Monday Forum: July 30, 2018

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  1. Tel

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    Speaking for myself I would consider it, but there’s not many tech jobs to be found in bumfuck bumpskinville, and although I can turn a spanner if I need to I’m only going to be mediocre. Also, let’s face it, farmers ain’t got no money so it’s pointless working for them, and that just leaves the mining companies who run FIFO anyhow and bring in specialists for 7-day stints and those guys all live in cities.

    So yeah, if you country folks could actually built it, then I’d come along.

    The other problem… most city people hate farmers, so if I went out and tried to live in a rural area I might as well paint a big target on my head and should “hit me!” Personally I don’t have a grudge against you salt of the Earth type people, but almost everyone else who I bump into in the city does seem to hate you for some reason. Just don’t feel putting myself into the political firing line somehow.

  2. calli

    Did I say something that was untrue? Please enlighten me.

    I’m not arguing with you Dot. You have the answers to your questions. Tell me.

  3. Infidel Tiger

    Dot someone has switched you to bot mode.

    Forget the sacred liberation text books for a minute. Life is not Econometrics.

    Think how a real live boy would think.

  4. Snoopy

    If we take environmental factors into consideration – climate & water supply chief among them – only about 10% of the Australian continent is comfortably habitable.

    I would put it close to two thirds habitable. Pretty much all of VIC, NSW and QLD for starters.

  5. Mater

    It is nothing like the hell hole that is the Spit to the Warringah Freeway.

    Is there public transport available?
    At the most basic levels, the regional towns were not set up or funded to cope with such dramatic population increases. The fundamentals are just not present.

  6. H B Bear

    Wesfarmers chief executive Rob Scott has warned lower migration levels will lead to fewer jobs and lower wages.

    Shorter Rob Scott, “Stopping the population Ponzi will make it harder for us to offload Coles before the Germans cut our cosy duopoly lunch.”

  7. Makka

    Wesfarmers chief executive Rob Scott has warned lower migration levels will lead to his lower bonus growth .

    FIFY Rob.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    Shorter Rob Scott, “Stopping the population Ponzi will make it harder for us to offload Coles before the Germans cut our cosy duopoly lunch.”

    Corporatism is worse than socialism every time.

    These people are horrendous.

  9. calli

    It is nothing like the hell hole that is the Spit to the Warringah Freeway.

    You’re sweet.

    Gladys is building you a tunnel.

  10. Death Giraffe

    ..
    Watch any Death Giraffe video
    here.

  11. thefrolickingmole

    You know what would be funny, counting the number of “Linespesons” as opposed to linesmen actually working.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/31/pulled-into-line-girl-7-gets-new-zealand-to-change-sexist-road-signs
    The New Zealand Transport Agency will update its signs from “Linemen” to “Line Crew” after receiving a letter from a seven-year-old who pointed out that “women can be line-workers too”.

    The letter was written by Zoe Carew who became incensed when she saw the “Linemen” signs – which indicate that people installing or fixing power lines are working in the area – while on her way to visit her grandparents in the city of Eastbourne.

    “Why does the sign say ‘Linemen’ when the people working on the lines may be men or women? I think this sign is wrong and unfair. Do you agree?” Carew wrote in a letter to Fergus Gammie, the chief executive of the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA).

  12. Mitch M.

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    The best thing that could happen is for the retired to opt for a tree change. Rural centres would boom with all that retirement money. But typically and understandably the retired want to be near their (potential)grandchildren. If it did happen the demographic changes would have interesting political implications.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    Gerry Harvey, Wesfarmers, Meriton and GetUp! are our real government.

    We need to destroy them.

    Anyone who shops at Coles or Bunnings is a traitor and pure filth.

  14. Makka

    Tel
    #2777315, posted on July 31, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Yes, our infrastructure and public amenities outside our sardie canned cities is absolute crap

  15. Farmer Gez

    Tel, perhaps you could explain something to me.
    When the Chinese build a city in the middle of nowhere, where do the jobs come from?
    Yours sincerely,
    Mr Bumfuck Bumpskinville Jnr.

  16. H B Bear

    It is nothing like the hell hole that is the Spit to the Warringah Freeway.

    Sydney is a ridiculous place for major city. It stopped making sense when people stopped arriving in sailing ships. It might have worked with a world class underground metro system but it is now insanely expensive to try and retrofit one. I have no idea why anyone wants or does live there – unless you want to go a bit low in the leapfrog alone Oxford St.

    Melbourne is fine. Its periphery is just flat cow paddocks.

  17. .

    No calli, I don’t agree.

    1. Mining was the opposite problem – jobs but no housing. A friend of a (younger, foreign) bloke I worked with walked in *unskilled* to a 120k job even after the GFC had hit and his gf got 90k for being a secretary. I retell this truthfully as I was told. That was verging on a decade ago now.
    2. Really good prices for ag products and foodies have seen new micro-industries pop up and see some abbatoirs expand. There were even a few hare-brained schemes to build freight airports regionally. I think the inland rail plan killed them.
    3. Really? If you’re sitting on 800k of property in Auburn mortgage free (and perhaps with a private pension plan), why not move to Avoca or Foster?
    4. The concentration of public spending, waste, mismanagement (Sydney has not been able to build rail lines to the Northern Beaches over almost 100 YEARS) and path dependent centralisation in the old colonial capitals along with the growth of bureaucracy and socialism and now green tape waste (and Canberra). It is creating its own brain drain of sorts along with crowding out real jobs.

  18. Tel

    When the Chinese build a city in the middle of nowhere, where do the jobs come from?

    I thought most of those cities were empty, but other than that, I’ve never been there.

    Just throwing out a random guess… since they have cheap electricity, low minimum wage, a population eager to work, education in practical subjects like Engineering instead of Master of Angsy Feminist Theatrics, and not too many ridiculous regulations… I’m going right out on a limb and say it might be the sort of environment where people could consider starting a business (mostly foreigners moving their factories to China, but maybe others).

  19. Makka

    When the Chinese build a city in the middle of nowhere, where do the jobs come from?

    Many of the new cities in China are built to create jobs and liberate money from banks and other institutions. Lots of cities however remain rather empty. Mission accomplished.

  20. .

    Gladys is building you a tunnel.

    Great!

    It will be ready when I’m addled with cancer and my great grandkids think I’m senile.

    I really think those trip times are very, very, very optimistic.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/384449184/Beaches-Link

    Page 17.

  21. .

    Is there public transport available?

    When I was younger, a bus trip to work (20 km) one day took over 105 minutes.

    It is meant to be 48 minutes at most.

    75-90 minutes was not uncommon.

    $40-$60 a week for the pleasure as well.

    It got me back into reading fiction.

  22. Some History

    Chrissy Poyne is on The Projectile.

  23. Farmer Gez

    Ballarat, Bendigo and Shepp should be cities of half a million people if any of our leaders had the foresight to use the tax system to positively encourage relocation.
    I know a business that moved to a council incentivised greenfield site in Ballarat and now, because of growth, the land value of their factory makes up a subsantial part of their capital.

  24. Top Ender

    How to have fun with Millennial Greenie types.

    Ask them how much of Australia is being mined.

    Answers usually range from 10% to 40%. Gives you a good idea of the quality of their education.

    It is in fact a lot less than 1%. “The Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences (ABARES) reports the industry’s footprint is less than 0.02 per cent of Australia’s land mass.”

  25. Some History

    Chrissy Poyne is on The Projectile.

    Av a good larf wiff Chrissy

    https://imgur.com/T3171Sv

  26. John Constantine

    https://www.theland.com.au/story/5556748/forbes-lambs-hit-30060/

    $300 bucks for lambs, at per each.

    Market now going two separate ways, the suitable animals for the American market we now discover can be sold for [ 18 dollars dressed is the rumour] very good money, so the processors are paying up for the good fat cover heavy weights that they were docking pricewise not long ago as ‘outside grid’.

    The cozy mafia domestic cartel rort is now seeing large numbers of light, lean lambs, the ones they were claiming the Australian consumer was calling out for. These are cheap and getting cheaper.

    When the lamb gets dear in the supermarket because of ‘record prices’ the low grade mafia bastards are only paying good money for export stuff, there are plenty of domestic lambs at last years prices.

    Maaaaates.

  27. .

    18 AUD per kg dressed?

    I heard about 7 AUD per kg dressed only two years ago!

  28. Makka

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    Agriculture and mining are the most productive industries of all, in terms of inter-industry multipliers.

    I think a lot want to but find it difficult. I suspect it’s a combination of job opportunities linked to potential advancement. Small regional centres are not easy to land well paying jobs where career building has good potential. Locals get to decide who to hire and unless something is lined up well beforehand it becomes a lleap of faith too far

    Another I think is child minding facilities and that includes the grandparents. Getting a place for your kid in small towns isn’t always easy so that limits relocation choices as well. Linked to this are education options. Some are very good others not so and parents tend to be anti-change if the child is settled.

    Lots of reasons why the move is unappealing besides the economics of it.

  29. 2dogs

    Speaking for myself I would consider it, but there’s not many tech jobs to be found in bumfuck bumpskinville

    This is mostly the fault of government. For example, the Australian Tax Office has thousands of IT people employed in Sydney and Melbourne to keep their software up to date. Clearly, these people do not need to be centralised (or they would be in Canberra), but, instead, the ATO worsens the housing crisis in Sydney and Melbourne.

  30. Nerblnob

    The predominantly white, anglo saxon refugees from the big cities are now starting to overwhelm the relatively modest infrastructure of the country towns and villages.

    You want to see them in the formerly busy mining and generating towns of the Latrobe Valley.

    Some good folk but also a lot of fat early retirees on mobility scooters.

  31. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    When I was younger, a bus trip to work (20 km) one day took over 105 minutes.

