Open Forum: June 22, 2019

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m on the brakes, thanking the inventor of ABS. Why the kerfuffle? Some dipshit woman in a Hyundai i120 doing, literally, 50 km/h! On the Freeway. In the rain. As it’s getting dark.

    Two swampies driving their Hyundai, at 60 Km per hour in a 110 Km per hour zone. They were eating lunch and chatting, and, when the driver of the big white firetruck, with the blue flashing lights, behind them, sounded the siren, they rang the local brigade to complain…

  2. jupes

    Even if he fails everything else, Trump will (hopefully) be the first US President in my lifetime not to start a stupid war. That’s something.

    I have no problem with him bombing the shit out or Iran. They need it.

    Just don’t put any boots on the ground.

  3. Armadillo

    Muddy has a point, IT.

    You have completely lost the plot.

    #imissthedeaththreats

  4. None

    Port is the Collingwood of SA football.

  5. mh

    Omar Backs Ocasio-Cortez on Concentration Camp Comparison, ‘That’s the General Definition’

    Rep. Ilhan Omar (D- MN) backed Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez’s (D-NY) claim that migrant detention centers are modern-day “concentration camps” during an interview with Public Radio International Thursday.

    Omar definitively stated that “people are being put in camps” and defended Ocasio-Cortez’s assessment, accusing her critics of conflating concentration camps with death camps.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/21/omar-backs-ocasio-cortez-on-concentration-camp-comparison-thats-the-general-definition/

  6. None

    Go eat your scabs, IT.
    No cats here by the way.

  7. Armadillo

    Just don’t put any boots on the ground.

    Iran is built on corruption and fear. They are used to it. Kill the money source, and make sure that the Revolutionary Guard get “messaged”.

    There is no need for ordinary citizens to get harmed.

  8. Oh come on

    Too right, Jupes. Bomb and drone the absolute crap out of their military assets. Cripple their ability to act. But no ‘we came, we saw, he died’ hubris. That mindset is catastrophic.

  9. Bruce in WA

    Two swampies driving their Hyundai, at 60 Km per hour in a 110 Km per hour zone. They were eating lunch and chatting, and, when the driver of the big white firetruck, with the blue flashing lights, behind them, sounded the siren, they rang the local brigade to complain…

    FMD

  10. Infidel Tiger

    Too right, Jupes. Bomb and drone the absolute crap out of their military assets.

    Not possible.

    For god’s sakes. Please look at a map and read some history.

  11. Crossie

    Armadillo
    #3049644, posted on June 22, 2019 at 7:47 pm
    How many Iranians got assassinated, or abducted last night?

    There would have been plenty of visas cancelled, and bank accounts frozen (or confiscated).

    By whom? The CIA and FBI that hate Trump’s guts and undermine him at every step?

  12. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    15m
    When people come into our Country illegally, they will be DEPORTED!

    Hope so.

  13. Oh come on

    Please look at a map and read some history.

    Don’t be glib, IT. Plus, you ought to provide a citation for this.

  14. Armadillo

    The Western security services know exactly who these Iranian people are…..pffftttt….

    They can’t even figure out if the Russians were interfering in an election or not. It’s pretty laughable. Either that or extremely sinister.

    You wouldn’t exactly be relying on these Turkeys in the FBI and CIA to know what the hell is actually going on in Iran. It took them two years to figure out what was happening in America.

    Hardly a “vote of confidence”.

  15. Infidel Tiger

    I’m not the one hankering for another stupid war that can’t be won, but would cause immeasurable damage for centuries to come.

    You’re the chickenhawk looking for war. Outline your bombing strategy.

  16. areff

    When he ‘cried’ was the best.

    I attended a Swaggart revival at Madison Square Garden before he was caught cavorting with scarlet women. The buckets for donations never stopped being passed around and they were full, I mean overflowing. Place was packed and the faithful were in raptures.

    He cried a couple of times, but the funniest thing — although you needed binoculars — were the pleats tailored into his suit jacket, specifically designed so he could hoist the Bible high without spoiling the drape of his suit.

    Swaggart was bad but this bloke (below), the Rev Gene Scott, took the cake. He died in 2005 after years of being on late-night US cable TV ranting about mainstream religion and how they wouldn’t admit a link between Jesus and the Great Pyramid. Seriously. And did the money roll in. L. Ron Hubbard was right: if you want to get rich, start a religion.

    After counting his donations at the start of the clip below, he really hits his preaching straps at about the seven-minute mark.

  17. Oh come on

    So IT’s stance is let the I ranians get away with anything. Riiiight.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Two swampies driving their Hyundai, at 60 Km per hour in a 110 Km per hour zone. They were eating lunch and chatting, and, when the driver of the big white firetruck, with the blue flashing lights, behind them, sounded the siren, they rang the local brigade to complain…

    FMD

    “N bietjie spuitstick” is driving up the Toodyay Road. He is on “L” plates, on his mobile phone, crossing double white lines, into oncoming traffic, while his “instructor” appears to be asleep in the passengers seat.

    One of the crew of the firetruck, coming the other way, was a retired police officer, who knew who to ring…

  19. Infidel Tiger

    No. Thankfully DJT agrees with me and not the lunatics on this forum.

    He is a sound man.

  20. Armadillo

    I jest, but it’s pretty much true.

    If the CIA, FBI and DOJ takes years to figure out what is happening in America, how on earth could you trust their Intel on other countries? It’s an absolute clown show.

  21. Crossie

    Finally got around to watching The First Man. What a disappointment and a waste of two and something hours. The film was dark in more than one sense, miserable and badly lit. The score was crap and more of a distraction than en enhancement. The whole thing looks like it was filmed by an iPhone and an unsteady hand.

    I expected something along the lines of Apollo 13 which reached a high standard of storytelling. I know this film was supposed to be from Neil Armstrong’s perspective but all it did was make him seem smaller than his public persona.

  22. Bruce in WA

    One of the crew of the firetruck, coming the other way, was a retired police officer, who knew who to ring…

    😀 😀

  23. Oh come on

    Outline your bombing strategy.

    Locate Iranian military targets. Strike and destroy them. The end.

  24. None

    He cried a couple of times, but the funniest thing — although you needed binoculars — were the pleats tailored into his suit jacket, specifically designed so he could hoist the Bible high without spoiling the drape of his suit.

    This is rolled gold.

    One of my SIL’s brothers used to be addicted to watching televangelists on all night TV. He would do hilarious pisstakes. My favourite was Benny Hinn. Total grease bag.

  25. Pedro the Ignorant

    Geez, the Taliban have dismissed the curry munchers for 224!

    I have bet a pineapple or two on the IT blokes taking out the ICC World Cup.

    Lift your game, you bludgers.

  26. Armadillo

    The entire US intelligence community are either incompetent, or just plain fucking sinister and politically corrupt to the core.

    How on earth do you miss this stuff? How do you trust their assessments of “other” countries when it takes them years to assess a fake dossier?

  27. Infidel Tiger

    Locate Iranian military targets. Strike and destroy them. The end.

    That is so easy. We should do that to every bad country on earth.

    Brilliant!

  28. None

    I’m all for nuking Iran out of existence ( oh if only I were still on Twitter to say that so that I could have a horde of psycho lefties descend on me and have me banned within milliseconds while threatening me with all sorts of physical mutilation. Fun times).

    I have no doubt that djt will go after Iran. He’s just gonna do them slowly.

  29. Oh come on

    No.

    Well it’s hard to draw any other inference from what you said above.

    Thankfully DJT agrees with me and not the lunatics on this forum.

    You do realise this is far from over, IT. If an American life is lost due to Iranian action, the Tomahawks are going to be in the air pretty damn quickly. Then what? Who agrees with you in that instance? Who are you going to hide behind then?

  30. Pedro the Ignorant

    Rain on the roof at Casa Pedro, gold price still over $A2K per oz.

    Life is good.

    Israel who?

  31. Oh come on

    That is so easy. We should do that to every bad country on earth

    Not at all. Only the ones that shoot at us.

  32. feelthebern

    Trump must sack Bolton.
    Preferably via a meat mincer.

  33. cohenite

    Izzy a fizz from $600K

  34. Infidel Tiger

    You do realise this is far from over, IT. If an American life is lost due to Iranian action, the Tomahawks are going to be in the air pretty damn quickly. Then what? Who agrees with you in that instance? Who are you going to hide behind then?

    I have faith that Donald is a proponent of Augustinian “just war” theory and that he has only employed evil xunts like Bolton to torture their souls.

  35. feelthebern

    Nicole Kidman in series two of Big Little Lies is awful.
    Nicole Kidman in Destroyer, bloody amazing. Should have won the Oscar.

