Monday Forum: June 18,2018

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  1. C.L.

    The test will come when some [email protected] or killer, when arrested, says that he/she confessed what they were doing or had done to their priest. Maybe then it will be tested in the High Court. I’m sure the Church and it’s legal advisors will take it there.

    That is true. They – [email protected] – will argue they could have been stopped but Fr Wilson Pell heard their confession and didn’t contact police. Police will then interview priest who will tell them to go jump. The priest will then be charged with obstruction (whether or not he had ever heard such a confession). The media will report it as ‘Fr Wilson Pell protected child molester.’

    The other odd and stupid thing about this law is that – paradoxically – it invests an ordained priest with a legal authority which any defence would easily reject at trial. A private confession will always be hearsay anyway. There will be no evidence the two people ever encountered one another or what may or may not have been said. It will even be impossible to establish an identity because priests cannot see penitents.

    So then: the law cannot be enforced, is pointless, will lead to false charges against priests and cannot possibly lead to any convictions.

    Now … what did the South Australian Labor Party know about Bob Ellis and when did they know it?

  2. Nick

    It’s ironic talking about the role men play with regards to women’s safety, when the same voices applaud a man playing against women at a sporting venue 200m from where Ms. Dixon was murdered.

  3. wivenhoe

    I’m wondering how many other families across Australia are helping out in this way too, a

    Elizabeth, I am sure that there are many, many, Families helping out, or there would be many more people on the street, I am presently stretched to breaking point trying to help my divorced daughter feed my grandchildren, which I continue to do, because she works at anything she can find to earn money, short of prostitution, but the ends just do not meet. The power bills are killing her, but she continues fighting, so, like you, I do what I can, but I am running out of options as well, so I wait to see what the next election brings.

  4. Tel

    The Pendle Hill Meat Market still supplies plastic bags for free… good ones too, and they aren’t into any stupid pretend-to-help-the-environment either. Good salt of the Earth people, selling food you want to eat. Shop there.

    They stock bacon, in all styles and sizes. They sell Bindari Beef fillets (and cheaper cuts which can also be useful). Huge array of cheeses, imported sauces, pickled herrings, Maltese sausage… that excellent Sanpellegrino Chinotto drink which tastes hard to describe but nice. Sorry Grigs, but it’s better quality than Aldi.

    They even sell bags of frozen Chico Rolls including the little paper wrappers, which you can microwave to warm them up and then fry in left over bacon fat until delicious golden… talk to yourself like a fish and chip shop owner voice while sliding it into the paper cover. It doesn’t get better than that.

  5. stackja

    I don’t shop at Coles/Woolworths. I don’t need plastic bags. I use old bushwalking shoulder bag. Green policies are stupid.

  6. Gary

    I think its cool in the highly competitive Cat, people still find time to share experiences.

  7. Bruce in WA

    Dropped our daughter off at T4 Perth Domestic Airport. Parked for 45 minutes while we had coffee/said goodbye.

    Parking fee was $13.00. Oh, and PLUS 7 cents because I paid for it with tap-n-go on the card.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Very good points there CL about private confessions being simply hearsay in legal terms.

    Calli, on plakkie bags, we use double-bags to bag up Attapuss’s used litter. Very neat and organized, handles tied into a bow-knot on top, and into the big outside bin it goes then for disposal like any other garbage. We shall have to buy some bags for that now. And I will not use stinky old ‘cloth’ bags for food nor re-use constantly those disintegrating ‘single use’ bags. We will buy new ‘single use’ every time for most of the shopping. Like many other people. I’ll see how they go for Attapuss’s leavings too. Grocery shopping costs to rise regularly by the continual cost of new bags.

    It’s a plot.

  9. Tel

    So then: the law cannot be enforced, is pointless, will lead to false charges against priests and cannot possibly lead to any convictions.

    It can be enforced, but not in the way you imagine (worse actually).

    Do the research on how Stalin instituted a mandatory reporting scheme with quotas, so anyone failing to dob in their neighbours was in turn guilty of crimes against the state. Once the system is in place it can then be extended to pretty much anything that might go wrong… blame the other guy before he blames you. It’s not intended to operate as a justice system, the purpose is to be a control system.

    Remember: social justice = socialist justice.

  10. Snoopy

    Why haven’t they moved from copying to innovating like their economic predecessors such as Japan?

    Hey, they invented Weibo and Alibaba.

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They even sell bags of frozen Chico Rolls including the little paper wrappers, which you can microwave to warm them up and then fry in left over bacon fat until delicious golden… talk to yourself like a fish and chip shop owner voice while sliding it into the paper cover. It doesn’t get better than that.

    Yum. You’ve won me over, Tel.
    Pendle Hill’s a bit far away but.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dropped our daughter off at T4 Perth Domestic Airport. Parked for 45 minutes while we had coffee/said goodbye.

    Ned Kelly was hanged, but his descendants are alive, well, and charging for parking at Perth Airport.

  13. cohenite

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #2741915, posted on June 19, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    Outstanding; and not a peep from our wretched media who are distracted by the poor kids in concentration camps bone tossed by the demorats. This Senator Graham guy is top shelf.

  14. calli

    That place looks awesome, Tel. Brisket on the bone…mmmm. Might pop in next time I’m in Sydney Town.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am presently stretched to breaking point trying to help my divorced daughter feed my grandchildren

    Good on you, Wivenhoe. Your tale is amazing and inspiring. These effing politicians sit back and gloat over their ‘save the planet’ madness while ordinary people struggle to keep warm and eat. A pox on them all.

  16. Peter Castieau

    and Baldrick!

    How the bloody hell are ya?

    Love your work.

  17. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mainstream it now is. A woman married to a wife. The odious Butler on her hind trotters in the Adjournment Debate waxing ecstatic about the marriage of Jo and Jill. Only four in the gallery all of that grim ilk. ‘The photos were just so beautiful, both Tanya and I were in tears.” The Parliament of the Nation.

  18. cohenite

    Cruz’s interrogation even better; what fucking ongoing investigation is Wray mumbling about; it must be comey.

  19. Baldrick

    Cheers custard 😁

  20. Baldrick

    Cheers custard 🍻

  21. cohenite

    Price and Bolt re the liberal branch party biffo; apparently Coptics vs muzzies.

  22. Frank

    Dark Mofo, for those that prefer their counter culture to be state sanctioned. This edgy stuff really starts to get on your tits after a while.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Price and Bolt re the liberal branch party biffo; apparently Coptics vs muzzies.

    Import the third world, get third world politics.

  24. Cpt Seahawks

    I am so frustrated and annoyed at Coles and Woolworths and IGA getting rid of plastic bags. Frustrated because I can’t do anything about it and annoyed because their inane virtue signalling is based on a lie they’ve swallowed like the unthinking irrational illogical morons they are.

    People will now have to buy plastic bags for their bins and these cost more so their virtue signalling is actually based on increasing profits. And the gen population swallows the “ better for the ‘vironment” lie.

    People can be very stupid. A hippy in front of me at IGA today paid 20c for a normal plastic bag .. Voluntarily… They don’t charge for bags at this location yet, they don’t have the new bags yet. The checkout chick just looked astonished at the foolishness as she dumped the coin in the charity collection.

  25. Robber Baron

    Trump is the greatest president since Washington.

    And we have a shit-stained wet-wipe as PM.

    We are so rooted it’s not funny.

  26. C.L.

    It amazes and saddens me that these police state chieftains routinely tell the people’s elected representatives in committee that, no, they will not answer their questions.

  27. C.L.

    Ted Cruz is another we were too hard on, I guess.
    Man has a brilliant mind.
    He also humiliated that vomitous wanker Jimmy Kimmel shooting hoops.
    Kimmel didn’t like it either.

  28. Geriatric Mayfly

    Parking fee was $13.00. Oh, and PLUS 7 cents because I paid for it with tap-n-go on the card.

    That’s the trouble when a commercial enterprises sit in a paddocks. Every square inch must earn its keep. Think of the poor buggers with houses along Kensington Palace Gardens W8, who could be stumped anything up to ₤6000 a square foot and there is probably a by-law that says they can’t even take in washing, to make those inches pay.

  29. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Import the third world, get third world politics.

    3rd world shitholification

  30. Robber Baron

    I’m glad I’m no longer a member of the Turnbull Party.

    I’m voting for Labor. Turnbull and his party must be extinguished from the face of the Earth.

  31. Gab

    We will buy new ‘single use’ every time for most of the shopping.

    Where are you going to buy these bags, Lizzie, They’re banned.

  32. mh

    Cruz and Graham have sniffed the wind and have realised that Republican voters won’t put up with them if they are not fully behind Trump.

  33. cohenite

    On Q&A last night one lilly campbell of the socialist alliance in full flight at 38.40; watch and weep, scream or do something because this country is rotting around you:

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4846357.htm

  34. Turnip

    every time I have gone through the self serve check out recently I have accidentally found a batch of bags attached to my shopping. Very strange. I now have hundreds in my boot. Not sure what to do with them.

  35. mh

    Bolt and Trump discussing bag ban right now on 2gb

  36. Gab

    every time I have gone through the self serve check out recently I have accidentally found a batch of bags attached to my shopping.

    Thanks, I now have a sudden urge to only use the self-help checkout.

  37. Megan

    Gab…you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3. I just peel off half a dozen before I walk into the store. I hate being made to do stuff that makes shopping harder than it needs to be.

  38. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    From the earliest days of the Obama administration, the Obama/Holder/Lynch Justice Department protected political allies from justice. A slam-dunk case of voter intimidation by the New Black Panther Party during the 2008 presidential election was inexplicably dropped, resulting in the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights declaring in the summer of 2010 that there was evidence of “possible unequal administration of justice” by the Justice Department. Obama also blocked a corruption probe that implicated former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for bribery. He also illegally fired an inspector general who was investigating an Obama friend and donor. Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder worked in concert to protect each other. Holder would stonewall congressional investigations into Obama administration corruption and Obama would assert executive privilege to keep damaging information away from the eyes of investigators, such as crucial documents in the Fast and Furious investigation.

    There are dozens of scandals in the Obama administration that never resulted in any of the key players being prosecuted. No special counsels were ever appointed. By the end of the Obama administration, they’d been able to get away with so much because the media refused to give anything damaging to Obama the coverage it deserved for eight years.

  39. Habib

    Why just SA Labor and boozy boy? What about a Uncle Milty, Bob Collins, Keith Wright……….

  40. Megan

    Mind you…if Officeworks have sniffed the wind the bag price may have recently increased.

  41. Gab

    Gab…you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3. I just peel off half a dozen before I walk into the store. I hate being made to do stuff that makes shopping harder than it needs to be.

    Just be careful not to scrunch up the bags as the checkout chicks refuse to use them. I kid you not.

  42. calli

    Gab…you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3.

    Owned by Wesfarmers, who also own [drumroll] Coles.

    How virtuous.

  43. cohenite

    Megan

    #2741976, posted on June 19, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Gab…you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3.

    Is that right, the same bags? I use about 4 a day to pick up my dog’s poops, 2 bull mastiffs.

  44. Fisky

    It’s very strange how the Left demand jail for Pell, yet want the entire Rotherham police department to be exonerated.

  45. Rae

    The Great Plastic Checkout Bag Outrage of 2018!

    LOL

  46. candy

    I’m voting for Labor. Turnbull and his party must be extinguished from the face of the Earth.

