Open Forum: July 21, 2018

Posted on 12:01 am, July 21, 2018 by Sinclair Davidson
This entry was posted in Open Forum. Bookmark the permalink.

1,282 Responses to Open Forum: July 21, 2018

1 2 3 … 6
  1. davefromweewaa
    #2768871, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:02 am

    davefromweewaa
    no1!

  2. C.L.
    #2768874, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:03 am

    Sinclair says you can say what you like here and he’ll protect you.
    For $68,000.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2768880, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:12 am

    Poduim? I claim this thread in the name of Lauren Southern, and all the Anti Fascist cardboard warriors can get knotted. Most of them would shit themselves of they ever saw a real Fascist up close, anyway.

  7. davefromweewaa
    #2768881, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:12 am

    My fantasy palace coup.
    Abbott for Turnbull, Dutton for Bishop and Joyce for Freydenbrg and every Photios faction Blackhander dis-endorsed.
    Barnaby would be motivated to ensure that Turnbull’s stop doing well.

  10. memoryvault
    #2768884, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:16 am

    My fantasy palace coup.

    So, you want to replace one bunch of self-serving party politicians with another bunch of the same.

    And then . . . ?

  11. mh
    #2768885, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:17 am

    I am the first to mention Trump on this thread.

  13. Bruce in WA
    #2768887, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:21 am

    Unlucky 13!

    Thank God this clown didn’t have a gun!!

    Lone wolf, of course.

    Serious injuries after German knife attack

    At least 14 people have been wounded, two of them seriously, in a suspected knife attack on a bus in the northern German city of Luebeck, the local Luebecker Nachrichten newspaper reports, adding that the suspect had been caught.

    Paywalled.

  15. Death Giraffe
    #2768889, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:22 am

    Sorry.
    Scroll if you don’t like wood.
    from last thread.
    Subscribe, why not?


  16. davefromweewaa
    #2768891, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:24 am

    and then….
    cancel the RET and pull out of the Paris agreement,
    obviously.

  18. zyconoclast
    #2768893, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:25 am

    JC
    #2768879, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:11 am

    WSJ Offers Up World’s First Review Of Tesla Model 3 Performance

    Calls it a rainbow-farting spaceship.

    We were wrong. We had thought that Marques Brownlee was the first outside of Tesla staff to get their hands on the Dual Motor Performance version of the Model 3, but a newly published review of the mid-sized sedan appears to prove us wrong.

    The resident automotive wordsmith at the Wall Street Journal, Dan Neil, has had the opportunity to flog the car mercilessly take it for a “leisurely” spin and tour the Fremont factory where it was pieced together.

    In his considered opinion the spicy version of Tesla’s latest offering is “…magnificent, a little rainbow-farting space ship, so obviously representative of the next step in the history of autos.” That’s pretty high praise. But noting that it exits corners faster than a BMW M4, “out-punches” a Porsche Boxster, and out-clouds a Rolls-Royce (we admit we’re not sure what he’s getting at here, since the ride is definitely engineered towards the stiff side). He also lets slip that, despite its glass roof, it has a five-star rollover crash rating. While we can’t confirm this is an official rating yet, we do note that it performed quite well in the only actual roll-over accident we are aware of.

    While Neil does melodiously sing the car’s praises, he also has some criticisms. The A-pillar that no doubt has something to do with its rollover crash performance is too thick for his apex-hunting preferences. The tires on his $78,000 loaner, a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, aren’t as grippy as he’d like. He’s also not a fan of how the 15-inch screen breaks up the dash, calling it, “the broken flower pot on Mona Lisa’s head.”

    One thing he doesn’t criticize are the panel gaps, which he says straight and consistent, unlike even the show car that had been on display at the Los Angeles Motor Show. Apparently, some of that those manufacturing problems have been worked out, according to engineers he talked to, though.

    Speaking of production, Neil, who has been through many auto manufacturing operations over the years, wasn’t especially impressed by the Fremont facility. He calls it “the Kobe beef of lean production,” which is to say not especially lean at all. Its lighting leaves something to be desired and parts are piled high. The robots hanging from the ceiling seem to give him pause for safety concerns.

    Overall, it’s clear that Neil is on the bullish side, and thinks that despite the recent sub-optimal controversy surrounding CEO Elon Musk, the car is a winner, and one that appears to have improved in a number of ways since it first started being produced.

  19. memoryvault
    #2768894, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:29 am

    cancel the RET and pull out of the Paris agreement,

    That would be the RET brought in by Abbott, and the Paris Agreement, signed by Abbott.
    And he’s heading up your “A” Team?

  21. davefromweewaa
    #2768898, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:33 am

    MV,
    The alternatives are continuing with Turnbull or Shorten or Albenesy after the next election.
    What say you?

  23. Whalehunt Fun
    #2768901, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:38 am

    Not if Kim Jong Un nukes Canberra.

  25. Makka
    #2768903, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:39 am

    We’re fvcked.

    We were fucked during Abbott’s term as PM.

  26. memoryvault
    #2768905, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:42 am

    Not if Kim Jong Un nukes Canberra.

    How will that change anything – apart from temporarily reducing the APS wages bill?
    That’s assuming he had any nukes – which he doesn’t.

  27. Mark A
    #2768906, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:43 am

    Thanks Zyko, lovely .
    Bit of different culture for the cats’ enjoyment.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2768907, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:44 am

    Yes.
    We’re fvcked.

    I’m resigned to at least two terms of a Shorten/Plibersek Government, in coalition with the Greens. The boat traffic will resume five days after the inauguration, there will be a wealth tax, death duties, and all the other trappings of the “politics of envy”, and, by the end of the second term, Australia will resemble such economic powerhouses as Zimbabwe and Venezuela, and no government willing to take the strong steps to rebuild the economy will ever be elected.

  29. memoryvault
    #2768908, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:44 am

    We were fucked during Abbott’s term as PM.

    FactCheck = True.
    He didn’t start the rot, but he ensured it was concreted in place.

  30. memoryvault
    #2768910, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:48 am

    I’m resigned to at least two terms of a Shorten/Plibersek Government

    Close, Zulu. But Labor Right have now lost the power ace to Labor Left again.
    Albosleazy will be the next PM. Pliebber’s fate is interesting speculation.

  31. Makka
    #2768914, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:57 am

    This in mOron’s team. This is the leftist sickness he defends. Sure he’s just donut eating airhead but he DEFENDS this kind of behaviour.

    But, but, but Wussia!!!!

    USA has dropped columnist Cheri Jacobus after the the political strategist and frequent TV pundit insulted Republican consultant and Trump ally Michael Caputo’s daughters and suggested that they be used at “parties” by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

    https://www.thewrap.com/usa-today-drops-columnist-cheri-jacobus-tweet-convicted-pe do phile-jeffrey-epstein/

  32. Death Giraffe
    #2768918, posted on July 21, 2018 at 1:33 am

    Having a spot of bother winding down after that Southern- Molyneux event.
    Every other bastard got into the event by bus.
    Only two idiots were stupid enough to try to walk in the gate.

  34. Armadillo
    #2768926, posted on July 21, 2018 at 2:58 am

    My optimism about Australia has declined every year since I’ve been born.

    Old Australia is dead. Dead as a door nail.

  42. Tom
    #2768935, posted on July 21, 2018 at 4:54 am

    The Melbourne Herald-Sun’s Jeff Hook — famous for his annual AFL Premiers cartoons after the grand final for half a century — died this week, aged 90. Jeff continued working up until 2017 for the Sportshounds website, put together in recent years by a team of Melbourne’s most famous sports writers.

  43. None
    #2768936, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:36 am

    Thanks, Tom. Sad to hear of Jeff Hook’s passing but one can’t say he didn’t live a long and wonderful life. RIP. I hope I’m still working at 90.

  44. None
    #2768937, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:39 am

    Bloody hell digi he walked through that?
    I was just reading Tim Blair’s report and saw a feed of a woman if you can call it that being hauled off as she tried to jump the stage. Mindless , senseless. What were the ferals like outside question Mark with a threatening you directly or just being general savages towards the police?

  45. None
    #2768938, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:42 am

    LOL it seems my software needs coffee more than I do in the morning.

  47. 132andBush
    #2768940, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:50 am

    Sad to hear about Jeff Hook.
    Still have my copy of “Jamie the Jumbo Jet” ( First edition from the early 70’s).
    All my kids have loved it in turn.

  48. rickw
    #2768941, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:52 am

    Through this:

    Nice selection of communist filth. Arrived back in this shit hole 20 minutes ago.

  49. None
    #2768942, posted on July 21, 2018 at 6:44 am

    A spokeswoman for Victoria Police said safety was the “number one priority” and confirmed that there would be a “strong police presence” outside the event.

    “We are equipped and well-prepared to deploy resources, respond and intervene where needed. Individuals have the right to lawfully attend events and protest, however we ask that people do so peacefully and respectfully without impact on the rest of the community. The spokeswoman said under the Victoria Police (fees and charges) Regulations 2014, Victoria Police “has the right to charge any event organiser for the use of police resources”.

    However she declined to confirm whether the union organisers of a large rally in Melbourne in April, which saw up to 100,000 supporters flock to the CBD and saw the closure of major roads and tram routes. A spokesman from the ACTU declined to comment, while Victorian Trades Hall Council did not respond to requests for comment by deadline.

    Yep. Victoria Police chiefs are corrupt. They created a financial incentive for the ferals to protest by billing the organisers. And they only do the organisers of any event that is not left. These police Chiefs are also endangering the men and women on the ground who have to face these ferals by incentivising the violence. These police chiefs and the Labor government are utterly contemptible and corrupt.

  50. Mater
    #2768943, posted on July 21, 2018 at 6:58 am

    What were the ferals like outside question Mark with a threatening you directly or just being general savages towards the police?

    None,
    Death Giraffe took a couple of significant punches to the head and body.
    Disappointly, the police were watching it happen from the other side of a fence. If you made it through to their lines, you were ok. If not, you were on your own.
    Plenty of police, not a lot of pro-active action. I was extremely disappointed.
    If they had immediately ‘scruffed’ anyone who touched/assaulted an attendee, the protest numbers would have reduced, in very short order.
    There was plenty of reasons to put most of those ‘protestors’ in a Divisional Van, just not lot of motivation.

  51. Twostix
    #2768944, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:00 am

    The Victorian police state has always been this way. The Eureka stockade, Ned Kelly, these things only happened in Victoria because they could only happen in Victoria.

    Victorians obviously like the arrangement at some level.

  52. OldOzzie
    #2768945, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:21 am

    EDITORIALS
    Boats still Labor’s Achilles heel

    People-smugglers eager to profit from 14,000 asylum-seekers awaiting boat passages from Indonesia will be well aware that influential Labor Party figures want to weaken the opposition’s position on border protection. Bill Shorten knows he would be on a hiding to nothing at the next election if the ACTU push to end offshore detention and boat turnbacks succeeded at the party’s national conference in December. That is why, as Ben Packham reports today, the Opposition Leader is dependent on workplace relations spokesman Brendan O’Connor and his brother, Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union boss Michael O’Connor, to maintain the status quo at the conference. Brendan O’Connor speaks with the voice of experience. As Labor’s home affairs and justice minister in 2010, he was on the scene at Christmas Island within days of the December 2010 tragedy when 50 asylum-seekers, mainly from Iran and Iraq, died after a boat known as SIEV 221 crashed against rocks.

    Mr Shorten could hardly rely on his deputy, Tanya Plibersek, or potential leadership rival Anthony Albanese to uphold Labor’s current policy. At the 2015 conference, as members of Labor’s Left, both of them voted against boat turnbacks, with Ms Plibersek using a proxy. Mr Albanese insisted yesterday that he supported the party’s existing policy but he refused to say whether he would vote against turnbacks at the upcoming conference, saying he did not expect a big debate on the issue.

    The ACTU has other plans, judging by the passion of its new president, Michele O’Neil, on the issue this week. Delegates to the union congress voted that a Labor government should abandon “offshore solutions”, including intercepting and turning back boats at sea or transferring passengers to other vessels to return to their countries of origin. The effectiveness of such policies has made Australia the envy of other nations, especially in Europe, where 50,000 people have crossed the Mediterranean on boats from Africa so far this year.

