Open Forum: June 30, 2018

Posted on 12:01 am, June 30, 2018 by Sinclair Davidson

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Steve trickler

#2751452, posted on July 1, 2018 at 11:59 am

Excellent work, Owen.

He’ll snag many with this.
Ros

#2751453, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:00 pm

“By Thursday, the fundraiser has received money from about half a million donors and raised more than $16 million. Facebook says it is the largest fundraiser to date, topping other major fundraisers like the $10 million raised to aid victims of Hurricane Harvey.Z”

Currently approaching 21 million and from 530,000 whom I assume are suffering from “rage” giving”, an active response unlike “slacktivism”. “While rage giving looks a lot like altruism—which is a form of prosocial behavior—altruism carries no personal benefit to the giver. In the age of Trump, the release that rage givers experience (confirmed by personal experience) is significantly self-beneficial.”

Arrived at this wandering around stories about Beyonce and the BeyHive, another aspect of the almost incomprehensible for me, online world.

Not a nice thing,
“How Beyoncé’s worker bees — the most committed fans on the internet — organize
The BeyHive is massive — more than 17,000 members strong, and that’s just the active participants on the forum, not the hangers-on (one must apply for access to the group) But the club’s intense organization and tactical offense suggest it is a well-oiled machine. So how does such a huge, entirely remote body move with such precision, and what technology does it use to do so?

Ask a BeyHive member how they function and they’ll usually refer you to a 2010 Tumblr post written by Lauren Agnew titled “Know Your Bees.” Frustrated by the tendency for the media to clump together Beyoncé fans as one hater-silencing swarm, Agnew wrote a bee-themed guide to the hive’s personality types, which Beyoncé republished for her website’s debut. “Digger bees” (referred to elsewhere as “worker bees”) are the group’s amateur journalists, scouring the internet for new information on Beyoncé and — in the case of some forum moderators — communicating with sources they’ve cultivated over the years. …….. Honeybees, Beyoncé’s most peaceful fans, typically focus on praising the artist rather than seeking out her critics (a.k.a. “wasps”). Yellowjackets are seasonal Beyoncé fans, and members look down upon them for their lack of loyalty. And killer bees attack. (Beyoncé’s site tellingly left out that description)……

Regardless of whether the bee metaphor speak to you, the categories are helpful for understanding the way the hive processes and responds to information at the initial stages on message boards. The worker or digger bees feed the forum’s most popular threads with information about Beyoncé and often break small snippets of news that are whisked away and trumpeted on other social media platforms. The honeybees flood comment sections and their own fan pages with their awe. And the killer bees take stock of whom they should target.”

And it gets really scary
“Moderators don’t come in and ask the troops to “drag” a hater, as they call it — it usually happens through conversation. Which brings us to the “car fax”: Upset forum members might ask the digger bees to give them a full overview of a detractor’s career, which arms the incensed fans with all the necessary information for confrontation when they head out to various social media platforms.”

The 21 million, an emergent event from the BorderFamiliesHive, or rather the TDSHive
stackja

#2751454, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:02 pm

How house prices and botched council amalgamations are driving racial segregation
BEN PIKE, The Sunday Telegraph
July 1, 2018 12:00am
Subscriber only

SYDNEY is being locked into a future of ethnic “ghettos” because of the state government’s botched council amalgamations and expensive housing.

Western Sydney University Associate Professor Awais Piracha said booming levels of immigration and a lack of new dwellings across all parts of the city is further encouraging racial segregation.

Suburbs with the most new arrivals are almost exclusively in Western Sydney, where migrants from a single country can make up more than half the local population.

“What is the point of being in a place like Sydney if you are with the same sort of people you were before?,” the Professor of Urban Planning told The Sunday Telegraph.
Myrddin Seren

#2751455, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:02 pm

Roger

I posted some fairly recent stats on German military readiness yesterday evening.

They look to be in an even worse state than us.

Indeed – I had that link in mind, as I am sure Mad Dog Mattis and perhaps The Donald are mindful of too.

There is a trajectory for running down the military hardware – and that is the neglect flows through to the boots on the ground:

This is a Google translate of an article from Zild in 2012 ( pointed to by Richard North at Eureferendum.com ) :

Fear loaded weapons, lack of knowledge and a danger to comrades: German soldiers come with serious shortcomings in the training to Afghanistan.

The Bundeswehr makes soldiers before deployment in Afghanistan inadequate in dealing with weapons. An internal document, the present time describes serious shortcomings in the shooting practice, the soldiers at the beginning of their deployment in Mazar-i-Sharif must be completed.

The headquarters company lists common mistakes of the soldiers in the paper. Thus, soldiers can not check properly and reload your weapon, are afraid to use loaded weapons, ammunition lose, do not shoot the prescribed manner and show no “understanding of the need for safe handling”. For some soldiers firing exercise even had to be canceled in order “not to jeopardize” other soldiers.

I also read that under actual sustained combat in Afghanistan, the German Army’s standard issue rifle rapidly wore out and became inaccurate, requiring an urgent replacement programme.

The Australian Uniparty thinks they can work around this by tossing extravagant amounts of money at defence procurement, which routinely seems to arrive at ‘bloated, slow, late and unfit for expeditionary operations with our allies’.

And I am sure there are other ‘benefits’ to be had in paying 2-4 times what anyone else does for comparable kit.

So they can point at The Spend to the Americans, while simultaneously turning the ‘Boots on the Ground’ in to a social justice employment scheme ( Mad Dog Morrison).

The Donald surely has enough on his plate, but at some point I would love to see them give the Uniparty sufficient incentive to get the ADF in to proper shape.
mh

#2751456, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:03 pm

Queensland now has $6,000 fines for any retailer supplying Featherlight Multi-Use Clean bags.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751457, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:03 pm

. I do wonder whether she had been briefed by Coles or brainwashed by her years of state education.

Presented half a paw paw. ‘What’s that?” was the response. I said, “It’s pumpkin.” Across the store there blared, “Service from grocery on Number 6.”
stackja

#2751458, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:04 pm

While North and Western Europeans immigrants cluster around Manly and Coogee, South Asian immigrants have concentrated around Harris Park and northeast Asian immigrants around Rhodes and Clyde.

Fairfield and Bossley Park remains the preferred area for Middle Eastern immigrants.

Dr Ernest Healy from The Australian Population Research Institute, said the problem of ethnic spatial concentration combined with economic disadvantage is getting worse.

“They grow up in an environment that is not typical of Australian society at all,” he said of migrants isolated by language, employment and wider social connection.

“Once this disadvantage becomes intergenerational governments and societies have a serious problem.

“I suspect it is getting worse and a big part of that is the housing market.”

Prof Piracha agrees, saying housing affordability is linked to future ethnic “ghettos”

Fairfield in Sydney’s southwest has absorbed about 9000 refugees in the past two years.

Fairfield Mayor Frank Carbone said the area has about 130 different cultures.

“Refugees will always go to their families but it would be in their interests that they are given opportunities and eventually spread to locations where there is health, education and jobs,” he said.

“Fairfield is a settlement city but the government needs to use this city as a conduit to help them resettle in other regional areas.”

Migrants gravitated to cheaper accommodation and those more affordable homes where concentrated in certain parts of Sydney because of the state government’s botched council amalgamation process.

Most north and eastern councils avoided amalgamation while many southwest Sydney councils became bigger and “Small councils mean small neighbourhood/community groups can easily pressurize/influence councils to stymie any proposals to increase density,” Prof Piracha said.

Parramatta, Bayside, Canterbury-Bankstown and Cumberland Council will take the bulk, according to the Department of Planning.
Boambee John

#2751459, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:09 pm

Peter Castieau
#2751321, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:26 am
Wayne Swan

” We have to stop excessive corporate executive pay rates, it’s damaging society ”

Lol

Perhaps our political and bureaucratic leaders might like to give a good example?
Ros

#2751461, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:10 pm

I assume that John Robb is talking about the same sort of phenomenon as Hives, in discussing open source moral networks.
Moral Warfare: Packetizing Shame
How does the open source moral network — the combo of the #resistance, #metoo and #neveragain — turn lists of violators into something people can easily digest and act upon?
An online system that can work at scale?
I just saw something published on Twitter that moves this closer to reality.
It takes quotes that Brexit supporters have made on Twitter and attaches it to their pictures. Here’s the result:
These “tombstones” are a pretty effective way to publish shame. In this case, speech violations, although it could be a pic of a gun owner or #me too violation. Here’s how this could work at scale:

Tombstone is published. A blockchain?
Tombstone is verified/rated by the network.
Facial recognition (or the network) is used to ID the perpetrators. Or, people are IDed on the fly via smart phone or CCTV.
What happens when a person is IDed in a fully realized system like this? They are shunned – unemployed, disconnected, ostracized, etc.
Fast, dynamic, and at scale.”

These shunned persons he lists here are just plebs. Destroyed.

Robb again,”Weaponized social networks have mounted a successful challenge to an increasingly illegitimate US political system. These networks are now at war with it and each other in a chaotic struggle that may usher in a long night of networked oppression.”
He sees Trump etc as an insurgency and his opposition as “The #resistance uses authority and consensus to achieve success in this dimension of war. For example, the resistance has deep connections in academia, the government, and the (traditional) media. These connections allow it to quickly amass claims of authority that it can use to defend against insurgent attacks and mount disorienting attacks of its own. Also, unlike the insurgency, the resistance is publicly visible online. This visibility allows it to quickly generate “a defacto consensus” on any issue. This consensus can be used to disorient the opposition since many opponents don’t want to be seen as too extreme.”

While Trump is holding his own in this war of Weaponised social networks, so far, I am both impressed by his staying power and his instinctive understanding of the complex systems he is maneuvering in, I wonder how he can in the end prevail. With judges telling Mueller that Mueller that it is obvious he is going after Manafort to try and get Trump somehow and while legal very distasteful, it seems to bother Mueller not one jot. At the same time it seems as if the City States of the North American continent are determined to destroy the Nation State of the USA, how can the USA prevail. I am assuming that as the 21 million for non citizen families when there are so many citizen families in need, living in the City States, who could do with some giving rage rather than occasional slacktivism, says this shrieking by a few of Americas SJWs is just about Trump again, and that he stands for the Nation State.

So goodbye USA, hello Globalist City States of the Metropoles of the North American continent, (who like the Metropoles of Paris etc, need their servant class). And then we are left with Russia and China.

Keep up,the good work Donald.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751462, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:12 pm

The scales have been lifted from my eyes. I now see the tubs of lard as Fat-Positivity Activists. Like the alphabet people there will be additions of inclusivity. Let’s start with the ink: Tat-Fat-Positivity Activists
Confused Old Misfit

#2751463, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:12 pm

stackja
#2751458, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:04 pm
Interesting how there is no distinction made between immigrants and refugees.
Myrddin Seren

#2751464, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm

“What is the point of being in a place like Sydney if you are with the same sort of people you were before?,” the Professor of Urban Planning told The Sunday Telegraph.

The Old Demos is likely to not respond well to Sydney being on target for eleven million people in a dense, highrise environment like, for example, Sao Paulo. See road rage for example. Mentally, people are not coping.

