Open Forum: April 20, 2019

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  1. feelthebern

    Apart from getting his weasel greased (h/t Tony Soprano), Trump has demonstrated patience that few politicians have ever shown.
    I reckon it comes from all the litigation involved in NY property development that never ends.
    Considering Trump has not released all un-redacted docs regarding the FISA docs, I reckon you can pop it in the diary for the lead up to the 2020 election.
    Nothing like Biden, Obama, Clinton getting indicted in Sept or Oct.
    The problem is, that means Trump runs against the only guy who can beat him, Bernie.

  2. Overburdened

    Happy Easter to all.

  3. cohenite

    I’ve read the report troll. The Breitbart analysis is as good as any.

    Mueller is a dirty cop. For some one like him to say he could not exonerate Trump of obstruction is despicable. prosecutors do not exonerate. People are presumed innocent; if charged the prosecutor has to prove guilt; if they don’t succeed the person retains their innocence. Mueller could not even charge. The use of the word exonerate was for fools like you.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There are some things mums wont accept. Men pretending to be them is one of them.

    Never a truer word spoken, Twostix. Visited some millennials with a very new baby recently. Lovely young couple, and the husband trying desperately to do half the work. Don’t try so hard, you’ll never make it, I advised him, because you just don’t have the natural skill at it that a woman has. Wrong sort of crook in the arms, wrong voice, wrong shape chest, wrong innate capacity to ‘feel’ the bub and ‘sense’ its needs. You are flying blind. Your wife is not.

    He seems rather grateful to hear this.

    Doesn’t mean you can’t improve though, I warn him. 🙂

  5. Mark A

    1735099
    #2993627, posted on April 21, 2019 at 10:43 am

    The troll has vomited the left’s talking points about Mueller’s witch hunt report in a long, tedious and spurious post. Reality:

    Cohenite, too lazy to read the report and make up his own mind, takes his riding instructions from that impeccably reliable source, Breitbart.
    Hilarious.

    Yes because Vox is never biased, a paragon of truths and virtue.
    Oh the hilarity.

  6. Overburdened

    Meanwhile

    The Democrat party in America becomes progressively more unhinged, telling self evident lies and disregarding the rule of law as well as having no sense of decorum.

    The current behaviour will diminish the standing of the Presidency, regardless of who is in charge.

    As predicted, the public is being softened up for a crescent moon over Notre Dame.

    shorten is still a hollow prick who stands for nothing other than the Movement.

    My joy of being in the ocean this morning was tempered by tourists.

  7. Tom

    that impeccably reliable source, Breitbart.

    Best non-leftard news site in the world — a great place to find out facts the MSM leaves out, but with none of the loaded propaganda that marinates zombie sites like abc.net.au and bbc.com, which taxpaying mugs like us have little say in financing.

  8. 1735099

    Mueller is a dirty cop.

    Mueller has more integrity in his little finger than Trump has in his whole (ample) body.
    Mueller is a decorated marine veteran, and spent his working life in public service.
    Trump dodged the draft and spent his life trying to improve his inherited wealth by corruption and fraud.

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Interestingly, they have become a Conservative Catholic base of late

    There did seem to be heaps of young Maronite men at Milo’s last show in Sydney which we went to.

  10. Goanna

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2993628, posted on April 21, 2019 at 10:45 am

    Well, it’s a very physical thing, hand-milking a cow. You have to get up quite a rhythm or they kick you.
    Or the bucket. It’s a tragedy when they kick the bucket. Or when they somehow drop shyte in it.

    It’s a bad start to the day when you forget to untie the leg rope.

  11. rickw

    I used to milk the Jersey cow (Old Lady), bailing her up in the old rickety single bail, sticking my head into her flank and squeezing and pulling away.

    Aren’t Jersey Cow’s just lovely! Ours was named Pam. Eminently more likeable than the string of cranky Fresians that followed her!

  12. Mark A

    1735099
    #2993637, posted on April 21, 2019 at 10:57 am

    Mueller is a dirty cop.

    Mueller has more integrity in his little finger than Trump has in his whole (ample) body.
    Mueller is a decorated marine veteran, and
    spent his working life in public service.
    Trump dodged the draft and spent his life trying to improve his inherited wealth by corruption and fraud.

    What sort of a cockeyed argument is that?
    Public servants never lie, commit crimes, become corrupt, become politically biased?

    You are off you rocker.

  13. Tom

    Lou Lou was our on-tap milk dispenser, poddy calf tagging along behind.

  14. Zyconoclast

    UNESCO director-general Audrey Azoulay

    Azoulay doesn’t sound very French or obviously Catholic.
    Is that her married name?

  15. Ellie

    I have sinned on this most religious day.
    Bacon! I’m told that the after taste in my mouth is guilt.
    I refuse to repent though.
    I will be in heaven with a whole lot of fags … and I don’t even smoke. 🙃

  16. 1735099

    You are off you (sic) rocker.

    I reckon I’m a sight more sane than someone who would compare Trump’s history with Mueller’s and claim the former is honest and the latter crooked.
    I hope you don’t back horses too often.

  17. Ellie

    That should have been ‘hell’. A Freudian slip!

  18. Farmer Gez

    Dad had an old buggered rabbit trap on a rail to put the cows tail in, so you weren’t slapped in the face by a wet shitty tail.

    A better idea than docking the tail. Dad didn’t like to cause pain for no good reason.

    Jersey cows were nice but you can’t beat a Fresian for sheer volume in milk. The Jersey cream was thicker and much better quality. It was a struggle to make good butter or cream off a Fresian.

  19. Ellie

    Numbers, after Sinc said he likes you I started reading your posts. You certainly attract attention and I can see why. I thought you would be at church at this time of day though?

  20. John Constantine

    Australians with borrowings:

    Home loan biggest debt, shorten looting cartel wants cheaper houses which hits that loan equity.

    Car loan second biggest debt, shorten crony cartel will destroy second hand petrol/diesel car prices as the State push to electric cars does the penalty and subsidy thing. Owe more than the car is worth.

    Superannuation biggest untouchable wealth, but that hope will be snatched away as well.

    The libs aren’t attacking shorten on his destruction of Australian borrowers equity in the things they owe money on.

    Why?.

    Comrades.

  21. 1735099

    I thought you would be at church

    I’m not sure of the relevance of your question, but I was at Easter Sunday mass earlier where I watched a family of six Sudanese refugee kids baptised.
    Inspiring stuff.

  22. Mark A

    You are off you (sic) rocker.

    Says a man who makes more typos than the rest of the cat’s members.

    Just to let you know and save you from conniption in the future, I decided to never correct my typos.

    Sue me.

  23. 1735099

    Sue me

    Neat deflection.
    Now deal with the substance of the post – comparing Trump’s integrity with Mueller’s.

  24. Mueller is such a great public servant that he’s floggging his report to Daily Kos and Vox readers on Amazon (and it is a best seller).

    The difference is Trump admits that he’s selling something.

    If we want a true integrity contest, well go find me a saint or two.

    We’re not dumb enough to beatify Trump as the left did with Comey, Strzok and now Mueller.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    I’m not sure of the relevance of your question, but I was at Easter Sunday mass earlier where I watched a family of six Sudanese refugee kids baptised.

    And, sadly, it looks like they didn’t steal your phone.

  26. 1735099

    And sadly, it looks like they didn’t steal your phone.

    Idiot.

  27. Roger

    Could somebody explain to me why Scott Morrison attends Maronite church services?

    Votes.

  28. lotocoti

    Socialism : Where envy, malice and theft are virtues.
    I especially like:
    there is nothing wrong whatsoever with expropriating the ill-gotten gains of the bourgeoisie. to fail to do so legitimizes theft and exploitation.
    and:
    when you steal the surplus value of the labor of other people for your own interests that is ‘ill-gotten’.

  29. Tom

    Excellent point, Leigh. I wonder if Toowoomba has the same African gang problem with car-jackings etc that’s tearing Melbourne apart?

  30. Roger

    I wonder if Toowoomba has the same African gang problem with car-jackings etc that’s tearing Melbourne apart?

    No; local magistrates don’t hesitate to impose custodial sentences.

  31. Farmer Gez

    I’m not sure of the relevance of your question, but I was at Easter Sunday mass earlier where I watched a family of six Sudanese refugee kids baptised.
    Inspiring stuff.

    All six at once.
    Were they changing religion or did they miss out early on?
    Highly unlikely they weren’t baptised if they were Christian even in Sudan.

  32. 1735099

    Excellent point, Leigh.

    No.
    Stark dog whistling.
    A Chinese doctor was shot dead in his garage in Sunnybank last week in a botched robbery.
    The perps were Caucasian.
    If you’re consistent, you’d be saying the white gangs are “tearing Brisbane apart”.

  33. Mark A

    1735099
    #2993655, posted on April 21, 2019 at 11:26 am

    Sue me

    Neat deflection.
    Now deal with the substance of the post – comparing Trump’s integrity with Mueller’s.

    Deflection?
    You neatly sidestepped my point, that being a public servant is no guaranty of propriety.

    See Dot’s answer.

  34. Gab

    There were two baptisms last night. One from Spain and one from China. Compared to the baptisms I’ve seen in my former parish, which was a laughing spectacle, the one at the Latin Mass was reverent, solemn and joyous.

  35. Arky

    This page is already one of the shittest ones at the cat ever.
    Hang your heads in shame.
    Some of the stupidest trolling and lamest responses ever seen here.
    Lift your bloody games.
    Numbers, you are a shit troll.

  36. Mueller has more integrity in his little finger than Trump has in his whole (ample) body.
    Mueller is a decorated marine veteran, and spent his working life in public service.

    Trump dodged the draft and spent his life trying to improve his inherited wealth by corruption and fraud.

    Mueller was shot in the thigh by an enemy soldier. He recovered & returned to the front line.
    His decoration was received for actions under fire that in our services may have resulted in the award of the Victoria Cross.

    I’d say his peak was in the Marines as a platoon commander.
    His subsequent career is one big long switcheroo of swapping from private practice to government salary, but all as a lawyer.
    So he went from a defender of civilisation, to 40 years of eating away at that same society.
    His armed service is exemplary, and deserves respect.

    However, just like anybody else, you’re judged by, & are only as good as your most recent project.

  37. Tom

    No; local magistrates don’t hesitate to impose custodial sentences.

    Rob Hulls’ 11-year rampage as Victorian Attorney-General between 1999 and 2010 appointing dozens of Labor maaaates to the judiciary, which has been changed beyond recognition, has destroyed the rule of law in Victoria.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A Chinese doctor was shot dead in his garage in Sunnybank last week in a botched robbery.
    The perps were Caucasian.

    Those perps have been arrested and charged. How many gang members in Melbourne have faced the courts?

  39. I can honestly say that as a NSWelshman, I have read a few of the judgments of Redlich, Weinberg, Maxwell and Warren and I don’t think highly of them, let alone think of them as great defenders of civil liberties as Hulls and that puff piece made them out to be.

  40. Roger

    Rob Hulls’ 11-year rampage as Victorian Attorney-General between 1999 and 2010 appointing dozens of Labor maaaates to the judiciary, which has been changed beyond recognition, has destroyed the rule of law in Victoria.

    Was there not also a state government edict down there that young offenders should be “diverted” from the justice system? Hence no incarceration for breaking bail conditions, leading to a sense of impunity among repeat offenders.

  41. Numbers Bob Bobby Bob you seem to go quiet whenever I bring up the brutality of the Viet Minh terrorists or the ongoing oppression of Catholics in Vietnam.

    Can’t find the right talking point, can you?

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #2993649, posted on April 21, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Dad had an old buggered rabbit trap on a rail to put the cows tail in, so you weren’t slapped in the face by a wet shitty tail.

    A better idea than docking the tail. Dad didn’t like to cause pain for no good reason.

