Monday Forum: September 17, 2018

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    I read today that a $1 billion dollar rescue package for strawberry farmers had been pledged and just shook my head at how big this industry must be and how food terrorism will be the next evil we will have to deal with that changes everything.

    I see the figure has now been corrected to $1 million.

  2. Rae

    Serena.

    Did you find the answers to your 1.52 pm questions? About why Duttons s44 predicament is different from Phelps s44 non-predicament.

  3. .

    Why is Lee Lee Chin still on bloody YouTube ads for TNFSW if she can’t stand Australia?

  4. cohenite

    About why Duttons s44 predicament is different from Phelps s44 non-predicament.

    Dutton’s predicament is less than Phelps.

  5. P

    Further to the interview of Maz by Leigh Sales on the 7.30 Report –

    I think the allegation by Maz was the last straw for Barnaby and he then resigned from Cabinet.

    I think we all should be given some idea of what the harassment was.

    A couple of pics:
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  6. Tel

    I see the figure has now been corrected to $1 million.

    Most journalists would be unable to explain the difference between million, billions, trillions, and Brazilians.

  7. I think we all should be given some idea of what the harassment was.

    Thanks for that P.
    Lie confirmed.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    Or can our last few Treasurers.

  9. Most journalists would be unable to explain the difference between million, billions, trillions, and Brazilians.

    This statement includes “business journalists”

  10. mh

    Daily Beast writer wants ‘xenophobic’ country with low immigration & low crime to open its borders

    The writer is Jake Adelstein

  11. .

    The writer is Jake Adelstein

    What’s your point?

  12. mh

    Dot, I just thought it was interesting name.

  13. Mark A

    If Japan opens its borders and lets in all comers then it will be the final absolute proof, that nobody learns from history or others’ mistakes.

  14. .

    Found on Dr Shapiro’s husbands’ rants:

    Keeps getting better. Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey has a brother. Ralph Blasey. Her brother Ralph Blasey has connections to FUSION GPS (Uranium One) at the SAME TIME the Russian connection was going on. So now we have the accuser who signed a letter bashing President Trump on border security. Kavanaugh’s mother was overseeing the trial on a foreclosure case against the accusers parents. Debra Katz, the accusers attorney, thinks people who work for Trump are ‘Miscreants’. Debra Katz has a long history of dismissing sexual assault allegations against liberal politicians, donating to left-wing causes, and even publicly demonizing all Trump advisors as “miscreants” who are worse than deplorables. Since 2004, Katz has donated at least $26,000 to Democratic politicians including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Kerry. The accuser and a Carl Feinstein were colleagues at Stanford. Carl Feinstein is on record as a donor to Anna Eshoo. Anna Eshoo is a democrat U.S. Representative for CA’s 18, serving in Congress since 1993 and received the accusers letter from Feinstein. And now the brother of the accuser with Fusion GPS connections. Unredact the FISA memos and IG report and get this show on the road. OUR GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPTED. This is the Clarence Thomas hearings all over again except Anita Hill was at least an adult who falsely accused him. It soon came out that the Dems just didn’t want a Black on the Supreme Court. This current allegation was when the two people were juveniles. And if litigated would have been in Juvenile Court which would have been sealed once the accused was of age. Really stopping a confirmation of a man with a exemplary record due to some contrived smear by one person, a radical leftist lunatic working in the California academia who is vocal regarding her hatred for President Trump, really?? This is beyond disgusting. One person when there is a witness that denies this ever happened, And 65 females who have known Brett Kavanaugh for 35 years and state he is above reproach a man who treats females with dignity and respect.

  15. .

    Think about it!

    She told her therapist it was 4 guys now it’s 2 and she never identified who they were until this convenient time. 30+ years of justice delayed is justice denied for both accuser and accused. HER DUTY AS A CITIZEN MADE HER COME FORWARD? What kind of citizen let’s a sexual predator go uncharged for years? How many more victims resulted from such a decision? Didn’t care about potential victims. Didn’t care when he became a judge. Only cared when he was nominated by a republican to become a SCOTUS judge. Not buying it.

    So yeah, she told the therapist, now did she say 2 or 4 guys; but also BK wasn’t named.

  16. Rae

    The writer is Jake Adelstein

    What’s your point?

    Dot, I just thought it was interesting name.

    Not a Nihongo name. Joshua Lawrence Adelstein. Gaijin.

  17. Gab

    Not sure if anyone has posted it but their ABC has gone stark raving bonkers. The latest? They’re blaming older people living in their own homes as the reason house prices are too high.

    I guess their advocacy of euthanasia will take care of that then.

  18. Boambee John

    cohenite
    #2819293, posted on September 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm
    I don’t think T did stormy. But we’ll need an independent medical report

    As was also required with Bill Clinton.

  19. Makka

    Among those docs Trump has ordered declassified and released should show Rosenstein’s signature on the 4th and most important FISA application. Other docs will show crucial information withheld from the FISC thus implicating RR in the misleading or indeed lying to the FIS Court.

    If RR refuses Trump’s order, it is insubordination and he will be fired. If he releases the docs, it lays bare his part in the whole charade of Russia! , Mueller and misleading the FISC.

    RR is toast. If RR is toast, so is Mueller’s investigation. So is Russia!

    mUnty, RUOK?

  20. zyconoclast


    Not only the United States deported Mexicans.

    In Japan, Malaysia, Lebanon, Italy and Vietnam, there have been cases of minor nationals who migrated to these countries and, because they did not have the proper papers, they were sent back.
    From January 2001 to July 2018, there are 223,497 Mexicans who are minors deported. The United States has sent 223,132, according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (SRE), in response to requests for information made by El Universal.

    After the United States is El Salvador with 86 cases, Japan with 10, Italy with five, Malaysia with two and Lebanon and Vietnam with one.

    The data show that Tamaulipas is the entity of the Mexican Republic where the majority of deportees are from, with 21 thousand 564, followed by Michoacán with 17 thousand 29.

    In the administration of Felipe Calderón was when more deportations were registered, with 84 thousand 904; in the government of Vicente Fox there were 74 thousand 850, and in the administration of Enrique Peña Nieto, until last July, 63 thousand 743.

  21. cohenite

    I don’t think T did stormy. But we’ll need an independent medical report

    As was also required with Bill Clinton.

    The difference is, even if Trump did the skank, which I doubt, he didn’t r..e her. The accusations against slick willy, and god knows what his dick looks like, include a number of r..e allegations.

  22. Tel

    Or can our last few Treasurers.

    Fortunately for everyone, the journalists run the country and not the Treasurers.

    We still have some standards.

    On that note… who is the Treasurer? I lost track.

  23. Zyconoclast;

    “It’s good to have diversity. It’s good to have an open policy,” Kono said.

    Perhaps some extraordinary proof to substantiate this extraordinary claim would be good.
    Maybe Kono could point to just one country that Balkanisation hasn’t begun to destroy the host nation?

  24. zyconoclast

    Record numbers of babies were born to foreign mothers last year, official figures showed yesterday.

    A steadily growing share of births in England and Wales are to immigrant mothers.

    In 2017, 28.4 per cent of births were born to mothers from outside Britain, up from 28.2 per cent in 2016. In some parts of Britain it was as high as three children in four.

    It was the largest percentage since 1969, when information on parents’ country of birth was first collected when a new child was registered.

    Campaigners said the statistics were a striking illustration of the way mass migration is changing the face of the country – and placing additional pressure on public services, including hospitals, schools and housing.

    The proportion has risen every year since 1990, when the level was 11.6 per cent. This had grown to 19.5 per cent in 2004 – the year Tony Blair’s Labour government threw open the doors to migrants from Eastern Europe.

  25. Mark A

    Tel
    #2819403, posted on September 18, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    On that note… who is the Treasurer? I lost track.

    Is is that Belgian bloke?

  26. JC

    Makka
    #2819327, posted on September 18, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    Can anyone point me to the evidence where DJT admits he boned SD?

    JC is trying vewy hard but haven’t seen the evidence of that yet?

    Achmed forgot to make a left turn and ended up here today. He was heading for the Daily Stormer.

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    as figures show there are now more Romanians living in the UK than Irish

    Always been a haven for ‘travellers.’

  28. .

    Grigory used to purport to be a Newcastle solicitor, near retirement age and dying of cancer.

    Now there is this:

    Rae
    #2819405, posted on September 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    You reckoned you were a lawyer once?

    Can’t say that I ever did claim that, Dot. But, I am a Digital Native.

    Which means Rae reckons he was born in the late 1970s at the earliest unless he was babysat by a mainframe.

    Also a very young cancer victim!

  29. vr

    JC

    Is Don Jnr bonking a bloke, but it sure looks like it.

    That’s Gavin Newsom’s ex.

  30. JC

    Dot

    Gools recently claimed he has a brain tumor. With this sort of stuff I like to take people at their word. If it’s not true then .. what can one say.

  31. mh

    JC, if that’s a bloke then what the hell is Barry Obama shagging?

  32. JC

    That’s Gavin Newsom’s ex.

    Oh okay. Who’s Gavin Newson and why was he bonking a man too?

  33. .

    Well JC I don’t know how you can be 67 and 38 at the same time.

    Maybe this is why he sympathises with the Kavanaugh accuser.

  34. JC

    JC, if that’s a bloke then what the hell is Barry Obama shagging?

    A very big bloke too.

  35. zyconoclast

    ICE is ordering immigrants to appear in court, but the judges aren’t expecting them

    Santos Monroy, Raymundo Olmedo and more than a dozen other immigrants reported for Dallas court hearings on their deportation cases Thursday only to be turned away.

    They’d been ordered to be in court by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But their official notices to appear on Sept. 13 were greeted by court staffers who matter-of-factly called them “fake dates.”

    Their names weren’t on judges’ dockets. “We’ve got fake dates,” said one security guard as about two dozen immigrants clustered near a court filing window.

    The orders to appear are not fake, but ICE apparently never coordinated or cleared the dates with the immigration courts. It’s a phenomenon that appears to be popping up around the nation, with reports of “fake dates” or “dummy dates” in Dallas, Los Angeles, San Diego, Chicago, Atlanta and Miami.

    Some immigrants have even been given documents ordering them to be in court at midnight, on weekends and on a date that doesn’t exist: Sept. 31.

  36. vr

    JC — Former San Francisco mayor who is the DEM’s candidate for CA governor to replace Jerry Brown.

  37. Makka

    cohenite
    #2819293, posted on September 18, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    I don’t think T did stormy.

    JC: He admitted it, you nimbus.

    Your quote Coward. You were dead wrong , caught making shit up again. You then tried to insult, abuse and generally fatmouth your way out of it. So obvious and still, no evidence. As usual.

  38. cohenite

    Head prefect: are you Malcolm Turnbull; or his son. Serious question.

  39. Rae

    Dot. You’re being even more weird than usual tonight. RUOK? The Labrador didn’t bite you did it? Are you thirsty? Take a drink of water.

