Monday Forum: August 13, 2018

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  1. Boambee John

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale said if Senator Anning had a shred of decency he would apologise, saying using the same language as Nazis was vile, racist and bigoted.

    If Greens leader Richard Di Natale had a shred of decency he would apologise, as he often uses the same language as Nazis. We should remember that H1tler was a non- drinking, anti- smoking zealot who was also an animal welfare supporting environmentalist, on top of being vile, racist and bigoted.

    Fixed that for you Richard!

  2. calli

    Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. – C.S. Lewis

    I think you would be brave, Cactus, simply because you wonder if you would be.

  3. Spider

    Did Bill Shorten just say that immigrants to Australia should adhere to “Australian values” ?

    I didn’t think that “Australian values”as such existed? Or so we are told by all the left loonies.

  4. TV is so funny this morning. Politicians of all stripes, whose policies include severe reductions to immigration, are condemning Fraser Anning for….. opposing immigration.

  5. Boambee John

    Tel at 0835

    it’s us deciding to abandon our own legal system.

    I realise that you were speaking generically, but I am not one of those “us” you mentioned!

    😀😀

  6. DrBeauGan

    There are plenty of opportunities to be brave. Standing up for what you believe at dinner parties infested by lefties, for example. Few can manage it.

  7. Rae

    Is there a greater living Australian than Keith Payne?

    Those running interference for Roberts-Smith seem to think Payne is useful. Trying to put a lid on unfavourable findings about their hero.

  8. Serious question: Is there anybody who actually reads either Test Pattern or Rae/Grigory?

  9. Elle

    Senator Anning had a right to use those words and I have the right to say he is an arrogant a*se hole.

  10. Elle

    Serena, I read everyone. I am very well-read. 🙃

  11. … it’s us deciding to abandon our own legal system.

    This is undoubtedly true but it includes more than just our legal system, it’s also our culture and history. Still, it elides an important point. The mass introduction of peoples with strikingly different cultures, mores, and histories, is itself purposed to weaken just that, our culture, history and mores by using principles and practices that where themselves only ever meant to resolve an intramural dispute in Christendom.

  12. Leo G

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale said if Senator Anning had a shred of decency he would apologise, saying using the same language euphemism as Nazis was vile, racist and bigoted.

    FIFY
    In any case, using the same language as those Nazis would be “abscheulich, rassistisch und bigott”.

  13. Geriatric Mayfly

    Serious question: Is there anybody who actually reads either Test Pattern or Rae/Grigory?

    The former I do read at times, being a person interested in primal origins of the English language.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    Is there a greater living Australian than Keith Payne?

    Winx.

  15. Snoopy

    How many members’ maiden speeches are ever featured on the nightly news and the front pages of newspapers? Thanks for playing, ALP and Greens. Thanks for playing, journalists (BIRM).

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    Will there ever be a Final Solution to this calling people Nazis for using the words Final and Solution problem?
    Asking for a friend.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Serious question: Is there anybody who actually reads either Test Pattern or Rae/Grigory?

    Watching Test Pattern get shot down in flames makes for amusing reading.

  18. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Wong chap is on his hind trotters in the Senate going of about inclusion etc etc etc Something has set him off this morning.

  19. Snoopy

    That Go Fund Me image is stale, Stimpy. The total is now 351k with a target of 500k.

    Hoovering money off stupid. Who could object?

  20. C.L.

    Funny how this nation’s newspapers never commission polls on whether Australians want more or fewer Muslim and African immigrants.

  21. DrBeauGan

    C.L.
    #2789262, posted on August 15, 2018 at 9:40 am
    Funny how this nation’s newspapers never commission polls on whether Australians want more or fewer Muslim and African immigrants.

    We’d get the wrong answer, CL. And they know it.

  22. Elle

    Stimpy, the word Nazi is thrown out there a lot. Used best in Feminazi.

  23. Cactus

    There are plenty of opportunities to be brave. Standing up for what you believe at dinner parties infested by lefties, for example. Few can manage it.

    I have done that too many times. Wife has only so much patience. I have now been trying to change the ship towards “I don’t want to ruin the dinner party, can we just agree to disagree and change the topic?”. Once started I can be a bit of a dog with a bone on a topic.

    I also perhaps border on ‘smartest guy in the room’ arrogant at times. Climate Change is probably the big one that causes issues. I have made it one of my hobbies and so know both sides arguments well. Most people at dinner parties only have superficial knowledge of the warmy argument. Its like bringing a knife to a gun-fight. I have been trying to calm down and now don’t engage and tell them to research the topic themselves. But jeez its such an important topic and the ignorance of smart people is profound.

  24. Baldrick

    Fraser Anning uses the term Final Solution to describe refugees = bad

    Leftards using the term Final Solution to describe refugees = good

    THE Russell @THE_Russell
    Disgraced ex-Qld copper Dutton has defined a “Final Solution” to rid Manus and Nauru of what he calls “non-white vermin…”
    _____
    Emperor God Goughlam @leftocentre
    That’s down to the LNP.
    They turned Manus and Nauru into Concentration Camps. They weren’t intended as a final solution by Labor
    _____
    Claire Connelly ✔ @_ClaireConnelly
    Australia’s final solution. Make no mistake, Turnbull and Dutton are waiting for these people to die, so they don’t have to find a diplomatic solution.
    _____
    Ming The Merciless @MGliksmanMDPhD
    Manus Island detention centre to close. Dopey Dutton searches for Final Solution to his refugee question.

    (just a very small sample)

  25. Boambee John

    Picked up via Instapundit

    Antifa is the future of the Democrats

    Let’s get something straight: Antifa is the fascist arm of the Democratic Party. If you want to know where the party is headed, look where its youths are. Antifa speaks for all Democrats when it chants, “No border, no wall, no USA at all!”

    Think not? People in the 1970s blew off the Weather Underground as radicals who had nothing to do with the party.

    But whom did Democrats nominate in 2008? And who was his political mentor? And who was his religious mentor? And who was the communist he put in charge of the CIA?

    This was no accident or coincidence. Democrats have plotted this for 50 years, going back to Teddy the Drunk Kennedy’s first immigration reform, which he reformed again 31 years later, which 32 years later, they want to reform as open borders — which was their goal all along.

    Democrats want to rule with no opposition. You don’t get that without being a third world nation and you don’t get a third world nation without importing millions of third world people.

    Antifa here are the UNiparty darlings of our self-selected so-called “elites”. It would take very little rephrasing to make these words match the situation here.

    Of course, our very own reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment, m0nty, is a supporter of Antifa. But only from a distance, he is “too old” to dirty his hands by actually fighting for his favoured cause.

  26. Can we see the offending paragraph spoken by the Senator?

  27. Boambee John

    DrBeauGan
    #2789244, posted on August 15, 2018 at 9:22 am
    There are plenty of opportunities to be brave. Standing up for what you believe at dinner parties infested by lefties, for example. Few can manage it.

    Spoke up in favour of Trump over Shrillary at lunch yesterday. We “agreed to differ”.

  28. Cactus

    Btw on the NEG debate and renewables. It seems the Liberal position is something like 28% renewables in the grid, Labour wants 45% and both sides are saying Renewables make electricity cheaper. Logically we should therefore vote in Labor to implement their policy. But I have just one quibble, why don’t we go to 100% and get real cheap electricity?

  29. Snoopy

    Climate Change is probably the big one that causes issues. I have made it one of my hobbies and so know both sides arguments well. Most people at dinner parties only have superficial knowledge of the warmy argument.

    Tell them you take climate change very seriously and ask them to turn the lights off. For the planet.

  30. .

    Democrats want to rule with no opposition. You don’t get that without being a third world nation and you don’t get a third world nation without importing millions of third world people.

    I don’t buy this. Clinton had a lot of the same policies as Trump when he was President.

    The Democrats are being oppositionally defiant. If Trump was for open borders, they’d be ethnic nationalists.

    Sending that kid back to Cuba was in my opinion worse than keeping children in well-appointed Federal facilities. Of course, the Democrats don’t talk about this and they make out that Trump keeps “kidsin cages”.

  31. Snoopy

    But I have just one quibble, why don’t we go to 100% and get real cheap electricity?

    Real cheap? It should be free just like wind and sunlight.

  32. Boambee John

    I scroll past test pattern’s interminable liftings (droppings?) from Trove, but look at some of his other posts out of morbid curiousity.

    The others are strictly scroll past.

  33. What is this “Dinner Party” of which so many Cats speak?

  34. OldOzzie

    Victorian Policing at work in Sweden

    As Sweden’s SVT reports, the police have identified several of the young people who were in place at the fires in Trollhättan and confirmed that there is suspicion that the action has been coordinated.

    “We have already started talking to parents with the parents in the morning, who were in place. We chose not to seize someone but have identified them and talked with them, “said Ulla Brehm.

    We have an update on the situation.

    The Swedish police spokeswoman Ulla Brehm says that they have DECIDED to NOT arrest anyone over the riots last night.

    Instead they have identified them and will be talking with their families.

    This has caused an outcry amongst Conservatives. https://t.co/y9s810CfSJ
    — PeterSweden (@PeterSweden7) August 14, 2018

    Based on testimonies and the fact that the fires started about at the same time, the police suspect that the actions may have been coordinated through social media.

  35. Elle

    Dover, it wasn’t his speech or a paragraph that upset some (me), it was the phrase he used. Overall it was a good speech.

  36. Snoopy

    The Democrats are being oppositionally defiant. If Trump was for open borders, they’d be ethnic nationalists.

    That’s unreasonably optimistic.

  37. I have been trying to calm down and now don’t engage and tell them to research the topic themselves

    What works for me –
    Q. “Have you had the time to research the topic, in depth?” A. “errr, no”

    “I have. Do you you want to know what I found?”

    The most common line I hear is “How could all of the media, our scientists and politicians be mistaken?”
    This tests the patience.

