Wednesday Forum: March 27, 2019

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  1. Zatara

    Live Trump rally in Michigan streams here. He is due on the hour.

    The crowds were waiting outside pre-dawn for a spot in the arena and are already getting feisty.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    This time tomorrow it will be nine o’clock on a Saturday, and I predict the regular crowd will shuffle in.
    Speaking of regulars, where’s mOnster with his update on flipped Mueller witnesses.

  3. Arky

    Now Paul is a real estate novelist
    Who never had time for a wife
    And he’s talkin’ with Davy, who’s still in the Navy
    And probably will be for life

    ..
    Did Billy Joel know it was a gay bar?

  4. Zyconoclast

    Conservationists push to save critically endangered regent honeyeater’s only known breeding site from development

    Mr Roderick said concern about habitat loss in the HEZ had elevated recently with the site flagged for a coal-fired power plant proposal.

    “We are almost relying on the Federal Government to step in and use the national threatened species legislation to protect this site.

    Habitat also crucial to critically endangered swift parrot and other species

    “The area is also home to an unprecedented number of threatened species- the total count of threatened flora and fauna, and threatened ecological communities is up into the mid 40s.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/push-to-protect-critically-endangered-regent-honeyeaters/10934296?pfmredir=sm

  5. Arky

    And the manager gives me a smile

    ..
    Gay.

  6. Mother Lode

    The libs never learn. Do as the Liars party does. Don’t hit or abuse much less slot last those minor parties at the extreme left fringe like the fascist Greens.

    What kind of insane chutzpah would convince the Libs that people who had abandoned them would come back if told to do so by the very people they had deliberately abandoned.

    They truly do not understand the voters. Not a frickin’ clue.

    Labor understands them better, and cynically uses this knowledge to their own benefit and typically to the voters detriment – it is not that they hate the voters per se, as much as they really don’t give a toss about them: If they believed that a healthy economy would be the surest way to garner power for themselves they would be all over sensible economic management.

  7. Arky

    Now John at the bar is a friend of mine
    He gets me my drinks for free

    ..
    Because he wants to root you.
    Gay.

  8. Arky

    And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar

    ..
    Not sure what that means, some kind of gay double entendre.

  9. .

    [OH DEAR GOD. POOR OLD NUMBERS RABBITING ON WITH UTTER CRAP AGAIN, TO WIT THE GOVERNMENT CAN BUILD UTOPIA….]

    The epidemic of gun deaths in the USA is a product of an abuse of the second amendment.

    Err, many of these deaths are intentionally self inflicted (suicide) [presumably the left is against prohibition on euthanasia and the al right want a “better gene pool”] and another substantial fraction is due to black on black violence re: the war on drugs. Then you must consider how many mass shootings are done by the mentally ill and terrorists. The trend since the 1970s to let the mentally ill roam free was an epic mistake.

    Then if you take out the black on black violence and suicides, the level of gun violence in the US is a ctually remarkably low. Go to a gun loving state, good old classically liberal and old school GOP with SANE Democrats like New Hampshire and the crime rate overall, murder rate and gun crime is low. It would rank as one of if not the safest places to live on the planet.

  10. Elle

    You are an absolute hoot, Arky.
    I can’t stop laughing 😂🤣

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sitting around a table might look good for the cameras. Stopping arms coming in via Gaza is more productive. Of course, Israel could cut off the water supply, electricity and food/medicine to Gaza any time they want. As it turns out, they aren’t that evil.

    Visiting Israel is a very worthwhile thing to do. Book a tour, Stimpy… till then, silence is golden.

    Tried to access the link to the Ashkenazi genetic hoo haa. No luck. But a cursory glance at the headline which was available shows it relates only the prevalence of a specific genetic marker, not of the actual population incidence of schizophrenia or allied expressions. So as I said, Stimps, not much there to go on. More interesting is the proven narrow genetic pool of Ashkenazi people resulting in the proven high incidence of some other genetic disorders, and also of some extremely high intelligence levels in this population (both genetic selection and social factors claimed as historic drivers for this). I wouldn’t get too excited about any of this if I was you. That said though, it does raise for me the interesting speculation that high intelligence levels and a tendency towards schizophrenic breaks may be inter-related somehow. As you know though the genetics and other possible aetiologies of ‘schizophrenia’ (whatever that or ‘schizo-affective disorder’ really means) is a tough knot to disentangle.

    Have a nice day, Stimpy. Every day is a gift.

  12. Farmer Gez

    And the microphone smells like a beer.

    Order a beer at Al Jazeera and you’ll get Fifty Lashes.

  13. Arky

    You’re a sick woman Elle!

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Now Paul is a real estate novelist
    Who never had time for a wife
    And he’s talkin’ with Davy, who’s still in the Navy
    And probably will be for life

    ..
    Did Billy Joel know it was a gay bar?

    Probably pretty angry 40 years on to find that out.
    And also realising that “chum” rhymes with “bum”, and “rock” rhymes with …
    Gosh, is that the time?

  15. .

    monster must acknowledge my SUPREME VICTORY in predicting the Mueller probe would come to naught for Mr Trump’s fate, which is still safe and free.

  16. Bespoke:

    That’s a stretch inst it. Like Antifa’s justification for hitting people or thought crime.

    I don’t think it’s a stretch – it has real world implications, and equating it to Antifa or thought crime is silly.
    We have a problem. The problem is that Islam is incompatible with our society.
    We can deal with this problem by:
    1. Ignoring it – that ain’t working.
    2. Making excuses for the problem makers – makes the problem worse.
    3. Using methods to deal with the problem that don’t work but make us feel as if we are dealing with the issue.
    4. Dealing with the problem in a way history shows us will work.

    There may be other choices. Do you care to name them?

  17. .

    calli, no more cryptic references to Jilly Boel ditties, thanks. My goodness he was an excruciating talentless cockhead.

    At least give Allentown some credit, they had a dude playing METAL PIPE after all.

  18. .

    From elsewhere today:

    We need to build a $150,000 Campaign War Chest to ensure a strong campaign, showing Australians that there’s a better way when they vote for Australian Conservatives senators like me who will stand up for their values and rights.

    So you see why if the AC can only aim for such a small amount, why the major parties cartel shit themselves when PHON was on the verge of getting 20 million to campaign with.

    There will be no competition. The government does not like competition.

  19. Makka

    numbnuts calls gun deaths in the US an epidemic. As usual, the nasho Marxist simply throws out leftist propaganda as fact. But he’s lying of course. Sure the leftist rags he peruses will no doubt be wailing of another “crisis” for people to demand their nanny Govt address, but what of the facts?

    Suicides account for 60 percent of the country’s gun deaths.

    This report’s main findings are explained below:

    Murder: The 2018 murder rate in these cities is projected to be 7.6 percent lower than last year. This estimate is based on data from 29 of the nation’s 30 largest cities. This murder rate is expected to be approximately equal to 2015’s rate, near the bottom of the historic post-1990 decline. Especially sharp declines appear in San Francisco (-35.0 percent), Chicago (-23.2 percent), and Baltimore (-20.9 percent). These estimates are based on preliminary data, but if they hold, the number of murders in Chicago could fall by year’s end to the lowest since 2015. In Baltimore, homicides could drop to the lowest since 2014. While the city’s murder rate remains high, this would mark a significant reversal of the past two years’ increases.

    While the overall murder rate is estimated to decline this year in these cities, a few cities are projected to experience increases. For example, Washington, D.C.’s murder rate is expected to rise 34.9 percent. Several cities with relatively low murder rates are also seeing increases, such as Austin (rising by roughly 30 percent). Since the city has relatively few murders, any increase may appear large in percentage terms.

    Overall Crime: At the time of publication, full crime data — covering all Part I index crimes tracked by the FBI — were only available from 19 of the 30 largest cities. (Past Brennan Center reports included, on average, 21 cities.) In these cities, the overall crime rate for 2018 is projected to decrease by 2.9 percent, essentially holding stable. If this estimate holds, this group of cities will experience the lowest crime rate this year since at least 1990. These findings will be updated with new data when available.

    Epidemic? What epidemic?

    And if you want to dig a little deeper;

    https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-death-rate-by-raceethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&selectedDistributions=white–black&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

  20. Elle

    I like Billy Joel. I have never viewed that song in the way you are interpreting it. Makes sense though.

  21. Boambee John

    “Zatara
    #2973246, posted on March 29, 2019 at 6:20 am
    EU passes resolution calling on member states to declassify their colonial archives and consider “some form of reparations” for crimes of the colonial era

    “The resolution encourages EU institutions and member states to address and rectify past injustices and crimes against humanity, perpetrated in the name of European colonialism. These historic crimes still have present day negative consequences for people of African descent, MEPs claim.

    It calls on the European commission to fund programes to support people of African descent in the EU’s next seven-year budget and set up a dedicated team to focus on “Afrophobia

    The resolution also clearly endorses action regarding reparations made to Afro-Europeans for “crimes against humanity during European colonialism.”

    Prediction – this will not end well.”

    Two points.

    First, how much “foreign aid” has gone to Africa from Europe in the last 50 years? How much reparations is enough?

    Second, forced reparations worked so well after Versailles, didn’t they?

  22. Arky

    Poor old Billy Joel.
    Working every weekend at a gay bar without a clue and thinking everyone there was smiling at him and being nice and buying him drinks because he was talented.

  23. .

    Exactly what I was talking about Makka. If they were killing themselves on the roads, numbers would ban cars and trucks.

    Of course too, the remainder of most gun related deaths, in black on black crime mostly from the war on drugs, is occurring in economically depressed areas ruled over as fiefdoms by the left.

    Place that look like the second world with crumbling buildings all around.

  24. lotocoti

    Not sure what that means …

    Cockney rhyming slang.
    Bread = bread stick= —-
    Jar= glass jar = —

  25. Shy Ted

    Big storm clouds of colour on the horizon and despite claims of it never happening again it really does look like it’s going to rain. Terrible start to the day – rechargeable battery in radio gave up 10 minutes into morning walk. I can’t get riled up about things til I’ve had the morning dose of RN Breakfast bollocks. Watched SBS show from the other night – The Pink House, Australia’ Oldest Brothel and all I could think was “ohhhhhhhh, that’s where she got to.” Wrote another letter to the local paper about council spending. This one is titled “$53,000 for half a tin shed!?” But I did manage to book next trip without flying Qantas so maybe things will improve.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greens’ plan to save world would ‘destroy’ Australia

    EXCLUSIVE
    Joe Kelly
    Political Reporter
    @joekellyoz
    12:00AM March 29, 2019
    Comments

    The Greens, accused by Scott Morrison of posing a “real serious danger to Australia”, will today ­reveal plans to reduce military spending to bolster the foreign aid budget, fight climate change and promote gender equity.

    Under pressure from the Prime Minister and Coalition MPs over its radical social, security and environmental agenda, Greens leader Richard Di Natale will today launch the party’s policy on “peace and demilitarisation”.

    Ahead of a speech today at the Development Policy Institute in Canberra, Senator Di Natale launched an attack on the major parties, accusing them of turning Australia into “one of the world’s largest arms dealers”.

    The Greens extreme plan would see Australia junk the US alliance, with Senator Di Natale arguing it should be renegotiated in the age of Donald Trump.

    He told The Australian yesterday defence funding should be ­redirected to lift the aid budget to achieve the target of 0.7 per cent of gross national income by 2030.

    That would result in Australia walking away from the goal of lifting defence spending to 2 per cent of GDP by 2020-21.

    Mr Morrison yesterday sought to challenge Bill Shorten over Labor’s relationship with the Greens after moving to defuse the attack against the government over where it would place One ­Nation on Liberal how-to-vote cards.

    “The Greens have opposed us on almost every element of ­national security legislation we have put into this parliament,” he said. “They have actively worked against the safety of Australians. So I don’t think there’s any comfort in the Greens’ position either.