  36. feelthebern

    As I said a couple of weeks back. I am long oil until Bolton goes.

  37. Oh come on

    Bolton is an idiot. His ‘next year in Tehran’ line is terrifying.

    But it isn’t as though the only choice is between that and letting the Iranians get away with murder. A core purpose of the US Navy is to rain down destruction on a distant adversary without occupying it.

  38. None

    The media is Folau’s best friend. So is Donald Trump.

    $1,000

    1000 shout outs to biased FakeNews, RugbyAus & out of control leftism. ^_

    46 mins ago

  39. Armadillo

    Any military strike on Iran only strengthens the Mullahs.

    They aren’t exactly going to advertise that the US Government has just seized their mansion and estate in the UK worth $30 million, banned the clan of kids from attending Havard and so on.

    Follow the money. It’s much more effective than any air strike.

    The Iranian people long for the Shah. He gave them the crusts, the Mullahs give them the crumbs.

  40. None

    There’s someone who seems to be donating $5 about every five minutes with various slogans like

    $5

    GAY Sydney Media. NEWSFLASH! No-one listens to you anymore!!

    1 hour ago

    By the time this guy’s finished he would have gone through hundreds of dollars I reckon.

  41. None

    If the Iranians long for the Shah they can bloody well stand up and fight for him.

  42. None

    haha

    $10

    Phil Drew Mitchell’s Pie Hole

    Just Now

  43. Oh come on

    Any military strike on Iran only strengthens the Mullahs

    The primary objective ought not be to not strengthen the rule of the ayatollahs. If Iran strikes the wrong US target, there needs to be a military retaliation.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    GoFundMe: Smite the Uppity Christian Darkie – $125.

  45. max

    Attacking the uranium enrichment plants would be a major objective. But just about impossible to take them out.

  46. Evening folks.
    I’ve been watching some netflix shows and haven’t had a chance to catch up on the news.
    Obviously I’ve missed some important items. Someone please fill me in.
    So what was the positive proof they finally discovered tying Iran to the ship bombings?

  47. max

    The ship has given way to the Iranians shooting down an American drone, MV. Argument about whether or not it was in Iranian airspace.

  48. None

    Well I think this might help Izzy get towards a million by Monday
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7169753/Dumped-Wallabies-star-Israel-Folau-doubles-decision-use-GoFundMe-legal-battle.html

    But of course the Daily Telegraph won’t have a bar of that but of course the Daily Telegraph won’t have a bar of that. I’m not sure what this is about yet but I can guess who is behind it.

    You said you wanted free speech, Izzy

    THE SNITCH Israel Folau has collected almost $600,000 on his GoFundMe page for his legal fight with Rugby Australia … but not all of the donations have been made in good faith.

    21m

    This really is an interesting Battle of the wheels but also shows that the media is not about reporting news or even analysis; it is just about sodomy sodomy sodomy.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    Just a standard afternoon and evening at the Cat, I see.

    Some mention of St. Rosie the Killer before, and how the cops were somehow to blame. From Shanahan, the gobby journo and somebody else. I think I may have said this a couple of days back, but:

    The father was a drug-fucked psychotic.
    The father had several warrants for his arrest, including his latest one for not fronting court for flogging and threatening them both. Warrants, mind you, among hundreds of others in the police station closest to his last known address – which he wasn’t living in.
    The father had been served with intervention orders barring him from being anywhere near Batty or her son.
    The father had beaten the shit out of them both regularly.
    The father had, two days beforehand, contacted Batty and told her he didn’t need his meds any more and would kill them where he found them.
    Batty knew all this.
    The father turns up at cricket training.
    Batty doesn’t take her son and piss off.
    Batty doesn’t call the cops.
    Batty sent her son into the nets with the father, and to his death.
    Batty took zero responsibility for her son’s death then, and takes none now.
    It was everyone else’s fault but hers. She should be publicly disembowelled with a shovel and the entrails thrown in a fire while she watches.

    The upside – the cops shot the piece of shit as soon as they turned up.

  50. None

    The Sodomy Moaning Herald is all out to promote the British Izzy hate fundraiser

    More funds than Folau’: Rugby fan sets up counter GoFundMe for LGBT charity

    By Sarah MullerJune 22, 2019 — 9.34pm

    A rugby fan has launched a GoFundMe campaign aiming to raise “more funds than Folau” for an LGBT rights charity, in an attempt to show the controversial rugby player that “intolerance will not be tolerated”.

    Launched two days after Israel Folau asked for public donations for his legal action against Rugby Australia, the campaign aims to raise funds for Stonewall, the UK charity behind a “Rainbow Laces initiative” in 2018, which encouraged sports players to stamp out homophobia in sport.

    Because you see he couldn’t get off his ass too start a campaign before this and he still needs Izzy Folau to raise what little money he has so far
    Remember Izzy was the ambassador for the gay rugby union team here in Australia.

    Honestly this is a fantastic case study for mass psychosis.

  51. None

    I should add that the Stonewall charity fundraiser has as at this moment only raised £2,973, most of it only after I got a boost from a few newspapers.

  52. None

    If only the sodomy fetishistd were truly like the Stonewall activist gsyss who basically didn’t give a s*** and just wanted everyone to leave them alone. Now Stonewall represents crybaby sodomy fetishists who can’t cope with the word Hell.

  53. The ship has given way to the Iranians shooting down an American drone, MV. Argument about whether or not it was in Iranian airspace.

    Thanks for that, Max. It is so much clearer now. So let me see if I’ve got the full picture:

    Iran has shot down a drone surveillance aircraft without loss os life on either side.
    A diplomatic dispute has arisen as to whether the aircraft was in Iranian airspace or not.

    On that basis:
    About half the Cats want Iran reduced to a sheet of radioactive green glass, using nukes.
    The other half, the caring, sharing half, only want Iran bombed even further back into the stone age, using humanitarian, gentle cruise missiles with conventional warheads.
    Only that wimp, Infidel Tiger, questions the obvious need to at least kill a couple of thousand people over a diplomatic dispute involving no loss of life.

    That about cover it?

  54. Fisky

    Israel is an antagonist? What sort of bulshit are you spouting there IT? Where? How?

    Israel had a really weird position on ISIS. Whenever ISIS came up in the conversation they were totally defensive and silent. On the other hand they were yelling about Assad all the way through. So you can’t really pin them down on anything and it’s best to be wary of them like any other Middle East tribe.

  55. None

    Fisky use your brains. Can you think of any possible reason why Israel might be so difficult to pin down on such matters? Do you really think you must distrust Israel exactly the same way as say Iran or Saudi Arabia?

  56. None

    On that basis:
    About half the Cats want Iran reduced to a sheet of radioactive green glass, using nukes.

    No MV, not on that basis. Just because.

  57. Can you think of any possible reason why Israel might be so difficult to pin down on such matters?

    Yes. It involves the Israeli perception of the advantage of keeping the Sunnis and the Shia at each other’s throats, rather than have them together and looking outwards at everybody else. However it is way too complex to get involved in a conversation about it at 1.00 am in the morning.
    We can discuss it on the morrow.
    Now I’m for bed.

  58. C.L.

    Yad Vashem, Israel’s official Holocaust memorial, has denigrated Piux XII for decades.
    All of that was based on Soviet-created lies. They have pointedly refused to confer on him the title Righteous Among the Nations, though few men saved more Juice than Pacelli.
    They can be a punch-drunk people, stubborn about moving on from established lies.
    So yes, it’s always good policy to be prudently suspicious of what they’re trying to achieve.

  59. None

    You know C.L. you’d get might f****** peeved is a Pentecostalist or Jooo demanded that a certain person be canonized under Catholic Canon law so what gives you the precious right to demand that Pius be listed as righteous among the nationsame which is something for Jooos to determine?

  60. Infidel Tiger

    Iran has been a much better friend of Christians than Israel.

  61. J.H.

    What is happening to Israel Folau is a clear case of a Christian being persecuted for his religious beliefs…… So where is the HRC? Where is our Human Right’s Commissioners and their zeal to see wrong put right?

    *sounds of crickets*

  62. classical_hero

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/admit-it-nadlers-ms-lewandowski-jab-wouldve-sparked-a-firestorm-of-outrage-were-hope-hicks-a-democratic-woman?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    Don’t you just love the hypocrisy of the left. First feminists aren’t defending this woman from such vile attacks and the fact that it’s from a Democratic representative is hardly surprising.

    Apologies if this has been already discussed.

