Monday Forum: September 10, 2018

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  1. Death Giraffe

    What is the cost of demonizing the Koch brothers because they disagree with you on issues like trade and immigration?

    ..
    Makes us Kochless?

  2. Snoopy

    I wasn’t on the floor, Snoop.

    I don’t doubt that for a minute, Anne.

  3. Makka

    Anne,

    I think the issue concerning the jurisdiction of military courts over civilians concerns the deliberate or negligent sharing of Classified information or aiding in the procurement of that information or restricted materials with/to/for foreign powers deemed to be a threat to US national security. Commentary about the EO and changes to the UCMJ seems to indicate civilians after Jan 1 2019 can be tried by Military Courts in such cases. I think the changes make the court’s decisions impossible to appeal or pardoned by civilian judiciary process. There’s a lot of law waffle to get through.

    Declassifying the FISA docs should show that the FIS Court was deliberately mislead by a number of key FBI/DOJ operatives. That’s not treason but it certainly is criminal behavior punishable by prison sentence.

    Two separate issues I think.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The “conversation” has already begun. No need to tell Cats in which direction it is heading.

    “Aboriginal activist” Herbert Bropho – West Australian Cats will know the name – is already blaming the cops.

  5. mh

    I like them. I think they’re money has a positive impact on the US political scene and I hope they keep at it.

    Put me down as hating JC as well.

  6. Snoopy

    In fact, I think they started posting from around 1030 this morning and solidly from then on. Both have around 30 odd texts posted here.

    What sort of a sad fuck checks that? That’s Grigs level obsession.

    Too sad.

  7. Makka

    Not to be lost in the page turn and to clarify a point………

    Anne,

    I think the issue concerning the jurisdiction of military courts over civilians concerns the deliberate or negligent sharing of Classified information or aiding in the procurement of that information or restricted materials with/to/for foreign powers deemed to be a threat to US national security. In other words – charges of treason. Commentary about the EO and changes to the UCMJ seems to indicate civilians after Jan 1 2019 can be tried by Military Courts in such cases. I think the changes make the court’s decisions impossible to appeal or pardoned by civilian judiciary process. There also seems to be changes that allow these trails to be held in total secrecy. There’s a lot of law waffle to get through.

    Declassifying the FISA docs should show that the FIS Court was deliberately mislead by a number of key FBI/DOJ operatives. That’s not treason but it certainly is criminal behavior punishable by prison sentence.

    Two separate issues I think.

  8. mh

    Check out the first two paragraphs!

    Philippines’ Duterte says ‘never again’ at Israel’s Holocaust memorial

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, who once likened his crime-fighting policy to Hitler’s mass murders and then apologized for the comparison, on Monday laid a wreath to commemorate the Holocaust dead in Jerusalem.
    During his visit to Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust memorial and museum, Duterte stood alongside his daughter, Sara, whom he fathered with Elizabeth Abellana Zimmerman, his Jewish first wife, which by religious tradition makes Sara Jewish too….

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-philippines-duterte/philippines-duterte-says-never-again-at-israels-holocaust-memorial-idUSKCN1LJ1S3

  9. JC

    Put me down as hating JC as well.

    I can can live with the hate. 🙂

    Look, for the past 30 years those two have been yuge supporters of the GOP and the libertarian movement. They were and still are hated by the left. They have a fix on the immigration thing they won’t let go of. You can disagree with them on some issues and would find you’re in agreement on pretty much everything else. In any event, it doesn’t really matter because Trump will trump them whatever they think about immigration. They can’t really win on this issue. What people are looking for on the Trump side is complete obedience to the master. It’s wrong.

  10. Anne

    Trump will sack that Sessions bum after the mid terms.

    I don’t think so, Death Giraffe.

    45,000 sealed indictments! He hasn’t been sitting on his hands.

    I think there’s a lot of theatre going on with Trump and Sessions.

  11. mh

    Check out the first two paragraphs

    Philippines’ Duterte says ‘never again’ at Israel’s Holocaust memorial

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, who once likened his crime-fighting policy to Hitler’s mass murders and then apologized for the comparison, on Monday laid a wreath to commemorate the Holocaust dead in Jerusalem.
    During his visit to Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust memorial and museum, Duterte stood alongside his daughter, Sara, whom he fathered with Elizabeth Abellana Zimmerman, his Je#$sh first wife, which by religious tradition makes Sara Je*#&h too….

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-philippines-duterte/philippines-duterte-says-never-again-at-israels-holocaust-memorial-idUSKCN1LJ1S3

  12. JC

    What sort of a sad fuck checks that? That’s Grigs level obsession.

    Too sad.

    It took all of 24 seconds with command F prompt , dickhead. You’ve been here all fucking day spewing bullshit and hate filled swill. Now that’s sad. Go get a low level fucking job or some fresh air. Did you even have dinner, or are you on your own? If you are on your lonesome, I’d like to match make you with Jezabel. You’d enjoy each other’s company I’m sure- fulminating about me.

  13. Makka

    Put me down as hating JC as well.

    I think that’s rather harsh. JC has made no secret of his support for open borders and the subsequent lower wages, just like all the other libertarian nutjobs around the place. So at least it can be said that JC is not being duplicitous.

    No need to thank me JC.

  14. Snoopy

    It took all of 24 seconds with command F prompt , dickhead

    It’s not how long it took, it’s that you felt compelled to check.

    You owe me rent you sad thing.

  15. Snoopy

    JC has made no secret of his support for open borders and the subsequent lower wages, just like all the other libertarian nutjobs around the place. So at least it can be said that JC is not being duplicitous.

    No need to thank me JC.

    But that’s enough about the object of your man crush, Makka.

  16. Anne

    Thanks Makka. Yes, you’re right.

    I’ll think about it some more tomorrow.

    Something big is happening Tuesday or Wednesday (US) let’s hope it’s declassification.

  17. BrettW

    The Drum had quite a bit of coverage about the Dutton v Quadveleg stoush.

    However the thing that struck me about Quad was the number of texts he sent to his girlfriend (the one he got the job in Border Force). Paper yesterday indicated 14,000 in about 5 months. That is nearly 100 per day !

  18. JC

    It’s not how long it took, it’s that you felt compelled to check.

    You owe me rent you sad thing.

    Oh, it’s not how long it took, but the fact that you’re exposed for having a miserable existence. Got it. Last time I checked it was 37 hours straight. It’s now 12 hours and look like going on for the night.

    The cat is generally a very unhappy place full of sad losers like yourself these days. Spending hours on hours.. days.. on here will end up with you calling the Hotline. I/you/we don’t want you calling the Hotline because you know how it ends up.
    Think about the jezabel suggestion, as I think you two would make a “loving” couple.

  19. JC

    Makka
    #2814626, posted on September 11, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    Put me down as hating JC as well.

    I think that’s rather harsh. JC has made no secret of his support for open borders and the subsequent lower wages, just like all the other libertarian nutjobs around the place. So at least it can be said that JC is not being duplicitous.

    No need to thank me JC.

    Achmed:

    Do you even realize what a fucking hypocrite you are? You live and work in Africa but hate the place. Despise it in fact. Like it or hate it, you’re an immigrant there… even if it’s temporary. You’re an economic immigrant.

    However, you criticize people for wanting to do or doing now the very thing you’re doing, which is move somewhere for work and hating the place you’re living in.

    Try and lead an honest life instead of a hypocritical one, Champ. You’ll be much happier for it.

  20. MsDolittle

    14,000 in about 5 months. That is nearly 100 per day !

    Don’t get lips like that from sucking mangoes, you need a good data plan, but. (Qld).

  21. Makka

    Something big is happening Tuesday or Wednesday (US) let’s hope it’s declassification.

    If the FISA docs are declassified and if they show the FIS Court was mislead, the basis for Mueller’s investigations is shredded. mUnty will be distraught.

    It would also destroy any legitimacy of Rosenstein keeping his job as AAG.

    Given Bruce Ohr’s testimony, added to all that should be clear evidence that Obama’s WH set up the whole Russia ruse using FBI/DOJ/CIA in order to get HRC elected, using the Dems funding for the creation of the fake dossier, later used to obtain the FISA warrant to spy on Trump.

  22. mh

    Steve Price currently talking to someone called Mark Bodie (?) , apparently a media expert. This goose is saying he is “50/50” on the Mark Knight cartoon. What a fucking moron.

  23. JC

    Taken from Drudge.

    Small-business optimism highest ever; Tops Reagan…

    Republicans Unveil Plan to Make Tax Cuts Permanent…

    Booming economy led to record summer travel…

    Pelosi: Dems Need ‘New Blood’…

    Seriously though, how could the D’rats blue wave the midterms. It’s incredible if they do.

    Maybe my hunch is right, Americans no longer care much about a booming almost fully employed economy. I can’t recall one single policy the D’rats have announced that is an economic positive. It’s impeachment and Venezuela style redistribution and yet there’s continuing talk about a blue wave.

  24. C.L.

    Pelosi: Dems Need ‘New Blood’…

    So she can drink it and live forever.

  25. Leo G

    Jezebel not Jezabel.

    Alternative contemporary renderings of Biblical Jezebel:
    Jézabel (French), Isebel (German), Iezabel (Greek), ‘Izevel (Hebrew), Gezabele/Izebel (Italian), Hiezabel (Latin), Jezabel (Spanish)

  26. JC

    Pelosi: Dems Need ‘New Blood’…

    Doesn’t apply to her though.

  27. Anne

    You’re spot on, Makka. Rosenstein is the lynchpin that will bring them all down.

    I think there’s a lot of theatre going on with Trump and Sessions.

    It’s designed to get the MSM to support Sessions, which they have! Kek.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Riot squad called to Sydney Uni as protesters block halls to stop talk by sex therapist Bettina Arndt
    CHRISTOPHER HARRIS, The Daily Telegraph
    44 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    THE riot squad was called to The University of Sydney on Tuesday night after protesters blocked corridors stopping students who wanted to go to a talk by sex therapist Bettina Arndt.

    Police arrived when the 30 or 40 students wouldn’t move out of a corridor blocking access about 6pm last night.

    Ms Arndt said she was sorry the police had to be called to protect students right to speak openly and discuss different ideas.

    “Universities are becoming increasingly unsafe places not only for young women but for young men,” she said during her talk.

    “It is the most unromantic thing to ask ‘Can I kiss you? Can I touch you?’. Most women don’t want a man to behave that way.”

    Ms Arndt also cautioned against NSW changing sexual consent laws in the wake of the rape trials involving Sydney man Luke Lazarus.

    I thought universities were supposed to develop the intellect, and encourage thinking?

