Bill Shorten, member for Deplorablia:
“I understand there are lessons to be learned from defeat,” he told the Labor party room.
“We were up against corporate leviathans, a financial behemoth, spending hundreds of millions of dollars telling lies, spreading fear.
Anthony Albanese, member for the West Wing:
I think the senior members, all of us, have to accept responsibility, that those many millions of Australians who rely upon us and the tens of thousands of people who have worked on our campaigns, need us to do better next time. And today we resolve to do just that
Does this mean that the senior members of the ALP parliamentary parties are corporate leviathans and financial behemoths? Perhaps only once they leave parliament.
ALP learn? I doubt it.
Spartacus:
Para 2 reflects that para 1 means Labor is incapable of learning anything from the election.
Translation: We will not tell the truth, we will lie more convincingly and we will conduct more ‘Mediscare’ style campaigns (with help from our union masters).
If he was beaten by Clive and the Indians does that mean he was fighting the East India Company?
Tits blames buba yaga , the fukn boogie man.
Spare a thought for Chloe. There would have been a cook, surely, a housekeeper and didn’t Bob and Hazel have a butler? All those lovely chances to flog her next book?
33%, 35% and 33%. That is the primary vote for the ALP over the last 3 federal elections. Their policies and attitudes are only getting 1 in 3 Australians to vote for them.
I would suggest its time for a change.
Labor needs to kill the Greens. To do that it must take a short term hit. but in the long term it will improve Labor and assit the Coalition as well, in that it will drive 10% of the voters back to the major parties, as well as forcing the major parties to distinguish themselves from each other.
Labour needs to refuse Green preferences and do all it can to trumpet that it favours the workers’ interests over BS like climate change. The Coalition would then chime in say that it prefers a strong economy to climate change BS.
FTFY carpetbagger.
Surely a majority of free citizens, threatened by giant anti-Labor Hobbes goblins, would trade liberty for the safety of Labor government.
Unless perhaps, the spectre of Bill standing on the shoulders of Labor giants was even scarier.
“I understand there are lessons to be learned from defeat,” he told the Labor party room.
“We were up against corporate leviathans, a financial behemoth, spending hundreds of millions of dollars telling lies, spreading fear.
“Mediscare” was a lying, and fear spreading campaign, Bill.
Nobody does “telling lies” like Labor and their union mates’ with their fear campaigns during federal elections. Except the media doesn’t call them out.
It must be nice for Bill, having taken the chance to sit down and have a good hard look at himself, to come to the realisation that everything he did was perfect.
With Bill Hewson as their leader, labor never had a chance.
True the gangrenes have pinched the lowest middle class pblic servant big government vote ,th entire extremeleft wing has gone to them the workers are doing so well they dont want thur new ound wealth confiscated to support mid east and african welfare bludgers ,he alp has strayed so far from its roots it is unecognisable . The “liberals” has also gone off the reservation dogma wise ,when they eleve the likes of turnbull ,pyne etc to positions of power . Farage and Trump are showing that wtern politics is broken it isbeyond repair thus the rise of democraticpopulists ,people who care about their country befor any “career”,watch this steamroller rn into a huge movement in the near future mashing the old antiquated elites into the dust .
The alp talk about corporate interference is rich ,what about that fascist nazi collaborator financing their get up propaganda arm . Unlike the Russian lies of their US decromat comrades this is definately foreign interference bloody lying hypocrites
Quick, comrades, sweep those plans to reintroduce death duties back under the possum skin rug, I tells ya!
Name names, Bill.
Otherwise it’s all blowhard BS.
It was the birfday cake on May 12 wot dun im in.
“We were up against corporate leviathans, a financial behemoth, spending hundreds of millions of dollars telling lies, spreading fear.”
So has anyone put a figure on the value of the support, day in, day out over three years – not just in the campaign and a few months before – which Labor and the Greens get from the ABC and from large chunks of the commercial media?