    Operation Sovereign Borders has been one of the Coalition’s outstanding achievements. After 52,000 asylum-seekers arrived on 848 boats, with 1160 deaths at sea, as a result of the Rudd and Gillard governments dismantling of John Howard’s Pacific Solution, sceptics doubted Tony Abbott’s promise to stop the boats. But the Coalition did so by the end of 2013, with just one vessel arriving in 2014.

    The Coalition’s success in handling the issue has resulted in the issue losing much of its political potency. But the disclosure by Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton that 33 boats had been turned back in the past couple of years demonstrates the need for government to maintain tight border control and not to relax the current policies. So do the intelligence reports Mr Dutton has mentioned from Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Malaysia that suggest people-smugglers are trying to resume their trade.

    Given Labor’s sharp internal divisions on border protection and the rising power of trade unions within the labour movement, Mr Shorten would prefer to see the issue off the agenda. Preventing asylum-seekers arriving by boat is, however, a vital part of maintaining national security. It is a legitimate topic for debate in the lead-up to next week’s “Super Saturday” by-elections and the next federal election.

  53. OldOzzie
    #2768946, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:28 am

    Pressure is on as cities burst at the seams – Judith Sloan

    It is gradually dawning on Malcolm Turnbull that many Australians, particularly those in Sydney and Melbourne, are extremely annoyed by the urban pressures they are experiencing as a result of rapid population growth.

    That this growth is overwhelmingly the result of the immigration policy settings of the government should be sufficient reason for the Prime Minister to be reconsidering those settings. Recall that Australia is adding the equivalent of a city the size of Canberra to the population each year and two-thirds of the increase in the population is from immigration. Recall also that most new migrants head to Sydney and Melbourne.

    One of the inadequate res­ponses of the government has been to brag about the recent undershooting of the annual cap on permanent migrants. This is set at 190,000, with the plan for this number to remain the same for the next three years. Instead of 190,000, the actual figure for 2017-18 was 163,000. Mind you, there has been an increase of more than 40,000 in the number of people on bridging visas who are waiting to hear about their applications for permanent residence.

    The figure of 163,000 also doesn’t include the large number of temporary migrants who also require accommodation, use transport and access various ser­vices. More than 1.6 million temporary migrants with work rights are in the country and their number has been growing at about 100,000 a year for some time.

    That’s why we need to focus on net overseas migration, which includes permanent and longer-term temporary migrants and accounts for departures. The NOM is running at about 240,000 a year, which is high by historical standards. Add in births over deaths and the result is the change to the population. Of all developed economies, Australia has one of the highest rates of annual population growth at 1.6 per cent. This is double to triple the figures recorded in Europe, the US and Britain.

    This raises the question about what the governments of those countries appreciate that our government doesn’t. Can it be that the case for a modest immigration program is well-founded? Given that some of our cities are bursting at the seams and there is really no scope to direct migrants to live in particular locations, is there a strong case for throttling back the annual number of permanent immigrants — to 100,000, say?

    For various reasons, the Prime Minister is baulking at this option and pushes the line that planning and investment in infrastructure will solve all the problems associated with rapid population growth.

    What he fails to acknowledge is that the cost of the required infrastructure to deal with these population pressures within existing conurbations is extremely high. To upgrade and expand transport links within settled areas, for instance, costs billions of dollars and creates serious inconvenience. Just look at the fiasco of the light rail project in Sydney

    Then there is the sheer scale of what is required. One estimate puts the infrastructure effort required in the next 50 years to accommodate our larger population as five times the effort made in the past half century.

    Note that the costs are borne by users or through taxation. Advocates of congestion charges on roads fail to emphasise the financial burden placed on users, particularly those who cannot alter the timing of their trips — tradies and working parents getting their kids to school are two examples. We would be better off without the congestion in the first place.

    So let me return to the issue of urban pressures and focus on the types of real estate developments that are being facilitated by governments to accommodate the rapid growth of the population.

    The area in which I live in Melbourne is becoming unrecognisable. Many of the houses on the main arterial roads are being torn down and replaced by apartment buildings. (The local government is excluded from any planning decisions in respect of these developments.) Where once four or six people lived, there are now 30 or 40.

    For sites closer to railway stations, the apartment buildings are eight to 10 stories. In one instance, a factory has been replaced. In another, there were several shops. Again, there are many more people compared with the recent past.

    But here’s the rub: nothing else has changed. The local schools haven’t been expanded, there is the same number of car spaces at the local shops, there are no more medical practices, there is no more green space.

    If we look at the Melbourne CBD — another grimy construction site — the level of urban density has reached the same level as New York City. There were 19,500 residents per square kilometre recorded in the 2016 census. The population of Greater Melbourne grew by 2.7 per cent last year, faster than any major US city.

    Looking at Sydney, the state of affairs is much the same. Last week, plans were released for an eight-storey development in Rouse Hill made up of 1100 tiny units. The original plan had been for three to six storeys. There will be parking for 1015 cars but 1210 bicycle spaces. A mere 5 per cent of units will be reserved for “affordable housing”. The mocked-up version of the development resembles old East Berlin

    But Sydneysiders have nothing to fear because the Greater Sydney Commission has everything in hand. Sydney is going to be divided into three cities and five districts, which will be “more productive, sustainable and liveable”, according to its blurb. Rather than make the case for slowing the rate of population growth, the commission meekly accepts that “Greater Sydney is growing fast”.

    “The region will be home to about 1.6 million more people over the next 20 years,” it adds.

    I guess if you live in a very large house — some might even call it a harbourside mansion — close to the CBD as well as the airport, it must be hard to empathise with the daily pressures faced by many Sydneysiders and Melburnians.

    How long will it take to get to work? Will I be delayed dropping off the kids? Can I get back home in reasonable time to cook dinner, supervise the homework, do the required chores and prepare for the next day? Can I get an appointment to the doctor at a suitable time? Can I get the older children into a high school that will suit them? Will the mortgage repayment be affordable? What about the electricity bill? These are the mundane questions that dominate the lives of many people in Sydney and Melbourne.

    These are questions the Prime Minister has never had to pose. The same goes for most members of parliament.

    The bottom line is that the federal government has paid too much attention to property developers, universities, businesses and migrant lobby groups and too little attention to ordinary folk. The pressures faced by people living in larger cities whose populations have been allowed to grow too quickly have been ignored.

    By cranking up the permanent migrant intake and keeping it there and adopting an extremely permissive approach to the entry and ongoing residence of temporary migrants, the government has failed to take into account the legitimate preferences of the incumbent population.

    It’s time for a measured population policy to be put in place with features that are very different from the out of control and manipulated arrangements we now have.

  55. OldOzzie
    #2768950, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:39 am

    EDITORIALS
    Trump’s take on globalism always puts America first

    It is two years today since Donald Trump accepted the Republican Party’s nomination as presidential candidate. After a tumultuous week in which the US President clashed with NATO leaders in Europe, weighed in on Brexit in the UK and confounded everyone — including himself apparently — during a pivotal summit with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, it is timely to revisit his speech in Cleveland, Ohio, in 2016. Doing so will reassure his supporters and only further infuriate his trenchant critics because it confirms, by and large, that he is doing what he promised. While, like all presidents, Mr Trump is making mistakes, he has a clear idea of what he intends to achieve. “Recently I have said that NATO was obsolete because it did not properly cover terror and also that many of the member countries were not paying their fair share,” Mr Trump told the Republican convention. “As usual, the United States has been picking up the cost. Shortly thereafter, it was announced that NATO will be setting up a new program in order to combat terrorism.” This puts the Brussels kerfuffle into perspective. For all the bluster, overstatement and deliberate provocation from this most unorthodox President, he has followed through on a consistent line to pressure European nations to fund a larger slice of NATO costs, an aim shared by all of his recent predecessors. Like it or lump it, we have to consider that Mr Trump’s wild rhetoric and undiplomatic Twitter pronouncements may actually deliver results in some circumstances.

    In 2016, Mr Trump said America was “far less safe” and the world “far less stable” than when Barack Obama appointed Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. “Iraq is in chaos,” he said. “Iran is on the path to nuclear weapons. Syria is engulfed in a civil war and a refugee crisis … now threatens the West.” He was promising to “put America first” when few predicted he would win the presidency. “Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo,” he pledged. Little wonder that he would shake up global diplomacy. Just as Mr Trump promised to “drain the swamp” in an attack on Washington’s political establishment, he was always going to jar with the multilateral pretensions of the Europeans. His victory represented, among other things, a desire by voters to reassert American sovereignty. It stems from a similar disenchantment and sense of national destiny that shaped the Brexit referendum win. So Mr Trump’s support for a hard Brexit and frustration at the complications that could arise for allies under Theresa May’s hybrid model is understandable. But, typically, his views came forth in an unpredictable and unhelpful way, with a frank media interview embarrassing his host and tarnishing the British visit. This highlights the dangerous paradox of Mr Trump’s diplomacy, as examined this week by our editor-at-large, Paul Kelly. “Trump’s character cannot be mistaken — he will betray his friends and reward his enemies at his own convenience,” Kelly said.

    And so it was that the brutal, anti-democratic and expansionist Russian President, Mr Putin, benefited most from Mr Trump’s European tour. Despite Mr Trump’s contortions and corrections about Russian hacking in the lead-up to the US election, the indisputable takeout is that he is willing to put all this aside to build better relations. Detente with Russia might well be a justifiable goal but it must not preclude strong rhetoric and demands over cyber attacks, the annexation of Crimea, atrocities such as the downing of MH17 and double-gaming in Syria. Mr Trump seems so preoccupied with his own ego and attacks on the legitimacy of his election that he sees any references to Russian hacking as giving ground to those who accuse his campaign team of collusion. We hope hypersensitivity on these political issues does not pollute the great power strategy at play.

    Just a year ago, in his best speech as President, Mr Trump spoke eloquently in Poland about Western civilisation and threats against it. “We urge Russia to cease its destabilising activities in Ukraine and elsewhere, and its support for hostile regimes — including Syria and Iran — and to instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and in defence of civilisation itself,” he told a crowd in Warsaw. There is no sign yet that Mr Putin is ready for this positive role. He seems to have won over Mr Trump without offering a single concession on matters of significance.

    Yet those who underestimate Mr Trump risk, yet again, being proven wrong. This President understands the intrinsic importance of sovereignty and is reasserting it as citizens do the same in the UK and Europe. As Cameron Stewart reports from the midwest heartland, Mr Trump’s supporters are not deterred by critiques from the foreign policy establishment or even fellow Republicans. They believe Mr Trump has people taking their country seriously again. With an Australian visit looming late this year we need to be sober in our assessments and look for Mr Trump’s areas of policy continuity, as well as any troubling divergences.

  56. calli
    #2768951, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:44 am

    And there was mourning, and wailing, and rending of garments and gnashing of teeth throughout the land…

    Mike Amor, on Seven, just admitted that Trump would probably win a second term.

  57. woolfe
    #2768952, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:44 am

    Disney has dropped James Gunn after @cernovich revealed his kiddy fiddle bragging tweets.

  58. Snoopy
    #2768955, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Mike Amor, on Seven, just admitted that Trump would probably win a second term.

    Apparently Mike Amor doesn’t follow Monty at the Cat.

  59. calli
    #2768957, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Mike A is laughable. In ‘16, he bragged that he would be leaving the US if Trump won.

    He’s still there.

  60. Herodotus
    #2768958, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Remember all those hysterical ALP-Union funded attack ads about Work Choices which had as their recurring theme “those bastard bosses”?
    Then read about Emma Husar, the ALP’s member for Lindsay.

  61. John Constantine
    #2768959, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:04 am

    Judith’s column is unsettling for those unwavering in their commitment to the unfunded Ponzi and fashionable decolonisation theory.

    It can be argued that net importation of voters to function as consumption machines does not calculate our liabilities fully enough.

    Those that return to peasantistan once qualified for Australian benefits can still vote for increased welfare in Australia’s elections, and are still clients to consume Australia’s medical services if they become expensively stricken with long term disease.

