Open Forum: June 30, 2018

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  1. zyconoclast

    White Supremacists’ Use of Campus Propaganda Is Soaring, Report Finds

    In the past academic year, 292 such incidents were reported — a 77 percent increase from the previous year, according to the report*, which was released on Thursday. The stickers, banners and other physical materials included racist and anti-Semitic messages and often targeted Muslims, nonwhite immigrants and L.G.B.T. people.

    *very reliable source. Not.

  2. zyconoclast

    Puerto Rico is making its biggest push for statehood in years, filing legislation in Congress that would make the island the 51st state by 2021.

    Rep. Jenniffer González-Colón (R) filed a bill on Wednesday that would pave the way for the island to become a state no later than January 2021. The measure is co-sponsored by 21 Republicans and 14 Democrats and fulfills the promises of González-Colón and Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló, who campaigned on a statehood platform and said statehood is a civil rights issue for Puerto Ricans.

  3. Makka

    You’re a thread hog, Zyco.

    First xi!

  4. zyconoclast

    The worst thing to be in many Democratic primaries? A white male candidate.

    The newest star of the Democratic Party, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, launched her New York congressional campaign by declaring “women like me aren’t supposed to run for office” — a jarring embrace of her distinction as a 28-year-old Latina less than a year removed from a job tending bar.
    Her campaign slogan: “It’s time for one of us.”
    That appeal to the tribal identities of class, age, gender and ethnicity turned out to be a good gamble, steering her to the nomination in a year when Democratic voters are increasingly embracing diversity as a way to realize the change they seek in the country.
    Given an option, Democratic voters have been picking women, racial minorities, and gay men and lesbians in races around the country at historic rates, often at the expense of the white male candidates who in past years

  5. zyconoclast

    Peter got 2 out of the first 3.

  6. Mindfree

    This is something the democrats could use

  7. Mindfree

    I’m having a bad evening

  8. Makka

    Ok fullish moon , have a howwwwwl;

  9. OneWorldGovernment

    Sometimes you have to wonder about Australia’s leaders of our so called “Intelligence Community” particularly when you see scum like this,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clapper

    And then you have to forget that the head of ASIO and the Turnbull Treason Team had to pull into gear some fool called Hastie.

  10. OneWorldGovernment

    At least the Turnbull Treason Team have created perpetual motion.

  11. OneWorldGovernment

    Boris G

    Have you found the satellite fotos that show how the NK are bullshitting Trump and building nuclear facilities?

    Or are you relying on the communist “38 North” say so?

  12. OneWorldGovernment

    Boris G

    What do you know about “38 North”?

  13. Makka

    Some cultural appropriation. Love the BIG hair;

  14. JC

    Love the BIG hair;

    Americans call people with big hair… Hair Monsters.

  15. OneWorldGovernment

    Makka
    #2750518, posted on June 30, 2018 at 12:38 am

    Some cultural appropriation. Love the BIG hair;

    LOL

  16. Makka

    Normally I don’t go for 80’s stuff but the Bangles were fun. Good fun.

  17. zyconoclast

    Italian Gun Ownership on the Rise as Populist Salvini Offers Stronger Self-Defence Laws

    Firearms licences in Italy have increased by 13.8 percent in a single year and the populist Interior Minister Matteo Salvini is looking to liberalise home self-defence laws to allow Italians to confront intruders.

  18. areff

    the Bangles were fun. Good fun.

    Likewise the GoGos

  19. areff

    statehood is a civil rights issue for Puerto Ricans.

    They’ll pretty soon find out increased taxation is a privilege of statehood too. Won’t stopping ’em snatching handbags in San Juan, of course. Cultural heritage, don’t you know.

  20. JC

    Puerto Rican National Day Parade is always fun, hey Aref. 5th Ave residents couldn’t wait to see the front of their apartment buildings turned into garbage dump. 🙂

  21. classical_hero

    I’m back at home. Still hard to sleep.

  22. BorisG

    OWG please stop giving me orders, read my previous comment instead.

    NKoreans are not bullshitting, they did not agree to anything in the first place.

  23. Makka

    Take care classical hero…. have a listen to this. It works.

  24. Zatara

    Puerto Rico is making its biggest push for statehood in years, filing legislation in Congress that would make the island the 51st state by 2021.

    US investors in your bonds are already getting soaked and the US taxpayers aren’t up for bailing your welfare queen socialist government out.

    Come back after you clear up that $73 Billion in debt thing and prove you learned your lesson and changed your ways.

  25. Shy Ted

    Whoopi Goldberg to Potential Trump SCOTUS Pick: ‘Get Out of My Va gi na’. – from Breitbart. And from the comments:
    Ain’t nobody nowhere wants to be in there!
    The same thing she has to yell at the Blow Flies when she goes outside!
    It probably slaps her in the knees when she walks!!!!

    In total, 27,647 similar comments. But you probably haven’t had breakfast yet.

  26. RobK

    “The same thing she has to yell at the Blow Flies “…….
    Reminds me of the joke with the punchline: “but it sure keeps the flies off my watermelon.”

  27. Mark A

    Missed the podium, varnishing, no french polishing an old sideboard I’m restoring.

    /facechook

  28. rickw

    Firearms licences in Italy have increased by 13.8 percent in a single year and the populist Interior Minister Matteo Salvini is looking to liberalise home self-defence laws to allow Italians to confront intruders.

    You know Australia is stuffed when even the Eurotards out-gun us.

  29. Tom

    Michael Ramirez on the retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy from the US Supreme Court.

  30. stackja

    What did Gazette report on Garland?

  31. stackja

    Puerto Ricans tried shooting Truman.

  32. stackja

    Barrel murder suspect still besieged.

  33. RobK

    A good few chuckles there, thanks Tom.

  34. Zatara

    Trailer for the new Dinesh D’Souza movie looks interesting.

  35. chrisl

    Just visited Iguazu Falls on the Argentine Brazil border.
    Go there !

  36. John Constantine

    America is such a racist country that all Puerto Ricans must be paid a hundred thousand dollars each to become independent right now.

    Trumpnado must blow the winds of Freedom Puerto Ricos way today.

    Don’t their united nations class the commo hippy crimerock as an occupied land?.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    Both of Chip Bok’s for me! With everything Trump has been doing it is mystifying why Dems and RINOs keep wanting to stop him.

    Michael Moore: We Have to ‘Put Our Bodies on the Line’ to Stop Trump

    Is he trying to be Kung Fu Panda?

  38. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pope Francis Praises Synchronized Swimming as ‘Pinnacle of Teamwork’

    Looks like he’s finally flipped. Time for the good nuns from hospice to take him in.

  39. H B Bear

    Maybe Michael Moore is finally going to fulfill his destiny and become a speedhump.

  40. Geriatric Mayfly

    Maybe Michael Moore is finally going to fulfill his destiny and become a speedhump.

    Will work for him, Rachel Corrie not so much. Detour signs will appear very smartly once Moore puts his body on the line.

  41. calli

    Just visited Iguazu Falls on the Argentine Brazil border.
    Go there !

    Next November for me chrisl. Plus all the other sights and a round the horn cruise.

    My task for next year’s gym is to master the Stairmaster. I believe I’ll need to. 🙂

  42. Helen

    JC, what do you reckon about this.

    Would Joe Lewis (40% owner in AACo) be interested in doing something with this abbatoir, or is low margin, low return outside his interest?

    Or might he buy it (at a price) build it up and sell it on?

    I’d be interested in your thoughts.

  43. Tintarella di Luna

    Interesting story in the Oz on freedom of speech High Court case – very much David and Goliath – not comments possible

    Kathleen Clubb defends right to challenge abortion –– which is a misleading headline – it’s about her freedom of speech and freedom to say it wherever she wants to say it – anyway here it is in full written by Caroline Overington-

    Kathleen Clubb has 13 children, enough to make anyone gasp. Like many Australian women, she also has a miscarriage — three, in fact — in her reproductive history, and she once had a conversation about abortion at a family planning clinic. She was 19 at the time, single and broke.

    “I had a pretty wild time when I was a teenager,” Clubb says. “I was living in Brisbane, clubbing, drinking, live-mixing for indie bands.” And she became a bit of a goth, all black clothes, white face and piercings.

    She had a serious boyfriend, but they split up. She had rebound sex with her flatmate, and hey, guess what? Pregnant.

    Clubb remembers looking in the phone book for a number for the family planning clinic because “you couldn’t get an over-the-counter pregnancy test in those days”. You had to do the urine in a cup thing and “you had to speak to the nurse, who said I had three choices”. There was adoption, which had faded a little as a popular option by the mid-1980s; she could have the baby; or she could have an abortion.

    “I told the nurse I had two options,” she says. “I’d seen a pamphlet in my dad’s briefcase when I was about eight. It had diagrams of what abortion is, and I knew I couldn’t do that to my baby.”

    READ MORE
    SpecialMum of 13 takes fight to courtCAROLINE OVERINGTON
    She wrote a letter to her mum, who travelled down to Brisbane and brought her home.

    “I decided to take responsibility,” she says. “And as soon as I had my daughter, Julia, I felt a strong desire to have her baptised.

    “I became quite serious about my faith.”