  63. None

    It is not so clear-cut JH which is why there is going to be an almighty court battle over it. Rugby Union Australia will argue code of conduct and easy phillaur argue freedom of religion and my money is on the court piking out on freedom.

  64. None

    Here are some Catholics which Y-d V-shem honours as righteous, C.L. https://bit.ly/2ZBCKf1
    Are the Israelis or Joos – it’s not clear which you would like to refer to – denigrating these people as well, C.L.? Or is it perhaps you and other Catholics who probably don’t even know their names? I don’t know why I expected better from you.

  65. J.H.

    President Donald Trump did the correct thing in not attacking Iran over the downing of an unmanned drone.

    John Kerry and the Democrats have been sooling the Iranians on by telling them to test Donald Trump, while indicating to the Iranian regime that if Trump used “Disproportionate Force”, the Democrats would side with the UN to force the Trump administration to go “Back to the negotiating table”. The Dems would revel in that outcome…. John Kerry needs to have the Logan Act thrown at him about this too, but that’s another affair.

    Trump didn’t take the bait….. Indeed he tweeted a whole narrative about what he was thinking….. and the Democrats are desperately trying to make political capital with it…. But no matter how you cut it, Trump comes out looking like a humanitarian for not swapping the lives of 150 Iranian conscripts for a piece of flying hardware. The Iranian people will understand that, even if the Dems won’t.

    Donald Trump is way ahead of them…This isn’t a fight with the Iranians, Trump’s Sanctions are already winning that fight, this is a fight against the Dems.

    The Dems know they are being maneuvered into compliance. They are hating it.

  66. MatrixTransform

    So where is the HRC?

    Hillary cant do anything about it, she isnt even president…probably hasnt heard of Folau.

    Oh wait … wrong HRC?

    So, Hillary goes back in time to tell Obummer not to give billions in cash to the persians to save the planet from Unclear Disaster.

    Then the Shah goes back in time to tell the Ruskies not to build reactors with Lego

    Which gets us all here

    somewhere I have a mustachioed

    doppelganger with that isnt quite as sarcastic as me

  67. Bruce of Newcastle

    They’re back!

    Florida man sentenced to 15 years for dismembering father

    Florida man throws feces at Miami judge, gets acquitted on burglary charges

    Florida woman arrested after turning in estranged husband’s gun a day after he tried to run her over: reports

    That lot is on Fox News website this morning, so are probably too new to make the WIP. (I’ve edited the second one slightly, reading the story my edit appears quite accurate…)

  68. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3049897, posted on June 23, 2019 at 6:54 am

    They’re back!

    Florida man sentenced to 15 years for dismembering father

    OOOK, so what did he get for killing him?
    Or that didn’t happen?
    Too late here to follow links.

  69. Bruce of Newcastle

    Donald Trump is way ahead of them…This isn’t a fight with the Iranians, Trump’s Sanctions are already winning that fight, this is a fight against the Dems.

    Speaking of which, also on Fox website this morning is this one:
    Trump says US will impose ‘major’ sanctions on Iran starting Monday
    The rodent struggles and the big orange boa constrictor just tightens its coils some more.

  70. Tintarella di Luna

    What is happening to Israel Folau is a clear case of a Christian being persecuted for his religious beliefs…… So where is the HRC? Where is our Human Right’s Commissioners and their zeal to see wrong put right?

    *sounds of crickets*

    Either Israel Folau or someone, or maybe even the 8,000 donors to his Go Fund Me, should lodge a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission — now that would be very interesting. Because that’s what the forms say, that the person whose rights are being infringed or someone who is concerned that a person’s human rights are being infringed can lodge a complaint and if it is in writing (as the hound-faced former President said) it must be investigated.

  71. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I have no problem with him bombing the shit out or Iran. They need it.

    The sanctions are biting and the mullas after declaring they will wait Trump out, want to save face by not been seen publicly bending to Trumps will. Trump has given them an out, it’s up to them to take it.

  72. Tom

    So where is the HRC?

    Sorry. Izzy is wrong tribe, cuz.

    The White Bureaucratic Thought Police only pat brown people on the head if they’re OK with buggery, sex with children, moral debauchery. etc.

  73. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Either Israel Folau or someone, or maybe even the 8,000 donors to his Go Fund Me, should lodge a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission — now that would be very interesting. Because that’s what the forms say, that the person whose rights are being infringed or someone who is concerned that a person’s human rights are being infringed can lodge a complaint and if it is in writing (as the hound-faced former President said) it must be investigated.

    HRC are only interested in shaking up people for a few grand. this is way above their league and they won’t support someone who heaps shit on protected classes like fags. His islander protected class status is negated by being a devout christian.

  74. Win

    I joined Tim Wilson’s Tax Payer Alliance because of the blanket Labor coverage the grovelling to Beattie Bligh Rudd Gillard Rudd and the unreported political abuses that permeated into our lives in Queensland. After the Sydney meeting I heard nothing further from Wilson which is strange as I paid the fees and the gentleman who accompanied me got the correspondence.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    OOOK, so what did he get for killing him?

    Here you go Mark…

    A Florida man was sentenced to 15 years in prison on Friday for dismembering his father’s dead body, but was found not guilty of murder in the crime. James “Jimmy” Scandirito, 50, of Boca Raton, was found guilty of “abuse of a dead body” after allegedly cutting up the corpse of his father, 74-year-old James “Skip” Scandirito.

    During the trial, Scandirito said he found his father motionless in the living room on a pile of cocaine. Scared, he said he began cutting up the body and finding ways to dispose of it.

    “It was one bad decision, and another bad decision, and a stupid decision, and a horrible decision,” Scandirito testified, according to the Palm Beach Post. “It just kept snowballing.”

    Prosecutors said Scandirito hacked up his dad for inheritance money because he wasn’t doing well financially. They asked for the maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.

    Definitely a Florida Man.

  76. Notafan

    This idea that holy rollers operate independent churches.

    Yes well

    They get their theology degrees from the same places and go out and ‘church plant’.

    There’s a reason they do double business and theology degrees.

    If you are preaching prosperity, that includes the preacher.

    And if you think Israel got his anti Catholic rantings out of thin air, I think you are wrong, that is received theology.

    People like Swaggart and Money ? are were the top of their professions.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    President Donald Trump did the correct thing in not attacking Iran over the downing of an unmanned drone.

    For Cats reading Persian tea leaves don’t miss Steven Hayward’s article today.
    On the Question of Trump vs. Iran
    RTWT. The PSes are fun, especially the first one.

  78. bespoke

    Crossie
    #3049822, posted on June 22, 2019 at 10:57 pm
    I expected something along the lines of Apollo 13 which reached a high standard of storytelling. I know this film was supposed to be from Neil Armstrong’s perspective but all it did was make him seem smaller than his public persona.

    If you can check out Salyut 7: The True Story of the Soviet ‘Apollo 13’. The production is surprisingly good and the drama-story balance is fare better then crap Hollywood has been doing.

  79. Farmer Gez

    The Matildas are out.
    Lost the penalty shoot out with Norway.
    I doubt you’re interested but I thought I’d pass on the news.

  80. Geriatric Mayfly

    Didn’t Iran put in a big order with Boeing during Obama’s days of friendship and cooperation? Presume it has been scrapped, but what of the jerbs in Seattle and elsewhere?

  81. Farmer Gez

    Is it at all possible to give religion a break on Sunday please?

  82. stackja

    Report uncovers millionaire philanthropists’ mysterious anti-vax ties
    Bernard and Lisa Selz are fabulously wealthy US philanthropists — and they’ve donated more than $4.3 million to a controversial cause.

    Millionaires Bernard and Lisa Selz are known for their generous charitable donations — but for the past few years, they’ve quietly given a fortune to the anti-vaccination movement.

    The wealthy New York couple’s involvement in the controversial cause has been uncovered by the Washington Post following a lengthy investigation by reporters Lena Sun and Amy Brittain.

    They revealed the couple had contributed through the Selz Foundation “more than $US3 million ($A4.3 million) in recent years to groups that stoke fears about immunisations online and at live events”.

  83. stackja

    Farmer Gez
    #3049919, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Is it at all possible to give religion a break on Sunday please?

    Amen?

  84. stackja

    Sky Rail workers among those nabbed in public service probe
    A brazen alleged heist by Sky Rail workers is just one of dozens of fraud and corruption cases caught in a year, costing Victorian taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Tom Minear, State Politics Reporter, Sunday Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    June 22, 2019 10:13pm

    Four workers on Melbourne’s sky rail project have been charged over the theft of $200,000 worth of construction materials from work sites.

