Monday Forum: May 27, 2019

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  1. calli

    Also, we now know quite clearly that those so-called “polls” were all a put up job, whether intentional or circumstantial.

    The Libs voted for a pig in a poke and that’s exactly what they got.

  2. calli

    We have been smothered in bullsh*t and squid ink from the moment Abbott ousted Turnbull for the party leadership. Yet some still support this despicable excuse for a human being.

  3. cohenite

    Don’t joke.

    There’s a plan floating around for a geothermal generator at Winton using the hot water from the town bore. Apparently the tiny 310 kW generator is going to save Winton “up to $15 million (US$12 million) per year in energy consumption“.

    Assuming the poor little thing runs 24/7 it’s only going to send out 2,715 MWh per year – which makes the claimed $15 million annual cost saving seem very Flannery indeed.

    You’re right, it’s no joke. From the article:

    The water in the bore wells is around 80 degrees Celsius and requires drilling deeper to derive somewhat hotter temperatures which could be used for power generation.

    Flannery’s favourite hot rocks project, Geodynamics received $90 million in direct handouts from the idiot krudd. The problem with Geodynamics was that the really hot rocks were so far down the water sent down the pipes to be turned into steam recondensed as it came back up the 3 or so kms, in the process liberating untold tonnes of CO2 sequestered in the soil, so additional heating had to be done to keep the water as steam.

    So if the good burghers of Winton have to go a lot deeper for the hotter water who knows what problems they will have. As you say running at max 24/7 the little ripper will put out 2,715,000Kwh. The average house uses about 7500Kwh so the max yearly output will power about 362 homes which is fine unless industry, hospitals and schools want their share.

    Geothermal does work in wet areas like Iceland, new zealandistan and calishitia. But the downside are Earthquakes and volcanoes.

    Anyway here is video showing how nuts flannery is:

  4. John Constantine

    🐑💸 $320 A HEAD FOR LAMBS❗️❗️❗️ 🐑💸

    There’s been another record lamb price, this time at the Ballarat saleyards.

    A pen of extra heavy export lambs sold for $320 a head this morning, beating the previous record of $308 set at Warracknabeal last week.

    Numerous pens of lambs sold for more than 1000 cents a kilogram.

  5. calli

    Just to refresh memories, here are the mugshots of people I wouldn’t trust with a child’s moneybox, let alone a place on the treasury benches.

    This is the best our country seems able to do.

  6. Roberto

    Some interesting voter turnout stats from the AEC. The top 5 electorates:

    Braddon TAS 94.84%
    Bass TAS 93.48%
    Franklin TAS 93.34%
    Aston VIC 92.31%
    Banks NSW 92.11%

    Tasmanians take the top three places.

    And, at the other end of the spectrum:

    Lingiari NT 70.98%
    Sydney NSW 75.88%
    Maribyrnong VIC 76.49%
    Melbourne VIC 76.64%
    Macnamara VIC 76.91%

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Whats worse than being talked about , is not being talked about. ScoMo today acknowledges Abbott in his party speech and again does not mention Turdbull.

    Yes, I saw that.
    Specifically mentioned a couple of retirees and some who lost their seats as well.
    But no Trumble.
    Ivan Milat has a better chance of filling a casual Senate vacancy than any of the Trumble brood.

    Albo just fukn talks and talks , so much for his listening tour , in one ear out the other.

    Ha, ha.
    And out of both corners of his mouth.
    I note he has done his first walk-back.
    This morning “Oooh-ah. Adani might not stack up economically. We need to tread carefully.”
    This afternoon (via frantic leaks to the meeja) : “It’s a state issue. Federal approvals are all done.”

  8. John Comnenus

    Here are some interesting insights into the recent election according to the AEC party representation and first preference vote totals. I took the first preference votes of each party and divided that by the number of seats to work out which party is most efficient at turning votes into seats.
    The Centre Alliance got 1 seat from 0.34% of vote making it the most efficient 1 seat = 0.34% of vote. Next is LNP who got 23 seats from 8.82% of vote or .38% per seat, then the Nats who got 10 seats from 4.64% or .46 per seat, then Katter at .49% of vote for 1 seat or 0.49 per seat, then ALP at 68 seats for 33.4% of vote or .49 per seat, then the Libs at 44 seats from 28% of vote or 0.64 per seat, then independents at 3 seats from 3.42% of vote or 1.14 per seat and finally the least electorally efficient party is the Greens who got 10% of the vote for 1 seat or 10% per seat.

    The Coalition model of the LNP only contesting QLD and the Nats only contesting out bush is electorally very efficient. The ALP is quite efficient for a party that contests everywhere and the Libs are much less efficient than the ALP at winning seats from their vote. The ALP got 50% more seats than the Libs for having 20% more first preference vote.

    However the Coalition got 77 seats from 41.7% of first preference votes or 0.54% per seat. The combined ALP and Greens got 43.5% of first preference votes for only 69 seats or 0.63% per seat.

    What this suggests is that the ALP would be better off sacrificing a few seats to the Greens to chase suburban and regional seats. I would imagine that if the ALP said no deal with the Greens some Greens voters would vote ALP to get a Left government. I doubt the ALP would bleed votes to the Greens. If the ALP got around 36% of the vote at 47% efficiency they would form government in their own right.

    It is worth looking at Victoria compared to the Nation using 2PP results. Nationally the Coalition got 51.75% of 2PP and won 77 seats or 51% of seats. The ALP got 48.25% for 68 seats or 45% of seats. In Victoria the ALP got 51.83% of 2PP vote and won 21 seats which is 55.3% of seats. The Coalition got 48.17% of Vic 2PP and won 15 seats or only 39.5% of seats.

    Note how similar the ALP Vic 2PP is compared to the Coalition National 2PP. Yet the ALP totally outperformed the LNP in Vic. If the Coalition was as efficient nationally as the ALP is in Vic it would have 83 seats.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    Roberto
    #3028385, posted on May 28, 2019 at 5:06 pm
    Some interesting voter turnout stats from the AEC. The top 5 electorates:
    Braddon TAS 94.84%
    Bass TAS 93.48%
    Franklin TAS 93.34%
    Aston VIC 92.31%
    Banks NSW 92.11%
    Tasmanians take the top three places.

    They come for the free pencils.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Who is the ‘Quist’ dick head on Sky?

  11. max

    Teaching creative writing for forty years and how it’s changed recently:

    Four Seasons in Academic Hell

  12. Notafan

    Maybe votes have something to do with policies too

  13. bespoke

    I see your point, but I’d think the drawn-out legal process was far more likely to result in a ‘just’ finding as opposed to disintegrating a fellow citizen because you assume they are personally chopping off heads, raping and pillaging.

    When my son was murdered it took a lot to convince others to seek justice not vengeance. Better to see what can be done reduce the unnecessary delays in the trial process and consistent convictions to help victims.

  14. They come for the free pencils.

    You owe me a keyboard!

  15. calli

    John, would the 2PP result in Grayndler support your Greens/Labour hypothesis?

  16. Notafan

    Calli quite a few of the turncoats are gone

  17. Tel

    There’s been another record lamb price, this time at the Ballarat saleyards.

    AUD dropped under 70c.

    Say what you like about Trumponomics but the Fed is willing to go to the wire defending the USD.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Ben “Quist” or summink.
    Complete fucking moron.
    Not sure where he is from but he is all over the shop.
    Adani … National interest … big foreign investors, but not many coal jobs … what if Adani cause other mines to close … in an age of climate change need broad policy levers (ie even if you pass all the ‘vironment tests we will still shut you down)

  19. Notafan

    And it’s just nonsense from a sockie,

    Just waiting for the rest of the drawer to come out.

  20. calli

    Yes, Nota.

    The only way to prise that limpet Sinodinos out of the parliament was to get him out of the country. The others clearly had less suction power.

    That cowardly member for Patterson went to water when the Beloved asked him outright who he voted for. Good riddance.

    I despise disloyalty.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    They come for the free pencils.
    You owe me a keyboard!

    No.
    But here’s a pencil.
    Used once.
    One careful owner.
    Plus a four foot piece of colouring in paper.

  22. calli

    I hear you. But some stuff needs to be refuted on the spot, with evidence, not “feels”.

  23. Nick

    Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but the SMH was mooting Turnbull’s SIL for the vacant NSW senate spot! I nearly choked. Queen Lucy at work.

  24. Notafan

    AEC handing out thousands of fines in the next couple of months?

  25. Notafan

    Isn’t the logic that the next person on the senate ticket gets the spot?

  26. John64

    Just to refresh memories, here are the mugshots of people I wouldn’t trust with a child’s moneybox, let alone a place on the treasury benches. This is the best our country seems able to do.

    It is heartening how few of the Turncoats are left.

    It’s less than 4 years since the Bed Wetters knifed Abbott.

    Very high attrition rate.

    (And I think the Black Hand brigade is almost wiped out?)