  40. C.L.

    Not sure if anyone has posted it but their ABC has gone stark raving bonkers. The latest? They’re blaming older people living in their own homes as the reason house prices are too high.

    What was that on, Gab?

  41. JC

    Achmed

    Go tend to the hole and stop pestering us with hair splitting nonsense. Shoo off.

    You fucking moron, whatever we say doesn’t influence American politics one bit. You’re not being interviewed on Fox or anywhere else to be thinking that by suggesting Trump bonked the hooker, this is going to somehow impact on his presidency. Stop aggrandizing yourself. You’re sitting in the middle of the desert in Sudan tending to a hole. No one is going to be too worried about what you think.

  42. zyconoclast

    TRANS-DIFFERENTLY-ABLED SUFFER GROWING PERSECUTION

    Some people have never heard of the trans-differently-abled. They are a community of special people who are forced to live with body parts that are not truly part of them. They are at the center of the world’s next great civil rights struggle. Many thoughtful observers believe that their struggle is the most important, and also the most difficult of all civil rights struggles. A trans-differently-abled person, is a normal person, who was born into a body with parts, organs or appendages that are not truly part of who they are. The unwanted part simply isn’t a part of them, as they see themselves, and as we must see them too!

    Not being trans-differently-abled, I cannot imagine how hard it must be to live that way. Some have an arm or leg, that their entire lives, they have known wasn’t truly theirs. Society is still very intolerant toward those who feel they were born with body parts that do not rightfully belong attached to their bodies. Even many progressives refuse to recognize trans-differently-abled individuals as normal sane people, worthy of their respect and compassion. They are people, human beings, who are just like us!

    In order to correct the mistake that occurred at their birth, or, as some claim, in fetal development, a body part or parts must be surgically removed. For those who have a hard time understanding their plight, imagine if you had been born with an extra arm or leg. You might feel that this unnecessary body part was often in your way, you would no doubt feel near constant annoyance at its unwanted presence. I would bet that you would even be grateful, if a doctor offered to surgically remove it for you! Now, if you can do that, you can at least begin to understand how the trans-differently-abled feel!

    There is a great deal of diversity within the trans-differnetly-abled, or TDA community. Some TDA individuals were born with eyes that they shouldn’t have, or an arm or leg, or sometimes two arms or two legs that don’t belong to them. Some were born with fingers or toes they shouldn’t have. A person may have an unwanted nosed attached to their body, or two testicles, when they know that they should only have one. On the other hand, some rare TDA individuals actually have three arms or three legs, yet were only born with two! Unfortunately, to date, those TDA individuals who require an additional body part, have not been able to obtain one. No one should make assumptions about TDA individuals, every situation is unique and special.

    “My so-called left arm isn’t really mine. It was never a part of me. I always felt it wasn’t supposed to be there, my right leg, it’s the same thing! My entire life I’ve been forced to live with these awful things. I swear to God, if someone doesn’t remove them, I’m going to kill myself. I won’t live this way!” Joseph explained, teary eyed, to his mother and father one day.” Joseph’s admission took great courage, yet his parents were confused. At first they didn’t support their son’s needs. It was only after several months of intense discussions with their son, and with a family therapist, that Joseph’s family came to understand. Their son had body parents attached to his body, which were not his, yet were attached to him from birth. In order for their son to be whole, those unwanted body parts had to be removed! Only then could his healing begin. Only then, could he truly be the person he is supposed to be.

    Unfortunately, for legal reasons Joseph’s family hasn’t been able to have his surgery conducted within the United States, their home country. They are currently consulting with a doctor in India, who has agreed to do the surgery. Unfortunately, this doctor is hesitant to reveal any board certifications or credentials, for fear that he could lose his medical license, should his identity become public. Something is very wrong when governments and even medical regulatory bodies refuse to help TDA children. Joseph’s story, sadly, isn’t unique. There are hundreds, perhaps even thousands of other children just like him, in the US alone. There is no telling how many children have this condition around the world. Estimates from sociologists indicate that anywhere from eight to twenty percent of the world population is TDA, and some TDA individuals do not even know they are TDA yet!

    Why do so many doctors refuse to let TDA individuals live as they truly are inside? Why does this condition threaten or scare so many people? The answer is hard to understand. What makes a person hate trans drag queens? What makes a person hate a peaceful religion like Wahhabi Islam? Why would a person hate peaceful migrants, coming to his or her country in order to enrich it and bring love to it? We may never truly know. There can be no rational explanation for the phenomenon of TDA-phobia.

    Dr. Marvin L. Zhaganandar of St. George Nevada has been arrested. His so-called crime? Responding to the needs of a patient. Ron Smith came in for an arm amputation. Dr. Zhaganandar carried it out. For this reason, Dr. Zhaganandar has lost his medical license, and now languishes in jail. Progressives need to call their congress person or senator, and demand that Dr. Zhaganandar be released. He is a medical doctor. Doctors are not criminals! His only crime is caring about his patients. As a thoughtful and compassionate individual, he simply couldn’t allow his patient to continue suffering from an unwanted arm. As a professional of conscience, Dr. Zhaganandar took bold and decisive action, he did what he knew was right!

    No individual should be forced to live with an arm, leg, eyes, ears, genitals, or any other part or organ attached to their body that was never truly part of them. A candle light vigil will be held outside of the St. George Nevada Correctional Facility, were peaceful progressive protesters will demand Dr. Zhaganandar’s release. The protest will be held one week from today beginning at 4:45 PM. Individuals of all races, colors, creeds, religions, sexual orientations, gender identities, and species will be present. An interfaith council comprised of Priests, Pastors, Rabbis, and Sheikhs will offer joint prayers for TDA rights, and lead an interfaith group protest outside of the National Cathedral in Washington DC.

    The American Medical Association continues to refuse to recognize the reality of TDA individuals. The American Psychological Association has voted down every motion to recognize TDA are a legitimate medical condition for the past two years. Many ignorant doctors have even gone so far as to say that those who are TDA are “mentally ill,” and should seek professional psychological help. What could possibly be more hurtful or more discounting? However, there is hope. In the 1970s the APA also claimed that homos3xuality was a mental disorder.

    The twittersphere is exploding now with stories of courageous and brave TDA individuals. A younger more enlightened generation is beginning to take notice of their plight, and more importantly, to get involved! The next civil rights struggle may have just begun, but its outcome is assured. We will have victory for TDA rights! Intolerance, bigotry, and prejudice have no place in the practice of medicine, or in criminal statutes which penalize those who help the most vulnerable in our society. TDA pride-world-wide!

  43. JC

    JC — Former San Francisco mayor who is the DEM’s candidate for CA governor to replace Jerry Brown.

    Okay. So he’s not really a candidate, he’s just replacing Jerry. Why bother having an election in California anymore, right?

  44. Rae

    Not sure if anyone has posted it but their ABC has gone stark raving bonkers. The latest? They’re blaming older people living in their own homes as the reason house prices are too high.

    People on the Cat were doing the same thing last year. If you started a discussion on it now they would do it again.

  45. vr

    Okay. So he’s not really a candidate, he’s just replacing Jerry. Why bother having an election in California anymore, right?

    Surprisingly, the Repub is competitive this time around. It might not be a walkover.

  46. struth

    Bloody Nhill.

    Those sky commentators including Credlin don’t get the big picture.
    Too invested in the now terminal liberal party.

  47. zyconoclast

    TRANS-DIFFERENTLY-ABLED SUFFER GROWING PERSECUTION

    Some people have never heard of the trans-differently-abled. They are a community of special people who are forced to live with body parts that are not truly part of them. They are at the center of the world’s next great civil rights struggle. Many thoughtful observers believe that their struggle is the most important, and also the most difficult of all civil rights struggles. A trans-differently-abled person, is a normal person, who was born into a body with parts, organs or appendages that are not truly part of who they are. The unwanted part simply isn’t a part of them, as they see themselves, and as we must see them too!

    Not being trans-differently-abled, I cannot imagine how hard it must be to live that way. Some have an arm or leg, that their entire lives, they have known wasn’t truly theirs. Society is still very intolerant toward those who feel they were born with body parts that do not rightfully belong attached to their bodies. Even many progressives refuse to recognize trans-differently-abled individuals as normal sane people, worthy of their respect and compassion. They are people, human beings, who are just like us!

    In order to correct the mistake that occurred at their birth, or, as some claim, in fetal development, a body part or parts must be surgically removed. For those who have a hard time understanding their plight, imagine if you had been born with an extra arm or leg. You might feel that this unnecessary body part was often in your way, you would no doubt feel near constant annoyance at its unwanted presence. I would bet that you would even be grateful, if a doctor offered to surgically remove it for you! Now, if you can do that, you can at least begin to understand how the trans-differently-abled feel!

    The twittersphere is exploding now with stories of courageous and brave TDA individuals. A younger more enlightened generation is beginning to take notice of their plight, and more importantly, to get involved! The next civil rights struggle may have just begun, but its outcome is assured. We will have victory for TDA rights! Intolerance, bigotry, and prejudice have no place in the practice of medicine, or in criminal statutes which penalize those who help the most vulnerable in our society. TDA pride-world-wide!

  48. JC

    Achmed

    You once told us that immigrants should be respectful of other people’s cultural values, which is why you changed your name to Achmed Mohammad Ma kka? Nice of you to do that as it shows you practice what you preach.

  49. JC

    Surprisingly, the Repub is competitive this time around. It might not be a walkover.

    You mean it’s 95 D, 5% GOP. Wow that’s a huge turnaround. 🙂

  50. .

    Like at this tosh from Crikey:

    Email title/intro:

    Morrison wants to legalise religious discrimination

    VALUES JUDGEMENT
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced a desire to enact “preventative regulation and legislation” to ensure religious schools can hire and fire staff according to their personal beliefs.
    In an interview with Sky News’ Paul Murray Live, Morrison acknowledged the lack of any discriminatory laws in existence, and said “I send my kids to a Christian school. I think that Christian school should be able to ensure that they can provide education consistent with the Christian faith and teachings … I don’t think that school should be told who they can and can’t employ.”

    It is noted as “discrimination”, not secure private property rights, freedom of association and in the interests of preserving diversity.

  51. cohenite

    It’s been put up before but by golly it’s worth repeating: How Women Weaken Nations (and why men let them):

  52. mh

    Liberty Quote
    The supply of government exceeds the demand.

    — Lewis H. Lapham II

    Good one.

  53. Makka

    Don’t get all upset JC. Lol, you can try to deflect, abuse and bullshit all you want. Water off a duck’s back.
    It’s been proven you’ve been caught making shit up yet again. Pretty fkg sad in my book. You’ve become your lunchdate, mUnty.

  54. JC

    mh

    I reckon it’s better the other way around especially these days.

    The demand for government exceeds supply.

    -JC

    Should be my liberty quote.