    Gross figures with no smoothing are our true liability.

  62. OldOzzie
    #2768962, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:06 am

    Herodotus
    #2768958, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Remember all those hysterical ALP-Union funded attack ads about Work Choices which had as their recurring theme “those bastard bosses”?
    Then read about Emma Husar, the ALP’s member for Lindsay.

    Emma Husar: Labor ‘slaves’ tell of doing MP’s chores

    An internal ALP investigation is weighing allegations against federal MP Emma Husar — including that a taxpayer-funded staffer moved into her house to perform domestic duties — in a probe that could lead to her disendorsement from her marginal seat.

    Senior party figures last night appeared to be closing ranks behind the first-term MP for the western Sydney seat of Lindsay, despite her facing allegations from as many as 20 former staffers who claim they were bullied, verbally abused and in some cases treated like slaves. One staff member, ­Vanessa Song, is said to have been used to perform domestic duties for Ms Husar.

    Contacted by The Weekend Australian yesterday and asked whether she lived with Ms Husar or performed domestic duties on her behalf, Ms Song said: “I’m not to comment on anything.” She asked for questions in writing.

    A Labor source later confirmed that a staff member was staying with Ms Husar.

    Sources told The Weekend Australian it was common for Ms Husar to require staff to serve in work time as “babysitters” for two of her three children, to wash dishes, walk her dog, clean up dog ­excrement and do other chores.

    It was also reported yesterday that Ms Husar allegedly told a male staff member to do her dishes so he could learn about “white male privilege”.

    An advertisement for a media and policy adviser in Ms Husar’s office, circulated via internal Labor email, listed tasks including “running errands” and “supporting various personal, professional and family obligations” for the taxpayer-funded position.

    Up to 20 former staff have given evidence about their treatment to an inquiry, which has spanned three months and has been conducted by barrister and former party staffer John Whelan for the NSW ALP’s head office.

    Mr Whelan is understood to have briefed Sussex Street ­officials about the investigation this week.

    The report is believed to have investigated alleged bullying, verbal abuse and other behaviour towards electorate staff. As a backbencher, Ms Husar is entitled to four electorate staff. She is understood to have lost 20 in the past two years.

    The large group of former staffers to have complained are reluctant to speak publicly at this stage, fearing possible retribution.

    They are hoping Mr Whelan’s report will be referred by NSW general secretary Kaila Murnain next month to the NSW party’s administrative committee for a decision on whether the MP should be reprimanded under ALP rules, as a prelude to possible disendorsement as the party ­candidate for Lindsay at the next election.

    Ms Husar had already been re-endorsed as Labor’s candidate in Lindsay as part of the ALP’s early confirmation of candidates sitting on slim margins, and to maintain female representation levels.

    She holds Lindsay with a margin of 1.1 per cent after defeating former Liberal MP Fiona Scott at the 2016 election.

    One complainant said: “Working for any MP can be high pressure, and you get asked to do things that are not in your job ­description.

    “But there is a certain point that crosses the line.

    “To be told to do the dishes is one thing. The way you’re told, and the way it’s presented, is a different thing. Everyone had a turn at being her slave.”

    Ms Husar allegedly would favour certain staff over and above others, but often fall out with them when they did not meet her expectations of “loyalty”.

    “She would question their work ethic, run them down, make them rewrite a letter six or seven times beyond just correcting grammatical errors.

    “She would make you correct her corrections.”

    Bill Shorten’s office has denied being aware of allegations about Ms Husar’s behaviour last year.

    But sources asked how it was possible for a backbench MP to “churn” through so many staff in two years without word reaching higher levels in the party.

    Another allegation includes that household items may have been purchased using her ­electorate allowance.

    A NSW Labor spokesman said: “The ALP has an independent process for assessing complaints.

    “The independent process also provides advice to the party on what action, if any, is necessary in response.

    “The process is mindful to provide protection to the complainant and also procedural fairness to the subject of the complaint.

    “As such, no public comment is made during the course of any independent assessments.’’

    Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese defended Ms Husar, saying he knew she was a single mother who worked incredibly hard and represented her electorate very strongly.

    “I find her a terrific person to deal with,” Mr Albanese said.

    “I had not met her frankly before she ran for Lindsay, but I find her a very good local member of parliament.”

    Ms Husar said: “I was horrified to learn that complaints have been made. At no time has any staff member raised these issues with me.

    “The assertions that have been made do not reflect who I am or how my office operates.

    “I love my job and I am incredibly passionate about representing the Lindsay community I have lived in my whole life.

    “My community doesn’t get the airtime it deserves and I am working hard to change that.

    “My office is a professional and respectful workplace.

    “It should not be perceived in any other way, and of course I am sorry if any person has been given reason to think otherwise.

    “I am a single mum with three children, working hard and doing my best.

    “If I have let anyone down, I apologise.’’

  63. None
    #2768963, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:10 am

    Every time there is a new revelation about the sex predator racket at Cromer High I am gobsmacked. If this happened at a Catholic school you would lose your hearing due to the screaming lefty banshees. Today’s instalment basically reports a rape, a student being raped by a teacher. So help me god these bastards better be rounded up and held to account, especially the king bastard who also seems to have murdered his wife. FFS what sort of country do we live in?

  64. Herodotus
    #2768964, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:13 am

    The 1950s used to be criticised by the commentariat as unspeakably boring and hidebound.
    We could with a bit more “boring” aka normal life and a lot less of the hysteria, hypocrisy and insanity of modern politics and media.

  65. Shy Ted
    #2768965, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:14 am

    Chap with the knife identified as “German national who may have been born abroad”. Who’d a thunk it?

  66. None
    #2768967, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:17 am

    Mater
    #2768943, posted on July 21, 2018 at 6:58 am

    OMG that is outrageous. DG I hope you are OK. Mater you and DG should initiate civil action against the antifa organisers for assault. There must be video footage surely. E.g. https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/organisers-introduce-complicated-measures-to-keep-location-of-lauren-southern-talk-secret/news-story/3972f35d2c901af9f679906451dc1a72 Collect all you can. There are websites that name perps that are organisers (naturally ignored by the MSM) and may help identify some of the thugs in the photos. And surely a lawyer would do this pro bono as a public interest case. This is classic PTSS territory.

  67. None
    #2768968, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Naturally you should also file a complaint with the police (and against the police). But civil action is still an option. These antifa types need to be treated like Raptor treats bikies. They should have the entire book thrown at them.

  68. C.L.
    #2768970, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:25 am

    “German national who may have been born abroad”

    A transsexual?

  69. John Constantine
    #2768971, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:26 am

    Crony socialism in Australia is now revealed to have another corrupt arrangement.
    Big Media promotes and protects Big Foreign funded fighter Protest, which collides with Big Protection Racket Vicpol.

    They all need each other colluding to operate at highest profit for least effort.

    Taxpayers fund the lot, except for seed funding from soros to kick it all off.

    Comrades

  70. None
    #2768972, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:27 am

    Like I said I am no fan of Lauren Southern but the media is being totally malicious by reporting she promised to “cause chaos”. Her actual words were to “cause chaos in a good way.”

  71. Pickles
    #2768973, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:28 am

    By many indeces the country’s rooted. But barreling into the Fortune of War about 9 last night after an abscence of a dozen years to find it heaving with tits and arse, a bloke in the corner strumming up a storm and Reschs on tap at $56 a Gallon and I form the view that there’s life in the old girl yet. You rippa.

  72. H B Bear
    #2768974, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:37 am

    As Oscar Wilde once said, “To lose one electorate staffer may be regarded as misfortune, to lose twenty looks like slavery”.

    I suggest Ms Husar convert to Islam and start cultivating those Falafel Land imams if she hasn’t already done so.

  73. Death Giraffe
    #2768975, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:40 am

    I will clarify Mater’s comment.
    They were not punches.
    A stray elbow or shoulder copped on the way through.
    (I might have been whining to Mater about it afterwards in an effeminate manner and ruining the general atmosphere. Sorry Mater)
    All my own fault for being a dwarf.

  74. Mater
    #2768976, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:40 am

    Mater you and DG should initiate civil action against the antifa organisers for assault.

    Amongst the chaos of last night, an uplifting story.
    The stout young guy, who fight his way through the ‘riot’ behind us, expressed his dismay at being bashed for being a Nazi given that he was Jewish…and a member of the Greens Party.
    I queried if these weren’t ‘his’ people. The response: “Not these lunatics!”

    He was there to listen respectfully to another side to assist with his ongoing political assessment, as he had apparently also done at Milo’s event. He didn’t believe in being labelled either Left or Right.
    I take my hat off to him for being open minded and to continually critically assess the political situation as it evolves.

  75. BrettW
    #2768977, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:41 am

    Oops ! Just a clerical error no doubt.

    Cut and Paste today reveals the AWU after an audit revised it’s 2017 membership numbers to 69,786 down 17,420 or 20% from previous year.

    Same game the TWU NSW was at. Although in there case they almost doubled the numbers. Head of TWU, Sheldon, now No 1 Senate ticket.

    Naturally numbers equals more votes at Labor party conferences and more influence over party positions.

    Shorten from AWU.

    Talking of Umions I heard radio ad by Unions Qld having a go at Pauline / One Nation. I guess they just assume every Union member is a Labor voter.

  76. Mater
    #2768978, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Amongst the chaos of last night, an uplifting story.
    The stout young guy, who fight his way through the ‘riot’ behind us, expressed his dismay at being bashed for being a Naz1 given that he was J3wish…and a member of the Greens Party.
    I queried if these weren’t ‘his’ people. The response: “Not these lunatics!”

    He was there to listen respectfully to another side to assist with his ongoing political assessment, as he had apparently also done at Milo’s event. He didn’t believe in being labelled either Left or Right.
    I take my hat off to him for being open minded and to continually critically assess the political situation as it evolves.

  77. Mater
    #2768980, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:43 am

    All my own fault for being a dwarf.

    I called you a Leprechaun.

  78. H B Bear
    #2768981, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:44 am

    A Peanut Head AWU Ponzi?

    The future is stacking.

  79. John Constantine
    #2768982, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:45 am

    The dogbox apartments Rort is designed by developers to dump unfunded liabilities upon the taxpayer.

    Vertical battery farm cages for humans are filled with the lure of Australian welfare as bait.

    No parking or gardens or play areas or backyard barbecues, all these to be provided by the taxpayer and ratepayers for free.

    Those moving in luxury apartment price apartheid segregated vertical gated communities have wealth from the property population Ponzi, plus domestic slaves in such quantities that they are stacked six deep in the cash market.

    Australia has been transformed overnight down the path to Shanghai and Mumbai, all it cost was a trillion dollars in current debt and a trillion dollars in unfunded future liabilities.

    Stacking consumption machines tight and high up into the sky, on credit, is our Strength.

    Comrades.

  80. Death Giraffe
    #2768983, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:48 am

    I called you a Leprechaun

    ..
    Your plan to get in by throwing me over the fence was degrading to little people and poorly thought through.

  81. Atoms for Peace
    #2768984, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Water cannon and pepper spray . Works wonders on the lefty protestors.

  82. Herodotus
    #2768985, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:51 am

    The Debate on Climate Change – featuring Curry, Moore, Mann and Titley on the one stage.
    Conversations – YouTube – From June 6th.

  83. Mater
    #2768986, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:51 am

    Your plan to get in by throwing me over the fence was degrading to little people and poorly thought through.

    Disregarded only because the Cops flatly refused to catch you.

  84. None
    #2768987, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:53 am

    Death Giraffe
    #2768975, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:40 am

    You were assaulted. That is why you were up at a late hour still buzzing. Your body was reacting. Lodge a complaint with the police for assault. Do it for no other reason than to send a message that you should not be copping an elbow or a shoulder in order to go listen to someone speak. Everyone who attended should lodge a complaint. Intimidation, destruction of private property (attacking the bus) etc etc

  85. None
    #2768988, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:54 am

    Water cannon and pepper spray . Works wonders on the lefty protestors.

    Throw them job applications. As someone said, it would clear the road in microseconds.