    Two years on, Clubb met her husband-to-be, David, an American who had come to Australia to work as a chiropractor. Ahead of the wedding — actually at the pre-wedding conference with the priest — she told him she didn’t believe in contraception, and the rest you can guess: it was one pregnancy after another (besides Julia, now 31, Clubb has Joshua, 26; Madeleine, 25; Jessie, 23; Gab­rielle, 21; Emmanuel, 20; Elijah, 17; Lucien, 16; Eva, 14; Tobias, 11; twins Miriam and Matthew, 9; and Danielle, 7.)

    Clubb moved with her seven youngest children from Tasmania to Victoria some years ago. She is renting a 70s exposed brick house with a copper fireplace, a laminate kitchen, and a long-flattened shag pile carpet.

    Ms Clubb at home with seven of her 13 children. Picture: David Geraghty
    Ms Clubb at home with seven of her 13 children. Picture: David Geraghty
    She doesn’t mind admitting that things are tight. All the children are being home-schooled, and all are well-mannered and articulate. Six of them come to perch on the sofa on the day of this interview, which is to discuss the role Clubb, who last year became the first person to be convicted under abortion protest laws in Victoria, will play in what may become one of the most important free speech cases heard by the High Court.

    She wants Australians to know that it’s not about abortion. It’s about the right to protest.

    The youngest, when bored, entertains herself with handstands; the next oldest is reading Roald Dahl. At some point, they’ll bring in the guinea pigs for show-and-tell; later in the day, their mum will ask them to “get the lunch started”, and before long they’ve put an efficient assembly line together: here’s a plate with lettuce, another with sliced tomato, bacon, cheese slices, fresh bread, an orange juice station.

    Everyone helps themselves. Then they say grace.

    Over time, it becomes apparent that there is no dad around, and here’s something interesting: if you’re an orthodox Catholic, opposed to abortion, surrogacy, in-vitro fertilisation and euthanasia, you’re also probably opposed to divorce, but Clubb is divorced.

    “I didn’t want to talk about this, but he wanted it,” she says, and the sorrow is immediate and obvious. She ran hard against it, but when it became apparent that divorce was happening, she went for the annulment, giving evidence, as a Catholic must, at the Marriage Tribunal in Melbourne.

    “I was overwhelmed by grief,” Clubb says. “I felt very badly done by at the time: 10 children at home, no money, no prospects.”

    It was during this period that Clubb had what she describes as a revelation.

    “It was a spiritual experience,” she says. “A message that no matter how hard my life was, there was a whole class of people who were much worse off than I was. And I should focus on the unborn.”

    Clubb can anticipate all your questions: yes, she is opposed to abortion in cases of rape; yes, in the case of profound disability; yes, in the case of incest.

    She also believes that Australians have been denied a national debate about abortion.

    “In some states, it’s now legal all through nine months for any reason, and we have not had a debate about that,” she says — and plenty of readers will no doubt think: good.

    Those people who stand outside abortion clinics with gory signs and, in some cases, with blood-splattered dolls in prams, they’re pests — and also, it’s none of their business.

    Clubb says she has never done that. She prays and she offers pamphlets.

    “But the point is, if parliament can ban this kind of protest, what other kind of protests can they ban?” she says. “I am fighting for all Australians.”

    Legislation creating 150m “safe zones” around the Victorian clinics came into effect on May 2, 2016. This was always going to be a problem for Christian groups that hold their vigils outside the doors.

    A prayer vigil near an abortion clinic in Sydney.
    A prayer vigil near an abortion clinic in Sydney.
    Court documents show that Inspector Gerard Cartwright of Victoria Police met a group he called “the Helpers” (the full name is Helpers of God’s Precious Infants, and Clubb is a member) several times in an effort to impress on them the importance of the law, telling the court: “These were law-abiding people and I did not want them coming before the courts.” He asked them to steer clear of the 150m zone. In July, “the Helpers” contacted him to let him know that “a man in his 70s and a woman in her 50s” would breach the zone on August 4, 2016, outside the Fertility Control Clinic in Wellington Parade, East Melbourne.

    Twenty officers were briefed to attend, “to ensure calm”.

    Clubb says she had a friend drop her off near the clinic. En route to the safe zone, she saw two detectives at a nearby cafe and stopped to say hello. As arrests go, it was all very civilised. She walked into the exclusion zone. Video of the event, shown to the court, shows her attempting to engage a couple as they approach the clinic, by speaking to them and handing over a pamphlet. The male of the couple declines the offer and the young woman moves away.

    A police officer steps up and tells Clubb she is breaking the law. Was she prepared to leave? She was not.

    From there on, events felt to Clubb like something from NYPD Blue. She was not cuffed but put in the back seat of a squad car. She had a mugshot taken at the station, which her delighted kids are now trying to get her to use as her Facebook profile picture.

    There was a confusing moment in the cop shop bathroom: everything was stainless steel and she couldn’t find a tap, just a button to press to wash her hands. She had to hand over personal items but was allowed to keep her rosary beads, although one officer said: “Don’t harm yourself with them.”

    “They weren’t jovial,” she says, thinking back. “More businesslike.”

    It took some time for the case to make its way to the Magistrates Court but ultimately, on October 11 last year, with magistrate Luisa Bazzani presiding, Clubb was told she had been charged with breaching section 185D of Victoria’s Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008; that she had insisted on “communicating about abortions” within a safe access zone in a manner “reasonably likely to cause anxiety or distress”; and that she had done so despite two warnings, “defiantly and deliberately”.

    Of course she had. That was always the point.

    Clubb’s legal team appealed her conviction to the Supreme Court of Victoria, with grounds one and two concerning the constitutional validity of the law in question. A short time later, Victoria’s Attorney-General Martin Pakula also applied to have the case transferred to the High Court, which is due to hear the matter later this year.

    Clubb is opposed by the Solicitor-General for Victoria, Kristen Walker; commonwealth Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue; the Solicitor-General for NSW, Michael Sexton SC; the Solicitor-General for Queensland, Peter Dunning QC; the Solicitor-General for Western Australia, Peter Quinlan SC; the Solicitor-General for South Australia, Chris Bleby SC; and barristers acting for the private abortion providers, who seek to be heard as amicus curiae (friend of the court.)

    Clubb’s supporters include the Helpers — they are largely Catholic and wholly anonymous, without so much as a website — the Human Rights Law Alliance, which hopes to raise an estimated $120,000 to cover the cost of being heard in the High Court; and the Australian Christian Lobby.

    The case — officially, it’s No M46/2018 — concerns something that should concern us all: freedom of political communication. Australia doesn’t have a bill of rights but in 1992 the High Court did recognise what it has called an “implied freedom of political communication”. To be clear: that’s not a personal right to speak your mind. It’s a burden on legislative power, meaning our parliaments are restricted in the laws they can pass.

    Walker, the Victorian Solicitor-General, has rejected the free-speech argument in her submission to the High Court, saying Clubb is “trying ignore or downplay the demonstrable harm” the protests cause “to people seeking abortions”. She describes the protests as “harassing and intimidatory conduct”, with the most extreme case in Victoria involving “the fatal shooting in 2001 of a security guard at the East Melbourne clinic”.

    The commonwealth argues that such protests are not political because protesters are not trying to change the law, they are interfering with the personal choice of an individual woman. Furthermore, Clubb’s freedom to communicate has not been taken from her: she can protest abortion outside parliament; she can write to her local member; she can take out newspaper ads; she can campaign in certain seats, even run for office. What she can’t do is approach a vulnerable, pregnant woman trying to access a lawful medical procedure at an abortion clinic.

    And this, in the view of Clubb’s legal team, is the point.

    In their submission, they say: “Australian history is replete with examples of political communications being effective precisely because they are conducted at the place where the issue is viscerally felt.” There’s the Franklin Dam blockade, for example, and the Pine Gap protests, the Freedom Rides and the Eureka Stockade.

    Clubb’s team acknowledges that her protest isn’t popular, and that too is important because the “very purpose of freedom” is to permit the expression of unpopular, minority view points.

    “In order to rouse, political speech must first excite,” the submission says. “Sir Robert Menzies’ ‘forgotten people’ speech, Paul Keating’s Redfern speech, Kevin Rudd’s apology … each was apt to cause discomfort not incidentally but deliberately.”

    It will not be an easy case for Clubb to win. Australia has no proud free speech tradition. Four states and the commonwealth have already made submissions aimed at silencing her protest.

    But in her pocket Clubb has what she believes is a reason to keep going. It’s a short video, stored on her phone, of a child she describes as “the last baby we saved”.

    “His parents are Nepalese, they hadn’t been in Australia very long,” she says. “They approached the clinic and I could see they didn’t want to do it.”

    She helped them away from the door, into a nearby carpark, where the mum-to-be, buckled by morning sickness, vomited. They explained their circumstances: he was working in a convenience store, earning not much money. She was newly arrived and now pregnant. They didn’t have stable accommodation. The GP had given them a pamphlet for the abortion clinic.

    “I told them we could help,” says Clubb, and the groups with which she works stepped up with money for rent, doctor’s fees, a cot and a car seat.

    The child being carried in the womb that day is now a two-year-old. In the video, he’s bopping along to an Ed Sheeran song.

    “I believe we did God’s work that day,” says Clubb.

    “You don’t have to agree but I should be allowed to say it.”

  44. C.L

    Gerard Henderson has written a lengthy, angry response to Sinclair over the ABC/Berg matter.
    Sinclair’s original post here.

    Pretty weak rebuttal.

    Henderson finishes with a traditional Australian faux-conservative’s condemnation of calls to abolish the ABC on the grounds that too many Nationals and Liberals support it; which is what people would have said (and did say) about a dozen different policy issues – from financial deregulation to gay ‘marriage’.

