Monday Forum: April 1, 2019

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  1. EV’s are still in unproven testing mode, future white elephants, similar to Concord.

    EVs have been around since the 1920s. They have a long and interesting history. The development of efficient internal combustion engines, and the rollout of POL infrastructure pushed them into the background for decades.

    The two barriers to growth in sales in Australia are lack of infrastructure and government inertia. This will change.

    There is no sense in attempting statistical comparisons yet with ICE’s, if ever.

    Translation – My assertion isn’t backed up by facts, so I’ll walk away from it.

  2. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Why are we having a discussion about the idiocy of the electric vehicle?

    Oh, that’s right. the rest of the world is doing it and we need to catch up?

    Where have I heard that before?
    Europe’s car makers are being forced to phase out internal combustion, they aren’t doing it by choice.
    They are moving to the USA.
    Europe and the rest of the world are doing nothing of the sorts of things claimed here.
    And looking at the yellow vests in Paris, it’s exactly this sort of shit they’ve been rioting about for months, although blacked out by the same media telling us we must catch up with a failing Europe.

    In Australia the correct term to use when talking about this automotive insanity would be to firstly give them a name………………CCASV’s Coal Charged Acid Storage Vehicles, or Coal Powered Battery Pack CCBP vehicles, and then realise this is what all UN controlled governments are doing at the moment, claiming “everyone else is doing it”
    I’m sure the Germans have just heard how Australia is going to be 50% electric vehicles by (magically) 2030 and they need to catch up with us.
    Classic propaganda.
    They are “gunnas” but like power generation, Australia will be the only country that actually does it, just like Climate Change targets.

    Only city people would contemplate this, and then only the very insulated from how the world works.
    In other words, inner city green voters.

    IT CANNOT AND WILL NOT HAPPEN in Australia.
    Before that came to pass, our economy would have collapsed to the point the only decision you’ll be concerned about is tying to but pneumatic tyres for your cart.

    This again is the reason I didn’t spend thousands on solar panels.
    Once we needed them, I knew there wouldn’t be enough time for savings to pay for initial outlay, before the economy was wrecked enough to not be worth it.
    This is understanding that everything you purchase costs more to produce and store etc, plus exorbitant base load rates caused by bloody subsidised bullshit like solar panels in the first place, put together doesn’t add up.
    Neither will an electric car.
    The extra tax needed to subsidies them, means they are a burden on the nation as a whole and will cost you more in the long run.
    It’s just plain old socialism.

    But we get bogged down in the details like fools.
    It’s exactly what the left want us to do.
    Just like arguing the so called science of climate gate.

    We need to focus our attention on the big picture, and swallow your fear of being seen as some wack job conspiracy theorist, and put two and two together.

    I was in Europe only a couple of years ago, and there’s hardly an electric vehicle on the road, and if it weren’t subsidised you’d see none.
    If you are buying a subsidised product, and you have a choice, an interesting argument would be as to whether you are part of the problem or not.

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Look, what I meant to say was that for a six footer guy he should not have tried to drive a small VW.
    No. Even that is now sounding obscene. Morning tea time.

  4. It is pretty obvious numbers is caricaturing himself as a parody of a left winger:

    He is very anti-American and hates the NRA and wants “assault weapons” banned in Australia, holidays in the US, shoots on the NRA range for free, expending hundreds of dollars of ammunition on fully auto firearms; also says people can turn into dangerous lunatics in a heartbeat;

    Has owned three VW Beetles in his lifetime before their millennial makeover, he was also a recent Prius owner.

    It’s almost as if he’s trying to get people fired up and clock on his link and buy his book.

    SHILL ALERT!

    Just pay for a %$#*ing banner ad you cheap bastard. “CatallaxyFiles, sponsored by Bob Bobby Bob…”

  5. Tom

    LOL. Victimology 101:

    Putra Setiaji, the 21-year-old “former” Wings Air First Officer arrested for stealing a wrist watch from the Inti Dufree Promosindo outlet in the Domestic Departure Terminal at Bali’s Airport on Tuesday, January 29, 2019, is seeking leniency from the Denpasar Courts, pleading he is a chronic kleptomaniac, unable to control the urge to commit larceny.

    Javanese moozleys have the game sewn up.

  6. A boyfriend of mine found out about that the hard way. Luckily, he walked away uninjured from that.

    Your boyfriend must have been a twit.
    I did a 180 on a wet and greasy road in the first 6 months of Beetle ownership (1964 oval window version).
    I learned from that, and never went near doing it again in any of the VWs I owned. Later models sorted that problem.
    Funny thing is, historically Porches are rear weight biased, but are probably the most responsive handling car on the market in the hands of a competent driver.

  7. Not Uh oh

    feelthebern
    #2977319, posted on April 2, 2019 at 8:29 am
    FMD.
    & numbers derails another thread.

    Numbers derails nothing – it is the inability of people to ignore him that derails things.

  8. Mother Lode

    What is it with these statists who want to have shit dictated to them?

    These statists imagine they will be doing the dictating.

    They never imagine themselves standing on a production line as anonymous and precisely monitored as the products that slowly file past.

  9. Johno

    Hay Stockard,
    How are you?. It always amuses me when lefties try to make out that Diggers have been abandoned by the gov of the day. You would have a Gold Card. That is worth thousands.
    I have had two knee replacements, 4 spinal fusions and a prostate removal, plus a few others on it. I was flown to Brisbane for the prostate, keyhole surgery, all private ward, Doctor of choice. No worries.
    I guess if you are fishing for victim status like Sniffy then any meme will do.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My assertion isn’t backed up by facts, so I’ll walk away from it.

    As usual, shifting goal posts.

    I’ve asserted only that Teslas blow up badly. Fires in Teslas are very bad indeed. There is no adequate statistical set of comparitors with ICE cars that controls for historical and current usage factors; nor are the comparitors equivalent. Apples and oranges; basic error.

    I don’t do bad statistical science. I leave that to the climate modellers.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    The Trabant, not so much.
    The issue was the engineering, not the political makeup of the host country.

    Oh dear.
    The myopic stupid, it burns.
    The shitty engineering and lack of innovation was actually a function of the Communist state sponsorship of a single model market.
    For homework moron … name one Western Trabant equivalent which survived for 33 years with a largely unchanged design.

     The 1980s model had no tachometer, no headlights or turn signals indicator, no fuel gauge, no rear seat belts, no external fuel door, and drivers had to pour a mix of gasoline and oil directly under the bonnet/hood.

  12. he was also a recent Prius owner.

    Fantasy.
    I’ve never owned a Prius.
    I have driven plenty as fleet vehicles, as well as Camry Hybrids, a vehicle with great overtaking performance, and very cheap to run.
    The Camrys used to overtake three dog road trains on the Warrego quicker than anything else in the fleet with the abundant torque from the electric motor. They were, as a consequence, in great demand by fleet drivers.
    They were also comfortable, well appointed, and very safe.

  13. Mater

    As I recall, the Volkswagen Beetle was actually pretty successful.
    They made and sold 21 million.

    A real life socialist success story!

  14. Leigh Lowe

    I have had two knee replacements, 4 spinal fusions and a prostate removal, plus a few others on it. I was flown to Brisbane for the prostate, keyhole surgery, all private ward, Doctor of choice. No worries.

    You lucky, lucky bastard.
    What I wouldn’t give to have … no wait … you’re welcome to it.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just putting this here.

    VW Beetle wiki

    The need for a people’s car (Volkswagen in German), its concept and its functional objectives were formulated by the leader of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler, who wanted a cheap, simple car to be mass-produced for his country’s new road network. Lead engineer Ferdinand Porsche and his team took until 1938 to finalise the design. The influence on Porsche’s design of other contemporary cars, such as the Tatra V570, and the work of Josef Ganz remains a subject of dispute.[16] The result was the first Volkswagen, and one of the first rear-engined cars since the Brass Era. With 21,529,464 produced,[17] the Beetle is the longest-running and most-manufactured car of a single platform ever made.

    Socialists have a fetish about peoples’ cars.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    he was also a recent Prius owner

    The “r” is silent.

  17. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Her ShortenUberFuhrer charges an EV photo-op

    is he going to hold the charger for the full charge of 60 mins. what an idiot.

  18. bespoke

    Numbers derails nothing – it is the inability of people to ignore him that derails things.

    Just as annoying as people telling others what to say.

  19. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I have driven plenty as fleet vehicles, as well as Camry Hybrids, a vehicle with great overtaking performance, and very cheap to run.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. camry hybrid…. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA overtaking performance BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH oh god!

  20. struth

    And here we see numbers enthusiastically embracing electric vehicles.
    He is not an automotive expert.
    He is a failed old school principal.

