” to how long refugees can be held.

    Good. After 90 days they can fuck off then.

  220. stackja

    AFTERWORD
    IN response to the recent killing of the woman at Charles Creek, Central Australian Aboriginal Congress — Central Australia’s largest indigenous health provider, and a political advocacy group — demanded the resignation of the NT Police Commissioner Reece Kershaw for not having cops permanently stationed at bottle shops.

    Congress CEO, Donna Ah Chee, said Kershaw had “abdicated his responsibility to protect law and order and promote public safety, especially for our community.”

    But what about responsibility from within the community? Ah Chee said nothing about Aboriginal men creating so much violence.

    Myself, and another journalist, have heard off-the-record statements from senior people working in indigenous organisations that some of the recent sex attacks on children are “not that bad”.

    They’re wrong — the attacks are bad. This defensiveness seems to be about protecting reputations, and diverting attention from their failures as frontline agencies in order not to draw political fire. Yet all they are doing is further marginalising kids.

  221. Stackja;
    Jeez that bloke is game – in many different usages of the word.
    Either that or it’s just more made up bullshit to present the aboriginal girl as another victim of white male brutality – Abotaqquiya
    (Can we add that word to our neologisms list?)

  222. stackja

    Mark 42 minutes ago
    The truth finally comes out after all these years, as children we were taught in school about the “Stolen Generation “ fact is they weren’t stolen theses kids were removed from family to protect them from physical and sexual assault!!! But those in the know would have us believe otherwise.

    The children that were taken are most definitely victims, victim’s of their own families and community.

    Finally the truth has arrived but I bet some will still defend these atrocities

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    Raymond 2 44 minutes ago
    Those that can help are way too busy attending Invasion Day, Commonwealth Games disruptions and the stolen generation Part 2, in being able to take ones head out of the taxpayer trough and see what is really going on.

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    Jon Snow 52 minutes ago
    I remember hearing my Grandfather call the local mob a miserable bunch and thinking he was being narrow-minded.

    After watching so many Aborigines continue to screw themselves up in the fifty years since, I understand my Grandfather’s perceptions a lot better. Ducks. Walking like.

    If people do not want to repair themselves, can they be repaired? Invasion seems to be a reason for many to wallow and not do the things needed to fix this ongoing waste.

    I am absolutely over it.

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    Kesis 1 hour ago
    Until the indigenous community admits there is a problem more kids will suffer. They care more about apologies and money then the kids . The is what ch7 was talking about and they were torn to streads for !? Eveytime we try to help were called racists!! We need to hold the indigenous leaders to account for this sad stay of affairs is the responsibility . I will put in simply terms put the kids first no negotiation on this as too many kids have suffered and they deserve a lot better and I meant a lot better then what we are all giving them . The extreme left and di Natalie have to be held to account for there attitude which is also a factor.

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    Dan2 1 hour ago
    30 billion a year is spent by the taxpayer on indigenous people who still want to blame white people for all their problems. It’s forced charity we all pay with zero return on investment. That is the travesty.

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    Peter William 2 hours ago
    We have to abandon token positions that are designed to shield the minister from their resonsibilities like the child commissioner and the aboriginal human rights commissioner the vast cost of these positions should be used to hire tough inspectors.

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    Edward 2 hours ago
    Its a horrifying fact that nothing will be done about the violence and drinking problem for the Aboriginals of Alice Springs. Whatever the non indigenous person comes up with as a solution will be condemned.

    The only solution that may work is for the aboriginal elders and community to work out their solution. Throwing bundles of money at the problem certainly isn’t helping

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    Rick 2 hours ago
    One of the biggest problems is that there will be a core of noisy people who for some unfathomable reason politicians listen to that will decry this expose as a hatchet job. The more we don’t talk about it the worse it will get. In my humble and completely ignorant opinion I think that indigenous people and their activist supporters have two stark choices.