  27. Nick

    Isn’t the logic that the next person on the senate ticket gets the spot?

    They are making mischief by saying that as Molan tried to get votes below the line, the Party should exclude him. Their other suggestion was Queen Lucy’s nephew. Seriously.

  28. John64

    Isn’t the logic that the next person on the senate ticket gets the spot?

    Only if the person leaving the Senate has been disqualified, S44 or some such.

    If it’s a straight out resignation, the Party has absolute discretion to nominate the replacement.

    (All this came about due to the referendum after Joh and the Albert Patrick Field shenanigans.)

  29. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but the SMH was mooting Turnbull’s SIL for the vacant NSW senate spot! I nearly choked. Queen Lucy at work.

    LNP Insider upthread reckons that is posturing, and I tend to agree.
    Also see upthread where ScoMo pointedly mentioned Abbott, Sarah Henderson and several of those who retired or lost their seats.
    No mention of Trumble (or Pahn or Bishop for that matter).
    Why the fuck would he plant a Trumble time-bomb in the Senate with almost a rolled-gold guarantee that he would cross the floor before morning tea on Day 1?

    I don’t think that Trumble even thinks one of his fuckwit relatives will get the nod.

    He is just trying to throw barriers in front of Mundine, Molan, whoever to create chaos and force the selection of a (cough) “compromise candidate”.

  30. Harlequin Decline

    The Paragon in Goulburn came up earlier today. Had breakfast there on Thursday-it was good to see it hasn’t changed.

    I managed to get my 4WD into and out off the underground Adelaide car park with only a torn roof carrier bag courtesy of a low hanging cable tray bolt. The height clearance was checked before arrival and at 2.2m should have been adequate when I dropped the vehicle to its minimum. I’m guessing the steep ramp down and then a horizontal section decreases the clearance dependent upon the wheelbase of the vehicle.

    Naturally it then started raining and I haven’t had a chance to patch the holes.

    As a matter of fact it has been bloody cold and wet the last 2 days up in the Barossa and Adelaide hills.

    Locals in Hahndorf were whinging it was like mid winter.

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    Better to see what can be done reduce the unnecessary delays in the trial process and consistent convictions to help victims.

    My condolences.

  32. calli

    It is heartening how few of the Turncoats are left.

    But oh, the damage those faithless creatures did on the flimsiest of pretexts.

    And they’ll do it again. They need watching. Or removal, even if it is to the sunny uplands of diplomacy troughdom.

  33. max

    What are the odds on Sarah Henderson parachuting into a Victorian Senate seat ?

  34. Black Ball

    I have an issue with mixing your drinks. Lady friend left half a bottle of white, but I have a full bottle of red. Would it be prudent to just stick with the red and use the white to cook with, or just scarfe it down?

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Just to refresh memories, here are the mugshots of people I wouldn’t trust with a child’s moneybox, let alone a place on the treasury benches.

    Ah, Wyatt Roy.
    The Nikki Webster of Australian politics.
    Fifteen minutes of fame at the age of 12, then gone forever.
    Rode in on the back of Abbott’s indefatigable six year day in-day out demolition job on RGR, then stabs Abbott in the back.

  36. Notafan

    Cheers.

    Though the party might want to think of the voters.

  37. Notafan

    Black ball por que no ambos?

  38. John64

    Ah, Wyatt Roy. Rode in on the back of Abbott’s indefatigable six year day in-day out demolition job on RGR, then stabs Abbott in the back.

    Famously plied with rivers of Bundy and Coke at Point Piper by The Termite to get him on side.

  39. calli

    Bespoke, I noted your comment. I have been there too, not quite as close but almost.

    So easy to want vengeance, so difficult to achieve justice. In my case, the bugger’s file was stamped “never to be released”. He will die in gaol. And in the way of terrible PTSD and the healing process, I cannot even remember his name.

  40. bespoke

    Cheers Stimp

    I only brought it up because the discussion up thread. I thought the process was nearing it end six months ago but its still going on, frustrating.

  41. Leigh Lowe

    What are the odds on Sarah Henderson parachuting into a Victorian Senate seat ?

    No idea.
    Although ScoMo did specifically mention her (along with a couple of others) today.

  42. You’re right, it’s no joke.

    Nor is it anything new.
    Thargomindah used geothermal successfully for 53 years.

    Thargomindah was the first town in Australia, and third in the world, to produce hydro-electric power for street lighting by using the water pressure from the Artesian Basin. In 1891 drilling commenced on a bore to supply the town with water, and in 1893 a good supply was struck at a depth of 2650ft (808mtrs) with the water coming from the bore at a temperature of 84°C (182°F). The old bore was the source of energy for Australia’s first hydro-electric scheme when in 1898 Thargomindah’s street lights were powered by means of generators coupled to a water turbine driven by the bore’s natural water pressure. This method was in operation until 1951, when diesel generators were installed. The town was connected to the Grid system in 1988.

  43. cohenite

    Thargomindah used geothermal successfully for 53 years.

    It was hydro; geothermal uses steam not luke-warm water. Pulease fuck off.

  44. Notafan

    Next up ‘bore’ baths.

  45. thefrollickingmole

    A pen of extra heavy export lambs sold for $320 a head this morning, beating the previous record of $308 set at Warracknabeal last week.

    We need to ban it.
    Someone is poor because you are producing a world class product others are willing to pay a premium for.
    Capitalist running dog lickspittle leech…..

    Leigh Lowe
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Oquist
    Thats would be this Olquist, a permanent fixture on their ABC.
    Got one of those “Mr potato head” faces

    Benjamin Richard “Ben” Oquist is the Executive Director of The Australia Institute, an independent Australian think tank conducting public policy research on a range of economic, social, transparency and environmental issues based in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory.

    Oquist became Executive Director in June 2015 after serving as Strategy Director since 2014.[citation needed] Oquist is a regular guest on Agenda (Sky News Australia), The Drum, and a regular column writer for outlets including Guardian Australia,[1] Crikey[2] and the ABC.[3] In October 2018, The Australian Financial Review listed Oquist and Richard Denniss of The Australia Institute in equal tenth-place on their ‘Covert Power’ list of the most powerful people in Australia.[4]

    Remora bot stuck on the ABC shit chute full time.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    John64
    #3028433, posted on May 28, 2019 at 5:57 pm
    Ah, Wyatt Roy. Rode in on the back of Abbott’s indefatigable six year day in-day out demolition job on RGR, then stabs Abbott in the back.
    Famously plied with rivers of Bundy and Coke at Point Piper by The Termite to get him on side.

    Kind of interesting to see the way Wyatt Roy and Juliar Banks spectacularly blew themselves up.
    Maybe the Termite-in-Chief plied many, many backbenchers with Bundy, Bordeaux and promises of portfolios.
    I suspect he may have promised too many fast-track ministries for the umber of chairs around the table.

  47. Nick

    Thanks Leigh, that all sounds more logical.

  48. memoryvault

    Famously plied with rivers of Bundy and Coke at
    Point Piper by The Termite to get him on side.

    Now selling cars.
    Or at least was.

  49. John Constantine

    The chicoms banned South African wool overnight on pretext of foot and mouth in an isolated tribal cattle herd.

    Now under currency pressure, without any resolution of foot and mouth, they have lifted the ban to access motivated sellers of South African wool.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks mole.
    Top ten among the “covert powerful” you say?
    His fucking intelligence is certainly covert.

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3028450, posted on May 28, 2019 at 6:21 pm
    Thanks Leigh, that all sounds more logical.

    What?
    I said something logical?
    Doesn’t sound plausible to me.
    Can you provide a link?

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Still more flannery coming out of the grey skies here.

  53. rickw

    Thargomindah used geothermal successfully for 53 years.

    Thargomindah was the first town in Australia, and third in the world, to produce hydro-electric power for street lighting by using the water pressure from the Artesian Basin.

    Comment and then direct contradiction by quote separated by a mere full stop. Is that some sort of new world record??!!

    Hydro is NOT geothermal.

  54. Farmer Gez

    We need to ban it.
    Someone is poor because you are producing a world class product others are willing to pay a premium for.
    Capitalist running dog lickspittle leech…..

    Fear not, as the price will be much lower when our lambs are ready to sell.
    I’m gifted that way.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Famously plied with rivers of Bundy and Coke at
    Point Piper by The Termite to get him on side.
    Now selling cars.
    Or at least was.

    Turnbull is selling cars?
    Teslas I presume?

  56. Leigh Lowe

    Comment and then direct contradiction by quote separated by a mere full stop. Is that some sort of new world record??!!

    The rake had barely settled on the lawn when … THWACK!!!

  57. cohenite

    Credlin and Rowan Dean chatting about albo and the liars in the context of Abilene’s Law which was discussed recently at the Cat.

  58. calli

    Still more flannery coming out of the grey skies here.

    Sydney Town is now on Level 1 water restrictions.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, pray silence as the ClimateZombie rises to feast afresh on the delicious brains of the gullible.