    I don’t know about that.
    I was amazed how quickly Turnbull and Shorten found their way to the vigil for the lass who was murdered.
    Cynical but I can’t help but think it was to be seen as compassionate, with a gentle glow of candlelight around their sad faces.
    It reminded me of Julie Bishop and T. Plibersek at the vigil for the drug dealers facing execution. Once the chaps were killed, we never heard about it anymore. Ever. All gone, no sad faces anymore. I think the boys Turnbull and Shorten wanted to be like the girls, in flattering candlelight and looking so compassionate.

  47. Boambee John

    Zippy at 2052

    Obama also blocked a corruption probe that implicated former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for bribery. He also illegally fired an inspector general who was investigating an Obama friend and donor.

    I remember the incident well. m0nty was outraged, he went on about it for weeks. Oh, no, wait, perhaps that was someone else!

  48. Gab

    I’m voting for any party other than Liberal, Labor and Greenfilth Party.

  49. candy

    The Great Plastic Checkout Bag Outrage of 2018!

    I asked a lady at Coles checkout the situation about the bags, what to do, how much, which type can I use. I aimed to be polite and respectful, just wanted to know about bags. She was a bit grumpy and short in her manner so I apologised for bothering her.
    I think they are under stress over the issue, maybe because who knows what to do to replace plastic bags and keep asking the staff about it.

  50. Rae

    you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3. I just peel off half a dozen before I walk into the store.

    Could be interesting shopping for you soon, when the checkout lady says “Sorry, But I cannot put your purchases into those single use plastic bags.” Or when the lady monitoring the self-checkout section says “Sorry, but single use plastic bags cannot be used here.”

  51. cohenite

    This plastic bag business is symbolic of what’s happening to this country; little accumulating gestures like this which satisfies the green/commies, makes money for the craven capitalist lackeys and allows the shallow pollies to preen. And the poor punters are stuffed again, another inconvenience and punishment.

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s pretty clear that the left corrupt everything they touch.

    The left is not a valid political organisation, it is a anti-capitalist ideology of legitimising criminality at all levels of society.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    If at all possible you should never ever shop at Coles or Woolworths. They are disgraceful companies.

    Booze should only ever be bought from independent liquor stores too.

  54. Gab

    cohenite
    #2741992, posted on June 19, 2018 at 9:05 pm
    This plastic bag business is symbolic of what’s happening to this country; little accumulating gestures like this which satisfies the green/commies, makes money for the craven capitalist lackeys and allows the shallow pollies to preen. And the poor punters are stuffed again, another inconvenience and punishment.

    Exactly. It’s a plague that is infesting everything.

  55. Gab

    It’ll be interesting to see how Coles at Box Hill handles not providing plastic shopping bags for the Asian population there.

  56. Makka

    The placcy bag ban is a retrograde step for the environment, they’re genuinely multi-use. You can use them to suffocate idiot leftists, then re-use to dispose of the body parts.

    Dexter!

  57. JC

    cohenite
    #2741992, posted on June 19, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    This plastic bag business is symbolic of what’s happening to this country; little accumulating gestures like this which satisfies the green/commies, makes money for the craven capitalist lackeys and allows the shallow pollies to preen. And the poor punters are stuffed again, another inconvenience and punishment.

    It’s a classic example of corporatism. When people, usually leftwingers ask how is it possible for the fascists and Nazis to be socialists when they were in cahoots with big business… Well here is exhibit A.

  58. Gab

    Oh I see Rae is desperately trying to get attention. Somebody throw him a bone.

  59. Rae

    The placcy bag ban is a retrograde step for the environment, they’re genuinely multi-use. You can use them to suffocate idiot leftists, then re-use to dispose of the body parts.

    Dexter!

    Nah. Dexter used drop sheets to cover the walls and floor while he exsanguinated felons. And he left the bodies bloodless but in one piece.

  60. calli

    “It seems that shoppers have generally fallen into three camps — those who already use their own bags and support the ban, those who don’t already use their own bags but still support the ban, and those who don’t already use their own bags and don’t support the ban,” said Mr Downes.

    I’m struggling to think of another category. Apart from the mandatory “transitioner”.

  61. zyconoclast

    Gab…you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3. I just peel off half a dozen before I walk into the store. I hate being made to do stuff that makes shopping harder than it needs to be.

    I can’t find them

    https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/facilities-supplies

  62. Makka

    And he left the bodies bloodless but in one piece.

    You’re quite wrong.

  63. JC

    She was a bit grumpy and short in her manner so I apologised for bothering her.

    Candy, that’s your mistake right there. Never apologize and always escalate.

    If you think they’re stressed out, just remember two things. It’s their job to be asked questions and be courteous to customers. Secondly, they chose that job and they can choose to leave if they don’t like it.

  64. JC

    Gargs

    You’re going to get caught and you will go to jail for very long time. Remember that.

  65. Gab

    you can buy 250 of the gray bags at Officeworks for $3. I just peel off half a dozen before I walk into the store. I hate being made to do stuff that makes shopping harder than it needs to be.

    I can’t find them

    Megan – you could have a little interesting side business here.

  66. Makka

    Dexter’s MO , Grigsie. FFS get something right.

    Step 7. Disposal
    Ultimately, Dexter dismembers the bodies of his victims, places the sections inside biodegradable garbage bags, adds rocks as weights from the dock where he keeps his boat, and seals the bags with duct tape. He then takes the wrapped bags out on his boat and disposes of them by dumping them overboard into the ocean at a defined location.

    http://dexter.wikia.com/wiki/Dexter%27s_modus_operandi

  67. mh

    The chick at woolies showed me the 15 cent plastic bags. I told her I would most likely be buying them, but they would then get thrown straight in the bin when I got home as they are not practical for other uses.

    Or I might dump them in Moreton Bay.

  68. Snoopy

    I can’t find them

    https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/facilities-supplies

    Search for ‘singlet bags’.

    250 for $2. Clearance special.

    Sad.

  69. zyconoclast

    Here ya go, Zyco.

    You are a very good girl!

  70. Rae

    And he left the bodies bloodless but in one piece.

    You’re quite wrong.

    Maybe partially incorrect. Perhaps he did some post mortem dismemberment. It’s been a long time since I watched the series.

  71. Gab

    Oh, Calli killed that idea then 🙁

  72. cohenite

    This michael spence, vc of sydney uni in response to the little socialist’s question reveals everything you need to know about the elites: charming and proud of the little creatures diatribe against our society; and scared shitless; at 40 minutes:

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4846357.htm

  73. johanna

    calli
    #2741798, posted on June 19, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    Ellis’ Palm Beach house burned down during the 93-94 summer bushfires. It was uninsured. That day, he launched his satirical book on John Hewson.

    I recall his dismay at having lost everything. That was the summer the Royal National Park burned out, Sydney was ringed by fire, and a poor Como woman perished in her swimming pool.

    I remember that, as well.

    I had been going to a Burning Palms shack courtesy of a friend for a long time. A raging bushfire had been through, and the ferns and shrubs and so on were all sprouting like all get out.

    This little piece of NSW was not overpowered by eucalypts. I saw and heard lyre birds on the track down to the beach, as well.

    As mentioned in an earlier comment, I am wearing my Burning Palms SLSC sweater indoors to combat global warming. 😉

  74. H B Bear

    I can see why Mother was so disappointed with Graegooglery.

  75. calli

    I find it amusing that one arm of the Wesfarmers octopus is banning the very item that another arm is selling.

  76. zyconoclast

    I noticed there is a clearance sign next to the bags.
    Perhaps they are going to be discontinued.

  77. cohenite

    A special motion initiated by Liberal party members to fast-track approval of applications of white South African farmers for asylum in Australia was rejected by its Federal Council after a former immigration minister interjected.

    The former immigration minister was Ruddock. These fools have no fucking idea what is around the corner.

  78. OneWorldGovernment

    Top Ender

    Starship Troopers could be made into a 5 season series.

    It doesn’t lend itself to a movie type structure as there is too much to cover.

    In a series you wouldn’t even need to show ‘the enemy’ as such as, too me, the book was about showing the development of an elite spirit.

    Esprit de corps if you will and I think that is the main point of Heinlen’s work.

  79. JC

    and scared shitless; at 40 minutes:

    Where did you detect his fear, as it’s not obvious. Are you mind reading again, Albert.

    I saw him as a slick, want to be liked, pushing all the leftist buttons douchebag.

  80. Gab

    Somebody needs to tell that idiot michael spence, vc of Sydney Uni that Western Civilization invented universities. And funded them long before government.

    He probably thinks muslims did.

  81. cohenite

    I saw him as a slick, want to be liked, pushing all the leftist buttons douchebag.

    Related to you.

  82. H B Bear

    The former immigration minister was Ruddock.

    Ruddock, Fat Mandy and The Father of Middle Class Welfare cabinet own the Africans running amok in Victoriastan. The next Lieboral generation of Fraser’s Lebs. Of course the mushrooms will have to wait another 20 years for the Cabinet papers to see what the DOI had to say about this lot.

  83. Snoopy

    The meme for the next ice age has been chosen.

    Barrington Tops winter wonderland sparks sightseeing rush to Hunter Valley

  84. JC

    Related to you.

    Untrue, but lets not digress. Albert, focus.
    How did you come away from that thinking he’s scared?

  85. JC

    I am wearing my Burning Palms SLSC sweater indoors to combat global warming. 😉

    Bullshit, Johanna. The club wouldn’t possibly carry your size.

  86. None

    Robber Baron
    #2741959, posted on June 19, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    Trump is the greatest president since Washington.

    And we have a shit-stained wet-wipe as PM.

    We are so rooted it’s not funny.

    Yep.

  87. miltonf

    The former immigration minister was Ruddock.
    Ruddock, Fat Mandy and The Father of Middle Class Welfare cabinet own the Africans running amok in Victoriastan. The next Lieboral generation of Fraser’s Lebs. Of course the mushrooms will have to wait another 20 years for the Cabinet papers to see what the DOI had to say about this lot.

    I find myself hating the Libs the Labor people hated them after the dismissal. Not that I have any intention of voting ALP. Thinking about Howard tonight, I remembered how thick he was with Bush and BLiar.

  88. Jo Smyth

    Like a lot of people I use the plastic supermarket bags as bin liners for rubbish. When the announcement was made that the bags were going to be done away with I started collecting extra when I shopped. I reckon I have about 2 years supply.

  89. Makka

    I find myself hating the Libs the Labor people hated them after the dismissal. Not that I have any intention of voting ALP.

    Destroying the Liberal Party is our only hope for a better Australia.

  90. None

    It was put up yesterday by that green Green Steele-John, whom everyone likes because he is handicapped and gay. He arrived in the Chamber of Misfits as an afterthought, because someone else fell foul of the citizenship rules.

    So homosexuals continue to be over-represented in Australian Parliament. No wonder Penny Wong is perptually angry. How many lesbians do we have? 3? 4? If we put a quota system in, we’d have to kick a few of the GLBTQanytings out. I could get to like quotas.

  91. None

    Ruddock, Fat Mandy and The Father of Middle Class Welfare cabinet own the Africans running amok in Victoriastan. The next Lieboral generation of Fraser’s Lebs. Of course the mushrooms will have to wait another 20 years for the Cabinet papers to see what the DOI had to say about this lot.

    Fat Mandy owns most of them. Remember when Kevin Andrews raised the alarm about certain African groups and all the luvvies howled him down? I want those roving home-invading Africans with machettes to target the luvvies so they can start learning the meaning of consequences.

