Open Forum: June 29, 2019

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  1. John Constantine

    If a kid speaks English, but texts in Textlish, does that make them bilingual?.

    What percentage of their interactions have to be in the simplified text form for that limited vocabulary to become the simplified way they think?.

    Call and response, character limited?.

    If the big tech companies can create a subdialect of English, like Textlish or Twitish, can they control the concepts to be communicated in their dialect by controlling the vocabulary tools the proles can use?.

    Will translate artificial intelligence software robots control the interface between languages, and censor the flow of dissent between groups?.

    Comrades?.

  2. areff

    Sinc, delighted to accept.

  3. bespoke

    Come for tea tonight. 5 o’clock my place.

    BYO: Handcuffs.

  4. Sinclair Davidson

    I had no memory that it was advertising Skoda.

    Yep – that is the problem with the ad.

    Skoda’s are good cars. I’ve driven them a couple of times in Europe. I don’t know what the Australian models are like or pricing.

  5. Perth Trader

    RE the Skoda add. I dont care if the songs sexist….Skodas are ugly sh.tty cars .

  6. candy

    The hair-tossing and come-hither look the director has featured are most offputting.

    Some parent somewhere put the little girl up for acting in a sexualised fashion in an ad.
    shameful.

  7. John Constantine

    If you don’t comply with the permitted use of Zucklish on facereich, will they remove your ability to communicate and freeze your account of the facebook occupation currency?.

    Comrades?.

  8. Candy:

    Well, it’s on the world stage and a little conservative courtesy would not go astray.

    This is why we are losing. Courtesy and politeness to Leftists is a signal they interpret as weakness.
    If someone craps on me from a distance then tries to pretend they’re my friend when they are close, I treat them as the duplicitous bastards they are.

  9. vr

    Sinclair — Check his twitter feed.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    bespoke – I have my own hand cuffs. 🙂

  11. None

    Areff I agree that this clip is hypersexualising a child.
    It does not compare to children’s natural unaffected singing of popular songs ( compare that say to the absolutely delightful little Claire who sings songs mostly from children’s movies and always under the watchful eye of parents). Time to tell the PR guys that they got it wrong.

  12. Ellie

    BYO: Handcuffs.

    My kind of party.

  13. Fisky

    Just watch the Twitter video of Trudeau’s attempted handshake with Bolsonaro. That is some epic, epic snubbery right there. Looks him right in the face and then pointedly turns and shakes someone else’s hand. Bolsonaro is gold.

    Trudeau is not entitled to courtesy or respect. Ezra Levant has noted that he always places his hands on political women when he meets them, as some kind of dominance tactic which he apparently used in his pick-up artist days. Bolsonaro treats the little shit with deserved contempt.

  14. candy

    I don’t think it’s about Trudeau though, but doing the correct thing socially. Not pretending to be best friends or anything. Just the greeting of shaking hands in a social situation which can be done perfunctorily.

  15. None

    I know someone here who bought one of the first skodas, as a runabout car for city errands (16k?). Boxy tinny ugly little thing. Have no idea about its performance or features.

  16. bespoke

    I have my own hand cuffs.

    Not man size. 🤣

  17. 132andBush

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3066812, posted on June 30, 2019 at 1:44 pm

    bespoke – I have my own hand cuffs. 🙂

    Ahhh, so it IS that sort of blog.

  18. None

    In one sense the Skoda ad perfectly represents a Skoda car. All sorts of wrong and not quote there. The lip synching is really bad, the voice sounds like an adult pretending to be a child, and it’s trying to present an image of something that a Skoda can never deliver.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    I agree about Trudeau.
    The snivelling turd has bad-mouthed Bolsonaro non-stop since he was elected.
    I’ll bet the jerk was loudly requesting a seating move for five minutes then suddenly realised he was on camera and looking just like what he is … a nobody out of his depth, so went the handshake and got burnt.
    You can bet the slimeball would have got outside and made some cheap remark about washing his hand after the handshake to play up to the lefty media.

  20. Oh come on

    I like watching Trudeau being humiliated on the world stage. It’s satisfying, like when social autist KRudd failed epically to banter with cool kids Obama and that criminal Lula.

  21. None

    Shaking hands with a slanderer is not the correct thing socially.

  22. bespoke

    The lip synching is really bad, the voice sounds like an adult pretending to be a child, and it’s trying to present an image of something that a Skoda can never deliver.

    The point of the ad is that the car makes you look (sound) better.

  23. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Well, it’s on the world stage and a little conservative courtesy would not go astray.

    that’s the problem with many conservatives, nice guys… who always come last

  24. JC

    vr
    #3066811, posted on June 30, 2019 at 1:44 pm
    Sinclair — Check his twitter feed.

    I vaguely recall he said he was getting off Twitter.

  25. Oh come on

    I think the Rudd bomb happened at a G20 meeting, too. That’s about the only thing the G20’s good for – making inadequate leaders look ridiculous.

  26. RobK

    . When there’s a lot of breeze about, windpower comes in cheaply because it is underwritten by a RET grant curtesy of coal. When coal is driven away, things will change for the worse.
    From the AEMO just now:
    NEM spot price for electricity $/MWh
    QLD NSW SA VIC TAS
    Energy $18.54 $20.41 $17.27 $16.75 $11.34

    Unsustainable.

  27. Perth Trader

    If ya wanna buy a ugly car with embarrassing performance , buy a datsun 120y with a auto gearbox. Those things take off like a snail on anti depressants.Having said that I dont think I can afford to buy one today.

  28. Twostix

    Winston, all the Lebanese I’ve known or worked with over the years have been fantastically fine.

    I work with a raging easter european bolshevik who wants everyone here sent to prison or killed by the government.

    Nice guy at work though.

  29. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    oh god, tulsi gabbard is a hindu

  30. vr

    JC.

    I vaguely recall he said he was getting off Twitter.

    Can’t resist the siren call.

  31. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The point of the ad is that the car makes you look (sound) better.

    to whom exactly?? after how many drinks??

  32. vr

    Tulsi — is basil in sanskrit. I believe she gave Modi the Bhaghavad Gita that she took the oath on.

  33. Gab

    I have watched an ad on TV for over 6 years. Bliss.

  34. Gab

    FFS

    I HAVEN”T watched an ad on TV for over 6 years.

  35. Some History

    I have watched an ad on TV for over 6 years. Bliss.

    That’s one long ad. 🙂

  36. bespoke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3066842, posted on June 30, 2019 at 2:07 pm
    The point of the ad is that the car makes you look (sound) better.

    to whom exactly?? after how many drinks??

    At the ed of the add they drive by pedestrians. The girls actually sounds like an armadillo. “Feel” not “Look”

  37. Sinclair Davidson

    The point of the ad is that the car makes you look (sound) better.

    Okay.

    I thought it was about indulgent parents.

  38. Twostix

    I think the Rudd bomb happened at a G20 meeting, too. That’s about the only thing the G20’s good for – making inadequate leaders look ridiculous.

    Remember Rudd and Gillard?

    The least memorable PM’s since the last one that nobody remembers (Mcewen?)

  39. bespoke

    At the ed of the add

    I blame Gab 👀

  40. Steve trickler

    Big Boy will again be on the tracks…..soon.



  41. Oh come on

    oh god, tulsi gabbard is a hindu

    Who gives a shit?

  42. Tel

    Tulsi — is basil in sanskrit. I believe she gave Modi the Bhaghavad Gita that she took the oath on.

    Fawlty. What’s wrong with him?

    oh god, tulsi gabbard is a hindu

    What have you got against the Hindus?

    India might be a touch high in corruption, but they manage to understand the basic idea that you use technology to build things like power stations and improve the quality of life of your people.

  43. Gab

    My place looks like it’s been trashed, that’s what happens when one decides to clear and clear out cupboards in the spare room.

    If you don’t hear from me, send the Rescue Squad.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor’s tax stance depends on crossbench: Gallagher

    Rosie Lewis
    Reporter
    @rosieslewis
    3 minutes ago June 30, 2019
    317 Comments

    The Morrison government has demanded Labor stop its “verbal gymnastics” and support its flagship $158 billion personal income tax cuts plan, as opposition finance spokeswoman Katy Gallagher suggests her party will not finalise a position until it knows how the crossbench will vote.

    In a messy interview on Sky News today, Senator Gallagher was unable to say if Labor’s caucus — which meets tomorrow — would formalise its position on the tax cuts legislation, due to be debated when federal parliament returns this week.

    Trade Minister Simon Birmingham said Labor’s failure to support the Coalition’s full tax cut package would be a lasting “stain on the Labor Party”.