    The Sunday Herald Sun can reveal the brazen heist is one of dozens of fraud and corruption cases within ­Victoria’s public service since July 1 last year, costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Police have also been called in to probe contractors who worked on the Caulfield to Dandenong sky rail project over potentially fraudulent timesheets.

    Level Crossing Removal Authority chief Kevin Devlin said: “Any matter of this nature is taken very seriously. We have zero tolerance for ­any illegal ­activity on our project sites.”

    The Education Department — which has been marred by serious ­corruption in recent years — has dealt with five significant incidents in the past 12 months, including a worker busted falsely claiming leave entitlements.

    Four other matters are being probed by police, including two phishing scams where criminals tried to rip off taxpayers by hacking a government supplier’s communications and providing false bank account details.

    Other cases include:

    A COURT Services employee being ­investigated by police for “engaging in dishonest activity to achieve a non-­financial gain for another person”;

    THE disappearance of dozens of wireless internet devices worth more than $36,000 from the trouble-plagued IT agency Cenitex;

    MORE than $400,000 inadvertently paid to scammers who siphoned money from a contractor;

    A SIGNIFICANT fraud case involving the Department of Justice and Community Service, which is being probed by the anti-corruption watchdog and has already prompted tough new measures to “manage the risks associated with this conduct”.

    The Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission has launched an advertising campaign urging ­Victorians to report public sector ­corruption. Chief Alistair ­Maclean said it was “not a victimless crime”.

    “It wastes taxes and rates that should be used to operate and maintain Victoria’s schools, hospitals, roads and other vital public services and projects,” he said. “It damages the reputation of organisations and undermines community confidence in the public sector.”

    More than a dozen fraud and corruption cases were identified within the Department of Health and Human ­Services, with 10 still under investigation and two matters proven.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    This could make Boeing bleed.

    Numbers – In the pilot strike did you back Bob Hawke and the ALP or did you back the striking pilots?

  86. stackja

    Oz women soccer team worst result in 16 years. Change the coach to satisfy the offended. What could possibly go wrong?

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Clearly, there is an overriding demand for bigger, faster, stronger lezzos in this country.

    Skinny little ones that do backflips are obviously past their use by date.

  88. Numbers – In the pilot strike did you back Bob Hawke and the ALP or did you back the striking pilots?

  89. Knuckle Dragger

    Great WIP as always, Tom.

    Two days ago I spoke of the Alabama attack squirrel. Everyone thought ‘that’s bullshit KD. Get off the pipe KD.’

    Vindicated, through the weekly glory that is the WIP.

  90. bespoke

    Farmer Gez
    #3049919, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Is it at all possible to give religion a break on Sunday please?

    How about pubes? Some have a fetish.

  91. Numbers – In the pilot strike did you back Bob Hawke and the ALP or did you back the striking pilots?

    Given that I knew nothing about aviation, I didn’t take sides.
    I realise that’s very hard for Cats to understand.
    For most who post here, total ignorance is a prerequisite.

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    Speaking of glory, the WIP’s Medieval Kneivel is going to be enlarged and displayed on my office wall along with several other selected WIP gems.

    My bosses, on the rare occasion they work the guts up to come in won’t have the faintest clue what the Bayeux Tapestry is, and will again leave more clueless than when they came in.

  93. Twostix

    A little bit of a faux pas for a catholic to be mocking protestant churches as weird money making ventures, nota.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    GoFundMe: Widespread Popular Opinion That Christianity Is Dead – $125.

  95. woolfe

    For most who post here, total ignorance is a prerequisite.

    Prime example.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    Given that I knew nothing about aviation, I didn’t take sides.

    So why do you appear to be taking sides against Boeing then?

  97. Twostix

    this type of pastor

    Perhaps they’re merely inspired?

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    Leave him alone BoN.

    He’s practicing for his Plenary Council Weekly Address on ‘Boeing, Trump, Conservatism, Teaching and Vietnam – Memoirs of a Reluctant Hero’.

    Standing room only, in the last remaining Toowoomba phone box.

  99. Knuckle Dragger

    And the mandatory encore presentation – ‘Herding Spastics for Dummies, and How I Took 12 Months to Sack a Smoker.’

  100. areff

    Are there theists yet amongst us? It seems the secularisation of belief proceeds apace. When they had the memorial service for the Black Saturday dead, rather than songs of devotion, the event’s spiritual highpoint was a choral performance of Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah”, which has become something of a hymn for the godless (along with that other odious number “Imagine”). Second verse

    Well your faith was strong but you needed proof
    You saw her bathing on the roof
    Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew ya
    She tied you to her kitchen chair
    And she broke your throne and she cut your hair
    And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

    Public nudity, bondage and tonsorial grooming — the new spirituality!

  101. Tom

    Medieval Knievel

    Thanks, KD. Skimmed over it the first time. Magnificent!

  102. Des Deskperson

    ‘Either Israel Folau or someone, or maybe even the 8,000 donors to his Go Fund Me, should lodge a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission — now that would be very interesting. ‘

    Aport from other concerns about the AHRC’s objectivity, when it comes to discrimination on the basis of religion, the AHRC’s powers are only recommendatory. The courts will be quicker, produce an actual decision and award more money.

    The Fair Work Act prohibits discriminate in employment on the basis of religion, but Folau almost certainly earns too much to be covered by the unfair dismissal provisions of that legislation. There are also, of course, the general disadvantage provisions of the FWA which Guthrie used as the basis of her complaint against the ABC and which could be relevant in the Folau case.

    I’m assuming that Folau and his advisers have considered these opinions but opted for the courts.

  103. Ellie

    Good to see a sex columnist writing for a very conservative forum. And on such an important issue.
    Link

  104. Knuckle Dragger

    Apologies, people.

    I’ve just read the fanzine article in the Currant Bun re the Matildas.

    It was, of course, everyone else’s fault.

    The Norwegian goalie for not letting through goals. The video system for not showing clear evidence of something that wasn’t there. The ref for having the audacity to red card one of the ‘girls’ for doing stuff that gets you a red card. The taggers for tagging. And the coach, for saying Australia’s defence was ‘leaky’.

    4 – 1. The conspiracy continues.

  105. Twostix

    S18c has no provision for religion and we need to keep it that way!

    Otherwise follow UK into the abyss where normies are imprisoned for mocking muzzles and the bible is banned as hate speech.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3049913, posted on June 23, 2019 at 7:54 am

    The Matildas are out.
    Lost the penalty shoot out with Norway.
    I doubt you’re interested but I thought I’d pass on the news.

    I wasn’t interested but became so when the labia mafia rissoled and defamed the coach.
    Good news.

  107. Ellie

    She tied you to her kitchen chair

    Areff, that line reminds me of this song.
    Power

  108. Knuckle Dragger

    Good link re euthanasia, Ellie.

    There will be vast sums of money to be made from this, by someone. Sure as eggs.

  109. C.L.

    … what gives you the precious right to demand that Pius be listed as righteous among the nationsame which is something for Jooos to determine?

    I don’t give a fuck about their academy awards. I’m talking about the state of Israel’s hatred of the heroic Pius XII and its malicious publication of the Soviet Union’s lies about him. They’ve been told to pull their heads in on the subject but refuse to do so. The reason is that Western dinner party leftists insist that Pius be ‘brought down’ (and kept down) to smear the Church (a la Pell) and Yad Vashem is not going to jeopardise the donations of Manhattan Democrats merely for the sake of historical truth.

    Pointing to other unknown – and, to the same leftists – symbolically unimportant Catholics who received the title is a meaningless, bullshit argument.

  110. About half the Cats want Iran reduced to a sheet of radioactive green glass, using nukes.

    Pfft. Misquoted by small minds.

    The ME should be reduced to a sheet of radioactive glass, using nukes.

  111. C.L.

    Andrew Bolt jumps the gun on the Boris Johnson marital tiff.
    The police were called by far-left, Tory-hating Remainer neighbours who are crazy “playwrights”.

  112. Entropy

    My bosses, on the rare occasion they work the guts up to come in won’t have the faintest clue what the Bayeux Tapestry is, and will again leave more clueless than when they came in.

    I admire the clear effectiveness of the shield wall that was portrayed.

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mineral water found to contain minerals…

    Arsenic found in bottled water sold at Whole Foods, Walmart, Target

    While there’s almost certainly an element of hyper hype in this story, it’s still interesting because of the chemistry of natural water. Especially spring water. Arsenic can be mobilised in chemically reducing conditions, and is a big problem in a lot of countries where tube wells were installed by well-meaning NGOs. Arsenic is removed quantitatively by standard water treatment that tap water is put through.

