Open Forum: July 13, 2019

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  1. Mark A

    Wasn’t actually waiting for it, just happened to refresh as it does.
    Glory be.

  2. Memoryvault

    Welcome aboard Mark.

  3. Memoryvault

    Although I fear most of the younger generation have piked.
    That’s the trouble with young’uns today – no staying power.

  4. Mark A

    Memoryvault
    #3105789, posted on July 13, 2019 at 12:10 am

    Collecting TAB results for today’s (yesterdays for you) races, what’s your excuse staying up late?

  5. mizaris

    FMD.
    Miles from anywhere and in the top 10…

  6. Peter Castieau

    G’Day y’all

  7. Ellie

    I would ask you to dance, MV, but I fear rejection.

  8. Memoryvault

    Pain, Mark.
    But I’m applying copious amounts of my favoured remedy – Shiraz.

  9. Top Ender

    Top 20, but it’s 42opm in Germany so I have an advantage…

  10. Mark A

    Memoryvault
    #3105796, posted on July 13, 2019 at 12:18 am

    Pain, Mark.
    But I’m applying copious amounts of my favoured remedy – Shiraz.

    I lieke shiraz, for pain I apply Brandy internally.

    Not for a few more hours for either of them though.

  11. Memoryvault

    Evening Peter.
    What’s happening with the AC?

  12. Top Ender

    Re-post from old Fred:

    Rather strange to be at Zeppelin Field in Nuremberg, and knowing what went on here. I have the 1934 film Triumph of the Will with me. It was made by Leni Riefenstahl, the chief Nazi Party propaganda artist, and is a remarkable production, working carefully and skilfully on its cinema audiences then to stir their emotions into supporting the Party.

    Looking through it, to see some of the seating stands and so on still existing, is odd indeed. Here is Goering, for example, looking dutiful as he listens to Rudolf Hess warm up the crowd. Some thirty minutes after we left the Field, we stopped outside the Nuremberg Palace of Justice. This is where Goering ended up, on trial for his role as chief of the Luftwaffe. What must have gone through his mind? He had gone from hero to zero in 12 years or so. Now all of his ambitions, and those of his former Party friends lay in ruins around them. The air force marshal committed suicide when he was found guilty.

    There’s not much left of the Field. It is used for a variety of sports and events. Strangely, the numerous concrete toilet blocks are still there. Nuremberg was heavily bombed in the war, but is now a big successful city of half a million people. Nevertheless, it is still haunted by what went on here in World War II.

  13. JC

    You know, I really feel sorry for this dude.

    Trump’s Labor Secretary Alex Acosta resigns amid pressure from Jeffrey Epstein sex traffic case

  14. Memoryvault

    No point in you asking me to dance, Elle.
    Twice now you’ve seduced me into putting on music clips for you – “on a promise”.
    And then slinked off to bed while I was doing so.
    And with another man, I’ll wager.

  15. JC

    Hey, how the Cat not get an invite.

    It was a fracas at the White House!

    President Trump’s Social Media Summit on Thursday almost descended into a brawl when Sebastian Gorka got into a brief shouting match with a White House reporter in the Rose Garden.

    Gorka, a former adviser to Trump, was sitting near the front row with several social media provocateurs during Trump’s announcement about the census while the White House press corps was forced to the back of the garden.

    After Trump’s speech, one of the attendees sarcastically told Playboy correspondent Brian Karem, who was with the White House press corps, “don’t be sad.”

    Karem responded, telling the attendees of the Social Media Summit that they are people “eager for demonic possession,” video of the incident shows.

    Gorka then shouted at Karem: “And you’re a journalist, right?”

    “Come on over here and talk to me, brother. Or we can go outside and have a long conversation,” Karem responded, the video shows.

    Gorka then walked up to Karem and shouted at him, “You’re not a journalist. You’re a punk!” the video shows.

    Gorka walked away after the brief dust up, the video shows.

    Several of the attendees, including Joy Villa, repeatedly chanted “Gorka!” as he left.

    The person filming the scuffle then shouted at Karem: “Hey just for the record, he’d kick your punk a–.”

    Another attendee of the social media summit, Mark Dice, a right-wing pundit, also shouted at CNN’s Jim Acosta as he walked by the press corps.

    In a brief interview before the scuffle, Gorka referred to reporters as “asshats.”