    Most bails I worked in had a nail or a hook. Hang the tail on the hook. It was usually so matted that it wouldn’t come off. But, yes, nothing like a whack with a wet, shitty tail on a freezing cold morning.

    Jersey cows were nice but you can’t beat a Fresian for sheer volume in milk. The Jersey cream was thicker and much better quality. It was a struggle to make good butter or cream off a Fresian.

    Yep, Jersey gives about 1/3 to 1/2 more butterfat.
    I didn’t know until recently but the magical A2 milk is simply Fresian (Holstein) milk.
    No magic.
    Just suck it out and bottle it.

  43. Arky

    Stark dog whistling.

    ..’
    YOU brought race into it. Either by manufacturing a stupid anecdote or by being the only person at that occasion who thought anything of it.
    Just another of the transparent little hooks you always insert to elicit a response.

  44. Posted by aldo onApril 19, 2019 at 08:27
    This is the text in text mode not in image mode of this translation. It is possible that it is missing the 11 / at the origin, either an error of the automatic translator or of the one which used it.

    I have been working in Paris since 2000 as a stonemason. I have done a lot of projects, we have to see the teams, they have imposed on us Malians, Cape Verdeans, Maghrebians, many hate us, pray on the building sites. Notre-Dame de Paris cathedral

    1 / The cathedral Notre-Dame I worked there and it’s quite a symbol for me in addition to being a bad memory because during the summer my foreman left on vacation had put me in August on another a construction site where a Malian had attacked me from behind by surprise.

    2 / the acting Malian assaulted a young stonemason, and an old stony old Alsatian he had told him “dirty white I’m not your slave” he refused to carry the wheelbarrow stones at the yard where we were placed

    3 / the Malian had waited for me on Monday morning at the construction site of August where we were while Our site manager of Notre-Dame was on vacation. He had spit on the ground, I did the same. He told me “dirty bastard” I told him “dirty bastard”.

    4 / then arriving at the construction site in the local at the time when I warn the head of the construction site hired for August, the Malian put violent fists – by surprise – on the back, he hated the whites, he tried to break my spine. I have trace.

    5 / the Malian was stopped by the team, the work driver who liked me fired me from the shipyard and the box. He saved himself because this Malian black was clandestine. I was humiliated and it made me even more hateful of those people. He typed from behind.

    6 / it was in 2005, the company agreed to re-hire me in 2007 on another great site class historical monument. I learned a terrible new age moment ago that put me still more hate against these people.

    7 / in 2007 I found my site manager of Notre Dame, so on another MH site. He told me “Manu, Manu go, I’ll keep you,” we get on well with both of them. He confessed to me that they had not turned black the Malian in 2005 just me ..

    8 / The Malian has squeezed the throat of my site manager who is adorable and friendly everyone likes him. He held her throat with her hand in the tower of Notre Dame Cathedral. Just my boss was joking: He said to her, “your wife is in Mali how do you do it” He hate us

    9 / Because of this crap this Malian I could not go back to stone in September when a chef came back from vacation. My boss hired me in 2007, then in 2008 and again in 2013. I saw him again for my sprains recently he is “healer”

    IO / when the work supervisor of the company I was working on said, “you’re both fired, you’re going home” I was sawed, but I thought so too. Angry I told him “I’m going to complain”

    12 / I came out humiliated angry I had not walked to find a police station I wanted to complain. A policeman received me in the joint office with his female colleague He asked me to explain what had happened, the name and description of the maneuver

    13 / When I said he was African, his colleague shouted at me I was amazed I did not come back: “You can talk less loudly! I’m trying to call the prosecutor’s office so speak louder For info this policewoman wore a fatma hand on her neck

    14 / I will write under this tweet everything that happened to me in Paris since 2000 on the sites of restoration of historical monuments. I had a lot of trouble with people from immigrant backgrounds

  45. Leigh Lowe

    Mueller has more integrity in his little finger than Trump has in his whole body.

    I always find the “little finger versus whole body” argument so immensely persuasive that I am powerless to respond.
    It is irresistible and irrefutable.

  46. Ellie

    Arky @ 11:46am; did you just troll the troll/s.
    What is a troll.
    Sinc likes the number 1, so called, troll.

    Slice of heaven.

  47. I always find the “little finger versus whole body” argument so immensely persuasive that I am powerless to respond.
    It is irresistible and irrefutable.

    Sir Les Patterson’s secretary could not be contacted for comment.

  48. Top Ender

    Colgate Australia’s contact page should you wish to talk with them re their decision not to advertise on Sky News any more.

  49. Notafan

    Azoulay is of Moroccan J ewish decent.

    Lots of Algerian and Moroccan J ews in France.

  50. Roger

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/vietnamese-catholics-persecuted-by-pro-government-thugs

    I note a few local cooking shows have had specials set in Vietnam.

    They present it as a tropical paradise with alluring scenery, a colourful local culture and an attractive cuisine.

    Sponsored by the Vietnamese government tourism board?

  51. John Constantine

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/30km-h-speed-zone-to-be-enforced-in-melbourne-s-inner-north-20180807-p4zw0s.html

    Big Australia has already made us so rich we can afford to cut speed limits to 30 kmh.

    How rich will crushloading yarragrad up to fifteen millions make us?

    Comrades?.

  52. stackja

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2993683, posted on April 21, 2019 at 12:04 pm
    I always find the “little finger versus whole body” argument so immensely persuasive that I am powerless to respond.
    It is irresistible and irrefutable.

    Sir Les Patterson’s secretary could not be contacted for comment.

    Alan: Now, are you sure you want to have a fight? Because I’m only gonna use my thumb.
    Bully in Bar: Thumb?
    Alan: My right thumb. Left one’s much too powerful for you.

  53. Arky

    Colgate is shit.
    I use this
    Grants is a good price, made in Australia.
    When it is gone, toothpaste will join the long list of things that cannot be manufactured here.
    You will have to look at the difficult to see spots on the very bottom or very top shelves at the supermarket though.

  54. struth

    Mueller has more integrity in his little finger than Trump has in his whole (ample) body.
    Mueller is a decorated marine veteran, and spent his working life in public service.

    But fuck just one goat……………………………………………………

  55. stackja

    Real 7 RAR

    Why are we called the Pigs?
    http://7rar.asn.au/wp/?page_id=854
    One of the most unifying aspects of 7 RAR was its nickname. To some the nickname was a triviality and an annoyance. Corporal Roy ‘Doc’ Savage gave this explanation of its origin:
    The single men of 3 RAR were sent to Puckapunyal to form a new battalion, 7 RAR. I arrived there on 11th November 1965. At first there were only regular soldiers. We used to keep the boozer open all weekend having the cooks bring our meals there. Anyway, on my second week there the new CO (Colonel Eric Smith) decided to inspect his new battalion area on a Sunday. He immediately closed the boozer. The next day he called a muster parade of the whole battalion and commenced to tell us what he thought of us. Half way hrough his speech he said and I quote, ‘You are nothing but a mob of pigs’. Then from the back rank someone called out ‘oink oink’. From that time onwards we became the Pig Battalion.
    From ‘Conscripts and Regulars’ by Michael O’Brien

  56. Gab

    Fr. Edmond Nyoka in the Mzuzu Diocese, baptised 87 people. I think he wins!

  57. John Constantine

    VicRoads is supportive of trials to investigate the benefits of 30km/h speed limits and to understand the community’s interest in small scale trials on local roads with high concentrations of pedestrians and/or cyclists.

    Towards Zero, Victoria’s Road Safety Strategy and Action Plan 2016-2020, indicates that VicRoads and local governments will work together to increase community ownership and support for safer road initiatives and make changes tailored to local conditions and safety risks.

    VicRoads is currently operating a 30 km/h trial in Walhalla, more details in media release, and City of Yarra have announced a trial beginning in September 2018 City of Yarra Thanks for 30 website.

    Thanks for Thirty, comrades.

    Our gross domestic product needs tens of millions more consumption machines, we can afford to ration road use to appreciate the wealth this bipartisan policy brings.

    Crushing pressure makes Diamonds.

    Comrades.

  58. mh

    I see Numbers this Easter Sunday is worshipping at the altar of the Deep State.

  59. VicRoads is supportive of trials to investigate the benefits of 30km/h speed limits and to understand the community’s interest in small scale trials on local roads with high concentrations of pedestrians and/or cyclists.

    What a bunch of fucking retards.

    This is just sophisticated ludditism.

  60. Overburdened

    Re the art of milking a cow

    When presented with a rural progress award for developing the novel technique of milking a cow from the rear rather than the side, the grizzled old farmer explained that this wasn’t the first time he’d had a pat on the back.

    You have no idea how long I’ve waited for the opportunity to mention this.

  61. Overburdened

    From my forthcoming book Great Moments in Animal Husbandry Volume 8

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    J1hadi bride unmasked by a phone lost in the caliphate

    By Dipesh Gadher
    The Times
    An hour ago April 21, 2019

    At first glance they look like innocent family snaps, with children playing in the park and heading to the shops with their parents. But on closer inspection it quickly becomes clear that the images are not normal.

    In one picture a young boy standing next to a juice stall is wearing a beanie hat with an Izis logo while his father, dressed in combat fatigues, pushes a buggy. Other images are more chilling, depicting toddlers brandishing pistols and infants posing next to IZIS flags.

    The photos were taken in Raqqa, the torrorist group’s former stronghold in Syria, by Omaima Abdi, a German j1hadi bride who is feared to have recruited dozens of British women to the Izis cause through social media.

    Abdi managed to return to her native Hamburg before the fall of IZIS – possibly in 2016 – and slipped back into her former life without being challenged by the German authorities.

    Until last week the mother of three, who has shed her veil in public, was working as a translator and events organiser. Abdi, 34, felt confident that her secret life in Syria – where she had been married to two notorious fighters – had gone undetected.

    All that changed, however, when the smartphone she used in the so-called caliphate ended up in the hands of an Arabic journalist. Its contents, passed to Jenan Moussa of the Dubai-based Al Aan television channel, are a mine of information about the Izis network of European j1hadists, including many Britons.

    When Moussa broadcast her investigation last week, police in Hamburg indicated that they had already begun an inquiry into Abdi’s double life.

    Among the 36GB of data stored on the phone are a photo of a rifle-wielding fighter from Luton with links to the British hate preacher Anjem Choudary, and possible contact details in Syria for a teenage Izis bride from Lewisham, southeast London.

  63. Numbers Bob Bobby Bob you seem to go quiet whenever I bring up the brutality of the Viet Minh terrorists or the ongoing oppression of Catholics in Vietnam.

    Funny that.
    I was in Vietnam in 1970 and went on R & C to Vung Tau.
    I didn’t see a Catholic Church at the time, and I was looking.
    I had this cockeyed idea that I’d attend mass.
    My section mates thought I was bonkers.
    On return trips to Viet Nam since, I’ve gone to Mass both in Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) and Vung Tau.
    In Saigon, it was the Notre Dame replica (Vương cung thánh đường Chính tòa Đức Bà Sài Gòn).
    In Vung Tau, a newly built church featuring pews with the names of those who donated them affixed.
    Many were Australian families, some of whom had returned and attended mass in the same church.
    Both times, the churches were full, and all ages represented, more than you could say for local churches here.
    When it comes to “going quiet”, I wonder what your read of the My Lai massacre is?
    Heroic Americans saving Vietnamese from the evil Commies by slaughtering 504 men women and children?

  64. John Constantine

    “Neighbourhoods with 30km/h speeds are safer and more social as people are able to be out talking with other locals, and there are fewer road crashes. They are happy, liveable neighbourhoods and so we expect more communities will want 30km/h streets when the trial is finished.”