    “There’s a lot of parties who have a lot of extreme positions.’’

    The Greens policy also calls for the closure of all foreign military bases in Australia, the introduction of powers ensuring parliament has the final say on when we go to war and the establishment of an independent body to monitor the aid budget.

    “Australians want our nation to spread peace and prosperity not weapons and war,” Senator Di ­Natale told The Australian.

    From the Oz. Does nothing to alter my considered opinion that the Greens are just the new Fascists, thinly disguised. Do they still want to bring back death duties?

  27. Zatara

    First, how much “foreign aid” has gone to Africa from Europe in the last 50 years? How much reparations is enough?

    Boambee John

    Indeed. And consider how much was spent building roads, bridges, piers, rail systems, dams, airports, security services, health systems, drilling wells, etc.

    Oh, and the aqueducts.

  28. Eyrie

    “Given the number of US-led forces that remained in Germany, Japan, etcetera, after victory, who in their right mind would think Iraq could do it on their own?”
    They were left there to contain communism.
    Iraq should have been: Defeat Army. Kill Saddam. Find most competent general. Put him in charge of country. Warn him to not bother neighbours or “we’ll be back – you won’t like it”. Leave.

  29. Makka

    Iraq should have been: Defeat Army. Kill Saddam. Find most competent general. Put him in charge of country. Warn him to not bother neighbours or “we’ll be back – you won’t like it”. Leave.

    While you have a CIA as a law unto itself, with it’s primary objective generating black cash for itself by fomenting troubles any where, that will never work.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The trend since the 1970s to let the mentally ill roam free was an epic mistake.

    The results of that have been catastrophic and have caused so much individual and familial misery. The young fellow hanging out self-neglecting and homeless, as mentioned above by hzhousewife, is a case in point at the intersection of autism spectrum disorders, ‘mental illness’ and drug abuse.

    The completely stupid so-called counter-cultural ideologies of the 60’s and 70’s have had some godawful social consequences: unregulated immigration, political fragmentation, de-Christianization, homelessness, hedonistic overkill, feminazism, single and serial parenting, permissive child-rearing, educational fantasizing and the extremes of cultural annihilation and self-blame we are currently seeing in their end-stages of ‘diversity’ and ‘victim’ culture. This is all enhanced by anti-Colonialism as a stick to beat ourselves up with on the international stage, a stick happily being enjoined by mendacious others to put an end finally to the civilizational achievements of the West.

    Aaargh. When you put it all down, it’s a horrible load of ordure. We must start shoveling it out.

  31. struth

    Billy Joel is an awesome entertainer and saying any different is hate speech.

    I’m triggered.
    I’m offended.

    Seriously though, he sings that song in the Key of C.
    He goes up on octave when singing certain parts of it, its actually quite high, but he still sings it with a manly tone.
    A great singer.
    Singing is practice.
    When I first started playing music professionally (and was a spunk), I couldn’t do it in that key.
    Now I can easily sing it in the same key, I’m older and look like shit in comparison.
    If I could do then, what I can do now, I would have been laughing.
    Life is just ridiculous.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Should have added welfarism to that litany of woes.

    I won’t blame the counter-culturalists for technological changes that have resulted in fewer jobs for the less capable in our societies, but that too, along with a loss in the pride of working, has allowed the ideals of communism to once more seem attractive.

  33. struth

    Numbers knows when to f off.
    Whenever he gets asked a question.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Di Natale wants to:

    Slash the ability of Australians to defend themselves to ribbons.
    Bring ISIS fighters back to Australia to pat their heads.
    Encourage boys to be girls and vice versa.
    Throw more taxpayer dollars at foreign tinpot dictators to fund their medal collections.
    Tax the dead.
    ‘Fight’ global cooling/warming/change/uncertainty.
    Ensure the lives of sparrows and lizards are more important than the elderly, freezing to death in their homes because turbines won’t work and are exorbitant when they do.

    To quote the man in Reservoir Dogs, ‘I just want to say this out loud, to get it right in my head…… that’s right, that’s correct, that’s your story?’

    Every Greens ‘politician’ and supporter should be dragged into the street and publicly shot. The nation demands it. Treason of the highest order.

    And yes, I’m volunteering.

  35. cohenite

    We need a second amendment like we need a national hole in the head.
    The epidemic of gun deaths in the USA is a product of an abuse of the second amendment.

    More lies from the resident troll who has several holes in his pointy little head.

    As has been pointed out numerous times the US doesn’t have a gun problem, it has an ethnic problem with the vast majority of gun crime committed by blacks and Hispanics; when their rate of gun crime is removed the US gun crime stats come down to almost the Australian level.

    Australian gun crime rates fell after Port Arthur but the number of gun owners greatly increased. let me repeat; Australia has an increasing rate of gun ownership but a falling rate of gun crime except in the muslim dominated parts of Sydney and melbournistan.

    NSW’s self defence laws in SS 418 – 421 of the CA 1900 provide very strong self defence laws; these are mirrored in other states; they differ from the 2nd Amendment however because they do not allow the use of guns for self defence. This is ironic because Australian police have no duty of care to stop any citizen being affected by crime: I repeat police have no obligation to stop people being subject to criminality. This is well established. People are on their own in respect of self defence yet we cannot use a weapon to self defend. It’s unreasonable which is why cucks like numbers support it.

  36. Zatara

    Iraq should have been: Defeat Army. Kill Saddam. Find most competent general. Put him in charge of country. Warn him to not bother neighbours or “we’ll be back – you won’t like it”. Leave.

    That was the plan the military came up with and moved to carry out. But a certain colossal asshole named Rumsfeld got involved, cut the force list for the assault by about 1/4, and demanded that the Iraqi army be disbanded. What happened next was as predictable as it was tragic to anyone with half a brain.

    Your recipe was also the one the US forces wanted for Afghanistan. The Taliban and al Qaeda were beaten down to their knees by Feb/Mar 2002. The military wanted to hand it off to the Afghan semi-secular warlords but the political morons again insisted on trying to reform Afg into a western style democracy, giving the insurgents plenty of time and breathing room to regroup.

  37. struth

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.
    Any of you got an opinion?

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As well as changing technologies, a poorly managed globalism in trade has also negatively affected previously industrialized Nation states with regard to available jobs, as the Trump phenomenon shows.

  39. .

    The Greens policy also calls for the closure of all foreign military bases in Australia, the introduction of powers ensuring parliament has the final say on when we go to war and the establishment of an independent body to monitor the aid budget.

    That is what the US “has”.

    Will the Greens on the other hand acquire nukes and a fleet of drones?

    Funny how the left want peace and demilitarisation whenever a communist regime is on the ascent.

    I say we should invest in the upcoming (?) RQ-180 and some W88’s and W84’s/ALCM/Tomahawks.

    That kind of technology could make the defence budget actually shrink whilst making us far less prone to an actual attack by a foreign power.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    struth,

    What is this ‘singing in key’ that you speak of?

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.

    I once listened to someone’s LP of his. I recall liking it. But I was very young and stupid then. 🙂

  42. struth

    You should get progressively better looking and younger as you head toward death.
    I mean you start and end soiling yourself.
    All men should go out of this world in the zenith of their studliness, while on the vinegar stroke with a gorgeous Amazonian blonde, shouting eureka.

  43. .

    cohenite
    #2973385, posted on March 29, 2019 at 10:05 am

    Very well said. Destroys the left’s narrative on guns. Perhaps why PHON, LDP, SFF are getting so many votes now. People are fed up with the major party cartel that is influenced by “one man and a xerox” operations like Harold Scruby, Gun Control Coalition and “Sleeping Midgets”.

  44. Stimpson J. Cat

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.
    Any of you got an opinion?

    I’m running on empty sorry.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I say we should invest in the upcoming (?) RQ-180 and some W88’s and W84’s/ALCM/Tomahawks.
    That kind of technology could make the defence budget actually shrink whilst making us far less prone to an actual attack by a foreign power.

    The t-shirt I bought in Israel makes no bones about their reliance on high tech weaponry as well as sheer military grunt. Proud to carry such an arsenal on my bozooms.

  46. Makka

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.

    Great talent and awesome guitar work. He made The Eagles at the start.

  47. struth

    struth,

    What is this ‘singing in key’ that you speak of?

    Bloody hell, Black ball, even digeridoos have keys.

    You can sing in key largo.
    You can sing in key west
    but the key for your voice, is the key that is best.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m running on empty sorry.

    Yes, yes, Stimpy, that was the song. It struck a chord.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    I demand Di Natale and the rest of his (fascist, fought with the Axis in WW2) family pay reparations to the people of Tunisia for the wrongs done in the First, Second and Third Punic Wars.

  50. struth

    Great talent and awesome guitar work. He made The Eagles at the start.

    He wrote Take it Easy for them, but it sounds like I’m not telling you something you didn’t already know.

  51. Elle

    My favourite Jackson Browne song.
    These Days.

  52. Snoopy

    I’m going to be a happy idiot
    And struggle for the legal tender
    Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
    To the heart and the soul of the spender
    And believe in whatever may lie
    In those things that money can buy
    Thought true love could have been a contender
    Are you there?
    Say a prayer for the pretender
    Who started out so young and strong
    Only to surrender

  53. mh

    One of the world’s great mysteries is how Billy Joel picked up such a great piece of minge.

    I just noticed this story

    Christie Brinkley says Trump tried to woo her while married to Ivana

    https://pagesix.com/2018/02/05/christie-brinkley-says-trump-tried-to-woo-her-while-married-to-ivana/

  54. .

    The whole Scientology thing could really suffer if Cruise jumps ship…wonder if the Sea Org would do a SAR mission?

  55. Mater

    Iraq should have been: Defeat Army. Kill Saddam. Find most competent general. Put him in charge of country. Warn him to not bother neighbours or “we’ll be back – you won’t like it”. Leave.

    You’d have to find a General who was both popular and nonsectarian…and probably a little bit heavy handed. The reason Iraq reverted to complete shit was, ironically, that ever present Shia-Sunni feud. Prime Minister Maliki (Shia) reverted to old ways and started a campaign of persecution against Sunni tribes and political figures…and off it went again. That drew in players from outside who were sympathetic to one side or the other.

    But hey, Islam is Peace and Diversity is Harmony!

  56. Stimpson J. Cat

    Book a tour, Stimpy… till then, silence is golden.

    You need to visit a place to form an opinion on it and to determine it’s properties and whether it is working correctly or not?
    How quaint.
    Do Heaven or Mars or a black hole please.

  57. Suicides account for 60 percent of the country’s gun deaths.

    A comparison of weapon related suicides between the USA and Australia is telling –
    USA – 7.32 per 100000.
    Australia – .8 per 100000.
    That’s a factor of 9.

    The critical factor is weapon prevalence.
    Suicide, whether planned or impulsive, is greatly facilitated by accessibility of weapons.
    Remove that access, and you lower the rate.

    Epidemic? What epidemic?

    Let’s look at a different kind of epidemic, say measles, in the USA.
    There have been 11 measles deaths since 2000 and at 8 measles deaths since 2005.
    In 1960, three years before the first measles vaccine was put on the market in the U.S., there were about 442,000 reported measles cases and 380 related deaths.
    Vaccination has pretty much eliminated the epidemic.
    That’s a rational solution to a public health problem.
    30000+ Americans are killed by firearms annually.
    Firearms kill far more people in the USA than measles ever did, but there is nobody making money out of measles, and no arcane references to vaccination in the US constitution.
    Ethnicity, geography and crime rates are red herrings. It’s a very simple problem (prevalence) with a pretty simple solution (regulation). Fewer weapons means fewer fatalities, whether they’re homicides, suicides, or accidental deaths.
    Bottom line is, if the Yanks want to top themselves or shoot each other, that’s their business, but introducing that kind of public health problem in this country would be madness.

