Monday Forum: June 18,2018

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  1. Pedro the Ignorant

    First XI.

    We will bat first, thank you Umpire.

  2. Habib

    Better than I ever did in athletics.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    If you’ve ever wondered why Teslas are like Trabants, here’s why:

    Elon Musk: ‘I Am a Socialist’

    Tesla CEO and PayPal billionaire Elon Musk surprised many Friday when he declared on Twitter that he is a socialist. Conservative critics, however, may well have agreed, given his companies’ reliance on the state. Musk tweeted his declaration Friday

    Elon Musk net worth: $19 billion.

  4. Speedbox

    New fred and top ten!

  5. nemkat

    Westerly still going in Brisbane.
    Coldest morning in years.

  6. thefrollickingmole

    Waiting patiently to find out if i still have a boss today..
    A workers comp fuckup* (projected cost $50,000+) means my boss might be getting his DCM today which means for the foreseeable future I will be doing 3 jobs not 2.
    If I disappear for a while its because Im busier than a dingo in a childcare center.

    *a little unfair, but the buck is stopping with him.

  7. struth

    Those terrible one percenters like Elon Musk and Soros are socialists.
    What about that Monty?

    Our top one percenters here are also on the taxpayers teat.

    Envy (leftism) means never asking how people got rich, just that you didn’t.

    But explain what you think Elon should do with all that taxpayer money he eagerly took?
    Go Monty…………………………………..

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Westerly still going in Brisbane.
    Coldest morning in years.

    Not imagining it Nemkat.
    Seven news reported the coldest June morning on record in Coolangatta.
    I was wondering if the ABC would consider this newsworthy.

  9. nemkat

    What’s a Workers Comp fuckup.
    Does it mean you unsuccessfully tried to stymie some poor bastard’s claim?

  10. Zyconoclast

    DVA secretly changed the rules to deny veteran’s claim in 10-year battle.

    7.30 can now reveal that in 2010 the DVA deleted an incapacity policy in order to deny Mr Rollins further assistance.

    It was a policy that was specifically meant to help self-employed veterans.

    If they became incapacitated they could declare their earnings were zero and claim financial help from the Department, even if their business continued to earn an income.

    With the stroke of a pen, the DVA had changed the rules and never told Mr Rollins or his lawyer, who were relying on it for his claim.

    Mr Rollins and his lawyer didn’t learn about the change until 2015 when they discovered the Department’s deceit buried in a several-hundred-page draft report into his case.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-18/dva-changed-the-rules-so-they-didnt-have-to-pay-martin-rollins/9865394

  11. nemkat

    Thanks, Bruce.
    I couldn’t remember a colder day here.

  12. C.L.

    “Brigadier” Linda Reynolds will bring her extensive combat experience to bear on Q&A tonight.

  13. Habib

    Musky’s a commie? Who would’ve ever guessed, it’s not like he’s gotten porcine on government slings.

  14. thefrollickingmole

    I see fuckwit is now going to show the depths of his ignorance on yet another matter.

    A “workers comp fuckup” can be a lot of things, what it isnt, and in no way resembles is what you are alleging you drooling cretin.
    Fuck along now.

  15. Habib

    Brisbane’s colder than a smooch from Joolier Gillard. And almost as windy.

  16. nemkat

    Right over the target again.

  17. C.L.

    Tommy Robinson has written a letter from prison.
    Pretty obviously, the government has attempted more than once to facilitate his murder in gaol.

  18. Zyconoclast

    Good job by World Cup security.

    World Cup ‘safe space’ zone for minorities and LGBT community shut down in St Petersburg

    The Fare Network, which helps FIFA and UEFA investigate cases of discriminatory behaviour by fans, had planned to operate “diversity houses” in Moscow and St Petersburg during the World Cup with exhibitions and talks on human rights.

    However, the night before the opening, the company renting out the venue on the edge of the fan zone in St Petersburg suddenly pulled out and told the activists they would not be welcome.

    “They asked us to leave the place very rudely, switched off the electricity and they explained nothing to us,” a local organiser told the BBC.

    Fare executive director Piara Powar said FIFA general secretary Fatma Samoura had “made high-level representations on our behalf but to no avail”.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-18/world-cup-safe-space-diversity-house-closed-down/9879416?pfmredir=sm

  19. C.L.

    The Nationals would never agree to selling off the ABC.
    They all rely on Sesame Street.

  20. Dr Faustus

    Brisbane’s colder than a smooch from Joolier Gillard.

    And there I was, thinking what a beautiful sunny day it is…

  21. Atoms for Peace

    On the road at 530 am Sunshine Coast for the morning constitutional. Not that cold you wimps.:-)

  22. Habib

    I’m a bit suspect of anyone who has to resort to Slugs and Grubs to try to wheedle a sling from DVA, they’re bastards, but there’s an awful lot of malingerers out there. Some even make it into the senate.

    I never had a moment’s grief (except for the time it took) getting my knee done on their tick, top notch treatment the whole way, and I’m a bloody rocky. Three months on crutches was a pain in the arse, but they paid me for any losses incurred.

  23. nemkat

    Probably a nice day in Greenland if you’re in the sun and out of the wind.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    The Fare Network, which helps FIFA and UEFA investigate cases of discriminatory behaviour by fans, had planned to operate “diversity houses” in Moscow and St Petersburg during the World Cup with exhibitions and talks on human rights.

    However, the night before the opening, the company renting out the venue on the edge of the fan zone in St Petersburg suddenly pulled out and told the activists they would not be welcome.

    “They asked us to leave the place very rudely, switched off the electricity and they explained nothing to us,” a local organiser told the BBC.

    Sort of like when a group of non-violent conservatives wants to have a gathering in a pub and the pub owner cops all manner of shit on Twatter.
    Doesn’t fell great, does it?

  25. Leigh Lowe

    feel.
    feelings.
    feel-ups
    etc

  26. H B Bear

    Seven news reported the coldest June morning on record in Coolangatta.
    I was wondering if the ABC would consider this newsworthy.

    They certainly will BoN. No doubt it will be the hottest year eva in a few months.

  27. Habib

    After the bollocks last week from the Nationals leader in Qld they’re more the enemy than the liberal party. They need to be utterly destroyed, how anyone in the bush could vote for these marxist imbeciles is beyond my comprehension.

  28. Habib

    Shorten says that like its a bad thing, and undesirable. He is of course lying as usual, the liberal party no longer exists.

  29. Habib

    And who’d buy it, except for scrap value?

  30. struth

    agrarian socialists they have always been.

    The fact of the matter is we are supposed to be represented by these people and not “governed” by them.
    Australians are so lethargic they deserve all that’s coming to them, and all that they are already putting up with.

  31. Mak Siccar

    From C.L.’s link earlier.

    C.L.
    #2740478, posted on June 18, 2018 at 1:58 pm
    Tommy Robinson has written a letter from prison.
    Pretty obviously, the government has attempted more than once to facilitate his murder in gaol.

    Donate here. (It appears legit.)

    https://www.therebel.media/help-save-tommy-robinson

  32. H B Bear

    After the bollocks last week from the Nationals leader in Qld they’re more the enemy than the liberal party.

    As struth says – always have been.

    For a long time the Lieborals were kept in check by a hold out group of small government Dries that generally maintained some control over the PM. That was eroded under The Father of Middle Class Welfare and abandoned entirely by Waffleworth and his Black Hand homo Wets. The Nationals have always been Big Government cheerleaders.

  33. OldOzzie

    Turnbull makes ABC pledge

    Malcolm Turnbull says the ABC will never be sold while he is leader of the Liberal Party.

    “The ABC will always be in public hands; it will never be sold. That is my commitment,” the Prime Minister said.

    “It is a public broadcaster, it always has been and it always will be.”

    The Liberal Party’s federal council passed a motion on the weekend urging the government to privatise the public broadcaster.

    Liberal MP Sarah Henderson, a former journalist for the ABC, said the notion of privatising the broadcaster was “stupid”.

    “The ABC is a much loved institution, I know that better than anyone else, and a publicly funded ABC is very much a part of its success and its future,” Ms Henderson told Sky News.

    Government blocks ABC debate

    The Turnbull government has blocked attempts by the federal opposition to commit to not privatising the ABC, AAP reports.

    Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus sought to move a motion in parliament today rresolving the lower house would “never support the privatisation of the ABC”, and for an $83 million funding cut be reversed.

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Trade Minister Steve Ciobo were forced to desert European Union Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom in the middle of a press conference in order to block debate on the motion.

  34. struth

    Too soon to be putting out victory letters like that Tommy.
    I feel you may have made a mistake there.
    Thank people for their support, but there was a tad too much optimism there.
    Some of your supporters will think the battle is won and go back to their warm pints.

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    i love u.n.australia.

  36. Chris

    Malcolm Turnbull says the ABC will never be sold while he is leader of the Liberal Party.

    Oh, darn.

  37. OldOzzie

    Lucy Gichuhi says $200,000 salary ‘not a lot of money’

    A media interview in which Lucy Gichuhi complained about her $200,000 salary and the lack of “house girls” in Australia has emerged as she is forced to repay misused public funds for travel.

    It was revealed yesterday the Kenyan born Senator claimed $12,000 for trips to Sydney as “electorate business”. Her electorate is in Adelaide. The trips included speaking at the National Australia Bank’s African Australian Inclusion Program, attending an international event organised by a Christian radio program and appearing on the ABC program Q&A.