  59. bespoke

    calli

    I keep telling myself that the lawyers have to do there job but with multiple perps the appeals take a long time. Most of the details of that night have faded fore me as well.

  60. Fleeced

    Credlin and Rowan Dean chatting about albo and the liars in the context of Abilene’s Law which was discussed recently at the Cat.

    What’s Abilene’s Law?

  61. memoryvault

    Turnbull is selling cars?

    No, Wyatt Roy.
    Selling Mitsubishi’s equivalent of Toyota’s Lexus range.
    Only more expensive.

  62. Cohenite:

    You can never have too much discussion about coal, or guns.

    Gees, and here’s me thinking tits were great.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    BCA running adverts on high rotation on Sky.
    Ummm … where were you two weeks ago, bozos?
    Desperately trying to run after the ScoMo bandwagon and jump on the running board.
    The adverts are very general motherhood and apple pie about the great workers who, well, work in jobs.
    Suggest they need to nail some real colours to the mast before ScoMo bothers going into bat for them.
    Some possible advert themes …

    “Downcast kids of business owner who can’t go on school camp because tax bill.”

    “Small business owner doing BAS late at night instead of reading stories to kiddies”

    “Café proprietor telling uni student employee that he isn’t opening on weekends because yuuge penalty rates and power bills.”

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Sydney Town is now on Level 1 water restrictions.

    I saw that.
    Among other things, no watering concrete driveways.
    Just another example of institutionalised discrimination against the Griks.

  65. Eyrie

    “Now selling cars.
    Or at least was.”
    A step up from politician.

  66. memoryvault

    Sydney Town is now on Level 1 water restrictions.

    Don’t be silly, Calli. Sydney has all the water it could ever want from its desal plant.
    Not only that but it runs on 100% renewable energy (solar or wind, I forget which).
    Either Monty or Numbers told us all about it last year.

  67. Atoms for Peace

    Let’s not forget that Great Artesian Basin Strategic Management Plan. Don’t think hydro would get a look in. The viet kraken does keep fragging itself.

  68. Rae

    Sydney Town is now on Level 1 water restrictions.

    No. Not until next Saturday, 1 June 2019.

    And work is proceeding toward the implementation of the Stage 2 expansion of the Sydney Desal Plant by the middle of 2020.

  69. calli

    I’ve always loved Longfellow’s take on “Vengeance is mine, says the LORD. I will repay”.

    Though the mills of God grind slowly,
    Yet they grind exceeding small;
    Though with patience he stands waiting,
    With exactness grinds he all.

    It’s a matter of ruthless trust. In the darkest of the dark holes, look for the pinpoint of light. It’s there.

  70. cohenite

    What’s Abilene’s Law?

    Abilene’s law or paradox sums up the group dynamics of the left:

    In the Abilene paradox, a group of people collectively decide on a course of action that is counter to the preferences of many or all of the individuals in the group. It involves a common breakdown of group communication in which each member mistakenly believes that their own preferences are counter to the group’s and, therefore, does not raise objections. A common phrase relating to the Abilene paradox is a desire not to “rock the boat”. This differs from groupthink in that the Abilene paradox is characterized by an inability to manage agreement

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Sydney Town is now on Level 1 water restrictions.

    The last two properties we have owned (in regional towns) have had bore water.

    How long before someone tumbles the idea of putting a levy on that?

    The property we are in now sits on about a metre of topsoil and sub-soil above hundreds of metres of porous sandstone and the water is practically inexhaustible, but I reckon they will declare it a “limited resource” at some point and start metering it.

  72. cohenite

    Gees, and here’s me thinking tits were great.

    They are but they need guns for protection and coal to keep warm.

  73. Leigh Lowe

    What’s Abilene’s Law?

    Abilene is the town in Texas where the Alamo is situated, so presumably it has something to do General Custer.

  74. Dr Faustus:

    Apparently the tiny 310 kW generator is going to save Winton “up to $15 million (US$12 million) per year in energy consumption“.

    Assuming the poor little thing runs 24/7 it’s only going to send out 2,715 MWh per year – which makes the claimed $15 million annual cost saving seem very Flannery indeed.

    They won’t be allowed to pump that much water out of the ground.
    Barky town council isn’t allowed to put another bore in because ‘lower the aquifer.”

  75. Farmer Gez

    Ladies and Gentlemen, pray silence as the ClimateZombie rises to feast afresh on the delicious brains of the gullible.

    One cold year is weather and not to be seen as a sign of theory failure.
    As with the volcano god, lack of success is attributed to an insufficient number of virgins thrown into the magma.

  76. John Constantine

    Their BHP are lobbying now after the election because BHP were convinced their crony union maaaaates were going to win.

    Vast BHP departments exist to progress the revolutionary struggle of the left, and all they need is totalitarian socialism to Win the civil war and BHP would become the Iggy farben of the Shortreich.

  77. Mother Lode

    Turnbull is selling cars?
    Teslas I presume?

    Something like that.

    It is called a Trumbant.

    It is charged by solar cells, but to operate they need to be supplied with twice as much power from the grid than they generate.

    On the bonnet is a figurine a bit like a Rolls Royce but the head is disproportionately large with vast wrinkled forehead and jutting lower jaw. And a paunch.

    The GPS is consistently wrong, always telling the driver to turn left.

    There are sharp bits of metal that jut out from the seats so all the passengers fell stabbing pains in the back.

    The accelerator and brake operate simultaneously from the one pedal.

    All mirrors are positioned so the reflect the drivers image only back at themselves, including I gigantic rear view mirror that actually blocks the windscreen.

    And the little pine tree shaped air freshener smells of mildew.

    And here is the clincher: If you want one it costs you nothing – because they will be sending the invoices to your offspring for five generations.

  78. John Constantine

    http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/economics/igfarben.html

    Crony socialism pays well for crony socialist management, and shareholders will spontaneously applaud it if they know what is good for them.

  79. Mother Lode

    including I a gigantic rear view mirror

  80. memoryvault

    Gees, and here’s me thinking tits were great.

    I’m an avowed leg and bum man myself.
    As far as boobs go I subscribe to the wisdom that any more than a mouthful is a waste.

  81. John64

    TheirABC reporting that the Liars will take the Chisholm result to the Court of Disputed Returns.

    The story doesn’t seem to be getting a run anywhere else.

  82. Fleeced

    In the Abilene paradox, a group of people collectively decide on a course of action that is counter to the preferences of many or all of the individuals in the group. It involves a common breakdown of group communication in which each member mistakenly believes that their own preferences are counter to the group’s and, therefore, does not raise objections. A common phrase relating to the Abilene paradox is a desire not to “rock the boat”. This differs from groupthink in that the Abilene paradox is characterized by an inability to manage agreement

    Ah, thanks cohenite. I noticed a similar thing in business (I was on a Industry Code of Conduct committee once. *shudder*)

  83. Ivan Milat has a better chance of filling a casual Senate vacancy than any of the Trumble brood.

    Milat would be only slightly less problematical than Anning.

  84. John Constantine

    https://www.bhp.com/environment/climate-change

    Was looking for an article recently, where a BHP wymynsys leader was mocking shareholders that objected to shareholders funds being used to fight on the commo side of the civil war.

    Nothing they can do about us using BHP as a weapon to fight the revolutionary struggle, she laughed

    I.G. Farben.

  85. cohenite

    Four years ago, a Christian high school junior was compelled by her teacher at La Plata High School in La Plata, Md., to recall the RoP conversion creed – the Sh.hada – as part of a written assignment. She was required to write the RoP conversion creed, “There is no god but All.h, and M.hammad is the messenger of All.h.

    The Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) on behalf of the Wood family filed a lawsuit, claiming the school had violated the First Amendment Establishment Clause and the girl’s right not to be forced to profess faith in another religion. Both the Federal District Court and the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the high school’s RoP curriculum.

    It’s hard to believe that both the Federal District Court and the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the school. Fortunately, an appeal to the Supreme Court will be made and there, given its current makeup, it is almost certain that the appeal by the Thomas More Law Center, claiming that the behavior of school authorities violated the Establishment Clause, will prevail.

    Under the guise of teaching history or social studies, public schools across America are promoting the religion of RoP in ways that would never be tolerated for Christianity or any other religion,” TMLC President and Chief Counsel Richard Thompson said in a statement. “I’m not aware of any school which has forced a RoP student to write the Lord’s Prayer or John 3:16: ‘For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.’

    From Jih.d Watch.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Having a cackle about the Left’s sudden concern (trolling) on the possibility of a multi-national coal company going bust.
    Touching.
    But here’s the thing.
    Lefties have badgered Australian banks to walk away from Adani, which robs them of a key talking point …

    “We are very concerned that Australian banks and shareholders are exposed to bad debt losses if this goes tits up.”

  87. Leigh Lowe

    Milat would be only slightly less problematical than Anning.

    Killing seven people (probably twenty or more) is only marginally worse than not backing the ALP.
    Leftism is truly a mental illness.