  58. Makka

    He wrote Take it Easy for them,

    “Tender is the Night ” is JB at his best IMO.

  59. Zatara

    Christie Brinkley says Trump tried to woo her while married to Ivana

    I think Christy doesn’t know what “woo” means.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Actually, I’ve changed my mind.

    Bring the misunderstood ISIS boys back from the front.

    After they’ve been hung, drawn and quartered, their heads can be placed on pikes next to the roads leading to our cities, and the limbs sent to the four corners of the country (or Lakemba, Bankstown, Preston and Broadmeadows) as a warning.

    When you think about it, the Middle Ages had a lot going for it.

  61. Black Ball:

    FMD Lime scooters are about to pollute Melbourne streets. Is there no end to the stupidity?

    No there isn’t.

  62. Snoopy

    You’d have to find a General who was both popular and nonsectarian…and probably a little bit heavy handed.

    Comical Ali? Not Shia or Sunni.

  63. Zatara

    Bottom line is, if the Yanks want to top themselves or shoot each other, that’s their business

    Then why don’t you shut the f*ck up about it?

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You should get progressively better looking and younger as you head toward death.

    I am working on it, Struth. Lucky that Hairy has some funds to back it up. Blonding up today.
    And cut out the ‘Amazonian’ with reference to blondes. An Amazon would freak Hairy out.
    Us femmes petites can still pack quite a punch in our own ways. 🙂

  65. Tom

    Trump on stage. Someone supplied the YouTube link on the last page of the OP.

  66. .

    I ask those who know more what would happen in the Middle East if:

    1. The Brits gave Arabia/Sheriff of Medina to the Hashems, not the ibn Saud?
    2. Syria, Iraq and Jordan could unite as one Sunni Arab country as “Assyria”, with a Christian minority?
    3. Israel gave the West Bank back to Jordan/”Assyria” and the Gaza Strip to Egypt?
    4. Israel otherwise annexed and incorporated each inch of land they ever conquered.
    5. Re 2., they excised out the Kurds and Shia regions which go to Turkey, Kurdistan or a large or small “Iraq” of marsh Arabs or marsh Arabs and Kurds?
    6. Turkey was punished more after WWI with territorial losses?

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Ethnicity, crime rates and geography are red herrings’

    And another day’s whack-a-mole begins.

  68. Makka

    Remove that access, and you lower the rate.

    Rubbish. That is conjecture from a biased Marxist. You having nothing to support that.

    Let’s look at a different kind of epidemic, say measles, in the USA.

    Ok so you have nothing. Measles isn’t an epidemic.

    But it is on the rise. Why? Because leftard Marxist airheads like you insist on open borders allowing all manner of miscreants uncontrolled entry on benefits , importing measles, TB and all manner of preventable diseases. Leftists like you are the fkn epidemic we need to rid ourselves of , not measles,

  69. Rafiki redux

    Numbers at 8.53. You may be correct that the taping does not raise legal issues in Australia. But what of the intrusion into privacy? Much more complex of course. A ‘privacy commissioner’ might have jurisdiction, and Hanson might seek common law remedies.

  70. The Greens policy also calls for the closure of all foreign military bases in Australia,

    This was exactly the same policy that the Israelis had, until the opening of an air defence facility at Mashabim in the Negev desert in September 2017. It houses about 20 USAF personnel.

  71. .

    The critical factor is weapon prevalence.

    No it’s not, even Fatty Moore points this out, Canada actually has a higher prevalence of long arms but has less gun crime.

    How many mass shootings involve the use of a handgun? Very few, if you take out nutters like Nidal Hassan Malik.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do Heaven or Mars or a black hole please.

    One day a black hole with disappear me, nothing surer, Stimpy. Bad luck till then. 🙂
    Home’s heaven enough for me, and Mars is far too hot and dry for my Nordic complexion. I still reckon a visit to Israel would inform you better than some of your current trolling, sorry, reading.

  73. Rubbish. That is conjecture from a biased Marxist. You having nothing to support that.

    Not conjecture, researched fact –
    Results: US residents of all ages and both sexes are more likely to die from suicide when they live in areas where more households contain firearms. A positive and significant association exists between levels of household firearm ownership and rates of firearm and overall suicide; rates of nonfirearm suicide were not associated with levels of household firearm ownership.
    Conclusion: Household firearm ownership levels are strongly associated with higher rates of suicide, consistent with the hypothesis that the availability of lethal means increases the rate of completed suicide.
    (Household Firearm Ownership and Rates of Suicide Across the 50 United States
    Miller, Matthew MD, ScD; Lippmann, Steven J. BS; Azrael, Deborah PhD; Hemenway, David PhD
    The Journal of Trauma: Injury, Infection, and Critical Care: April 2007 – Volume 62 – Issue 4 – p 1029-1035)

    And I’m not a Marxist.

  74. .

    No, you’re a Marxist-Leninist!

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But it is on the rise. Why?

    Because loony green leftards refuse to immunize their children and herd immunity breaks down.
    That’s why, plus importing unvaccinated adults and children, and people who actually have measles.

  76. struth

    I have a group of young people who are just awesome kids who seem to follow me around to gigs.

    The kids “These days” ………are into retro.
    As the generations pass, the kids actually come down to hear music they have never heard before.

    I’m like music history to them.
    The vinyl record of live music.
    For example.
    I did a slow acoustic version of Mad World.
    They sang along to prove they knew it.
    I pick out what they may half know but maybe not.
    Jackson Browne will be played the next gig.

    They like Chris Stapleton and some new stuff, but unlike years past, when good songs like Sweet Home Alabama were probably the reason for a few musician suicides having played them one million times too often,
    now the audiences are sick of that as well.

    Pub bands knew for many years, you waited until enough grog was consumed and then you did something like brown eyed girl to get the girls up dancing and the night was away.
    Those days are gone around here anyway.
    I play originals and the young ones like to hear stuff they may not have heard.
    To me, that is awesome.
    They are great young people, and a real interest in music.
    If I was doing a Cat Stevens song and these young guys and girls were in the pub, I wouldn’t do Wild World, I would do Hard headed Woman, or something more obscure, even Sad Lisa.
    And they would love it.

    The reason I say this, is we owe our youth so much.
    They are great and if they aren’t it’s our fault, by letting people like numbers at them.
    I’m now 52, and to still have young ones coming to see you, for the music, and not the meat market you’ve provided means they give more back than they’ll ever know.
    The decency of my son and even his slightly misdirected fiancé is a beautiful thing to behold and be fucked if I’m going to let people like SNIFFY take their country down.

  77. Tom

    And I’m not a Marxist.

    Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha!!!

  78. Makka

    dotty,
    The Arabs would find a way to FUBAR the place. It’s in their DNA. Go to any coffee house in the ME and you’ll see how the local Arabs handle themselves. Coffee, cigarettes, 2 hours sleep a night and centuries of in-breeding fuelled by a religion promoting violence, victimhood and perpetual hatred. The place is fked and always will be.

  79. Ok so you have nothing. Measles isn’t an epidemic.
    But it is on the rise. Why?

    Because of the rise of the Anti-Vaxers movement.
    These groups have proliferated as the anti-vaccination movement has taken hold, making it easier for the disease to spread. Researchers have found “pockets of vaccine resistance” in 12 out of 18 states that allow non-medical exemptions for schoolchildren. This means that anti-vaxxers pose a threat that extends well beyond their ranks: When the measles vaccination rate dips below 95 percent, it compromises herd immunity, which keeps the disease from spreading and protects those few people who cannot get vaccinated: young infants, the elderly, and immunocompromised adults.

  80. .

    If the left are FOR euthanasia, then what argument do they have against a painless and humane method of suicide, let alone funding crap like suicide hotlines?

    Household firearm ownership levels are strongly associated with higher rates of suicide, consistent with the hypothesis that the availability of lethal means increases the rate of completed suicide.

    No the method just changes, that conclusion is a whopper of a non-sequitur. People don’t off themselves on a whim, nor can you change their mind once they have made the decision.

  81. Snoopy

    And I’m not a Marxist.

    Maoist. Sheesh! Get it right, people.

  82. Old School Conservative

    From The Oz’s review of comedy show Get Krack!n on ABC:

    …the show, which is littered with the f-word and the c-word, went even further this week, featuring: “the flaccid penis, bloody menstrual cup and fully dilated cervix”. It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    The “epic” finale of Get Krack!n, the ABC’s at times brilliant but always brutal satirical take on mindless breakfast television, ditched the comedy to deliver a searing monologue on racism that left viewers speechless. Writer Benjamin Law described it as “genius”

    We are in a race to the bottom. The ABC is winning the race. This load of turgid rubbish out-bottoms MAFS.

  83. Shy Ted

    “And the waitress is practicing politics” – AOC! Coincidence or premonition? Anyway, thanks to Billy Joel’ Piano Man for inspiring today’ strange but true tale. When I came to Oz in 1986 I was living at Rozelle, a Sydney suburb next to Balmain. I didn’t know that 75% of my colleagues to be were gay, I just thought “the Aussie men, they’re really friendly”. They told me to meet them at a local hotel at 8 and just to come inside and find them, which I did. The first room was like a very dark disco. Got my first ever cold beer and began to try and look through the gloom. Had no idea what the Sydney Mardi Gras was but the hotel patrons were my first introduction to it. Took me a few minutes to cotton on and made a hasty retreat to what was the piano bar where a Bobby Crush type piano guy played tunes while a couple of brawny truckie types danced slowly together. “Look at you, you’re new around here, aren’t you?” said a seductive female voice behind me. A moment after turning round I was thinking that maybe the owner of the seductive voice was not necessarily female so I tried to skull my beer but it was just too cold so I popped it on the bar and left. Outside were my colleagues who shouted, “welcome to Australia. We just needed to know if you were gay or not”. A good laugh was had by all and they were fun people and pure hedonists. Female colleagues were 75% Benny Wong types and particularly unpleasant characters who tolerated the gays and loathed the straihgts. Fell in love with what seemed like the only straight woman in Sydney after a couple of weeks and moved away after a few months but that first night was the only time in my life when I haven’t finished a beer. Strange but true.

  84. .

    …the show, which is littered with the f-word and the c-word, went even further this week, featuring: “the flaccid penis, bloody menstrual cup and fully dilated cervix”. It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    Meh. I can tell far more filthy and/or offensive jokes.

  85. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Australia’s democracy has become more fragile because of the normalisation of hate speech and extremist views in parliament, senior Labor figure Penny Wong says.

    The only thing making democracy fragile is the relentless white anting by you marxists and massacre of birth rates.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Petite is one of those French adjectives that go before the noun, isn’t it? That’s what I wrote first and then changed it. I have since re-reconsidered. Now I instruct yez all to change it back. 🙂

  87. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And I’m not a Marxist.

    just a marxist pawn

  88. struth

    Are you saying we should have no bases here numbers?
    I worked at Pine Gap for a number of years, and you were a grunt.

    Let me assure you, we should have bases here.

  89. Makka

    Ok, so the “epidemic” is actually in suicides. Keep shifting those goalposts numbers.

  90. .

    Australia’s democracy has become more fragile because of the normalisation of hate speech and extremist views in parliament, senior Labor figure Penny Wong says.

    Wong in 2010/2011 tried to say that by 2100 we’d have sea level rise of two metres if we didn’t give her boss (Wayne Swan) more tax revenue.

    I think that qualifies as an extremist view; a less extremist view would be that LARPing can transport you to Middle Earth.

  91. Zatara

    Struth

    Try this one out on them. Be interesting to see if that mob of youngsters knows the worlds.

    Bit of a rite of passage in a pub or two I know of to be able to sing it.

  92. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Firearms kill far more people in the USA than measles ever did, but there is nobody making money out of measles, and no arcane references to vaccination in the US constitution.

    The constitution is designed to protect the people from dickheads such as yourselves who might gain power.