    1. Keep doing what they’re doing and in another 200 years nothing will have changed or

    2. Salvage what they can of their culture and integrate it into the multicultural melting pot that is Australia.

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    DmStan 2 hours ago
    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders make up about 3% of our population but make up 27% of the prison population, costing the nation almost $4billion per year. Why has it been allowed to continue? And why haven’t we been allowed to have a conversation or express concern without being labelled racist?

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    Andrew 2 hours ago
    We could take the children out of this situation and move them to another state where they can get education and actually have a chance at a better life. The minute someone tries that they will be branded as racist, trying to destroy their culture and numerous other labels. What about the children?

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    Peter William 2 hours ago
    @Andrew The fictional stolen generation should bow their heads in shame.

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    Ian 2 hours ago
    @Andrew Can’t happen until the first ‘stolen generation’ myth is officially and firmly debunked.

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    Tracey 2 hours ago
    “We have to work with these kids but .,, it’s more important to work on the chain of events leading up to it”. Umm no its not. Remove the kids, work with them and leave the adults to destroy themselves. Time and again these communities have shunned attempts to help them. Health workers will tell you that medical services are ignored and treatments aren’t followed, even by those not affected by violence and alcohol – yet ‘white australia’ is to blame for the gap between Caucasian and indigenous life expectancies. Give these kids a chance at life.

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    DmStan 2 hours ago
    A good example of that is the prevalence of vision problems in Indigenous people is a result of cataracts, diabetic eye disease and a disease non-Indigenous children don’t get – trachoma. It disappeared from mainstream Australia more than 100 years ago thanks to hygiene and living conditions. In some areas, 4% of 5-9yo Indigenous children have an active trachoma infection. In the NT, it’s 5% (endemic level).

    It’s easily spread, but preventable via simple personal hygiene practices. I find it hard to comprehend a mentality that would rather risk going blind, than wash. Especially as one episode does not cause blindness. 160-180 infections are required for that.

    Australia is the only high-income country to still have trachoma.

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    DmStan 3 hours ago
    And there’s the other stat we need to address. In very remote areas Indigenous people are 30 times more likely to have gonorrhoea.

    In the 4 yrs to 2016, syphilis rates tripled among A&TSI people. 1 in 5 Indigenous cases were people aged 15-19. Underage Indigenous girls in the NT were almost 60 times more likely to have a notified case of syphilis in the 10 years to 2016. Now consider the likely number of un-notified cases.

    And all of this costs the country a fortune. It has to stop.

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    Merry 3 hours ago
    It’s the poor children I feel for.

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    AdvocatusDiaboli 3 hours ago
    Pity there is no control over who has kids. Need the Chinese approach.

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    Matt 3 hours ago
    Leave it to all of Andrew Bolt’s critics. They know everything.

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    Brendan 1 hour ago
    @MattThat all you have to offer?

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    Doug 3 hours ago
    It’s Captain CookS’ fault

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    Doug 3 hours ago
    @Timothy, fat chance!

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    Michael 3 hours ago
    In the end the child’s safety has to take precedence over preserving culture.If there are insufficient numbers of stable indigenous persons or homes to care for the children been put up with any caring non indigenous family is going to benefit the child than been brought up with violence and sexual abuse. Broken people will grow up breaking future generations until the cycle of violence is broken.

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    Merry 3 hours ago
    As Jacinta Price said in January this year – if not for the first fleet those of mixed heritage wouldn’t be here.

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    Michael 3 hours ago
    Lets change Australia Day that will fix it

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    Timothy 3 hours ago
    They gotta stop blaming everyone else for there own problems and start taking responsibility for their own behaviour !!!

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    Damian 2 hours ago
    @Timothy a number of years ago the white government insisted the indigenous folk stop living in the dried rivers in Alice.. It was a bad look.. so white folks built houses and insisted they live in them.. why? better look is the answer. but the indigenous folks simply wanted to be left to live like they always did… not good enough said white man, its an embarrassment to us.. live in these houses and take our money.. live like us!! But that is not how traditional aboriginal folks want to live.. they simply want to use the land like they always have.. so we make them conform to white people ways, we give them money.. so whos fault is it?? i dont think its the aboriginal folks..

