Midweek Roundup 10 July + Jen Marohasy on the Reef & major report on windmills and wildlife

WindWatch. Numbers in GW.

FRIDAY 12 EVENING: 6pm Wind providing 4 of 28 (60& of plated capacity) and 14% of demand.

THURSDAY 11 EVENING: 6.20pm Virtually the same as the morning, Wind 4 of 29, 60% of capacity and 15% of demand.
Brown coal figures unusual, normally it runs at 4 day and night, yesterday it was down to 3.4 and at 8.10 this morning it suddenly dropped to 3.0 and in the evening it was down slightly more to 2.9. Is that the effect of Mortdale.

THURSDAY 11 MORNING: Wind + Sun 6 of 28 = 21% and Wind alone 4 (60% of capacity) and 15% of demand.

WEDNESDAY 10 EVENING. 6pm. Wind providing 4.2 of 29.2 demand, 60% of plated capacity(7) and 14% of the load for SE Australia in total with a very uneven distribution. Virtually none in Qld, about 6% of demand in NSW and blowing a gale down south. A Cat friend in Melbourne lost power for a short time, the rubbish bins blew across the street and a neighbour lost half the roof. Wind giving about 25% of demand in SA and Vic.

WEDNESDAY 10: 8.10am Wind and Sun combined 4.3 of 27.5 = 17% and Wind alone (3.2 of 7 plated capacity = 47% of capacity) and 13%% of demand.

TUESDAY 9 MORNING: 8am Wind and Sun combined 2.1 of 27 = 8% and Wind alone (1.2 of 7 plated capacity = 16% of capacity) and 4.5% of demand.

MONDAY 8: 8.35AM Wind + Sun combined = 1.9 of 26.3 (7%) and Wind alone 1.1 (17% of capacity) and 4.5% of the load.


The contribution from wind and sun will get larger as current and planned projects come on line to double the current capacity or more. There is no reason to celebrate this development because some suggest that the problems of intermittent energy only get really serious after about 15 or 20% of penetration.

Audrey Zibelman came from out of town with a black bag (a carpetbag?) to promise us the trifecta of cheaper power, reliability and reduced CO2. How is it going in Germany and her home town New York State? Check out previous posts on Audrey Zibelman. The most pungent comments cam from one Judith Sloan. Come on Judith, tell us what you really think:)

Price. How can anyone claim that power will get cheaper while very expensive new infrastructure is being installed (not just solar panels) and the existing grid has to be upgraded to cope? So the cost of power will go up. What is that going to do to average and lower-income family budgets? What is it going to do to power-intensive industries? See the Fisher modeling for the Coalition policy. Some remind us of the numbers.

Reliability. Reliability demands 100% of demand to be available from coal, gas and hydro until we have nuclear power or a new generation of storage capacity. When the sun is down and the wind is blowing 2% of plated capacity the contribution from even 100GW of wind capacity is effectively zero when you are looking for 25 to 30GW or more.

Economic Sustainability. Wind and Solar make virtually no contribution some of the time and the rest of the time they eat the lunch of the coal plants and drive them out of business. That is slower than the Daniel Andrews way to price them out with royalties but the end result is the same.

Audrey Zibelman mentioned that coal will have a place in the mix for 30 years or so. That is three election cycles. Some among us will live long enough to see how the political platforms evolve over that period when more coal plants close down after Liddell

The Cost of RE in the US. A handy piece to give some idea of the numbers.

The $65 billion dollar total wind energy subsidy through 2029 will grow significantly when all renewables eligible for PTC’s are accounted for which increases the renewable energy subsidy to more than $92 billion dollars. These absolutely staggering subsidy amounts are never addressed by renewable energy owners or the government politicians promoting these schemes.

The TPPF study documents the fact that these huge taxpayer funded subsidies flow to a relatively small number of wind energy owners and builders who enjoy huge financial business benefits from these handouts paid for by the American public.