    That some people abuse it is unfortunate but not cause to ban guns.

  93. .

    The US bases thing makes out defence cheap. We get 3,000 marines and a B-1B bomber flight/squadron for free.

    That would take up 1/10th of the Army budget and most of our RAAF budget if we actually paid for it.

    Obama gave us the deal of a lifetime and Trump knows it!

  94. Zatara

    The constitution is designed to protect the people from dickheads such as yourselves who might gain power.

    You could not be more spot on Zippy.

  95. Snoopy

    Got the correlation between the rate of suicides by shooting and long-term Democrat administrations, Numbers?

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘It was an extensive investigation’: Former Empire star Jussie Smollett set for huge bill over ‘attack’
    Staff writerNews Corp Australia Network
    March 29, 2019 5:58AM

    Chicago officials, incensed by prosecutors’ abrupt and largely unexplained decision to drop all charges against Empire star Jussie Smollett, plan to slap the actor with a bill for the cost of the investigation.

    “The City of Chicago will be sending Mr Smollett a bill,” said Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi.

    Guglielmi said that the bill would include the “hours, the overtime, the financial costs and the resources that were used” in probing what the Chicago police, mayor and even prosecutors still believe was a hoax, Page Six reports.

    And that tally won’t even touch on outside resources Chicago cops called in to crack the firestorm case.

    “It was an extensive investigation that required a lot of review of cameras.

    “There was technical assistance provided by external agencies, but it’ll likely only include Chicago expenses and not expenses incurred by the FBI and other technical experts we brought in for analysis,” Guglielmi said, adding that the city’s Law Department was crunching the numbers.

  97. .

    but there is nobody making money out of measles

    Doctors
    Nurses
    Health admin
    Vaccine producers/biotech

    How can we even have a debate with such a numpty?

    (Hopefully one day vaccines will also wipe out measles).

  98. No it’s not, even Fatty Moore points this out, Canada actually has a higher prevalence of long arms but has less gun crime.

    If Moore is saying this (reference please), he’s wrong.
    Gun ownersip rates –
    Canada – 25 per 100
    USA – 120 per 100

  99. Makka

    And I’m not a Marxist.

    If it looks like a duck, quacks like duck………

    You’ll qualify as a Marxist until the next Marxist comes along, numbers. Profit is theft, right. You said so yourself

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    Perfectly coiffed metrosexual with foundation on and two buckets of ‘product’ in its hair at a presser, purporting to be some sort of leader of the National Party.

    “We have people with passion to take us through the next four years,’ it says. Completely unaware that cockies measure time in much more than four year spans.

    There’s yer problem!

  101. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    Writer Benjamin Law described it as “genius”

    Benji seem to think the anus is a sexual organ. Enough said.

  102. struth

    The World Health Organization reported the rate of suicide in Australia at 10.4 per 100,000 people per year (age standardised).

    The USA

    In 2016, there were 44,965 recorded suicides, up from 42,773 in 2014, according to the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). On average, adjusted for age, the annual U.S. suicide rate increased 24% between 1999 and 2014, from 10.5 to 13.0 suicides per 100,000 people, the highest rate recorded in 28 years.

    So basically the USA had the same suicide rate as Australia , but as individual Dem states increased gun regulation and destroyed economies, it grew…………………………!!

  103. .

    1735099
    #2973464, posted on March 29, 2019 at 10:47 am

    No it’s not, even Fatty Moore points this out, Canada actually has a higher prevalence of long arms but has less gun crime.

    If Moore is saying this (reference please), he’s wrong.
    Gun ownersip rates –
    Canada – 25 per 100
    USA – 120 per 100

    Jesus christ you fucking idiot, try to actually READ what other people write.

    LONG ARMS

    HOW MANY MASS SHOOTINGS INVOLVE THE USE OF A HANDGUN?

    FFS get a clue you insipid, babbling moron.

  104. Tom

    Hahahaha. The crowd in Cedar Rapids, Michigan, is chanting : “Four more years! Four more years!”

    So what’s the Democratic Party’s battle plan for the flyover states that elected him — apart from an open borders invasion of replacement voters and using the Green Nude Eel to shut down Trump’s red-hot economy?

    For as long as they’re not interested in middle America, they have no chance in 2o20.

    And now the chat is: “Build that wall! Build that wall!” And deafening cheers.

  105. Arky

    Results: US residents of all ages and both sexes are more likely to die from suicide when they live in areas where more households contain firearms.

    ..
    Yeah?
    What was the correlation?
    Give me a number.
    How does that correlation compare to say, the correlation between suicide and single parent families?
    Got numbers?

  106. cohenite

    Old pinhead is doubling down about the US and guns with the prevalence of guns being the crucial factor. As I explained gun ownership in Australia has increased since PA but gun crime decreased. The only aspect going against this trend is gun crime in muslim dominated suburbs.

    As for the US it is beyond dispute that black rates of gun crime are extraordinarily high; the rate of gun crime amongst black men is 27 times what it is for white men; Blacks committed 52 percent of homicides between 1980 and 2008, despite composing just 13 percent of the population; the rate of gun crime in the US is concentrated in democrat cities with very strict gun laws but high black, Hispanic and illegal populations; furthermore 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders, again the high murder and gun crime counties are democrat counties with strict gun laws.

    In short the argument against gun ownership by the left like numbers is bullshit.

  107. Shy Ted

    Struth, I think you said you were heading Lake Eyre and Flinders Ranges way. Was planning a trip up there myself but struggling to find out whether the rivers are running yet, like to see the bush in all it’ glory. Question – head up now or wait a month or two? Cheers

  108. Old School Conservative

    Struth 30 years ago.

    The proof is in the MAGA sign in the background.

  109. cohenite

    However I will concede guns should not be given to anyone, people like numbers for instance should not be allowed to have guns under any circumstances.

  110. dover_beach

    It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    This is the Left in a nutshell. All talk of racism, misogyny, white privilege, medieval barbarism, and the like, is nothing more than defecating on a white face by other means.

  111. struth

    Thanks Zatara

    I used to play that regularly to drunks in Alice Springs, with changed Lyrics like

    And I knew if I had my chance
    I could get in to her pants
    and maybe I’d be happy for a while………………….

    Drunk Australians are basic.
    They love changed lyrics.

  112. dover_beach

    FFS get a clue you insipid, babbling moron.

    You have been missed.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Good to see you back, dot.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This means that anti-vaxxers pose a threat that extends well beyond their ranks: When the measles vaccination rate dips below 95 percent, it compromises herd immunity

    I’ve already said this, Numbers. I note though that you have also eluded something else I said: that the anti-Vaxers are often loonies of a leftist and green persuasion. As such, they are fond of naturopathy, communes, experimental family structures and agin Big Pharma and all Capitalists, as well as agin basic measures of hygiene, such as the use of chemical cleaning agents. They also manage to lower their natural resistance to diseases by over-medication of untested compounds they call ‘herbal medicine’ and by their adherence to nutritionally deficient veganism. They believe their kids are magically protected by this sort of bullshit.

  115. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    One of the world’s great mysteries is how Billy Joel picked up such a great piece of minge.

    That reminds me, on amazon the chicoms use stupid chinglish made up brand names since they have zero understanding of marketing and english and I ran a across this chinglish “brand”: minger

  116. .

    struth

    Some good fellow here recommended to climb Ayers Rock before it gets shut down in October. I would like to go this winter. I might visit Alice Springs as well.

    Any tips? I’m aware that in Alice Springs, locals use reels of garden hose as “temporary” tyres on their cars.

  117. struth

    Oh no.
    Just got a call from my ultra left wing cousin surprising me that she’s in town and coming around to see me in a few minutes.

    There goes my day.

  118. Mother Lode

    Someone asked up thread if the media are walking back some of the ON accusations.

    Not a bit of it! Front and centre on Sunrise, plus a bit of Trump666 thrown in for S&Gs.

    We have a particularly execrable media.

    In the US there is a conservative voice. There was no getting away from the reality of the Meuller report – Fox would talk about it (and that is no small audience), conservative newspapers would be issuing challenges to back up claims, and comments sections even in the New York Fish-wrapper would be riddled with comments reminding them of how they were complicit (either knowingly or through sheer ignorance) in a big lie.

    Our media has no such thing. SKY is taking on a definite pinkish hue and the Paywallian is veering left on wobbling wheels.

    Our talking heads, who have almost never had to defend error, are gullible and stupid simply because that is the rut they are in.

    For all the marketing puff about ‘hard hitting’ and ‘tough’, all their posturing about courage, they are limp polyp-like mediocrities who you would never hear of without the Networks’ advertising holding them aloft. If they applied for jobs in the US they would be wrapped around cardboard tubes in the bathroom ready to be drawn upon by people like Jim Acosta and Rachel Maddow when took a dump.

  119. Old School Conservative

    Just reading a short biography of Patsy Cline.
    In addition to being a great singer, she had a wonderful sense of humour:

    She soon married Charles Dick. The couple had two children together, daughter Julie and son Randy.

  120. hzhousewife

    It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    I would like that show to be shown in full to the entire Board of the ABC, in each others company. I doubt they know what is shown to the public.

  121. Knuckle Dragger

    Can we go back in time to ‘my stereotype multinational hands-across-the-ocean rifle section survived in Vietnam only through our mutual respect and compassion’ please?

    Best day evah.

  122. .

    He’s a lefty but I recommend Tim Pool on YouTube.

    Also, to get across the cultural war stuff, watch gaming channels like The Quartering.

    Then you only need to read a bit of Reason/Breitbart (for some contrast and a wide “net”), the better stuff on Zero Hedge and watch a little of Benny Shap and Tucker Carlson.

    You will get a fair and balanced perspective. Free to air TV is so woeful I cannot wait to see it die off and the firms are reduced to insolvency, bankruptcy and being wound up globally.

  123. C.L.

    I’d never heard of Nakkiah Lui. A quick Google suggests she resides in a lush paddock.
    The white man has provided her with an abundance of calories if nothing else.

  124. notafan

    Numbers ought to know very well that jihad is the peak of islam

    jannah for the muslim is very uncertain, except for the ‘martyr’ that dies performing jihad, not only for him but he can take his family to jannah too which is why so often families encourage their sons to become jihadis

    The peak is the highest part of the building, but it is not one of its supports or pillars upon which it is built. That is for two reasons. First, jihad is a collective obligation (fard al-kifayah) according to the majority of scholars and, unlike the pillars, it is not an individual obligation. Second, jihad will not continue until the end of time. On the contrary, when Jesus, peace be upon him, arrives and there is no longer any other religion besides Islam at that time, then war will lay down its burden and there will be no need for jihad, unlike these pillars which are obligatory upon the believers until the command of Allah is given and they are still in that state. Allah knows best.

    from a muslim source

  125. C.L.

    Trump at Michigan rally observes that Adam Schiff has “the smallest, thinnest neck I’ve ever seen.”

  126. Zatara

    Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t forget ‘forced harmony through diversity’.

  127. lotocoti

    Give it up Makka.
    You’ll never out-quibble the founder and sole member of Militant Tendencies (Youth Brigade), Downs and Maranoa.

  128. OldOzzie

    .
    #2973057, posted on March 28, 2019 at 10:06 pm

    Great stuff

    Murder in Rome, a re-enactment of the one of the most significant murder trials in history. Based on a genuine trial record, it’s set in Rome in 81BC. Sextus Roscius is accused of murdering his father, and found guilty he’ll face an agonising death. However, the stakes are just as high for Cicero, the lawyer defending him. If he wins the case, he could be killed.

    Dot,

    thanks for that reference – Really Enjoyed – I am a Fan of Colleen McCullough Masters of Rome Books and Marcus Didius Falco is the fictional central character and narrator in a series of historical mystery crime novels by Lindsey Davis.

  129. struth

    Plenty of Tips dot, but I may have to go when I get a knock on the door, with this visitor, but I’ll fill you in later if I can’t manage it now.

