Wednesday Forum: June 20, 2018

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  1. H B Bear

    MacTiernan is a rabid Lefty. They should give the old soak the railways to play with again.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    LMAO off that morons who claimed that live sheep exports would be replaced by higher value packaged meat market.

    Despite the fact that the fact that one of the major Middle Eastern buyers have already stressed that, if they can’t buy Australian sheep live, they won’t buy packaged meat, there’s still this delusional fantasy that the end of the trade means jobs for Australians in Australian meatworks.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MacTiernan is a rabid Lefty. They should give the old soak the railways to play with again.

    Look at the howling success she made of that.

  4. Makka

    “Refugee” Resettlement is a big business in the US. Payments to just one contractor.

    The real deal on the human smuggling and then “Resettlement” industry that Trump is up against.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/20/illegal-immigration-and-lax-border-controls-are-the-epicenter-of-the-uniparty/

  5. jupes

    Australians also appear to be questioning the impact of immigration on the national identity.

    F.M.D. What took them so long?

  6. JC

    Makka
    #2742621, posted on June 20, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    “Refugee” Resettlement is a big business in the US. Payments to just one contractor.

    Don’t put up copies of spreadsheets without an explanation, FFS. Don’t be so fucking lazy…. explain what it’s saying, or don’t post it at all. How much supervision do you need?

  7. Anthony

    Do all of these fuckwits screaming no borders really want no borders? If there are no borders, there are no borders to cross so everybody will stay where they are. If there are no borders there can be no international trade because there are no nations to interact with each other. We can do away with national currencies. We can do away with currency. Pick your own entry point into a prehistory and everything will be fine. Though some kids may die, but that’s okay.

  8. Bruce in WA

    Thanks, Rae.

    Starbucks make many things — but coffee isn’t one of them.

    In my opinion.

  9. Makka

    Don’t put up copies of spreadsheets without an explanation, FFS.

    Which part of “payments to just one contractor” can’t you comprehend, numbnuts?

    The other link in the same posts breaks it all down for you. Try reading it and then come back to me with any questions where it’s beyond you.

  10. cohenite

    Freedom scores!

    https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2018-table-country-scores

    Sweden gets 100 and England 94; Tommy will be pleased.

  11. Jo Smyth

    Jeff Sessions has suggested DNA tests for illegals and their children. It seems logical but the human rights outcry will be huge.

  12. Makka

    Don’t put up copies of spreadsheets without an explanation, FFS.

    Which part of “payments to just one contractor” is beyond your comprehension, numbnuts?

    I’ve also posted the whole article for context to help out. Once you have read it, let me know if there is anything there beyond you.

  13. Makka

    Hey, double post- huh?

  14. Eyrie

    jeez cohenite, you mean this shit stained jail toilet rates as “free” with a score of 98? FMD

  15. I’ll be speaking at this event, so bring your over-sized Australian flags and join in.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/1008489289289854/

  16. Mother Lode

    Adolf
    Karl
    Joe
    Mao
    Pol
    Idi

    You remembered them (although Marx was not a leader).

    Trick is to make sure you’re are good ones – because weak ones would leave you prey to the bad ones.

    In your haste to score ‘gotchas’, Septimus, you are being an idiot.

  17. Riccardo Bosi
    #2742636, posted on June 20, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    I’ll be speaking at this event, so bring your over-sized Australian flags and join in.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/1008489289289854/

    Retweeted Ric

  18. Makka

    How China’s Economic Aggression Threatens the Technologies

    and Intellectual Property of the United States and the World

    https://www.scribd.com/document/382162398/WH-Trade-and-Economic-Policy-China#download&from_embed

  19. Frank

    SBS currently has full-time coverage of the World Cup. It’s impossible to tell who out of the two hosts, Lucy Zelic and Craig Foster, has had the most work done. Well and truly into Zuckerbergesque uncanny valley territory.

  20. Entropy

    Oh great. Current Affair has a Qld pastoralist on it. This will be based on her submission to the banking enquiry, which has a vague resemblance with what has happened. They are one of those ‘go to’ people the media have when the want some hard luck stories in ‘the bush’. Let’s just say there won’t be too much reality there, and there won’t be too many local fans. These people have used up all local goodwill. She probably drove some bank Johnny to despair. Yet another Landmark disaster.

  21. egg_

    We’ve already been on the biggest…

    Stabbucks of the Seas?

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The revolution begins

    Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap started with thirty four men and women…

  23. Delta A

    Bruce of Newcastle, you have alluded to problems with washing the green bags – and indeed, their production – but I cannot find posts explaining this. Could you please put something up here for dimwits like me?

  24. Rae

    In my opinion.

    LOL. Don’t give yourself too much credit. You don’t have an opinion of your own. On Starbucks, and on other things here, you are just another follower of the hive mind. One of the lobsters*.

    * h/t – Jordan Peterson.

  25. Geriatric Mayfly

    Still quite giddy and blinded by the bright lights, but today, for the first time in 12 months, I descended from the Plains of Sodom to visit the capital. My first encounter was with the Bollards of Peace, and never having see such a stunning array of cubes before, I paused. Each, I noted, has a cavity on top in which rainwater had gathered and all filled to overflowing with cigarette buts. A bit excessive on the part of the Government to provide these giant ashtrays, especially in this current climate of rampant wowserism.

  26. Baldrick

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws. It’s part of an industry led approach supported by the @TurnbullMalcolm Govt to curb the 13m tonnes of plastic that makes its ways into our oceans globally each yr.

    Check out the pictures at the link, complete with token Muslim.

  27. None

    Surfed on to Tom Ballard’s show last night out of curiosity.
    He and his cast were doing a Euridice Dixon bit about the police trivialising r-ape.
    Bold as brass on the ABC tit.

    A gay man accused of sexually assaulting a heterosexual man wants to tell us women about r-ape. Fukwit doesn’t begin to describe Tom Ballard.

  28. None

    So tell me what do people use in hospitals when they can’t drink from a cup if not straws?

  29. nemkat

    Stainless steel straw, darl.
    Cost ya $7 and lasts a lifetime

  30. Slayer of Memes

    FBI Official: FBI Agents Threatened Physical Harm to President Trump In Missing FBI Texts & Other “Frightening” Communications

    “This is much larger than just texts between two FBI agents.”

    A high-ranking FBI official confirms a number of the missing 50,000 FBI text messages — as well as other text and email messages among FBI brass — reportedly discussed initiating physical harm to President Donald Trump.

    The FBI official urged the U.S. Department of Homeland Security — which oversees the U.S. Secret Service — to launch an investigation of the Justice Department, the FBI and all text messages missing and otherwise that threatened the President.

    “This is dangerous territory and all FBI text messages and personal phones should be examined,” the official said. “It would reveal some frightening conversations.”

    Did FBI brass discuss the assassination of President Donald Trump? If not, what was the nature of the threats against the president from inside the alleged premiere law enforcement agency in the United States?

    (Director) Wray wants a lid on this,” the FBI official said. “Many know there was talk of harming Trump politically but there is a group here (in D.C. HQ) that understands it goes deeper. We need a special counsel or Homeland Security. Somebody has to clean this up outside of DOJ. It is unacceptable.

    “This is much larger than just texts between two FBI agents.”

    The FBI official called on President Trump to do what is necessary to weed out corruption in the FBI.

    “Text messages just don’t disappear,” the FBI official said. “Not here. Someone outside DOJ has to look at all emails and texts. These (FBI bosses) are bad people. You’ve only scratched the surface.”

    The high-ranking FBI official called on lawmakers and the Inspector General to focus on the text and email messages of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. The official referred to McCabe’s official and personal correspondences “an anti-Trump treasure trove.”

    As reported in March 2017 by True Pundit, McCabe openly threatened President Trump and then-National Security Adviser Gen. Mike Flynn, saying first we “Fuck Flynn and then we Fuck Trump” to several high-ranking FBI bosses who cheered his comment.

    From that True Pundit Exclusive:

    <blockquote>McCabe, the second highest ranking FBI official, emphatically declared at the invite-only gathering with raised voice: “Fuck Flynn and then we Fuck Trump,” according to direct sources. Many of his top lieutenants applauded and cheered such rhetoric. A scattered few did not.