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    john66 2 hours ago
    @Damian @Timothy ok damian that’s fine about letting them live the way they have always lived, but i don’t think they have always lived in dry creek beds and walked into town to get booze and food.

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    Peter 3 hours ago
    Perhaps instead of all the protests they ‘protests’ like even all the new immigrants (simply for being Australians) are liable for all the crimes and atrocities against the Aborigines ever since… they should all read these factual and realistic comments here. Without being accused of being racists. Don’t worry, I’m not a racist because deep down you and I know it’s ‘your’ own doing. Not me.

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    Craig 4 hours ago
    They need to responsible for there own actions /ban the booze

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    Lyn 3 hours ago
    @Craig i understood booze had been banned in aboriginal communities but it gets through under the nose of authorities, imagine the outcry if police came between an aboriginal and his cask, human rights PC would be all over it.

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    Lyn 4 hours ago
    When the aboriginal population dwindles from their own neglect, no fault of mine, don’t ask me to apologise.

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    Peter 4 hours ago
    In the normal course of discussions… let’s just say I can have a ‘really’ good job of doing whatever I want to improve their lot – with unlimited resources, whatever the costs. Say, $5Mill per year job, challenging and obviously rewarding job to what one ‘might’ be able to achieve for the greater good for all. Brazillions of dollars… I’d still refuse the job. Why? Simply because it’s a dead-loss job. They don’t want you to be there because you’re not of the same colour of their skin… And even if you are, they’ll soon turn it into an in-fight. And I’m sure even if all agrees on it to start off with… I’ve never seen any grouping in the last nearly 50 years (or even in the history of Oz) that can ‘never’ pick itself up on anything and over anything. The Italians can, the Greeks can, the Vietnamese can – given their desperate situations and then a new problem on settling here. Yet slowly but surely they all ‘progress’. Yet the Aborigines??? What can they say? I can only see a lot of protests… and at the end (now) achieves what??? Compared to all the other immigrants can???

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    Michael 4 hours ago
    We have been giving so much for so long and it is still not enough!

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    Damian 2 hours ago
    @Michael white man wants aboriginal people to live in houses, so they give indigenous folks houses and money, they arent asking for it.. they simply are forced to conform to white mans ways. their land has been taken and we make them live in houses because living on the land is a little embarrassing.. so the government builds houses, gives them money.. then people start blaming aboriginal people for getting hand outs.. seriously this country is very uneducated on the settlement of australia and who is at fault…

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    Dan2 2 hours ago
    Every excuse under the sun Damien, what land hasn’t been occupied if settled just look at Britain.

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    Tracey 4 hours ago
    We are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. Take the children out of harms way and they are called the stolen generation.

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    Tracey 2 hours ago
    That’s the problem. But a culture that can claim that sexual abuse ‘isn’t that bad’ shouldn’t have a say. We wouldn’t be stealing them, we’d be saving them.

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    Merry 4 hours ago
    The Aboriginal community receives so much funding, it needs to take responsibility for what is happening and stop blaming others!

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    Lyn 3 hours ago
    @Merry Sadly the children suffer the consequences while waiting and hoping for something that will never happen, aboriginal elders only use their power to squeeze as much as they can from the government, the money is not spent to improve their life it only funds their idle life.

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    Kost 4 hours ago
    $30+ billion per year for absolutely no results….I’m in the wrong industry.

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    brendan 5 hours ago
    I was in Alice from 1978-1980, billions spent between then and now and not much has changed except more white people are labelled racist. Welfare quarantine is what is needed, don’t blame cops , don’t blame whites, smoking ceremonies, own constitution, are all side issues. How stupid do we have to continue to be about aboriginal issues.

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    John 5 hours ago
    I have worked in healthcare in NT and in outback Queensland and it it horrific what goes on, yet largely as a result of Kevin4Kevin’s apology and the outcry on the “stolen generation” we now have a “neglected generation” or a “non rescued generation” many of whom are ruined forever.

    Clearly money is not the answer.

    Nothing will progress until / unless the elders and leaders take responsibility and actually lead instead of continually asking for more handouts.

    Sit down money has never progressed anyone at all.