  38. Cactus

    What is this “Dinner Party” of which so many Cats speak?

    Serena I take it from your musings your are from central or north Queensland. I am in Sydney and an expat NQer. Of the things to do down here in inner city Sydney it is very popular to have people over for dinner, have some chardonnay and talk to each other about where you live & property prices. Its what you do.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Cactus
    #2789266, posted on August 15, 2018 at 9:48 am
    There are plenty of opportunities to be brave. Standing up for what you believe at dinner parties infested by lefties, for example. Few can manage it.

    I have done that too many times. Wife has only so much patience.

    Women are part of the problem. Few of them can handle confrontation of ideas, they find submission easier; but given the damage that lefties are doing, submission isn’t an option.

  40. Snoopy

    Manafort Faces 300 Yrs Prison Time For Being Trump’s Campaign Manager

    #FakeNews

  41. Rae

    Can we see the offending paragraph spoken by the Senator?

    The senator then invoked the term “final solution” in calling for his preferred plebiscite on the “immigration problem”.

    “The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”

    Myabe he could have said “The final resolution” or “The immigration problem could be resolve once and for all by a popular vote”. But, its just words after all. What he meant is abundantly clear, and not what others have inferred.

  42. stackja

    dover_beach
    #2789272, posted on August 15, 2018 at 9:54 am
    Can we see the offending paragraph spoken by the Senator?

    Ethnocultural diversity, which is known to undermine social cohesion, has been allowed to rise to dangerous levels in many suburbs. In direct response, self-segregation, including white flight from poorer inner-urban areas, has become the norm. I believe that immigration to our country should be a privilege, not an obligation-free right provided to anyone from the Third World who demands it.

    First, 457 visas, which simply steal jobs from Australians, should be abolished unless expressly approved by the immigration minister. This will create more jobs for Australians and end the massive rorting of these for backdoor permanent immigration. Second, ‘family reunion’ must be restricted to the husband or wife and/or dependent children within a family. Third, student visas should be drastically reduced in number. This will create more university places for Australians, whose parents have actually paid for the universities with their taxes in the first place. Those studying here who decide to apply to immigrate should be required to return to their country of origin after their qualification and to apply as part of the general migration program. Fourth, net immigration must be reduced to a level which can be supported and, therefore, must be set following detailed modelling and planning for the associated necessary accommodation, facilities and infrastructure. Fifth, but most important of all, diversity should be managed to remain compatible with social cohesion and national identity. We as a nation are entitled to insist that those who are allowed to come here predominantly reflect the historic European Christian composition of Australian society and embrace our language, culture and values as a people.

    In order for us to remain the nation that we are now, those who come here need to assimilate and integrate. Those who are most similar to the mainstream majority in terms of ethnicity, culture, language and values most readily do so. Historically, however, the one immigrant group here and in other Western nations that has consistently shown itself to be the least able to assimilate and integrate is Muslims. The first terrorist act on Australian soil was in 1915, when two Muslim immigrants opened fire on a picnic train of innocent women and children in Broken Hill—and Muslim immigrants have been a problem ever since. To paraphrase the words of Sir Winston Churchill:

    The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property—either as a child, a wife, or a concubine—must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power …

    … … …

    The influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those that follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

    I believe that the reasons for ending all further Muslim immigration are both compelling and self-evident. The record of Muslims who have already come to this country in rates of crime, welfare dependency and terrorism is the worst of any migrants and vastly exceeds any other immigrant groups. A majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and live on welfare. Muslims in New South Wales and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes. We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne. We have ISIS-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to fight for ISIS and, while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims. So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?

    Finally, it should go without saying that, as a nation, we are entitled to require that those who come here not only have useful work skills and qualifications but also the commitment to work and pay taxes. In truth, it appears that many of those who claim to be asylum seekers are actually just welfare seekers who only come to Australia to live on welfare in public housing at the expense of working Australians. In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hard-working people this country needed. We should go back to that and ban all immigrants receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive.

    The final solution to the immigration problem is, of course, a popular vote. We don’t need a plebiscite to cut immigration numbers; we just need a government that is willing to institute a sustainable population policy, end Australian-job-stealing 457 visas and make student visas conditional on foreign students returning to the country they came from. What we do need a plebiscite for is to decide who comes here. Whitlam didn’t ask the Australian people whether they wanted wholesale non-European migration when he introduced it and neither has any subsequent government. Who we allow to come here will determine what sort of nation we will have in the future, so therefore this isn’t the right of any one government to decide. It’s too important for that. Instead, we need a plebiscite to allow the Australian people to decide whether they want wholesale non-English speaking immigrants from the Third World and, in particular, whether they want any Muslims or whether they want to return to the predominantly European immigration policy of the pre-Whitlam consensus. I for one will be very happy to abide by their decision.

  43. .

    The correct insult is an Eastern Suburbs dinner party.

    It actually came from Homer Paxton, of all people; a proud native speaker of Eastwoodish.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greens move to censure Anning for “racist speech”

    Bill Shorten has moved a motion in the House of Representatives to acknowledge the bipartisan opposition to the White Australia policy and support of a non-discriminatory immigration policy.

    The Greens, meanwhile, are attempting to censure crossbencher Fraser Anning for his anti-immigration speech in the Senate last night.

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale moved the censure motion in the Senate this morning.

    “I move that the Senate censure Senator Anning for: the racist hate speech in his first speech, in particular; references to the need for a “final solution”, a phrase commonly associated with the extermination of European Jewry by the Nazis; False, misleading and hurtful statements relating to Muslim Australians and other immigrant groups. Bringing the Senate into disrepute,” the motion said.

    Being censured by the Greens must be like being flogged with a wet lettuce leaf, surely?

  45. Confused Old Misfit

    Standing up for what you believe at dinner parties infested by lefties, for example. Few can manage it.

    Did it for many years. Climate change mainly, like Cactus. Don’t have the problem any more. Don’t get invited to dinner parties! Guess people don’t like being told they’re [email protected]#$ing stupid.

  46. .

    I’m bewildered that someone would “defriend” you over a difference of opinion.

    Then again, if stupid people shun you, have you really suffered a loss?

  47. DrBeauGan

    Guess people don’t like being told they’re [email protected]#$ing stupid.

    If enough of us point it out to them, it’s just possible they’ll realise they are stupid and shut up.

    Although it doesn’t work with m0nty.

  48. Elle

    I’m bewildered that someone would “defriend” you over a difference of opinion.

    Showing support for Trump has lost me some friends on FB and frowned looks from my family.

  49. Confused Old Misfit

    Speaking of climate and change (as one does) here is the intro to a fascinating piece from the inestimable Judith Curry’s site.

    The next glaciation
    Posted on August 14, 2018 by curryja | 28 comments
    by Javier

    Summary: The IPCC expresses virtual certainty that a glaciation is not possible for the next 50 Kyr if CO2levels remain above 300 ppm. It is the long interglacial hypothesis. Analysis of interglacials of the past 800 Kyr shows they depend on obliquity-linked summer energy, ice-volume, and eccentricity, and they end at glacial inception after ~ 6000 years of Neoglaciation-type temperature decline. The lag between orbital forcing and ice volume change indicates the orbital threshold for glacial inception is crossed thousands of years before glacial inception, and the Holocene went through that threshold long ago. In the absence of sufficient anthropogenic forcing glacial inception should take place in 1500-2500 years. The long interglacial hypothesis rests on the wrong astronomical parameter, high-equilibrium climate sensitivity to CO2, and uncertain model predictions of very long-tailed CO2decay. It is not possible to determine at present if a glacial inception will take place over the next millennia. The precautionary principle indicates we should prepare for that eventuality as it would constitute the worst catastrophe humankind has ever faced.

    And I see Rafe has just posted something from Ian Plimer that is sure to be interesting as well.

  50. Cactus

    I think people don’t like confrontation. I enjoy a good argument or debate. I don’t think many do. A number of times I have changed my opinion as a result. But in truth shamefully on many of these occasions my opinion wasn’t actually mine but a conventional wisdom / media regurgitation thing. After I got red-pilled on climate change I started to scratch a few other conventional wisdom thingy’s. Whaling was a surprising one for me. I ended up not pro-whaling – but neutral. I reckon that is even more controversial than climate change at dinner parties.

    Quite a number of people get really surprised when they think the conversation will be 1) put forward an idea 2) everyone nods their heads and supports part 1). Topic discussed. Another example was getting rid of the $100 bill proposal. The proponent was surprised that anyone could object to that idea.

  51. Baldrick

    Here you go Dover:

    “We have black African Muslim gangs terrorising Melbourne, we have Isis-sympathising Muslims trying to go overseas to try and fight for Isis and while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims.
    So why would anyone want to bring more of them here?
    In the days of Menzies, immigrants arriving here were not allowed to apply for welfare and that attracted exactly the right sort of hardworking people this country needed.
    We should go back to that and ban all immigrants from receiving welfare for the first five years after they arrive.
    The final solution to the immigration problem, of course, is a popular vote.”

  52. mh

    Just visited Infowars.com, message comes up ‘Infowars is under attack please visit our other channels now’.

  53. Senile Old Guy

    Third, student visas should be drastically reduced in number. This will create more university places for Australians, whose parents have actually paid for the universities with their taxes in the first place.

    He is wrong on this, I think. Overseas students pay more that Australian students, so OS actually (in a way) subsidise Australian students.

    And the “parents have paid for universities in taxes” argument is very dodgy. Those of us who pay taxes, are always taxed for things we might never use. My taxes “pay” for roads in Western Australia I will never use. I should get a refund on those taxes? Stupid argument.

  54. Jupes;

    A few months ago, a global media tempest erupted after Polish Catholics held a mass public prayer event across the country. The BBC deemed it “controversial”, due to “concerns it could be seen as endorsing the state’s refusal to let in Muslim migrants”.