  29. P

    Last night Steve trickler gave us Mary Hopkin. Brought back memories for me from the 60’s.

    Tonight I give you memories from a later time –

  30. JC

    He’s so lovable.
    Gonsky.

    The Trump administration is expected to announce that it will close the Palestine Liberation Organization’s Washington office. The move widens a U.S. campaign of pressure amid stalled Middle East peace efforts, reports Michael R. Gordon. “The United States will always stand with our friend and ally, Israel,” national security adviser John Bolton plans to say in prepared remarks he is scheduled to deliver Monday.

  31. C.L.

    Dutton takes no prisoners.
    He certainly kneecapped Roman Quaedvlieg today in parliament.

  32. mh

    It’s impeachment and Venezuela style redistribution and yet there’s continuing talk about a blue wave.

    There was also talk about how much Hillary would win by. I never believed that and I don’t believe the blue wave now. Heartland America won’t forget the millions sacrificed to globalism.

  33. Bruce in WA

    Best line ever in a movie:

    “Infamy! Infamy!

    They’ve all got it infamy!”

    Best line ever from a cardiologist:

    “Doesn’t seem to be anything too concerning. We’ll just have a check tomorrow to make sure!”

    ‘Night all.

    Make that “happy” ‘night all!

  34. Makka

    However, you criticize people for wanting to do or doing now the very thing you’re doing, which is move somewhere for work

    This folks is JC lying. JC, if you have a link to prove any of that, put it up. If not you really are just lying again.

    It’s our Govt I despise for their immigration policies. The migrants are mere numbers to me. Unless they are moslems in which case they all have allegiance to their violent faith, not Australia. So should never be allowed entry.

    Thanks also for confirming again you are 100% on board with open borders and low wages.

    Like it or hate it, you’re an immigrant there… even if it’s temporary. You’re an economic immigrant.

    Exactly and legal too, contract and everything. I’ve even been issued a residency by the Govt. It’s their policy to bring in my skills. But the important bit you keep failing to understand so I’ll dumb it way down for you- legitimate skills shortage. Not like in Australia where your open borders libertarian arsehole maaates import tens of thousands of 3rd world baristas and fast food attendants to buttress the population ponzi you support. Or importing the “skills” we are so short of that see thousands of migrants unemployed. No skills shortage. Do you understand the difference , shithead?

    I don’t expect you the grasp this btw. You know, the real working world. Your only overseas experiences are confined to sharing Euro beaches with fat Germans or jollies in NYC.

  35. Jo Smyth

    Does anybody know what the viewing figures are for Janine Perretts Heads Up programme. I accidentally listened to it for about 5 minutes and that was enough. I can’t believe anybody could actually sit through it.

  36. JC

    This folks is JC lying. JC, if you have a link to prove any of that, put it up. If not you really are just lying again.

    Truly Achmed, isn’t the lying schick getting a little old in the tooth? You use it against anyone who you disagree with. Liar, liar, pants on fire is just too old.

    You’ve been peddling zero immigration for about three years and now they are just numbers.

    LOL

    Seriously, try a little harder.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Seriously though, how could the D’rats blue wave the midterms. It’s incredible if they do.

    Maybe my hunch is right, Americans no longer care much about a booming almost fully employed economy. I can’t recall one single policy the D’rats have announced that is an economic positive. It’s impeachment and Venezuela style redistribution and yet there’s continuing talk about a blue wave.

    We’re witnessing a compete societal breakdown across the western world.

    I just read about some band who had a hit song a few years ago and they now only perform it because they think their lyrics are misogynistic. It was written by the lead singer who is a woman.

    Half the world wants socialism and the other half is too scared to argue against the lunacy because it’s now politically incorrect.

  38. Makka

    Truly Achmed, isn’t the lying schick getting a little old in the tooth?

    Put the quote or link up JC. Or wear your title of cowardly Lying X*nt with pride. Do it and stop the obfuscating and hand waving. Grow some balls.

  39. Fat Tony

    Anne – are you still coming up Toowoomba way?
    Send me an email thru Sinc & we can catch up if you want.

  40. JC

    Put the quote or link up JC. Or wear your title of cowardly Lying X*nt with pride. Do it and stop the obfuscating and hand waving. Grow some balls.

    I don’t think human males can have more than two testicles in one lifetime. I have my two. You were birthed without any so there’s still a chance. However, I very much doubt you will though because you can’t admit when you’re wrong while totally dissembling about what the other party said.

    You’re now pro immigration, Achmed? That’s a new skin.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Won’t perform it.

  42. Fat Tony

    JC – could you, every now & then, post of list of your names and their names please?

    I gets a bit hard to follow sometimes – though I have worked out who Ronery and Rooster are.

    thanks

  43. Anne

    Bless you, Tony.

    I love that part of the world.

    I’ll come do a reconnoiter before I sell up.

    Won’t be for a year or two though, after the dog dies.

  44. Makka

    I don’t think human males can have more than two testicles in one lifetime. I have my two.

    Then they don’t seem to be doing you much good then, coward. I offer you a chance to prove yourself. Where’s your quote or link proving your assertion?

    You’ve got nothing JC. All waffle, piss and wind. A big loudmouth fkg liar.

  45. JC

    Makka – Achmed.

    Textor – Snoopsy
    Jezebel – Johanna
    1010 Wins or just 1010 – Stackja
    Driller- Serena/Sal/Steve at the pub
    Can’t think of anyone else.

  46. Fat Tony

    Anne
    #2814662, posted on September 11, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    Thanks Anne – whenever suits you.

  47. None

    Serena is Steve at the pub? Did he finally get the snip?

  48. JC

    Prove what, Achmed? Prove that you’re anti-immigration? Don’t make me fucking laugh. Your two big ideas are zero immigration and north Korean level of international trade activity…. or better still mid east trade ex oil… in other words carpets/ rugs and spices.

  49. mh

    The Corporate media at their lunatic best on 9/11:

    In an opinion editorial published by The Washington Post Monday, MSNBC Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough claimed President Donald Trump poses a “far graver threat to the idea of America” than the September 11 attacks.
    Scarborough’s piece, titled “Trump is harming the dream of America more than any foreign adversary ever could,” …

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/09/11/joe-scarborough-donald-trump-far-graver-threat-to-the-idea-of-america-than-9-11/

    Notice how America is a “idea”. No need to have a border then.

  50. JC

    Serena is Steve at the pub? Did he finally get the snip?

    Yea a while ago. He was very nice about it. One day she just came onto the Cat and informed us that s/he was sick of being a man and had lived with the idea of transmogrifying into a sexy lady most of her adult life. She asked would we mind referring to her as Serena from from then on. She also described her sex change and how she was elated to finally have D-cup sized breasts and cleavage.

    All of us, to a man and woman wished her the very best. It was the only thing we could do. Very uplifting and inclusive time at the Cat.

  51. Makka

    Prove what, Achmed? Prove that you’re anti-immigration?

    More obfuscation.

    No. You stated this ;
    JC:

    you criticize people for wanting to do or doing now the very thing you’re doing, which is move somewhere for work

    4th time, show a quote or link.

    Sure, I criticize the Govt for their immigration policies and sure I am against our high immigration intake ( and oppose scum like you who favour open borders and high immigration numbers). But that’s not what you assert.

    Read your own words fkwit. Show the quote or link.

  52. JC

    More obfuscation.

    No it isn’t. It’s pretty clear.

    Okay then, describe your positions of both immigration and trade.

    Go!

  53. None

    Thanks JC ( I can’t stop laughing). Nice to see the Cat has a diversity officer. I will have to say that you’re being a bit unfair on Makka. http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/07/30/thought-bubbles/

  54. Makka

    No it isn’t. It’s pretty clear.

    Okay then, describe your positions of both immigration and trade.

    Lol, pathetic.

    Coward,
    4 times now I’ve offered you the opportunity to back up your assertion. You haven’t because you can’t.

    Instead, you’ve waved your arms about, made childish slurs, tried to move the goalposts, verballed … all your regular dumb diversion plays to avoid one simple fact that you have proven yet again. You made shit up and got caught again.

    You are a fkg liar.

    “Go!”
    Lol, you’re such a joke.

  55. JC

    Easy then, if our impression is incorrect then explain your position on those two things. Show us that you’re a free trader and open borders hound.

    Go, achmed!

  56. .

    Soon after his high jump over the wall, 13 Nations signed a treaty, many more have joined since (?43) independent travel or exploration beyond the 60th parallel became illegal.

    Oh dear god. Looks a freaking map, please.

  57. Makka

    Easy then, if our impression is incorrect

    5th time, Coward. Put.up.the.link. or quote that proves your assertion.

    Until then stop with the lame diversionary bullshit or you can simply admit you’ve been caught lying again.

    I’m sure your mother don’t raise you to lie so why do you do it?

  58. Makka

    I’m sure your mother didn’t ….

  59. None

    JC give it a miss. In that thread that I posted Makka made it quite clear he preferred controlled immigration and inferred that the present levels were too high. In that he would be in line with the overwhelming majority of Australians. No where did he stayed he wanted Sarah immigration but rather those were word you repeatedly try to place in his mouth. Even if he did want zero immigration he is entitled to his opinion. He does not have to prove he is a open borders fiend or whatever. But since you are I expect that we all get keys to your pad in New York.

  60. JC

    Achmed

    You really need to totally stop this lying accusation. It’s old and makes you look hysterical. I’ve said, if our impression of you being Bill the Butcher is wrong then explain your position.

    It’s not hard.

  61. .

    I think the changes make the court’s decisions impossible to appeal or pardoned by civilian judiciary process.

    No.

    The main service branches have their own appeals courts, whose decisions are appealable to the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces and then the USSC has supreme judicial powers including judicial review.

    The President has a constitutional power to grant pardons, which has been viewed by the USSC to be a wide manner of mercy and clemency powers as well (remission, amnesty).

  62. Mark A

    None
    #2814683, posted on September 12, 2018 at 12:06 am

    Speaking of skilled immigrants, try to get a job in the EU (if not from a member state) if your skills are not absolutely needed.
    Compared to them Aus. has its gates wide open.

    What is ironic that they have the temerity to lecture us on the issue.

  63. Makka

    None,
    The real issue behind stoushes such as this is that JC runs scared at being outed as an open borders , low wages for everyone loony. That’s why he makes these false outlandish accusations and slurs. Diversions.

    In JC’s strategy, anything that gets between him and profits of the companies he has shares in must be reprehensible and therefore destroyed. Like borders and sensible immigration policy (Koch Bros are great). It’s the same as Soros policy. His self styled personna of the blog economics guru becomes tainted if people realise what a shithole he would have us all endure for the sake of his profits.