    But he will argue until he is blue in the face that it’s the right way to go.

    Why?
    Tribally, for him, his side of politics is pushing it, so that’s all ignorance needs to know.

    As for some body like me, a diesel Heavy vehicle mechanic who has had a life of supplying and interconnecting businesses from one side of Australia to the other, and who understands first hand the brilliance of the interconnection of business in a free market capitalist country, on Australian roads, city and country, let me assure you, this EV proposition will, combined with what is happening now (no more bad policy needed) will ensure, without a doubt, the destruction of the country….literally, it will be as bad as Venezuela.
    People will understand this isn’t Europe the had way.
    But they won’t be able to do it in Europe or anywhere that is first world, without making it third world.

    I’ll just remind all you left wing imbeciles out there that for a thousand reasons it is totally impracticle, and your inner city, drive to the corner shops world is supplied by not only trucks, but cars doing large distances.

    Can you imagine all the different problems of national collapse I am seeing in my head right now, understanding how different areas for different reasons need to call for an extra fuel tanker or two because the are having some event in their town, like a field day, or a hippy left wing music fest…………….
    I could go on, this is alljust insane………………
    They are basically telling you that the plan to have the revolution done and dusted by 2030 is coming along nicely, Gramsci’s smug as a bug, France and the EU are ignoring the will of the people, so is England, and so is Australia’s political class.
    And we get bogged down discussing the technical issues of something that will never happen, because if it does, we’ll be back to mule and cart, and dung fires when permitted.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    ScoMo should announce that all Com Cars will be replaced with electric cars before the election.
    For the sake of the planet.
    Labor and the Greens couldn’t complain about that.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m guessing Numbers is a small man, aspirant trend-setter in an early Beetle. And yes, just like Numbers, that boyfriend was an aspirant twit. Not arguing there. He caught the wheel on a median strip. In any ordinary car he would have been able to correct the lurch. In a tight V-dub with a spinning end, he flipped.

    Stop addressing me by name, Numbers, as I feel politely bound to answer. Way I am. Torn between polite self-defense and compliance with Cat Coventry. Numbers is nonsensical and shown once again to be so. It really is morning tea time now.

  23. bespoke

    I’m guessing Numbers is a small man

    Catcheck: Part True.

    small man big chip.

  24. Johno

    ” Stop addressing me by name, Numbers,”

    So you feel it to Lizzie? In a perfect world sniffy would be curled up at your feet, waiting for recognition.

    For him to use your name and somehow claim an equivalence is the height of disrespect.

    Fido McSniffy. Has a nice ring to it,.

  25. struth

    The Camrys used to overtake three dog road trains on the Warrego

    Thee is no such thing as a three dog road train SNIFFY Mc BOWTIEANDLONGSOCKS
    There is only one dog trailer.
    The last one.

  26. Electric vehicles may have a place for inner-urban travel, although their tendency to incinerate their occupants is a hurdle yet to be overcome.

    That was your original post.

    Then –

    As usual, shifting goal posts.

    Then –

    I’ve asserted only that Teslas blow up badly.

    So, you’ve gone from “tendency to incinerate their occupants” to “blow up badly”.

    Do tell, how do they blow up well?
    There is nothing to back up your assertion, and you know it.
    In the meantime, this is a fairly common occurrence at the top of the Toowoomba range – https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/family-escapes-car-fire-toowoomba-range/3319939/
    It happens about once per month. You can check the firie callouts.
    Funny thing is that the story never goes beyond the Toowoomba Chronicle.

    Now, if it was a Tesla…..

  27. Statistical outrider
    Three dog road train
    Locked and loaded

    More please.

  28. Now, if it was a Tesla…..

    It would have never of made it that far.

  29. Johno

    There was a discussion here some time ago about a liquid, charged with electricity that could be pumped out when depleted and replaced by charged liquid at a servo. That could work, but it would still have to be charged somewhere and the only way to do that is with coal.

    EVs’ would have to replace all the diesel and gas now being used. How?

  30. Dragnet

    I had a Beetle for several years and normally would swing in to defend them but at the moment the experience seems a bit tainted ☹. He has that effect.

  31. Numbers is nonsensical and shown once again to be so. It really is morning tea time now.

    Lizzie, when asked to back up an unfounded assertion goes ad hom, then disappears.

  32. Mother Lode

    I warned you all.

    Lefties do not argue with reason.

    They argue with an alternative set of facts.

    Their great ‘clincher’ is never something discovered by deduction, inference, consistency with established facts, hypothesising and testing etc – they always end up blurting out a great big ‘fact’ which is in fact a nonsense.

    Rocketing temperatures, up-welling of the oceans and accelerating disasters due to global warming. The well established misdeeds and collusion knelling the end of the Trump Presidency. The experts who have declared that wireless would never be able to deliver the bandwidth or speed of the NBN.

  33. Cactus

    On electric cars. My phone is 2 years old. Went from a 2 days between charging to now about 8 hrs. What is the range going to be on a 12 yr old EV. Im the type that likes to run a combustion car into the ground too. A Japanese car will do 20 years easy on regular servicing.

  34. mh

    Liberty Quote

    When I ask that discussion on topics end, or I (reluctantly) add to the list of words that go into auto-moderation I am not inviting everyone to come up with cute and clever work-arounds. I am inviting everyone to cease and desist using particular words and phrases

    — Sinclair Davidson

  35. Elle

    Snoopy,
    I saw you here last night at 9:25pm:

    Sinc: When I ask that discussion on topics end, or I (reluctantly) add to the list of words that go into auto-moderation I am not inviting everyone to come up with cute and clever work-arounds. I am inviting everyone to cease and desist using particular words and phrases.

    Snoopy: First they came for the Joos ……

    Thanks, Sinc, it’s been fun.

    All the best.

    Snoopy, darling, you didn’t flounce did you? I hope not. I will miss those cute floppy ears.
    By the way; half puttanesca, half mushroom with a vodka, soda and fresh lime.
    😉

  36. Mother Lode

    ScoMo should announce that all Com Cars will be replaced with electric cars before the election.
    For the sake of the planet.

    Yes!

    The more time they are standing around recharging stations the less time they will be in parliament passing more of their ill-thought out legislation.

  37. I was right:

    The experts who have declared that wireless would never be able to deliver the bandwidth or speed of the NBN.

    The NBN will never be completed and cost more than 250 bnAUD +

    Also, 5G will come in before it is finished, plus we could have had vectored DSL; but ALSO: before Rudd began the NBN nonsense, the private sector was ALREADY installing 100 Mbps on new estates back in 2007.

    The NBN speed is only really around 25-50 Mbps.

    I pointed all of this out YEARS ago, as in back in 2007-2010.

  38. struth

    Lefties have no idea about the real world, hence like SNIFFY McHANDONIT, the ae usually tax hoovers and parasites..

    Now smug BIL who I only see at Christmas by force, was telling me two Christmas’s back that Trump was going down, whereas everyone agreed.
    I said straight out, they have nothing on him and you poor buggers need to stop listening to the ABC communists.
    I’ll make a bet on it.
    No one took me up.
    Now I may have to go aound and see him!
    Nah, it’s not worth it.
    However, he’s the same bloke who thought everyone should have a cow so that tankers like the truck I was driving at the time, were not needed.

    The stupid was so insane, I was gobsmacked, so I said, yeah cows are great at anticipating just how much milk you’ll need for the day.
    If they produce too much, will you send it to the people who’s cows haven’t any green feed, or just waste it?

    This is the level of industrial ignorance these people show.
    In everything else, he’s quite a bight bloke, doesn’t even drink.

  39. bespoke

    Hear we go, me! me! me! look at me!

  40. 5G SPEED: 20 GBps

    THE VIRGIN NBN VS CHAD 5G OUGHT TO BE MEMED

  41. Cactus

    Also for us to go to 100% EVs we would need another 20% of our present electrcity consumption. For renewables to power the grid we would also need things like Snowy which require more generation and cost 30% of the electricity generated to pay for storage costs. Lot of inefficiencies here.

  42. What Tesla says –

    Tesla claims that gasoline powered cars are about 11 times more likely to catch fire than a Tesla. It says the best comparison is fires per 1 billion miles driven. It says the 300,000 Teslas on the road have been driven a total of 7.5 billion miles, and about 40 fires have been reported. That works out to five fires for every billion miles traveled, compared to a rate of 55 fires per billion miles traveled in gasoline cars.

    What an independent study has found* –

    The propensity and severity of fires and explosions from … lithium-ion battery systems are anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels, according to the results of an in-depth investigation into the relative fire risks of the two types of vehicles conducted by Battelle for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in 2017.

    *Battelle Research 2017

    What Lizzie says –

    Electric vehicles may have a place for inner-urban travel, although their tendency to incinerate their occupants is a hurdle yet to be overcome.