    Finally, Henderson admits he has never read the Davidson/Berg book.

  45. C.L

    In a sane society, the abortionist ‘doctors’ – who are, of course, psychopaths – would be arrested and jailed for 20 years.

  46. Geriatric Mayfly

    I thought that bagged-up bombshell El-Zahed. was to be handed a lesson in Court procedures and respect for the institution of justice, this month. Not quietly swept under the multi-culti carpet I hope.

  47. twostix

    Clubb is opposed by the Solicitor-General for Victoria, Kristen Walker; commonwealth Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue; the Solicitor-General for NSW, Michael Sexton SC; the Solicitor-General for Queensland, Peter Dunning QC; the Solicitor-General for Western Australia, Peter Quinlan SC; the Solicitor-General for South Australia, Chris Bleby SC; and barristers acting for the private abortion providers, who seek to be heard as amicus curiae (friend of the court.

    The bugman cometh.

  48. struth

    It seems to me that Gerard Henderson has some comprehension issues.

    Where did Chris say one thing inaccurate?

    He said the Abc was set up for a different era (technologically) and then set up a left wing News service later to counter Murdoch type free press.

  49. Gab

    Kristen Walker

    Emily’s lister?

  50. But in her pocket Clubb has what she believes is a reason to keep going. It’s a short video, stored on her phone, of a child she describes as “the last baby we saved”.

    “His parents are Nepalese, they hadn’t been in Australia very long,” she says. “They approached the clinic and I could see they didn’t want to do it.”

    She helped them away from the door, into a nearby carpark, where the mum-to-be, buckled by morning sickness, vomited. They explained their circumstances: he was working in a convenience store, earning not much money. She was newly arrived and now pregnant. They didn’t have stable accommodation. The GP had given them a pamphlet for the abortion clinic.

    “I told them we could help,” says Clubb, and the groups with which she works stepped up with money for rent, doctor’s fees, a cot and a car seat.

    The child being carried in the womb that day is now a two-year-old. In the video, he’s bopping along to an Ed Sheeran song.

    “I believe we did God’s work that day,” says Clubb.

    This is precisely what the bugmen want to stop.

  51. Twostix

    The entire public law establishnent of every state in Australia have rushed in to assure us that we have the freedom to speak that they allow us to have.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pretty weak rebuttal.

    The worst part is for Henderson to mount a critique on the basis that Sinclair’s book will never achieve its aim of privatizing the ABC. Henderson’s crystal ball is all-seeing no doubt. Sinclair and Berg discuss possibilities to which Henderson’s mind is closed. Change happens when people start thinking differently.

    The other thing is that Gerard seems to want to start a vendetta. These are the sort of guys you avoid at parties, because they go on and on and on while you are left frantically eye-signaling to a friend for a rescue. He commented. Sinc replied. He’s rebutted, now he wants Sinc to reply again, and where does it end? People have grasped the viewpoints of both. Surely that is enough now?

  53. Twostix

    The commonwealth argues that such protests are not political because protesters are not trying to change the law,

    Commowealth argues that leftwing protests can be banned.

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    p.s Sinclair and Berg’s book seems to have put the wind right up the ABC’s skirts.
    Surely a good thing in itself?

  55. Roger

    Kathleen Clubb for Australian of the Year!

  56. H B Bear

    The bugman cometh.

    No surprises there.

  57. Emily’s lister?

    Maybe Gab, if this pic is instuctive. That is Ms Walker on the Left.

  58. Nick

    How many abortionists are the types who:
    1. Protest at the netting of sharks owing to a loss of life?
    2. Do yoga because it’s so good for the soul yet deny a foetus has one?

  59. Twostix

    Australia could have had a bill of rights under Howard. But no he said, leave it to the enlightened learned classes to define such things.

    Today:

    she can protest abortion outside parliament; she can write to her local member; she can take out newspaper ads

    “This is enough Freedom of speech for you, peasants “

  60. Baldrick

    classical_hero
    #2750538, posted on June 30, 2018 at 1:55 am
    I’m back at home. Still hard to sleep.

    Hang in there c_h, home recovery will work wonders.

  61. Twostix

    Abortionists are usually failed obgyns or psycopaths.

  62. struth

    Sinclair and Berg discuss possibilities to which Henderson’s mind is closed.

    If I were Henderson, I’d have a good long look in the mirror.

    Gerard, the free minded people at the cat, see straight through pseudo socialists, and in a way, that’s what you are.
    The ABC is your subject matter, for much of it.
    You require the existence of the ABC to make your money, they just don’t pay you directly.

    Be brave Gerard, and stick to your principles.
    There is plenty of leftism to fight in the media without the ABC being there.
    Be brave old man.

    You don’t need them.

  63. calli

    “I believe we did God’s work that day,” says Clubb.

    Yes. She did.

    The bugfolk don’t want the distressed parents helped. They want the babies dead, because “choice”. That some of these “choices” are made under extreme duress doesn’t matter a whit.

  64. H B Bear

    Thinking the ALPBC can be reformed is the first mistake most people make. It is the perfect example of a staff captured organisation.

  65. Gab

    If only doctors and nurses were courageous enough to refuse to perform abortions, there’d be no abortion “industry”.

  66. Gab

    If only doctors and nurses actually believed in preserving life and doing no harm.

  67. calli

    The only conclusion I can come to is that they want to do it.

    Which raises all sorts of questions about their mental condition.

  68. struth

    There will be no civil war in the USA.
    BECAUSE they are armed.

  69. Baldrick

    Gerard Henderson has written a lengthy, angry response to Sinclair over the ABC/Berg matter.

    “I never said I had read Against Public Broadcasting.” – Gerard Henderson.
    Well perhaps you should.

  70. Gab

    I guess that’s why doctors are no longer required to pledge the Hippocratic oath.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    So, what did big bad Barry Hall say to get fired?

  72. Roger

    One liberal wakes up:

    Ordinary white folk resent being called racist for doing what minorities do:
    seeking to preserve their culture and identity.

    It makes them angry and politically active.

    RTWT

  73. Leigh Lowe

    I guess that’s why doctors are no longer required to pledge the Hippocratic oath.

    I think it is spelt “Hypocritic Oath”.

  74. Nick

    So, what did big bad Barry Hall say to get fired?

    He accused passing white men of racism just for walking by. Oh wait.

  75. Baldrick

    So, what did big bad Barry Hall say to get fired?

    Let’s go to the tape …
    https://instaud.io/_/2nai.mp3

  76. H B Bear

    So, what did big bad Barry Hall say to get fired?

    Engaged in a bit of amateur gynecological discussions about a player’s wife. I guess there actually is a limit to the sort of footballing meathead who can go into the media. Who knew?

  77. rickw

    There will be no civil war in the USA.
    BECAUSE they are armed.

    Yep, imagine a disarmed USA during the Obama Trump transition. The only thing that stopped The Left escalating to civil war was the cold hard fact that they would have got the shit shot out of them by everyone else.

  78. 132andBush

    Barry Hall
    What an ornament to the game.

  79. calli

    Hall deserved the flick for that.

  80. struth

    One liberal wakes up:

    I see what you are saying, but “waking up” is a big call.

    He is so wrong in most of all that, with the assumptions of preservation of race and not culture as the reasoning, I couldn’t be bothered taking it up.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Put this up at end of last OF so am repeating it here for those interested in IRL meet-up discussions:

    Another fun night of Catallaxy Sydney CBD Drinkies, hatching political plots and sharing expertise, Kittehs talking handbags and shoes when the guys did football. Tinta came looking all Parisienne in a diamante-studded beret, Cassie’s glasses were tres Francaise too and I wore my trench coat 1940’s Casablanca-style; all stars in our own movies. Riccardo in Camel Hair Overcoat kept the masculine sartorial elegance level as high as does initiator of the meets Percy Popinjay himself. T-shirts also fine, especially if they carry the image of Jordan Peterson (one did). We (Hairy is an Honorary Cat, spouses do attend) will be lucky to make another before we leave these shores soon for three months but we’ll try. Space at the table still. Sydney Cats who’d like to be on the list to be informed re when and where, get my email or Percy Popinjay’s from Sinc. There is ten dollar parking in the Goulburn St Car Park after 5pm with good venues nearby.

  82. Nick

    Had Hall been a lezzo I’ll bet his crass remarks would have been ignored, diversity and all that.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Engaged in a bit of amateur gynecological discussions about a player’s wife. 

    So, Baz doesn’t have a medical degree, then?

  84. Old School Conservative

    Barry Hall uses gutter language…..cue maniacal laughter from fellow commentators.
    I guess they get a free pass because it would be too hard to replace all of them.

  85. struth

    Any Gossip you wish to share, (just for us hicks out bush who only dream of a nightlife) Lizzie?

  86. Roger

    He is so wrong in most of all that, with the assumptions of preservation of race and not culture as the reasoning, I couldn’t be bothered taking it up.

    It’s the great lesson from Trump’s victory that the Prog Left refuse to grasp (thankfully):

    If you want to play identity politics in a democracy, the largest ethnic group will likely win.

  87. H B Bear

    So, Baz doesn’t have a medical degree, then?

    That was my assumption.

  88. Baldrick

    Engaged in a bit of amateur gynecological discussions about a player’s wife.

    Yet if he’d said it at the Melbourne Comedy Festival the ABC would be screening it on the ABC Comedy channel.