  64. None

    Mark A. Australia’s current immigration policy is f****** madness and counterproductive. And of course every open borders fanatic does not want the newbies living near them and driving down their own house prices much less clothing up there streets with gangs or 7th century harems.

  65. Makka

    dotty,

    Ok. I’ll have another read but I was sure there was reference to clear changes in the appeals process and pardon in the civilian sphere (of course POTUS can pardon as he is CIC after all).

  66. None

    Makka, JC is also entitled to his opinion no matter how lunatic. And yes I do think an open borders policy is lunacy. It’s hilarious how I only lunatic Western Nations even consider it. The rest of the world isn’t that dumb.

  67. Makka

    Nothing Coward? Zip. Fuck off now.

  68. Makka

    Makka, JC is also entitled to his opinion no matter how lunatic.

    I’m well aware of that. I go to great pains to expose exactly what his opinion is on that, if you hadn’t noticed.
    Our immigration policy is utter madness. It will be the death of the country.

  69. zyconoclast

    Filming of staged chemical attack in Syrian Idlib begins – Russian MoD

    Footage, meant to serve as proof that the Syrian government has conducted a chemical weapons attack in Idlib, Syria, is to be handed to global news outlets by the end of Tuesday, the Russian military claims.
    Read more

    “All the footage of the staged provocation in Jisr al-Shughur is to be delivered to the newsrooms of TV channels, which are to broadcast it after its publication on social media,” the statement claimed.

    It also said that an Islamist group was provided with two canisters of a “chlorine-based chemical” for the purpose of the operation.

    The Russian military said the footage would include scenes of White Helmets operatives treating supposed victims of an apparent barrel bomb chemical weapon attack by Damascus.

    Moscow has repeatedly warned that a false flag chemical weapon attack was being prepared in Idlib, giving the US and its allies justification to attack Syrian government forces. Senior US officials have threatened Damascus with retaliation if it uses chemical weapons in Idlib and even preemptively assigned the blame for any such attack to the government.

  70. None

    Our immigration policy is utter madness. It will be the death of the country.

    We could all move to JC’s New York apartment.

  71. If the FISA docs are declassified and if they show the FIS Court was mislead, the basis for Mueller’s investigations is shredded. mUnty will be distraught.

    It continues to be hilarious how little time you lot devote to showing Trump is innocent. Your only move is to accuse the cops of procedural errors. These are not the tactics of a wronged victim.

  72. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2814697, posted on September 12, 2018 at 1:03 am

    If the FISA docs are declassified and if they show the FIS Court was mislead, the basis for Mueller’s investigations is shredded. mUnty will be distraught.

    It continues to be hilarious how little time you lot devote to showing Trump is innocent.

    That is the way of the french courts Monty, you have to show your innocence.
    We do it differently, prove Trump guilty.

  73. Nick

    An Age opinion writer opines that Knight’s cartoon was racist, saying “The trouble is that Knight has gone out of his way to depict her not as a champion athlete but as wild and barbaric; full-lipped, ugly and ape-like.”

    Really? I saw a tennis player but he saw ‘wild, barbaric, ugly and ape like’, yet we are the racists. Go figure eh?

  74. Top Ender

    Shorten linked to Dutton feud with Quaedvlieg

    Bill Shorten has been caught up in the bitter feud between Peter ­Dutton and Roman Quaedvlieg after the Home Affairs Minister ­revealed one of the Opposition Leader’s senior advisers had worked for the sacked Australian Border Force commissioner.

    Paul Iozzi was Mr Quaedvlieg’s chief of staff when he headed the ABF and now works as Mr Shorten’s national security adviser. The long-time defence and political adviser also worked as Labor MP Mike Kelly’s chief of staff when he was defence materiel minister in 2013.

    Mr Dutton seized on the connection yesterday after enduring weeks of attacks from Labor and the Greens over his intervention in two au pair visa cases, and ­labelled Mr Quaedvlieg as Mr Shorten’s “Godwin Grech”.

    Using parliamentary privilege, Mr Dutton launched a blistering attack on Mr Quaedvlieg, a former Queensland police colleague and the man he appointed as the nation’s first ABF commissioner three years ago. “This smear is coming from the former Australian Border Force commissioner, a man who was as commissioner sacked from his position. He was a man who had groomed a girl 30 years younger than himself. He is discredited and disgraced,” Mr Dutton told parliament. “As it turns out his executive officer now is a senior adviser. Who to? The Leader of the Opposition.

    “What he does is put out these fictitious bits of information and salacious detail that he can’t back up. He has been proven already to be discredited. He is someone the Labor Party should not rely on. And I think what has happened here is a lot has been promised to the Labor Party, but it is clear to me that Roman Quaedvlieg is your Godwin Grech.”

    Mr Grech is a former Treasury official who was caught fabricating evidence as part of the ­“Utegate” scandal, which ensnared Malcolm Turnbull when he was opposition leader in 2009.

    It was Mr Dutton’s second attack against Mr Quaedvlieg in less than a week after the former Customs chief provided two written submissions to a Labor-led Senate committee looking into ­allegations the former Liberal leadership contender misused his ministerial powers by intervening in the au pair cases.

    The Senate yesterday agreed to allow the committee to extend its reporting date until next Wednesday, potentially giving it time to invite Mr Quaedvlieg to provide evidence in person.

    Mr Dutton has lashed the written evidence as “entirely false and indeed fabricated” and blamed Mr Quaedvlieg’s allegations on his “bitterness” over his sacking as head of the ABF in March.

    Mr Quaedvlieg was dismissed for misbehaviour in the wake of a lengthy review into his misconduct with a younger female staffer.

    A Labor source confirmed Mr Iozzi was employed in Mr Shorten’s office but noted he had worked in the public service for more than 20 years and for many people, including Department of Home Affairs secretary Michael Pezzullo. Mr Iozzi’s CV includes positions in the Defence Dep­artment from 2003 to 2012 and a stint Australian Customs and Border Protection Service director.

    Mr Quaedvlieg labelled Mr Dutton’s attack against him extraordinary and said an allegation he “groomed” a girl was “disgusting and offensive”.

    “I call on him to formally withdraw that comment,” he said. “It is extraordinary behaviour from a cabinet minister to pre-emptively impugn the character and reputation of a witness ­attempting to engage properly in a parliamentary process which ost­ensibly affords the same privilege to that witness that he, Mr Dutton, comfortably shielded under today to accuse me of the criminal ­offence of sexual grooming.”

    Mr Quaedvlieg denied government claims he met Mr Shorten’s staff after he lost his ABF job in March. “I have never met with anyone from Bill Shorten’s office. I don’t have any ALP connections, now or historically,” he said.

    Mr Dutton said there was “not one statement” he had made during the au pair saga that Labor could point to as being “factually incorrect” and rejected reports he had helped two Queensland ­policemen get jobs in the ABF. One, Matt Stock, is employed in Mr Dutton’s office as a departmental officer working in policy.

    Oz complete article

  75. Top Ender

    Grief for Chris and Jack after police chase ends in river tragedy

    VICTORIA LAURIE
    SENIOR REPORTER

    Grief and shock have swept through a large network of Aboriginal families across Perth and regional Western Australia after two teenage boys drowned in the Swan River while being chased by police.

    Grieving mother Winne Hayward last night gave permission for a photograph of her 16-year-old son, Chris Drage, to be published in The Australian. He died alongside his friend, 17-year-old Jack Simpson, known as JackJack, as they tried to swim across the river to evade police who had pursued them and three other boys. Two of the four boys who entered the water were helped ashore. A fifth boy who was last seen running along the foreshore was found safe nearly 24 hours after the chase mid-afternoon on Monday.

    The Australian has been told the chase may have started at the Maylands Bowling Club, at the end of a peninsula bordered by water on three sides, after police spotted the boys on a green.

    Police Commissioner Chris Dawson announced yesterday that the five boys, all under 18, had been chased on foot by two police officers in the residential suburb after a report that the boys had been jumping over the fences of houses.

    “It’s nothing short of a tragedy that has taken two boys’ lives,” Mr Dawson said shortly after the second boy’s body was found yesterday morning.

    The first boy’s body was pulled from the water by police divers on Monday night.

    Police say they are still trying to piece together the sequence of events.

    A Maylands resident reported that their house had been ransacked in Clarkson Road, close to the Swan River, which wraps around the suburb in a U shape. There is no bridge, meaning the only way to exit the area is along a relatively narrow peninsula.

    Mr Dawson said the two police officers were pursuing the boys when, sometime between 3.15 and 3.30pm, four of the boys jumped into the water and tried to swim to the other side.

    The two officers were quickly joined by a number of Tactical ­Response Group officers who were nearby and saw the boys enter the water.

    Up to three officers waded in and rescued the boy nearest the shore. Part or all of this is thought to have been captured by a member of the public on a mobile phone.

    Mr Dawson appealed to that person to come forward with the vision, which would be important to the state coroner.

    Mr Dawson said two boys got into difficulties in the middle of the river “and were not seen to ­resurface”.

    One of the police officers was swimming towards the two boys in the middle of the river when they went under. The officer continued swimming across the river to reach a fourth boy and helped him to reach the other shore.

    Police divers recovered the body of one boy at 8.30 (AWST) on Monday night in water with only 10cm visibility. The body of the second boy was recovered about 9.50am yesterday.

    The two boys who were rescued were treated by St John’s Ambulance and reunited with relatives. The fifth boy was located mid-afternoon yesterday and reunited with his family.

    The Australian has spoken to people who knew both of the boys who lost their lives.

    Mervyn Eades, of the Ngalla Maya group that is working to divert indigenous people away from jail, said: “Chris was a beautiful kid. He loved motorbikes, his mates, his Mum. His story is similar to a lot of young Aboriginal people — he lacked opportunities but he had the potential for a great future.”

    A friend of the Simpson family yesterday described Jack as happy-go-lucky and fearless. He never had much, according to one adult who knew him, and simple things made him happy.

    “He was cheeky but in a lovely way,” the adult said.

    Mr Dawson said the boys’ deaths would be investigated in the same way as a death in custody “due to the nature of this loss of life in police presence”.

    The Australian has been told all five boys are from indigenous families with connections throughout the state’s midwest and southwest.

    The federal government’s ­National Indigenous Critical ­Response Service confirmed that it was helping to support the ­relatives of the deceased boys.

    Police contact with Aboriginal people is especially sensitive in Western Australia, where the rate of indigenous incarceration is the highest in the nation and where mistrust lingers over cases such as the 2014 death in custody of a 22-year-old Aboriginal woman known for cultural reasons only as Ms Dhu.