    Ben Rossiter, Executive Officer, Victoria Walks

    The Cheerful Squalor of crushloaded socialism frees us from our capitalist misogynist cars and allows us to spontaneously celebrate our support of the revolution with every flopping step our sandalled feet take.

    Comrades in cheerful pedestrian Squalor.

  65. 504 is a smaller number than 200,000, do you not understand that numbers?

    504 is also a smaller number than 15,000 pre-meditated murders planned by the Viet Minh back in the 1950s.

    You are actually doubling down on this you idiot and making moral equivalence with the USA and the Viet Minh.

    Your level of delusion is greater than North Vietnamese, it is on the level with the Juche regime of North Korea.

  66. If you’re consistent, you’d be saying the white gangs are “tearing Brisbane apart”.

    “Tearing Brisbane apart” implies more than one murder.
    They’re not tearing Brisbane apart yet.
    This is the time to go for the bogan gangs, and to go for them * hard *

    By the way, before holding up whitey as the leading badass gang in Brisbane you may wish to brush up on Sudanese activities on the Southside.
    You may find the JB’s are still in front, by about four furlongs.

  67. struth

    You’ll soon need somebody walking out front of your car in Hi Viz getting any people in the area to sign that they have been warned of the car’s approach, and warning that the colour of the vehicle may be offensive to some ……………………….

  68. No one:

    Some idiot:

    The My Lai massacre means that the Viet Minh at worst are only morally equivalent to the USA.

    Whilst no one in their right mind would defend My Lai, the ignorance, delusion and duplicity of Bob Bobby Bob numbers is just sickening.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_terrorism#Vietnam

    Douglas Pike also described the Đắk Sơn massacre, in which the Vietcong used flamethrowers against civilians in Đắk Sơn, killing 252, as a terrorist act.[57] In May 1967, Dr. Tran Van-Luy reported to the World Health Organization “that over the previous 10 years Communist terrorists had destroyed 174 dispensaries, maternity homes and hospitals.”[58] Ami Pedahzur has written that “the overall volume and lethality of Vietcong terrorism rivals or exceeds all but a handful (e.g. Algeria, Sri Lanka) of terrorist campaigns waged over the last third of the twentieth century,”[59] and that the VC used suicide terrorism as a form of propaganda of the deed.[60] Arthur J. Dommen has written that the majority of those killed due to VC terrorism were civilians, caught in ambushes as they traveled on buses, and that the group burnt down villages and forcibly conscripted members.[61]

    Good lord numbers. You’re kind of useful idiot who would defend Stalin and the show trials.

  69. Arky

    Calley was found guilty of personally murdering 22 civilians and sentenced to life imprisonment, but his sentence was reduced to 20 years by the Court of Military Appeals and further reduced to 10 years by the Secretary of the Army.

    ..
    My Lai perps were tried and found guilty.
    From memory, a gunship pilot attempted to stop the thing by putting his ship between the perps and the village.
    How in hell, in your bloody stupid head, does this in any fucking way, as horrible as it is, equate with the systematic communist bloc murders of upwards of 100 million people over seventy years?
    You complete and utter mong.

  70. John Constantine

    http://www.victoriawalks.org.au/

    Victoria vill valk, vows our socialist kleptocracy.

    Imagine how much money can be saved on roads when cars are banned.

    Electric Cheerful Squalorbuggies with top speeds of 30kmh.

    [You didn’t imagine that electric cars means ones like we have the freedom to use now, did you?.]

    Comrades.

  71. struth

    Queensland Labor about to go ape shit installing speed cameras everywhere while their third world goat tracks make it impossible in most places to reach the speed limit without doing damage to the vehicle.
    Hence the need to lower limits!

  72. egg_

    This page is already one of the shittest ones at the cat ever.
    Hang your heads in shame.
    Some of the stupidest trolling and lamest responses ever seen here.
    Lift your bloody games.
    Numbers, you are a shit troll.

    Is NumbNutz on triple Soros rates today?

  73. Just another of the transparent little hooks you always insert to elicit a response.

    No – a simple statement of fact.
    There was a mass baptism.
    Two of the kids were confirmed also, by the way.
    It happens from time to time.
    The family was Sudanese.
    They could have been Iraqi Kurds.
    Toowoomba is a regional destination for refugees.
    There is a thriving Sudanese community in this town.
    They’re gentle people who work hard.
    The race of the candidates was neither here nor there.
    Cohenite made it an issue, not me.

    Unfortunately, if you mention race here, you always run the risk of a rant.

  74. Mindfree

    VicRoads is supportive of trials to investigate the benefits of 30km/h speed limits and to understand the community’s interest in small scale trials on local roads with high concentrations of pedestrians and/or cyclists.

    Action Plan “Towards Zero”

    Is that for the number of fatalities or the speed limit?

    BTW TE thanks for the link to Colgate

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Whilst no one in their right mind would defend My Lai, the ignorance, delusion and duplicity of Bob Bobby Bob numbers is just sickening.

    Six thousand South Vietnamese civilians were massacred in Hue, during the 1968 Tet offensive – the removal of the memorial to those victims was the first action the North Vietnamese took, when they occupied the city in 1975.

  76. Arky

    The race of the candidates was neither here nor there.

    ..
    then why did you mention it?

  77. The pea and thimble moral equivalence game that Bob Bobby Bob numbers is up to right now is the exact same sickening historical revisionism bullshit that Neo-Nazis use to downplay or deny the mass murder committed by the Hitlerites.

    Flamethrowers used on civilians. Targeting of dispensaries, maternity homes and hospitals.

    The true moral crime of the Vietnam war was not defeating the VC and NVA and conquering the North and executing the Viet Minh terrorists and their cowardly, mass murdering leaders.

    Anyone who denies this is morally equivalent to the architects of the gas chambers in Nazi Germany, such as Hitler, Himmler or Amon Goth.

  78. Leigh Lowe

    The race of the candidates was neither here nor there.

    So, why did you attach the descriptor “Sudanese”.
    Why not simply say, “ten people were baptised at Mass this morning”?

  79. Arky

    Hugh Clowers Thompson Jr.
    Hugh Clowers Thompson Jr. (April 15, 1943 – January 6, 2006) was a United States Army Major, and a former warrant officer in the 123rd Aviation Battalion of the 23rd Infantry Division. He helped end the My Lai Massacre of the South Vietnamese village known as Sơn Mỹ on March 16, 1968.
    During the massacre, Thompson and his Hiller OH-23 Raven crew, Glenn Andreotta and Lawrence Colburn, stopped a number of killings by threatening and blocking American officers and enlisted soldiers of Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd Infantry Division. Additionally, Thompson and his crew saved a number of Vietnamese civilians by personally escorting them away from advancing United States Army ground units and assuring their evacuation by air. Thompson reported the atrocities by radio several times while at Sơn Mỹ. Although these reports reached Task Force Barker operational headquarters, nothing was done to stop the massacre. After evacuating a child to a Quảng Ngãi hospital, Thompson angrily reported to his superiors at Task Force Barker headquarters that a massacre was occurring at Sơn Mỹ. Immediately following Thompson’s report, Lieutenant Colonel Frank A. Barker ordered all ground units in Sơn Mỹ to cease search and destroy operations in the village.
    In 1970, Thompson testified against those responsible for the My Lai Massacre. Twenty-six officers and enlisted soldiers, including William Calley and Ernest Medina, were charged with criminal offenses

    ..
    What would have happened to any officer trying to stop one of Stalin’s, Mao’s or Pol Pots organised murder squads?
    Decorated? Feted?
    Not fucking likely, Numbers Fonda.

  80. You are actually doubling down on this you idiot and making moral equivalence with the USA and the Viet Minh.

    Not really. There may be moral equivalence, however, between the Viet Minh, and the American revolutionaries (1775 – 1783).
    War was not fought on an industrial scale then, although it began to be so during the civil war (1861 – 1865).
    As I recall, there were 25000 people killed in the American War of Independence.
    This was dwarfed by 620000 who died in the Civil war.
    The Viet Minh were Vietnamese fighting for Independence in their own country.
    The Americans were part of a military occupation.

    I wonder what the figures would have been if a foreign power or powers had intervened in either of these two wars as the US did in Vietnam?

    What were you saying about “moral equivalence?”

  81. then why did you mention it?

    Because it was fact.
    Facts don’t go down well on Catallaxy.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t worry about Breitbart, spastic herder.

    It’s when you use Pedestrian TV as a resource – you know, the ‘gossip youth’ page that clearly marks you as an industrial strength, Olympic class retard.

    Dished out some ‘love not hate’ to the Viet Cong yet? You said yourself you loved them so much you forgave them their sins and scuttled back inside the wire as quick as you could, becoming the only film projectionist to have a comprehensive understanding of the political machinations of another country whose people he loathes (too stupid to vote) but who will take money from them, assuming someone somewhere can translate the tear-stained etchings of his pamphlet.

    Mr Locked and Loaded SLR. It wasn’t a mistake, you didn’t misspeak, you saw that line in a movie somewhere and decided to make a fictional anecdote about your colossal bravery in the teeth of enemy fire using that phrase, forgetting your audience. This is why you have – Zero. Credibility.

    It’s like being drip fed Bob Ellis, another filthy communist on a daily basis. Except Ellis had talent.

  83. What a clown. John Adams being compared to Ho Chi Minh.

  84. Arky

    I wonder what the figures would have been if a foreign power or powers had intervened in either of these two wars as the US did in Vietnam?

    ..
    Read some history for God’s sake.
    The French and English were fighting a proxy war for North America.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Viet Minh were Vietnamese fighting for Independence in their own country.

    An “independence” with only one model of Government. Any other Nationalist leaders were murdered, betrayed to the French, or purged after 1954.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    Jesus.

    Do you mean the dozens of blockade running French naval vessels and thousands of troops fighting with the Continentals, or the massive number of Hessian (that’s German, Bob) mercenaries that fought with the Union?

    You insecure, snivelling Walter Mitty.

  87. Arky

    The French were up to their eyeballs in the American revolution.

  88. Arky

    The French were up to their eyeb-lls in the American revolution.

  89. Arky

    Correct KD.
    How could anyone not know this and think they are educated?

  90. Confused Old Misfit

    Well, all back from church?
    I hope you enjoyed the service, whatever your theology.
    No need to ask if you appreciate the significance of the occasion.
    Like the newly baptized Somalis, you can now carry on sinning, secure in the knowledge that a man was crucified for your benefit and that a few Hail Marys will absolve you from whatever indiscretions in which you choose to indulge in the future.
    Whatever your beliefs, or lack thereof, you have to admit that the occasion has inspired some magnificent artistic creations.

  91. “No foreign involvement”, LOL, what a turkey.

    The list of belligerents in the US Revolutionary War is long and surprising.

    Even the East Indians (Kingdom of Mysore) got involved!

    https://historyofmassachusetts.org/who-fought-revolutionary-war/

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    Arky,

    It’s the Crayon Eater we’re talking about. An intellectual amoeba.

    For some reason he continues to invent his own history, still not realising that every other living organism on Earth is more intelligent than him. A virtue-signalling pants-wetter.

  93. rickw

    VicRoads is supportive of trials to investigate the benefits of 30km/h speed limits and to understand the community’s interest in small scale trials on local roads with high concentrations of pedestrians and/or cyclists.

    Generation dingbat can’t cross a road safely without their mum or dad helping them.

  94. Bill Thompson

    Outside Insiders – It’s election time, so the airwaves are infested with politicians & their associates, spruiking their preferred talking points. I reckon we should take far more notice of what they actually DO, rather than just what they SAY… (PS – cohenite, I tried to contact you after last week but no dice. Maybe we can link on facebook or twitter?)

    https://youtu.be/MHjXucsd004

  95. Overburdened:

    As predicted, the public is being softened up for a crescent moon over Notre Dame.

