Wednesday Forum: February 20, 2019

Posted on 9:30 am, February 20, 2019 by Sinclair Davidson
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  1. Muddy
    #2941150, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    Hmmm, sounds like the antithesis of a fooferzo, Nick.
    A bit more creativity wouldn’t go astray. Remember, this is the Catictionary, not some dopey online blog that no-one pays any attention to.

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2941151, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    Good to hear from you Delta and to know that you are recovering well from an illness.
    Congratulations on the move too. It sounds like a good time for a gear shift downsizing.

    Hope MV and all others here with health problems for themselves or loved ones find strength too.

  4. JC
    #2941153, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Delta

    Good to hear and look after yourself.

  6. JC
    #2941155, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    Reports that Trump is planning to visit Australia later in 2019. Normally, I’d be embarrassed by the inevitable bullshit on display, but I suspect he’s used to it – the lefties will hate every second of it.

    Can you imagine the virtue signaling and the nonsense we’ll have to go through.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2941156, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    These people are economic and cultural insurgents

    Insurgents or destroyers sounds like a good label.
    I agree that activists is far too friendly.

  8. JC
    #2941157, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    Fleeced
    #2941144, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:03 pm

    Ben Shapiro can be a dick at times, but he comes out with some gems, such as this tweet:

    Stimson loves Shapiro. Ask him.

  9. Fleeced
    #2941158, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    Can you imagine the virtue signaling and the nonsense we’ll have to go through.

    Indeed. But we see that with Trump all the time anyway (just not locally). But we get to see them in pain… True, they will cause a fair bit to the rest of us in the process, but silver linings and all that.

  10. Fleeced
    #2941159, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    Stimson loves Shapiro. Ask him.

    I like Shapiro myself, sometimes… Other times he’s just an annoyingly whiny pretentious jerk who argues with uni students, but still. And I hear his wife’s a doctor.

  11. JC
    #2941160, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Jeez, they seem to be closing in on some cold cases with this stuff now.

    A businessman has been charged with fatally stabbing a Minneapolis woman in 1993 after investigators ran DNA evidence from the murder scene through a genealogy website and obtained his DNA from a discarded napkin. Jerry Westrom, 52, was charged with second-degree murder in the death of 35-year-old Jeanne Ann “Jeanie” Childs.

    The case was reopened in 2015 by a Minneapolis homicide detective and an FBI special agent, who decided to take another look because of advances in DNA testing. Childs had been stabbed multiple times all over her naked body, and blood covered the walls of her bedroom, living room and bathroom, according to a warrant.

    Samples from the scene were sent to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and a private DNA company. The samples were later run through an online genealogy website, which turned up Westrom as a possible suspect.

    Investigators then used the internet to determine where Westrom would be in public places and then secretly trailed him to his daughter’s hockey game in Wisconsin in January. That’s where investigators confiscated a napkin he had used and tossed in the trash.

    Geneology websites gained attention last year after one was used to arrest a suspect in the decades-long hunt for the so-called Golden State Killer in California. “We all learned quite a bit from the Golden State Killer,” Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said, according to CBS Minnesota.

  12. Fleeced
    #2941162, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    Geneology websites…

    Ah, so many people giving themselves up voluntarily to discover their heritage…

    And the thing is, even if a perp doesn’t sign up to these sites, it doesn’t matter – if a cousin has, they can track them down. It’s a Brave New World… can’t say I’m fond of this use of the tech from a privacy angle, but the nerd in me has to admit it’s kind of cool.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2941164, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    Hillary called us deplorables. Destroyers is an alliterative fight back, but they’d probably love it.
    It has programmatic specificity for them. It is exactly what they want to do.
    Daleks is probably better, but too British?
    However, none of this is forging a Catictionary word for them.

    Give us time. It will come.

  14. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2941165, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    Reports that Trump is planning to visit Australia later in 2019.

    where’s Downer going to hide?

  15. egg_
    #2941166, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:39 pm

    fooferzo

    Sounds funky – like when the douche boss has a day orff.

  16. egg_
    #2941168, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    I was thinking of FFZ.

    Urban Dictionary also has Fvck-up Free Zone, not unlike.