    This was one of several such meetings held in seclusion among key FBI leaders since Trump was elected president, FBI sources confirm. At the congregation where McCabe went off the political rails and vowed to destroy Flynn and Trump, there were as many as 16 top FBI officials, inside intelligence sources said. No lower-level agents or support personnel were present.

    If you are among the millions of Americans who have pondered in recent months whether the Obama-era “Deep State” intelligence apparatus and FBI are working for or against Trump, this is the first definitive proof that the country’s once-premiere law enforcement agency has gone rogue.

    The non-elected hierarchy that steer the FBI have declared war on President Trump and his White House inner circle. Make no mistake.

    Flynn has since been indicted and plead guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI from an investigation supervised by McCabe after a FBI interview conducted by Peter Strzok, one of the agents busted sending anti-Trump texts. And Trump remains under investigation by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, a figure linked to several conflicts of interest in the case including prior deals with McCabe.

    As reported yesterday in True Pundit, members of the FBI and Justice Department’s top brass at their Washington D.C.headquarters and other field offices are now using burner phones to stay under the radar of federal investigators and lawmakers, according to FBI insiders.

    The shocking revelations come on the heels of news that the FBI deleted thousands of text messages between anti-Trump FBI agents before investigators could review their content.

    While that is disturbing on one level, FBI and DOJ hierarchy employing the telecom habits of drug cartel bosses reaches a new low for the once-heralded federal law enforcement agency and the DOJ. And breaks federal laws as well.

    The FBI “failed to preserve” five months worth of text messages exchanged between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, the two FBI employees who made pro-Clinton and anti-Trump comments while working on the Clinton email and the Russia collusion investigations.

    And now more text messages are missing from more FBI agents, according to the Justice Department.

    That means 50,000 text messages.

    Fifty.

    Thousand.

    Per The Hill yesterday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Monday announced the Justice Department will investigate missing text messages sent between two FBI agents critical of President Trump, joining the chorus of Republican lawmakers who are eager to recover the exchange.

    GOP officials have seized on the messages as evidence of FBI bias against Trump in the probes into Russian election meddling and Hillary Clinton‘s use of a private email server as secretary of State.

    “We will leave no stone unturned to confirm with certainty why these text messages are not now available to be produced and will use every technology available to determine whether the missing messages are recoverable from another source,” Sessions said in a statement.

    mUnty last seen in Melton, loading dead squirrels into his car….

  31. Snoopy

    What’s wrong with waxed paper straws? Like what was used in the olden days.

  32. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws. It’s part of an industry led approach supported by the @TurnbullMalcolm Govt to curb the 13m tonnes of plastic that makes its ways into our oceans globally each yr.

    The greatest pollutant in Australia is our plastic PM, his plastic Ministers and the plastic Liberal Party.

  33. Rae

    So tell me what do people use in hospitals when they can’t drink from a cup if not straws?

    Voice from the grave:

    Articulated straws used in hospitals are unlikely to be left on beaches or in oceans. Extremely unlikely.

    End of séance …

  34. Bruce of Newcastle

    Delta – It’s only the hypocrisy of it all.

    The thin HDPE bags are sterile, very light and have little energy content. So if you wash a cloth bag you immediately use more energy and water in your washing machine than the single use HDPE bag cost to produce. But if you don’t wash the cloth bag (or any such reusable bag) it gets colonized with bacteria. On top of that the cloth bag, or heavier reusable bag, uses more energy and materials to produce. Which is why the UK study found that a cloth bag had to be used 131 times before it surpassed the energy and materials in 130 single use HDPE bags.

    So by replacing single use by reusable the green weenies are producing a worse environmental and worse energy outcome than if they stuck to single use bags.

    My position is if the supermarket companies are scared of killing sea turtles they should give out cornstarch single use bags. A turtle eating one would digest it pretty well I should think.

    But they wouldn’t be able to charge for them.

    Likewise if they put boxes out to be reused they wouldn’t be able to charge for them either. But reusing boxes is even better in the green virtue stakes because they are just recycled now. So using one a second time then recycling would make Gaia swoon.

  35. Entropy

    The Stuart’s from mount Morris on current affair too! This is amazing. The banks suffered for a decade before finally moving in them.
    And the vineys always run more cattle than they should. Bob Katter would be well advised not to align with them.

  36. nemkat

    That wax was paraffin.
    No good for your health. Plus, if some diseased immigrant touched the straw before you, you’re fucked.
    Just spend the $7 on a stainless steel straw and stop fucking whingeing, FFS.

  37. candy

    The bacteria build up in stainless straws would be frightening. Who is going to wash them properly.
    Also the cloth shopping bags with bits of food left in the bottom. It’s a disaster.

  38. Rae

    if you wash a cloth bag you immediately use more energy and water in your washing machine than the single use HDPE bag cost to produce

    Why are you going to wash a cloth bag, or another re-usable shopping bag? I don’t do it, and I don’t know anyone else who does. The stuff you put in it when you shop is already in hygienic packaging.

    #thegreatplasticcheckoutbagoutrage2018

  39. Delta A

    Thanks for that, BoN.

    The cornstarch bags seem like a good alternative, but I suspect nothing is more appealing to ColesWorth than a few extra cents squeezed from their customers via an incredibly gullible and stupid government.

  40. Snoopy

    If I see someone using a stainless steel straw I will congratulate them with a hearty slap on the back.

  41. stackja

    Will convicted DOJ/FBI officials need special prisons?

  42. nemkat

    There’s a long necked bottle brush that comes with your stainless steel straw, Candy.
    Use the brush and voila, no bacteria.
    Reusable bags?
    Why bother, just pay Woolies the 15c.

  43. candy

    The stuff you put in it when you shop is already in hygienic packaging.

    ha ha. Vegies and fruit already in plastic bags. Are those bags being dispensed with too? the ones you put your apples in etc.
    Grapes squash, etc, and meat leaks easily if the plastic is dented. One would need to wash those re-usable bags carefully.

  44. egg_

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws. It’s part of an industry led approach supported by the @TurnbullMalcolm Govt to curb the 13m tonnes of plastic that makes its ways into our oceans globally each yr.

    The greatest pollutant in Australia is our plastic PM, his plastic Ministers and the plastic Liberal Party.

    Parliament’s plastic flotsam bans plastic flotsam.
    News at 11.

  45. stackja

    Will Greens bacteria create an epidemic?

  46. candy

    There’s a long necked bottle brush that comes with your stainless steel straw, Candy.
    Use the brush and voila, no bacteria.

    As if people will do that, nemkat. It will be run the tap into for a second and that’s it. It is safer to drink from the drink container and not use them.

  47. Beachcomber

    lower energy costs ( coal), reducing taxation, cutting immigration
    = Australian Conservatives.

    If Australian Conservative can penetrate the cone of silence imposed by the media they could do very well at the next election. They should hold some public meetings and rallies. When the Labor-Green/Union/University leftist thugs turn up to shut them down it will be misreported by the media as ‘right-wing extremists’ causing violence; but at least they will get some profile and they may get some traction as people see through the media lies.

  48. Gab

    Plastic bags and straws – it’s the idiotic light bulb all over again.

  49. Snoopy

    If the demise of single-use *cough* plastic bags was consumer driven why did Colesworths need to stop offering them?

  50. egg_

    #thegreatcheckoutgouge2018

    FTFY.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    The stuff you put in it when you shop is already in hygienic packaging.

    The chains are keen to phase out plastic packaging. Anyway do you put all your veges into plastic bags before sticking them into the cesspit of a cloth bag? How many small plastic bags does it take to wrap a bunch of celery? That defeats the purpose of banning plastic bags only to use different plastic bags…

    Woolworths said all its stores in Australia and New Zealand will no longer sell plastic straws by the end of this year. It also will offer reusable shopping bags when it phases out plastic shopping bags on June 20, and will expand its program to remove plastic wrap from fruit and vegetable for another 80 products.