Hence it is assumed by our Moral and Intellectual Superiors that a New Demos, from crowded origins where they seem to have culturally adapted to urban compression, is need to make Big Australia work. Plus it is assumed they will more reliably vote for Uniparty policies.

“Small councils mean small neighbourhood/community groups can easily pressurize/influence councils to stymie any proposals to increase density,” Prof Piracha said.

And there is the money quote. It is all about replacement and population concentration in a few urban centres with dissent being bowled over.
H B Bear

#2751465, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:22 pm

Hence it is assumed by our Moral and Intellectual Superiors that a New Demos, from crowded origins where they seem to have culturally adapted to urban compression, is need to make Big Australia work.

Old Confucian saying, “Do Chinese even know they are living in a Chinese dog box.”

Grasshoppers.
Myrddin Seren

#2751466, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:24 pm

This is interesting:

IRAN WATER PROTESTS Enter 4th Day As Economy Implodes – THOUSANDS Take to the Street

Thousands of people took to the street in protest to lack of drinking water.
The mullahs can’t even keep the water running.

Some years back David Goldman aka Spengler stated his thesis that one of the factors driving the Mullahs’ imperial ambitions was to secure water supplies as their corruption and incompetence meant local sources were failing.

( Other issues Spengler mentioned were a plummeting birth rate, the above noted corruption and incompetence, and a war-economy dependent on oil and gas revenues that was vulnerable ).

It looks like the Shia Twelver chickens are coming home to roost.
egg_

#2751467, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:27 pm

Gary
#2751278, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:08 am
What is your point, Boris?

White anting.

+1

All posturing, never links, the hallmarks of a troll.
egg_

#2751469, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:29 pm

Micro hotel trend of compact, budget, minimalist rooms coming to Melbourne

Who’d pay Sydney rates to stay in tawdry Melbourne?
egg_

#2751470, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:33 pm

Landline highlights BoM talking of a warmer than average Winter.
CAGW spruikers.
Boambee John

#2751471, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:35 pm

THE Australian Human Rights Commission has ordered a financial services company to pay compensation to a registered sex offender it refused to employ after it discovered he had convictions for child p0rn0graphy.

The HRC is not a properly constituted court, and since Brandy’s Case in the High Court, cannot enforce its “orders”,

The correct response to its “orders” is “Fcuk off”!
rickw

#2751472, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:36 pm

They look to be in an even worse state than us.

In Afghanistan the Germans were billed as more of a construction company than an army. Lots of work on their bases, not much patrolling.
JC

#2751474, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:39 pm

Facial recognition (or the network) is used to ID the perpetrators. Or, people are IDed on the fly via smart phone or CCTV.

CCTV by definition means closed circuit, which in turn means the gathered images or film are only available on that circuit. So how does you theory apply here, Buffalo Bill?
Rafe Champion

#2751475, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:42 pm

A pictorial history of Europe showing the shifting national boundaries for 2000 years+.
rickw

#2751476, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:43 pm

“Do Chinese even know they are living in a Chinese dog box.”

A friend of a friend had the water pump at their Chinese restaurant die. I bumped into them at the hardware store and they asked me what size pump. I had a guess, later in the day I was driving past and dropped in to check that my guess was right. The check involved going around the back of the restaurant. My goodness….
rickw

#2751477, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:45 pm

Thousands of people took to the street in protest to lack of drinking water.
The mullahs can’t even keep the water running.

Running water isn’t a feature of your average islamic country.
Myrddin Seren

#2751482, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:55 pm

Running water isn’t a feature of your average islamic country.

They had it. Now it is going away.

Forty years of Shia Revolution is taking the Persians back to a state that would have been considered barbaric
by their ancient ancestors.
egg_

#2751483, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:56 pm

The guy on the far left – Michael Rowland? The beta male from ABC Breakfast? Yep, definitely no fat to cut hey?

Resembles Rowland, but looks more butch.
I doubt that Rowland socialises with the Scrote, he’s allegedly a Rightwing Finance reporter.
Socially he’s a metrosexual but he gives Vitrioli some stick on Economics policy issues.
John Constantine

#2751484, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:00 pm

The Australian government is currently investing in new facial recognition technology, where photo atabases can be linked to public space cameras and big ata crunchers.

Linking to social media where photos are uploaded gives them a better file on you.

Cashless economy, where they have a real time track of your transactions and always on mobile phone tracking is esired, they just need big ata crunching artificial intelligence to get there.

Then they can use ata crunching to track your igital fingerprint, so even if you use privacy protection to hie your ientity, your typing mannerisms an phrasing and preferre wor use can reveal you to the searching A.I.

Even if you have a sticky key on your keyboar , this can be revealing.

Comraes.
Farmer Gez

#2751485, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:01 pm

Sky News’ political reporter and anchor, Caroline Marcus, has issued an on air apology for suggesting the Nine network knew about A Current Affair reporter Ben McCormack’s attraction to young boys but failed to act upon it.

In other words, she knows they knew but has no real evidence to prove it.
Rafe Champion

#2751488, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:03 pm

The strange territories of Spain in North Africa.
incoherent rambler

#2751492, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:08 pm

Landline highlights BoM talking of a warmer than average Winter.
CAGW spruikers.

Dressed in only 3 layers of clothing, I challenge anyone to say it is a warm winter here without turning blue.
Boambee John

#2751496, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:11 pm

Ros at 1210

it seems as if the City States of the North American continent are determined to destroy the Nation State of the USA, how can the USA prevail.

It will come to either a civil war or a “great division”. The former will probably lead to the latter anyway, but going directly there without passing go would be less bloody and traumatic.

Referenda by individual county, those that vote “Blue” in the US sense go one way, the rest the other. The likely result would be an archipelago of your City States set in an ocean of “Red” states. The populations would be similar, but the land areas and associated resources would be very different.

The greenies could then become locavores relying completely on ruinable energy. They could be an example to the world. /sarc/
Tel

#2751497, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:11 pm

In other words, she knows they knew but has no real evidence to prove it.

That’s the #MeToo standard of proof, isn’t it?
Ros

#2751498, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:13 pm

Celebrities quoted at the marches.

“Pop singer Alicia Keys and actress America Ferrera suggested at an open borders protest in Washington, D.C., Saturday that the Trump administration would target their U.S. citizen children.
“I couldn’t imagine being separated from him … or scared about how he is being treated. So, this is all of our fight, because if it can happen to any child, it can happen to my child and your child and all of our children,” Keys said.
Ferrera also suggested that the Trump administration would deport her brother and her sister for being immigrants.
“It is easy to imagine that I would hope that if it was my family being torn apart, if it was my brother being arbitrarily criminalized, if it was my sister who was being banned, that someone would stand up for me and my family.””

Marketwatch

“Narcissists are more likely to donate to charity if the request focuses on them — not the recipient. That’s the finding of new research from the University at Buffalo School of Management.
When charities asked narcissists to imagine the plight of someone else — say, a refugee or someone suffering from a rare disease — they were less likely to donate. But when charities asked narcissists to imagine themselves in the midst of such tragedies, they opened their wallets.”
Rae

#2751499, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:13 pm

The guy on the far left – Michael Rowland? The beta male from ABC Breakfast? Yep, definitely no fat to cut hey?

It’s Adam Cassidy. Barrie Cassidys son. He’s not at the ABC.
Oh come on

#2751500, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:15 pm

The ABC is running the resignation of the US ambassador to Estonia as a lead story. This is not a joke.
egg_

#2751501, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:16 pm

Hence it is assumed by our Moral and Intellectual Superiors that a New Demos, from crowded origins where they seem to have culturally adapted to urban compression, is need to make Big Australia work.

Lack of off street parking and so avoiding Asian kamikazes driving oncoming softroaders in single vehicle only access streets.
Must be keeping panel beater in business.
Baldrick

#2751502, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:16 pm

Scroll the fuckwit Troll 👹 ™
Boambee John

#2751503, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:17 pm

John Constantine at 1300

You had me convinced until you referred to our resident troll.

Comraes!
Baldrick

#2751504, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:18 pm

Landline highlights BoM talking of a warmer than average Winter.
CAGW spruikers.

Even TheirABC’s weatherman had to put a plug in for Gerbil Worming when talking about record low temperatures.
egg_

#2751505, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:21 pm

Adam Cassidy currently works for the International Cricket Council in their East Asia-Pacific office where he works closely with the cricket associations of Vanuatu, Samoa, Fiji and PNG. Adam has travelled extensively throughout the islands and lived for 12 months with a local family in Mele village, Vanuatu as an Australian Government Volunteer.

Reads like a pe do’s CV.
Steve trickler

#2751506, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:21 pm

Just sit back and marvel as these blokes just go for it. A hidden gem of world motor sport, flourishing in the canals and rivers of Thailand.

The safety regulations are strictly enforced.
Bruce of Newcastle

#2751507, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:22 pm

The strange territories of Spain in North Africa.

Almost caused WW1 in 1911.

Agadir Crisis

Germany might very well have won if that had been so, since Russia was still suffering the aftermath of losing the Russo-Japanese War and was a lot weaker than in 1914.
Tel

#2751508, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:23 pm

Linking to social media where photos are uploaded gives them a better file on you.

It would be dreadful if people accidentally upload the wrong photo onto their Space Chook.
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751509, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:23 pm

Women.
Every.
Single.
Time.

Planned Parenthood
@PPFA
What was your first period like? Answer by replying with a gif below.
3:10 AM · Jul 1, 2018
Woolfe

#2751510, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:25 pm

Steve
Those were 2 strokes, think of da warmening, my god man what were you thinking?
Dr Fred Lenin

#2751511, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:26 pm

Myrridin
Interesting about the German army and weapons , during the Napoleanic wars the British Army was fearsome due to the fact that their officers trained them hard in rapid fire and reload , not sparing the powder and shot used . Their volley fire was absolute murder on massed attackers ,and in square they were a murder machine ,as Napoleons magnificent cavalry found out at Waterloo ,and his crack Imperial Guard at the finishing stages of the battle . Nothing beats continual training ,no matter what it costs in money it pays in lives saved and victory. Trump will make them lift their game,never mind paying muslim invaders welfare train your homogenous army ,you will need it when the Muslims make their move
egg_

#2751512, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:29 pm

Aunty was mentioning record lows for Sydney this week.
Reality bites.
Oh come on

#2751513, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:34 pm

Almost caused WW1 in 1911.

It always annoys me when Gavrilo Princip is credited as being this towering historical figure of the 20th century. Nah he really wasn’t. What happened would have happened one way or another.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

#2751514, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:34 pm

Germany might very well have won if that had been so, since Russia was still suffering the aftermath of losing the Russo-Japanese War and was a lot weaker than in 1914.

Re reading Norman Stone’s book on the Eastern Front during the First World War. He makes the claim that Russia was not inferior in 1914, but they failed to exploit their superiority.
Steve trickler

#2751518, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:42 pm

Woolfe
#2751510, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:25 pm
Steve
Those were 2 strokes, think of da warmening, my god man what were you thinking?

I want them to discover nitromethane.
Woolfe

#2751519, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:43 pm

Les Deplorables
‏

@woolfe

Les Deplorables Retweeted Peter Brent
So, same as your ABC?

