Monday Forum: May 27, 2019

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  1. Steve trickler

    A 20 min ride.

    Isle of Man TT – 2019.



  2. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #3030357, posted on May 30, 2019 at 11:55 pm

    I reckon this is how Friday nights will be if there isn’t a new thread starting at midnight.

    Dead.

    The reasoning/logic, I do not follow.
    If there is nobody to post, what difference does a new thread make?

  3. memoryvault

    If there is nobody to post, what difference does a new thread make?

    Good evening Mark.
    Simples. With the change of thread at midnight a whole heap of people – mostly blokes – sit around, waiting to vie to be first, and if not first then an early poster on the new thread. That invariably leads to conversation that kicks the whole show along for a bit.

    This is not simply opinion. A cursory glance at any Friday night will confirm the veracity of what I say.
    With no new thread there’s no reason for people to still be here waiting for it to happen.
    Then the only night there will be late night patronage is Saturday night.

  4. Rossini

    Good morning, Mark A and memoryvault nothing to read so l too am off till Tom does his magic!
    Thanks in advance Tom

  5. Zatara

    I have decided to invest in a MAGA hat to wear whilst playing golf, and to generally annoy idiots.
    Tips on the nest means to get hold of one would be appreciated.

    KD, here’s how to get an official one.

  6. Zatara

    I bought four of those MAGA hats. One to annoy people with and three to hold on to as collector items.

    Someday I’ll either be shot for possessing them or they will be extremely valuable. Maybe both.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    We badly need a new bunker tirade from Fuhrer Schorten featuring “corporate leviathans and financial behemoths”.
    Fanks in advance.

  8. Atoms for Peace

    The perfect beef sausage is cooked in a microwave. I only do it for the bagpipe sound effects.

  9. Tom

    British journalism used to stick it up the ruling class, but these days it’s the EU establishment’s lapdog in London: mention Brexit and they go feral, like The Independent’s Dave Brown (who loathes Brexiteer Boris Johnson).

  10. bespoke

    Tom
    I wouldn’t expect to much from a $400 laptop. Uninstall any bloatware(Acer has lots) then search for msconfig open the app uncheck any services you don’t need. After it restarts see if that helps but most of all stop going to porn sites.

  11. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks Tom, Zanetti’s is a pearler.

  12. Robber Baron

    I am watching tge Wiggles. The female wiggle is making breakfast for the male Wiggles. There is some hope yet for Australia.

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    Zatara, overnight;

    Greatly appreciated, that link. I’ll give the card a thrashing later today when I’m supposed to be doing something or other to make a couple of my bosses look far better than they should.

    They were warned!
    I told them!
    I said it wouldn’t work!
    I told them allllllll!
    I warned them!*

    *(h/t None)

  14. pete m

    For war buffs instapundit links to ww2 colour d day footage.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    A bit nippley in northern NSW this morning.

    Glen Innes, -9.7 degrees. Goodness gracious me.

    Lucky those punters have, for the time being, electricity.

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    Three girls, aged 10, seven and four will remain in foster care and be subject to supervised access with their mother once per year.

    Mummy dearest routinely flogged them with broomsticks, made them shower with clothes on, sent them to school without underwear, locked them outside of the house at night, forced them to find food to eat from bins and made one girl sleep in the dog kennel.

    All three girls have different fathers. The court said, on hearing an appeal from the mother for more access said her actions over time precluded any further time with the kiddies.

    Great result.

    Except that there’s a fourth, younger child. A boy.

    Evidently Mum can look after him with no problems.

    Link’s at the Currant Bun for those who can stomach it.

  17. 132andBush

    Rowe sure has a fetish for scat and naked men.

  18. stackja

    Questions raised over steel for Metro Rail Tunnel

    Union heavyweights say there is a “crisis of confidence” growing in the industry over a “dirty deal” which will see Chinese steel imported for a Melbourne project despite a local content vow from Daniel Andrews.
    Matt Johnston, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only
    |
    May 30, 2019 8:15pm

    Daniel Andrews’s local content pledge for the $11 billion Metro Rail Tunnel has been called into question after a Chinese steel deal was green lit for the West Gate Tunnel.

    Labor has promised 90 per cent Australian steel will be used on the Metro Tunnel, which will provide an alternative to the City Loop when it opens in 2025.

    But the union representing steel workers says there is now a “crisis of confidence” in the industry, after it was revealed 33,000 tonnes of steel will be imported for the WGT.

    AWU state secretary Ben Davis said the major shareholder of the company producing that steel is China Communications Construction Company — the same company that owns WGT builder John Holland.

    Mr Davis said it was a case of John Holland doing a “dirty deal” with its own parent company and the Andrews Government should be “embarrassed”.

    “What’s the point of local content promises and commercial undertakings if principle contractors like John Holland can just thumb their noses at obligations and the government just rolls over?” he said.

  19. Twostix

    Australia did have slavery and it had nothing to do with abos.

    Shoplifting something when you were 16 got you seven years of slavery on a retired empire major’s frontier colonial estate where you and thirty others were whipped and worked sun up to sun down six days a week for his profit.

    That was of course better than ending up a slave in Newcastle’s coal mines.

    This country was built on white slavery from 1788-~1830, the slaves were the poor white classes, the slavers were the imperial globalists of their day who would put orders into the british establishment which they entirely controlled for the kind and quality of slaves they needed for their colonial enterprises (poor farm labourers and skilled people with trivial offences first thanks).

    As the convict slave trade was suppressed they used their total control of the british establishment to pass the Masters and Servants act which here meant:

    , employees in Australia who left their employment without permission were subject to being hunted down under the Bushrangers Act.

    Absence from place of work was punishable by imprisonment of up to three months with or without hard labour

    This was used by the British blimps to enslave native free born Aussies, our true forefather currency lads and lasses, for the next 60 years.

    Abos had absolutetly nothing to do with any of this.

  20. calli

    British journalism used to stick it up the ruling class

    Until they became part of it.

  21. Twostix

    Also regarding the Master and Servant Act:

    Absence from place of work was punishable by imprisonment of up to three months with or without hard labour

    It’s a little less hard to see where the anglosphere’s socialist revolts of the early 20th century came from. Malignant greedy 19th century globalist Capitalists created them!

  22. calli

    Thanks, ‘stix. The reality of a penal colony.

    Mine – poaching to feed empty bellies and pinching linen to sell for same. They might as easily been hanging from gallows but they had skills that would be useful. All shipped to Sydney Town, then salted through the south coast.

    I once stood in a cellar of a very old house down in Mittagong which was used to house convicts overnight on their journey south and wondered if one of mine had stood there before me.

    Once they obtained their Ticket of Leave, the world was their oyster. Fortunes made and lost, they were the family’s Dark Secret until the eighties, when suddenly everyone wanted to know and remember them.

  23. calli

    Shorten is being lampooned on Seven over his silly, bitter speech.

    It’s true – a week is a long time in politics.

  24. Farmer Gez

    Thanks, ‘stix. The reality of a penal colony.

    Great great grandma was sent out for murder.
    Top that!

  25. Leigh Lowe

    Shorten is being lampooned on Seven over his silly, bitter speech.

    Ha, ha.
    Still going with that low energy downward inflection at the end of each sentence where he tells of his defeat at the hands of “dark forces”.
    Taking full responsibility … not.
    Gracious in defeat … not.
    Nein reporting that the Knifeman Cometh (for the third time).
    Less than two weeks in and he is agitating to get himself in the big chair again.

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    The Masters and Servants Acts, replicated in most other colonial countries at about the same time were in fact a vast improvement on the unregulated free for all that existed beforehand.

    Prior to that, you could do whatever you wanted with your slaves, whether it be in the British, German, French, Italian or Dutch colonies. And it was worse again in any Asian country.

    If your houseboy over or undercooked your morning boiled egg, you could cut his throat in front of his family and there’d be absolutely no recourse.

    For every worker that died building the Notre Dame Cathedral, hundreds if thousands did the same in paddy fields, building Chinese dams or the Pyramids.

    The 1848 revolutions started in France and independently spread to over 50 countries from Sweden to Brazil.

    But ignore all that. Bastard British blimps are bad. The only capitalist country ever.

  27. MatrixTransform

    Defender is the least intrusive.

    that’s because it doesnt do much.
    We run WebRoot or Sophos.
    Both products follow new executables around with rat-shot and if they misbehave, theyre dead.
    I believe WebRoot even rolls back malicious changes that were made before the lynching

    Personally been running Webroot on all home computers (McComputers too) and on maybe 50ish permanently web connected industrial computers/webServers.
    Near zero problems.

    The Industrial ones are behind a dedicated Sophos firewall though.
    A normal sophos log file would scare the bejesus out of you.
    The number attacks from absolutely nowhere on a daily basis is staggering.

    My recommendation is never rely on in-built ‘protection’

    Both Webroot and Sophos are only like $35 per year

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    *hundreds if not thousands*

    Need more practice typing through cigarette smoke.

  29. Notafan

    It’s the point KD that Aborigines still want to dine out on bad treatment by colonialists when convicts copped far worse?

    How many Aborigines got 1000 lashes?

  30. calli

    Armytage was laughing at the ABC’s election coverage and how the commentators couldn’t bring themselves to admit defeat. And Nine/Fairfax bias to Labor. And GetUp! Dark Forces indeed.

    Needless to say, Koch is not at the office today, so commentary takes an ever so gentle tilt to the right. Barr is there, of course, for “balance”. 🙂

  31. Top Ender

    The story of Sydney and Kormoran is a fascinating one, Zulu.