On the upside. CO2 is greening the planet at a great rate. This has been around for years and it is not surprising because every child should know that CO2 is plant food (and it is not black) but last week our own CSIRO reported the news so it must be true!

Increased levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have helped boost green foliage across the world’s arid regions over the past 30 years through a process called CO2 fertilisation, according to CSIRO research.

Jenifer Marohasy, Reality on the Reef. h/t Jo Nova.

Corals usually grow-up to just below the lowest mean spring tide. Corals are particularly vulnerable to extremely low tides and in particular low tides in the middle of the day when there is also high solar radiation. The damage from such events may leave a characteristic tell-tale structure, for example, micro-atolls.

This coral bleaching back in the 1950s, and much of the recent bleaching at the Great Barrier Reef, may have been due to falling sea levels, rather than extreme temperatures as I will explain on Sunday.

More from Jo Nova. Legal moves on the bias of the BBC. 30,000 pounds raised overnight. And
Stop the obsession with methane produced from human activities!

Tom Quirk tracks the annual changes in methane and finds that it bumps up by both big and small amounts, and the volatile pattern doesn’t match human agriculture or mining but rises and falls in time with El Ninos. This is not entirely surprising as El Nino’s affect rainfall (and thus affect droughts and fires). And wetlands are the largest natural source of methane on Earth. Dryness leads to methane…

Proceedings of a Recent Seminar in Berlin. THE IMPACT OF WIND ENERGY ON WILDIFE AND THE ENVIRONMENT Edited by Benny Peiser.
Ecological impacts of wind turbines
Wind power and birds of prey: problems and possible solutions
Wind energy in forests and species conservation: vision and reality
Wind energy in Ireland

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20 Responses to Midweek Roundup 10 July + Jen Marohasy on the Reef & major report on windmills and wildlife

  1. stackja

    Could we somehow harness all the hot air generated by Greens?

  2. BoyfromTottenham

    And don’t forget, as the developing countries (including China & India) which account for about 50% of global ’emissions’ are rapidly (and sensibly) increasing their use of fossil fuels, by simple arithmetic Australia’s share of total global ’emissions’ is falling rapidly. So any future reduction in our use of fossil fuels will have less and less effect on anything but our national wealth. Hands up all those in favour of Australia getting poorer in the future. I thought so.

  3. Rafe Champion

    Did you count the number of green hands in the air?:)

  4. Tim Neilson

    And don’t forget, as the developing countries (including China & India) which account for about 50% of global ’emissions’ are rapidly (and sensibly) increasing their use of fossil fuels, by simple arithmetic Australia’s share of total global ’emissions’ is falling rapidly.

    That’s actually a very important point.

    ScoMo et al should replace Australia’s current policies with an undertaking to reduce Australia’s CO2 emissions as a percentage of all human produced emissions.

    Anyone who complained would have to explain what was wrong with that policy. They’d have to admit publicly that our current policies are equivalent to being the first battalion over the top at the Nek, except that in this case the second and third battalions are with the rest of the expeditionary force boarding the evacuation ships.

  5. pbw

    “On the face of it, elevated CO2 boosting the foliage in dry country is good news and could assist forestry and agriculture in such areas; however there will be secondary effects that are likely to influence water availability, the carbon cycle, fire regimes and biodiversity, for example,” Dr Donohue said.

    “Ongoing research is required if we are to fully comprehend the potential extent and severity of such secondary effects.”

    On the face of it, this is good news for greenies (and the rest of us.) But every silver lining has a cloud, especially if you work for the CSIRO.

  6. nb

    Politicized electricity. Great for the wealthy elites, a catastrophe for the average worker.

  7. mem

    This morning I read a breaking news article in the Herald Sun about an explosion at Mortlake gas fired generator but when I went to retrieve it it had disappeared.
    Now I read in the Standard:
    Origin Energy says no explosion occurred at the Mortlake Gas generator
    But read this from the Age
    Mortlake Power Station could be at half capacity for months
    Does anyone know what this is all about?