    “Labor ought to come clear, come clean tomorrow and make sure they declare that ultimately they will pass this tax relief agenda because the failure to deliver tax relief for hardworking Australians will be a stain that will haunt Labor and Anthony Albanese all the way to the next election if they block this agenda,” Senator Birmingham said.

    “I heard they might even wait to see what the position of the crossbench are until Labor makes up their mind about whether or not they’ll support our tax cuts. Well come on let’s be real. The Australian people may have decided that Labor weren’t fit for government but now they’re showing they’re not even fit to be the opposition.”

    Senator Gallagher this morning conceded Australians earning $200,000 were not the “top end of town” but insists the parliament should reject the final stage of the government’s personal income tax cuts because they do not stimulate the economy now and are too generous for high-income earners.

    Scott Morrison and Josh Frydenberg will this week try and ensure low and middle income earners quickly receive the $1080 tax cut they were promised in the April budget.

    Senator Gallagher suggested Labor would wait to see what support the government received from the Senate crossbench before deciding how to vote on the full package.

    Breaking, from the Oz. What a pack of spineless jellyfish the Labor Party really are. Take no prisoners, ScoMo

  45. Fair shake of the Sauce bottle

    I have my own hand cuffs.

    And remember your safety word: ‘ouch!’

  46. Shy Ted

    If the inevitable and completely predictable happens and Chrissy Pyne does use his inside knowledge to help his new employers gain defence contracts they can always use the politician’ fallback position that they were Ernst & Young & Naïve.

  47. None

    Senator Gallagher this morning conceded Australians earning $200,000 were not the “top end of town” but insists the parliament should reject the final stage of the government’s personal income tax cuts because they do not stimulate the economy now and are too generous for high-income earners.

    WTH. How would the mises-ly economists on this blog respond to that?

  48. None

    By the end of that Skoda ad it’s saying it’s worse than it sounds.

  49. RobK

    I have my own hand cuffs. 🙂
    A liberty rachet?

  50. Some History

    The 59-year-old[Lisa Wilkinson] enjoyed a luxury $9,400 stay, with multiple beauty treatments, at Olivia Newton-John’s Gaia retreat in Byron Bay.

    Pete the Poyret, quasi-man of the people, particularly enjoyed the cocooned body masque.

  51. Shy Ted

    Don’t go and test drive a Skoda because you might just find the perfect car. Ugly as but the Fabia Monte Carlo hot hatch is great fun and the Superb is, well, superb. VW underpinnings. Alannah Myles version of Black Velvet is my favourite and I was always under the assumption that the song was about the drink Black Velvet – Guinness and champagne, which brought me to my knees a few times. Elvis makes more sense though. It’s the suppository of all wisdom, the Cat is.

  52. Tel

    http://en.special.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/60857

    There are other issues related to that liberal idea. This idea is multifaceted, and I do not question its attractiveness on the whole, but look at the migration I have just mentioned. You see, how can one imagine that in some European countries parents are told that “Girls should not wear skirts to school for safety reasons.” What is that? Listen, people are living in their own country in their own culture. What is that? How did it get so far? This is what I was talking about.

    It has gotten too far, in my view, that this, liberal idea starts destroying itself. Millions of people live their own lives whereas those who promote those ideas, they seem to be living in their own paradigm. This is what I was saying. I don’t see anything special about it that I had not talked about earlier.

    Or, you brought up the example of Elton John. I have deep respect for him, he is a genius of a musician. In reality he comes to Russia, and we all really enjoy listening to him. I think he is mistaken. I did not give a different slant to anything here; it is true that we really have a very calm attitude towards the LGBT community. Truly, it is calm and absolutely unbiased.

    We have a law that everybody has been kicking us for – a law prohibiting homosexual propaganda among minors. But listen, let a person grow up, become an adult and then to decide who he or she is. Leave children in peace. There are so many inventions nowadays. I also said in that interview that they invented five or six genders, transformers, trans…

    You see, I do not even understand what it is.

    This is not the problem. The problem is that this part of society is aggressively imposing their view on the majority. We have to be more loyal to each other, more open and transparent. I did not say anything unusual. We have to respect everyone, that is true, but we must not impose our points of view on others. Meanwhile, representatives of the so-called liberal idea are simply forcing their ideas on others. They dictate the need for the so-called sex education. Parents are against it, and they are practically imprisoned for that. This is what I was talking about.

    We are aware of what is going on. The question was related to the way we assess the situation in our partners’ countries, I think. Yes, people are fed up with that, and this may actually account for the Trump phenomenon, when he won the election, and people’s discontent underlies it in many countries of Western Europe, when they walk out into the streets.

    This is the point. Meanwhile, everyone is looking for the reasons somewhere far away and trying to blame Russia for what is happening there. Do we have anything to do with it? Yes, there are certain polemics in the information sphere, and we have expressed our point of view about it. Don’t they do it themselves? Of course, they do, all the time. We are not making noise or getting hysterical about their constant interference in our affairs, even though their interference is present on a daily basis. But this is what has been established, the practice of international relations, unfortunately. I wish this did not happen. But there are deep reasons and they do not want to admit them. That is what I said about. I think I said nothing new because I have talked about it a number of times before.

    Not very liberal this guy, but in some ways closer to the original idea of what a liberal was all about: freedom to speak your mind even if it offends someone, and freedom to choose your own destiny. Leave the children in peace to make their own way in life.

    The right to figure things out for yourself is the only true freedom everyone shares. Go use it.

    – Robert A. Heinlein

  53. mh

    Liberty Quote
    Everyone stop, and repeat after me: There is no crisis of free speech.

    — Tim Soutphommasane

  54. old bloke

    Mitch M.

    #3066557, posted on June 30, 2019 at 5:31 am

    Another cruel trick of nature. Just before you die after years of dementia you regain lucidity so you can experience death.

    Paradoxical lucidity: A potential paradigm shift for the neurobiology and treatment of severe dementias

    One great-grandfather, a deeply religious man, was slipping away quietly for over a week, lying in bed, unresponsive, surrounded by his middle-aged adult children. He suddenly sat upright and in a loud voice proclaimed “Now we shall see thy face and hear thy wonderful voice,” then fell down, his life gone.

    Great-grandfather’s famous last words were often mention in hushed, reverent tones at family gatherings.

  55. Top Ender

    Wallabies great Peter FitzSimons has again torn Israel Folau to pieces in a heated Sunday morning rant.

    The Rugby player turned media commentator gave Folau both barrels during his appearance on Nine’s Sports Sunday, where he called a halt to the show and told producers to point the cameras his way.

    He then took a deep breath and unloaded on the sacked Wallabies star, just days after talks between the 30-year-old and Rugby Australia failed to discover a breakthrough at Friday’s Fair Work Commission conciliation meeting.

    FitzSimons seized on one Folau declaration outside that meeting in which he called for an apology from Rugby Australia following his claim that his $4 million contract was torn up unlawfully following his infamous Instagram post suggesting homosexuals were going to hell.

    FitzSimons suggested Folau owes Rugby Australia an apology having “bled” the game for millions on the back of two damaging social media posts.

    “Camera one on me. Israel Folau and your demand for an apology… mate, bring it in tight,” FitzSimons said.

    “Last year you put up a post that caused Rugby Australia to bleed for three weeks. It was a homophobic slur, biblically based, whatever.

    “Last year you put it up. Three weeks of ugly headlines. Teams losing. Supporters, sponsors running for the exit. It was a disaster.

    “Despite that, Rugby Australia signed you up for $4 million for four years. Here we are almost a year later and you put up an identical post. You put your right index finger up above it about to send. You know, and you’ve acknowledged this, at the moment you press send, you will put rugby, your team, your teammates, through exactly the same agony as last year and you (still) pressed send.

    “What happened? We’ve been engulfed by two months of this nonsense, this disaster. Millions of dollars being bled from rugby. Sponsors for the exits, members turning away. And you think rugby owes you an apology. In the words of the late (rugby league reporter) Peter Frilingos, that’ll do me. Unbelievable.”

    FitzSimons also suggested Folau’s appearance on Sky News with Alan Jones was a scripted interview where the former NRL and AFL star was treated in the same way his lawyers will feed him responses in his upcoming court case.

    “Give me a break. It was ridiculous,” FitzSimons said.

    Rugby Australia chairman Cameron Clyne also hit out at Folau recently, declaring the governing body has nothing to apologise for.

    In an interview with Nine newspapers after the two parties failed to reach an agreement over the former Wallaby’s sacking in Sydney on Friday, Mr Clyne said the game had no other option.

    “(The alternative) would be that we’d have no sponsors at all because no sponsor has indicated they would be willing to be associated with social media posts of that sort and that includes government, because we’ve also heard from them,” he said.