    It is meant to be 48 minutes at most.

    75-90 minutes was not uncommon.

    $40-$60 a week for the pleasure as well.

    It got me back into reading fiction.

    This is not the language of a human.

  32. C.L.

    I see old one trick Josh was at it again today, claiming we should repudiate the left by supporting the NEG. Nice try, Josh. It’s getting a bit old, mate.

  33. H B Bear

    I think Dotty is still in beta testing.

  34. John Constantine

    The 40 kilo dressed weight lambs that made 300 bucks today work out at $7.50 a kilo dressed weight in the yards. Liveweight, at a 45% yield they would be pushing 90 kilos each on the hoof.

    The rumoured 18 bucks is delivered America chilled in containers.

  35. Snoopy

    This is mostly the fault of government.

    Banarnaby did his best. The howls were a joy to behold.

  36. miltonf

    I see old one trick Josh was at it again today, claiming we should repudiate the left by supporting the NEG. Nice try, Josh. It’s getting a bit old, mate.

    Ef off fraudenburg

  37. C.L.

    Get down to Funky Town before Turnbull floods it with Afghans.

  38. Some History

    Chrissy Poyne: “Governments are there to do the right thing”.

    https://imgur.com/4yXJJyj

  39. zyconoclast

    Do you mean Christopher Pahn, the self-proclaimed “election winning machine”?

    This is him

  40. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ballarat, Bendigo and Shepp should be cities of half a million people if any of our leaders had the foresight to use the tax system to positively encourage relocation.

    The unused railway yards, and all adjacent free parking spots in streets nearby, are crammed with cars every day, as residents of the God fearing city of Ballarat commute to Melbourne. Fares must bite into the pay packet, but I guess the daily travellers have worked that out.

  41. zyconoclast

    I’m so old I remember when Leftists held Jesuits in the same regard as Opus Dei. Now, if I’m not mistaken, Frank Brennan SJ has a float in the Gay Mardi Gras.

    Frank Brennan SJ is the float in the Gay Mardi Gras.

    FIFY

  42. Farmer Gez

    $300 for a lamb.
    I might start a Catch Your Own business.
    City types could catch, kill, dress a lamb and cook it in a natural setting. Kinky types could put in another step between catch and kill.

  43. thefrolickingmole

    It is in fact a lot less than 1%. “The Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences (ABARES) reports the industry’s footprint is less than 0.02 per cent of Australia’s land mass.”

    But wait theres more, that figure is areas under mining leases, which can include greenfields sites and closed areas as well.
    Do you have a link for that, because the last time i looked for figures they were from 1990-something and i couldnt find anything more up to date.

  44. cohenite

    Clean Energy Finance Corporation annual report out today, illustrates the degree of wasteful malinvestments the taxpayer is shouldering in this nefarious body’s activities.

    In the 12 months to June 2018, new commitments were $2.3 billion,($1.1 billion in renewable energy).
    At 30 June 2018, total CEFC investment commitments since inception exceeded $6.6 billion. In five years of investing, CEFC commitments have now contributed to clean energy projects Australia-wide, with a total project value of $19 billion.

    Large scale renewables have cost Australia up to $100 billion including large infrastructure costs to enable the stupid solar and wind farms to be connected to the grid. Small scale solar adds considerably to this. Working on the rough rule of thumb of about 30 – 35% of the cost being taxpayer subsidy, we have a figure approaching $50 billion.

    $50 billion would have enabled 5 – 6 new HELE coal fired power plants to be built with enough left over to drought proof NSW with dams and water piped from Desal.

  45. Makka

    Fares must bite into the pay packet,

    Another reason why land is hoarded. Too much money being made by well placed rent seeking grubs and parasites to allow options to be introduced that would reduce the skim off the sheeple.

  46. calli

    Thanks, Dot. Got #3 covered – moved out of Sydney four years ago and have thrived. Sadly, some grandparents are obsessed with grandchildren and can’t move. Or they want to move and are guilt-tripped into childminding all week.

    The Northern Beaches rail/tunnel/freeway has been on the books since I was a child. The house I grew up in was earmarked for demolition for the new road. It’s now in an up-market lower north shore cul-de-sac.

  47. Myrddin Seren

    Another deadly accident on an aging, badly designed and over-used transport corridor.

    Two dead, four injured in fiery M1 crash

  48. Death Giraffe

    Kinky types could put in another step between catch and kill.

    ..
    Surely you mean after, not between.

  49. Mark from Melbourne

    Watch any Death Giraffe video
    here.

    Sinc, must we have this shameless self-promotion littering the OT?

    I’m sure he is monetizing this somehow. And we all know how bad that is.

    Or he’s not. And we all know how bad that is.

  50. Myrddin Seren

    The Northern Beaches rail/tunnel/freeway has been on the books since I was a child. The house I grew up in was earmarked for demolition for the new road. It’s now in an up-market lower north shore cul-de-sac.

    Pretty sure that selling off the Norther Beaches Corridor, amongst a few others, was another Neville Wran masterstroke.

    Not too much point, other than spite, in speculating on why Nifty got behind ‘monetising’ transport corridors.

  51. mh

    ‘Medicare for All’ Plan Would Cost Federal Government $32 Trillion

    A “Medicare for all” proposal would cost the federal government more than $32 trillion over the course of ten years. That’s according to a new study by Charles Blahous, Mercatus Center senior research strategist and former public trustee for Social Security and Medicare.

    Dr. Blahous analyzed the “Medicare for All Act” (M4A), legislation introduced by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) last September, in an effort to determine how much such a proposal would cost the federal government…

    https://www.mercatus.org/bridge/commentary/medicare-all-plan-would-cost-federal-government-32-trillion

  52. Death Giraffe

    I’m sure he is monetizing this somehow. And we all know how bad that is.

    ..
    How much are you willing to pay for me to stop?

  53. Hydra

    The unused railway yards, and all adjacent free parking spots in streets nearby, are crammed with cars every day, as residents of the God fearing city of Ballarat commute to Melbourne. Fares must bite into the pay packet, but I guess the daily travellers have worked that out.

    It used to be $75/week from Geelong; probably similar from Ballarat. Not too bad when it’s $43 for a Metro pass and you save more than $33/week in rent…

  54. calli

    Another deadly accident on an aging, badly designed and over-used transport corridor

    The approaches to Mooney Mooney Bridge can be overwhelming for people who are unfamiliar with the road. It looks far steeper than it really is and people panic. Seen it lots of times.

    I tend to barrel down at 115 in the fast lane. And then you get a halfwit who has overestimated the power of their engine, who runs out of puff on the upslope and is stuck like glue in front of you.

    If the “you” happens to be a truck and dog and the traffic is thick, there’s not a lot of wiggle room. There are no aprons.

  55. .

    Fuck the internet.

    I went to search for SRI (stanford research institute) hot tubes (a new hydrogen based nuke tech) and ALL I GOT WAS CEYLONESE PORNOGRAPHY.

    “Show bobs and vegena”

    Must be a bit different in Sri Lanka.

    “Show bobs and hot tube”

  56. Rossini

    Just watched a great interview by Credlin and Joyce on sky

  57. Myrddin Seren

    I tend to barrel down at 115 in the fast lane. And then you get a halfwit who has overestimated the power of their engine, who runs out of puff on the upslope and is stuck like glue in front of you.

    Note the collision is in the inside lane – where people like me who don’t travel in the fast lane move to get out of everyone’s way.

    Except with the road chock-a-block in peak periods – that’s where the trucks barreling along are. So there is no possibility to get out of the way of faster moving traffic except getting off this typical NSW shit hole road all together.

    And two of those people who were probably trying to do the right thing and stay out of the fast lane are dead.

  58. calli

    Pretty sure that selling off the Norther Beaches Corridor, amongst a few others, was another Neville Wran masterstroke.

    Dad sold the house to the DMR in ‘73, for half of bugger all. It was then sold on to “someone” when the corridor was abandoned. I have my suspicions.

    There was good money to be made from these insider deals and no one there to scrutinise them.

  59. calli

    And two of those people who were probably trying to do the right thing and stay out of the fast lane are dead.

    Yes. That’s how I see it too, poor buggers.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Another deadly accident

    Yikes. I went through there at about 3pm.

  61. Mark from Melbourne

    How much are you willing to pay for me to stop?

    Stop? Hell no. I’m lovin’ it.

  62. Farmer Gez

    “Show bobs and hot tube”

    I tried that and all I got was f$cking Stanford Research Institute and some weird Kiwi making a scale model of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

  63. Death Giraffe

    Stop? Hell no. I’m lovin’ it.

    ..
    How much are you willing to pay for me to continue?

  64. Baldrick

    Bolt going all pro-abortion over the SJW whinging she didn’t want to have to pay for an abortion at a private clinic but wanted the state government to provide it for free.

    Fauxservative cockhead.

  65. Boambee John

    JC at 1710

    Dude, its a fucking continent the size of the US and we have 24 million people – the size of Texas. Argue your case on social grounds, but don’t touch economics, as you’re horrible at it. Horrible.

    Most of them end up in Sydney or Melbourne, with a lesser number in Brisbane.

    The total size of the Australian continent is not relevant. The small area immigrants congregate in is the issue.

  66. Myrddin Seren

    Bolt going all …SJW ……..

    Fauxservative cockhead.

    Wife, kids, mortgage, school fees, big bill for security.

    I suspect BoltA’s instinct is sniffing the prevailing winds and seeing News Corp crumbling in the face of a Shorten-Greens-ACTU 1000 year Reich who will rapidly move to resurrect Julia’s media control Star Chamber and crush dissent.

    Expect to see BoltA rolling up in a red tee-shirt ready to join a Shorten ‘It’s Time’ video.