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So, you’ve gone from “tendency to incinerate their occupants” to “blow up badly”.

    Oh Woot. That’s exactly the same thing. I’ve ‘gone from’ A to A.
    Blast furnace heat that’s hard to escape=incineration. Instant on impact.
    I’ll take my chances with a tried and tested ICE any day vs a hair-triggered explosive-on-wheels.
    Lithium batteries are lethal in so many ways – in garages and out of them.

  44. struth

    Australia’s leading libertarian and centre-right blog

    When I ask that discussion on topics end, or I (reluctantly) add to the list of words that go into auto-moderation I am not inviting everyone to come up with cute and clever work-arounds. I am inviting everyone to cease and desist using particular words and phrases

    — Sinclair Davidson

  45. Hay Stockard

    Johno,
    I’m good apart from a bad attack of aging. At least that has cured the priapism that had plagued me since puberty.
    Last year I had an aorta replaced at St Vincent’s Private. 8 hours on the slab under one of the best in the business. Lovely lady whose husband had been a ginger beer. Red wine with my dinner. Food more than acceptable. Foxtel. In there for two weeks.
    As well as the medical appointments and procedures being paid for DVA pays for my cab fares in and out.
    And their phone staff are outstanding.
    I certainly have no complaints that way. Although successive governments penny pinch and chip away at things.

  46. Dear struth
    To tell the truth
    Hippity hoppity
    This blog is private property

  47. mh

    Snoopy understands Libertarianism and politics, Elle.

    You do not.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m happy to not talk about Teslas any more for today, Struth. 🙂
    But the general case of e-vehicles, that is a topic that won’t go way.
    As with some other topics where trigger words apply.
    Politics and economics have such a disconcerting way of interlocking.

  49. struth

    Business can’t keep the lights on and are being told to power down by government during hot days, and now they are pushing coal powered cars?

    In Britain they call this “havin’ a larf”

  50. Elle

    Mh, stop dissing Sinc. 😁

  51. Mother Lode

    In everything else, he’s quite a bight bloke, doesn’t even drink.

    Oops. I typo, I think.

    If he doesn’t drink, then I assume you meant he was a blight bloke.

  52. It is insane struth.

    Recharge time for a Tesla with the best charging equipment is 75 minutes.

    Commuters don’t want this and businesses cannot afford that inefficiency.

  53. Elle

    As Sinc suggested last night, mh, go and open up your own blogs.

  54. struth

    I know that dot, what’s your point?

    If I get told my pie has mushrooms and it has none, am I only allowed to comment if the bakery is government owned?

    And it’s not a complaint, just an observation, really to just remind us of where we are at.

  55. John Constantine

    5000 greens voters all stuck out at a bush doof music and pill festival, waiting for their fair and equal turn at the power point to charge up their electric cars.

    Patience, Comrades.

  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tea, tea, tea. Glorious tea an a bikkie. Not a TimTam, which should be a banned word in these days of calorific purity and anti-carbohydrate feelz. Calocarbophobia, I call it.

  57. Johno:

    The following is a very rare piece of film, 99 years old. It shows Baron Von Richthofen, doing an external prior to a mission, as well as his putting on a flying suit prior to flight in cold weather. If you look closely you will notice Hermann Goering.

    Goering in dress uniform @3.05? Left side of screen?
    This will make a good project for enhancement/restoration.

  58. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Patience, Comrades.

    LOL Farmer John. You are a gem. That image is perfection itself.

  59. struth

    5000 greens voters all stuck out at a bush doof music and pill festival, waiting for their fair and equal turn at the power point to charge up their electric cars.

    Patience, Comrades.</blockquote

    A smart man would stick a genset on a drop deck and roam the highways parking outside of said doof doof gigs to charge for recharge prices to make a scalper blush.

  60. bespoke

    Ageing fan girl, Sad.

  61. Eyrie

    “1964 oval window version.”
    The 1958 model year did away with the oval rear window.

  62. struth

    my R button is playing up.
    Please excuse me.

  63. Tom

    The Tesla Prius is the flagship of our Venezuelan utopia.

    Comrades.

  64. Overburdened

    Some things don’t change.
    Polluting old kombis and other types of unmaintained, smoke belching vans plastered with ‘solar not nuclear’ and more recently ‘no fracking’ stickers.
    Fat bastards with a durrie hanging out of their mouths claiming to be disadvantaged while sucking on the tit and making no effort to advance themselves.
    Affluent virtue signallers who can afford a Prius to save the planet who chew up air miles and other such earth non friendly activities to be pampered in Countries where the average person may have a bicycle if they are lucky.
    The Weekend Australian running it’s socially aware campaigns for the poor benighted special people of Australia while flogging full paid ads for luxury holidays.

    The self delusion is strong.

  65. Mother Lode

    my R button is playing up.
    Please excuse me.

    At least you get to talk about that Taant fellow in NZ.

  66. Twitter did an Oopsie!

    Conservative Movie “Unplanned” Being Censored By Twitter?!

    Tim Pool
    Published on Apr 1, 2019

    Conservative Movie “Unplanned” Being Censored By Twitter?! A conservative film called Unplanned was briefly suspended by Twitter and as per usual it was later restored with Twitter saying it was just another mistake.

  67. John Constantine:

    An entire level of a dogbox apartment development, crush packed full of lithium battery vehicles on chargers.

    That’s a nightmare scenario. The heat alone would cause structural failure, wouldn’t it?
    How would you get everyone out? You’d need a cleared landing area on the top and a fleet of choppers just to even attempt a rescue.

  68. Hay Stockard

    Just found out that bagpipes are a Greek invention spread by the Romans.
    Those Ancients have a lot to answer for.

  69. Elle

    Bespoke! You’re obsessed with me. I understand. It’s ok.

    Your grandma is long overdue for a visit. Sad, but actually very funny. 🤣

  70. bespoke

    Eyrie
    #2977480, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:14 am
    “1964 oval window version.”
    The 1958 model year did away with the oval rear window.

    Sideshow bob rakes again.

  71. Statistical outrider
    Three dog road train
    Locked and loaded
    1964 oval window version

    More please.

  72. Macbeth

    Johno, you are correct. Without Vet Affairs and a Gold card I could not have survived to 95+.

  73. Farmer Gez

    What happens when the inner suburban super woke folk park the Tesla in the garage with the battery bank for the solar system?
    Fourth of July Baby!!

  74. bespoke

    Elle
    #2977489, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:19 am
    Bespoke! You’re obsessed with me. I understand. It’s ok.

    Your grandma is long overdue for a visit. Sad, but actually very funny. 🤣

    Prove it?

    and whats with my grandma? they are dead.

  75. Overburdened

    At the risk of being repetitive, no one is poor and without hope while there is Centrelink.
    The issue is that every bleating bastard wants what everyone else has disregarding the fact that motivation followed by action is the way to succeed.
    The problem is that in the vote harvesting stakes pollies of every stripe keep the illusion going that they will make it happen and people not only believe them, but get upset when they find out it’s just bullshit.

  76. struth

    If you are fat, you ain’t poor.
    If you have a smart phone, you ain’t poor.
    Prove otherwise

  77. Elle

    No need to prove it, bespoke. I post, you pounce. It’s there for all to see. You must be bored … and often.

    Tea break here too, Lizzie. Almonds and an apple for me though 🙂

  78. mh

    Elle
    #2977463, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:06 am
    Mh, stop dissing Sinc. 😁

    Sinclair, tear down this banner

    Australia’s leading libertarian and centre-right blog

    How the hell is this blog libertarian when the host tells you what subjects are verboten?

  79. Confused Old Misfit

    A couple of reality checks for the climate alarmists.
    1. Australian Daily Electrical Power Generation Data – Sunday 31st March 2019 – Plus Weekly And Rolling Totals
    Renewables will never replace coal.
    2. The new, safer nuclear reactors that might help stop climate change
    But you’re not really serious about stopping climate change are you?
    It’s really all about the POWER. The Political POWER.
    News Flash: The climate will change.

  80. Matrix Transorm:

    Tossla … turning a 10 hr trip into a 16 hr trip …just like that

    The nearest supercharger is out of range for me…

  81. Roger

    Renewables will never replace coal.

    That fact won’t stop them trying.

  82. struth

    But you’re not really serious about stopping climate change are you?
    It’s really all about the POWER. The Political POWER.

    YAY………
    Liberty quote.

  83. How the hell is this blog libertarian when the host tells you what subjects are verboten?

    Because he isn’t the government.

  84. bespoke

    Elle
    #2977499, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:31 am
    No need to prove it, bespoke. I post, you pounce. It’s there for all to see. You must be bored … and often.