    “We would also potentially be in litigation with employees who are gay and who would say we’re not providing a workplace that is safe or respectful.”

    Mr Clyne also rubbished suggestions RA had been dictated to by sponsor Qantas.

    “That’s simply wrong. Sponsors have a right to associate themselves with a game they feel best represents their values, but it is absolute nonsense to suggest it was done at the behest of a sponsor,” he said.

    “Having said that I haven’t had any sponsor come forward and say they were happy with the post or happy to be associated with it. But it’s offensive to suggest we get our moral compass from someone else.”

    The dispute between Rugby Australia and Folau is destined for court after the parties failed to reach an agreement over the former Wallaby’s sacking.

    Folau’s legal team said the matter is headed for court — unless Rugby Australia shifts its position.

    “We are disappointed that we were unable to reach settlement with Rugby Australia today,” Folau’s lawyer George Haros told reporters in Sydney.

    “It appears as though that unless things change, we’ll be heading to court.”

    RA and NSW Rugby Union also said they were disappointed with the outcome.

    “We remain confident in our processes and will continue to do what is required to defend the values that underpin our game,” RA said in a statement.

    Folau had hoped RA would apologise for terminating his multi-million dollar contract over a social media post in April condemned as homophobic.

    The 30-year-old’s post paraphrased a Bible passage saying “drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters” would go to hell unless they repented.

    The committed Christian argues he was unfairly dismissed on religious grounds, and is seeking $10 million in damages from RA and wants his contract reinstated.

    An online fundraiser supported by the Australian Christian Lobby this week raised about $2.2 million to fund his legal battle.

    With AAP

    NT News complete article

  56. None

    On this issue Putin is right. It’s so delicious having a Russian leader rightly criticise the lefties for their social engineering.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What have you got against the Hindus?

    India might be a touch high in corruption, but they manage to understand the basic idea that you use technology to build things like power stations and improve the quality of life of your people.

    tulsi is part samoan and mostly european, basically a new age hippy

    what’s to like about hinduism? nothing, one of the factors that keeps india a shithole.

  58. cohenite

    Bill Thompson

    #3066719, posted on June 30, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Outside Insiders – Can you imagine their ABC EVER letting it go if a Conservative MP had been accused of rape?

    https://youtu.be/Ix6KkPg-q4k

    You’re a champ Bill.

  59. None

    Frankly I hope RA is bankrupted. The whole purpose of sport is for people from all walks of life to participate together in a contest without recourse to politics, social class, religion etc. By trying to enforce certain Values on players and employees are RA is actually betraying sport’s ethos. Let’s not go to their neglect of the grass roots clubs. I am more than happy to destroy RA. No risk of gay people suing then.

  60. Tel

    what’s to like about hinduism?

    Reincarnation must be attractive.

    If someone gave you a second chance at life I guess you would turn them down.

  61. Twostix

    The Rugby player turned media commentator gave Folau both barrels during his appearance on Nine’s Sports Sunday, where he called a halt to the show and told producers to point the cameras his way.

    “Camera one on me. Israel Folau and your demand for an apology… mate, bring it in tight,” FitzSimons said.

    Arrrrgh I’m dying of Cringe!

  62. Notafan

    I thought Fitzsimian had Folau Fatigue syndrome.

  63. None

    Describing FitzSimons as a Wallabies great is a bit of a stretch even for people like me who don’t generally follow rugby.

  64. Twostix

    Wallabies great Peter FitzSimons has again torn Israel Folau to pieces in a heated Sunday morning rant.

    If this was a normal person the media would have called it a “bizarre rant”.

  65. Notafan

    Christians get a chance at everlasting life

  66. None

    haha Nota you probably got pissed that he was beaten by Ellis in the virtual Olympics (which my phone calls toothpicks)

  67. Tel

    tulsi is part samoan and mostly european, basically a new age hippy

    Much better looking than AOC … without the crazy eyes. More pleasant voice too.

    Her economic policy isn’t great, but it’s at least within sane bounds, and her anti-war policy is more important.

  68. None

    *he probably got pissed

  69. Twostix

    “mate, bring it in tight”.

    Feast on my delicious banquet of cringe!

  70. Tel

    Christians get a chance at everlasting life

    And if you fluff that chance?

  71. dover_beach

    Wallabies great Peter FitzSimons has again torn Israel Folau to pieces in a heated Sunday morning rant.

    This is the equivalent of beating up a quadriplegic and calling it brave.

  72. Notafan

    I don’t think ‘fluffing’ is an appropriate description of your free will choice.

    On the other hand reincarnation can be good bad or worse and include animal hosts and ultimately a version of heaven or hell as far as I can tell.

    Besides which, either one is true or the other is true or both are false.

  73. Twostix

    . It was a homophobic slur, biblically based, whatever

    They’re so close to saying it. So close god how they want to say it.

    Say it!

    The bible is unacceptable hate speech in tolerant liberal modern Australia.

    Tell the everyman what how it is to be under your regime!

  74. dover_beach

    If someone gave you a second chance at life I guess you would turn them down.

    Reincarnation isn’t a second chance. It’s not like you shooting a bow at a target repeatedly learning to account for breathing, wind shifts, etc. You don’t come back with any knowledge of past errors which you can correct, which is why I think liberation is understood as the ending of the cycle.

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Remorseless Skaf gOng rOpist STILL blames his victims for the sickening string of s#x attacks that rocked Sydney almost two decades ago – as his violent life behind bars is revealed

    Morehamed Skaf, 36, has applied for parole again after being denied last year
    The Skaf gOng was behind a notorious Sydney [email protected] rampage in 2000
    The Serious Offenders Review Council labelled Skaf a ‘menace to society’

    By Karen Ruiz For Daily Mail Australia

    Published: 13:08 AEST, 30 June 2019 | Updated: 15:22 AEST, 30 June 2019

    A Skaf gOng rOpist who was jailed for his role in the [email protected] assaults of at least six girls in Sydney continues to blame his victims nearly two decades after he was convicted.

    Morehammed Skaf, 36, is serving 22 years behind bars with an 18-year non-parole period after his sentence was cut from 31 years after an appeal.

    Skaf was among 14 other Lebanese-Australian men, including his brother, who conducted brutal gOng-rOpes on schoolgirls as young as 14 in 2000.

    He is currently fighting for parole after he was denied release at the end of his non-parole period last year.

    Daily Mail.

  76. Twostix

    This is a regime that has your employer fire you for quoting the bible in your own time and claims itself to be tolerant.

    Like how the old communist regimes used to call themselves democratic.

  77. Cactus

    On what basis can Fitzsimmons be described as a Wallaby Great? He played less than 10 matches for the wallabies and is most remembered for started a violent brawl with the french that he lost.

  78. dover_beach

    They’re so close to saying it. So close god how they want to say it.

    Say it!

    The bible is unacceptable hate speech in tolerant liberal modern Australia.

    Tell the everyman what how it is to be under your regime!

    Just imagine the situation had Shorten won. You wouldn’t have the silence of Morrison, but the positive hatred of Shorten, the malevolent contempt of Mark Dreyfus, the condescending malice of Wong, and so on, all descending on Folau.

  79. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Much better looking than AOC … without the crazy eyes. More pleasant voice too.

    Her economic policy isn’t great, but it’s at least within sane bounds, and her anti-war policy is more important.

    can’t take her seriously in the slightest. knowing she chooses to be a hindu is just icing on the cake.

    JC is right she has terrible skin

  80. Twostix

    Bring it in tight, I’ve got something to say.

    Mate, mate, fair shake of the sauce bottle…

    I have a newflash for the wanker atomised bugmen: the Australian everyman doesnt actually speak like that. You’ve just watched too much shit 1990’s Australian fwootie shows and dramas

  81. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The bible is unacceptable hate speech in tolerant liberal modern Australia.

    but the koran is just dandy

  82. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    what’s to like about hinduism?

    Reincarnation must be attractive.

    If someone gave you a second chance at life I guess you would turn them down.

    but then transmigrational karma would be a bitch

  83. Some History

    Fitzy UNLEASHES on Israel Folau

    And there’s that crap term again – “homophobic”.

  84. Twostix

    Just imagine the situation had Shorten won. You wouldn’t have the silence of Morrison, but the positive hatred of Shorten, the malevolent contempt of Mark Dreyfus, the condescending malice of Wong, and so on, all descending on Folau.

    The HRC absolutely would have “weighed in” by now to determine if Foleau violated Hate Speech laws. When it regrettably found it didn’t and loudly proclaimed that a mass campaign would have been launched to update the old and outdated S18c which Labor would have Bravely listened to and taken action in response to.