    Eggzakkerly.
    The Crescent Moon will be among other religious symbols, but it will be there. “Celebrating the Rich Religious Tapestry of Europe.” Of course, it will catch the sun at dawn and evening while the others languish in the darkness because the CM is offset just that little bit.
    The bullshit just writes itself, dunnit?

  96. Arky

    Generation dingbat can’t cross a road safely without their mum or dad helping them.

    ..
    This is a consequence of the school zone 40 km/hr thing.
    A whole generation is raised, trained to cross the road estimating speeds at below 40 KPH.
    Plenty of time to stroll across looking at your phone.
    I predicted this at the time.
    Not the phone thing. The poor estimation of time and speed. The school zones will, overall, cost more lives than they save.

  97. Nick

    Cyclists ? Pffft it’s strange road rights seldom mean them actually following the same rules that licensed road suedes users do.

  98. Arky

    A kid of 13, five years ago would have been daily crossing the road to get to school with traffic flows below 40 KPH, and his or her mind and reactions is trained to that speed.
    That individual is now 18, and is frequenting nightlife, getting wasted and crossing the road with traffic flows above 60 KPH.
    This is a predicable cluster fuck.

  99. rickw

    A numbers skid mark down this whole page.

  100. Bruce of Newcastle

    VicRoads is supportive of trials to investigate the benefits of 30km/h speed limits

    Madness.
    No one is going to go 30 km/h, not even in school zones let alone suburban streets.
    Since everyone will feel the law is stupid they will go at whatever speed they like.
    So the danger will be made worse.
    Then Vicroads will do the speed camera thing, people will avoid or sabotage the cameras like the yellow jackets did. Anyone caught speeding will just not pay the fine, and if they lose their license they’ll drive without one.
    Which is why traffic is crazy in most 3rd world places.
    Great way to turn an entire population into criminals is to put in stupid really annoying laws.

  101. Arky

    In fact, if you wanted to kill more 18 yos on the roads in five years time, 30KPH zones is exactly what you would bring in.
    30 zones will double the misjudgement from 30 to 60, and halve the time youngsters have to cross the roads when they go from the safe zone to reality.

  102. Baldrick

    A numbers skid mark down this whole page.

    Commenting on Scumbers posts is the laxative to his skid marks.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6943701/Cop-killer-fights-right-tweet.html

    The only sentence this douche nozzle should ever have received involved an eight o’clock walk to the gallows.

  104. mh

    There is a thriving Sudanese community in this town.

    They certainly thrive in the West.

    Not so much in Sudan.

  105. Fisky

    The Viet Minh were Vietnamese fighting for Independence in their own country.

    Who were happy to do deals with the French to wipe out indigenous nationalist parties in ’46, and whose successor regime (DRVN) handed over the Paracels and Spratleys on a diplomatic platter to Mao! Terrible!

  106. Mark from Melbourne

    Well, I have to say that an Easter Egg Hunt with about 20 local kids in the park is quite possibly the most uplifting thing you can do at Easter.

    Yes, the bubbly, coffee and hot cross buns helped, but the look on their faces as they start the hunt is something very special. The better part of 3kg of eggs was found in under 5 minutes, the maggies only got 4 or 5 and there was a general wonderful feeling.

    Even better, it was totally unauthorised by the People’s Democratic Isl-mic Republic of Yarrastan!

  107. rickw

    From this to 3rd World in one lifetime, impressive!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfFYc4C_JCA

  108. John Constantine:

    Imagine how much money can be saved on roads when cars are banned.

    Electric Cheerful Squalorbuggies with top speeds of 30kmh.

    Imagine the amount of flyover roadspace that will become available!
    Actually, I’m surprised the city block with an entire floor devoted to vehicular traffic with a pedestrian level in the sun above it hasn’t been pushed. Think of it as planning for population densities on Generation Ships.

  109. Ellie

    Midday movie just watched.
    Shutter Island. Loved it. Martin Scorsese – a brilliant mind.
    Can only watch it once. The movie. The ending.
    What a mind F$ck.

  110. Bruce of Newcastle

    Even better, it was totally unauthorised by the People’s Democratic Isl-mic Republic of Yarrastan!

    Well of course. The dire threat of childhood obesity, the racism of brown chocolate eggs, and the symbolic exploitation of egg-laying creatures are all terrible things. If Yarragrad council didn’t ban it PETA would be all over you, gluing themselves to whatever stuff in the park they could glue themselves to.

  111. Bill Thompson

    Has anyone else noticed UBER drivers pulling up in traffic, whenever/wherever they want?

    https://youtu.be/0lNtWTcHXAk

  112. Mindfree

    Bruce of Newc
    Madness.
    No one is going to go 30 km/h, not even in school zones let alone suburban streets.
    Since everyone will feel the law is stupid they will go at whatever speed they like.
    So the danger will be made worse.
    Then Vicroads will do the speed camera thing, people will avoid or sabotage the cameras like the yellow jackets did. Anyone caught speeding will just not pay the fine, and if they lose their license they’ll drive without one.
    Which is why traffic is crazy in most 3rd world places.
    Great way to turn an entire population into criminals is to put in stupid really annoying laws.

    As lunatic totalitarian bureaucrat Floyd Ferris said in Atlas Shrugged

    “Laws aren’t made to be followed – laws are made to be broken” (or words to that effect)

  113. Fisky

    The Australian

    @australian
    4m4 minutes ago
    More
    Scott Morrison has allowed cameras inside his Pentecostal church for the first time, giving voters a rare glimpse of the PM #auspol http://bit.ly/2PtNXdT

    Instantly costing him about 5% in the polls.

  114. mh

    Seems the Left don’t have a problem with their own (CNN) saying this

    AprilDRyan
    @AprilDRyan
    Will you get into heaven? The answer is no!
    https://twitter.com/AprilDRyan/status/1119392932358844416?s=20

  115. Anthony

    Mueller tells us that he cannot charge Trump, nor can he exonerate him. Yep, that sounds right – he cannot charge Trump and he does not have the power to exonerate Trump. I was under the impression that there is only one thing that Muesling can do and that is he can recommend charges be laid against Trump. But he hasn’t done that. He’s done SFA.
    The dam holding back the deep state has cracked, is leaking and is about to burst. Oh, happy days.

  116. Notafan

    Shutter island is that the film based on the Denise Lehane book, with Sean Penn in it?

  117. feelthebern

    I wonder what the figures would have been if a foreign power or powers had intervened in either of these two wars as the US did in Vietnam?

    Add this to the list of things that makes number scarce for a bit.
    It just shows that numbers is not a student of history.
    In this day & age when information is readily available, this makes you a fool.

  118. feelthebern

    List of things that makes numbers scarce:
    * tipping in the US in light of his bullshit story;
    * his relationship with his father;
    * his lack of knowledge regarding foreign players in the US war of independence & the US civil war.

  119. OldOzzie

    Bill Shorten an opposition leader in search of leadership

    Terry McCrann


    At the risk of further upsetting Bill Shorten I really must complement him on his honesty.

    We had to elect Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard to find out they were among Australia’s worst-ever prime ministers. In my personal judgment, they — metaphorically — clasped hands to leapfrog Gough Whitlam and Malcolm Fraser, previously the “gold standard in awfulness”, to claim joint ownership of the title.

    But let’s not be pedantic about ranking; there is a pantheon of prime ministerial awfulness and Shorten, to his credit, has uniquely “announced” before the election his determination to join it.

    Canberra gallery journalist David Crowe, formerly of this paper and now seemingly more comfortably ensconced in the far-left hysteria of the Nine tabloid journals, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald, described Shorten’s “announcement” as some “small stumbles”.

    Hmm.

    I would judge a PM or PM-wannabe not knowing the price of a litre of milk off the top of their head as being a “small stumble”.

    I would judge a treasurer not being able to instantly detail — in response to a smart-arse question out of the blue — what the ‘S’ in GOS from the national accounts meant, or even indeed what the Reserve Bank’s official interest rate was, as somewhat bigger “small stumbles”.

    But the leader of a political party in an election campaign “forgetting” not only $30 billion in new taxes he was proposing, but indeed the broader underlying ethic which drove those taxes, as something other than a “small stumble”.

    I would further apply a different descriptor than “small stumble” to the leader of a political party refusing point blank to detail or even attempt to deny the costs of the most fundamental, most wide-reaching, most fundamentally economy and society-changing policy being ever proposed by a party seeking government.

    Or indeed, being even prepared to defend the policy, as Shorten failed to do under persistent questioning from Ten News reporter Jonathan Lea, whom I can only conclude was making his own “announcement” that he was not a member of the Canberra Press Gallery.

    What made it worse, far worse, was Shorten’s body language as he desperately flubberbusted, swinging his tilted head with increasing ferocity from side to side.

    One could almost feel his desperate pain: where was Julia, where was the real leader, whose words he could simply defer to?

    Indeed, I would not have been surprised to see him take desperate refuge in her most famous quote: at least, there won’t be a carbon tax under a government I, Shorten, lead.

    Even going with Crowe’s descriptor, Shorten’s (huge) small stumbles were bad enough in themselves.

    It’s the broader, more fundamental disaster that a PM Shorten would be, that they spoke to, which was by far the more devastating.

    What we saw was a clear statement of two things that even the Gallery must have sussed out about Shorten, both in his time as minister and plotter and even more as Opposition Leader. That, frankly, while he might be, in the old mantra, foreman material, he lacks real leadership capacities and he is intellectually and policy lazy.

    That makes him both similar to and very different to our most recent failed PM Malcolm Turnbull. What they share is a “born-to-be-king” expectation of the prime ministership, but also a complete lack of any specific or broad policy objective.

    I’ve previously described Turnbull’s experience as that of the dog who caught the car. Having caught it, what do you do next? As we discovered: nothing.

    We are seeing with Shorten something a tad, but qualitatively different. He is of course still to “catch the car”. But what we could then expect — and this was the real message in his “small stumbles” — is that he would happily run along beside it; a car, driven by someone else.

    This is best captured in his embrace of “taking real action on climate change” and the 45 per cent across-the-board cut in Australia’s emissions of carbon dioxide.

    It’s as if someone has told him it would be a good idea; and it has the added twofer benefit of likely delivering him the “car” he’s been chasing for at least 15 years. But beyond that, he hasn’t a clue of the actual nuts and bolts or even really the why.

    He can happily mouth the religious mantras, even recite the policy briefs — when he’s not under too much pressure, like he was with Lea. But that’s as deep as it goes: he aims to really enjoy the Lodge and international schmoozing, but don’t ask him to actually lead anyone or anywhere.

    Enough of Shorten’s commendable if unintended honesty: I’ll finish with two big points about the whole “doing something about climate change” nonsense.

    First, to restate the basic fact that the 21st century true believers are completely cognitively dissonant about — that Australia could reduce its total emissions to zero — and it would make zero, zada, zilch absolutely no difference to the climate, either global or even more pointedly local.

    Cutting our emissions by 45 per cent can only make, for want of a better word, sense if the whole world is doing the same thing. It is clearly not: it is still increasing emissions by more than the Australian total every year.

    But if the world did get serious, there is no way we would be able to buy cheap international abatement permits — as both Labor’s policy and all the farcical climate economic modelling requires. Everybody would be trying to buy them. Just imagine China’s demand.

    Second, in a world that “got serious” about not using fossil fuels, the prices of coal and oil would plunge. They are already the cheapest sources of real energy; they would become even cheaper. Rational countries would rush to re-use them. Some of us would rediscover why we long ago first abandoned windmills and drying things in the sun.

  120. Mark from Melbourne

    Well of course. The dire threat of childhood obesity, the racism of brown chocolate eggs, and the symbolic exploitation of egg-laying creatures are all terrible things. If Yarragrad council didn’t ban it PETA would be all over you, gluing themselves to whatever stuff in the park they could glue themselves to.