  67. Gary

    Cities make people forget how to wipe their own arse and make coffee.

  68. Mater

    I think a lot want to but find it difficult. I suspect it’s a combination of job opportunities linked to potential advancement. Small regional centres are not easy to land well paying jobs where career building has good potential. Locals get to decide who to hire and unless something is lined up well beforehand it becomes a leap of faith too far.

    Makka, I can personally attest to this. If you move to a regional area for a particular job and that job ceases to exist (and it did), there are very limited other opportunities – especially if you have specific skill sets.
    You can get caught with a house that no one else wants, especially in the event of a large local business going under, and be financially unable to relocate again.
    It doesn’t always go this way, but if you settle within commuting distance to a capital, such risks are largely mitigated. This, and access to medical facilities, is why the townships just outside the green wedge are being inundated.

  69. Drink-Up Socrates

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    The best thing that could happen is for the retired to opt for a tree change. Rural centres would boom with all that retirement money. But typically and understandably the retired want to be near their (potential)grandchildren. If it did happen the demographic changes would have interesting political implications.
    We decided to. Our ‘friends’ in the Sydney ants nest were incredulous bordering on abusive.
    The outcome was brilliant. New pals, unpretentious and focused on the best of times.
    Grandkids?- $120 for a flight, few bucks for a bribe gift – great fun, hand back and go home. Babysitting was never part of the Parental contract.
    We have got to the point where we find having to be in Sydney for family visits is a severe imposition.
    Go Bush old folks – there is nothing better.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For whatever reason, had to attend a Government Department workshop in Perth today. Guess who got there late, and missed the “acknowledgement of the traditional owners of the land, and the wisdom of the tribal elders?” Damn, sorry about that!

  71. John Constantine

    Don’t worry about the ceylonese red tube thing dot.

    It happened to Chrissy pynefilth once, but I think he got away with it.

    All he wanted was men that had a lot of large dark feathered.roosters.

  72. mh

    Trump needs to let Rudy Giuliani go. Enough is enough.

  73. John Constantine

    The Australian State is preselecting millions of Ponzi imports that are already acclimated to being stacked tight and high in dogboxes and swarming in crowds and being pushed in to packed train carriages.

    Their Lucy turnfailure has a vision.

  74. Mark A

    .
    #2777303, posted on July 31, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Around 40% of our population live in 2 cities. Or much less than .5 % of our land mass. A lot of which you have absolutely no clue about.

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    Agriculture and mining are the most productive industries of all, in terms of inter-industry multipliers.

    I assume you know why?
    A hint, not because of the number of people it employs.

  75. Tel

    Their Lucy turnfailure has a vision.

    She might consider explaining it to Bill Shorten.

  76. Myrddin Seren

    This, and access to medical facilities, is why the townships just outside the green wedge are being inundated.

    Wise words from I former boss I increasingly mull over.

    When he and his wife retired back to his birth state of Queensland – key criteria were access to transport to see the grandkids and ready access to a good hospital.

    I figure these days, you also need to check the local crime stats for Houso hotspots. I am also very minded of a recent Cat commenter ( Armadillo ? ) who mentioned attending a wedding in Lismore ( I think ) who noted that the streets had more homeless, drug-addled human wreckage then they had ever seen before. The Nimbin overflow. Not such an exciting tree-change there.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Bolt going all pro-abortion over the SJW whinging she didn’t want to have to pay for an abortion at a private clinic but wanted the state government to provide it for free.

    There are no conservatives in the Australian media. The media is very quick to tell us who is a “conservative” and has labelled such far left whackos as Paul Murray and Alan Jones as such.

    It’s an open field for someone.

  78. cohenite

    Bolt’s interview of Miss Southern was good; but then it would be hard to have a bad interview with her.

  79. egg_

    Speaking for myself I would consider it, but there’s not many tech jobs to be found in bumfuck bumpskinville, and although I can turn a spanner if I need to I’m only going to be mediocre.

    +1000

    If you aren’t moving to a jerb in Outer Bumfvck Central or rooting one of the inbred yokels, you’re screwed – forget about the infastructure.

  80. Rockdoctor

    Top Ender
    #2777354, posted on July 31, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    Yup and I’d wager a bet those figures are from the footprint of the mining lease not the actual pit/portal and mullock heaps the spoil is dumped on. Pretty stringent enviro controls exist so only the area that needs mining is mined the rest preserved as anything disturbed has to be rehabilitated at a cost.

    I can’t find a figure on google through all the green noise but off the top of my head I think it was about 1% of the “fertile” Liverpool Plains under threat of mining yet that sent lock the gate into a frenzy… In Central Queensland where the stocking rates are far from optimal due to the erratic low rainfall. I’d still say well under 1% except if you get round clusters like the area Moranbah to Dysart to Middlemount north to Glenden then to Nebo back to north of Moranbah (Goonyella North).

  81. egg_

    The Australian State is preselecting millions of Ponzi imports that are already acclimated to being stacked tight and high in dogboxes and swarming in crowds and being pushed in to packed train carriages.

    And Heaven help the locals who have to share the carriages with same.

  82. Farmer Gez

    Did Bolt probe Miss Southern on the cosplay thing?
    I certainly would like to get to the bottom of that mattter.

  83. urb

    #2777331, posted on July 31, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    Taken a plane for a look over W Qld lately snoops? Looks like mars

  84. urb

    #2777381, posted on July 31, 2018 at 6:56 pm
    Lived experience?

  85. cohenite

    Did Bolt probe Miss Southern on the cosplay thing?

    Miss Southern is Wonder Woman?

  86. Eyrie

    Snoopy, try flying from Longreach to Mt Isa (needs nuking) or then to Tennant Creek (also needs nuking).
    Habitable?

  87. Eyrie

    Or as Mrs Eyrie said over the Kimberley – this looks like the Moon. No dear, it is red, it looks like Mars.

  88. Rockdoctor

    Snap Frolicking….

  89. zyconoclast

    Tell me again why importing all those sub-continent types is a good idea?

    World’s Biggest Toilet-Building Spree Is Under Way in India

    (Bloomberg) — India is on the greatest toilet-building spree in human history, and it’s a windfall for companies.

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s $20 billion “Clean India” mission aims to construct 111 million latrines in five years. Besides promising to improve the health, safety and dignity of hundreds of millions of Indians, the national hygiene drive has spurred an 81 percent jump in sales of concrete building materials and 48 percent increase in bathroom and sanitaryware sales, according to Euromonitor International. That’s benefiting firms from Tata Group, the nation’s largest conglomerate, to cleaning-products maker Reckitt Benckiser Group Plc.

    Almost 80 million household toilets are estimated to have been built since Modi’s 2014 pledge to ensure universal sanitation coverage by October 2019, which will mark 150 years since the birth of independence leader Mahatma Gandhi. The scale-up of latrines and a nationwide campaign to encourage their use is driving a market for toilet-related products and services that’s predicted to double to $62 billion by 2021.

    “It’s the biggest, most successful behavior-change campaign in the world,” said Val Curtis, director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine’s Environmental Health Group, who has worked on the program in India. “Every time I go there, I feel like I can’t sit down for weeks after because I’m excited about what they’re doing. It’s incredible.”

    Bollywood Star
    Bollywood celebrity Akshay Kumar, star of the sanitation-promoting movie “Toilet: Ek Prem Katha” (or “Toilet: A Love Story”), was appointed brand ambassador this month for Harpic, the bowl-cleaner made by Reckitt Benckiser. The Slough, England-based company, which also sells the disinfectant Dettol, dominates the toilet-care market in India, with sales climbing 11 percent to $105.7 million last year, Euromonitor data show.

    “We are one of the most trusted brands in India, and we’ve always managed to outperform the market with Dettol,” Rakesh Kapoor, Reckitt Benckiser’s India-born chief executive officer, said on a conference call in April. The company has been able to increase awareness of its cleaning products by working with open-defecation-free communities and households to promote sanitation and hygiene.

    That’s a common theme across suppliers of home-care products, according to Sowmya Adiraju, a research analyst at Euromonitor in Bengaluru. For example, Hindustan Unilever Ltd. entered the low-cost toilet cleaner market with a new powdered product, and has been trying to make toilets accessible and affordable through its Domex Toilet Academy.

    Hygiene Awareness
    Companies are investing heavily on spreading awareness about better hygiene products, aiding the penetration of home care products in India, which is still low by global standards, Adiraju said in an email.

    The “Clean India” mission has had a “largely positive” impact on suppliers of sanitaryware and tiles, sales of which are predicted to expand about 11 percent annually through 2022, according to Adiraju. The sanitation campaign was anticipated initially to provide a bigger sales boost, but some companies have partnered with governments more as a social initiative than a business opportunity, she said.

    Before Modi began the Clean India program, known locally as the Swachh Bharat Abhiyan mission, the country accounted for more than half of the world’s 1.1 billion people who routinely relieve themselves in fields, beaches and other open spaces.

    Economic Impediment
    So-called open defecation contaminates food and drinking water, and spreads diarrheal diseases that cause chronic malnutrition and childhood stunting — a burden the World Bank estimated costs India 6.4 percent of its gross domestic product.

    Sanitation is a basic need that is denied to a majority of the Indian population,” said Rajeev Kher, chief executive officer of SaraPlast Pvt Ltd., a closely-held manufacturer, supplier and cleaner of restrooms, including portable toilets for rent. Kher has also converted aged buses into mobile toilets to provide a “clean and safe toilet experience” for women in a collaboration with municipal authorities in the western city of Pune.

    For individual households, Japan’s LIXIL Group has supplied tens of thousands of twin pit toilet systems that costs $10 or less apiece to facilitate the safe management of excreta in the absence of a sewage connection.