  89. calli

    I’d give the other commentators a pass on this one. There is such a thing as embarrassed, horrified laughter.

    Garment tearing doesn’t translate well on radio.

  90. struth

    It’s the great lesson from Trump’s victory that the Prog Left refuse to grasp (thankfully):

    If you want to play identity politics in a democracy, the largest ethnic group will likely win.

    They know that, and have done for years.
    That’s why they are so heavily invested in changing it.
    But for us, it’s not about race, but culture.
    Purely a Christian western culture against the failed cultures of violence and degradation they wish to import and allow to flourish while oppressing and killing ours.

    I would be against the immigration of white german Nazis during ww2, as I am against importing members of a religion that has declared war against us and shown itself to never integrate successfully.
    Even if they are white.
    I would like white communists banned and any white that doesn’t believe in the democratic system.
    Skin colour plays no part in this.
    The left use it as it’s all they got.
    White people fighting socialism and Islam are white extremists according to the left.
    Are Asians fighting Islam Asian extremists.
    Are Africans fighting Islam Black extremists?
    Of course not.

  91. Chris

    Morning all.
    For your education in tasteful architecture.

    The curse is ‘mcmansions’.
    You know what to do.
    Take power,
    and ruthlessly leave people alone.
    Every. Single. Time.

  92. calli

    Chris, there’s an entire thread dedicated to it. Drop in and join the party.

  93. C.L

    Real men don’t talk like Hall did, nor do real men tolerate it.
    As somebody noted above, his colleagues all had a big boof-head laugh at what he said.
    Gormless low-brow idiots who weren’t brought up properly.

  94. Chris

    Thinking the ALPBC can be reformed is the first mistake most people make.

    The experiment has been tried and it failed.
    I favour outsourcing. The ABC budget is taken off it, slung to contractors employing off-the-books Indian students and overseas call centres who upload the News to Youtube, and the ABC rebroadcasts it.

    IT works for all the best dramas they broadcast, apparently

  95. C.L

    The other thing is that Gerard seems to want to start a vendetta. These are the sort of guys you avoid at parties, because they go on and on and on while you are left frantically eye-signaling to a friend for a rescue. He commented. Sinc replied. He’s rebutted, now he wants Sinc to reply again, and where does it end? People have grasped the viewpoints of both. Surely that is enough now?

    Good point, Lizzie.
    Henderson is always presenting a failure by somebody to spend years corresponding with him as some sort of evidence of his victory. It’s more often merely evidence of sanity.

  96. C.L

    Clubb is opposed by the Solicitor-General for Victoria, Kristen Walker; commonwealth Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue; the Solicitor-General for NSW, Michael Sexton SC; the Solicitor-General for Queensland, Peter Dunning QC; the Solicitor-General for Western Australia, Peter Quinlan SC; the Solicitor-General for South Australia, Chris Bleby SC; and barristers acting for the private abortion providers, who seek to be heard as amicus curiae (friend of the court.)

    In other words, the Liberal Party wants Clubb silenced and jailed.
    Just like the Liberal Party presided over the attempt to silence and/or jail Bolt and Bill Leak.

  97. Tom

    Emily’s lister?

    Maybe Gab, if this pic is instructive. That is Ms Walker on the Left.

    So the Solicitor-General of Dickhead Dan’s CFMEU caliphate is an angry, butt-ugly bull dyke political activist. Just imagine the onslaught of the communist deep state that will be unleashed on the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals if the electorate mistakenly elects them at the November 24 state election. Instead of The Garden State or whatever the current mantra is, the new message on Victoriastan’s number plates will be RESIST!

  98. Peter Campion

    I guess that’s why doctors are no longer required to pledge the Hippocratic oath.

    Do they ever wonder what they’re “curing” when they perform an abortion?

  99. Chris

    In other words, the Liberal Party wants Clubb silenced and jailed.
    Just like the Liberal Party presided over the attempt to silence and/or jail Bolt and Bill Leak.

    Not to mention jailing Pauline.

  100. C.L

    Of course not – no danger at all:

    AFP conducts terrorism raids in Kuraby south of Brisbane.

    The Australian Federal Police (AFP) are conducting terrorism raids at Kuraby south of Brisbane.

    The Brisbane Joint Counter Terrorism Team is on the scene.

    The AFP said there was no risk to the community and that no further comment would be made while the matter was ongoing.

    More to come.

  101. cohenite

    Kristen walker QC was up to her neck in the Finkelstein enquiry which will be part of tit’s first policy vomit when the little alleged r….t forms government with the drug dealer’s wife. There’s something about that photo which I just can’t put my finger on.

  102. C.L

    Kuraby, south of Brisbane.
    Mmm.
    October 2017: Police probe whether slain dad was lured out when power was cut.

    Police are investigating the killing of a Brisbane father in his own yard overnight, including whether he was lured outside when someone turned the power off

    Fidaur Rehman, a friend of the slain man who teaches at the nearby Kuraby Mosque, said he had lost his “best friend”, who left behind a wife and two young children.

    June 2018: Police hunt Brisbane dad’s killer.

    Minutes after a Brisbane father-of-four went downstairs to check on a power outage he was stabbed to death in his front yard by a man police believe was seen running down a dark street moments after the attack.

    Abdul Mohammed was murdered outside his Kuraby home in the middle of the night on October 25, 2017 after being lured into the darkness by someone who turned off the power.

    September 2014: Two men face terror charges as police raid Islamic book store at Logan.

    TWO men will be charged with preparing to send fighters to join the conflict in Syria, aftera year-long counter-terrorism investigation.

    AFP National Manager Counter Terrorism Assistant Commissioner Neil Gaughan confirmed Omar Succarieh was one of the men arrested today.

    He said a 31-year-old from Kuraby would be charged with providing funds to terrorist organisation Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria.

    Kuraby: Muslim multiculturalism at it finest.

  103. struth

    Two great lies the left are basing their attacks on.
    Hitler was right wing.
    Whites defending their culture are racists.

    Quite simply, these two points do not stand for a second under scrutiny, and are easily dismissed.
    The Hitler lie (the great lie) is the most important.
    It’s where they shift his socialist racism and white supremacy onto us.

    You must be a collectivist to be a racist.
    You must have a collectivist mindset to be a racist.
    There is no racism found in an individualist.
    Even today, with the left’s talk of minorities, it is a significant point to see.
    To them, there are persecuted minorities.
    All persecuted by the white man.
    They still see the white man as superior because apparently he has the power to suppress and control all others …………………………!
    They are still the white racists in their hearts.
    They are consumed by race.
    Everything is looked at racially.

    They need to therefore project their racism on to others.

  104. struth

    Not to mention jailing Pauline.

    But some still think of party hack Abbort as some sort of right wing god.

  105. cohenite

    But some still think of party hack Abbort as some sort of right wing god.

    No, the real horror is he is the best the conservatives have to offer.

  106. Roger

    Everything is looked at racially. They need to therefore project their racism on to others.

    Exactly, struth.

    (I was earlier making an observation about identity politics, not advocating white supremacy.)

  107. nemkat

    Do they ever wonder what they’re “curing” when they perform an abortion?

    Like nearly everybody else, they’re trying to earn a living, without having a nervous breakdown every 15 minutes?
    The reality is, if the kid isn’t wanted before birth, it won’t be very welcome afterwards, either.
    That’s a recipe for a lifetime of substance abuse, imprisonment, and madness.

    You can’t legislate for morality, but that doesn’t seem to stop the busybodies from trying to.

  108. C.L

    Malcolm Turnbull – freshly converted to Catholicism (of the phony variety) – addressed the Australian Christian Lobby national conference in 2008. He used the platform to berate his audience for not supporting abortion:

    Turnbull defends abortion.

    Federal opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull has told a powerful Christian lobby group they are wrong on abortion, as he defended a woman’s right to choose.

    Mr Turnbull was the star speaker at the Australian Christian Lobby’s (ACL) national conference in Canberra.

    He was applauded when he talked about his Catholic faith and quoted extensively from the Bible, but there were no cheers when audience members grilled him on abortion.

    Mr Turnbull said women had the right to end an unwanted pregnancy.

    “It is their choice,” he said.

  109. Boambee John

    struth
    #2750641, posted on June 30, 2018 at 9:34 am
    There will be no civil war in the USA.
    BECAUSE they are armed.

    But there will be assaults on non-lefties, and riots in the streets.

    The only peaceful solution I can see is that the “Blue” states have referenda on secession. Those counties (not whole states) that vote in favour go their own way. The result would be two nations with similar populations, but very different land areas,

  110. C.L

    You can’t legislate for morality …

    You make a strong case for abolishing the Human Rights Commission.
    And those laws banning rape – what’s the point, really?

  111. struth

    No, the real horror is he is the best the conservatives have to offer.

    Don’t you mean the Coalition.
    Nothing conservative about them.
    If Abbort was anything more than the party hack team player he is, he would have already left the Liberals and at least run as an independent.
    He’s establishment trash like the rest of them.

  112. mh

    Just read this:

    During an interview with Stephen Colbert, Michael Moore admitted that he cries every day over President Trump and his policies.

    Smells like victory!

  113. struth

    (I was earlier making an observation about identity politics, not advocating white supremacy.)

    Yep.
    I got that.

  114. Woolfe

    Breaking News* The legal team have been working hard and we have had it confirmed that Lord Justice Leveson will hear Tommy Robinsons appeal on his sentence at 10am on 10th July 2018 at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.