    Bruce, you live in a simpler world!

    You forget the lack of police check or the working with children permits that none of us had. You also omit the sad fact that we did no OH&S assessment. The fact that the effect of the eggs on local birdlife was unquantified (Maggies, I’m looking at you…) has escaped your attention as well. And I’m fairly sure that roping off a third of a public park for the event isn’t in the guidelines either, now I come to think of it.

    Worst of all, you completely ignore the fact that no hi-viz was worn.

    It was, in short, a wonderful morning.

  121. cohenite

    Bill Thompson

    #2993736, posted on April 21, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    Outside Insiders – It’s election time, so the airwaves are infested with politicians & their associates, spruiking their preferred talking points. I reckon we should take far more notice of what they actually DO, rather than just what they SAY… (PS – cohenite, I tried to contact you after last week but no dice. Maybe we can link on facebook or twitter?)

    Bill, contact Leon and tell him you’ve been talking to cohenite:

    Ashby, Leon (Sen F. Anning)

  122. feelthebern

    The history of how the US became a nation was brutal, genius, sordid, corrupt & horrifying all at once.
    Only Russia & China go anywhere near it using the same measures.

  123. cohenite

    Try again:

    Ashby, Leon (Sen F. Anning) [email protected];

  124. OldOzzie

    AS NIGHT FOLLOWS DAY: MORRISON SUCCESS FOLLOWED BY TURNBULL SPRAY

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    Malcolm Turnbull is cementing his reputation for being manically vindictive. As predicted, he could not let Scott Morrison go unpunished for having had a strong week on the election trail.

    And what must really gall Turnbull is that Morrison had that success by attacking Shorten on global warming, which Turnbull had turned into a Liberal weak spot by endorsing the whole nonsense.

    Turnbull was already openly campaigning against the Liberals out of sheer spite at being dumped as a failure. He’s backing anti-Liberal candidates and attacking the Liberals constantly.

    But if Morrison pulls off a miracle win (unlikely, but still) by fighting the warming alarmism that Turnbull himself was party to, what a massive humiliation and personal repudiation of Turnbull that would be.

    So no wonder Turnbull has now staged this pathetic and so-transparent wah-wah:

    I see @David_Speers is referring to the National Energy Guarantee as “Malcolm Turnbull’s NEG”. In fact the NEG had the support of the entire Cabinet, including and especially the current PM and Treasurer. It was approved by the Party Room on several occasions.
    — Malcolm Turnbull (@TurnbullMalcolm) April 20, 2019

    That is the only reason it has been abandoned by the Government. The consequence is no integration of energy and climate policy, uncertainty continues to discourage investment with the consequence, as I have often warned, of both higher emissions and higher electricity prices.
    — Malcolm Turnbull (@TurnbullMalcolm) April 20, 2019

    And before anyone suggests the previous tweet is some kind of revelation – all of the economic ministers, including myself, @ScottMorrisonMP @JoshFrydenberg spent months arguing for the NEG on the basis that it would reduce electricity prices and enable us to lower our emissions.
    — Malcolm Turnbull (@TurnbullMalcolm) April 20, 2019

    “Now, where and when we believe there would be sufficient support in the House of Reps, and obviously in our Party Room, to progress this component of the scheme we’ll bring it forward once again.” And “The National Energy Guarantee remains the Government’s policy”
    20/8/18
    — Malcolm Turnbull (@TurnbullMalcolm) April 20, 2019

    Turnbull pushed a fake fix to a fake crisis, and tried to ram it down the throat of a party which knew it was bad politics as well.

    Finally the Liberals revolted – too late – and still Turnbull can’t accept his monumental political failure.

  125. Notafan

    Why the dire predictions of an islamic Notre Dame?

    The French have been the only ones with the guts to search mosques for contraband, and close down mosques associated with hate preachers.

    Those allowed to reopen have done so, after years of closure do so with cctv.

    Burkas are banned in public.

    The French have suffered greviously from I slamic terrorist and now significant anti immigration political parties.

    More will the devout 8 percent accept the symbols of a false religious on their cathedral

    M oslems have their own places..

  126. feelthebern

    feelthebern
    #2993565, posted on April 21, 2019 at 9:23 am
    On this day 10 years ago, Kevin Rudd was interviewed outside his local church, all pious-like.
    Today, if ScoMo is interviewed anywhere near a church, he’ll be looked upon as crack-pot.
    On this day, next Easter, Bill Shorten will be interviewed outside some church, all pious-like.

    I posted this about ScoMo & church this morning.
    Why would he let the cameras into a Pentecostal shindig?

  127. Rossini

    It’s a crying shame that malcontent hasn’t followed Julia’s example….

  128. Dr Fred Lenin

    I see the Ukrainians have elected a comedian as president ! Reality strikes ,we have been electing comedians to office for years ,only difference the Ukrainian guy knows hes a comedian and admits it .
    If it wasnt so bloody tragique you would laugh at the stupid earwax eater krudd, giliard one of the witches from a comedy macbeth , ,turnbull a comedy rumpole who never wins , scomo a pompous little lawyer in mums army a takeoff on dads army ,shorten to bumbling cop who cant be sacked in the William .
    At least the Ukrainians will get a bit of a laugh mixed with the political bullshoi .

  129. Ellie

    Shutter island is that the film based on the Denise Lehane book, with Sean Penn in it?

    I didn’t read the book. The book is always better.
    Leonardo DiCaprio was the main actor in the film.
    Ben Kingsley was brilliant.

  130. OldOzzie

    SPECCIE OUT: CAMPAIGNING WITH ABBOTT

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    The latest Spectator Australia is out now. Enjoy Piers Akerman helping mate Tony Abbott campaign door to door, but take heed from Neil Brown’s warning against the Voice – an invitation to apartheid. Buy or subscribe.

    Neil Brown, former deputy Liberal leader:

    Piers Akerman:

    I stepped out in Warringah on Saturday and stepped into a social media storm. I had earlier asked my old friend and former colleague Tony Abbott if I could personally assist him in his re-election campaign and he had invited me to join him door knocking in his electorate…

    As I was later to tell the ABC’s Patricia Karvelas in a note she posted to her Twitter account and which I also posted on Facebook after several rather ugly comments were made there, we went to approximately 50 homes, only about half of which had residents present. Of those, the majority were for Tony…

    Opposition leader Bill Shorten’s media team had picked up on a photograph showing Tony talking to one of his constituents with me in the background wearing his campaign volunteer t-shirt and posted it on #ShortenSuite. I wasn’t working as a journalist (I’m a contributing columnist to News Ltd’s Sunday Telegraph) but believed I was entitled to do what I wished with my time. Participating inthe democratic process is not a crime.

    I certainly wasn’t proclaiming to be an independent journalist as those activists who spruik for leftist causes at ‘our’ ABC or the Nine Media group’s newspapers do constantly when they are spruiking for the Greens or Labor. A mate does what he can for a mate.

    Rebecca Weisser on Whiffyleaks:

  131. Notafan

    Thanks Elle

    I was thinking of the other Lehane made into a movie, Mystic river.

    I’m not keen on DiCaprio but will have a look for shutter island.

    Last night I watched Dirty Harry and half of the Hunt for Red October.

    Now to watch the rest of the second one.

  132. 1735099

    List of things that makes Numbers scarce

    Some of us have lives. You know, other things to do.
    This scrofulous blog is a diversion, not a pastime.

  133. feelthebern

    I’m not a massive fan of Mark Levin’s commentary, but his analysis is usually pretty sound.
    If you get the chance watch the Levin show on Fox (it gets replayed a lot over the weekend), he goes into a lot of detail re the obstruction of justice part of the Mueller report.
    Pure, boring analysis.

  134. Cactus

    Anyone seen Lilyhammer on Netflix? Or have any recomendations? Need a good new show to binge now I drilled True Detective Season 3.

  135. OldOzzie

    Mob seeks ‘affirmation through alienation, virtue in ­victimhood’

    Piers Akerman, The Sunday Telegraph

    At this time, the holiest of the Christian calendar, it is difficult to escape the enduring sense that nothing has really changed in the human condition since Jesus Christ was dragged by a baying mob before a Roman judge in Jerusalem and sentenced to crucifixion.

    That same mob is with us now, 2000 years on, and has now, through the ­internet and social media, become ­universal.

    As Robert Thomson, the chief executive of News Corp, publisher of this newspaper, said last week: “There is no doubt that a mob mentality has taken hold in much of the West, and among the most pronounced of the mobs are illiberal liberals, who are roaming the landscape in the seemingly endless, insatiable quest for indignation and umbrage.

    “It is vituperation as virtue.”

    Mr Thomson, a former Melbourne Herald journalist who went on to work for the Financial Times before editing The Wall Street Journal and being ­elevated to his current role, was delivering the annual Keith Murdoch ­Oration at the State ­Library of Victoria.

    Even as he was speaking of universal trends playing out on the global stage, elements of his theme were playing out locally.

    “One example of that (mob) trend,” he said, “is the seething secularism that portrays any person of faith, whether an evanescent evangelical or occasional attendee at mass or synagogue or mosque or temple as a nutter, a fruitcake, touched, a devotee of the ­deviant.”

    He might have been talking about confected outrage over Wallaby star ­Israel Folau’s posting of a short sharp reminder of the Biblical position on homosexuality, adultery, and drunkenness (among other sins).

    Mr Thomson, no prude, gave a nod to the enormous breadth of the frailties and accounts contained within the ­Biblical narrative, allowing “there ­surely are religious texts that, if you are literal, are a tad apocalyptic, a bit ­bizarre. Job’s endless sufferings and travails resonate across the faiths … in our time, surely a trial lawyer could have monetised his trials, his agonies.

    “And there certainly have been egregious abuses in the Catholic and other churches for which the offenders must be held to account, but to focus solely, obsessively on the sins is to caricature all those who have faith.”

    And he absolutely nailed the bizarre situation in what is now the People’s Socialist Soviet of Victoria where the local Comedy Festival has decided that its top award, the Barry, which once honoured the co-founder of the Festival Barry Humphries, creator Australia’s best-known comedic figure Dame Edna Everage and her co-star Sir Les Patterson, should be renamed the ­Melbourne International Comedy ­Festival Award.

    What a hoot that name is!

    As Mr Thomson presciently noted in his speech: “We are going through a strange phase in seeking affirmation through alienation, virtue in ­victimhood.”

    Offence has been taken at Barry Humphries’ casual remarks about the newly-emergent and apparently quite fragile population of transgender ­individuals.

    Victoria has led the rush to embrace gender fluidity and has installed the openly Marxist-driven Safe Schools agenda which is engineered to create uncertainty in prepubescent children about their sexuality regardless of their biological sex.

    Truly, there must be something in the Yarra water catchment area.

    Mr Humphries once said he thought transgenderism was a fashion and that he regarded the severing of sexual ­organs as self-mutilation. Hence he has been condemned.

    Mr Thomson dealt with this also, saying: “Australia famously dealt with a tyranny of distance, now the world has a tyranny of the distinguished, a smug, sneering elite that derides popular concerns as ‘populism’, and whose self-image is fuelled by an abiding sense of absolute superiority.”

    And as we look at the effects of the mob, it is worth noting in this election how the truly disgraceful populist Leftist organisation GetUp is equally guilty of failing to understand not only the concept of intellectual freedom but the very notion of truth.

    GetUp has thrown hundreds of thousands of dollars behind its ­campaign to unseat a number of ­Coalition candidates.

    Their most notable target is former PM Tony Abbott in his seat of Warringah, and they have been forced to withdraw a number of totally false claims.

    The mob supports GetUp, according to GetUp, and GetUp supports Labor and all those who oppose the economic security delivered by the Coalition, ­including the so-called independents Zali Steggall and Julia Banks.