    The problem with bacterial contamination of reused bags is that it is unlikely that the chain of causation can be followed back to the supermarket if you catch something horrid and die. Which I suspect the supermarket chains and their lawyers would be quite happy about.

  52. Eyrie

    “So by replacing single use by reusable the green weenies are producing a worse environmental and worse energy outcome than if they stuck to single use bags.”
    So typical of green policies, achieving the opposite of what they intend.

  53. egg_

    Will Greens bacteria create an epidemic?

    +1

    Grannies’ mouldy cloth bags and mothballs at teh checkout.
    And then there’s the shopping bags…

  54. nemkat

    Just drank some cream off the top of the bath milk,Candy.
    Not bad.
    Then i gave the straw the old one two under the tap with the brush and it’s as good as a new one.
    Plus, I saved a dugong.

  55. Rae

    ha ha. Vegies and fruit already in plastic bags. Are those bags being dispensed with too? the ones you put your apples in etc.
    Grapes squash, etc, and meat leaks easily if the plastic is dented. One would need to wash those re-usable bags carefully.

    For Heavens sake, candy. Are you blonde?

    The heavy duty cling wrap for pumpkin pieces, zucchini, etc and the tear off bags for self selected fruit and veggies go in your bin. They are entirely different to the throw-away-on-the-beach-or-in-the-ocean checkout bags.

  56. None

    Imagine Josh frydenberg epitaph: I banned plastic straws.

    We are governed by arse clowns.

  57. cohenite

    Jimmy Hansen started the global warming scam and the old bastard is still lying through his teeth:

    Wearing a cream-coloured suit, the soft-spoken son of Iowan tenant farmers hunched over the microphone in Washington to explain that humans had entered a confronting new era. “The greenhouse effect has been detected and it is changing our climate now,” he said.

    Afterwards, Hansen told reporters: “It is time to stop waffling so much and say that the evidence is pretty strong that the greenhouse effect is here.” He brandished new research that forecast that 1988 was set to be the warmest year on record, as well as projections for future heat under three different emissions scenarios. The world has dutifully followed Hansen’s “scenario B” – we are “smack on it” it, Hansen said last week – with global temperatures jumping by around 1C (34F) over the past century.

    Hansen’s scenario B compared with real data.

  58. Slayer of Memes

    Oh yeah… that bag ban thing started today, didn’t it…

    So THAT’S why I got a thousand-yard-death-stare when I left all my shopping (including two large 4Lt tubs of ice-cream) on the counter of my local Woolies today when I walked out after being told I should have brought my own bags

    Funny how the local IGA store still had bags… Guess where I am shopping from now on

  59. Drink-Up Socrates

    Huge Congrats to Sinc et al; not for the book; which was a great read; but for appropriating the Left tactic of ‘putting it out there for the herd to follow’.
    Finally, someone has learned the tactic. Their ABC is now on the defensive. And all the critics have to do now is to refer back to the foundation statement. “The ABC is illegitimate”.
    From now, it is easy.
    I was not all that impressed by their presentation at the Friedman, but I was wrong. Smart folks – go forth and destroy.

  60. Bruce in WA

    LOL. Don’t give yourself too much credit. You don’t have an opinion of your own. On Starbucks, and on other things here, you are just another follower of the hive mind. One of the lobsters*.

    Riiiiiigghht! Whatever floats your boat … errr, cruise ship … Rae.

  61. Slayer of Memes

    The heavy duty cling wrap for pumpkin pieces, zucchini, etc and the tear off bags for self selected fruit and veggies go in your bin. They are entirely different to the throw-away-on-the-beach-or-in-the-ocean checkout bags.

    Can’t tell if sarcastic, or actually serious….

  62. Rae

    Funny how the local IGA store still had bags… Guess where I am shopping from now on

    But not for long.

    Funny how you made that story up, though.

  63. Empire 5:5

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws. It’s part of an industry led approach supported by the @TurnbullMalcolm Govt to curb the 13m tonnes of plastic that makes its ways into our oceans globally each yr.

    Communist.

  64. Gab

    IGA is also joining the idiots. They stop with the plastic bags 30th June/

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Funny how the local IGA store still had bags… Guess where I am shopping from now on

    Yep. For the next ten days…enjoy it while you can.

  66. None

    You just need to walk down the aisles of a supermarket to see mountains of packaging. Over in the refrigeratora alone are plastic covered cheeses and plastic yoghurt containers and plastic milk bottles. It is just endless. But oh the fuckwits at Coles and Woolies are going to remove plastic from 80 fruit and vegetable products. If they really believe their own s*** then just shut down the stores now for false advertising. They are not supermarkets are homes for imbeciles
    Banning single use plastic bags is not about the environment or anything else. It is about saving money for the supermarket chains. Nothing else. I have that from a very very senior executive’s mouth. It’s money for them and hollow virtue signalling by politicians trying to suck up to this f****** Greenies and doctor’s wives.

  67. nemkat

    Baldrick
    #2742660
    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg

    Check out the pictures at the link, complete with token Muslim.

    She was the only midget the agency could find.

  68. Baldrick

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws.

    Stock up on plastic straws now and don’t forget to get enough for family and friends.

  69. Rae

    I have that from a very very senior executive’s mouth.

    LOL. Sure.

  70. DrBeauGan

    with global temperatures jumping by around 1C (34F) over the past century.

    I like the way a 1°C increase turns into a 34°F increase. Someone innumerate multiplied 1 by 9/5 , which is right, and then added 32. Which is moronic.

  71. H B Bear

    And slowly a darkness descended, a quick check of the watch, verily the socking hour is upon us.

  72. candy

    They are entirely different to the throw-away-on-the-beach-or-in-the-ocean checkout bags.

    Rae, I’ve never thrown a plastic bag on the beach ever or in the ocean ever. I don’t live on the coast.

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

  73. H B Bear

    Someone needs to ask Fraudenberg how much of that global 13m tonnes of plastic comes from Australia? 1.5% like our carbon [sic] emissions?

    Seriously, how could the Liars be worse than this? Yeah Plibbers, kd wrong, Granny Macklin, Dougie … you know they will be … and yet I don’t really care.

  74. Roger

    Two days ago our internet crashed, leaving us reliant on connection via iphone.

    Telstra assured us they were on to it.

    After 24 hours and hearing nothing, we rang and were advised a tech had examined our junction box and pronounced it all clear. But we still had no internet, we reported.

    Diagnostic tests were run and were inconclusive.

    “We think it’s an NBN problem (installed for all of four months, mind you) and we will inform them.”

    Maladroit’s legacy is not going to be favourably recorded. I hope he lives long enough to see it.

  75. Rae

    I like the way a 1°C increase turns into a 34°F increase. Someone innumerate multiplied 1 by 9/5 , which is right, and then added 32. Which is moronic.

    Don’t overthink it, Doc. 1°C = 34°F. Someone has just made an incorrect assumption. Probably not moronic*.

    [* Just your ego showing there.]

  76. Confused Old Misfit

    I like the way a 1°C increase turns into a 34°F increase. Someone innumerate multiplied 1 by 9/5 , which is right, and then added 32.

    “Science” editors!!!

  77. Rae

    I’ve never thrown a plastic bag on the beach ever or in the ocean ever.

    Lots of unthinking people do. And in other waterways too.

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And slowly a darkness descended, a quick check of the watch, verily the socking hour is upon us.

    Fortunately, soon to be followed by the inhalation of quality alcohol….

  79. Snoopy

    I like the way a 1°C increase turns into a 34°F increase. Someone innumerate multiplied 1 by 9/5 , which is right, and then added 32. Which is moronic.

    Oliver Milman the environment reporter for The Guardian US is credited with that embarassing tosh. Give him a serve on Twitter @olliemilman.

  80. Slayer of Memes

    Funny how you made that story up, though.

    Did I?

    Wow… were you the idiot checkout chick who gave me the death-stare?

    No?

    Then fuck off, dipshit…

  81. Rae

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

    Brisbane. On the Brisbane River. Which flows into the ocean.

  82. John Constantine

    Spirit Feelings were responsible for the zip zag path of the wimmera mallee water pipeline.