    No need for evidence just accusation is enough. # me too

  85. stackja

    mh
    #2977500, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:32 am

    The Cat may disappear soon. Then what?

  86. Roger

    The Cat may disappear soon. Then what?

    Samizdat.

  87. lotocoti

    when the host tells you what subjects are verboten?

    Would you be prepared to lose your livelihood?

  88. Mother Lode

    The Cat may disappear soon. Then what?

    Torches and pitchforks time?

  89. mh

    LEFT DEFENDS CREEPY JOE BIDEN’S GROPING AMID #METOO SCANDAL

    ‘He is extremely affectionate, extremely flirtatious in a completely safe way,’ claims Mika Brzezinski

    The Left is defending former Vice President Joe Biden’s habit of touching and groping women, claiming it’s just a harmless personality trait rather than inappropriate behavior.

    The View’s Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar, MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski, and the wife of Obama’s former Secretary of Defense Ash Carter defended Biden’s intent behind his groping, and even the groping itself.

    “We all know Joe Biden…He’s so friendly. He’s a close talker…He touches you. That’s what he’s like,” Behar gushed on Monday.

    Co-host Sunny Hostin added, “I don’t know if we’ll see anymore smelling of hair,” which triggered Goldberg.

    “That pisses me off. I don’t want Joe to stop doing that!” Goldberg exclaimed.

    Brzezinski told her audience that Biden is “extremely flirtatious” but in a “completely safe way.”…

    https://www.infowars.com/left-defends-creepy-joe-bidens-groping-amid-metoo-scandal/

  90. mh

    The Cat may disappear soon. Then what?

    I’ll most likely be reading American sites only.

  91. stackja

    Mohamed Noor trial: Court begins selecting jurors to hear Justine Ruszczyk shooting evidence
    By Associated Press
    11:08am Apr 2, 2019

    About 75 potential jurors filled out a questionnaire in a half-day session. The court will convene again Wednesday to give attorneys time to go through the answers ahead of directly questioning potential jurors.

  92. Zatara

    Statistical outrider
    Three dog road train
    Locked and loaded

    More please.

    Let’s not forget billboards selling bullet proof vests for children.

    AKA click-bait for the weak minded and gullible desperately seeking confirmation for their biases.

    In case it still hasn’t sunken in, it was a racist, leftwing, political attention getting stunt illustrated with a black kid in a water ski vest. They sold no vests and never intended to.

  93. bespoke

    I don’t expect Sinc to be a martyr for me.

  94. calli

    We need to focus our attention on the big picture, and swallow your fear of being seen as some wack job conspiracy theorist, and put two and two together.

    I have done that in recent months, struth.

    It’s amazing how many frightened old biddies come out of the woodwork. It goes like this:

    Calli – countercultural statement about, say, climate hoax

    Biddie – You can’t say that!

    Calli – I just did.

    Biddie (straightening shoulders and grinning) – I agree with you!

    😄

  95. stackja

    This cat was spotted effortlessly swimming across croc-infested waters to Channel Island. Picture: Debbie Louez

    Little Purrr-maid: Puss channels her inner sea lion as she swims across croc infested waters
    RAPHAELLA SAROUKOS, NT News
    April 2, 2019 12:30am
    Subscriber only

    MOVE over Aquaman, meet Aquacat.

    Debbie Louez and her husband were driving back from Channel Island when they spotted a strange figure gliding through the water.

    The pair stopped along the bridge and at first thought it was a log or a dog.

    “I said ‘it’s a bloody big log’ and then realised ‘oh sh*t it’s a cat’,” she said.

    “We watched it for a while, it swam towards the bridge and wasn’t stressed or crying out.”

    Research Institute for the Environment and Livelihoods associate professor Brett Murphy said the sight was rare but not unheard of.

    “They’re quite competent swimmers,” Professor Murphy said.

  96. Statistical outrider
    Three dog road train
    Locked and loaded
    1964 oval window version
    Gun control fake ads

    More please.

  97. mh

    lotocoti
    #2977512, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:43 am
    when the host tells you what subjects are verboten?

    Would you be prepared to lose your livelihood?

    So you know Sinclair is being told by state operatives that if the unmentionable religion is freely discussed he will never work again?

    That may be the case, you appear to know that is the case.

  98. Roger

    No collusion with Russians, but wait…Trump cheats at golf!

  99. notafan

    Could never happen here

    Lady Justice Hallett said that, as well as the men Beale falsely accused, the “system of justice” had suffered significant harm.

    She added: “The total of 10 years, although stern, we are satisfied cannot be described as excessive.”

    The judge told the court that one of the men Beale accused of rape in 2010, Mahad Cassim, was tried twice and jailed for seven years.

    His conviction was quashed by the Court of Appeal in 2015 after his defence team and the Crown Prosecution Service was alerted to serious doubts over Beale’s allegations.

    She had been awarded £11,000 by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority and had told a former girlfriend she had lied to get the money, the court heard.

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

  100. stackja

    mh
    #2977517, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:47 am
    The Cat may disappear soon. Then what?

    I’ll most likely be reading American sites only.

    I do both now.

  101. Mother Lode

    Mohamed Noor trial: Court begins selecting jurors to hear Justine Ruszczyk shooting evidence

    I hope they have an ample supply of kevlar – Noor has a superhuman talent.

    Of sorts.

  102. notafan

    I think that one particular subject has banned words because the blog owner is sick of it

    He said so last night

    That’s okay

    it’s his blog

  103. bespoke

    Government social engineering.

    We wont ban guns, sugar, cars etc but we will tax, regulate them out of your reach.

  104. stackja

    SA irrigators brace for 50 per cent cuts in water allocation as Murray- Darling crisis hits home
    Clare Peddie, Paula Thompson, The Advertiser
    April 1, 2019 10:02pm
    Subscriber only

    South Australian irrigators are expecting their water allocations to be cut in half from July 1, as the Murray-Darling Basin crisis hits home.

    Growers face the choice of finding funds to buy extra water at $500/ML, or cutting production and watching their plantings wither and die.

    In public meetings held from the Riverland to Langhorne Creek, irrigators have been warned to prepare for a dry season.

    The Murray-Darling Basin Authority says conditions are similar to autumn 2016, when basin-wide storage “bottomed out” at 28 per cent, and SA irrigators were only allowed to take 36 per cent of their water allocations.

    Allocations in SA have been at 100 per cent for the past three years.

    The authority’s head of river operations, Andrew Reynolds, said many irrigators in Victoria and NSW now faced zero allocations.

  105. Roger

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

    Lady Justice Hallett must be a very decent person; decent people often find it difficult to imagine the evil depths to which human nature can sink. However, in her position she ought not be so naive.

  106. RobK

    As I recall, the Volkswagen Beetle was actually pretty successful.
    They made and sold 21 million.

    A real life socialist success story!

    Didnt Ralf Nader do an elaborate road test in a report called “Unsafe at any Speed”. IIRC

  107. calli

    Because he isn’t the government.

    Simple, innit?

  108. Lady Justice Hallett has been spitting out the red cough formula.

    It’s as though it needs to be in sugar coated pill form, being the same colour and flavour.

    The idea that a woman could…

    That’s the problem. Women have also been taught to put other women on archetypal pedestals; not only men have been conditioned like this.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

    No.
    It doesn’t “beggar belief” at all.
    It is entirely to be expected in the brave new #metoo world, where white privilege must be punished.
    And a bit of compo for the patriarchial income gap is totally deserved.

  110. mh

    I think that one particular subject has banned words because the blog owner is sick of it

    I’m sick of I S L AM too, but I won’t bury my head in the sand.

  111. bespoke

    notafan
    #2977531, posted on April 2, 2019 at 11:55 am
    I think that one particular subject has banned words

    Sure, his property rites trumps all. But on a personal level it would be helpful for him to be clear on what subject’s are banned.

  112. notafan

    Lady Justice Hallett may be naive but she is highlighting the danger that a generous victim’s compensation scheme that assumes accusers always tell the truth presents.

    This danger is compounded by a police force and prosecution service that is eager to facilitate accuser lies even if they know they are lies.

    Remember that poor kid in Canberra who’s parents sold their home to pay his legal fees and the prosecutor withheld exculpatory evidence?

  113. calli

    Dad owned a Beetle for a time. Split screen, and iirc, those funny little indicator paddles.

    That spawn of satan used to backfire horribly and at the most embarassing times. It was evil. Fuel tank at the front. What could possibly go wrong?

  114. lotocoti

    So you know Sinclair…

    It may have escaped your notice, but our progressive friends have made several attempts to de-employ Doomie over the comment contents of this blog.

  115. Mater

    More please.