    The ACL would have been investigated by the ATO and had the funds frozen already.

    It’s all there.

  85. dover_beach

    Indeed, when they say, End Homophobia or, End Transphobia, what they mean is criminalize orthodox Christianity.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Like how the old communist regimes used to call themselves democratic.

    Democratic Kampuchea, anyone?

  87. None

    Free speech and the marketplace of ideas. Some of the comments suggest totally free speech and a totally free marketplace of ideas are actually … undesirable … https://quillette.com/2019/06/24/what-defenders-and-critics-get-wrong-about-the-marketplace-of-ideas/

  88. None

    By the way Quillette editor Andy Ngo has just been bashed really severely by an Antifa mob in Portland after having cups of quick drying cement thrown at him. He has just been admitted into hospital with a brain bleed. Fucking thugs.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My place looks like it’s been trashed, that’s what happens when one decides to clear and clear out cupboards in the spare room.

    Yes, commiserations Gab. Our place is similar, with bits of kitchen paraphernalia littered around the spare rooms like some weird garage sale or conceptual art show. It’s strip-out day tomorrow. Starting at 7am a team of burly blokes will descend on our place with crowbars and bash up my existing cupboards and cart them to a skip outside. So sad, really, as they are in quite good condition. Stove, fridge, rangehood, mixer tap and microwave will go to rellies for re-use. I have too much stuff; we will have to do a cull so that the new cupboards don’t get equally cluttered.

    The project manager of this job has it organized like a military operation. We have the running sheet, which simply makes me want to run and come back when it is all done. I’m scared to do that though because they might get it all wrong. My daughter did that; disappeared to an Airbnb in Noosa with her husband and two little children and put her trust in the supervising Kitchen Overlord. I don’t have her chutzpah though. Or perhaps her inexperience. Hairy and I have put in quite a few new kitchens in various places and we know only too well what can go wrong.

    Cassie, I still have your large Tupperware cake container. Keeping it locked in the garage away from the thieving hands of my rellies on the prowl till you collect it or till next Cat drinkies, when I’ll offer to drive you home with it in the car. Hairy wouldn’t know it from any other piece, even if I told him, and he’s keen to offload as much of this old kitchen stuff as he can, so’s I can open the Christmas present of the great mixer, mincer, dicer, slicer and blender set he gave me two Christmases ago now. There’s been no room for it to date (my excuse, anyway). 🙂

  90. Pedro the Ignorant

    I have led a sheltered life.
    What does Pirate Pete’s blather “bring it in tight” mean in English?

    (No filthy answers please, it is Sunday).

  91. None

    Re: democratic kampuchea. From the free speech article I just linked to:

    A common characteristic of non-descriptive speech is the use of inverted concepts—concepts that redefine words in order to destroy their original and intended meanings. For example, Hitler redefined democracy to mean the “free choice of the Leader, along with his obligation to assume entire responsibility for all he does and causes to be done.” This helped to justify authoritarianism by using the language of representative government. This perversion of speech, Stanley argues, is insidious and profoundly corrosive to public discourse.

  92. mh

    What does Pirate Pete’s blather “bring it in tight” mean in English?

    And does he say that to Lisa Wilkinson?

  93. jupes

    Trudeau:

    That cringey trip to India did his credibility irreparable damage.

    That could have been an episode of the Goodies.

  94. Some History

    A common characteristic of non-descriptive speech is the use of inverted concepts—concepts that redefine words in order to destroy their original and intended meanings.

    For example, “gay”, “rainbow colours”, “gender”, “identity”, “marriage”, and the one that protects questioning of the former – “homophobia”.

  95. Frank

    And does he say that to Lisa Wilkinson?

    No.

  96. mh

    Journalist Andy Ngo Assaulted by Antifa Protesters in Portland

    …He later live-streamed a video of himself describing the assault. His face is scratched and he has blood on his neck. A police officer is heard interviewing him on the livestream.

    “I just got beat up by the crowd, with no police at all, in the middle of the street,” Ngo said during the livestream.

    “Where the hell were all of you,” he is heard asking the police officer. He is also heard saying he was assaulted twice earlier in the day, and reported both incidents to the police with no response…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/29/journalist-andy-ngo-assaulted-by-antifa-protesters-in-portland/

  97. The Countess

    On “bring it in tight”
    I think it’s an instruction to the cameraman to focus in tightly on Bandana Man, so very little background and with his face filling the screen. Could be wrong.

  98. None

    Sea captain held after ‘act of war’ in Italy

    The Sea-Watch 3’s German captain Carola Rackete is arrested by Italian police in the Italian port of Lampedusa, Sicily, after a lengthy standoff.

    By PETER CONRADITHE TIMES7:00AM JUNE 30, 20191

    Italian police arrested a German sea captain after she landed dozens of African migrants on the southern Mediterranean island of Lampedusa yesterday.

    The move provoked outrage from human rights groups and glee from Matteo Salvini, the hard line interior minister.

    Carola Rackete, 31, who had been locked in a two-week standoff at sea with Italian authorities that drew worldwide attention, was led away in handcuffs as rival groups applauded and jeered her from the quay side.

    Faces 10 years in jail. Yes. #winning

  99. Tel

    JC is right she has terrible skin

    She’s genetically adapted to beach, sun and surfing … living in the Washington swamp is less than ideal but we all must make compromises.

  100. None

    What Countess said, Pedro. Although you need a wide angle lens for a tight head shot of Peter Fitzsimons. #wanker

  101. Mitch M.

    Reincarnation isn’t a second chance. It’s not like you shooting a bow at a target repeatedly learning to account for breathing, wind shifts, etc. You don’t come back with any knowledge of past errors which you can correct, which is why I think liberation is understood as the ending of the cycle.

    There is a Buddhist saying that if you commit too many sins you will be reincarnated as a woman. So now we must ban Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and any scientific literature which argues that there are ethnic differences in genes and metabolism.

    I commend those who watched Bandana Man’s rant. More tolerant than me.

  102. None

    My turn:
    What does the blue teardrop shape mean on Twitter handles? Today’s designated crybaby victim group?

  103. zyconoclast

    Journalist Andy Ngo Assaulted by Antifa Protesters in Portland

    Not even being gay & Asian gives you enough points on the diversity totem to protect you

  104. Some History

    • Extreme Wide Shot (Extreme Long Shot) …
    • Wide Shot (WS) or Long Shot (LS) …
    • Medium Shot (MS) …
    • Close-Up (CU) …
    • Extreme Close Up (ECU / XCU) …
    • Point of View (POV)

    https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/7-standard-filmmaking-shots-every-cinematographer-must-know/

    “Mate, bring it in tight” would refer to a “close up” to “extreme close-up”.

  105. vr

    JC is right she has terrible skin

    Those are just acne scars.

  106. Tel

    Reincarnation isn’t a second chance. It’s not like you shooting a bow at a target repeatedly learning to account for breathing, wind shifts, etc. You don’t come back with any knowledge of past errors which you can correct, which is why I think liberation is understood as the ending of the cycle.

    How can you be sure that you haven’t been born with a certain amount of innate knowledge?

    Do you personally remember figuring out how to see, or to speak? You just started doing those things.

    In the same way, some people are attracted to religion and prayer, others are attracted to abstract logic, others are attracted to emotional outburst, others to dominance and power. What method do you use to figure out the person you might have been but aren’t? At best you can only see what person you are, and even that is difficult to not fool yourself over.

  107. Leigh Lowe

    Wallabies (cough) “great” * Bandana Man cops it from Ian Chappell.
    .
    * “Great” = 7 caps in the semi-professional era of the late 1980’s.

  108. Some History

    “Mate, bring it in tight” would refer to a “close up” to “extreme close-up”.

    The Poyret most probably spoke to the camera operator earlier:

    “Make sure there’s no-one else in the shot. Just me. It’s my moment. I want you in tight but try to get at least some of my bandana in the shot”.

  109. zyconoclast

    The Treatment of Migrants Likely ‘Meets the Definition of a Mass Atrocity’

    Children are suffering and dying. The fastest way to stop it is to make sure those responsible, including the foot soldiers, face consequences.

    Here is what that might look like:

    The identities of the individual Customs and Border Protection agents who are physically separating children from their families and staffing the detention centers are not undiscoverable. Immigration lawyers have agent names; journalists reporting at the border have names, photos and even videos. These agents’ actions should be publicized, particularly in their home communities.

  110. Tel

    Just imagine the situation had Shorten won. You wouldn’t have the silence of Morrison, but the positive hatred of Shorten, the malevolent contempt of Mark Dreyfus, the condescending malice of Wong, and so on, all descending on Folau.