  92. miltonf

    So is it true that Craig Kelly’s been done over? If so I hope he runs as n independent. I hear they’re (The GROUP)also gunning for Abbott but I think they not be game to knock him off yet.

  93. Top Ender

    Starship Troopers could be made into a 5 season series.

    OWG, you are quite right.

    The reflective nature of the book might come through nicely. Interspersed with Bug hunt action sequences.

    We should pitch it to Netflix.

  94. JC

    12 Strong is a really good movie, although I thought Hensworth a little too weak for the major role.

    If you think back to the start of the Afghan war after 911, it’s the story behind the pics we saw of special forces dudes riding horseback around Afghan. It’s an interesting story, as I think the American participation in that war was offering air bombing and special forces assistance to the anti-Taliban groups who hated one another and would immediately stop fighting the Taliban if they saw each other… as one dude said in the movie. Anyways their mission was to give co-ordinates to the air force which would then B52 the shit out of them. Lots of Taliban killed so I highly recommended.

  95. Habib

    Seeing as I’ll not be able to cart my crap off in a plastic bag I might as well go shopping in my overcoat, no real need for the checkout. Bonus!

  96. miltonf

    Fat Mandy owns most of them. Maybe but I suspect that she was just a sock puppet for the senior pubes in ‘her’ department.

  97. None

    Destroying the Liberal Party is our only hope for a better Australia.

    As long as you destroy the Nationals with them.

  98. JC

    stop fighting the Taliban if they saw each other… and kill each other first

  99. Top Ender

    Two stories in a row on ABC News at present:

    Ice addict who stabbed tourist thought number plates were asking him to commit crimes

    A man who stabbed a backpacker in the neck during a bushwalk through a national park near Adelaide believed there were “secret encoded messages” in car number plates asking him to commit crimes, a court has heard.

    and

    Driver ‘took off in his underwear’ before fatal highway crash, murder trial told

    Shaun Southern was “off his head” when he drove his 4WD the wrong way down a WA highway and hit another car, killing its driver, his defence lawyer tells the Supreme Court in Perth.

    This is of course a social problem, not one of selfish bastards doing whatever drugs they liked and then killing people. Legalise drugs now, say the Greens. Link

  100. Gab

    Officeworks appears to be out of stock of those singlet shopping bags.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I can see why Mother was so disappointed with Graegooglery.

    I did tell Graegooglery, that, if he has problems with Mother, just push her to one side of the plate, and finish his vegetables.

  102. Old School Conservative

    Cohenite’s link to Q&A has an interesting sidelight.
    A little socialist asks a question which includes a statement that Abbott is a racist.
    Tony Jones issues a mild rebuke in two parts – the statement was not part of the agreed question to be asked; and there is no proof Abbott is a racist!

    No proof!??? ie he probably is but is hasn’t been discovered yet.
    What a goof bag Jones is.

  103. Fisky

    The Southern Poverty Law Center is a fraudulent “civil rights” organisation that colludes with Google, Facebook, etc, to shut down free speech. So naturally the US “libertarian” movement supports them.

    reason
    @reason
    More
    The Southern Poverty Law Center’s apology to Maajid Nawaz is bad news for free speech

  104. Fisky

    Mike Cernovich suggests that the SPLC were not so much worried about losing a defamation case, but were really desperate to avoid “discovery”. This makes a lot of sense.

    Mike Cernovich
    🇺🇸

    Verified account

    @Cernovich
    12h
    12 hours ago

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    The SPLC:

    – Staffed by lawyers
    – Connected to best law firms in the world
    – Has over $500 million in cash on hand

    They didn’t have to settle, they knew all of their options and had cash to fight.

    Which means…

    They are covering up something evil and massive.

  105. .

    Fisky
    #2741883, posted on June 19, 2018 at 6:45 pm
    Very interesting prediction from Mike Norman, a well known trader who believes in MMT. He is claiming that the Fed’s increase in rates is going to RAISE inflation. I find this contention to be quite strange, and his explanation does not make sense.

    Does anyone know enough about monetary economics to account for how an interest rate hike could possibly raise inflation?

    This would be quite odd because feral Keynesians would be rejecting the IS-LM model. They’re saying the LM relationship would be inverted.

    The IS-LM model not working as normal would be predicated on the MV = PY equation not working. This *can* happen in extreme circumstances, but these would be extreme situations as either a banking collapse (leverage evaporating shrinking the credit multiplier), QE or hyperinflation.

    If both the IS and LM curves are monotonically declining, then the system is unstable and a small change in policy would result in a relatively large change in output.

    Back in 2009, US fiscal policy saw deflation occur, as it depressed the economy so much. Strange things can happen but it would be instructive to see why that is so.

    It is quite difficult to reason why a higher interest rate would lead to lower purchasing power unless it is a claim that raising rates would create scarcity but without excess capacity. The implication is that the US requires a rapid rate of new capital investment and old capital is not fungible in any way. Why the capital stock would be so sensitive to rates in this manner is unfathomable. The causal mechanism is the wrong way around and not physically possible.

    The only possible reason for this (net effect, not the causal mechanism being reversed generally) is that the US economy is on a knife-edge and a change in policy will cause a massive collapse as there are so much restructuring and as a large proportion of firms close, the capital cannot be transferred or transformed, it is simply depreciated away as waste as it was not capable of being used in other industries or for other purposes.

    Then that begs the question why there are so many structural imbalances, with production specialised to such a high degree of unsustainable activity.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The reflective nature of the book might come through nicely. Interspersed with Bug hunt action sequences.

    Thought it interesting that the name of the camp where the rookies were trained was Camp Currie – Sir Arthur Currie, was along with Sir John Monash, one of the more competent Allied generals to emerge during world War 1 – and both men were militiamen, rather then Regulars…

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Stalin: Waiting For Hitler 1929-1941

    My compliments, OWG and thank you. I’m bookmarking those links to watch down the track. I remember a revisionist school of history that argued that Hitler struck against Stalin, while Stalin planned a first strike?

  108. cohenite

    Tony Jones issues a mild rebuke in two parts – the statement was not part of the agreed question to be asked; and there is no proof Abbott is a racist!

    No proof!??? ie he probably is but is hasn’t been discovered yet.
    What a goof bag Jones is.

    It’s actionable, the imputation is real and that ‘disclaimer’ by jones does not create an innocent disseminator defence. Abbott has no balls though and that personifies the problem with the conservatives in Australia; they are too polite and play by the rules; Trump doesn’t and that’s why he’s making a fight of it against the banshees.

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Imams slam Liberals motion to relocate embassy to Jerusalem

    The Australian
    9:27PM June 19, 2018
    Rhian Deutrom
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @Rhi_lani

    A proposal by Liberal Party members to relocate the Australian Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem has been slammed by the Australian National Imams Council as offensive and poorly timed, after it was introduced at the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

    More than 100 Liberal MPs met in Sydney for the party’s 60th annual federal council this month, where they were presented with a controversial motion to follow the US by moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

    The suggestion was met with strong resistance from Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop, who stressed that the federal government had no plans to go through with the proposal.

    The motion was passed at 43 votes to 37.

    Under Liberal Party regulations, motions passed at the federal council are not binding and usually have no impact on policy, but the Australian National Imams Council was not impressed by the sentiment.

    A statement by the ANIC strongly condemned the proposal and accused the government of picking sides in the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

    “The Australian Muslim community has taken extreme offence to this resolution at a time when the community was celebrating their Eid El-Fitr weekend, which marked the end of the holy month of Ramadan,” the statement said.

    According to the statement, the Muslim community expected the government to take an impartial stance on the conflict between Israel and Palestine, “rather than being biased towards one side”.

    The Muslim claim to Jerusalem, as a holy city, is based on the story that the Prophet Mohammed DREAMED one night, that he and the Archangel Gabriel, had flown from Mecca to Jerusalem, on a winged horse. There, they met several prophets, including Jesus, before ascending to Heaven by a ladder.

    I’d be questioning the good prophets heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, before I took any Muslim claim to Jerusalem seriously.

  110. Oh come on

    Lots of interesting stuff about Stalin as an individual. And interesting anecdotes. Well before Barbarossa was executed – around the time of the Soviet/Nazi invasion of Poland – a Soviet adjutant noticed on their model battlefield that there were a number of Wehrmacht units on the Soviet side of the newly-conquered Polish territory. Stalin summoned a German diplomat, who told him – truthfully – that they were there to kill a bunch of Poles who were retreating eastward, and the Nazis would withdraw once they had finished the job. Stalin dismissed him and then attacked the Wehrmacht units, who responded in kind. Hitler, who was actually in Poland at the time, ordered the Wehrmacht to withdraw, and they did – but they beat a fighting retreat. So the Soviet and the Nazi forces were attacking each other *while* the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact was in force.

    Another interesting bit of history described the antecedents to the Winter War. Stalin was concerned that Leningrad was close enough to Finnish territory that it was susceptible to destruction by WW2-era artillery if it were based in Finland. He felt (probably correctly) that tiny Finland’s neutral status was tenuous and could easily be altered by the intervention of a larger global power (as it subsequently was). Stalin offered the Finns a deal – a land swap that would place Leningrad well beyond artillery range, and the Finns would receive an equivalent patch of Soviet territory in return. It was a proper deal from Stalin’s perspective – on this occasion, he was negotiating in good faith and was pretty much offering the Finns apples for apples. The Finns, with their experience of being a part of Imperial Russia, didn’t trust him, and rejected the deal. Stalin could not understand why the Finns were turning down what he saw as a reasonable offer, he got angry, and he invaded. First, it was catastrophic for the Soviets, but the Finns were ultimately defeated badly.

    But a great many miscalculations – some very grave indeed – were subsequently made about the Soviets by the Nazis and the Allies based on that initial Finnish miscalculation.

  111. None

    I’d be questioning the good prophets heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, before I took any Muslim claim to Jerusalem seriously.

    There’s been a $1000 000 reward out for years for anyone who can find Jerusalem in the Koran. The Jerusalem schtick is another Arafat invention. People may want to scoff at Bible bashing Christians but at least they know what’s in their holy books even if their interpretations are sometimes wonky. The ignorance of the average Mulsim believer however as to what is in their holy books as well as their resort to fantasies, is astonishing.

  112. Mike Cernovich suggests that the SPLC were not so much worried about losing a defamation case, but were really desperate to avoid “discovery”. This makes a lot of sense.

    Indeed. How does a ‘poverty law center’ amass 500M?

  113. Oh come on

    Oh, and poor old Neville Chamberlain. Of course, a figure of mockery, cowardice and appeasement. Privately, his argument was essentially what else was he supposed to do? In 1938, western Europe freezing out the Nazis would have benefited the Soviets more than anyone else. Chamberlain felt he had a choice between an arrangement with the Nazis that they *might* stick by, and a scenario whereby the Soviets gobbled up central Europe. Chamberlain was basically doing what he could to avoid the Cold War status quo, which happened anyway.

    Some people are just really unlucky, I guess.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We have been watching ‘The Last Kingdom’ on Netflix, a tale of how Wessex under King Alfred managed to hold a line against Danish encroachment coming down England from the north. Saxons and Danes were of similar warrior culture heritage, but in the south the Saxons had by this time become Christians, as had the people of East Anglia and Northumbria (the Angles) who were now being pulled back to heathenism.