  86. None
    #2768989, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:55 am

    Mater
    #2768978, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:42 am

    That is a good story. Good on him.

  87. calli
    #2768990, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:55 am

    The stout young guy, who fight his way through the ‘riot’ behind us, expressed his dismay at being bashed for being a Naz1 given that he was J3wish…and a member of the Greens Party.

    If a bashing by his own political allies doesn’t knock some sense into him, nothing will. Lemming-like, he will go singing over the cliff and be surprised that there are rocks at the bottom.

  88. None
    #2768991, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:57 am

    Emma Husar proves again that every woman in politics is utterly utterly useless and should be expelled and then banned from ever holding public office for life. And what a dog, playing the gender card, as if being a woman much less a single mother somehow exempts you from being a bully and a bitch.

  89. Tel
    #2768992, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:02 am

    A NSW Labor spokesman said: “The ALP has an independent process for assessing complaints.

    “The independent process also provides advice to the party on what action, if any, is necessary in response.

    “The process is mindful to provide protection to the complainant and also procedural fairness to the subject of the complaint.

    “As such, no public comment is made during the course of any independent assessments.’’

    The process probably works about as well as their very strict procedure to make sure everyone’s citizenship paperwork is in line.

  90. None
    #2768993, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:03 am

    The ALP has an independent process for assessing complaints.

    Who gives a toss if they do. This is a workplace related matter and subject to federal and state laws and authorities.

  91. Dan Dare
    #2768994, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:06 am

    DG, next time take one of those good wooden door pillars.

  92. Boambee John
    #2768995, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Mater at 0842

    I take my hat off to him for being open minded and to continually critically assess the political situation as it evolves.

    If only the reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment, m0nty, could be so open minded.

    Not a hope though. He is incorrigible.

  93. H B Bear
    #2768996, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Cut and Paste today reveals the AWU after an audit revised it’s 2017 membership numbers to 69,786 down 17,420 or 20% from previous year.

    Little Peanut Head probably stacked some of those 17,420 as a spotty Senior Associate at Maurice Blackburne in between banging Nanny Roxon at Friday drinks, Young Labor camps and before his future had his little legs swinging under billionaire box thief’s Raheen dining table as the Aardvark of Beaconsfield.

    Definitely PM material. Super Saturday next weekend though and all that corruption and lies could all go up in smoke before he even gets another chance at the Lodge.

  94. Death Giraffe
    #2768997, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Oh, please.
    I have taught more rowdy classes than that shit last night.
    Kindagarten stuff.

  95. Boambee John
    #2769000, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:12 am

    None at 0853

    Everyone who attended should lodge a complaint. Intimidation, destruction of private property (attacking the bus) etc etc

    Indeed. Time to turn lawfare against the fascist left. Make the process their punishment.

  96. Baldrick
    #2769001, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:13 am

    Early days yet to know whether there’s any substance to the story, but even if true it’s a consensual relationship between two persons, of age, of the opposite sex and over 10 years before Fatty Trump became President.
    No wonder Leftards are confused.

    US President Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen secretly recorded a conversation with Mr Trump before the 2016 presidential election in which they discussed a potential payment to a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Mr Trump, the New York Times is reporting.
    The existence of a recording raises further questions about the tactics Mr Trump used to keep his personal and business life secret while he was seeking public office.
    The former model, Karen McDougal, said she began a nearly year-long affair with Mr Trump in 2006 shortly after his wife, Melania, gave birth to their son, Barron, the Times said.
    The White House has said Mr Trump denies having an affair with Ms McDougal and that he has denied having sex with Stormy Daniels.
    Ms McDougal sold her story to The National Enquirer for $202,000 during the final months of the presidential campaign but the tabloid sat on the story, preventing it from becoming public, the Times said.

    Via TheirABC, naturally.

  97. Old School Conservative
    #2769002, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:16 am

    None
    #2768963, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:10 am
    Every time there is a new revelation about the sex predator racket at Cromer High I am gobsmacked.

    Ditto.
    Strong indications this practice was not limited to Cromer High, but endemic on the Northern Beaches.
    The only “disciplinary action” I have read about was a Principal’s refusal to provide a reference to an alleged predator.
    Moving problem teachers to another state high school rings a bell – are the critics of Catholic hierarchies up in arms about state school bureaucrats too? Nup.

  98. Boambee John
    #2769003, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:16 am

    DG

    The point is not whether you were hurt or not.

    The point is that these pricks will continue to behave like the petty fascists they are until the behaviour causes them pain. Just like the kids you once taught.

  99. Death Giraffe
    #2769004, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:17 am

    The guy running on stage in a wig and getting tackled was great.
    Some genuinely funny shit last night.
    The amusing part was they must have paid to get in.
    One silly trollope, having paid her $100, and listened to half the presentation, took her flag out, blurted out a three word slogan, and was whisked off by security in about one second flat. To the delight of the audience.
    That is effective protest!

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769005, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:18 am

    If only the reactionary lackey and hyena of the fascist left establishment, m0nty, could be so open minded.

    FIFY

  101. dover_beach
    #2769006, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:19 am

    It tells you everything about the present situation that the Vic government is happy to charge Southern for protection from their own voteherd, when there is a law preventing anyone from standing within 150m of an abortuary and praying or handing out leaflets.

  102. Tel
    #2769007, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:19 am

    I have taught more rowdy classes than that shit last night.
    Kindagarten stuff.

    Did you ask for $60k per day to cover expenses?

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769008, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:25 am

    Inheritance tax on list of union demands for Bill Shorten
    Sheradyn Holderhead, National Political Reporter, The Daily Telegraph
    July 20, 2018 10:00pm
    Subscriber only

    POWERFUL union leaders are calling for Bill Shorten to introduce a death tax in their latest demand ahead of the federal election.

    The call for a new tax on children who inherit cash and property when their parents die comes after the Australian Council of Trade Unions pressured Mr Shorten to announce he would stop turning back people-smuggling boats and end offshore detention if Labor wins government.

    The Saturday Telegraph can today reveal the ACTU this week agreed to a plan to push for an inheritance tax, which was abolished in Australia almost 40 years ago.

    “An inheritance tax on the wealthiest estates can restore fairness to our tax system and ensure the very wealthy and big business pay tax,” an ACTU spokesman told The Saturday Telegraph.

    In a policy document signed off by ACTU members this week it states: “Consideration should be given to taxing inheritances in the hands of the beneficiary.

  104. EvilElvis
    #2769009, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:32 am

    particularly those in Sydney and Melbourne, are extremely annoyed by the urban pressures they are experiencing as a result of rapid population growth.

    Don’t worry Judith, the ‘urban pressures’ are being pushed into the regions too.

  105. Stimpson J. Cat
    #2769010, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Ben Shapiro
    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    I think @JamesGunn is an a**hole, as my exchange with him earlier this week made clear. I also think that firing him for vile old joke tweets is bad precedent and a mistake. There is no limiting principle to the outrage mob.

  106. mh
    #2769011, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:32 am

    ‘Powerful Forces’ Are Trying To Undermine U.S.-Russia Relations

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-W1tVnkfi-Q

  107. dover_beach
    #2769012, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Amusing to see monty on the OOT argue that populist nationalism is not popular in the US after it won 302-227 victory in the electoral college.

  108. Geriatric Mayfly
    #2769013, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:33 am

    In a policy document signed off by ACTU members this week it states: “Consideration should be given to taxing inheritances in the hands of the beneficiary.

    One foot in the grave for wee Willie.

  109. H B Bear
    #2769014, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:35 am

    Liars getting ahead of themselves. Peanut Head could very well be looking for a new job this time next Sunday.

  110. Death Giraffe
    #2769016, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:37 am

    Peanut Head could very well be looking for a new job this time next Sunday.

    ..
    Doesn’t need to.
    He will just spend more time running his international thunderbirds- style mine rescue organisation.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat
    #2769017, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:39 am

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸
    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸
    @Cernovich
    Sorry haters, my only boss is about 18 months old and all she cares about is that I read to her every night.

  112. Entropy
    #2769018, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:41 am

    I wonder what the typical rank and file union member thinks of an ACTU plan to tax the inheritance they will receive when their parents drop off the twig?

    Is anyone left at all in the head offices of unions or the ACTU that once worked on the shop floor alongside the people that pay their union dues?

  113. None
    #2769019, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:43 am

    The Saturday Telegraph can today reveal the ACTU this week agreed to a plan to push for an inheritance tax, which was abolished in Australia almost 40 years ago.

    “An inheritance tax on the wealthiest estates can restore fairness to our tax system and ensure the very wealthy and big business pay tax,” an ACTU spokesman told The Saturday Telegraph.

    In a policy document signed off by ACTU members this week it states: “Consideration should be given to taxing inheritances in the hands of the beneficiary.

    They just handed Turnbull the election. Death taxes literally killed people and made them homeless. Like farmers and farm families. If the Labor party had any sense they’d cut all tiesto the union movement bu they won’t. Remember unionists who represent (cough) about 10% of workers (so maybe 5% of Australians) determine Labor party policy, not Labor party or the people. Fascists.

  114. Shy Ted
    #2769020, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:46 am

    New autocue reader on GayBC24, trying to outgay all the other gays. He’s also an older, white male. How did he get on the GayBC with a score of only 1 out of 4 PC points?

  115. Stimpson J. Cat
    #2769021, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:46 am

    Arky can you still make welding videos after the Hippy attack?

    Also was Lauren wearing this?

  116. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769022, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Is anyone left at all in the head offices of unions or the ACTU that once worked on the shop floor alongside the people that pay their union dues?

    No, the career path these days is leaving Uni with a degree in Industrial Relations or law, a spell in the ACTU head office, or a law firm such as Slugs and Grubs, and then a safe Labor seat.

  117. None
    #2769023, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Death Giraffe
    #2768997, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Oh, please.
    I have taught more rowdy classes than that shit last night.
    Kindagarten stuff.

    Kindergarten.
    Sorry Arky but if you won’t make a complaint, that embolden such punks to shove knives into faces of people like me. This is why broken window policing works. It’s too late to regain control when they are rampaging through the streets.

  118. OldOzzie
    #2769024, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:50 am

    WSJ – Opinion Potomac Watch

    Brennan and the 2016 Spy Scandal

    Obama’s CIA director acknowledges egging on the FBI’s probe of Trump and Russia.


    By Kimberley A. Strassel

    The Trump-Russia sleuthers have been back in the news, again giving Americans cause to doubt their claims of nonpartisanship. Last week it was Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Peter Strzok testifying to Congress that he harbored no bias against a president he still describes as “horrible” and “disgusting.” This week it was former FBI Director Jim Comey tweet-lecturing Americans on their duty to vote Democratic in November.

    But the man who deserves a belated bit of scrutiny is former Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan. He’s accused President Trump of “venality, moral turpitude and political corruption,” and berated GOP investigations of the FBI. This week he claimed on Twitter that Mr. Trump’s press conference in Helsinki was “nothing short of treasonous.” This is rough stuff, even for an Obama partisan.

    That’s what Mr. Brennan is—a partisan—and it is why his role in the 2016 scandal is in some ways more concerning than the FBI’s. Mr. Comey stands accused of flouting the rules, breaking the chain of command, abusing investigatory powers. Yet it seems far likelier that the FBI’s Trump investigation was a function of arrogance and overconfidence than some partisan plot. No such case can be made for Mr. Brennan. Before his nomination as CIA director, he served as a close Obama adviser. And the record shows he went on to use his position—as head of the most powerful spy agency in the world—to assist Hillary Clinton’s campaign (and keep his job).

    Mr. Brennan has taken credit for launching the Trump investigation. At a House Intelligence Committee hearing in May 2017, he explained that he became “aware of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons.” The CIA can’t investigate U.S. citizens, but he made sure that “every information and bit of intelligence” was “shared with the bureau,” meaning the FBI. This information, he said, “served as the basis for the FBI investigation.” My sources suggest Mr. Brennan was overstating his initial role, but either way, by his own testimony, he as an Obama-Clinton partisan was pushing information to the FBI and pressuring it to act.