    Like twisting your ankle while dodging bullets.

  111. vr

    Reincarnation isn’t a second chance. It’s not like you shooting a bow at a target repeatedly learning to account for breathing, wind shifts, etc. You don’t come back with any knowledge of past errors which you can correct, which is why I think liberation is understood as the ending of the cycle.

    This is samsara — the circle of birth and rebirth. I don’t believe, and I could be wrong, that when you are reborn you have innate knowledge of your actions in the past life. Everyone aspires to get out of this cycle and attain moksha.

    need to read up on the upanishads on this.

  112. Some History

    Children are suffering and dying. The fastest way to stop it is to make sure those responsible, including the foot soldiers, face consequences.

    They could start by identifying the atrocities and those responsible here:

  113. C.L.

    You just know that Margaret Cuneen now wants to free the Skaf gang’s ringleaders to signal to leftists that she’s not such a bad person, despite her prosecution of them. She must suffer at dinner parties and the like when she’s introduced by some ‘oaf’ as the woman who jailed the Skafs.

  114. bespoke

    Notafan
    #3066896, posted on June 30, 2019 at 3:33 pm
    On the other hand reincarnation can be good bad or worse and include animal hosts and ultimately a version of heaven or hell as far as I can tell.

    Fact check: Armadillo.

  115. Caveman

    What does Pirate Pete’s blather “bring it in tight” mean in English?

    Its old pirate slang , getting close to another ship to board and loot its treasure.

  116. stackja

    1984 newspeak now routinely used by leftists. MSM of course follow suit.

  117. Eyrie

    The Russians including Vlad aren’t our enemy. The worst part of the whole stupid democrat (BIRM) collusion story is that it has stopped The Don and Vlad from doing a deal and putting some really bad actors underground.

  118. Zippy:
    can’t take her seriously in the slightest. knowing she chooses to be a hindu is just icing on the cake.
    JC is right she has terrible skin.
    Nothing that a course of Roaccutane taken orally wouldn’t fix.

  119. Dr Fred Lenin

    All this nonsense about US “concentration camps for Criminal Illegal Entrants is rubbish , if the US had a small Auschwitz style camp on the border they wouldnt have a problem with “criminal illegal entrants “ they wouldnt =come within miles of the border . Love that descripon , says it alll , they are not migrants Who go throghthe proper channels , and it is a criminal offence to enter a country without proper documentation . I hope Donald picks up this description it would cause lefty heads to explode everywhere .
    We have them too ,CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ENTRANTS , courtesy the alp clowns .

  120. wivenhoe

    What does Pirate Pete’s blather “bring it in tight” mean in English?

    I thought it was a rugby scrum term meaning come in harder and squeeze my arse tighter..silly me.

  121. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Skaf slime and their incarceration provoked a few choice observations about our justice system from that old Mo o z l y stalwart, Sheik Hilaly. Maybe in his exile, he is briefing Cuneen on the finer points of Sharia law and the license it offers in regard to infidel women.

  122. None

    OMG that video on AOC is hilarious. AOC is a total arse clown. Worse than Pallywood.
    It looked like Paul could barely contain his laughter in some shots eithe.

  123. None

    Cunneen is probably seeking pre-selection for the Labor Party.

  124. John64

    I’m pretty sure I know how I would react to being on the receiving end of a dressing-down from a 58 year-old wearing a red bandanna………

    “Bring it in tight.” What a wanker.

  125. cohenite

    What does Pirate Pete’s blather “bring it in tight” mean in English?

    It means he is gay and likes tight bottoms.

  126. None

    Devine is taking a swipe at Cameron Clyde. Can’t read it yet but I hope she’s slapping him around a bit. I’m certainly planning on writing to that idiot.

  127. Some History

    I thought it was a rugby scrum term meaning come in harder and squeeze my arse tighter..silly me.

    Could someone explain what’s going on here – middle of the picture, player in green on right.

    https://imgur.com/I15Wwbq

  128. dover_beach

    How can you be sure that you haven’t been born with a certain amount of innate knowledge?

    Do you personally remember figuring out how to see, or to speak? You just started doing those things.

    Speaking and sight are powers, not a type of knowledge. Nor do I think I, or we, just started speaking. Our power of speech starts at a very low base and it becomes more sophisticated with practice, as we learn words, phrases, grammar, and so on. If reincarnation were true, why do we not recall any of this content?

  129. Geriatric Mayfly

    It means he is gay and likes tight bottoms.

    Close. Why not go the full distance and surmise that it might refer to that celebrated finger up the cloaca.

  130. Leigh Lowe

    Just imagine the situation had Shorten won. You wouldn’t have the silence of Morrison, but the positive hatred of Shorten, the malevolent contempt of Mark Dreyfus, the condescending malice of Wong, and so on, all descending on Folau.

    Exactly DB.
    I know plenty here are less than impressed with ScoMo’s lack of 100% purity, but Shorten would be infinitely worse on so many fronts, including this one.
    I wonder if RA might not have been given a wink and a nod by the “incoming regime” that they would have plenty of heavyweight government cover if they fired Folau.
    This might also mean that the tracks within RA and Quaintarse might not have been covered as diligently as they might otherwise have been.
    Very similar to the very mouthy Mr Stzrok and Ms Page, thinking Hilarious Crimton had the 2016 election in the bag.

  131. mh

    I doubt Israel Folau even knows who Peter FitzSimons is.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly

    More golden moments. They come tripping on on another’s heels.

    President Donald Trump taunted Jim Acosta on Saturday after the CNN journalist returned to the beat after promoting his book. Acosta asked if Trump purposely ignored a journalist’s question about the death of Jamal Khashoggi during a meeting with Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman because he was afraid of offending him. “No, not at all,” Trump replied. “I don’t really care about offending people, I sort of thought you’d know that.”

  133. None

    Someone should send FitzSimons a butt plug and tell him to shove it in his pie hole.

  134. None

    I don’t think Clare Harvey realises just how unattractive a woman touting for sodomy is.

  135. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    This is samsara — the circle of birth and rebirth. I don’t believe, and I could be wrong, that when you are reborn you have innate knowledge of your actions in the past life.

    some buddhists seem to think you may retain some memories in the womb, but that is obviously untestable. They also explain that one life is the cause for the next rather than actual transmigration as there is no soul in buddhism that migrates from one body to the next.

    wasn’t it nazis that latched on to eternal return, symbolised by the swastika, which implied that nothing really changes

  136. Cassie of Sydney

    “Oh come on
    #3066766, posted on June 30, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Just watch the Twitter video of Trudeau’s attempted handshake with Bolsonaro. That is some epic, epic snubbery right there. Looks him right in the face and then pointedly turns and shakes someone else’s hand. Bolsonaro is gold.”

    Thanks for that…I really enjoyed watching Bolsonaro snub the child. As I have said many times….it’s time to throw the smears back in their faces.

  137. zyconoclast

    Someone should send FitzSimons a butt plug and tell him to shove it in his pie hole.

    After first inserting it to where it actually belongs.
    You know it makes sense.

  138. bespoke

    dover_beach
    #3066967, posted on June 30, 2019 at 5:22 pm
    How can you be sure that you haven’t been born with a certain amount of innate knowledge?

    Do you personally remember figuring out how to see, or to speak? You just started doing those things.

    Speaking and sight are powers, not a type of knowledge. Nor do I think I, or we, just started speaking. Our power of speech starts at a very low base and it becomes more sophisticated with practice, as we learn words, phrases, grammar, and so on. If reincarnation were true, why do we not recall any of this content?

    Mitch posted a paper on this very thing. Inherited memory’s.

  139. zyconoclast

    THE BBC covered up a Boris Johnson outburst in which he accused the French of being ‘turds’ over Brexit.

    The crude remark, made when he was foreign secretary, was supposed to feature in a fly-on-the-wall TV documentary.

    But the Foreign Office successfully begged for it to be cut, according to insiders. The claim is corroborated by a leaked Whitehall memo seen by the Mail. It said the gaffe would make Anglo-French relations ‘awkward’.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    Peter FitzSimons.
    Rugby grate.

  141. Mitch M.

    Mitch posted a paper on this very thing. Inherited memory’s.

    Bespoke those studies relate to memories of sensations not abstract knowledge. Eg. rmemebering that a smell is associated with something dangerous. That is remembered but it is sensory memory.

  142. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3066974, posted on June 30, 2019 at 5:31 pm
    I don’t think Clare Harvey realises just how unattractive a woman touting for sodomy is.”