    Alfred was a sickly king in body but stern of mind, and very much influenced by ideas of Romanitas and literacy. He organized a proper defense of Wessex and pushed back the Danish Guthrum to a defined line above which was the Danelaw. He also flew the flag for Christianity and thus for joining the wider European cultural and trading world to which Christianity gave entry. We’ve nearly finished the first series of 8 episodes. I find it quite gripping and rather well done, evoking the two warrior cultures and the religious struggles of the period. Alfred is presented as a canny strategist who can be quite devious. The cultural tensions between the Danes, the Saxons and the Britons of Wales and Cornwall are shown via the motif of a Saxon warrior (a sexy hero) brought up as a Dane but becoming Saxon again when seeking Alfred’s protection, a warrior true who has no compunction about turning his coat and attacking the Britons as a Dane when it suited his needs. Shows the nature of the internecine warfare of the times. Pacey and well told. Recommended for a winter’s eve with a spiced mulled wine and some cheese.

  115. areff

    Thanks for the tip , Lizzie. I’m just off to bed and will give the first episode a look from the adjoining pillow.

  116. Fisky

    Trump has realised that there is no point trying to placate people who hate you. Double down!

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

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    Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!

  117. C.L.

    Fairfax continues its ugly desecration:
    After Eurydice, what should men do?
    Tell their women not to walk home alone, of course.

  118. Makka

    Speaking of Netflix, just finished the last Ray Donovan season.

    There should be a new saying to replace “more trouble than Gungadin”. Ray Donovan gets so deep in complicated deadly shyte it makes your head hurt.It’s certainly worth a watch, great cast , plot and good writing. Jon Voight is epic IMO.

    I’ll take a look at The Last Kingdom, thanks Liz. I was looking for the next one.

  119. Makka

    and a scenario whereby the Soviets gobbled up central Europe.

    The Sovs were busy destroying their Officer class in ’48 weren’t they? Can’t see them being about to gobble up chunks of Europe.

  120. Makka

    Oops;
    The Sovs were busy destroying their Officer class in ’38 weren’t they?

  121. None

    That photo of the Eurydice “vigil” that’s doing the rounds. Where all these people are standing around in a circle staring at the spot where she was raped and killed covered with a few flowers and candles, some even with mobile phones raised to take a photo. That photo is seriously creepy.

    In a real vigil you pray. In this one you take photos of where a woman you don’t know was raped. What do they plan to do with those photos? Pull them out at the pub – hey here’s where some chick got raped and killed? It’s sick. Just evidence of hollow people with hollow souls.

  122. Fisky

    There’s been a $1000 000 reward out for years for anyone who can find Jerusalem in the Koran.

    Same goes for “Mecca”. There’s a place called “Bakka”, mentioned a couple of times, which people claim is really a reference to Mecca. But you’d think the Koran would extend a little bit more on this hugely important city.

  123. Makka

    Indeed. How does a ‘poverty law center’ amass 500M?

    Tip: Soros was a significant donor in 2017

  124. twostix

    – hey here’s where some chick got raped and killed? It’s sick. Just evidence of hollow people with hollow souls

    The empty rituals of the bugman class.

  125. twostix

    Coles and woolworths know that by abolishing plastic vags families will stop doing fortnightly food shops and come to the stores more often.

    They are cnts.

  126. Makka

    In a real vigil you pray.

    Not if you are atheist. Hollow indeed.

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Trey Gowdy opens up in the House interview of Horowitz.
    Hitting every ball into the next postcode.
    Doesn’t miss Comey.
    Doesn’t miss McCabe.
    Ignores Strzok. … yo are irrelevant, boy.

  128. JC

    Speaking of Netflix, just finished the last Ray Donovan season.

    It was a terrible season and hopefully the last. The prior seasons were very good, but the flashbacks to his wife became laughable. It was like the writers had run out of material.

  129. twostix

    Grigory has little understanding of the difficulty not having anything to place a fortnights worth of a familys groceries in will place on mums as his weekly shop consists of a tin of tomato soup for himself and…himself.

  130. None

    Coles and woolworths know that by abolishing plastic vags families will stop doing fortnightly food shops and come to the stores more often.

    We’ve had a plastic bag ban here for a few years now. It’s a pain because even if you buy the $1 shopping bags you inevitably forget to bring them with you or you bring a couple and then find you need three because there were a few specials worth a bulk buy…yadda yadda. Consequently you end up with hundreds of plastic bags at home and then still end up buying more for your bins.

    The plastic bag ban has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with money.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    And the Dems open up with Himey from Get Smart.

  132. None

    Fisky
    #2742074, posted on June 19, 2018 at 11:59 pm

    Trump has realised that there is no point trying to placate people who hate you. Double down!

    Not just doubling down, he’s giving them sweet serves of the truth.

  133. JC

    And the Dems open up with Himey from Get Smart.

    Funnily enough, Himey was often the smartest guy in the room.

  134. Makka

    It was a terrible season and hopefully the last.

    Bullshit. The Russians, the boxing Champ, the Priest, Micky ….. it was a good season with some tame bits but that’s because it was so fast elsewhere comparatively. He made up with his daughter.

    You’re just a grumpy bastard.

  135. twostix

    UNDERCOVER security officers at Coles are catching “hundreds” of self-service checkout thieves every week, but a shocking number of Aussies are still swiping groceries and getting off scot-free thanks to a “get out of jail free card”.

    Hahaha suck shit!

    So they make us engage in menial labour, then take away bags, expect those numbers to rise you cocks.

  136. BorisG

    I’d be questioning the good prophets heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, before I took any Muslim claim to Jerusalem seriously.

    Valid or not, no Muslim claim to (East) Jerusalem is a reason not to have an embassy to Israel in West Jerusalem.

    broadly speaking, what’s the role of this council if its resolution have no effect on policy?

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Himey has 5 minutes.
    He spends 90 seconds on the travails of Hillary…. then … wow, there’s a squirrel riding a unicorn (wetback kiddies in detention).

  138. JC

    Makka

    Do you always have to be oppositional, FFS? The last season was written by a bunch of LA wimps. I haven’t looked, but if I have a mind I’d bet 5 bucks the writers or a good number of them changed in the last season. It was a Ray Donovan version of SJW season.

    And don’t give me fucking lip as I plugged this series from the first episode. Go look. In fact, I’m thankful that because it was, for a while, teamed up with the Q&A time slot, I began watching Donovan thereby cutting that awful addiction to Q&A.

  139. Knuckle Dragger

    Absolutely ripping. The Poms are 1/160 after 20 overs and are projected to make well over 400, which will of course win them the series.

    This really does make baby Jesus cry. Tears of rage. I’ve still got my phone on waiting for the callup. Weakened bowling attack or not, to win the toss and decide to field first is pure idiocy.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2742075, posted on June 20, 2018 at 12:01 am

    Fairfax continues its ugly desecration:
    After Eurydice, what should men do?
    Tell their women not to walk home alone, of course.

    And refuse to accept collective responsibility for individual actions of others.
    I’ve spent bits of today on Facebook asking if all aboriginal men should accept responsibility for the rape of two year olds, or whether Muslims in Lakemba should be blamed for beheadings in Syria or whether all mothers need to acknowledge their role in the murder of 8 kids in Cairns.
    The enemy ceases to engage.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    JC.
    Not unusual.
    Shows generally run about 3-4 seasons before they become repetitive and tired or, worse, jump the shark and go all arty or lefty lecturing or deploy increasingly incredulous plot lines.

  142. JC

    One other thing, “Russians” story line peaked in the previous season.

    In the last season, the Russians were going to send a dead boody packed in a box back to Russia by ship.

    How believable did you find that, makka, you eggnog? I mean, it was going to travel across the Atlantic, then a left turn into the Med and finally a left turn at Turkey to the Black sea. The body would then travel either by rail or truck to Moscow (most likely)…. and in all that time the decaying cadaver wouldn’t pong. When it finally arrived in Moscow, the Oligarch would take delivery of the coffin shaped box, open it and would be horrified. Yea, makka would buy into that story. That’s just a drama version of Fakenews.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Gold.
    The second Dem speaker raises Benghazi and Uranium One without being prompted by anything.
    Trump owns their headspace.

  144. zyconoclast

    Absolutely ripping. The Poms are 1/160 after 20 overs and are projected to make well over 400, which will of course win them the series.

    This really does make baby Jesus cry. Tears of rage. I’ve still got my phone on waiting for the callup. Weakened bowling attack or not, to win the toss and decide to field first is pure idiocy.

    This is what happens when you pick a team based on the criteria: Australia cricket coach Justin Langer wants players to be good blokes who could ‘marry his daughters’

  145. max

    Royal Ascot starting tonight. Beautiful course, really wide, lots of room for the big fields.

    Wish I was there.

  146. JC

    Yea max, can’t wait for the annual Daily Mail’s upskirt pics of ghastly obese drunken English girls lying on the ground unconscious and their fat arses showing… tangled up in cheap g-strings. Always something to look forward to on an empty stomach.

  147. max

    Heh, just like flamin’ Flemin’ton in November.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Uh-oh.
    Strzok is important.
    Horowitz is a flah (fly) and Gowdy has a pin through him and loosening his wangs (wings).

  149. JC

    Leigh, Where are you watching it.

  150. max

    Senegal about to kick off against Poland.

    I’ll bet the Russkis have no problems with visa overstayers at the end of the tournament.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Horowitz is shopping Strzok big-time.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Fox on Sky … 606.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    Gowdy … “If someone had spoken about Strzok and Page the way they spoke about Trump, would you have let that person be part of the IG investigation into their behaviour?”
    Horowitz… “No.”

  154. max

    Some African football teams use voodoo.

    Urine and blood sprinkled around the area in front of goals is a winning recipe.

    Perhaps Carlton could try it.

  155. John Constantine

    480.

    New world record for aussies.

    Conceding advantage like frankenstabby bishop in a united nations convention signing frenzy.

  156. rickw

    Same goes for “Mecca”. There’s a place called “Bakka”, mentioned a couple of times, which people claim is really a reference to Mecca. But you’d think the Koran would extend a little bit more on this hugely important city.

    Pretty much all the cities and places mentioned in the koran are around Petra, the oldest mosques face Petra. Then some mosques started to be built facing a mid point between Petra and Mecca. Then some started to be built facing Mecca, there is also a number of mosques in Africa built to face parallel to the line between Petra and Mecca.

  157. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks Tom for your early morning contributions – they pep up the early starts in our household.

    An update on Peter Ridd’s court actions against James Cook University

    Dear All,
    Just a little news on what has been happening. The legal matters are slowly grinding through the system. We were successful this week in a legal hearing to combine the two legal matters (first censure and the termination) so that it will now all be done in one court thus saving funds. At the same time we made an unsuccessful attempt to get an injunction to force JCU to reinstate me pending the decision of the final court case. We did not hold out too many hopes for this as the bar is set quite high . It was however illuminating to see the lawyers slug it out. I have mentioned previously that the case will not be fought primarily on the science but on legal technicalities. Jennifer Marohasy, who was at the court hearing has written this interesting piece about proceedings on her Blog.

    In any case, my legal team that includes a Queens Council have now put together a powerful case and we are hopeful of success. I doubt there will be much more news for a month or two due to the glacial pace of proceedings.
    Thanks again.

    Peter
    Help spread the word!

  158. Oh come on

    The Sovs were busy destroying their Officer class in ’48 weren’t they? Can’t see them being about to gobble up chunks of Europe.