    Senator Gichuhi appeared in a live interview on the Kenyan program Kenya Citizen TV in January in which she said her salary was “not a lot of money.”

    “Yes, my salary it is somewhere on the website, I don’t look at it because it comes into the bank, but it’s not a lot of money by the way,” she told the program host.

    “Politicians, and I mean Australian politicians, work so hard 24/7, nobody, and I mean nobody, can compensate them for the work they do.

    “$200,000, in a whole year, that’s not a lot of money.”

    She then admits her pay is more reasonable than what Kenyan politicians are paid.

    The Senator said the lack of “house girls” made life difficult for her when she first arrived in Australia.

    “There are no house girls, for your information,” she said. “Without house girls it was such a challenge but I learned and learned very quickly.”

    Senator Gichuhi said her husband had put in a lot of effort to become more domesticated around the house.

    “My husband was working so hard to adjust from that man attitude to help around the house.”

    Senator Gichuhi entered the Senate for Family First after the High Court ruled Bob Day ineligible. When Family First merged with Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives she spent time as an independent senator before joining the Liberal party.

    The SA Senator has already agreed to pay back $2139, which she had claimed for flying her family to Adelaide for her birthday last October.

  38. Mother Lode

    Malcolm Turnbull says the ABC will never be sold while he is leader of the Liberal Party.

    Now, that would be WINNING!

  39. So the Southern Baptists want to re-engage ‘mainstream culture’ by leaving the party of the incumbent President? Too stupid for words.

  40. Mak Siccar

    The donation to Tommy Robinson fighting fund works through PayPal. A confirmation email is sent to the nominated address.

  41. Carpe Jugulum

    Top fifty

    Woo Hoo

  42. OldOzzie

    CHRIS KENNY
    Why the ABC will never be privatised

    Picking a fight about privatising the ABC is about as sensible as surrendering your nation’s cheap energy advantage to appease the climate bureaucrats of the United Nations. Such is the madness of national politics of this country that both are realities.

    We live in an age where the re-emergence of the once-extinct Clivosaurus Palmerexus hardly makes us blink. It is just another day in Canberra as big Clive thunders in and signs up yet another of our nation’s endless supply of nameless senators prepared to swap parties, principles and loyalties for the shot at some more time on the red leather and travel entitlements.

    But let us at least engage our common sense for a moment on the issue of privatisation and the billion dollar taxpayer-funded behemoth that is our — or their — ABC. Aunty will never be sold off. So, by passing a motion to demand the ABC’s sale, the Liberal Party’s federal council has done nothing but start a losing battle that opens up Malcolm Turnbull’s government to yet another avenue of populist attack.

    There are five key reasons why the ABC won’t and shouldn’t be privatised. To start with, the broadcaster is valued by many Australians, especially Coalition supporters. The Coalition base (politically engaged people involved in small business, community service, farming and aspirational pursuits across the nation and especially the regions) often relies on the ABC for political coverage and local news. The corporation’s green left bias might infuriate them but that is precisely because they have such a high regard for the services it should provide.

    Political commentators in Canberra — including Michelle Grattan published on the ABC website — seem to misunderstand both the Coalition base and the concept of virtue-signalling when they describe this move as “virtue-signalling to the base.” On the contrary, this is a case of narrowcasting to a hard line cohort of the Liberal Party; there is no virtue being displayed — they want to display ruthless bravado — and those applauding are not the Coalition’s base.

    Secondly, this proposal makes little commercial sense. Free-to-air broadcasters are in enough strife already with diminishing advertising revenue; how would a vast new commercial player turn a dollar even if it picked up the ABC assets at a bargain price? It would lead to large job losses and disruption across the electronic media as limited advertising dollars were spread more thinly.

    Thirdly, in my view (and that of many Australians), there is a role for a public broadcaster across our vast and disparate federation. This is why the national broadcaster was established in the 1930s; to try to help bind the nation together in the newly-emerging information age. Granted, the need is nowhere near as obvious now given the plethora of media choices and national networks available, but there is still a case for a public broadcaster than can cover the entire nation with a charter to supply crucial content, as well as gather and share insights from across our land.

    The fourth reason is the sheer idiocy of the politics. Even if it wanted to, the government would never be able to sell the ABC because it will be blocked by parliament, public backlash, strikes, internal political dissent and all the rest of it. So the upshot of proposing the policy is just political self-harm. Labor and the unions now have another scare campaign to run all the way up to the election — justified by the Liberals’ own federal council resolution — that will be emotive and damaging. No sitting Coalition MP will thank the Young Liberal upstarts responsible for this stunt — let alone their candidates in next month’s by-elections.

    While the issue is ventilated we can expect the ABC to be even more puerile and aggressive in its dealings with the Coalition.

    And finally, the proposal to privatise the ABC is an admission of failure in the running of a major cultural institution. The ABC needs to curtailed, merged with the SBS and straightened out, sure, but arguing to flog it off is just another way of admitting an inability to fix the problems.

    In opposition, the Coalition foolishly agreed to change the ABC charter to give it carte blanche in digital media. In effect, by adding digital media to the charter, they allowed the ABC perpetual unlimited opportunities to expand. The Coalition now needs to formulate a policy that will revisit the charter, prescribe and limit the number of platforms it provides and focus the corporation on core functions. Over time, through an SBS merger and budget restraint, public broadcasting activities should be shrunk and refocused.

    Along the way a Coalition government should do all it can — by appointing a strong board and editorially-focused managing director, removing staff tenure and constantly pushing it to fulfil its charter — to change the ABC’s activist, green left culture. The ABC cannot be allowed to continue as the publicly-funded political platform for progressive ideologues. If current managing director Michelle Guthrie can’t convince her organisation to employ some prominent managers, producers and voices from the mainstream or right-of-centre, she ought to resign. Instead she is currently being pushed by the staff collective to fight back against a government that has never grasped how to tackle this organisation that is full of its ideological enemies but valued by its friends.

  43. Mother Lode

    “Politicians, and I mean Australian politicians, work so hard 24/7, nobody, and I mean nobody, can compensate them for the work they do.

    That is because the news cycle is 24/7 and they are all devoted to climbing the greasy pole.

    If they got paid according tot he time they spent actually focused on the well-being of the people footing the bill they could only afford to turn up in parliament wearing clothing from K-Mart, and Lucy would be out pimping Malcolm to people who fantasise about fucking sloths to raise money for the bus to Socialist Club.

  44. OneWorldGovernment

    I love foxes and rabbits.

    lol

    those dingos get torn apart by gentle dogs.

  45. John Constantine

    Their turnbullites simply would never sit down to have a meal with anybody that would vote for them.

    They much prefer the fine dining company of unshakable greens voters that tell opinion polls that turnbull is better dressed than shorten.

    Comrades.

  46. Dr Faustus

    The Turnbull government has blocked attempts by the federal opposition to commit to not privatising the ABC, AAP reports.

    Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus sought to move a motion in parliament today rresolving the lower house would “never support the privatisation of the ABC”, and for an $83 million funding cut be reversed

    .

    Traditionally Australian Governments have a Leader of Government Business to anticipate and manage this sort of bullshit. The Turnbull Winner’s Circle Groom of the Stool must have been otherwise engaged.

  47. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    self identified top 10 with kryptonite lead shielding

  48. Habib

    Henderson outs herself as a boilerplate bedwetter. Any differing opinion is “stupid”, apparently. Sock puppets such as this vitriolic harridan are why the liberal party must be set on fire. Put out with a hammer. Then set on fire again. Repeat for effect.

    They aren’t even ashamed about being in full agreement on every socialist agenda with labor and the greens.

  49. John Constantine

    Doesn’t every couple that both work for their ABC have ‘house girls’ ?.

  50. struth

    Chris Kenny.
    Eat my shorts.

    What dribble.
    I think we have quite covered every idiotic point he makes and have already rebuffed them here well enough to not need to pull it apart.
    It’s just Chris Kenny after all.

  51. Stimpson J. Cat

    None
    #2740465, posted on June 18, 2018 at 1:51 pm
    Ok you win that round Stimpy.

    😁
    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

  52. egg_

    There are no house girls, for your information,” she said. “Without house girls it was such a challenge but I learned and learned very quickly.”

    Beyond parody.

  53. Habib

    Obama with tits it seems. Who ever thought that bag was a worthy recipient of an upper house gig?

  54. H B Bear

    Dog fvcker Chris Kenny turns the other cheek.

  55. struth

    She should see Greens leader Di Nutjob.
    He’ll put her in touch with a few you don’t even have to properly!

  56. H B Bear

    The idea that a wholly staff captured organisation like the ALPBC can ever be “managed” back to something resembling balance, particularly by the supine, do-nothings that call themselves management, is a complete myth. The only option with the staff co-op is nuclear.

  57. egg_

    pay

    Watermelon and fried chicken?

  58. Slayer of Memes

    A tale of two cartoons (or ‘Leftist double-standards writ large’):

    Cartoon 1
    Leftist response: “OMG this is SO TRUE!! Men should just SHUT UP!”

    Cartoon 2
    Leftist response: “OMG ISLAMOPHOBE!! BIGOT!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!”

  59. Woolfe

    Chris is getting smashed like avocado in the comments.

  60. egg_

    The idea that a wholly staff captured organisation like the ALPBC can ever be “managed” back to something resembling balance

    Break it up, like it was at its inception.