  55. JC

    It’s been proven you’ve been caught making shit up yet again. Pretty fkg sad in my book. You’ve become your lunchdate, mUnty.

    Oh FFS

    Dictionary – Admission – meaning.

    acknowledgment (or acknowledgement), avowal, concession, confession

    Admitting to making the payment is most certainly a concession.

    So yes, it’s an admission because it a revealing action.

    Achmed, you’re becoming worse that the site’s ferret and it’s not a good look.

  56. Snoopy

    Did DT really admit to bonking SD? I don’t recall it but I may have missed it amongst all the chaff.

  57. JC

    Right on cue, here’s the sites little ferret.

  58. JC

    Yea he did, Textor, because he admitted to the payment through Cohen and according to the dictionary this concession knocks on the door of admission.

    Be brave and ask the me the question directly next time. This battered’s routine of asking the audience doesn’t show you in good light., You know what I mean right? You even had Ahmed doing it recently.

  59. Snoopy

    The payment is not confirmation of bonking. There are lots of possible alternatives.

  60. mh

    Ok everyone, can you stop posting the How Women Weaken Nations as Cohenite has done above.

    If I wanted to be visually assaulted I could just visit any Westfield.

  61. JC

    So far we’ve had Cronkite sending us to what he called a “Hush Agreement” that he claimed would disabuse anyone from believing Trump paid the 130K out to D-cup for a series of trysts. The “Hush Agreement” was made by person named “David Dennison” and D-Cup. So this ended up in a cul de of stupidity.

    Achmed takes time from his busy schedule digging a hole and claims I’m being dishonest because I somehow don’t agree with him, which is now his operating mantra. If you disagree with Achmed, according to him, you’re lying.

    Then with impeccable timing, the little ferret shows up asking an open ended question but not directed to me. but really meant for me.

    This is side splitting.

  62. JC

    Snoopy
    #2819453, posted on September 18, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    The payment is not confirmation of bonking. There are lots of possible alternatives.
    mh

    Name only the plausible ones.

    Go!

  63. .

    Since we have an election coming up and looming government debt….

    Try to run a back of the envelope (or better if you can) calculation of how long it would take to pay off our government debt (all of it the States too because you’ve got to pay that as well), even with full-blown libertarian levels of spending and keeping the tax rates the same.

    Have a look at how long it takes if we cut spending by 5% of GDP or even if we cut it down to say 20% or even 15% or 10% of GDP.

    We’re in a far worse situation than most people realise.

    I’d suggest cutting spending by at least 1/3 to 40% and putting most toward debt consolidation. Tax cuts only really become feasible when you cut spending by 50% or more.

  64. Makka

    JC, stop the fatmouth cowardly bullshit.

    You have again been caught making shit up and this embarrassing ranting of yours is not going to change that. Not one little bit.

    Trump Admits To Authorizing Stormy Daniels Payoff, Denies Sexual Encounter

    https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607943366/giuliani-says-trump-did-know-about-stormy-daniels-payment

  65. Top Ender

    Gladys Premier NSW on PML rabbitting about making music events “safer.”

    How about making them more prosecutorial?

  66. JC

    I’d suggest cutting spending by at least 1/3 to 40% and putting most toward debt consolidation. Tax cuts only really become feasible when you cut spending by 50% or more.

    You’d slow the economy down massively without supply side reforms if you cut spending very quickly. Look, don’t get me wrong, we should do that, but it would be a bitter pill to swallow. Massive cuts to energy costs with open slather production on the energy front. Corp tax cuts down to 15%, reform the building unions. There’s a list a mile long.

    Oh and massive firings in Canberra.

  67. Makka

    We’re in a far worse situation than most people realise.

    This is true. It looks so much worse too when you factor in the household debt. Sure it’s private but if through happenstance a recession and high unemployment hits, resulting in widespread forced property liquidations and continued declines in valuations then our banks are in very serious trouble.

  68. mh

    The Mark Knight cartoon ‘contoversy’ is now heading to the Australia Press Council.

    Fuck me dead.

  69. Snoopy

    Name only the plausible ones.

    Are you seriously suggesting that bonking can be the only possible outcome when a woman visits a married man’s room?

  70. Pedro the Ignorant

    Another huge chunk of gold pulled out of the Beta Hunt mine in Kambalda WA.

    Add another $A1.8 million to the score of $A15 million already unearthed a week or so ago.

    The Canadian owners are re-thinking the decision to sell the mine. Duh.

    There’s gold in them thar hills!

  71. JC

    Achmed

    Fuck off with this bullshit. You’re becoming the site’s clown that everytime you disagree with someone you immediately go for the lying routine. You’re fucking lying about lying and you’ve had the ferret doing it too.

    Trump’s admission of the payment was an admission that he bonked D-cup.

    Take a deep breath and push down. Do you believe Trump bonked her?

    Yes or no?

    Man up for a change and answer this easy question.

  72. Myrddin Seren

    We’re in a far worse situation than most people realise.

    I’d suggest cutting spending by at least 1/3 to 40% and putting most toward debt consolidation. Tax cuts only really become feasible when you cut spending by 50% or more.

    Good luck with getting elected on that platform.

    Not saying you are wrong about the situation El Dotto – just that the punters won’t bite that bullet. As someone mentioned well upthread – look at how many Australians are already on the taxpayer stipend one way or another.

    We are on an ugly debt trajectory. Still, as a wise pundit showed here some years back ( You ), there is a huge pile of superannuation money that Government can hoover up and issue some IOUs for.

    Plus death duties.

    Plus – ‘nice house you have there, let’s start whacking more taxes on your notional wealth and see if you keep paying or sell up and let another willing punter sit at the wealth tax table ?’.

  73. JC

    Are you seriously suggesting that bonking can be the only possible outcome when a woman visits a married man’s room?

    Focus on the question asked of you and don’t ask me a question until you’ve answered mine, you slimy little ferret..

    Repeating it for you.

    Name only the plausible ones.

    Go!

  74. Top Ender

    Are you seriously suggesting that bonking can be the only possible outcome when a woman visits a married man’s room?

    Indeed not.

    If you are a public servant lady after some Workers Compo then this can happen.

  75. Makka

    Coward,

    Stay with the issue lame brain. It’s not what you think or what I think.

    YOU said Trump admitted bonking Stormy. Not only is that untrue, I have linked you to Trump’s denials.

    Stupidly you still insist on argueing. Bugger that.

    Now a) fk off and come back with your evidence or b) admit you made it up or c) admit you were wrong and apologies for your rude belligerent behavior.

  76. JC

    I’d venture with a yes, but I’m still waiting on two questions I have out, but it looks like neither Achmed nor the ferret will answer them.

  77. Myrddin Seren

    North Korea’s Kim says summit with Trump stabilised region, sees more progress

    Not the narrative – go back and make dire threats against – well, everyone.

  78. JC

    Snoopy
    #2819477, posted on September 18, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    Did Soon punt Aspergics?

    You should be though.

    Snoopy I used to remember you when you couldn’t even look at a person without being shy. You’ve been reading Jordan Peterson, haven’t you? This is a good thing, as you’re manning up a little to the big guys, but I really think you’re overegging the pudding. All this reframing and all, it only works with people of your lowly stature, not with me. Now answer the question.

  79. cohenite

    Yea he did, Textor, because he admitted to the payment through Cohen and according to the dictionary this concession knocks on the door of admission.

    Nope. You’ve had it explained to you head prefect, chapter and verse: this wilful stubborness by you indicates a character fault so large, so insurmountable that only one thing can be done: ah shaddap:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMaUBeaiHnQ

    You’re the hound head prefect.

  80. JC

    I’m closing the discussion down and calling it a win again sore losers (again) in the three minutes unless I get decent responses. Enough time waiting.

  81. cohenite

    I repeat, you’re the hound:

  82. JC

    Cronkite

    You really should not be entering this discussion. When you authoritatively sent me to that David Dennison agreement, which for some unknown reason, you believed was Trump’s, it was over for you. Game and set. You were killed in the opening stages. STFU and go to bed as you’ve been embarrassed enough.

  83. Makka

    Don’t run off with your marbles, fatmouth.

    a, b , or c? What’s it going to be?

  84. cohenite

    I guess you could be Foghorn.

  85. Shy Ted

    Met an unusual number of young people this week. Jeez. I encouraged them all to go to music concerts and give the illicit substances a nudge. May Darwin’s law apply

  86. .

    Stormy Daniels doesn’t deserve this level of attention.

    She has changed her story for profit and has a pre-prepared lie detector test as all honest people do.

    The upshot of all of these stories is that Trump actually treated his girlfriends decently.

    The only way to really attack him now through the concocted poundmetoo stuff is to demonise male sexuality and masculinity in toto.

  87. JC

    I’m still waiting for your economic model on immigration and trade, Achmed Scargill. No amount of bullshitting, that you posted it but can’t be bothered retrieving it, will pass muster, you lying bullshit artist. Grow a set of knackers and tell us why Australia should reinstate the car manufacturing subsidy scam.

    Go!

  88. None

    Tintarella di Luna

    #2819251, posted on September 18, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    Well looks like Wentworth is cooked.

    yep and fancy Phelps accepting labour help in her at campaign. Sure she’s an independent. *snort*

  89. Steve trickler

    A heat race at Reno with Australian, Lachie Onslow.



  90. Oh come on

    Hrm. James O’Keefe is going to have to do a LOT better than exposing one crank in the federal bureaucracy if his goal is to “unmask” the deep state. One crank does not a deep state make.

    This is claimed to be phase one, and

    More deep state investigation reports will be released soon

    Let’s hope so. And it needs to be hundreds of the above; probably thousands. And/or a big name or two.

  91. Stimpson J. Cat

    OK who the f$ck is Achmed?

    He sounds like a terrorist.

    JC stop encouraging terrorists on Catallaxy.

    And remember people,
    just in case of nuclear war or terrorism,
    Prepare With Ben.

  92. JC

    OK who the f$ck is Achmed?

    Makka!

    He thankfully resides in Africa and recently told us that as a mark of respect for Sudanese culture, he was doing he right thing and changing his name to Achmed Mohammad Ma kka. I like it and respect him for it.

  93. Oh come on

    Stimpson. Don’t be resentful. Find a way to monetise your madness, like Shapiro has monetised his Shapiro-ness. Don’t be a hater. It is unbecoming.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A morning spent tasting top class Beaujolais, with a howlingly lovely tour guide, an excellent lunch, and an afternoon cruising down a river in the Dombes. I wonder what the poor are doing?

  95. Oh come on

    And in all seriousness, there are likely hundreds – if not thousands – of people in the Carolinas who are pretty damn happy right now that they ‘prepared with Ben’, Stimps. Don’t be a xunt.

  96. JC

    Rones

    Possibly more interesting things than you. Beaujolais is slightly upgraded turpentine and will do nothing good to your sad liver.

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson. Don’t be resentful. Find a way to monetise your madness, like Shapiro has monetised his Shapiro-ness. Don’t be a hater. It is unbecoming.