    The passage of time, 2000 years in the case of Christianity, shows however that those who were not part of the mob were (to use the oft-repeated claim of the Left) on the right side of history.

    The message this Easter election is clear, do not be conned by the mob.

  136. Notafan

    Tony Abbott was non practicing for a while, is he attending mass on a regular basis again?

  137. feelthebern

    Some of us have lives. You know, other things to do.
    This scrofulous blog is a diversion, not a pastime.

    Numbers can’t multitask.
    Not unsurprising.

  138. Notafan

    And why are people suggesting that Easter is/was a pagan festival?

    Is there so much ignorance of the fact that Christ was a J ew and on Holy Thursday he celebrated Passover?

    Absolutely nothing to do with European pagan religions.

  139. OldOzzie

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2993699, posted on April 21, 2019 at 12:20 pm

    J1hadi bride unmasked by a phone lost in the caliphate

    By Dipesh Gadher
    The Times
    An hour ago April 21, 2019

    Also the Jihardi Bride does like Western Clothes as well as Walking Black Coffin

  140. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2993771, posted on April 21, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    The French and Indian War (1754–1763)
    American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)
    War of 1812
    Civil War
    Indian American Wars

  141. Notafan

    Cactus have you seen bodyguard?
    The French series spirals is very good.

    There in another French one set in Paris that is vg. I’ll look up the name.

    Not sure if either are on Netflix’s though.

    Harlan coben’s safe was okay..

  142. Notafan

    Braquo is the other one.

  143. cohenite

    This scrofulous blog is a diversion, not a pastime

    .

    Diversion; crap troll; it gives your useless commie life meaning.

  144. Top Ender

    The Assassination of Gianni Versace on Netflix is worth watching. A bit drawn out, and a bit annoying with its time-jump narratives but very well done.

  145. Cuspert was a key propagandist and recruiter of Europeans for Isis. During their time together Abdi became more active on social media, using a Twitter account, according to Al Aan TV, with the handle @FreeOurSisters1.

    Why not shut down Twatter?

    If I did the same thing, I’d be in gaol.

    Being popular isn’t a reason not to enforce the law.

    Abdi, who is of Tunisian heritage, once lived a western lifestyle and was not afraid to dress in revealing clothes, according to early photos found on her phone.

    By the time she became involved in militant Islam in 2012 she was already divorced, with a daughter, Firdaus, from her first marriage.

    It was her second husband, Nader Hadra, from Frankfurt, who appears to have persuaded her to travel to Syria.

    I thought they killed sluts like this?

  146. OldOzzie

    Alarm sounded over Labor’s environmental laws

    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter


    Miners and farmers are sounding the alarm over sweeping changes to environmental laws being promised by Labor, warning major developments could face delays and higher costs under the proposed framework.

    The proposed laws would dramatically increase the role of the federal government in protecting biodiversity and landscapes, introducing for the first time a new national Environmental Protection Authority.

    (Yet more bloody Non-Productive Public Servants on Taxpayer Teat based in Cuckoo Land of Canberra)

    Amid ongoing debate over the Coalition’s election-eve approval of Adani’s Galilee Basin coal mine, Labor’s environment spokesman Tony Burke said the nation’s environmental laws needed to be made clearer and more effective.

    “The new legal framework and EPA will compel the Australian government to actively protect our unique natural environment including protecting threatened species and habitat,” Mr Burke told The Australian.

    Mr Burke said the new legal framework would deliver more certainty for industry by providing early advice on development proposals, including information on conditions that could be attached to project approvals, saving developers millions of dollars.

    However, key national industries told The Australian that Labor had failed to provide crucial details on its proposed reforms, including how the toughened federal regime would interact with state assessment and approvals processes.

    “If not addressed, mining companies and other Australian businesses will face another layer of bureaucracy which will cost jobs, discourage investment and make it easier for activists to disrupt and delay projects,” Minerals Council of Australia chief executive Tania Constable said.

    “Australia’s mining projects are already required to jump through significant multiple legislative and regulatory hoops before being allowed to proceed, with environmental approvals taking many years.

    “A one-year delay can reduce the net present value of a major mining project by up to 13 per cent and cost up to $1 million every day.”

    Vimy Resources chief nuclear officer Julian Tapp said it had taken the company about three years and $5 million to secure the necessary state and federal approvals for its proposed Mulga Rock mine, about 250km northeast of Kalgoorlie.

    Under current federal environment laws the company was allowed to avoid duplicating its environmental assessment processes, enabling it to submit the same tests and research to both the Western Australian and federal governments.

    “The notion that a beefed up federal authority would somehow streamline approvals — well how’s it going to do that? You are always going to have to go through the states.

    “Remember, the states are the ones who control mining, issue al the licences and everything. All your approvals are always going to be at the state level.”

    The proposed changes would create a new land clearing trigger for federal scrutiny of development proposals, and potentially introduce a new trigger requiring federal approval for projects that might impact on national parks.

    The National Farmers Foundation said state land clearing laws were already making it difficult for landowners to run their businesses, and further layers of regulation could leave many unable to compete.

    “We just don’t know how far it might go. We need to understand what this really means,” NFF general manager of natural resources Warwick Ragg said.

    He said farmers were looking for support to protect biodiversity, rather than legislation that was “restrictive an uneconomic”.

    “That should be the mechanism by which we sustainably and economically manage the landscape, not by imposing laws,” Mr Ragg said.

    The Australian Conservation Foundation’s nature program manager Basha Stasak accused industry groups of “scaremongering” about the proposed laws.

    “Australia has had a national environment law for nearly 20 years, yet in that time threatened species habitat larger than the size of Tasmania has been bulldozed,” she said.

    “Australia is a global extinction hotspot, leading the world on mammal extinctions, so we desperately need new environmental laws capable of stemming the spiralling rates of extinction, backed by an independent national regulator to oversee them.”

  147. BoN
    Madness.
    No one is going to go 30 km/h, not even in school zones let alone suburban streets.
    Since everyone will feel the law is stupid they will go at whatever speed they like.
    So the danger will be made worse.
    Then Vicroads will do the speed camera thing, people will avoid or sabotage the cameras like the yellow jackets did. Anyone caught speeding will just not pay the fine, and if they lose their license they’ll drive without one.
    Which is why traffic is crazy in most 3rd world places.
    Great way to turn an entire population into criminals is to put in stupid really annoying laws.

    Whom the gods would destroy,…

    It is madness.
    But, I recall the recent experience of being stationary in a gridlock gazing at the 30kmph traffic sign.

  148. slackster

    Looks like Queen Elizabeth II has had enough and is sending Harry and Megan to Africa for 3 years after their baby is born.

  149. Cuspert was a key propagandist and recruiter of Europeans for “ICES”. During their time together Abdi became more active on social media, using a Twitter account, according to Al Aan TV, with the handle @ Free Our Sisters1.

    Why not shut down Twatter?

    If I did the same thing, I’d be in gaol.

    Being popular isn’t a reason not to enforce the law.

    Abdee, who is of Two nis ian heritage, once lived a western lifestyle and was not afraid to dress in revealing clothes, according to early photos found on her phone.

    By the time she became involved in militant Quaranic scholarship in 2012 she was already divorced, with a daughter, Firdaus, from her first marriage.

    It was her second husband, Nader Hadra, from Frankfurt, who appears to have persuaded her to travel to Syria.

    I thought they killed sluts like this?

  150. Mark A

    rickw
    #2993751, posted on April 21, 2019 at 1:45 pm

    From this to 3rd World in one lifetime, impressive!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfFYc4C_JCA

    now, now, rickw
    Think of all that nasty tariff protection to give those people jobs and a living.

    And how they missed all the Chinese food and the multicultie environment, makes you cry for the poor souls.
    Looking at the supermarket deli section, I can’t see a single thing you can buy now that you couldn’t buy then.
    I’m sure there are bound to be some.

    Reading the comments is worth your time.

  151. DrBeauGan

    I found those sixties and seventies lefty memes very unconvincing when they were fresh and new. Having them recycled by numbers these days is like reading a history book. A very boring, badly written history book. I do wish he’d go away, or die of old age the way his ideas did.

  152. Top Ender

    Sky News:

    Multiple blasts have hit two churches and two hotels in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday, reportedly causing casualties among worshippers.

  153. OldOzzie

    WSJ – The Legal Strategy That Paid Off for the President

    Trump lawyers sought to limit his contact with Robert Mueller but cooperate elsewhere

    WASHINGTON—When President Trump’s lawyers met with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team last April to negotiate the terms of a possible interview with the president, investigators expressed some annoyance.

    The two sides had come close to agreeing to terms for an interview four months earlier, investigators reminded the legal team. The interview was to be held in late January at Camp David for between two and six hours.

    “Then you people backed off,” investigators told the lawyers at a meeting in the special counsel’s office, according to Rudy Giuliani, a member of the president’s team, who was paraphrasing the comment. A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment.

    Jay Sekulow, another lawyer for the president, shot back, telling investigators that the early-morning raid earlier that month of former Trump attorney Michael Cohen’s properties had “created a lot of issues,” according to Mr. Giuliani’s account. Mr. Mueller’s team reminded Mr. Sekulow that the raid had been carried out by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office. Mr. Sekulow retorted that the special counsel had referred the matter to that office, Mr. Giuliani said.

    “I never discuss conversations we have had or have not had with the Special Counsel,” Mr. Sekulow said Friday.

    The episode, which hasn’t previously been reported, underscores the tug of war between the president’s lawyers and the special counsel that continued for more than a year over how and whether Mr. Trump would respond to investigators’ questions. Ultimately, Mr. Trump provided fewer than 2,500 words of written responses and never sat for an interview. That strategy now seems to have paid off, as Mr. Mueller has concluded his probe without establishing collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia or that the president obstructed justice.

    In part to thank for that is Mr. Mueller himself, who wrote in his report that he was guided by Justice Department policy that prohibits indicting a sitting president and opted not to pursue an investigation that could result in criminal charges against the president. Instead, Mr. Mueller pointed to the ability of Congress to investigate possible obstruction of justice by a president, and he made clear he wasn’t exonerating Mr. Trump.

    But legal experts also credited the president’s lawyers for limiting their client’s own interactions with Mr. Mueller while cooperating elsewhere, providing more than a million documents and dozens of witnesses to the investigation and declining to shield information on grounds of executive privilege. Mr. Mueller wrote in his report that his team wanted to ask the president more questions than the limited set he responded to in November 2018. They debated whether to pursue a subpoena but ultimately decided it wasn’t worth prolonging the investigation to do so.

    Mr. Trump’s lawyers “played a game of chicken” with the special counsel and won, said Lawrence Robbins, a veteran Washington litigator who has defended clients in perjury and obstruction cases. He said the legal team’s decisions undoubtedly helped the president.

    In January 2018, John Dowd, the president’s lead outside attorney at the time, sent a 20-page letter to Mr. Mueller rejecting an interview and laying out the legal and constitutional reasons the president didn’t need to testify. Some lawyers on the special counsel’s team at the time were disappointed, seeing the scuttled interview as a lost opportunity to perhaps wrap up the Trump-focused piece of the probe more quickly, The Wall Street Journal reported last year.

    Mr. Dowd, in an interview Friday, said his “tipoff” that an interview with the president wasn’t justified came when he asked Mr. Mueller why one was wanted in the first place. Mr. Mueller, he said, told him he wanted to “square up his corners.”

    “He couldn’t give me a question that only the president could answer,” said Mr. Dowd. He referred to Mr. Mueller’s move as “a PR strategy, not one on the merits.”

    Mr. Dowd left the team in March 2018, and Mr. Giuliani joined a month later, telling reporters he had an explicit mandate from the president to bring the investigation to a speedy close. Two Florida lawyers—Marty and Jane Raskin—joined the team around the same time.