    The idiotic stories of Japanese submarines and so on have faded off into obscurity along with their authors.

  32. memoryvault

    Good morning Twostix.

    Thank you for that interesting info on the early Australian slave trade. I knew about the convict class (it was part of history lessons when I was in primary school), but I had not heard of the Masters and Servants Act before.

    But it comes as no surprise. Apparently the slave trade in America started out the same way – mostly Irish. It only became predominantly black Africans when the English started to run out of Irish. Quite apart from the problems with supply it was rather quickly discovered that the Africans made better slaves – more submissive and not rebellious like the Irish.

  33. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We are in an airport hotel (king size bed, airport view) ready to fly out to China today. Last night we went down to the dining room for dinner and as it was cold I wrapped my shoulders in a deliciously warm and soft Burberry stole I sometimes wear around the house. Burberry are a fashion brand known for their big check squares. You’re not going down to dinner wearing a blanket? asked Hairy incredulously. Surely you’d prefer to wear a jacket? he adds anxiously, seeing my face. I reassure him that my stole is perfectly acceptable in public.

    We have been married for a long time now. Those who read Quadrant this month may gather that I grew up in Mt Druitt so very many years ago that I must be, as Grigs who intently follows my life twigged recently, somewhat older than many give me years for. Cats who know me IRL know the full story. I admit to dissembling here about that to protect Hairy’s privacy, less necessary now that he is retired. I was not expecting to see my piece ‘On Becoming Elizabeth’ published, so I was thrilled that once more the editors have given me a go.

    Well, I have always looked young for my age. 🙂

  34. Notafan

    There’s a little booklet, much republished that recorded the convictions of many of the inhabitants of Port Arthur, many of whom were hardened criminals convicted of serious crimes.

    Early Irish convicts were political prisoners iirc.

    Then came the petty offenders escaping the Irish famine by deliberately committing offences to get out of Ireland.

    My Irish forbears came out under a 1830s farmer scheme to Van Diemen’s land and had four convicts assigned to them, a vast step up from 2 acres of rented land in Ireland.

    Like Calli, a fortune was made and all lost again in the 1870s.

  35. stackja

    WarnerMedia, Disney Join Netflix in Threatening to Leave Georgia
    By Anousha Sakoui , Lucas Shaw , and Christopher Palmeri
    May 30, 2019, 12:26 PM GMT+10 Updated on May 31, 2019, 6:46 AM GMT+10

    AT&T Inc.’s WarnerMedia, Comcast Corp.’s NBCUniversal and Walt Disney Co. are following Netflix Inc.’s lead in threatening to leave Georgia if a controversial anti-abortion law takes effect.

    WarnerMedia — owner of HBO, CNN and the Warner Bros. studio — said on Thursday that it will “reconsider Georgia as the home to any new productions” if the restrictions become law. That echoed remarks made by Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger on Wednesday. He told Reuters it would be “very difficult” to keep film production in the state if abortion ban is upheld.

  36. Farmer Gez

    Kieran Gilbert interviews a blonde bubble head from CNN who declares that Trump’s statement that he was cleared of allegations is FALSE.
    How about that?
    She seems to think that there can be a legal state of Not Innocent.

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    The Australian indigine would today be looking out at the world through a glass case in a museum somewhere if the Dutch or Spanish had got here first. As it was two French ships got to Port Jackson only two weeks after Arty Philip touched down in 1788, were given a bit of water then told to piss off.

    Apparently my crew escaped the Emerald Isle’s spud famine, but you don’t see me blaming the ‘butcher’s apron’ for it. Try blaming Edward II for the Great Famine of 1315-17 and see how far you get.

  38. Tintarella di Luna

    I hope you and Hairy have a great trip and yes IRL you are quite the pistolette looking forward to a catch-up a Cat catch-up on your return 😎

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think the mention I make of the dreaded girls’ home (Parramatta Girls Home), long closed, is the giveaway. Plus Wattle Grove Farm Guest House, where I got casual work, bringing in city people for a country retreat, is not what is done in Sydney’s west these days.

  40. Ellie

    Well, I have always looked young for my age.

    Lizzie, I have it on good authority that you are HOT!
    Work it, girlfriend!

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    Lizzie darling, you and Hairy take care and have a fabulous time. Catch up when you are back.

    And yes, Lizzie is fabulous!

  42. Tintarella di Luna

    Once they obtained their Ticket of Leave, the world was their oyster. Fortunes made and lost, they were the family’s Dark Secret until the eighties, when suddenly everyone wanted to know and remember them.

    Professor Geoffrey Blainey wrote a luscious history of Australia I think from late 1800s to just before the commencement of WWI wonderful read

  43. Farmer Gez

    My Irish forbears came out under a 1830s farmer scheme to Van Diemen’s land and had four convicts assigned to them, a vast step up from 2 acres of rented land in Ireland.

    Were they the Proddie Planter type of Irish?

  44. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #3030435, posted on May 31, 2019 at 7:50 am
    I hope you and Hairy have a great trip and yes IRL you are quite the pistolette looking forward to a catch-up a Cat catch-up on your return 😎”

    We need another Cat catch-up. Tinta, I haven’t seen you for ages.

  45. Twostix

    The Masters and Servants Acts, replicated in most other colonial countries at about the same time were in fact a vast improvement on the unregulated free for all that existed beforehand

    The Master and Servant Act in Australia was used to enslave and imprison free born currency lads and lass’s.

    The worst example I know of was Major Elrington of Braidwood (also a magistrate as most colonial blimps were) sentencing a young girl, a free born housemaid, to three months prison for leaving her job after her “employer” (a fellow colonial blimp and maaate of his from the district) shaved her head.

    Absolute scumbags.

  46. Tintarella di Luna

    Black Kettle and Full Moon

  47. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh come on, TE.

    I for one enjoyed the tales of thousands of Japanese subs beached at low tide, and who were all personally seen off by my old Uncle Morrie and his stock horse. Who, by the way was the first blackfella to ever be allowed in the green room at the old Hotel Darwin.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    We need another Cat catch-up. Tinta, I haven’t seen you for ages.

    I miss our get togethers -it’s been a very trying time these last few months both for the Sunbather and our Big Boy working on solutions which take time Hope springs eternal 🙂

  49. memoryvault

    Good morning Elle.

    Now that I am single once more, and since I don’t go out, in my overactive mind’s eye all the Lady Cats are HOT!

  50. Old School Conservative

    Glen Innes, -9.7 degrees. Goodness gracious me.

    And some snow in Jindabyne.

  51. Notafan

    No Farmer Gez. Poor Catholics who came off a two acre potato farm.

    I was surprised but they on the 1840 census and Van Diemen’s land being a small place get a few mention in various newspapers of the time.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Potato famine?
    What’s the big deal?
    Just eat sausages.

  53. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3030353, posted on May 30, 2019 at 11:42 pm

    Thank you. Just ordered a copy.

  54. Leigh Lowe

    I am quite keen to keep this Master and Servants Act out of Mrs L’s hands.

  55. Cassie of Sydney

    “memoryvault
    #3030448, posted on May 31, 2019 at 8:02 am
    Good morning Elle.

    Now that I am single once more, and since I don’t go out, in my overactive mind’s eye all the Lady Cats are HOT!”

    We are hot MV…very hot.

  56. John Constantine

    Wagga lambs to 337 bucks.

    The protein crunch yet to hit, as the wave of pigs with pig plague still being pushed into human consumption to spread the infection worldwide.

    Once the one off supply from plague pigs ends, there won’t be anything in the supply chain behind it.

  57. calli

    Bon Voyage, Lizzie. I notice the fellas don’t need to wear dinner suits in the dining room any more, thank goodness. The Beloved is having his Good Dark Suit dry cleaned in preparation. 🙂

    He will scrub up well, and I have him on a crash diet to help with button “ease”, strained by too much good tucker in Bali. Fortunately, men seem able to drop their waist size at will with a bit of food discipline. It’s so much more difficult for the ladies.

    Enjoy Shanghai and the Bund. And buy up big on silk. You can never have too much silk.

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    Now that I am single once more, and since I don’t go out, in my overactive mind’s eye all the Lady Cats are HOT!

    Not me memoryvault I’m just burnt out

  59. Farmer Gez

    No Farmer Gez. Poor Catholics who came off a two acre potato farm.

    I was surprised but they on the 1840 census and Van Diemen’s land being a small place get a few mention in various newspapers of the time.

    That’s very rare Nota.
    They must have been of very good character. Mine were too dodgy.

  60. Notafan

    Great great grandfather went bankrupt in the 1870s. One day I’ll go to Tasmania and see if I can find more information, still not sure exactly when they arrived.

    immigration to Tasmania, wealthy types encouraged.

  61. memoryvault

    Cassie, now you’re being a tease.
    I love it.

  62. Steve Trickler:
    The IoM circuit.
    Mad bastards.
    I notice the power band on the tacho was somewhere between 13750 and 14250 rpm.
    Probably easier to just have an on/off switch.

  63. memoryvault

    Tinta,
    Not in my mind’s eye you’re not.
    Trust me on this.

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks, Tinta. I think you and I make a fine pair too (a veritable pocket rocket), and Cassie I am keeping safe your big tupperware cake holder in which you brought to us on election night the very finest traditional Joosh cake made with your own fair hand. Kudos!

  65. calli

    I look like Raquel Welch.