    Just hope he can survive till then

  115. nemkat

    And those laws banning rape – what’s the point, really?

    Rape isn’t an issue of morality, no matter how many old women here want to rabbit on about controlling sexual urges and whatnot.

    Not for White people, anyway.
    Most of the other Races have a Laissez Faire attitude to it, though.

  116. I so have the shits about not being able to match a single pair of socks among hundreds, that I’m wearing the two socks most opposite. Pure white and striped black, and I want everyone to notice.

    Screw socks. They get what they deserve.

  117. struth

    But there will be assaults on non-lefties, and riots in the streets.

    Agreed , but the worst of that has passed.
    We’ll see nothing worse than the dummy spit by the luvvies and lefty brown shirt antifas on the street again.
    They’re beaten.
    They impeach Trump,(peace be upon him)…. whole different story.
    The left know this.
    He’s won.
    Now there is just a shitload of swamp cleaning to be done.

  118. mh

    This is the Pelosi link. The Dumbocrats appear to be cracking. Love it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gtzbfTm7FXU

  119. areff

    The reality is, if the kid isn’t wanted before birth, it won’t be very welcome afterwards, either.

    My child-rearing days are over with only one addition to the species, now paying his own way. Would dearly have loved to have a couple more kids but every attempt ended with hopes dashed after a few months and tears.

    Ex and I would cheerfully have wanted someone else’s unwanted kid.

    Alas, adoption bad, abortion good.

  120. struth

    Rape isn’t an issue of morality,

    …………………………………666

  121. calli

    During an interview with Stephen Colbert, Michael Moore admitted that he cries every day over President Trump and his policies.

    I trust he’s collecting those tears in little crystal vials and selling them.

    I would wear one.

  122. nemkat

    Ex and I would cheerfully have wanted someone else’s unwanted kid.

    You wish someone else with no biological connection to you could’ve been part of your now broken family?
    How very generous of you.

  123. struth

    You wish someone else with no biological connection to you could’ve been part of your now broken family?
    How very generous of you.

    Your desire to nourish and support a life is hard for the left to comprehend.

  124. nemkat

    struth
    #2750715

    Rape isn’t an issue of morality,

    …………………………………666

    Mate, if you’ve got to rationalise and justify not raping, then you’ve got big problems.

  125. Boambee John

    Woolfe
    #2750709, posted on June 30, 2018 at 10:46 am
    Breaking News* The legal team have been working hard and we have had it confirmed that Lord Justice Leveson will hear Tommy Robinsons appeal on his sentence at 10am on 10th July 2018 at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.

    Just hope he can survive till then

    Has there been any further news about the death in prison of the bacon on the door handle “criminal”?

  126. Roger

    Alas, adoption bad, abortion good.

    A culture that believes that has a death wish.

  127. Tekweni

    Just an observation this morning as I dodged wet items hanging on our back veranda. When you have both male and female adult offspring the drying wetsuits are interspersed with various frilly bits of underwear. Pretty much sums up the differences between the sexes.

  128. nemkat

    Your desire to nourish and support a life is hard for the left to comprehend.

    Are there any happy adopted children?
    Probably. About 1 in 500.

  129. Baldrick

    Looks like another Saturday where the Cat is responsible for babysitting nemkunt, who’s parents have left him home alone for the weekend, again.

  130. struth

    The reality is, if the kid isn’t wanted before birth, it won’t be very welcome afterwards, either

    This level of stupid is beyond belief.

    It’s as if he’s not human.

  131. nemkat

    Alas, adoption bad, abortion good.

    A culture that believes that has a death wish.

    Strawman. What serious person believes abortion to be ”good”?

    Adoption isn’t necessarily bad, particularly if the child is related to the adopting parents, but I haven’t ran across any happy adoptees, either.

  132. areff

    I forgot I was replying to you, Nemkat, otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered. But since you air your logic, let me surmarise it:

    Better that a baby go to landfill than it be raised in a loving home where, even if a marriage ends, two civilised people can be expected to work something out.

    When you manage to form a relationship with more dimensions than you enjoy with Mrs Palm and her five daughters, you might understand.

    Fat chance of that, eh!

  133. Atoms for Peace

    Baldrick. Where else will you see the term laissez faire used in such a fashion.

  134. struth

    Rape isn’t an issue of morality,

    Especially if you are a member of a British grooming gang.
    There’s of course is a different morality.

    Fuck off Dumkat.
    Look, there are wayward bb guns the Vic Police are trying to find on Guam.
    Surely there is something you can do to help?

  135. but I haven’t ran across any happy adoptees, either.

    I somehow doubt you have run across any adopted children or children in general, your ankle bracelet would start beeping.

  136. nemkat

    Rape isn’t an issue of morality,

    Especially if you are a member of a British grooming gang.
    There’s of course is a different morality.

    You’re ”British grooming gang” isn’t British in any way, shape, or form.
    As I said at 10.47am: Rape isn’t a moral issue for White people.
    Most of the other Races have a Laissez Faire attitude to it, though.

  137. I trust he’s collecting those tears in little crystal vials and selling them.

    I would wear one.

    I’d use it to polish my gun stocks.

  138. calli

    but I haven’t ran across any happy adoptees, either.

    Everyone’s unhappy about something or other sometime or other.

    I bet they’re happy they’re alive to whinge about it though.

  139. nemkat

    Look, there are wayward bb guns the Vic Police are trying to find on Guam.
    Surely there is something you can do to help?

    Until now, I haven’t been part of that conversation. I will say, though, that a person who gives someone else’s
    town dwelling kids 2 slug guns and 2,000 slugs probably needs to take a good, hard, look at himself.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    I love been lectured on the intricacy and complexity of family relationships by someone who lives in a cellar with the shrivelled corpse of his mother.
    Continue Googlery …

  141. nemkat

    It’s not always all about you, Leigh.

  142. JC

    Hi Helen

    I don’t think much of it, not that I know anything about abottioring.
    The problem that immediately springs to mind is that the guy pushing for it was the former CEO who set it up. That’s a problem right there. If he failed the first time why think having a second bite will work especially with him around.

    The piece also says the plant has been mothballed. That suggests there weren’t any buyers. Why?

    Look, assuming they have okay management , which is a big ask considering the guy who failed to make a go of it wants a second chance you ask how much is being invested?

    One last question , is the fat guy going to have any skin in the game and if so how much?

  143. nemkat

    Everyone’s unhappy about something or other sometime or other.

    I bet they’re happy they’re alive to whinge about it though.

    That’s the attitude of adopting parents, to a tee, and they’re not slow to remind the little adoptee of it either, several times a day, or whenever they feel like it.

    See, with this sort of person, it’s all about the Feelz.

  144. Steve trickler

    Bookmark.

    I doubt she will travel back to South Africa anytime soon.

    FARMLANDS (2018) Official Documentary.



  145. max

    The reality is, if the kid isn’t wanted before birth, it won’t be very welcome afterwards, either.
    That’s a recipe for a lifetime of substance abuse, imprisonment, and madness.

    Oh. You mean similar to the baby Beethoven ?

  146. stackja

    struth
    #2750696, posted on June 30, 2018 at 10:33 am
    Not to mention jailing Pauline.

    But some still think of party hack Abbort as some sort of right wing god.

    PHON and TA are now a team. Demonising TA is unhelpful.

  147. stackja

    How Trump’s next move could affect women’s rights
    DENNIS ATKINS
    Dennis Atkins
    June 30, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    A USUALLY hidden secret of Donald Trump’s presidency was thrown into stark relief this week with the anticipated but still unexpected retirement of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy.

    Kennedy was an increasingly rare breed in modern American politics, a moderate Republican appointed three decades ago by President Ronald Reagan.

    He often held firm with his conservative colleagues on the nine member bench — a majority almost entrenched by Trump’s appointment last year of Neil Gorsuch — but was a significant “swing” vote on often iconic social and civil rights issues.

    He played a key role in enshrining women’s fertility rights, marriage equality, the Constitutional limits of capital punishment, habeas corpus applying to terrorists, pro-free speech (including the right to burn the US flag) but also supporting the right of civic bodies to open meetings with prayer.

    Kennedy had a significant record upholding more traditional conservative positions such as the right to bear arms, the rights of corporations to pollute the environment in certain circumstances, backing strip searches of inmates and major states’ rights cases.

    On gay rights, Kennedy long championed the freedom of people to express their sexuality as they pleased — he wrote the Court’s decision to invalidate Texas law criminalising sodomy and ruled against a narrow definition of marriage. Most significantly, in 2015, Kennedy wrote the historic judgment that same sex couple had a right to marry in all 50 US states.

    Perhaps his greatest legacy on the conservative side of the ledger was in the Citizens United case which allowed powerful super-Political Action Committees to spend an unlimited amount of money on attacking candidates in elections.

    ….

    The New York Times’ specialist Supreme Court writer Emily Bazelon said this week the conservatives on the Court had used their votes and decisions in an effort to shape the pivotal cultural touchstone in US politics — abortion rights.

    “Now access to abortion is squarely on the line,” she wrote.

    “Justice Kennedy joined with Justices O’Connor and David Souter to preserve it in 1992 … and he agreed with his four liberal colleagues in 2016 that Texas couldn’t close down clinics by claiming to protect women’s health, since the facts contradicted that claim.

    “It’s just a matter of how far and fast (conservative justices) tack in the opposite direction.”