    Be prepared firstly, that even though the rock climb is going to be permanently closed it is already closed over half the time now for any little excuse, a death of an elder somewhere, a slight breeze.
    You’ll be ripped off at pure extortion rates going into the park and accommodation around Yulara, so many accommodate or camp from Curtin Springs back toward the Stuart Highway and go in for the day.

    Make sure you do a sunset on the rock.
    Because , no matter the midget politics of the human excrement trying to “own” it, it belongs to the world, and it’s spectacular.
    If you fly into the rock you may not appreciate it as much as when you drive though the country to get there, confirming just how weird this Arkose sandstone monstrosity is.
    The Olgas shouldn’t be missed.
    You do the climb first thing in the morning, and the trick to miss the crowds, is you then shoot off to the Olgas.
    You come back to Ayers Rock in the afternoon while the tour buses are at the Olgas, and you walk around the base of the rock (where you are still allowed) and then position for sunset at the designated viewing area before the others.
    Works nine times out of ten.
    Can tell you more about Alice Later.

  130. Arky

    young infants, the elderly, and immunocompromised adults.

    ..
    Fuck ‘em.

  131. .

    If Morrison wasn’t weak as piss, he could ride the “black host defecates on white effigy” to the Lodge once more. He’s got Warren Mundine running as a Liberal doesn’t he? WHAT is UP with THAT?

  132. Makka

    Quiz: On gun crime in the US, of the top twenty US cities on the gun crime league table, 19 are LONG TERM domains of what US political party?

    Chicago is the deadliest.

    Quiz: What political party has ruled Chicago longer than Stalin ruled Russia, the Castros in Cuba, the Kims in NK and longer than slavery was legal in the US (another Dem ideology).

    The left, of which numbers and mOron are fully blown members promoting leftism here daily, are filthy scum. They thrive on the spread of misery.

  133. notafan

    so I refuse to accept that in a country full of such geniuses there is no chance of a peaceful solution that can benefit both sides.

    It is not for lack of willingness on the Israeli side

    Anyone in “Palestine’ that makes peace with Israel puts a target on his head.

    The hatred is implacable

  134. Arky

    It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman

    ..
    How hard can it be?
    Ask Hitler, I suppose.
    Or was that the other way round? Ask Eva then.

  135. .

    Imagine if a white dude “tried to shit” on an effigy of a black woman?

    Or if some uni students went to a really bad taste halloween party off campus, an Aborigine got offended by mockery of the KKK…

    Society is so cucked it is not funny.

    Never apologise for telling the truth.

  136. Snoopy

    The claim
    Weeks out from the federal election, Labor has again attempted to turn the blowtorch back on the Government over cuts to aged-care funding.

    In a recent press conference, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said: “What’s really scary is this Government’s cut nearly $2 billion from aged-care services.”

    Is that right? Has the Government cut nearly $2 billion from aged care services?

    RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

    The verdict
    Mr Shorten’s claim is misleading.

    It’s actually a bald-faced lie as their analysis shows.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I could get in to her pants

    This reminds me, obliquely, of something said upthread about there should be more Mrs. than Ms. in our parliaments. I was thus reminded by the above because I have a very cute pair of honeymoon knickers with a happy exclamatory Mrs! written on the rear of them. It is an honorable title which should be used everywhere as a sign of traditional marital twosomeness. Ms. Thatcher has a very illegitimate tone, for instance. Sadly, Mrs is almost illegal these days although Mr (Mister) is still strong enough to be Presidential. Even husband as a title has been stolen, for two gays can apparently be husband to each other. Wives though seems to be suspect. I don’t know any two lezos who call each other wives. Too redolent of terrible toxic relationships entailing unmentionable ‘duties’ with rampant males, I guess.

    Luckily, wife is still a term well understood by medicos, who count on wifely admonishment of husbands regarding their health and lifestyles. Hairy and I seeing the ophthalmologist again this arvo for more of that. 🙂

  138. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Monetary policy space remains constrained by the lower bound in many countries, limiting the policy options available to address future deflationary shocks. The existence of cash prevents central banks from cutting interest rates much below zero. In this paper, we consider the practical feasibility of recent proposals for decoupling cash from electronic money to achieve a negative yield on cash which would remove the lower bound constraint on monetary policy. We discuss how central banks could design and operate such a system, and raise some unanswered questions.

    these people are lunatics, complete, absolute lunatics

  139. Makka

    Snoopy
    #2973511, posted on March 29, 2019 at 11:15 am

    And any minute now the Libs will mount a fully fledged attack on these leftist lies, any minute…..

  140. HOW MANY MASS SHOOTINGS INVOLVE THE USE OF A HANDGUN?

    Red herring.

    Chicago is the deadliest.

    Red herring.

    My point is that irrespective of location, irrespective of ethnicity, the common factor in the relationship is prevalence of (and therefore access to) weapons.

  141. Quiz: What political party has ruled Chicago longer than Stalin ruled Russia, the Castros in Cuba, the Kims in NK and longer than slavery was legal in the US (another Dem ideology).

    Red herring.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    In the to-and-fro with M0nty over Manafort I’ve said a few times that Manafort could have been working for Ukraine’s pro-Russian prez on the orders of the Obama Administration.

    That is because Obama was supporting the pro-Russian Ukraine prez at the time (which was when the ‘reset button’ got pressed in 2009), and the Podestas were working with Manafort on the lobbying stuff for that guy. Manafort in that scenario would be under a tight confidentiality undertaking, possibly federal, which would prevent him saying anything publicly in his own defense.

    And today, from CNN of all places, I see an article which supports this hypothesis.

    Prominent Democratic lawyer Greg Craig close to being charged in case stemming from Mueller probe (28 Mar, via Lucianne)

    Federal prosecutors are close to bringing charges against Greg Craig, a prominent Democratic lawyer and former White House counsel in the Obama administration, in a case that originated with special counsel Robert Mueller, according to people familiar with the matter.

    The possible charges are connected to false statements Craig allegedly gave to investigators who were looking at the work he performed for Ukraine.

    In recent weeks, Justice Department prosecutors have privately suggested that Craig enter into a plea deal. He has rejected that option.

    Craig worked as WH counsel to Obama in 2009-10. The Ukraine lobbying he is being charged with is from 2012. So the timeline is entirely consistent with him being sent as a quiet Obama rep to work with Manafort and the Podestas on a below radar diplomatic task for Obama. The circumstances of Craig’s leaving official service with Obama also fits with this view (see last link). Getting a well paid task from Obama to act as an informal diplomat to the Ukrainian regime would be just the sort of consolation that might be offered to a loyal supporter in such circumstances.

    This would explain the final para of the article – if Craig was in bed with Manafort and Obama on the Ukraine thing then Barr would be keen to turn him and break open the hitherto confidential links to the Obama Administration.

    Reading tea leaves is fun. Sometimes it means someone made a cup of tea.

  143. .

    If they’re red herrings numbers then you’ve shifted goalposts and are arguing against suicides, personal free will whilst at the same time being an ardent believer in euthanasia.

    PS

    They are not red herrings and you have not demonstrated that at all. You cannot non seqitur your way through an entire argument.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.

    I once listened to someone’s LP of his. I recall liking it. But I was very young and stupid then. 

    Jackson Browne’s music appeals if you are an emo teenager growing up in the 1970’s.
    For a baby-boomer in 2019 worried about his superannuation and his prostate, it doesn’t resonate so much.
    Or so I’m told.

  145. .

    In the to-and-fro with M0nty over Manafort I’ve said a few times that Manafort could have been working for Ukraine’s pro-Russian prez on the orders of the Obama Administration.

    That is because Obama was supporting the pro-Russian Ukraine prez at the time (which was when the ‘reset button’ got pressed in 2009), and the Podestas were working with Manafort on the lobbying stuff for that guy. Manafort in that scenario would be under a tight confidentiality undertaking, possibly federal, which would prevent him saying anything publicly in his own defense.

    Bloody hell. What a tangled web we weave…

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    My my, spastic herder.

    Describing facts as ‘red herrings’ to underline your deeply flawed point. Again.

    You should run the country, Mr Forced Diversity Is Harmony.

  147. Zatara

    Prominent Democratic lawyer Greg Craig close to being charged in case stemming from Mueller probe

    Wot? Will the montys of the world add that to their ‘indictment count’? Only time will tell.

  148. struth

    The ranges Alice sits in many people go out west “the western Macs”
    Go East as well out to Ross River, it’s beautiful out that way as well.
    Check out the town camps (don’t go in) and the general welfare degradation of the town and it’s locals.
    Try buying a beer without your ID.
    Alice is now a shit hole.
    Go to my old haunt where I played every night nearly for a good three years, called Bojangles and you can see what it would have been like.

    Head up to Anzac Hill for the view, and you’ve just about done Alice.
    It used to be a great place to come visit .
    I’m not recommending it to you now, though.
    Not at all.
    The town camps and sights and smells will be an eye opener and a nostril closer, but as for spending your holidays there………………………………….?

  149. .

    My point is that irrespective of location, irrespective of ethnicity, the common factor in the relationship is prevalence of (and therefore access to) weapons.

    No it isn’t. Canada, New Hampshire and Switzerland have much lower murder, gun crime and overall violent crime rates.

  150. Snoopy

    For the Boomers out there. Herbie Hancock is touring Australia and NZ in June.

  151. Slim Cognito

    The trend since the 1970s to let the mentally ill roam free was an epic mistake.

    The fact that this corresponds with the rise of the green movement is no coincidence.

  152. OldOzzie

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2973143, posted on March 28, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Very interesting video Zippy, I’ve just seen the first few minutes but will watch it all eventually.

    That seattle video is a shocker. Legalising all opioids would be a catastrophe. The left’s response has done nothing but worsen the situation like it always does.

    Seattle has effectively decriminalised personal opioid use and the results are truly appalling.

    JC
    #2973144, posted on March 28, 2019 at 11:48 pm

    Seattle has effectively decriminalised personal opioid use and the results are truly appalling.

    Oh yes, you’re so right. There’s strong evidence to show two people have refused to use illicit drugs because they are illegal in the past 150 years. One person refused in 1937 and the other was in 1965.

    .
    #2973146, posted on March 28, 2019 at 11:50 pm

    That seattle video is a shocker. Legalising all opioids would be a catastrophe. The left’s response has done nothing but worsen the situation like it always does.

    Opioids were legal before the 1920s and sans technology, I dare say we were better off.

    I did a road trip last week with my son and on previous road trips and staying with him in Singapore, he had introduced me to The Dollop Report Podcasts – The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds

    Besides some Australian Topics

    370 – Aussie Explorer Ludwig Leichhardt (Live w/ Wil Anderson)

    Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds are joined by Wil Anderson to examine Australian explorer Ludwig Leichhardt.

    On last week’s road trip I listened to 2 Podcasts on Opium in the US

    http://thedollop.libsyn.com/280-opium-in-the-us-part-1

    and

    https://thedollop.libsyn.com/281-opium-in-the-us-part-2

    Fascinating and worth listening to.

    Given they do a Bi-weekly Podcast and Leichhardt above is their latest Podcast and Number 370, all I can say is they have amazing researchers to come up with the detail they cover and the Comedy/Humour is good

  153. Snoopy

    For a baby-boomer in 2019 worried about his superannuation and his prostate, it doesn’t resonate so much.
    Or so I’m told.

    Where did you hear that? RMIT ABC Fact Check?

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    Aw c’mon, struth.

    Little Sisters and Hoppy’s Camps are cultural hubs. Full of….. you know, culture.

    Nakkiah Lui would be right at home, defecating on other people’s stuff.

  155. Mother Lode

    Firearms kill far more people in the USA than measles ever did, but there is nobody making money out of measles, and no arcane references to vaccination in the US constitution.

    I like the assumption that people making money makes something bad.