    No anthropology or cultural surveys, just kids from centerlink queues without a full high school education, given a short cultural immersion course, hivis shirts and expected to magically feel the presence of Spirits.

    And given the power to make pipe laying crews zig zag at will.

    Halting the western highway works for spirits, if it works, opens up everything.

    Spirit trees, spirit rocks, spirit waters.

    Even Spirit Land Title, which can never be put aside by white man’s words written on white man’s paper.

    Their Teflon Clark is on an unbeatable winner.

    Uncle Comrade.

  83. Confused Old Misfit

    Oliver Milman the environment reporter for The Guardian US is credited with that embarassing tosh. Give him a serve on Twitter @olliemilman.

    With pleasure!

  84. BorisG

    Back in the Soviet Union we did not have free plastic bags. The whole concept of a shop buying stuff and giving it away for free was foreign. everyone came with their special bags, usually simply netted bags https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_bag.

    you can picture people with a number of these bags full on a crowded bus…

  85. Rae

    Funny how you made that story up, though.

    Did I?

    … fuck off, dipshit…

    Yes. You did. Dipshit.

  86. Snoopy

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

    Speaking just for myself, when I get the urge to choke a turtle I damn well make the effort.

  87. Slayer of Memes

    Rae, I’ve never thrown a plastic bag on the beach ever or in the ocean ever. I don’t live on the coast.

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

    Most people throw their ‘single-use’ bags in the bin….
    ..the same bin the plastic wrap from their pumpkin, (single) cucumbers/zucchini, tear-off fruit bags, etc goes into…

  88. Slayer of Memes

    Yes. You did. Dipshit.

    No. No I did not.

    Prove that I did. Fuckwit

  89. nemkat

    H B Bear
    #2742717, posted on June 20, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    Translation:
    Discontinuing Plastic straws and one use plastic bags is the Greatest Moral Challenge of Our Time, therefore, Vote Labor.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Plastic bans sums up Australian politics.

    The art of seeming and virtue signalling rather than doing.

    Turnbull now responsible for banning plastic bags and the iridescent light bulb, perhaps the two most useful inventions of the 20th century.

  91. Baldrick

    Anyone know how to kill a Grey Nurse shark with a plastic shopping bag?
    Asking for a friend.

  92. John Constantine

    Inland of the Great Dividing Range, an awful lot of the country simply drains into the desert.

    Their turnbullites election winning machine has just saved the dolphins of Lake Eyre and spat in the face of their base to do it.

    Plus frankenstabby Bishop got to boast about revolting against the Will of Trump.

    Just another day as freedom fighters for Stalin’s revolutionary struggle.

    Comrades.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    Back in the Soviet Union we did not have free plastic bags.

    So you’ll feel right at home in Australia then.

  94. BorisG

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

    Brisbane is not on the ocean? on the map it is…

  95. rickw

    Contractor has been trying to install cheap stop gap equipment purchased from India.

    It is shit in every conceivable way, it is like a huge amount of effort was spent designing it to be specifically shit. Even the U bracket one of the displays is mounted on is shit. How can you make a U bracket shit?! They found a way!, fold it up out of recycled fire extinguisher tags! There has been no expense spared in designing it to be shit.

    Then again, I should have known based on my previous experience. Would you like this done the right way or the cheap and shitty way? The cheap and shitty way please! Why did I bother asking?!

  96. H B Bear

    Plastic bans sums up Australian politics.
    The art of seeming and virtue signalling rather than doing.

    Exactly. It is the Federal equivalent of a new set of local government councilors whose first action is to change the colour of the street signs and change the bus shelters.

    The only sad thing is Malcolm Fraser didn’t live long enough to see Lord Waffleworth erase his legacy as the most useless, do nothing Lieboral PM since the war. I will retract this if Waffles does actually result in a Lieboral split in Opposition.

  97. rickw

    How do people in Brisbane or who live rurally go about throwing bags in the ocean?

    Has any of these stupid pricks had a shopping bag exposed to UV light more than 24 hours?!

    FMD, these days virtually nothing lasts and yet some devious minds have devised a shopping bag that can spend a 1000 years killing dolphins, turtles and grey nurse sharks before it gets its first tear.

  98. mh

    Bolt and Price taking on the plastic bag nazis again.

  99. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Looks like Pauline will pass the tax cuts.

  100. rickw

    So you’ll feel right at home in Australia then.

    Australia is a land full of homesick communists, each day they become a little less homesick.

  101. cohenite

    Turnbull now responsible for banning plastic bags and the iridescent light bulb, perhaps the two most useful inventions of the 20th century.

    Don’t forget the ban on bonking. Turdball is worse than krudd because krudd saved the liars, turdball got rid of Abbott and will destroy the libs; only slappers is ahead of him now.

  102. nemkat

    Not much UV light in the rivers and ocean, cobber.
    I’ve dug up plastic waste on the out of an old tip, and I could read the writing on the bag from 30+ years before.

  103. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Discontinuing Plastic straws and one use plastic bags is the Greatest Moral Challenge of Our Time, therefore, Vote Labor.

    I just ordered 5000 straws. $20

  104. nemkat

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2742755
    Looks like Pauline will pass the tax cuts.

    Beauty.
    Turnbull is looking like a winner.
    Took a while, but the Abbott disaster wasn’t his fault.

  105. Eyrie

    I can think of a good use for two plastic bags.

  106. Robber Baron

    Well done Ricardo, take back the word “PRIDE” from the gays. Awesome stuff. God bless you.

  107. Gab

    I’d only need one to do it, Eyrie.

  108. Pickles

    Australia’s ar fatter eating less veggies and are living longer. There as they say you have it. All we have to link is drinking more piss and there’s that problem solved.

  109. candy

    Most people throw their ‘single-use’ bags in the bin….
    ..the same bin the plastic wrap from their pumpkin, (single) cucumbers/zucchini, tear-off fruit bags, etc goes into…

    I actually think most people conserve them for use with other stuff and only throw them out when they are full of rubbish, dog droppings, ripped or spoiled in some way. I mean, doesn’t everyone put them in a drawer in the kitchen for use when needed? It’s hard to envisage anyone just chucking out useful plastic bags. However, Woolies and Coles say people demand the bags be got rid of …

  110. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2742748, posted on June 20, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Back in the Soviet Union we did not have free plastic bags.

    You didn’t have anything to put in them either, so no harm done.

  111. John Constantine

    https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2018/06/14/whats-really-behind-the-eu-law-that-would-ban-memes-and-how-to-stop-it-before-june-20/

    Their EU out to tax sharing links on the internet.

    Whats the bet frothy old foamystabby has already signed us up to this as well?.

    [ and rung high level trump administration officials to lecture them as well?.]

    Is the Trumpnado missing the chance to scan incoming phone calls and see what godless commo clintonists are taking phone calls from bishop- and fire them?.

  112. mh

    Serial killers like Tony always find plenty of uses for plastic bags.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdV1oQe0Cb0

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Exactly. It is the Federal equivalent of a new set of local government councilors whose first action is to change the colour of the street signs and change the bus shelters.

    Always a laugh driving down Great Eastern Hwy and seeing Bayswater Council advertising themselves as a “Nuclear Free Town”.

  114. Inlaws around for dinner, this always makes FIL Jugulum happy

  115. candy

    Brisbane is not on the ocean? on the map it is…

    I’d have to drive an hour to chuck my plastic bag in the ocean, Boris.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    Not much UV light in the rivers and ocean, cobber.
    I’ve dug up plastic waste on the out of an old tip, and I could read the writing on the bag from 30+ years before.

    Did you eat what was in the bag? Might explain your brain damage.

  117. H B Bear

    Always a laugh driving down Great Eastern Hwy and seeing Bayswater Council advertising themselves as a “Nuclear Free Town”.

    That’s the one place that needs it. Or maybe Freo or Vincent.

  118. Infidel Tiger

    Bolt and Price taking on the plastic bag nazis again.

    Shorten Govt will repeal in 12 months.

  119. candy

    Looks like Pauline will pass the tax cuts.
    Beauty.
    Turnbull is looking like a winner.