    Resentful?
    A hater?

    Please.
    I’m just keeping everyone up to date with Ben’s latest bargains.
    No offence but I think Alex Jones did it first,
    and better.
    He’s just more of a salesman.
    He has a much more trustworthy face.

  98. Makka

    Stormy Daniels doesn’t deserve this level of attention.

    It’s the clown JC that’s getting the attention dotty.

    Caught lying again and suffering badly too by the looks. Wifey will confiscate his keyboard shortly. Then we’ll see what his bs brings us tomorrow.

  99. Oh come on

    I wonder what the poor are doing?

    Not being xunts? Seriously. You’re drunk, go home.

  100. Evening Zulu.
    It’s good to hear from you and that you are enjoying your holiday.

  101. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wonder what the poor are doing?

    Murdering White farmers in South Africa is my guess.

  102. Oh come on

    Please.
    I’m just keeping everyone up to date with Ben’s latest bargains.

    No, you’re being a dick. Criticise Shapiro on something worthwhile, like a perspective he espouses. Having a go at him because he promotes for profit what appears to be a perfectly reasonable product makes you look small. Having a go at him because you say he’s short and little makes you look small. Having a go at him because of what you say about his appearance makes you look small.

    Duh. This ought to be obvious.

  103. .

    I love the fake middle name meme on you tube.

    Ben “Just a Minute” Shapiro.
    Joe “I still eat brocoli, Dr Peterson” Rogan.

    A term of endearment from me.

  104. Oh come on

    MV, you are the poor. Just saying.

    Nice that Zulu’s thinking of you while he’s imbibing his watered-down antifreeze of a morning, however.

  105. Bruce in WA

    See you anon, Catallaxians. My wife and I fly out to Sinny in the morning, then USA the next day to stay with rellies until we get on a ship in Seattle and cruise back to Oz. Will try to make the odd post, but don’t expect anything as literate or creative as Lizzie’s.

  106. .

    MMT (“”modern” “monetary” “theory””) cranks (like sdfc) plague op-eds written by Cory.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/addiction-to-debt-is-taking-its-toll-on-the-nations-future/news-story/a2765bf8a795459d0aa300e89fa04661

    Kevin
    Feb 3, 2018

    These comments illustrate an obsessions amongst our Politicians with something that doesn’t matter (balancing their budget), and are ignoring many things which do matter a great deal for the future of the country. To get things in perspective.

    The Australian Government issues its own fiat currency, which floats freely on the international markets and is not pegged to another currency (like that of Euro users – eg Greece).

    Australia has a floating exchange rate, and no significant foreign currency debt. It has this in common with the US, Japan, UK and many more.

    Australia and many other monetary sovereign governments face no purely financial budget constraints.

    All economies and all governments face real and ecological limits with the production of goods and services for consumption.

    Governments can cause inflation if they spend wastefully and stupidly or set tax levels too low. If this happens, the total level of spending in the economy exceeds what can be produced by available resources – workers,capital, skills and technology.

    Obviously, we can also stuff-up our Planet if we produce junk or use bad or ineffectual processes to produce what we use.

    Because our government is a currency-issuing central government. It cannot run out of Australian dollars and it has no need to borrow the Australian dollars that it issues itself! Government bonds play a useful role in our financial system, but are not relevant to ‘balancing the budget’.

    Taxation supports demand for the currency. Spending precedes taxation. The non government sector cannot pay taxes without the government first spending. Governments spend first and tax afterwards. This doesn’t mean government spending and taxation have to equal each other, and in countries like Australia this rarely happens in practice.

    As long ago as 1945, the Chairman of the New York Reserve Bank, Beardsley Ruml, stated that “Taxes for Revenue are Obsolete”….stabilize the purchasing power of the dollar… “express public policy in the distribution of wealth and of income… subsidizing or in penalizing various industries and economic groups…“isolate and assess directly the costs of certain national benefits, such as highways and social security”.

    A government’s financial deficit is everybody else’s financial surplus.

    For every lender, there must be a borrower. That means that across our financial system, surpluses and deficits always add up to zero.

    Australian governments, both left and right have nearly always run deficits.

    The Howard government was only able to run fiscal surpluses because the private sector went heavily into deficit. Household debt trebled during the Howard years. We still have one of the highest household debt to income ratios in the world.

  107. Makka

    until we get on a ship in Seattle and cruise back to Oz.

    Careful with the salad bar Bruce.

  108. Oh come on

    China has warned it will have no choice but to retaliate after US President Donald Trump announced he will impose 10 per cent tariffs on $US200 billion worth of Chinese imports.

    Oooooh the Chinese!

  109. Mitch M.

    The only way to really attack him now through the concocted poundmetoo stuff is to demonise male sexuality and masculinity in toto.

    If you marry and promise fidelity you need to honour that. Christians have no choice, secular marriages can make that a choice.

    It reminds me of a very old doco on Jung where they mentioned his affair. One woman(not the mistress) said something to the effect that in Europe there was a more open minded attitude to men having affairs, it was not necessarily condoned but wasn’t that unusual.

    Trump bonked her. Melania certainly thinks so, she became very cold towards him since that issue hit the airwaves.

  110. Bruce in WA

    Careful with the salad bar Bruce.

    😀

    As a friend says, “Salad isn’t food. Salad is what food eats!”

  111. Have fun, Bruce.
    The last time Mrs MV and I went on a major cruise, we only slept in our cabin on the first night.
    After that, we only ended up going back there to shower and change.
    After seventeen days, when we got back to Brisbane, we just about had to be carried off.

  112. Oh come on

    If you marry and promise fidelity you need to honour that. Christians have no choice

    Er free will. Hello?

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    Duh. This ought to be obvious.

    You know JC is Head Prefect not you, right?

  114. As a friend says, “Salad isn’t food. Salad is what food eats!”

    Or as one wit put it,
    “salad is what the ladies serve up at barbecues to let the blokes know the steaks are almost ready”.

  115. Oh come on

    You know JC is Head Prefect not you, right?

    “Head Prefect” is a lame insult to level at JC, Stimps. Misses by a mile. Don’t go there. Just bathe in the truthiness of what I wrote above about your flaccid sledges against Shapiro. We both know it’s true. So what are you going to do about it? Shape up or bow out, I’d suggest.

  116. Trump bonked her. Melania certainly thinks so, she became very cold towards him since that issue hit the airwaves.

    Melania knows Trump did not get it on with Stormy.
    Stormy’s totally wrong description of Trump’s equipment may fly with the rest of us, but Melania knows Trump is not hung anything like that.
    The coolness will be something else altogether, perhaps she’s working on her regal poise or something.

  117. Fat Tony

    Oh come on

    Have you worked out which current African civilisations are great & wonderful and deserving of our admiration yet? And a worthy replacement for Western Civilisation?

    Or are you just going to call me a troll, moron etc again??

  118. Oh come on

    Have you worked out which current African civilisations are great & wonderful and deserving of our admiration yet? And a worthy replacement for Western Civilisation?

    No, because why would I. I never engaged you in that line of questioning. You made that up yourself. It’s quite peculiar.

  119. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2819522, posted on September 19, 2018 at 12:06 am
    You know JC is Head Prefect not you, right?

    “Head Prefect” is a lame insult to level at JC, Stimps. Misses by a mile. Don’t go there. Just bathe in the truthiness of what I wrote above about your flaccid sledges against Shapiro. We both know it’s true. So what are you going to do about it? Shape up or bow out, I’d suggest.

    FMD – you’re really full of yourself, aren’t you.
    I think JC is quite capable of looking after himself, but you should take your “truthiness” and “flaccid sledges” and shove them where the sun don’t shine.

    Shape up or bow out, I’d suggest. I suggest you just take your upyourself attitude and fuck off, you self-righteous prick.

  120. Oh come on

    I see Fatty has had a couple of Carlton Midstrengths tonight and is full of Dutch courage. He’s even taking it upon himself to respond for others.

    Fat Dutchy, listen up. Stimps doesn’t need two pot screamers like you to go into battle for him.

  121. Top Ender

    Bruce, we are travelling across the USA in January along the Mexican border – because it’s cold then.

    Probably too far south for you but if you see something no Cat should miss please sing out.

  122. Oh come on

    Dutchy, I’m going to bed now. It’s 10.30pm where I am and I have work on the morrow. So here’s how this will play out between Stimps and myself. Stimps may read what I have written and he might respond. Or he may not. Or he may not read what I have written and of course he will not respond. In any event, I’m sure he and I will again bicker over what we’ve bickered about here. I wouldn’t want to speak for Stimps, but I don’t think he cares that much about our difference of opinion – and I certainly don’t. It’s a long-running but very intermittent and low intensity quibble. That being said, the last thing I would want is the likes of you roaring into battle on my behalf, and I credit Stimps with a similar outlook.

    I’m going to bed, Dutchy, and so should you. The tough talk doesn’t suit you.

  123. zyconoclast

    Western Christianity isn’t dying out from natural causes. It’s committing suicide

    There’s nowhere more relevant to the modern world than Grace Cathedral, San Francisco. This Episcopal church advertises yoga and is totally non-judgmental (there’s a photo on its website of a man dressed as a nun) and I bet a fun time was had by all at last week’s Global Climate Action Summit Multi-Faith Service. You can watch a video online: down the aisle come clerics, musicians and men on stilts dressed as trees. Notice though, as the camera pans out, that the congregation is a bit thin at the back. And old. It’s in desperate need of some new sap.

    The wider US Episcopal church is facing extinction: just 500,000 attend its services on a Sunday, which an internal report calls a “profound and shocking decline”. Its sister church in England isn’t doing much better.

    The latest figures suggest that Church of England affiliation has halved since 2002 and that only 2 per cent of young people call themselves Anglican. This is despite the Church of England spending decades chasing cultural relevance. At the weekend, there was a discussion in this newspaper about whether or not God has a gender. “I don’t want young girls or young boys to hear us constantly refer to God as he,” said Rt Rev Rachel Treweek, the Bishop of Gloucester, because that might alienate people.

    The Rev doesn’t need to worry because no one is listening. Those of us who are Christian (I’m a Catholic and we have just the same problems as the Protestants) blame our falling numbers on everything but ourselves, from immigration to the internet. The truth is that Western Christianity isn’t dying out from natural causes or murder; it’s committing suicide.

    Like many agonies, you can blame it on the 1960s. The experiences of world war and nuclear threat seemed to necessitate a rethink in the way Christians acted: to preach less, listen more. Protestants and Catholics tried to meet people halfway, to talk to them in their own language. This could have been a marvellous project; humility and meekness are inherently Christian virtues. The crucifixion turned weakness into a strength, say the gospels, offering Jesus as a sacrifice for the whole of mankind. And, yes, it’s good to talk to the other faiths and, of course, social justice is a divine calling. At some point, however, dialogue turned into deference and socialism became the only face many bishops were comfortable showing the world.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby’s recent speech to the Trades Union Congress was a case in point. The gig economy, he said, is an “ancient evil” – and he may well be right. An archbishop has a duty to say it as he sees it, to articulate a preference for the poor. But if he imagined for one moment that his speech would win a single convert to Anglicanism, he was mistaken. All that happens when priests confirm the beliefs of Left-wing atheists is that the audience says: “thank you very much” and goes on being atheist, because they’re not being challenged; they’re being validated.