    How do these people make money? By supplying customers what they want. People want guns. So the argument amounts to people should not be allowed to want them – but that is taking on a whole lot of people and a whole lot of reasons.

    If you ask someone in the US what guns are for you will get many reasons – for some it is for a hobby, for some personal protection, for some to control vermin. A lot of people in the cities (particularly Democrat ones where gun crime is rampant) they feel that they are safer if they merely show a miscreant they have a gun – a dynamic which anecdotally which plays out quite frequently.

    If you ask an Australian it is just for killing people. If a good person has a gun then they are viewed with extreme suspicion, they are more likely to succumb to murderous rage when you would never have expected it of them before – it is only a matter of time before they kill someone.

    Rather pathetic really.

  156. struth

    I would fly into Alice, go east for a day, then do the Mereenie loop, Hermmansburg , Palm valley, Gosses bluff and Kings Canyon, Camp at Peter Severin’s, get up early go and do the rock and Olgas and then head back to Alice.
    Don’t drive at night.

  157. The NSW upper house looks like it will be fun.
    Not sure who will take the last seat.

  158. Arky

    Firearm availiability is, if relevant at all (it isn’t), the smallest variable.
    But it is the variable that allows totalitarians to tell others what to do and render them powerless.
    So all other variables are “red herrings”.

  159. struth

    KD, I’ve seen them shit on the floor of the commonwealth bank on pension day.

    They don’t confine it to the camps, as you know.

  160. thefrollickingmole

    the show, which is littered with the f-word and the c-word, went even further this week, featuring: “the flaccid penis, bloody menstrual cup and fully dilated cervix”. It finished with Nakkiah Lui attempting to defecate on a cushion featuring the face of a white woman.

    …The Aristocrats…

    (Reference here for those who dont get the joke)

  161. notafan

    harking back to old history

    matrixperson misleads

    the derailed discussion about circumcision originated with a post from Helen about whistlecocking by someone attempting to equate male circumcision with FGM

    Then the stupid came out from the usual suspects putting words in other people’s mouths

    The general contempt for female (mole) opinions is noted

  162. Zatara

    If you ask someone in the US what guns are for you will get many reasons – for some it is for a hobby, for some personal protection, for some to control vermin.

    And many fill their freezers with game meat during hunting season to feed their families during the year.

    That concept is obviously so far away from the city dweller as to be on Mars.

  163. Makka

    You’re a sad dude, Leigh.

  164. .

    Don’t drive at night.

    Really? Okay. I’ve heard horror stories of blackfellas getting run over.

    I was thinking also of looking at the weird tourist stuff in the Barkly Tablelands, a(n) (overpriced?) round of golf in Alice Springs and fishing the southernmost stream I can for barramundi etc. I don’t want to be anywhere near a bloody croc save for on my dinner plate.

  165. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2973512, posted on March 29, 2019 at 11:15 am

    Luckily, wife is still a term well understood by medicos, who count on wifely admonishment of husbands regarding their health and lifestyles. Hairy and I seeing the ophthalmologist again this arvo for more of that. 🙂

    Totally agree Lizzie,

    My wife (correctly) thinks I am incompetent in medical matters, and I always take her along to important Medical Appointments to ask pertinent questions and absorb what normally goes staright through my ears – “Mrs” and Wives are indispensible.

  166. lotocoti

    if you are an emo teenager growing up in the 1970’s

    There is only one album.
    For a baby-boomer in 2019 worried about his superannuation and his prostate, it still rings bells.

  167. Arky

    Where do you go when you dissapear Dot?
    Very odd.

  168. 1735099

    No it isn’t…

    As already pointed out upthread, Canada has a much lower weapon prevalence than the USA. New Hampshire is an exception because of local characteristics, and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership and storage that the gun wankers in the USA would never tolerate.

    You can’t argue with the statistics, so you introduce an endless trail of red herrings.
    I’ll repeat – the weapon fatality rate in the USA is around eleven times that in this country corrected for population, and that is a result of prevalence and accessibility which is in turn a result of irresponsible neglect of public health and safety.
    The Yanks are welcome to their own unique form of culling of their population at the rate of 30000+ annually, if that is what they want, but we don’t need that on this side of the Pacific.
    Funny thing is, most of them aren’t happy with the death rate, but they are powerless to do anything about it whilst governed by spineless sycophants.
    Howard, for al his faults, had a backbone on some issues.
    The National Firearms Agreement was one such issue.

  169. thefrollickingmole

    .

    Driving through boulder one night and missed a woman “long grasser” staggering out of the park they were drinking in by about the thickness of a coat of paint.

    I dont know if she was playing chicken/trying to top herself or what but it was the barest miss Ive ever had with a pedestrian.

    If id hit her I wouldnt have stopped until i got to the police station.

  170. Rockdoctor

    Hmm defecating over things in the name of comedy, how very adult. We pay for this don’t we????

  171. .

    Very good stuff. Very provocative.

    GRAHAM HANCOCK – AMERICA BEFORE: THE KEY TO EARTH’S LOST CIVILIZATION – Part 1/2 | London Real

    Actual interview starts at 5:29. Hancock states that settlement and civilisation in North and South America may actually go back 130,000 years BC.

    A real Hyborian Age?

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    struth,

    Too right. Seen it in Alice, and at Westpac and the ANZ in Tennant. Apparently having to rejoin the line, costing you perhaps ten minutes is too high a price to pay for missing out on grog money. Centrelink and royalties have a lot to answer for.

    Dot,

    Yep – don’t drive at night. Mainly because of the wandering stock, as very few stations are fenced but also because a certain demographic tend to do brown snake impersonations on the roads, as they are marginally warmer to lie on than spinifex. Should you hit one – DO NOT STOP, and piss off quickly to the nearest town to report it. Then get out of that town and far away.

    The golfy in Alice is pretty good, and at one time was ranked inside the top ten desert courses in the world. Excellent view of the Macdonnells from the clubhouse at sunset.

    The pro shop may want to sell you a ‘rock iron’, usually a 5 or 6. Take it, if you haven’t already got one – if you go a tiny bit right on the 2nd you’ll understand.

  173. Zatara

    New Hampshire is an exception because of local characteristics

    It doesn’t agree with your ‘model’ so you discard it.

    Do you work for the BOM?

  174. Roger

    Facebook bans white nationalism.

    ABC promotes black nationalism.

    Pace Gil Scott-Heron, the revolution is being televised…and subsidised.

  175. thefrollickingmole

    Im sure it was wonderful…

    The crescendo of her anger was vindicating – and these two comic geniuses shifted tone, gaze and expectation exquisitely in a way that shows us how socially-committed satire is done. Evelyn Araluen called it “heart-wrenching destruction”. Tapsell and Lui both deliver verbal strikes at colonisation and the role of TV and its audience in it, which you’ll just have to see and wither before.

    As Tapsell and Lui’s characters trashed the studio, I cheered, and recalled Associate Professor Chelsea Bond’s writing on the audacity of anger: “Hope is for white people … They tell us not to be angry, to have ‘hope’ by simply re-imagining ourselves out … what we want to do is tear it down.”

    And tear it down, they do.

    It’s a real shame that Get Krack!n is ending just as it hits what looks like a full return to the power of women’s fury and revolutionary joy. Through Tapsell and Lui’s uncompromising dive into the much-maligned anger of blak women, the show seemed to finally realise its ask after two seasons of giving uproarious answers. We cross our fingers in wait for a blak Get Krack!n that acknowledges that chuckling nihilism can be healing, but is never enough without the anger and drive that we just saw. And we have a name for it, as Tapsell helpfully and angrily stuttered out just before her reconciliatory cupcakes arrived to be thrown across the room: “Welcome back to Get Black!n! Black to Get Krack!n.”

  176. Mater

    and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership and storage that the gun wankers in the USA would never tolerate.

    Oh yeah, they’ll be far more receptive to having their guns confiscated completely by jumped up little totalitarians like your good self.

  177. Ironing Mike

    I love that the college-age P J O’Rourke was taken aside by the family matriarch to enquire about his political allegiances now that he had departed the protective embrace of his Republican family. After informing her that he had become a Maoist since leaving home she responded, “That’s a relief, dear. I was worried that you’d become a Democrat.”

  178. .

    1735099
    #2973550, posted on March 29, 2019 at 11:40 am

    No it isn’t…

    As already pointed out upthread, Canada has a much lower weapon prevalence than the USA. New Hampshire is an exception because of local characteristics, and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership and storage that the gun wankers in the USA would never tolerate.

    Stop lying. New Hampshire’s “local characteristics” mare things which you called red herrings and refuse to discuss. You refuse to make a distinction between long arms and handguns (or which are used in mass shootings), and refuse to admit that you’ve shifted the goal posts from “gun violence” to “suicide” [which you can have no moral or logical objection to]. Switzerland has gun responsibilities (rather than “rights”) and storage of high powered firearms way beyond what the left in the US would even caricuture the NRA for wanting.

    You have been weighed and measured numbers and you have been found wanting.

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    Just got a call from my ultra left wing cousin surprising me that she’s in town and coming around to see me in a few minutes.

    Buy her a Chai Latte and ask her about Mueller.
    Trust me on this.

  180. Knuckle Dragger

    The ‘locals’ in Katherine still get on the piss on the median strip in the middle of town, and from time to time one gets sucked under the trailers of passing road trains.

    The poor old truckie knows nothing about it, until he’s pulled up somewhere between Pine Creek and Adelaide River. Gotta admire the locals’ determination though – they just keep on doing it.

  181. Zatara

    thefrollickingmole – a little background might be in order.

  182. Stimpson J. Cat

    A real Hyborian Age?

    Of course there was.
    All his books are very good.
    Robert Howard also wrote some excellent historical records.

  183. and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership

    Yeah right. I have watched two swiss (french) practicing using a speed camera as target. (suburbanish area)

  184. Makka

    I’ll repeat – the weapon fatality rate in the USA is around eleven times that in this country corrected for population, and that is a result of prevalence and accessibility which is in turn a result of irresponsible neglect of public health and safety.

    I’ll repeat: The US doesn’t have a gun crime problem. Stats show it certainly does have a Dem city administration problem which overwhelmingly dominates national gun crime statistics. This is why the left constantly harp on about gun crime. It is to mask their complete ineptitude and lethal ideology.

  185. .

    Does Get Krackin’ mean taking a shit in remote Aboriginal communities? How remote? What about Newtown settlement near/at Walgett? What does P say?

    Did Grigory actually pass away?

    I can’t believe the ABC is allowing crap that is worthy of the Hamas TV stuff, not even the Nazis would (openly) be this crass.

    I have plenty of “diverse” friends and none of them would be this rude to their brothers from different coloured mothers.

    Shut it down. Fire them all.

    The placeholder could win this election if he wasn’t a ball-less cuck.

  186. Zatara

    Yeah right. I have watched two swiss (french) practicing using a speed camera as target. (suburbanish area)

    But did they hit it?

  187. Cohenite:

    Alrighty then; you’re birdie’s apprentice.

    Yep.
    Another who has self selected for the scrollby list.
    Sad…

  188. 1735099

    An anecdote which plays out frequently

    Precisely, an anecdote.
    An anecdote schooled and drilled into the paranoid population by the NRA.
    The documentary showed exactly how it is used.
    There are no stastistics to back it up.

    What the gun wankers here are advocating is free availability of semi-autos, which simply put, are weapons of war designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible. I grew up in the bush and we had a .22 for wild dogs and foxes, and a 410 gauge shotgun for snakes.
    Nobody had a semi-auto, and nobody saw the need for one.
    The other weapons continue to be available subject to rational regulation.
    When I was in the USA last year, when the subject turned to firearms, many people were convinced that nobody in Australia owned firearms because they had all been confiscated in 1996. This is the propaganda pushed by the NRA, and many Yanks believe it.