    She had begged to be hos­pitalised as she was dying from septicemia in a Pilbara lock-up.

    At the state’s children’s jail in Perth’s southwest, up to 70 per cent of inmates are indigenous.

    Mr Dawson made a public apology last month during ­NAIDOC week for cases in which he said police had discriminated against Aborigines.

    Asked yesterday about the apology and the deaths of the two boys, the commissioner said: “I’m not going to respond in any manner to the question you asked, out of respect for the families.”

    Mr Dawson said he would respond at a later time.

    Oz complete

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cassie i generally like your posts but the shit ‘darling’ to your female friends is pure upper class snobbery.

    Nah. That’s just Cassie. It’s handbag talk, s’all. One swinging dame who wields a very fine handbag, so don’t get in her way. 80’s parties? Cassie, we must talk more.

    Tinta, glad to see you fronting up for Bettina Arndt’s lekkie. Hairy sends you a special message re Michael Spence: occupy his office. 😀

    Speaking of Hairy, he has just asked where the TV is in this room. He’s waving around a remote, and we can’t see it anywhere, as we haven’t used it since arriving here, nor noticed its absense. Has it been stolen by a previous person? I worry. Turn it on and see if anything happens, I say after a moment’s reflection, knowing this place by now. Sure enough, there is a great big black mirror opposite our huge circular bed and its grand chromatotherapy oval spa; quite interestingly placed, actually. Hairy presses on, and suddenly Smart TV comes on in the middle of the mirror and Russia Today is talking to us. Look, for all I know there are hidden cameras in there, filming our every move. I hope we put on a good enough show.

    Hadrian’s Villa is a knockout. Tell you later. We are going out to eat now.

  77. Mark A

    Looks like Tom is having access issues again.

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That mirror is twelve foot high and more than a metre wide, edged by the curtians of our two windows, so you can’t see the hidden electric lead attached to it at floor level. Tricky, if you ask me. It’ll be voice activated next; if it isn’t already!

  79. Tom

    No, Mark A — just a bit more work than usual putting it together.

    The fascist American left, via Jack Dorsey’s Brown Shirts at Twitter, has declared war on cartooning after their zombie brothers-in-arms in the US media went apeshit in support of Serena Williams’ tantrum at the US Open. Twitter’s good little Germans banned Mark Knight’s account after he drew the Williams dummy spit yesterday.

    The southern hemisphere’s biggest selling newspaper, the Herald Sun, rediscovered the courage that went missing in the Andrew Bolt case and backed Knight with today’s banner front page — WELCOME TO PC WORLD – SATIRE-FREE ZONE above the writeoff: “If the self-appointed censors of Mark Knight get their way on his Serena Williams cartoon, our new politically correct life will be very dull indeed”, pointing to stories on the subject inside.

    I’d strongly suggest Victorian Cats buy a souvenir copy.

  80. Tom

    Paul Zanetti, who, he tells us, started his cadetship with Knight “in the same art department, same year”, drew this in support.

  81. Tom

    Instead of expressing solidarity with his brothers — as other cartoonists have done — Trump-deranged pissant lefty Peter Broelman tweeted: “Interesting that the backlash against Mark Knight’s cartoon is predominately from a country whose president refuses to condemn the KKK”. The brothers will remember that, you little twerp.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pat Cross for me. Respectful, and bitingly critical of a certain bunch of rather disloyal people.

    Zanetti has a very good article to go with his cartoon:

    As Mark Knight has discovered, it’s a dangerous business being funny

    It sure is.

  83. Elle

    Thanks Tom. A good mix. 🙂

  84. hzhousewife

    RN reporting on a little “Australian” girl, 11, refusing to stand for our national anthem (at school?) because “Advance Australia Fair” means white people only. Her parents support her. Good Grief Charlie Brown !

  85. Crossie

    Mark Knight should be flattered, not only is he being reviled he is now copied though Tom Stiglich doesn’t have the flair that Knight has.

  86. Crossie

    hzhousewife
    #2814724, posted on September 12, 2018 at 6:48 am
    RN reporting on a little “Australian” girl, 11, refusing to stand for our national anthem (at school?) because “Advance Australia Fair” means white people only. Her parents support her. Good Grief Charlie Brown !

    My guess would be she is following the parents’ example so of course they will support her.

  87. Geriatric Mayfly

    France: Muslim who drove car onto airport runway said “I have been sent by Allah,” has “psychiatric fragility”
    More tampering with the language, to put us all at ease and maybe wring a tear of sympathy.

  88. Shy Ted

    Using parliamentary privilege, Mr Dutton launched a blistering attack on Mr Quaedvlieg, a former Queensland police colleague and the man he appointed as the nation’s first ABF commissioner three years ago. “This smear is coming from the former Australian Border Force commissioner, a man who was as commissioner sacked from his position. He was a man who had groomed a girl 30 years younger than himself. He is discredited and disgraced,” Mr Dutton told parliament. “As it turns out his executive officer now is a senior adviser. Who to? The Leader of the Opposition.
    And that, Scott, is how to be a Prime Minister.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well done, Tom. And with the added information.
    Cartoonists under attack again.

  90. Shy Ted

    Trump-deranged pissant lefty Peter Broelman tweeted: “Interesting that the backlash against Mark Knight’s cartoon is predominately from a country whose president refuses to condemn the KKK”.
    Can’t draw, can’t spell. Predominantly!

  91. Geriatric Mayfly

    A second case of monkeypox was reportedly discovered in England, just days after the first-ever case in the country was confirmed in Cornwall. Both patients are believed to have recently visited Nigeria,

    We will have to tread very carefully around this one. Surely, it has a scientific name which will be unpronounceable and a deterrent to any who may be inclined to racist thinking.

  92. Eyrie

    “Two teenage Aboriginal boys have drowned in Perth’s Swan River after diving in to evade police.”
    Annoying cultural appropriation. The traditional Australian song is about a WHITE swagman jumping in to a body of water to evade police. They should have listened right to the end. The swaggie drowns.

  93. Shy Ted

    Marvelous! National Press Club Address today – Sex Discrimination Commissioner Kate Jenkins addresses the National press Club on the topic “Results of the fourth national survey into workplace sexual harassment”.
    I do hope I get an honourable mention. She does lotsa good lefty work – She is leading a number of projects at the Australian Human Rights Commission, including the National Inquiry into sexual harassment in Australian workplaces and the Commission’s collaborative project on cultural reform with the Australian Defence Force. Kate is the convener of the National Male Champions of Change group (established 2015), and the Co-Chair of Play by the Rules, a joint project between human rights agencies and sports commissions to make grass roots sports safe, fair and inclusive. Prior to joining the Commission, Kate spent three years as the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner. In that role she held an Independent Review into Sex Discrimination and Sexual Harassment, including Predatory Behaviour, in Victoria Police. She was also the Co-Chair of the Victorian Commission’s Disability Reference Group and a member of the Aboriginal Justice Forum.
    Another must-see prog from their ABC.

  94. stackja

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s expletive-laden tirade over GST
    ROB HARRIS, National politics reporter, Herald Sun
    September 12, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    MALCOLM Turnbull was forced to sideline Scott Morrison in critical GST negotiations after his then treasurer allegedly abused his Tasmanian counterpart in an expletive-laden tirade.

    The former PM’s interventions in negotiations for a new GST carve-up came after ­sources claim Mr Morrison told Tasmanian Treasurer Peter Gutwein he was a “f—ing mendicant” — an old-­fashioned term for a beggar.

    The deal with Tasmania was only clinched after Mr Turnbull negotiated directly with Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman.

    But last night, a spokesman for Mr Morrison categorically denied claims, saying the suggestion was “offensive”.

    Asked about the claims yesterday, Mr Gutwein issued a statement saying he’d had a number of conversations with Mr Morrison regarding the GST while he was treasurer.

    “I enjoy a constructive and positive working relationship with Prime Minister Morrison,” he said. “I have always said I’d fight for Tasmania’s fair share.”

    It is the third damaging leak to the Herald Sun to rock the Morrison Government following $7.6 billion in infrastructure spending and a planned $4.4 billion peace deal over Catholic and independent schools funding.

    The bust-up between the two treasurers came days after federal Cabinet had ticked off a proposal for a new GST carve-up. At the time, the Turnbull government was fighting a by-election in Braddon following the resignation of Labor MP Justine Keay over citizenship issues.

    So concerned were Tasmanian Liberals about Mr Morrison’s attitude towards ­their state they asked their ­counterparts in Canberra to counsel Mr Morrison before he did media in the state.

    Senior Liberal sources have told the Herald Sun the government feared Tasmania had the greatest concerns outside of Western Australia over being dudded in the deal, and it was important to get the backing of its Liberal government before progressing further.

    The Herald Sun understands Mr Morrison grew increasingly angry during the short call after Mr Gutwein had expressed his concerns the deal was short-changing the states.

    The conversation finished with Mr Morrison’s insult and without Mr Gutwein’s backing.

    Mr Turnbull then stepped in to deal directly with Mr Hodgman to alter the arrangement to ensure it would receive the state’s blessing, pending the state’s own treasury modelling backing up the figures ­presented.

    On July 5, Mr Morrison announced the GST proposal, which ensured Tasmania would be $112 million better off under the new model.

    Mr Hodgman said at the time his treasury department would study the proposal to determine if it was in the state’s best interests.

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  95. Dave in Marybrook

    Hey, I am a published cartoonist. Sure, it was last century in the student union rag, but I’ll throw in my two bits’ worth.
    Knight was fairly level, and gave a very good likeness. There could have been no doubt that he was portraying Serena- not even Venus springs to mind. The mouth was overblown, part of infantilising her face- have a look at anyone under two you’ve got nearby- but that’s how her tongue looks when shouting, or cheering a point. Have a look at any press photo of the incident for the tongue- I’ve got no doubt that Knight did.
    Colour was a washout, she’s a richer hue brown and more than a few shades darker. But Osaka in the background was too, and the green of the astroturf, so that’s what you get.
    If it was me, I’d try drawing Williams’ tutu as the polyester Elsa dress that’s been ubiquitous weekend shopping wear for the more indulged girl for a few years now.
    In other cartoon commentary, can a connected Cat please tweet at Johannes Leak to ditch the lumpen puns? Puns should only be delivered straightfaced, with nary a wink- the subscript cringey showboating is dragging down the energy.

  96. candy

    Publishing a private conversatiom of Christian man using f word. Got the feel of turnbull/bishop leak.