  16. Rossini

    Just joined the conversation

  17. Ellie

    MV, don’t be so presumptuous. I might ‘slink’, but then I also might stumble and fall.
    A late night drink at the bar?

  18. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3105805, posted on July 13, 2019 at 12:24 am

    You know, I really feel sorry for this dude.

    Trump’s Labor Secretary Alex Acosta resigns amid pressure from Jeffrey Epstein sex traffic case

    Yeah, nah.
    He ran interference for a Peter-File ring.
    Bye.

  19. Memoryvault

    A late night drink at the bar?

    Temptress!!
    But I am a man of great moral fortitude.

    .
    Meanwhile I’ll think about it.

  20. JC

    I don’t think he did, Leigh. Firstly, the criminal acts occurred in Florida and therefore means it’s a state issue. It seems to me that when Acosta saw what was happening – in terms of Florida state going light on him, he did what he could to stiff Epstein within the limits of Federal law.

    If Acosta did something wrong, then everyone above his chain of command in the federal sphere did too.

  21. Memoryvault

    The last thread finished with different blokes offering advice on how to avoid getting hurt in a relationship. I’m Old School. If you’re not prepared to risk everything, don’t bother.

    This was an excellent song about commitment in a relationship.

  22. JC

    This is really excellent news.

    Amid all the talk of an imminent planetary catastrophe caused by emissions of carbon dioxide, another fact is often ignored: global greening is happening faster than climate change. The amount of vegetation growing on the earth has been increasing every year for at least 30 years. The evidence comes from the growth rate of plants and from satellite data.

    In 2016 a paper was published by 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries that analysed satellite data and concluded that there had been a roughly 14% increase in green vegetation over 30 years. The study attributed 70% of this increase to the extra carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The lead author on the study, Zaichun Zhu of Beijing University, says this is equivalent to adding a new continent of green vegetation twice the size of the mainland United States.

    Global greening has affected all ecosystems – from arctic tundra to coral reefs to plankton to tropical rain forests – but shows up most strongly in arid places like the Sahel region of Africa, where desertification has largely now reversed. This is because plants lose less water in the process of absorbing carbon dioxide if the concentration of carbon dioxide is higher. Ecosystems and farms will be less water-stressed at the end of this century than they are today during periods of low rainfall.

    There should have been no surprise about this news. Thousands of experiments have been conducted over many years in which levels of CO2 had been increased over crops or wild ecosystems and boosted their growth. The owners of commercial greenhouses usually pump CO2 into the air to speed up the growth of plants. CO2 is plant food.

    You hardly read any of this because the benefits of Co2 increase are never discussed. Only costs.

    https://humanprogress.org/article.php?p=2018

  23. Mark A

    Memoryvault
    #3105813, posted on July 13, 2019 at 12:53 am

    The last thread finished with different blokes offering advice on how to avoid getting hurt in a relationship. I’m Old School. If you’re not prepared to risk everything, don’t bother.

    I probably wouldn’t go as far as risk everything, but neither would I micro-analyse the minutest detail.
    No relationship is going to be perfect but if you are going into it preparing for failure, there is a good chance it will do just that.

  24. Ellie

    Tim Blair introduced some of his readers to this song a few years ago. Hadn’t heard it before.
    Great song.

  25. Memoryvault

    No relationship is going to be perfect but if you are going into it preparing for failure, there is a good chance it will do just that.

    Spot on, Mark.
    No relationship, no matter how good, is going to be a bed of roses 24/7.
    You have to rejoice in the good times, and roll with the punches in the down times.

    Reading posts here at the Cat, it seems to me that too many guys these days are ready to jump ship at the first hint of a dark cloud.

  26. areff

    You might enjoy this one:

  27. areff

    And this is perfect for an early Saturday morning with a vodka and a lemon

  28. Memoryvault

    Bluegrass? You want bluegrass?
    You got bluegrass.

  29. areff

    well i’ll be buggered

    the song is BB king “You’re Going to miss me” and for some you can find it on YouTube but not post a working URL

  30. johanna

    Just read another slab of James Ellroy’s excellent American Tabloid (for the umpteenth time, I don’t have a good memory for the details of text).

    I am into the post Bay of Pigs period. For those who are not up on this stuff, Kennedy approved a half-assed aerial assault against Cuba which gave them plenty of time to organise themselves. By the time the troops arrived, they were met with flame throwers on the beaches. It was a disaster, a massacre. What’s worse, he didn’t allow a good portion of the combat ready forces to engage at all – they sat at base twiddling their thumbs.