    None…today is the last day of my full Telegraph subscription……so today I read the article written by Harvey. It confirms to me yet again why I cancelled my DT subscription last Monday and why I will NEVER resubscribe. The article is a disgrace…..a vindictive and vicious attack on Folau. The only point of the article is to attack, smear and assassinate Folau. I wouldn’t even resubscribe for one cent a week.

  143. Mitch M.

    If reincarnation were true, why do we not recall any of this content?

    There are some very puzzling examples of children, typically very young, who have claimed to remembered experiences from past lives and when investigated the accuracy of their claims could not be dismissed as chance or being instructed by the parents. That does not argue for reincarnation, other possibilities might explain those memories but are as esoteric as reincarnation. In some cases it could be fraud, it could be coaching by parents, or flukes, but at present I have read accounts where that seems extremely unlikely. In any event asking for proof of a religious belief is dangerous because many fundamental religious beliefs are beyond proof.

  144. bespoke

    Mitch M.
    #3066981, posted on June 30, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    Mitch posted a paper on this very thing. Inherited memory’s.

    Bespoke those studies relate to memories of sensations not abstract knowledge. Eg. rmemebering that a smell is associated with something dangerous. That is remembered but it is sensory memory.

    Cheers Mitch, so basically it’s what people call instinct?

  145. None

    Why am I not surprised to hear that Cassie (I can’t access that one but I guess it would be such based on her previous form). I’m thinking of one gay man who I knew for many years, and worked fot for a while, not a nice man by long shot, but you could sometimes get him to let his guard down and speak truthfully.
    He would call women like Claire Harvey “fag hags”.

  146. Some History:

    For example, “gay”, “rainbow colours”, “gender”, “identity”, “marriage”, and the one that protects questioning of the former – “homophobia”.

    Not in quite the same context, but one of the kiddies books referred to several days ago was “The Boy With The Rainbow Heart.”

  147. None

    It’s been a lot of work done on memory and episodic memory is extremely malleable. This is why I particularily despise the verdict against Cardinal Pell based on the absolutely unreliable memory of one person allegedly traumatized some 25 years ago without any corroborating evidence or witness.

  148. Mitch M.

    Cheers Mitch, so basically it’s what people call instinct?

    Not really. Instinct is vague concept. Sorry to be pedantic but instinct is a problematic idea. Those memories are not universal in organisms because they relate to learned behaviors rather than instinctual behaviors. This is very new but now appears well substantiated. It raises some very difficult questions about evolution and behavior that we are a long way from addressing.

  149. Tiny Dancer

    Twitter engaging in an Olympic class circle jerk of hate for the Don in Nth Korea. Even more entertaining than fat m0ron’s most fatuous moments

  150. Mitch M.

    It’s been a lot of work done on memory and episodic memory is extremely malleable. This is why I particularily despise the verdict against Cardinal Pell based on the absolutely unreliable memory of one person allegedly traumatized some 25 years ago without any corroborating evidence or witness.

    There are plenty of studies on the dubious quality of eye witness accounts, so dubious it would not pass the “beyond reasonable doubt” standard. There are even more worrying studies on how easy it is to implant false memories in people and I suspect we do that to ourselves all too often and mostly unconsciously.

  151. cohenite

    Speaking of snubs and the Brazilian the toy-boy got was a beauty but here is Trump snubbing that hag may.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tony
    21 minutes ago
    Was that the sound of NK artillery firing? Nuh, just leftists’ heads exploding en masse. The first ever US President to set foot in North Korea!
    Now watch the insane US media screaming inanities as they try to cope with their rage

    Comment from the Oz.

  153. Nick

    Had it been Obama in Korea……..

  154. None

    Agree Mitch.
    There are also increasing numbers of Studies on collaborative remembering such as parent- child, or husband wife. Very young children are very much influenced by their mothers as to what and how they remember and that is also tempered by culture. If you asked an American what’s theit earliest childhood memory ot is likely to be something they did like the first time they did up their shoelaces, whereas if you asked say a Chinese person they’d probably remember something their grandfather did. Memories are not a video recording which you then pull out at will.

  155. custard

    Just been watching the interaction between the combined secret service of the USA, South Korea and North Korea. Lol.

    Another diplomatic win from DJT I think. The handshake and Trump standing in North Korea will be the biggest news item in the world today/tomorrow.

  156. Geriatric Mayfly

    Speaking of snubs and the Brazilian the toy-boy got was a beauty but here is Trump snubbing that hag may.

    Why are there four goblets on the tables? Surely they don’t get on the piss while negotiating. Or is it that vintage premier cru mineral water is all the rage?

  157. None

    What was the advice that Trump gave me about brexit which she ignored?
    Also because I haven’t been arsed looking, does the UK have a new p.m. yet?

  158. vr

    Check out this moving letter from the 9/11 memorial about the white roses that are placed on names at the 9/11 memorial in NYC.

    Tunku Varadarajan’s “Once More to Ground Zero” (op-ed, June 18) is a moving and warm tribute to the role of the 9/11 Memorial in New York City, and touched on an essential aspect of the memorial as a place of healing in addition to a place of honor and tribute to those killed.

    A note on Mr. Varadarajan’s reference to the single white rose he saw placed in one woman’s name: The rose in this case wasn’t placed by a “family member or friend” as he thought, but rather a member of our staff. Each morning one of our Visitors Services staff members places white roses in the names of those whose birthdays fall on that day. These flowers are generously donated by Mikey “Flowers” Collarone of Floratech, a downtown florist and former emergency medical technician who responded on 9/11.

    Family members have an opportunity to request a photo of the rose if they are unable to visit on the birthday of their loved one. This gesture, conceived by a volunteer in 2013, is a way for families to know their loved ones are remembered on their birthday and for our guests to learn about the 2,977 people killed on Sept. 11, 2001 and the six killed on Feb. 26, 1993, just as Mr. Varadarajan did.

    Kate Monaghan Connolly
    9/11 Memorial & Museum
    New York

  159. bespoke

    Mitch M

    So what explains a baby knowing how to swim or a dog protecting kittens.

  160. Nick

    Mitch M, read Michael Newton’s ‘journey of souls’. It’s fascinating

  161. None

    From a couple of days ago:

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump

    ·

    Jun 28

    I am in Japan at the G-20, representing our Country well, but I heard it was not a good day for Sleepy Joe or Crazy Bernie. One is exhausted, the other is nuts – so what’s the big deal?

  162. MatrixTransform

    babies know how to swim?

    there goes the pool fence industry

  163. Mitch M.

    Mitch M

    So what explains a baby knowing how to swim or a dog protecting kittens.

    Instinct exists but we need to be careful about we deem as instinct. A dog protecting kittens is not something we would see in wild animals, at least not all the time. It may be instinctual in some cases but in the case of domesticated animals I suspect it is often a learned behavior. Most mammals can walk straight after birth. That is instinctual. Birds singing? I suggest the songs have regional variations.

  164. Mitch M.

    Mitch M, read Michael Newton’s ‘journey of souls’. It’s fascinating

    Thanks Nick. The subject is not something I have closely looked at but I have read accounts recorded by many professional people whose rigour and objectivity I have no good reason to discount. It can be dangerous for professional people to investigate these matters because they can be subject to ostracism for even entertaining the ideas. Scientists can be very close minded about metaphysical matters. It has even been argued that Bell’s famous theorem was long neglected because it was too physical. I don’t think materialism is adequate but it is an operating assumption for most scientists. By way of example recently I chanced across a lecture at the Dawkins Centre for Unbridled Intellectual Hubris where the guest speaker was a neuroscientist claiming he could scientifically explain why we have religious belief. Didn’t watch it, no need, neuroscience can’t explain most behaviors let alone such complex behaviors.

  165. Mitch M.

    Dog protecting kittens?

    There are innumerable examples of domesticated animals caring for animals that in the wild are typically and possibly instinctually regarded as enemies. What they may demonstrate is that even instinctual behaviors can be subject to modification.

  166. Tel

    This disctinction between a “power” and “knowledge” is somewhat questionable.

    Does Tiger Woods have the “power” of golf? Or did he learn to play golf?

    Why is Tiger Woods better than most people?

  167. None

    Sensory memory has got nothing to do with Instinct.
    Sensory memory is more like working memory in that it’s very short term. So it may be something like remembering enough sounds of a word in order to decipher what has been said you need this form of memory for language). A parallell from working memory would be remembering enough digits to key them on a phone.
    Instinct relates to some sort of innate behaviours that are not dependent on sensory input even though such behaviours can be modified in response to sensory stimuli full stop so things like spider spinning a web.

  168. max

    Hindu castes are another horrible aspect of that belief system. It justifies all sorts of cruelty.