Peter Brent
‏
Verified account

@mumbletwits
Following
Following @mumbletwits

Peter Brent Retweeted Shannon Molloy

This is a fair point. You could dismiss Sky (or sections of it) as some little niche community tv station broadcasting garbage to a minuscule, deranged minority, except it’s supported by, and broadcast by, the so-called national airline. Eh @Qantas ?
Gary

#2751520, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:49 pm

Tel
#2751497, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:11 pm
In other words, she knows they knew but has no real evidence to prove it.
That’s the #MeToo standard of proof, isn’t it?

I don’t get the connection.
mh

#2751522, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:51 pm

Moore tears:

I’ll surround the U.S. Capitol to stop Trump’s SCOTUS pick: Michael Moore

“I’ll join a million other people surrounding the United States Capitol,” replied Mr. Moore. “I will stand there. I will put my- Bill, let me tell you something. If this judge goes through, for at least the rest of all of our lives, it’s a right-wing court. That’s it. It’s over.”

The Oscar-winning “Bowling for Columbine” director added that he plans to release a new political film prior to Election Day with the goal of getting millions of people to the polls.

“We’re going to bring Trump down,” Mr. Moore said.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/30/michael-moore-says-hell-surround-capital-building-/
Tom

#2751523, posted on July 1, 2018 at 1:58 pm

A pictorial history of Europe showing the shifting national boundaries for 2000 years+.

Thanks, Rafe — brilliant!
H B Bear

#2751525, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:01 pm

Following @mumbletwits
Peter Brent Retweeted Shannon Molloy

Had completely forgotten about this bozo since he was dumped by Teh Australian. See nothing has changed.
Oh come on

#2751527, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:03 pm

“We’re going to bring Trump down,” Mr. Moore said.

No, he’s not. Just like he failed to bring down W. Moore has succeeded in but one thing – he’s got fairly rich off the stupidity of the left.
H B Bear

#2751528, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:05 pm

Thanks, Rafe — brilliant!

+1 Europe has basically been at war since forever. One book I read basically said that it was this state of near constant war that was responsible for the advancement of the European civilization, particularly against the Chinese who had a long period of peace in which a number of inventions and technologies were either forgotten or regressed.
Oh come on

#2751529, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:06 pm

I’ll join a million other people surrounding the United States Capitol,

Whoa, whoa – wait for your orders from Moscow, Mike! They’ll organise everything. Keep checking your Facebook feed.
Gab

#2751530, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:09 pm

With the size of Moore there’ll be no room for any one else to “surround” the Capitol.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751532, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:14 pm

Aussie loses limbs in Canada train fall

Just a spot of train surfing. We used to complain about best and brightest going overseas.
mh

#2751533, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:15 pm

No, he’s not. Just like he failed to bring down W. Moore has succeeded in but one thing – he’s got fairly rich off the stupidity of the left.

And the Australian taxpayer. SBS and the ABC have his ‘documentaries’ on high rotation.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

#2751535, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:17 pm

It always annoys me when Gavrilo Princip is credited as being this towering historical figure of the 20th century. Nah he really wasn’t. What happened would have happened one way or another.

The archives of Kaiser Wilhelm’s Germany have been open to researchers since the mid 1960’s. The conclusions reached by the historians Fritz Fischer and Daniel Allen Butler were that Germany had decided on war as an instrument of foreign policy, and any pretext would do.
egg_

#2751536, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:19 pm

You could dismiss Sky (or sections of it) as some little niche community tv station broadcasting garbage to a minuscule, deranged minority

1. It’s Cable TV, not “Broadcasting”.
2. That’s a definition of “Narrowcasting*”.

*Narrowcasting is very much TheirABC’s market – they advocated for multi SD narrowcasting channels as opposed to any HD channels, as the best use of available bandwidth.
RobK

#2751539, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:22 pm

Gary,
I don’t get the connection
….when mere assertion will do as evidence.
Bruce of Newcastle

#2751544, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:31 pm

any pretext would do

So long as it was a pretext. I like this in the Agadir Crisis wiki:

On 1 July, the German gunboat SMS Panther arrived at the port of Agadir, under the pretext of protecting German trade interests. The larger Bremen-class cruiser SMS Berlin came days later, replacing the gunboat.[3] A German civilian, Hermann Wilberg, 110 kilometres (70 mi) to the north, journeyed south to be rescued only to arrive three days after Panther.[4]

Oops! No Iron Cross for Herr Wilberg… 😀
egg_

#2751545, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:33 pm

Shannon Molloy
@sleemol
This show is disgusting and the once-great channel that bothers broadcasting it should be ashamed.

Someone slurring SHY for a change, after what Bananaby and Vikki Campion copped.
Are the Left so deranged, they don’t recognise their own hypocrisy?
Mark from Melbourne

#2751546, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:35 pm

Thanks, Rafe — brilliant!

+ many.

Also, some interesting ‘wacky borders’ in the links.
Gary

#2751547, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:37 pm

Ok. But unless she had first hand experience and willingly acted as a honey trap like the leaders of that movement I wouldn’t go that far. However If was told of roomer about him and didn’t follow up then its a fare point.
Boambee John

#2751548, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:38 pm

egg

The fascist left do not understand the concept of hypocrisy.

For proof, see our own resident reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment, m0nty.
Oh come on

#2751550, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:39 pm

It is a pity the ABC isn’t funded by a licence fee in the manner of the BBC. Imagine all the fun we could have avoiding the ABC licence fee. It’d be pretty funny to see the ridiculous-looking ‘TV detector’ vans the dimwits at the ABC lash up. The BBC ones are bad enough.
egg_

#2751551, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:41 pm

what do you think about Brexit’s effect on the UK this week? No peeking at the financial ‘journals of record’ allowed.

Noticed UK comedians knocking Brexit on Mock the Week this week on ABC ‘Comedy’.
/Retarded
egg_

#2751553, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:44 pm

SHY has openly said she’s into one night stands – if NPH is included, it shouldn’t be Newsworthy.
egg_

#2751555, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:48 pm

For proof, see our own resident reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment, m0nty.

Yes, rather a disappointment, ‘fraid; unworthy of a doughnut, let alone a steak.
C.L

#2751556, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:48 pm

This just in from the ABC – which still employs Tom Ballard:
Hall sacking: Country football club decides to go ahead with paid speech despite on-air comments.

A country football club has still gone ahead with an event at which former AFL player Barry Hall was guest of honour, despite his vulgar on-air comments 24 hours earlier.
egg_

#2751557, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:50 pm

looking at the woman standing next to him one hopes it is Rowland.

His Missus is rather plain, seems a going thing at TheirABC.
min

#2751559, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:55 pm

Re Jordan Peterson,I did not open article as I was interested in taking grandson to a lecture when he is in Australia again . When looking for tickets he is booked up months ahead in USA, so rock bottom?
H B Bear

#2751560, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:55 pm

SHY has openly said she’s into one night stands – …

You know what they say, “Once you go SeaPatrol you never go back” or something.
C.L

#2751561, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:00 pm

Every week there are at least two new moral panics …
Here’s one of them:

Weight cutting: What is it and should it be regulated?.

It’s what jockeys and boxers have been doing for a hundred years.
Why is now a panic?

Mother says more fighters will lose lives

Last year, Perth teenager Jessica Lindsay died while preparing for a Thai boxing bout.

Her death is expected to be the subject of a coronial inquest.

Jessica’s mother Sharron Lindsay has warned more fighters will lose their lives if tighter rules are not established.

“She was still shadow-boxing, she was still talking, she was fatigued but she was still holding conversation and then she just collapsed,” Ms Lindsay said.

She wasn’t a “fighter.” She was a girl and shouldn’t have been pretending to be a boxer.
Rae

#2751562, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:02 pm

Michael Rowland and wife, Nicola Webber
egg_

#2751563, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:03 pm

Is the resident troll literally (smart) phoning it in?
Snoopy

#2751565, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:20 pm

Coroners are the enemy of liberty. There isn’t a death they investigate that couldn’t have been prevented by another law.
Makka

#2751566, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:24 pm

He makes the claim that Russia was not inferior in 1914, but they failed to exploit their superiority.

Russia had men and significant though not substantial arms. Their biggest problem was mobility. Poor railways, roads and lack of rail and road transport for heavy equipment . Plus the fact that since 1905/6 their Army was a hotbed of Bolshevism , since the Tzar nearly starved the nation to death during the famine of those years. In fact 1905/6 then was referred to as the failed Revolution.
cohenite

#2751568, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:36 pm

Probably the worst essay on Trump, noteworthy only because the Australian picked it up:

First Family’s mob morality
They have the morality of mobsters, the Trumps and their hangers-on.
By David Aaronovitch
From The Times,
June 30th, 2018
4 min read

Chapter four begins thus: “If fate placed Ivana Zelnickova in the little Czechoslovakian town of Zlin with her grandmother, the president of a shoe factory, and her stay-at-home grandfather, or her parents, an engineer and a telephone operator living in a two-storey government compound that amounted to nothing more than a concrete box, it was destiny that allowed her to rocket herself out of it and land in a glittering triplex atop Fifth Avenue in Manhattan three decades later.”

This terrible paragraph heralds the true beginning of Born Trump, after 80 trying pages of Trump election scene-setting. It finally sets us off on the path of wondering how his five children and his three wives and multitude of girlfriends have managed to live with (or, rather, occasionally in the vicinity of) a father, husband and lover such as Donald J. Trump.

The answer is depressingly obvious. Young Ivana, blonde and elegant, came to the US and found herself being wooed by some chap with a sense of entitlement the size of Africa. So what first attracted her to the preening multi-millionaire? “They’d only met a few times,” writes Emily Jane Fox, “but she was inching close to her 30s, and he was rich enough to pay for a first-class ticket to Aspen and a chalet during peak season, which for many women is the perfect shiny poison apple, impossible to resist.” And all she had to do to earn the chalet and the air ticket was to have sex with, marry, endure for years and bear the children of this man. It’s a no-brainer.

They married in 1977 and out of their union came Don Jr, Ivanka and Eric (there being no third parent to name the child after). Fox wisely delays the moment of attempting biographies of these people, who have essentially done nothing other than be their dad’s kids.

Because coming up is Marla Maples, “a god-fearing small-town Georgia peach” who somehow managed to wrangle her Christian conscience into allowing herself to be smuggled time and time again by her adulterous boyfriend into Ivana’s various beds when Ivana wasn’t there.

Eventually the two women ran into each other in a restaurant on the day before Don Jr’s 12th birthday and, in the presence of the children, had a loud fight. After which Ivana went into hiding to have extensive cosmetic surgery, emerging to get a divorce in 1992 and uncontested custody of the children.

Trump married Marla the next year, then she had Tiffany (or was it the other way round?), he cheated on her and she cheated on him and they divorced in 1999. Then came a line of almost identical women, none of whom ended up wed, which is a shame because one of them was the Norwegian heiress Celina Midelfart, and had that match come off we could have been talking about a series of little Trump-Midelfarts. That would have given us a laugh, which feels somehow necessary in these days when small children are in cages on the Mexican border.