    Everyone knows this. 🤣

  66. stackja

    Defqon.1 music festival cancelled after organisers fail to find venue

    Organisers of a Sydney music festival that last year saw two young people die from drugs has been cancelled because they cannot find a venue.
    Danielle Gusmaroli, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    May 30, 2019 8:17pm

    DEFQON.1 hard core dance festival has been indefinitely postponed in Sydney after NSW Government deemed the Sydney International Regatta Centre unsuitable to host the event.

    Festival organisers quietly announced the music festival would not be hosted this year after struggling to find venues in a message to fans on Facebook.

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tinta, it is Hairy who calls you the pocket rocket. You are one sassy lassie. We all have our moments of burn-out. You should see the state of my fingernails lately. I will find a manicurist in Shanghai no doubt though. Very restorative, it will be.

  68. Mother Lode

    British journalism used to stick it up the ruling class, but these days it’s the EU establishment’s lapdog in London

    I suspect the problem is that the cartoonist sub-subculture shifted aim without shifting target.

    In years past the establishment was the people with the titles, big business types and other people who were attached to the idea of Britain as unique, special, and theirs.

    And cartoonists would lampoon them with delight. But at some point they changed from mocking the establishment and aimed instead at the titles, businesses and patriotic Brits without the lights even flickering. No one noticed since the output was exactly the same.

    Then the old establishment was pushed out of the limelight by a newer elite, a political one of which only a few were politicians.

    But the cartoonists’ scopes kept their cross-hairs on the old establishment, leaving the new one untouched.

    It is akin to the mistake of learning that 2+2 equals 4, so every some equals 4. Easy, always gives you the answer, and as long as you find other people making the same mistake it is ‘commonsense’.

    And why not? It has been a century since the old establishment did things like rough you up in the street, or print their own scandalous innuendo in pamphlets. Or Lord Caesterhamfolkshire threatened to haul them before the courts.

    While the new elite were always poised to threaten people who spoke out of turn. And much more – to dox them, destroy their property, file false police reports, threaten their families, attack them in the streets and in the media, get them fired or indeed imprisoned.

    An unpleasant choice, but one made easier by the rest of the group choosing safety, and to again quote a line from Auden which seems to be apposite with dispiriting frequency:

    Because the Adversary put too easy questions
    On lonely roads.

  69. memoryvault

    I have always imagined you more along the lines of Bridget Bardot, Calli.
    And not being a boob man I think I’ll stick with that.

  70. calli

    Michelle Grattan fantasises about the Labor defeat and reminisces about the earlier one.

    The ALP wrested Longman from the Liberals’ Wyatt Roy in the election in which Bill Shorten became a Labor hero by bringing Malcolm Turnbull within a whisker of defeat.

    Shorten did no such thing. Turnbull did it all by himself.

    This type of silly urging is how weak non-performers get puffed up by the media. And then they wonder what hit them when reality strikes.

  71. lotocoti

    and who were all personally seen off by my old Uncle Morrie and his stock horse

    Weren’t said Nipponese Marines trampled to death by vast herds of stampeding cattle?

  72. stackja

    World’s smallest’ surviving premature baby released from US hospital

    A baby born weighing just 245g (8.6oz), believed to be the tiniest on record to survive premature birth, has been discharged from hospital in the US.

    Baby Saybie weighed the same as a large apple when she was born at 23 weeks and three days in December 2018.

    Fighting for life, she was transferred to the intensive care unit at Sharp Mary Birch Hospital in San Diego, California.

    Doctors told Saybie’s parents she had just hours to live.

    But five months on, she was discharged weighing a healthy 5.6 pounds (2.5kg), confounding all expectations.

  73. Nob

    MotherLode, short version:
    The rebels became the establishment.

  74. Mother Lode

    so every some sum equals 4

    I blame auto-correct.

    With absolutely no justification.

  75. Entropy

    lotocoti
    #3030474, posted on May 31, 2019 at 8:32 am
    and who were all personally seen off by my old Uncle Morrie and his stock horse

    Weren’t said Nipponese Marines trampled to death by vast herds of stampeding cattle?

    I believe they were Peppin merinos. From the Hay plain.

  76. Mother Lode

    The rebels became the establishment.

    Being in the current establishment is to be kept warm, secure, reassured, and loved.

    This is behind those ‘too easy questions’.

    Unless you pay enough attention to notice how swiftly it will turn on its own. And with what savagery.

  77. Dr Faustus

    In ‘No, Surely Not?’ news:

    Bill Shorten may not have abandoned his leadership ambitions

    Several allies of Mr Shorten told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age on Thursday that the former union leader told them he has not abandoned the idea of regaining the Labor leadership despite being rejected by voters at the ballot box at two consecutive national elections.

    A spokesman for Mr Shorten said the claim was “bullshit”.

    Yes. Yes it is.
    But great fun…

  78. stackja

    Hundreds in shelters as record flooding hits Arkansas River

    Temporary shelters were housing hundreds of people on Thursday following evacuations along the swollen Arkansas River, where officials kept a close eye on an aging levee system facing enormous pressure from enduring floodwaters.

  79. stackja

    Japanese Midget Submarine Attack on Sydney Harbour

    Imperial Japanese Navy Midget Submarine Attack on Sydney Harbour, 31 May-1 June 1942
    On 29 May 1942 five large Japanese I-class submarines rendezvoused some 35 nautical miles northeast of the entrance to Sydney Harbour. Before daylight the next morning an E14Y Glen float plane launched from one of the submarines, I-21, and crewed by Warrant Flying officer Susumo Ito and Ordinary Seaman Iwasaki, flew a daring reconnaissance mission over the harbour, twice circling the cruiser USS Chicago before flying off to the east.

    The aerial intrusion was observed and reported but it did not initiate any special harbour defensive measures being implemented. Many mistakenly believed it an American floatplane conducting a routine training flight. For the Japanese raiders, it was the latest of a number of reconnaissance flights conducted over Sydney providing valuable intelligence for an impending surprise attack on the numerous Allied warships anchored peacefully in the harbour. Prime targets included the cruisers HMAS Canberra and USS Chicago.

  80. stackja

    Dr Faustus
    #3030482, posted on May 31, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Kev came back. BS? Albo loses NewPolls?

  81. thefrolickingmole

    Potato famine?
    What’s the big deal?
    Just eat sausages.

    Will riverdance…

  82. OK girls.
    It’s not up to you to decide who is the most attractive. It’s up to us. That’s a blokes job.
    The Catallaxy Sheila Score Board is a non profit organisation that takes photos of select ladies and decides levels of attract.
    The Panel, made up of several males who, by making a small donation to The Winston Foundation, can become accredited CSSB Judges.
    In the event of a tie, I, being Top Judge & Connoisseur of fine ladies, will have the deciding vote.
    Please post links to bikini photos – no larger than 20 megabyte/no smaller than 5 megabyte to the open forum.
    Tasteful poses please, ladies.
    (As I told one of my many wives who was a little distressed after finding stretch marks after our children – “Men get medals for bravery, Ladies get stretch marks.”)

  83. thefrolickingmole

    Weren’t said Nipponese Marines trampled to death by vast herds of stampeding cattle?

    Thats so close to the ending of the crap movie “Austalia” its not funny.

    Excluding the intercontinental ballistic spear throw that gets the baddie in the end.

  84. Arky

    Bring back indentured servitude.
    All these people winging about the treatment of their forebears. Irishmen and various crims.
    Get over it. You were the spoils of war. If you wanted better treatment you needed to win the war.

  85. Boambee John

    Mother Lode
    #3030479, posted on May 31, 2019 at 8:37 am
    The rebels became the establishment.

    Being in the current establishment is to be kept warm, secure, reassured, and loved.

    This is behind those ‘too easy questions’.

    Unless you pay enough attention to notice how swiftly it will turn on its own. And with what savagery.

    About a year ago, m0nty tried to push the line that the left are now the true conservatives, protecting the institutions that they now dominate.

    He wasn’t keen on being told that he was now the fascist lackey of the establishment, and we had become the romantic rebels against the cruel ruling class that he was defending.

  86. mh

    Glen Innes, -9.7 degrees. Goodness gracious me.

    And some snow in Jindabyne.

    Al Gore approacheth.

    ❄️🥶❄️🥶❄️

  87. memoryvault

    It’s not up to you to decide who is the most attractive. It’s up to us. That’s a blokes job.

    Sorry Winston, but that won’t work. A woman’s “attractiveness” is far more complex than mere good looks. I’m guessing it’s much the same for the ladies. I’ve known some gorgeous women who were real bitches, and others who were fun but as thick as two short planks. I’ve also known woman who were quite plain looking but nonetheless highly attractive because of their personality and intelligence.

    It works both ways. The most stunningly beautiful young woman I ever knew was also one of the most brilliant I have ever worked with. I was 50 and she was 19. A decade earlier I worked with another brilliant young woman who was also great fun to be with. Her head and face were so hideously deformed most people couldn’t look at her without being embarrassed.

  88. Andreas

    @realDonaldTrump
    2 minutes ago
    On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied,at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the White House to follow.

  89. C.L.

    British journalism used to stick it up the ruling class, but these days it’s the EU establishment’s lapdog in London.

    That’s true of journalism everywhere in the contemporary Western world.
    If you want to see the purest exemplar of the phenomenon (for mine), watch an episode of The Project. The giddy bonhomie and pious solemnity as Waleed and his harem nod sanctimoniously or laugh with that in-joke moral certainty as they assiduously protect all the taboos and strictures of the modern leftist culture-state.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    @realDonaldTrump
    2 minutes ago
    On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied,at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the White House to follow.