    No, that had already happened. The Red Army remained formidable and was the largest army in the world at the time. (We know what Russian intentions were wrt central Europe because these were enacted after the defeat of the Nazis.) In 1938, the Wehrmacht remained very much constrained by Versailles. When the Anschluss between Germany and Austria took place – which supposedly was never going to happen – many of the German tanks and mechanised vehicles broke down or ran out of fuel in or on the road to Austria.

    One of the points the historian makes was that in the bloodless annexation of the Sudetenland and subsequent occupation of Czechoslovakia, was that Hitler gained the Skoda Works – one of the largest, most advanced and most productive vehicle manufacturing plants in Europe at the time. He also incorporated the significant Czech mechanised divisions into the Wehrmacht; a capacity the Wehrmacht had a great need for (see its rather hapless foray into Austria) and was instrumental in the invasion of Poland. The Munich Agreement was that Hitler would be able to build up his military force to a degree through the conquest of the Czech Republic and the requisition of its industrial base and military hardware, thus checking Soviet designs on the region. Chamberlain saw a strong anti-communist Germany as preferable to Soviet domination of central Europe, which probably would have happened if the Nazis’ wings remained clipped.

    Hitler was fundamentally a gambler. He gambled that he could get away with Anschluss with Austria, forbidden by the Versailles Treaty. He gambled that he could browbeat the Czechs into handing over the Sudetenland (a heavily fortified region that almost certainly would have withstood and repulsed a German bombardment). Even at that late stage, the Brits or French could have stopped the Germans, but Hitler bet they wouldn’t intervene, rolled the die and won big. He gambled that he could make nice with the Soviets and invade Poland with few consequences, and that paid off, as well. Hitler gambled on his invasion of France – now this was a high-stakes game – the collapse of the French military and state being unthinkable at the time. But Hitler rolled the die and won bigly. All the while, he was building up the Wehrmacht from being something of a joke in even in early 1938 into a fighting force capable of invading and coming to the brink of defeating the USSR in 1941. He gambled there, too, but ultimately lost badly.

  159. struth

    The Australian Muslim community has taken extreme offence to this

    Yawn…………………..

    Another day.
    Same old shit it seems.

    Good moaning troops.

  160. Top Ender

    Excuse the length, as the bishop said to the actress, but this is a well-written and comprehensive article which I thought worth posting in full, as it sums up the international people-smuggling racket, along with making several references to Oz:

    All of a sudden, Australia doesn’t seem quite so far out on a limb with its treatment of boat-borne asylum-seekers. Among the Europeans, public opinion that once ran in favour of accommodating Middle Eastern and African refugees has turned sharply in favour closing the borders, culminating in their very own Tampa moment.

    This happened two weeks ago when Italy’s Interior Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini refused to let the humanitarian vessel Aquarius dock after it had plucked 629 people from the sea off Libya.

    Like John Howard in 2001, when the MV Tampa steamed into Australian waters with its cargo of 433 rescued boatpeople, Salvini stood his ground, putting into effect the shaky new populist government’s promise to crack down on unauthorised boat arrivals.

    The Aquarius finally made port in Spain, after Malta also denied it permission to berth. Facing slapdowns from France and the Vatican, Salvini, the leader of the nationalist League, was adamant the door would stay shut. Voters immediately rewarded the League with impressive gains in local elections, prompting him to exult: “Clearly, raising your voice — something Italy has not done for years — pays off.”

    The Tampa-Aquarius parallel is not the only sign that the tide has turned in Europe, sending it down a path that more closely resembles Australia’s hardline policy of boat turnbacks and offshore processing than the welcome mat that was rolled out in 2015-16 when the refugee flood from Syria added to the weight of people on the move from trouble spots such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Sudan.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who set the tone by taking in 1.4 million asylum-seekers in the past three years, was nearly brought down this week after her coalition government split over refugee policy.

    The day of reckoning still looms for Merkel, as she succeeded only in putting off for a fortnight the showdown with longstanding ally Horst Seehofer, the Interior Minister and chairman of the Bavarian sister party to her Christian Democratic Union. He has vowed to proceed with the plan she vetoed to start turning back asylum-seekers at the German border.

    The drawbridge has also gone up in neighbouring Austria, which has bluntly told the EU it will accept no more refugees. Hungary’s combative Prime Minister Viktor Orban openly derides Syrian asylum-seekers as “Muslim invaders” and has positioned himself as the continent’s most anti-migration leader by fortifying the border with Serbia with an electrified fence topped by razor wire. While Merkel suffered a near-death experience at last year’s German election, Orban romped home when Hungarians went to the polls in April.

    After joining Sweden in re­introducing border controls, ultra-liberal Denmark this year drafted laws to confiscate refugees’ cash and belongings to cover the cost of hosting them. The Schengen Agreement, aimed at a borderless continent is now coming apart at the seams.

    Britain’s impending exit from the EU next March will exacerbate the crisis of confidence in the European project amid a surge in support for right-wing and anti-migration parties such as Marine Le Pen’s National Rally in France, formerly the National Front. She embraced Salvini’s veto of the Aquarius, saying a “policy of firmness” was the only way to halt the mass arrivals by sea.

    Donald Trump, meanwhile, is adamant that he will not be swayed from his election commitment to secure the Mexican border — despite the outcry joined by his wife, Melania, at the heart-rending scenes created by the separation of children from parents accused of illegally entering the US. The kids-in-cages revelations have shown that Trump’s “zero tolerance” policies have a morally challenging downside.

    The intensifying debate in Europe echoes the deeply divisive discourse here over boat arrivals. Today’s Newspoll shows the Turnbull government has lost ground to Labor on the question of which side would be best at continuing to control the boats — traditionally a Coalition strength. This reflects the volatility of public opinion in this space, which can be traced back to the Tampa affair all those years ago.

    The arrival of the packed Norwegian freighter off Christmas Island in August 2001 was ruthlessly exploited by Howard in the lead-up to the federal election, helping to sink Labor under Kim Beazley. It also provided grounds for the Coalition to bring in offshore processing through the so-called ­Pacific Solution whereby asylum-seekers arriving by boat were immediately sent to camps on Nauru and Manus Island in Papua New Guinea.

    Cruel as it was to the detainees, it succeeded in halting the boats. But Labor scrapped the policy when Kevin Rudd became prime minister in 2007, creating a whole new set of political problems for the ALP when the traffic revived. Again, it played into the Coalition’s hands, this time for Tony Abbott. By then Rudd had been knifed by Julia Gillard, who tried unsuccessfully to revive offshore processing in East Timor and Malaysia. When Rudd exacted his revenge on her ahead of the 2013 election, he did a deal with PNG to hold and resettle detained boatpeople; Abbott as PM extended this to Nauru and ordered the navy to turn back boats.

    Malcolm Turnbull inherited a stable policy situation that endures: the people-smugglers, for now, are plying their monstrous trade elsewhere. But the humanitarian plight of those stranded on Nauru and Manus Island continues to plague both the government and the ALP, which under Bill Shorten is under pressure from the left to relax the tough stance on asylum-seekers.

    The suicide last week of a 26-year-old Iranian asylum-seeker on Nauru, the third detainee to take his own life there, a month after the death by his own hand of a Rohingya man on Manus Island, has brought the questions into sharper relief.

    Turnbull insists the government is doing all it can to resettle in third countries those who have qualified as refugees, but bringing them to Australia is not an option. Shorten says he is against anyone being held in indefinite detention, but has hedged on what more Labor would do except to say in government he would pursue regional agreements including a resettlement offer from New Zea­land that was rejected by Turnbull.

    In that respect, the debate here is running ahead of Europe, where the continent has descended into ever deeper division over how to control porous EU borders. This has some surprising dimensions. Under EU law, migrants must apply for asylum in the first country they enter. But this places a heavy burden on nations such as Greece and Italy, which are first in the firing line for asylum-seekers arriving from the Middle East and North Africa respectively.

    The Eurosceptic Italian government is now leading the charge for reform of those laws ahead of a summit in Brussels later this month. The battle lines transcend the ideological considerations that dominate in Australia. Western Europe’s most significant anti-­establishment government come to power in March when young Italians voted in droves for the League under Salvini and the populist Five Star Movement. Struggling with a bleak job outlook that has been entrenched over the past decade, they backed the parties’ shared anti-immigration stand, laying bare a generation gap with older voters who kept faith with the status quo.

    The youth revolt is spreading across Europe, up-ending preconceived notions about the hold progressive politics is supposed to exert on young voters. As ever, self-interest wins out. Almost 30 per cent of Italians aged 20 to 34 aren’t working, studying or in a training program, according to Eurostat, more than in any other country in the EU. Greece comes in next at 29 per cent while Spain’s rate is 21 per cent.

    The frustration of young, typically well-educated Italians with the limited job prospects is voiced by Carlo Gaetani, a self-employed engineer in Puglia. Ten years ago, when he was in his early 20s, he voted for a mainstream centre-left party in the hope it would drive economic development in the country’s south. But he felt betrayed when Italy slipped into recession, leaving many of his friends unable to find work. His own opportunities are limited because, all too often, well-paid government commissions go to people with the connections he lacks.

    “Italy is collapsing and yet nothing has changed in this country for at least 30 years,” he told The Wall Street Journal. “Five Star is our last hope. If they also fail, I think I will stop voting.”

    In Germany, opinion polls show that 61 per cent of the electorate wants asylum-seekers with an open refugee application in another EU state to be turned back, a sobering reminder for Merkel as she fights for her political survival.

    Although the influx to Germany has slowed — asylum requests dropped from 745,155 in 2016 to 22,560 last year — the public backlash has scrambled politics in what had been among Europe’s most stable countries, boosting support for anti-immigration populists, who cleaned up at the polls last year and look set to do even better in upcoming regional elections in Bavaria. The border province has been Germany’s front line in the refugee crisis, with asylum-seekers pouring in from neighbouring Austria.

    A Civey poll on Monday found that 71 per cent of voters in Bavaria would accept a breakdown of the governing coalition if Merkel continued to rebuff Seehofer’s Christian Social Union.

    Urging him to back down, the Chancellor warned that a unilateral policy on asylum-seekers would split Europe and further strain relations with member states feeling the strain of the refugee crisis. Seehofer wasn’t having any of it. He reminded Merkel that it was her decision to open Germany’s borders, and she needed to take responsibility for the consequences. “We don’t have migration under control … people who are banned from entering Germany, as well as those who have applied for asylum or who are registered as asylum-seekers elsewhere in Europe, should be turned back at the border,” he said.

    If Merkel is to survive beyond the two-week reprieve offered by Monday’s uneasy truce, she must move swiftly to cut deals with other EU countries to accept more refugees. At the very least, they must commit to the processing of asylum claims rather than putting freshly disembarked boatpeople on the next train to Germany, as the Italians have been accused of doing.

    The politics of asylum on the continent are becoming increasingly poisonous, mirroring Australia’s long and tortured journey through this minefield of public policy. But if it is sympathy or understanding the Europeans want, they won’t be getting it from their supposed ally in Washington.

    Fresh from his run-in with Merkel at the G7 summit, Trump seemed to relish her predicament, tweeting this week: “The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!”

    Link with comments open if you can scale the paywall.

  161. struth

    Very proud of Mrs Struth this morning.