  114. Old School Conservative

    Farmer Gez
    #3049913, posted on June 23, 2019 at 7:54 am
    The Matildas are out.
    Lost the penalty shoot out with Norway.
    I doubt you’re interested but I thought I’d pass on the news.

    Suck on that one, Sam Kerr (who missed one of the penalty shots).

  115. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    numbers is a self admitted coward who thinks heaping abuse on anonymous posters on a blog will somehow
    redeem his yellow belly streak. sad.

  116. stackja

    Israel Folau Legal Action Fund
    $615,469 of $3.0M goal
    Raised by 8,099 people in 3 days

  117. Entropy

    Areff

    Well your faith was strong but you needed proof

    You saw her bathing on the roof
    Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew ya
    She tied you to her kitchen chair
    And she broke your throne and she cut your hair
    And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

    Public nudity, bondage and tonsorial grooming — the new spirituality!

    Hallelujah is certainly considered a “secular” hymn, but are you not aware of the stories of David and Bathsheba, and of Samson and Delilah, that this verse refers to? Lots of nudity, violence, child abuse, bondage and grooming of all kinds in Ye Old Testament.

  118. bespoke

    Andrew Bolt jumps the gun

    again.

  119. Leigh Lowe

    Suck on that one, Sam Kerr (who missed one of the penalty shots).

    Sister of Daniel Kerr, possibly among the top 10 very ordinary blokes in Perth.

  120. Entropy

    David Speers’ job application for the Insiders gig at Their ABC: an in-depth interview with Craig Laundy with brief and edited supporting clips for those those that disagreed with him in the Trumble regicide.

  121. mh

    When is John Kerry going to be tried under the Logan Act?

    Can’t believe someone like Lindsey Graham doesn’t push for it.

  122. stackja

    German mine protest: 8 police injured
    Climate change protesters broke through police lines and entered a mine in Western Germany, with 8 officers injured in the action.
    Elke Silberer and Oliver Auster, dpa, Associated Press
    35 minutes ago

    After WW2 there was a USA plan to “flooding” of the Ruhr’s coal mines. Now some Germans want an end to coal mines.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    Yup. Expect an early retirement from golden girl Sammy, immediately followed by several meth-fuelled benders involving stealing cars and ramming them into things and then glassing punters in pubs.

    This will, of course, be described as ‘a tragic fall from grace.’

  124. Tel

    Arsenic can be mobilised in chemically reducing conditions, and is a big problem in a lot of countries where tube wells were installed by well-meaning NGOs.

    Bruce, what happens with irrigation?

    You don’t find too many people drinking out of a bore unless they really have no other options, but they get used heaps for watering crops all over the place. Does that Arsenic build up in the soil?

    If you happen to have no rain water then dehydration will kill you a lot faster than a trace of Arsenic which you can easily become tolerant to, and isn’t that bad provided you get enough of the other minerals Arsenic tries to displace in the body (e.g. Iodine).

  125. Leigh Lowe

    This will, of course, be described as ‘a tragic fall from grace.’

    Or a tragic push down the stairs.

  126. cohenite

    Iran has been a much better friend of Christians than Israel.

    I laughed but that’s not funny.

  127. areff

    Entropy: Of course I know of them, but what’s he getting at? He’s invoking biblical imagery for no reason other than to allow listeners to experience a vague, unfocused spirituality due to half-remembered Sunday School lessons and the song’s sombre chords.

    For God’s sake, just sing a proper, bloody hymn, not this ersatz stuff.

  128. Geriatric Mayfly

    Oil, pistachio nuts and carpets were three exports listed as likely to hurt Iran if put under an embargo. I recall admiring a Persian carpet in Harrod’s in the seventies, with the soft sell patter coming over my left shoulder and much hand rubbing. “A splendid carpet Sir, got out before that Ayatollah chappie.” The latter had banned carpet sales to the Western infidels.

  129. Nick

    Lol what a week to come:

    Labia Maria sack successful coach just before World Cup
    Lesso star and media darling tells critics to ‘suck it up’
    Lesso star misses shootout kick
    Folau raises even more money in his fight against the ARU

    Not a great week to be a rug muncher. Just saying..

  130. Leigh Lowe

    Suck on that one, Sam Kerr (who missed one of the penalty shots).

    Media reporting very short and to the point (except for the bits devoted to bald headed flog referees).
    Just had a look.
    Suckitup Sam didn’t just miss.
    She totally butchered it.
    The coach they shunted because the ladies didn’t like his style must be having a laugh.

  131. Knuckle Dragger

    Shit Towns of Australia Update:

    Bendigo, Vic;

    Postie pisses in pot plant on parcel purchaser’s porch

  132. Nick

    It could almost be the Betoota Advocate, but it’s Fairfax:

    Kate Clayton, 22, is a Masters of International Relations student at the University of Melbourne who will be graduating in December. She’s worked throughout her degree and expects to be working full-time next year.

    She expects to earn above the salary threshold and to have to start repaying her student debt of about $60,000.

    Kate, who rents, is careful with every dollar of her spending. She hardly ever eats out and is a vegetarian because it is cheaper than eating meat.

    “The lowering of the salary threshold for the repayment of my student debt has made me question whether to pursue a PhD in the future,” she says.

    “I feel the need to seek full-time work, in order to get saving for a house deposit and to help me become more financially secure. I expect to be paying off my student debt for years,” Kate says.

  133. Nick

    The coach they shunted because the ladies didn’t like his style must be having a laugh.

    Apparently the bad man wouldn’t let players sleep with each other. The Swans seem to be able to solve that problem.

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    Does that Arsenic build up in the soil?

    Tel – The iron (and aluminium) in soil will bind the arsenic very effectively. The problem is underground water not in contact with atmospheric oxygen can get the arsenic moving out of the insoluble iron-arsenic compounds if there’s stuff like humic acid in the water.

    There’s a bit of an issue with some plants being ‘hyperaccumulators’ – they’ll extract the arsenic and put it in their leaves to keep critters from eating them. Human leaf eating critters beware.

    By and large arsenic isn’t very dangerous. But a lifetime drinking water from a high arsenic tube well can cause actual poisoning, which has been occurring in some places like Bangladesh. The NGOs have been developing simple cheap treatment methods to overcome the problem as I recall, that poor villagers can perform with available materials, but I haven’t looked at the field for a while.

  135. Leigh Lowe

    Kate Clayton, 22, is a Masters of International Relations student at the University of Melbourne who will be graduating in December. She’s worked throughout her degree and expects to be working full-time next year.

    Straight from undergraduate degree to masters.
    No clue.
    How the fuck do they pad out “International Relations” to fill four years of ‘study’?

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently the bad man wouldn’t let players sleep with each other. The Swans seem to be able to solve that problem.

    Oh?

  137. Geriatric Mayfly

    How the fuck do they pad out “International Relations” to fill four years of ‘study’?

    At least one full, very intensive year on the role of wimminzes.

  138. Nick

    It’s a joke Leigh, a joke 🙂

  139. BrettW

    Have not followed the ladies World Cup.

    However did learn that Sam Kerr might end up playing for Chelsea in the female league in UK. First I was even aware there was such a thing. Story also mentioned she might earn $1m a year.

    Naturally you have to wonder why equality has not kicked in regarding making their salaries comparable to the guys. How about they get similar money but play only 60% of the time a male match lasts. You know, like the tennis. That wouid be fair.

  140. Entropy

    Entropy: Of course I know of them, but what’s he getting at? He’s invoking biblical imagery for no reason other than to allow listeners to experience a vague, unfocused spirituality due to half-remembered Sunday School lessons and the song’s sombre chords.

    Sure. I always thought the song was about the power women can hold over men, kind of like “thank you mam, can I have another?” No matter how bad they can treat you, men still worship them.

    For God’s sake, just sing a proper, bloody hymn, not this ersatz stuff.

    Agreed. Although this song is not really ersatz. It is quite powerful. If anything it is a cry against worship. One of my daughters performs to this song at dance eisteddfords (yes usually ends up “on the podium” so to speak). The expectation is that it is a song of worship and the girls should show strong emotion. I keep my thoughts to myself.

  141. Tel

    Iran has been a much better friend of Christians than Israel.

    IT, there’s quite a few links can be found on Wikipedia such as this one:

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=22629&LangID=E

    Presuming you trust dose Wascally Wapporteurs from da UN … they have documented Christians being arrested for inviting people around to their home for Bible study or prayer. The problem the Iranian government is facing, is that if given free choice, quite a few people would convert to Christianity, but that’s illegal in Iran. It’s also illegal to encourage anyone to convert, in any way.