  17. None
    #2941169, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Why do you think Julie quit?
    Too painful.

    There’s probably an ambassadorship coming up. When does fatso finish up in London?

  18. egg_
    #2941170, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    Douchetopia

    I’m stealing that one.

  19. egg_
    #2941171, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    Doucheville sounds good, too.

  20. None
    #2941172, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    Delta- I had no idea. But glad to hear the news is good. Best wishes.

  22. Geriatric Mayfly
    #2941174, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:50 pm

    Reports that Trump is planning to visit Australia later in 2019.

    Can the ABC rise to the challenge?

  23. m0nty
    #2941175, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    1. Coal doesn’t cause pollution, you have to dig it up first.
    2. Burning coal in an Australian power station does not cause pollution, as the problem species are all captured during gas cleaning or are at a level which is harmless.
    3. That is not always the case in China, which is why they are clamping down on dirty plants.
    4. Carbon dioxide released when burning coal is not a pollutant. Trees groing near a coal fired power station grow as much as three times faster than trees growing elsewhere. It’d be a funny pollutant that made trees grow better.

    Well that’s just stupid, Bruce. You are pointing at a glass of water and denying that people can drown.

    There is no such thing as clean coal. You can lie about it but that doesn’t make it true.

  24. rickw
    #2941176, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    Movies set in Medieval Europe, first with Africans, now with Asians as well.

    Stupid.

  25. rickw
    #2941178, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:05 pm

    There is no such thing as clean coal. You can lie about it but that doesn’t make it true.

    Name the products of the combustion of coal you fat idiot.

  26. Armadillo
    #2941180, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    Reports that Trump is planning to visit Australia later in 2019.

    If he has any sense, he will avoid Canberra completely. There is likely 10 “Bob Browns” in Parliament now wanting to get their moment of glory.

    He’d be best advised to visit our very own version of “flyover” country.

  27. MatrixTransform
    #2941181, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    You can lie about it but that doesn’t make it true.

    Ah, the Good Sir Knight Exemplar brings us tidings and new fanciful and wonderful tales.

    of course lying by omission whilst typing on a computer made and powered with fossil fuel.

    And where Im typing (on my own PC) it is night and not a puff of wind.

    you can practically smell the Tantalum on his breath

  28. Zyconoclast
    #2941183, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:12 pm

    There’s probably an ambassadorship coming up. When does fatso finish up in London?

    Why not Washington?
    That Fatso has been there longer.
    Also with her donating our cash to the Clintons, it would be closer to her hearts desire.

  29. DrBeauGan
    #2941184, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    There is no such thing as clean coal. You can lie about it but that doesn’t make it true.

    M0nty, burning coal can cause pollution. It did when it was burnt at relatively low temperatures in fire places in London from the nineteenth century until it was banned in the seventies or thenabouts. Pea soupers were real, nobody doubts that.

    But burning coal doesn’t have to cause pollution. If it is done at sufficiently high temperatures and the flues are scrubbed periodically, and if the coal itself is of sufficient quality, no measurable pollution is released.

    Screaming clichés about no such thing as clean coal doesn’t constitute an argument. And makes you sound like a petulant child.

    Which is something you do rather a lot.

  30. Steve trickler
    #2941185, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:22 pm

    Lol!

    I am looking forward to this.



  31. Cpt Seahawks
    #2941186, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    No Notice Audit. Yes folks, at gunpoint they can ruin you if they decide you are a baddie. After ACCC, then comes an ATO thing. It is real. I saw it for the first time today All your family is up for millions if they choose to destroy you. No Notice Audit. Beware

  32. Fat Tony
    #2941187, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    DrBeauGan
    #2941184, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:18 pm
    …..and if the coal itself is of sufficient quality, no measurable pollution is released.

    You got it all wrong, Dr BG – to monty & other fuckwits, CO2 is pollution.

  33. Armadillo
    #2941188, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:26 pm

    Everything mOnts uses in his daily life is created by coal and cheap energy. And yet, he wants it destroyed.

    Welcome to the leftard mindset. What a fucking imbecile.

    The real problem with the left is that like most City kids, they don’t know where milk comes from.

  34. Cpt Seahawks
    #2941189, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    Audit Without Notice. Official term.