  61. Habib

    Kenny is right, the ABC shouldn’t be privatised. It should be eviscerated, and its entrails fed to wild pigs while its still breathing.

  62. None

    For a long time the Lieborals were kept in check by a hold out group of small government Dries that generally maintained some control over the PM. That was eroded under The Father of Middle Class Welfare and abandoned entirely by Waffleworth and his Black Hand homo Wets. The Nationals have always been Big Government cheerleaders.

    Australian politics 101 summed up in a few elegant sentences.

  63. nemkat

    Any publicity is better than no publicity, and no publicity is what the Coalition would end up with if they disappeared the ABC.

    Have a look at those free papers that get tossed on your lawn every week.
    Reading them, you wouldn’t even be aware the was any alternative to the ALP.

  64. Mother Lode

    It is telling that Kenny cannot conceive of how people would get by without an ABC.

    If the regions really relied on the ABC for news, especially political, then how is it that rural districts are not uniformly Labor?

  65. struth

    Chris is getting smashed like avocado in the comments.

    Love it if you could paste some here……….please.

  66. Can’t someone in the LNP just ask why the ALP are shoulder to shoulder with the ABC?

  67. OldOzzie

    CUT & PASTE
    Any takers for green-left leaning, bloated broadcaster?

    Business opportunity? The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday:

    The Liberal Party’s peak council has voted almost 2:1 to privatise the ABC in a call that was swiftly rejected by cabinet ministers amid warnings it would be “total madness” to act on the call … Council delegate Mitchell Collier, the federal vice-president of the Young Liberals, said he had enjoyed ABC programs such as Bananas in Pyjamas during his childhood but said there was no economic case to keep the broadcaster in public hands. Mr Collier won the vote on the floor of the council … (Treasurer Scott) Morrison quipped that some Australians “may think the Labor Party already owns it” but the government had no plans to sell the ABC.

    Dangerous for whom? ABC political editor Andrew Probyn, ABC TV’s Insiders, yesterday:

    (Malcolm Turnbull has) talked with worry about the new (uncurated) media landscape. I would make the point that perhaps at a time like this the value of a national broadcaster is even greater … (and antipathy to the ABC in Liberal ranks) can be very dangerous for the Coalition.

    Destructive, even? The Australian, May 1:

    The ABC’s new political editor has been chastised by (the regulator) ACMA for breaching impartiality standards in a controversial report about former prime minister Tony Abbott. Andrew Probyn … described Mr Abbott as “the most destructive politician of his generation”.

    But what’s the ABC worth? Not all comments on the Fairfax Media coverage prize Aunty as a national treasure. James Taylor, Saturday:

    Offer it to the staff for $1. They will then have to make their own way in the world. From a taxpayers point of view it is not worth anything because it costs us more than $1B to run and brings in zero income.

    Privatisation makes no cents, according to ABC chief economics correspondent Emma Alberici, Twitter, yesterday:

    Putting aside the fact that @abcnews is never going to be sold, worth remembering that if the ABC disappeared today, our commercial rivals would not generate one extra cent of revenue. We don’t take their revenue.

    Tell that to Fairfax CEO Greg Hywood. SMH, May 17, 2017:

    Fairfax Media chief executive Greg Hywood has hit out at the ABC for using taxpayer money to boost the profits of multinational corporations such as Google and encroaching onto the terrain of newspaper companies … Hywood said he was not “anti-ABC” but was concerned about the public broadcaster “using taxpayer money to drive traffic” to its news websites by paying to boost its Google search results. These tactics make it harder for online readers to find news articles from companies such as Fairfax that rely on advertising revenue to support journalism, he said. Mr Hywood said the ABC was aggressively competing for online audience with companies such as Fairfax, which is creating additional commercial pressure for traditional newspaper companies.

    But it costs us so little! The Guardian, February 9, 2018:

    The ABC now costs every Australian just four cents a day, half what it cost in 1987 when the famous “eight cents a day” campaign was launched … “We’ve learned to do a lot with our few cents a day,” (says) the ABC’s chief financial officer, Louise Higgins.

    OK, but how many of “us” actually tune in? ABC 2017 annual report:

    Average weekly reach for radio (35.2 per cent of the country), TV (metro 52.5pc), ABC Online (38.8pc).

  68. None

    Chris is getting smashed like avocado in the comments.

    Good. Remember Chris used to work for the ABC. Chris sued the ABC and sucked up more of our tax dollars – and then appeared on the ABC anyway with the people he sued. Also given he abandoned wife number one and took up the trophy wife -an ex staffer I believe – who has a need to breed he also needs to have a retirement option because he’ll be paying school fees until he’s 80. Chris Kenny has moments of brilliance but mostly moments of limpid wet self stimulation targeted at his other limpid wet media colleagues.

  69. Roger

    “There are no house girls, for your information,” she said.

    Dick di Natale might be able to advise Lucy on how to afford domestic help in Australia.

  70. nemkat

    If the regions really relied on the ABC for news, especially political, then how is it that rural districts are not uniformly Labor?

    They can use their brains, maybe? Just guessin, mind.

  71. struth

    Yes, the silly old buffoons would be fucked without Makka on a Sunday morning.

    FMD.
    These people are morons.
    It’s the 21st century and there is no need for any government radio or television anywhere.
    There are alternatives to the ABC already in place, and where there is not the exact same service, it’s because the bloody ABC is there.

  72. Roger

    Kenny is right, the ABC shouldn’t be privatised. It should be eviscerated, and its entrails fed to wild pigs while its still breathing.

    Fair go…if it’s privatised the long suffering tax payer might at least get some material return on his investment besides a well directed gobbet of spit in his face from ABC presenters.

  73. None

    Didn’t Chris Kenny’s own paper report the ABC News audience numbers were dismal just recently? I don’t know anyone who watches ABC much less takes ABC News seriously. Chris is still living in the 950 when your grandma might have watched auntie. A few country types might watch Landline but that’s one hour a week and could be easily produced by any of the commercial stations.

  74. For a long time the Lieborals were kept in check by a hold out group of small government Dries that generally maintained some control over the PM. That was eroded under The Father of Middle Class Welfare and abandoned entirely by Waffleworth and his Black Hand homo Wets. The Nationals have always been Big Government cheerleaders.

    When was this magical wonder time when the Liberals weren’t big spenders? Fraser left the budget in massive deficit. McMahon blew it out to try to win an election, in vain.

  75. Roger

    “We’ve learned to do a lot with our few cents a day,” (says) the ABC’s chief financial officer, Louise Higgins.

    Give me a break; Guthrie is on about $2400 a day by my calculations.

    An editor in chief who refuses to take editorial responsibility for anything the ABC does.

    Nice work…

  76. nemkat

    Dick di Natale might be able to advise Lucy on how to afford domestic help in Australia.

    At least the slimy Di Natale did pay them.
    Somehow, I don’t think Senator Lucy had that in mind. The Senator seems to live life high on the Hawg, yet IIRC, her public backstory was growing up on the slopes of Mt Kiliminjaro collecting sticks to sell as firewood.
    Wouldn’t it be interesting if this wasn’t quite true, let alone if some dawg whisslin raaaycis uttered the words ”Mau Mau”.

  77. None

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2740542, posted on June 18, 2018 at 2:39 pm

    Enjoy sleeping alone. Don’t choke on the fur balls mind. 😹

  78. None

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if this wasn’t quite true,

    I can assure you that Lucy’s back story is about as creative as her accounting.

  79. Mother Lode

    They can use their brains, maybe? Just guessin, mind.

    So they are discounting the ABC’s output. Then why do they need it?

  80. struth

    When was this magical wonder time when the Liberals weren’t big spenders? Fraser left the budget in massive deficit. McMahon blew it out to try to win an election, in vain.

    You should be happy with their performance then.
    You didn’t vote liberal because you are all in for Austerity?
    Hey, what should elon Musk and Soros do with their billions being socialist one percenters, Monty?

  81. cuckoo

    Was there ever a more pompous ass than Geoffrey Robertson QC? (Well yes, Marcus Einfeld, but I digress.) In one of those luvvy interviews in Fairfax over the weekend, he is asked, having solved almost all the world’s problems, what will he turn his mighty brain to next? Answer: gun control in the US. Now wait for it, but Geoffrey has been looking at the Second Amendment and has discovered that it doesn’t mean what all those dumb hicks think it means! I almost feel sorry for them, once Geoffrey goes to work.

  82. egg_

    Any takers for green-left leaning, bloated broadcaster?

    The cashed up Chinese – they’ve bought up enough of our Utilities.

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    PERTH university students are being warned against using gender-specific language like “mankind” with Curtin University lecturers permitted to dock marks for assignments that stereotype on the basis of sex.

    Its Inclusive Language Procedures require staff and students to ensure all communication is free of discrimination, including gender bias.

    Deputy Vice-Chancellor, Academic, Jill Downie said Curtin required staff and students to communicate in ways that were inclusive and reflected a commitment to valuing diversity.

    “Where a member of the university community acts contrary to our expectations, there are clear processes to provide educative and/or other actions to address the issue,” Professor Downie said.

    “While it is possible that a student may fail an assessment or be subject to actions under the student charter or misconduct provisions, our preference would be to work with students to educate them on the use of inclusive language.”

    UWA and Murdoch university have published non-discriminatory language guidelines that staff and students are expected to follow.

    The UWA version advises students to replace “mankind” with “humankind” or “human race”, while “founding fathers” should instead become simply “founders” or “ancestors”.