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    Damian 2 hours ago
    @John what exactly are the elders asking the money for?? how do you know they are asking for money? curious..

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    Steve 1 hour ago
    Ok Damian what’s your solution then smart boy ?

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    Kesis 46 minutes ago
    That’s all they keep protesting about eg compo , land rights etc etc when was the last time they protested about the kids ?

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    JOHN 5 hours ago
    Any suggestion put forward, with the best of intentions, seems to find it very difficul to penetrate the bureaucracy, or receive any response. A proposal was submitted to three separate government departments three years ago for the provision of shelter and employment in remote areas. Despite regular revisions and resubmission over this period, no acknowledgement or response has ever been received. It may be a flawed proposal, however it has never been tested so we’ll never know

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    john 5 hours ago
    Why? That’s the real question.

    The grog is blinding, why live blind?

    Where is the why?

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    Ben 6 hours ago
    Excellent article.

    This is a culture of abuse, dysfunction and disease.

    There is nothing to protect or be proud of.

    The only connection that these people have with pre-settlement aboriginal culture is skin colour and that is not reason enough to fix this mess.

    The Aboriginal community is its own enemy, when a child is in danger skin colour shouldn’t matter.

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    Andrew 6 hours ago
    @john66 but if we change the date of Australia Day they’ll all be happy and won’t do this anymore. Or maybe not.

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    John 6 hours ago
    They should be one law in Australia for everyone to obey, and the laws should be implemented. Get rid of the over generous financial incentives and provide food vouchers instead. Stop the handouts. The aborigines should be encouraged to work for money, instead of the government sweeping these issues under the carpet with unnecessary welfare payments. Treat all Australians equally.

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    Sandra 3 hours ago
    As an indigenous person all i can say is you’re bang on the money! Their lives won’t change one bit unless the government stops giving them cash handouts. Food Vouchers are a lot better way to go but you will still get lots of people who’ll just sell their vouchers for cash which is a pity.

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    Joy 6 hours ago
    Thanks, not sure who has written this piece, but the outrage must be continued, nothing has or will happen if it isn’t highlighted, it is to PC for anyone, except for the courageous few, to go there.

    ” A Palaszczuk government-­ordered plan to tackle a shocking youth culture of rape and underage sex in two north Queensland Aboriginal communities — where sexually transmitted infection rates are up to 50 times the state average — has been shelved for more than a year.

    Retired Supreme Court judge Stanley Jones and a steering committee of indigenous leaders, police, mayors and bureaucrats delivered a raft of recommendations in March last year on how to stem rampant youth sexual violence.

    But the unreleased report has yet to draw a response from the Palaszczuk government, and funding for a central preventive youth sexual violence program in the two communities is now under threat.”

    Justice Jones said he was unable to comment publicly on the government inaction over the plan, which was ordered by Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk after the devastating findings of the infamous Smallbone report into the communities

    Will see if the PC police junk this comment.

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    David 6 hours ago
    nothing will change until they open their own eyes.

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    Lyn 6 hours ago
    With or without alcohol there is no excuse for abusing women and children, its time to take a chance, remove the children and as they grow up explain why, what is the worst that can happen, you have a healthy lonely child missing their family or leave them and they grow into violent adults if they don’t die first, at least give them a chance to explore and rebuild a new aboriginal generation..

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    john 7 hours ago
    Superb article. Those that defend the indefensible need to be made to go sit with the abused kids.

    Shame the communities cannot or will not take responsibility. Shame the cities cannot help heal this shocking problem without jumping into the mire of race and gender

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    Kesis 39 minutes ago
    They are many many good decent people and communities around Australia a ready and willing to help it’s just that they are not allowed. This is simple because of what happened over a 100 years ago . I doubt these poor kids who a suffering terribly care about what happen so so long ago .

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    @Eric have you not read this paper before?

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  223. John Constantine

    Their greenstapo coalition with their shorten looting cartel will be epic.

    Saving Isabella the cow from Men that want to Hurt her.