    $300 Million Orders
    Increased government spending on toilets and sanitation augers well for Indian Hume Pipe Co., according to Pallav Agarwal, an analyst with Antique Stock Broking Ltd. in Mumbai, who rates the pipe company a buy. It secured a dozen major work orders for water supply and sewerage projects across six states in the 2018 fiscal year, totaling 20.9 billion rupees ($300 million), Agarwal said in a July 5 report.

    Shares of Cera Sanitaryware Ltd. and Somany Ceramics Ltd. have more than doubled since August 2014, when Modi in his Independence Day speech emphasized on hygiene and the need to build toilets in rural areas. Kajaria Ceramics Ltd. and HSIL Ltd. have each jumped at least 40 percent in the period.

    Mumbai-based Tata Group’s steel division makes Nest-In, a modular toilet that comes with an option for a bio-digester. The company has been focusing on products for end-users, including modular housing and toilets, and in March opened public toilet blocks at rest stops along a national highway.

    “Private sector enterprises have to pitch in to make the Swachh Bharat Abhiyan successful,” said Prabhat Pani, head of partnerships and technology at Tata Trusts, which owns two-thirds of Tata Sons, the apex company of Tata Group.

  90. testpattern

    ‘the unresolved land question which maintains inequality through subjugation of many indigenous people to poor and disabling living conditions and the migrant cheap labour system. These inequities and inequality continue to contribute to both prevalence and incidences of disability. I will use three examples of the burden of disease to demonstrate this argument.

    Firstly, colonial subjugation and apartheid dispossession opened windows for a migrant labour system leading to the destruction of family life, broken homes, vast income inequalities and extreme forms of violence which all formed colliding epidemics of illness and disease in South Africa.’

    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2018-07-31-the-land-question-is-linked-to-the-burden-of-disease-and-disability/

  91. Farmer Gez

    Lambs $300.
    Wheat trading at $420 tonne for feed in central west NSW. Same stuff was selling at $200 last harvest.
    I’m still holding canola. It jumped $20 yesterday and will continue to rise as the stock feed industry loses resistance and has to secure supply. Another $50 tonne to be got IMHO,

  92. Marcus

    Tell me again why importing all those sub-continent types is a good idea?

    Oh, come on. When have the Indians ever caused social problems in Australia?

    They’re lifting themselves out of poverty in India through capitalism and Westernisation and work hard to better their lives wherever they end up around the globe. We could do at lot worse than accept Indians as immigrants.

  93. Boambee John

    calli at 1854

    The Northern Beaches rail/tunnel/freeway has been on the books since I was a child. The house I grew up in was earmarked for demolition for the new road. It’s now in an up-market lower north shore cul-de-sac.

    Back in the 1950s/1960s the Eastern suburbs railway line was the forever dream. It even made it into a polular song once, IIRC as a synonym for never ever!

  94. Armadillo

    Death [shudder] has been hinting at a climax to his videos. I will be sated only by the loss of a limb. The way he handles his tools, it shouldn’t be too far off.

    Note to DG: Disappointed you haven’t kept wearing the same clothes. You need to “build a brand”, dude. Superman didn’t reach his high status by changing his clobber at a moments notice. Neither did “Bannas in Pyjamas”.

  95. Sydney Boy

    In my experience as a university lecturer, Indians, etc. don’t quite understand the concept of “original work”. Plagiarism of references was rife among Indian students.

  96. Armadillo

    Imagine if “Anonymous” got rid of their masks? It sort of defeats the purpose.

  97. candy

    There are no conservatives in the Australian media. The media is very quick to tell us who is a “conservative” and has labelled such far left whackos as Paul Murray and Alan Jones as such.

    Nonsense, IT. Bolt is conservative through and through.

    This thing about the lady losing her job, or having an abortion, is him being kind hearted and gentlemanly towards a lady, and not letting his commenters go full pelt about her. He’s a good guy like that. He is a kind person.

  98. Hydra

    Back in the 1950s/1960s the Eastern suburbs railway line was the forever dream. It even made it into a polular song once, IIRC as a synonym for never ever!

    The Doncaster railway line in Melbourne was first proposed in 1890.

  99. Armadillo

    Or those banana people. A red bandana is an icon, apparently. Much like a slouch hat.

  100. Fisky

    Hahahaha! I knew this was coming, and now it’s out in the open. The Koch Brothers are finished!

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    10m
    10 minutes ago

    More
    The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas. They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more. I made…..

  101. Fisky

    Part 2 in Trump’s hit on the useless open borders fraud Koch Brothers

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    2m
    2 minutes ago

    More
    ….them richer. Their network is highly overrated, I have beaten them at every turn. They want to protect their companies outside the U.S. from being taxed, I’m for America First & the American Worker – a puppet for no one. Two nice guys with bad ideas. Make America Great Again!

  102. Boambee John

    Mater at 1929

    This, and access to medical facilities, is why the townships just outside the green wedge are being inundated.

    Medical facilities, particularly specialists, is a key factor. When you dial 000 after midnight and it an hour or more to the nearest cardiologist, things could get a bit nerve wracking. This was a prime consideration when we relocated to RARA (rural and regional Australia).

  103. Fisky

    Now watch every former Tea Party supporter fall in line with the new orthodoxy. All Cats must follow too! No more Koch Brothers support allowed!

  104. Crossie

    … key criteria were access to transport to see the grandkids and ready access to a good hospital.

    These are my criteria as well and the reason why we will not be retiring to Oberon, my husband’s favourite place in Australia. But we visit often so he gets his soul refreshed.

  105. Armadillo

    Ouch. Double punch.

  106. Fisky

    It is time to utterly smash the donor class and their pathetic running dogs. Trump needs to take out CATO next, making it impossible for their lobbyists to get anywhere with rank-and-file GOP reps. Any GOP member who even schedules a meeting with the weird CATO crowd deserves to get primaried.

  107. Fisky

    I know there are lots of Koch sympathisers lurking on the thread. Don’t be shy now, tell us why open borders is fabulous and China ripping us off should go on forever!

  108. Crossie

    There are no conservatives in the Australian media. The media is very quick to tell us who is a “conservative” and has labelled such far left whackos as Paul Murray and Alan Jones as such.

    It’s an open field for someone.

    IT, it’s all relative. When you compare them to the ABCand SBS presenters, or even some free to air TV programs, they are conservative. We here are different.

  109. Infidel Tiger

    Speaking of the donor class, Jeff Flake who is a crazed Catoist is holidaying in Zimbabwe rather helping Mitch McConnell get Kavanaugh appointed.

    Who in hell’s name holidays in Zimbabwe?

  110. Pete of Perth

    Fkhead pyne on the project. Excuse me while I go and did my nuts in paint stripper

  111. Twostix

    White people are fleeing the cities faster than they can dump another suburb worth
    of africans in.

    They’re building a clean and tidy entire new city 20 minutes north of brisbane to house all the white middle class who are fleeing from their now overrun north brisbane neo babylonian suburbs.

    We cant run forever.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Nonsense, IT. Bolt is conservative through and through.

    This thing about the lady losing her job, or having an abortion, is him being kind hearted and gentlemanly towards a lady, and not letting his commenters go full pelt about her. He’s a good guy like that. He is a kind person.

    Rubbish. The woman should be in jail and her children put in the care of a loving family.

    No wonder we are importing a million third worlders every 3 years. The locals are too busy offing their offspring.

  113. Crossie

    I like Georgina Downer but I loathe her father. She made a mistake by taking advice from Malcolm’s staff who seem to have advised her not to speak to “conservatives” such as Sky News and Alan Jones. It’s really ironic that she is now talking to all f the above.

    Did daddy gave any input into her decisions? If so then she can maybe win next time if she tells dad not to help.

  114. Infidel Tiger

    They’re lifting themselves out of poverty in India through capitalism and Westernisation and work hard to better their lives wherever they end up around the globe. We could do at lot worse than accept Indians as immigrants.

    We used to import high quality elephant jockeys. They were terrific migrants, but India doesn’t produce them any more.

    The latest batch still shit in the street and have the r&pey problems.

  115. Snoopy

    Snoopy, try flying from Longreach to Mt Isa (needs nuking) or then to Tennant Creek (also needs nuking).
    Habitable?

    Just spent the last month driving Brisbane, Mitchell, Barcaldine, Longreach, Isa, Camooweal, Gregory, Cloncurry, Hughenden, Mt Garnet, Portland Roads and back down the coast.

    I could easily live in most of these places but I grew up in the Bush and spent a good part of my life living in remote locations. The civic pride of country town residents is striking.

    The drought has hit some places in Western Queensland badly. Other places aren’t so bad. Lots of cattle on the move. What’s very obvious is the effect of long term stocking rates on native pastures. Not uncommon to see two adjacent paddocks, one bare dirt, the other grassed.

    The Artesian Basin makes WQ more habitable than it otherwise would be.

  116. Armadillo

    Shame that we have had two Prime Ministers here in Australia that were wealthy enough in their own right to give everyone the fork. Money and power are two seperate things. The blithering idiots thought they could buy respect. All that they purchased was loyalty, which is ultimately transferable.

  117. Crossie

    No wonder we are importing a million third worlders every 3 years. The locals are too busy offing their offspring.

    It’s for the children.

  118. Cassie of Sydney

    “andy
    #2777448, posted on July 31, 2018 at 8:20 pm
    There are no conservatives in the Australian media. The media is very quick to tell us who is a “conservative” and has labelled such far left whackos as Paul Murray and Alan Jones as such.

    Nonsense, IT. Bolt is conservative through and through.

    This thing about the lady losing her job, or having an abortion, is him being kind hearted and gentlemanly towards a lady, and not letting his commenters go full pelt about her. He’s a good guy like that. He is a kind person”

    I like Bolt but he is a wuss…nice but a wuss.