    Indeed, so much of what mainstream Christians now offer is a validation of Western society, a kind of a “thumbs up, well done”, which is stupid because unless you bring up God in a conversation, non-believers certainly won’t. If trying to be relevant to a shallow popular culture worked, church attendance would have risen since the Sixties or even stayed the same. It’s plummeted. And the few who do still loyally show up to communion aren’t there to talk about zero-hour contracts. That’s God’s time.

    You hear this said by the laity a lot; among younger clergy, too. The ones who stubbornly cling to the nostrums of the Sixties are the greying church leadership, who are reminiscent of the establishment “blob” that conservatives complain dominates education: good people, absolutely, but men and women who see themselves as curators of a faith rather than its evangelists, and who have become rather comfortable with underperformance.

    Just like a teacher who discourages pupils from applying to Oxford (“success will spoil you”), there are clerics who subconsciously see decline as a kind of grace. They prefer a Christianity that is weak, not in the sense of bloodied and bruised by combat, but weak as in submissive.

    They love the Church but, my God, they are smothering it. They have transformed a faith that only extended as far as it did through preaching and martyrdom into something anxious and introspective, excessively concerned with gender pronouns and saving the redwood tree.

    Make no mistake, this isn’t a debate about Left vs Right in Church politics; there’s room for both. No, it’s about whether the Church talks chiefly about man or about God. Whether Christians have a distinct message at all.

    Why should non-believers care? The answer to that question explains why Christians persist against the odds. Churches need to be strong for when people decide they do need them – in moments of celebration, more often in commiseration.

    Faith helps us deal with life and death, and the Anglican Communion, for all its wounds, remains a repository of culture and ethics. Remember: it is beauty and kindness that keep us from sliding into barbarism.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    Youse are all crazy in the nighttime.

  125. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Literary and creative, Bruce. Limited to this phone which wants to change every second word and an in and out wifi there is fat chance of that. I have no tech ability on this thing so feel very limited and when I do finally get a para out and submit it the wifi fails and I lose the lot. As I haven’t the ability to copy before sending so that’s another gift to the gods of cyberspace. Then the comment box starts to override my name box and I can’t see what I have written and sometimes it stops dead and it’s goodbye to all that too.

    Anyhow, we’ve just finished our home-cooked Greek dinner on the terrace and have departed to avoid the roistering Krauts and their linguistic awfulness. When yelled German is an unlovely language. Are these the same lot as last night? I whisper to Hairy. Couldn’t say, Lizzie, all Germans look alike to me, he offers helpfully.

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Last night I went to bed early while Hairy sat with his wine on our private terrace (private enough for us to hapily sit completely unclad on it for afternoon refreshments in the warmth of the day after our swim). Thus this morning Haity slept on and I woke at 5.30am to slip through the shutter doors and sit alone watching the sun rise over the three enormous mountains on the other side of the bay. Crete is a very dry mountainous country peppered occasionally with white towns and villages with small amounts of vegetation linked to human habitation. Much else is bare rock and some low scrub. In the early light I could see the sunlight slowly reveal the town of Agios Nikolaos which spreads up the hillsides from the sea, and all of it in miniature so far below me as the great bay from my intense looking started to seem like a slowly moving living thing. It is not hard to see why a sea god and his realm was important here. It was all so quiet that standing there in my white cotton nightgown I felt like some sort of otherworldly creature myself, so far removed from the warm human hours of the day past that was just emerging from the covering night into another dawn. A liminal time I was privileged to feel part of from up high shared with a slow breeze.

  127. Tom

    Finally, a British cartoonist who gets Trump! Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

  128. Baldrick

    Cheers Tom, Steve Kelley today.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    Irony of the day award goes to…

    Nike Outlet Calls Police on Man Waving Pro-Police Flag Outside Store

    A Little Rock, Arkansas, Nike outlet called police last Friday after a man waving a pro-police flag appeared outside the store, a report says. … Officers spoke to Cavin but after a few minutes simply drove off leaving the man to his peaceful demonstration.

    So here’s a guy waving a flag to support the police in protest to Nike supporting anti-police Kaepernick and the Nike employees want him arrested?

    Good thing there wasn’t a riot. The first thing rioters tend to do is break into Nike stores and steal all the shoes.

  130. Mark A

    Baldrick
    #2819555, posted on September 19, 2018 at 6:14 am

    Cheers Tom, Steve Kelley today.

    Yes I agree, and Tina Garrison, some of the rest I’m afraid needs intimate knowledge of US politics and personalities.

  131. Top Ender

    Interesting…

    Bill Hayden, at age 85, has ­renounced his atheism and been baptised into the Catholic Church.

    The former Labor leader and governor-general said it was witnessing so many selfless acts of compassion by Christians over his lifetime, and deep contemplation while recovering from a stroke, that prompted his decision.

    “I always regarded myself as a fellow traveller with Catholicism and declared I was a Catholic on official forms, but it wasn’t official,” Mr Hayden said. “I would go to mass every Sunday and then go to benediction when I was a teenager. I didn’t know that I wasn’t officially a Catholic, and found that out only later when my sister did the family history.

    “When you grow up with it, I don’t think it ever really leaves you…

    Reminds me of Brideshead Revisited

  132. John Constantine

    Good morning Australia.

    Has their Lucy turnfailure got the united Nations job she fled to New York City to claim?.

    Or will their Clinton crime cartel cast her a scrap?.

    Maybe redfilth gillard will hand out some payback for all the Australian taxpayer dollars the turnbullites cast her way?.

    Comrade Maaaaates?.

  133. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #2819559, posted on September 19, 2018 at 6:46 am

    Interesting…

    Bill Hayden, at age 85, has ­renounced his atheism and been baptised into the Catholic Church.

    A cynic, could easily dismiss it as a last ditch attempt to secure a place in heaven, sort of just in case.
    I believe it is nothing of the sort but a genuinely felt need on his part.

  134. Hydra

    Steve Kelley right on the mark. The left are astounding.

  135. Top Ender

    According the Oz:

    Brendan Doggett may be just the third indigenous cricketer to play a Test for Australia

    Hmmmm…..

  136. Elle

    A good bunch of toons, Tom. Thank you.

    Also, thank you to Steve trickler for the video clip last night of the jets racing. As the commentator said – love the music of the jets.

  137. If you marry and promise fidelity you need to honour that. Christians have no choice, secular marriages can make that a choice.

    When did ‘secular’ marriage not involve, as a matter of principle, fidelity?

  138. Geriatric Mayfly

    Grassley says Judiciary Committee hasn’t heard back from Kavanaugh accuser
    Maybe she´s getting her roots done.

    This headline from Lucianne seems a little indecorous given the current circumstances.

  139. OldOzzie

    Rae
    #2819364, posted on September 18, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    Hayden and Muggeridge. Both nervous about their beliefs once they saw the Grim Reaper beckoning. Both hedged their bets.

    Sensible Approach

  140. Dr Faustus

    Bill ‘The Satyr’ Shorten delivers a fair one for the laydeez:

    Bill Shorten to announce $400 million pitch to women on superannuation

    The Labor scheme would deliver a top-up payment for thousands of super accounts every year for those on parental leave, addressing one of the factors that leaves women with about 60 per cent of the retirement savings of men.

    The Labor scheme would start in July 2020 if Mr Shorten wins the next election and would be accompanied by other measures including an annual “women’s budget statement” to make gender equity a factor in all policy decisions.

    $400 million in OPM to fill a $625 billion gap? Make gender equity a factor in all policy decisions?
    Sure why not?

    The move comes as Prime Minister Scott Morrison tries to contain a Liberal Party row over the number of women in Parliament and concerns about intimidation of MPs during the leadership spill that toppled Malcolm Turnbull.

    There must be an election due.

  141. Dr Faustus

    Bill Shorten @billshortenmp

    Guess what? Quotas work. @tanya_plibersek @SenatorWong

    So, not merit then?

  142. Nick

    While I think Sam Burgess is stupid for a variety of reasons, this made my eyes pop:

    Fairfax Media understands the woman refused to be formally interviewed by South Sydney when contacted on Monday in South Africa, where she is holidaying.

    There is a belief within the four walls at Redfern this means the woman has withdrawn her complaint. The NRL argues otherwise, saying she can change her mind at any time if she decides she wants to talk.

    The whole thing smells like a Chinese dump. Burgess says it was consensual, she allegedly has links to the Roosters and refuses to be interviewed yet she can ‘choose’ at any time to rehash her allegations.

  143. Dr Faustus

    Citizen Turnbull in the slot, but Josh Frydenberg on the rack:

    Malcolm Turnbull called on to answer $444-million question

    Labor is calling on Malcolm Turnbull to front up to a parliamentary inquiry and answer questions about a $444-million grant handed to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation.

    Labor Senator Kristina Keneally tells Luke Grant there were no “public servants” present at the closed-door meeting that lasted less than an hour and from what they understand, no notes were taken.

    Ms Keneally says the Senate committee has now requested Mr Turnbull front up to the parliamentary inquiry and answer some pressing questions about the mysterious grant.

    The fuckup fairies have come to call…

  144. jupes

    New York update.

    Brunch in The Rockefeller Centre (another superb building) then a walk to the Intrepid Museum. Spent a few hours there but still not enough. There were plenty of great planes but the highlight for me was the Grumman Avenger. It was the first model plane I ever made but I had never seen a real one before.

    Today is the only day rain is forecasted so I got soaked on the way home because I was too lousy to pay for an umbrella until it was too late. Idiot.

    Dinner at Hell’s Kitchen tonight.

  145. OldOzzie

    “This Didn’t Happen”

  146. jupes

    Labor Senator Kristina Keneally tells Luke Grant there were no “public servants” present at the closed-door meeting

    She says that as if it’s a bad thing.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bill Shorten @billshortenmp
    Guess what? Quotas work. @tanya_plibersek @SenatorWong

    Obviously he doesn’t read the Cat: EEO unintended consequences
    Rafe is right over the target!

  148. jupes

    Guess what? Quotas work. @tanya_plibersek @SenatorWong

    A piss-take surely.

  149. OldOzzie

    CABLE NEWS RACE
    MON SEPT 17 2108

    FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,577,000
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  150. Snoopy

    Top Ender
    #2819565, posted on September 19, 2018 at 7:28 am
    According the Oz:

    Brendan Doggett may be just the third indigenous cricketer to play a Test for Australia

    Hmmmm…..

    He’s the spitting image of Eddie Gilbert. Incredible!