    Bazelon said agitation towards Senators Collins and Murkowski would occupy Democrats and other pro-choice activists in the lead up to a vote in four or five months.

    “Whatever happens, the ballot will be the voters’ response,” she said.

    “The Supreme Court may already be transformed by then, it’s true. Still, if ever there were a time for more people to reckon with what the court means in American life, it’s now.”

    Dennis Atkins is The Courier-Mail’s national affairs editor.

  148. stackja

    Living Constitution’ Faces a Mercy Killing
    Jonah Goldberg Jonah Goldberg |Posted: Jun 29, 2018 12:01 AM

    How dare an 81-year-old man retire from the Supreme Court. How dare he.

    That, in a nutshell, seems to be the widespread reaction among many liberals to the announcement that Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy will step down from the bench next month.

    “Anthony Kennedy Just Destroyed His Legacy as a Gay Rights Hero,” announced a headline at Slate. Twitter, that great Hieronymus Bosch painting of our collective id, was aflame in what can only be described as full-on liberal panic. “The future of our democracy is at stake,” proclaimed House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

    This gnashing of teeth and rending of cloth is a symptom of the dysfunction and corruption of the constitutional order. The reason Kennedy’s retirement matters so much is that he was the swing vote — the justice who could bequeath victory or defeat to the liberal or conservative bloc in any important case that divided the court.

    And the reason the swing vote matters so much is that we’ve made the Supreme Court far too important in our lives. By being the deciding vote on so many issues, Kennedy in effect became the court itself, making him the de facto incarnation of the judicial branch, the way the president is the physical personification of the executive branch. This became all the more problematic because Kennedy’s philosophy of judicial review all too often took the form of a deep personal inventory of his feelings rather than of the Constitution’s text.

    Thus, Kennedy’s decision not to live forever — or at least until a Democratic appointee could replace the Reagan-appointed justice — was seen as a personal betrayal, because the political has become so personal for so many.

    ….

    This idea that the Supreme Court is there to serve as a Praetorian Guard around progressive policies was on full display this week. Prior to Kennedy’s retirement announcement, the court issued a 5-4 ruling in Janus v. AFSCME which held that public-sector unions can’t compel nonunion members to pay fees for union representation, thus violating the First Amendment.

    Justice Elena Kagan caustically disagreed. For her, the problem with the decision was that, “Public employee unions will lose a secure source of financial support.”

    “The First Amendment was meant for better things,” Kagan concluded in her dissent. “It was meant not to undermine but to protect democratic governance — including over the role of public-sector unions.”

    In short: The Supreme Court isn’t there to protect the meaning of the First Amendment; the Supreme Court is there is protect a secure source of financial support for public-sector unions. If the First Amendment gets in the way, that’s OK.

    The panic unfolding across the progressive landscape stems from the creeping fear that the Supreme Court might start doing its job — and not the job progressives have assigned it.

  149. Rape isn’t a moral issue for White people.

    Something tells me a very peculiar usage of morality is being employed here.

  150. Boambee John

    When will the reactionary lackey of the fsacist left establishment, m0nty, be here to regale us with the latest talking points from the DNC, MSM, Soros or HuffPo, or the latest chatter from lefty blogs?

    The tension while we wait for the inevitable impeachment of President Trump is excruciating.

  151. struth

    Rape isn’t a moral issue for White people.
    Most of the other Races have a Laissez Faire attitude to it, though.

    Race, race, race, race, race, race………………………………….the left ……………………….can’t see past it.

  152. stackja

    C.L
    #2750597, posted on June 30, 2018 at 8:26 am

    I am reading SD book. Will not bother with GH again.

  153. notafan

    Funny how Amazon US are refusing to ship to Australia because of the new GST rules but have decided to comply on their fully owned subsidiary site Abebooks, I bet their fully owned subsidiary Book depository will too.

  154. stackja

    notafan
    #2750760, posted on June 30, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    Amazon are ‘playing a game’. Like Lottoland.

  155. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I doubt she will travel back to South Africa anytime soon.

    FARMLANDS (2018) Official Documentary.

    I thought South Africa was going to be a new Utopia under the African National Congress Government?

  156. Chris

    I thought South Africa was going to be a new Utopia under the African National Congress Government?

    Faith, and to be sure, Zimbabwe, South Africa and more recently Iraq have demonstrated to obvious consequences of Democracy.

  157. Snoopy

    Macro business.com.au

    Mass immigration is not designed to be fixed. It’s designed to break our cities so that certain industries can make out-sized profits while everyone else sees falling living standards.

    These industries include:

    – media which relies on real estate listings;
    – big construction which builds and owns the infrastructure;
    – real estate which builds and sells land and homes;
    – finance which clips the ticket; and
    – retail which enjoys volume growth.

    State governments get to pretend that they’re good managers via stamp duty gains and the Federal government gets more tax-payers to repair the budget.

    But everything outside of this giant parasite cops falling living standards, hollowing out and huge debt accumulation. That includes:

    – workers via lower wages;
    – households via lower incomes plus higher taxes and charges plus radically reduced public amenities; and
    – tradable industries that can’t compete with the high currency.

    RTWT

  158. Snoopy

    A USUALLY hidden secret of Donald Trump’s presidency was thrown into stark relief this week with the anticipated but still unexpected retirement of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy.

    What is the secret, Foxtail you flog?

  159. BorisG

    p.s Sinclair and Berg’s book seems to have put the wind right up the ABC’s skirts.
    Surely a good thing in itself?

    Yes. And it’s funny how ABC apologists give it, and the issues it raises, excellent publicity.

  160. C.L

    Kennedy was an increasingly rare breed in modern American politics, a moderate Republican appointed three decades ago by President Ronald Reagan.

    Funny how journalists never refer to “moderate Democrats” but “moderate Republicans” are always referred to as a good thing (because, by definition, they are not very committed to conservative and rightist principles).

    He often held firm with his conservative colleagues on the nine member bench — a majority almost entrenched by Trump’s appointment last year of Neil Gorsuch — but was a significant “swing” vote on often iconic social and civil rights issues.

    He played a key role in enshrining women’s fertility rights, marriage equality, the Constitutional limits of capital punishment, habeas corpus applying to terrorists, pro-free speech (including the right to burn the US flag) but also supporting the right of civic bodies to open meetings with prayer.

    Gee, that was big of him. Private citizens can pray in public, if they so choose!

    By “fertility rights,” Atkins means the ‘right’ to kill unborn children. (The opposite of fertility).
    By “marriage equality,” Atkins means allowing homosexuals to pretend to be married.
    ———-
    So they you have it: witness how journalists breezily distort the truth for their own ideological causes. “Moderate Republican,” “fertility rights” and “marriage equality” are all leftist slogans.

  161. H B Bear

    nemsock why don’t you turn off the computer and go and play in the traffic.

  162. Chris

    go and play in the traffic.

    Go and tell Mummy she wants you.

  163. C.L

    The New York Times’ specialist Supreme Court writer Emily Bazelon said this week the conservatives on the Court had used their votes and decisions in an effort to shape the pivotal cultural touchstone in US politics — abortion rights.

    The Pivotal Cultural Touchstone.
    Atkins is saying abortion is like that piece of meteor in Mecca. And it is reverenced in exactly the same way, with leftists and feminists walking in circles around it like pious zombies.

  164. Rae

    So the Solicitor-General of Dickhead Dan’s CFMEU caliphate is an angry, butt-ugly bull dyke political activist.

    No. Your comment appears to be influenced by your never ending search for someone less mediocre than yourself. Kristen Walker is eminently qualified to be Solicitor-General for the State of Victoria, as can be easily seen from the following:

    Ms Walker is one of Australia’s most distinguished advocates and legal scholars, recognised around Australia as a leading expert in constitutional, administrative and human rights law.

    Ms Walker has appeared regularly in the High Court, the Court of Appeal, the Supreme Court and the Federal Court in cases involving constitutional, administrative and human rights law. Prior to her appointment as senior counsel she often appeared as junior to the Solicitors-General for Victoria and the Commonwealth.

    Ms Walker has frequently advised the Victorian and Australian Governments on constitutional, statutory interpretation and administrative law issues.

    From 2011 to 2012, Ms Walker was legal adviser to the high-profile Independent Inquiry into the Media and Media Regulation, conducted by Ray Finkelstein QC.

    Ms Walker is a Principal Fellow at the University of Melbourne, where she has lectured in constitutional, administrative and international law, and written advocacy, since 1994. She was an Adjunct Professor at Columbia University Law School in New York from 1998 to 2000, and a visiting professor at the University of Arizona, James E Rogers College of Law in 2004. Ms Walker was an associate to Sir Anthony Mason, Chief Justice of Australia, from 1993 to 1994.

    Ms Walker was admitted to legal practice in 1993, signed the Bar Roll in 2004, and was appointed senior counsel in 2014. She holds a Bachelor of Laws (Honours) and Bachelor of Science from the University of Melbourne, where she won the Supreme Court Prize for best law graduate.

    She also holds a Master of Laws from the University of Melbourne, and a Master of Laws from Columbia Law School, New York, where she studied as a Fulbright Scholar.

  165. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So she ‘advised’ Finkelstein? Enough said. His name is a byword for censorship and leftism.

  166. C.L

    Ms Walker is one of Australia’s most distinguished advocates and legal scholars, recognised around Australia as a leading expert in constitutional, administrative and human rights law.