  119. Crossie

    Armadillo
    #2777468, posted on July 31, 2018 at 8:38 pm
    Shame that we have had two Prime Ministers here in Australia that were wealthy enough in their own right to give everyone the fork. Money and power are two seperate things. The blithering idiots thought they could buy respect. All that they purchased was loyalty, which is ultimately transferable.

    Sadly nobody in Aus politics has more money than Mal. I believe Kevin has a few bob and he could buy the Liberals, lock, stock and barrel.

  120. Armadillo

    We cant run forever.

    It’s why fences were invented.

  121. Farmer Gez

    Medical facilities, particularly specialists, is a key factor. When you dial 000 after midnight and it an hour or more to the nearest cardiologist, things could get a bit nerve wracking. This was a prime consideration when we relocated to RARA (rural and regional Australia).

    That’s why we have no asylum seekers. Could you imagine the uproar their ABC would make if their country shopping friends had the medical care that rural folks put up with.

  122. Crossie

    I like Bolt but he is a wuss…nice but a wuss.

    Yes, he is. #MeToo.

  123. zyconoclast

    Oh, come on. When have the Indians ever caused social problems in Australia?

    They’re lifting themselves out of poverty in India through capitalism and Westernisation and work hard to better their lives wherever they end up around the globe. We could do at lot worse than accept Indians as immigrants.

    It’s not a specific comment about them.
    I think there are too many immigrants of all types coming in.

  124. mh

    I know there are lots of Koch sympathisers lurking on the thread.

    Yes, let’s out those Koch suckers.

  125. Makka

    The Australian State is preselecting millions of Ponzi imports that are already acclimated to being stacked tight and high in dogboxes and swarming in crowds and being pushed in to packed train carriages.

    And Heaven help the locals who have to share the carriages with same.

    Stop yer whining. Think of the glorious GDPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

  126. Armadillo

    “Lock the Gate” must possibly be the most hypocritical slogan ever invented by the left.

  127. Crossie

    That’s why we have no asylum seekers. Could you imagine the uproar their ABC would make if their country shopping friends had the medical care that rural folks put up with.

    This is the greatest shame on Australian political class. The producers and doers in Australia are small in number and therefore easy to ignore. What’s even worse, they are in remote areas and far away from twenty-something journalists who only report on what’s under their noses.

  128. zyconoclast

    Belgian Club apologizes after hosting event put on by Canadian Nationalist Party

    A board member of the Belgian Club of Winnipeg resigned after the club was the site of a planned nationalist rally on Saturday.

    In a statement posted on its website, the club apologized for hosting the event, organized by the Canadian Nationalist Party, and said it doesn’t reflect its values.

  129. zyconoclast

    Canadian Nationalist Party 21 Point Plan

    A mish mash of some good things with lots of silly stuff.

  130. Armadillo

    Other than “Work sets you free”. That was a doozie.

  131. Infidel Tiger

    Great list.

    Go Canadian Nationalists!

  132. mh

    A board member of the Belgian Club of Winnipeg resigned after the club was the site of a planned nationalist rally on Saturday.

    In a statement posted on its website, the club apologized for hosting the event, organized by the Canadian Nationalist Party, and said it doesn’t reflect its values.

    It’s values are supporting Belgium, I assume.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor candidate laughs off picture of him wearing Lenin T-shirt

    Troy Bramston
    Senior Writer
    @TroyBramston
    8:10AM July 31, 2018

    Labor preselection candidate John Falzon commemorated the 100th anniversary of the Russian Revolution wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with Vladimir Lenin’s face, wearing a Soviet red star lapel pin and standing in front of a Soviet flag.

    Mr Falzon, on leave from his job as chief executive of the St Vincent de Paul Society, is vying for Labor preselection for the seat of Canberra and has the endorsement of the party’s Left faction and several unions.

    The photo obtained by The Australian was taken at a party to mark the centenary of the Russian Revolution and was posted on Facebook by his wife, Jacqui Agius, in November 2017.

    Ms Agius, an industrial officer for the Australian Education Union, is pictured alongside Mr Falzon’s children, Gian Falzon and Gabriela Falzon, and others, in front of the flag of the Soviet Union. “For the many, not the few” said Ms Agius’s Facebook post with “#revolution1917”.

    Lenin, who is pictured on Mr Falzon’s T-shirt, began the regime of political terror with purges and gulags that reached their apogee under Joseph Stalin.

    From the Oz. Puts Trevor Ruthenbergs slip up over medals in the shade? There wouldn’t be one law for Labor, and another for Liberals, would there?

  134. testpattern

    Julie in red white and blue action!

    ‘Guvernu Australia no TL hametin koperasaum iha area seguransa Maritima’

    https://id-id.facebook.com/armindo.crisna.1/videos/842033356001730/

  135. Crossie

    In a statement posted on its website, the club apologized for hosting the event, organized by the Canadian Nationalist Party, and said it doesn’t reflect its values.

    Belgians? What are these people doing in Canada? I believe Belgium takes everyone who arrives, no questions asked. Go for it, Canadian Belgians.

  136. Crossie

    Labor preselection candidate John Falzon commemorated the 100th anniversary of the Russian Revolution wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with Vladimir Lenin’s face, wearing a Soviet red star lapel pin and standing in front of a Soviet flag.

    Mr Falzon, on leave from his job as chief executive of the St Vincent de Paul Society, is vying for Labor preselection for the seat of Canberra and has the endorsement of the party’s Left faction and several unions.

    I wish I knew this a few months ago. Vinnies have received my last donation.

  137. Armadillo

    “For the many, not the few”

    The few carry the burden of many.

    Envy and jealousy are the tools of the left.

  138. Zyconoclast

    Yes, let’s out those Koch suckers.
    😂

  139. Old School Conservative

    I like Bolt but he is a wuss

    …who is a mean street fighter.

  140. Makka

    Remember when Justin from Canada was bigmouthing how he would stand up to crazy Trump at the G7?

    Well, Mexico is cutting it’s deal with the US. Canada, not so much.

    Mexico and the United States agreed last week to step up talks on revamping the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in hopes of reaching an agreement on major issues by August.

    There will be “technical meetings probably until Wednesday and a ministerial meeting on Thursday,” a Mexican source close to the talks told Reuters on Monday. A second Mexican source close to the talks also said a ministerial meeting was planned for Thursday.

    “We will be there,” but it is not yet clear if the meeting will be trilateral and include Canada, said the first source.

  141. Crossie

    Paul Murray has a graphic up about personal bankruptcies. The up, up, up trajectory took off when Malcolm became the PM. What a surprise? He’s got to go, a wet rag would be a better leader than him. On the other hand perhaps not, most of his cabinet needs to be voted out. Dutton is the only one worth saving though I still prefer Andrew Hastie for PM.

  142. Crossie

    Well, Mexico is cutting it’s deal with the US. Canada, not so much.

    As far as I am concerned that’s the only way trade agreements should be negotiated, one to one. It makes it not only much fairer but much more interesting and employs far more negotiators. Everybody wins.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yes, Elle, this resort has wifi connected to the tents. Don’t know if Percy has told anyone but I emailed him that Hairy kept three nites in a tent secret from me. Actually I have just found out they have an electric fence up so lions can’t get into this compound. Hairy and others came back raving about the balloon flight taking in all the wildebeast who have now begun their run up from the Serengheti. More than a million do the trek which also takes in the Ngorongoro Crater in Tanzaneer, an over three thousand square mile area where we also did a safari, staying high in the mists on the crater rim. The wildebeast mate up this way and do a circuit back to the Serengheti, also back in in Tanzaneer. All part of a mating and reproductive cycle, driven by the seasonal availability of various grasses; the run is late this year so we are lucky it has started for us to see it. I will see it from the safari trip this arvo. Just getting my head around the geography of it all. Found a charger for my phone as I forgot mine in the horrendous rush to ‘pack down’ to 12.5 lbs into a safari pak the night we arrived in Nairobi for a 4.40 am start for a flight to Kilimanjaro. Business Class all the way from Sydney but I still hadn’t had much sleep. Met our fellow travellers who had come up from St. Africa by The Blue Train and who were already bonded into a group. Hairy and I too tired to say much at first but we are all good mates by now, having shared a few ad ventures since. I will wait till I get access to my computer back in Nairobi to tell you sensible economic and political things about Tanzaneer and Kenya though as I can’t write easily on my phone or even Hairy’s iPad, which he jealously guards anyway. I cracked my new galaxy 9S on this trip which adds to my communication woes. Will be lurking here on and off though.🙂

  144. Hydra

    I thought one point of charity was to avoid socialism?

    Damn Vinnies, what happened?

  145. Confused Old Misfit

    Canada is out of the talks with Mexico.
    Lighthizer can’t stand Freeland and her too tight red dresses.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Met our fellow travellers who had come up from St. Africa by The Blue Train

    The “Blue Train” and “Rovos Rail” are the last word in luxurious train travel…

  147. .

    Hydra
    #2777501, posted on July 31, 2018 at 9:22 pm
    I thought one point of charity was to avoid socialism?

    Damn Vinnies, what happened?

    I was told today that only a few fringe elements in the church were cuckoo socialists. That advice may need to be reconsidered.

  148. Makka

    mUnty, why did you offer her your brain? You need that cell to breath.

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wants 5 more years on the Supreme Court, and people are offering their organs to keep her healthy

  149. Confused Old Misfit

    Canadian Nationalists a Nuts! I would only consider #13 on transitioning to a two tiered health system as being in any way sensible.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That pak down was 12.5 kilograms not pounds. Wretched smart fone can’t be trusted.

    Ya missed a champagne brekkie out on the Mara this morning, Hairy taunts me, waving his iPad photos. Too bad, I smirk. I slept on.