Melania was in her 20s and a younger version of Ivana and Marla, so the much older Trump hit on her. She was a good-looking woman with a precarious economic position. They married in 2005, with a wedding resembling nothing so much as the opening scenes of The Godfather (except Vito Corleone is marrying Kay), where “Billy Joel, Paul Anka and Tony Bennett serenaded the crowd before the couple cut into the cake”.

It’s one of those weddings (and one of those books) where the cake alone requires 71 words of description.

Can we take the white Oscar de la Renta pant suits, the Balmain coats and the Manolo Blahniks, the ruche and the diamonds as read? Likewise the marble penthouses, private planes, yachts, helicopters, security men, mink teddy bears and Irish nannies? The rich will always be with us and they’ll usually be boring.

On to the children. We can dispose very quickly of 12-year-old Barron because even Fox, a Vanity Fair writer, can’t think of a single thing to say about him. She does, however, manage 25 pages on Marla’s daughter, Tiffany, who no one knows anything about and who has never done anything and has never harmed anyone.

Eric is said by anonymous friends to be quite nice, to have liked Lego, was nicknamed “Choad” at school (yet another slang word for penis, apparently) and aged six once had a row in kindergarten about putting his mat away. His elder brother, Donald Jr, was nearly not called Donald because his father worried that the baby might turn out to “be a loser”. He was a boorish drunk at college, then took up hunting, which gave his life meaning and purpose and safaris on which he could kill elephants and cheetahs. When questioned about this bloody hobby, Donald Jr replied that he was a hunter and he ate what he killed. Cheetah for dinner! Yum.

Only Ivanka resembles a person. Her mother would pull down her pants and spank her until the age of 10. Despite this, Ivanka grew up to be an intelligent and ambitious woman, a model and an entrepreneur of meretricious women’s items. Ivanka is cool and brand-conscious. And when she married she married another cool businessman, Jared Kushner, scion of another New York property family.

They had something in common. “Both,” writes Fox, “knew the truth about their fathers — a blowhard philanderer on one side and a brutalising convicted felon on the other.” Charles Kushner was sent to prison for hiring a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law and tape their encounter, then sending the tape to his cheated-upon sister, who was co-operating with a federal investigation into Kushner. Seriously. Jared, it is said, is close to his father. Ivanka campaigned hard for hers.

Unlike Fox, the younger Trumps didn’t have a choice in the matter. Fox could have decided not to write this depressing and pointless book, but they were saddled with Dad from the beginning. But did they have to root for him in public? They have the morality of mobsters, the Trumps and their hangers-on. There they all stand, this dynasty of latter-day Harry Limes, viewing the rest of us from the top of their Ferris wheels and seeing only ants. And we let them.

David Aaronovitch is a columnist for The Times and an author.

Born Trump: Inside America’s First Family

By Emily Jane Fox
HarperCollins, 336pp, $29.99
Snoopy

#2751571, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:47 pm

Foxes in the hen house.

Three immigration and civil judges are among nine people due to appear in court charged with an alleged £12.6 million bogus legal aid scam.
The charges follow a two-year review by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) into what they called a “big and complex” investigation by a Scotland Yard fraud team.

Part-time immigration judges Kareena Maciel, 46, and Rasib Ghaffar, 48, are charged with conspiracy to commit fraud, along with part-time civil judge Razi Shah, the Law Gazette reports.

The others charged are legal clerk Gazi Khan, 49, barrister Shahid Rashid, 57, and solicitors Joseph Ameyaw-Kyeremeh, 67, Azhar Khan, 46, Lloyd Moody, 48, and Samira Bashir, 46.

Lloyd must be llost.
Rae

#2751572, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:47 pm

Shy Ted.

Voyage of the Glaciers (Northbound) Watch the Video.

If you book, make sure it is the Northbound cruise that goes to both Glacier Bay and College Fiord. These are the most spectacular. All of the cruise is scenic. Take a good point-and-shoot digital camera so you can bring back plenty of memories.

It’s a long way to go, so book something else either side of the cruise. Before the cruise, maybe the Rocky Mountaineer Gold Leaf train ride + a couple of days in Vancouver with a day tour to Vancouver Island, the Butchart Gardens and the BC Capital, Victoria. Then, after the cruise, maybe a few days to Denali and/or a once-in-a-lifetime float plane to watch the bears catching salmon on the Brooks River in Katmai National Park.
cohenite

#2751573, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:48 pm

In other news watching Tony Curtis in the Son of Ali Baba, a prime candidate for worst movie of all time although it get’s incorrect press for Curtis saying:

Yondah lies da castle of my foddah.

In fact he said those memorable words in The Black Shield of Farnsworth, also a candidate for worst movie evah!

The finest endurance wrestlers in the middle east are however a hoot and once remained entwined for 7 weeks.
Leo G

#2751576, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:58 pm

“I stand by what I said. … You cannot be POTUS, hold rally after rally to attack reporters, calling them fake, disgusting/dishonest & not expect someone to think shooting them is ok.” – White House correspondent for the pro-Russia news outlet Sputnik, Andrew Feinberg

Does that mean a broadcast journalist who reports rally after rally so as to attack POTUS, calls him fake, disgusting/dishonest, is knowingly acting to convince someone that shooting him is OK?
mh

#2751577, posted on July 1, 2018 at 3:59 pm

Oh come on
#2751550, posted on July 1, 2018 at 2:39 pm
It is a pity the ABC isn’t funded by a licence fee in the manner of the BBC. Imagine all the fun we could have avoiding the ABC licence fee. It’d be pretty funny to see the ridiculous-looking ‘TV detector’ vans the dimwits at the ABC lash up. The BBC ones are bad enough.

You made me go looking for a movie scene:
Tony @55m 18s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-qP3aJYPhp4
John Comnenus

#2751578, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:00 pm

Thank god series 2 of the wine show is back on Foxtel.
C.L

#2751579, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:07 pm

In fact he said those memorable words in The Black Shield of Farnsworth, also a candidate for worst movie evah!

The “Yondah lies da castle of my foddah” quote is apocryphal.
Curtis never said it in any movie.
John Constantine

#2751580, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm

Reporters cannot be fake, disgusting and dishonest and then think someone calling them out for it is not okay?.
.

#2751583, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:15 pm

Ms Clubb’s fight is very important.

She will probably lose: it would, however, be very interesting to see her legal argument.

I am tipping a heavy reliance not only on the Victorian charter but the ICCPR and also Lange, Australian Capital Television, etc.

I really hope she wins; the confirmation that we do not have free speech, even protected political speech would be absolutely horrendous.

It would not be a hysterical or overblown claim to say that we’d be at the start of the death of liberal democracy as we know it.
John Constantine

#2751584, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:23 pm

Here is something their media solidly refused to report, the refusal to acknowledge the truth may have long term consequences.

It has been anecdotal for some time that the reason for newcomers to Australia refusing to live out in rural areas isn’t racism, or only the ‘Big Sky Country’ isolation and being cut off from crowds, but the emptiness and the weather patterns that you are immersed in and can’t cut off like you can with urban living make them sick.

Psychosomatic is assumed. as nobody ever examined it, because it was racist to assume that all consumption units are equal and interchangeable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5903857/Previously-healthy-migrants-visitors-allergic-Australia-medical-mystery.html

“‘People of Asian background coming to Australia, a very typical pattern is the first five years they are OK, between five and 10 years they start getting hayfever, and then they develop wheezing and asthma,’ asthma specialist Professor Francis Thien told The Age. ”

Got friends that have to be diligent in managing the humidity of their nostrils, otherwise the unique Australian combination of low air moisture, ryegrass pollen so prolific it is like a mist drifting across the landscape, relentless wattle pollen six months a year and the never ending flies and dust does make breathing through a crusty pinhole intolerable.

So the next big push is to dump vast imported welfareherds out in vote plantations right in the middle of the great dry Australian fly/wattle/ryegrass dustbowl.

The South Africans can cope, but the rest just WANT to be jammed higher and tighter into vast urban crowdstacks.
John Constantine

#2751585, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:25 pm

https://au.news.yahoo.com/mystery-illness-killed-migrants-australia-024856509.html
cohenite

#2751586, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:25 pm

Does that mean a broadcast journalist who reports rally after rally so as to attack POTUS, calls him fake, disgusting/dishonest, is knowingly acting to convince someone that shooting him is OK?

The left grubs are experts at creating equivalence where none exists. Prominent people in the media have actually stated Trump should be killed. Trump hasn’t called for anyone to be killed but legitimately pointed out the stinking bias of the media. You can’t tell the difference can you grub.
Chris

#2751589, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:29 pm

It would not be a hysterical or overblown claim to say that we’d be at the start of the death of liberal democracy as we know it.

In this time of hysterical and overblown claims, it doesn’t stand out at all. Nevertheless dot, I call bullshit on the claim that that claim of yours is not hysterical or overblown.

I remember graffiti in the UWA Guild building, 1979: ‘China in Vietnam, the beginning of the end.’ The Vietnamese kicked their imperialist asses out of their country and the world came to a screeeeching – oh.
cohenite

#2751590, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:30 pm

The “Yondah lies da castle of my foddah” quote is apocryphal.
Curtis never said it in any movie.

Yeah I heard that too. The Medveds are adamant he said it. I suggest someone watch every Tony Curtis movie to make sure.

My point is if he did say it, that’s how he would have said it and it would have added immensely to the film he said it in.
.

#2751594, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:43 pm

Chris if cases like Lange and Australian Capital Television are overturned, not only do you have no explicit right to free speech in Australia, you will no longer have even protected political speech and the ICCPR will be (probably implicitly) overturned.

Remember too that the Commonwealth has power over “communications” and the States otherwise have plenary powers which are a rare instance where the High Court refuses to become interstitial legislators and limit those powers.

It would be more correct to say it is more likely the Court will consider the political speech cases as “irrelevant” and declare that the Victorian law ought to stand (in the decision [ratio]) but we also have free speech (in an offhand comment [dicta]). It will make the downright silliness of Cole v Whitfield look like a mere look into an alternate reality.

The men who drafted our Federal constitution were lawyers, judges and MPs who reckoned like Dicey that we did not need an explicit bill of rights, we could trust Parliament.

I can forgive Dicey, he was only an academic lawyer and did not practice, nor was he an MP or judge.

What we have to remember is that abortion is technically illegal in most of Australia, and we are seeing people banned from trying to convince people not to get one. On top of that, the highest court of the land will likely declare that we have free political speech, but not in the aforesaid instance. That is such a folly that I no longer have any regret about being quite open about wanting to live away from most of society. Either they suffer under such Kafkaesque rules or they cannot stop themselves from voting for this non-stop crapfest.
Delta A

#2751595, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:44 pm

So the next big push is to dump vast imported welfareherds out in vote plantations right in the middle of the great dry Australian fly/wattle/ryegrass dustbowl.

Six of the 10 deaths were people with Asian backgrounds. Rintoul will be onto this as we speak, rounding up claimants for big Aussie compensation dollars.
None

#2751597, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:51 pm

Rowan Dean tore down ABC weatherman on The Outsiders today.
mh

#2751598, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:52 pm

FBI embarrassment James Comey took his treason tour to Ireland, claiming he was so ashamed of current U.S. immigration policies that he considered telling Irish customs officials he was Canadian when he arrived.

https://www.infowars.com/video-top-fbi-embarrassment-does-it-again/
egg_

#2751599, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:53 pm

Six of the 10 deaths were people with Asian backgrounds.