    A UWA spokeswoman said academics provided feedback and guidance to students on the appropriate use of language, but could not confirm if marks were subtracted for indiscretions.

    Murdoch University’s non-discriminatory language guidelines warn some compliments to women could be seen as put-downs.

    An Edith Cowan University spokeswoman said it did not have specific non-discriminatory language guidelines.

    It’s the stupidest time in human history and why anyone encouraging their children to go the university is guilty of child abuse.

  84. Dr Faustus

    Wayne Swan wins Labor presidency

    Swan will take over as ALP president from Mark Butler after counting was completed on Monday.

    His only surplus.

  85. struth

    They can use their brains, maybe? Just guessin, mind.

    People are starting to, and they don’t like paying to have socialist crap shoved down their throats.
    What part of that don’t you get , Numkit?

  86. Chris

    They can use their brains, maybe? Just guessin, mind.

    So they are discounting the ABC’s output. Then why do they need it?

    Mother Lode, that is gold.

  87. nemkat

    So they are discounting the ABC’s output. Then why do they need it?

    Not necessarily discounting it, just sortin the wheat from the chaff.
    Why do they need it?
    Well, Skippy, do you think any of the commercial channels are going to give you Question Time for 4c a day?

  88. Was there ever a more pompous ass than Geoffrey Robertson QC?

    Him versus Stu Littlemore is an epic ass-off.

  89. Baldrick

    Malcolm Turnbull says the ABC will never be sold while he is leader of the Liberal Party.

    “Losing! You’ll get sick of losing.”

  90. Roger

    A few country types might watch Landline but that’s one hour a week

    I watched Landline yesterday; it featured a story on a female fly fishers who get about in designer gear on bespoke boats and, naturally, appeared to want something from someone or other who was male.

  91. egg_

    Malcolm Turnbull says the ABC will never be sold while he is leader of the Liberal Party.

    Tick, tock…

  92. nemkat

    People are starting to, and they don’t like paying to have socialist crap shoved down their throats.
    What part of that don’t you get , Numkit?

    The TV licence fee was done away with decades ago. So, it’s free.
    The 4c a day?
    It’ll get spent on Housing African migrants, so what’s the point?

  93. H B Bear

    Swan will take over as ALP president from Mark Butler after counting was completed on Monday.

    Small shoes to fill. And yet The Goose won’t even manage that. A great loss for the Nambour TAFE.

  94. Mother Lode

    Not necessarily discounting it, just sortin the wheat from the chaff.

    How do they do that if they haven’t already got sources of information.

    The ABC is either redundand (when they agree) or spurious (when they don’t). Point is that it is not reliable. If there is something people want to watch, let the private sector provide. There have been a few advances in technology.

    Actually, let Parliament House broadcast QT on their website. (That would be some of that new technology.)

  95. struth

    Well, Skippy, do you think any of the commercial channels are going to give you Question Time for 4c a day?

    You really believe it’s four cents a day don’t you?

  96. H B Bear

    Please, a simple “Fvck Off” is all that is required when dealing with nemsock.

  97. None

    I was about to say Roger that landline just features these green left boutique farners and tree changers yada yada but I hadn’t watched it in years and years. Thanks for confirming nothing has changed in which case it’s disappearance will not cause a ripple. Farmers are actually getting quite good and networking amongst themselves via Facebook Twitter and the like.

  98. Roger

    Where a member of the university community acts contrary to our expectations, there are clear processes to provide educative and or other actions to address the issue,” Professor Downie said.

    She sounds like a right little Fascist.

  99. egg_

    I watched Landline yesterday; it featured a story on a female fly fishers who get about in designer gear on bespoke boats and, naturally, appeared to want something from someone or other who was male.

    Landline’s audience is probably dwindling accordingly – it’s like when ABC Sunday arvo Sport went all wymminses.

  100. Boambee John

    cuckoo at 1514

    Geoffrey has been looking at the Second Amendment and has discovered that it doesn’t mean what all those dumb hicks think it means! I almost feel sorry for them, once Geoffrey goes to work.

    Would those “dumb hicks” would be the US Supreme Court, which has found that the Second Amendment does include an individual right?

  101. Roger

    Farmers are actually getting quite good and networking amongst themselves via Facebook Twitter and the like.

    I can’t imagine any farmer still hangs out for Landline’s end of show run down of market prices for the week.

  102. Chris

    Small shoes to fill. And yet The Goose won’t even manage that. A great loss for the Nambour TAFE.

    Was he even enrolled?

  103. H B Bear

    Was there ever a more pompous ass than Geoffrey Robertson QC?
    Him versus Stu Littlemore is an epic ass-off.

    Littlemore wouldn’t even see which way he went.

  104. nemkat

    How do they do that if they haven’t already got sources of information.

    It’s not 1943 anymore.
    There wouldn’t be anyone who can;t access alternative sources of information.

  105. Stimpson J. Cat

    Baldrick
    #2314591, posted on March 3, 2017 at 6:45 pm
    Grigory M
    #2314585, posted on March 3, 2017 at 6:37 pm
    Friday fish – Tassal Premium Salmon Fillets with Herb Butter and White Wine, accompanied by Coriander and Lemon Couscous.

    Straight out of the boxes:
    *Tassal Premium Salmon Fillets with Herb Butter and White Wine
    *Aldi Coriander and Lemon Couscous
    Livin’ the dream Septimus

    Aldi -Because if it’s good enough for Grigs,
    it’s good enough for you.

  106. egg_

    Actually, let Parliament House broadcast QT on their website. (That would be some of that new technology.)

    Cameramen are redundant nowadays – all done remotely from a booth, simples.

  107. Can anyone think of a single front dear to the Right that the LNP are willing to fight on?

  108. thefrollickingmole

    Aldi -Because if it’s good enough for Grigs,
    it’s good enough for you.

    Unfortunately there is no Aldi where I live.
    Instead I was forced to walk down to the beach and catch some whiting, then fillet their still twitching bodies before throwing the fillets into some butter.

    Time from water to plate, about 1/2 an hour.

    I tell you some of us without an Aldi nearby are doing it tough.

  109. Roger

    Can anyone think of a single front dear to the Right that the LNP are willing to fight on?

    This is the unhappy legacy of compulsory voting: it drives political parties to the centre.

    When the centre is shifting leftwards with each generation, we get the current LNP.

  110. struth

    Can anyone think of a single front dear to the Right that the LNP are willing to fight on?

    Nope, and I did think for a while.
    I was going to say they stopped the boats, but that was just because it was bad visuals and they were losing too many of the voteherds at sea.
    So now we pay to fly them in in greater numbers instead, while the ABC reports on anything that looks the other way.

  111. Makka

    Can anyone think of a single front dear to the Right that the LNP are willing to fight on?

    The jelly backs aren’t in it for the fight. They are in it for your money.

  112. Confused Old Misfit

    female fly fishers who get about in designer gear

    This kind?

  113. nemkat

    By definition, the Liberal Party are a Centre Left Party, so why should they burn any calories for the Right?

  114. Chris

    You really believe it’s four cents a day don’t you?

    $1.2B divvied by 20M people is $60 pa or $0.16 per day
    But I support a family so mine is four times that: $240 per year

  115. thefrollickingmole

    End times are upon us.

    Wayne Swan wins Labor presidency – question time live
    Swan will take over as ALP president from Mark Butler after counting was completed on Monday. All the day’s events, live

    It’s an honour and a privilege to be voted the next president of the Australian Labor party.

    My thanks to the many thousands of Labor members who participated in this important election, and of course to all the candidates who put themselves forward for the honour and hard work of being president of our party.

    My campaign was driven by the belief that Labor’s future lies first and foremost in being clear about what we stand for.

    Our success won’t be determined by tinkering with internal processes or by the outcome of votes over single issues at national conferences.

    To get new members coming through our door, and a new generation campaigning and voting for us, we have to show them we mean business about creating a better, more democratic and more equal society.

    This means getting better at addressing the big picture. Around the world and here in Australia, democracy and equality are under threat from powerful and well-funded vested interests.

    We need to take them on and beat them. Labor must be re-organised so it can better fight that battle. We have to be more than a campaign machine for winning elections; we have to be a campaign machine for winning the battle of ideas.

    The idea that we live in a corporation, not a community must be defeated for once and for all, and Labor has to take the lead in defeating it.

    Ultimately, Labor must restore people’s faith in the idea that collective action through government can create a better society and better lives for all of us.

    Winning that battle is the starting point for having Labor governments that can succeed in office

  116. Roger

    This kind?

    Alas, no; all designer waders & fishing vests and sensible hats.

    Credit where credit is due, though, they were tying their own flies.

  117. nemkat

    Peter Dutton says he’s open to New Zealands offer of ‘150 asylum places once numbers on Nauru get lower.

  118. johanna

    Wimps in Qld complaining about the cold.

    Yesterday here in Queanbeyan the maximum was 7.5C. For most of the day it was around 5C, with a chilly wind blowing that brought the experienced temperature if you were outside below zero – all day and all night.

    It was so cold I put on my Burning Palms SLSC sweater on indoors. 🙂

    Dreading the energy bills, though. In that sort of weather there is no getting around having the heating on day and night. That didn’t use to be a big problem – even as a poor student I could afford it.

    Our wealthy and cossetted politicians, who are unaffected by the pain they are inflicting on even people earning average wages, need a massive kick up the arse, preferably into oblivion.