    You don’t get much sleep on these trips. It’s like the army here.

  151. Mark from Melbourne

    Part 2 in Trump’s hit on the useless open borders fraud Koch Brothers…

    Trump really may be god!

  152. Cassie of Sydney

    https://www.vinnies.org.au/page/About/Our_Structure/Executive_structure_and_our_staff/National_CEO_Dr_John_Falzon/

    This is the cretinous state of the Catholic Church and its institutions such as Vinnies in Australia today. Not interested in morals, scripture, sacraments…only “social justice” and “activism”. I wonder what great Catholic men such as Pope John Paul II, Polish Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński and Hungarian Cardinal Jozsef Mindszenty, who all faced and fought the tyranny of Marxism, think of this capitulation by the church. They must be turning in their graves.

  153. Confused Old Misfit

    Belgians? What are these people doing in Canada?

    A fair number came out after WII as DP’s. Went west for free/cheap farmland. Their spawn still pines for what no longer exists, pre-war Belgium and the atrocities of the Congo.

  154. Cassie of Sydney

    Darling Lizzie, miss you. Hope you and Hairy are having a fantastic time.

  155. .

    Mark A
    #2777419, posted on July 31, 2018 at 7:45 pm
    .
    #2777303, posted on July 31, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Around 40% of our population live in 2 cities. Or much less than .5 % of our land mass. A lot of which you have absolutely no clue about.

    So why don’t people move out of the cities?

    Agriculture and mining are the most productive industries of all, in terms of inter-industry multipliers.

    I assume you know why?
    A hint, not because of the number of people it employs.

    Mining is about 1.9% of all employment in Australia. Agriculture is 2.6%.

    That’s actually pretty impressive. You’ve got to wonder how high it could be with less sleight of hand regulation that sees projects ended months before they take off for the most spurious of reasons.

    The high productivity rate implies a high wage rate.

    Then there are services to mining such as part of the construction industry and EGWW.

    The idea that “there are no jobs” out of cities is incorrect. In mining, the problem is a lack of housing.

    The problem is the workforce has been trained to be largely an army of civil servants. AACo and FMG don’t want policy analysts. A lack of savings and entrepreneurialism is a self-improvement issue.

  156. Makka

    Dr John Falzon, Chief Executive of the St Vincent Paul Society National Council of Australia, is a social analyst, activist and poet. He has worked in academia, community development, research and advocacy. He has written and spoken widely on the structural causes of inequality in Australia and the collective struggle for social justice and is a regular media commentator. He is the author of The language of the unheard (2012) and Communists Like Us, a collection of poems released in 2017.

    Commo.

  157. Dave in Marybrook

    Z2KA-
    Don’t be too cut up about missing a “Welcome To “Country”” lecture.
    They’re all piss and wind.
    I had the honour, and I mean it, of an invitation to a community-run catchment group’s 20th anniversary drinks. Established by my father and others, and my wife currently serves.

    The WtC was performed by a famous entrepreneur- it started with a fantasy of savage nobility, went through a rambling re-imagining of colonial history, encompassed a fanciful imagining of Aboriginal tribes sharing equally amongst themselves and incredibly only taking what they needed from the environment, traditional times for eating nocturnal, offshore and line-caught things like squid (if there’s a local word for squid, I certainly can’t find it) forgoing feasting on anything in it’s breeding season (so no eggs, squab, spawning fish…), using every last skerrick of what has been killed (that one was probably imported wholly from North American mythology), renaming just about every local feature, whether it carried an Aboriginal name or not… and it ended with a stunning didge routine with electronic disco backing.
    It was fiction, from start to finish.
    The visiting (Labour) minister creamed his daks, and crowed “we haven’t even scratched the surface of Aboriginal water management knowledge”.
    The outgoing chairman, and MC for the event, never even gave a nod to the poseur. Which is as it should be- I can’t recall anyone from an Aboriginal perspective giving any time, knowledge, diaries, journals, or even mucking in for a revegetation project- it’s all Euro Enlightenment science stuff, and Euro community spirit stuff. The multimillion dollar Aboriginal Interpretive Centre has been mothballed- no-one turns up to staff it, even with tours booked. The improv didge spirit guide guns around in a $90K Landcruiser with his Dreaming company contact details transferred on the spotless paintwork, ready to jump in front of a camera, take the stage for an award, or charge $2400 for a Welcome to Country.
    I’ll never suffer one again (although I did see a graceful number with my gran a week later, which was honest, secular and short). Welcomes To Country are a creation of poseurs for a market of people who don’t know any better.

  158. Roger

    This is the cretinous state of the Catholic Church and its institutions such as Vinnies in Australia today.

    Seeking Labor preselection for Canberra, I believe.

  159. zyconoclast

    Report: Marines lead all services in binge drinking, sex partners

    Sexual Behavior and Health

    We examined sexual behavior that poses a risk to health, including sex with more than one partner, sex with a new partner without using a condom, experience of a sexually transmitted infection, inconsistent use of birth control during most-recent vaginal sex, and unintended pregnancy. Key findings include the following:

    Among active-duty service members, 19.4 percent (CI: 18.0–20.8) reported more than one sex partner in the past year.
    More than one-third (36.7 percent; CI: 35.0–38.3) of service members reported sex with a new partner in the past year without using a condom.
    A sexually transmitted infection in the past year was reported by 1.7 percent (CI: 1.2–2.2) of service members.
    The 2015 HRBS defines high risk for human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection as having sex with more than one partner in the past year, having a past-year sexually transmitted infection other than HIV, or being a man who had sex with one or more men in the past year. Among service members, 20.9 percent (CI: 19.5–22.4) were at high risk for HIV infection.
    More than one in five (22.2 percent; CI: 20.7–23.7) service members used a condom when they last had vaginal sex in the past year; among unmarried and noncohabiting service members, 34.8 percent (CI: 31.9–37.7) reported doing so.
    Among service members not already expecting a child or trying to conceive, 19.4 percent (CI: 18.1–20.7) did not use birth control the most-recent time they had vaginal sex in the past year. The percentage was 24.0 percent (CI: 22.3–25.7) among married or cohabiting service members, which is about twice the percentage among those who were unmarried or noncohabiting (12.2 percent; CI: 10.2–14.1).
    Across all services, 2.4 percent (CI: 1.9–2.9) of service members reported experiencing or causing an unintended pregnancy in the past year.

    Sexual Orientation, Transgender Identity, and Health

    The 2015 HRBS provides the first direct estimate of the percentage of service personnel who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT). It also provides the first examination of the health behavior and health status of LGBT service members. Key findings include the following:

    LGBT personnel constituted 6.1 percent (CI: 5.3–6.9) of all service members. The Navy had the highest overall percentage of LGBT personnel and of gay or bisexual men serving, and the Marine Corps had the highest percentage of lesbian or bisexual women serving.
    LGBT personnel reported routine medical care in percentages equivalent to non-LGBT personnel, with 81.7 percent (CI: 76.4–87.0) reporting a routine checkup in the past year.
    LGBT personnel were less likely to be overweight than non-LGBT personnel but were more likely to report smoking, binge drinking, and risky sexual behavior.
    LGBT personnel were also more likely than non-LGBT personnel to report depression, non-suicidal self-injury, suicide ideation or attempts, unwanted sexual contact, and physical abuse.

  160. Fisky

    The Koch brothers have done more than anyone to flip GOP states like Virginia to blue. They are utter poison and their dumb strategy of enriching the plutocracy while importing millions of Democrat voters is going to elect socialists all over the country. It is time to break the “libertarian” movement apart and innoculate healthy center-right politics from its influence!

  161. Roger

    Seeking Labor preselection for Canberra, I believe.

    Mentioned up thread, I see.

  162. Boambee John

    Hydra
    #2777501, posted on July 31, 2018 at 9:22 pm
    I thought one point of charity was to avoid socialism?

    Damn Vinnies, what happened?

    Access to taxpayer funds enabling high paid “professional” managers?

  163. .

    Dr John Falzon … a social analyst, activist and poet

    Of course. A “social analyst” and he’s a poet.

    So was Charlie Manson.

    written and spoken widely on the structural causes of inequality in Australia

    Sure, he’s tinkered with a CGE model and some panel data econometric models.

    It is like how I lazily design railway bridges or perform minor surgery in my spare time.

  164. In a development that should surprise no one, CL’s triumphant crowing about Trump’s deal with NK meriting a Nobel as the greatest achievement in world peace in decades has been exposed as a complete joke.

  165. Roger

    In my experience as a university lecturer, Indians, etc. don’t quite understand the concept of “original work”. Plagiarism of references was rife among Indian students.

    An Indian acquaintance attributes this to the Indian education system being very focused on the student’s demonstration of the mastery of set material by repetition of it rather than demonstrating the internalisation of what has been learned by being able to express it in his own words. It remains at an elemental level, even in the university.

  166. Hydra

    Hydra
    #2777501, posted on July 31, 2018 at 9:22 pm
    I thought one point of charity was to avoid socialism?

    Damn Vinnies, what happened?

    Access to taxpayer funds enabling high paid “professional” managers?

    Good call. Professional managers who lobby for more taxpayer funds.

  167. Makka

    Next, Trump will fix Iran too.

    Donald Trump says he is willing to meet with Iran with ‘no preconditions’

    United States President Donald Trump has said he will “certainly meet” with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, and without preconditions, if the Iranian leader was willing.

    “I’ll meet with anybody,” he said.

    “There’s nothing wrong with meeting.”

    The overture comes as Mr Trump and the Iranians have been escalating their rhetoric after Mr Trump’s May withdrawal from the landmark nuclear accord.

  168. Des Deskperson

    The PoC won Masterchef, the whitey went down

    SJWs will be pleased.