  151. Eyrie

    “There were plenty of great planes but the highlight for me was the Grumman Avenger. It was the first model plane I ever made but I had never seen a real one before.”
    I got to sit in one once. There is a door down the back and you walk forward and up a stairway to get to the cockpit. Heaps of room.

  152. OldOzzie

    The #MeToo Kavanaugh Ambush

    A story this old and unprovable can’t be allowed to delay a Supreme Court confirmation vote.

    By The Editorial Board
    Updated Sept. 17, 2018 7:47 p.m. ET

    The woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh of a drunken assault when both were teenagers has now come forward publicly, and on Monday it caused Republicans to delay a confirmation vote and schedule another public hearing. Yet there is no way to confirm her story after 36 years, and to let it stop Mr. Kavanaugh’s confirmation would ratify what has all the earmarks of a calculated political ambush.

    This is not to say Christine Blasey Ford isn’t sincere in what she remembers. In an interview published in the Washington Post on Sunday, Ms. Ford offered a few more details of the story she told anonymously starting in July. She says she was 15 when Mr. Kavanaugh, who would have been 17, and a male friend pushed her into a bedroom at a drinking party, held her down, and pawed her until the male friend jumped on them both and she escaped to a bathroom until the two boys left the room.

    Mr. Kavanaugh denies all this “categorically and unequivocally,” and there is simply no way to prove it. The only witness to the event is Mr. Kavanaugh’s high school male friend, Mark Judge, who also says he recalls no such event. Ms. Ford concedes she told no one about it—not even a high school girl friend or family member—until 2012 when she told the story as part of couples therapy with her husband.

    The vagaries of memory are well known, all the more so when they emerge in the cauldron of a therapy session to rescue a marriage. Experts know that human beings can come to believe firmly over the years that something happened when it never did or is based on partial truth. Mistaken identity is also possible.

    The Post reports that the therapist’s notes from 2012 say there were four male assailants, but Ms. Ford says that was a mistake. Ms. Ford also can’t recall in whose home the alleged assault took place, how she got there, or how she got home that evening.

    This is simply too distant and uncorroborated a story to warrant a new hearing or to delay a vote. We’ve heard from all three principals, and there are no other witnesses to call. Democrats will use Monday’s hearing as a political spectacle to coax Mr. Kavanaugh into looking defensive or angry, and to portray Republicans as anti-women. Odds are it will be a circus.

    The timing and details of how Ms. Ford came forward, and how her name was coaxed into public view, should also raise red flags about the partisan motives at play. The Post says Ms. Ford contacted the paper via a tip line in July but wanted to remain anonymous. She then brought her story to a Democratic official while still hoping to stay anonymous.

    Yet she also then retained a lawyer, Debra Katz, who has a history of Democratic activism and spoke in public defense of Bill Clinton against the accusations by Paula Jones. Ms. Katz urged Ms. Ford to take a polygraph test. The Post says she passed the polygraph, though a polygraph merely shows that she believes the story she is telling.

    The more relevant question is why go to such lengths if Ms. Ford really wanted her name to stay a secret? Even this weekend she could have chosen to remain anonymous. These are the actions of someone who was prepared to go public from the beginning if she had to.

    The role of Senator Dianne Feinstein is also highly irregular and transparently political. The ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee knew about Ms. Ford’s accusations in late July or early August yet kept quiet. If she took it seriously, she had multiple opportunities to ask Judge Kavanaugh or have committee staff interview the principals. But in that event the details would have been vetted and Senators would have had time to assess their credibility.

    Instead Ms. Feinstein waited until the day before a committee markup on the nomination to release a statement that she had “information” about the accusation and had sent it to the FBI. Her statement was a political stunt.

    She was seeking to insulate herself from liberal charges that she sat on the letter. Or—and this seems increasingly likely given the course of events—Senator Feinstein was holding the story to spring at the last minute in the hope that events would play out as they have. Surely she knew that once word of the accusation was public, the press would pursue the story and Ms. Ford would be identified by name one way or another.

    Democrats waited until Ms. Ford went public to make public statements. But clearly some were feeding the names of Ms. Ford and her lawyer to the press, and now they are piling on what they hope will be an election-eve #MeToo conflagration.

    “Senator [and Judiciary Chairman] Grassley must postpone the vote until, at a very minimum, these serious and credible allegations are thoroughly investigated,” declared Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Sunday. “For too long, when women have made serious allegations of abuse, they have been ignored. That cannot happen in this case.”

    His obvious political goal is to delay the confirmation vote past the election, fan the #MeToo political furies until then, and hope that at least two GOP Senators wilt under political pressure. If Republican Senators Jeff Flake and Bob Corker think a hearing will satisfy Mr. Schumer, they are right to retire from politics.

    GOP Senators should understand that the political cost of defeating Mr. Kavanaugh will likely include the loss of the Senate. Democrats are already motivated to vote against Donald Trump, and if Republicans panic now their own voters will rightly be furious. They would be letting Democrats get away with the same dirty trick they tried and failed to pull off against Clarence Thomas.

    It would also be a serious injustice to a man who has by all accounts other than Ms. Ford’s led a life of respect for women and the law. Every #MeToo miscreant is a repeat offender. The accusation against Mr. Kavanaugh is behavior manifested nowhere else in his life.

    No one, including Donald Trump, needs to attack Ms. Ford. She believes what she believes. This is not he said-she said. This is a case of an alleged teenage encounter, partially recalled 30 years later without corroboration, and brought forward to ruin Mr. Kavanaugh’s reputation for partisan purposes.

    Letting an accusation that is this old, this unsubstantiated and this procedurally irregular defeat Mr. Kavanaugh would also mean weaponizing every sexual assault allegation no matter the evidence. It will tarnish the #MeToo cause with the smear of partisanship, and it will unleash even greater polarizing furies.

    Appeared in the September 18, 2018, print edition.

  153. .

    The whole thing smells like a Chinese dump. Burgess says it was consensual, she allegedly has links to the Roosters and refuses to be interviewed yet she can ‘choose’ at any time to rehash her allegations.

    What a crock of shit.

    What a sham!

  154. Dr Faustus

    Today is the only day rain is forecasted so I got soaked on the way home because I was too lousy to pay for an umbrella until it was too late.

    If it’s wet, go to the Met.

  155. Mother Lode

    The Sickly Morphing Haemorrhoid has its headlines today that universities face new speech codes.

    The story beneath it then talks about how it is a recommendation one of the Human Rights Commission’s commissioners.

    You would think ‘to be facing’ means that it is something that could be brought about – such as a Minister pondering it due to the minster having authority to implement it.

    The HRC does not have authority over the universities.

    And they won’t have – until they give it to themselves.

  156. OldOzzie

    The MeToo Kavanaugh Ambush

    A story this old and unprovable can’t be allowed to delay a Supreme Court confirmation vote.

    By The Editorial Board
    Updated Sept. 17, 2018 7:47 p.m. ET

    The woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh of a drunken assault when both were teenagers has now come forward publicly, and on Monday it caused Republicans to delay a confirmation vote and schedule another public hearing. Yet there is no way to confirm her story after 36 years, and to let it stop Mr. Kavanaugh’s confirmation would ratify what has all the earmarks of a calculated political ambush.

    This is not to say Christine Blasey Ford isn’t sincere in what she remembers. In an interview published in the Washington Post on Sunday, Ms. Ford offered a few more details of the story she told anonymously starting in July. She says she was 15 when Mr. Kavanaugh, who would have been 17, and a male friend pushed her into a bedroom at a drinking party, held her down, and pawed her until the male friend jumped on them both and she escaped to a bathroom until the two boys left the room.

    Mr. Kavanaugh denies all this “categorically and unequivocally,” and there is simply no way to prove it. The only witness to the event is Mr. Kavanaugh’s high school male friend, Mark Judge, who also says he recalls no such event. Ms. Ford concedes she told no one about it—not even a high school girl friend or family member—until 2012 when she told the story as part of couples therapy with her husband.

    The vagaries of memory are well known, all the more so when they emerge in the cauldron of a therapy session to rescue a marriage. Experts know that human beings can come to believe firmly over the years that something happened when it never did or is based on partial truth. Mistaken identity is also possible.

    The Post reports that the therapist’s notes from 2012 say there were four male assailants, but Ms. Ford says that was a mistake. Ms. Ford also can’t recall in whose home the alleged assault took place, how she got there, or how she got home that evening.

    This is simply too distant and uncorroborated a story to warrant a new hearing or to delay a vote. We’ve heard from all three principals, and there are no other witnesses to call. Democrats will use Monday’s hearing as a political spectacle to coax Mr. Kavanaugh into looking defensive or angry, and to portray Republicans as anti-women. Odds are it will be a circus.

    The timing and details of how Ms. Ford came forward, and how her name was coaxed into public view, should also raise red flags about the partisan motives at play. The Post says Ms. Ford contacted the paper via a tip line in July but wanted to remain anonymous. She then brought her story to a Democratic official while still hoping to stay anonymous.

    Yet she also then retained a lawyer, Debra Katz, who has a history of Democratic activism and spoke in public defense of Bill Clinton against the accusations by Paula Jones. Ms. Katz urged Ms. Ford to take a polygraph test. The Post says she passed the polygraph, though a polygraph merely shows that she believes the story she is telling.

    The more relevant question is why go to such lengths if Ms. Ford really wanted her name to stay a secret? Even this weekend she could have chosen to remain anonymous. These are the actions of someone who was prepared to go public from the beginning if she had to.

    The role of Senator Dianne Feinstein is also highly irregular and transparently political. The ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee knew about Ms. Ford’s accusations in late July or early August yet kept quiet. If she took it seriously, she had multiple opportunities to ask Judge Kavanaugh or have committee staff interview the principals. But in that event the details would have been vetted and Senators would have had time to assess their credibility.

    Instead Ms. Feinstein waited until the day before a committee markup on the nomination to release a statement that she had “information” about the accusation and had sent it to the FBI. Her statement was a political stunt.

    She was seeking to insulate herself from liberal charges that she sat on the letter. Or—and this seems increasingly likely given the course of events—Senator Feinstein was holding the story to spring at the last minute in the hope that events would play out as they have. Surely she knew that once word of the accusation was public, the press would pursue the story and Ms. Ford would be identified by name one way or another.

    Democrats waited until Ms. Ford went public to make public statements. But clearly some were feeding the names of Ms. Ford and her lawyer to the press, and now they are piling on what they hope will be an election-eve MeToo conflagration.

    “Senator [and Judiciary Chairman] Grassley must postpone the vote until, at a very minimum, these serious and credible allegations are thoroughly investigated,” declared Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Sunday. “For too long, when women have made serious allegations of abuse, they have been ignored. That cannot happen in this case.”

    His obvious political goal is to delay the confirmation vote past the election, fan the MeToo political furies until then, and hope that at least two GOP Senators wilt under political pressure. If Republican Senators Jeff Flake and Bob Corker think a hearing will satisfy Mr. Schumer, they are right to retire from politics.