    The same controversy, however, did not erupt in Britain when 140,000 Muslims prayed in Birmingham’s Small Heath Park, in an event organized by the Green Lane Mosque to mark the end of Ramadan.

    Tsk tsk, and here’s me without a 5 gallon drum of Novichok and a chopper.

  55. Stimpson J. Cat

    Happy Navajo Code Talkers Day Everyone!!!

  56. DrBeauGan

    Cactus
    #2789301, posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:25 am
    I think people don’t like confrontation.

    Ideally, the ideas confront each other and the people with opposing ideas stay friends. I tend to assume that is what will happen, boy, have I been wrong. Too many people identify with their ideas, which makes changing their minds the same as suicide.

  57. Death Giraffe

    Dinner parties are shit.

  58. G

    Of course every politician who makes stupid, ignorant, insensitive and deeply offensive and hurtful comments about Jews and Israel should be tossed out of parliament in shame. That would get of all the Greens and half the ALP for a start

  59. mh

    C.L.
    #2789262, posted on August 15, 2018 at 9:40 am
    Funny how this nation’s newspapers never commission polls on whether Australians want more or fewer Muslim and African immigrants.

    I think it was Essential Research who surveyed Australians on Muslim immigration and found 49% wanted an end to Muslim immigration. The pollsters were so surprised by this that they did another poll and got exactly the same result.

  60. Anthony

    Has Mohammed’s name been released yet?

  61. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just visited Infowars.com, message comes up ‘Infowars is under attack please visit our other channels now’.

    Drudge reported this earlier. Here’s the link he gives.
    Typical lefty response to being successfully given the one digit salute: go illegal.

  62. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC, Kanye has a message for you.

    KANYE WEST
    @kanyewest
    operation try love take someone you don’t like and say something you like about them out loud
    1:35 AM · Aug 14, 2018

    😁

  63. Baldrick

    I think it was Essential Research who surveyed Australians on Muslim immigration

    Catallaxy FactCheck ➡ True
    Total support – 49%
    Total oppose – 40%
    Too Stupid to form an opinion – 11%

  64. Confused Old Misfit

    I have three sisters. I sent an email to them advising them of a change of a address. No response. I’ve only heard from one of them since Trump was elected.

    The planet is experiencing an unexplained major cooling and scientists are ignoring it.

  65. Spring is coming

    The Australia : The Genoa tragedy is the latest in a series of bridge collapses in Italy linked to shoddy construction, corrupt contracting and mafia infiltration of the building trade.

    Thank goodness we live in Austraya where CFMEU and Govmint alliances stop mafia infiltration in its tracks. Sarc.

  66. Thanks for the full text of Senator Anning’s speech.
    He’s a simplistic moron, as is plain to see after reading.

  67. Gilas

    Serious question: Is there anybody who actually reads either Test Pattern or Rae/Grigory?

    Rae has (accidentally?) made a couple of reasonable points in the last few days, accidentally read.
    But both are mostly scroll-finger exercises.

  68. Cactus: Thank you for the explanation.

    Of the things to do down here in inner city Sydney it is very popular to have people over for dinner, have some chardonnay and talk to each other about where you live & property prices.

    It seems I’m missing nothing by not having experienced a “Dinner Party”.

  69. mh

    We are all Alex Jones now.

    So, first topic: What the hell are they putting in the water that is turning the frogs gay?

    Further to this, I would like to know what is causing boys and men to wear top buns?

  70. Gilas

    …Montz, on the other hand, is an obbligato scroll-past.
    Never feed the troll.

  71. .

    What makes humble water filter merchants believe in a mythical invasion of Texas?

  72. Just visited Infowars.com, message comes up ‘Infowars is under attack please visit our other channels now’.

    JADE HELM WOLVERINES AROOOO!

  73. Farmer Gez

    Di Nutella perhaps does not realise that The Final Solution was said in German and not English.
    A subtle difference now perhaps but profound at the time.

  74. stackja

    Serena at the Pub
    #2789330, posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Thanks for the full text of Senator Anning’s speech.
    He’s a simplistic moron, as is plain to see after reading.

    What he said is all true.

  75. Top Ender

    I don’t know if I will ever be called upon & if I have it within me.

    If you buy me beers one day Cactus, I will tell you of the very stupid and irresponsible thing I once did when under fire.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    …Montz, on the other hand, is an obbligato scroll-past.
    Never feed the troll.

    Trolls taste like chicken.
    And unlike chicken M0nty grows back!

  77. Cactus

    Top Ender – let us know if ever in Sydney. There is a contingent of Cats having beers on the odd Friday. Darwin looks unlikely for me at this stage. But who knows.

  78. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2789345, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:07 am
    I don’t know if I will ever be called upon & if I have it within me.

    If you buy me beers one day Cactus, I will tell you of the very stupid and irresponsible thing I once did when under fire.

    A decoration is often awarded for very stupid and irresponsible thing.

  79. H B Bear

    World renown lesbian?

    I don’t think I have seen any of her videos.

  80. .

    Stimpy

    Read the next article about a 19-year-old getting over 2 mn USD for when a teacher had sex with him multiple times when he was 15.

    Sure, she committed a crime. Why does he deserve compensation, let alone such a high level of compensation?

  81. Dr Faustus

    Chelsea Clinton: Legalizing Abortion Created Trillions in Economic Growth
    Fugly on the outside.
    Fugly on the inside.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    I would like to know what is causing boys and men to wear top buns?

    Lefties have a thing for asexuality atm.

    ‘Asexual’ Is Hot New Sexual Identity in San Francisco Bay Area (14 Aug)

    Maybe they catch it from all the poo they have to not step in.

  83. Snoopy

    He’s a simplistic moron, as is plain to see after reading.

    17 votes -> PHON senator -> KAP senator

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Gilas

    #2789337, posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:53 am

    …Montz, on the other hand, is an obbligato scroll-past.
    Never feed the troll.

    Always good for a look at reliable wrongology.

  85. Top Ender

    “How could all of the media, our scientists and politicians be mistaken?”

    Useful ammunition for this:

    – the great population explosion we were all going to die from – Erlich in the 1970s

    – running out of oil

    – people have not landed on the moon

    – aliens have landed a la Roswell etc

    – the Hitler diaries hoax

    – the missing link “Piltdown Man” story

    – Hitler escaped etc etc + moon bases

    – The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – J__s are taking over the world

    – the South Sea Bubble hoax of the mid-1700s

    – the world is flat

    – everything revolves around the earth

    – a planetary lineup will kill us all.

    – the earth is only 6000 years or so old

    – the tulips will make you rich craze of the 1600s

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. Robert A. Heinlein

  86. Top Ender

    Will do Cactus. You can all have a good laugh at my expense.

  87. Snoopy

    “How could all of the media, our scientists and politicians be mistaken?”

    Material personal interest.

  88. .

    – the Hitler diaries hoax

    Hugh Trevor Roper was sucked in. He wasn’t a crumb bum.

    – Hitler escaped etc etc

    Maybe not Hitler but the FBI files have some very peculiar evidence about senior Nazis escaping to South America. I have never believed the Soviet photo. It does not look like Hitler. Apparently, he’s buried under some Russian airfield. They ought to DNA test it to remove all doubt.

    – the tulips will make you rich craze of the 1600s

    Blaming the commodity often misses the underlying macroeconomic imbalances brought upon by policy. Furthermore, the Tulip bubble was over a long period and not as volatile/severe a shock as people think.

  89. Serena at the Pub

    #2789330, posted on August 15, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Thanks for the full text of Senator Anning’s speech.
    He’s a simplistic moron, as is plain to see after reading.

    What he said is all true.

    On the contrary, no it is not.
    Most of it is demonstrably not true.

    Then again, you only got to look at his prior occupation to know he’s a fuckwit.

  90. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    operation try love take someone you don’t like and say something you like about them out loud

    MONTIE LIKE YOUR FINGERNAIL POLISH

  91. stackja

    Charles Mackay (author)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Charles Mackay (27 March 1814 – 24 December 1889) was a Scottish poet, journalist, author, anthologist, novelist, and songwriter, remembered mainly for his book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

  92. H B Bear

    17 votes -> PHON senator -> KAP senator

    Bwahaha. The political reverse equivalent of this. Next he will be carrying rolls of toilet paper in his briefcase.

    Australian democracy at its finest.

  93. Leigh Lowe

    Useful ammunition for this:

    – the great population explosion we were all going to die from – Erlich in the 1970s

    – running out of oil

    … fifteen separate predictions of “running out” or “peak oil” since 1970.

  94. John Constantine

    Lucky in yarragrad their mafia only build twenty billion dollar desalinisation plants that don’t work, not bridges that topple.

  95. John Constantine

    YTK, their year two thousand computer bug that was going to stop the world was climate hysterics by another name.

  96. stackja

    Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions — Volume 1 by Charles Mackay

    In reading the history of nations, we find that, like individuals, they have their whims and their peculiarities; their seasons of excitement and recklessness, when they care not what they do. We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first. We see one nation suddenly seized, from its highest to its lowest members, with a fierce desire of military glory; another as suddenly becoming crazed upon a religious scruple, and neither of them recovering its senses until it has shed rivers of blood and sowed a harvest of groans and tears, to be reaped by its posterity. At an early age in the annals of Europe its population lost their wits about the Sepulchre of Jesus, and crowded in frenzied multitudes to the Holy Land: another age went mad for fear of the Devil, and offered up hundreds of thousands of victims to the delusion of witchcraft. At another time, the many became crazed on the subject of the Philosopher’s Stone, and committed follies till then unheard of in the pursuit. It was once thought a venial offence in very many countries of Europe to destroy an enemy by slow poison. Persons who would have revolted at the idea of stabbing a man to the heart, drugged his pottage without scruple. Ladies of gentle birth and manners caught the contagion of murder, until poisoning, under their auspices, became quite fashionable. Some delusions, though notorious to all the world, have subsisted for ages, flourishing as widely among civilized and polished nations as among the early barbarians with whom they originated,–that of duelling, for instance, and the belief in omens and divination of the future, which seem to defy the progress of knowledge to eradicate entirely from the popular mind. Money, again, has often been a cause of the delusion of multitudes. Sober nations have all at once become desperate gamblers, and risked almost their existence upon the turn of a piece of paper. To trace the history of the most prominent of these delusions is the object of the present pages. Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    In the present state of civilization, society has often shown itself very prone to run a career of folly from the last-mentioned cases. This infatuation has seized upon whole nations in a most extraordinary manner. France, with her Mississippi madness, set the first great example, and was very soon imitated by England with her South Sea Bubble. At an earlier period, Holland made herself still more ridiculous in the eyes of the world, by the frenzy which came over her people for the love of Tulips. Melancholy as all these delusions were in their ultimate results, their history is most amusing. A more ludicrous and yet painful spectacle, than that which Holland presented in the years 1635 and 1636, or France in 1719 and 1720, can hardly be imagined. Taking them in the order of their importance, we shall commence our history with John Law and the famous Mississippi scheme of the years above mentioned.