  169. mh

    Very funny, Monty. Washpo quoting nobody.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    encompassed a fanciful imagining of Aboriginal tribes sharing equally amongst themselves and incredibly only taking what they needed from the environment, traditional times for eating nocturnal, offshore and line-caught things like squid (if there’s a local word for squid, I certainly can’t find it) forgoing feasting on anything in it’s breeding season (so no eggs, squab, spawning fish…), using every last skerrick of what has been killed (that one was probably imported wholly from North American mythology), renaming just about every local feature, whether it carried an Aboriginal name or not… and it ended with a stunning didge routine with electronic disco backing.

    I’m remembering a certain, prominent, Aboriginal social justice warrior, in Western Australia, a few years ago, informing the gullible

    “Oh, nah, life before the white man came, wasn’t so bad. Two, three days hunting get you enough tucker to feed the whole mob for a week. Plenty of time for dancing, the ceremonies, teaching the young their song lines….

  171. C.L.

    In a development that should surprise no one, CL’s triumphant crowing about Trump’s deal with NK meriting a Nobel as the greatest achievement in world peace in decades has been exposed as a complete joke.

    U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles
    LOL. Just like Saddam Hussein!
    I read the article. Not one single source named.
    Fake news.
    But what Trump has already achieved with North Korea, POWs and detente with the south merits a Nobel, quite aside from what transpires in the years ahead. And yes, it is the most noteworthy foreign policy breakthrough since Reagan. That’s unquestionable. You have to remember that Obama got a Nobel for being half black. We’ve come a long way since those shameful days of endless fail.

  172. rickw

    Oh, come on. When have the Indians ever caused social problems in Australia?

    They’re lifting themselves out of poverty in India through capitalism and Westernisation and work hard to better their lives wherever they end up around the globe. We could do at lot worse than accept Indians as immigrants.

    Why accept them? Why do we need them? What is the purpose of immigration?

    Most Indians I’ve spoken to in Australia are intent on going back to India now that Australia is rooted.

  173. Steve trickler

    This bloke is ruthless. Wow!



  174. Makka

    U.S. spy agencies = Brennan.

    Sad!

  175. .

    Donald Trump says he is willing to meet with Iran with ‘no preconditions’

    He really needs to meet with the Ayatollah.

  176. Some History

    The Navy had the highest overall percentage of LGBT personnel and of gay or bisexual men serving…

    New recruitment video – In the Navy

  177. Roger

    Most Indians I’ve spoken to in Australia are intent on going back to India now that Australia is rooted.

    I’d take that with a grain of salt, rick.

    A service station console operator in Australia earns about twice what a doctor does in India and about ten times what an Indian engineer earns…if he has a job, that is, as they are oversupplied in that area, while an MBA in India might see you working in a call centre for a Western company.

    The family back home that invested so much to get them here is relying on their repatriated funds.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Navy had the highest overall percentage of LGBT personnel and of gay or bisexual men serving…

    Homosexual conduct, in the Royal Australian Navy, is completely legal after forty eight hours at sea.

    Hence the old morning call “Wakey, wakey, out of your mates, and into your “Eights”,”

  179. Makka

    Sessions is rolling up the leakers ;

    The Great Leak Hunt
    A special FBI unit is mapping the network of partisan leakers between agencies and media

    While there were many important issues facing the incoming Trump administration in January 2017, the most serious one it faced was this: a network of Obama/Clinton partisans who were already demonstrating a commitment to a strategy of leaking classified information, in order to sabotage the incoming president and his team.

    The indictment of James Wolfe, the former Senate Intelligence Committee head of security whose job involved the handling of classified documents makes it clear he was first confronted by FBI leak hunters in December. That means he quietly resigned from the job, and then… nothing happened for six months until his being charged was made public this past June.

    During those six months, despite the fact that multiple reporters were involved in the leak investigation, nothing about it was leaked in the media. The Wolfe indictment hit as a complete surprise.

    So will the other indictments, when the leak hunters are ready to reveal them.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-great-leak-hunt_2606432.html

  180. C.L.

    U.S. spy agencies = Brennan.

    The communist-voting traitor Brennan does however totally believe the Iranians are dismantling.

    —————

    Meant KIA, above, not POWs.

  181. .

    One for JC

    People are desperate for sharks as therapy pets, or something:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45016893

  182. Snoopy

    Trump knew his offer to meet with the Iranian president would be rebuffed before he made it. Another message to the Iranian people as to who is responsible for their plight.

  183. Crossie

    Damn Vinnies, what happened?

    Access to taxpayer funds enabling high paid “professional” managers?

    Pretty much what happened to World Vision and Tim Costello. Once he/they got the taste of Australian taxpayer funds we were evil monsters for withholding it from him/them.

  184. JC

    Just remember what the shark owner told the Journal reporter, Dot. She said the sharks were messing “with the vibe” of the other fish in the tank. In other words the other fish were shitting themselves.

  185. rickw

    I’d take that with a grain of salt, rick.

    Older ones: There is no future for my kids here with the people that have been let in to the country.

    Younger ones: I can have a better lifestyle in India than Australia, I will earn less but I can buy more.

    These comments are not universal, but there is a consistent underlying theme.

  186. Crossie

    He really needs to meet with the Ayatollah.

    Why? The ayatollah is not the head of state, the president is. Unless you are stating that the president is only the figurehead and the ayatollah is the real power behind the throne.

  187. Infidel Tiger

    China is set to participate for the first time in Australia’s premier multilateral naval war games, Exercise ­Kakadu.

    Defence Minister Marise Payne last night confirmed China’s involvement, a possible breakthrough in the diplomatic spat between Canberra and Beijing over foreign interference and Australia’s vocal opposition to Chinese militarisation in the South China Sea.

    OMG.

    First they flood the country with third worlders… now this.

  188. JC

    Interesting piece in the Federalist.

    Sets out very clearly, the Drats are up to their necks in Russian collusion. Explains it very well.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/facts-behind-trump-tower-meeting-incriminating-not-trump/

  189. Crossie

    I wonder if the protests and the unrest in Iran are the actual struggle between the presidency and the ayatollahs.

  190. Nerblnob

    The family back home that invested so much to get them here is relying on their repatriated funds.

    There are a lot of wealthier middle-class Indians who do not need repatriated funds but want to see their kids do well. At the moment, that means UK or USA/Canada, not Australia.

    So, Australia is not getting the better ones any more.

  191. Crossie

    China is set to participate for the first time in Australia’s premier multilateral naval war games, Exercise ­Kakadu.

    Defence Minister Marise Payne last night confirmed China’s involvement, a possible breakthrough in the diplomatic spat between Canberra and Beijing over foreign interference and Australia’s vocal opposition to Chinese militarisation in the South China Sea.

    Let the Chinese practice in Kakadu, it will convince them to stay away.

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Let the Chinese practice in Kakadu, it will convince them to stay away.

    They may decide what the Imperial Japanese Army decided in Wobbly Wobbly Two – it’s too far way and we don’t have the troops to occupy the place, or the shipping to resupply those troops?

  193. rickw

    OMG.

    First they flood the country with third worlders… now this.

    China: OMG, that’s not a Navy…

  194. JC

    The abortion story today sort of reminds me of the evil and bizarre inverted morality concocted by the Nazis Martin Durkin wrote about a few years ago.

    The Nazis conducted horrific experiments on children (I have seen footage so upsetting it cannot be shown on TV) but at the same time they banned medical experiments on animals. The same Nazi monsters who committed crimes of unimaginable barbarity also advocated vegetarianism, organic agriculture, forest preservation and homeopathic healthcare. How can we possibly explain this? What was the connection between the inhuman brutality of the Nazis and their gushing idealization of ˜Nature”?

  195. Crossie

    There are a lot of wealthier middle-class Indians who do not need repatriated funds but want to see their kids do well. At the moment, that means UK or USA/Canada, not Australia.

    So, Australia is not getting the better ones any more.

    We were in Vancouver in 1991 when the Chinese and Indians were the main arrivals there. Australia became a destination only after Canada started questioning their policies.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    There’s no point Indians immigrating here if we keep importing more Indians.

    FFS. You came here to escape the street shitters not be surrounded by them.

  197. Old School Conservative

    Paul Murray seems to be defending James Gunn.
    The damage Murray does in agreeing agree with Gunn that his tasteless tweets were “jokes” is shocking.
    The extenuating circumstances? It was 10 years ago not now. It wouldn’t have surfaced unless someone went looking for dirt. They were words not actions.
    I call BS on all of those excuses, and PML descends lower in my estimation.

  198. Makka

    There are a lot of wealthier middle-class Indians who do not need repatriated funds but want to see their kids do well. At the moment, that means UK or USA/Canada, not Australia.

    The UK and the US are cutting back in Indian student visas. Here, ours are up 14%.

    Permanent Res is the hook;

    “Besides, the course also helps to network with future employers and meet people from the industry,” says Singh, who is hopeful that he will find a job and get on the fast track to permanent residency.”

    Read more at:
    //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/64044929.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

  199. egg_

    The idea that “there are no jobs” out of cities is incorrect. In mining, the problem is a lack of housing.

    Pick a location and we’ll do a real world analysis, rather than theoretical crap – Moranbah?

  200. .

    No egg, quite a few remote real-world locations in WA were like that a few years back.

    What’s the problem with Moranbah? Seems to be going quite well now, more mine jobs.

    Houses do not seem unaffordable, not like Alice Springs or capital cities.

  201. egg_

    Most Indians I’ve spoken to in Australia are intent on going back to India now that Australia is rooted.

    +1

    Sh1t wages nowadays.