Local MSG overload?
Try the Ching Chong Burger.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751601, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:58 pm

Talking of the odious Rintoul. Things seem to be stirring in Iran. You would think he’d be advising his Persian clients to go home and grasp at the chance to make history. Particularly, that whining Bertuchi(?) chappie, the Nauru chronicler. He could keep us up to date on the wobbly Rial and its side effects.
Infidel Tiger

#2751603, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:01 pm

The Incredibles 2 is… incredible.

Stylistically it is one of the most beautiful movies you will see too. The mid century modern home is to die for.
Snoopy

#2751605, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm

The Incredibles 2 is… incredible.

Did you take the kids?
Anne

#2751607, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:08 pm

Looks like Trey Gowdy is NOT a contender.

From QAnon:

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H B Bear

#2751611, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:12 pm

The men who drafted our Federal constitution were lawyers, judges and MPs who reckoned like Dicey that we did not need an explicit bill of rights, we could trust Parliament.

The framers of the Constitution at the turn of the century would not have contemplated the complete intrusion of government and statute law into the life of modern citizens.
Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

#2751612, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:16 pm

Asda rations fizzy drinks after shoppers panic buy stocks as CO2 crisis threatens beer, cider, fresh meat and salad
cohenite

#2751613, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:19 pm

.

#2751594, posted on July 1, 2018 at 4:43 pm

Chris if cases like Lange and Australian Capital Television are overturned, not only do you have no explicit right to free speech in Australia, you will no longer have even protected political speech and the ICCPR will be (probably implicitly) overturned.

Freedom of speech is a lonely thing in Australia. The cases have established it is only an implied freedom which is subject to any limitation of any legislation which is consistent with the constitution. The implied freedom is also construed as merely an adjunct of the right to vote and participate in the electoral process. That being the case if the mother/complainant is a member of a political party which has as part of its election platform an anti-abortion policy she would have more chance in the HC.
JC

#2751614, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:21 pm

The US is a nation obsessed with statistics. Just an observation, not saying if it’s good or bad… more good thing though.

I was searching for US oil production stats. Those fuckers have oil production broken down monthly since 1920!
Infidel Tiger

#2751615, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:24 pm

The Incredibles 2 is… incredible.

Did you take the kids?

Of course.

It’s a very adult film though.
Chris

#2751617, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:27 pm

Freedom of speech is a lonely thing in Australia. The cases have established it is only an implied freedom which is subject to any limitation of any legislation which is consistent with the constitution. The implied freedom is also construed as merely an adjunct of the right to vote and participate in the electoral process.

So that defamatory fvck John Crook got the privilege of an over-reach in court decision for his freedom of speech against the SSAA, and then they cranked that right back when someone tried to use it as precedent later?
amortiser

#2751618, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:28 pm

The pound fell on the day of the vote, which means the markets saw Brexit as a big UK negative. Carney’s actions were much later, when the BOE was responding to forecasts of reduced economic activity. I don’t recall, but if the pound subsequently fell as a result of BOE signalling, I don’t see how the argument that the UK economy was threatened by a no vote is imperiled.

I was in London for the US election count. As the night progressed the DOW began to plummet from when Florida looked like it was going to Trump. It dropped 200 points, then 400, then 600 then 800 as democrat states fell. The pundits commented this was foreign markets giving their verdict on a possible Trump victory.

When Wall Street opened next morning, the Dow opened 200 points on the previous day’s closing. Would JC call this a rapid change in sentiment?
JC

#2751619, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:30 pm

If there was a referendum on free speech being constitutionally enshrined, I wonder how Australian voters would vote. I reckon it may not get through.
John Constantine

#2751620, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:31 pm

https://dailyenergyinsider.com/news/13326-senate-advances-1-2-billion-appropriations-bill-for-nuclear-energy/

Just tell their Australian left that their Hussein obamanauts and Clinton crime cartel orcs are backing Trumps nuclear program.

” In a bipartisan show of support for the nuclear industry, the U.S. Senate voted 86-5 this week to advance a $1.2 billion appropriations bill to cover the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) nuclear energy programs for 2019.”

Sadly, it seems SLX silex will keep slip sliding away with its reprocessing technology, [ mind you if it was the answer, the chicoms would have stolen it by now.

https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180612/pdf/43vppl4n9pmkgr.pdf

The USA DOE tailings stockpiles are potentially the worlds highest grade uranium mine, one day they will be unlocked like shale gas was unlocked, but it doesn’t need to be anytime soon,
Makka

#2751621, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:33 pm

Trump is on safe ground. The leftscum and their media as usual try to fabricate a majority opposition when in fact near 2/3rds support Trump. Note- this is a leftist pollster;

The new survey is a Harvard-Harris poll, by former Clinton pollster and strategist Mark Penn. It was conducted June 24-25, with 1,448 registered voters.

On the issue of separations, Penn began with a threshold question: “Do you think that people who make it across our border illegally should be allowed to stay in the country or sent home? Sixty-four percent (83 percent of Republicans, 47 percent of Democrats, and 66 percent of independents) said they should be sent home. Thirty-six percent said they should be allowed to stay.
John Constantine

#2751622, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:38 pm

Just for Struth is this page for Australian Hi-Vis onesies.

http://www.cutiesbyzootys.com.au/product-category/hi-viz/

How long until our benevolent overlords of their turnbull election winning machine do a focus group poll to discover it is a votewinner to hand out thermal onesies to all Australian pensioners, so they can dress in these wearable beds to get around the house without freezing in our long dark ruinables de-electrified shivertopia.

Free Onesies, Comrades.
Snoopy

#2751623, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:40 pm

If Australia inserted a free speech clause into the Constitution it would have a ‘but’ in it.
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751624, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:41 pm

Of course.
It’s a very adult film though.

Explain why the wife was not at home raising her own baby in a logical fashion rather than gallivanting about the countryside in a motorcycle.
Go!
Infidel Tiger

#2751626, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:45 pm

Historically women have always worked while the man slothed about until needed to save the day or kill the Sabre tooth.
Dave in Marybrook

#2751627, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:47 pm

No sleep for the 8 y.o. Marybrook kid following Incredibles 2- tho the 6 seems fine.
So attend with caution.
JC

#2751628, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:50 pm

Amortier.
Go check the open forum that day and the days before. I said my strategy at the time wasn’t to predict the election result ahead of time. Uncle George tried that and had his shriveled balls handed to him. I was with the polls, in that not having an edge I accepted what they suggested – Crooked would win. Some people here think that by having this view, it meant I was supporting Crooked. That’s laughably ridiculous.
Anyway back to the strategy. I said there was time to make money after the election result.

If crooked won , fade the rally as she was poison to stocks. I would have shorted in during the week if she won.
If Trump won buy the dip as he appeared to be pro-commerce. That dip came very early 🙂

I bought the dips in the Asian futures the on election day when the market was trading around 700 points down. I bought so much I felt like I was 9 months pregnant and going into labor. That same evening I sold the futures and swapped in US bank stocks of an equivalent size.

It’s not a boast but I made so much money in the 16 months with the Trump trade that in some ways it financially changed my life even more :- It’s harder now though and I’m taking it easy.

Would JC call this a rapid change in sentiment?

Asia panicked like a bunch of big marys. The realization began to set in as the US open approached that the orange fuck was actually great for stocks.

You may only get one Trump trade in your life.
Makka

#2751629, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:51 pm

If only we had politicians like this Hungarian FM.

Politely and effectively he takes down this BBC SJW.

“We want to keep Hungary a Hungarian country and we don’t think multiculturalism by definition is good”

Clear, concise and unapologetic.
JC

#2751630, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:52 pm

Historically women have always worked while the man slothed about until needed to save the day or kill the Sabre tooth.

Yea, foraging and bullshit stuff like that. Hunting though, was man work. Slothing around is good.
Sinclair Davidson

#2751631, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:56 pm

See the Bombers fly up.
JC

#2751632, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:57 pm

47 percent of Democrats……..said they should be sent home.

That’s not great you know. A minority of the D’rats support the policy. Moreover, we don’t know how strong the motivation is. It’s actually shocking when you think about it. They don’t give a shit about the southern border and I bet a large number a disposed to the movement because it helps future D’rat voting trajectory.
Infidel Tiger

#2751633, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:58 pm

Good game of foozball
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751634, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:58 pm

Yes yes it’s only cartoons.
Parents, there’s no agenda, no politics, it’s just moving pictures to entertain the kids.
Nothing to see here, move along!!!!
cohenite

#2751636, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:03 pm

So that defamatory fvck John Crook got the privilege of an over-reach in court decision for his freedom of speech against the SSAA, and then they cranked that right back when someone tried to use it as precedent later?

Didn’t he apologise after the Judge described him as a loon?
Infidel Tiger

#2751637, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:04 pm

The left hate The Incredibles because of its conservative and Randian sub plots.

The Mum has sweet arse too.
BorisG

#2751638, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:05 pm

Sinc commenting on open thread – is that first ?
Makka

#2751639, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:05 pm

They don’t give a shit about the southern border and I bet a large number a disposed to the movement because it helps future D’rat voting trajectory.

I think that is exactly the strategy Trump is using to ensure the GOP get out the vote. Polls are one thing but getting supporters to the voting booth another. Trump is trying to scare the crap out of Republicans and Dems alike about what the Dems in power would do to their country. Essentially, the Dems will invite a Latin invasion.
BorisG

#2751640, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:08 pm

Trump is trying to scare the crap out of Republicans and Dems alike about what the Dems in power would do to their country

Yes. We will see if this works by watching the turnout, which should be much larger than in other midterm elections. On both sides. His policy should mobilize his supporters and opponents alike. Which one will be stronger remains to be seen.
DrBeauGan

#2751641, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:10 pm

Stimpson J. Cat
#2751634, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:58 pm
Yes yes it’s only cartoons.
Parents, there’s no agenda, no politics, it’s just moving pictures to entertain the kids.
Nothing to see here, move along!!!!

That, apparently, makes you a pearl-clutching homophobe, Stimpy.

Gay people, we aren’t afraid of you, we just think you’ve got your wires crossed. We see you trying to confuse kids and feel sorry for your need to convince yourselves your normal, when it should be obvious that if you were normal, the human species would have become extinct long ago.
DrBeauGan

#2751643, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:12 pm

Your -> you’re
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751644, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:13 pm

Sinc commenting on open thread – is that first ?

It’s as rare as a Bombers win.
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751646, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm

The left hate The Incredibles because of its conservative and Randian sub plots.
The Mum has sweet arse too.

Remember, in The Incredibles Gayzer Beam died alone and childless in a cave.

I think there’s something in that for all of us.
DrBeauGan

#2751647, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm

BorisG
#2751640, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:08 pm
Trump is trying to scare the crap out of Republicans and Dems alike about what the Dems in power would do to their country

Yes. We will see if this works by watching the turnout, which should be much larger than in other midterm elections. On both sides. His policy should mobilize his supporters and opponents alike. Which one will be stronger remains to be seen.