    Last night one of her old workmates and facebook friends took to facebook to rant and rave about the rise of the evil extreme right.
    No one of course, asked for her opinion on political matters and it was of course the same old lines of idiocy.
    Nazis and fascists are right wingers, the lot.
    She knew what she was talking about because she has been to university and is edumacated.
    She was also in Rome on holiday which made her an expert in Fascism……………………….

    Mrs Struth was angry at this uncalled for crap and asked me for help.
    We tore her a new political arsehole and finished by telling her she is defriended and that any of Mrs Struth’s friends that agree with her new ex friend should defriend Mrs Struth as well.
    She said at the end, I’m sick of having this shit, completely unasked for, shoved down my throat, etc.

    These people are not bright and boy do they go into melt down when challenged with fun facts.

    You could imagine, could you not?

    You’re ignorant, I’ve been to university so I know more about this than you, blah blah.
    These people are so thick, they think no right wing person has ever gone to Uni.
    Hitler fought socialists so how can you call him a socialist?

    Er, he called himself a socialist, and he fought communists and very conservative right wing countries too.
    There is no rule whereby socialist countries can’t go to war with each other.
    That’s exactly what totalitarian regimes do.
    Using that logic either sunni or Shi-ite are secretly Roman Catholic.

    Oh I had fun.

  162. hzhousewife

    Whoohoo struth and Mrs struth !

    USA withdraws from the UN Human Rights Commission !! Nicki Haley says out ;oud what a lot of people think.

  163. stackja

    Woman robbed after struggle at Riverstone Cemetery
    Updated 13 mins ago
    EDITOR ON DUTY: Angelo Risso
    23 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    A woman has been assaulted and robbed at a cemetery in Sydney’s northwest.

    A man stole a handbag from the 52-year-old woman’s car at Riverstone Cemetery yesterday before fleeing in a red-coloured hatchback car.

    The pair had briefly struggled before the man’s getaway.

    The thief is described as being 30 to 35 years old, between 170 and 175cm tall with a medium build and was last seen wearing a grey hat and Khaki pants.

  164. stackja

    Audit reveals AGL failed to warn customers before they were left in darkness
    Kylar Loussikian, National Political Reporter, The Daily Telegraph
    June 20, 2018 12:48am
    Subscriber only
    ELECTRICITY giant AGL has failed to warn customers before plunging their homes into the dark in a damning audit undertaken by the nation’s energy watchdog.

    The Daily Telegraph revealed on Monday that almost 300,000 Australians were forced to live in darkness last year because they couldn’t afford to pay their electricity bills — with 109,607 homes disconnected in the last year alone.

    But the Australian Energy Regulator last night released an audit into AGL, one of the largest electricity retailers in the country, which found no evidence the company had made proper attempts to warn customers before cutting them off.

  165. C.L.

    The ongoing suffering of contemporary Western women …

    Australia to launch national inquiry into workplace sexual harassment.

    The ugly, the neurotic and the lesbian are encouraged to give “evidence”:

    In a world first, the Australian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) will launch an independent national inquiry into sexual harassment in the workplace.

    The 12-month investigation will be carried out by the sex discrimination commissioner, Kate Jenkins.

    Ms Jenkins said the inquiry would follow on from the #MeToo movement, which helped shine a light on the prevalence of women being sexually harassed and assaulted.

    “The timing was right, the appetite for change is there, and we have all the functions to make sure we can help Australia lead the globe on finding new solutions for sexual harassment,” she said.

    Ms Jenkins said the investigation was about turning the discussion into action and would help make Australian workplaces safer…

    The independent inquiry will hold public consultations in major cities and regional centres, and all Australians will have the opportunity to lodge submissions.

  166. C.L.

    Great work, the struths.

  167. OldOzzie

    Snoopy
    #2742028, posted on June 19, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    The meme for the next ice age has been chosen.

    Barrington Tops winter wonderland sparks sightseeing rush to Hunter Valley

    Snoopy

    CHILDREN JUST AREN’T GOING TO KNOW WHAT SNOW IS

    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    January 17, 2013 4:03am

    The Independent, 2000:
    Snow is starting to disappear from our lives. Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain’s culture, as warmer winters – which scientists are attributing to global climate change – produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries … Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community … According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”. “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.

    The Independent, 2013:
    Stand by for icy blasts and heavy snow

    Today’s Snow Cams Perisher

  168. OldOzzie

    C.L.
    #2742150, posted on June 20, 2018 at 7:44 am

    The ongoing suffering of contemporary Western women …

    Australia to launch national inquiry into workplace sexual harassment.

    The ugly, the neurotic and the lesbian are encouraged to give “evidence”:

    C.L.

    From today’s AFR

    PwC #MeToo report sent anonymously to senior partners


    The letter arrived without warning in the mailboxes of almost two dozen senior partners of PwC Australia, including chief executive Luke Sayers, late last year.

    Sent anonymously, the missive outlined what the author or authors described as ongoing tolerance of inappropriate behaviour at the big four accounting and consulting firm. It outlined alleged partner conduct at the firm including sexual harassment, bullying and extramarital affairs.

    There was also mention of the burgeoning #MeToo movement as it described a “boy’s club” culture within PwC with the human resources complaints process seen as ineffective by female staff.

    The letter demanded action from the senior leaders to change the firm’s culture.

    The reaction within PwC was panic. At the time, the sexual misconduct allegations against film mogul Harvey Weinstein, which inspired the #MeToo movement, were in the news constantly.

    ‘Not reflective of culture’

    It wasn’t clear who had assembled the report but the firm took the letter seriously and assumed it was from someone currently at the firm. There was also concern about what else might be revealed either internally or, even worse, externally.

    PwC has confirmed the existence of the letter but denied its contents reflected the firm’s culture or values.

    “In late 2017, an anonymous note to the firm’s leadership alleged some partners had displayed behaviours that are unacceptable based on PwC’s values,” a spokeswoman said.

    “Such a letter reminds everyone, including us, of the seriousness of providing a safe and inclusive workplace.

    “The concerns expressed in the letter were taken seriously and we immediately reminded our partners and people of our code of conduct and the values and behaviours expected of everyone at PwC, both at the office and at social events.”

    The spokeswoman added: “The concerns raised in the anonymous letter do not reflect the firm’s culture and values. Regardless, we appreciate the courage of the person who wrote the letter and we encourage people to speak up about their concerns.”
    Response to #MeToo

    The Australian Financial Review has been told that no names were detailed in the letter, which is believed to have been sent to around 20 senior partners at the firm.

    The existence of the letter has come to light amid the #MeToo movement which highlighted the prevalence of sexual harassment and the ineffectiveness of complaint-handling procedures inside many organisations to deal with these allegations.

    While many of the revelations of sexual misconduct have emerged in the entertainment field, there have been cases revealed in the business sector around the world.

    Locally, the Financial Review has uncovered alleged incidents at several professional services firms, including Ernst & Young and KPMG, and law firm Herbert Smith Freehills.

    Shortly after the letter was received at PwC, an all-firm message within the firm’s newsletter was sent out by Helen Fazzino, PwC’s managing partner for People, Partnership & Culture.

    Zero tolerance

    In the note, Ms Fazzino warned that behaviour which breached the firm’s values “will not be tolerated regardless of role, title or rank as we all know that the standard of behaviour we walk past is the standard we accept”.

    Ms Fazzino’s email also encouraged “everyone at PwC to step in – step in if you hear, see or experience something that doesn’t seem right, step in to provide care and support”.

    The need for the firm to tell its own staff how to behave echoed the internal relations playbook of its big four rivals over the spectre of sexual misconduct.

    It was also a telling move for a firm that has gone out of its way to promote itself as a great place to work for women.

    PwC has targets to increase the level of women at the firm at the partner and director level with females making up about one in four of its partners. The firm also boasts of putting “diversity and inclusion at centre of our strategy” and was named a top five workplace for fathers on Tuesday.

    The firm is also sponsor of the “Women’s Leadership in Media Award” for The Walkley Foundation, an award that “celebrates women who are making a contribution to gender equality”. One of the finalists for this year’s award did a piece about the #MeToo movement.

    PwC also publishes a range of research on women at work. This included one project to mark International Women’s Day, titled “Time to talk: What has to change for women at work?”

    The survey of 3600 professional working women had “two clear messages shine through: firstly, that women are more career confident and ambitious than ever, they are ready to progress; and secondly, that employers still have a lot of work to do to capitalise on this female potential and drive change”.
    Full email sent to staff

    This message was part of an internal newsletter sent by Helen Fazzino, PwC’s managing partner for People, Partnership & Culture, after the #MeToo letter was sent to a group of partners.

    This week Time Magazine named the ‘Silence Breakers’ behind the social movement aimed at raising awareness about sexual harassment and assault as ‘Person of the year 2017″. We too applaud them for sharing experiences that have increased awareness, ensure learning and allow action to be taken when behaviours are not acceptable.

    With our ongoing commitment to providing an environment where everyone can be safe, confident and can thrive, yesterday on his annual end of year call with all partners, Luke emphasised the need for our PwC partners, as leaders of our firm, leaders in our community and role models, to make sure their behaviour is congruent with our values.

    For everyone here at PwC, we will continue to provide education and support relating to workplace behaviour including the use of inclusive language; acceptable social media behaviours; how we respond to close personal relationships; and what constitutes inappropriate behaviour. Behaviour which breaches our values and breaks trust will not be tolerated regardless of role, title or rank as we all know that the standard of behaviour we walk past is the standard we accept.

    So we encourage everyone at PwC to step in – step in if you hear, see or experience something that doesn’t seem right, step in to provide care and support. Depending on the situation your coach, an events team member, your HC relationship manager, a partner, our confidential support line and our Employee Relations managers are all available for support.

  169. stackja

    Where is the outrage over the death of Qi Yu?
    SHERELE MOODY
    Sherele Moody
    June 19, 2018 12:42pm
    Subscriber only
    THESE two women were killed just days apart in Australia — but chances are you know of only one of them.

    Eurydice Dixon died in a public park, allegedly at the hands of a man who did not know her.

    Qi Yu died behind the front door of her own home, allegedly at the hands of a man she lived with.

    You would be hard pressed to meet an Australian who has not heard about Eurydice. But how many of us know about Qi?

    This is not a “what about” article, but a part of the discussion of violence in Australia that we must have.

    Put simply, the public outcry around Eurydice’s death and the silence on Qi’s shows not all victims are equal and that is outrageously tragic.

    Eurydice Dixon was [email protected] ed and killed on Wednesday, June 14, in Princes Park, North Carlton in Melbourne. Nineteen-year-old Jaymes Todd handed himself into police about 24 hours after news of Eurydice’s death broke.

    The man was unknown to the 22-year-old. Police allege he stalked her as she walked home from a comedy gig in Melbourne’s CBD.

    Qi Yu disappeared just six days before Eurydice died.

    On June 8, in her home at Campsie in Sydney, Qi was speaking on the phone to her mother in China.

    The phone suddenly went dead and Qi’s family were unable to reach her.

    The next day police started looking for the 28-year-old, whose disappearance was entirely out of character.

    Qi Yu’s car was found 12 hours later about 4km from her home.

    On June 14 — not long after Eurydice was found — Qi Yu’s 19-year-old housemate Shuo Dong was charged over her death.

    Qi’s body has not been found.

    News Corp journalist Sherele Moody is the recipient of 2017 Clarion and Walkley Our Watch journalism excellence awards for her coverage of domestic violence issues. Sherele is also the founder of The RED HEART Campaign and a member of the Femicide Australia Project.