  97. Entropy

    Yes, interesting that the journalists made that story about ScoMo, rather than the rather obvious motives of the informant.

  98. calli

    Ooooooh! Ahhhhh! Christian man goes all sweary at a moocher.

    This is news?

  99. Tom

    Lots of green-voting Lord Trumble appointees still in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, poisoning the well for SloMo while barracking for the Filth to win the Wentworth by-election and bring down the government on October 6.

  100. John Constantine

    The heat, wind and dust storms of yesterday has flipped the switch to hay season from grain season over a lot of south east Australia.

    The grain tonnages announced in the media do not reflect the mass haycut being launched right now.

    Better some hay than no grain.

    Supply and demand will be interesting until an informed market sets prices.

  101. calli

    If SloMo called the mendicant a mendicant, then he’s gone up in my estemation. If he used the f-bomb, tough.

    Truth telling, writ large. Suck it up.

  102. calli

    estimation

    With extra esteem.

  103. Gary

    .
    #2813981, posted on September 11, 2018 at 10:46 am
    “In the ten years or so that I’ve worked with people, 100 percent — every single last one of them — has had some kind of event — traumatic, painful, horrible, some sexual, some physical, some emotional — happen to them, sometime between the ages of 4 and 15, that caused them to not want to be who they are,” Heyer told PJ Media.
    Can’t they just be born that way – even if you think they have a mental problem?
    Not everyone is born with a full deck of cards.

    I agree since I’m living proof but I think he was just relaying his experience.

  104. stackja

    Riot squad called to Sydney Uni as protesters block halls to stop talk by sex therapist Bettina Arndt
    CHRISTOPHER HARRIS, The Daily Telegraph
    31 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    THE riot squad was called to The University of Sydney after protesters blocked corridors stopping students who wanted to go to a talk by sex therapist Bettina Arndt.

    Police arrived when the 30 or 40 students wouldn’t move out of a corridor blocking access about 6pm last night.

  105. stackja

    Spaminator doesn’t like the full Arndt report.

  106. Farmer Gez

    Better some hay than no grain.

    There may not be much hay John C.
    Quite a few Northern crops will fail to head and seem to be collapsing into a dry tussock. Dedicated oaten hay crops are browning off as they are double sown and overfed for the rainfall.
    Canola is being cut now and even some good irrigated crops are going to the certainty of hay income. Lots of offers of crops for cutting on tendering sites.

  107. struth

    Good Moaning

    Obviously, our Twitter rabble are mostly newly minted Cultural Marxists from the west’s brainwashing facilities known as “universities” and the “education sector”.
    Based entirely on hatred of the west, twisting the truth and smacking history for six, they produce the insanity we are now witnessing.
    Racists, including white ones, are now disgusted with white people, the west, and believe that hundreds of coal powered power stations being built in communist countries won’t affect the climate, only western ones do.
    Only western emissions are of a concern.
    Racists are seeing racists where none exist, and never see the real racist in the mirror.
    These racists believe white people are bad and cannot be victims of racism…………………
    Because, apparently, they have white skin which makes them racists.

    When you get to this level of insanity, is it time to at least question how we came to this point?

    Of course all of the insanity we are now witnessing is, every bit of it, classic cultural Marxism and Frankfurt school tactics.
    Divide and conquer.
    Make everyone feel like they are victims of the enemy.

    But who is the enemy?
    Why?

    We all know.
    Western white men.
    Not western hating, western white men.
    No?
    Well, maybe we’ve seen a couple of examples in Hollywood, where it’s all come back to bite them on the arse, but generally, not yet.

    When this brave new world of Marxist insanity gains full control, where will the stale old white men like the leader of the Australian Greens, or Philip Adams, or even the hundreds of not so old beta male Uni students going along with this to get a root,…….be in the scheme of things?

    Gentlemen, you play with fire you will get burned.

    You may consider that you will spray tan yourself, do a sTan as it were, but they’ll get you.
    If they find out you are doing that, they’ll find a way of banning spray tanning to flush you out.
    You may claim to be black while being totally white, female when male, believing people will humour you and respect your right to change race and sex at will.
    As Trans (cross dressers) have found out in London, Lesso’s don’t see you as women.
    They see you as the disgusting, terrible white men you are.
    Terrible lack of respect they are showing there.
    So to all you old white male Marxists infecting our youth with your psychotic filth in Universities.
    All you stale old white men who are Deans and faculty pushing this Marxist shit.
    Have you not seen how this has already worked out for some of your ilk?

    The Left are racist and they hate the west.
    As the Socialist Hitler was.
    As they all still do.
    Our politicians are now caving into this with genitalia quotas in parliament.
    We know we are in deep shit.
    But siding with the enemies of the west, indeed fighting with them to bring down the west, will not save you.
    You are male and exist in a white skin.
    Apologise for it all you like.
    It won’t save you.

  108. Viva

    I note that American cartoonist Stiglich was very careful to make Maxine Water’s lips thinner than they actually are while Knight did the opposite in his depiction of Williams. I’m pretty sure that’s what got him into hot water. These days it doesn’t take much.

  109. struth

    People all around the world will be waiting for the next cartoon from Mark Knight.
    Go you good thing.

    Or is he capitulating?
    He should be riding the “blue wave of hate” for all it’s worth.

  110. mh

    Chris ‘Mad Dog’ Russo Slams Serena: ‘Who the Hell Are You?’

    Monday, SiriusXM radio host Chris “Mad Dog” Russo criticized tennis star Serena Williams’ tirade at the U.S. Open after being penalized for receiving illegal coaching. Williams went on to berate the umpire and break rackets, even turning the situation into a sexist issue and about being a mother….

    Listen here:
    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/09/11/chris-mad-dog-russo-slams-serena-who-the-hell-are-you/

  111. H B Bear

    Usual media reporting of events in Perth. A bunch of lovable kids out just doing a bit of housebreaking during the afternoon when most people are at work. Surprisingly, none of them were promising footballers. At least they didn’t kill any innocent people like they so often do when crashing stolen cars.

  112. H B Bear

    The former PM’s interventions in negotiations for a new GST carve-up came after ­sources claim Mr Morrison told Tasmanian Treasurer Peter Gutwein he was a “f—ing mendicant” — an old-­fashioned term for a beggar.

    I’d have a lot more respect for SloMo if he’d just come out and own this. Trash a couple of seats on the basket case island but might save them in WA. The sooner someone calls out COAG and the dysfunctional Australian Federation the better.

    SloMo could make a start by getting the Feds out of Tasmania and giving them the option of using their natural resources – trees and rain to generate income instead of locking it up in UN wilderness areas. And stop funding them to lock areas away to the same end.

  113. mh

    Two Aussies won grand slams after becoming mothers.

    1. Evonne Goolagong
    She had won 5 singles titles before she gave birth to her first child in 1977. However, she made a comeback just 7 months after giving birth and won the Australian Open title.She also went on to win Wimbledon in 1980. By doing so, she remains the only woman to have won Wimbledon in the Open Era after giving birth.

    2. Margaret Court
    Court won 21 Slams before giving birth to her first child in 1971. After returning to the sport, she won the Australian Open, French Open, and US Open in 1973, before giving birth to her second child in 1974.

    https://m.sportskeeda.com/tennis/tennis-players-women-who-won-grand-slams-titles-after-becoming-a-mother/3

  114. It continues to be hilarious how little time you lot devote to showing Trump is innocent. Your only move is to accuse the cops of procedural errors. These are not the tactics of a wronged victim.

    No one aside from Dem zombies and the gullible believe that Trump colluded with the Russians. We are focussed presently on the FISA warrant because they are evidence of Trump being fitted up. We have a chain of evidence now of leading from Dem officials through Fusion GPS to Steele who fabricated a story that was fed to the FBI and used to obtain a warrant to spy on the Republican challenger for President. BTW, it isn’t a mere procedural error to use a fabricated story to obtain a warrant. That would be like saying a detective using force during an interview was nothing more than a procedural error.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Reports that the trigger happy cop in Dallas had earlier made a noise comping about her neighbour.

    She murdered him.

    Give her the chair.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2814776, posted on September 12, 2018 at 9:16 am

    Reports that the trigger happy cop in Dallas had earlier made a noise comping about her neighbour.

    She murdered him.

    Told youse.
    Phil Collins turned up to 11.

  117. H B Bear

    Told youse.
    Phil Collins turned up to 11.

    So he is an accessory? Fry him too.

  118. mh

    Tom
    #2814717, posted on September 12, 2018 at 5:34 am
    Lisa Benson

    Like

  119. Des Deskperson

    ‘An Age opinion writer opines that Knight’s cartoon was racist, saying “The trouble is that Knight has gone out of his way to depict her not as a champion athlete but as wild and barbaric; full-lipped, ugly and ape-like.”’

    And yet Fairfax/Nine continues to employ a columnist who referred to group of Africans as ‘Gorillas’.

  120. John Comnenus

    I see George Papadopolous claims Downer was sent to reach out to him by an agency. Was Australia involved in the FBI’s effort to spy on the Trump Campaign? or was our top diplomat in the UK also working independently for a foreign power? If not, who in the Turnbull government approved Downer to work directly for a foreign power? Bishop? Turnbull or both? We need this investigated.

  121. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    Sep 29, 2014
    Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

  122. struth

    An Age opinion writer opines that Knight’s cartoon was racist, saying “The trouble is that Knight has gone out of his way to depict her not as a champion athlete but as wild and barbaric; full-lipped, ugly and ape-like.”’

    The age opinion writer sees depicting negro people as depicting ape like, barbaric, and ugly people.
    Racism here, is in the eye of the beholder.

  123. thefrollickingmole

    She had begged to be hos­pitalised as she was dying from septicemia in a Pilbara lock-up.

    Missing the
    “and was taken to hospital 2 times where the medical staff failed to diagnose/treat her condition..

  124. Roger

    An Age opinion writer opines that Knight’s cartoon was racist, saying “The trouble is that Knight has gone out of his way to depict her not as a champion athlete but as wild and barbaric; full-lipped, ugly and ape-like.”’

    Exaggerated caricature is Knight’s style. He’s even drawn certain white women and, er…Wayne Swan with full lips, exaggerating their natural features. Those intent on seeing racist tropes here have some self-examination to do…if they are capable of it.

  125. calli

    An Age opinion writer opines that Knight’s cartoon was racist, saying “The trouble is that Knight has gone out of his way to depict her not as a champion athlete but as wild and barbaric; full-lipped, ugly and ape-like.”’

    Williams’ outburst was wild and barbaric. She is full-lipped (lucky girl, no need for fillers) and some cruel people might call her ugly. Her behaviour certainly was.