    Great policy. But the tariffs should not be removed until Mexico has paid for the wall, and the cost of the illegal immigration is recovered.

  91. Roger

    That’s true of journalism everywhere in the contemporary Western world.

    Just about every profession is perfidious these days.

    Lawyers have assiduously been writing treatises arguing that state agreements with indigenous folk are “treaties” that should be registered with the UN, thereby ceding aspects of sovereignty to the International Court of Justice in The Hague.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    Jason Hickel
    @jasonhickel
    This is huge. Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being. #postgrowth

    We need to close our border to these lunatics.

  93. C.L.

    Speaking of sanctimony and the pious leftist culture-state …
    Lead ‘story’ at ABC Online just now:

    Smoking rates have dropped massively since the 70s — down from 40 per cent to only 14 per cent — but some areas of the country are not getting the message.

    These pagan hold-outs are then named and shamed:

    Suburbs with the worst smoking rates in Australia revealed.

    It’s the disobedience that really irks them.

  94. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    . I’ve also known woman who were quite plain looking but nonetheless highly attractive because of their personality and intelligence.

    bzzzzt. wrongthink

  95. C.L.

    Jason Hickel
    @jasonhickel
    This is huge. Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being. #postgrowth

    Leaving aside the questionable claim that New Zealand is a “major country,” Kiwis are about to find out the hard way the effect large-scale socialism has on well-being. When disaster comes – and it will come – ardent Ardernists will deny it and argue that what’s needed is greater financial commitment to the cause. We’ve seen it all before; the script never changes.

  96. Roger

    Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being.

    “Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions.”

    T. S. Eliot

  97. twostix

    British journalism used to stick it up the ruling class,

    They did last century for sure, but we could say that was because ‘journalists’ were mostly woke middle class communists who wanted to take power from the remnants of the old traditionalist ruling class. Which they did.

    Now we’re shackled with their retarded children and their victory-lap shows like The Project. And as usual the battle is on for the ruling class to protect their place. Starting with ever strident and lunatic loyalty tests (say men can be married, becomes say boys are the same as girls, becomes say boys can be girls), social shaming, bizarre social mores, censorship and outright prison time for their ideological opponents.

    Who will win? Nothing is certain, but given that this establishment is literally the most soy poisoned and retarded ever, and one of the requirements to be inside it is to not want to have children, demographically we have already.

    Which brings us to their third world mass immigration dogma…

  98. Bruce of Newcastle

    This is huge. Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being. #postgrowth

    I’d like Ms Ardern to give us a list of all the socialist countries which have increased the well-being of their inhabitants.

    Ok, in anticipation of her failing to do so I will provide one. Here it is:

  99. twostix

    This is huge. Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being. #postgrowth

    Are they abandoning the immigration ponzi scheme?

  100. Roger

    Which brings us to their third world mass immigration dogma…

    Which seems not to be working as planned, with third worlders proving themselves to be rather recalcitrant at adopting “Labor values” like sodomy and gender bending.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m not a saviour of my people, says Wyatt

    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter
    12:00AM May 31, 2019
    4 Comments

    Ken Wyatt has described as “not governme­nt policy” a leaked draft plan to create a “Makarrata Commission” of elected elders with far-reaching decision-making powers.

    Mr Wyatt handed Scott Morrison the proposal in the months leading up to his appointment this week as Australia’s first Aboriginal Minister for Indigenous Affairs.

    The plan, which Mr Wyatt said yesterday “is not government policy­”, was a draft attempt by the then aged care minister to find a way around the stalemate over constitutional recognition sought by signatories to the Uluru Statement from the Heart

    That statement called for a First Nation­s voice in the Constitution and a “Makarrata Com­mission” to supervise a process of agreement-making between government and indigenous peoples.

    The Prime Minister’s predeces­sor, Malcolm Turnbull, had dismissed the idea of the “voice”, saying it would amount to a third chamber of parliament.

    Mr Morrison has committed to “getting an outcome” on constitutional recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, although he has not put a time­frame on it.

    Mr Wyatt, who chaired a joint select committee on constit­utional recognition, sent the draft plan to Mr Morrison on February 14. He said his blueprint “(gives) an overview of a potential way forward to address the issue of constitutional recognition”, according to a report in Brisbane’s The Courier-Mail.

    The plan, leaked the day after he was sworn, is likely to be seen as pre-empting the broad consult­ation with indigenous leaders that was promised by the government.

    The promise includes a $7.3 mil­lion budget allocation to consult widely on the co-design of a “voice to the commonwealth parliament”.

    It will also raise questions about whether Mr Wyatt’s proposal for an elected elders’ commission would roughly equate to a powerful “third chamber” of parliament, of the kind that was rejected ­previously by the Coalition. The leaked draft plan proposes a ­Makarrata Commission consisting of a chair and nine elected members from each state, who would provide input into a broad range of policies directly affecting indigenous Australians, including employment, justice, health, ­education, child safety and native title.

    From the Oz.

  102. memoryvault

    To each his own, Zippy.

    I have commented before on the high regard I hold most of the Lady Cats in, and my view that generally they are a cut above the blokes here. There is however one Lady Cat I hold in very high esteem – I find her wit and intelligence – and above all her droll sense of humour – absolutely captivating.

    In fact if I were single – which emotionally I’m not, and she was single – which she’s not – Id have probably asked her out by now. Or at least tried to – I’m hopelessly shy when it comes to such things.

    I have no idea what she actually looks like, and don’t really care.

  103. mh

    Cue libertarians…. Tariffs are self harm.

  104. Infidel Tiger

    I have commented before on the high regard I hold most of the Lady Cats in, and my view that generally they are a cut above the blokes here. There is however one Lady Cat I hold in very high esteem – I find her wit and intelligence – and above all her droll sense of humour – absolutely captivating.

    Monty is married.

  105. Roger

    Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being.

    Shorter Ardern:

    Children are starving in NZ; I propose that we make the pie smaller.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    The ALP must be so envious.

    Norks have executed top officials over collapse of talks with US.

  107. twostix

    Figures released today by Victoria University think-tank the Mitchell Institute reveal smoking rates there, and in neighbouring suburb Gagebrook, are at levels not seen in Australia since the 1970s.

    Mr Harris said local factors influenced smoking statistics.

    “We know where we live, where we work, when we left school and who we know influences smoking,” he said.

    Look, the working classes really are going to have to learn to smarten up and start lying to university ‘researchers’ and ‘polling companies’ a lot more, if they wish to continue to have things they like.

  108. Geriatric Mayfly

    When disaster comes – and it will come – ardent Ardernists will deny it and argue that what’s needed is greater financial commitment to the cause. We’ve seen it all before; the script never changes.

    They always have another ruse as well. If the journey to the sunlit uplands falls over, then it was entrusted to the wrong revolutionaries. It will definitely work better next time with ———– insert ideologue here.

  109. mh

    I have commented before on the high regard I hold most of the Lady Cats in, and my view that generally they are a cut above the blokes here. There is however one Lady Cat I hold in very high esteem – I find her wit and intelligence – and above all her droll sense of humour – absolutely captivating.

    Armadillo is a fella, mv.

  110. Mother Lode

    This is huge. Jacinda Ardern’s New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being.

    So government has gone from seeing itself as the owner of the economy to also being responsible for dispensing well-being.

    They have then, in their wisdom, decided that one is achieved at the expense of the other – another zero-sum.

    What colossi they must be!

    Isn’t it amazing how the brightest and most talented people in a nation always take up careers as politicians and public servants?

  111. memoryvault

    Poor choice MH.
    Armadillo is on my hit list.
    The temporary hostile truce I agreed to at Sinc’s request precludes me from saying anything else.

  112. twostix

    Arden’s government like Gillard’s is not elected and like Gillard’s has no mandate to do anything other than maintain the machinery of state until an actual elected leader arrives.

    It’s interesting how we always seem to have these coincidences that favour the revolutionairy left though isn’t it? Arden and Gillard, both instruments of revolution, both unelected, both put in place by men both immediately set about fundamentally changing the country.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    Bruce,

    You forgot to attach that list.

    Oh.

  114. stackja

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    May 30, 2019

    ** Statement from the President Regarding Emergency Measures to Address the Border Crisis

    ————————————————————

    ** As everyone knows, the United States of America has been invaded by hundreds of thousands of people coming through Mexico and entering our country illegally. This sustained influx of illegal aliens has profound consequences on every aspect of our national life—overwhelming our schools, overcrowding our hospitals, draining our welfare system, and causing untold amounts of crime. Gang members, smugglers, human traffickers, and illegal drugs and narcotics of all kinds are pouring across the Southern Border and directly into our communities. Thousands of innocent lives are taken every year as a result of this lawless chaos. It must end NOW!

    Mexico’s passive cooperation in allowing this mass incursion constitutes an emergency and extraordinary threat to the national security and economy of the United States. Mexico has very strong immigration laws and could easily halt the illegal flow of migrants, including by returning them to their home countries. Additionally, Mexico could quickly and easily stop illegal aliens from coming through its southern border with Guatemala.

    For decades, the United States has suffered the severe and dangerous consequences of illegal immigration. Sadly, Mexico has allowed this situation to go on for many years, growing only worse with the passage of time. From a safety, national security, military, economic, and humanitarian standpoint, we cannot allow this grave disaster to continue. The current state of affairs is profoundly unfair to the American taxpayer, who bears the extraordinary financial cost imposed by large-scale illegal migration. Even worse is the terrible and preventable loss of human life. Some of the most deadly and vicious gangs on the planet operate just across our border and terrorize innocent communities.