    Historically Iran was willing to offer shelter to Armenian refugees, but they didn’t want to hang around there, as soon as opportunity for independence came up they moved to free Armenia. Iran also offers shelter to Syriac Christian refugees, who would probably also be better off moving to Armenia.

    I mean no country is perfect, but overall Israel has done a decent job of managing all those holy sites, figuring out who can come and go without starting a fight. I have no idea why every religion needs to have a holy site right next to the other one … the they seem to like it that way. I’m sure keeping a lid on things ain’t easy to achieve.

  142. Twostix:

    If the media think they’re going to turn the public against Foleau by publishing his private financial affairs and brining in some insane sick children thing… they are very wrong.

    Bespoke:

    ‘Progressives’ get some perverted kick out of using kids to make a political point. They no there opponents try to be measured in response but it’s futile.

    Pedofragia – spelling?
    The use of children to buttress a weak argument by appealing to the emotional response of “For the kiddies.”

    The Left know exactly what they are doing, and the weakness of their pathetic argument.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3049990, posted on June 23, 2019 at 9:49 am

    It’s a joke Leigh, a joke 

    Too early Sunday.
    Speaking of Swans, I see the training-averse Buddy has blown the hammy again.
    I predict retirement is coming.

  144. IT;

    How that evil woman became a cause célèbre is repugnant. She should be in jail assembling headsets for Qantas.

    She should be in jail assembling and testing buttplugs for Qantas.
    Fixed it for you, IT.

  145. Old School Conservative

    I predict retirement is coming.

    LL, I seem to remember that his payments were heavily loaded for big payouts towards the end of Buddy’s contract. Surely a motivator to stay in the game.

  146. mh

    Can we send the Newcastle Jets under 15s boys team to the next World Cup and say they identify as female?

  147. So why do you appear to be taking sides against Boeing then?

    How is linking to a news report of a fact “taking sides?”

    But wait – this is Catallaxy……

  148. None

    Leigh Lowe

    #3049948, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:53 am

    +1

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Junior Wallabies lost by 1 point. Lezzos choked. Natural order restored.

  150. Percy Popinjay

    What about al

    Who the hell is Al?

    Hi Alan!

  151. A learned friend of mine has posted –

    Opinion……..I believe in free speech, if I want to tell everyone to fuck off, that dear friends is my right.
    It is not my right however to ask everyone to send me money so I can keep telling everyone to fuck off!

  152. Farmer Gez

    With the national team, Stajcic introduced demanding training loads that mirrored his exacting standards around performances on the pitch. He wanted his players to be tactically flexible, to be able to play numerous positions and to be as fit and fast as was humanly possible. The Herald has been told he was rarely satisfied and team talks often took on an “old school” tone. Of course, many players revelled in this. But there was a sense that those who didn’t, might not last.

    Some of these issues were raised in the two FFA surveys of staff and players that were conducted by the PFA and women’s rights group Our Watch. But when the FFA revealed evidence of a “toxic culture”, it came as a surprise to almost everyone who had been around the team over the years

    And they performed as would be expected from a team who failed to work hard enough and cried foul when asked to.

  153. bespoke

    How is linking to a news report of a fact “taking sides?”

    By regularly posting gotchas unrelated to the original 737 max problems.

    You are a petty low level troll, Numbewang, Sad!. But an insightful display of the ‘progressive’ mindset.

  154. C.L.

    Suck on that one, Sam Kerr (who missed one of the penalty shots).

    Excellent.

    I see channel Nine broadcast the women’s “State of Origin” on Friday night and the commentators had to pretend it’s really a thing. That’s got to be a long night at the mike.

  155. MatrixTransform

    A learned friend of mine has posted

    what a fecking dolt.
    PhD in false equivalence?
    taking a matter to court == telling everyone to eff off?
    Hmm, dont think so.

    You should let your fellow sandologists that the lumpy clay-like bits in the sand pit are probably cat shit.
    Also tell them to stop chewing it

  156. mh

    Dem 2020 women gone wild!

    “So when I see Donald Trump abuse the most powerful office in the world to inflict pain on the most vulnerable, it’s difficult for me to understand how someone could have such evil.”
    — Kamala Harris

  157. MatrixTransform

    A learned friend of mine has posted

    what a dolt.
    PhD in false equivalence?
    taking a matter to court == telling everyone to eff off?
    Hmm, dont think so.

    You should let your fellow sandologists that the lumpy clay-like bits in the sand pit are probably cat shit.
    Also tell them to stop chewing it

  158. Beachcomber:

    Oh really. There is no evidence, utterly none, that netball fans are even slightly concerned about Israel Folau quoting the Bible. The outrage is entirely a fabrication of the fascist left establishment, insistently expressed by their media.

    It’s a threat, Beachcomber.
    It’s aimed directly at Israel and his missus.
    Never underestimate these bastards.

  159. Ellie

    Someone mentioned AFL.
    An AFL friend sent this to me as an indication of what football used to be like before “behavioural awareness officers”.
    Warning – swear words abound

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – You’ve been going on and on fairly obsessively about Boeing for weeks now. That latest link was just one of several that you’ve been posting. Why?

  161. bespoke

    It is not my right however to ask everyone to send me money so I can keep telling everyone to fuck off!

    People can ask and people can refuse. Simple free speech doctrine.

  162. C.L.

    It is not my right however to ask everyone to send me money so I can keep telling everyone to fuck off!

    It is, actually.

  163. Robert Mc

    You are a petty low level troll

    Irony. Right there. In spades.

  164. Dr Faustus

    Israel Folau Legal Action Fund
    $615,469 of $3.0M goal
    Raised by 8,099 people in 3 days

    Will nobody think of the tsunami of QWERTY/Two Spirit self-harm and suicide now being caused by this display of bigotry?

    Surely it is time for the government to act; new laws, regulation – even a referendum.
    Something. Anything.

  165. RobK

    Mineral water found to contain minerals…
    Arsenic can also be mobilized when water tables are drawn down excessively, then allowed to recharge. This can happen by over pumping or temporary draw down for development work etc. In the Bangladesh cases, high levels of As were in the aquifer from the start and adequate testing was not done in the first place. It was a UN balls-up.

  166. Ubique

    Israel Folau Go Fund Me is now over $626k with 8,222 donors. This is the worst publicity imaginable for the clueless Kiwi Cleopatra Raelene Castle and the collection of virtue-signalling wallies who make up the RA Board.

  167. Bill Thompson

    It was 4 degrees in Southbank this morning for Outside Insiders… I’m hanging out for global warming to kick back in.

    https://youtu.be/VxmzhnPbjbw

  168. C.L.

    If you want to watch Sam Kerr’s hilarious penalty goal attempt, go to 0:17 at the video.
    Nancy Pelosi could have done better.
    The male commentator exclaims “woh, she’s put it wide.”
    That’s one way of describing it.
    LOL.

  169. An AFL friend sent this to me as an indication of what football used to be like before “behavioural awareness officers”.
    Warning – swear words abound

    FMD that was funny

  170. Tel

    How is linking to a news report of a fact “taking sides?”

    Raw prawn.

  171. Roberto

    The Matildas are out.
    Lost the penalty shoot out with Norway.

    It was the first thing the priest said at the beginning of mass this morning.

    I so dislike the modern clerical practice of starting mass with a secular aside like a comment on the weather, or a sporting result etc. They obviously all think it makes them like like ‘an ordinary bloke’. But it completely destroys any sense of the sacred ceremony when, after a processional entrance and a rousing hymn, we get a soccer bulletin.

    Then we got a homily that started with a long dissertation on how the ancient aborigines hasn’t just been hunter/gatherers – they’d also grown grain and baked bread. Endless references to academic papers and learned academics. I assumed this was going to work its way around to Jesus the Bread of Life, seeing as it’s Corpus Christi today. It did, but it took 10 minutes. I’d guess most of the congregation had long since given up listening. The only reason I was still listening was because I was fascinated by the awfulness of it all.

  172. Tel

    Israel Folau Go Fund Me is now over $626k with 8,222 donors. This is the worst publicity imaginable for the clueless Kiwi Cleopatra Raelene Castle and the collection of virtue-signalling wallies who make up the RA Board.

    That’s what it’s really about … who can demonstrate righteousness and broad support. The money is merely a means to that end.

    Thing is I don’t have that much in common with Folau and I would prefer not to pick sides, but if I am stuck in a tight corner and forced to select between a preachy fundy Christian tossing Bible quotes and a rabid pack of politically correct socialist thought police … no brainier … have to support the Christian. These guys are testing their power, and every step is just their foothold for the next step and the next, they won’t stop voluntarily.

  173. None

    C.L.