  97. stackja

    John Constantine
    #2789376, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:36 am
    YTK, their year two thousand computer bug that was going to stop the world was climate hysterics by another name.

    Some legacy only had two digits. Of course, MSM hyped the situation.

  98. I see Manafort’s lawyers didn’t even bother mounting a defence of their client, who is facing 305 years in gaol. Talk about low energy!

  99. stackja

    Fraser Anning told the truth. People can’t handle the truth?

  100. Top Ender

    I dunno John C….Y2K was about what would happen if we didn’t fix the logic of computers thinking 00 was less than 99.

    But we did go and fix it before it happened, so it didn’t happen.

    I remember well though, people thinking that despite this fairly easy upgrade, computers would still crash and we’d all be rooned etc etc.

    My dad, who I’d taught Internet banking to a few years before, insisted on logging on to Westpac at 1205am on 1 January 2000, to see if all his loot was still there.

  101. DrBeauGan

    Sober nations have all at once become desperate gamblers, and risked almost their existence upon the turn of a piece of paper.

    Or as in our case, the good opinion of Al Gore. Of all people.

  102. Confused Old Misfit

    stackja
    #2789380, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:42 am

    Apparently there are many “truths” out there from which to pick!

  103. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #2789376, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:36 am

    YTK, their year two thousand computer bug that was going to stop the world was climate hysterics by another name.

    FMD.
    Y2K.
    I spent most of 1999 tied up in that shit and most of 2000 trying to convince my betters that the promised “business cost savings” arising from the abolition of indirect taxes for the GST were illusory.
    One of the few funny lines from David Letterman around that time was …
    Q : “How did Christopher Columbus’ crew pass the time on the voyage to the New World in 1492?”
    A : “Getting the ship’s equipment ready for the Y1.5K bug.”

  104. stackja

    Emergency Warning
    https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me
    Emergency Warning – West Cambewarra Rd, North Nowra (Shoalhaven LGA)

    Posted:15/08/2018 11:38

    A bush fire is burning in vicinity of West Cambewarra Rd, North Nowra. The fire is currently out of control.

    Current Situation

    The fire is burning between West Cambrewarra Rd and the Princes Highway, North Nowra.

    The fire is moving in an easterly direction by strong winds toward the Princes Highway and Bomaderry.

    Firefighters are on scene protecting properties in the area.

    Bomaderry will experience heavy smoke and embers blown well ahead of the fire front. These embers may create spot fires and threatening homes.

    The Princes Highway is now closed in both directions due to heavy smoke in the area.

    Emergency alert telephone messages have been sent to residents in the area.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – Why hasn’t Gen. Flynn been sentenced yet? After all he can’t receive a sentence worse than van der Zwaan, whose crime was worse than Flynn’s. Van der Zwaan got 30 days. What a big fish!

  106. .

    A lot of this is from journos looking for easy stories, they are some of the dumbest uni grads around.

    Sports journos are even worse.

    I remember well though, people thinking that despite this fairly easy upgrade, computers would still crash and we’d all be rooned etc etc.

    Actually speaking of journos, I believe I misjudged poor old John Cadogan. I like the boy. I’ve watched a lot of his articles since then.

    I judged him off one article. Mea culpa, mea culpa maxima.

    If you’re thinking about buying a Holden, don’t. The brand’s gunna fail in 2018.

    Haha! That’s just fresh meat to a salty old Blue Eyes fan such as myself. Love your work now, Mr Cardigan.

  107. stackja

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2789383, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:43 am
    stackja
    #2789380, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:42 am

    Apparently there are many “truths” out there from which to pick!

    And I have a BS meter.

  108. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tony Burke charged taxpayers $7600 to charter a plane so he could view Tasmania’s Tarkine wilderness with GetUp!

    Burqa Burke gadding about in a fixed wing helicopter. GetUp is probably “family.”

  109. hzhousewife

    “How could all of the media, our scientists and politicians be mistaken?”

    My answer to a person saying this would be that they have simply done about exactly the same amount of “research” as you have – ie precisely nil in a lot of cases. Sheeplemmings.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2789381, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:42 am

    I dunno John C….Y2K was about what would happen if we didn’t fix the logic of computers thinking 00 was less than 99.

    Yes, it was a bit of a coding problem, but the mitigation was a massively overblown consultant nirvana.
    Most of the “fixes” were for non-existent problems in the first place, but Boards and CEOs were conned into a frighteningly expensive precautionary review.

  111. Top Ender

    Labor’s Tony Burke caught up a Tarkine creek with a paddle

    RACHEL BAXENDALE
    12:00AM AUGUST 15, 2018

    Labor frontbencher Tony Burke charged taxpayers $7600 to charter a plane so he could view Tasmania’s Tarkine wilderness with activist group GetUp! while environment minister in 2012.

    Taxpayers were billed for the plane to fly 62km from Burnie to Waratah in Tasmania’s northwest, to return to Burnie, and travel to Hobart two days later.

    Mr Burke’s three-day trip, which cost almost $10,000 in total, took place after GetUp! lobbied him for weeks on social media to block two mine pro­posals in the area.

    During the April 2012 visit, GetUp! filmed a campaign video featuring an interview with Mr Burke and footage of him kayaking with the group’s founder, Simon Sheikh.

    Mr Burke is also shown hiking with then Environment Tasmania director Phill Pullinger.

    A year later, he gave Dr Pullinger’s organisation $2.4 million in grants through a process that has been compared with Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg’s decision to give the Great Barrier Reef Foundation $444m without going to tender.

    A 2014 Australian National Audit Office investigation found Mr Burke had bypassed 29 organisations that applied for grants to give the money to Environment Tasmania, which had not been part of the competitive grant round.

    Mr Burke’s wife, Skye Laris, worked as GetUp! campaign manager between March 2011 and January 2012. She was Mr Burke’s chief of staff from 2009 to 2011. The relationship ­between the pair, who married in 2015, did not begin until the end of 2013 and Ms Laris was not ­involved in the April 2012 Tarkine trip.

    Mr Burke’s spokeswoman said the flight from Burnie to Waratah was a “site inspection flight” and it returned to Burnie, where the minister hired a car and drove the 50 minutes back to Waratah.

    Department of Finance records show Mr Burke claimed $465 to hire the car for three days and more than $500 for Comcars to and from airports in Canberra, Hobart and Sydney and to a media engagement in Hobart. He claimed $349 in travel ­allowance to spend a night in a cabin in Zeehan on his first night in the Tar­kine, $349 for a night in a tent the following night and $354 for a final night in Hobart.

    Asked whether it was reasonable to claim $349 for a night in a tent, Mr Burke’s spokeswoman said he had been invoiced by commercial business Tarkine Trails for the accommodation.

    Mr Burke’s spokeswoman ­defended his decision to appear in the GetUp! campaign video, saying: “Mr Burke was asked during the trip to answer questions on camera, and he obliged.”

    Mr Burke said he visited the Tarkine in the course of determining whether it should receive national heritage listing.

    “I took the decision to visit the area twice, once with mining/­industry stakeholders interested in showing me parts of the Tar­kine they wanted me to see, and again with environmental stakeholders showing me parts of the Tarkine they wanted me to visit,” he said.

    “This resulted in a far more ­informed decision than if I had only had access to a departmental briefing in the Canberra office.”

    Mr Burke led the charge against former Speaker Bronwyn Bishop over the $5200, 80km helicopter charter flight to a Liberals fundraiser that led to her resignation. Mr Burke’s spokeswoman ­rejected comparisons between Mr Burke’s charter flight and Ms Bishop’s helicopter trip.

    Oz link

  112. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Dover, it wasn’t his speech or a paragraph that upset some (me), it was the phrase he used. Overall it was a good speech.

    It was one of the stupidest speeches ever delivered in our Parliament.

    Thanks to Anning the much needed and wanted immigration reforms necessary for this country are probably now unattainable.

    It was the gift the Uniparty and the left have been waiting for, as can be clearly seen by Turnbull and the Libs response.

    AS I said last night it is my firm belief that Anning (and Hanson and Palmer) is a left wing plant whose sole job was/is to undermine reform.

  113. Mother Lode

    Some legacy only had two digits. Of course, MSM hyped the situation.

    However responsible the MSM was, their guilt was mitigated by the fact they probably did not understand what they were talking about.

    To be a member of the MSM is to be trapped in a vise, snatching desperate breaths, and always a moment’s relaxation from being crushed to oblivion – the irresistible forces of the need to pump out a stream of information and the fact that they know near goddamned fucking nothing.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    I see Manafort’s lawyers didn’t even bother mounting a defence of their client, who is facing 305 years in gaol. Talk about low energy!

    Yes, because Manafort is worse than Charlie Manson.
    Get back to me when the conveyancing clerks employed by Mueller figure out how to lay charges properly.