    Mexico must step up and help solve this problem. We welcome people who come to the United States legally, but we cannot allow our laws to be broken and our borders to be violated. For years, Mexico has not treated us fairly—but we are now asserting our rights as a sovereign Nation.

    To address the emergency at the Southern Border, I am invoking the authorities granted to me by the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Accordingly, starting on June 10, 2019, the United States will impose a 5 percent Tariff on all goods imported from Mexico. If the illegal migration crisis is alleviated through effective actions taken by Mexico, to be determined in our sole discretion and judgment, the Tariffs will be removed. If the crisis persists, however, the Tariffs will be raised to 10 percent on July 1, 2019. Similarly, if Mexico still has not taken action to dramatically reduce or eliminate the number of illegal aliens crossing its territory into the United States, Tariffs will be increased to 15 percent on August 1, 2019, to 20 percent on September 1, 2019, and to 25 percent on October 1, 2019. Tariffs will permanently remain at the 25 percent level unless and until Mexico substantially stops the illegal inflow of aliens coming through its territory. Workers who
    come to our country through the legal admissions process, including those working on farms, ranches, and in other businesses, will be allowed easy passage.

    If Mexico fails to act, Tariffs will remain at the high level, and companies located in Mexico may start moving back to the United States to make their products and goods. Companies that relocate to the United States will not pay the Tariffs or be affected in any way.

    Over the years, Mexico has made massive amounts of money in its dealings with the United States, and this includes the tremendous number of jobs leaving our country.

    Should Mexico choose not to cooperate on reducing unlawful migration, the sustained imposition of Tariffs will produce a massive return of jobs back to American cities and towns. Remember, our great country has been the “piggy bank” from which everybody wants only to TAKE. The difference is that now we are firmly and forcefully standing up for America’s interests.

    We have confidence that Mexico can and will act swiftly to help the United States stop this long-term, dangerous, and deeply unfair problem. The United States has been very good to Mexico for many years. We are now asking that Mexico immediately do its fair share to stop the use of its territory as a conduit for illegal immigration into our country.

    The cartels and coyotes are having a greater and greater impact on the Mexican side of our Southern Border. This is a dire threat that must be decisively eliminated. Billions of dollars are made, and countless lives are ruined, by these ruthless and merciless criminal organizations. Mexico must bring law and order to its side of the border.

    Democrats in Congress are fully aware of this horrible situation and yet refuse to help in any way, shape, or form. This is a total dereliction of duty. The migrant crisis is a calamity that must now be solved—and can easily be solved—in Congress. Our broken asylum laws, court system, catch-and-release, visa lottery, chain migration, and many other loopholes can all be promptly corrected. When that happens, the measures being announced today can be more readily reduced or removed.

    The United States is a great country that can no longer be exploited due to its foolish and irresponsible immigration laws. For the sake of our people, and for the sake of our future, these horrendous laws must be changed now.

    At the same time, Mexico cannot allow hundreds of thousands of people to pour over its land and into our country—violating the sovereign territory of the United States. If Mexico does not take decisive measures, it will come at a significant price.

    We therefore look forward to, and appreciate, the swift and effective actions that we hope Mexico will immediately install.

    As President of the United States, my highest duty is the defense of the country and its citizens. A nation without borders is not a nation at all. I will not stand by and allow our sovereignty to be eroded, our laws to be trampled, or our borders to be disrespected anymore.

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    Can’t find a single thing wrong with DJT’s statement.

  116. Mother Lode

    That statement called for a First Nation­s voice

    In order to have first nations there must be subsequent nations of comparable type – they have to have much in common for the distinction to take place: It makes sense to compare a Cabernet and Shiraz, but not Cabernet and a car – you would have to create very special context treating them not as Cabernet or car, but on some other commonality such as commodity.

    Nomadic Aboriginal bands and modern Australia comparable as nations?

    There are a lot of people out there bewitched by language. They are the ones the spin merchants aim for.

    I can’t remember a time when spin was for the benefit of those spun.

  117. Shy Ted

    twostix #3030530, posted on May 31, 2019 at 10:03 am
    I heard the interview, twostix. Unbelievable (not) that these out of touch dogooders don’t see themselves as sinister. Closer to home they talked about Elizabeth, N Adelaide. I do hope the researchers get out there and talk to the locals about their errant ways. The local hospital is well equipped to deal with broken noses.

  118. memoryvault

    As President of the United States, my highest duty is the defense of the country and its citizens. A nation without borders is not a nation at all.

    Can you imagine an Australian PM saying and doing anything remotely like that?
    From either party?

    I weep for my country.

  119. Stimpson J. Cat

    We need to close our border to these lunatics.

    Don’t insult us Lunatics by comparing us to these degenerates.

  120. Tel

    The ALP must be so envious.

    Norks have executed top officials over collapse of talks with US.

    No doubt, they are hoping to give Trump a few ideas there.

  121. Speaking of sanctimony and the pious leftist culture-state …

    So it’s now “sanctimonious” to discourage smoking even though it kills people.
    It’s discouraged, not prohibited.
    I took up smoking when I was in the army, as we were given cartons (not packets) of smokes together with a mixture of US and Australian rations usually every five days by chopper resups when patrolling. They included those filthy “Camel” things, although there was also Marlboro and menthol flavoured Kent ciggies.
    (You could buy French Gauloises in Vung Tau if you were that way inclined. Some locals favoured them, and some authentic looking packets you could buy on the street contained reefers).
    Initially, I resisted the temptation to light up, and used my share of the smokes to trade for some of the better tucker in the ration packs. But one 9 week Op (Finschhafen) was just too long. The sensory deprivation eventually got to me, and I started lighting up when the “5 minute smoke sign” was given. After all, the sign used was a “V” formed with two fingers in front of the mouth. There was absolutely no doubt what the break was for.
    By RTA, I was a pack a day smoker.
    This became an issue, as I was back teaching, and although before the days all schools were non-smoking zones, it was strongly discouraged. Kids with disabilities were often unable to separate themselves from smokers for obvious reasons.
    It took me twelve months to give it away.
    I did so by simply refusing to buy cigarettes, even though they were very cheap those days. It wasn’t a problem, unless I had a few drinks and was around other smokers. I’d avoid the smoke dispensing machines (in most pubs at the time), and cadge smokes from my friends.
    This irritated my friends, and the social pressure did the trick.
    I haven’t smoked since 1971.

    FWIW, I reckon smoking is indulged in by people who crave sensory stimulus. Hence its prevalence in low socio-economic postcodes (and for soldiers experiencing long periods in the bush for that matter).
    If you have half a brain you’ll give it up. It’s not as hard as many claim – just requires a little determination.
    The discouragement is probably helpful.

  122. stackja

    The private still angry.

  123. mh

    It’s all about results now for Trump.

    And for the Dems it is all about stopping Trump achieving those results.

  124. Infidel Tiger

    Bill Shorten tells allies of plans for a comeback
    Bill Shorten has told allies he wants to return as Labor leader, but is preparing to be denied his preferred frontbench positions as health or foreign affairs spokesman.

    How good is Australia?!

  125. Stimpson J. Cat

    Armadillo is a fella, mv.

    Since when?
    He whines like a little bookie bitch.
    😂

  126. Shy Ted

    I can think of a significant number of Kiwis and Maoris who should be deported to join in the wellbeing. Manus crims too. Jane Caro wants to go. ABC gushing about it – off you go. I’m feeling better already.

  127. Stimpson J. Cat

    @realStimpsonJCat
    2 minutes ago
    On June 10th, Australia will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from New Zealand, until such time as migrants coming through New Zealand, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied,at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the Mad House to follow.

  128. Mother Lode

    Cue libertarians…. Tariffs are self harm.

    I get that voluntary exchanges benefit both parties – that is why they do it. I give Cathy at my local Coffee Shop $3.50 in the morning for a coffee because I would prefer the coffee to the $3.50 I surrender, and she prefers the $3.50 to keeping that coffee unmade and unsold.

    I come out ahead. She comes out ahead. We both profit. Anything which interferes with these decisions impoverishes both.

    So I understand that tariffs are inflicted on both the supplier and the customer.

    Trump is going old school, using trade to prosecute a diplomatic objective.

    In this particular case he is using tariffs to confront unfair practices which are also having a negative effect on the US – the crime accompanying undocumented aliens and the drain on services. The influx of drugs, weapons and gangs.

    Depends on how you weigh up the cost of tariffs on the American people and the cost of the open border – which is worse.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    There is however one Cat I hold in very high esteem – I find her wit and intelligence – and above all her droll sense of humour – absolutely captivating.

    I’m a Man!
    I’ve said this before, guys, I’m just very in touch with my feminine side.
    Stop this, it’s unseemly.

  130. Shy Ted

    We all come here for the ladies, mv. The intellect and life experience, pithy and caustic humour, wisdom and pathos of the blokes not so much. Now they know they’ll probably let themselves go.

  131. Diogenes

    n order to have first nations there must be subsequent nations of comparable type

    Never forget Mundine(the polliemuppet not the boxer) “I will never accept a treaty unless it is signed by my mob”

  132. Mother Lode

    The private still angry.

    His own private hell?

  133. Top Ender

    Following up on Stackja’s link:

    Today is the anniversary of the Japanese midget submarine attack on Sydney Harbour. As a lesson in how to be incompetently under-prepared this one is hard to beat.