So it’s going to be a dispute between those who want to turn the US into Mexico and those who think this is a bad idea.
Confused Old Misfit

#2751648, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm

Snoopy
#2751623, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:40 pm
If Australia inserted a free speech clause into the Constitution it would have a ‘but’ in it.

Yeah, like the infamous “notwithstanding” clause in the Canadian “Bill of Rights”.
Makka

#2751649, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm

We see you trying to confuse kids and feel sorry for your need to convince yourselves your normal,

I stopped feeling sorry for them a very long time ago. When the LGBTQI crowd began their attacks on freedom of religious expression and commenced their strategy of grooming kids for their deviant lifestyle through our education system. Fk em, I now consider them an enemy within our community.
johanna

#2751650, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:17 pm

Bring on electronic voting, we are constantly being told by our betters in government. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-01/data-breach-for-tasmsanian-voters/9928848

Sorry, format buttons have disappeared, but part of the article says:

The personal information of thousands of Tasmanians has been leaked, the Tasmanian Electoral Commission (TEC) says.

TEC was yesterday told by the Spanish company Typeform that an unknown third party had accessed its servers and downloaded information.

Tasmanian Electoral Commissioner Andrew Hawkey said the electors were those who had applied for express votes at the recent state and Upper House elections.

“We’ve been informed that it includes the name, date of birth, email address and enrolment address of all the electors that applied for an express vote at the 2018 Legislative Council and state elections,” he said.

“We don’t have a figure as to exactly how many that is, we think it’s probably in the vicinity of 4,000 electors.”

The breach was identified by Typeform on Wednesday, and the company found that data collected through five forms on the TEC website had been taken.
_________________________________________________________

Yup, let’s extend that concept right across all elections.

On another note, I have discovered a veritable goldmine of good stuff on youtube for fans of crime and suspense. It goes under the name of Kraft Suspense Theatre, which was an American show in the early 1960s. There are dozens of episodes, each a one-off, and some of it is very good indeed. They snaffled some well known actors like Jack Klugman, Tippi Hedren, Jack Lord etc, who must have been attracted by the quality of the scripts and production. The one I am currently watching, Name of the Game, was directed by Sydney Pollack!

Sound and vision is sometimes dodgy, but for fans of the genre, well worth checking out.
Makka

#2751651, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:19 pm

So it’s going to be a dispute between those who want to turn the US into Mexico and those who think this is a bad idea.

Watch the upcoming Mexican elections. If the Socialist nutter gets in the US southern border could eventually become a warzone.
calli

#2751655, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:26 pm

The Incredibles 2 is… incredible.

My favourite.

Based on the fabulous Edith Head.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751656, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:26 pm

If the Socialist nutter gets in the US southern border could eventually become a warzone.

Ditto a Narco-nutter, who could be disguised in political cloth of many shades.
urb

#2751659, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:27 pm

KAP membership is only $11 a year. should i pump my hard earned into this or get some extra multi use woolies logo bags to keep in the boot? leaning towards the KAP membership
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751660, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:29 pm

Fascinating article on Blood Libel by The Krug. Articles like this are exactly why people dislike J$ws.
Just breathtaking arrogance.
Everyone against immigration is Nazi now.
stackja

#2751661, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:31 pm

Bill Shorten pledges $6b to build new rail lines for Western Sydney
Clarissa Bye, The Daily Telegraph
July 1, 2018 12:02pm
Subscriber only

OPPOSITION Leader Bill Shorten has pledged a Labor Government would spend $6 billion building major new rail lines for Western Sydney, including extending the South West rail link to the second Sydney airport.

In a speech to the State ALP Conference, Mr Shorten promised the massive injection of funds to boost the city’s congested rail lines, including a new connection from Macarthur in the south to St Marys in the north.

ALP earlier:

Gillard promises rail link for Western Sydney – ABC News (Australian …
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-08-11/gillard-promises-rail-link-for…sydney/2672516
Aug 11, 2010 – Prime Minister Julia Gillard with the NSW Premier at her side today promised to build a rail link in Sydney’s western suburbs – where both sides …

Then:

Julia Gillard shelves $2b west Sydney rail link – report | Herald Sun
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/…/gillard…sydney-rail…/story-fnii5s3y-1226652677523?…
May 28, 2013 – Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced the funding for the rail line just 10 days before the 2010 federal election, in an announcement that was …
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751662, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:32 pm

Your Comment Awaiting Moderation for posting a link to a New York Times Article on Bl$$d L$bel by Paul Krugman.

The utter f$cking hilarity.
Snoopy

#2751663, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:33 pm

Channel Nein’s Robert Penfold is a lying liar. I suspect he’s auditioning for a lifetime sinecure at TheirABC.
H B Bear

#2751664, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:33 pm

Do Tasmanians get one vote per head?
H B Bear

#2751665, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:34 pm

Channel Nein’s Robert Penfold is a lying liar. I suspect he’s auditioning for a lifetime sinecure at TheirABC.

They all are. Journo-Lotto means a job for life.
stackja

#2751667, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:38 pm

Makka
#2751651, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:19 pm
So it’s going to be a dispute between those who want to turn the US into Mexico and those who think this is a bad idea.

Watch the upcoming Mexican elections. If the Socialist nutter gets in the US southern border could eventually become a warzone.

Polk, Lincoln, Wilson had border forces.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751668, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:38 pm

Do Tasmanians get one vote per head?

A neighbour is buying worms from Tasmania for fishing. He said they work better than the local annelids.
I refrained from stating the obvious.
.

#2751672, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:43 pm

I promise a new beach, a *nickel refinery* a ski resort and a world-class IT and shipbuilding mega development partnered with industry at Penrith.

We owe it to ourselves.

Hence, if you care about your children, elect me.
mizaris

#2751673, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:45 pm

The “Yondah lies da castle of my foddah” quote is apocryphal.
Curtis never said it in any movie.

In “The Son of Ali Baba” (1952) he says “This is my father’s palace, and yonder lies the Valley of the Sun” Someone later got carried away with mocking Curtis’ Bronx accent.
calli

#2751675, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:48 pm

Well, Shy Ted. You’ve had some cruise reviews. Whose review suits your taste?:

Calli, Rae, Lizzie or

Rose?

😃
BorisG

#2751676, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:49 pm

So it’s going to be a dispute between those who want to turn the US into Mexico and those who think this is a bad idea.

you can say that, yes.
Snoopy

#2751677, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:49 pm

Democrats cunning plan to stack SCOTUS. Create another SIX positions!

Imagine the howls of rage if Trump gets in first when the Blue Wave proves to be an ebb tide.
Rae

#2751679, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:51 pm

Watch the upcoming Mexican elections … the US southern border could eventually become a warzone.

Polk, Lincoln, Wilson had border forces.

Will Grant return for the new Battle of Molino del Rey?
BorisG

#2751680, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:51 pm

If only we had politicians like this Hungarian FM.

We have Pauline.
C.L

#2751681, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:51 pm

“You cannot be POTUS, hold rally after rally to attack reporters, calling them fake, disgusting/dishonest & not expect someone to think shooting them is ok.”

And?
Chris

#2751683, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:52 pm

Imagine the howls of rage if Trump gets in first when the Blue Wave proves to be an ebb tide.

Elections have consequences. Punch back twice as hard.
C.L

#2751684, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:53 pm

I suggest someone watch every Tony Curtis movie to make sure.

Who do we want to torture?
C.L

#2751686, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:54 pm

One of my favourites is John Wayne’s “Truly, this man was the Son of Gard.”

Fact check status: true.
Snoopy

#2751687, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:54 pm

I promise a new beach, a *nickel refinery* a ski resort and a world-class IT and shipbuilding mega development partnered with industry at Penrith.

‘Ski Mount Bartle Frere’ has a nice ring to it.
BorisG

#2751690, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:56 pm

That is pretty much the conclusion of the last 100 years of scholarship on the subject.

Proves my point. The JPost article is self explanatory.

Aleast today courts don’t sentence people to be burned alive. Nor they prosecute people just for being J-e-ws.
dover_beach

#2751691, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:00 pm

Proves my point. The JPost article is self explanatory.

What point? So far as the article was concerned it appeared like the sort of breathless clickbait typical of the DM.
Chris

#2751692, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:00 pm

“You cannot be POTUS, hold rally after rally to attack reporters, calling them fake, disgusting/dishonest & not expect someone to think shooting them is ok.”
C.L.: And?

While I must deplore shooting the media per se, they called for and modelled the murder of the Orange One. Shooting is much too good for leftists. Depriving them of civil rights and selling them to Putin for medical experimentation would be more the thing. Freezing them in Carbonite would be poor form, they would probably pop free and start evil-monologuing at some inconvenient time, like just before you feed them to the Bantha.
.

#2751693, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:01 pm

Grigory,

Where do I hide a barrel of chlorinated lime during a cruise?

Asking for a friend.
calli

#2751694, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:01 pm

Psalm 23 was posted up thread.

The Lord is my Shepherd. And his sheepdogs are Goodness and Mercy who follow me all the days of my life.

I imagine Goodness as a rough and tumble blue heeler. Mercy is, of course, a beautiful, lustrous border collie.
Chris

#2751696, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:04 pm

I suggest someone watch every Tony Curtis movie to make sure.

Who do we want to torture?

I propose Googles ALPBC be forced to watch them, then play them for the Saturday Night pommy cop show hour to pay out those fiends hogging my 16 cents a day.
Chris

#2751699, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:06 pm

Grigory,

Where do I hide a barrel of chlorinated lime during a cruise?

Asking for a friend.

You can never have too many friends.
C.L

#2751701, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:09 pm

My “And?” was facetious, obviously.
Having said that, journalists ceaselessly lie and ceaselessly excuse violence against the enemies of leftism – most recently inciting a Democrat shooter to attempt the largest assassination of congressmen in US history. Steve Scalise is lucky to be alive. They are total scum and Trump describes them accurately as “the enemies of the people.” That is exactly what they are.
Gab

#2751703, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:11 pm

One of my favourites is John Wayne’s “Truly, this man was the Son of Gard.”

Fact check status: true.

Love it!
Stimpson J. Cat

#2751705, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:12 pm

Nor they prosecute people just for being J-e-ws.

But they do prosecute people for disputing certain elements of history, don’t they BorisG?
In many countries.
Whose idea was that again, remind me.
Was it Communists or Nazis who came up with such draconian laws to police people’s very beliefs?
.

#2751706, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:12 pm

Having said that, journalists ceaselessly lie and ceaselessly excuse violence against the enemies of leftism – most recently inciting a Democrat shooter to attempt the largest assassination of congressmen in US history. Steve Scalise is lucky to be alive. They are total scum and Trump describes them accurately as “the enemies of the people.” That is exactly what they are.

This is just impossible to disagree with.
C.L

#2751707, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:14 pm

Speaking of doggies, Calli, I love this dramatisation of that story in the news a few weeks ago about two parents who used baby-cam to discover how their toddler daughter was escaping from her room every night.
Farmer Gez

#2751708, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:15 pm

Channel Nein’s Robert Penfold is a lying liar. I suspect he’s auditioning for a lifetime sinecure at TheirABC.