  170. cohenite

    How the fuck are page and strzok still working for the fbi?

  171. OldOzzie

    AFR Editorial – It’s time to curb the corporate ambulance chasers

    There is rightly a serious debate on company governance and the performance of company directors in Australia. And the nation’s prosperity depends in good part on Australian business taking well-informed risks that sometimes will end in tears. An American-style litigation culture of ambulance-chasing class actions by aggrieved shareholders is unlikely to enrich anyone other than the legal entrepreneurs who drive it. Investors should be protected from law-breaking directors. But bogging companies down in long and excessive redress fuelled by the prospect of big court payouts to enterprising third party funders would only enrich a few at the expense of many. In the end, it makes little sense for shareholders to sue shareholders.

    The Australian Law Reform Commission began an inquiry into the class action business at the end of last year, and published a discussion paper this month.

    A decade ago there were less than a dozen law firms engaged in class action work, now there are almost 50. Settlements in shareholder actions last year topped $1.5 billion, most of it picked up by insurers. The cost of insurance for directors to protect themselves from the results has climbed between 40 per cent and 400 per cent – because insurers have in the past underpriced the risk. One third of all class actions now involve shareholders suing firms.

    Australia offers a unique combination of a litigation funding sector that is easy to enter, and very strict continuous disclosure laws for companies listed on share markets. The overlap between the two has produced rich feeding grounds for both law firms and the funders that stand behind a majority of shareholder actions. Requirements to promptly reveal any material changes that might affect shareholders are an important protection against market manipulation, insider trading and in maintaining the integrity of the market. But they also leave lawyers ready to pounce if companies are not quick enough off the mark. The rules were softened in 2013 so that companies only had to disclose “without delay”, but there is still plenty of potential for grievance to be brought. The ALRC has suggested relaxing continuous disclosure to give less leeway for class actions.

    Few barriers

    But three other factors have added to the class action explosion. One is that in 2010, the Federal Court following a class action against Multiplex suggested that litigation funders should be regulated by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. However Chris Bowen, who was federal finance minister at the time, decided against: as a result there are few barriers to entry in litigation funding (only lawyers themselves are barred). That means unions or special interest groups can also fund actions. In 2014, however, the Productivity Commission report on access to justice recommended that they be regulated through both licensing and capital adequacy requirements.

    Second is that funders and class action firms may between them launch large numbers of claims, many of which compete with each other – the number of current actions against AMP are a case in point. There needs to be more guidance from the courts on what happens when claims overlap like this.

    The third issue is ironically protection for the plaintiffs themselves, against excessive fees or the funder just running out of money. Although the Federal Court has the power to supervise litigation funding costs, many end up with only a few cents in the dollar as large funders’ fees – very often the largest single deduction – eat up a large percentage of settlements. While that might be expected to deter plaintiffs, it is a big incentive for the funders that get involved in this model. Moreover, claimants are sometimes at a disadvantage if there claims are small and they need the backing of the funder more than that funder needs them to join the action.

    There is nothing wrong in principle in small claimants pooling the same complaint against a big company. But this can be abused by entrepreneurs who know how to game the system by arming such complaints with the coercive power of the state. Such class actions have now too easily become less a fight for justice than an opportunist business model for some that does economic damage to companies in the process. The scrutiny is warranted.

  172. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #2742152, posted on June 20, 2018 at 7:45 am

    BOM reports Sydney had heavy rain last night.
    Has Desal plant had roof repaired?

  173. None

    The test will come when [email protected] or killer, when arrested, says that he/she confessed what they were doing or had done to their priest. Maybe then it will be tested in the High Court. I’m sure the Church and it’s legal advisors will take it there.

    I love how people think that the church has got this bottomless bucket of money to sit there and try cases in court. It does not and it’s not its purpose.

  174. Tel

    https://climatism.blog/2018/06/17/does-the-csiro-still-stand-by-its-2003-snow-prediction/

    Someone has rounded up a long list of stupid snow predictions, including the CSIRO. You would think they start to feel bad about it by now.

    He includes some graphs there: the trend for Australian snow depth is slightly downwards, but with significant variation year to year (much bigger than the effect of any noticeable warming). He also shows that global winter snow is trending upwards, driven by Europe and North America, again the trend is small compared to year on year random variation.

  175. johanna

    Zipster, thanks so much for posting the links to the US Judiciary Committee.

    If I was a ‘bad actor’ it would be hard to choose between being questioned by Ted Cruz or John (no relation) Kennedy.

    Cruz puts the knife into the centre of the target, while Kennedy does the folksy, imagine if it was a jury in a small town, thing. Complete with accent – Kennedy’s slurred words would make Truman Capote proud.

    Either way, they are in big trouble.

    Horowitz, who lots of people said was honest and credible, looked awful. He reminded me of a down on his luck private investigator in a James Ellroy novel. Seedy, living in a tent outside the stadium. Bit like Bob Ellis on his best day.

    I don’t know what they’ve got on him, but if it keeps on raining the levee’s gonna break.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Frogmarch time.

    Report: FBI Agent Peter Strzok Escorted Out of Headquarters

    Still seems to be employed though.

  177. stackja

    Tel
    #2742163, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:07 am
    https://climatism.blog/2018/06/17/does-the-csiro-still-stand-by-its-2003-snow-prediction/

    Someone has rounded up a long list of stupid snow predictions, including the CSIRO. You would think they start to feel bad about it by now.

    CSIRO sold out to get more money from RGR.

  178. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2742165, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:12 am
    Frogmarch time.

    Report: FBI Agent Peter Strzok Escorted Out of Headquarters

    Still seems to be employed though.

    Probably needs to ‘unemployed’ by some ‘impartial’ authority. Hoover likely just fired them.

  179. None

    Haha struth. Sounds like you did. And top stuff from Mrs Struth. Knowing the poor edumacated petals they will now whine and get Mrs struth booted from Facebook or Fakebook as I call it. But it would be a nice fun story to tell the grandkids.

  180. Chris

    Hi, Stacy.
    During the early weeks after the USS Fitzgerald was speared by a lumbering Philippine container ship, it was noteworthy that the captain and a couple of admirals were publically named, but not the actual officer in charge, the officer of the deck. (OOD) The other person who should have kept the Fitz out of trouble is the person in charge of the combat information center, the Tactical Action Officer. That individual is supposed to be monitoring the combat radar, which can detect a swimmer at a distance of two miles.
    Not until a year later, when the final reports are made public and the guilty parties have been court-martialed, does the truth come out. The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!! The Tactical Action Officer would normally be in near constant communication with the OOD, but there is no record of any communication between them that entire shift!
    Another fun fact: In the Navy that won WWII, the damage control officers were usually some of the biggest and strongest men aboard, able to close hatches, shore up damaged areas with timbers, etc. The Fitz’s damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!
    Look it up: The OOD was Sarah Coppock, Tactical Action Officer was Natalie Combs. . . .
    When I noticed last year that they were doing all they could to keep the OOD’s name out of the headlines, I speculated to my son that it was a she. Turns out all the key people (except one officer in the CIC) were female!

    RS McCain passes on a tip that USS Fitzgerald collision was commanded by girl officers who were not speaking to each other! And it was kept out of the media.

  181. OldOzzie

    Telstra announces it will axe 8000 employees and contractors in company restructure

    TELCO giant Telstra has announced it will be cutting almost a quarter of its workforce in a massive company overhaul, with an aim to “eliminate customer pain points”.

    CEO Andy Penn made the announcement this morning.

    The telecommunications giant says it will cut 8000 employees and contractors — including one in four executive and middle management roles — to “flatten the structure”.

    It cuts come less than a month after Telstra warned that its 2017/18 earnings will likely be at the bottom of its guidance range of $10.1 billion to $10.6 billion, blaming increasing competition in mobile and fixed broadband, and rising costs from the NBN.

    More to come.

  182. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #2742172, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:22 am
    Telstra announces it will axe 8000 employees and contractors in company restructure

    TELCO giant Telstra has announced it will be cutting almost a quarter of its workforce in a massive company overhaul, with an aim to “eliminate customer pain points”.

    CEO Andy Penn made the announcement this morning.

    The telecommunications giant says it will cut 8000 employees and contractors — including one in four executive and middle management roles — to “flatten the structure”.

    It cuts come less than a month after Telstra warned that its 2017/18 earnings will likely be at the bottom of its guidance range of $10.1 billion to $10.6 billion, blaming increasing competition in mobile and fixed broadband, and rising costs from the NBN.

    More to come.

    RGR created NBN. Telstra had no choice but to get a good price. How many Australian employees are needed? PMG was overstaffed? As a Telstra shareholder I want a good business.

  183. None

    Ted Cruz is another we were too hard on, I guess.

    LOL who’s “we” kemosabe. I suspect it was only you.

  184. stackja

    Chris
    #2742171, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Who supervised these women? What if women were in the front line during WW2?

  185. None

    How the fuck are page and strzok still working for the fbi?

    Friends in high places.

  186. None

    As the curtain call began for the Broadway musical “A Bronx Tale,” which De Niro co-directed, someone in the front row held up a large “Trump 2020” banner…

    haha
    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/trump-fan-repays-de-niro-hypocrites-squeal/news-story/cd94d7e4ce0b6cb32f39373632768a10

  187. struth

    It was late last night.
    Many will probably only be reading the clash this morning.

    But they’d be hard pressed to come up with anything.
    Basically the truth is all you need.
    We are anti Nazi and anti fascist.
    She reminded them they are the ones who own Hitler and socialism, not people who believe in limited government, low taxes and individual responsibility.
    Extremists on our side are anarchists, not central controlling big government totalitarians.
    She also suggested that it’s not Mrs Struth who started it, and didn’t ask to have someone else’s politics shoved down her throat on a social media page.
    She asked those that agree with the socialist to just defriend us and leave her alone.
    (which control freak lefties cannot do, so in continuing on with their outrage they will prove that point)
    So far a freak we do not know, who has responded and thinks he’s edumacated and demanded more respect for academics (apparently it’s a dangerous precedent to not respect their edumacated opinion) has really made such a goose of himself, it’s been an own goal.
    (he started raving all sorts of gibberish….couldn’t help himself)

    Mrs Struth did have a lot of help from me, as she gets very angry at them, but I am very proud of her.

    Once, I met an old friend in Queenstown NZ, who was from the states and had gone socialist.
    She started lecturing us on getting “minorities” and different races a leg up by diversity picking strategies Blah blah.
    I was about to be civil in my reply but Mrs Struth just blurted out, That’s social engineering.
    That’s what Hitler did!
    I was shocked.
    But she was right so, there you go.
    Eat that shit sandwich you stupid socialist cow, I thought.
    I picked well.

  188. johanna

    I love how I inhabit JC’s limited brainspace jus by bein’ me!

    I pointed out that the ABC is insolvent, and he couldn’t wait to tell us that it could be salvaged. Not with his money, of course.

    Trolling JC is like taking candy from a baby. Pure pop for now people.

    BTW, the singer of that great little song was born Leonard Borisoff. God Bless America!

  189. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What is pretty clear is that when you put people whose ethos is the Law of the Jungle and who are not creatures of the Enlightenment you can only expect them to fall back on their values which is the end justifies the means.

    The POCs in the Obama administration including Obama acted out their values of the Law of the Jungle and not the values of the Enlightenment, because that is who they are.