    And karma. You’ve got Parkinson’s ? Something you did in a previous life so suck it up, you sinner.

  169. Geriatric Mayfly

    Jackal incoming. Mother lechwe hides calf in long grass, and undertakes manoeuvres to draw jackal away.
    The calf neither moves nor calls whilst the adult is absent. Observing this, I wondered as to how one, barely born, knows survival behaviour when danger circles.

  170. dover_beach

    So what explains a baby knowing how to swim or a dog protecting kittens.

    The ‘know’ there is ambiguous. I can also digest food, that doesn’t mean I ‘know’ how to digest food in the same sense that I know that the Holodomor occurred in Ukraine.

  171. Eyrie

    “Observing this, I wondered as to how one, barely born, knows survival behaviour when danger circles.”
    The ones that didn’t gene line died out.

  172. Nick

    Mitch M, you can get the pdf version for free on the inter webs.

  173. None

    That’s great videos zippy just hearing the absolute shutter crazy and journos going ape shit for theit shot

  174. dover_beach

    This disctinction between a “power” and “knowledge” is somewhat questionable.

    Does Tiger Woods have the “power” of golf? Or did he learn to play golf?

    Not at all. Tiger Woods has powers of movement, he learned how to play golf by exercising those powers repeatedly. Most of what makes him a great golfer are inarticulable, and even if heo r anyone else could articulate it, receiving it, as such, would not make you also a great golfer.

  175. None

    Fatboy Junior looks like a nervous teenager. Trump is just playing this so well.

  176. Tel

    https://gabbard.house.gov/rep-tulsi-gabbard-letter-california-state-board-education

    3. Accurately represent the caste-system in the Framework by not depicting it as a defining feature or a foundational religious belief of Hinduism. While caste-based discrimination is a reality that must be dealt with, it goes against the essence of Hindu teachings and scriptures, which posit that divinity is inherent in all beings. As a result, it is critical that the Chapter 10, Grade 6 (p. 221, lines 955-957) should be changed to: “Teachers should make clear to students that this was a social and cultural structure, rather than a foundational religious belief.”

    Interesting how “cultural” becomes the place where we put things that might be inconvenient when placed in “religion”.

    At any rate modern Hindus typically don’t encourage caste segregation. She’s right that all religions/cultures have deployed some kind of discrimination in the past … Christian societies operated with serfdom for a very long time … although most modern Christians don’t support a return to that.

    More realistic to say that both religion and culture go hand in hand, but they change over time, and they have changed so we should accept that.

  177. Tel

    Not at all. Tiger Woods has powers of movement, he learned how to play golf by exercising those powers repeatedly.

    Why did he learn so rapidly, when others find it difficult?

  178. MatrixTransform

    3066764, posted on June 30, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    Hmmm…. I think I like Parler

  179. Mitch M.

    Sensory memory has got nothing to do with Instinct.
    Sensory memory is more like working memory in that it’s very short term. So it may be something like remembering enough sounds of a word in order to decipher what has been said you need this form of memory for language). A parallell from working memory would be remembering enough digits to key them on a phone.
    Instinct relates to some sort of innate behaviours that are not dependent on sensory input even though such behaviours can be modified in response to sensory stimuli full stop so things like spider spinning a web.

    Sensory memory is precisely what instinct is about because it is via across generation sensory memory that is instinct. The instinct is encoded long term in sensory memory otherwise the organism would never respond to to the relevant stimuli. Even motor behavior is contingent on sensory memory(cf. proprioception). As for your ruminations about working memory: completely irrelevant.

  180. Frank

    Trudeau … Bolsonaro treats the little shit with deserved contempt.

    Did Trudeau engage in some snide agitprop at his expense at any point? He pulled some mean girls prank on Trump when the last global shindig was being held in Canada a few years ago. Seems keen to go for the late night live applause lines and then wonders why they received no favours later from the butt of the joke, ie: the NAFTA thing.

  181. None

    We recently had dinner with an Indian couple visiting from overseas and they were telling us there’s no such thing is Indian culture separate to Hinduism. They’re one and the same. This presents particular challenges for people like them who were non Hindus for generations.

  182. None

    No sensory memory is totally short term and based on what it says sensory stimuli. What you’re thinking of and possibly confusing it with this genetic memory which relates to behaviours.

  183. Mitch M.

    No sensory memory is totally short term and based on what it says sensory stimuli. What you’re thinking of and possibly confusing it with this genetic memory which relates to behaviours

    So every time you eat it is a new sensation?

  184. Geriatric Mayfly

    Zippy’s video is missing a vital component. Where are all those military flunkies standing around Kim il Phuc with their cheap biros and notepads?

  185. Tel

    … no such thing is Indian culture separate to Hinduism.

    Enjoy a good hot curry, did you?

    Try reminding them that chilli was provided by European explorers only a few hundred years ago … brought across from the New World.

  186. None

    His translator had a biro geriatric.

  187. Crossie

    None
    #3066974, posted on June 30, 2019 at 5:31 pm
    I don’t think Clare Harvey realises just how unattractive a woman touting for sodomy is.

    Here are a few gems from this holier-than-thou Christian:

    “In good news, now we know how many hard-core homophobes there are in Australia. Roughly 20,000: the number who donated to Israel Folau’s bogus fund-raising page, hosted by the Australian Christian Lobby …”

    “Here’s the truth: I’m more of a Christian than Israel Folau is. I’m more of a Christian than anyone at the Australian Christian Lobby — and I don’t even go to church.”

    And it went downhill from there.

  188. None

    Good grief tell I never had you down as one of these shallow lefties that reduce people down to food. Leave that sort of f****** idiocy to the lefty multi culti’s please.

  189. None

    Good lord Claire Harvey is a f****** lunatic

  190. None

    What? Wrong question Mitch.

  191. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Instinct relates to some sort of innate behaviours that are not dependent on sensory input even though such behaviours can be modified in response to sensory stimuli full stop so things like spider spinning a web.

    the environment and food all have ability to activate and deactivate specific parts of dna. that in itself creates an environmental blueprint that may get passed on. I would argue that instincts and such innate expectations and patterns of behaviour are multi generational patterns of activations and deactivations that have become baked into dna. we are certainly not tabula rasa at birth.

    speaking of which the science of epigenetics has progressed substantially in the last few years. 23andme data (and others) can now be processed by host of analysis tools that spit out various reports.

    some of these are not ready for prime time and based on insuficient studies or best/worst case analysis but…

    one that I did find interesting was strategene. shows SNP mutations in context to biological pathways and concomitant outcomes. I found these to be surprisingly accurate, scarily so. you need a biochemistry and medical degree to interpret the report, however the author has a book which covers the most common and important variations and dumbs it all down for general consumption.

    this is the future of medicine, throw some serious AI at the data to interpret the cycles, pathways and feedback loops in relation to your genetics, current test results and truly personalised medicine isn’t far away. not just curative medicine but preventative medicine.

  192. stackja

    Israel Folau (@IzzyFolau) · Twitter
    https://twitter.com/IzzyFolau
    Hey everyone I totally agree with @bairdjulia – please stop the anonymous online attacks on @MagdaSzubanski who has entered this debate very respectfully. She is entitled to express her views – let’s all have this important discussion with love in our hearts.

  193. Muddy

    Bill Thompson
    #3066719, posted on June 30, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Outside Insiders – Can you imagine their ABC EVER letting it go if a Conservative MP had been accused of rape?

    https://youtu.be/Ix6KkPg-q4k

    More good work from Bill.

  194. MatrixTransform

    the environment and food all have ability to activate and deactivate specific parts of dna

    vis … me and whiskey

  195. Muddy

    Acka Dacka theme music for Pres. Trump at an air base in Korea.
    Noice.

  196. mh

    A BBC story related to miscarriage

    ‘They called my baby biowaste – it broke my heart in pieces’

    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47819487

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    Observing this, I wondered as to how one, barely born, knows survival behaviour when danger circles.

    GM – I’m always intrigued when danger arises and the noisy miners call the alarm. All the other birds immediately tense up and start looking for the hawk, or they take cover in a tree.

    Except the indian mynahs. They’re oblivious to the noisies’ warning.

    It makes a difference as a pair of local square-tailed kites has learned to let the mynahs breed up for a while, then they come in and eat them.

  198. None

    Israel really is a big hearted guy. I hope like hell he stays away from Julia Baird though, who’s a really untrustworthy skank although I wish her well with her cancer fight. Magda however his No Angel as others are busily reminding her
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Just_Arbs/status/1145112692039962625

  199. Muddy

    Watching the sniper spotters on the hangar roof behind the stage. Must have been a bloody tall ladder to climb up there.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Acka Dacka theme music for Pres. Trump at an air base in Korea.
    Noice.