I couldn’t remember who he was, so a quick Google search.
Bingo! Robert Penfold: “Why I love Michelle Obama”.
Probably had his Che Guevara undies on when he did that piece.
Baldrick

#2751709, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:16 pm

calli
#2751675, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:48 pm
Well, Shy Ted. You’ve had some cruise reviews. Whose review suits your taste?:
Calli, Rae, Lizzie or Rose?

What was wrong with my suggestion?

Baldrick
#2751213, posted on July 1, 2018 at 12:21 am
Just book yourself into the Bankstown Sports Club for 7 days. It’s open 24/7.
Some of the main features of Bankstown Sports Club include a movie theatre, live shows, weekly entertainment, a wide variety of restaurants and bars and accommodation.
Same as a cruise, without the sea sickness. Oh and parking is free.
calli

#2751713, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:23 pm

Lol. No fjords, Balders. Or cobblestones.

The rest sounds okay.
calli

#2751714, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:25 pm

I bet you can get cheap Wifi too. And plonk. Cunard’s prices are ruinous.
H B Bear

#2751716, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:28 pm

Lucky Freo signed Ross Lyon up before the other teams could snap him up. Now they just need to run a couple of years off the contract before they can pay him out.
Farmer Gez

#2751717, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:32 pm

One of my favourites is John Wayne’s “Truly, this man was the Son of Gard.”

From The Greatest Story Ever Told. An absolute stinker that lost a bundle in an attempt to cash in on the success of King of Kings, featuring our own Frank Thring, which doubled its money.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

#2751718, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:35 pm

Some of the main features of Bankstown Sports Club include a movie theatre, live shows, weekly entertainment, a wide variety of restaurants and bars and accommodatio

Quite a fair description of the big cruise liners – it’s why the Memsahib and I prefer small ship cruising these days.
stackja

#2751719, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:36 pm

Farmer Gez
#2751717, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:32 pm

The Greatest Story Ever Told is a 1965 American epic film produced and directed by George Stevens.

GS earlier made Giant.
stackja

#2751721, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:41 pm

Logies 2018: Gold Logie winners over the years
Staff Writer, News Corp Australia Network
9 minutes ago
Subscriber only

SAMUEL JOHNSON, 2017
WALEED ALY, 2016
CARRIE BICKMORE, 2015
calli

#2751723, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:42 pm

I just Wiki’d TGSET. Playboy panned it. And the NY Magazine. Nominated for 5 Academy Awards. Won none.

I preferred Lew Grade’s Jesus of Nazareth.
Farmer Gez

#2751724, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:43 pm

GS earlier made Giant.

The only thing he could have done worse than casting Heston and Wayne, would be Jimmy Dean as Jesus.
Dean was dead by then, but who knows?
Mater

#2751725, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:49 pm

Some of the main features of Bankstown Sports Club include a movie theatre, live shows, weekly entertainment, a wide variety of restaurants and bars and accommodation.

And that ‘Middle Eastern’ vibe!
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

#2751727, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:51 pm

Are you “Red” enough for today’s Labor Party?

Q: What is aspiration?

A: The desire to better yourself, to achieve financial security, to be self-funded and independent through the ownership of capital and assets, to have the freedom to spend time doing what you want, perhaps to live in a nice house, drive a luxury car, have beautiful things, go on five-star holidays.

B: The desire to be totally up yourself. To be greedy, selfish and uncaring, to not be happy with your lot in life, which is to depend on government welfare or live on wages of less than $75,000 a year.

Q: Who does Labor stand for?

A: It stands for the rights of unions and union-owned super funds and other union-owned entities, and serves to legislatively guard its core activity of harvesting income from sections of the business sector, income that is the lifeblood of the ALP.

B: It stands for people who are not greedy, selfish, up-themselves tax dodgers, not for the “big end of town” but for the “battlers” — meaning people who earn less than $75,000 a year.

Q: What is the main purpose of a business?

A: A business exists, primarily, to make a profit for its owners.

B: A business exists, primarily, to provide an income stream to unions and union-owned entities through enterprise agreements and other side deals.

Q: A business earns $100 million a year but it has expenses of $99m a year. What figure does it pay tax on?

A: A business pays tax on its profit, which in this case is $1m.

B: For a start, businesses don’t even pay tax, which is the whole problem in this country. This tax-dodging, economy-destroying business — which is probably run by rich white men who wear top hats — should be paying $100m in tax a year, at least. But more important, does this business have enterprise agreements that provide income to unions? If not, then make a note to tell the relevant employer group to hurry up and railroad it into some.

Q: Anthony Albanese says that businesses and unions can work together. What does this actually look like in practical terms to an individual business?

A: The unions relevant to the business serve the business with a document called an enterprise agreement. At the urging of someone from an employer group, someone in the business signs this agreement. Then the business must put all its employees’ superannuation into the union-owned fund, purchase income protection insurance from a union-owned insurer, buy training packages from a union-owned training business and force the employees into union membership. The employer group receives a small kickback for its part in railroading the business into the agreement. (If you are going to keep lapdogs, you must throw them a bone every now and then.)

B: It means the business provides good, permanent secure jobs on high wages. Importantly, people from the business sit down around the table regularly with union officials, who can offer a good relationship, train staff in safety and other skills, and impart helpful tips on how to make the business more successful.

Part of a long, and very witty article by Grace Collier in today’s Oz.
Cpt Seahawks

#2751728, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:54 pm

CbboFOtcZs
1973815
>>1973737
It will not be Gowdy.
Q

Q = QEII

ThAt would be amusing.
Leigh Lowe

#2751729, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:54 pm

Infidel Tiger

#2751633, posted on July 1, 2018 at 5:58 pm

Good game of foozball

I assume you mean North vs Essendon.
Take a risk.
If you execute properly it comes off.
If not, you get punished.
Worth paying to see.
Leigh Lowe

#2751730, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:55 pm

stackja

#2751721, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:41 pm

Logies 2018: Gold Logie winners over the years
Staff Writer, News Corp Australia Network
9 minutes ago
Subscriber only

SAMUEL JOHNSON, 2017
WALEED ALY, 2016
CARRIE BICKMORE, 2015

Australian of The Year type field.
stackja

#2751731, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:57 pm

Farmer Gez
#2751724, posted on July 1, 2018 at 7:43 pm

Hollywood producers miscast many times.
stackja

#2751736, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:02 pm

Daily Telegraph blurry ad says PM must flick switch on electricity prices. The flick looks like f ck.
stackja

#2751737, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm

2GB sound bite from Logies ‘joke’ about BJ interview. Of course, audience laughed.
Shy Ted

#2751738, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:04 pm

YEs, thanks for the cruise tips. Think I’ll do this one.
Or possibly Alaska. Only a few days to choose. Damned anniversaries!
Leigh Lowe

#2751739, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:05 pm

Stimpson J. Cat

#2751644, posted on July 1, 2018 at 6:13 pm

Sinc commenting on open thread – is that first ?

It’s as rare as a Bombers win.

Keep up Stimp.
They’ve won 5 out of 6, only losing to the Tigers.
On.
A.
Roll.
Leigh Lowe

#2751741, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:08 pm

Ted.
There are small island hopping cruises around Greece and Croatia.
When I say small, I mean 30 – 50 passengers and often only 7 – 10 days.
Good way to put a toe in the water so to speak.
stackja

#2751742, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:16 pm

Piers Akerman: Customers in revolt over big bad bag ban
PIERS AKERMAN, The Sunday Telegraph
July 1, 2018 12:00am
Subscriber only

Woolworths thoughtlessly introduced a ban on plastic bags in the vain hope that it would please their inner-city customers obsessed with carbon footprints and organically-grown steel-cut quinoa sourced from members of fair-trade co-operatives. In pandering to the noisy and the attention-seeking they forgot the majority of their shoppers don’t like publicity and rarely crave the limelight. They just want to get on with their lives and not only do they like the convenience of plastic bags but they have creatively discovered multiple uses for the bags once they’ve handily conveyed their groceries to the kitchen.

The bags are an indispensable adjunct to modern living.

Not only that though, the suggested alternate of reusable bags was met with hostility from grocery staff, at least one of whom has received a needle-stick injury, and from health officials concerned that customers’ bags could contaminate foodstuffs with nasties festering in their dark, dank folds if placed near the meat and fresh goods counters.

According to one union official, mice, cockroaches, needles, razor blades, dentures and dirty nappies have been found by supermarket check-out workers in reusable shopping bags and there are OHS worries about the weight of the bags workers may have to lift after packing.

The prospect of customers being permitted to bring their own possibly unsterilised plastic containers and use them to convey uncooked meat home is so fraught with the possibility of litigation from consumers that ambulance-chasing lawyers are already salivating.
max

#2751743, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:17 pm

Essendon v North Melbourne this afternoon.

Three quarter time break.

Normal people go for a pee, grab a beer, swap opinions about the game, stand up and stretch legs etc.

ABC radio: ‘We can’t get special comments from Bacher Houli now because he’s down in the prayer room.’
Rob MW

#2751744, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:17 pm

Must watch TV – One Flew Over the Democrat Party

Unhinged, crazy, hateful, insane, lunatic, mental patient, crack-head, bizarre, mean, fanatic, deranged, stupid, idiotic, angry, irrational, paranoid, preposterous, psychotic, cuckoo, daft, demented, degenerate, vile, vulgar, ill-informed, etc…

None of these words are strong enough descriptors for todays political left in America

.
cohenite

#2751745, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:19 pm

I suggest someone watch every Tony Curtis movie to make sure.

Who do we want to torture?

Curtis made some decent movies: Spartacus, Some Like it Hot, Sweet Smell of Success and my favourite, Don’t Make Waves; poor Sharon Tate was in it and it was deliberately funny, unlike some of his other funny movies. Actually Curtis had a pleasant speaking voice and he did a real good take-off of the best voice in Hollywood, Cary Grant’s in Some Like It Hot. Probably the worst voice in Hollywood is Stallone’s.
stackja

#2751746, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:20 pm

Tony Curtis with Cary Grant in a sub.
Gab

#2751747, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:22 pm

Watching A Man for All Seasons and had to smile at a quait line:

Alice More enquires of her husband after he had resigned his role as Chancellor:

What’ll you do now? Sit by the fire and make goslings in the ash?

What the…? Why would anyone even think about making goslings out of ash? The absurdity I find hilarious. Probably a nonsensical phrase, such as saying “Making a wigwam for a goose’s bridle” in answer to “what are you doing?”
H B Bear

#2751748, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:22 pm

Gawd just seen footage of Pony Girl waddling the red carpet at the Logies on the Gold Coast. What a truly awful part of Australia.
C.L

#2751749, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:22 pm

I’ve watched and loved old movies since I was a boy.
Manliest man ever: The Duke. Daylight second.
Handsomest man ever: probably Cary Grant. Absurdly handsome.
Best everyman ever: Jimmy Stewart.
Best ever comedic actor: Bob Hope.
Classic tough guys: Mitchum was menacing (like a hobo made good). Bogart.
Best ever voice: Richard Burton.

Ladies:

Number 1: Marilyn Monroe. As I’ve written before, I literally wanted to punch that cowboy who tore off her bunny tail in Bus Stop, causing her to cry. Leave her alone, buddy, or else.
I was in love with Ingrid Bergman when I discovered Casablanca in my 20s. What a dreamboat.