    More notable, Mr. Brennan then took the lead on shaping the narrative that Russia was interfering in the election specifically to help Mr. Trump—which quickly evolved into the Trump-collusion narrative. Team Clinton was eager to make the claim, especially in light of the Democratic National Committee server hack. Numerous reports show Mr. Brennan aggressively pushing the same line internally. Their problem was that as of July 2016 even then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper didn’t buy it. He publicly refused to say who was responsible for the hack, or ascribe motivation. Mr. Brennan also couldn’t get the FBI to sign on to the view; the bureau continued to believe Russian cyberattacks were aimed at disrupting the U.S. political system generally, not aiding Mr. Trump.

    The CIA director couldn’t himself go public with his Clinton spin—he lacked the support of the intelligence community and had to be careful not to be seen interfering in U.S. politics. So what to do? He called Harry Reid. In a late August briefing, he told the Senate minority leader that Russia was trying to help Mr. Trump win the election, and that Trump advisers might be colluding with Russia. (Two years later, no public evidence has emerged to support such a claim.)

    But the truth was irrelevant. On cue, within a few days of the briefing, Mr. Reid wrote a letter to Mr. Comey, which of course immediately became public. “The evidence of a direct connection between the Russian government and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign continues to mount,” wrote Mr. Reid, going on to float Team Clinton’s Russians-are-helping-Trump theory. Mr. Reid publicly divulged at least one of the allegations contained in the infamous Steele dossier, insisting that the FBI use “every resource available to investigate this matter.”

    The Reid letter marked the first official blast of the Brennan-Clinton collusion narrative into the open. Clinton opposition-research firm Fusion GPS followed up by briefing its media allies about the dossier it had dropped off at the FBI. On Sept. 23, Yahoo News’s Michael Isikoff ran the headline: “U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin.” Voilà. Not only was the collusion narrative out there, but so was evidence that the FBI was investigating.

    In their recent book “Russian Roulette,” Mr. Isikoff and David Corn say even Mr. Reid believed Mr. Brennan had an “ulterior motive” with the briefing, and “concluded the CIA chief believed the public needed to know about the Russia operation, including the information about the possible links to the Trump campaign.” (Brennan allies have denied his aim was to leak damaging information.)

    Clinton supporters have a plausible case that Mr. Comey’s late-October announcement that the FBI had reopened its investigation into the candidate affected the election. But Trump supporters have a claim that the public outing of the collusion narrative and FBI investigation took a toll on their candidate. Politics was at the center of that outing, and Mr. Brennan was a ringmaster. Remember that when reading his next “treason” tweet.

  119. Mater
    #2769025, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:54 am

    Death taxes literally killed people and made them homeless. Like farmers and farm families.

    It was a large factor in forcing my family off the farm, and my father into a foundry.
    Perhaps that’s what they want.

  120. Some History
    #2769026, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:56 am

    C.L.
    #2768970, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:25 am
    “German national who may have been born abroad”
    A transsexual?

    Ha haaaa. Good one. 🙂

  121. calli
    #2769027, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Death taxes literally killed people and made them homeless. Like farmers and farm families.

    I’m sure Labor has a lot of offshore maaaaates waiting in the wings to buy up farms at distressed prices.

  122. Herodotus
    #2769028, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Labor needs to be very careful about flagging things like inheritance taxes and capital gains on principal residences (aka the family home) since it impacts their own base as well.

  123. Shy Ted
    #2769029, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Pressure is on as cities burst at the seams – Judith Sloan
    It is gradually dawning on Malcolm Turnbull…
    Why is the smartest guy in the room always last to the party?

  124. Herodotus
    #2769030, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Greens can promise anything since their voters are (a) nuts, (b) probably renting, and (c) have no money left after “lifestyle” expenses.

  125. Farmer Gez
    #2769031, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:03 am

    Inheritance taxes make lots of work for lawyer maaates.
    Taxes and multi beneficiary wills would be s gold mine.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769033, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Labor needs to be very careful about flagging things like inheritance taxes and capital gains on principal residences (aka the family home) since it impacts their own base as well.

    That was what happened in England – the threshold was originally set to affect the “wealthy”, but as house prices rose, and more and more people became affected, the wailing started.

  128. C.L.
    #2769034, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Troubled Vietnam veteran Bob Mueller has leaked news that he has illegally obtained tapes of a legal conversation between Trump and his lawyer about a hooker.

    Because Russia.
    It will, of course, lead nowhere.
    Poor old Bob.

  129. egg_
    #2769035, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Sinclair says you can say what you like here and he’ll protect you.
    For $68,000.

    Can I pay via Blocked Drain?

  130. None
    #2769036, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:07 am

    Herodotus

    #2769030, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Don’t be fooled. The average Green voter is iver 50 has a house and a rental, usually has a cushy overpaid public service job or is an exaec like y he former CEO of auspost. In other words champagne socialists like Adam Bandt with a few feral supporters just to give them street cred. You’ve seen how they react when some refugees move into their neighborhood. They cry Blue Murder.

  131. H B Bear
    #2769038, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:08 am

    Family farms flipped straight into IFS advised industry super funds.

    Maaaate.

  132. egg_
    #2769039, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:08 am

    Sorry.
    Scroll if you don’t like wood.
    from last thread.
    Subscribe, why not?

    Down and dirty car pr0n?

  133. candy
    #2769041, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:11 am

    Peanut Head could very well be looking for a new job this time next Sunday.

    Indeed. Bill Shorten is just too indebted to the ACTU. He might be done for.

    Albanese is a bit of a snake and Plibersek a left extremist (I mean a political wealthy elite posing as a left extremist who cares). Chris Bowen might be a better fit for the job. He seems quite a pleasant person, in a quiet way.

  134. egg_
    #2769042, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:11 am

    The average Green voter is iver 50 has a house and a rental, usually has a cushy overpaid public service job or is an exaec like y he former CEO of auspost. In other words champagne socialists like Adam Bandt with a few feral supporters just to give them street cred. You’ve seen how they react when some refugees move into their neighborhood. They cry Blue Murder.

    The Doctors’ Wives set.

  135. None
    #2769043, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:12 am

    That was what happened in England – the threshold was originally set to affect the “wealthy”, but as house prices rose, and more and more people became affected, the wailing started.

    If labour were in government and we’re introducing this now the lives would vote for it. I would vote for because it would give them and revenue stream in the future but I like her all the pain to the idiots who introduced it. Don’t trust the Lbs to oppose this – they are such utter mongrels but they probably want this too. One of the first things that Bjelke Peterson did was get rid of death duties. Don’t wonder why he ruled for nearly 20 years.

  136. stackja
    #2769044, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:14 am

    Young people asked to take STI test in exchange for entry to VIP area at Splendour in the Grass
    news.com.au
    an hour ago

    REVELLERS will be asked to take a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test this weekend in exchange for access to a VIP area at a Byron Bay music festival.

    Health authorities will provide Chlamydia testing for young people at Splendour in the Grass as part of the award-winning Down to Test program.

    Since the program launched last year, almost 2500 young people have provided a urine sample for testing, with 71 positive for chlamydia, a disease that can cause infertility if left untreated.

    “STI rates in Australia are rising, with the number of chlamydia cases almost doubling over the past decade, and those most affected are aged 15 to 29,” NSW Health’s STI Program Unit head Dr Chris Bourne said.

    “Music festivals present an opportunity to reach our target audience, raise awareness of STIs and reduce the stigma around testing. And results show this program is working.”

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769045, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:14 am

    They just handed Turnbull the election.

    Lord Waffles will throw away any advantage he may gain as a result – remember the Royal Commission into Union Corruption?

  138. None
    #2769046, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:14 am

    H B Bear

    #2769038, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:08 am

    I was just about to write something similar. You have to remember there is nothing about bear attacks because there’s nothing fair about tax. This is what’s in it for the unionists.

  139. None
    #2769047, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:15 am

    Fairer tax. …nothing fair about tax…

    Stupid phone

  140. stackja
    #2769048, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:16 am

    ear 12 teacher on a mission to bring back etiquette
    Janet Fife-Yeomans, The Daily Telegraph
    July 21, 2018 12:36am
    Subscriber only

    HIGH schoolteacher Michaela Launerts realised her students needed old-­fashioned skills as she saw social media taking over from social graces.

    “I couldn’t get over the confidence they have online, where they will post selfies, but they are not able to eat a sandwich in public because of fear of being judged,” the etiquette expert said.

  141. Anthony
    #2769049, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:16 am

    C.L.
    #2769034, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:06 am
    Troubled Vietnam veteran Bob Mueller has leaked news that he has illegally obtained tapes of a legal conversation between Trump and his lawyer about a hooker.

    Because Russia.
    It will, of course, lead nowhere.
    Poor old Bob.

    Trump handles these nonsensical leaks and attacks with the dismissive contempt they deserve. He must really be doing their heads in. History will not treat Mule-er well. And there is no way out for him now. The Don may never pull the plug on such a productive avenue to drain the swamp.

  142. stackja
    #2769050, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Teenager fights for life after 11-storey Parramatta apartment fall
    HENRY LYNCH, The Daily Telegraph
    July 21, 2018 6:51am
    Subscriber only

    A TEENAGER is fighting for his life after falling from an eleven-storey apartment building in western Sydney overnight.

    At around 12.45am, emergency services received reports of a serious fall on George St, Parramatta.

    They arrived to find an 18-year-old had fallen from an apartment window onto a landing 10 metres below.

    A two-hour recovery operation was conducted to save the teenager, who suffered significant head injuries in the fall.

  143. None
    #2769051, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:17 am

    And the post above was supposed to read if Labor were in government and were introducing this now the Libd would vote for it.

  144. Tel
    #2769052, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:18 am

    Labor needs to be very careful about flagging things like inheritance taxes and capital gains on principal residences (aka the family home) since it impacts their own base as well.

    The union movement certainly has a plan to take over and destroy rural Australia. Not sure exactly why, maybe they just hate the National Party, or maybe they figure the cities have already been ransacked.

    There’s too many coincidental anti-farmer policies coming together:
    * Turning up the screws on inspections and mountains of regulation;
    * Takeover of volunteer groups like fire fighters;
    * Absolute ban on any new dams;
    * Constant agitation over safety;
    * Now we have inheritance tax.

    Put it together, the only conclusion is that the unions want to destroy farmers. There’s always been a squabble over who gets the spoils with Australian exports, the people who produce the goods, or the dockyard workers who can block shipments if they choose to. That part of it is an obvious zero sum game, and you can understand the process of self-interest everyone thinking about what they can get out of a situation. However, this is something else… when the farmers are destroyed there WON’T BE ANY SPOILS.

  145. stackja
    #2769053, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Exposed: Woman busted doing a poo outside Pyrmont bottle shop
    BRENDEN HILLS, The Sunday Telegraph
    July 20, 2018 9:34pm
    Subscriber only

    BOTTLE shop manager Phil Pembroke initially thought the mess that had been repeatedly deposited at the rear of his store was the work of a very large dog.

    But when a clue in the form of soiled toilet paper was left at the scene on Tuesday morning, he and the owner of Porter’s Liquor in Pyrmont checked the CCTV footage and got the shock of their lives.

    Just after 8am, a blonde woman dressed in activewear and a backpack was captured on their camera walking down the alleyway off Miller St to the rear of the store where she dropped her pants and unloaded a sizeable streak across the middle of their driveway.

    She then pulled out two pieces of toilet paper before leaving the all three bits of evidence at the scene.

  146. None
    #2769054, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:19 am

    You don’t fall from an apartment window not from the 11th floor one I miss you pushed out or you jump. Or are as high as a kite and think you’re Superman.

  147. Roger
    #2769055, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:20 am

    The bottom line is that the federal government has paid too much attention to property developers, universities, businesses and migrant lobby groups and too little attention to ordinary folk.

    Australia is now the second most popular destination for international students, overtaking the UK.

    The back door to permanent residency.

  148. Death Giraffe
    #2769056, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:20 am

    Since the program launched last year, almost 2500 young people have provided a urine sample for testing, with 71 positive for chlamydia,

    ..
    That is 3% of them walking around without knowing they are infected with a dirty disease.
    Filthy animals.
    Don’t sleep with anyone in this country without boiling them and wrapping them in five layers of gladwrap first.