  189. But did they hit it?

    very much so. many many times

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership
    Yeah right. I have watched two swiss (french) practicing using a speed camera as target. (suburbanish area)

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that… sounds pretty disciplined to me. 🙂

  191. C.L.:

    Why NASA’s historic all-female spacewalk isn’t happening

    They’d get lost, obviously.

    FFS.
    NASA needs Winstons Purge Syrup.
    Sack the top three layers of their bureaucracy, with prejudice.
    Then put the flamethrower through the PR and HR sections.
    … or just sack everyone without STEM degree.

  192. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yep.
    Another who has self selected for the scrollby list.
    Sad…

    Not sad at all.
    I’m still here, I’ll still be posting, maybe someday I might write something that interests you or makes you change the way you look at the world.
    I may even make you laugh.
    We don’t all have to agree all the time.
    The world doesn’t work that way.
    I don’t have to conform to your vision of reality.
    I just have to be at peace with my own.

  193. Arky

    Winston, you might want to unsubscribe from the subscribestar page.
    It hasn’t got the momentum right now.
    I will continue to use it but won’t promote it heavily until I have the time to script something really good. That won’t be for a monty or two.
    If you want a refund contact me through Sinc.

  194. Bear Necessities

    No it isn’t…

    As already pointed out upthread, Canada has a much lower weapon prevalence than the USA. New Hampshire is an exception because of local characteristics, and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership and storage that the gun wankers in the USA would never tolerate.

    You can’t argue with the statistics, so you introduce an endless trail of red herrings.
    I’ll repeat – the weapon fatality rate in the USA is around eleven times that in this country corrected for population, and that is a result of prevalence and accessibility which is in turn a result of irresponsible neglect of public health and safety.
    The Yanks are welcome to their own unique form of culling of their population at the rate of 30000+ annually, if that is what they want, but we don’t need that on this side of the Pacific.
    Funny thing is, most of them aren’t happy with the death rate, but they are powerless to do anything about it whilst governed by spineless sycophants.
    Howard, for al his faults, had a backbone on some issues.
    The National Firearms Agreement was one such issue.

    Homicide/Negligent Manslaughter doesn’t even make the top 10 causes of death in the USA. Around 10,000 deaths out of 325,000,000 is not alarming. The homicide rate was much higher in the 80’s and 90’s. Most of the homicides aren’t mass shootings but likely to be related to inner city crime. The most prevalent offender is a young black male with the most prevalent victim also a young black male. As if they are going to give in their guns.

  195. Tom

    Leftards lie about everything.

    All the time.

    Take it to the bank.

  196. Zatara

    The most prevalent offender is a young black male with the most prevalent victim also a young black male.

    And the most prevalent weapon is an illegal handgun.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bystander knocks alleged would-be thief over head with golf club
    Nic Darveniza, Gerard Cockburn, The Courier-Mail
    March 29, 2019 4:42am
    Subscriber only

    A 28-year-old man has turned hero after foiling an alleged armed robbery at a KFC restaurant in Logan overnight.

    A knife-wielding man is alleged to have entered the restaurant on Chambers Flat Rd around 7pm and demanded cash from a 15-year-old girl working behind the counter, police allege.

    Reports suggest the knife was held to the young worker’s throat.

    The younger man, who had watched the incident unfold from the drive-through lane, rushed to the girl’s rescue by retrieving a golf club from the boot of his car and entering the restaurant where he struck the accused would-be robber, reportedly knocking him unconscious.

    The accused man, a 40-year-old from Park Ridge, was subdued until police arrived to make the arrest.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    Did Grigory actually pass away?

    I’m hoping he can hold out 11 months.
    Then after he is cured it will be back to cruise reviews, Aldi catalogue highlights, dog pool ramp testing, fascinating foreign language phrases, and car park updates.
    I can’t wait.

  199. .

    Rock iron?

    Isn’t that a 2 iron used left-handed or a well abused putter?

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    That won’t be for a monty or two.

    This is outrageous.
    Degenerate Kiwi behavior.

  201. Knuckle Dragger:
    Bird is, quite clearly, still the word.

    Bird.

  202. OldOzzie

    Mater
    #2973560, posted on March 29, 2019 at 11:47 am

    and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership and storage that the gun wankers in the USA would never tolerate.

    Oh yeah, they’ll be far more receptive to having their guns confiscated completely by jumped up little totalitarians like your good self.

    Fascinated me, having spent many years in Switzerland .the Guys doing their National Service?, carrying their weapons on the Trains on their way to and from their Training

    My Grandson was taught how to light fires in the open, whittle with a Swiss Army Knife whilst in Kindergarten, and the best of all, when in Pre Kindy, all the kids in his class were picked up by the Local Fire Brigade Engines and Trucks and taken (no safety belts) to the Fire Station where a huge bonfire of Pallets had been setup and the Kids used Hand Pump Hoses to try and put the fire ou (have great video of that) then back to Pre-Kindy by Firetrucks.

    The Play Equipment was fabulous and no soft stuff underneath – if you fell you hurt yourself – Lesson Don’t Fall

  203. Knuckle Dragger

    A rock iron’s one you use when you don’t want your good Callaway or Titleist gouged to the shithouse.

    The actual fairways (and greens) are well worth it.

  204. Snoopy

    Breaking-

    There are reports flights have been diverted from Sydney Airport after a fire led to the evacuation of the air traffic control tower

    Hope it’s not serious.

  205. stackja

    Tom
    #2973584, posted on March 29, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    Yes. Leftist insisted Julius Rosenberg, and Rosenberg’s wife Ethel, were innocent. Venona showed otherwise.

    THE VENONA INTERCEPTS (Washington, D.C., 1946-1980)

    From 1948 to 1951, numerous Soviet spies were uncovered and prosecuted this way, including the atomic spies Klaus Fuchs (below), David Greenglass, Greenglass’s handler Julius Rosenberg, and Rosenberg’s wife Ethel. Other sources, such as Theodore Hall, were detected, but without sufficient corroborating evidence other than VENONA, the government was unable to prosecute them. (The VENONA secret was considered too valuable to reveal as evidence in an open court proceeding.)

  206. Knuckle Dragger

    In Guatemala this morning, 35 rubberneckers who’d stopped to look at a traffic accident were killed by a passing truck.

    These are the high achievers Di Natale and Sea Whale Patrol want in this country.

  207. stackja

    Snoopy
    #2973594, posted on March 29, 2019 at 12:10 pm
    Breaking-

    There are reports flights have been diverted from Sydney Airport after a fire led to the evacuation of the air traffic control tower

    Hope it’s not serious.

    2GB noon news reported no fire.

  208. .

    This indeed should be national, front page news.

    Tom and myself have been warning about it for ages.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/1-trillion-debt-bomb-buried-in-nsw-budget-papers/news-story/fd65e98b805b7d03b60f31ccf6b8a97b

    $1 trillion debt bomb buried in NSW budget papers

    One of the world’s biggest ratings agencies has questioned the NSW government’s finances, as new analysis reveals the nationwide ­infrastructure boom is pushing combined federal and state government debts towards the $1 trillion mark for the first time.

    Sinc, hit the main page with this.

  209. Tom

    Dot, a rock iron is a mid-iron used to hit got balls out of rocky ground. You need one at every golf course from the Flinders Ranges to Wyndham in north-west WA. Essential equipment for the outback golf pioneer.

  210. Tom

    Dot, a rock iron is a mid-iron used to hit got b alls out of rocky ground. You need one at every golf course from the Flinders Ranges to Wyndham in north-west WA — essential equipment for the outback golf pioneer.

  211. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    and Switzerland has a highly disciplined approach to ownership

    so what you are saying is that blacks lack gun discipline. can’t argue against that.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    And remember to take one of your real clubs out of the bag when you put the ‘rocky’ in. The 14 club rule and all that.

    Also, if you put your extra club in the pro shop for safekeeping, remember to get it before you leave. Alice still has my 56 degree wedge.

  213. areff

    I would like cat’s opinion regarding Jackson Browne.

    It’s no wonder his first wife topped herself with a Draino cocktail, although the grieving widower made the most of it by trotting out their kid at concert to the accompaniment of maudlin chords for years after.

  214. OldOzzie

    $1 trillion debt bomb buried in NSW budget papers

    Adam Creighton
    Economics Editor


    One of the world’s biggest ratings agencies has questioned the NSW government’s finances, as new analysis reveals the nationwide ­infrastructure boom is pushing combined federal and state government debts towards the $1 trillion mark for the first time.

    US ratings giant Moody’s called the widely praised NSW budget a “credit negative” this week, singling out “rising debt levels”. In its budget verdict, Moody’s contrasted 3.2 per cent average ­annual growth in expenses over the next four years with revenue growth of 2.5 per cent over the same period. “This imbalance would lead to growth in debt over the forecast period, challenging NSW’s credit profile,” it said.

    Former long-serving NSW treasurer Michael Egan said the states’ rising debt levels were “very worrying”.

    “For the states, the most ­important thing is the health of their balance sheets in order to maintain services over the long term,” Mr Egan said.

    He suggested states could hide debt growth behind headline budget results that ignored infrastructure spending.

    Every state budget this year has included surpluses over the next four years alongside a rising debt trajectory.

    GRAPHIC: Government finances

    Net financial liabilities — a broader measure of debt including superannuation liabilities and the debts of state-owned corporations — are poised to surge by more than $43bn combined across the states and territories, according to analysis by The Australian. Including the federal government — the only one pencilling in a fall on this measure, from $534.8bn to $513.3bn — total net financial liabilities are set to rise to $944bn in June 2021, or about $36,000 per person.

    NSW and Victoria, the only states with AAA ratings from both major agencies, are poised to make the biggest contribution to the increase.

    “Today we announce our infrastructure investment hits another record — $87.2bn over the next four years, the largest in the “nation,” NSW Treasurer Dominic Perrottet said on Tuesday.

    He stressed the record expenditure on new and improved road, rail and social infrastructure.

    Victoria plans to spend $10.1bn a year over the next four years, more than double the average over the previous decade.

    Federal Urban Infrastructure Minister Paul Fletcher defended the Turnbull government’s “record infrastructure commitment of $75bn over 10 years”.

    Recent sales of NSW government assets, including electricity distribution networks and the land and title registry, have helped fuel infrastructure spending. Adrian Dwyer, chief ­executive of Infrastructure ­Partnerships Australia, said: “NSW’s record-after-record ­infrastructure program is no ­coincidence, it’s the product of smart fiscal management, ­sensible asset recycling, and solid project selection.”

    As for the other states, NSW’s annual budget surpluses mask large annual deficits when spending on infrastructure is included.

    Queensland Treasurer Jackie Trad, bringing down her first budget in May, announced surpluses rising from $148m to $690m by 2022. At the same time, she said state debt would rise from $2.8bn to $13.7bn over that period.

    Queensland’s net financial liabilities, a broader definition akin to remaining debts if states sold their financial assets to pay down debt, are projected to rise from $74bn to $83.6bn over that period. In NSW they will rise from $105bn to $129.2bn.

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dot from 10.24am:

    I ask those who know more what would happen in the Middle East if:
    1. The Brits gave Arabia/Sheriff of Medina to the Hashems, not the ibn Saud?

    The Saud would’ve massacred the Hashems.
    Strong horse.

    2. Syria, Iraq and Jordan could unite as one Sunni Arab country as “Assyria”, with a Christian minority?

    Syria, Iraq and to lesser extent Jordan have spent the last decade falling apart into cultural and religious shards. The Ottomans kept them all together using Christian slave soldiers. That won’t fly in the age of the AK-47. (But see #5 below.)

    3. Israel gave the West Bank back to Jordan/”Assyria” and the Gaza Strip to Egypt?

    They don’t want them. No one wants them. Israel would cheerfully pay Egypt several billions to accept Gaza as part of Egypt. Al-Sisi is not dumb. As to the West Bank, Jordan has said nada about resuming ownership of the place. Sandhurst graduate HRH Abdullah II isn’t dumb either.