  119. H B Bear

    Sounds like Wayne Goosesteen has been watching too many Corbyn YouTube videos on the backbench.

  120. C.L.

    But let us at least engage our common sense for a moment on the issue of privatisation and the billion dollar taxpayer-funded behemoth that is our — or their — ABC. Aunty will never be sold off. So, by passing a motion to demand the ABC’s sale, the Liberal Party’s federal council has done nothing but start a losing battle that opens up Malcolm Turnbull’s government to yet another avenue of populist attack.

    Ah yes. There it is. That famous Australian ‘conservative’ doctrine in the wild.
    Don’t fight for something that will be hard won. Don’t insist on principle. Surrender to the left. That way leftists will vote Liberal and the media will give us the break we need.

  121. BrettW

    Regarding the SA Senators $12,000 for trips to Sydney.

    One trip was for expenses to appear on Q&A. Do people think she should spend her own money ? Any Senator / MP appearing on Q&A clearly is there because of their Parliamentary position and I can’t see a problem with her or others claiming for it.

    Regarding Senator Burston and big Clive even the Courier Mail predicted they would meet up in Canberra today. Yet Burston claimed only decided after he said, in the Senate, he was now an Independent. Good to hear Press giving Clive a hard time and hope they keep it up. Courier Mail editorial plus two pages today certainly socked it to him.

  122. H B Bear

    Anyone living in Canberra deserves it.

  123. C.L.

    Sick loser.

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Why was the FBI’s sick loser, Peter Strzok, working on the totally discredited Mueller team of 13 Angry & Conflicted Democrats, when Strzok was giving Crooked Hillary a free pass yet telling his lover, lawyer Lisa Page, that “we’ll stop” Trump from becoming President? Witch Hunt!

  124. Habib

    Landline is the ABC in microcosm, a once relevant program with updates on the agricultural sector, commodity prices and other useful information- all now immediately available on-line, at the cost of your IP charges. Now infiltrated by blithering hippy idiots, giving free plugs to their equally fuckwitted mates running boutique breweries, organic kale farms and bespoke rural low-carbon getaways for hipster douches.

    It’s sole input into actual rural business is to usually bag it, and usually with utterly unfounded accusations with zero evidence, put up by animal rights loons and silent spring nutters.

  125. BrettW

    Good on NZ. They are welcome to have those rejected by the USA. Or put them all in Adam Bandt’s electorate.

  126. Mother Lode

    You misunderstood my point and then made it to me.

    So long, numnuts.

  127. zyconoclast

    Speaking of house girls

    Years ago, before full Chavez, a Venezuelan mining analyst was working in Australia so his children would have a better future.
    His wife made him, under threat of divorce, go back to Venezuela because she did not want to house work. Back there she could afford two maids, so she could sit around all day drinking coffee with her friends rather than look after the children and the house.

  128. Baldrick

    You really believe it’s four cents a day don’t you?

    Let’s do the maths.
    Five million net taxpayers divided by $1.1 billion = $220 each per year, thank you very much.

  129. C.L.

    Wimps in Qld complaining about the cold.

    Yesterday here in Queanbeyan the maximum was 7.5C.

    The difference is the architecture.
    Ten degrees in 99 percent of Queensland dwellings = about -10 in Canberra.

  130. calli

    Stop bagging Aldi you elitists!

    * munching blue Castello lookalike on cracker*

  131. H B Bear

    BrettW – have a read of Teh Weekend Australian on immigration. Falafel Land is full of Iraqis via NZ.

  132. notafan

    Why It’s Absurd To Pretend The Enlightenment Is Responsible For Racism

    hashtag philosophy

    interesting piece on racism and the enlightenment

  133. MichelLasouris

    Now the Manky Media is blaming some European nations for not rushing to save the plague of coackroaches on the march from the shitholes of darkest Africa. Their destiny is entirely their own fault, and of their own making. Let’em drown. They didn’t ask permission to try and invade Europe, they decided on their own that Europe wanted them ( it doesn’t); that their lack of the host’s language wasn’t important ( it’s essential) and that they had some skills that might be useful ( they don’t). Now that the civilised world is hurtling rapidly toward robots and AI , the menial tasks that once might have absorbed the rats from Africa, won’t even be there. Do they expect to laze around ,living off the ingenuity and investment of the advanced societies? They’re deluding themselves. They have no choice but to stay put and figure out how their primitive societies can catch up.

  134. Mater

    From the Chris Kenny article:

    While the issue is ventilated we can expect the ABC to be even more puerile and aggressive in its dealings with the Coalition.

    If Chris thinks this is at all likely, he has just undermined his entire argument. Any national broadcaster who could be expected to retaliate against a sitting government because their value was questioned, is out of control.
    Imagine a similar situation that involved the military. Could you imagine the outcry at even the thought of it.

  135. Mother Lode

    Swanny wins something?

    I hope they gave him a Laurel and Hardy handshake. (Thank you, Blazing Saddles.)

    He is probably now dreaming of his first meeting with Trump (hey, they are both Presidents) and giving him some tips on things he picked up as treasurer.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stop bagging Aldi you elitists!
    * munching blue Castello lookalike on cracker*

    The best part about shopping at Aldi is that the creepy man wearing socks with sandals and a trenchcoat nosing through the freezer section could be Grigs.

  137. Habib

    One trip was for expenses to appear on Q&A. Do people think she should spend her own money ?

    Yes. Like anyone else stupid enough to appear on that unwatched cretinfest.

  138. calli

    The Senator said the lack of “house girls” made life difficult for her when she first arrived in Australia.

    “There are no house girls, for your information,” she said. “Without house girls it was such a challenge but I learned and learned very quickly.”

    Poor Lucy. Had to pick up her clothes off the floor and make her bed.

    At $200k she could afford a cleaner, the cheapskate. She sure knows how to hoover – opm that is.

    She should be forced to resign immediately, the thieving piece.

  139. Chris

    MichelLasouris

    Michael permit me to inform you that you should not call human beings lives being lost at sea ‘cockroaches’.
    If you think that is the behaviour of a decent person you are mistaken.

  140. calli

    I’m always vigilant, Stimps. Especially around the skincare section.

  141. MichelLasouris

    How about harsh economic sanctions on all the Countries that allow the African hordes through, on their way to the Mediterranean shores. The rules state that refugees must seek sanctuary in the FIRST nation the encounter in their ‘flight’ from ‘oppression’ Otherwise they should travel with visas for their destination. Crikey, they haven’t even learned how to swim! Dumb arses!!
    If the dusky hordes reckon their welcome in Europe. let each of them nominate a sponsor who will support them . I had to do this when I arrived in Australia as an economic migrant.

  142. struth

    it’s roughly 60 cents a day and I would suggest that the net taxpayer ratio still takes into account those in the private sector on government contracts in many cases, so most likely over a dollar a day for the ABC to be paid mostly by that demographic who disagree strongly with it being there in the first place, let alone it’s sickening Marxist bias.

  143. Chris

    the creepy man wearing socks with sandals and a trenchcoat

    You won’t recognise him; there likely will be a picture of a female stickytaped over his face.

  144. None

    The cashed up Chinese – they’ve bought up enough of our Utilities.

    at least they pay a some money instead of having us pay for the ABC, presently doing their propaganda for free.

  145. Chris

    I’m always vigilant, Stimps. Especially around the skincare section.

    Damn I think I just got fooled by a new sock.

  146. Stimpson J. Cat

    You won’t recognise him; there likely will be a picture of a female stickytaped over his face.

    The thought of a transgender Grigs is absolutely horrendous.
    Just horrifying on many levels.

  147. Snoopy

    One trip was for expenses to appear on Q&A. Do people think she should spend her own money ?

    I’ll bet that the ABC pays for, at the least, most others to attend. I wonder if she wasn’t double dipping?

  148. Mak Siccar

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/06/soft_jihad_in_america.html

    … and in Australia as well thanks to our treasonous political ‘class’.

  149. struth

    The ABC pays for Islamic terrorists and activists to attend [email protected]
    Why not Yassmin’s mum.

  150. None

    But let us at least engage our common sense for a moment on the issue of privatisation and the billion dollar taxpayer-funded behemoth that is our — or their — ABC. Aunty will never be sold off. 

    Dear God Chris Kenny just oozes sanctimony. What is common sensical about never selling off a Billion Dollar behemoth? Who in their right mind would ever so confidently predict that something will never ever be sold? Is Chris Kenny god or does he have control of the entire future? Is he telling us he knows the will of the people now and for every generation to come? Did I say recently that Chris Kenny can have moments of brilliance? I take that back. The guy’s an utter fuckwit.

  151. nemkat

    The bottom line is that ABC Management have a long term goal of running the ABC into the ground.
    Allegedly conservative commenters want to hasten the process.

    Since no one is talking about revitalising the ABC, my conclusion is that both groups share similar aims.

  152. egg_

    Especially around the skincare section.

    Particularly hand sanitisers, apparently.

  153. BorisG

    Ah yes. There it is. That famous Australian ‘conservative’ doctrine in the wild.
    Don’t fight for something that will be hard won. Don’t insist on principle. Surrender to the left. That way leftists will vote Liberal and the media will give us the break we need.

    goof point CL.

  154. egg_

    The bottom line is that ABC Management have a long term goal of running the ABC into the ground.

    $1.1B p.a. for Govt policy announcements?
    Doesn’t Trumble have a you-beaut website staffed by an elite team of experts for that?