    I hope it wasn’t “Jailbreak”.
    .
    “He made it out … with a bullet in his back.”

  201. None

    You will note that not one of these left he loves his has called for an end on attacks on Israel except for Magda in response to Izzy’s tweet.

    But anyway what’s that blue Teardrop supposed to signify on Twitter?

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    Regarding Trump in North Korea, it’ll be interesting how the MSM deals with this. Recall that even though Nixon was detested by the MSM he still was the Prez who went to China and made history. Will the MSM give Trump his historic due?

    Trump becomes first US president to cross into North Korea as he meets Kim at DMZ

  203. custard

    I don’t like Tiger Woods. But he is very, very good. Still even!

    I’m no Tiger Woods

    https://youtu.be/BNcOT4PRl2c

  204. Mitch M.

    this is the future of medicine, throw some serious AI at the data to interpret the cycles, pathways and feedback loops in relation to your genetics, current test results and truly personalised medicine isn’t far away. not just curative medicine but preventative medicine.

    I’d go a step up and look at the metabolome. Some time ago I had a discussion with a biochemist about the computational challenge of understanding genetics and he argued that we are a very long way from achieving that. It is an unimaginable combinatorial explosion because we can’t study genetics independently environmental(internal and external contingencies, and, because gene effects are inter-dependent on other genes. Another issue is that now there is unequivocal evidence that “junk DNA” is not biologically inert and given it constitutes the greater majority of the genome we have a huge blindspot there. Another issue is that GWAS studies function on the assumption of no gene-environment and no gene-gene interactions which is utterly ridiculous.

    However your point still holds and the biochemist may have been over-complicating the issue because as physicists pointed out in a study a few years ago even in a highly complex system what can make all the difference is a few key variables(at the time I didn’t mention this to the biochemist because I forgot silly me). Also as you state SNPs clearly can have large biological effects which is an example of the argument put forward by those physicists. Doctors know this all too well because every minute they are saving countless lives by intervening on a few key variables and perhaps even just one.

  205. Muddy

    Only Thunderstruck for Trump!

    I wonder what theme song Obummer would have had, had he been forced to be seen with the troops he did his best to weaken?

  206. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    But anyway what’s that blue Teardrop supposed to signify on Twitter?

    bleeding heart socialist

  207. None

    Highway to Hell for Bambi

  208. Mitch M.

    I’m always intrigued when danger arises and the noisy miners call the alarm. All the other birds immediately tense up and start looking for the hawk, or they take cover in a tree.

    Bruce have you noticed how easy it is to spook crows. I don’t like the critters because they seem to be the most prevalent species in my neighbourhood and they will attack chicks of other species. I have found that when walking along they are quite tolerant of being close to me and all I have to do is briskly clap my hands once and off they fly.

  209. Tel

    Good grief tell I never had you down as one of these shallow lefties that reduce people down to food.

    Don’t BS me … I didn’t reduce people to food but if you want to pretend there’s no association between Indian culture and curry then you are crank yanking.

    As usual you totally miss the point which is that cultures change, and when you confront someone about the past they generally will refuse to acknowledge where that change came from … oh exactly like you are attempting to do.

  210. Muddy

    But anyway what’s that blue Teardrop supposed to signify on Twitter?

    In MS13, a teardrop signifies you’ve killed someone.
    In the Twatterverse, a teardrop signifies you’ve murdered someone’s career or quality of life.
    It’s a gang sign for pasty-faced cowards.

    What we need to see more of is an inner lip tattoo, which means you’ve killed one of your own.

  211. bespoke

    Cheers Mitch pardon my laymen questions.

  212. Tel

    Here’s the truth: I’m more of a Christian than Israel Folau is.

    Yup … I’m even more Christian than that!

    Most Christian evahhhh!!!!

  213. Tintarella di Luna

    I suppose wrapping the red bandana around his face so as not to be recognised would be out of the question for the grate Wally Peter Fitzsimmons: this is Dr Google told me:

    Former Wallabies winger David Campese has criticised FitzSimons for starting a brawl in Australia’s first Test against France in 1990. Campese labelled FitzSimons’ actions “a disgrace to the good name of rugby” and asserted that “he was doing the game and its reputation enormous damage.”

    But quote the Bible and you’re banned from playing for life.

  214. Cassie of Sydney

    Gary Orsum has just uploaded this…

  215. None

    You missed my point entirely Tel, totally and utterly missed it. And the first thing you thought about when I mention Indian culture was curry. No doubt the Lebanese are kebabs and the Italians are spaghetti and pizza. FFS.

  216. Geriatric Mayfly

    – I’m always intrigued when danger arises and the noisy miners call the alarm. All the other birds immediately tense up and start looking for the hawk, or they take cover in a tree.

    My magpie brood are always tuned into the local Rosella 93.5 MHz. Signal incoming, heads are cocked to the side and the one eye scans the heavens. Sometimes re-cocked to other side just to make sure. Then on with the mince. Or if an enemy raptor hoves into view an instant scramble, a raucous call for reinforcements and the aerobatics begin.

  217. Tel

    And the first thing you thought about when I mention Indian culture was curry.

    Duh, it was an example dipstick.

    Not the first thing I mentioned on this very thread you can scroll up and read, m’kay.

  218. None

    Magda’s response to Izzy’s tweet which stackja quoted above. I’m like Izzy she didn’t tag him directly.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MagdaSzubanski/status/1145257630140522497

  219. Mitch M.

    My magpie brood are always tuned into the local Rosella 93.5 MHz. Signal incoming, heads are cocked to the side and the one eye scans the heavens. Sometimes re-cocked to other side just to make sure. Then on with the mince.

    I have no idea if this is true but apparently we shouldn’t feed birds mince as it stays in the beak and can degrade it. The article below seems over the top to me but it does make sense that if we’re going to feed birds make that feed as close as possible to their natural diet.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-18/these-foods-could-be-hurting-your-backyard-magpies/10365712

  220. Roger

    I know plenty here are less than impressed with ScoMo’s lack of 100% purity

    This is a case where silence is tantamount to complicity.

    It’s a betrayal not only of Israel but of the quiet Australians who voted for him.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    Why are the injuns dressed like fluoro warehouse workers?

  222. Leigh Lowe

    The Yorky ranga is playing like Jose Feliciano.
    Scratchy.
    Must be lack of crowd support.

  223. Notafan

    Modern Hindus don’t do caste?

    Have you looked at any indian dating sites lately?

    And I’ve heard of it being an in issue in the APS here.

  224. None

    Gary Orsum is magnificent. Thank You Again Cassie. That video belongs on the top of every q and a thread.

  225. Indolent

    Speaking of snubs and the Brazilian the toy-boy got was a beauty but here is Trump snubbing that hag may.

    It would have been nice if Morrison had snubbed her to. Talk about lambs to the slaughter. And that means us.

  226. Tintarella di Luna

    Peter FitzSimons.
    Rugby grate.

    Leigh Lowe just saw this going up thread, I like the way you think.

  227. John64

    Why are the injuns dressed like fluoro warehouse workers?

    LOL. They look like they have all just finished their courier shifts.

  228. Empire 5:5

    Trump walked into North Korea today on a was just passing, saw your light on.. self-invitation.

    Let that sink in.

  229. Muddy

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one: Trump, Obama and Morrison walked into North Korea …

  230. Mitch M.

    bespoke
    #3067064, posted on June 30, 2019 at 7:28 pm
    Cheers Mitch pardon my laymen questions.

    No need for pardon. We learn from each other.

  231. Roger

    Modern Hindus don’t do caste? Have you looked at any indian dating sites lately? And I’ve heard of it being an in issue in the APS here.

    I think the only Hindu society where caste has receded into the background is among the Indo-Fijians, chiefly because of a lack of higher caste females early on.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have no idea if this is true but apparently we shouldn’t feed birds mince as it stays in the beak and can degrade it.

    Mitch – It is the ABC. It is green propaganda. Complete garbage. I’ve been feeding birds mince for many years now. But I handfeed them with ~1cm balls of mince. The magpies, kookas, currawongs and butcherbirds thrive on it. It does not stick to their beaks, and in the rare occasions where it does it doesn’t stay there long. Digging in the dirt cleans it right off. Their breeding success is obvious. Should I believe the ABC or my lying eyes?

    Do not believe the crap the ABC spews. It is derivative of the holy-nature stuff which is so prevalent on the Left.

  233. Empire 5:5

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one: Trump, Obama and Morrison walked into North Korea …

    Baz and ScoMo never make it over the line. They both get despatched. 45 gets invited to tea.

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