  115. Leigh Lowe

    It was one of the stupidest speeches ever delivered in our Parliament.

    Thanks to Anning the much needed and wanted immigration reforms necessary for this country are probably now unattainable.

    Reminds me of when they had Gillard in the corner over AWU and that 40 watt dim bulb Larry Pickering produced a series of strap-on cartoons.
    Thanks for the distraction Larry.

  116. .

    PHON had some very socialist policies when they first formed. 50% of GDP as public spending, free hospital like Gough would not believe and a financial transactions tax.

    They do represent old Australia, particularly the old ALP.

  117. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2789392, posted on August 15, 2018 at 11:50 am
    Labor’s Tony Burke caught up a Tarkine creek with a paddle

    2012! Of course, now not really generally newsworthy.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fraser Anning told the truth. People can’t handle the truth?

    Nein certainly can’t. They claimed just now he was advocating a return to the White Australia Policy.
    That merger with Fakefax is really noticeable.
    Anning should sue their arse off for lying about him.

  119. Confused Old Misfit

    Stackja

    If yours wears out you can borrow mine! 😉
    https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-meter-amplifier-gif-7402019

  120. Top Ender

    Sudanese problems anyone?

    London Westminster parliament crash being treated as ‘terrorist incident’

    By FIONA HAMILTON
    46 MINUTES AGO AUGUST 15, 2018110 COMMENTS

    A suspected terrorist spent 90 minutes trawling the streets of Westminster before crashing into cyclists and pedestrians outside parliament last night.

    The 29-year-old man, a British citizen of Sudanese origin, brought the spectre of terrorism back to London when he allegedly drove his Ford Fiesta into commuters and towards police officers before hitting a security barrier.

    The suspect had travelled to London late on Monday from Birmingham, where he had recently lived in a rented flat above a barber’s and internet cafe in Sparkbrook, an area that has been previously linked with terrorist plots. His name is understood to be Salih Khater.

    The suspect is said to be known to police but not MI5 or the counter-terrorism network.

    The man spent several hours in the Tottenham Court Road area before driving around Westminster for more than an hour and half before the 7.37am attack, police said. Detectives will investigate whether he was searching for other targets.

    A female cyclist was seriously injured when the car hit a group of riders at traffic lights outside parliament, before swerving towards police at a security barrier. They jumped out of the way. Armed officers surrounded the car, which was bought on June 20.

    The suspect’s Sparkbrook rental property is a 10-minute drive from the former home of the Islamist terrorist Khalid Masood, who struck at Westminster last March.

    Yesterday’s suspect drove past the spot where Masood, 52, abandoned his hired 4×4 vehicle after killing four people on Westminster Bridge before going on to stab PC Keith Palmer to death.

    Theresa May described the latest incident as shocking as Downing Street disclosed that 676 live terrorism investigations were taking place at the end of June.

    Police raided the suspect’s former flat in Sparkbrook last night, as well as a second address in Birmingham and a Nottingham council flat rented by several Sudanese men. Owners of the Sudanese cafe said they did not have permission to speak but regular customers and neighbours recognised images of the suspect.

    The landlord of the shared flat said he moved out four months ago, adding: “He was a nice man. I never had any problems. He paid his rent on time.”

    One customer said he was seen in the cafe on Monday. He said: “He doesn’t speak to people. I think he had some problem; he lost his father and at the same time lost his brother in two months but I don’t know how recently.”

    The case is being treated as terrorism but as the suspect is not co-operating with police his motives are not known.

    Neil Basu, the national head of counterterrorism, when asked if the driver targeted police officers, said: “It certainly appears to be a deliberate act but what the motivation is we can’t say.” He dismissed rumours that police were following the driver. An unmarked police vehicle was near by on an unrelated matter, the Met said.

    Mrs May, who is on a Swiss holiday, said: “For the second time in as many years the home of our democracy has witnessed terrible scenes. My thoughts are with the innocent members of the public who were hurt.”

    A Cobra meeting took place yesterday, but only officials were present. Sajid Javid, the home secretary, returned from holiday to be briefed.

    The public has been warned there will be extra armed and unarmed police patrolling the streets of London in the coming days.

    Witnesses described the silver car being driven at high speed and believed the crash was intentional.

    Witness Jason Williams told the BBC: “Basically I’ve seen a man driving a vehicle, and he’s gone into one of the bollards. There was a loud bang.

    “Straight away I thought ‘Oh no, this is another terrorist attack’. So I’ve just started to run and the police were saying ‘get out, get out of the area’.

    “It (the car) was behind me. I didn’t see anyone else involved. I just saw this one vehicle, so it seems to be deliberate.

    “I was very surprised (the police didn’t go in straight away). They seemed to be standing back. They were obviously a bit wary, like what’s going to happen next?

    “I don’t know if it was a tip-off, a warning, that this was a bomb. There seems to be maybe about 200 police here now, and it’s all happened very quickly in the space of half an hour.’’

    Another witness Ewalina Ochab told the Press Association: “I think it looked intentional — the car drove at speed and towards the barriers.”

    She said: “I was walking on the other side [of the road]. I heard some noise and someone screamed. I turned around and I saw a silver car driving very fast close to the railings, maybe even on the pavement.”

    US President Donald Trump called the incident “another terrorist attack in London.” Mr Trump tweeted: “These animals are crazy and must be dealt with through toughness and strength!”

    “All Londoners, like me, utterly condemn all acts of terrorism on our city,” London’s Mayor Sadiq Khan said on Twitter.

    Britain is on its second-highest threat level of “severe”, meaning an attack is considered highly likely and the authorities say a dozen Islamist plots had been foiled.

    The Times…Oz link – lots of comments comparing the situation to Melbourne

  121. M0nty – Why hasn’t Gen. Flynn been sentenced yet? After all he can’t receive a sentence worse than van der Zwaan, whose crime was worse than Flynn’s. Van der Zwaan got 30 days. What a big fish!

    Flynn is still assisting Mueller with his inquiries.

  122. .

    That merger with Fakefax is really noticeable.

    I can’t wait until Ray Hadley and Liz Farrelly get a show defending the design features of Blues Point Tower.

  123. Rae

    Labor’s Tony Burke caught up a Tarkine creek with a paddle

    Savvas hubby desperately leaking from PM & C to try to distract from Turnwaffles half a billion gift to Lucys friends.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    Flynn is still assisting Mueller with his inquiries.

    Good joke M0nty. Got a link?

  125. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Nein certainly can’t. They claimed just now he was advocating a return to the White Australia Policy.

    Anning is an imbecile who allowed them to do this because he is either a) incapable of writing in clear English or b) a left wing plant who deliberately used provocative phrasing so as to derail the immigration debate.

    One thing we know for sure, he is a complete xunt who has jeopardised the very future of this country.

  126. Dr Faustus

    Most of the “fixes” were for non-existent problems in the first place, but Boards and CEOs were conned into a frighteningly expensive precautionary review.

    Government was fully on board with the Terrible National Threat. The Boards and CEO’s of listed companies were obliged by ASC/ASIC and ASX to report on their Y2K preparations to keep the market informed and stop panic in the streets.

    When the fateful day passed without incident, government sponsorship of the whole orgy of coding panic vanished into the forgettery.

  127. .

    This is brutal.

    2018 Holden Don’t Buy Warning | Auto Expert John Cadogan Australia

    I’m guessing Teh Cardigan is doing bit of a victory dance.

    He’s right though, Holden were in love with themselves over the 1970s Monaro and Craig Lowndes winning in an HRT VR back in 1996.

  128. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789408, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    Hyperbowl.

  129. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Last time a firebrand Senator from Queensland stood up and made a claim about Asians swamping us, the response was an increase in our immigration rate from 80,000 to 350,000 per year. A distraction squirrel was then unleashed in the form of “stopping the boats”. Much easier to fly them in anyway.

    Expect more of the same here.

  130. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789408, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    Hyperbowl.

    Suck my dick and learn to write in sentences you illiterate autist.

  131. jupes

    They claimed just now he was advocating a return to the White Australia Policy.

    As if that’s a bad thing.

    It was a far superior policy to the failed non-discriminatory policy that is ruining this country at the minute.

  132. C.L.

    It was one of the stupidest speeches ever delivered in our Parliament.

    How so?

  133. .

    They claimed just now he was advocating a return to the White Australia Policy.

    *As if that’s a bad thing.*

    Yes, it is.

  134. Boambee John

    The Democrats are being oppositionally defiant. If Trump was for open borders, they’d be ethnic nationalists.

    If illegal immigrants overwhelmingly voted Republican, the Demorats would be ethnic nationalists.

    Fixed that for you Dot.

    Same here with the Liars and Slime.

  135. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789413, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789408, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    Hyperbowl.

    Suck my dick and learn to write in sentences you illiterate autist.

    Why?

  136. jupes

    Yes, it is.

    Well it is if you are in the security industry or a bollard manufacturer.

    For the rest of us, not so much.

  137. Roger

    “All Londoners, like me, utterly condemn all acts of terrorism on our city,” London’s Mayor Sadiq Khan said on Twitter.

    It’s notable that Khan rarely, if ever, uses the descriptor ‘Muslim’ before the words terrorism or extremism.

  138. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    How so?

    Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

  139. C.L.

    ‘operation try love’ – take someone you don’t like and say something you like about them out loud

    I was going to do a Turnbull gag here but I, literally, cannot think of anything I like about him.

  140. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    They claimed just now he was advocating a return to the White Australia Policy.

    *As if that’s a bad thing.*

    Australia must remain a European country and predominantly white. If you ask any immigrants to this country they will say the same thing, but you have to phrase it properly.

  141. .

    The only way to deal with Islamic terrorism and ethnic (African) gangs is with the WAP?

    What an utterly absurd false dichotomy.

  142. H B Bear

    Sudanese eh? That is multi-kulti at work right there. A change from the usual goat molesters.