  202. egg_

    Analyse away, egg

    The real estate cycle is a direct correlation of the mining boom-bust cycle, as are the HSVs for sale on the roadside.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The idea that “there are no jobs” out of cities is incorrect

    Any one I know, with a skilled trade, or a profession, has no difficulty in finding work, in regional Australia.The problem arises with the pleasant fantasy that the unemployed/refugees will accept the unskilled, seasonable work – tree planting, fencing, erosion control, lamb tailing… the list goes on… which they won’t. They are to be found employment, with dignity, and meaning…

  204. egg_

    Most Indians I’ve spoken to in Australia are intent on going back to India now that Australia is rooted.

    Coloured flight.

  205. Makka

    In mining, the problem is a lack of housing.

    Houses, units, apartments, townhouses for sale in Moranbah;

    Showing 1 – 20 of 122 total results

    No lack of housing there.

    Newman WA;

    Showing 1 – 20 of 35 total results.

    Could be a bit tight but then Newman always is.

    I think that if there is a “problem” in mining it the distance of the resource from adequate infrastructure combined with a workforce that wants FIFO family time. Some of these mining towns are shitholes to be honest, infested with abo problems that many families prefer not to experience.

    The other “problem” of course is the Green tape associated with getting a project of the ground. State Govt Enviro laws and Depts are positively Marxist in their intent.

  206. mh

    Trump putting out fires lit by Giuliani:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn’t matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!

  207. Makka

    The other “problem” of course is the Green tape associated with getting a project of the ground. State Govt Enviro laws and Depts are positively Marxist in their intent.

    Not to mention the Indidge minefields where 2 rocks piled up becomes and instant sacred burial site requiring years of expert anthropological assessment.

    Housing is the least of mining’s problems.

  208. .

    I think they are beyond (worse than) Marxist which is a hell of an effort in the wrong direction. Try “Annihilation of the Self”. The USSR would just knock shit down if it was deemed necessary.

    The politburo did not ramble on about Speckled Frog Fancier’s Toads and Yowie’s Little Geckos that happen to pop up WHEREVER a new development happens to be.

  209. egg_

    Not to mention the Indidge minefields where 2 rocks piled up becomes and instant sacred burial site requiring years of expert anthropological assessment.

    In New England NSW there are ‘sacred trees’ FFS that just happen to be on a Lockheed-Martin lease from CSIRO.

  210. What’s the problem with Moranbah?

    It’s basically a mining town now. Like nearly all mining towns in Australia, it’s in the middle of nowhere, out back of beyond. Wives don’t want to live there, and any form of higher education – including most apprenticeships – mean kids have to leave home.

    At any time the mine could close down, or be mothballed, like BHP’s much vaunted, but never realised, nickel mining down Esperance way. Or automated, as is happening right now in the iron ore mining industry in WA. As has been demonstrated time and again in WA, FIFO is the preferred option for both workers and management alike.

  211. Bobman

    Noticed a liar on page 3 re the appointment of Betts.

    Betts was a new magistrate appointed by Hulls in the Bracks government. This took place in early 2000.

  212. zyconoclast

    As has been demonstrated time and again in WA, FIFO is the preferred option for both workers and management alike.

    But the all important ABS does not like it. Soem headlines

    -Mental health distress more prevalent among FIFO workers than general community

    -FIFO workers feel financially shackled to job despite toll on relationships

    -FIFO workers under stress, and financial rewards in doubt

    -FIFO workers feel ‘disconnected’ from partners: new study

    -Why regions can’t persuade fly-in fly-out workers to live locally

    -Inpex: Former worker lambasts FIFO workplace culture after recent death

    and this one
    100pc fly-in, fly-out workforces banned in major Queensland mines

  213. zyconoclast

    But the all important ABS does not like it. Soem headlines

    Should read: ABC and Some

  214. zyconoclast

    Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt has bowed to pressure and agreed to tear up the controversial legislation behind the My Health Record to protect patients from having their medical records accessed by police.

    Following crisis talks with the head of the Australian Medical Association in Melbourne on Tuesday night, Mr Hunt confimed in a statement that the My Health Record Act will be redrafted.

    “The amendment will ensure no record can be released to police or government agencies, for any purpose, without a court order,” the statement said.

  215. C.L.

    China is set to participate for the first time in Australia’s premier multilateral naval war games, Exercise ­Kakadu.

    The Chinese now own the Australian parliament.
    Turnbull should be tried for treason.
    But hey, look over there: Trump met with Putin.

  216. .

    What if China behind closed doors backs Trump against NK and Russia?

    Just a possibility.

  217. zyconoclast

    Indigenous playwright: Australian theatre is ‘whitesplaining’ stories

    But instead of revelling in the standing ovation on Friday night and the warm reviews over the weekend, Indigenous playwright H. Lawrence Sumner was upset about the latest example of what he called “whitesplaining” Aboriginal stories in Australian theatre.

    Sumner has withdrawn a second play from the STC and believes it is time for a national Aboriginal theatre company, to avoid plays being “hijacked” by non-Indigenous directors telling stories from their own perspective.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    The Americans will be absolutely disgusted with this treasonous act.

    We are already viewed as being heavily compromised as an ally. This is the final straw.

  219. JC

    I very much doubt we would be doing naval exercises with China without US blessing. Surely?

  220. Makka

    Zyco, there are a lot of people on FIFO that really are not suited. Moreso wives that are not suited to it. I’ve had to let dudes fly home because his missus couldn’t function because the dog was hit by a car or the kid had a toothache. They like the idea of the big money but have no clue or the fortitude to deal with the sacrifices and separation.

  221. Mitch M.

    The Nazis conducted horrific experiments on children (I have seen footage so upsetting it cannot be shown on TV) but at the same time they banned medical experiments on animals. The same Nazi monsters who committed crimes of unimaginable barbarity also advocated vegetarianism, organic agriculture, forest preservation and homeopathic healthcare. How can we possibly explain this? What was the connection between the inhuman brutality of the Nazis and their gushing idealization of ˜Nature”?

    JC I have read Human Behavior in the Concentration Camp by Cohen(1953), who was a prisoner in Auschwitz. Read it once, never could bring myself to read it again. Truly horrific.

  222. Oh come on

    Immigrants from the Indian diaspora are great. Same with immigrants from the Chinese diaspora. It’s the mainlanders that are the problem. They aren’t sending their best, as a wise man once said.

  223. C.L.

    But instead of revelling in the standing ovation on Friday night and the warm reviews over the weekend, Indigenous playwright H. Lawrence Sumner was upset about the latest example of what he called “whitesplaining” Aboriginal stories in Australian theatre.

    Sumner has withdrawn a second play from the STC and believes it is time for a national Aboriginal theatre company, to avoid plays being “hijacked” by non-Indigenous directors telling stories from their own perspective.

    Whitesplaining bad.
    Whitepaying good.

  224. .

    This is a bit flippant but who are we to judge Indians with our own special rugby league boys and a poo jogger in Sydney and Brisbane.

    I’ve worked in hospitality and the number of people who do not wash their hands at a restaurant or pub after pissing or shitting is remarkable.

  225. Makka

    What were you doing in the dunnies, dotty? Policing hygeine?

  226. I’ve worked in hospitality and the number of people who do not wash their hands at a restaurant or pub after pissing or shitting is remarkable.

    In most public buildings, but especially pubs. shopping centres, and fast food restaurants like Mackas, the germiest place is the inside handle on the rest room exit door.

  227. Armadillo

    He really needs to meet with the Ayatollah.

    Correct. In fact, he should demand it. Big fish, small pond.

    Walk straight to the front door. Be polite. If he doesn’t answer the knock, kick the door in.

    Iran isn’t exactly a powerhouse of the world. They could be, but their clerical retarded overlords keep them poor. Religion as a weapon has proved to be the most destructive force in the world. Atheism even worse (by far).

    Nationalism has been degraded by socialism, but the former is resurgent. Building fences versus destroying them is the argument.

    Democracy is the closest we will ever come. Even that is being eaten away at from within. The stacking of judges and parliamentarians is ridiculous. There seems to be no rules anymore.

    The revolution will come, as all others have (h/t Anne). IT will man the guillotine, and Calli the Kartcher.

  228. .

    Well

    Licenced venues are not meant to allow drug use. The penalties can be severe.

    This is why:

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-pubs-are-flooded-with-cocaine/news-story/68d227a2d1b2520c681fe96cd2922488

    One of a few reasons. Fights, public sex…there are actually quite a few things. Not a glamour industry.

  229. .

    LOL

    As a rule, unisex toilets are basically a good place to score drugs and a publicly acceptable area to take drugs.

    Gee, who would have expected Ivy and Goldfish to make it on that list!?

  230. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #2777607, posted on August 1, 2018 at 12:20 am

    I’ve worked in hospitality and the number of people who do not wash their hands at a restaurant or pub after pissing or shitting is remarkable.

    In most public buildings, but especially pubs. shopping centres, and fast food restaurants like Mackas, the germiest place is the inside handle on the rest room exit door.

    True I’ve seen people doing the most bizarre things to avoid grabbing them, I simply carry a wad of fresh toilet paper or a sheet of paper towel if available, to grab the handle with.

  231. Armadillo

    Trump needs to meet with as many world leaders as possible. Detente is a stupid option. Cards need to be laid on the table. A Presidency is short. Eyeball the fuckers and tell them exactly what is going to happen.

    The Muller investigation is about to end. September 1st. A line has been drawn.

  232. Armadillo

    Killing season in the US. Expect Trump to ramp it up. August 2018 will be exciting. Everything points to a date a month yonder, 18 years on. The ultimate showman.

  233. Armadillo

    07 + 11 = 18 (h/t Anne)

  234. Hydra

    At the old nightclub I used to work at we would boot out half a dozen people a night for doing drugs in the toilets and they were just the ones we caught.

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