    Ape-like? That’s through the skewed lens of the opinionista. Toddler-like is more like it.

  126. lotocoti

    to depict her not as a champion athlete

    Perhaps because she wasn’t behaving like a champion athlete.
    Meanwhile, back in ’83.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    lotocoti

    Nice toon, I love the way everyone watching is smiling in approval.

  128. H B Bear

    Newscorpse continues to try to kill off Blot and Blair’s blogs with the help of their MySpace era IT department. Blair is still worth a read, Blot just phoning it in now.

    So, what might a Shorten Labor government look like? Not great, basically. Shorten doesn’t have much frontline talent to work with. Presently his team is so utterly weak that appointing Kristina Keneally to the front bench might actually strengthen it.

    Imagine a building so fundamentally flimsy it could be reinforced with pasta. The former NSW premier is potentially a load-bearing noodle.

  129. Zyconoclast

    Full lipped?

    NSFW
    Eddies Murphy on white people with big ass lips.

    https://youtu.be/3piZIviVrVg

  130. Gary

    I don’t no monty so I cant be sure if its an online persona to gain attention or a real incite into the very dark thinking. The dismissal as just ‘procedural errors’ by some gets turned around as proof of collusion. This lack of want of equality under the law I don’t find hilarious. As well as the joy he gets out of people using violence.

  131. Ellen of Tasmania

    SloMo could make a start by getting the Feds out of Tasmania and giving them the option of using their natural resources – trees and rain to generate income instead of locking it up in UN wilderness areas. And stop funding them to lock areas away to the same end.

    Amen.

    The idea of fighting for a ‘fair share’ of the GST is beyond stupid. If we’d built that extra dam back in the 80’s and a couple more besides, we’d be romping it in. Honestly – how many of the howlers and screamers ever visit or even think about those ‘pristine’ areas? They only break their hearts when they’re told to.

  132. Dover Beach:

    Anne is either a piss-take or well poisoner. Not mutually exclusive.

    Annie is one of the best pisstakers I have seen. Truly an artist is amongst us.

  133. C.L.

    He really did ask for this:

    The Supreme Court awards the Wagner family $3.75 million in damages after finding broadcaster Alan Jones, 2GB and 4BC defamed them in a series of radio broadcasts between 2014 and 2015.

    ABC.

  134. Roger

    Honestly – how many of the howlers and screamers ever visit or even think about those ‘pristine’ areas?

    They sure do get upset about all that brown coal that’s been dug up and burned in Victoria to supply Tasmania’s electricity shortfall since, though.

  135. H B Bear

    The Parrot reamed. A great day, even if he might enjoy it.

  136. Atoms for Peace

    Another reason to like Toowoomba

  137. C.L.

    Left-wing university psychologist brainwashes daughter to hate the national anthem:

    National anthem protest: 9yo refuses to stand because anthem is for ‘white people of Australia’.

    Today’s fake outrage ‘story’. (There is now at least one manufactured each day).

    Teachers at a Brisbane primary school have disciplined a nine-year-old girl for refusing to stand for the national anthem during assembly.

    Kenmore South State School student Harper Nielsen was given a lunch time detention on Friday for peacefully protesting against the song she said is “wrong”.

    “When it says ‘we are young’ it completely disregards the Indigenous Australians who were here before us for over 50,000 years,” she said.

    “When it was originally written, Advance Australia Fair meant advance the white people of Australia.”

    Gee, I wonder how this little poppet came up with all of that …

    Her father Mark Nielsen, who is an Associate Professor at the School of Psychology at the University of Queensland, said he completely supported his daughter and her views.

    “She’s shown incredible bravery in wanting to stick to what she believes in and make a stance for something she believes right and I couldn’t be more proud of her for wanting to do this,” he said…

    “One of the things she was really hoping to do with this is to raise awareness and get people thinking about institutionalised racism and how that looks and how that might feel to people who these kinds of things affect,” he said.

    Uh-huh.

  138. Snoopy

    The Wagners’ win over Alan Jones is going to create serious cognitive dissonance in Lefties. Hitherto the left has held the Wagners on par with Adani.

  139. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Missing the
    “and was taken to hospital 2 times where the medical staff failed to diagnose/treat her condition..

    Missing the “septicemia resulting from injuries inflicted when her partner bashed her.” Far easier to blame the police, isn’t it?

  140. Roger

    He really did ask for this…

    Indeed, he did; as a local he should have been familiar with the topography and the absurdity of suggesting the quarry wall exacerbated the flooding. But then he doubled down with accusations of corrupt dealings in obtaining the approvals for the Wellcamp airport.

  141. .

    The fair share of the GST is how much is raised in your state. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Ditto for all other taxes.

  142. .

    Roger
    #2814813, posted on September 12, 2018 at 10:26 am

    He really did ask for this…

    Indeed, he did; as a local he should have been familiar with the topography and the absurdity of suggesting the quarry wall exacerbated the flooding. But then he doubled down with accusations of corrupt dealings in obtaining the approvals for the Wellcamp airport.

    I think he really lost the plot when he interviewed the chick who was talking about black helicopters.

  143. Infidel Tiger

    Great to see Alan Jones getting his whack.

    It’s time green extremists were all sent broke.

  144. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #2814776, posted on September 12, 2018 at 9:16 am

    Reports that the trigger happy cop in Dallas had earlier made a noise comping about her neighbour.

    She murdered him.

    Give her the chair.

    A statement that should be posed as a question to our fantastic Sex Discrimination Commish.

  145. C.L.

    I listened to a few of the Wagner rants from Jones.
    As far as I can make out, his father was some sort of half-arsed dairy farmer who ended up failing – then had to work ‘up to his hips in sludge’ (words to that effect) to make ends meet.
    This is the psychological background to his loathing for coal companies, obsession with Lock da Gate and his hatred of the wealthy Wagners.
    Jones must have known he was defaming them and would be convicted. He seems to have decided the vendetta was worth a couple of mill.

  146. Zyconoclast

    Poor young Harper Nielsen. Soon to become Harpie Nielson.

    Her mother is an Associate Prof in Public Health at QUT

  147. Ellen of Tasmania

    From a Tom Woods email:

    The Jordan Peterson phenomenon continues — and everywhere he goes, he makes complete fools of the little savages who try to disrupt his presentation.

    I just saw footage from a Peterson event at Queen’s University in Ontario, Canada, earlier this year, where the usual antics went on (students yelling, students holding a sign on stage opposing “bigotry,” etc.) before the protesters finally had to leave.

    I must say, it amazes me that Peterson should be controversial at all, since up until quite recently what he’s saying would have been considered simple common sense by pretty much everyone.

    As one shouting protester was escorted out, Peterson told the audience matter-of-factly: “That’s pure narcissism at work, by the way.”

    The crowd roared. No one could distinctly hear what any of the protesters were saying. All they could hear clearly was, “That’s pure narcissism at work, by the way.”

    And everyone cheered.

    The protesters were helpless. They were being mocked, and there was nothing they could do.

    “To hijack an event like this,” Peterson continued, “that other people put time and effort into and to use the civility of the crowd and the civility of the organizers as an excuse to blatantly yell out your ill-informed opinions is no way to conduct a civil dialogue. It’s absolutely appalling. The people who do that should be embarrassed.”

    Huge cheers. …

    A little later, the savages outside started pounding on the doors and windows. One shouted, “Lock them in and burn it down!”

    Another woman, who broke a stained-glass window, was found to be carrying a garrotte.

    “These people are not your friends,” says Peterson to the crowd, calmly.

    Huge cheer.

    Referring to the pounding, he said: “That — and mark my words — that’s the sound of the barbarians pounding at the gates.”

  148. Snoopy

    Poor young Harper Nielsen. Soon to become Harpie Nielson.

    Her mother is an Associate Prof in Public Health at QUT

    Seems like mum and dad have ambitions of a political career for our Harpie.

  149. struth

    We seem to find it too had to create the necessary competition between the states, regarding taxes.
    Is getting the GST earned in your state too hard to actually achieve?
    Wouldn’t it be a nightmare to work out what was earned where?

    Actually, all I can see is pure benefit.
    There would have to be serious competition to get national earning companies to base in your state.

  150. C.L.

    Remember that scene in Hunt For Red October where Sam Neil’s first officer – speaking to Captain Marko Ramius (Sean Connery) – fantasises about what he wants most when they defect to America? A recreational vehicle, a big-hipped woman who will cook for him and the freedom to travel throughout the country.

    “You can do that?”
    Yes, Ramius assures him.
    “No papers?”
    “No papers. State to state.”

    Breaking news:

    Travellers flying interstate will be forced to show their passport at domestic airports in major security crackdown.

    Millions of passengers flying on domestic airlines in Australia will be asked to show proof of identification in a massive crackdown on airport security.

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton is set to introduce new legislation in Parliament on Wednesday afternoon, which will see travellers forced to show a driver’s licence or passport when asked.

    The proposed changes come after law-enforcement agencies raised concerns that airports still face huge security risks.

    ‘We have to be realistic about the threat and it’s ridiculous police officers don’t have this ability already,’ Mr Dutton told The Courier Mail.

  151. .

    I must say, it amazes me that Peterson should be controversial at all, since up until quite recently what he’s saying would have been considered simple common sense by pretty much everyone.

    This is why I was not impressed with him, to begin with, but now I simply like him on a personal level.

  152. .

    ‘We have to be realistic about the threat and it’s ridiculous police officers don’t have this ability already,’ Mr Dutton told The Courier Mail.

    I have observed that ex-coppers can be a tad authoritarian if they are pub owners, teachers or enter Parliament.

  153. Infidel Tiger

    If you haven’t doesn’t so, listen to the Peterson and John Anderson conversation.

    So much commonsense.

    If only our parliament had more men like Anderson these days.

  154. Confused Old Misfit

    The distribution or re-distribution of the GST, ostensibly to provide a country wide provision of standard government services, is a shining example stupidity.
    A good illustration of the futility of making policy to create equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity.
    The unexpected consequences were South Australia and Tasmania. Both having discovered that they could play social engineering games and con the rest of Australia (RoA) into picking up the tab.

  155. struth

    She’s shown incredible bravery in wanting to stick to what she believes in and make a stance for something she believes right and I couldn’t be more proud of her for wanting to do this,” he said…

    She’s nine, you fucking left wing shit head.
    She is parroting you.

    These people must be pulled kicking and screaming from their taxpayer funded viper’s nest in the education system.
    It all starts in our schools.
    Did you know that there are teachers now who have become SJ officers in education departments as well?
    Yes, it really is paid employment.
    WE AE PAYING MARXIST FILTH TO BAINWASH OU KIDS.