  36. m0nty
    #2941191, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:37 pm

    But burning coal doesn’t have to cause pollution. If it is done at sufficiently high temperatures and the flues are scrubbed periodically, and if the coal itself is of sufficient quality, no measurable pollution is released.

    Like I said, lying about it doesn’t make it true.

    You can spread your lies until you are blue in the face, but just look at what Glencore is doing to get Matt Canavan so upset. Even the coal mining companies can see the writing on the wall. Are you too dumb to understand what is happening?

  37. DrBeauGan
    #2941192, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:39 pm

    You got it all wrong, Dr BG – to monty & other fuckwits, CO2 is pollution.

    I expect you’re right, FT, and I can’t say I hold out much hope for m0nty. He’s maintained the pristine ignorance of a ten year old for a while now. Most of us learn at some point that we are massively ignorant about nearly everything, so except on those few subjects where we have a little knowledge, we shut up. M0nty hasn’t got that far. He’s totally clueless about how totally clueless he is.

  38. Bruce in WA
    #2941193, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Jeez, Delta, why didn’t you say something?? Anyway, deepest thoughts and wishes to you for a happy recovery.

  39. Steve trickler
    #2941194, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    CO2 is pollution.

    Dangerous bubbles.



  40. mh
    #2941195, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    Maxine Waters
    ✔
    @RepMaxineWaters
    Jussie is my friend – a very talented & beautiful human being. It is so hurtful that homophobic haters would dare hurt someone so loving and giving. I’m dedicated to finding the culprits and bringing them to justice. Jussie did not deserve to be harmed by anyone!

    Low IQ Maxine thought it was her job to bring his attackers to justice.

    Don’t worry, Maxine. There are these people that are called ‘police’. They found the culprit.

  41. Memoryvault
    #2941196, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    Monty,

    IIRC you have one, or maybe two small children.
    May I humbly suggest your time and efforts would be better employed figuring how you are going to keep them alive and fed for the next fifteen years or so, until they are old enough to look after themselves, and you, assuming you all manage to survive that long.

    Yes, climate IS changing, just not in the direction you think. And no, fluctuating CO2 levels are not the cause, but a result of it. This will all become obvious over the next years.

  42. m0nty
    #2941197, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:51 pm

    Yeah righto MV, new ice age, good one. Spare me the lectures from someone too old to deal with the future.

  44. Memoryvault
    #2941199, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:56 pm

    Fair enough Monty.
    Just don’t ever try and claim you weren’t warned.
    For the record there is no great wisdom in me being able to “predict” a purely cyclical event.

  45. rickw
    #2941200, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:58 pm

    Yeah righto MV, new ice age, good one. Spare me the lectures from someone too old to deal with the future.

    Says the fat fuck who has endless medical issues due to krispy kreme intake.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat
    #2941204, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:02 am

    Bernie Sanders
    @BernieSanders
    I’m running for president, but I cannot do it alone. Because this campaign is not about me, it’s about us. Help us get off to a strong start, be one of the first to make a contribution to our campaign today.

  47. MatrixTransform
    #2941206, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:03 am

    Audit Without Notice.

    Recently I asked the lawyer the question about whether or not disbursements of franked dividends form private companies may also be considered ‘excess franking credits’.

    He referred the question to the senior accounting team.

    The response was along the lines of … “not yet written law” but … franking credits are franking credits.

    So … it would seem that yes, the Labour Party is planning to put their grubby little hand into Main Street’s pocket.

    Just sayin’

  48. sdfc
    #2941208, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:06 am

    Give it way Monty. Steve’s overturned the science of how the planet heats with a video of champagne bubbles. You can’t argue with science like that.

  49. DrBeauGan
    #2941211, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:08 am

    M0nty, there’s a whole book on coal combustion products at science direct. Google it. I am sure you have neither the education nor the intelligence to read it in less than a lifetime, but do yourself a favour and take a brief look at it. It should start you on the long journey of discovering the extent of your ignorance.

    When you begin to find out how little you know, you might acquire the modesty to stop disbursing your ignorance. You will look back on your present conduct and blush with shame that you could make such a fool of yourself.