  8. Mark M

    Clear your calendar for perfect weather …

    “The good news is that we have the technologies we need – the price of a solar panel has plunged 90% in the past decade.
    And we know the policies to make them work: all across the planet some version of a Green New Deal has been proposed, laws that would speedily replace fossil fuels with the power of sun and wind, along the way providing good jobs and stabilising strong local economies.”

    We’re calling for a global strike on 20 September.
    Disrupting our normal lives is the only way to secure our future


  9. Tom

    CAGW is a replacement religion for brainwashed low-IQ millenials rebelling against Christianity.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Very good to see some pushback against the BBC. Next the ABC. Taxpayers deserve much better.
    Reliant on a subscription and advertising base, CNN is doing a good job of destroying itself.

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Clear your calendar for perfect weather …

    Huh? More lunacy from the left. Nothing ‘green’ makes real economic or environmental sense.
    Huggy wishful thinking and lies about efficacy (or need) will get you nothing but feelz in return.

  12. Dr Fred Lenin

    Never mind ,we will have twice as many windmills churning out cheap powe on still days .huge amounts of solar power on cloudy days and darkness . We will have plenty of food from the government murray darling collective farmms ,cotton is edible isnt it ? Isnt it great to have eminent members of the lawtrade running the. Country for a modest renumeration? The lawrades loss is our gain or something ,I think .

  13. Mark M

    Further on that All-star team of climate cultists (inc. Mann, Steyer, Flannery, Ruffalo, Dr John Hewson and Sharan Burrow) signed an idiotic letter about preventing bad weather by skipping work on Sept. 20.


    All that fossil-fuelled flying, 3 course lunches and the plastic water bottles on the desk, fossil-fuelled weekends in vineyards in Italy, France …

    Yes, Sharan Burrow, the Australian chalkie who rose to rule the industrial world:


    It has a carbon (sic) footprint of a small country.
    Excuse me, I need to throw up.

  14. Mark M

    Just watching folk rifle through yellow lid bins on garbage night, and I am angry that a once great 1st world country has been reduced to people going through garbage bins to survive.

    I so much want to see the politicians as the people searching through the garbage.

    I hate them.

  15. Mark M

    More on the Sept 20 strike for climate from their abc:

    “Several global corporations have told media they support their workers taking time off. Clothing company Patagonia went as far as to promise to bail out employees arrested for non-violent environmental activism.

    In Australia there is no shortage of major employers that say they are serious about addressing climate change and reducing emissions.

    Industry Super Australia said it would allow its employees to attend a day of action.

    Former fossil fuel executive turned climate activist Ian Dunlop has cast doubt on how serious Australian businesses are in backing up their public statements on climate change with real action.

    “In addition you have the regulators — ASIC, the RBA, APRA — all now following the lead of the Bank of England, Mark Carney and the financial security board with his task force on risk exposure,” he said.”

    video: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-09/climate-change-students-strike-australian-companies-workers/11291394?pfmredir=sm

  16. Major Elvis Newton

    The bourgeoisie climate strike is timed just perfectly, the day before the UN Climate Alarmist Fest in NYC.
    The call from the media was to ramp up the apocalyptic hysteria before the Big Apple pow wow.
    They are not disappointing us.
    I have just ordered my “F..k you Greta” bumper sticker.
    Pass the popcorn.

  17. J.H.

    It’s correct that Scott Morrison commands the numbers in both houses of Parliament now?

    He has a 2 or 3 seat majority in the House of Reps and has 35 senators in the Senate, the same as Labor and Greens combined, but has 6 friendly crossbencher’s to choose from in the Senate?

    So Morrison can pretty much pass or repeal anything he wants now….. Is that right?

  18. eb

    No J.H.

    Those crossbenchers are not friendly. The Centre Alliance senators are populist lefties.

  19. egg_

    major report on widmills and wildlife

    Ridmills. perchance?

  20. hzhousewife

    Just watching folk rifle through yellow lid bins on garbage night

    It has been fascinating to see how people who won’t/can’t work for a living become motivated when dumpster diving is made slightly profitable.

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