  88. John Constantine

    Renewables:

    You subsidise a turbine to run on pressure coming from the aquifer to power a remote town.

    Then you subsidise the union super funds to run a diesel pumping station to re-inject the water back underground, so the aquifer is sustainable.

    Then you dump a welfare plantation of mass imported third world peasants into the town to make use of the ruinable power and create a diversity dispersal area.

    One belt, one road landshark debtfunded.

    Comrades.

  89. Fleeced

    CBA chief reveals mortgage surge.

    I think a lot of people were holding back from a lot of investments prior to the election. GDP should see an uptick.

  90. John Constantine

    The prosecutors were convinced that their material would provide ample evidence that even long before Hitler’s accession to power, the managers of IG Farben had desired a dictatorship that would be “able to act without taking the whims of the masses into consideration” and that they had wanted to “dominate the entire European chemical industry, if possible also outside Europe”. Even before Hitler seized power, IG Farben had entered agreements with him for government support for the expansion of their synthetic gasoline facilities.

  91. Tel

    It is called a Trumbant.

    Turns on a dime, sometimes unexpectedly.

    Parks itself in anywhere … often places no one can figure out how it got there, or what it’s supposed to be doing.

    Comes with a five channel built-in media center, offering elevated platform, shallowness boost and base offload.

    If you go for the optional AI extension pack … the whole unit can be entirely self-serving!

  92. memoryvault

    CBA chief reveals mortgage surge.
    I think a lot of people were holding back from a lot of investments prior to the election.

    more lambs for financial slaughter.

  93. Killing seven people (probably twenty or more) is only marginally worse than not backing the ALP.
    Leftism is truly a mental illness.

    Hitler killed six million.
    Rightism is catastrophic.

  94. DrBeauGan

    Honestly, we’ve got a blog full of very smart people, and the most productive, least wasteful solution you have to someone who has committed a serious crime is to kill them?
    I thought this was an economics blog.
    Very disappointing.

    You can have the body for spare parts and fertiliser after the user has finished with it.

  95. Farmer Gez

    Rightism?

    Do some reading Numbers on Benito Mussolini, the undoubted founder of fascism and German Nazism.
    The roots are firmly in communism and socialism.
    Ignorance from a teacher.

  96. memoryvault

    Please don’t feed the troll. It only encourages him.
    By all means talk about him, but never offer anything that could be construed as to him.

  97. Roger

    Ivan Milat has a better chance of filling a casual Senate vacancy than any of the Trumble brood.

    Let’s hope so, but we’re talking about the faction ridden NSW Liberal Party.

  98. stackja

    The private showing anger again?

  99. memoryvault

    Do some reading Numbers on Benito Mussolini,
    the undoubted founder of fascism and German Nazism.

    Like that. May as well be a written invitation.

  100. John Constantine

    https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3076367/qualcomm-lenovo-5g-project-limitless

    “Our collaboration with Lenovo will deliver transformative PC user experiences for both consumers and the enterprise thanks to the platform’s performance and power efficiency, combined with the high speed, low-latency connectivity made possible by 5G,” said Alex Katouzian, senior vice president and general manager of Qualcomm’s mobile biz.

    “Downloading and uploading large files over a wireless connection can be exponentially faster, making remote storage feel as seamless as local storage. This will change the way users create, collaborate and communicate with their computing devices.”

    Be highly amusing to see the first time conroy or a turnbullite produces a non-nbn 5g phone in public.

    Comrades.

  101. Farmer Gez

    Don’t worry MV he won’t.
    I don’t bother with him. I’ve crutched stuff off the bum of a sheep with more substance.

  102. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    further to yesterday’s discussion

    The elusive NMN transporter is found
    Lindsay E. Wu & David A. Sinclair
    Nature Metabolismvolume 1, pages8–9 (2019) | Download Citation

    Strategies to restore levels of the enzyme cofactor nicotinamide adenine dinclueotide (NAD) late in life to maintain health by treatment with NAD precursors, such as nicotinamide mononucleotide (NMN), represent an exciting area of research in aging and age-related diseases. A study in Nature Metabolism provides an answer to the hotly debated yet fundamental question: how NMN actually gets into cells.

  103. 2dogs

    Gees, and here’s me thinking tits were great.

    After Shorten grew a pair, it just ruined them for everybody.

  104. Boambee John

    Communism (international leftism) killed over 100 million.

    Leftism is catastrophic.

    And add to that the six million killed by the fascist (nationalist) left.

    Both brands of leftism are catastrophic!

  105. Farmer Gez

    The whole family is watching The Voice.
    No talent as yet.
    I watch it for Kelly Rowland. She’s a flirty girl and fun.

  106. stackja

    John Constantine
    #3028521, posted on May 28, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    Kev 07 had lust for last century PMG phone nostalgia. No one else should be ‘credited’.
    SC and MT just went along.

  107. bespoke

    Meh! it forgot to rap the snarky comment with a disabled kid.

  108. Notafan

    How could social conservatism and love of personal freedom possibly be confused with fascism?
    Sort of nonsense you’d expect from people with pink unwashed for a month hair and facial piercings.

  109. John Constantine

    Fibre to the phone.

    Like that line. Might have made it ” Fibre to the mobile”

    https://www.whistleout.com.au/MobilePhones/Guides/5g-in-australia-what-you-need-to-know
    b
    Faster network speeds: 5G networks will be capable of download speeds as fast as 20Gbps. The exact speeds an individual user will get will depend on how the network has been configured, the number of devices on the network, and the device in their hands. The 5G specification states that individual users should see a minimum download speed of 100Mbps. That’s the fastest NBN speed as a minimum.
    Lower latency: In plain terms, latency is perhaps best described as the time it takes information to get from your phone to the wider internet and back again. The typical latency for a 4G network is around 60 milliseconds, whereas 5G could decrease this to as low as 1 millisecond. This massive decrease in latency will be vital for technology such as self-driving cars, where every millisecond could make a difference in preventing a crash.
    More simultaneous connections: 5G will allow more devices to connect to the network at the same time. While smartphone usage continues to grow, this is especially important because 5G is set to facilitate new developments in autonomous cars, connected machinery, and Internet of Things devices.

    These improvements mean you could almost call 5G “Fibre to the Phone”. The aforementioned have historically been the domain of fixed line networks, which are far less flexible due to the need for a physical link to the internet.

  110. 1735099

    The roots are firmly in socialism and communism

    And black is white, and the sky is green.

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shorten wants health role, but some in Labor say that’s a sick joke

    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    Alice Workman
    Political Reporter
    @workmanalice
    0 minutes ago May 28, 2019
    2 Comments

    Bill Shorten is facing pushback from colleagues over his desire to become Labor’s health spokesman, with some opposition MPs suggesting he retire or be demoted to the outer shadow ministry.

    After The Australian today revealed Mr Shorten was interested in taking on the health portfolio, several Labor MPs suggested he should not be rewarded by new leader Anthony Albanese.

    The former opposition leader maintains some support in the caucus and from senior party figures, including Victorian powerbroker Stephen Conroy, who have advocated for Mr Shorten to be handed a senior role given his ­experience and work to unite the party under his leadership.

    Mr Albanese today said he would not be announcing his shadow ministry when Labor politicians meet in Canberra for their first post-election caucus on Thursday. Nor would he speculate about his frontbench, which is expected to be drawn up by the weekend, saying only that Queenslanders would be placed “in significant roles”.

    The Australian understands current health spokeswoman Catherine King, who campaigned alongside Mr Shorten spruiking Labor’s $2.3 billion Medicare cancer plan, has told Mr Albanese she wants to stay in the portfolio she has held since 2013.

    Breaking, from the Oz

  112. Roger

    How could social conservatism and love of personal freedom possibly be confused with fascism?

    It’s either profound ignorance or willful bias.

  113. Mater

    I’ll just leave this here:

    “Between us and the Communists there are no political affinities but there are intellectual one. Like you, we consider necessary a centralized and unitary state which imposes iron discipline on all persons, with this difference, that you reach this conclusion by way of the concept of class, and we by way of the concept of nation.”

    – Mussolini, “Per la vera pacificazione” in Opera omnia, Vol 17, p. 295.

  114. memoryvault

    Kev 07 had lust for last century PMG phone nostalgia. No one else should be ‘credited’.
    SC and MT just went along.

    Jeez – just how many pairs of rose coloured glasses do you bolted on Liberal fans have, anyway?

  115. John64

    The first big test of Therapeutic Albo’s leadership.

    Will Tits Peanuthead be easier to manage if he’s inside the tent pissing out or outside the tent pissing in?

  116. Notafan

    Labor going to the aec arguing that Chinese citizens living in Chisholm are stupid.

    Gladys knows Phelps used purple election material, to which no-one raised any objection.

    Iirc Labor material in the same electorate claimed libs were taking 1.2 billion out of aged care and giving it to the banks..