    1735099
    #2945957, posted on February 28, 2019 at 7:23 am

    (“Infest” is straight out of Mein Kampf)

  116. notafan

    LL it appears that this brazen cow picked a different demographic to accuse.

  117. Remember that poor kid in Canberra who’s parents sold their home to pay his legal fees and the prosecutor withheld exculpatory evidence?

    Bring it on back now.

    KALUMINATOR!

    http://www.prisonersofeternity.co.uk/roman-law/

    Because there was no Public Prosecutor it was felt necessary to dissuade people from overloading the judicial system with frivolous cases, and so as a deterrent a Prosecutor who failed to make his case could be branded on the forehead with the letter K for Kaluminator, or False Accuser, which could in effect ruin his career.

  118. mh

    It may have escaped your notice, but our progressive friends have made several attempts to de-employ Doomie over the comment contents of this blog.

    So you think they will stop now that Sinclair has caved on certain subjects? These socialist losers will only smell blood.

  119. calli

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

    Idiotic statement.

    Women have been doing evil things forever. What makes them exempt from perjury, murder, violence, larceny exactly?

    Unless Lady Judge thinks the conscience is located in the vagina.

  120. MatrixTransform

    60 to 75 minutes for a full recharge or top up? Your time is not worthless.

    and

    Lithium battery’s last longer and are safer when charged at a low rate in cool temperature. You can fast charge them but those factors drop.

    a 1 hr charge of ~100kW is gonna pull about 200 Amps!

  121. So you think they will stop now that Sinclair has caved on certain subjects? These socialist losers will only smell blood.

    You can’t teach a dog but you can hit him.

    They will always smell blood. We can’t teach the civility. We can only deter them.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

    I suspect that companies are being taken for hundreds of millions each year. A company today in the #metoo era is going to cough up instantly and quietly rather than see their name trashed in the MSM.

  123. notafan

    Progs are stunned that the existence of a generous compensation scheme would be the sole basis of false claims!

    when not to accept a decision by the jury

  124. calli

    Chortle.

    These academics survived!

    Bloodied but unbowed, they toil on at the Flinders Uni salt mine.

  125. Mater

    More please

    The Gulag Archipelago was a work of fiction.

  126. calli

    On the #metoo sham – not all women are believed, even when they won’t go quietly. It depends, you see.

  127. On Powering up the Tesla day one after EVs are mandated:
    Come home from picking up the kids from school, after school care.
    Plug the car in, just in case it’s needed later on.
    Put dinner on the stove.
    Poof!
    There goes the national electricity system as the evening peak goes through the roof.
    Imagine that evening spike doubling?

  128. Overburdened

    When I read about President Trump allegedly cheating at golf, I had two thoughts.
    Of all the claims made against his character, cheating in a game is one of the worst things to be accused of.
    The Left have nothing and will still ultimately have their way and fuck the whole show.

    Maybe Big Audio Dynamite was writing about The President in their famous song Medicine Show.

  129. Baldrick

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

    Geoff Chambers @Chambersgc (The Oz)
    The ABC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

  130. mh

    calli
    #2977546, posted on April 2, 2019 at 12:10 pm
    Dad owned a Beetle for a time..

    My Dad had a couple. I remember he shut the door on my fingers once.

    He later bought a new Golf, which lasted only a few weeks when he rolled it. Allegedly.

    I’m convinced VW is evil.

  131. Roger

    Progs are stunned that the existence of a generous compensation scheme would be the sole basis of false claims!

    The fatal progressive mistake was dismissing the doctrine of original sin and imagining that people are not inclined to evil unless restrained by some interior (a properly formed conscience) or exterior (the power of the sword that the state bears) force but are perfectible. This mistaken assumption has been the source of much of the mischief in modern society, especially in regard to crime and punishment..

  132. notafan

    the ACT has it’s issues but good to see one false accuser went to gaol.

    Article at Spiked on believe all women not so fast

  133. MatrixTransform

    The two barriers to growth in sales in Australia are lack of infrastructure and government inertia.

    not really Numpty … the fact is that EVs are coal powered.

    go on with yr facts … and keep lecturing the engineers and scientists about all the things you know for sure

  134. The ABC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

    Your local block warden would like to know your location.

  135. Mother Lode

    The ABC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

    They are soooooo stupid.

    The ABC knows they will get a better deal from a Labor government even if Tits never mentions it.

    All the Libs have done is signalled yet again that they don’t give a rats about conservatives, and they would rather hawk after people who will never vote for them than after people who might hold their noses and vote might.

  136. notafan

    Roger

    come on

    people are basically good

    I feel that is true

    now no bothering us with Christian stuff

  137. Empire 5:5

    If you are buying a subsidised product, and you have a choice, an interesting argument would be as to whether you are part of the problem or not.

    Define Economic Terrorist. Do not take the blue pill.

  138. notafan

    The ooish organizational world is not homogenous, nor is it devoid of any mention of Mizrahi Joos. Various organizations have come into being over the years to share their incredible and largely untold story, from JIMENA (Joos Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa) to the Iranian American Jooish Federation, the younger group 30 Years After, and many others.

    defining Israel in black and white

  139. notafan

    Great story at the Jooish Journal called defining Israel in black and white

    linky blocked

    The ooish organizational world is not homogenous, nor is it devoid of any mention of Mizrahi Joos. Various organizations have come into being over the years to share their incredible and largely untold story, from JIMENA (Joos Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa) to the Iranian American Jooish Federation, the younger group 30 Years After, and many others.

    someone who can tinyurl might be able to link?

  140. Empire 5:5

    The ABC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

    There is no gathering, only production.
    Less than $2 per citizen to maintain high quality state propaganda.
    A value laden steal by the Bureau of Information.

  141. Nelson Kidd-Players

    My Mum’s car got doored by a Beetle in the Doncaster Shoppingtown car park when I was young. She wryly observed that the Beetle was immune from such attacks due to its high stance and running boards (aka side steps).

    I did not have the presence of mind at the time to check for QLD plates.

  142. Atoms for Peace

    Was the ALPs latest scientific / technological leap forward boondoggle also drawn up on a paper napkin?
    More skidmarks into the future, with someone having to clean up their poo flinging mess.

  143. Roger

    The ABC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

    “Enhanced news gathering services”?

    Is that fancy talk for buying more stories from al Jazeera?

  144. RobK

    I just checked on Wikipedia. The “unsafe at any speed” book was more about the corvair . My mistake.

  145. Watch this. (You too, JC).

    Alex Jones has truly been shafted.

    (I also promise to stop making Bill Hicks/Alex Jones jokes).

  146. calli

    The usual catastrophe story.

    But this stood out:

    Iceland is becoming greener and some of its land mass is rising as climate change gathers pace bringing economic and other consequences, according to Oddur Sigurdsson, a geologist at the Icelandic Meteorological Office.

    Hot air rising?

  147. bespoke

    My mistake.

    And that’s what sets the cat apart from the dregs. I mistakenly (I hope) misrepresented sideshow bob the other day and egg pointed it out.

  148. HOLY

    FAQUN

    SHART

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3963851/

    Table 1
    Prevalence of latent toxoplasmosis in women of childbearing age in various countries.

    Argentina 60%
    Brazil 50%

    DOES THIS EXPLAIN GODDAMNED COMMUNISM?!

  149. dragnet

    The Chevrolet Corvair was a somewhat misconceived attempt by GM to replicate the success of the Beetle. A bit like the Dems attempting to replicate the success of Donald Trump by promoting Oprah Winfrey.
    It wasn’t really all that bad a car, but Nader cherry picked accident and engineering data, and an impressionable sensationalist media did the rest.

  150. cuckoo

    Had to share this (from the Age of course):

    Will Austin, 22, told The Age he was stopped outside Flagstaff station carrying a yidaki – an Indigenous term for a didgeridoo – in a large black bag.

  151. Boambee John

    In the meantime, this is a fairly common occurrence at the top of the Toowoomba range – https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/family-escapes-car-fire-toowoomba-range/3319939/
    It happens about once per month. You can check the firie callouts.

    I used to drive up there on the old road reasonably often. I had an early 1950s car, by the time I got it, it was more than 10 years old. It would boil most of the way up, but never caught fire.

    The modern “environmentally efficient” cars seem to catch fire more often. Would that be because they operate at much higher temperatures, to meet EU standards? Saving the world, one burning car at a time!

  152. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It may have escaped your notice, but our progressive friends have made several attempts to de-employ Doomie over the comment contents of this blog.

    this is how they win again and again and why the west is moving towards inevitable death

  153. RobK

    Prevalence of latent toxoplasmosis in women of childbearing age in various countries.
    Our affinity for kittens.

  154. Roger

    Speaking of de-employing….some Christian colleges in the US are reporting a small but disturbing and, it seems, rising trend:

    Public schools and hospitals are refusing to place their education and nursing graduates because the colleges are known to be for traditional marriage.