    In the April meeting with investigators, Mr. Giuliani said he sought an assurance that the special counsel knew Mr. Trump couldn’t be indicted in accordance with Justice Department guidelines, and that when investigators had told the legal team Mr. Trump wasn’t a target of the investigation, it wasn’t purely because he couldn’t be charged Investigators replied affirmatively to both questions, Mr. Giuliani said.

    Over the coming months, Mr. Giuliani continued to publicly say the president was considering an interview. Privately, however, the odds of such an interview were dwindling, he told the Journal on Friday. By June, they were at 15%. That fall, they had dropped to about 5%, he said.

    The legal team, aware of the special counsel’s pursuit of charges against several Trump associates including former national security adviser Michael Flynn for lying to investigators, were most concerned about putting the president in a position where he could be charged with perjury. “We understood that our job was to make certain that they don’t get a chance to expand the charges against him by saying or doing something under oath that they can try to charge as perjury,” Mr. Giuliani said.

    At the same time, the team—in particular Mr. Giuliani—mounted a public-relations effort to tank the special counsel’s approval ratings. The team was mindful that because the president couldn’t be charged, the fate of the investigation would rest with Congress. “They’re not going to decide it based on what’s right and wrong, or legal and not legal—they’re going to decide it based on what’s politically better for them,” Mr. Giuliani said.

    That approach also drew criticism, particularly as Mr. Giuliani gained a reputation for making imprecise statements on television that the legal team later had to issue statements to clarify. Mr. Mueller in the section of his report focused on possible obstruction of justice repeatedly noted Mr. Giuliani’s public comments, including his mentions of possible pardons for the president’s associates.

    In November, nearly a year of negotiations culminated with the president’s lawyers submitting brief answers to more than 60 questions from the special counsel, which were included in Thursday’s report. Mr. Trump on more than 30 occasions said he “does not ’recall’ or ’remember’ or have an ’independent recollection,’” the report said. He didn’t answer any questions about obstruction.

    The president wrote the answers to the special counsel’s questions, and they were subsequently edited by the legal team, Mr. Giuliani said. The lawyers erred on the side of caution in every answer, shying away from including any specific dates and inserting caveats about the president’s memory. “We said, ‘How clear is your recollection?’ And the president said, ‘It’s really good but not complete,’” Mr. Giuliani said.

    Mr. Mueller told the president’s lawyers in December the written answers were insufficient and again requested an in-person interview, which Mr. Trump declined, according to the report. Investigators considered whether to issue a subpoena but determined the information they had gleaned from other sources was enough to “draw relevant factual conclusions on intent and credibility.”

    Mr. Mueller laid out a detailed rationale for why he opted not to pursue charges against the president, saying fairness concerns had guided his approach. But, he wrote, “The evidence we obtained about the President ’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.”

  154. jo

    Counterpart, SBS on demand JK Simmons
    is great

  155. Steve trickler

    This clip would be troubling for those pushing the MSM narratives, in play today. That being, the never ending Race Card.

    A good journo would parse the utube comments section.

    This is a good laugh.



  156. Ellie

    I’m not keen on DiCaprio but will have a look for shutter island.

    I’m not keen on him, too. He was very good in Shutter Island though. It’s a psychological thriller. Because of how it ends; it’s a watch once in a lifetime movie, IMO. Massive plot twist at the end. My head is still quite numb by the whole movie.

    Maybe my issue is I watched it sober/straight.
    Tailgunner, get in here and pass the spliff!

  157. Leigh Lowe

    Brendan Bolton.
    Supercoach.

  158. Ellie

    A little bit of a taste for you, Notafan.
    Here 🙂

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dozens dead in Sri Lanka church, hotel blasts
    Staff writer, AP with Reuters, News Corp Australia

    Six bombs have detonated near simultaneously at three churches and three hotels frequented by tourists in Sri Lanka, authorities say.

    At least 42 people have been killed and 160 more injured in the Easter Sunday bombings around 8.45am local time, according to local media.

    They were reported from at least two luxury hotels and a church in Colombo, and two other churches in Katana and in Negombo, north of Colombo.

    St. Sebastian’s Church in Negombo, a Catholic majority town, posted pictures of destruction inside the church on its Facebook page, showing blood on pews and the floor, and requested help from the public.

    There were no immediate claims of responsibility.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell. Those Carlton players are carrying on like each of them won Powerball at the same time.

  161. Top Ender

    Al Jazeera now saying 48 dead and 280 wounded in attacks on three churches and three hotels.

  162. Notafan

    Shall we see a similar outcry from the usual suspects when Catholic Christians are the target of hate?

    Just appalling.

    more on the bombings in Sri Lanka

  163. Tom

    Brendan Bolton.
    Supercoach.

    Huge sigh of relief: he’s just realised he won’t be sacked during the mid-year bye rounds. His sacking won’t now happen until Monday, August 26, the day after the home-and-away season finishes.

  164. DrBeauGan

    Top Ender
    #2993815, posted on April 21, 2019 at 3:55 pm
    Al Jazeera now saying 48 dead and 280 wounded in attacks on three churches and three hotels.

    What kind of foul subhuman wretches would do that?

  165. Nick

    Go Blues!
    Will the Bulldogs ever be able to live with the shame?

  166. Overburdened

    Correspondence from the South Sudan located offspring is that there isn’t much Eastering going on there.

    Maybe there was some celebratory shooting into the air, as is the wont of some people in various locations.

  167. Overburdened

    Re Sri Lanka

    A personal favourite country.

    The majority Sinhalese are Buddhists and the sense of everyday good will and community is a thing of beauty.

    As shown in the war against the Tamils, when provoked enough to react, they fight with commitment.

  168. stackja

    WORLD NEWS APRIL 21, 2019 / 2:58 PM / UPDATED 18 MINUTES AGO
    Easter Day bomb blasts kill more than 20 in Sri Lankan churches, hotels

    COLOMBO (Reuters) – Easter Day bomb blasts at three Sri Lankan churches and three hotels killed more than 20 people and wounded nearly 300, a hospital official and police sources said.

    Colombo National Hospital Director Samindi Samrakoon said she knew of at least 20 deaths and 280 people injured.

    A police spokesman said that three churches and three hotels were hit.

    At least two of the hotels and one of the churches are in the capital, Colombo. Another church is in Negombo, north of Colombo.

    A source in the police bomb squad said that one of the explosions was at St Anthony’s Church in Kochcikade, Colombo.

    “Our people are engaged in evacuating the casualties,” the source said.

    St. Sebastian’s church at Katuwapitiya in Negombo posted pictures of destruction inside the church on its Facebook page, showing blood on pews and the floor, and requested help from the public.

  169. Ellie

    Oh dear. Bulldog fans will be drowning their sorrows.
    I do remember their grand final win … not so long ago.
    Twas a magnificent win!

  170. Notafan

    Sri Lanka is 6.1% Catholic.

    Not a threat to anyone.

  171. Tom

    Sri Lanka is 6.1% Catholic.

    Not a threat to anyone.

    That makes anti-Christian hatred from moozleys the prime suspect.

  172. dover_beach

    Shall we see a similar outcry from the usual suspects when Catholic Christians are the target of hate?

    Just appalling.

    Bergoglio has more feet to kiss.

  173. Ellie

    Couldn’t make it to his church. Am out of town.
    Here is his sermon though.
    A j*wish man. An Anglican Christian, who hails from South Africa.
    Bless you, Mark ❤

  174. Baldrick

    At least 42 people have been killed and 160 more injured in the Easter Sunday bombings around 8.45am local time, according to Sri Lanka media.

    Still waiting for TheirABC to go into full wall-to-wall Christchurch mode coverage.
    Oh hang on …

    St. Sebastian’s Church in Negombo, a Catholic majority town, posted pictures of destruction inside the church on its Facebook page, showing blood on pews and the floor, and requested help from the public.

  175. Top Ender

    Al Jazeera now saying at least 100 dead.

  176. cohenite

    Harold Lloyd in Safety Last: no nets, no trickery:

  177. Nick

    Will the Sri Lankan President wear a crucifix ?

  178. Will the Sri Lankan President wear a crucifix ?

    Anybody know if our Jacinda is getting around dressed as a nun?

  179. Cactus

    Thanks Notafan. I havent seen. Always appreciate your responses.

  180. Overburdened

    The Sinhalese are very accommodating of minority religions such as Catholicism.

    If civil life, Schools advertise lessons in Sinhalese and Tamil, and the society is peaceful.

    It is generally one of the safest places in the world with a high level of culture and history.

    The religion that cannot be named is a minority, but larger than western religions.

    My personal observation is that they are insular.

  181. egg_

    Looks like Queen Elizabeth II has had enough and is sending Harry and Megan to Africa for 3 years after their baby is born.

    LMFAO.
    Markle can sparkle on the dark continent with her forebears.

  182. Overburdened

    It must be said that Colombo is a dangerous dump, but probably no more risky than Melbourneistan to the average punter that isn’t stupid and knows how to be wallpaper.

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dreadful carnage in Sri Lanka. Must be either Tamil Tigers or Meusli’s. Christian population is small, includes quite a few Protestant denominations as well as Catholics. I lived there for nearly a year with The Lefty Philosopher and our baby son, meeting the local Bishop of Kandy on a few social occasions, as our hosts were wealthy Anglican Singhalese. Just wished Happy Easter to my niece adopted from Sri Lanka before I read this news; it will be a sad day for her because she has many links there. We also holidayed at the Negombo beach area, where one of these three churches is located.

    This is still a troubled country; always simmering underneath, and the Buddhism isn’t exactly pacifist.

  184. Cactus

    I think someone here mentioned watching The Grand Tour Mongolia episode. Wow. One of the best I have ever seen. Much of the episode is the vista of the beautiful countryside. The rest is the trio pissed off at their situation. A great premise.

  185. Roger

    Dreadful carnage in Sri Lanka. Must be either Tamil Tigers or Meusli’s.

    We await a claim of responsibility.

    It makes no sense for Tamil Tigers to attack Catholic churches in particular as theirs was a secular ideology with a purely political agenda.

  186. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We flew back through Sri Lanka after our long stay, on the way back from London to Oz, just to say hello and bring friends some things from London that were ‘unavailable’, as most things were, for it was in the days before the economy had dropped its socialism and was opened up. One of the women of the house where we were staying came in with a baby wrapped in swaddlings, and asked me if I would adopt it and take it back to Australia with me: an impossible ask, due to us flying out in two days time. The babe was delivered to a fifteen year old Meusli girl hospitalised with stomach pains. She had been binding herself up to avoid detection of her pregnancy. The hospital supervisor said he had instructed the family not to beat her for at least a week. I sent money and my many tins of black-market baby milk powder to the orphanage for this little chap, but given the orphanages of the time, I didn’t like his chances. Later, I sent Big Sis, who did adopt there, a girl, my dear lovely niece. (I may have told of this before on the Cat, but it probably bears repeating; Sri Lanka has probably changed a lot, but the basic culture was ethnically divided and backward.

  187. mh

    Six nearly simultaneous explosions struck three churches and three hotels frequented by tourists on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka, killing at least 129 people, according to a security official in Colombo, the capital of the island nation in the Indian Ocean.

    Multiple fatalities resulted among worshipers and hotel guests, the official said, adding that at least two of the church blasts were believed to have been a coordinated attack carried out by suicide bombers.

    Monty, let us know the Left talking points.

    I guess Wally Waleed will return to ‘irritant’ mode.

  188. Vr

    Reports are over 129 killed in Sri Lanka. Over 400 injured. Monitoring the Indian press.

  189. Vr

    Reports are over 129 killed in Sri Lanka. Over 400 injured. Monitoring Indian press.

  190. stackja

    In its 2018 report on Sri Lanka’s human rights, the U.S. State Department noted that some Christian groups and churches reported they had been pressured to end worship activities after authorities classified them as “unauthorized gatherings.”