  117. Roger

    …saying only that Queenslanders would be placed “in significant roles”.

    He imagines this sort of tokenism, as opposed to changes in policy, will placate Queenslanders.

    Albo and Marles are soon going to make Bowen & Chalmers look like a formidable team.

  118. Notafan

    Gladys material clearly meant to inform Gladys supporters how to avoid making informal votes.

    Any other construction is racist.

  119. BrettW

    According to Numbers being on the right side of politics is somehow related to being on Hitlers side. Thatcher and Churchill might think otherwise.

    To think children were apparently taught by this guy. Wonder if they got the daily Vietnam stories.

    This is the same person who claims he celebrated losses by Abbot and Anning whilst conveniently forgetting :
    Shorten is not PM
    Labor lost the unlosable election
    Tanya is not in change of re-education
    Labor got only one Senator in Qld and Coalition picked up their lost seat
    Malcolm Roberts back in Senate
    His own state whacked Labor big time with multiple swings with even Lilly and Blair struggling
    Dutton still there and got a swing towards him despite massive Union and Get Up effort against him
    A worker lost his job just because he asked Shorten a question
    Premier Anna back flipping on Adani due to election result

    Clearly he wouid be more at home in Victoria under Andrews. You know, the place that is so messed up that Ambulances drove around with political messages on them.

  120. Leigh Lowe

    Will Tits Peanuthead be easier to manage if he’s inside the tent pissing out or outside the tent pissing in?

    No-one ever considers the option of him being inside the tent pissing those also on the inside of the tent.
    It happens.
    And Bill is great at it.

  121. Arky

    You don’t need an executioner for capital punishment.
    You just do them in pairs.
    One pulls a lever on the other who on his way through the trapdoor with a rope around his neck activates a switch to electrify the trapdoor lever.
    Voila.

  122. John Constantine

    https://www.stockgumshoe.com/reviews/near-future-report-the/the-5g-device-every-american-will-need-leads-to-the-1-tech-stock-for-2019/

    “That means nearly all 328 million Americans will be able to use wireless 5G by Christmas. And that’s just in the United States.”

    That’s not likely to be true. Verizon, for example, is hoping to have 5G service up and running in 30 cities by the end of 2019, but it won’t be full coverage of those cities. The initial mobile coverage in Chicago, for example, is limited to a few neighborhoods… having 5G available in Chicago now doesn’t mean that all 10 million people in the Chicago metro area have real access to 5G coverage.

    The requirements for equipment installation for full 5G coverage are pretty overwhelming, with small cells being placed in every block of a city to get anything like full coverage of an area, and most buildings will not have any 5G access indoors (5G signals cover a much smaller distance than 4G, and have more trouble getting through walls and other obstacles). All 5G phones will also be 4G phones for the foreseeable future, since 4G is much better for covering a large area with reliable service, so I guess how fast people begin to demand 5G phones probably depends on some combination of marketing and network rollout… 5G coverage is much more expensive and intensive for network operators to create, so the pace of development and the “tipping point” when coverage is good enough to create real demand is still up in the air.

    Verizon is a bit further along with its 5G home coverage, which is essentially “fixed wireless” broadband that competes with cable internet service and offers much higher speeds, but that also requires neighborhood nodes and antennas and professional installation (since the 5G receiver will probably only work optimally in specific parts of your house).

    I am not a punter on 5g in australia. The providers don’t appeal, but the tech wave to follow the data rush will have pockets of deep value. I just can’t pick ’em.

  123. memoryvault

    13 degrees here at the moment, on the way to an overnight forecast minimum of 7.
    Or as the old saying put it – “cold enough to freeze the b awl s off a brass monkey”.

  124. Notafan

    Willful bias and an overwhelming desire to irritate.

    He’s just consumed by it, and will say just about anything to get a rise out of people.

    The skin suit Catholic knows nothing of charity.

  125. MatrixTransform

    Cold as a mother in law’s kiss..
    Cold as a tax collector’s heart….

    my daughter at 12yo … Cold as a Penguin’s pee pee

  126. Leigh Lowe

    Cold as a mother in law’s kiss..
    Cold as a tax collector’s heart….

    my daughter at 12yo … Cold as a Penguin’s pee pee

    This all started this morning when Johanna said it was as “cold as a witch’s tit” and I might have implied that she could have more knowledge of that temperature scale than others.
    It was unkind.
    I withdraw unreservedly Mr Speaker.

  127. Stimpson J. Cat

    Voila.

    Let’s just focus on getting the car running first, OK?
    Baby steps.
    😁

  128. Farmer Gez

    Still no talent on The Voice.
    It’s like a singing Q&A.

  129. Black Ball

    Cold as a mother in law’s kiss..
    Cold as a tax collector’s heart….

    Cold as the end of an Eskimo’s tool.
    (HT Rodney Rude)

  130. MatrixTransform

    Thargomindah used geothermal successfully for 53 years.

    gawd its retarded … scissors, paper, rock.

    fun game

    but school teacher, engineer, scientist doesn’t work

    everything beats school teacher numb nuts

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cold as the end of an Eskimo’s tool.
    (HT Rodney Rude)

    Cold as an iceberg, gloomy and glum
    Cold as the hairs on a polar bear’s bum.

  132. MatrixTransform

    Among other things, no watering concrete driveways

    No concreting driveways … that’s the Italians screwed as well as the Griks

  133. Johno

    We got up to 6c in Murrumbateman today.

  134. Black Ball

    Justine Schofield saying to dumb cook about paprika:
    ‘Again, put it anywhere you like…’
    Many thoughts popped into my head.

  135. memoryvault

    We got up to 6c in Murrumbateman today.

    God, how do you survive? Battery heated underwear?

  136. John Constantine

    Australia has similar broadband challenges to those we have in the US — burdened by a country with lots of open spaces and with several embedded telecom companies who have not always been quick to invest in improving services… so they can even use some of the same ideas that have worked so well to get people revved up and angry about the current state of affairs, complaining about how broadband speed is so much slower than that in many other countries — this ad highlights the outrage as being that “Australia is slower than Estonia,” but you can cherry pick these things to find outrage for just about anything that frustrates you about your local telecom services. (Australia and New Zealand don’t have the best wired broadband networks, but actually have very high 4G/LTE download speeds compared to the US and many other large countries, for example, and much better wireless speeds than, yes, Estonia).

    The bogeyman here is not the current state of wireless networks, but the National Broadband Network (NBN), which has been Australia’s largest infrastructure project in memory and has been, as you might imagine, a political football as cost overruns and moving goalposts provide plenty of fuel for pundits to criticize everyone involved. That network is going to be an important part of backhaul for the huge data demands that will be placed on the system by 5G, I imagine, but we’re also seeing 5G teased as a “finally we can get something better than the NBN” idea.

    https://www.stockgumshoe.com/reviews/wealth-eruption/the-5g-invasion-the-no-1-stock-to-buy-now-as-australia-goes-all-in-on-5g/

    Not going to need a 5g phone out here where mobile voice reception is still dodgy. Apple waiting for the bugs to be smoothed out before releasing an apple 5g phone is interesting.

  137. calli

    Gladys material clearly meant to inform Gladys supporters how to avoid making informal votes.

    Anyone with functioning optic nerves could see they were different shades of purple.

    Zali! She’s a cheater! She used blue too!

  138. Leigh Lowe

    We got up to 6c in Murrumbateman today.

    Nominal temp a bit higher, but the “feels like” very low due to the howling wind coming directly from Mawson’s Hut with nothing to interupt it on the journey.

  139. Johno

    God, how do you survive? Battery heated underwear?
    You turn on the big arse inverter air con and if you feel a bit sooky the gas heater gets a guernsey to.

  140. calli

    You guys got brass monkeys running amok?

  141. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone with functioning optic nerves could see they were different shades of purple.

    As long as they didn’t use Cadbury purple

  142. Johno

    Funny thing is about 7pm the temp shot up to 7c. Then the rain came down and we are back to 6c.
    Climate change in a day. Very disquieting.

  143. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I had blood gushing from my vagina’

    Well, that’s tonight’s topic sorted.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    26 degrees right this second, going all the way down to 22 overnight.

    People here are freezing in the street, with snowploughs pushing them into the gutter.

    Winter is coming.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Mark Allen on Open Mike tonight. Geez, he looks less than ideal.

    My sincere apologies, but I can’t remember whose mate he was.

    LL?

  146. Dave in Marybrook

    Remember Cats, the deadliest horror visited upon the world by the right in the twentieth century was Appeasement.

  147. Pedro the Ignorant

    2C outside at Casa Pedro this morning.

    About 20Kg of split jarrah and the reverse cycle aircon cranked up to eleventy solved that problem.

    All Hail to Stihl chainsaws and Westinghouse aircon, saving a poor retiree from hypothermia.

    Sorry about the .000000000002% additional CO2 bringing the world closer to Armageddon.