    Incompetence, corruption and unfettered abuse of power is Obama’s real legacy and that is the core values of the left.

    The bugman who willingly and continue to support Obama’s actions clearly expose their own values by doing so.

  190. stackja

    Richard Nixon was cheated out of 1960 election. Chose not to fight in 1974. Now BO in Washington continues unwashed.

  191. Oh come on

    Hahahaha! US pulls out of UNHRC! Cites the body’s fixation on Israel and the appalling human rights records of many of its members!

  192. John Constantine

    Their Australian left.

    Their Geoff Clark puts out a call to halt the western highway upgrade, vital because of Big Australia logistics to do something about this death trap.

    Spirit Trees.

    If a Tory had done the things their ABC reports this community organiser has done, putting out A Call would be drowned put by ABC outrage at this insult to women.

    Instead, wymynsys flock to the protest.

    Revolution uber alles.

    Comrades.

  193. Hahahaha! US pulls out of UNHRC! Cites the body’s fixation on Israel and the appalling human rights records of many of its members!

    Iampeter will any moment come and tell us Trump is not picking fights with anyone.

  194. C.L.

    Ted Cruz is another we were too hard on, I guess.
    ————
    LOL who’s “we” kemosabe. I suspect it was only you.

    Your memory isn’t the best.
    Nobody ever doubted Cruz was intellectually impressive but he became an anti-Trumper lunatic for about a year. Now that Trump is beloved of the GOP base, he has changed his tune.

  195. C.L.

    Surfed on to Tom Ballard’s show last night out of curiosity.
    He and his cast were doing a Euridice Dixon bit about the police trivialising r-ape.
    Bold as brass on the ABC tit.

  196. johanna

    Forgot to add, JC has JDs, johanna delusional syndrome.

    He’s never laid eyes on me, but claims that I am an obese, drunken whore. And that apparently forces him to tell lies, which have been caught out here more than once.

    I am proud to join the club of Trump haters who have never met him, but have no hesitation in calling him everything under the sun.

    C’mon, JC, you hairy backed hero, what have you got?

  197. Oh come on

    We’re going to win so much you might even get tired of winning! No, it’s too much, you’ll say! We can’t take all this winning! No, we have to keep winning! We have to win more!

  198. C.L.

    Hahahaha! US pulls out of UNHRC! Cites the body’s fixation on Israel and the appalling human rights records of many of its members!

    Link?

  199. Oh come on

    Link

    Saw it first on the ABC News app so no link before, but it’s up at their site.

  200. stackja

    Brawl erupts at Oakleigh train station between 15 youths
    BRIANNA TRAVERS, Herald Sun
    June 19, 2018 9:10pm
    Subscriber only
    A POLICE officer has been assaulted and a teenage girl seriously injured after a brawl erupted between at least 15 youths near a train station in Melbourne’s southeast this evening.

    The altercation, between males and females, happened about 6.30pm on Haughton Rd near Oakleigh train station.

    Eyewitness James, who requested his surname to be withheld, saw the aftermath.

    “A young girl was screaming and crying at the same time,” he told the Herald Sun.

    “She looked pretty bad, there was a big mess on her face, she was all red from the blood.

    “She was screaming, ‘I’m 15 years old, why did you hit me?’

    “She was bleeding heavily from the face.”

    Victoria Police has confirmed a teenage girl has been taken to hospital in a serious condition with non-life threatening injuries.

    Another teenage girl was arrested by police in relation to assaulting a policeman during the incident. It is unknown if the policeman was injured.

    Victoria Police spokeswoman Belinda Batty said no other arrests had been made.

    “A number of people are being interviewed,” she said.

    “The investigation is ongoing.”

    It is unknown what sparked the brawl.

  201. C.L.

    The US has announced it will leave the United Nations’ Human Rights Council, with Ambassador Nikki Haley calling it “an organisation that is not worthy of its name.”

    It was the latest withdrawal by the Trump administration from an international institution.

    Haley, Trump’s envoy to the UN, said the US had given the human rights body “opportunity after opportunity” to make changes.

    She lambasted the council for “its chronic bias against Israel” and lamented the fact that its membership includes accused human rights abusers such as China, Cuba, Venezuela and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    “We take this step because our commitment does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organisation that makes a mockery of human rights,” Haley said.

    Excellent. Julie Bishop will appear within hours to say that, no, Australia ill not be following America’s example.

  202. lotocoti

    Chris, that not speaking to each other bit wasn’t a Mean Girls situation, but rather a command/training/CDF failure.

  203. thefrollickingmole

    So Jeff the R%^ist Clarke is leading a womans protest?

    Its Stimpys world, he just allows us to live here.

    Good writeup on Clarke here, not paywalled.

  204. stackja

    Department of State
    Verified account
    @StateDept
    @USUN Ambassador Nikki Haley announces the U.S. withdrawal from the @UN #HumanRightsCouncil.
    Ambassador Haley on the UN Human Rights Council
    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations Nikki Haley address the press on the UN Human Rights Council on June 19, 2018. – U.S. Department of State
    2:55 PM – 19 Jun 2018

  205. struth

    God Bless The USA and Trump.

    Don’t you just feel sick to your stomach being an Australian?

    They are going to fix their corruption at least a little and hold to their beliefs with courage.

    The U.N. is a globalist socialist evil.
    WTF are you doing to us Julie Bishop you fucking traitorous old slag?

  206. Baldrick

    Julie Bishop will appear within hours to say that, no, Australia ill not be following America’s example.

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals
    We’re going to lose so much you’ll never get tired of losing! Yes, it’s too much, you’ll say! We can take more of this losing! Yes, we have to keep losing! We have to lose more!

  207. Tom

    Not until a year later, when the final reports are made public and the guilty parties have been court-martialed, does the truth come out. The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!! The Tactical Action Officer would normally be in near constant communication with the OOD, but there is no record of any communication between them that entire shift!
    Another fun fact: In the Navy that won WWII, the damage control officers were usually some of the biggest and strongest men aboard, able to close hatches, shore up damaged areas with timbers, etc. The Fitz’s damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!

    Even in the rancid, subversive sewer that the American news media has become, it’s staggering that the truth about the accident that killed 10 people onboard the USS McCain has been suppressed: it was caused by affirmative action.

    That’s for posting, Chris. That is where the Australian Navy is headed as it hires wymmymses to replace men. I wonder how many Australian Navy accidents caused by wymmynses have been covered up.

  208. Oh come on

    Of course Bishop will maintain the status quo. Just like we won’t move our embassy to Israel’s capital city. And the ALP is fixing to rip up a 70 year old alliance by recognising an independent Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. IIRC, it’s going to the vote at the next national conference, it will have the numbers and will thus become official ALP policy henceforth.

    Australia has long been Israel’s most reliable ally. Not the most powerful, of course, but its most steadfast, even as some US administrations blew hot and cold over the Jewish state. That’s coming to an end soon.

  209. Oh come on

    Of course Bishop will maintain the status quo. Just like we won’t move our embassy to Israel’s capital city. And the ALP is fixing to rip up a 70 year old alliance by recognising an independent Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. IIRC, it’s going to the vote at the next national conference, it will have the numbers and will thus become official ALP policy henceforth.

    Australia has long been Israel’s most reliable ally. Not the most powerful, of course, but its most steadfast, even as some US administrations blew hot and cold over the J3wish state. That’s coming to an end soon.

  210. Old School Conservative

    Anecdotally, in my small circle of friends and family, President Trump is being viewed with a little less hate. Their response to my itemising of his success is “Yes, but…..” The But usually being his crassness or the lingering investigations.
    Twelve months ago, there was no acknowledgement of his achievements at all.
    In a year’s time I’m hoping there won’t be a But.

  211. Snoopy

    Chris
    #2742171, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Sulky, incompetent girrrrl warriors. Coming to a Navy near you.

  212. Leigh Lowe

    Brawl erupts at Oakleigh train station between 15 youths

    Victoria Police spokeswoman Belinda Batty said no other arrests had been made.

    Any relation?

  213. Pete of Perth

    Oco.
    Saw it first on the ABC News app so no link before, but it’s up at their site.

    I read .. their shite.

  214. Rae

    US pulls out of UNHRC! Cites the body’s fixation on Israel and the appalling human rights records of many of its members!

    The Jared (and Ivanka) factor.

  215. Old School Conservative

    “Cut and Paste” does some fact checking of the ABC, including this piece:
    Couldn’t be privatised? Says who? Bernard Keane, Crikey, June 18:
    … the argument that it’s somehow impossible to (privatise the ABC) doesn’t stack up … (It) could probably be completed within 12 months

    Here’s an idea for the Libs:
    Set a 12 month deadline to either sell off or privatise the ABC.
    In that 12 months only use conservative presenters and producers.
    Stand back and watch the fireworks!

  216. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Don’t for a minute believe this is anything other than an assault on investors in the name of da equalidy.

    Fears of housing ‘fire sale’ as interest-only loans roll into principal plus interest

  217. lotocoti

    Sulky, incompetent girrrrl warriors.

    Nope.
    See my above.

  218. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #2742213, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:25 am

    Not until a year later, when the final reports are made public and the guilty parties have been court-martialed, does the truth come out. The OOD was named Sarah, and the Tactical Action Officer was named Natalie, and they weren’t speaking to each other!!! 

    Someone mentioned the other day that the USN had not only gone feminazi but had also gone clean/green.
    They were trumpeting that, by using renewables, they were saving 40,000 gallons of fuel oil on a typical 3 month deployment for a destroyer.
    Unfortunately, if the ship’s commander was a lady, they burnt the saved fuel trying to parallel park when they returned to port.

  219. thefrollickingmole

    Bog standard lefty “think of the Chiiiillldren” propaganda here, but whats interesting is the “internationalism” of the projects supporters.
    Check the credits at the end, schoolkids, Finland and Australian universities all working together.

    https://youtu.be/wnEG8Pf5mL0

  220. Rae

    Sulky, incompetent girrrrl warriors.

    Nope.
    See my above.

    Nope. Your above doesn’t fit the generally accepted meme.

  221. Baldrick

    Scroll the Troll 👹™

  222. Surfed on to Tom Ballard’s show last night out of curiosity.
    He and his cast were doing a Euridice Dixon bit about the police trivialising r-ape.
    Bold as brass on the ABC tit.

    This is the organization the LNP administration and politicians are supporting to the hilt, forever, in the face of their rank and file’s decision.

  223. Investigative journalist Paul Sperry reported Horowitz dropped a bombshell in his testimony.

    Horowitz revealed the FBI never named a target or even a subject in the Clinton email probe!

    Sperry tweeted: BREAKING: IG Horowitz revealed in Senate testimony FBI never named a target or even subject in Clinton probe. Not Mills, Abedin, Combetta or Clinton herself. “Nobody was listed as a subject of this investigation at any point in time,” adding this was “surprising” for a crim probe

    Wow.

  224. Mother Lode

    I wonder how many Australian Navy accidents caused by wymmynses have been covered up.

    Thank God Navy ships are not required to reverse-park.

  225. John Constantine

    In 2018, their ABC is still protecting and defending Clarke, as he is a priest of the revolutionary struggle, and what else can they do?.

    How is their billion dollar ABC not responsible for the actions of the man they gave a billion dollar media pulpit to?.

    How is their ABC not responsible for the thirty years of of media silence and cover-up to protect the revolutionary brand?.

    Comrades.

    Spirit Trees.

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