  155. C.L.

    Joe Biden on DRUDGE.
    Once again, Catallaxy was about three years ahead of the media.

  156. Public schools and hospitals are refusing to place their education and nursing graduates because the colleges are known to be for traditional marriage.

    Collective punishment and guilt by association.

    Not wrong, just evil.

  157. Hay Stockard

    Stackable,
    I get my news from the daily caller and ARRSE. Funnily enough the second site often had Australian news we don’t see at all and some we don’t see contemporaneously.

  158. Stimpson J. Cat

    How is everyone today?
    It’s hard not being able to complain about certain cultures or religions or beliefs, isn’t?
    Anyone need a hug?
    😂

  159. C.L.

    Biden spokesman suggests dozens of videos have been doctored by vast right-wing conspiracy!

    On Monday, Biden spokesman Bill Russo e-mailed reporters a more aggressive defense of the former senator’s behavior, condemning the “cottage industry of lies” aimed at ruining Biden’s reputation. “These smears and forgeries have existed in the dark recesses of the internet for a while,” he said. “And to this day, right wing trolls and others continue to exploit them for their own gain.”

    By “dark recesses of the internet,” he means YouTube.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Iceland is becoming greener and some of its land mass is rising as climate change gathers pace

    Green ice greener.

    Largest glaciers in Iceland growing for first time in decades (Dec)

    Iceland enduring the worst summer for 100 years (last July)

    AMO appears to be turning down – Iceland’s temperature is closely coordinated to the AMO.

  161. notafan

    It’s hard not being able to complain about certain cultures or religions or beliefs, isn’t?

    so you admit it?

  162. Hay Stockard

    Stackja I meant. Accursed autocorrect. Sorry mate.

  163. Hay Stockard

    MH,,
    Yes. Army rumour service. They have current affairs and an Australian section. British site. Go to the NAAFI bar if you want a laugh.

  164. Stimpson J. Cat

    so you admit it?

    Admit what, that I dislike not being able to speak freely on any culture, religion, or belief I wish?
    Yes, yes I do.
    We all have that in common, don’t we?
    Isn’t that why we are ALL here?

  165. bespoke

    It’s hard not being able to complain about certain cultures or religions or beliefs, isn’t?

    No Stimps, what you want is to be able to complain without criticism. That’s not how it works.

  166. Percy Popinjay

    The ALPBC has been offered a funding reprieve weeks out from the May federal election, with today’s budget set to announce $43.7 million for the broadcaster’s enhanced newsgathering services

    Unfriggingforgivable.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2977604, posted on April 2, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    Biden spokesman suggests dozens of videos have been doctored by vast right-wing conspiracy!

    Interesting when the Dems push one of their own into the meat grinder.

  168. notafan

    I’m pretty sure you used to pretend that you were not.

    And we aren’t all here for the sole purpose of criticizing a faith

  169. Speedbox

    Some discussion upthread about fire and VW’s.

    In 1965 my father owned a new VW Beetle and whilst motoring along one day, smoke began to waft up from under the rear seat. I know this because I was sitting on it at the time. The cause was that the battery of the 1965 VW is located underneath the right rear passenger seat and it had set alight the coconut fibre seat padding.

    The car wasn’t destroyed thanks to quick action by my old man. Other than that incident, it was a great car.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Lady Justice Hallett said: “The idea that a choirboy woman could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so he she could obtain compensation beggars belief.”

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    No Stimps, what you want is to be able to complain without criticism. That’s not how it works.

    No, you’ll notice I don’t call for people to be banned, and I accept criticism, all the time, from my sane betters.
    I am very good like that.
    Some would say noble.
    But it’s not a competition.
    😁

  172. notafan

    LL

    I think you mean a man who for a brief time, was a choirboy

  173. The modern “environmentally efficient” cars seem to catch fire more often. Would that be because they operate at much higher temperatures, to meet EU standards? Saving the world, one burning car at a time!

    This is Cat’s Law (similar to Godwin’s Law).
    It doesn’t matter what evil befalls (cars catching fire or the wild dogs getting into the lambs) you can always track it back to debbil debbil socialism.

  174. Tel

    Public schools and hospitals are refusing to place their education and nursing graduates because the colleges are known to be for traditional marriage.

    As soon as they start discriminating, take away their government funding.

    That’s how the rule works everywhere else. If they want to provide a PUBLIC service, then it must remain fully public.

  175. Percy Popinjay

    Biden spokesman suggests dozens of videos have been doctored by vast right-wing conspiracy!

    No evidence of any doctorin’ going down here.

  176. notafan

    or in another related case

    The idea that a an ex con, who, five decades earlier, attended a Catholic school could send an innocent man to prison for years solely so he she could obtain compensation, beggars belief

    not really

    why I linked the article in the first place

  177. Top Ender

    Trial begins for US ex-cop who fatally shot Australian woman Justine Damond

    By AGENCIES

    Jury selection began Monday in the murder trial of a former Minnesota police officer who fatally shot an unarmed Australian woman, provoking outrage in the United States and in the victim’s home country.

    Prosecutors say Somali-American Mohamed Noor opened fire on Justine Damond in Minneapolis in July 2017 while seated in the passenger seat of his squad car.

    The 40-year-old yoga instructor had approached the cruiser after calling twice to report a possible rape in the dark alley behind her home.

    The Australian, whose maiden name was Ruszczyk, had moved to the US to marry her fiancee Don Damond.

    She was shot once in the abdomen and died at the scene.

    Damond’s killing sparked outrage in Minneapolis and her native country, which since has translated to intense interest in the case as it moves to trial.

    Controversial police shooting cases in the US have proven difficult to prosecute, however, with few officers sent to prison.

    Outside the courthouse Monday, a spokeswoman from the organisation “Justice for Justine” called for accountability.

    “Systemic issues extend far beyond this one shooting, this one officer, this one trial,” Katherine Hamburg told reporters.

    “The fight for justice must continue until the institutions and cultures that shield police from accountability are dismantled.” Dozens of prospective jurors were given initial instructions Monday and handed questionnaires. Court proceedings ended by late morning and were scheduled to resume Wednesday.

    Prospective jurors were to turn in written answers to 66 questions, including whether they owned firearms or knew anyone of Somali decent.

    Prosecutors also filed a nine-page list of potential witnesses that included Matthew Harrity, Noor’s partner on the night of the shooting.

    Noor’s work history barred

    Noor was fired from the police force after the incident and charged with second-degree and third-degree murder, as well as second-degree manslaughter.

    He has pleaded not guilty.

    The murder charges carry sentences of up to 25 years for the second-degree charge and up to 10 years for the third-degree count.

    The prosecution has claimed Noor acted unreasonably — shooting at someone he did not clearly see while his partner was in the line of fire.

    Noor’s attorneys have indicated they plan to mount a self-defence argument. Lawyer Tom Plunkett has said his client “acted as he has been trained and consistent with established departmental policy.” Minnesota Public Radio said Noor was deemed “asocial and socially introverted” in his pre-employment psychological test, but that there were no signs of disqualifying mental illness.

    Police officers involved in controversial shootings are rarely sent to prison, because juries and judges are loath to second guess officers’ split-second, life-or-death decisions.

    Trials have mostly resulted in hung juries or acquittals, which at times have caused civil unrest in American cities where racial tensions are already high.

    The Damond shooting enraged many of the victim’s neighbours, who mounted a campaign for police reforms. The city’s police chief at the time was forced to resign within days.

    Another Minnesota officer, Jeronimo Yanez, was sacked but acquitted after fatally shooting black motorist Philando Castile in 2016.

    There were several days of protests in another Midwestern city — Saint Louis, Missouri —- in 2017, after a judge concluded there was not enough evidence to convict former officer Jason Stockley for shooting Anthony Lamar Smith after a 2011 car chase.

    In Chicago, Jason Van Dyke, who is white, was convicted of the 2014 murder of black teen Laquan McDonald. The 17-year-old was shot 16 times by the former officer, with most of those bullets striking the teen after he fell to the ground.

    AFP

    Oz – comments allowed if you can scale the paywall

  178. A Tesla can catch on fire by refueling, which takes over and hour (on the best equipment and it draws a massive current in doing so – think of Ohm’s law, the Joule-Lenz law and resistivity formulae).

    A normal car? Virtually never and it takes two minutes.

    Tesla is heavily subsidised, normal cars don’t need to be.

    Normal cars need to be in accidents most of the time for a fire.

    No one in their right mind drives a Tesla far enough for this to ever happen.

    EVs probably will take over one day. No one wants to pay full price for them now, nor are they advanced enough to allow consumers to choose them over conventional cars.