    They will deindustrialise animal agriculture, the only uncertainty is will they do it suddenly through open legislation, or do it slow through Safety and Regulations and Inspections and compliance?.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-05-26/pig-farming-in-crisis-amid-ongoing-price-crash/9799644

    Dry weather increases feed grain prices, the ruinables electricity scandal squeezes the cost of running the pig shed and hits the costs of running the pig meatworks.

    Safe pigs activists demand happy pigs for a start, then replacing animals with compulsory solyent green rations to Stabilise the closed loop food cycle.

    The livestock industries take time to ramp up and slow down, sudden massive impulsive shocks are crap.

    Comrades.

  224. old bloke

    zyconoclast
    #2721313, posted on May 27, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    What the hell is wrong with Ireland?

    Their PM loves gerbils and the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs is an imported American lezzo.

    They previously had as Prime Minister, and later as President, Eamon de Valera, a Spanish-American, after they killed the only decent leader they had, Michael Collins.

  225. Stackja;

    A Warlpiri man approaches outside Coles for a friendly chat. He’s waiting for his wife, who’s shopping for a trip to Lajamanu, 900kms northwest of Alice, for a royalty payment meeting from the Granites gold mine. He expects she’ll be paid $50,000, tax-free, directly into her bank account.

    Yep – my family wouldn’t believe me when I tried to tell them about the staggering amount of cash flowing around these campsites. Rolls of money that would choke a giraffe.

  226. Rae

    Must be a slow night in the retirement village. That would have to be the worst case of copy and paste thread-bombing in the history of the Western World.

  227. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘The U.S. President Is Destroying the American World Order’
    In an interview with DER SPIEGEL, former German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer talks about the danger of war against Iran, the deterioration of trans-Atlantic relations under U.S. President Donald Trump and the serious need for Germany to invest massively in the European Union’s future.

  228. stackja

    old bloke
    #2721688, posted on May 27, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    And MSM started a campaign against the Catholic Church. MSM are repeating this in Australia.

  229. johanna

    He points to studies by Harvard’s Martin Teicher, who for 30 years has laid out a clinical case that children exposed to neglect, abuse and violence, such as the girl watching the adults fight outside the showgrounds, suffer brain impairment.

    Teicher has written that such experiences “can leave an indelible imprint on [the brain’s] structure and function. Such abuse, it seems, induces a cascade of molecular and neurobiological effects that irreversibly alter neural development”.

    Oh, FFS, how much longer are we having to put up with the propping up of academic careers on the backs of Aboriginal people?

    Millions spent on the most studied people on the planet, but none of them have the guts to do anything.

  230. Habib

    ZK2A, and not even an actual infanteer course, it was the bloody ADGies. I managed to get through that while fat and 48 years old. We are ruled by imbecilic cucks across the western world, except for the US where they’re subdued for the moment, but will be back like thrush.

  231. Mindfree

    His brother is so much talented

  232. I’d estimate that there would be – after a weekend card game – about a million in cash floating around the Blackstone Aboriginal Community, which consists of between 100 – 300 people.
    There’s munni in these communities. Lots of munnies.
    But most belongs to the Bigmen who intercept it from the fuel stations, the mining companies, or steal it from the poor and stupid mongs who refuse to leave and go to the big towns where their kids can get an education and escape the despair.
    Why don’t they?
    Because if they try to escape, they will be punished by cousins who reckon they are getting above themselves and can track them down wherever they go.

  233. OneWorldGovernment

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2721649, posted on May 27, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    here are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don’t

    You mean there are ‘1010’ types of people that understand binary or there are 2 people in the world that understand binary OR Dribbles is a subtle troll?

  234. OneWorldGovernment

    I’ve said that if Australians want to “save” Australian Aboriginals then we have to take children from their animal ‘parents’ and give them to an Australian Aboriginal Protectorate Trust.

    Bess Price can head that.

    Cut off all funding for all 6th world camps. Clovis People were far more advanced.

    Pay Australian Aboriginal Warriors on the basis of how many cat, dog and fox skins they bring in.

  235. Pickles

    Jacky Jacky off to a Coota B&S trying to get a root!

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