    I think the time of flat taxes has passed. A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good. The cost of power, car rego, just food even, hits the low income earner much harder as they have less disposable cash.
    None actually.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You didn’t have anything to put in them either, so no harm done.

    There’s an old joke from the Soviet era

    “I’m sorry, it’s next door where they don’t have meat, it’s here where we don’t have fruit or vegetables.”

  121. 132andBush

    Rae,
    I’m guessing you’re stocking up on flexible plastic straws before they’re banned?

  122. egg_

    I can think of a good use for two plastic bags.

    There’s a couple that hang around every night.

  123. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Turnbull is looking like a winner.

    He’ll find some way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  124. JC

    I think the time of flat taxes has passed. A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good.

    Candy, a person on $40,000 is NOT paying the same tax as the person on $200,000. He’s paying less, much less.

    10% of 40,000 = 4000
    10% of 200,000 = 20000

    Try and think a little harder.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    I think the time of flat taxes has passed. A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good. The cost of power, car rego, just food even, hits the low income earner much harder as they have less disposable cash.
    None actually.

    Rather than gobbing off on the internet like a moron, buy a calculator and learn what “tax rate” means.

  126. JC

    Looks like Pauline will pass the tax cuts.
    Beauty.

    It’s happened before with her, last year some time. The government was ready to go, said she would vote in favor of some legislation and flaked on them by voting no.

    Don’t trust this dummy until she’s voted in support.

  127. H B Bear

    Candy would be an excellent candidate for that new Aberscreechinomics degree. Is it available by distance ed?

  128. C.L.

    Josh Frydenberg ✔ @JoshFrydenberg
    As of today, Woolworths will phase out single use plastic bags. Soon, they’ll also stop selling plastic straws. It’s part of an industry led approach supported by the @TurnbullMalcolm Govt

    The Liberal Party – they banned straws.

  129. Rae

    Yes. You did. Dipshit.

    No. No I did not.

    Prove that I did. Fuckwit

    Sure, you did.

    Prove that you didn’t. Fuckwit.

  130. candy

    Candy, a person on $40,000 is NOT paying the same tax as the person on $200,000. He’s paying less, much less.

    JC, it’s not the amount as a proportion. It’s what is left over, and a person on $40,000 paying 30% tax has much much less disposable income left over (none), than a person $200,000 paying 30% tax after meeting power bills and accommodation.

  131. Tel

    Oliver Milman the environment reporter for The Guardian US is credited with that embarassing tosh. Give him a serve on Twitter @olliemilman.

    Ask him which school he went to so we have some suggestions for budget repair, because whatever they do at that school, they sure ain’t teaching anything.

  132. H B Bear

    Looks like Pauline will pass the tax cuts.

    I heard Pauline on ALPBC radio news talking about the tax cuts. I almost had to pull over and have a cry for this country and it’s democracy.

  133. nemkat

    A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good.

    The rate is the only thing that’s the same.
    The reality is that the person on $200,000 pays 7 or 8 times the amount of tax the bloke on $40,000 does.

  134. JC

    buy a calculator and learn what “tax rate” means.

    No she doesn’t, she just needs to think a little harder. In any event don’t be so harsh on her, as she once claimed to have a pert bottom and I love pert bottoms on sheilas. They can be as dumb as a retarded mongoose, but a pert rear makes up for it.

  135. Slayer of Memes

    Sure, you did.
    Prove that you didn’t. Fuckwit.

    Beat you by 31 minutes….

    Fuckwit.

  136. Infidel Tiger

    Alice Workman

    @workmanalice

    OK SO the Greens accidentally voted for Stage 2 of personal tax cuts (by opposing a Labor amendment)

    They only realised this when Labor pointed it out…

    Peter Whish-Wilson then made a statement saying they didn’t mean to do this… but it was too late.

    THE SENATE!!!

    Democracy! Good and hard.

  137. candy

    JC, it’s not the amount of tax as a proportion of income, it’s what is left over as disposable income.

    A person on $40,000 paying $30 flat tax will have very little disposable income after rent and accommodation, car costs etc, than a person on $200,000 paying 30% flat tax.

    In days gone by perhaps it would not have mattered as power, accommodation costs were not considered problematic as they are now.

  138. Atoms for Peace

    Let’s not forget the government largesse that showers down upon those at a certain income level.

  139. Old School Conservative

    everyone came with their special bags, usually simply netted bags

    Ah the good ol’ days of stay at home mums walking to the local butcher/baker/greengrocer for the daily dinner ingredients, pulling their two-wheeled shopping cart. Netted bags for the “small shop”.
    Mary Hopkin reflects.

  140. nemkat

    OK SO the Greens accidentally voted for Stage 2 of personal tax cuts (by opposing a Labor amendment)

    They only realised this when Labor pointed it out…

    Bullshit they made a mistake.
    They’ve got either Hanson or the ALP off the hook, but it ain’t no mistake.

  141. H B Bear

    IT – the Greens used to do that all the time when they had the gumnut twins from WA there. They probably should have written it on the back of their hands before they went in.

  142. Rae

    123KateBush. You’re guessing wrong. I don’t use, and don’t have, any plastic straws. I do have some of the grey checkout bags. I fill one of them with the others. When I need to, I use one for rubbish disposal, other than kitchen waste, in the bin that gets collected each week.

  143. Slayer of Memes

    The number of Labor supporters claiming that ‘the Greens always oppose anything Labor wants’ and “greens always side with the Coalition’ on that twitter thread you posted is incredible, IT…

    It’s like watching something from another world…

  144. candy

    Let’s not forget the government largesse that showers down upon those at a certain income level.

    Earners up to even I think $150,00 get some kind family tax benefits and bulk billing if they seek it or can go to public hospitals, send their kids to public schools.
    It’s all there for everyone virtually in Australia.

  145. JC

    Tell me something, Candy. Lets say you’re you come to my house or see me in the street, pull a gun on me and demand my wallet. I give you my wallet, which has a couple hundred dollars. You take the money and give it a couple of hobos you see in the street. The cops find and arrest you, but you tell them you weren’t really stealing because you gave the money away to a couple of hobos who needed it more. Let be even more hypothetical and say the cops don’t buy your argument ( reason to doubt that these days especially with the Vicpol) and the charge you with stealing.

    Why is the government allowed to take money from my labor or anyone else, but that is not stealing? The analogy is identical.

    What you seem to have a problem with is cost of living pressures, as per your last comment. Electricity, Rego etc are all government imposts that have been rising more than the rate of inflation. Unfortunately, for over a decade in Australia, I’ve never heard one discussion about the importance of maintaining purchasing power.

  146. Pedro the Ignorant

    I am a pretty clean and tidy person, but I have never in my life;

    a. washed a plastic shopping bag and don’t intend to start now, and
    b. the very idea of re-using a drinking straw, stainless steel, plastic or wax paper disgusts me.

    Next weekend’s shopping list includes a packet of about a thousand plastic shopping bags that should keep me going for the next forty years or so.

    The dolphins and grey nurse sharks can get stuffed.

  147. JC

    In days gone by perhaps it would not have mattered as power, accommodation costs were not considered problematic as they are now.

    Every single one of those problems without exception is government created.

  148. Atoms for Peace

    But as a proportion Candy……

  149. Robber Baron

    I think the time of flat taxes has passed. A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good.

    That’s right, those that are more productive and earn more deserve to keep less. The propaganda is strong my friend. This country is so fucked.

  150. Confused Old Misfit

    Income Marginal tax rate Tax payable
    $0-$18,200 0% Nil
    $18,201- $37,000 19% 19 cents for each $1 over $18,200**
    $37,001-$87,000 32.5% $3,572 plus 32.5 cents for each dollar over $37,000
    $87,001-$180,000 37% $19,822 plus 37 cents for each dollar over $87,000
    $180,001 and above 47%* $54,232 plus 47* cents for each dollar over $180,000

    All these rates a criminally high.

  151. Rae

    Sure, you did.
    Prove that you didn’t. Fuckwit.

    Beat you by 31 minutes….

    Fuckwit.

    ROFL.

    Just a picture of a bunch of checkout bags. Proof of nothing that you made up.