    Just like this foul excuse for a parent is doing to his own.
    They are abusing our children.
    Where are the parents?

  156. C.L.

    Anderson was really the last of the class acts in the LNP.
    I’m sure he’s an agrarian socialist like most Nats but he was a man, no doubt. Solid.
    From that to … Barnaby Joyce – who is a total lunatic.

  157. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear
    #2814792, posted on September 12, 2018 at 9:50 am
    Newscorpse continues to try to kill off Blot and Blair’s blogs with the help of their MySpace era IT department. Blair is still worth a read, Blot just phoning it in now.

    Blot is ghost-written by Peter of Bellevue Hill.

  158. US federal deficit up 32 per cent, spending up seven per cent, corporate tax revenue down 30 per cent. Lafferist tax cuts are a complete and utter failure. Pro cyclical pump priming to juke the stats for the mid terms, but Trump’s numbers are still in the toilet. What a Dubbya-style disaster.

    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/406040-federal-deficit-soars-32-percent-to-895b

  159. .

    struth

    That or everyone just gets an equal per capita amount, or a combination thereof.

    Wanting anymore complication is just clanging the begging bowl.

    A 50/50 split like the second/third suggestion is, in fact, generous to mendicant states.

    The only further sophistication would be to account for seasonality or non-seasonality of revenue collection, so that WA, for example, could expect a smoothing of expected distributions.

    That’s it! No more, and no begging from the consumers/vendors in other States.

  160. C.L.

    Where’s national anthem girl’s mum?
    Is she on the scene?
    Because this looks like a huge case of Daddy’s Little Girl.
    A mother might want her daughter to enjoy being a little girl for a few more precious years.
    But not dad. He wants a daughter-wife mini-me.
    I’ve seen this before.

  161. H B Bear

    If only our parliament had more men like Anderson these days.

    Only a decade ago. Feels like a lifetime.

  162. .

    You missed this part, montel:

    The nonpartisan CBO reported that the central drivers of the increasing deficit were the Republican tax law and the bipartisan agreement to increase spending. As a result, revenue only rose 1 percent, failing to keep up with a 7 percent surge in spending, it added.

    They could have cut spending by 10-15% and started to attack the debt. Congress makes the laws, the solution is to make most of the Congresscritters unemployed.

  163. C.L.

    I see a Democrat loyalist has followed crack ho Maxine Water’s instructions and tried to stab a Republican candidate to death.

  164. stackja

    C.L.
    #2814824, posted on September 12, 2018 at 10:41 am

    All must face this, so no claims of discrimination. Blame ALP/Greens.

  165. C.L.

    If you haven’t doesn’t so, listen to the Peterson and John Anderson conversation.

    Linko?

  166. We are focussed presently on the FISA warrant because they are evidence of Trump being fitted up.

    The entrapment argument only works if he did the crime. You are conceding that he is guilty already, you are trying to get him off on a technicality.

    We have come a long way from your nothingburger talking points. By the time this is through you will be calling on Pope Julie to beatify him as a martyr.

  167. struth

    I admit I haven’t thought it though enough, but at least if the GST was distributed based on state earnings, the incentive would immediately develop where business would need to be set up and based in your state.
    It is easy for the ATO to do, as the know where the businesses are based.
    We’d see our power problems solved overnight.
    I just can’t see a problem.

  168. .

    FFS, can it.

    No one is going to gaol because of FISA, Republican or Democrat.

    monty you twit, if you are entrapped, you have not committed a crime.

    This is like calling someone who kills in self-defence a murderer because they “have taken a life”.

    They are defences to an indictment, not an admission of guilt and pardon at the time of sentencing.

  169. BTW it’s easy to get four per cent GDP growth if you blow out the deficit to increase G. I remember back when you lot would have screamed blue murder about that. Hmm, when was it… oh yes, when the Right wasn’t in power. Tea Party LOL.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “No papers. State to state.”

    South China Flying School relocated to the wheatbelt town where I used to live. One of the students from their first intake walked into the local police station, and asked permission to catch the train to Perth for the weekend…

  171. struth

    Through…got a eal problem with my R button

  172. Confused Old Misfit

    Why not let each state collect and retain its own GST. If they want more revenue then they have to govern with policies that allow more wealth creation.

  173. monty you twit, if you are entrapped, you have not committed a crime.

    “Okay so I colluded with Putin to swing the election, but I was totally conned into it because my phones were tapped, even though I didn’t know that at the time!”

    Yeah nah Dot, that is not going to fly.

  174. Snoopy

    Attempted entrapment. You idiot, Monty.

  175. struth

    Why not let each state collect and retain its own GST. If they want more revenue then they have to govern with policies that allow more wealth creation.

    Absolutely agree, but that has buckley’s of being agreed to.
    Actually, all of it has buckley’s under our current limp dick UN whores.

  176. C.L.

    Thanks, IT.
    I’ve also found his series, Conversations with John Anderson.
    Great stuff.
    Make a come-back, John. The country needs … heck, just somebody normal, frankly.

  177. .

    m0nty
    #2814848, posted on September 12, 2018 at 10:58 am

    BTW it’s easy to get four per cent GDP growth if you blow out the deficit to increase G. I remember back when you lot would have screamed blue murder about that. Hmm, when was it… oh yes, when the Right wasn’t in power. Tea Party LOL.

    Like you keep on omitting but was noted in the report by The Hill, it was a bipartisan measure and spending blew out by 7%, revenue only dropped by 1%.

    You are very smart monty and have libertarian tendencies but choose to be dishonest and champion the left.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Poor young Harper Nielsen. Soon to become Harpie Nielson.

    I’m wondering if she’s ever been spat on, and called a “white slut.”

  179. .

    “Okay so I colluded with Putin to swing the election, but I was totally conned into it because my phones were tapped, even though I didn’t know that at the time!”

    You’re prevaricating monty. You said before he was entrapped and now you are implying he is not.

    I put it to you that you are lying.

  180. JC

    10.30ish and the textorializing commences. You can set the watch by it. Lets see where this ends up.

  181. Snoopy

    No one. Not one person has been charged with anything resembling collusion with Russia.

  182. Even if the FISA warrant was illegal – which it wasn’t – that doesn’t excuse Trump committing any crime. You are arguing about admissibility of evidence, not guilt. None of your talking points involve an assumption that Trump is innocent. You are assuming he is guilty, and trying to work the judge on technicalities.

  183. .

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2814852, posted on September 12, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Why not let each state collect and retain its own GST. If they want more revenue then they have to govern with policies that allow more wealth creation.

    That’s basically what should happen, with the Commonwealth acting as the collection agency, they give it to each Office of State Revenue “immediately”.

    We’d need a constitutional amendment otherwise.

  184. C.L.

    Is Mark Wahlberg taking the piss or is this daily exercise regimen real?
    —–
    Typical daily schedule.
    —–
    From this report: Mark Wahlberg, 47, shares insane daily schedule.

  185. Confused Old Misfit

    struth
    #2814857, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:02 am

    I’m afraid you are absolutely right.
    What a pity though. If you and I were in charge there’d be none of these problems bedeviling the country.

  186. Top Ender

    NSW Police have revealed a new forensic search is being done at the former home of missing woman Lyn Dawson, in the Sydney suburb of Bayview.

    There has been no trace of the missing mother of two for 36 years.

    Police issued a statement this morning revealing they would start a “forensic search” of the property on Wednesday.

    Oz link

  187. JC

    SUSPECT TRIES STABBING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WITH SWITCHBLADE…
    CAMPAIGN SIGN USED TO FEND OFF…
    COPS: CURSED PRESIDENT BEFORE VIOLENCE…
    Seems like a regular day in the life of the American left. Headlines on Drudge.

    MASS SHOOTING TWEET THREATENS TRUMP HOTEL MAGA EVENT…
    Secret Service probe of actress calling for assassination…
    WYOMING GOP OFFICE SET ON FIRE…
    Conservative Columnist Goes Into Hiding After Rape, Death Threats…
    SCALISE WARNS: LEFT INCITING…

  188. Des Deskperson

    ‘Poor young Harper Nielsen. Soon to become Harpie Nielson.

    Her mother is an Associate Prof in Public Health at QUT’

    Ironically, the Brisbane suburb of Kenmore – where the Neilson’s presumably live – appears to be inner city whitey privilege central. Wikipedia describes it as ‘a leafy suburb with a high number of professional residents and families’.

    From the ABS, in 2016, the most common ancestries were English, Australian, Irish, Scottish and German. 81.5 % spoke English at home, compared to 72.2% Australia wide. The median household weekly income was $2,046, compared to $1,734 for Australia as a whole. 38.5% of residents were described as ‘professionals’ (22.2% Australia wide) and 6.1% worked in ‘higher education’ (1.5 Australia -wide)”.

    Indigenous Australians make up only 0.4% of the population (Australian wide, 2.8%)

  189. C.L.

    No one. Not one person has been charged with anything resembling collusion with Russia.

    Yeah but George Popadopadopadopadopalus got 14 days for public urination.

  190. Like you keep on omitting but was noted in the report by The Hill, it was a bipartisan measure and spending blew out by 7%, revenue only dropped by 1%.

    You are very smart monty and have libertarian tendencies but choose to be dishonest and champion the left.

    The key stat is corporate tax revenue down by 30 per cent. Art Laffer is a con artist. His curve exists, but it’s shape is nowhere near what he thinks it is. The economy is overheating but tax takings are plummeting. Poof goes all your talking points about fiscal rectitude.

  191. .

    You are arguing about admissibility of evidence, not guilt

    No.

    Entrapment is a defence. See Ridgeway v The Queen (1995) 184 CLR 19 (AU) and in America, there are subjective (Cali, liberal moonbeams) and objective standards (Fla. law and order obsessives) of inducement beyond the civil standard of proof.

    In the US, the defendant relies on the evidence to prove entrapment and establish their defence.

    Go to law school monty. You can’t google this stuff.

  192. JC

    The key stat is corporate tax revenue down by 30 per cent.

    Great isn’t it. Now all he needs to do is cut spending for two reasons.

    1. It will be great for the economy and,
    2. it will send the Left absolutely apeshit.

  193. .

    The key stat is corporate tax revenue down by 30 per cent. Art Laffer is a con artist. His curve exists, but it’s shape is nowhere near what he thinks it is. The economy is overheating but tax takings are plummeting. Poof goes all your talking points about fiscal rectitude.

    Revenue overall is down 1% overall. Spending, A BIPARTISAN INITIATIVE, grew by 7%.