    GOP Senators should understand that the political cost of defeating Mr. Kavanaugh will likely include the loss of the Senate. Democrats are already motivated to vote against Donald Trump, and if Republicans panic now their own voters will rightly be furious. They would be letting Democrats get away with the same dirty trick they tried and failed to pull off against Clarence Thomas.

    It would also be a serious injustice to a man who has by all accounts other than Ms. Ford’s led a life of respect for women and the law. Every MeToo miscreant is a repeat offender. The accusation against Mr. Kavanaugh is behavior manifested nowhere else in his life.

    No one, including Donald Trump, needs to attack Ms. Ford. She believes what she believes. This is not he said-she said. This is a case of an alleged teenage encounter, partially recalled 30 years later without corroboration, and brought forward to ruin Mr. Kavanaugh’s reputation for partisan purposes.

    Letting an accusation that is this old, this unsubstantiated and this procedurally irregular defeat Mr. Kavanaugh would also mean weaponizing every sexual assault allegation no matter the evidence. It will tarnish the MeToo cause with the smear of partisanship, and it will unleash even greater polarizing furies.

    Appeared in the September 18, 2018, print edition.

  157. C.L.

    Bill Hayden, at age 85, has ­renounced his atheism and been baptised into the Catholic Church.

    The former Labor leader and governor-general said it was witnessing so many selfless acts of compassion by Christians over his lifetime, and deep contemplation while recovering from a stroke, that prompted his decision.

    “I always regarded myself as a fellow traveller with Catholicism and declared I was a Catholic on official forms, but it wasn’t official,” Mr Hayden said. “I would go to mass every Sunday and then go to benediction when I was a teenager. I didn’t know that I wasn’t officially a Catholic, and found that out only later when my sister did the family history

    Yay! Never too late, Bill. Welcome aboard.

  158. .

    The Labor scheme would deliver a top-up payment for thousands of super accounts every year for those on parental leave, addressing one of the factors that leaves women with about 60 per cent of the retirement savings of men.

    The Labor scheme would start in July 2020 if Mr Shorten wins the next election and would be accompanied by other measures including an annual “women’s budget statement” to make gender equity a factor in all policy decisions.

    Don’t worry ladies, it id entirely feasible. We’re taking it back off you when the Commonwealth becomes insolvent. Think of it as window shopping.

  159. C.L.

    More from the Bill Hayden story in The Australian:

    The baptismal ceremony was conducted by Father Peter Dillon at St Mary’s Catholic Church in Ipswich, Queensland, on September 9. The invitation to family and friends from Bill and Dallas Hayden said “It’s time”. A passage from the Bible was included: “Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

    Nice.

    Mr Hayden described the baptism ceremony as an ethereal and uplifting experience.

    “I think some people might even sneer at me, but that is life,” he said yesterday. “I decided I needed it. I’m pleased I did it and know that I did the right thing.”

    Let them sneer.

  160. C.L.

    Looks like crazy Kavanaugh accuser will be a no-show.

  161. Snoopy

    CL, ScoMo could always get a live-in au pair and get his wife a cushy job at the ABC just like Annabel’s husband.

    (Crabb) has a live-in au pair and a husband, Jeremy Storer, who works some flexible days as a lawyer so he can be a hands-on father.

  162. Leigh Lowe

    Looks like crazy Kavanaugh accuser will be a no-show

    Get with the Metoo program!
    She doesn’t have to.
    She has simply made the accusation and MUST be believed.

  163. Roger

    “I always regarded myself as a fellow traveller with Catholicism and declared I was a Catholic on official forms, but it wasn’t official,” Mr Hayden said.

    Now his baptism makes sense to me; I’d always regarded Bill as a lapsed Catholic on the basis of his account of leaving the church after the accidental death of a young daughter. He was an unofficial lapsed Catholic. Every blessing Bill; you’re one of the last decent Labor men.

  164. .

    Invitation?

    Maybe she should be subpoenaed.

    This whole poundmetoo thing is unravelling. The Times Up lynch mob is saying now that BK can not be confirmed until Ford is heard.

    So she doesn’ turn up and the D’rats win?

    This whole shame is exposed for what it is – women and the (increasingly progressive) D’rats gaining power at the expense of men and the (increasingly conservative) GOP.

    Now all the GOP has got to do is call her and Feinstein, Eshoo, Katz liars publicly and they win.

    Even better if they get an admission of lying or trapping them in their lies under oath.

  165. Snoopy

    Looks like crazy Kavanaugh accuser will be a no-show.

    No doubt Ford’s commo lesbian lawyer will go apeshit when her demand to be appear before the Senate committee in Ford’s place is not met.

  166. .

    geez the spelling today is like Dr Fred Lenin’s…

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    Annabel Crabb:
    How do you propose to raise kids and be Prime Minister, Mr Morrison?

    She should ask Jacinda Ardern that question.

  168. mh

    Tom
    #2819543, posted on September 19, 2018 at 6:00 am
    Finally, a British cartoonist who gets Trump! Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

    Are you sure you understood the cartoon, Tom?

  169. Geriatric Mayfly

    ABC helped Fairfax pursue hero
    The ABC collaborated with Fairfax Media on an investigation into alleged war atrocities, court documents reveal.

    When they are in a writhing knot, it’s hard to tell one maggot from another.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Are you sure you understood the cartoon, Tom?

    Need to look at the slip sticking out of the envelope.

  171. OldOzzie

    Fascinating Read

    Israel “Expresses Sorrow” Over Russian Plane Downing, But Blames Assad And Iran For Incident

    Russia further confirmed that Israel notified Russia of the impending massive attack on Syrian targets through the military-to-military hotline set up to prevent such “accidents” but only gave a one minute notice, which didn’t allow Russian aircraft to evacuate the area.

    Below is the IDF response to the Russian charges, issued Tuesday:

    An initial inquiry of the incident suggests: 1. Extensive and inaccurate Syrian anti-aircraft (Surface to Air missile) fire caused the Russian plane to be hit and downed. 2. When the Syrian Army launched the missiles that hit the Russian plane, IAF jets were already within Israeli airspace. 3. During the strike against the target in Latakia, the Russian plane that was then hit was not within the area of the operation. 4. The Syrian anti-air batteries fired indiscriminately and from what we understand, did not bother to ensure that no Russian planes were in the air.

    Thus Israel is claiming its jets were nowhere near the Russian Il-20 aircraft — an implicit denial of the Russian Defense Ministry’s charge of a “set-up”.

    An initial inquiry of the incident suggests:
    1. Extensive and inaccurate Syrian anti-aircraft (Surface to Air missile) fire caused the Russian plane to be hit and downed.
    — Israel Defense Forces (@IDFSpokesperson) September 18, 2018

  172. .

    The ABC collaborated with Fairfax Media on an investigation into alleged war atrocities, court documents reveal.

    You know what to do Mr Morrison. Set your phasers to annihilate.

  173. lotocoti

    Get with the Metoo program!

    Better that ten innocent men suffer, than one guilty man escapes.

  174. Today is the only day rain is forecasted so I got soaked on the way home because I was too lousy to pay for an umbrella until it was too late. Idiot.

    Yes, getting caught in the rain in NYC is not an experience you soon forget. Rain on the east coast is usually a downpour. It’s like nothing I’ve experienced in Melbourne.

  175. Mother Lode

    If it’s wet, go to the Met.

    A handy adage that children should learn at their mother’s breast.

    Much better than “Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.”

  176. Leigh Lowe

    “I think some people might even sneer at me, but that is life,” he said yesterday. “I decided I needed it. I’m pleased I did it and know that I did the right thing.”

    Let them sneer.

    That is the point.
    Had he taken up Islam or Buddhism there would have been an episode on Australian Story next week entitled something like “Journey To Enlightenment”.

  177. Nick

    That is the point.
    Had he taken up Islam or Buddhism there would have been an episode on Australian Story next week entitled something like “Journey To Enlightenment”.

    That’s what the Warners are going to do!

  178. calli

    From Zippy’s link at 1:08am:

    Faith helps us deal with life and death, and the Anglican Communion, for all its wounds, remains a repository of culture and ethics. Remember: it is beauty and kindness that keep us from sliding into barbarism.

    The writer makes a good argument, but then falls into the same trap.

    Faith is life or death, not a little helping hand to see us through life’s bumpy bits. A G&T can do that.

    Beauty and kindness, amongst other things, are side effects of transformed lives. The churches will start filling again when they cut the SJW crap and preach the Gospel faithfully and without compromise. And that includes the hard bits about sin and repentance and self-denial.

  179. C.L.

    Had he taken up Islam or Buddhism there would have been an episode on Australian Story next week entitled something like “Journey To Enlightenment”.

    It’s funny because it’s true.

  180. mh

    The ratings for Week Two’s Monday Night Football game between the Chicago Bears and the Seattle Seahawks, crashed to the lowest numbers ever recorded for a Week Two Monday night game.

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/09/18/monday-night-football-posts-lowest-week-2-ratings-ever-recorded/

  181. .

    That’s what the Warners are going to do!

    A weird way to celebrate a mega-payout from the parrot.

  182. OldOzzie

    Interestong Site – Qmap.Pub

    Any Cats know anything about ths site?

  183. Nick

    No Dot, the other ones, David and Candace.

  184. Rae

    C.L. #2819602, posted on September 19, 2018 at 8:39 am

    Looks like crazy Kavanaugh accuser will be a no-show.

    Says you and who else?

  185. Trudeau must apologize to Chinese Canadians – Ezra Levant

    Trudeau repeats the lie of a young Muslima but then fails to correct the public record when a police investigation establishes it was all fabricated. Nine months later a young Chinese women is murdered by a Syrian refugee and the PM is silent.
    This is how bugmen roll.

  186. calli

    Intrepid is on the NYC List now.

    Thanks jupes!

  187. mh

    The Daily Caller

    @DailyCaller
    [email protected]’s facial expression when hearing Poland might name a military base “Fort Trump” is priceless.
    4:55 AM – Sep 19, 2018
    https://mobile.twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1042125025250295808/video/1

  188. H B Bear

    That’s what the Warners are going to do!

    Won’t be seeing the Warners on Australian Story any time soon. They are the wrong kind of people for the ALPBC staff co-op.

  189. Snoopy

    You’re on the mend aren’t you Rae?

  190. Snoopy

    The good guys are the Wagners.

  191. Viva

    I must say that for a man accused of a drunken sexual assault, Judge Kavanaugh is the most fresh faced innocent looking 53 year man I’ve seen.

  192. Oldozzie

    Tony Abbott’s nemesis, Michael Photios, faces his own numbers deficit – Graham Richardson

    Factional wars in the Liberal Party may not be new but they have never been as vicious as they are today.