  179. notafan

    As soon as they start discriminating, take away their government funding.

    That’s how the rule works everywhere else. If they want to provide a PUBLIC service, then it must remain fully public.

    You are right Tel

    Any organisation in Australia that doesn’t wholeheartedly support SSM, transgenderism etc should be immediately stripped of all public funding

    hospitals schools universities nursing homes the lot

    remove that government funding right now

  180. Indolent

    “Hillary Clinton has been executed.”
    – Field McConnell

    Anne, while she definitely deserves it, that’s not how Trump works. Ironically, considering all the mud thrown at him, he has been totally scrupulous about obeying the law.

  181. Roger

    As soon as they start discriminating, take away their government funding.

    In a truly pluralist society that option would be on the table.

    It should be noted there have been no complaints about any past graduate placements; the public institutions concerned are openly acting on their bias against traditional Christians. It is comparable to publicly owned airports in the US banning Chick-fil-A on account of the traditional Christian beliefs of its owners regarding marriage.

  182. Boambee John

    DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS: Blood money and the corruption of American foreign policy: Qatar peddles its influence on Capitol Hill.

    The above via Instapundit.

    Busy little Qataris aren’t they?

  183. Mother Lode

    Noor was fired from the police force after the incident and charged with second-degree and third-degree murder, as well as second-degree manslaughter.

    How does that work?

    Is this just a way of saying here is a menu, the jury can choose from?

    I can understand a crime involving multiple charges, each with its own definition: Someone holding up the 7-11 could be charged for a robbery and a murder.

    But second and third degree murder and manslaughter? Surely they are distinct and the prosecutors would be going in with one definition fitting what the case they are about to make.

    I don’t say this in defence of Noor (although I suspect there is a lot of culpability for city officials and politicians who pushed him through even though he was not ready), but it seems an odd basis for a trial.

  184. “In the alternative…” and probably poor reporting.

  185. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Busy little Qataris aren’t they?

    our petrodollars at work

  186. Percy Popinjay

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    The name was chosen precisely to elicit that sort of clueless reaction. It’s a pisstake, you fucking creepy humourless obsessive imbecile.

  187. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It doesn’t matter what evil befalls (cars catching fire or the wild dogs getting into the lambs) you can always track it back to debbil debbil socialism.

    If you love socialism so much, move to cuba. Why are you so dense.

  188. cuckoo

    How does that work?
    Is this just a way of saying here is a menu, the jury can choose from?

    American legal expert on RN this morning affirmed that this is indeed the case. He used the analogy of hunting birds with buckshot.

  189. Boambee John

    The numerical troll cannot get his mind around the idea that vehicle standards suitable for Europe might not be appropriate for Australia, where the distances are greater, the climate is often dryer, and the vegetation generally more inflammable. Perhaps John Constantine csn enlighten him about the problems of using European farm machinery at the height of an Australian summer.

    He thinks it is all caused by socialism!

  190. bespoke

    Same old tired defections, Stimps.

  191. Chris

    Julie,
    I wish to express my deep concern about the ABC and its direction.

    Having seen the indescribably stupid performance of One Nation on the ABC, I am absolutely amazed at the level of propaganda against Trump and non-Liberal Americans in that show and at every moment I am unlucky enough to see ABC news and commentary. This also has a ‘halo effect’ against the Liberals on a personal contempt and values level.

    Please tell me the Coalition are not going to reward this vile lot of ideological parasites on the taxpayer with even more money.
    Already each household pays about $200 a year to subsidise them, but only about one in eight are regular viewers. Its just not fair on us that are ‘not their kind, dear’.

    Regards
    Chris

  192. Chris

    To Julie Bishop, that was

  193. bespoke

    If you love socialism so much, move to cuba.

    No way, cheerful squalor if for other people.

  194. dragnet

    You would never wear a checked short with a checked jacket PP

  195. Mother Lode

    If you love socialism so much, move to cuba.

    Maybe it is like the sea-borne goat-botherers that come here.

    They come from a shithole where they are at the bottom of the shitheap.

    They don’t come here because they have discovered the allure of a free and egalitarian society.

    They come here as a kind of a reset – in the hope that they can establish themselves on the top of the shitheap in Australia. Let it turn into the shithole they came from, as long as they are on top.

  196. Zatara

    How does that work?
    Is this just a way of saying here is a menu, the jury can choose from?

    In the US system one can only be found guilty of something they are charged with.

    If Noor was only charged with 2nd degree murder then one jury member who stubbornly thinks “it was an accident” would see him walk. Not much justice there.

    So instead of putting all their eggs in one basket and hoping they can prove all of the elements of 2nd degree murder to the jury’s satisfaction the prosecutor includes lesser charges (3rd degree murder and manslaughter) with somewhat lesser specific elements to make sure they get something rather than nothing.

  197. Tom

    It’s a pisstake, you fucking creepy humourless obsessive imbecile.

    Haven’t looked in on Australia’s most unread blog for months. More and more of it seems to be a rebuttal of what appears at the Cat.

    Poor old Shitfer is more and more like the last Jap soldier still fighting in the Filipino jungle for Imperial Japan in 1948.

    Oh and hi, Homer!

  198. So instead of putting all their eggs in one basket and hoping they can prove all of the elements of 2nd degree murder to the jury’s satisfaction the prosecutor includes lesser charges (3rd degree murder and manslaughter) with somewhat lesser specific elements to make sure they get something rather than nothing.

    There ‘oughtta be a law against it.

  199. Mother Lode

    In the US system one can only be found guilty of something they are charged with.

    I was familiar with the idea that the jury might decide that the original charge did not obtain, but they still only entertained one charge at a time.

    Just mildly surprised since it seemed to imply going in with multiple theories of the crime.

    If it led to perverse outcomes I should think that it would have been disallowed long before now and the Defence would leap upon it or use it as a basis of appeal. So I would guess it is quite common and accepted.

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    Catching up.

    Nob – ‘spaffing away money’

    That one, with all due ceremony, is going straight to the pool room.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    It would appear, as Mater noted so well earlier today, that the muppet in NZ had achieved his wildest dreams and more by having censorship applied by unelected virtue-signallers across the globe.

    It’s either a stroke of unparalleled brilliance, or more likely that these morons were waiting for just such an opportunity to ban everything that they think should be banned, thus propelling us even further down the slippery slope towards becoming a nation of mindless worker ants.

  202. Tintarella di Luna

    Monday’s child is fair of face
    Tuesday’s child is full of grace

    I’ll stop right there, our little granddaughter was born this morning and the name chose well before this day is Grace. I haven’t been able to give a Nonna hug yet but this afternoon we’ll be going over their home to meet Our Grace. She is going home to the home took her father home to when he was an infant. Nothing like a bit of continuity

  203. Speedbox

    The issue of EV’s stirs up a lot of people. Back in October 2018 I wrote this (minor updates):

    Whether we like it or not, whether our power grid is prepared or not, fully electric cars are coming.

    Whilst the take up of fully electric vehicles in Australia is slower than Europe (and possibly the US), every one of the major auto manufacturers has designed and proposes to introduce fully electric or hybrid vehicles from 2020/21. And they have done this in the sure and certain knowledge that sovereign Governments, actively promoted and encouraged by the UN and EU, have already made the decision (well over a decade ago) that fully electric vehicles are the future.

    Collectively, the manufacturers (think Ford, GM, Daimler, Toyota, VW, Mazda, Hyundai, Honda, Fiat, BMW, Mitsubishi, Renault, Nissan, Volvo……..) have spent hundreds of billions on design and development. By 2025, there will be well over 100 fully electric models from the major manufacturers with that number of models increasing apace. For the manufacturers, this is like the introduction of the motor car all over again – literally every ICE car on the planet will have to be replaced and the overwhelming majority will occur no later than 2040/5.

    As time passes, Governments will impose punishing taxes as the ICE vehicles age to encourage change-over to electric. (Part of the drive to electric is the increasingly punitive vehicle emission standards – linked to, you guessed it – climate change!).

    It is public record that 17+ countries have already announced bans on new petrol or diesel engined cars with most bans commencing from 2030. And by 2040, that’s it – a new ICE car (in Europe) will be history and only pre-existing versions will be registerable. And, in 20 years from now, it is unimaginable that the manufacturers will run different production facilities to cater for ICE vehicles (maybe USA only) and EV (rest of the world).

    As far as I am aware, Australia hasn’t (yet) made any announcement on the phase out of ICE cars, but that is just a matter of timing. The Government have any number of bigger immediate issues and don’t want to alarm the punters further – so they will kick this particular can down the road.

    There are a whole range of issues (social, economic, supply, range anxiety, taxation, recharge facilities, battery disposal etc) associated with electric cars. But, you will be driving an electric vehicle in, probably, no more than 20 years from now. The fundamental decisions by global entities and national governments have already been made. Your input was neither sought nor required. Like it or not.