    If the economy is overheating, then Art Laffer cannot be wrong; conversely you’ve noted pro-cyclical policy but refuse to note the driver which is SEVEN TIMES LARGER.

    You are flailing very badly monty in some rough surf and foam.

  194. Confused Old Misfit

    JC
    #2814870, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Kates is on it. See his new post.

  195. bundyrum

    Out on the piss with an old mate last friday in Brisbane….process engineer….he reckons Victoriastan is going to build a gas plant to receive gas from Gladstone?
    A bit of hypocrisy if this is true.
    Anyone else know about this?

  196. JC

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2814878, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:13 am

    JC
    #2814870, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Kates is on it. See his new post.

    Thanks, didn’t see it.

    It’s unreal.

  197. .

    They might just be arbitraging off Tasmanian gas prices. In theory, it can be used later on for offshore wells.

    Like a dam, it is a better idea than shutting down a coal-fired plant or setting up large-scale solar, even if it is motivated by hypocrisy.

  198. John Constantine

    Their yarragrad Nazgul have indeed indicated they intend to solve the looming east coast gas crisis, not by reversing their ban on drilling for gas on Victorian soil, but by building a gas import terminal to buy gas from other places.

    Comrades.

  199. C.L.

    You are flailing very badly monty in some rough surf and foam.

    Fear not.
    Chappo has spotted him in the rip and has radioed Yatesy to get out there on a board.
    Yatesy says he has to rescue an Asian first.
    Chappo takes another look through the binoks and calls in the chopper.

  200. Dr Faustus

    US savages ‘Australia’s ignorance’ after controversial Serena Williams cartoon

    AMERICA has responded with shock and disgust over a cartoon depiction of tennis star Serena Williams which has been labelled “racist” and “sexist”.

    The New York Times wrote that the cartoon reflected a “wider pattern” of ignorance from Australians around race issues, saying the conversations in Australia were not as “robust and layered” as in the US.

    Perhaps not all of America.

    If and when 97% of the US have ‘robust and layered’ conversations about Australia they think it is the kangaroo-filled republic situated somewhere to the east of Germany and just south of Russia.

  201. C.L.

    Out on the piss with an old mate last friday in Brisbane….process engineer….he reckons Victoriastan is going to build a gas plant to receive gas from Gladstone?
    A bit of hypocrisy if this is true.
    Anyone else know about this?

    Dunno but I love the idea of it.
    It will mean Queensland can Putin the supply whenever Victoria annoys us.

  202. Confused Old Misfit

    JC
    #2814881, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:15 am
    “…..It’s unreal.”

    And getting to be a tad worrisome. I’m glad I do not live there.
    There was an opportunity once way back when. You know, one of those times when you look back and wonder what your life would have been like if you had taken THAT path.

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    Even if the FISA warrant was illegal

    LOL.

    Peter Strzok, Lisa Page conspired to leak anti-Trump stories to mainstream media

    “Our review of these new documents raises grave concerns regarding an apparent systemic culture of media leaking by high-ranking officials at FBI and DOJ,” Mr. Meadows said. “Review of these new documents suggest a coordinated effort on the part of the FBI and DOJ to release information in the public domain potentially harmful to President Donald Trump’s administration.”

    And then this from a couple weeks ago:

    FBI leaked information to the media, then used the leaks to get FISA warrants

    During a closed-door interview with the House Judiciary and House Oversight Committees on Friday, Special Agent Jonathan Moffa told congressional investigators that the FBI and Justice Department have leaked stories to the press and then used them to obtain warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

    That’s some breathtaking circle jerking. As a way to justify bugging their political opposition they’ve been briefing the MSM then using the resulting articles as the “evidence” to present to the FISA court. Utterly dirty.

    And now Obama has been shown to be in on the whole stinking thing:

    Huge! Joe DiGenova: Yates, Rice, Biden, Comey and Obama Met in White House to Discuss Targeting Mike Flynn

    DiGenova dropped this bomb during the interview. During the infamous January 5, 2017 White House meeting Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Joe Biden, James Comey and Barack Obama discussed how they would target General Michael Flynn.

    Mr Obama better lawyer up pronto. Being the first President to be executed for treason would ruin his whole day.

  204. John Constantine

    Showing your papers will soon enough only be for those that facial recognition artificial intelligence cannot pick up from their database.

    Comrades.

  205. Confused Old Misfit:

    Why not let each state collect and retain its own GST. If they want more revenue then they have to govern with policies that allow more wealth creation.

    The system is so stuffed up that it is beyond repair.
    All the systems. Every one of them.
    Education is stuffed.
    Defence is stuffed.
    Taxation is stuffed.
    The utilities grids are stuffed.
    Tear the bloody lot down and hang the political class from the power poles.

  206. H B Bear

    Victoriastan is now an echo of Kenyan-era America. Remember when California was going to built an offshore LPG receiving plant BD*?

    *Before The Donald

  207. Diogenes

    The entrapment argument only works if he did the crime. You are conceding that he is guilty already, you are trying to get him off on a technicality.

    Let me see, some “random” russian chick held a meeting, offered dirt , and FISA warrant just “happened” to be in place to catch team Don talking about it, or talking to others about proffered dirt . That would have been entrapment.

    That said, even before the election there was talk in the European press, that the Russians would try to deligitimise the results no matter who won. They have exceeded beyond their wildest dreams as the whole process has now become self sustaining (ie TDS)

  208. bundyrum

    Hey scooby, lots here asking about your pad in NY….are you krudd & trumble doing your own version of open border loons Airbnb?
    Asking for a friend.

  209. C.L.

    A delightful story for bird lovers …
    A good kid and his maggie mate …

    Magpie swooping a playful game of cat and mouse between boy and feathered friend.

    Lots of pics.

  210. Confused Old Misfit

    The system is so stuffed up that it is beyond repair.

    The inevitable result of policies attempting to create an equality of outcome.
    When you give someone an advantage for nothing they will naturally want more of the same.

  211. .

    Mr Obama better lawyer up pronto. Being the first President to be executed for treason would ruin his whole day.

    I would say malicious prosecution or abuse of process.

    Even prosecutorial misconduct hardly ever gets tried or punished accordingly.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/jail-time-may-be-the-least-of-ken-andersons-problems/

    Ken Anderson agreed to give up his law license and serve ten days in jail for hiding favourable evidence to secure Morton’s 1987 conviction for a murder he did not commit.

    The idea that Obama is going to gaol or getting ole’ squirty for this is a bit of teasing of monty, that’s all.

  212. struth

    I’m afraid you are absolutely right.
    What a pity though. If you and I were in charge there’d be none of these problems bedeviling the country.

    Exact-a-mundo

  213. Dr Faustus

    Out on the piss with an old mate last friday in Brisbane….process engineer….he reckons Victoriastan is going to build a gas plant to receive gas from Gladstone?

    When last seen, that was an AGL/Andy Vesey project.

    Higher cost domestic gas producers would be thrilled to have a LNG-parity + storage/re-gassification premium baked into their pricing.

  214. John Constantine:

    Showing your papers will soon enough only be for those that facial recognition artificial intelligence cannot pick up from their database.

    Can’t wait for the push to have internal passports for each state when driving. After all, the same reasons apply.

  215. bundyrum

    Hey CL…..maybe the gas ships are built as submarines by the frogs….courtesy of the female Pyne in SA?

  216. duncanm

    Is Mark Wahlberg taking the piss or is this daily exercise regimen real?

    given the way he’s built – and the fact he’s almost 50, I’d say the exercise is real.

  217. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1054

    The entrapment argument only works if he did the crime.

    The ever loyal reactionary lackey of the fascist left Deep State attempts to obfuscate the issue.

    It is not an entrapment argument, it is a frame up argument.

    Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Whiskey India Tango.

  218. .

    Tear the bloody lot down and hang the political class from the power poles.

    Jesus Christ, be careful what you say:

    Woman investigated for sedition because she said political things about politicians and bureaucrats:

    https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-new-mexico-defends-va-employee-accused-sedition-over-criticism-bush-administration?redirect=cpredirect/24043

    Our law is pretty severe:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_sedition_law

    Remember The King against Sharkey (R v Sharkey (1949) 79 CLR 121). All he said was that if the Commies invaded, Australian workers would welcome them as liberators.

  219. Bruce of Newcastle

    The idea that Obama is going to gaol or getting ole’ squirty for this is a bit of teasing of monty, that’s all.

    Sprung!

    Nevertheless Dot, in another age not so long ago Obama would be tried, convicted and hung by his neck until dead. These days he might get a few years in the Fed Pen and a free sex change operation.

  220. bundyrum

    Fuck off dot….the political class are employed by the people…you wanker.

  221. stackja

    Rafe posted:
    Will the big lout at the back put the stock market report away. Do your trading at playtime.

  222. Senile Old Guy

    I admit I haven’t thought it though enough, but at least if the GST was distributed based on state earnings, the incentive would immediately develop where business would need to be set up and based in your state.

    Cannot possibly work at present because the Federal Government meddles too much in state/territory affairs, routinely banning, or severely limiting development. This is on land and off shore. Just think Adani.

  223. Top Ender

    And in other schools….

    …one Queensland mother has had her son sent home seven times — including once in prep — and he is only in Year Two.

    Figures have revealed the number of Queensland Prep students suspended or expelled has almost doubled in four years, with experts and parents warning the problem of schoolyard bullying was exploding among the state’s youngest students.

    Sunshine Coast mother Natarsha Gardner said her seven-year-old son, who the ABC has chosen not to name, had a “temper issue”, but was not convinced he was a bully.

    “He fights I suppose — he punches,” she said.

    “I believe it’s a temper issue, or when something doesn’t go his way, he’ll lash out, I suppose.

    “Mostly he’ll get suspended for using violence — which I’m fine with because that is wrong.”

  224. C.L.

    “I believe it’s a temper issue, or when something doesn’t go his way, he’ll lash out, I suppose.

    “Mostly he’ll get suspended for using violence — which I’m fine with because that is wrong.”

    And the obvious $64 question: where’s dad?

  225. .

    bundyrum
    #2814911, posted on September 12, 2018 at 11:49 am

    Fuck off dot….the political class are employed by the people…you wanker.

    In theory. The state does not give a shit about your rights.

  226. pete m

    Alan Jones horribly defames the Wagners and they scored a big win today. Nothing will repair what he did to them – basically accusing them of causing the flood to kill 12 people.

    He goes overboard with paper thin accusations at times.

    I guess it sells media.

  227. Roger

    Tennis umpires threatening to boycott matches involving Serena Williams.

    Seems they are none too happy that US tennis officials backed her claims of systematic sexism among them.

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