    #3049952, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:58 am

    … what gives you the precious right to demand that Pius be listed as righteous among the nationsame which is something for Jooos to determine?

    I don’t give a fuck about their academy awards. I’m talking about the state of Israel’s hatred of the heroic Pius XII and its malicious publication of the Soviet Union’s lies about him. They’ve been told to pull their heads in on the subject but refuse to do so. The reason is that Western dinner party leftists insist that Pius be ‘brought down’ (and kept down) to smear the Church (a la Pell) and Yad Vashem is not going to jeopardise the donations of Manhattan Democrats merely for the sake of historical truth.

    Pointing to other unknown – and, to the same leftists – symbolically unimportant Catholics who received the title is a meaningless, bullshit argument.

    Let me remind you what you said:

    C.L.
    #3049863, posted on June 23, 2019 at 12:54 am

    Yad Vashem, Israel’s official Holocaust memorial, has denigrated Piux XII for decades.
    All of that was based on Soviet-created lies. They have pointedly refused to confer on him the title Righteous Among the Nations, though few men saved more Juice than Pacelli.
    They can be a punch-drunk people, stubborn about moving on from established lies.
    So yes, it’s always good policy to be prudently suspicious of what they’re trying to achieve.

    It seems that you do care about their so-called Academy Awards because you wish you base your entire assessment of – now I don’t know who “they” is in your bigoted mind- as untrustworthy or as worthy of ssuspicious on that mere fact of who is not on the roll.
    And who is “they” who have been told and who told them and what right do they have to demand anyone be on the roll of the righteous? Should we demand other nations assess our trustworthiness on the basis of the contrntd of our museums? Should we change our entire foreign policy because of your fuckwitted say so?

    In fact Yad Vashem has been asking for years for the Vatican archives to be open so that they can examine the records for themselves and the Vatican has a specific policy as to when it opens archives for specific pontificates but Francis has agreed to open those on Pius XII several years early and they will be available from March next year. And I suspect it will take some years after that before details emerge. Your own Catholic church moves at the pace of millimetres over millennia so you cannot complain if others want to proceed slowly and cautiously on matters of importance to them and their own self identity. I count you as among those obnoxious Catholic triumphalists but I’ve always cut you some slack because I respected your intellect. Sadly I now find that you’re just a stock standard ignorant bigot willing to malign an entire people because of your own narrow minded self-centred Catholicism – or perhaps I should call it anti-catholicism given you are a poor representation of the religion you pretend to a espouse – and your own f****** ignorance. In fact it is quite right that the Israelis be suspicious of people like you.

  174. areff

    Entropy: I reckon it’s about anything the listener wants it to be about, hence it’s about nothing.

  175. Roberto

    C. L.

    I see channel Nine broadcast the women’s “State of Origin” on Friday night and the commentators had to pretend it’s really a thing. That’s got to be a long night at the mike.

    I was walking past North Sydney Oval on Friday night as the meagre crowd exited. It’s not a thing.

  176. None

    These guys are testing their power, and every step is just their foothold for the next step and the next, they won’t stop voluntarily.

    Correct. They probably thought it was easy to pick on a fundy Christian given the orbit somewhere on the outer reaches of normality but if they go for them, they will go for more mainline Christians next and then they’ll go for Joos and then they’ll go for anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their groupthink.

  177. C.L.

    It seems that you do care about their so-called Academy Awards …

    No, it’s simply a criterion for measuring their hatred and malice.
    Personally, I don’t care about it.
    As far as I’m concerned, the tens of millions of Christian soldiers who died defeating Hitler are all righteous, regardless of what Israel says on the subject. The very notion of Israel nominating which gentiles are righteous is condescending, supremacist garbage.

  178. None

    Roberto time to have a quiet word to your Priest.

  179. Roberto

    Nick

    “I feel the need to seek full-time work, in order to get saving for a house deposit and to help me become more financially secure. I expect to be paying off my student debt for years,” Kate says.

    Poor old Kate. She really has drawn the short straw. Imagine being expected actually to get a job, start contributing productively to society, pay her debts, save for a home and retirement…

    It’s almost as if life were real.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Hypocrisy alert this week.
    After weeks of incessant bully-pulpit smackdowns of AFL fans for slagging umpires, watch the ‘Strayan sports meeja give FIFA refs a good slagging for nobbling our gallant gals.
    I expect a recounting of great Australian sporting tragedies with the Death of Phar Lap to get a run about Tuesday, followed by Les Darcy making an appearance later in the week.
    I will be ‘aving a larf, though.

  181. None

    The very notion of Israel nominating which gentiles are righteous is condescending, supremacist garbage.

    Says the condescending supremacist Catholic.

  182. C.L. The time approaches where either a great conflict comes to be OR we just slowly sink into a maxi-orwellian/huxleyian world.

    Personally, I think the great conflict is a better alternative. When this occurs, I will gladly accept both Christians and Jews as allies.

    The ally count is rather small. Take what you can get.

  183. Leigh Lowe

    Roberto

    #3050030, posted on June 23, 2019 at 10:43 am

    The Matildas are out.
    Lost the penalty shoot out with Norway.

    It was the first thing the priest said at the beginning of mass this morning.

    Was this his entree to a sermon on unrepentant lezzos goung to hell?

  184. Roger

    Was this his entree to a sermon on unrepentant lezzos goung to hell?

    For that type of clergyman hell is reserved for the likes of Hitler and Israel Folau.

    Everyone else gets a second chance.

  185. smackdowns of AFL fans for slagging umpires,

    It has got to the stage where AFL umpiring is so bad that all betting on AFL games should be suspended.
    One of my offspring bets on AFL games and the first thing he checks is the appointed umpires.

  186. Roberto

    Leigh Lowe

    Was this his entree to a sermon on unrepentant lezzos goung to hell?

    If only. But no. We wandered in the desert for 10 minutes learning about aboriginal agrarian practices.

  187. bespoke

    The disproportional conflation of words is the trademark of crazy frightbats.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez
    #3049919, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Is it at all possible to give religion a break on Sunday please?

    It appears not.
    Although I think we are into ecclesiastical politics and measuring competitions, rather than pure theology.
    I almost want Spud to insert a story about his chaplain in Vietnam, who would bear a remarkable resemblance to Father Mulcahey from M*A*S*H.

  189. HP

    Folau shooting past $600k in 3 days.

    Andrew Bolt must be looking at this and wondering: “Did I make a mistake not appealing the verdict?”

    Yes.
    You did.

  190. Leigh Lowe

    If only. But no. We wandered in the desert for 10 minutes learning about aboriginal agrarian practices.

    Ten minutes?
    That seems an awfully long time to say “they picked berries and scraped bark”.

  191. Roger

    Jim Crow haunting Joe Biden:

    Democratic candidates piling on Biden over his past associations with segregationists as hearings on reparations for slavery begin.

  192. dover_beach

    Personally, I think the great conflict is a better alternative. When this occurs, I will gladly accept both Christians and Jews as allies.

    I don’t think CL is excluding all Jews as allies, he just believes that they are not beyond criticism where it is warranted. Same is true of Catholics.

  193. mh

    C.L.
    #3050026, posted on June 23, 2019 at 10:33 am
    If you want to watch Sam Kerr’s hilarious penalty goal attempt, go to 0:17 at the video.
    Nancy Pelosi could have done better.
    The male commentator exclaims “woh, she’s put it wide.”

    Being a privileged male, the commentator was required to find a positive from the missed penalty. Something like, ‘It wasn’t on target, but Sam Kerr got incredible distance with that penalty kick’.

  194. “Did I make a mistake [insert whatever here]?”

    Not a question that Blot ever asks.

  195. dover_beach

    Personally, I think the great conflict is a better alternative. When this occurs, I will gladly accept both Christians and [email protected] as allies.

    I don’t think CL is excluding all [email protected] as allies, he just believes that they are not beyond criticism where it is warranted. Same is true of Catholics.

  196. Stimpson J. Cat

    I see Officer None of the Pubic Police is still on patrol!!!!

    Imagine anyone actually thinking for one second that J®daism is superior to Christianity.

    Ha ha ha haha!

    There is a reason they call it Christian-J®daism you know.

    You put the most important one first, just like LGBT.

    Everyone knows this.

  197. Black Ball

    Morning all. So I read that the ladies have been jettisoned from the World Cup. Probably tune into Sports Sunday to hear Peter Fitzsimmons lecture the hoi polloi that their demise was caused by the Israel Folau distraction. I think a long lunch is in order today.