  204. Knuckle Dragger

    When I read the crayon-eater’s comments about three-dog trains, I had a thought:

    Wouldn’t it be jolly if one were to reproduce some of Crayon Bob’s more idiotic pronouncements every time he opens his trap, just to remind all and sundry of his propensity to gob off about subjects he knows nothing about? You know, locked and loaded SLRs, Russian fiction and so on.

    Damn you.

    Damn you, Frank.

    DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!

  205. notafan

    Congratulations Tinta!

  206. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks notafan and bespoke — champing at the bit to get going but the Sunbather is in the middle of a conference so will have to wait a bit longer. Darn work gets in the way of so much good stuff.

  207. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    So I missed the controversy yesterday, what topic is now a no no? is the Un Zed stuff or the religion of pieces in general?

  208. Zatara

    Congrats Tinta!

    Every child begins the world again

    – Thoreau

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    I can’t speak for the US, where no doubt the legislation may vary dependent on the State.

    You will often see Australian trials where an accused is tried for murder, but is convicted and sentenced for manslaughter – ie, where there is some doubt about the intent of the accused to kill.

    This will occur in one of two scenarios. One is that when hearing a trial for murder, the jury is open to reject a murder charge but find the accused guilty of manslaughter, without a manslaughter charge being filed by the prosecution. This applies only to murder, and no other charge activates this jury function.

    The second is where either before or during trial, during discussions out of court between the prosecution and defence, the defence will offer to plea to manslaughter (and the lesser sentence) in return for the prosecution dropping the murder charge. If the prosecution case is strong enough, they will tell the defence to fuck off. If not, they will accept the plea, and put it before the judge for approval when the jury is not present.

  210. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The fundamental decisions by global entities and national governments have already been made. Your input was neither sought nor required. Like it or not.

    This seems to be a recurring theme, we need to take back control of our democracies.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    One of the things about the window-licking spastic herder is that because he’s been everywhere and done everything, he presumes to mouth off about things he either knows nothing about, or that he patently knows are untrue (but that’s ok, because none of the plebs know enough to dispute it).

    Typically Socialist I Will Tell You What Is What. Independent Thought Is Not Permitted. You’d almost have thought he was a teacher of some kind.

    The problem for Bob, though, is that this forum consists of a whole pile of people with considerable subject matter expertise. As such, he’s proved himself wrong countless times at the expense of his credibility.

    You’d expect most normal people to realise their errors at this point and give the game away. But not Bob.

    I guess, in these circumstances, that would make him a bit of a statistical outrider.

  212. DrBeauGan

    Felicitations Tinta, and baby Grace and her mum (who did all the work). A baby is a miracle.

  213. bespoke

    what topic is now a no no?

    JC’s NY apartment.
    KD’s Grindr experiences.
    Arky’s cannibalism.
    Lizzie’s ………………………

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    Hey!

    That’s Tinder. TINDER!!!

  215. Speedbox

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2977671, posted on April 2, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Damn right it is. But the fix is in and this particular horse has bolted. There is too much money involved – and too many faceless bureaucrats.

  216. calli

    CONGRATULATIONS NONNA TINTA!

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  217. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #2977564, posted on April 2, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Plug the car in, just in case it’s needed later on.
    Put dinner on the stove.
    Poof!
    There goes the national electricity system as the evening peak goes through the roof.
    Imagine that evening spike doubling?

    My eternal query about EVs in the current and foreseeable future state of our electricity production and power grid.

    I actually like the concept for local transport but imagine the demand if only 20% of cars were EVs and the scenario you envisage would eventuate?

    For once the current wiring to the home would never be able to supply quick charge let alone concurrent usage of other electrical appliances.

    Why is this never mentioned by those who champion EVs or asked by others critical of the concept?

  218. notafan

    That’s Tinder. TINDER!!!

    Homophobe!

  219. calli

    Oops. Shoulda refreshed. I thought I was first.

  220. Des Deskperson

    I congratulazioni, Signora Moonlight.

    La sua nipote chiama ‘Graziella”??

  221. calli

    Stop talking that Physicsy stuff guys. It hurtses greenscums’ brainses.

    EVs run on feelz.

  222. Mark A

    struth
    #2977450, posted on April 2, 2019 at 10:58 am

    This is the level of industrial ignorance these people show.
    In everything else, he’s quite a bight bloke, doesn’t even drink.

    Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?

  223. Cactus

    Speedbox. I think that is mostly right. Except the consumer and the freedom in the US will mean I hope you are wrong.

  224. Overburdened

    I don’t think we’re on a slippery slope.
    I think we’ve hit the ground and started digging.

  225. Knuckle Dragger

    Link’s at the Currant Bun.

    The Gargasoulas inquest will start shortly, and is expected to focus heavily on police response in the hours leading up to the murder of six in Bourke Street. 46 witnesses, mostly police, are expected to be called.

    Good. You will have 44 on-ground police who will explain that they were specifically order not to go near the crook, despite him being a clear, present danger to the community. They will explain (or should) that they are there to put themselves in harm’s way and that they wanted to do their job.

    You will also have two highly risk-averse witnesses. One will be the duty officer, an Inspector, who despite being nowhere near the action on ground decided that the ‘safety first’ concept applied only to police, and not to the public.

    The second will be the Critical Incident Response Team boss, who despite having three crews nearby prohibited them from becoming involved because there was some doubt as to whether the crook was armed. This was an internal piss fight between differing management groups. The public will not be pleased.

    Additionally, Fatty’s fighting to have the heavily redacted internal debrief document excluded from evidence, in the interest of public interest immunity. Unless it discloses specific methodology (which it wouldn’t) there is little chance of that application succeeding.

    Hopefully, one of the bosses will emulate the spectacular cockup made by a commissioned NSWPOL officer in the Lindt inquest, who maintained that ‘the accused had rights’.

    For VicPol command, a day of reckoning is coming. These Four Horsemen will not be merciful.

  226. struth

    Wow, I just watched a bit of parliament question time.
    Thank god I did, because as I’ve been wondering around Australia seeing businesses going broke, shops bordered up, etc, I thought we were up shit creek, but now I know I have the wrong idea.
    It’s awesome out here, booming in fact, according to the Liberal Party .

    Who knew?

  227. Mater

    It’s either a stroke of unparalleled brilliance, or more likely that these morons were waiting for just such an opportunity to ban everything that they think should be banned, thus propelling us even further down the slippery slope towards becoming a nation of mindless worker ants.

    His brilliance was in recognising this propensity and knowing exactly how to trigger it.
    He has converted latent potential energy into highly destructive kinetic energy.

  228. calli

    The Princip Principle.

  229. Anne

    Joe M
    @StormIsUponUs

    The globalist government of New Zealand has just deployed government forces against the people of New Zealand to neutralize their ability to fight back. The cabal is working to establish NZ as a non-extradition refuge to escape #TheStorm.

  230. Johno

    Hello Anne.

    How’s your day been?

  231. notafan

    Dear Doomlord

    please add ‘Globalist’ and ‘cabal’ to the list of banned words

  232. bespoke

    Anne please go hear you have much in common.

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    I suspect the Mongrel Mob might just have the upper hand against NZ’s government forces.

  234. calli

    Bespoke! Clickbait!

    For shame.

  235. mh

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2977680, posted on April 2, 2019 at 3:04 pm
    Two knifemen ‘washed their faces and feet’ at London mosque then mingled with worshippers and changed clothes to evade police after stabbing man to death in London’s 30th murder of 2019

    Sinclair, you forgot to add mosque.

  236. Johno

    The Twilight Zone has been remade. IMDB have half hating and half loving it.

    i will watch the first two episodes

  237. notafan

    That’s an awful lot of plane travel for an avowed greenie.

    Even has a favourite plane and favourite seat.

    Bet he religiously buys those carbon offsets.

  238. Knuckle Dragger

    I think I might buy an electric car.

    At the exact same moment one can transport me, half a tonne of assorted crap and a dog 750km at full power, without having to lose aircon or power steering, in 4WD if necessary over dirt and shit bitumen roads, in all weather, without an eight hour $4000 top up half way through, and with enough grunt to reliably overtake and/or power out of something I need to, and has batteries I can carry and replace as needed, and that can recharge from a camp fire overnight, and that won’t set fire to everything it touches, that I can get out of in an emergency, and that won’t cost me a Powerball jackpot to afford.

    Other than that, I have no problems with the concept.

  239. mh

    If the government still can’t get a lift in polling, they could try this election slogan

    Keeping Interest Rates At Record Lows

  240. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trust the plan, Anne.
    😁

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