    Even if you go back to the bad old days of the Labor Left being run by Communist Party joint-ticket holders such as Arthur Gietzelt, it would have been unthinkable that a ministerial staffer from the Left would be chief heckler and leaker to the media at a meeting to endorse an unopposed candidate of the Right. Yet that is exactly what happened at a meeting called to endorse Tony Abbott as the Liberal candidate for Warringah, a seat he has represented for decades. In the bid to destroy Abbott the gloves are well and truly off.

    The Photios faction sees it as its mission to get the former prime minister to quit politics.

    Its efforts only seem to strengthen his determination to stay. Aided by allies in the Fairfax press, there has been a consistent thread in the public discourse — the numbers of the vote on the night in question were being kept secret because they were so close it would be highly embarrassing to Abbott.

    When the numbers were revealed, Abbott was shown to have been absolutely spot on when he claimed it was roughly 70 votes to 30. The losers were exaggerating their support and a few mugs in the media fell for it.

    Abbott has criticised the fact that lobbyists, and Michael Photios in particular, have far too much influence on the NSW branch of his party. If you meet Photios you will find him a charming, urbane bloke who could lay claim to an Olympic gold medal in networking.

    While running the party and simultaneously running an extraordinarily successful lobbying firm, Photios has become a wealthy man. He brooks no opposition and managed to expel from the party a lifelong supporter in my Sky News colleague Ross Cameron, a former MP for Parramatta.

    The Photios business model is truly fascinating. He can send in one of his troops to lobby a state minister or a federal minister from NSW and that minister knows that his or her preselection may well rest with that lobbyist’s boss. Just how much that fear would influence a minister we can only speculate, but you’d be forgiven for thinking it may count in the decision-making process.

    Those companies that do hire Photios pay big bucks for the access and, they hope, the influence. The NSW government is at war with Acciona, the mob building the disastrous light rail, and which pays Photios to represent it. He has also signed up The Star casino, Transfield, Telstra, Sydney Airport, Suncorp, QIC, Merivale, Xstrata, Glencore and Caltex. You would be entitled to wonder why all these big outfits go to one place.

    There is one problem with the Photios business model: it depends on a state Liberal government. Premier Gladys Berejiklian and two-thirds of the NSW cabinet are members of the Photios team. Given the terrible string of by-election results and the state of the polls, I am left wondering whether a Photios employee could ever gain entry to the office of the likely new premier, Luke Foley. Come March, methinks the days of wine and roses for one lobbying firm may well be over.

  193. .

    That Q Map site is weak, peddling run of the mill crime news as evidence of conspiracy, full of anti shemetic/Israel nonsense and engaging in terrible libel.

    It is most likely just clickbait.

  194. OldOzzie

    .
    #2819646, posted on September 19, 2018 at 9:27 am
    That Q Map site is weak, peddling run of the mill crime news as evidence of conspiracy, full of anti shemetic/Israel nonsense and engaging in terrible libel.


    It is most likely just clickbait.

    Thanks for that update Old Ozzie

  195. Calli, have I mentioned the Cloisters? They are worth the trip uptown. Then wander around the museum gardens. They’re great. Near the southern end of the grounds there’s an old passage way leading down to what is now the freeway. It has a stretch of magnificent archs worth visiting. The passage used to be the entry to the estate when it was a private residence.

  196. Tom

    Are you sure you understood the cartoon, Tom?

    mh, 100% of British cartoonists loathe Trump. Christian Adams, of the London Evening Standard, is the only one who has pointed out that Trump is waging a trade war on behalf of America.

    With 100% of the British press campaigning against Trump and Brexit, Adams is careful to protect himself from public criticism by making clear he thinks Trump is a loathsome loudmouth, but he is the only British cartoonist not portraying Trump as a buffoon and a figure of fun.

    None of that means I particularly like or respect Adams as a cartoonist. I weep for Fleet Street, once a fearless public advocate, now a ruling class lapdog. Only the long-running weekly Private Eye and Ruperdink Mudrock’s working class daily The Sun buck the trend.

  197. Tel

    Scott Morison explaining on PM Live that staying in the Paris Agreement is a matter of national security.

    You have got to be shitting me.

  198. max

    Compare Bill Hayden with Jim Cairns.
    Cairns devoted his life to a lie. Calling bonking Junie ‘a kind of love’ was the least of it.

  199. jupes

    Intrepid is on the NYC List now.

    There’s also a 1960s nuke missile sub – USS Growler, a space shuttle – Enterprise and a Concorde.

    The top deck of the USS carrier has planes galore including an A-12 – predecessor to the SR-71 (laymen like me can’t tell the difference).

  200. None

    A cynic, could easily dismiss it as a last ditch attempt to secure a place in heaven, sort of just in case.
    I believe it is nothing of the sort but a genuinely felt need on his part.

    I posted a link to that story yesterday but Cats were all too busy discussing Trump’s genitalia (I kid you not). Anyway the Catholic Leader website crashed I think from too many hits so genitatlia would not have mattered.
    Troy Bamston has a write up in the Australian today. Yes it is genuine ( do you honestly think god wouldn’t be able to know if you were hedging your bets? LOL).

    By the way, he was raised Catholic – went to Catholic schools – but was never baptised.

  201. Senile Old Guy

    Scott Morison explaining on PM Live that staying in the Paris Agreement is a matter of national security.

    Morrison is actually worse than Turnbull, much as it pains me to write this. And possibly worse than Shorten. It pains me even more to write that! Neither Shorten or Turnbull actually believe most of environmentalist nonsense but just say so for the “vibe”. Morrison seems to believe this arrant rubbish. The US, China and India are not in the stupid Paris Agreement (on doing nothing but waste money), so the whole thing is utterly pointless. (Although the so-called “developing” countries will continue to push it to get money from the west.)

    Even if there was any evidence to support it (there is not), Australia contributes f*ck all of anything to human CO2. As noted here many times, we could shut Australia down and it would have no measurable effect on anything (except the quality of life of Australians).

  202. None

    Compare Bill Hayden with Jim Cairns.
    Cairns devoted his life to a lie. Calling bonking Junie ‘a kind of love’ was the least of it.

    Well Hayden confessed he always ticked Catholic on official forms even though he wasn’t officially (and Bramston didn’t ask him about his “Humanism”).

  203. None

    Senile Old Guy
    #2819658, posted on September 19, 2018 at 9:48 am

    I agree with you about Morrison. I disagree with you about Turnbull. He really does believe this shit too.

  204. C.L.

    Kavanaugh lyncher Dianne Feinstein on Ted Kennedy:

  205. Senile Old Guy

    I agree with you about Morrison. I disagree with you about Turnbull. He really does believe this shit too.

    I doubt that Turnbull believes in anything except his own magnificence.

  206. JC

    The top deck of the USS carrier has planes galore including an A-12 – predecessor to the SR-71 (laymen like me can’t tell the difference).

    You used to be able to walk right up and touch it. If you did, did you check out how flimsy the outer skin is? I recall it’s as thin as a modern day coke can.

    The thing was just a flying camera.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle

    @DailyCaller
    [email protected]’s facial expression when hearing Poland might name a military base “Fort Trump” is priceless.

    Fort John Sobieski would be a much better name.

  208. Geriatric Mayfly

    Compare Bill Hayden with Jim Cairns.

    Cairns saw out his days haunting the Camberwell flea market beckoning with his skinny finger one and all, to buy his books full of fiction about Socialisam’s sunlit uplands.

  209. Tel

    I doubt that Turnbull believes in anything except his own magnificence.

    He believes in whatever instructions he gets from his wife’s bridge club.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    Cairns saw out his days haunting the Camberwell flea market beckoning with his skinny finger one and all, to buy his books full of fiction about Socialisam’s sunlit uplands.

    He was on the circuit.
    I seem to remember him at the South Melbourne market as well.
    Sad.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    He believes in whatever instructions he gets from his wife’s bridge club.

    Absolutely untrue.
    The Kitchen Cabinet was Lucy’s Wednesday tennis girls.

  212. Tel

    Absolutely untrue.
    The Kitchen Cabinet was Lucy’s Wednesday tennis girls.

    Dang, you have shown up my ignorance. I didn’t get invites, so I made the story up. Does that qualify me as a journalist?

  213. C.L.

    The Courier Mail reports on last night’s Marriott/Barnaby ‘report’ on the ABC:

    … alleged sexual harassment encounter … When it happened … the alleged incident … The harassment claim, which is alleged to have taken place after a function … I told them what had happened … the distressing ordeal … what allegedly occurred … that incident … allegations of sexual harassment …

    Strange how she never actually says WTF is supposed to have happened.
    And isn’t it interesting how the 7.30 Report provides a forum for those who accuse conservative figures (like Joyce and Pell) to speak about their alleged sexual abuse at the latter’s hands but never sat down with Bill Shorten’s accuser or Tom Ballard’s?

  214. Leigh Lowe

    Dang, you have shown up my ignorance. I didn’t get invites, so I made the story up. Does that qualify me as a journalist?

    The code word is “unnamed sources”.

  215. C.L.

    The New York Times reports that Democrat Party call-girl Christine Blasey Ford is missing in action:

    WASHINGTON — The woman who has accused President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee of sexual assault threw into doubt plans for an extraordinary Senate hearing to air her accusations, charging on Tuesday that some senators have already made up their minds and insisting that the F.B.I. investigate first.

    Speaking through her lawyers, Christine Blasey Ford did not explicitly rule out appearing next Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify along with Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh. But echoing Senate Democrats, she said an investigation should be “the first step” before she is put “on national television to relive this traumatic and harrowing incident.”

    Republicans are unlikely to negotiate an alternative date and could go ahead with the hearing without her or cancel it altogether if Dr. Blasey refuses to appear and move quickly to a vote on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination. They have repeatedly stressed that Monday would be her opportunity to testify, either privately or publicly, and that they then planned to move forward with the confirmation process. They have also rejected the possibility of an F.B.I. investigation.

  216. I have zero sympathy for Republicans whining about process issues re Kavanaugh. They gave Garland no process at all. Suck it up, princesses.

  217. Nick

    Never mind process Monty, let’s apply the standard of vague 35 year old repressed memories to everyone eh?

  218. In monty’s world, no ‘process’ at all is the same as spreading calumnies at the last hurdle when you’ve had notice of them for three months. You’re a clown, monty.

  219. In Republican minds, Garland deserved no hearings at all purely because he was nominated by a Democrat.

    The Republicans deserve everything they are copping right now. And more.

  220. struth

    Good moaning.
    As a matter of national security the UNPM keeps us in the Paris agreement to keep us in good stead with the parasitic pig traders of the pacific!

    If it had anything to do with national security we would be pulling out of Paris in support or our only true ally that can be relied upon, the US.

    I am in agreement with above.
    Morrison is a fighter for the global socialists.
    The difference between him and Mal is that Mal thought he was above arguing for it and just did it anyway.
    Morrison is trying to appeal to those that despised toff Turnbull and therefore is more dangerous.

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