    4. Israel otherwise annexed and incorporated each inch of land they ever conquered.

    Getting there slowly.

    5. Re 2., they excised out the Kurds and Shia regions which go to Turkey, Kurdistan or a large or small “Iraq” of marsh Arabs or marsh Arabs and Kurds?

    Turkey doesn’t want the Kurds they already have, let alone more of them. Iran ditto. Syria have been default accepting the Syrian Kurds because USAF. I expect that to change after the Dems next get the WH. As to the Shi’a, read this from today:

    New Middle East Alliance Shakes World Powers

    6. Turkey was punished more after WWI with territorial losses?

    The Ottoman Empire fell to bits, which was always going to happen. WW1 just was the final spark. Ataturk tried to MTGA but Erogan has come along to make Turkey crap again.

    How Turkey Committed Financial Suicide (yesterday)

    He has talent, real talent…

  216. Zatara

    the Guys doing their National Service?, carrying their weapons on the Trains on their way to and from their Training

    Once upon a time not so long ago that was standard in western armies. Your weapon went with you when you transferred or traveled to a new post. They also wore their uniforms in public with pride.

    Now they are taught to be as low profile as possible and the weapons are very securely locked up in armories.

  217. calli

    It’s good to see the return of Proper Punctuation to the Cat. Period.

    On the passing of the Troll Who Will Not Be Named, it’s just on a delay start – if you catch up on threads back far enough, you’ll find the odd growl and grumble about death threats and other such horrors.

    Unfortunate.

  218. calli

    And Nota, I noticed that “mole” slur. Hmmmmm.

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    Couple of years back, the NT hosted a national golf comp at Alice. Teams from each State and Territory were there.

    We got together 50 rock irons, and offered them for sale for $20 each at the opening function on the Sunday. We were all laughed at.

    An hour after the close of Day 1 on the Monday we were sold out.

  220. Roger

    Former long-serving NSW treasurer Michael Egan said the states’ rising debt levels were “very worrying”.

    Meanwhile, back in June ’18:

    Queensland’s state debt is set to increase to $83 billion in the next four years, with new Treasurer Jackie Trad saying she makes no apologies for spending to drive the economy.

  221. OldOzzie

    Greens’ plan to save world would ‘destroy’ Australia

    Joe Kelly
    Political Reporter


    The Greens, accused by Scott Morrison of posing a “real serious danger to Australia”, will today ­reveal plans to reduce military spending to bolster the foreign aid budget, fight climate change and promote gender equity.

    Under pressure from the Prime Minister and Coalition MPs over its radical social, security and environmental agenda, Greens leader Richard Di Natale will today launch the party’s policy on “peace and demilitarisation”.

    Ahead of a speech today at the Development Policy Institute in Canberra, Senator Di Natale launched an attack on the major parties, accusing them of turning Australia into “one of the world’s largest arms dealers”.

    he Greens extreme plan would see Australia junk the US alliance, with Senator Di Natale arguing it should be renegotiated in the age of Donald Trump.

    He told The Australian yesterday defence funding should be ­redirected to lift the aid budget to achieve the target of 0.7 per cent of gross national income by 2030.

    That would result in Australia walking away from the goal of lifting defence spending to 2 per cent of GDP by 2020-21.

    Mr Morrison yesterday sought to challenge Bill Shorten over Labor’s relationship with the Greens after moving to defuse the attack against the government over where it would place One ­Nation on Liberal how-to-vote cards.

    “The Greens have opposed us on almost every element of ­national security legislation we have put into this parliament,” he said. “They have actively worked against the safety of Australians. So I don’t think there’s any comfort in the Greens’ position either.

    “There’s a lot of parties who have a lot of extreme positions.’’

    The Greens policy also calls for the closure of all foreign military bases in Australia, the introduction of powers ensuring parliament has the final say on when we go to war and the establishment of an independent body to monitor the aid budget.

    “Australians want our nation to spread peace and prosperity not weapons and war,” Senator Di ­Natale told The Australian.

    “Should we be a compassionate and generous leader lifting people out of poverty or one of the world’s largest arms dealers?”

    The announcement comes one day after the Greens unveiled a plan to phase out the burning and export of thermal coal over a decade — a move that would kill the $25 billion-a-year export industry.

    Other Greens policies include the introduction of a universal basic income — which some ­analysts have said would require an ­increase in public spending of $254bn a year.

    The party has also defended the abolition of offshore processing, scrapping of private health ­insurance rebates, phasing out of negative gearing and capital gains tax discounts as well as the junking of the Australian Building and Construction Commission.

    It has endorsed tax increases including a $20bn super profits tax on oil, gas and mining giants and the introduction of a $14bn econo­my-wide carbon price. Greens policy would also decriminalise personal use, possession and non-commercial sale of drugs.

    Assistant Minister for Treasury and Finance Zed Seselja yesterday said the Greens were “an extreme party whose policies would make Australians less safe and would ­destroy our economy”.

    “Whether it’s their open border policies, whether it’s their policies to destroy entire industries such as coal or whether it’s their policies to tax Australians out of existence, they are an extremist party that have an agenda that can only be destructive for Australia,’’ he said.

    Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce yesterday said One Nation was run by “fools” but warned the Greens agenda was economically dangerous. “Labor Party do not get in without the Greens,” he said.

    Greens defence spokesman Peter Whish-Wilson said the Greens would “close the book on spending billions on the military and instead tackle poverty, gender equity and climate change”.

  222. .

    Communist Party General Secretary Jackie Trad no longer apologises for each Great Leap Backwards!

  223. lotocoti

    New Hampshire is an exception because of local characteristics

    Is local characteristics some sort of code?
    (You’ll have to hunt down NH yourself.)

  224. Arky:

    However, if you lot want to build a party around me , note that I will require an initiation ceremony that most of you won’t be up for.

    Read the fine print, comrades.
    The prick wants someone to degrease the Model A’s engine sump.

  225. OldOzzie

    Wayne Swan, taking down the rich from within, with free champagne

    RICK MORTON

    Wayne Swan, who spent so long looking for a surplus, had to settle for decadent excess instead at the $5000-a-head dinner with the billionaire Pratt family on Wednesday night.

    He says he’s never been a fan of the richest 0.1 per cent but a Visy cardboard box has more spine on that front. At least the alcohol content of the fine bubbles was closer to 12.5 per cent, which, if you squint, is almost a win for the proletariat.

    The Pratts are good friends of the Labor Party. Bill Shorten, particularly, whose former wife Debbie Beale was treated as part of the family by Jeanne and her late husband Richard Pratt.

    Swan wrote in his March 2013 Monthly essay on the subject: “I fear Australia’s … success has never been in more jeopardy than right now because of the rising power of vested interests.

    “It’s that tiny 1 per cent, or even 0.1 per cent, who are trying to drown out the others … blind to the national interest, and who pour their considerable personal fortunes into advertising, armies of lobbyists, dodgy modelling and corporate and commercial manoeuvring designed to influence editorial decisions.”

    Mr Class Warfare himself is, of course, happy for a ceasefire when the dinner service favours his own. As new ALP national president, Swan has made inequality his cause celebre and indulged it, once again, on what was presumably a research trip to the top end of town. The beef alone would have been worth a chunk of a cleaner’s salary.

    Maybe he was bothered by extreme wealth only when it came to the miners, the people he refused to consult before losing the battle of the mining tax.

    Raheen, the east Melbourne compound the Pratt family call home, could be worth more than $100 million, property experts say. A fraction of the $700m in savings Swan orchestrated by booting single parents, most of them mothers, off parenting payments and on to the dole.

    Swan also copped it when he said families with a household income of $150,000 in Sydney were rich enough, when tinkering with the family payments system.

    Having just returned from the Global Solutions Summit in Berlin (flying business-class free and with free accommodation at the Radisson Blu Hotel) in his capacity as a commissioner with the independent Commission for Reform of International Corporate Taxation, one has to wonder whether this subject came up on Wednesday night.

    If you think about it, however, drinking a billionaire’s booze and hoovering up the hors d’oeuvres is the ultimate act of wealth redistribution. Well played.

  226. Tel

    Is local characteristics some sort of code?

    There he goes dog whistling again.

    Anything you can say, we can find the dog whistle … that’s how the game works, isn’t that right?

  227. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Greens, accused by Scott Morrison of posing a “real serious danger to Australia”, will today ­reveal plans to reduce military spending to bolster the foreign aid budget, fight climate change and promote gender equity.accelerate white genocide

    fixings

  228. Knuckle Dragger

    But enough frippery about golf.

    I want to hear more about how the spastic herder was unwillingly forced into going to war for the Evil Empire.

    Bob, watch Avatar once more before you get back to us.

  229. Eyrie

    “and the Gaza Strip to Egypt?”
    Are you sure they’d want it. It is full of stroppy Paleos.

  230. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rock iron?
    Isn’t that a 2 iron used left-handed or a well abused putter?

    For use in the jungle where Tigers prowl.

    WATCH: Tiger Woods makes insane left-handed par save at WGC-Match Play (28 Mar)

    But Woods decided he could take a swipe at it. He got down on one knee and assumed a modified left-handed stance (!), the toe of the club pointed toward the ground. With a flick of the wrists, the ball popped out of the bushes and rolled onto the green just four feet from the cup.

    Woods made that putt to save par and halve the hole in what was easily one of his most creative shots since his comeback began in early 2018.

    I got a lot of use out of my 5 iron in the rough at Hillsborough. The rough was a 30 m tall eucalyptus forest both side of every fairway.

  231. Pedro the Ignorant

    There are towns in Australia that are dangerous, dysfunctional and effectively lawless due to alcohol and drug abuse by feral inhabitants who believe the law does not apply to them.

    They are financed by mugs called ratepayers and taxpayers and the proceeds of crimes like drug dealing, burglaries, shoplifting, car theft and muggings.

    Avoid like the plague if possible, or if you have to travel through, don’t stop for anything, keep your car doors locked and windows closed.

    A well directed bulldozer would do wonders for some of these shitholes.

  232. Knuckle Dragger

    Pedro,

    Word.

    Testify.

  233. Eyrie

    Allegedly there have been carjackings/attempted carjackings in Toowoomba. Anyone have any details?

  234. Zatara

    Greens defence spokesman Peter Whish-Wilson said the Greens would “close the book on spending billions on the military and instead tackle poverty, gender equity and climate change”.

    I’m afraid to imagine what spending billions on “gender equity” might look like.

  235. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There are towns in Australia that are dangerous, dysfunctional and effectively lawless due to alcohol and drug abuse by feral inhabitants who believe the law does not apply to them.

    When the Mabo judgement was extended to the mainland, the police sergeant at one wheatbelt town received a deputation of the local tribal elders, who informed him that “Mabo means we don’t have to follow Whitefella’s law any more.”

    They were soon disabused of that notion…

  236. feelthebern

    Facebook time.
    We have arguments in my office regarding tea.
    We don’t make pots.
    Can anyone recommend a tea that comes in bag form that doesn’t need sugar & milk to cover up the awful, non-pot tea taste?

  237. Diogenes

    I’m afraid to imagine what spending billions on “gender equity” might look like.

    It means the money that currently spent by defence on gender re-assignment surgery will be transferred to a new government department

  238. Zatara

    “Mabo means we don’t have to follow Whitefella’s law any more.”

    “If it does it means no more centerlink either matey. Care to actually read it now?”

  239. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Wayne Swan, who spent so long looking for a surplus, had to settle for decadent excess instead at the $5000-a-head dinner with the billionaire Pratt family on Wednesday night.

    It’s not that leftoids hate the rich, it’s that they hate not being the rich.

  240. MatrixTransform

    matrixperson misleads

    the psycho is back with the scalpel and the scripture

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