Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, on CO2 alarmism

Recycling a comment from Herodotus last year.

These two interviews with Patrick Moore should be permanently available here.
He totally trashes the activists on every subject, and the takedown of CO2 alarmism in Episode 2 is comprehensive, devastating.
Episode One How radical environmentalists had to invent new issues to keep on opposing the establishment after the sensible concerns about air and water quality were successfully addressed.
Episode two

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9 Responses to Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, on CO2 alarmism

  1. stackja

    Leftists are always inventing a crisis to keep the gullible confused.

  2. Mark M

    UN climate chief warns current path leads to ‘catastrophe’

    “U.N. climate [scam] chief says world leaders must recognize there is no option except to speed-up and scale-up action to tackle global warming, warning that continuing on the current path will lead to “a catastrophe”

    “Patricia Espinosa stressed in two recent interviews with the Associated Press that climate scientists are saying there’s still a chance to make things right “but the window of opportunity is closing very soon” and the world has 12 years until carbon emissions reach “a point of no return.”

    10 years ago, Prince Charles said we had 8 years left …

    It’s all so confusing.

    It’s the worst apocalypse. Ever.

  3. Turtle of WA

    I’ve met Patrick. Good bloke.

  4. Leo G

    If the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide really is just the result of increased anthropogenic emissions in the last hundred years or so, then there is a baseline CO2 concentration for equilibrium at about 280ppm.
    Any increase in atmospheric concentration above that level will induce an “anthropogenic sequestration” at a rate that tends to be in proportion to the difference between the current CO2 level and the 280ppm baseline.
    Again assuming the assumption above is correct, all that is needed to establish a new equilibrium is to limit the annual rate of increase of anthropogenic emissions to an arbitrary linear rate.
    Accordingly, we need only restrain the rate of increase of emissions to stop the annual atmospheric concentration increase- we do not need to reduce emissions.
    The current global panic is based on a non-scientific theory which makes unjustified assumptions about the factors determining the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide.
    Whether increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide necessarily leads to increasing atmospheric temperatures is a separate question- but question immersed in the same hysteria.

  5. Destroyer D69

    From Quadrant today.. The Canadians have turned on the light in the tunnel. The last paragraphs have the lesson for Australia.
    The Lessons of Alberta and Ontario

    27th April 2019 Comments (0)

    James Allan

    Despite the massive increase in political correctness in Australia since I arrived here in 2005 there is nevertheless no doubt that we lag far behind my native Canada in the PC stakes. Okay, maybe today’s Jacinda Ardern Kiwis give the Canucks a run for their money when it comes to ‘don’t say anything, true or otherwise, that might give any group lest they be offended’. But I suspect there’s still enough South Island, sheep-farming, blunt-speaking types still around – a type I spent many enjoyable days with during my eleven years in New Zealand – that Canada would prevail in the PC Olympics.

    It’s a little surprising, therefore, to observe what is happening in Canadian politics. Only some four years ago, when Justin Trudeau (trust fund son of the former lefty Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, who managed to dodge serving in WWII) became the left-wing prime minister, the country’s provinces were almost all governed by left-wing premiers and parties. (Note: In Canada the Liberal Party is, and always has been, on the left side of politics, in some ways to the left of our Labor Party.) Out of Canada’s population of 37 million, some 33 million-odd inhabitants then lived in provinces governed by lefties. Today, not much more than a thousand days on from the mainstream media’s rapturous hysteria which greeted the victory of virtue-signalling, PC-revelling Trudeau fils, the number of those living in provinces run by the Liberals is down to under two million. The biggest province by far, Ontario, fell to a populist incarnation of the Tory Party led by Doug Ford (brother of the drug-taking Toronto mayor, the late Rob Ford). The Ontario Liberal Party was decimated, not even winning enough seats to retain official party status. Quebec also rid itself of the Libs. Last week, Prince Edward Island, the tiniest Canadian province and fictional home of Lucy Maude Montgomery’s Anne of Green Gables, tossed out the Libs in favour of a minority Conservative-Green Party grouping.

    Perhaps most instructively, the voters in the wealthy oil-producing province of Alberta on April 16 threw out a left-wing provincial government for a right-wing alternative. Alberta’s voters, who still detest the Liberal Party because of Trudeau Sr’s time in office, had opted in 2015 for an even-more-left party called the New Democratic Party, a sort of union/green conglomerate. They got over the line in 2015 because the right side of Alberta politics fractured due to the provincial Conservative Party becoming ever more touchy-feely. Think of the Black Hand faction of our very own Liberal Party and you get the idea. The NDP premier, Rachel Notley, cosied up to Trudeau Jr and played along with his carbon tax obsessions. Meanwhile Trudeau Jr. did nothing to stop the anti-oil brigade from tying up in court every attempt to build pipelines to ship out the oil on which the province’s prosperity and future depend. By the time voters threw her out, even she had turned on Trudeau. Her ‘be nice to him and he may throw Alberta some scraps’ strategy had delivered the province absolutely nothing and the electorate knew as much. Hundreds of thousands of jobs had gone and voters were very angry. When I say that, bear in mind that the desire to separate from Canada is now highest in Alberta and its neighbouring province of Saskatchewan, with some surveys putting the number who would vote to secede in those two provinces as high as 57 per cent.