  149. stackja
    #2769057, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Protesters rally against far-right commentator Lauren Southern in Broadmeadows
    Genevieve Alison and staff writers, Herald Sun
    17 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    UPDATE: VIOLENT protesters clashed with police and closed down a major highway outside an alt-right commentator’s Melbourne show on Friday night.

    More than 100 anti-racism protesters rallied outside La Mirage reception centre in Somerton, where Canadian YouTuber Lauren Southern began her Australian speaking tour.

    One man was arrested for assaulting a police officer and four others were kicked out of the venue. The officer sustained minor injuries.

    Victoria Police said they’re “disappointed” after calls for a peaceful demonstration were ignored.

    Commander Tim Hansen of North-West Metro said officers could have been used more effectively across Melbourne on a Friday night and it was disappointing they had to use “significant resources” to mediate between the groups.

    “Their actions put their lives, the lives of the public and the lives of police officers at risk,” he said.

    A security guard was also issued a penalty notice for carrying a controlled weapon.

    The Hume Hwy was blocked in both directions for more than two hours as the demonstration spilt on to the road in an attempt to block buses transporting people to the event.

    The riot squad, mounted police, dog squad and police air wing were called in to hold back the crowd as they charged at the bus.

  151. Snoopy
    #2769059, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Troubled Vietnam veteran Bob Mueller has leaked news briefed failing DNC media outlet, the New York Times, that he has illegally obtained tapes of a legal conversation between Trump and his lawyer about a hooker.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769060, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Sinclair says you can say what you like here and he’ll protect you.
    For $68,000.

    I was thinking the organisers could’ve hired the Rebels bikie gang for a lot less than that. More effective deterrent too. Surely the Rebels or another bunch would have enough members with security guard tickets to do it legally.

    Also it would explode the heads of both the Antifa fascists and Vicplod, with a very likely similar effect upon Dan the Unions’ Man. The squawking would be most entertaining.

    Note to Vicplod, I use the word “exploding” in the metaphoric sense just in case you are monitoring, since the thugs of the left seem not to be taking all your time up.

  153. None
    #2769061, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Commander Tim Hansen is a liar. There was no need to mediate between any groups there were no groups accept the antifa crowd attacking peaceful citizens lawfully going about their business. He’s doing the equivalent of victim blaming. I’ll say it again Victoria Police Chiefs are corrupt.

  154. Neil
    #2769062, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:25 am

    The back door to permanent residency.

    Yes that is where the bulk of so-called asylum seekers who fly in come from. They come here on a student visa and before their visa expires they apply for asylum by saying they will be persecuted if they fly home.

  155. Tel
    #2769063, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Just after 8am, a blonde woman dressed in activewear and a backpack was captured on their camera walking down the alleyway off Miller St to the rear of the store where she dropped her pants and unloaded a sizeable streak across the middle of their driveway.

    There you go. Proof that there are at least a few Australians left who still give a shit.

  156. stackja
    #2769064, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Twin babies allegedly assaulted on Gold Coast despite being watched by Child Safety
    Paul Weston and Chris McMahon, Gold Coast Bulletin
    July 21, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    POLICE are investigating the alleged assaults of twin babies whose parents were under the watch of Child Safety.

    One of the twins is in intensive care with severe head injuries. Earlier this week the baby was on life support.

    The second twin also suffered injuries.

    The first child is expected to live but will suffer major health challenges. The other child’s injuries are less serious.

  157. Some History
    #2769065, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:27 am

    REVELLERS will be asked to take a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test this weekend in exchange for access to a VIP area at a Byron Bay music festival.

    … access to a VIP area where they can undergo a more extensive range of medical testing. A music festival has been turned into a medical outpost. Maybe revellers could drop some stool samples a la San Francisco.

    Why not offer some STI testing for the feral protesters at the next Lauren Southern event?

  158. Winston Smith
    #2769066, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:33 am

    ZK2A;

    I’m resigned to at least two terms of a Shorten/Plibersek Government, in coalition with the Greens. The boat traffic will resume five days after the inauguration, there will be a wealth tax, death duties, and all the other trappings of the “politics of envy”, and, by the end of the second term, Australia will resemble such economic powerhouses as Zimbabwe and Venezuela, and no government willing to take the strong steps to rebuild the economy will ever be elected.

    Australia is like a drunk who refuses to admit their problem – you have to let them wake up in a gutter, covered in shit, blood, and vomit, before any meaningful attempt at rehabilitation is attempted.
    All else is bandaids over an amputated stump – the application may have some benefit, in virtue signalling terms, to the applicator, but has no earthly effect on fixing the problem.

  159. stackja
    #2769067, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Addiction in Australia: Why the ‘Just Say No’ message is not getting through
    SARAH KEOGHAN, The Daily Telegraph
    July 21, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    ‘JUST say no.” It’s a sentiment heard commonly inside the walls of dimly lit high school classrooms or on our television screens, closely followed by a quickly spoken, “authorised by the Australian Government, Canberra”.

    It’s a hard message for most young adults to digest when the discourse of sex, alcohol and drugs is opened in our schools and at the dinner table, especially when the message comes from preaching teachers and parents who have most likely engaged in one or all of these at some point in their lives.

    It’s also proven to be totally ineffective.

    According to Matt Noffs, who operates the Noffs Foundation — Australia’s largest drug and alcohol treatment service provider for young people under 25 — this idea of telling kids “no” and hoping for the best is creating more harm than good.

    “We see in the US a system of abstinence-based sex-ed, telling kids to not have sex, which is totally ridiculous, and they have one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in the Western world,” he says.

    “In France you see they have sex-ed based on pleasure and how you please your partner, and saying this is a part of life and will be a part of your life, and they have some of the lowest pregnancy rates.”

  160. None
    #2769068, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:34 am

    That was amusing for you inside DG, but there were people outside intending to do harm, blocking traffic, intimidating people and disregarding other people’s property. I understand that you have the Macho Man image to defend but as others have pointed out someone has to make them move to stop these fools before someone gets killed.

  161. Roger
    #2769069, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:35 am

    Commander Tim Hansen is a liar.

    Note those words aren’t in inverted commas.

    Could be journalistic license for ease of story telling.

    (I would trust “reporters” even less than VicPol.)

  162. stackja
    #2769070, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Where you live will reveal what’s striking you down with illness
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    July 21, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    YOU could be forgiven for thinking that your health had nothing to do with where you sleep but your postcode could determine why you feel poorly — and what you’re sick with.

    It means that you are more likely to have asthma in the Blue Mountains, dementia in the eastern suburbs, tummy bugs in the city’s west or a sexually transmitted infection on the Central Coast.

    Health experts say hidden health clusters are developing across the city.

  163. stackja
    #2769071, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:37 am

    Celebrity bikie link to Rolex rebirthing racket in Bondi
    MARK MORRI, The Daily Telegraph
    July 20, 2018 1:24pm
    Subscriber only

    POLICE have raided a high end watch store connected to celebrity bikie associate Mark Judge where they have seized millions of dollars worth of “rebirthed” Rolex watches and large sums of cash.

    Judge, a former associate of the Rebels bikie club, allegedly sold the watches priced anywhere from $20,000 to over $100,000 from a store in Westfields at Bondi Junction.

  164. rickw
    #2769072, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:38 am

    A security guard was also issued a penalty notice for carrying a controlled weapon.

    The one bloke most likely to do something useful.

  165. None
    #2769073, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:40 am

    “We see in the US a system of abstinence-based sex-ed, telling kids to not have sex, which is totally ridiculous, and they have one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in the Western world,” he says.

    And we have one of the lowest in the Western world in fact in the entire world. The high teen pregnancy rate in the US is due to the high numbers of black teenager pregnancies and that itself is in fact the outcome of 60 years of leftist social policy which has utterly destroyed the black American family. Plus the entire planned parenthood abortion clinic model is geared around getting young women pregnant so that they can get an abortion – remember abortion is a business – and in America it is black babies who are overwhelmingly killed by abortion. A holistic sex education like the ABC program in Uganda is effective and as it is, a lot of millennials are waiting later and later to have sex -early to mid twenties – and good on them. Ideally they should not have sex until they get married and they should not have children until after they get married and they should not get married unless they have a job. Those three things will maximize your chances of having a successful life. Not rocket science – we have had generations of human experience to know what works.

  166. Atoms for Peace
    #2769074, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:41 am

    We have a hundreds of valuation files from the 50s and 60 which had to be prepared to determine death duties. Central Queensland context. They make for very sad reading when you look at what had to be valued.
    If Turnbull does not crucify the ALP for being the Party of Death Duties, he should exit stage left and let someone else be PM.

  167. None
    #2769075, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:44 am

    The one bloke most likely to do something useful.

    Exactly what I thought and I’m hoping that that was intentional for example he was carrying a firearm. Good. I hope the organisers pay the penalty for him if he doesn’t choose to appeal it but I think he should have feel it first.

  168. None
    #2769076, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:47 am

    It means that you are more likely to have asthma in the Blue Mountains, dementia in the eastern suburbs, tummy bugs in the city’s west or a sexually transmitted infection on the Central Coast.

    which is why they now wants you to have an STI test to go to a Central Coast Music Festival.

  169. Snoopy
    #2769077, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:48 am

    A security guard was also issued a penalty notice for carrying a controlled weapon.

    Where’s the ACCC?

  170. Mater
    #2769078, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:48 am

    I understand that you have the Macho Man image to defend but as others have pointed out someone has to make them move to stop these fools before someone gets killed.

    None,
    Trying to find the responsible people and push a charge would be like trying to catch and bottle smoke.
    The police were clearly watching and able to see what was going on. If action was going to be taken, it should have been done immediately last night by the authorities.
    Please don’t hound Death Giraffe. He was ropable as we made it to safety and he let the police know, in no uncertain terms, how disappointed he was by their lack of action.
    The situation is very sad but his view is also very pragmatic.

  171. Serena at the Pub
    #2769079, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:49 am

    Protestors spilled onto the Hume Highway & caused it to be closed for 2 hrs eh?
    Had I been in charge of the coppers on the scene I’d have driven a steamroller down the highway.
    “Road now open, motorists are advised to drive carefully due to slippery section adjacent the Somerton Hotel.”

  172. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769080, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:51 am

    Exposed: Woman busted doing a poo outside Pyrmont bottle shop

    Ben Fordham was having fun with this on 2GB yesterday. He explained that when the poo jogger in Brisbane was busted he’d decided it was too much in bad taste to cover. But ratings for the story were insanely insane so this time they had to cover this er, lady.

    He then said they’ve never had so many hits on the 2GB website for a story than for this bottle shop bog bandit.

    I love bogan Aussies. Bogans like bogger jogger stories. Including me. It was fine anaesthetic for a Cat forced to drive through Sinny on a Friday afternoon.

  173. None
    #2769081, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Yes perhaps Rodger I see that the commander was merely “disappointed” that the protesters didn’t hold hands and sing Kumbaya even though they ask them nicely.

  174. cohenite
    #2769083, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:53 am

    From comments it appears Miss Southern is entitled to a refund or a drastic reduction in the fee for police protection.

  176. Some History
    #2769085, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Why not offer some STI testing for the feral protesters at the next Lauren Southern event?

    And a free psychiatric evaluation.

  177. Snoopy
    #2769086, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:55 am

    San Francisco is one of Sydney’s sister cities. Inspired choice.

  178. flyingduk
    #2769087, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:58 am

    I am a single mum with three children, working hard and doing my best.

    I might be slow but can someone explain to me exactly what a single mother is? I know what a widow is, but for the life of me I can’t get my head around the concept of the ‘single mother’.

  179. None
    #2769088, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:58 am

    Responsible journalists however would take all the video where all the feral lefty perpetrators are clearly shown and plaster it on their websites and ask thwir readers to identify them and organise some sort of Tar And Feather show as well as getting them dobbed in. Encourage people to take control and then when the police fail to charge the people they’ve identified and the politicians complain they will also have more incentive to vote the fuckwits out. Although we are talking Victoria where everybody is comatose.