  143. Lysander

    ‘operation try love’ – take someone you don’t like and say something you like about them out loud

    Monty, I’d like to say…

    nah, forget it.

  144. Diogenes

    My dad, who I’d taught Internet banking to a few years before, insisted on logging on to Westpac at 1205am on 1 January 2000, to see if all his loot was still there.

    Despite many of us telling our bosses & client (a big telecommunications company) we were fine, and being audited up the wazoo for all our systems, and nothing being found I STILL found myself sitting in ‘war room’ with dedicated phonelines to other war rooms in the business between 6pm & 6am (31/1/-1/1) running pre and post y2k tests, none of which failed. I spent nowhere near my 10million budget (IIRC I spent about 20k , and 500k went to auditors) for which I was slapped around the head (figuratively) – “but we won’t be able to demonstrate to our insurers & lawyers that we did eeeevrything possible if anything goes wrong”

    The odd programming fault that had been found previously was fixed quickly ( remember in 1997 CC readers stopped accepting ccs for cards with a 00 expiry date. Fix rolled out within a day. There was the related 9/9/99 problem for old style mainframe systems (where that date represented an end of file) , also found & fixed in a day or so.
    Coming to scare near you – the Y2038 bug at 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038 any 32 bit dates used by unix & unix like OSs will roll over to 0. planes will fall out of the sky, ships will sink, cars catch fire …

  145. Dr Faustus

    Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

    Correct.
    Anning has guaranteed that the Shorten/DiNatale Government will provide marketing and financial assistance for Indonesian people smugglers.

    Australian public governance makes Sierra Leone look top notch.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Suck my dick and learn to write in sentences you illiterate autist.

    Well, like, duh!

  147. C.L.

    Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

    See, I think that’s being a cuck. The media and leftists have been calling advocates of such reform “Nazis” for several years. Hello.

    Cucks are always pre-emptively catastrophising about what the media will do and say. I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.” Which sounds pretty Adolf to me. Proposing six solutions to the problem and declaring the sixth, the final solution, should be a plebiscite is totally unobjectionable.

  148. jupes

    The only way to deal with Islamic terrorism and ethnic (African) gangs is with the WAP?

    I didn’t say that you twit.

    I said that the WAP is superior to the idiotic non-discriminatory policy we are currently running with.

    I am right and you know it.

  149. jupes

    I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.”

    The sound you hear is Robert Menzies spinning in his grave.

  150. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    See, I think that’s being a cuck. The media and leftists have been calling advocates of such reform “Nazis” for several years. Hello.

    Cucks are always pre-emptively catastrophising about what the media will do and say. I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.” Which sounds pretty Adolf to me. Proposing six solutions to the problem and declaring the sixth, the final solution, should be a plebiscite is totally unobjectionable.

    Even Trump has been unable to reform immigration in any substantial way and he won an election on it.

    It is even harder in this befouled shithole of a country.

  151. .

    Cucks are always pre-emptively catastrophising about what the media will do and say. I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.” Which sounds pretty Adolf to me. Proposing six solutions to the problem and declaring the sixth, the final solution, should be a plebiscite is totally unobjectionable.

    …and no need at all to go back to the bloody awful White Australia Policy, which never stopped Fenian terrorists (even up until the 1970s, who plotted to kill the Queen, etc in Australia) and would not stop Albanian, Kosovar, Bosnian and so on Muslims coming here either.

  152. Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

    This is ridiculous. He also used the term ‘immigration problem’ which overtones to ‘J#&ish problem’. We are demanding utter perfection from anyone that dares put their head above the parapet and then complaining endlessly about the fire inevitably drawn to our position. Whatever he said would have drawn fire. Whatever. Simply defending the idea of borders draws accusations of racism and xenophobia nowadays.

  153. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Besides, if you can’t write an immigration reform speech without mentioning White Australia Policy and “final solution” you are either a leftist plant or thick as a brick.

  154. Roger

    I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.”

    Maladroit just told c. half the population they are deplorable, then.

  155. Baldrick

    Oh look, TheirABC thinks they know what’s wrong with the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party.. Just a matter of rebranding, not changing leaders …

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Opinion: The fractured Liberals need a new brand — their ‘broad church’ is no longer working

  156. jupes

    …and no need at all to go back to the bloody awful White Australia Policy, which never stopped Fenian terrorists (even up until the 1970s, who plotted to kill the Queen, etc in Australia) and would not stop Albanian, Kosovar, Bosnian and so on Muslims coming here either.

    LOL

    You are such an earnest dickhead Dotty.

  157. C.L.

    Photographs from today’s phony emotional anti-Anning beer hall putsch:

    Josh hugs a Muslim – really:

    Labor’s Ed Husic and Liberal Josh Frydenberg.

    Peter Dutton claims “final solution” is especially offensive to Muslims:

    Particularly in my mind, with a focus on their impact and the comments which would be deeply offensive to the Jewish community, and to many people within the Islamic community as well.

    It is inconceivable that reference to ‘the final solution’ could be derived with any other meaning, any other intention, and it should be condemned.

    Vomit bucket needed:

    Shalailah Medhora✔@shalailah
    Anne Aly is holding back tears in the House right now, as she speaks on her experience of racism.

    Turnbull blames white Australians for terrorism:

    “Let’s be quite clear, those who seek to demonise all Muslims on the basis of the crimes of a tiny minority are helping the terrorists.”

  158. C.L.

    Photographs from today’s phony emotional anti-Anning beer hall putsch:

    Josh hugs a Muslim – really:

    Labor’s Ed Husic and Liberal Josh Frydenberg.

    Peter Dutton claims “final solution” is especially offensive to Muslims:

    Particularly in my mind, with a focus on their impact and the comments which would be deeply offensive to the J-w1sh community, and to many people within the Islamic community as well.

    It is inconceivable that reference to ‘the final solution’ could be derived with any other meaning, any other intention, and it should be condemned.

    Vomit bucket needed:

    Shalailah Medhora✔@shalailah
    Anne Aly is holding back tears in the House right now, as she speaks on her experience of racism.

    Turnbull blames white Australians for terrorism:

    “Let’s be quite clear, those who seek to demonise all Muslims on the basis of the crimes of a tiny minority are helping the terrorists.”

  159. cohenite

    Anning’s speech is great. media shitting lying pants predictable; turdball sucking vestige of brain through pursed lips, check; wtf is Pauline doing though.

  160. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    We are demanding utter perfection from anyone that dares put their head above the parapet and then complaining endlessly about the fire inevitably drawn to our position.

    To defeat the immigration ponzi we will need utter perfection.

    Look at what has happened with baseload energy. A two decade war has just been lost.

  161. Dr Faustus

    Cucks are always pre-emptively catastrophising about what the media will do and say. I just heard Turnbull decare that opposition of Muslim and African immigration has “no place in Parliament.”

    The problem is that here are 220-odd cucks in Canberra, all pre-emptively catastrophising about what the media will do and say. You just heard one of them, escalating Anning’s dim comment into a general ban on discussion of Muslim and African immigration.

  162. Elle

    AS I said last night it is my firm belief that Anning (and Hanson and Palmer) is a left wing plant whose sole job was/is to undermine reform.

    Conspiracy theories, Mr Tiger?

    I don’t think they’re that intelligent.

  163. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    wtf is Pauline doing though.

    What she has always done: playing the stooge to defeat necessary reform. This time she has Anning’s help.

    People on this site rave about a “deep state” but can’t see what is right in front of them.

  164. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Conspiracy theories, Mr Tiger?

    I don’t think they’re that intelligent.

    Anning and Hanson have about the same intelligence as your average Sudanese gang member. It’s the people using them who are smart.

  165. Pedro the Ignorant

    Senator Anning has managed to throw a remarkably hissy cat among the preening pigeons.

    Much squawking and flapping of wings results, heaps of of closet SJW’s outing themselves.

    Good times.

  166. C.L.

    Anning should now escalate.
    He could start with Turnbull endorsing Nazism in front of the Australian Christian Lobby in 2008.

    Turnbull defends abortion

    Federal opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull has told a powerful Christian lobby group they are wrong on abortion, as he defended a woman’s right to choose.

    Mr Turnbull was the star speaker at the Australian Christian Lobby’s (ACL) national conference in Canberra.

    He was applauded when he talked about his Catholic faith and quoted extensively from the Bible, but there were no cheers when audience members grilled him on abortion.

    Mr Turnbull said women had the right to end an unwanted pregnancy.

    “It is their choice,” he said.

    The ACL is one of Australia’s most vocal anti-abortion Christian groups.

    “There are groups, and I know some of them are represented here, who would argue that the law should be changed to have a complete ban on abortions,” Mr Turnbull said.

    “Not many people believe that would be productive, and indeed (it) might be quite counter-productive.”

    Mr Turnbull was also at odds with his audience on same-sex relationships.

    He rejected gay marriage, but said there should be no discrimination against same-sex couples in general.

    “If you think about it, if you discriminate … against a gay couple, between two men living together, do you really think that they’re going to say `oh well, that’s no good, we’ll go off and get married to a woman’?” he asked the audience.

    Mr Turnbull opened up about his Catholic faith and his opinion of Jesus’ message.

    “Jesus is full of very sensible advice on a whole range of matters, including some business matters,” he said.

    Love was at the centre of his personal religious beliefs, Mr Turnbull declared.

    “That’s what Jesus left us … I have been so lucky in my life to have had so much love.”

    Mr Turnbull said he was committed to promoting marriage and families. He thought more people should get married.

    “We (the Liberal Party) have a passionate commitment for the family, for the promotion of the family.

    “And that is something that we will pursue … with the passion of the hunter pursuing his quarry across the hills.”

    Mr Turnbull urged the audience to pray for US president-elect Barack Obama, saying the world needed him to do a good job.