I could go on.
Nick

#2751750, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:23 pm

ABC radio: ‘We can’t get special comments from Bacher Houli now because he’s down in the prayer room.’

Bacher loves the Bombers.
Infidel Tiger

#2751752, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:25 pm

Probably the worst voice in Hollywood is Stallone’s.

Bad and nonsensical take.

This is like saying Danny De Vito’s physique hindered his career.
BorisG

#2751753, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:25 pm

Was it Communists or Nazis who came up with such draconian laws to police people’s very beliefs?

If you compare inquisition with communist or Nazi courts then indeed inquisition was fairer. But not in comparison with current courts in western countries.
Geriatric Mayfly

#2751754, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm

health officials concerned that customers’ bags could contaminate foodstuffs with nasties festering in their dark, dank folds if placed near the meat and fresh goods counters.

Unthinkable. I took mine down to the creek today and bashed the shit out of them on a flat rock. Pristine and ready to load again.
mh

#2751755, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm

According to one union official, mice, cockroaches, needles, razor blades, dentures and dirty nappies have been found by supermarket check-out workers in reusable shopping bags

Sickening.
BorisG

#2751756, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:27 pm

On a lighter side, Spanish Inquisition is what awaits Russia tonight.
candy

#2751757, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:27 pm

Piers Akerman: Customers in revolt over big bad bag ban

I think Woolies listened to Walleed Ali and Carrie Bickmore. Both exceptionally famous and wealthy media types who made so much fun of people who think plastic bags are useful. They were sort of dismissive and condescending.
Maybe Woolies having their managers strolling around talking to the customers, asking customers for their suggestions, their thoughts on the issue, through their website ask people to tell them their views, might have been better. Also talking to their own checkout staff.
nemkat

#2751758, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:29 pm

Stackja @ 8.16pm

… According to one union official,

There’s your problem right there.
Pedro the Ignorant

#2751759, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:30 pm

Unintentional funny on Perth’s Channel 7 news tonight.

Earnest news reader detailing government plans to have welfare recipients be identified by facial recognition technology.

Cut to sock footage of a Centrelink office showing “clients” coming and going. Among those pictured was a woman (?) in the full black bag moslem rig, only facial features were a pair of eyeballs.

Might have been a mischievous film editor, however mistake or not, it caused much mirth at Casa Pedro. 🙂
Fat Tony

#2751760, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm

mh
#2751755, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm
According to one union official, mice, cockroaches, needles, razor blades, dentures and dirty nappies have been found by supermarket check-out workers in reusable shopping bags

Sickening.

Yeah, but think of the extra profit Colesworth will make now selling bags at 15c, whilst maintaining the prices that allowed for the old “free” grey bags
Steve trickler

#2751761, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm
C.L

#2751762, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm

… revolt over big bad bag ban

They should think again.
Gab

#2751763, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:33 pm

Damn you, CL!
Fat Tony

#2751765, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:33 pm

C.L
#2751762, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm
… revolt over big bad bag ban

They should think again.

C.L. – you are one sick puppy. Caught again.
Neil

#2751766, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:35 pm

According to one union official, mice, cockroaches, needles, razor blades, dentures and dirty nappies have been found by supermarket check-out workers in reusable shopping bags

How come ALDI does not report these problems? They don’t supply free plastic bags
candy

#2751767, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:35 pm

Number 1: Marilyn Monroe.

Absolutely. A wonderful comedic actress, and so beautiful. I think she may have been a kind and sweet person in real life. There’s nothing hard in her looks and features.
calli

#2751768, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:36 pm

Stinker!

Good list, though.

How about Deborah Kerr and Grace Kelly? And Errol.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

#2751770, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:37 pm

Cut to sock footage of a Centrelink office showing “clients” coming and going. Among those pictured was a woman (?) in the full black bag moslem rig, only facial features were a pair of eyeballs.

I’ll bet good money that, in the first few weeks of any such scheme, there will be an uproar because one of the religion of perpetual offense was asked to remove her veil, by an unbeliever..
C.L

#2751771, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:39 pm

Heh. 🙂
stackja

#2751772, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:41 pm

C.L
#2751749, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:22 pm

John Wayne topped Quigley’s Motion Picture Herald from 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974
dover_beach

#2751773, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:42 pm

If you compare inquisition with communist or Nazi courts then indeed inquisition was fairer. But not in comparison with current courts in western countries.

I’m sure the girls of Rotherham beg to differ.
cohenite

#2751774, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:43 pm

This is like saying Danny De Vito’s physique hindered his career.

I didn’t say Sly’s voice hindered his career, I said it was bad. Watching De Vito required a suspension of belief; listening to Stallone required a copy of the script.
jupes

#2751775, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:43 pm

ABC radio: ‘We can’t get special comments from Bacher Houli now because he’s down in the prayer room.’

That’s got to be deliberate. Houli has been a leading advocate of installing prayer rooms at the footy and the ABC would be keen to help with the propaganda.

On that subject, when the new Perth Stadium was in the contract phase, the WA government demanded that two prayer rooms be part of the design. Of course the AFL trumped them and installed three. Or so it was reported during the construction.

However there is no mention of the prayer rooms on the stadium’s website, so maybe the current management are having a few doubts about the wisdom of inviting pious Muslims to the footy. We can only hope. Next time I go to the footy, if I get there early enough I will try and find them and see how they are going. Stay tuned.
dover_beach

#2751777, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:45 pm

They should think again.

Never change.
Makka

#2751778, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:48 pm

Awesome Rob MW. Love the arrests scenes!
Boambee John

#2751779, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm

stackja
#2751746, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Tony Curtis with Cary Grant in a sub.

Sh yes, the pink submarine, with the fat pig in the heads. Good fun.
Tintarella di Luna

#2751780, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm

Unthinkable. I took mine down to the creek today and bashed the shit out of them on a flat rock. Pristine and ready to load again.

In the late 1960s when plastic bags were still a new thing in our small country town, my dear mamma would wash out the bags and hang them on the line and re-use them, the original recyclers, used to use the ash from the combustion stove as compost for the garden, composted most things except onions and citrus – Dad was a dab hand at recycling, after squashing the grapes to make wine he’d re-use the skins to make grappa. Very nice results too.
Boambee John

#2751782, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:52 pm

Ah yes,
Makka

#2751784, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

Classic tough guys: Mitchum was menacing (like a hobo made good). Bogart.

Mitchum as Max Cady in Cape Fear was the creepiest creep. Dark, threatening and violent.
stackja

#2751785, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:56 pm

GRAHAM KENNEDY AWARD FOR MOST POPULAR NEW TALENT

Dilruk Jayasinha (CRAM!, Network Ten; Utopia, ABC) WINNER
Pedro the Ignorant

#2751787, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:57 pm

Clint Eastwood should have been a contender for the CL’s “manliest man” award, but Clint blew it with that appalling chick flick Bridges of Madison County.

Partly redeemed himself with Unforgiven and Gran Torino but what has been seen cannot be unseen.

Fully concur with Richard Burton as best ever voice over. I recently watched the classic war movie Zulu and was reminded what a magnificent cultured voice he possessed.
johanna

#2751788, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:59 pm

C.L. for mine, Liz Taylor was the most beautiful screen goddess. In Butterfield 8, a fairly slight fillum, she just lit up the screen in every frame. The camera loved her, and boy, she could act, as Cat on a Hot Tin Roof and Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf demonstrate.

For sheer acting ability, Bette Davis and Eve Arden.

As for the blokes, we ladies are spoiled for choice when it comes to handsome and talented. Cary Granite (as immortalised in The Flintstones) and several of his ilk come to mind, most pleasurably.

But the unhandsome character actors, like Edward G Robinson, really deserve our respect. Imagine going into showbiz with a face like that and expecting to make a go of it. Well, he did, in spades.

As for today’s Hollywood, I can’t tell one blonde anorexic for another, and that’s just the men.
Boambee John

#2751789, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:59 pm

calli
#2751768, posted on July 1, 2018 at 8:36 pm
Stinker!

Good list, though.

How about Deborah Kerr and Grace Kelly? And Errol.

Kim Novak, Doris Day to support the blond side, with Bogart’s lady with the husky voice, whose name escapes me at the moment, and Maureen O’Sullivan on the non-blond side?
Boambee John

#2751790, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:00 pm

Also, Kathryn Grayson?
Delta A

#2751791, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:04 pm

Audrey Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart.
stackja

#2751792, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:04 pm

Man charged after damaging a police car, motorcycle and taxi – Sydney CBD
Sunday, 01 July 2018 12:18:43 PM

A man will appear in court today after allegedly damaging a motorcycle, police car and a taxi in Sydney’s CBD overnight.

About 7.25pm on Saturday 30 June 2018, police were called to licenced premises in Hunter Street after a man was excluded due to intoxication.

When the man attempted to re-renter the premises and was refused, he allegedly assaulted two security guards.

Police have been told that as the man ran from the location he struck a Harley Davidson motorcycle, which fell over, causing significant damage.

Officers from Sydney City Police Area Command attended and arrested the man who was conveyed to Day Street Police Station.

Police will allege that the man made several threats towards the arresting officers.

The man was charged with intimidate police officer in execution of duty, common assault (x 2) and malicious damage. He was released on bail.

On leaving the police station, the man allegedly kicked a parked, fully marked police car, breaking the mirror off the door and denting several panels.

He ran from the area, and a short time later allegedly kicked the mirror of a taxi, in Sussex Street.

He was pursued by police on foot, and arrested a short time later.

At the Day Street Police Station he was further charged with malicious damage (x 2) and bail refused to appear at Parramatta Bail Court today (Sunday 1 July 2018).

The teenager was celebrating his 18th birthday.
Farmer Gez

#2751793, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:04 pm

Another non blonde but a cracker. Gene Tierney.
notafan

#2751794, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:05 pm

Was any legal system back in the day fairer?

Nor did the inquisition prosecute people just for being anything. Two groups of people were expelled from Spain, only those who converted were allowed to stay, if you lied and got caught out you were in trouble. Far more about loyalty to the Spanish crown than anything else.

Trial by ordeal was far worse, by the way, than the inquisition.

Incidentally, the Catholic church laid the foundation of our modern legal system.

Just say thank you.
Pedro the Ignorant

#2751795, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:05 pm

Richard Burton reads the list of Victoria Cross recipients fron the battle of Rorke’s Drift.

Closing scene from the film Zulu.
johanna

#2751796, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:06 pm

Some great names listed.

John, the name you are searching for is Lauren Bacall. Another offbeat wonder, not conventionally Barbie doll at all. What a star!

While we are talking about talent, let me put in a vote for Natalie Wood.
Confused Old Misfit

#2751797, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:06 pm

Kathryn Hepburn
stackja

#2751798, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:07 pm

Top Ten Money Making Stars Poll
From Wikipedia
Pedro the Ignorant

#2751799, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:07 pm

Dud link. Sorry.

Zulu:
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#2751800, posted on July 1, 2018 at 9:09 pm

Incidentally, the Catholic church laid the foundation of our modern legal system.

Maybe in equity, but the other stuff? There is no way the modern church wants to be credited with the expulsion of people based something like the Test Act, en Espanol.

Just say thank you.

No.

Anyway, our modern legal system ain’t what it is cracked up to be.