  180. None
    #2769089, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:58 am

    A mother who’s not married.

  181. Some History
    #2769090, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:59 am

    San Francisco is one of Sydney’s sister cities. Inspired choice.

    San Francisco squatters. The San Fran squat.

  182. mh
    #2769092, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:00 am

    Exposed: Woman busted doing a poo outside Pyrmont bottle shop

    Maybe she was making a statement about the bottle shop not supplying bags.

  183. calli
    #2769093, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:01 am

    None, your phone is the best thing that’s happened to this blog since Fred Lenin had his eyesight restored.

    I know what you’re saying but the journey to understanding is half the fun.

    Please don’t take a hammer to it.
    😃

  184. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769094, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:01 am

    For enlightened sensitive Cats, here’s the 2GB story.

    Oh crap! This bogger jogger is on the run

  185. calli
    #2769095, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:06 am

    VIOLENT protesters clashed with police and closed down a major highway outside an alt-right commentator’s Melbourne show on Friday night.

    Yet the catchcry was “Love not hate”.

    Perhaps it was selective.

  186. Roger
    #2769096, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:08 am

    The police were clearly watching and able to see what was going on. If action was going to be taken, it should have been done immediately last night by the authorities.

    Speaking of the judicious application of VicPol resources:

    Given that the protesters were Trotskyites dedicated to violently overthrowing our government why were the VicPol Security Intelligence Group not in attendance to at least photograph them, if not arrest them?

    Oh for the bad old days of the Special Branches, “rough men ready in the night to do violence to those who would do us harm”.

  187. dover_beach
    #2769097, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Yet the catchcry was “Love not hate”.

    Everything they disagree with is ‘hate’.

  188. Geriatric Mayfly
    #2769098, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:11 am

    I might be slow but can someone explain to me exactly what a single mother is? for the life of me I can’t get my head around the concept of the ‘single mother’.

    You will have to go back about 20 years or more. The ‘single mother’ was the cause célèbre of the feminist
    covens; living martyrs who had come among us. These days they have faded from the top of the charts. I imagine the hectoring feminist screeching ‘Abort, abort,’ as being the likely cause.

  189. Roger
    #2769099, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:13 am

    The police were clearly watching and able to see what was going on. If action was going to be taken, it should have been done immediately last night by the authorities.

    The protesters were Trotskyites dedicated to violent revolution.

    Where was the SIG to at least photograph them, if not arrest them?

    Undeterred, they will be back to harass law abiding members of the public.

    Oh for the bad old days of the Special Branches, “rough men ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm”.

  190. Boambee John
    #2769100, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:13 am

    calli
    #2769027, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:00 am
    Death taxes literally killed people and made them homeless. Like farmers and farm families.

    I’m sure Labor has a lot of offshore maaaaates waiting in the wings to buy up farms at distressed prices.

    Not offshore maaaates, industry super funds with Labor (without U) hacks on the board.

  191. Roger
    #2769101, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:15 am

    The police were clearly watching and able to see what was going on. If action was going to be taken, it should have been done immediately last night by the authorities.

    These were Trotskyites…where was the SIG to at least photograph them, if not arrest them?

  192. stackja
    #2769102, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:17 am

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2769098, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:11 am
    I might be slow but can someone explain to me exactly what a single mother is? for the life of me I can’t get my head around the concept of the ‘single mother’.

    You will have to go back about 20 years or more. The ‘single mother’ was the cause célèbre of the feminist
    covens; living martyrs who had come among us. These days they have faded from the top of the charts. I imagine the hectoring feminist screeching ‘Abort, abort,’ as being the likely cause.

    Bill Hayden introduced the country’s first single mother’s pension.

  193. Rae
    #2769104, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:30 am

    industry super funds with Labor (without U) hacks on the board

    the latest scorecard for superannuation fund performance has been released, and once again, industry funds leave the “retail” funds owned by banks and AMP in the shade.

    The top 10 funds, over whatever period you choose, whether it be one month, one year, five years, 10 years, or 15 years, are from the not for profit sector, which is dominated by industry funds.

    It’s been like that since compulsory superannuation was introduced by the Keating Labor government in 1992.

    That’s more than a quarter of a century of evidence that industry funds provide their members with better retirement outcomes than the bank and AMP-owned funds.

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769105, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Wasn’t Rae one of the smitten?

  195. Boambee John
    #2769106, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Mater and Death Giraffe

    Please don’t hound Death Giraffe. He was ropable as we made it to safety and he let the police know, in no uncertain terms, how disappointed he was by their lack of action.

    Point taken. Apologies to DG for my earlier comments.

  196. Infidel Tiger
    #2769107, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:33 am

    One of the greatest lies ever told is that we have more purchasing power than ever and that inflation is under control:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AEI/status/1019971419063627777/photo/1

    We have been completely conned. Real unemployment is a national tragedy and inflation is running riot.

  197. cohenite
    #2769108, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:36 am

    The source of the power from which vicpol are going to charge Miss Southern is the VICTORIA POLICE (FEES AND CHARGES) REGULATIONS 2014

    The current value of a fee unit is a mystery.

  198. m0nty
    #2769109, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:38 am

    We have been completely conned. Real unemployment is a national tragedy and inflation is running riot.

    Bird, what did you do with the real IT.

  199. Boambee John
    #2769110, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:39 am

    It’s baaaack!

    Scrollin’, scrollin’, scrollin’.

  200. Dr Fred Lenin
    #2769111, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:39 am

    So the Royal pretenders didn’t meet Trump ,unlike the real royal the queen who did ,if it had been hilarity Charlie and his sons would have been all over her ,trying to find ways of giving her other peoples money for her slush fund . Jug ears Charlie has always been a dickhead and the fruit hasn’t fallen far from the tree,the boys mum was out of her tree too so it’s hardly surprising they are following in dads footsteps . When the Queen eventually passes on ,Charlie the third will destroy the monarchy like Charlie the first did . The only reason they got back in was the death of Cromwell and lack of a successor ,the first thing the bastards did was exhume Cromwell and mutilate his body,that’s how vicious they were , cowards . I would like to hear nominations for the zfirst President of the Peoples Decromatic Republic of Invadia(formerly Australia . )
    A province of the Untidy Nayshuns Decromatic Global Cronyist Republic of Marxia( formerly the world or earth)

  201. Myrddin Seren
    #2769112, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:39 am

    First – the plastic bags.

    Then – drinking straws.

    And disposable coffee cups.

    In the near-future – you will be guilt-shamed and then regulated for buying clothes.

    Lifeline pops up at Splendour in the Grass with retro, vintage clothing and a fashion message

    Mr Fox said Lifeline also played an important role in the war against waste, particularly the war on fast fashion.

    The War on Fast Fashion. A crusade for our times.

    …the partnership had been organised partly to raise awareness in students around the issue of fast fashion.

    That is a toxically dangerous mentality, so I wanted to do what I could and apply our creative talents here towards Lifeline to change the youth perception on vintage fashion through Lifeline.

    “I wanted students to become aware of the impact of the type of lifestyle they plan — or would live in the future — so we teamed up to draw focus on that in a major project.”

    Note also the sidebar articles and the ABC ‘War on Waste’ footer – as the ever-neutral TheirABC crusades against consumption and choice with your tax dollars.

    A not-too-distant future look. You will travel to the AustGov distribution centre with your containers to collect your food rations – todays menu: Soylent Green or Soylent Brown. Bring your own mug and you may be allowed to purchase a hot beverage on the special occasion which is collecting your semi-annual clothing ration. Think sustainable Mao-suits.

    #ClothingJustice.

    Remember – you heard it here first.

  202. Gab
    #2769113, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:39 am

    What a shame Death Giraffe didn’t return the elbowing to the stupid “protester”. THEN we’d have seen some police action and we’d be doing a whip-around to bail Death Giraffe today.

  203. m0nty
    #2769114, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:40 am

    Troubled Vietnam veteran Bob Mueller has leaked news that he has illegally obtained tapes of a legal conversation between Trump and his lawyer about a hooker.

  204. stackja
    #2769115, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:40 am

    Most of our early childhood memories are fictional. This isn’t our fault. Scientists are fairly certain that we are incapable of forming long-term memories before age three. This doesn’t, however, stop us from conjuring mental snapshots of infancy. A new study analyzes why so many of us think we have such memories. Researchers asked more than 6,000 volunteers to describe their earliest memories and found that nearly 40 percent claimed to remember events from age two or younger. Interestingly, all of these memories fall into a handful of predictable categories.

  205. Winston Smith
    #2769116, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:43 am

    Arky:

    Lodge a complaint with the police for assault. Do it for no other reason than to send a message that you should not be copping an elbow or a shoulder in order to go listen to someone speak. Everyone who attended should lodge a complaint. Intimidation, destruction of private property (attacking the bus) etc etc

    Get one of these, put it on a lanyard, wear it when you go to rallies etc, and when make your complaint. When you get home, transcribe the conversation. Use it as part of your campaign for justice against the fascists.
    Remember “My voice identifies me.”

  208. cohenite
    #2769119, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:47 am

    All of Cohen’s material was covered by privilege. It’s tainted. I love the reporting of this latest gotcha being drooled over by the resident creep, which has been hysterical rubbish as usual with zero relevance to Mueller’s wussia collusion pixie quest. Giuliani sums it up:

    Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani confirmed to The Times that Trump discussed payments to McDougal with Cohen, but he said that ultimately no payment was made. Giuliani said the recording was less than two minutes long, and that there was no indication based on it that Trump knew of the payment to American Media Inc. beforehand.

    “Nothing in that conversation suggests that he had any knowledge of it in advance,” Giuliani told the newspaper of the payment to American Media Inc. Giuliani added that Trump told Cohen that if he did pay McDougal, it should be in the form of a check instead of cash so that it could be properly recorded, The Times said.

    “In the big scheme of things, it’s powerful exculpatory evidence,” Giuliani said.

  209. cohenite
    #2769121, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:50 am

    Winston Smith

    #2769117, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:44 am

    Bloody ‘ell.
    One of these.

    So, that’s a mini microphone and recorder?

  210. stackja
    #2769122, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:52 am

    History reports Germany had Assault Divisions whose methods of violent intimidation were a feature.

  211. rickw
    #2769123, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:52 am

    #ClothingJustice.

    Blue overalls for everyone, those who are women or who identify as women get to wear a red sash.

  212. m0nty
    #2769124, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:54 am

    All of Cohen’s material was covered by privilege.

    Not if a crime was being committed.

  213. rickw
    #2769125, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:58 am

    The police were clearly watching and able to see what was going on. If action was going to be taken, it should have been done immediately last night by the authorities.

    Next time Mater and Death Giraffe go to an event, I’m coming along.

  214. amortiser
    #2769126, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:59 am

    Bill Hayden introduced the country’s first single mother’s pension.

    Actually he didn’t. Prior to Bill Hayden’s socially destructive legislation, the states made payments to single mothers and these were quite modest. Then Hayden got cracking, enthusiastically supported by the Liberals.

    After the passing of the 1974 legislation, the estimated number of recipients in the first year was approx. 12500. From federation to 1974 this major social problem amounted to 12500. The rates were generously increased and at the end of the first year actual numbers were over 20000. It was not long before those numbers increased to more than 200000.

    According to Hayden in his speech introducing the legislation that the major beneficiaries would be the children. Hear, hear!! Cried the Liberals.

    So what was a relatively minor problem dealt with by the states and charitable instructions has now become a scourge on the community. Lionel Murphy’s Family Law Act was another major contributor to this appalling situation.

  215. H B Bear
    #2769127, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    Australia is now the second most popular destination for international students, overtaking the UK.
    The back door to permanent residency.

    Careful Roger, Sinc gets a bit sensitive when you point out that unis are just a front for the population Ponzi.

  216. JC
    #2769128, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    Monster

    D-cup was looking for blackmail money. How does the victim of a blackmail attempt get into trouble? It’s the other way around you fat idiot.

  217. Boambee John
    #2769129, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    m0nty
    #2769124, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:54 am
    All of Cohen’s material was covered by privilege.