  167. C.L.

    Gough Whitlam a Nazi!
    Via Google:

    The Australian Government called on the Government of
    South Africa to recognise its international obligations, to
    relinquish its illegal jurisdiction over Namibia and to facilitate
    the transition to majority rule and independence.
    The longer the problem of Namibia remained unsolved,
    said Mr Whitlam, the less was the chance that the final solution
    would be achieved peacefully.

    PM Transcripts.

  168. Roger

    It is inconceivable that reference to ‘the final solution’ could be derived with any other meaning, any other intention, and it should be condemned.

    I see ex Qld copper Dutton still knows how to verbal someone.

  169. Viva

    Bob Matter backing Anning on Sky

  170. Baldrick

    Only 5 Senators vote for Australia to drop the Paris Climate Con …

    Aust Conservatives @AuConservatives
    The senate is dividing on Cory Bernardi motion to get out of the Paris Climate Pact. Good on @SenatorGeorgiou @DavidLeyonhjelm @fraser_anning and Senator Barry O’Sullivan, the only 4 senators standing up for the Australian people

    Toilet!

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why does he deserve compensation, let alone such a high level of compensation?

    Because anyone in a teaching position who betrays that must be punished, and severely.

    Having sex with your students or employees is Absolutely Haram.

    Wrong on every level.

  172. It is inconceivable that reference to ‘the final solution’ could be derived with any other meaning, any other intention, and it should be condemned.

    This is just perverse and mendacious dishonesty.

  173. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Jim Molan has turned out to be the biggest dud of this Senate.

    I did warn that would be the case.

    You can see how a lickspittle like him rose up the ranks.

  174. Lysander

    Strange that Tony Burke never once mentioned the Tarkine Forrest and his trip in Hansard?

    https://www.openaustralia.org.au/search/?s=Tarkine+wilderness

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s crazy isn’t it?
    We can’t say “J$ws”, we can’t say “final”, we can’t say “solution “, etc etc.

    Australia just isn’t allowed an Ethnostate kids.

    Get used to it.

  176. Confused Old Misfit

    Come the revolution when Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only) – is el supremo there will be legislation to compel speech to be phrased in a manner satisfactory to dear leader.

  177. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Anning didn’t write the speech, but we know it was deliberately planted within the speech so that his sound and righteous message could be ignored.

    It’s too easy for the globalist when they have dupes like Anning in their control.

  178. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789442, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    Fraser Anning said

    MSM invented the WAP ‘quote’.

  179. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789476, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    More hyperbowl.

  180. Andreas

    Anning didn’t write the speech, but we know it was deliberately planted within the speech so that his sound and righteous message could be ignored.

    Without that part his speech would have already sunk without trace.

  181. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Fraser Anning said

    MSM invented the WAP ‘quote’.

    I apologise to the Senator for misrepresenting him.

  182. Crossie

    The Daily Telegraph understands former prime minister Tony Abbott and WA MP Andrew Hastie are the only MPs to outright oppose the policy after more than an hour of discussions.

    Yesterday I asked if there were only 10 sane politicians in Canberra and now we know that there are only two. Tony has blown his chance by not getting rid of the whiteanting Turnbull so now the only chance Australia has rests with Andrew Hastie. Ironically enough Abbott’s seat is safe while Hastie could lose his.

    After today I am convinced Liberals Party will cease to exist after the next election, everybody who approves of their policies votes Labor or Green and would never vote Liberal.

  183. Roger

    Jim Molan has turned out to be the biggest dud of this Senate.

    No, that would have to be James Paterson; Molan has actually done some good on fuel security.

  184. Leigh Lowe

    Anning didn’t write the speech, but we know it was deliberately planted within the speech so that his sound and righteous message could be ignored.

    It’s too easy for the globalist when they have dupes like Anning in their control.

    A smart guy would have used the phrase “voter sovereignty” instead of saying that a referendum would be the “final solution”.
    He could have launched into an attack on the “unrepresentative swill” hijacking voters real intent (now there is a phrase from the past the MSM will have trouble bagging).

  185. Rae

    Strange that Tony Burke never once mentioned the Tarkine Forrest and his trip in Hansard?

    https://www.openaustralia.org.au/search/?s=Tarkine+wilderness

    Have you learned nothing from your ABC adventures? You are trying to be too clever. Leave off “wilderness”, just search “Tarkine”.

  186. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Without that part his speech would have already sunk without trace.

    Which is even more evidence that the phrase was deliberately planted in the speech and the co-ordinated attack was pre-orchestrated by those that control Anning.

    Tthe immigration ponzi has made some people in this country ridiculously wealthy and powerful. Never underestimate what they will do to keep it going.

    Hanson is now under the spell of a far left faggot Svengali. God only knows who has got to Anning.

  187. Lysander

    I think One Nation need some self-immigration control.

  188. Lysander

    Have you learned nothing from your ABC adventures? You are trying to be too clever. Leave off “wilderness”, just search “Tarkine”.

    **Oh**

  189. Stimpson J. Cat

    This should terrify you, Sane People.
    F$cking monstrous.
    You will reap what you sow.

    Number of Children & Adolescents Taking Psychiatric Drugs in the U.S.

    Drug Class: Age Group: Number of People:

    All Psychiatric 0-5 Years 622,723
    Drugs

    Breakdown:
    0-1 Years 125,361
    2-3 Years 202,319
    4-5 Years 306,079

    6-12 Years 3,259,955
    13-17 Years 3,419,633

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 7,213,599 kids on psychiatric drugs

    ADHD Drugs 0-5 Years 80,235

    Breakdown:
    0-1 Years 328
    2-3 Years 1,919
    4-5 Years 77,396

    6-12 Years 2,119,343
    13-17 Years 1,524,381

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 3,655,472 kids on ADHD Drugs

    Antidepressants 0-5 Years 38,534

    Breakdown:
    0-1 Years 6,687
    2-3 Years 10,957
    4-5 Years 21,299

    6-12 Years 574,090
    13-17 Years 1,503,185

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 2,100,315 kids on antidepressants

    Antipsychotics 0-5 Years 85,143

    Breakdown:
    0-1 Years 3,913
    2-3 Years 27,001
    4-5 Years 53,750

    6-12 Years 467,500
    13-17 Years 646,215

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 1,194,805 kids on antipsychotics

    Anti-anxiety 0-5 Years 389,558

    Breakdown:
    0-1 Years 102,960
    2-3 Years 148,894
    4-5 Years 143,692

    6-12 Years 484,612
    3-17 Years 577,259

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 1,445,509 kids on anti-anxiety drugs

  190. Hydra

    Why is it controversial to air views in Parliament that more than 50% of the population hold?

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Grand Total 0-17 Years 1,445,509 kids on anti-anxiety drugs

    That is worrying.
    So worrying that I need to take a Valium.

  192. H B Bear

    Ironically enough Abbott’s seat is safe while Hastie could lose his.

    There will be a few WA Lieborals looking around for safe seats when The Performing Stick Insect pulls the pin after the next election. Hastie and Porter could both have their hand out.

  193. Roger

    Why is it controversial to air views in Parliament that more than 50% of the population hold?

    Parliament is no place for deplorables who just need to shut up and continue paying for everything.

  194. Mother Lode

    It is inconceivable that reference to ‘the final solution’ could be derived with any other meaning, any other intention, and it should be condemned.

    He wasn’t referencing ‘The Final Solution’. He was using the words with their ordinary meanings.

    What happens if anyone says they have a struggle?

    If he really wants to fret about connections to the Nazis, the enormous powers of government and a process obsessed bureaucracy is a far greater resemblance. The banality of evil and all that.

  195. Boambee John

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2789422, posted on August 15, 2018 at 12:10 pm
    How so?

    Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

    If you seriously think either branch of the UNiParty will do anything to “reform” immigration short of a massive electoral repudiation of both branches of the party, you have not been paying attention.

  196. Mother Lode

    Why does he deserve compensation, let alone such a high level of compensation?

    We have educational programs devoted to sexualising students.

    But when a boy gets some the fabric of the society is rent asunder.

    Maybe the problem was that it was straight sex.

  197. Mother Lode

    MSM invented the WAP ‘quote’.

    Given the White Australia Policy’s provenance, is the MSM saying Anning is a lefty?

  198. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    There will be a few WA Lieborals looking around for safe seats when The Performing Stick Insect pulls the pin after the next election. Hastie and Porter could both have their hand out.

    The Libs are desperate to get rid of Hastie.

    He represent everything they don’t like.

  199. Mother Lode

    Why is it controversial to air views in Parliament that more than 50% of the population hold?

    Why do you think our political elite consider the opinions of voters have any bearing on what they choose to do?

  200. Leigh Lowe

    The Libs are desperate to get rid of Hastie.

    He represent everything they don’t like.

    Problematic.
    Tainted.
    Ex-military.

  201. Snoopy

    Has Paul Murray been attacked for hosting Fraser Anning yet?

  202. Zyconoclast

    Josh hugs a Muslim – really:

    Labor’s Ed Husic and Liberal Josh Frydenberg.

    Uniparty confirmed.

    Next they will be banging in the parliamentary toilets

  203. Ivan Denisovich

    Get used to it

    Also advice for the Dutch and Germans:

    Dutch professor Maurice Crul has said that with the ever increasing number of migrants and migrant background people living in the Netherlands, that the native Dutch should just get used to being a minority.
    A professor at the Free University in Amsterdam, Crul says that in the larger cities in the Netherlands white Dutch are already a minority and that such trends will follow in smaller cities and towns as well, Dutch newspaper Trouw reports.

    “In Amsterdam the time has come: there this group is a minority. Only one in three young people under the age of fifteen is of Dutch descent,” Professor Crul said…………………..

    The remarks echo those made by German politician Barbara John last week who wrote that Germans should not be worried about becoming minorities in their own cities……………..