    Several months after Darwin was attacked by the biggest air raid in our history, the harbour defences of Sydney were STILL not finished. As a result the submarines slipped round the end of the boom net and attacked.

    Preceding injury with insult the previous day a submarine-launched aircraft overflew Sydney looking for targets for the next days attack – and not one shot was fired against it. 21 of our people died in the assault when HMAS Kuttabul was sunk.

    All three of the midget submarines were lost in perhaps the only redeeming aspect with two being sunk by naval defenders.

  134. Mother Lode

    “I will never accept a treaty unless it is signed by my mob”

    Presumably he means a handprint stenciled by spitting a mouthful of ochre onto the page.

    I wonder if there is a taboo against photocopying signatures of dead people like there is a showing their photographs and TV images – a taboo going back the earliest days of TV and printing, thousands of years before whitey turned up.

  135. twostix

    So it’s now “sanctimonious” to discourage smoking even though it kills people.

    Leftwing ideology is obsessed with killing people.

  136. dover_beach

    WarnerMedia, Disney Join Netflix in Threatening to Leave Georgia
    By Anousha Sakoui , Lucas Shaw , and Christopher Palmeri
    May 30, 2019, 12:26 PM GMT+10 Updated on May 31, 2019, 6:46 AM GMT+10

    AT&T Inc.’s WarnerMedia, Comcast Corp.’s NBCUniversal and Walt Disney Co. are following Netflix Inc.’s lead in threatening to leave Georgia if a controversial anti-abortion law takes effect.

    WarnerMedia — owner of HBO, CNN and the Warner Bros. studio — said on Thursday that it will “reconsider Georgia as the home to any new productions” if the restrictions become law. That echoed remarks made by Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger on Wednesday. He told Reuters it would be “very difficult” to keep film production in the state if abortion ban is upheld.

    I still find it absolutely extraordinary that major companies are attempting to bully states that reflect the majority opinion of their citizens.

  137. Roberto

    That echoed remarks made by Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger on Wednesday. He told Reuters it would be “very difficult” to keep film production in the state if abortion ban is upheld.

    Good heavens! What sort of films is Disney producing, if it requires access to abortionists to complete them successfully?

  138. twostix

    I still find it absolutely extraordinary that major companies are attempting to bully states that reflect the majority opinion of their citizens.

    After (for me) 35 years of being marinated in rhetoric from every soft-left cultural bullhorn about the terror of the corporate influence on democracy to see them openly riding corporations to overthrow internal democracies, that’s the breathaking bit.

    These people are not just crazy but malevolently hypocritical crazy. Not even in the worst 2004 era ConservaCorp Cuck Neocon fevered dream did they think this was acceptable.

  139. Fisky

    How good is Australia?!

    Terrific isn’t it. Labor is doing Peacock/Howard only with the policies and electoral appeal of Evatt/Calwell.

  140. notafan

    I still find it absolutely extraordinary that major companies are attempting to bully states that reflect the majority opinion of their citizens.

    Tim Wilson says big corporations are the modern equivalent of churches.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Never forget Mundine(the polliemuppet not the boxer) “I will never accept a treaty unless it is signed by my mob”

    He was calling for a treaty with each of the five hundred or so “First Nations.” Good luck with that one.

  142. mh

    Walt Disney never used to be about killing children.

    At least I don’t recall that as a child.

  143. Ken Wyatt promoting a National Resting Place for Indigenous remains at a press conference this morning.
    That will cause wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the proletariat.

  144. Fisky

    It’s interesting how we always seem to have these coincidences that favour the revolutionairy left though isn’t it? Arden and Gillard, both instruments of revolution, both unelected, both put in place by men both immediately set about fundamentally changing the country.

    Like Gillard, she lied to get elected. Ardern lied about trying to get pregnant, no doubt with the full knowledge of her coalition partner Winston Peters. She also promised to cut immigration by at least a third. Another lie.

  145. notafan

    I remember about fifteen years ago some US trad Catholics talking about Disney support of abortion, and one of their grade two children boycotting a Disney film at her grade school.

  146. JC

    SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea executed Kim Hyok Chol, its special envoy to the United States, and foreign ministry officials who carried out working-level negotiations for the second U.S.-North Korea summit in February, holding them responsible for its collapse, a South Korean newspaper reported on Friday.

    Occasionally, even North Korea gets it right. Imagine for a moment the APS being on this standard.

  147. Knuckle Dragger

    Really, you gotta hand it to him. A master in conversion from any subject.

    Smoking?
    ‘My experience in Vietnam taught me….’

    Multiculturalism?
    ‘My pals in Vietnam were all….’

    Foreign affairs?
    ‘The US’ stated objective in Vietnam was…..’

    Communism?
    ‘There were no Communists in Vietnam….’

    MAFS?
    ‘The bloke in Season 2 looked just like the one who delivered films for me to show at the 1ATF cinema….’

  148. twostix

    That echoed remarks made by Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger on Wednesday. He told Reuters it would be “very difficult” to keep film production in the state if abortion ban is upheld.

    Good heavens! What sort of films is Disney producing, if it requires access to abortionists to complete them successfully?

    The main verse of the mega popular Let it Go that millions of little white girls sing at the top of their voice daily:

    Don’t let them in, don’t let them see
    Be the good girl you always have to be
    Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let them know
    Well, now they know!

    It’s time to see what I can do
    To test the limits and break through
    No right, no wrong, no rules for me
    I’m free!

    Absolute degeneracy.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Adani: Queensland government approves bird protection plan

    Sarah Elks
    Queensland Political Reporter
    @sarahelks
    22 minutes ago May 31, 2019
    12 Comments

    Adani has cleared one of the major hurdles for its controversial Carmichael coal mine proposal, after the Queensland environment department approved its black-throated finch management plan.

    The state’s Coordinator-General Barry Broe confirmed the Queensland Department of Environment and Science had given the green light to Adani’s strategy to protect the endangered bird on its central Queensland mine site.

    The first iteration of Adani’s finch management plan — which includes a commitment to create a 33,000ha conservation area on a cattle station owned by the company — was submitted to the state and federal governments in May 2017.

    Adani has been pressing for the approvals from the department for months and last week Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk finally gave in to demands that she intervene, ordering high-level talks between the company, the department and the state’s Co-­ordinator-General.

    Ms Palaszczuk had said federal Labor’s drubbing in regional Queensland at the recent election — partly blamed on the state government’s stalling on Adani and an internal revolt by her regional MPs — delivered a “wake-up call” and prompted her to declare she was “fed up” with her own department’s processes.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  150. Roger

    She also promised to cut immigration by at least a third. Another lie.

    She also promised to take Manus/Nauru detainees. Another lie.

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    Do keep up Boomers and Christians!!!

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3029928, posted on May 30, 2019 at 3:03 pm
    Not a good look guys.

    Reuters Top News
    @Reuters
    EXCLUSIVE: Disney CEO says it will be ‘difficult’ to film in Georgia if abortion law takes effect. More here (link: https://reut.rs/2EIPAjH) reut.rs/2EIPAjH
    />
    10:25 AM · May 30, 2019

  152. Roger

    These people are not just crazy but malevolently hypocritical crazy.

    Worse…they’re not crazy at all.

  153. Infidel Tiger

    Disney boycotting Georgia, but has plans to build a theme park in Saudi Arabia.

  154. Mother Lode

    Several months after Darwin was attacked by the biggest air raid in our history, the harbour defences of Sydney were STILL not finished.

    Not any better now.

    If the same thing happened now the defences still would not have started. There would be analysing the impact on the Orange Glottised Sea Worm and the Purple Throated Absent Tree Frog – a fascinating species that has adopted the unique tactic of defending itself from predators by not living within its habitat: The fewer specimens you find the more important it is to leave its habitat undisturbed.

    And the unions would be on strike demanding higher pay, because this is the way of life that the soldiers overseas are fighting and dying for, and when they come home they will come home to good pay conditions.

    Also, they will only use concrete from the Soviet Union. The year before German concrete would have been fine – any time up until Operation Barbarossa, but American concrete will not be accepted.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Disney boycotting Georgia, but has plans to build a theme park in Saudi Arabia.

    The Fire Rises!!!

  156. Trump 14 hours ago –

    I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected.

    Trump 13 hours ago –

    No, Russia did not help me get elected

    In Fatty 5D’s* parallel universe two contradictory facts can exist simultaneously.

    * Trump was deferred 5 times for service in Vietnam and has a weight problem.

  157. memoryvault

    I’m a Man!

    I have no doubt of it, Stimpy.
    You’re also one of the sanest people here.
    As I said in my very first post to you way back when.

  158. twostix

    I remember about fifteen years ago some US trad Catholics talking about Disney support of abortion, and one of their grade two children boycotting a Disney film at her grade school.

    I remember when I was a kid, visiting my rels out in the NSW countryside all super conservative christians, the Bert and Ernie being secretly gay thing first broke out in America, them all obediently sitting around scoffing about the stupid American christians for being so weird.

    The sexual orientation of the perennially bickering puppet roommates has become a topic of discussion after a writer for the show between 1981 and 1990, Mark Saltzman, told the website Queerty he had written the characters as gay

    NOT LAUGHING NOW

  159. Mother Lode

    Good heavens! What sort of films is Disney producing, if it requires access to abortionists to complete them successfully?

    Have you seen the quality of movies of late?

    Abortion is precisely the word that comes to mind.

  160. Mother Lode

    Hey, KD

    What’s this?

    Was someone here in Vietnam?