  148. MatrixTransform

    the place that is so messed up that

    Fatty Ashton reckons all men need to reflect…. on Home Invasions?

    Nah, on fucking drug addicts murdering each other

    Do yr fecking job you fat prick.

    While I sit in the car for 1:15 listening to idiotic talking points regurgitated by m0rons, Im surrounded by thousands of other normal men and women … all going about their business.

    Going home.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    Late, I know, but:

    MV, you are quite right in relation to cut out times when serving terms of imprisonment.

    Each Sentencing Act (or equivalent legislation) in States and Territories has at least one schedule attached to it, which sets out times and/or circumstances where time in the bin counts for longer than actual time on the clock.

    I don’t know what the story is in Queensland, but I know in some places time gets knocked off for public holidays (I know, I know, not my fault) and also at times where outside circumstances, such as a riot or similar where you’re not involved but are confined to your cell counts for more time than actually ticks by.

    There’s always a shitfight over the actual day of release, and what time, and what if anything counts if midnight ticks over. You’d think the screws would sort it out, but no.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Mark Allen on Open Mike tonight. Geez, he looks less than ideal.

    My sincere apologies, but I can’t remember whose mate he was.

    LL?

    Just googled him.
    I am not sure what the story is.
    Cancer of the arse results in losing a chunk of lung.
    Sounds like secondary to me given that very few people breath through their arse (apart from some Queensland school teachers).

  151. calli

    On the evils of Subliminal Chinese Colour Coercion – Layba surely has the advantage.

    That Lucky Happiness Red has to sway someone from the middle kingdom.

    Unless the Chinese are actually intelligent. A distinct possibility.

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    Ashton’s preparing the bed. He knows it, and the public know it.

    He was a shit choice as the Chief, the best of a bad lot. There are Commanders (three ranks down from the big chair) who would do a superlative job, but Government is terrified of them, because they have established the concept, only ever seen in police work in the past fifteen years, that police are an arm of government.

    This is what gives coppers the shits. If they wanted to be government they’d move to Canberra and aspire to one day become Assistant Director of Red Pens on $250K.

    Their budget comes from the government, but they should in all circumstances be apolitical, and seen to be so. Ashton, like his four previous Morons-In-Chief found out they didn’t have the ticker to do the job on their own so they either made complete cocks of themselves, took early retirement or both.

    No doubt Fatty’s netted himself a sinecure at White Ribbon or Department of Chicks somewhere.

    His statements, and those of long standing Internal Affairs (ESD/PSC) cretin Luke Cornelius have a lot of coppers down there ready to mutiny. And I’m only half joking. They are ROPABLE.

  153. Notafan

    KD

    That would give you a few days not the years that MV was claiming. (Riots might give you hours)

    If there was significant amounts of ‘cut out ‘time it would be public knowledge and well known and documented.

    The sort of remissions MV was referring to ended in 1989.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    Fatty Ashton reckons all men need to reflect…. on Home Invasions?

    Nah, on fucking drug addicts murdering each other

    Interesting.
    Plod being interviewed today about a series of J-Bunny home invasions on 3AW.
    3AW : “And there were children in one of the houses.”
    Plod : “Well, that is something we can’t figure out. Whether it was a random event or targeted, or not, given there were children there.”
    .
    Hmmm.
    Does it matter if it is random or not?
    Hint, hint.

    “They would never have intentionally picked a house with kids inside if they had known.”

    I have heard VikPol do this sort of interview several times in trying to imagine mitigating circumstances.
    It’s almost as if they are trying to signal a charge-downgrade story to the J-Bunny’s lawyers prior to arrest.
    Which, of course, they would never do.

  155. 2dogs

    The whole family is watching The Voice.

    What really needs to happen on that show is for a singer to come on, Boy George hits the button and turns around, and then he sees that the singer is Auden Carlsen.

  156. Bar Beach Swimmer

    ‘I had blood gushing from my vagina’

    Isn’t that transphobic??? #notallwomenbleed, doncha know!

  157. memoryvault

    Thanks Knuckle Dragger.
    I didn’t know about public holidays or lockdowns and such, only weekends.
    I can also only speak for WA and QLD.

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, and I’m not taking sides.

    If you combine several or more factors, like a run of days over a certain temperature in jails without aircon throughout like Alice Springs, the reductions – dependent on the schedules and assented to by the lower Parliaments – can be quite significant indeed.

    Time cut for doing courses. Cut for completing courses. For not spitting on people. For not damaging anything. The lists are exhaustive. It’s not my fault. Blame the individual governments and look them up.

    I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. I’m saying it just is.

  159. Notafan

    KD if that is true it’s legislated so give us a link because I can’t find any evidence of it being a fact, every single source talks about non parole periods.

    Australia removed general remissions for any reason back in 1989.

    You saying it doesn’t make it any truer that MV saying it.

  160. Notafan

    Remember the original claim was that people who have committed ‘heinous premeditated murder’ are often out walking the streets and under 10 years.

  161. Mother Lode

    How could social conservatism and love of personal freedom possibly be confused with fascism?

    In my experience the justification is pointing at patriotism in Western countries as equivalent to the Nationalism in Germany as proof.

    In fact, the Nationalism in Nazi Germany was directed toward a nation as the physical manifestation of an ideology. But this is what Russia was as well. The Great Patriotic War was to defend the ideology of the USSR. In both cases ideology was imposed from above and anything already extant in the nation which did serve the new ideology was abolished.

    Apart from that they are stuck with claiming that the Nazis were extremely capitalistic because industry hadn’t been nationalised, ignoring that owners’ ownership consisted of carrying out government mandates only using their expertise to make it happen, and to wear the blame if things went wrong. And considering the experience of the Soviets when they took over industry and dispatched all the experienced people to replace with political appointments this as practical, even while abominable.

  162. Notafan

    remember there was a massive outcry about early release some time ago which is why so many states now have ‘truth in sentencing’ laws

    ok Tasmania still has limited remissions, but maximum is three months

  163. egg_

    ‘I had blood gushing from my vagina’

    I identify as having blood gushing from my vagina.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    I’m not interested in the original claim, other than to say that in some jurisdictions it is possible to have people convicted of murder to be out in ten, and the schedules are on every State and Territory website. I’m sorry, but I’m not linking at least seven things here.

    This is a completely separate thing from non-parole periods, which are fixed by the court, and remissions.

    Tax law is still tax law, and should be well-documented and widely read but I don’t because I leave it to accounting types.

    It exists.

  165. memoryvault

    Forget it Knuckle Dragger. You are wasting your time. Nota reads three sentences of a 50 page piece of legislation that she doesn’t really understand anyway, and instantly becomes an expert on all matters relating to it, both current and historical. Not to mention future developments.

    And if anything comes along to challenge her “expert” assertions like you just did, then they just get modified to suit the new paradigm. For instance earlier today I was completely wrong – it never happened. Then you wrote your piece and her “expert opinion” instantly morphed to “okay it happens but only for hours not days”.

    You can’t win, and it’s not worth the pain of trying.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    ‘I had blood gushing from my vagina’

    No oil leaks tonight.
    Probably due to low viscosity in the cold whether.

  167. egg_

    I must say that I am intrigued by Albo’s pilgrimage to talk to people who didn’t vote Labor.

    The Tory fighter seeks out Tory voters up North?
    No happy endings?

  168. mh

    Someone mentioned polls upthread.

    Trump uses the term ‘suppression polls’. Trump nails it.

  169. egg_

    Is Albo the Shadow Minister for Happy Endings?

  170. Nick

    I had blood gushing from my vagina’

    I hope someone rang Red Adair

  171. Black Ball

    Outback Truckers. Great stuff.

  172. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘I had blood gushing from my vagina’
    No oil leaks tonight.
    Probably due to low viscosity in the cold whether.

    Men menstruate as well now, in these days of enlightened biology. If your cycle is out of whack best take a tablespoon of anti-freeze or heaven forfend, you might be pregnant.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Lady outside True Thai this afternoon …

    Where Mr Albo? Mr Albo no come for massage today. He get veeeery tense with no massage. I lub him long time.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    Men menstruate as well now, in these days of enlightened biology. If your cycle is out of whack best take a tablespoon of anti-freeze or heaven forfend, you might be pregnant.

    Pregnant?
    It’d be a bloody immaculate conception if I am.

  175. egg_

    Has Friedchickenbuger had a post Election conference with Palace chook and Steggles on warming?

  176. Nick

    Albo, you take me ‘Merica?

  177. Mater

    And considering the experience of the Soviets when they took over industry and dispatched all the experienced people to replace with political appointments this as practical, even while abominable.

    And Lenin even told them so:

    State capitalism would be a step forward as compared with the present state of affairs in our Soviet Republic. If in approximately six months’ time state capitalism became established in our Republic, this would be a great success and a sure guarantee that within a year socialism will have gained a permanently firm hold and will have become invincible in this country…

    – V. I. Lenin, The Tax in Kind, 21 April 1921.