    Other academics, like Professor Angelika Redder, have even advocated that Germans should learn Arabic rather than expect new migrants to simply learn German saying, “we can do something that shows us as being open to other languages. This may be enriching for both sides.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/14/professor-native-dutch-need-to-get-used-to-being-a-minority/

  204. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Next they will be banging in the parliamentary toilets

    As if they haven’t already.

  205. Boambee John

    Hydra
    #2789490, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Why is it controversial to air views in Parliament that more than 50% of the population hold?

    Because neither the MSM nkr the UNiParty hold those views.

    Remember, if the polls support the views of the so-called “progressives”, that is the will of the people.

    If the polls oppose the views of the so-called “progressives”, that is cheap populism..

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2789502, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    Has Paul Murray been attacked for hosting Fraser Anning yet?

    I am more concerned that he hosts Janine Perrett.

  207. Elle

    Next they will be banging in the parliamentary toilets

    Perhaps the same cubicle/s that Barnaby did his ‘billy galooting’ in.

  208. areff

    Cat contributor Peter O’Brien has a piece just post at Quadrant: “No, Tony, Real Lemmings Are Smarter“.

    It’s terrific — a better, pithier and more sulphurous analysis than anything you’ll find in the MSM.

  209. Bruce in WA

    When do people in your line of work retire?

    FMD, I worked w-a-y past the time I should have. Not happy, Jan.

  210. stackja

    John Brown (Australian politician) – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(Australian_politician)
    John Joseph Brown AO (born 19 December 1931) is a retired Australian politician. … due to revelations that he and his then wife Jan Murray had celebrated a victory one night by having sex on his desk in his office at Parliament House

    Where is the desk now?

  211. H B Bear

    The remarks echo those made by German politician Barbara John last week who wrote that Germans should not be worried about becoming minorities in their own cities……………..

    That’s ominous. Remember what happened the last time the Huns thought they were running out of room in the Fatherland.

  212. areff

    Large, white, bowl-like ceramics get some people quite excited, Elle. It takes all kinds.

  213. Leigh Lowe

    Large, white, bowl-like ceramics get some people quite excited, Elle. It takes all kinds.

    For others it is the stainless steel and the disinfectant lollies … or so I’m told.

  214. Elle

    Hope they’re clean bowls, areff.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Where is the desk now?

    Bananaby has it.

  216. stackja

    Elle
    #2789516, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    Are they hyper bowls?

  217. Elle

    Stainless steal? We could ask a certain radio broadcaster, who was sprung at a urinal in the UK, what the attraction is. Hmm.

  218. Makka

    Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

    I have a 1933 edition with the forward by Bernard Baruch, updated to take in The Crash and the aftermath in the GD. Great reading and a must for anyone interested in stocks, bubbles and human behaviors. Some things really don’t change.

  219. stackja

    Strongest wind gusts recorded overnight include 83 km/h at Strathalbyn and 82 km/h at Robe.

    And the windmills?

  220. Zyconoclast

    Next they will be banging in the parliamentary toilets

    As if they haven’t already.

    For WHS purposes Timmy can observe and give instructions when needed.
    He can wear the high viz vest and hard hat.

  221. stackja

    Watch and Act
    Watch and Act – Bells Line Of Road, Bilpin (Hawkesbury LGA)
    https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me
    Posted:15/08/2018 12:54

    A bush fire is burning near the Bells Line Of Road, Bilpin. The fire is currently out of control.

    Current Situation

    A bush fire is burning near the Bells Line of Road, Bilpin between Johnsons Rd and Glenara Rd.

    The fire is moving in an easterly direction fanned by strong winds.

    There are isolated properties in the area that are likely to come under threat over the coming hours.

    The fire is burning in Very High fire danger conditions. Under these conditions, fires can be difficult to control.

    Embers may be blown ahead of the fire, creating spot fires. These spot fires may threaten your home earlier than the predicted main fire front.

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John Joseph Brown AO (born 19 December 1931) is a retired Australian politician. … due to revelations that he and his then wife Jan Murray had celebrated a victory one night by having sex on his desk in his office at Parliament House

    Described koalas as “flea ridden, stinking, scratching, piddling little things.” Someone sent him a “koala survival pack” with a plastic raincoat, a tin of flea powder and a spray can of deodorant, but he didn’t see the joke.

  223. Makka

    Immigration reform of any kind can now be ignored as the domain of “nazis” thanks to Anning’s idiotic phraseology.

    Yep, he was more efficient than Brandis when he killed off the repeal of 18C . This was a big win for the pro-immigration clowns.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    Strongest wind gusts recorded overnight include 83 km/h at Strathalbyn and 82 km/h at Robe.

    And the windmills?

    My understanding is that 50 mph (80 kmh) is the top of the range before they shut down due to risk of damage.

  225. stackja

    Makka
    #2789520, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:39 pm

    Bears and bulls.

  226. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #2789526, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    Yes!

  227. Leigh Lowe

    John Joseph Brown AO (born 19 December 1931) is a retired Australian politician. …

    Minister for Tourism during the “shrimp on the barbie” era.
    A lightweight show-pony who pissed away money with (ahem) gay abandon.
    Although he looks quite frugal by today’s standards.

  228. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Yep, he was more efficient than Brandis when he killed off the repeal of 18C . This was a big win for the pro-immigration clowns.

    It’s all very deliberate.

  229. Tel

    MSM invented the WAP ‘quote’.

    Anning made oblique reference to White Australia Policy like this:

    Fifty years ago Australia was a cohesive, predominantly Anglo-Celtic nation. Most people thought of themselves as Christian of some sort, although most of us didn’t go to church all that often. Everyone, from the cleaners to the captains of industry, had a shared vision of who we were as a people and our place in the world. Until the late 1960s, prior to the rise of Whitlam in the Labor Party, there was a broad consensus between the Liberal and Labor parties on the kind of society we were and what we should be in the future.

    In the 1960s, both Liberal and Labor parties reflected a common framework of Judeo-Christian values, supporting the family as the basic unit of society. They both supported the principle that marriage was a union between a man and woman, and both parties recognised the sanctity of the lives of the unborn. Both major parties agreed that people should be free to live their own lives and say what they thought without fear of state sanction. Both sides of politics recognised the importance of our manufacturing industries as well as our farming and mining. Both parties recognised the importance of our predominantly European identity.

    A key part of this great pre-Whitlam consensus was bipartisan support from both Liberal and Labor for a European based immigration program.

    White Australia started coming apart with Harold Holt in the late 1960’s then with Whitlam in the early 1970’s, so there’s a strong hint that’s what he was talking about, although not specified in detail.

    Anning is right that Australians have never been asked about these issues, it’s always been simply whatever was popular with the elite and academics at the time… just like how it operates today. *shrug* If you ask you might get the wrong answer, and then what?!?

  230. Des Deskperson

    ‘Where is the desk now?’

    Brown resigned in January 1988 for misleading there house, so it would have been in Old Parliament House.

    The wifey had a relatively successful career as a PR consultant. Reportedly, her schtick was: ‘If you give me the job of publicising your function, I guarantee I can get a Federal Minister to open it for you”.

  231. .

    Until the late 1960s, prior to the rise of Whitlam in the Labor Party, there was a broad consensus between the Liberal and Labor parties on the kind of society we were and what we should be in the future.

    Dunno about that. There were Burkean conservatives and classical liberals in the Liberal Party back then.

    (Not anymore).

    There were Maoist and Stalin supporting communists in the ALP.

    (There still are).

    So, perhaps there is MORE of a shared vision now – at least between the uniparty factions.

  232. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Fifty years ago Australia was a cohesive, predominantly Anglo-Celtic nation. Most people thought of themselves as Christian of some sort, although most of us didn’t go to church all that often. Everyone, from the cleaners to the captains of industry, had a shared vision of who we were as a people and our place in the world. Until the late 1960s, prior to the rise of Whitlam in the Labor Party, there was a broad consensus between the Liberal and Labor parties on the kind of society we were and what we should be in the future.

    In the 1960s, both Liberal and Labor parties reflected a common framework of Judeo-Christian values, supporting the family as the basic unit of society. They both supported the principle that marriage was a union between a man and woman, and both parties recognised the sanctity of the lives of the unborn. Both major parties agreed that people should be free to live their own lives and say what they thought without fear of state sanction. Both sides of politics recognised the importance of our manufacturing industries as well as our farming and mining. Both parties recognised the importance of our predominantly European identity.

    A key part of this great pre-Whitlam consensus was bipartisan support from both Liberal and Labor for a European based immigration program.

    Very good stuff.

    Now how did such a weird phrase as “final solution” end up in the speech?

    You would have to be stupid not to see this is a set up.The ponzi never sleeps.

  233. stackja

    Tel
    #2789531, posted on August 15, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Menzies quietly started the change. Of course, Gough didn’t like all non-whites.

  234. Eyrie

    Some years ago on Samizdata I think, a poster calling him or her self veryretired wrote this:

    “There is no plan —- that’s the dirty little secret all the collectivist huff n puff tries so desperately to hide.
    They don’t know what they’re doing.
    Each day’s improvisation is nothing more than frantic attempt to last until tomorrow.
    So many people seem mystified at the continuous and accelerating deterioration of our economic , political, cultural and social life.
    There’s no mystery at all.
    They don’t know what they’ve done. They don’t know what they are doing now. They don’t know what to do next.
    There is only the insatiable lust for power of the terminally incompetent.
    They don’t know what they’re doing.”

    Sounds like the Australian Federal Parliament and Turnbull in particular.

  235. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Gough didn’t like all non-whites.

    Yes he did.

    Gough was many things but he didn’t want this.

  236. He wasn’t referencing ‘The Final Solution’. He was using the words with their ordinary meanings.

    Indeed. I just read the speech stackja kindly provided above and any other construal is perverse and mendacious dishonesty. He is simply saying, having outlined various interim measures, as CL also noted above, that the solution to the problem of non-European immigration is finally within the ambit of the Australian people. This has led to unending pearlclutching. What a country. Hardly worth saving. And yet.

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