    Not if a crime was being committed

    Not sure if Bill and Shrillary will be all that keen on this precedent.

  218. cohenite
    #2769130, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    More good news the media germs aren’t reporting:

    CCW #292: The True 97 Percent Consensus: Congress Delivers Another Carbon Dioxide Tax Beat-Down
    Mid-morning on July 19, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution stating a tax on carbon dioxide would be detrimental to the U.S. economy. Only six out of 236 House Republicans voted against the resolution, marking 97 percent support for the resolution among House Republicans. Seven Democrats also voted to approve the resolution.
    Republican congressional leaders, tired of “swamp creatures” and the mainstream media proclaiming growing Republican support for a tax on carbon dioxide emissions, decided to schedule the vote this week. The near-unanimous Republican support for the resolution obliterated the media’s narrative Republicans quietly support such a tax. This week’s vote reinforces the message of the House vote in late 2016, in which every single Republican and some moderate Democrats approved a resolution opposing the tax.
    Leading up to the vote, the media fawned over liberal Republican has-beens Jim Baker, George Schultz, and Hank Paulson—none of whom is in Congress or any other position of power—for supporting a carbon dioxide tax. Of course, these Bush-era establishment figures supported the tax in 2016 also. A lot of good that accomplished.
    The media also fawned over former Republican congressman Bob Inglis and soon-to-be former Rep. Mark Sanford for supporting carbon dioxide limits. Inglis, of course, is a former Republican congressman because he won less than 30 percent of the vote in his 2010 Republican primary despite being an incumbent. His global warming activism played a major role in his getting trounced in the primary election. Incumbent Mark Sanford just lost his primary challenge, too, largely for the same reason.
    Republicans who support global warming activism curry temporary favor with the liberal media. Media favor quickly disappears however, once they face a Democrat in a general election. Not that many ever get a chance to put their ephemeral media support to a general-election test. Inglis and Sanford can attest to that. In short, Republican primary voters see through alarmist global warming claims and turn out in droves against Republican congressional candidates who support carbon dioxide taxes.

  219. BorisG
    #2769131, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Not sure if Bill and Shrillary will be all that keen on this precedent.

    Good.

  220. Myrddin Seren
    #2769132, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Next time Mater and Death Giraffe go to an event, I’m coming along.

    You ex-military types need to study some traditional methods for dealing with the likes of the Black Bloc before sallying in to the next picket line.

  221. Shy Ted
    #2769134, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    Young people asked to take STI test in exchange for entry to VIP area because of Secretions in the Grass. FIFY.

  222. testpattern
    #2769135, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    ‘Protesters rally against far-right commentator Lauren Southern’

    Snow White and the Seven Boers vs Hansel and Gretel racist meme hunters!

  224. H B Bear
    #2769138, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    You need an STI to get into the VIP area?

    Figures.

  225. stackja
    #2769140, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    amortiser
    #2769126, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:59 am

    Gough’s legacy continue.

  226. Rae
    #2769141, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    Remember “My voice identifies me.”

    But not from one of those.

  227. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769143, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    One of the greatest lies ever told is that we have more purchasing power than ever and that inflation is under control

    Infi – The explanation of that graph is very simple.
    Everything coloured red is controlled by the Left. (Like staff/kiddie ratios in child care.)
    Everything coloured blue is controlled by the Right. (Free market capitalism.)

    Thus inflation is a lefty responsibility.
    Don’t blame the right for what isn’t theirs.

  228. stackja
    #2769144, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    New York City’s Record Murder-Free Streak Ends After 12 Days

    By SARAH BEGLEY February 16, 2015
    An unusually long run of days without a murder in New York City ended Saturday just shy of two weeks.

    The New York Police Department believes this 12-day stretch was the longest without a homicide since the early ’90s, though last February saw a comparably long streak of 10 days.

  229. Baldrick
    #2769147, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    TheirABC running interference for Hollywood Leftard James Gunn …

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Disney fires Guardians of the Galaxy director for old tweets joking about rape, paedophilia

    Must have a very ABC sense of humour.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2769148, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    Gough’s legacy continue.

    I’m remembering some of the propaganda at the time – “Women will no longer have to stay in violent or abusive marriages – they can divorce with dignity, and be sure of an income for themselves and their children.”

  231. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769149, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    All of Cohen’s material was covered by privilege.

    Not if a crime was being committed.

    The ABC was gleefully going on about this story on their midday news just now.

    I am probably quite naïve about such things but I couldn’t work out what tapes covered by lawyer-client privilege about legal affairs of the heart have to do with Wussian collusion.
    It is really odd that Wussians seem to be the reason for all this seemingly unrelated dirt digging.

    As I said I could be quite naïve, in the same way that Mueller is a quite upstanding American patriot.

  232. Rae
    #2769152, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani confirmed to The Times that Trump discussed payments to McDougal with Cohen, but he said that ultimately no payment was made.

    Presumably, in the course of those discussions, it was decided to use Trumps publisher friend to buy Karen McDougals story and not publish it. What will be interesting is if that discussion is on the tapes or is otherwise provable. If so it will be evidence of conspiracy and probably electoral fraud.

    PS. None of the seized Cohen material is covered by privilege.

  233. Winston Smith
    #2769153, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    Cohenite:

    So, that’s a mini microphone and recorder?

    Yes. Just plug it into your computer/any USB socket to charge, shove it in a pocket and it records really well. I was pleasantly surprised by the reproduction quality of the file which you download to any media player on the computer.
    I have four of them which I take to appointments for doc etc mainly because my memory is shite and I need to make notes when I get home. Two of them are 4Gb and last for about 5 hours recording, and I also have 2 x 8Gb which I get about 24 hours out of. At the link, there are 64 Gb recorders for about $16.
    Check with regs about recording first. Most Australian States have a “one party must be aware of the recording process” I’m fairly sure you may not be allowed to record two people without their knowledge. But in cases like Arkys, transcribing the goings on to paper is equivalent to writing down a conversation immediately after as a memory aid.

  234. calli
    #2769155, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Blue overalls for everyone, those who are women or who identify as women get to wear a red sash.

    The boss wears a red bandanna. 🙃

  235. cohenite
    #2769156, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    All of Cohen’s material was covered by privilege.

    Not if a crime was being committed.

    Fathead, what was Cohen or Trump doing which was illegal?

    Mueller is on a gigantic fishing expedition. The collusion bullshit is gone so he is searching for anything to justify the corruption underpinning this charade.

    Privilege was designed as a barrier against the very thing mueller is doing. The Special Master appointed by the court has found most of Cohen’s files are not privileged, presumably as they don’t apply to Trump and the collusion issue.

    I can see that Cohen will follow Manafort where he will be charged for peripheral and pedantic offences which have nothing to do with the non-existent collusion issue.

    Mueller is state corruption at its worst. Only a complete shit would defend it.

  236. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769157, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    In the olde days Caesar’s wife had to be beyond reproach.
    These days Caesar has to be beyond reproach, and any wymminses in the equation get a free pass.
    Unless Caesar is named “Clinton”.
    The Tsar used to like being the custodian of the Roman meme.
    Before he was offed by lefties.
    Maybe that’s why Mueller thinks Wussians are involved.
    No six degree level link is to remain unexplored by his team of Dem lawyers.

  237. Ubique
    #2769158, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    One of the greatest lies ever told is that we have more purchasing power than ever and that inflation is under control:

    IT or Sinc, where can we find a similar graph for Australia? I do recall seeing one – everything done, controlled or regulated by Government reflected costs out of control, while everything subject to open competition showed falling real prices.

  238. incoherent rambler
    #2769159, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    some traditional methods

    Bugger traditional. How about about I bring my 2 stroke chain saw?
    Imagine what the Romans could have done with that!

  239. Serena at the Pub
    #2769160, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:40 pm

    Check with regs about recording first. Most Australian States have a “one party must be aware of the recording process” I’m fairly sure you may not be allowed to record two people without their knowledge.

    In Qld you may record any conversation to which you are a party – regardless of how many are in that conversation, you are not required to declare you are recording.
    You are not to affix or attach to a telephone. This does not prevent you from putting a phone on speaker (regardless of whether the other party is in Qld) and your recording device collects the ambient noise.

  240. calli
    #2769162, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    Unless Caesar is named “Clinton”.

    Or Kennedy.

    Is it an Irish thing? If so, O’bama gets a free pass too.

  241. cohenite
    #2769163, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    Incidentally mueller has now subpoenaed another whore:

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/20/robert-mueller-subpoenas-ex-manhattan-madam-kristin-davis/

    What an absolute gutter mueller is swimming in.

  242. incoherent rambler
    #2769164, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Someone else can bring the hedge trimmer (to discourage finger pointing).

  243. m0nty
    #2769165, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    D-cup was looking for blackmail money. How does the victim of a blackmail attempt get into trouble? It’s the other way around you fat idiot.

    It’s not just about Stormy any more, JC. The new one is Karen McDougal. Plus there’s probably Shera Bechard, who also got an abortion. A pattern is starting to form.

    Fathead, what was Cohen or Trump doing which was illegal?

    Campaign finance law and bank fraud to start with.

    The Special Master appointed by the court has found most of Cohen’s files are not privileged

    Hmm, let’s check on that…

    Adam Klasfeld @KlasfeldReports
    BREAKING:
    Special master overseeing Michael Cohen probe REJECTS more than a third of his legal team’s assertions of attorney-client privilege.
    Of 4,085 items designated privileged by Team Cohen, Judge Jones finds that 1,452 are not.

    Reminder: The FBI seized millions of files from Cohen. Those even claimed to be privileged here represent a vanishingly small percentage here, and a significant number of those assertions were overruled – unclear from this document on what grounds.

    So you are straight up lying again, cohenite. Hard to believe anything you state as fact.

  244. m0nty
    #2769166, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    What an absolute gutter mueller is swimming in.

    I believe the operative term is “swamp”. You have to go to the swamp to slay the swamp monster.

  245. JC
    #2769167, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    Serena

    Why are you so knowledgeable about recording people in QLD? For what purpose? Lastly, how does figure in the discussion about the Cohen tapes made in NY?

  246. JC
    #2769168, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Monst

    Is there anyone in the world who’s wired to the internet with an interest in the US political doesn’t know or suspected Trump banged a lot of women before the election?

    Stop this nonsense as it’s really making you look deranged. The only problem I see is that he went really down market with that trailer trash .. Dcup. For that alone he should be impeached.

    Otherwise all good.

  247. cohenite
    #2769169, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    Thanks Winston.

    Check with regs about recording first. Most Australian States have a “one party must be aware of the recording process” I’m fairly sure you may not be allowed to record two people without their knowledge. But in cases like Arkys, transcribing the goings on to paper is equivalent to writing down a conversation immediately after as a memory aid.

    There is considerable state by state variation in what you can tape. But they apply to private conversations. Interacting with Antifa, especially in victoriastan, one of the most lenient states for bugging, would not be a problem. No conversation with police is private so as to be in breach of the recording legislation.

  248. Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769170, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    M0nty – Mueller is the swamp monster, with co-monsters Comey, Clapper and Brennan. And one of two more that I could name. The creature from the black lagoon is called “Hillary”.

    So yes you have to go into the swamp to slay the swamp monster. I agree.

    On the other hand I just want those swampies to serve 20 to life in a dismal mouldy cell. Which, seeing as they are swamp monsters, they might think is looxury.

    And thanks to Tom for the swamp cartoon this morning which M0nty seems not to have looked at.

  249. m0nty
    #2769171, posted on July 21, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    Is there anyone in the world who’s wired to the internet with an interest in the US political doesn’t know or suspected Trump banged a lot of women before the election?

    Banging women isn’t the problem. Breaking laws while covering it up is the problem. It’s always the cover up.

  250. Boambee John
    #2769173, posted on July 21, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    Reference Wee Willy Shortone’s latest brain fart on an inheritance tax, I have absolute confidence that Turdballs lacks the political nous to turn this into an election winni g campaign.

    However, I suspect that Lucy and daddy will he handling the campaign materials for this one.

1 2 3 … 6

Comments are closed.