So the ALP/Greens had on their side
– The ABC and Nine as well as 10 and 7, and things like the Convesation
– The vast majority of Unis and academia
– the Australian Industry thingy as well as many top 50 Companies
– All renewable and energy companies
– All Unions
– numerous NGO
-Getup and its many iterations
-Google, Facebook, and Twitter who are anti conservative.
And yet they lost. And they blame it on nebulous behemoths and Newscorp. Oh and the deplorables.
The lack of introspection is delightful. Long may it last.
Oh I should have added that they were cheered on by Huwei and the Chinese communists. I made this up but it probably aint far from the truth.
And Australian Super and the Industry Super funds
And the Victorian Government.
You forgot George Soros.
Oh, I see you have already met the Australian union movement.
Labor has made a huge post-election strategic error, one with subtle but far-reaching consequences.
The big immediate risk identified by party strategists was a period of embarrassing instability and infighting, so to ameliorate this risk they hastily stitched up the leadership issue in backroom handshake deals. They panicked, but they should have let the leadership process play out as it may.
The instant, just-add-water, Albanese ascension is inauthentic. Are we, the Australian voting public, expected to believe that no other member of the Labor caucus harbours dreams of one day becoming PM? Give me a break.
Leadership stoushes can be messy, but they mean you’re more likely to get the leader you need, rather than the one you want. Look at the Liberals! Nobody expected Morrison to be the coalition leader or for him to win the next election. The Morrison surprise emerged from a genuine and public struggle over the soul of the party.
Labor needs to introspect, argue, and soul-search, even though they have no appetite for it. Their nothing-to-see-here fake unity and conviction will only plug the leaks, postponing the real emergency for a later date.
Good old Bill. He’s so arrogant that not even in this crushing defeat can he concede that his policies and campaigning for them was so flawed that the voting public didn’t want a bar of them or him. He and his colleagues have learned absolutely nothing from this.
Scomo will ultimately disappoint in many ways, but I am thankful every day that we didn’t end up with that other smarmy git in office.
It’s hopefully also the closing of a particularly dire chapter in Australian politics. Since 2007 we have had the most unbelievably embarrassing freak show of successive governments, with colossal egos, backstabbing and garbage policy. A bit of quiet on that front would be welcome.
“It wasn’t my fault. It happened because of those corporate leviathans and the nasty people in the media,” says Shorten.
Keep following that scenario Billy boy. Don’t admit liability for you and your team being patronising, insulting, incompetent, complacent bastards who went the early crow and suffered the consequences from voters who don’t like being treated like fools by a mob of hopeless liars. Now that Albo has made the biggest mistake of his short tenure in the job of Opposition Leader by appointing you to his Shadow Cabinet we all know what will be top of your priority list for the months ahead.
The notion that such “lessons to be learned” might be in regard to policy is, apparently, verboten in the ALP.
Surely Albo as the new leader should have been setting the message around why they lost? Doesn’t this just show that Bill still pulls the strings? No one has even blinked an eye that he can steal Albos thunder even before they’ve done their review? Now the Alp is stuck with we wos robbed by backstabbing billy and nobody’s girl?
Up against corporate leviathans? Poor them, the only had the ALP machine, unions, Getup, the ABC, Fairfax and a fair bit of Newscorp on their side.
I listened to this last night and when he said “leviathan” and then “behemoth” I honestly didn’t hear anything more he said. more. I spent the rest of the time he was talking asking myself “leviathan?”, “behemoth?” Ian 6333
To go on …. I know what the words mean, but I can’t understand why he would use them. Was it (a) “this speech will be replayed for the next hundred years on the ABC and in the classrooms of Australia to depict the greatest Prime Minister Labor never had, so I’d better put some hefty stuff in there for posterity”, or was it (b) “I want to immediately reach out to and connect with the ordinary people of Australia who looked at what I offered and decided not to vote for me”? Ian 6333