    It’s not a big ask to be a “leading expert” in Australian constitutional law.
    It’s one statute.
    Human rights law is more or less an old-fashioned women’s hobby.

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    nemsock why don’t you turn off the computer and go and play in the traffic.

    ….. with some matches and kero. Here y’are.

    I’m sure Calli can provide some icons for those. 🙂

  168. C.L

    She also holds a Master of Laws from the University of Melbourne, and a Master of Laws from Columbia Law School, New York, where she studied as a Fulbright Scholar.

    What sort of autist gets two Masters degrees in the same subject?

  169. Tom

    Beep boop. Sock shift change.

  170. Shy Ted

    End of financial year sales, gotta luv ’em. Just saw Islamic lady (I presume, full burqa and body bag) examining a bikini and pop it in her trolley. Not sure if it will be worn under or over.

  171. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ms Walker has appeared regularly in the High Court, the Court of Appeal, the Supreme Court and the Federal Court in cases involving constitutional, administrative and human rights law.

    Bit of a black mark there in the rise to eminence. However, she appears to have avoided sniffing around matters sexual, the natural calling of so many learned wimminzes. Likewise, no mention of Family Law, the convenient roost for vengeful, misandrist lawyerly plodders.

  172. Looks like another Saturday where the Cat is responsible for babysitting nemkunt, who’s parents have left him home alone for the weekend, again.

    Wouldn’t you?

  173. Chris

    End of financial year sales, gotta luv ’em.

    Machinery House…
    Toolmart…
    Carba-Tec
    NO! Bad Chris.

  174. Shy Ted

    Solicitor-General for Victoria, Kristen Walker
    Don’t live in Victoriastan, but try to follow your news cos it’s so effin hilarious for non-residents, but clearly she’s the best man for the job.

  175. Dr Fred Lenin

    Reading one of US Supreme Court dissenting judges was against not compelling public servants to pay union fees ,on the grounds “it would deprive the union of funds” !! This woman is “impartial”? Sounds like a paid up decromat aparatchik , I hope Trump gets a real strong conservative male in place in the Supreme Court and they stick it right up the u.n.communist fascist so called democrats . I mean the Real Democrats were always corrupt , bribe taking ,vote rigging racists but they weren’t communists .

  176. Gary

    If those two clowns on Outsiders watched this they would not have sounded like gibbering idiots.

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If Abbort was anything more than the party hack team player he is, he would have already left the Liberals and at least run as an independent.

    He’s hoping for a return to leadership? Cat discussion IRL last night did canvass that the pressure to keep Malcolm (where his dummy spit would collapse the government) might be off if two seats went Lib in the coming Saturday bye-elections. Then they could kiss Malcolm goodbye (have to pay back a lot of money for that) and .. well, then the discussion went back to the horrors of Julie Bishop or Morrison, with some thoughts that Tony might rise on a wave of post-Malcolm exuberance. What is clear is that back-bench rumblings are getting louder. If plus ca change, let’s see what Tony does then.

    Aust Cons ready and waiting on the sidelines with the most impressive Riccardo.

  178. Confused Old Misfit

    Students Want Top Earners to Pay Their Tuition

    I thought there was a Sugar Daddy Program to take care of that sort of thing?

  179. Shy Ted

    Jacinda Ardern is the very hero the global left needs right now – Van Madham at The Guardian.
    The leader of the first Labour government in New Zealand for a decade shares the explicit left agenda for investment in health, education and climate action, public housing, social justice. Ardern’s pledge to build “a kind and equitable nation where children thrive, and success is measured not only by the nation’s GDP but by better lives lived by its people”. Finally someone who is absolutely, positively, definitely, undeniably going to make socialism work.
    Successful policies will include
    a $3.2bn increase in health spending, a commitment to build an extra 1,600 properties for public housing every year, cheaper doctor’s visits for half a million people (and free for those under 14), $450m for new schools, and $300m to recruit new police officers. Early childhood education receiving an extra $590.2m over four years, $284m for children with special needs and spending on new classrooms and schools and teachers totalling $394m. The Department of Conservation received its biggest funding boost since 2002.
    Mrs Ed said, “In 15 or 20 or 30 years’ time I want my child to look back on the history books and judge me and this government favourably, rather than deciding to change their name.” Baby Ed’ name is Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford. And if Baby Ed gets bullied at school it’s sexism. Or something else if the bullies are girls.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Students Want Top Earners to Pay Their Tuition

    The stunned silences, when little Miss Cupcake was asked how all this was to be paid for, said it all…Ninety percent tax rate…

  181. Gary

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2750800, posted on June 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    Students Want Top Earners to Pay Their Tuition
    I thought there was a Sugar Daddy Program to take care of that sort of thing?

    Cant have both party’s benefit can they.

  182. Gab

    Anyone who ends their sentences as though it was a question – an upward inflection – is to be ignored for the ignorati they are.

    Keely being the prime example.

  183. Leigh Lowe

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2750796, posted on June 30, 2018 at 1:26 pm
    Reading one of US Supreme Court dissenting judges was against not compelling public servants to pay union fees ,on the grounds “it would deprive the union of funds” !!

    Presumably bank robbery would get a free pass because, to outlaw it would deprive bank robbers of funds.
    That is the bint appointed by Obumbi who proudly claims she doesn’t read the Constitution … “it’s the vibe” is her guide.
    Anyhoo … she’s is going to be writing vacuous minority dissenting judgements until she dies.

  184. candy

    Then they could kiss Malcolm goodbye

    I really don’t see any of that, Lizzie, not at all. The LNP pretty much love Malcolm Turnbull and right now he’s more popular in the electorate than Bill Shorten whose position looks pretty dicey.
    Also M. Turnbull is basking in the glow of Trump and immigration policies and stopping boats. Not that he did any of that as Tony Abbott did and MT tried to sabotage operation sovereign borders appearing on Q&A and sneering about stopping boats and at TA in general, but he hopes Trump does not find out.

    No, MT is very safe. It’s the Labor leadership that is the big question. Shorten or Albo or Bowen or Plibersek.

  185. Gab

    The stunned silences, when little Miss Cupcake was asked how all this was to be paid for, said it all…Ninety percent tax rate…

    What a pity no one asked her if she’d be willing to forgo 90% of her wages to provide for someone else’s education.

  186. Ellen of Tasmania

    Atkins is saying abortion is like that piece of meteor in Mecca. And it is reverenced in exactly the same way, with leftists and feminists walking in circles around it like pious zombies.

    Child sacrifices to the gods. Think how important it is to these people. Pious pagans.

    Proverbs 8:36: “But he that sinneth against Me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate Me love death.”

  187. Gab

    That “Keely” interview was from 2015. And apparently she lied …

    Northeastern University student Keely Mullins, an organizer of the “Million Student March” who represented herself as “working class” in a recent Fox Business interview, actually comes from a privileged (and gender-bending!) family herself.

    NewBostonPost reports that Mullen’s father paid more than $1 million for the family home on Chicago’s North Side 10 years ago, and Keely graduated from a high school whose tuition “tops out at $34,560.”

    I wonder where she is now?

  188. cohenite

    The stunned silences, when little Miss Cupcake was asked how all this was to be paid for, said it all…Ninety percent tax rate…

    That was funny in a sort of redback down the undies way.

  189. Rae

    Anyone who ends their sentences as though it was a question – an upward inflection – is to be ignored for the ignorati they are.

    The upward inflection at the end of each sentence is very common to Australians. So much so that that Australians visiting England are often mimicked by the English in a scornful way. Indeed, it is so widespread among Australians that I would have no doubt that the upward inflection is entrenched in your own manner of speaking. And probably that of every other person who comments here.

    Perhaps we should all ignore each other. That should be fun.

    [Americans can be noticed finishing their sentences in the same way]

  190. Gab

    That “Keely” interview was from 2015. And apparently she lied …

    Northeastern University student Keely Mullins, an organizer of the “Million Student March” who represented herself as “working class” in a recent Fox Business interview, actually comes from a privileged (and gender-bending!) family herself.

    NewBostonPost reports that Mullen’s father paid more than $1 million for the family home on Chicago’s North Side 10 years ago, and Keely graduated from a high school whose tuition “tops out at $34,560.”

    I wonder where she is now? Oh here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keelymullen/

  191. JC

    A lot of people here suggest voting Lib or lab doesn’t matter , as they’re all the same.

    This story came out in earlier in the month.

    Tax system discriminates against women: Tanya Plibersek

  192. Gab

    That “Kee ly” interview was from 2015. And apparently she lied …

    Northeastern University student Kee ly Mullens, an organizer of the “Million Student March” who represented herself as “working class” in a recent Fox Business interview, actually comes from a privileged (and gender-bending!) family herself.

    NewBostonPost reports that Mullen’s father paid more than $1 million for the family home on Chicago’s North Side 10 years ago, and Ke ely graduated from a high school whose tuition “tops out at $34,560.”

    I wonder where she is now? Oh here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keelymullen/

  193. H B Bear

    Graegooglery, the thinking man’s sock, reports in. Clearly the unhinged lunacy of nemsock wasn’t working.

  194. Confused Old Misfit

    The upward inflection at the end of each sentence was invented by Canadians. Get it right, eh!

  195. Gab

    I don’t believe anyone has ever accused Canadians of being intelligent – and after voting for Justin …

  196. H B Bear

    More bad news for Peanut Head. Prof van Wrongselen in Teh Weekend Australian – “Bill’s stupid tax trip-up will hurt him but not prove fatal.” Expect this to be a case study in next years curriculum at the School of Wrongology.