  155. None

    My neighbour was so excited when Aldi opened near here. The fruit and vegetables we’re desiccated with age, the meat was fatty, the deli selections were loaded with brine and canola oil, the coffee was tasteless, there wasn’t a basic rice noodle in the house…. it was just fantastic.

  156. cohenite

    Now wait for it, but Geoffrey has been looking at the Second Amendment and has discovered that it doesn’t mean what all those dumb hicks think it means! I almost feel sorry for them, once Geoffrey goes to work.

    He is a smarmy prick with a most punchable face. Any way District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) sets in stone the right of an individual to own a gun for self defence. Regulations such as those requiring weapons be disassembled and therefore not capable of being used are unconstitutional. Scalia who wrote the majority verdict in Heller is a great loss.

  157. A Lurker

    Has anyone heard anything factual about a nasty form of bird flu (airborne variety) that has a 40% mortality rate and has killed 100 people in China?

  158. nemkat

    struth
    #2740648
    it’s roughly 60 cents a day …

    Oh noes, those poor taxpayers. 60c a day.
    Oh, the pain.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can we get Rae and P in here please.
    We need more voices of diversity.

  160. None

    Rae is busy tickling OWG.

  161. Fisky

    “Privatising” the ABC is so last decade. The institution should simply be closed, and equipment, furniture and audio/video archives either destroyed or flogged separately on Gumtree.

  162. lotocoti

    The difference is the architecture.

    Fact check: True.
    Traded in a seventy year old tin and timber house for a 70 yo double brick, and whilst brisk, there’s been no need for the periodic frostbite check.
    I have, however, closed all x-ray, yankee and zulu openings.

  163. P

    People we need in The Senate of the Australian Federal Parliament –

    R Bosi
    P Castieau (enlarge the photo in the above link)
    L Shelton

  164. The difference is the architecture.
    Ten degrees in 99 percent of Queensland dwellings = about -10 in Canberra.

    Indeed. We are colder here in Melbourne in winter than what we were in NYC largely because of the better heating they have over there.

  165. John Constantine

    The vast and true cost of their ABC cesspit is the deindustrialisation of Australia.

    The destruction of Australian wheat from a premium brand to a lowest cost commodity.

    The short term destruction of the Australian red meat industry, with the hellbent agenda, regardless of health issues of banning all meat as soon as possible.

    The cost of saboteurs levering a billion dollars of stolen money every year into real damage, that is the true cost of unleashing criminally inclined chemically dependant communistically committed quislings upon us all.

    Comrades.

  166. C.L.

    the creepy man wearing socks with sandals and a trenchcoat

    But enough about Daniel Andrews.

  167. nemkat

    A Lurker
    #2740667
    Has anyone heard anything factual about a nasty form of bird flu (airborne variety) that has a 40% mortality rate and has killed 100 people in China?

    Yeah, it’s a campaign our friendly Pharma Giants are road testing ATM.

    Like 70s Bands, if the Medicine Show tours too often, the hokum loses it’s mass appeal.

    Either SARS or Swine Flu was the last one.

  168. The Barking Toad

    top 200 perhaps

  169. johanna

    C.L.
    #2740634, posted on June 18, 2018 at 3:46 pm

    Wimps in Qld complaining about the cold.

    Yesterday here in Queanbeyan the maximum was 7.5C.

    The difference is the architecture.
    Ten degrees in 99 percent of Queensland dwellings = about -10 in Canberra.

    You have a point, although I think you exaggerate the difference. Around here it is up to 42C in summer and -7C in winter, neither of which is reached in Coolangatta. We manage.

    Yesterday I saw a bloke playing golf across the road in a short sleeved shirt. They breed ’em tough around here. I have mentioned before the tradies and construction workers who wear shorts all year round.

    The kangaroos, obviously Queensland imports, were nowhere to be seen.

    Onto the ABC and Kenny’s stupid article. He, and the Libs, are a carbon copy of the RINOs that Trump is slowly dislodging. Their arguments are tissue-thin and the thought of actually changing anything sends them swooning onto the nearest couch.

    As usual, they mistake noise for numbers. The fact is, a minority of Australians watch or listen to the ABC and now that the commercials have picked up the popular British series they used to have a monopoly on, the numbers are declining even more. You can see Antiques Roadshow, Lewis, Agatha Christie, Death in Paradise and many more such on the commercial channels.

    Mind you, the motion to ‘privatise’ the ABC was dumb. There is nothing to privatise except plant and equipment and real estate. Their self produced content is worth bugger all, except for maybe the news and a couple of other programs.

    The notion of reforming the ABC and gradually shrinking it is laughable. It would be fought every step of the way, including through interminable court battles. It is not a strategy for reform, but a strategy for avoiding it.

  170. Stimpson J. Cat

    Where’s Dot?

  171. johanna

    Poor Lucy. Had to pick up her clothes off the floor and make her bed.

    I know, calli, it’s an outrage.

    Rich women in Africa have servants who are paid a pittance. It is their right.

    I notice that she isn’t picking up the clothes and making the bed – her husband is.

    Winnie Mandela II – come on down!

  172. Bela Bartok

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2740579, posted on June 18, 2018 at 3:14 pm
    PERTH university students are being warned against using gender-specific language like “mankind” with Curtin University lecturgers permitted to dock marks for assignments that stereotype on the basis of sex.

    I’m at ACU and some of their markers have the same policy.
    My response was ‘go ahead, you’re not going to make me change.’ That probably explains the lower marks, but what the hey?

    Oh, and more smarmy that Robertson, G? Julian Burnside – prize twat.

  173. “We’ve learned to do a lot with our few cents a day,” (says) the ABC’s chief financial officer, Louise Higgins.

    Three & a Half Million Dollars per day.
    That is just to run it. No capex or amortisation in that.

    Heck, with $25 million per week to blow on staff & production, why do they produce so much crap?

  174. thefrollickingmole

    The thought of a transgender Grigs is absolutely horrendous.
    Just horrifying on many levels.

    Its even worse when he attends seaworld.

  175. H B Bear

    Winnie Mandela II – come on down!

    Lucky the Persian Dwarf left the Senate. He might have been necklaced.

  176. Dr Fred Lenin

    Calli last Christmas as my contribution to the main meal I bought lobster scallops and uncooked prawns frozen from aldi ,on the day with some mixed salads we had a gourmet Christmas lunch . A couple of nice bottles of Brown Bros whitte wine ,and you could not have eaten better in a two star Guide Michelin restaurant , and a hell of a lot cheaper . Don’t knock the Aldimeister !

  177. nemkat

    Lot more houses in Brisbane with chimneys than there used to be.
    It’s definitely gotten colder.

  178. Dan Dare

    What sort of sharks were they in that clip Misfit?

  179. mizaris

    Jerry Springer…gone…

  180. None

    Australian politics is now just a clown show
    https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1008516421494558720
    Also Clive Palmer is fat.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Nationals have always been Big Government cheerleaders.

    I was very interested to see a political ad on the tv a couple nights ago.
    From the ACL.
    It ended with this line: “Nationals = Greens”
    It looked to me that they were attempting to counter the spin that the Nats are more rightwing than Turnbull’s wet lefty Libs.
    As I said, very interesting: that the ACL has the money for tv ads and want to make this truth known in voterland.

  182. Slayer of Memes

    Sounds like Wayne Goosesteen has been watching too many Corbyn YouTube videos on the backbench.

    Speaking of Comrade Jeremy, did you see the latest blue he is facing in the UK?

    Seems Comrade Jeremy had the bright idea to hold a festival celebrating the ideas of socialism.

    Unfortunately for him, not many people wanted to buy tickets at £35…

    So they dropped the price to £10…

    And STILL very few people wanted to buy tickets…

    So, in a last ditch attempt to save face and put bums on seats, they started giving tickets away for free…

    …only to face stalwart socialist members who had paid for tickets threatening to revolt because they were angry at subsidizing other people to attend!!

    It’s only Socialism when it’s OTHER PEOPLE’S money, donchaknow Comrade….

  183. None

    So do you still have a boss, Mole?

  184. JC

    Three & a Half Million Dollars per day.
    That is just to run it. No capex or amortisation in that.

    Heck, with $25 million per week to blow on staff & production, why do they produce so much crap?

    Yes there is, Driller. Both capex and depreciation are accounted for in the annual report. Here’s the link, but like everything else when caught like a dishonest, you go into denial. Stop talking about stuff you don’t understand.

  185. cohenite

    Mind you, the motion to ‘privatise’ the ABC was dumb. There is nothing to privatise except plant and equipment and real estate. Their self produced content is worth bugger all, except for maybe the news and a couple of other programs.

    The ‘goodwill’ of the abc is what the goodwill of leftism, communism, islam, sexual deviance, the break up of the family, destruction of education and science and aboriginal culture are worth: minus infinity. This is the point; the damage to Australia done by the abc is not the abc’s budget but its incalculable damage to our society by promulgating these ideologies.

  186. thefrollickingmole

    None

    At this stage, hes still stood down pending arrival of head honcho from HR tomorrow, whos suddenly flying in with some VIPs from the company who were already scheduled to visit.

    tick tock…indeed.