    Fuckwit. (Dimwit probably fits you better)

  152. JC

    Earners up to even I think $150,00 get some kind family tax benefits and bulk billing if they seek it or can go to public hospitals, send their kids to public schools.
    It’s all there for everyone virtually in Australia.

    150K, if you have a mortgage doesn’t get you very far after tax. Any give backs are just churning.

  153. egg_

    Barnaby’s ex:

    Hot babe, single, ready to mingle…

  154. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Why is someone making the Cock Hero hero overexcited with a gift of attention?

  155. Empire 5:5

    I think the time of flat taxes has passed. A person on $40,000 paying the same tax as one on $200,000 is not good. The cost of power, car rego, just food even, hits the low income earner much harder as they have less disposable cash.
    None actually.

    http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Argument:_Progressive_taxes_violate_principal_of_equality_before_the_law

    Those who support progressive taxation pretend to be on the moral high ground but, in fact, they have no ground to stand on. Envy, not justice, is at the root of the argument for discriminatory taxation. That is why those who most strongly advocate progressive taxation are in favor of the welfare state. “Law is the bond of civil society, and justice is equality under the law,” wrote Cicero. If we are to restore civil society and move from tax socialism to tax justice, we need to abolish progressive taxation, institute a fair flat tax and limit the size of government. Otherwise, class warfare and welfare will prevail.

  156. Slayer of Memes

    Just a picture of a bunch of checkout bags. Proof of nothing that you made up.

    In that case, show your evidence that I made it up.

    You obviously have some, given by how hard you are pushing that line…

    Go for it. Post the evidence.

  157. Geriatric Mayfly

    pulling their two-wheeled shopping cart.

    A fossick in the garage, a bit of a dust down, some oil to the wheels and maybe the answer to this bag nonsense is at hand.

  158. Robber Baron

    b. the very idea of re-using a drinking straw, stainless steel, plastic or wax paper disgusts me.

    Entrepreneurs please pay attention. Time to develop a straw cleaner.

    But just imagine all the soap suds washed into the ocean and the waste of drinking water. Everything green destroys!

  159. candy

    That’s right, those that are more productive and earn more deserve to keep less.

    Well, I’m not sure all public servants earning over say $100,000 are more productive than say a blue collar worker on say $50,000. Possibly a person who works on a factory line in unskilled work, or a person cleaning the toilets at shopping centres is doing more valuable work than some public servants but receiving half the salary?

  160. JC

    Otherwise, class warfare and welfare will prevail.

    The welfare state will prevail once close to 50% of the voters are stealing (taking welfare) from the other half. We’ve reached that point. Taking into account von Mises’ comment – human wants are unlimited – you can assume we will get to an at least 75% tax rate in the not too distant future. Count on it.

  161. JC

    Well, I’m not sure all public servants earning over say $100,000 are more productive than say a blue collar worker on say $50,000.

    True, which is why a numbet of us and the Cat strongly recommend firing 90% of non-essential public servants with maximum prejudice. Fire them all at Federal, state and local.

  162. Infidel Tiger

    Well, I’m not sure all public servants earning over say $100,000 are more productive than say a blue collar worker on say $50,000. Possibly a person who works on a factory line in unskilled work, or a person cleaning the toilets at shopping centres is doing more valuable work than some public servants but receiving half the salary?

    In a righteous world public servants would all be taxed at 110% and then electrocuted.

  163. JC

    This is how totally fucked we are. Tim Southpaw was raking in $400,000 to take the podium and harass and threaten white people because he basically has a chip on his shoulder he himself wasn’t Caucasian*.

    400 K, has was making a year.

    Just a hunch, I reckon fat lips was rejected by a Caucasian bird and hasn’t got over it.

  164. Infidel Tiger

    Nicholas Reece is what happens when Nemkat and Monty have a baby together.

  165. nemkat

    Serious question:
    Is Slayer of Memes Sarah Silverman?
    You be the Judge:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=dh7ZL3twAcs

  166. Gab

    Officeworks in Melbrune area are of out stock of these singlet bags.

  167. JC

    Officeworks in Melbrune area are of out stock of these singlet bags.

    That’s fine with me. We had a supply of bags to pick up the dog’s poop on the street when taking him on a walk. He can shit where he wants and staying there from now on.

  168. MsDolittle

    @TurnbullMalcolm Govt to curb the 13m tonnes of plastic that makes its ways into our oceans globally each yr.

    So those tankers, bound for China, with loads of our shit didn’t have tarps?

  169. Infidel Tiger

    That’s fine with me. We had a supply of bags to pick up the dog’s poop on the street when taking him on a walk. He can shit where he wants and staying there from now on.

    I am going to have those dog bags banned.

    Make them poop in paper!

  170. Slayer of Memes

    nemkat
    #2742830, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    So the other sock is going to come out to play now too…

    Got too hot for the first sock, so now we’re switching feet…

  171. nemkat

    No, it’s that the slopes chuck the shit in their rivers, and now their rivers are totally fucked.

  172. MsDolittle

    Entrepreneurs please pay attention. Time to develop a straw cleaner.

    They go through the dishwasher just fine. Why problem make?

  173. Gab

    Coles sell bin tidy bags that look very similar to plastic shopping bags, only they’re thicker plastic and made in China.

    Guess that’s what I’ll be using in future.

  174. Boambee John

    Don’t feed the troll, it is causing my Repetitive Scrolling Injury to hurt.

  175. Gab

    And I’m no longer going to do any recycling. Fuck ’em.

  176. Frank

    Turnbull now responsible for banning plastic bags and the iridescent light bulb, perhaps the two most useful inventions of the 20th century.

    Then there is soap and hot water. A vote for the Greens should do it.

  177. nemkat

    I tole ya before, for $7, you get a stainless steel straw and a stainless bottlebrush to clean the fucker.

  178. Old School Conservative

    Nicholas Reece has a terminal case of Abbott Derangement Syndrome.

  179. Atoms for Peace

    Try picking up dog poop in a green bag.

  180. MsDolittle

    a stainless steel straw

    Nup, they ting my crown.

  181. JC

    And I’m no longer going to do any recycling. Fuck ’em.

    Lol. If I throw out anything that’s in the car, I use any bin that’s closest. I don’t give a flying rats about recycling.

  182. Rae

    Go for it. Post the evidence.

    You already posted it. Your kitchen full of discarded grey plastic bags is all you’ve got.

    [Good that you didn’t say “dipshit” or “fuckwit” this time]

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone who recycles is a moron.

    It’s like some bizarre religious observance.

  184. nemkat

    They ting your crown?
    You’re not supposed to deep throat the thing.

  185. .

    nemkat
    #2742842, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:21 pm
    No, it’s that the slopes chuck the shit in their rivers, and now their rivers are totally fucked.

    Proving how woke AF in a non-ironic manner because you’re casually racist eh Gweilo?

    You’re as pretentious as a Marxist Professor or Industrial Relations who went to Eton and uses “fuck” as every second word and takes on a fake and pretentious mockney accent, whilst driving their Volkswagen Jetta to their reserved University parking spot.

    No doubt you believe Trump* is racist because…he isn’t a Democrat.

    (Now, pointing that out ironically makes ME woke AF [I won’t point out the irony because when jokes are explained, they lack humour]).

    Or anyone else, without proof; insert non-approved entity *here*.

  186. Slayer of Memes

    Go for it. Post the evidence.

    You already posted it. Your kitchen full of discarded grey plastic bags is all you’ve got.

    So you agree that the bags ARE evidence that I DID do as I claimed.

    Thanks for that.

    You.
    Fucking.
    DICKHEAD.

  187. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Just bought 3000 singlet checkout bags from ebay. should last me a decade or two.

  188. MsDolittle

    And I’m no longer going to do any recycling. Fuck ’em.

    +1. I’m trying to break the kids on this recycling bollocks too. Stick it where it fits.

  189. Top Ender

    If there are no borders, there are no borders to cross so everybody will stay where they are. If there are no borders there can be no international trade because there are no nations to interact with each other. We can do away with national currencies. We can do away with currency.