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘It’s such a token effort’: Centrelink app users now forced to acknowledge Aboriginal people as ‘custodians of the lands’ just to access online services

    Centrelink has been criticised for forcing all users to ‘acknowledge’ Aboriginals
    The pop-up message built in to their app requires all users to click the message
    Users said it was a token effort in place of real change to help Aboriginals

    Daily Mail.

  162. Leigh Lowe

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3030585, posted on May 31, 2019 at 11:28 am
    Adani: Queensland government approves bird protection plan
    Sarah Elks
    Queensland Political Reporter
    @sarahelks
    22 minutes ago May 31, 2019
    12 Comments
    Adani has cleared one of the major hurdles for its controversial Carmichael coal mine proposal, after the Queensland environment department approved its black-throated finch management plan.

    Paging JC.
    JC to the suicide call desk, please.
    We have a Ms Trad on line 3.

  163. twostix

    Centrelink app users now forced to acknowledge Aboriginal people as ‘custodians of the lands’ just to access online services

    …then one day, for no reason at all, they voted for hitler…

  164. memoryvault

    Good morning Zulu.

    Interesting to note in that story you just published that the detailed plan to protect the spotty-bearded finch or whatever, was submitted for approval two years ago, in May 2017.

    And people wonder why we are going down the gurgler.

  165. calli

    Aren’t children Disney’s audience?

    The dumb, it burns.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    Good heavens! What sort of films is Disney producing, if it requires access to abortionists to complete them successfully?

    Maybe this story will answer your question…

    Hillary And Chelsea Clinton To Launch Feminist Production Company (30 May)

  167. Mother Lode

    The state’s Coordinator-General Barry Broe confirmed the Queensland Department of Environment and Science had given the green light to Adani’s strategy to protect the endangered bird

    Have they seen the size of the species’ habitat?

  168. twostix

    Adani has cleared one of the major hurdles for its controversial Carmichael coal mine proposal, after the Queensland environment department approved its black-throated finch management plan.

    Quite the coincidence.

    There was definitely no political interference in that process at all. The public service is a frank and fearless a-political entity, not the toy of Labor.

  169. Shy Ted

    Well done to all the ignorers. Naughty corner for you, kd. Funny but.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Terrific isn’t it. Labor is doing Peacock/Howard only with the policies and electoral appeal of Evatt/Calwell.

    Yes, when I heard this morning that Schorten was “just resting” and not out of play, I thought exactly that.
    They are set for a decade of Howard vs Peacock bullshit, but I doubt it will end in one of them occupying the Lodge.

  171. Top Ender

    New Zealand is about to become the first major country to abandon growth as political priority in favour of well-being

    Like a train wreck in slow motion, New Zealand provides hours of viewer amusement with their present course of action.

    Not sure when their next election is, but my prediction is Adhern will be thrown out with substantial booting.

    Unless of course she has changed the rules by then to prevent this.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    In Fatty 5D’s* parallel universe two contradictory facts can exist simultaneously.

    LOL. Read the Mueller findings Numbers. Both tweets are exactly and precisely accurate according to his report. Of course the Left distorted the first one by false reporting, but then that is how they roll.

    And you just abetted them, which means you are either credulous or mendacious. Which one is it?

  173. Fisky

    Disney boycotting Georgia, but has plans to build a theme park in Saudi Arabia.

    Good thing the “conservative” movement has spent three decades shilling for corporations!

  174. memoryvault

    JC to the suicide call desk, please.
    We have a Ms Trad on line 3.

    Good morning Leigh.
    I doubt they’ll be needing the suicide hotline anytime soon.
    I’m quite sure both the Federal socialist government and the QLD State socialist government have a whole bag of delaying tactics that they haven’t even tapped yet.

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    Have they seen the size of the species’ habitat?

    All of Queensland is the habitat of the critically endangered lesser spotted labor wymminse, Homo frightbattii.

  176. calli

    I am in the process of bag-packing. Seven weeks, North Pole to the equator.

    Really should have been born in the age of steamer trunks – those ones that were like a mini wardrobe, with hangers and drawers. Fitting this lot into 23kg will require all my ingenuity, including Advanced Folding Fu.

    The airline employee at the booking desk will look up to see the Michelin Man, so layered up will I be.

  177. MatrixTransform

    credulous or mendacious

    theyre both overlapping sets included in the Venn diagram and their union is labelled stupid
    the largish region of intersection is labeled ignorant

  178. Roberto

    Mother Lode
    Have you seen the quality of movies of late?

    No. I rarely go to a cinema. Most of my film-viewing in recent years has been on planes. And even there I’m careful to watch only decent stuff.

  179. mh

    Mother Lode
    #3030595, posted on May 31, 2019 at 11:39 am
    Good heavens! What sort of films is Disney producing, if it requires access to abortionists to complete them successfully?

    Have you seen the quality of movies of late?

    Abortion is precisely the word that comes to mind.

    😆

    Yes, I recall the review here of Mary Poppins by PeteM, I think.

  180. bespoke

    Came home with the flu electrically transmit buy one of you cats.

  181. C.L.

    The Queensland public service was told to change its ‘mind’ on the Carmichael mine or face the consequences of an LNP government coming to power and clearing them out (again).

    Trad is a piece of work with few equals. She personally deep-sixed Adani to save her Brisbane seat (which is infested with Greens vuppies); now she is under investigation by the CMC for telling mining companies to ‘donate’ millions to a ‘fund’ for regions or be hit with higher taxes.

  182. Mother Lode

    Aren’t children Disney’s audience?

    Audience? Yes.

    Market? That would be their parents.

  183. JC

    Calli

    You’re always traveling. What’s with that? I’m in the Apple and still fucked with jet lag after a week. I really hate travel these days, but then again I was never really into it in any big way.

  184. Leigh Lowe

    The state’s Coordinator-General Barry Broe confirmed the Queensland Department of Environment and Science had given the green light to Adani’s strategy to protect the endangered bird

    Having a cackle just visualising the Green-left warriors in the ‘Vironment Department seething that the jig is finally up.
    I’ll bet some of them were still thinking this was just more posturing and their job was to keep throwing up hurdles ….
    Environment dude to Ministerial adviser : “Well, yes, of course we will re-visit the approval process, but these must be considered deliberations, with wide-ranging stakeholder consultation and, in the fullness of time …”

    Ministerial Adviser : “Listen, mate, the fullness of time runs out at 5:00 o’clock today, and the answer is yes. No-one gives a fuck about the imaginary budgie, so get your rubber stamp out and get to it.”

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Really should have been born in the age of steamer trunks – those ones that were like a mini wardrobe, with hangers and drawers. Fitting this lot into 23kg will require all my ingenuity, including Advanced Folding Fu.

    There are shops overseas you know.

  186. Woolfe

    Les Deplorables

    @woolfe

    Hands up (if they haven’t been cut off) all those Saudis who will be enjoying the “Decapitate a Homosexual” ride at @Disney Saudi Theme Park?

  187. Infidel Tiger

    Good thing the “conservative” movement has spent three decades shilling for corporations!

    Societies greatest enemy is think tank conservatives and corporatism.

    Commies are benign by comparison.

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    Aren’t children Disney’s audience?

    It’s not JUST for kids.
    Some perfectly normal well adjusted adults like cartoons too.
    😁

  189. Infidel Tiger

    Miranda Devine

    Verified account

    @mirandadevine

    How did the NSW government allow a) such a gargantuan eyesore to rise above the Sydney skyline b) approve a mega casino that would be sold before it’s built to China?

    MD makes a great point.

  190. bespoke

    *Johno offered actual first hand experiences of opting out from his fellow Diggers and 1735099 turned him down.

    *Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that option H/T Zulu .

    1735099
    #3030592, posted on May 31, 2019 at 11:38 am

    You really are Trumps useful idiot and doing it for free, Sad chump!

  191. memoryvault

    There are shops overseas you know.

    Bit thin on the ground up in the Arctic.

  192. Mother Lode

    According to a unit at the University of Kent called ‘Understanding Unbelief’:

    Belief in the supernatural is still alive and kicking, even among people who don’t believe in a god. Research on atheists and agnostics around the world has revealed that almost nobody can claim to completely reject irrational beliefs such as life after death, astrology, and the existence of a universal life-force.

    Well, there ya go.

  193. calli

    The Beloved loves travel, JC. This time, it’s all guided, except for a short stint Calgary round to Edmonton by car and four days in NYC.

    I used to get jet lag something chronic, then I worked out a routine that works for me. The moment I sit down, I change my watch to the destination time and start imagining what I would be doing if I was there – sleeping, reading, watching a movie. I put myself at the destination, because in a plane you can be anywhere you want to be. I take absolutely no notice of whether the lights in the plane are dimmed or not – they are useless for regulating the body clock. I don’t drink too much alcohol, when it’s time for a nap I take a low dose sleeping pill, put my hoodie over my face and try to get some sleep.

    We’re going Cathay PE to Vancouver via HK, then straight on to Anchorage via Seattle. It’s a really long haul but we arrive on the same day we leave. 🙂

  194. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some perfectly normal well adjusted adults like cartoons too.

    Fantasia is on 9Go at 6:30 pm.
    First time I recall that it has been on FTA tv. I haven’t seen it yet.

  195. JC

    I had a good lunch with an old trader pal who once worked for me. He still does work and has turned 55. He was an absolute nightmare to manage, but was one of the best traders I’d ever worked with. This dude would pull in money almost every day. He once had 45 straight days of making money: an incredible result. However, he made my life a living hell around bonus time.