  50. Stimpson J. Cat
    #2941212, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:11 am

    Patrick Healy
    @patrickhealynyt
    NEWS: Elizabeth Warren backs reparations for black Americans for slavery and discrimination. She follows Kamala Harris’s recent endorsement of idea. ⁦
    @AsteadWesley
    ⁩ notes in his scoop that Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Prez Obama do not support.

  52. DrBeauGan
    #2941218, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:22 am

    Of course there should be reparations for discrimination and slavery. From these should be deducted (as zulu has pointed out) the costs of the civil war, and also the price of an education in English and Western values, and the benefits of living in the US. They then take the balance, if any, less the cost of a one way ticket to Africa. Any part they like. And go.

    I have no doubt that Africa will welcome them.

  53. Fisky
    #2941221, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:27 am

    Oh wow. So much for the Democrats being the party of “gun control”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-reject-push-to-alert-ice-when-illegal-immigrants-fail-firearm-background-checks

    So why are the Dems against gun control in the case of illegal immigrants? Because, the reality is, the Dems’ gun control cause is not actually about stopping gun use at all, especially illegal guns, but rather disarming White conservatives. That’s 100% of their concern about the gun issue – taking the guns off White proles who don’t vote Democrat.

  55. bespoke
    #2941287, posted on February 23, 2019 at 8:11 am

    MatrixTransform
    #2941190, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    That was a really good vid.

  56. areff
    #2941499, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    You gotta laugh. Fairfax work-experience kiddies do it again. $280,000 defo judgment this time

    http://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2019/2019fca0185/summary/2019fca0185-summary

    You know, for the money they’ve paid Joe Hockey, Chris Gale, legions of lawyers and all the other defo payout recipients, they could have hired a couple of subs well versed in libel-free circumlocutions.

  57. areff
    #2941504, posted on February 23, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    From the judgment:

    As for the first three imputations, a number of features of the article compelled the finding that it went beyond simply conveying a suspicion that Dr Chau had bribed, or conspired to bribe, Mr Ashe. Rather, by a combination of disparagement, insinuation and suggestion, it effectively imputed guilt. The following features of the article were particularly significant in that regard.

    First, as a matter of first impression, the general tone and tenor of the article as a whole is rather derisive and disparaging, if not, at times, sneering and contemptuous, towards Dr Chau. That tone flows from the sensational and hyperbolic language at times employed, as well as from some rather gratuitous barbs and insinuations; some subtle, others not so.

    Second, the article immediately commences with the implicit assertion that Dr Chau was implicated in the bribery by insinuating that he was conscious of his guilt in that regard. Why else might he never get to live in the “$70 million Vaucluse mansion” which he had supposedly bought “sight unseen”, but instead “bunker down” in China “beyond the reach of extradition treaties”? The reference to unnamed officials supposedly holding this view lent some credence to the suggestion that Dr Chau might remain in China to avoid extradition.

    The suggestion of Dr Chau’s consciousness of guilt was further highlighted by the equally damaging assertion that certain “offending web pages” had been “scrubbed from cyberspace” after the filing of the Complaint. The “offending web pages” were said to have been those on “Chau’s Kingold company website” which “trumpeted” Mr Ashe’s attendance at “Chau’s resort”. The hyperbolic and derisive language, in the context of the entire article, clearly suggested that the “scrubbing” was an attempt by Dr Chau to conceal apparently damning evidence of his connection with Mr Ashe and the supposed purpose of the bribe.

    Third, while Dr Chau’s apparent response to, or denial of, some aspects of the allegations are referred to at various parts of the articles, the manner in which they are disaggregated and inserted in the narrative undermines their effect and was likely to cause an ordinary reader to be dismissive and sceptical about them. There is a general tone of incredulity in relation to the denials.

    A couple of decent subs, not to mention a backbench with at least one grownup, would never have let the story go to press with these glaring liabilities.

  58. areff
    #2941505, posted on February 23, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    Just tried to post a section of the judgment against Fairfax. Filter gobbled it. Grrrrrrrrr.

    Read the judgment at the link above and be amazed that a large media organisation could have been so profoundly, institutionally stupid.

  59. areff
    #2941512, posted on February 23, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    Perhaps worth noting: the Fairfax author, John Garnaut, is the son of Ross Garnaut.

    It seems being free and easy with outrageous claims is in the genes.

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