  187. None

    Oh wow, Bruce. In this instance I’m going to applaud the ACL for calling out the New South Wales Nats. All true. All true. The NSW Libs are even more corrupt. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/australian-christian-lobby-ad-likens-nsw-nationals-to-greens/news-story/e85d553cf618fe07b62639dad54f679b

  188. Beachcomber

    Habib #2740629, posted on June 18, 2018 at 3:43 pm
    Landline is the ABC in microcosm

    You missed the latest story about cruel capitalist oppression in Australia; the low number of wymmynses representing Australia in fly fishing. Their Landline spent a good part of the program promoting a wymmynses-only Australian fly fishing team and their fight to overcome the white male heteronormative hegemony. We can only admire how they do it on a $1,200,000,000 budget that is cut to the bone.

  189. None

    I feel a bit sorry for your boss, mole. It almost sounds like he’s the fall guy. And HR. If they’re involved, augh. Almost guaranteed rhat he whole process will be designed for others to chestpuff and humiliate. I hope however that the outcome is one that addresses the issues fairly and humanely.

  190. calli

    Their Landline spent a good part of the program promoting a wymmynses-only Australian fly fishing team and their fight to overcome the white male heteronormative hegemony.

    I watched that. Hilarious. One of the birds claimed she hated killing things.

    So she lures trout with a hook disguised as a mayfly, it goes through the “thing’s” mouth, she reels it in and reefs the hook out. For sport.

    Just knock it on the head and put it out of its misery ya silly sausage. And then eat it.

  191. P

    Oh wow, Bruce. In this instance I’m going to applaud the ACL for calling out the New South Wales Nats. All true. All true. The NSW Libs are even more corrupt

    The article is worth reading:

    BoN
    The article by Joe Kelly
    The Australian
    10:39AM June 6, 2018

  192. Mark A

    johanna
    #2740681, posted on June 18, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Mind you, the motion to ‘privatise’ the ABC was dumb. There is nothing to privatise except plant and equipment and real estate. Their self produced content is worth bugger all, except for maybe the news and a couple of other programs.

    I often thought of this same thing when privatization is mentioned, to privatise it, it has to have commercial value.

    Ie. it has to have willing viewers, ears and eyeballs. Don’t know the latest rating figures, anyone clued up on that?

    Don’t count me in, nor members of my family.

  193. stackja

    Derrick Belan jailed for spending union members’ ‘scant’ funds on bikes, botox
    By court reporter Mazoe Ford
    Updated 27 minutes ago [Their ABC]

    The former secretary of the National Union of Workers (NUW) NSW branch has been sentenced to four years’ jail for spending more than $650,000 of union money on tattoos, botox treatments, boat cruises, cars and motorcycles.

    Derrick Belan, 47, was found guilty in March of 60 charges, including dishonestly obtaining financial advantage and participating in a criminal group with a book keeper and IT contractor.

    The Parramatta Local Court heard Belan intentionally defrauded the union between 2010 and 2015 by fraudulently using its credit card for personal expenses and being part of a scheme to submit fake IT invoices.

    Belan’s lawyer said “not one red cent” was taken or used inappropriately by his client.

  194. Gab

    “Privatization” is a word dreaded by the leftards because to them it reeks of the evil Capitalism.

    Better to say sell it off.

  195. Roger

    The difference is the architecture.
    Ten degrees in 99 percent of Queensland dwellings = about -10 in Canberra.

    This is true.

    I knew a couple from NY who lived in Brisbane for a couple of years in the 1980s and swore they were colder here than back home. They found it impossible to warm the house.

  196. egg_

    “Nationals = Greens”

    Agrees with all the new wind farms in Barn’s electorate, alone.

  197. thefrollickingmole

    None

    Hes on a hiding to nothing, the worker in question was recorded properly when he was injured, then cleared twice by doctors.
    Then our nurse pulled the pin and our temp nurse hasnt been familiar with our procedures and allowed the case to drift from doctors visit to doctors visit.
    Because it was originally seen as a minor injury (confirmed twice by doctors) it was handled “in house” rather than through the insurer.
    Worker had it imaged for the second time and damage was found.

    Ive been concerned about it since day one, having been involved in his first treatment (I was the first person he saw) and my worst estimate ended up not being bad enough.
    The boss is now carrying the can for 2 doctors clearances being incorrect (as well as radiography) and if the insurer refuses the claim (which they are in their rights to do) the bill to the company is in the order of $50,000. (treatment and recovery leave).

    Its a bugger, hes being effectively made the scapegoat for doctors errors.

  198. tgs

    I see John Adams is peddling his economic doomsday bs over at news.com.au again. Thank god his bullshit isn’t cross-posted here anymore.

  199. mizaris

    Why bother with all the paperwork to privatise the alpbc??

    Fully DEFUND it. Problem solvered.

  200. H B Bear

    Jerry Springer…gone…

    There is no room left for Jerry Springer’s show in today’s world. The freaks are just everywhere.

  201. Beachcomber

    cohenite #2740701, posted on June 18, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    …. the damage to Australia done by the abc is not the abc’s budget but its incalculable damage to our society by promulgating these ideologies.

    100+!

  202. JC

    MarkA
    The concept of privatization is something I disagree with because their ABC shouldn’t be privatized. It should be closed down with maximum prejudice. Having said, in a theoretical sell off it wouldn’t be just the assets that would be privatized or at least taken into account by future investors. It would be the potential income stream after expenses (on the assets put to use) that investors would value. Valuing the assets as scrap is much different from valuing an entity as a going concern and trying to figure out the income in future years.

  203. egg_

    a wymmynses-only Australian fly fishing team

    Imagine all the barbs.

  204. egg_

    Jerry Springer…gone…

    There is no room left for Jerry Springer’s show in today’s world. The freaks are just everywhere.

    Snowcone’s captured the market.

  205. None

    I watched that. Hilarious. One of the birds claimed she hated killing things.

    you can’t live on the land (or the sea) without killing things. One of the looming problems facing our rural sector is the rise of animal activists and their ingratiation by big supermarket chains, corporations and of course the ABC. These animal activists are not fainting Betty’s. They are utter bastards, and cost farmers millions, sometimes cost their livelihoods and almost their lives. They are well organised and well-funded usually by overseas interests.

  206. JC

    MarkA

    I think you understand that concept. Reading your comment more carefully, it seems that it’s Johanna who has less than zero understanding of finance and economics. She was the beast suggesting the sale would mean selling the assets from scrap, thereby implying that would be the thing potential investors would look at.

  207. Roger

    Regarding the SA Senators $12,000 for trips to Sydney.

    One trip was for expenses to appear on Q&A. Do people think she should spend her own money ? Any Senator / MP appearing on Q&A clearly is there because of their Parliamentary position and I can’t see a problem with her or others claiming for it.

    I believe the figure is $20 000.

    The Q&A gig is apprently claimed by all politicians. Does the ABC not at least cover their costs?

    The other trips were for speaking engagements which, given she represents SA and not NSW, are not claimable. I note $2000 for one night in Sydney where dinner was provided – how on earth do you spend $2000 for one night’s accommodation in Sydney even with air fares?

  208. Gab

    Well we can argue all we like but their ABC will never be shut down. The best we can hope for is a year-on-year reduction of taxpayers’ funds going to the stinking leftarded partisan mostly unwatched dead albatross.

    But we don’t have any politicians courageous enough to do that.

    Mind you, had their ABC been full-on conservative, gillard would had’ve shut it down in a second.

  209. H B Bear

    I note $2000 for one night in Sydney where dinner was provided – how on earth do you spend $2000 for one night’s accommodation in Sydney even with air fares?

    This is why you are not Senator material Roger. Who hasn’t thought about taking a helicopter to Geelong from Melbourne?

  210. zyconoclast

    Mak Siccar
    #2740658, posted on June 18, 2018 at 4:07 pm
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/06/soft_jihad_in_america.html

    … and in Australia as well thanks to our treasonous political ‘class’.

    You only have to watch till 2:50
    Bill Warner PhD: Answers to Questions about Political Islam

  211. None

    Mole, that sounds awful. One of those cascading scenarios born of frail human error and circumstance. The poor bastard would be beside himself, more so if he has a family as well to support. I really do hope it is dealt with fairly and humanely. I hope they don’t destroy a man for a pathetic 50K – it’s probably costing them that much just to fly down everyone for the circus tomorrow – and I hope too, that the injured worker recovers fully. Here’s hoping wisdom prevails.

  212. JC

    It’s not a bad strategy of continuing to cut them annually, Gab. That way they go freaking crazy each year… and crazier each year. 20% next year and half of them will be calling the Hotline.

  213. Beachcomber

    John Constantine #2740676, posted on June 18, 2018 at 4:26 pm
    The cost of (ABC) saboteurs levering a billion dollars of stolen money every year into real damage, that is the true cost of unleashing criminally inclined chemically dependant communistically committed quislings upon us all.

    As usual, John Constantine nails it.

  214. Dr Fred Lenin

    Being of late middle age (80),I can remember people proudly saying,”I only watch the abc commercial stations are full of rubbish” .,in those days the abc played a lot of BBC comedy and drama shows,the commercials played American rubbish ,and still do . . Gradually the thought police infiltratedl their propaganda and lies ,it has got so bad with the usual communist overkill that no thinking person can put up with any of it . Landline has been taken over by the gangrenes and retired teachers turned “farmers ,selling second rate wine for top rate prices ,they did a vignerons course at tafe , the garden show was always suss with that old Stalinist Cundall running it ,now they have the little hairy bloke I call Cousin It,and the gangreenes spouting gerbil worming . Close it down ,sell the land and equipment and give the money to the staff as entitlemts with no pension rights ,a one off payment to get rid of them . Them we can watch how a large bunch of communists cope with JobSearch ,that will be funny ,hilarious .