    Enter Jason Kenney. He had been a cabinet minister (Treasurer in fact) in the Conservative government of Stephen Harper. After the Trudeau Jr. onslaught, Kenny went back to his native Alberta and set about trying to re-unite the right side of politics. He did so by forging a new party that is considerably more conservative than the Conservatives, but a little to the left of one or two of its warring off-shoots. Kenney’s party calls itself the United Conservatives (UCP), with Kenney becoming its leader in a run-off against a candidate even more right-wing. But don’t be misled. Kenney is very solidly right of centre. In his the recent and massive victory over Notley and the lefties who cosied up to Trudeau, the UCP leader did not hold back. Along with Ontario’s Premier Ford he vowed to challenge the Trudeau carbon tax in court, accurately depicting it as a virtue-signalling waste of money that would accomplish nothing while impoverishing Albertans. He pledged to demand a better way to equalise payments across provinces (because the current set-up always sees Quebec win at the expense of Alberta and others, much as South Australia, the Northern Territory and, incredibly, the ACT win at the expense of Western Australia). He would get those stalled pipelines built or there would be serious consequences.

    What can we learn from Canada, world capital of virtue-signalling lefty-ism? Well, we can be assured that when right-of-centre political parties take clear positions, even when opposed by virtually all of the media class, the university class and the bureaucratic class, they can not only win but win big. Here’s a motto for politicians on the Right: just come right out and say it! Renewable energy targets are massively expensive and do absolutely nothing – zero, nada, nothing – to bring down the world’s rate of temperature increase, so tell the voters exactly that. Remind them how China is firing up a new coal-energy plant every few weeks, and say that loud and clear as well. Be loud in supporting the cheapest energy source available, as are Kenney and Ford. And be clearly and explicitly against the virtue-signalling mobs on the Left. Kenney basically (and with only marginal exaggeration) described Trudeau Jr. as a stupid man with no grasp of policy. Doug Ford has been no less pointedly blunt.

    Both these politicians have wholly and completely abandoned the strategy of moving as close to the lefties as you can, then tracking them a centimetre to their right however left they then move. If you hope to win elections from ‘the centre’, you are obliged to ignore the fact that such a positioning is relative and, unless you throw out the anchor, you will continue drifting ever further to port.

    No, Jason Kenney and Doug Ford have opted for what is clearly the Donald Trump approach: give voters a clear and unmistakeable choice while highlighting the chasm between the Right side and the Left side. In Ontario it was a landslide for the Right. In Alberta it was a landslide for the Right. At the moment, at the national level in Canada, Trust Fund Trudeau and his Libs are all of a sudden behind in the polls by around six points, with an election needed by October of this year.

    And here in Australia? Sure, Scott Morrison is a massive improvement on Mr Harbourside Mansion. But then you could throw a dart at a phonebook and any name you landed upon would be a massive improvement on Malcolm. That said, the Coalition remains committed to Paris; it is neck-deep in the rent-seeking renewables scam; it does nothing about free speech, Section 18C and the scandalous harassment that saw Peter Ridd driven from James Cook University. Compare the Coalition’s policy of sitting on its hands while that legal marathon played out with Doug Ford’s approach, which is to tie university funding, in Canada a provincial matter, to free speech on campus. Oh, and don’t forget the ABC, that nest of nepotism and cronyism which continues to go unreformed even as its green-left bias becomes ever more evident and appalling, especially at election time.

    Only the awfulness of Labor and Bill Shorten policy agenda gives Team Morrison any chance of winning. But at some point that won’t be enough. That point may well be reached on May 18. The Australian Liberal Party will have no one to blame but itself.
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  6. Herodotus

    Good work Rafe.
    The MSM don’t want to publicise Moore or any other of the many scientists who dispute the dogma. Character assassination is the last ditch method when confronted with factual arguments from any authoritative scientific figure.
    The alarmists and media acolytes are still using all the discredited talking points that were highlighted and demolished in Michael Chrighton’s book State of Fear (2004), fifteen years on. Chrighton wasn’t a scientist but his knowledge of the subject matter far outstripped that of most journalists.
    Towards the end of that book there’s a geological summary that Moore might agree with.
    Sadly, MC died in 2008. His advocacy is sorely missed, but much of it is still there in print both in the book and in public addresses.

  7. Herodotus

    The earth is on its third atmosphere!
    The evolution of our atmosphere is described at a NASA sponsored education site.
    Fascinating. MC used this as well.

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