    He always had a great feel. He reckons the the underlying support for Trump is completely understated and will romp it in. Sure, there are lots of people to who dislike him, but he’s carrying the majority. I didn’t hear or read any of this today, but apparently they were going to post a pic of some black sheila on one of the greenback notes that was approved during the Kenyan era. Agent Orange pulled the pic today.

  196. Herodotus

    ABC: Trump has personally attacked Mueller and provided no evidence to support his assertions.

    Er. Mueller attacked Trump with no supporting evidence, not a scrap of it.
    It looked like an incitement for the congress to stage a coup, or at least to set another rabbit running to distract from the other big story of when will the prosecutions of swamp creatures begin?

  197. calli

    I want to be looking at stuff, not buying clothes. And taking lots of lovely photos. I hope I see the mythical polar bear.

  198. JC

    Calli, you’re going to Anchorage? One of my kid’s school buddies was appointed the US attorney there. Strange but nice kid.

  199. Roger

    Belief in the supernatural is still alive and kicking, even among people who don’t believe in a god. Research on atheists and agnostics around the world has revealed that almost nobody can claim to completely reject irrational beliefs such as life after death, astrology, and the existence of a universal life-force.

    ‘When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.’

    Émile Cammaerts (paraphrasing G K Chesterton), 1937.

  200. bespoke

    I didn’t hear or read any of this today, but apparently they were going to post a pic of some black sheila on one of the greenback notes that was approved during the Kenyan era. Agent Orange pulled the pic today.

    He should put the civil rights chick holding a gun.

  201. 132andBush

    The LA Speed Check along with a small preamble

    I’d only heard the “Speed check” story till now, he’s very entertaining on a great subject.

  202. zyconoclast

    Alen Stajcic, sacked Matildas coach, offered written apology from FFA director Heather Reid

    In a statement, Ms Reid said she was quoted in a newspaper article saying “if people knew the actual facts about Mr Stajcic’s behaviour ‘they would be shocked’.”

    She said she withdrew the statements “entirely and unconditionally”.

    “I regret making these statements. I apologise also for pain and suffering that I have caused to Mr Stajcic’s wife and two young children,” she said in the statement.

  203. zyconoclast

    From January

    FFA board member Heather Reid takes indefinite leave to undergo chemotherapy

    Numerous media reports have described Ms Reid as one of a number of women who were campaigning to replace Stajcic with a female coach — a claim she has denied.

    Privately, there was a significant number who feared the power of what is referred to as ‘the l3sbian mafia’, yet no-one would go public or provide evidence.

    Others believe this might be a watershed moment that enables all women in the future — irrespective of their s3xual preferences — to feel they are equally valued as part of the football community.

    They, too, decline to have their names published, fearing reprisals.

  204. bespoke

    Roger

    I don’t believe in the after life. Used by to many to control others.

  205. JC

    He should put the civil rights chick holding a gun.

    Knowing him, it wouldn’t be too far off. Whoever he chooses, it will be done to send the left fucking crazy.

    The fuck has been undoing every single thing the Kenyan did. Hilarious. By the time he’s through with it, there will be an eight blank in the presidential history chart going from 2008 to 2016…. marked as “unknown”.

  206. Mother Lode

    approve a mega casino that would be sold before it’s built to China?

    I don’t think that Packer built it to sell to China.

    He has just screwed it up and needs to unload it.

    He seems such an astute businessman I anticipate he will be a millionaire within a few years.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘No-one gives a fuck about the imaginary budgie’

    Gentle tears coursed down the black-throated finch’s teaks, his tangerine down absorbing them like a mother comforting a bereaved child.

  208. *Johno offered actual first hand experiences of opting out from his fellow Diggers and 1735099 turned him down.

    Absolute bullshit.
    I offered to interview each and every digger one on one, and take each though my questionnaire.
    I asked for an apology from him and an expression of bona fides and have neither.
    It’s Johno that’s done the “turning down”, not me.

  209. *Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that option H/T Zulu .

    The famous clairvoyant “option”.
    Do me a favour…..

  210. C.L.

    For a Silver Star winner, Mueller has proved to be a notorious coward.
    It just goes to show that war medals should not be regarded as signs of ennoblement.
    Genuine courage is noble, to be sure, but mere physical bravery is mostly about adrenaline, reflexes, rage and luck. Moral courage, by contrast, is all about deep, lived, recurrent and daily character. Mueller is yellow, by this standard. He knows he is part of a lie but won’t say so because it would ruin a vainglorious espirt de corps with apparatchiks which he values more than anything else, even his own honour. Mueller also proves – as J. Edgar Hoover’s sinister reign should have definitively established – that no man should ever have secret police powers for longer than, say, five years in his entire life.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    *finch’s cheeks*

    Stupid literature.

  212. Mitchell Porter

    JC
    #3030582, posted on May 31, 2019 at 11:27 am
    SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea executed Kim Hyok Chol…

    So far this is just a claim made by a South Korean newspaper, allegedly on the basis of “North Korean sources”. It may not be true at all.

  213. Boambee John

    * Trump was deferred 5 times for service in Vietnam and has a weight problem.

    The Trump obsession returns.

    OCD perhaps? Or a man crush?

  214. Mother Lode

    I didn’t hear or read any of this today, but apparently they were going to post a pic of some black sheila on one of the greenback notes that was approved during the Kenyan era.

    I can imagine the kind of person they would have come up with.

    It is strange to think back upon that nightmarish time, the Obama era. You gotta give this to Trump – no one else would have had the skill and sheer chutzpah to take the jug-eared git (and his predecessors on both sides for the last few decades) on, throw open the doors and windows and let in the fresh air.

  215. JC

    Sure Mitchell, it could very well be fake news. However, what a terrific way of dealing with APS staff.

  216. johanna

    Fantasia is on 9Go at 6:30 pm.

    Thanks for the heads up. It’s a wonderful (in the true meaning of the word) fillum, and like all those old Disney classics, is rarely, if ever, on TV.

    I’ve seen it a few times, but look forward to seeing it again.

    One thing worth mentioning is how those relatively uneducated Jooish makers of cartoons, whether movies or on TV, delved into classical music for their soundtracks. Firstly, it was cheap (no copyright.) Secondly, despite a lack of formal education, their cultural traditions meant that they were familiar with a wide range of classical music. And they introduced their mass audiences to it.

    At school, we studied Fantasia as a painless way of learning some of the popular classics. It was fun. I doubt that many schoolkids today could name even one of those pieces, or any other classical piece for that matter. Their loss, IMHO.

  217. DrBeauGan

    Belief in the supernatural is still alive and kicking, even among people who don’t believe in a god. Research on atheists and agnostics around the world has revealed that almost nobody can claim to completely reject irrational beliefs such as life after death, astrology, and the existence of a universal life-force.

    Well, there ya go.

    I must be the exception. I don’t buy any of that crap.

  218. notafan

    JC
    #3030582, posted on May 31, 2019 at 11:27 am
    SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea executed Kim Hyok Chol…
    So far this is just a claim made by a South Korean newspaper, allegedly on the basis of “North Korean sources”. It may not be true at all.

    Kim should produce the gentleman for the media then

    just to dispel those nasty rumours

    because he would never ever do something like that

  219. bespoke

    *Johno offered actual first hand experiences of opting out from his fellow Diggers and 1735099 turned him down.

    *Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that option H/T Zulu .

    Triggered! LOL

  220. notafan

    Wasn’t introducing the masses to the classics, the purpose of Fantasia?

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah yes, the ‘clairvoyant option’.

    Otherwise known as the ‘I’ll Roll the Dice and Get Out of Joining the Army because I’m So Smart and It’s All So Terribly Beneath Me and Oh Shit My Plan Didn’t Work and Don’t Tell Anyone Where I Am While I’m Gone’ option.

  222. notafan

    Seriously, anyone will the slightest idea of what a vile regime North Korea is would not not doubt this for a moment.

    My only surprise is that the seagull hasn’t been for a visit no North Korea to come back to regale us with stories of peasants living in squalid cheerfulness as they til the frozen ground with their bare hands.

    supposedly killed in March after a stint at a ‘re-education’ camp

  223. Stimpson J. Cat

    Fantasia is on 9Go at 6:30 pm.
    First time I recall that it has been on FTA tv. I haven’t seen it yet.

    It’s f$cking 79 years old AND it has classical music!!!
    Where the f$ck have you been Bruce?
    You are saying this on purpose just to trigger me.
    I’m going to have a lie down.
    Outrageous.
    Just outrageous.

  224. Top Ender

    Yes, I recall the review here of Mary Poppins by PeteM, I think.

    Just ran a search for it but couldn’t find it.

    If anyone can link to the review, would appreciate it.

  225. egg_

    Malbo – the Trumble you have when you don’t have a Trumble.

  226. bespoke

    *Johno offered actual first hand experiences of opting out from his fellow Diggers and 1735099 turned him down.

    *Numbers Bob had a perfectly legal alternative to being conscripted. He chose not to exercise that option H/T Zulu .

    * 1735099 tried to game the system and lost H/T KD.

  227. memoryvault

    It is strange to think back upon that nightmarish time, the Obama era.

    Don’t be disrespectful of Obama.
    He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize don’cha know.
    BEFORE he was even actually in office.

  228. Stimpson J. Cat

    I must be the exception. I don’t buy any of that crap.

    Yes but you went all the way to Sri Lanka by boat to buy a microwave, and you are planning on going to a Commie country just to buy cigars.
    You are clearly one of MY people and should be treated accordingly.
    😁

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