    Ira Levin (of The Boys from Brazil fame) posited a society like that in This Perfect Day:

    The novel is set 141 years after the Unification, the establishment of a world government guided by a central computer. The computer, Uni, provides all the members of the human race with everything they need – food, shelter, employment, psychotherapy, and monthly “treatments” that include vaccines, contraceptives, tranquilizers, a drug to prevent messy beard growth, and a medication that reduces aggressiveness and limits the sex drive.

    It’s a perfect world, as described in the children’s rhyme that opens the book:

    Christ, Marx, Wood and Wei, Led us to this perfect day. Marx, Wood, Wei and Christ, All but Wei were sacrificed. Wood, Wei, Christ and Marx, Gave us lovely schools and parks. Wei, Christ, Marx and Wood, Made us humble, made us good.

    Everyone loves Uni, which gives them everything they could want. And the great medical advances of the Unification ensure that everyone lives to the maximum human lifespan of 62. No one questions the wisdom and benevolence of Uni. Except Chip, whose crotchety grandfather gave him that secret and illegal nickname and urged him to try to think about things just before he got his monthly treatment.

    A fair description, although the rest of the article is inaccurate – then again, it is from The Guardian. There are no other countries in This Perfect Day, for Uni rules the whole world.

    Or does it? Chip finds there may be an escape for rebels, after all….

  190. Atoms for Peace

    It has to happen. Some trans species social justice warrior will invent a washable poop bag for their vegan canine.

  191. nemkat

    Did you ever do any ghostwriting for Bob Ellis, Dot?
    Your style looks familiar.

  192. Frank

    In terms of motivating a chip on the shoulder, Tim Soutphommasane would have a few more items on the list before not being white. Like being an oleaginous fat mediocrity and craven apparatchik just for starters.

  193. Infidel Tiger

    +1. I’m trying to break the kids on this recycling bollocks too. Stick it where it fits.

    The recycling bin is much bigger so it can hold much more plastic, engine oil and non-recyclable materials.

  194. JC

    In fact, you should do the direct opposite of “leaving a small foot print”. You actually want to leave as big a footprint as possible. Leave one the size of freaking Everest if you can. That way, you will be remembered or left something to say… I was here.

  195. .

    MsDolittle
    #2742859, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:31 pm
    And I’m no longer going to do any recycling. Fuck ’em.

    +1. I’m trying to break the kids on this recycling bollocks too. Stick it where it fits.

    You’re really forced to go along to get along because of the bins they give you now.

    Blokes I know with kids are furious, you can’t keep nappies on hand.

    Catallaxy ought to run for local government, a joint LDP/ACP ticket, my platform is mass sackings, 90% of revenue goes to roads, rates, rubbish, sewage, water and parks, otherwise privatising as much as possible, cutting rates by at least half/abolishing DA fees and bringing back backyard incinerators.

  196. Frank

    The recycling bin is much bigger so it can hold much more plastic, engine oil and non-recyclable materials.

    Don’t forget batteries.

  197. Megan

    Sorry Gab, I bought two lots from the Doncaster store last week. Clearly not the only one who thought it was a good idea.

    Target gave this bag ban a shot a few years back and eventually had to bring them back. I suspect this might go the same way. I cannot take the ban seriously when I have to buy a cucumber vacuum packed in plastic.
    I will return to my local butcher, fruit shop and deli, bulk buy at Costco and buy my replacement singlet bags from AliExpress.

    I shop at supermarkets for convenience. If I forget a bag and have to buy one then it’s not convenient.

  198. .

    nemkat
    #2742862, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:33 pm
    Did you ever do any ghostwriting for Bob Ellis, Dot?
    Your style looks familiar.

    If you set out to insult me, mission accomplished.

  199. None

    I suspect there’s something in your theory about Soupy, JC. One thing’s for sure: he hates white people, happy to take their money, but hates them. To my mind he’s just an unproncipled big fat racist and racemongering slob. I hope he dies a virgin.

  200. Slayer of Memes

    Looks like the fallout from the IG Report is slowly filling up the swamp…

    FBI special agent Peter Strzok was escorted out of the FBI building on Friday…. described as being ‘on leave while internal disciplinary porcesses’ (according to his attorney) are underway.

    “WUSSIA!!!” screams mUnty, desperately tossing dead squirrels hither and yon..

  201. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Coles sell bin tidy bags that look very similar to plastic shopping bags, only they’re thicker plastic and made in China.

    Search singlet checkout bags on ebay. Depending on size you can pick them up for around $20/1000

  202. egg_

    Someone needs to ask Fraudenberg how much of that global 13m tonnes of plastic comes from Australia? 1.5% like our carbon [sic] emissions?

    Probably far less, going by Asia’s ‘garbage islands’ – Indonesia being one of the worst culprits.

  203. John Constantine

    Don’t worry about those fifteen cent supermarket bags.

    The local shire that just massively boosted council rates no longer services me for rubbish or recycling collection bins.

    Lit up the firepit after the recent rain, and the new placcy bags flame away a real treat.

  204. None

    I’m sorry I mention straws. On the other hand being able to scroll past all the socks and lunatics on mass does have advantages.

  205. MsDolittle

    Blokes I know with kids are furious, you can’t keep nappies on hand.

    If you have 5 or more in your family you can get a bigger bin in my area (sure you have to pay a little more, but not heaps). Engine blocks fit in the recycle fine, getting them to the curb is another matter.

  206. BorisG

    Trump/Mattis sold two F-35 stealth aircraft to Turkey despite strong opposition from Congress. Do people think it is a good idea?

  207. Rae

    So you agree that the bags ARE evidence that I DID do as I claimed.

    Thanks for that.

    You.
    Fucking.
    DICKHEAD.

    Nah. Not by a long chalk. This is what you didn’t provide proof of:

    So THAT’S why I got a thousand-yard-death-stare when I left all my shopping (including two large 4Lt tubs of ice-cream) on the counter of my local Woolies today when I walked out after being told I should have brought my own bags

    A picky of your kitchen full of discarded grey bags doesn’t cut it. A piccy of the checkout chick standing next to your allegedly abandoned goodies might just do it.

    You.
    Fucking.
    DICKHEAD.

    [I like this. It’s fun. You say “dipshit”, so I say “dipshit”. You say “fuckwit”, so I say “fuckwit”. You say “DICKHEAD”, so I say “DICKHEAD”. It has a certain rhythm to it. We’re on a roll.]

    Yes, I know. I threw in a (dimwit) as well. So I’m ahead at the moment?

  208. Makka

    Do people think it is a good idea?

    Do you think Mattis is an idiot too?

  209. None

    Trump/Mattis sold two F-35 stealth aircraft to Turkey despite strong opposition from Congress. Do people think it is a good idea?

    If true, no. It could be part of a bigger play to piss off your arm but it’s still bad in my humble opinion full stop on the other hand it’s good to see it again he’s finally getting on the nose in Turkey.

  210. H B Bear

    Nicholas Reece is what happens when Nemkat and Monty have a baby together.

    Academia is probably the only place that would take an adviser to the KRudd government. Maybe the ALPBC or real estate is pretty much the only other options.

  211. .

    Trump/Mattis sold two F-35 stealth aircraft to Turkey despite strong opposition from Congress. Do people think it is a good idea?

    Sure, Turkey must be weakened.

  212. None

    *Erdoğan it’s finally getting on the nose

  213. MsDolittle

    So glad Grog no longer posts.

  214. egg_

    Sure, Turkey must be weakened.

    Stealth lemons?

  215. Pedro the Ignorant

    Can anyone imagine anything more disgusting than a re-usable stainless drinking straw FFS?

    Spit, rotting milk, decaying sugar granules, and God knows what other filthy disease carrying germs lurking inside a metal tube and then you stick the filthy thing in your gob and suck down all that disgusting stew?

    But you can clean and sterilise it every time you use it, of course.

    Yeah, right.

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So glad Grog no longer posts.

    Yes, but the problem is that the stench of his sock puppets linger on.

  217. Pedro the Ignorant

    We will be told to wash and re-use our toilet paper next.

    Gotta save da planet.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    Reece wants to cut immigration but also thinks it will cause a recession?

    Fme. At least he admits it’s a ponzi.