    The report also said Buddhist monks regularly tried to close down Christian and Muslim places of worship, citing unidentified sources.

  191. OldOzzie

    Cactus
    #2993843, posted on April 21, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    I think someone here mentioned watching The Grand Tour Mongolia episode. Wow. One of the best I have ever seen. Much of the episode is the vista of the beautiful countryside. The rest is the trio pissed off at their situation. A great premise.

    Yep Fabulous as Andy Wilman says to Radio Times

    The Mongolia special is The Grand Tour at its best – which is why next year will be all about the road trips

    The Grand Tour’s executive producer Andy Wilman introduces the final special of season three: “Without a shadow of a doubt the best has been saved till last”

    The premise is as simple as it is cruel: our three intrepid halfwits are dropped in the middle of the vast wilderness of Mongolia, hundreds of miles from any kind of civilisation, with just the shirts on their backs. Then, three crates are parachuted out of a helicopter. Inside the crates are a stash of car components and a message from Mr Wilman (how much do I love my job on days like these) telling them that in order to reach civilisation, they must build a vehicle from the components and somehow navigate their way through the wilderness.

    Before they can go anywhere though the vehicle must be built – a task which falls to Richard and James. Fortunately both of them have always been good with a spanner, but unfortunately one of them likes to take half a day doing up a nut whilst the other likes to slam something together as quickly as possible so he can get on with having a crash in it. Despite their differences though, a machine of Mad Max-ian provenance does eventually come together and the three of them then begin their epic odyssey to find a shower, a bog and a drink.

    The trek to civilisation is without doubt one of the toughest and most arduous Richard, James and Jeremy have ever undertaken. As jaw dropping as the Mongolian landscape may be – and My God is it ever – its terrain throws up immense challenges and obstacles, and if you’ve been following us these last 18 years, you’ll know those three are hardly poster boys for middle aged fitness.

  192. Al Jazeera now quoting Sri Lanka Police as saying 138 dead.

  193. stackja

    Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe called a national security council meeting at his home for later in the day.

    “I strongly condemn the cowardly attacks on our people today. I call upon all Sri Lankans during this tragic time to remain united and strong,” he said in a Tweet.

    “Please avoid propagating unverified reports and speculation. The government is taking immediate steps to contain this situation.”

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It makes no sense for Tamil Tigers to attack Catholic churches in particular as theirs was a secular ideology with a purely political agenda.

    Indeed. I think so too, on balance. However, you cannot tell who in the Singhalese hierarchy may have been Catholic and which group was giving payback to whom in this riven society. Our Anglican hosts were an interesting couple, a high Kandyan aristocratic woman married to a lower caste man of good professional prospects. The woman also had a father who was not of the best Kandyan ‘caste’ so this probably reduced the marriage value of the family in general. These things mattered so much and likely still do. Being ‘Christian’ allowed families of this sort to escape some of the caste-based opprobrium that still exists.

  195. stackja

    Easter Day bombs kill 138 in attacks on Sri Lankan churches, hotels

    COLOMBO (Reuters) – Easter Day bomb blasts at three Sri Lankan churches and three luxury hotels killed 138 people and wounded more than 400, hospital and police officials said, following a lull in major attacks since the end of the civil war 10 years ago.

  196. The Cinnamon Grand & the Shangri-La were bombed.
    FMD.. the Shangri La has only just been built.

  197. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “Please avoid propagating unverified reports and speculation. The government is taking immediate steps to contain this situation.”

    First thing I’d say too if I was in his position. Tinder boxes everywhere.

  198. stackja

    Sri Lankan tea plantations needed workers. Short term created long term?

  199. There were arrests in the UK over a week ago of Sri Lankan nationals on arrival (at Luton Airport) as they were suspected members of a proscribed organisation…they were released and we can’t see what org. they were suspected of being members of.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Is the AWFL back on?
    Early second quarter, Adelaide Throws 9 vs the Gold Coast Incompetets 2.

  201. Roger

    There were arrests in the UK over a week ago of Sri Lankan nationals on arrival (at Luton Airport) as they were suspected members of a proscribed organisation…they were released and we can’t see what org. they were suspected of being members of.

    UK has long designated the Tamil Tigers as a terrorist organisation.

  202. Roger

    Raelene Castle has reportedly decreed that Israel Folau will never play rugby in Australia again regardless of the outcome of his tribunal hearing.

    That’s going to go down well with the Polynesian rugby community.

    Has the RA Board considered who is more important to the game now and in the future, Castle or Folau?

  203. Notafan

    There’s a new group called bbs? In Sri Lanka with ties to the anti Rohingya mob in Burma.

  204. Black Ball

    Hope you all are having a great weekend. At a mate’s house drinking beer after a bowls tournament. Listening to Oasis, Champagne Supernova. Very underrated as a great band.

  205. P

    At Mass this morning all I could think of was the Israel Folau plight.
    We as Christians celebrating the Risen Christ have been reduced by RA to nothingness. Well, at least our beliefs have been. Nothingness!

  206. Notafan

    Tamil Catholics in the fishing villages in the north of Sri Lanka apparently going back all the way to St Thomas the Apostle.

    I don’t know why Tamil tigers would specifically target Christians, would have thought they had more obvious targets.

    Someone will claim responsibility.

  207. Black Ball

    P I hope you didn’t watch the sports round up on channel 9 with Peter Fitzsimmons. Blood boiling rubbish.

  208. zyconoclast

    Easter Day bombs kill 138 in attacks on Sri Lankan churches, hotels

    COLOMBO (Reuters) – Easter Day bomb blasts at three Sri Lankan churches and three luxury hotels killed 138 people and wounded more than 400, hospital and police officials said, following a lull in major attacks since the end of the civil war 10 years ago.

    Any word about the involvement of white supremacist extremist?

    ‘Unprecedented’ surge of online extremism after Christchurch

  209. I don’t know why Tamil tigers would specifically target Christians, would have thought they had more obvious targets.

    Keep in mind that half of the bombs exploded in Five-Star International Hotels.

  210. zyconoclast

    Tamil Catholics in the fishing villages in the north of Sri Lanka apparently going back all the way to St Thomas the Apostle.

    I don’t know why Tamil tigers would specifically target Christians, would have thought they had more obvious targets.

    Soft target.
    To much turning of the other cheek.
    They don’t hit back.

  211. Robber Baron

    Was just at Doncaster Shopping town. Full of Chinese and some sort of Arab (my guess is Iranian). Spotted only one weird beard. No burquas; that’s reserved for Northland.

  212. vr:

    Reports are over 129 killed in Sri Lanka. Over 400 injured. Monitoring Indian press.

    The amount of airtime devoted to the two attacks are quite different.
    Perhaps people will start to notice?

  213. Robber Baron

    Was just at Doncaster Shopping town. It is full of Chinese and some sort of Arab (my guess is Iranian). Spotted only one weird beard. No burquas: that’s reserved for Northland.

  214. Notafan

    The little point I was making is that Tamils have always had a Catholic component, I’m going to be surprised if it’s Tamil tigers, though they have been known to use suicide bombers.

    Could be a Christchurch reprisal attack, given the timing.

    bodu Bala Sena the new Buddhist extremist group

  215. Notafan

    The little point I was making is that tamils have always had a Catholic component.

    Could be a C hristchurch reprisal attack, given the timing
    bodu Bala sena

  216. Notafan

    Could be a re prisal for NZ.

    Bodu Bala sena is the name of the new group

  217. Notafan

    Okay I can’t post bbs’s title

  218. Notafan

    Could be a reprisal for C hristchurch.

    Or

    bodu Bala sena

  219. Notafan

    RB

    Lots of Iranians in Doncaster and east Doncaster.

    They have a mosque on George St.

  220. Notafan

    Sotp.

    Western target.

    Again just as likely to be reprisal for nz

  221. mh

    At least 156 people are dead in an Easter Sunday terrorist attack targeting Christians in Sri Lanka after six explosions ripped through high-end hotels and churches as suspected suicide bombers blew themselves up.

    The death toll includes 35 foreigners, as six near-simultaneous blasts injured more than 500 across the country, reports from Colombo indicate.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #2993864, posted on April 21, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Raelene Castle has reportedly decreed that Israel Folau will never play rugby in Australia again regardless of the outcome of his tribunal hearing.

    What she means is “as long as I am in charge”.
    I predict the Wabbalies will have a shit RWC and within 12 months of that, the Vicar and most of the coaching and key management staff will be gone. And it won’t just be over Folau. Rugby is hanging on by the skin of it’s teeth domestically and is overdue for a clean out.
    Eventually, an adult on the Qantas board will have a quiet fireside chat with the toxic leprechaun and explain that he needs to let go of whatever is eating him up and stop taking it out on employees of their sponsorship vehicles.

  223. Roger

    …some sort of Arab (my guess is Iranian).

    Iranians aren’t Arabs (just saying).

  224. Top Ender

    According to the Oz: “Death toll rises to 156 in Sri Lanka” with at least 35 foreigners dead.

  225. Notafan

    Indeed Roger, they’d be mighty offended.

    Always Persian, never Arab.

  226. egg_

    the sports round up on channel 9 with Peter Fitzsimmons.

    Have the knob and the scrote ever been seen in the same room together?

  227. Roger

    Rugby is hanging on by the skin of it’s teeth domestically…

    Exactly, Leigh.

    So why alienate the largest ethnic minority cohort in the game, most of whose members are like Folau fervently Christian, whose support you are going to need to rebuild the domestic game?

    Castle is, like that other NZ woman, very foolish and out of her depth.

  228. Eyrie

    “The list of belligerents in the US Revolutionary War is long and surprising.”
    I am cheered that Australia’s highest mountain is named after Tad Kosciuszko, George Washington’s military engineer and a Pole.

  229. Baldrick

    Will TheirABC broadcast The Lords Prayer in solidarity with Sri Lankan Christians?

  230. Notafan

    There was a national security alert posted in Sri Lanka 10 days ago that a group was planning to attack churches

    I give you one guess

    times of Israel article

  231. Eyrie

    I weep for Sri Lanka. Wonderful tropical island and forever in my memory, as aged 8, the first place I ever flew in an aeroplane.

  232. mh

    Greg Sheridan declared he is a Mus lim after the Christchurch attack.

    I wonder what position Sheridan will take today now that hundreds of Christians have been targeted on the holiest day of the Christian calendar.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    No burquas; that’s reserved for Northland.

    Dunno what’s worse. The shambling letter boxes or the wobbly natives in their trackies and Northland stilettos (Fluffy moccasins)

  234. Roger

    There was a national security alert posted in Sri Lanka 10 days ago that a group was planning to attack churches

    Good sleuthing, nota.

  235. Infidel Tiger

    Sounds like a multi-faith service in Sri Lanka.

    Christians praying, others detonating.

  236. Lizzie:

    First thing I’d say too if I was in his position. Tinder boxes everywhere.

    Moslam 9.7% of population.

    Islam’s Effect On Society At 5%-9%
    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
    Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%
    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections.

  237. Eyrie

    After what the Sri Lankan Army did to the die hards of the Tamil Tigers, I’d be REALLY careful not to piss them off.
    For those not up on it, backed them against the sea in a small area and artilleried the f–k out of them. I don’t think there was much prisoner taking going on.

  238. Baldrick

    SloMo condemns the Sri Lankan church bombings …

    Scott Morrison ✔ @ScottMorrisonMP
    I condemn the devastating & horrific Easter terrorist attacks on innocents in churches & hotels in Sri Lanka. I’ve been taking briefings this afternoon on the situation from DFAT.
    Our thoughts & prayers are with the beautiful people of Sri Lanka at this terrible time.

    … without mentioning any extremists, this time.

  239. Knuckle Dragger

    35 furriners brown bread.

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