  197. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume right up.

    The ever popular

    Pachelbel’s Canon in D – Academy of St. Martin’s in the Field Orchestra

  198. JC

    You gotta laugh, as the fucker is totally self unaware. The oracle speaks.

    Notice where is though. He’s as useless as bull’s tits.

    BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Barack Obama’s message to Democrats: Stop dreaming of him.

    Speaking at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser Thursday here in the lush backyard of two party megadonors, Obama warned of a country and world on the brink — “you are right to be concerned,” he told the crowd — but said they’d flub their chance to change that if they kept pining for a magical savior.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/barack-obama-advice-to-democrats-685940

  199. urb

    #2750728, posted on June 30, 2018 at 11:03 am
    Your desire to nourish and support a life is hard for the left to comprehend.

    Are there any happy adopted children?
    Probably. About 1 in 500.

    I am adopted & very happy. You don’t speak for me thanks fuckwit

  200. Rae

    The upward inflection at the end of each sentence was invented by Canadians. Get it right, eh!

    I didn’t say who invented it. So maybe you should take your own advice, eh!

    And I haven’t noticed any Canadians doing it.

  201. JC

    Gab
    #2750824, posted on June 30, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    I don’t believe anyone has ever accused Canadians of being intelligent – and after voting for Justin …

    I recently made that suggestion or something similar and the Dutch supermodel threw herself into the blog screaming I had no right to say that because I’m of north African descent or some such.

    Where is that bundle of joy, as I want to talk to her about that. I had to go out and then forgot.

  202. Pedro the Ignorant

    Counterpoint tp Pachelbel’s Canon.

    Another classic, modern era:

  203. Farmer Gez

    The upward inflection is a Queensland, Northern NSW thing but like Cane Toads, it’s spreading.
    As a Vic country lad I’d never heard it until we went on holidays up North in the early 80’s. Amused the hell out of us then, Ay?

  204. JC

    I was giving an American view on Canadians. Americans think Canadians are drunks, live in a shithole environment (on top of an iceberg) with a maximum 3 days of hot weather year and the gals are not very good looking.

    I liked Montreal though. The bistro are fabulous.

    It’s hard to believe, but there are people in Montreal who can only speak frog… Just an 1 1/2 flight time out of NY.

  205. Makka

    Jointly together in agreement, both Flynn’s defense team *and* the Mueller Special Counsel team ask the judge for a new 60 day delay before scheduling Flynn’s sentencing hearing.

    Hmm. Judge not happy.

    Is this the reason?

    Could be Mueller wants to see what evidence Horowitz/Huber have on Strzok & Page trying to work the Flynn case judge, and also any information on altered 302 interview forms. (Was McCabe trying to frame Flynn? Nahh)

    Also wants to wait to see if FBI SA Joe Pientka testifies, and if so, what he says.
    After yet ANOTHER sentencing delay, it’s becoming clear either Mueller is playing along or he is completely paralyzed and can’t move forward to sentencing until he KNOWS what evidence Horowitz/Huber have on Strzok & Page working the Flynn case judge, Rudolph Contreras.

    Flynn is going to flip any day now, right mUnty?

  206. DrBeauGan

    armer Gez
    #2750836, posted on June 30, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    The upward inflection is a Queensland, Northern NSW thing but like Cane Toads, it’s spreading.
    As a Vic country lad I’d never heard it until we went on holidays up North in the early 80’s. Amused the hell out of us then, Ay?

    I heard in WA twenty years ago? If anything it seems to have died out?

  207. nemkat

    I am adopted & very happy. You don’t speak for me thanks fuckwit

    LOL
    Yeah, you sound very happy.

  208. Rae

    I don’t believe anyone has ever accused Canadians of being intelligent

    We met a nice old Canadian gent on a cruise a few years ago. He was a Korean War veteran and said many complimentary things about the Australian servicemen he met there. He and they were probably far more intelligent that you could ever hope to be.

  209. Confused Old Misfit

    I didn’t say who invented it.

    What makes you think I give a SFF for what you said? For a clearly no taller than 5′ 1″ excuse for a humanoid you’ve got an awfully inflated sense of your own importance. You would not have noticed any Canadians doing anything as you would have been paying attention only to your own drivelling utterances.

    Gab
    #2750824, posted on June 30, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    You are undoubtedly correct at least concerning a plurality of the population. Like some others whose sobriquets will remain unmentioned, Justin, the Child, has a vastly overrated opinion the sanctity of his opinions. But, like the supporters of our Mal, there are still those who think the sun shines from the darkest recesses.

  210. struth

    LOL
    Yeah, you sound very happy.

    You don’t get the difference between a low tolerance for fools and happiness?

  211. Makka

    LOL
    Yeah, you sound very happy.

    Of course he is. He just identified you as a fkwit. So much the better to interpret your sockie comments.

    The thing is, no matter how many socks you pull on Grigsie, you can still be easily identified as a dickhead.

    Pretty fking sad really.

  212. nemkat

    You don’t get the difference between a low tolerance for fools and happiness?

    Not seeing it.
    What do you say the difference is, erm, notafool?

  213. Zatara

    Bitcoin bloodbath nears dot-com levels as many tokens go to zero

    Down 70 percent from its December high after sliding for a fourth straight day on Friday, bitcoin is getting ever-closer to matching the Nasdaq Composite Index’s 78 percent peak-to-trough plunge after the U.S. dot-com bubble burst.

    Ouch, that’s got to sting.

  214. Snoopy

    Bitcoin bloodbath nears dot-com levels as many tokens go to zero

    Coinopsy.

    LOL

  215. notafan

    If everyone in New Zealand is happy why do they need more police?

  216. Snoopy

    So is Mueller shocked to discover he himself is one of the more honest swamp dwellers?

  217. nemkat

    Maoris and Islanders.
    New Zealand has the highest rate of Rape, and te highest rate of Burglary in the Western world.
    That’s due mostly to Maoris, who have te highest rates of Psychopathy of any Race, and being founded by essentially lawless Scots wouldn’t help, eiter.

  218. Helen

    JC, thanks, yes it did read like he was suggesting he could do better. (With Joe’s joint venture support)

    They have mothballed it which means they are doing basic maintenance so it could start up again very quickly.

    What he says about lack of expertise is true, though I dont know you need that at board level, just management level.

    The abbatoir in North WA is working very well, smaller and they dont buy cattle unless they have a contract to supply. He is looking at expanding.

    AAco were buying then looking for a market and if you looked at the overall sale price for their product, they seemed to be underselling, which maybe translates as a lack of marketing skills.

    Anyway we will wait and see.

  219. Gab

    Canadians are to Americans what Belgians are to the French and what Tasmainiacs are to mainland Australians. (hzhousewife and other Tas Cats excluded)

  220. John Constantine

    The concerning thing about the Northern Territory meatworks on care and maintenance is how much it costs to keep a meatworks ready to go.

    If bacteria get into insulation in an area that should be too hot or cold for bacteria to thrive, but is sitting at Darwin temperatures because the power isn’t being used, it will be hard to get a permit to reopen.

    Without regular cleaning and keeping cockroaches and mice and rats away, being able to reopen is an issue.

    Traditionally, when a meatworks shuts, the workers do a bit of looting to get even with management as they leave, plus items of value are noted for later reference.

    The AAC were obeying the mcgauchie method of hiring teams of high paid consultants to reinvent the company and spend heaps of capital building a legacy.

    Trying to be prove that you are the smartest man in the room is a crap way to manage other peoples money.

    In short, feeding cows on grass and getting the numbers right and breeding right and types of grass right and nutrition of and by grass right and supplementary feeding right is something that actually takes dedication and skill.

    AAC had a massive advantage in low cost, low risk rangeland grassfed cattle production. Now they actually intend to screw down the staff and contractors working on their grassfed operations to claw back money squandered on the meatworks.

    The recruitment of Jessica Rudd to the board as they built the meatworks is an indication of the importance to the board of signalling to Australias crony class as being more vital than recruiting experienced managers of the new enterprise they just bet the future of the company on.

    The split up value of the properties making up AAC are the items of interest, the current directors actually chop back the value of the company so substantially that simply firing them all in a coup would create a hundred million in value.

    The shareprice of AAC actually gets better, the closer the directors get to being given the arse, so I cannot bring myself to re-enter it.

    Pity the meatworks wasn’t built by the chinese.

  221. Rae

    What makes you think I give a SFF for what you said?

    Flying Fucks are for ducks old fella. You do sound a bit quackers.

    PS. I’m not quite 5’8″.

  222. Gab

    lol poor little petal vanOnselen has blocked me on Twitter Ahahahahaha!

  223. nemkat

    AAco were buying then looking for a market and if you looked at the overall sale price for their product, they seemed to be underselling, which maybe translates as a lack of marketing skills.

    Vertical integration was tried by Swift when they came out here in the 1910s. It didn’t work then, it won’t work now.
    There were meatworks from Derby to Townsville into the 1980s, but they were seasonal, the workforce largely traveled from interstate, the season was only 3 months long, and some years they didn’t open at all.

    Red lights should’ve flashed when these rogues said they could build a works in Darwin that ran all year round, but it looks like Union, Banks, and Government were asleep at the wheel.

  224. tgs

    Holy crap did anyone else get the clip of TA smashing a tinny at the Manly Oval on instagram? Fucking killed it.

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