  219. JC

    Idiots, it’s a feature, not a bug.

    ABC employees have been warned that cladding used in the construction of their head office in Sydney is highly flammable and does not meet safety standards.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    The recycling bin is much bigger so it can hold much more plastic, engine oil and non-recyclable materials.

    You obviously don’t have bin Nazis. We have council bin Nazis who go around and check your recycling bin at 5am if the garbo spotted something suss.

    Did I mention garbos have video cameras aimed at the stuff coming out of your bin as drops out?

    Even Orwell didn’t have bin Nazis in 1984.

  221. Baldrick

    Slayer, the only response you need to send GrigoRae is, “Fuck off”.

  222. Infidel Tiger

    You obviously don’t have bin Nazis. We have council bin Nazis who go around and check your recycling bin at 5am if the garbo spotted something suss.

    Did I mention garbos have video cameras aimed at the stuff coming out of your bin as drops out?

    Even Orwell didn’t have bin Nazis in 1984.

    What are they going to do? Stop collecting your trash? They wouldn’t dare.

    Dump it in local parks and lakes. Fuxk some shit up.

  223. Infidel Tiger

    ABC employees have been warned that cladding used in the construction of their head office in Sydney is highly flammable and does not meet safety standards.

    Good to know.

  224. Brian of Moorabbin

    We will be told to wash and re-use our toilet paper next.

    Back when I did a (brief) stint in the Army Reserves, a daily ration pack came with 4 sheets of toilet paper.

    The running joke was to ‘make sure you use BOTH sides…’

  225. hzhousewife

    Trump/Mattis sold two F-35 stealth aircraft to Turkey despite strong opposition from Congress. Do people think it is a good idea?

    I hope they don’t work very well when they get to Turkey, and spares will be very expensive.

  226. Gab

    Did I mention garbos have video cameras aimed at the stuff coming out of your bin as drops out?

    Put it into plastic bags first. 🙂

  227. cohenite

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #2742858, posted on June 20, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Just bought 3000 singlet checkout bags from ebay. should last me a decade or two.

    I’m interested, details?

    I’ve got the arses of 2 bull mastiffs to take care of and the coles bag was perfect for one load, unless it was more than a kilo. And I’m getting sick of rolling up 100 or so of the bags to sneak out with everytime I go to coles to buy a carrot.

  228. Frank

    BinNazis.

    We had someone move out and they dumped their entire flat’s contents into the yellow bins. Plates, sheets, nappies and chickens all in one.

    The bin people saw it in the truck’s cameras and refused to take the rest of the bins. They actually got out of the truck and put stickers on the bins explaining why they wouldn’t collect them and suggesting we take them to the tip.

    If you live in flats the trick is to put the suss bin at the end of the row as the truck passes, that way they empty all the usual stuff before they get to the slime and rust bin. Once it is inside it is too late, some poor sod at the depot will have to sluice it all out at the end of the shift.

    It took about six weeks to finally get rid of it all that way, but… small victories you know.

  229. JC

    What are they going to do? Stop collecting your trash? They wouldn’t dare.

    Dump it in local parks and lakes. Fuxk some shit up.

    I mentioned something similar last year. They missed our bin and called them up, as they had done that a few times. I had been yessed to death – they would make a special round but they lied and never did on those previous occasions. I called the boss of sanitation at the local council and told him that unless they came and picked it up I would dump it in his office. I promised him I would do that special trip. They came.

    I remember mentioning this and Rooster picked me up on it and had one of his sissy fits. I think he needed fanning. From then I always suspected he was the sanitation meister at some council.

  230. Slayer of Memes

    Baldrick,

    Indeed… and I know I am only indulging it’s pitiful desire for attention by responding to it…

    Sometimes I get bored though and, like JC, I crave a good stoush to liven up the evening.

  231. hzhousewife

    What are they going to do? Stop collecting your trash? They wouldn’t dare.

    The punishment here is no bin collection for a month and a visit from the council officer to re-educate you (happened to a friend).

  232. John Constantine

    How to keep your compliance inspector happy.

    This weeks email from Stalins own meat and livestock corporation [ run by vegans].

    “Animal welfare and biosecurity now part of LPA audits

    19 June 2018

    On-farm animal welfare and biosecurity management practices are now part of the Livestock Production Assurance (LPA) program’s random audits.

    These two requirements were added to the five existing requirements – property risk assessment, safe and responsible animal treatments, safe livestock feed, preparation for dispatch, and livestock transactions and movements – in October 2017, and are now being included in the 2000 audits carried out nationally each year.

    “It’s not hard to meet the requirements and most farmers are on the right track,” said Brendan.

    “They just need to spend some more time demonstrating what they are doing.

    “When they are notified about an audit, my advice to producers is ‘Don’t panic – just read the information pack carefully and you‘ll know what to do.’”

    To meet the biosecurity requirements, every LPA accredited producer needs to have a Farm Biosecurity Plan in place and implement this on their farm.

    “The Biosecurity Plan doesn’t need to be a massive document. Producers just need to think about the things they do with regards to biosecurity on their own farm, and document it using a template”

    “Farmers just need to think about the things they do with regards to biosecurity on their own farm, and put this in the template. Its things farmers do every day – managing and recording the introduction and movement of livestock; controlling people, equipment and vehicles entering the property – where that’s practical; and monitoring and managing the health of their livestock.”

    LPA accredited producers must also be able to demonstrate that their on-farm handling of livestock is consistent with the Australian Animal Welfare Standards and Guidelines. Those responsible for livestock management need to have a copy of the Standards and Guidelines, be familiar with its content, complete the LPA Learning module, and advise and oversee others handling livestock.

    “Producers must be able to show they have completed appropriate training in animal welfare. They need to take a look at the LPA Learning module which asks practical questions about animal care. Complete the module, print out the completion certificate, and they’ll make their auditor happy,” said Brendan.

    Resources are available to help producers meet LPA requirements for biosecurity and animal welfare:
    • LPA Learning
    • LPA audit check list
    • LPA requirement #6: Biosecurity (fact sheet)
    • LPA requirement #6: Biosecurity (video)
    • LPA On-farm Biosecurity Plan (template)
    • LPA requirement #7: Animal welfare (fact sheet)
    • LPA requirement #7: Animal welfare (video)
    • Animal Welfare Standards and Guidelines for sheep, cattle and goats”

    Comrades.

  233. JC

    Sometimes I get bored though and, like JC, I crave a good stoush to liven up the evening.

    Yea, I just haven’t really felt like one for a few days. Dunno why, it’s not for lack of potential candidates. 🙂

  234. Infidel Tiger

    The punishment here is no bin collection for a month and a visit from the council officer to re-educate you (happened to a friend).

    That council officer would be ending up in various bins if he ever harassed my family.

  235. Bruce in WA

    What are they going to do? Stop collecting your trash? They wouldn’t dare.

    Yep, exactly what they did. Big yellow sticker on our bin with “Contaminated with green waste” written all over it. I’d actually chucked a handful of weeds in it as I wheeled it down the driveway.

  236. Frank

    The recycling compliance officer at the local council would have to have a major Napoleon complex.

  237. Infidel Tiger

    What about those people that wash their cans and bottles before putting them in the recycle bin?!

    These people are deeply indoctrinated in a sick cult.

    I wonder what they would do if they knew China just burnt it all or pushed it into the sea?

  238. Baldrick

    Oh look, according to TheirABC those peaceful Palestinian protesters are threatening Israelis with kites:

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    ‘Kite war’ as Palestinians use new weapon to burn farmland, forest in conflict with Israel

    _____
    Here’s the truth:

    IDF ✔ @IDFSpokesperson
    In response to over 45 rockets launched by Hamas towards southern Israeli communities, the IDF targeted military objectives in the Gaza Strip belonging to Hamas

    Strangely, the IDF haven’t marked on the graphic at the link any kite attacks, only rocket and mortar attacks.

  239. JC

    The recycling compliance officer at the local council would have to have a major Napoleon complex.

    Can you fucking imagine the type of person who would do that job? Just imagine for a second and tell me you’re not pinged by violent thoughts.

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