  215. thefrollickingmole

    Peak Hipster & Mangina reached?

    Ok the idea of mens groups isnt new, and there have been some awful ones around before, but this might be some sort of singularity of suck.

    Stimpy, you should join to bring some sanity to proceedings.

    Quotes, RTWT.

    In the hometown of Jordan Peterson, the evangelist of white male resentment, a different and thoughtful men’s movement vies to be heard

    The Huddle, a male bonding group which meets Tuesday nights after closing to work out, run, or meditate.
    But once a month, the men circle up to talk about, well, their feelings.
    Downtempo jazz and cartons of maple sap water greeted me as I plunked myself down next to a young man who recently quit his job to become a freelance cinematographer. The evening’s facilitator, Alex Cameron, a man with hulking, tattoo-plastered arms and slicked-back salt-and-pepper hair, told us the theme for this session: emotional literacy. Cameron, who is 40, runs a psychotherapy practice nearby.
    ….
    We went around the circle sharing whatever came to mind about manhood, emotions, relationships, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Jordan Peterson, the fact that most mass shootings are committed by socially isolated white men.

    He wrapped up on a more personal note. “When I feel vulnerable, I cry. It looks like sadness on the outside, but it feels powerful.”

    I met a Reiki healer, a construction worker, a former professional soccer player, a gym owner, a bartender, and several social workers. The group appeared to attract mainly straight, unmarried men in their thirties who share interest in fashion, athletics, and wellness trends; the tattoo quotient of the participants was high.

    “It’s allowed male feminists like myself to come out of the shadows,” Michael Kehler, a University of Calgary masculinities studies professor, told me by phone. His career, after two decades of “quiet, diligent work to move this agenda forward,” has flowered with media requests and speaking engagements. In January, Kehler became North America’s first masculinities studies research chair.

    Peterson’s fan base, which is 84 % male according to the data analytics firm Zoomph, is well-steeped in racist alt-right culture. He does not endorse the extreme right-wing movement, but it’s no coincidence that it has largely endorsed him, while the pro-feminist men’s movement has not.

    Around the time Trump was elected, Perera, 42, worked part-time for Next Gen Men, a non-profit that works with teenage boys to get them thinking outside the gender box. During one afterschool program at an elite prep school outside Toronto, the conversation, Perera recalled, turned to the new US president.

    “I described him as the ‘televangelist of toxic masculinity’. I said to the guys, ‘He’s like Cobra Commander from GI Joe – he has to have his supervillain logo on everything from his helicopter to his evil headquarters at Trump Tower’. One of the boys looked at me with kind of a deadpan stare, and was like, ‘That’s actually kind of cool’. It was this moment where I had a crisis of faith. I realized that the movement is failing.”

    RTWT, its a crude a hit piece on Peterson and anyone who doesnt sprinkle estrogen on their breakfast cereal.

  216. Rae

    This should make the Monster orgasmic!

    On Saturday, former FBI Director James Comey tweeted out an image of him standing in the cornfields of Iowa.

    It did not take long before folks on Twitter decided that Comey must be contemplating a 2020 presidential run.

    Right outta left field, as they say.

  217. Geriatric Mayfly

    Just caught up egg_
    I watched Landline yesterday; it featured a story on a female fly fishers who get about in designer gear on bespoke boats and, naturally, appeared to want something from someone or other who was male.

    Thankfully, in all the countless miles I have walked probing waters with the fly, this species remains vey thin on the ground. There are many unwritten rules and conventions, which if the wimminzes ever got the upper hand would all have to be redrafted, because it is a pastime imbued with toxic masculinity. Fly fishing for feelz would be the end of the universe as we know it.

  218. None

    Well we can argue all we like but their ABC will never be shut down

    double majority or a favorable senate and it can be shut down in a matter of a couple of weeks. If you promise some of the savings to some lovey dovey cause like NDIS the lobbies will have a hard time cry that one should deprive the disabled so that 10000 people can watch TV.

  219. Bruce of Newcastle

    Valuing the assets as scrap is much different from valuing an entity as a going concern and trying to figure out the income in future years.

    JC – We are talking about the ABC here. Their idea of a senior economics expert is Emma Alberici.

    I can see no way for the ABC as a business to achieve sufficient cash flow to pay for programming let alone staffing. Their ratings suck. Adding advertising would be like adding an event horizon in suckiness.

    The most financially appropriate action for any buyer would be to close the doors, pay the staff entitlements with the asset value and pocket what’s left. Actually operating the business would lose vast amounts of money every year.

  220. Entropy

    I think at the very last you could reduce the number of channels and stations that are operated by the ABC and SBS. That proliferation is reducing the market for the private sector, not filling unmet needs.

  221. None

     

    Perera, 42, worked part-time for Next Gen Men, a non-profit that works with teenage boys to get them thinking outside the gender box. 

    God that sounds like some super creepy pe-do grooming program.

  222. egg_

    Fly fishing for feelz would be the end of the universe as we know it.

    Grandson egg is a fly fisherman, like his dad (a Champion) and Uncle.

  223. Chris

    promise some of the savings to some lovey dovey cause like NDIS the lobbies will have a hard time cry that one should deprive the disabled so that 10000 people can watch TV.

    Uhuh. Or medical research maybe.

  224. DrBeauGan

    “I described him as the ‘televangelist of toxic masculinity’. I said to the guys, ‘He’s like Cobra Commander from GI Joe – he has to have his supervillain logo on everything from his helicopter to his evil headquarters at Trump Tower’. One of the boys looked at me with kind of a deadpan stare, and was like, ‘That’s actually kind of cool’. It was this moment where I had a crisis of faith. I realized that the movement is failing.”

    More winning!😁

  225. egg_

    I think at the very last you could reduce the number of channels and stations that are operated by the ABC and SBS.

    +1

    That’s Oz Springer audience, right there.

  226. None

    Uhuh. Or medical research maybe.

    yep and then you can just casually and quietly withdraw the funding in later years when everyone’s gotten over hyperventilating.

  227. thefrollickingmole

    I like the cut of this blokes Jib…

    Torquemadia 3m ago

    When I asked why so many mass shootings were perpetrated by socially isolated white men they called me a saint.
    When I asked why so many white men were socially isolated, they called me a misogynist and told me to check my privilege.

    Nice reversal.

  228. JC

    Bruce

    Why are you preaching to the converted, when I already said I support closure – not privatization.

    Emma is a great economics editor having broken new ground by identifying revenue and net profit.

    Frankly I wouldn’t buy it for zero as I’d wouldn’t take the risk with all the super/ benefits etc and an extremely nasty leftwing workforce.

  229. Makka

    Privatization” is a word dreaded by the leftards because to them it reeks of the evil Capitalism.

    In our corrupted system, it matters little. Once privatised, Govt regulates so that the business conforms to all manner of socialist, feminist, SJW, environmental, union inspired workplace regs ensuring that taxpayers like us pay through the nose to keep the parasites alive. Privatisations means bugger all in terms of efficiency and value for money. It’s simply an acceptable term for a vehicle to rip us off.

  230. Rococo Liberal

    The concept of privatization is something I disagree with because their ABC shouldn’t be privatized. It should be closed down with maximum prejudice. Having said, in a theoretical sell off it wouldn’t be just the assets that would be privatized or at least taken into account by future investors. It would be the potential income stream after expenses (on the assets put to use) that investors would value. Valuing the assets as scrap is much different from valuing an entity as a going concern and trying to figure out the income in future years.

    This

  231. Atoms for Peace

    I once saw a Canberite practice fly fishing in some park near the concrete nightmare they call a CBD.

  232. Makka

    It looks like Iran’s threats to blackmail UE leaders about their Iran bribes is bearing fruit;

    “According to an article published by New Europe weekly on Monday, the European Commission said it has adopted an update of the Blocking Statute and of the European Investment Bank (EIB)’s External Lending Mandate. The move follows up on the informal Leaders’ Meeting in Sofia, as well as the Commission’s announcements of May 18.

    “These measures are meant to help protecting the interests of EU companies investing in Iran and to demonstrate the EU’s commitment to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA),” the Commission said in a press release.

    “The European Union is fully committed to the continued, full, and effective implementation of the JCPOA, so long as Iran also respects its obligations. At the same time, the European Union is also committed to maintaining cooperation with the United States, who remains a key partner and ally,” the Commission said.”

  233. MsDolittle

    The BoM predicted a dry, warm winter for Australian ski resorts and yet Hotham has had 95 cm of snow so far.. must be opposite day.

  234. Fisky

    I think you understand that concept. Reading your comment more carefully, it seems that it’s Johanna who has less than zero understanding of finance and economics. She was the beast suggesting the sale would mean selling the assets from scrap, thereby implying that would be the thing potential investors would look at.

    I wouldn’t even bother selling the assets for scrap – just drop leaflets in Dandanong inviting all the African youth to come and loot the joint. They can burn the building down once they’ve taken out anything of value.

  235. Rae

    Rae is busy tickling OWG.

    No. Dead to you. And to your keyboard. Remember? (No response needed)

    Anyway, Sweety-Pie. The only thing I would be doing with the all-night madman is having him sectioned and locked away. He’s clearly watched the Monty Python Bruce skit too many times.

    PS: I’d probably put him in the same cell as you.

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