    The whole Lenin pamphlet is worth a read.

  178. Tom

    Mark Allen on Open Mike tonight. Geez, he looks less than ideal.
    My sincere apologies, but I can’t remember whose mate he was.
    LL?

    Mine, KD.

    Did some work with him on SEN’s golf show, Chasing Birdies, after I covered the US PGA tour for a year.

    He looks like death warmed up — hollow sunken eyes, very gaunt. His youthful good looks have gone.

    But he thinks he’s going to survive after having 70% of his bowel removed and a big chunk of his lungs. Says he’s cancer-free, with some chemo still to go.

    He has saved thousands of men’s lives by appearing on Open Mike tonight. His message: don’t wait ’til you’re 50 to get your first colonoscopy. Do it at 40.

    He married late and has two little kids. God, I hope he survives.

    I’ll say something positive to him tomorrow. The last thing he needs is sympathy and tears.

    Since they get used to losing, even when they’re playing well, all golfers have to be positive. Marko now has no choice.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    The whole Lenin pamphlet is worth a read.

    Yeah, nah.
    I’ll leave it to you to wade through that.

  180. egg_

    Albo straddles the Qld barbed wire fence…..

    He’ll need a massage when he’s done.

  181. min

    Numbers, check your Italian history , Giovanni Gentile a Marxist, influenced Mussolini in helping to write the Fascist manifesto. Mussolini ran a Socialist newspaper in Austria and Italy. He also fancied himself as a new Colo di Renzo who tried to bring back the Roman Empire in 13 th C . probably had a personality disorder as he had a history of violence since young .

  182. Tel

    He’ll need a massage when he’s done.

    Buysexual?

  183. Notafan

    Of course kD someone could be out in 10, that would depend on the original sentence and non-parole period set, not everyone gets life without parole, depends on the nature of the murder, but no one gets out before their non parole period.

    MV you claim expertise but I’ve actually discussed remissions with a well known Victorian criminal solicitor, some time ago, which is why I knew what you said was flannel.

    Most states no longer give general remissions not like the old days when three weeks could be two days, Victoria hasnt since 1989.

    Prisons counting days differently, just because, which you claimed, is a myth.

  184. egg_

    Albanese not sure how the economics of coal mining stacks up in Oz this morning.

    He needs a demonstration with baby oil?

  185. Leigh Lowe

    He has saved thousands of men’s lives by appearing on Open Mike tonight. His message: don’t wait ’til you’re 50 to get your first colonoscopy. Do it at 40.

    We kind of touched on this the other night here.
    The early/mid stages of a lot of diseases don’t show symptoms until it is too late.
    If you have one “road to Damascus” moment and come through, you take every diagnostic test on offer.
    Not sure why some blokes don’t.
    An admission that they are no longer young and bulletproof?
    A denial of inevitable mortality?
    Fucked if I know.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Albo straddles the Qld barbed wire fence…..

    It’s electrified barbed wire.
    240 volt electrified.
    Coal powered electrified.

  187. Tel

    Not confident that 5G will be well suited to remote areas. I recently read it has a short range and requires many little towers on electricity poles and buildings.

    Millimeter wave is an additional enhancement to 5G, not a base requirement. In remote areas they use lower frequencies like around 800 and 900 MHz which are the most valuable for long reach in the bush, and that won’t change with 5G.

    It’s flexible … high density cells are only going to be deployed where there is a customer requirement. You will get less bandwidth in the bush, but also you will be sharing it with fewer people and the price of agricultural commodities doesn’t change too many times per day.

  188. egg_

    Albanese suddenly loves coal mining and free markets.

    They sound like Tory policies, Albo.

  189. Boambee John

    Mother Lode at 2111

    The Great Patriotic War was to defend the ideology of the USSR. In both cases ideology was imposed from above and anything already extant in the nation which did serve the new ideology was abolished.

    Stalin had a bet both ways. He also appealed for a defence of Mother Russia.

    The Soviet Union was always the Russian Empire. In its last days, Gorbachev had a slip of the tongue, once referring to “Russian, that is to say, Soviet …”

  190. Mater

    Yeah, nah.
    I’ll leave it to you to wade through that.

    It’s easier to stomach than Bob’s bilge.

  191. mh

    Albo straddles the Qld barbed wire fence…..

    How slow are they? Shorten was punished for saying one thing to Victorians and another to Qlders, then Albo steps up as leader and wants to ride that barbed wire fence too.

    Albo needs some kind of BDSM experience, not True Thai massage.

  192. pete m

    Been a lawyer in Qld for over 25 years and have never heard of mv’s contention about how sentence dates are worked out.

    In a plethora of sentencing decisions judges work out a eligibility for parole date from say number of months or years from date of sentence, including time served.

    EG sentenced to 5 years jail, with parole date from when can seek parole set for X date.

    It would make a mockery of this sentencing principle for the department to count days differently.

    Just never happens.

    If no date is specified then (unless a life sentence or child sex offence) you can seek parole after serving 1/2 of sentence.

  193. Boambee John

    egg_
    #3028630, posted on May 28, 2019 at 9:49 pm
    Buysexual?

    Trysexual?

    The seven ages of man:

    Tri-daily,

    Try daily,

    Daily,

    Tri-weekly,

    Try weekly,

    Weekly

    Try weakly.

  194. mh

    Albanese suddenly loves coal mining and free markets.

    They sound like Tory policies, Albo.

    Tory leader Margaret Thatcher hated the coal industry. But that may have been due to the leaders of the union of mine workers being Communists.

  195. Leigh Lowe

    Albanese not sure how the economics of coal mining stacks up in Oz this morning.

    My dream …
    Albo : “The economics of Adani don’t stack up.”
    Reporter : “Do you know the average extraction cost per tonne?”
    Albo : “Um ..”
    Reporter : “or pit to port costs?
    Albo : “ah, well …”
    Reporter : “What FOB price per tonne are you using, and what annual volumes did you use in your analysis? And what long term financing costs and exchange rate did you use?”
    Albo : “Analysis? Huh?”

  196. Geriatric Mayfly

    of the union of mine workers being Communists.

    Good ol’ Arfur Scargill a commo??? Never.

  197. Knuckle Dragger

    This is the last time I will even mention this. The only reason I mentioned it in the first place was to apply some clarity to a matter I happen to know about, and know well.

    This has NOTHING to do with remissions.

    Good criminal solicitors, especially in Melbourne do not want to be well known. The laws and the schedules that apply to them have changed.

    Either do some research or wallow in ignorance. I don’t care either way but it does your credibility no favours. Tine taken off for various factors is NOT a myth. It exists, but you wouldn’t know one way or another the way you’re spouting off because you couldn’t be bothered to use a search engine to find out.

    You make some good points in general discussion, Nota, but trust me on this one. You are ill-informed and wrong.

    Have faith in me. I am the way.

  198. Boambee John

    Damn, got the order wrong.

    Daily and weekly should swap places with try daiky and try weekly!

  199. Mater

    My dream …
    Albo : “The economics of Adani don’t stack up.”
    Reporter : “Do you know the average extraction cost per tonne?”
    Albo : “Um ..”
    Reporter : “or pit to port costs?
    Albo : “ah, well …”

    The reality…

    Albo : “The economics of Adani don’t stack up.”
    Reporter : “Do you know the average extraction cost per tonne?”
    Albo : “Not yet, but the CFMEU assures me it’ll be too much shortly”
    Reporter : “or pit to port costs?
    Albo : “Excessive. The MUA has that covered”

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    Sorry pete.

    You are of course correct in relation to sentencing and non-parole periods and so on, but the various states etc do have systems that take time off the minimum in certain circumstances.

    Yes it would appear to make a mockery of the judicial sentencing, but it happens.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    Boambee,

    That just makes me depressed.

    I’d rather have blood gushing out of my vagina.

  202. 132andBush

    He has saved thousands of men’s lives by appearing on Open Mike tonight. His message: don’t wait ’til you’re 50 to get your first colonoscopy. Do it at 40.

    +1

  203. Leigh Lowe

    Tory leader Margaret Thatcher hated the coal industry. But that may have been due to the leaders of the union of mine workers being Communists.

    I don’t think she hated them per se.
    She hated the idea of taxes funding 80% of their labour costs.
    But, yes, hasn’t the worm turned.
    Grimy faced working class heroes to Gaia roping fascists in just one generation.

  204. mh

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  205. Leigh Lowe

    Afraid your reality is probably right Mater.
    Truth is, no questions are asked, and the “coalmine doesn’t stack up” mantra just keeps rolling on high rotation.

  206. Infidel Tiger

    I see Macquarie is being stolen and with enough time they’ll get a bass too.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    That Mark Allen piece on Open Mike scared the piss out of me. There were no symptoms of note. All the tests came back clean. Wearing a fucking bag for the love of God.

    Never had anything checked in that, ah, area. Because I am apparently indestructible, and more accurately one of those stupid alpha males.