  198. Peter FitzSimons – I did not know that.

  199. Rockdoctor

    Mmmm Bendigo, went to Uni there. Used to be great for a teenager just out of school and I learned some hard knocks there as well as leaving pubs was like ringing the bell for the start of a round bit like Townsville when I moved here in the ’90’s. Heard the whole Goldfields have gone woke, even Castlemaine where I spent some nights at the Theatre Royal as a school leaver, was a real dive…

  200. Bill Thompson

    I had assumed the Insiders team might have exited via the secure carpark entrance, so I was doing an alternative spiel when Michael Rowland stepped out – thanks to Michael for stopping for a chat!

    https://youtu.be/W4v2_G43CD0

  201. Ellie

    Everyone knows this

    True, Stimpson, but what are the signs?

  202. None

    Imagine anyone actually thinking for one second that J®daism is superior to Christianity.

    Nice to see the anti-semites are out early this morning. Perhaps you like C.L. need some reminding of Jesus’ words: Salvation comes from the J–s.

  203. Roger

    areff #3049941, posted on June 23, 2019 at 8:39 am
    Are there theists yet amongst us? It seems the secularisation of belief proceeds apace. When they had the memorial service for the Black Saturday dead, rather than songs of devotion, the event’s spiritual highpoint was a choral performance of Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah”

    The collective memory formed by the Christian tradition(s) over centuries is dying, areff, along with the ability to sing in unison and in tune in public.

    What is taking its place is truly cringe worthy, as much for its inappropriateness as its quality or lack thereof.

  204. Stimpson J. Cat

    So C.L. is an Anti-Semite according to Officer None!!!

    Who knew!

  205. None

    Aussie fans have complained of a sexist alcohol ban at the Women’s World Cup, after the Matildas’ heartbreaking loss on penalties to Norway.

    Upset by their own wokeness. haha

  206. Stimpson J. Cat

    I really think you should apologize None.
    That is a terrible thing to say about him.
    Maybe go and have a lie down and stop talking to yourself for a bit, OK?

  207. the ability to sing in unison and in tune in public.

    The hymn singing at Welsh soccer matches is still ok.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #3050061, posted on June 23, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Morning all. So I read that the ladies have been jettisoned from the World Cup

    It was the gender pay gap what done it.

  209. None

    along with the ability to sing in unison and in tune in public.

    I must admitthat to be in a crowd of several thousand who spontaneously burst into song , pelting out some great Welsh hymn in fabulous four part harmony is really quite something.

  210. Numbers – You’ve been going on and on fairly obsessively about Boeing for weeks now. That latest link was just one of several that you’ve been posting. Why?

    Partly because they’ve killed 346 people by cutting corners to save money, and partly because the whole debacle reveals the contempt corporate America has for “self-regulation”.
    Given that people here posted for years about 4 people dying as an indirect result of the home insulation programme, I thought that perhaps there might be some who read this who have some sense of justice and proportionality.
    Apparently not……

  211. Roger

    The hymn singing at Welsh soccer matches is still ok.

    Yes, probably one of the last examples one can cite, though (rugby; never been to a Welsh soccer game).

    Does the Barmy Army’s singing of Jerusalem qualify? I think I’d give them a pass, but their repertoire is rather limited.

  212. Roger

    I thought that perhaps there might be some who read this who have some sense of justice and proportionality.
    Apparently not……

    Charitable chap, isn’t he?

  213. leaving pubs was like ringing the bell for the start of a round bit like Townsville when I moved here in the ’90’s.

    Bullshit.
    I lived in Townsville (opened a school there) from 1980 until 1983, and again from 1986 until 1992. There was a pub scene, but it wasn’t remarkedly different from anywhere else in regional Queensland, except that there were occasionally drunken AJs looking for trouble.
    The ADF kept them on a short leash.

  214. None

    1735099

    #3050079, posted on June 23, 2019 at 11:42 am

    We apologise for not maintaining your schedule of conspicuous compassion.

  215. Roger, reminds me of a Welsh choir singing “The Holy City”.
    Spine chilling.

  216. Nick

    After weeks of incessant bully-pulpit smackdowns of AFL fans for slagging umpires, watch the ‘Strayan sports meeja give FIFA refs a good slagging for nobbling our gallant gals.

    I love this site. So true.
    Speaking of hypocrisy, has Izzy found the bible text about ‘not painting ones’ self ‘?

  217. None

    Someone refers to Townsville in the 90s and numbers regards us with tales of his exploits in the 80s. Clearly literacy and numeracy whenever numbers’ strong point.

  218. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mmmm Bendigo, went to Uni there.

    Leaned well in your speciality I presume. Took a raw stone to Garry Whathisname in Canterbury Rd. He took out a 20c coin, made a circle on a piece of paper, and built up several ring options with various settings. Little works of art. I asked where he learned to do that. He replied, at Bendigo, under a rigorous teacher who demanded we draw fossils from every imaginable angle.

  219. Tom

    Only pig-ignorant peons blame Boeing, who didn’t kill a soul. Two cut-price shitbox Third World airlines that scrimp on crew training and flight operations elected to kill their customers.

    Notice how cut-price First World airlines like Southwest — America’s biggest domestic airline and a low-cost carrier — haven’t killed a soul flying the 737 Max-8? Because they don’t scrimp on crew training and safety.

  220. Stimpson J. Cat

    Clearly literacy and numeracy whenever numbers’ strong point.

    I really don’t think you are in a position to be lecturing anyone except yourself about literacy, literally.

  221. None

    Hey numbers. Bad weather brought town Uzbekistan Airways Flight 1154 killing all on board.  Could you give us some incessant weather reports for the next few months so that we can check your sense of Justice and proportionality?

  222. Leigh Lowe

    watch the ‘Strayan sports meeja give FIFA refs a good slagging for nobbling our gallant gals.

    I just saw the “totally snot fair” red card.
    The Norg sheila was through with only the keeper to beat and the Matilda-lezz grabbed her shirt (probably trying to cop a feel).
    Clear as day.
    The sort of thing Whately and co normally call “a blight on the game”.
    But not this week.

  223. Chris

    The hymn singing at Welsh soccer matches is still ok.

    Yes, probably one of the last examples one can cite, though

    Roger, drop into an African church…

  224. None

    I really don’t think you are in a position to be lecturing anyone except yourself about literacy, literally.

    in your case stems I would also add functional illiteracy given that you can’t distinguish between skill, technology, and literacy.

  225. Chris

    Oh, numbers is here? Who knew?

  226. Roberto

    Leigh Lowe

    Ten minutes?
    That seems an awfully long time to say “they picked berries and scraped bark”.

    Ah, no. That’s where everyone’s been getting it wrong for years. Apparently they were pioneers in the growing of crops, collection of seed, milling of grain and baking of bread. They started turning out tasty loaves thousands of years before any other civilisation.

    No doubt there’ll be a grant to some archeological team to unearth the remains of their renewable energy-sourced ovens.

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    in your case stems I would also add functional illiteracy given that you can’t distinguish between skill, technology, and literacy.

    How did exactly did you distinguish that C.L. is an Anti-Semite?
    I’m curious.
    I bet everyone is.

  228. Black Ball

    Yes! The coaching change has been raised as a possible reason for the Matilda’s demise.

  229. 1735099

    Someone refers to Townsville in the 80s…..

    In None’s alternative universe, 1990, 1991 and 1992 were in the eighties.
    Who knew?

  230. Leigh Lowe

    Ah, no. That’s where everyone’s been getting it wrong for years. Apparently they were pioneers in the growing of crops, collection of seed, milling of grain and baking of bread. They started turning out tasty loaves thousands of years before any other civilisation.

    What was their setting on the electric oven for a crunchy sourdough?

  231. Black Ball

    Ahahahahah FitzSimons suggesting that the penalty shootout be scrapped for taking a player off from each side every 2 minutes with 20 minutes remaining in the match if scores are tied. What a knob end.

  232. None

    Yes numbers two or three years in a span of several just snuck you into the 90s: I was waiting for you to come up with that. Very good. Now please tell us how you were such a dedicated educator that you left a job where you were tasked with gettinh rid of bad teachers because you preferred big dollars. We just want to get a sense of the measure of your compassion, Justice and proportionality. For your own self promotion.

  233. Some History

    More “progressive” news from Oyrlnd.

    Primary school to introduce gender neutral school uniform policy
    Wicklow school to allow boys wear skirts or girls to wear trousers

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-school-to-introduce-gender-neutral-school-uniform-policy-1.3931242

  234. None

    Dykes on strikEes #WIDEworldofsports

  235. Stimpson J. Cat

    None, don’t switch to Numbers.
    Why is C.L. an Anti-Semite?

  236. None

    Why is C.L. an Anti-Semite?

    Why are you, Stimpy?

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