    I have a GP appointment already set for Thursday. I now intend to have a long discussion about my arse.

  208. Siltstone

    John Constantine
    #3028495, posted on May 28, 2019 at 6:51 pm
    Their BHP are lobbying now after the election because BHP were convinced their crony union maaaaates were going to win.
    Vast BHP departments exist to progress the revolutionary struggle of the left, and all they need is totalitarian socialism to Win the civil war and BHP would become the Iggy farben of the Shortreich.

    This is the current BHP “purpose” statement:
    “Our corporate purpose is to create long-term shareholder value through the discovery, acquisition, development and marketing of natural resources. We do this through our strategy: to own and operate large, long-life, low-cost, expandable, upstream assets diversified by commodity, geography and market.”

    This is the new BHP “purpose” satement about to be promulgated:
    “Our purpose is to bring people and resources together to build a better world”.

    SELL

  209. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3028658, posted on May 28, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    I see Macquarie is being stolen and with enough time they’ll get a bass too.

    I think Bass is OK.
    But a couple of dozen in Macquarie …
    “See. The pencil mark runs outside the box. We can’t be sure. Informal.”
    “Is that 5 a 1? And is that 1 a 5? I think so. ALP pile.”

  210. egg_

    Albo : “The economics of Adani don’t stack up.”

    Albo’s done some modelling with trains and tunnels and baby oil…

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Cowan is back in the close category.

  212. feelthebern

    MTD, BHP has been shat on in performance terms by RIO & FMG.

  213. feelthebern

    Mark Latham on PM Live tonight was outstanding.

  214. Leigh Lowe

    I have a GP appointment already set for Thursday. I now intend to have a long discussion about my arse.

    Confucius say “choose Chinese lady doctor with little fingers”.
    (Actually that was Tim Matheson, not Confucious)

  215. egg_

    We have been smothered in bullsh*t and squid ink from the moment Abbott ousted Turnbull for the party leadership.

    And have been labelled “Delcons” for speaking out about it, eh Miranda?
    Disowning that one now?

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Mark Latham on PM Live tonight was outstanding.

    Settling old scores at a rapid rate.
    Not a yuuuuge Albo fan.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    That Mark Allen piece on Open Mike scared the piss out of me. 

    What colour was it?

  218. Knuckle Dragger

    Homeless derro murder update.

    Homeless derro murderer appears on one of Sam Newman’s final Street Talk episodes of The Footy Show.

    Squatting in Hosier Lane (in Melbourne’s CBD) with beard and bamboo through nose, derro and future murderer tells Newman he is ‘a very powerful shaman’.

    Fucking hell, thought just about everyone.

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    I wasn’t watching.

    If something’s amiss, hopefully the resolution strategy involves therapeutic Thai massage.

    On Medicare.

  220. cohenite

    Cowan is back in the close category.

    AEC only showing Macquarie and Bass.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    KD, can you ask the GP about my hierarchy of orifice leakages theory?
    I am keen to get a second opinion.

  222. Top Ender

    Tasmania’s main square proposed for re-naming.

    Sooner or later they will come after Victoria, Tasmania and Queensland

  223. Leigh Lowe

    Cowan is back in the close category.

    AEC only showing Macquarie and Bass.

    Ah, that was late this arvo.
    Must have found some ALP’s behind the fridge.

  224. Knuckle Dragger

    Will do LL.

    Might have to revise mine too.

    Slightly.

  225. Leigh Lowe

    Will do LL.

    Might have to revise mine too.

    Slightly.

    Yes.
    I think I might push Arse Leakage up the batting order, and maybe drop Ear Leakage down.
    Still got Dick Leakage opening though.

  226. Rafiki redux

    Leigh Lowe at 2.23 on what kind of evidence would support a ‘virtual certainty of guilt’ finding. The DNA might be there, but did it get there? On the value of independent identification witnesses, remember the Adoph Beck case. My point: there would still be mistakes.

  227. Rafiki redux

    Sorry – “how did it get there”. One cannot preclude police planting it there. (Some may recall the 4 part TV adaptation of Newman’s Law and Order. It happens in real life too.

  228. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3028672, posted on May 28, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    Homeless derro murder update.

    Homeless derro murderer appears on one of Sam Newman’s final Street Talk episodes of The Footy Show.

    So it was Sam’s toxic white privilege rubbing off.
    I knew it.
    I knew the beta hippie couldn’t have done it by himself.

  229. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe at 2.23 on what kind of evidence would support a ‘virtual certainty of guilt’ finding. The DNA might be there, but did it get there?

    I think I described a mingling or overlaying of victim and perp DNA which has been used before I believe.
    It is not merely presence of DNA, but the mixing and layering of material which proves that the murderer was present when the victims blood was being sprayed about.

  230. John Constantine

    Chicom peoples liberation army fishing vessels in the south China sea deploy high power lasers at Australian navy helicopters to force the choppers to retreat under threat to pilots vision.

    The monopsony buyer that can snuff Australia’s economy out with the signing of a few tarrifs and ramping up belt and road doesn’t have to tolerate Australian helicopters doing disrespect of the annexation of the sudatensea.

    Comrades.

  231. Bar Beach Swimmer

    If you have one “road to Damascus” moment and come through, you take every diagnostic test on offer.
    Not sure why some blokes don’t.
    An admission that they are no longer young and bulletproof?
    A denial of inevitable mortality?
    Fucked if I know.

    Some years ago I listened to an interview on ABC radio regarding men’s health and why men tend to die at a younger age than women do. The guest expert noted that men have no experience of attending their doctor when they are not ill. Women, it was pointed out, see the doctor for many reasons outside of sickness, including menstruation problems, contraception, Pap smears, breast screening and pregnancy. This general awareness of women to make a doctor’s appointment when they are not sick is part of their lived experience from adolescence. Men, on the other hand, generally only attend when the situation has reached a critical point. With the introduction of diagnostic tests including the PSA prostate check perhaps more men may realise the importance of seeing their doctor when they’re not sick. While the growing use of regular work related medicals may also have initiated a change of attitude among males regarding their health. Let’s hope so! You men all need to have a little prick and, while you’re at it, do the bowel screening.

  232. MatrixTransform

    my burden is to work.
    everybody builds their construction on my back.
    When I stop, they all fall down.
    i dont complain at 0500, I just get get up and shit, shave an shower and get to it.
    been working since 12yo.
    get yr Herald! … saturday AGE!

    why do men die younger … because they want to.

    thanks for all yr well wishing

    enjoy The Voice

  233. memoryvault

    Chicom peoples liberation army fishing vessels in the south China sea deploy high power lasers at Australian navy helicopters to force the choppers to retreat under threat to pilots vision.

    John you are good bloke and all and you post some excellent stuff re farming, environmental issues and so on. But please stop regurgitating official propaganda without at least spending 30 seconds to consider the likelihood of it being true.

  234. Fisky

    Oh dear, is memoryvault running interference for the CCP again??? Not a good look!

  235. max

    This guy from Melbourne and his Thai girlfriend make some great videos. Not what you think.

    My Thai Girl is a Hooters Girl in Pattaya

  236. Rossini

    Another quiet night?

  237. Cpt Seahawks

    I see the Margaret River pro has gone woke. It is now a State Government Climate Change contest.
    Should be as successful as Rotto Leavers ’18. (85 leavers and twenty cops).

  238. memoryvault

    Another quiet night?

    Apparently.

  239. Cpt Seahawks

    The relevant gobbmint agencies spent a cool quarter million arranging for Rotto 18 leavers to be “safe and fun.”

    Ruined it at about $2,500 per Leaver. No wonder they charged them extra.

  240. memoryvault

    1.00 am and all quiet on the Western Front.
    Must be time for bed.

  241. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #3028704, posted on May 29, 2019 at 1:01 am

    1.00 am and all quiet on the Western Front.
    Must be time for bed.

    Sleep well MV.

  242. johanna

    Re Chinese pointing lasers at Australian military helicopters.

    Breitbart report here:

    Australian navy helicopter pilots flying off the flagship HMAS Canberra were hit by lasers while transiting the South China Sea, forcing them to land as a precaution.

    Scholar Euan Graham claimed to have witnessed the event when he was onboard the Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) on a voyage from Vietnam to Singapore as part of an exercise called INDO PACIFIC ENDEAVOUR 2019.

    He wrote an account of the incident claiming the lasers had been directed from nearby fishing vessels while the Canberra was being trailed by a Chinese warship. The pilots were “temporarily” taken off flying duties “for precautionary medical reasons,” Graham reported.

    The ship and 1500 sailors, soldiers and airmen and women have now begun returning to Australia, following an intensive three month tour of South and South Eastern Asia. INDO PACIFIC ENDEAVOUR has seen up to four warships, a submarine and nine aircraft visit seven nations to strengthen Australia’s regional ties.

    Not rock solid evidence, but certainly worth further investigation. I doubt that the Navy would be forthcoming about this incident, given the diplomatic sensitivities.

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