    Of course, if they really wanted to, they could have crushed Cuba and Castro like a bug. But Kennedy was afraid of the Russians, so he went in half heartedly and let the troops die.

    As someone said yesterday, playing Cluedo about who was behind his assassination is very difficult. Behind the glittering media image was a roll call of murderous enemies, including the Mafia, the FBI, the CIA, umpteen Cuban expatriates, Jimmy Hoffa and his union pals, and some very angry right wing groups.

    I have never been able to put my finger on who he really was, despite extensive reading on the subject. Maybe he was one of those people who seem to be whatever their followers want them to be. As one of the characters in the book repeatedly says – he’s got great hair.

    I’m watching (intermittently) the livestream of Mueller being questioned in Congress. Earlier, I checked out Trey Gowdy’s comments, and he said, they’ll get nothing. So far, that seems to be the case.

    I do recommend checking out Gowdy’s spots on Fox, via youtube. He is incisive, brief and usually spot on.

  31. Memoryvault

    I have never been able to put my finger on who he really was, despite extensive reading on the subject.

    According to adherents of it, Kennedy, or at least his assassination was fulfillment of the second step of the Trinity Prophecy.

    If so, there’s only one step to go.

  32. Mark A

    Mark A
    #3105828, posted on July 13, 2019 at 1:51 am

    Is this the one?
    That’s for areff

  33. areff

    the very one, Mark, Thanks. Of the players, who do we rate the best.

  34. areff

    Mind you, I’ve since moved north from the Delta This in more the mood tonite

  35. Memoryvault

    Anyone awake?

    No.

  36. Ellie

    You guys must be talking in your sleep then.

  37. Steve trickler

    Hello all. Something to watch tomorrow.



  38. Memoryvault

    Jokes aside Elle, I’m afraid I’m going to have to call it quits for tonight.
    I appreciate it’s only 2.00 am, but it seems my get up and go got up and went.
    So I will see everybody on the ‘morrow.

  39. Top Ender

    Awake in Bavaria, but so is most everyone else here.

    There is one bloke in the main bar area who is asleep. His first beer is about 10 every morning; he doesn’t go ashore, and he progresses through wine and spirits as the day goes on.

    The bar staff are not Australian wusses who have done courses in Responsible Service of Alcohol.

    The course they have done, I suspect, is The Customer is Always Right, and they Pay my Wages.

    Anyway, they are mostly Hungarian.

  40. Steve trickler

    Something to watch now.



  41. Steve trickler

    Will forever be a classic.

    “Don’t Bash The Piano!”



  42. johanna

    Yeah, Steve, I watched it live yesterday – Trump opening the social media summit. As I said, it’s very entertaining but also contains some serious torpedoes aimed at the Masters of the Universe.

    Trump knows very well that they are straining every nerve to stop him being re-elected, and if they think he is going to take that lying down, they are deluded.

    Their problem, like all his opponents’ problem, is that they don’t have a clue what he will do next, and he ain’t telling them a thing. Let Jeff Zuckerberg lie awake at night wondering. Heh, heh.

  43. Steve trickler

    He’s should be calling out individuals in Big Tech by name, Johanna. Go for the throat.

    ——

    I posted the wrong clip above. Original clip here. This, now famous lady….i wonder how she feels today?

    “Don’t Bash The Piano!”



    Hahaa.

  44. Steve trickler

    He, not He’s.

  45. johanna

    Steve, you like piano, my fave is Dollar Brand’s African Piano, a taste here.

    Like many artists, not too tightly wound, as Judge Judy would say. Became a M you know what and changed his name to Abdullah Ibrahim.

    But, my goodness, he changed the way I thought about piano music. The way he uses the instrument is completely different, although it also uses honky tonk and jazz influences.

    I find that his youtube content is tightly restricted, but if you still buy music – get African Piano! It’s gobsmackingly good.

  46. Steve trickler

    Miles Davis entered my head after watching that, johanna.

  47. Steve trickler

    From Piano to Vinyl.



    See ya.

  48. Steve trickler

    I’ve got to go to bed.



  49. DrBeauGan

    Thank, Tom.

    It’sa beautiful warm day in Havana. Bit sweaty walking though.

    Despite ITs enconium on Perth, I’m glad to be in a warmer climate. With 10 cuc for a Romeo y Julieta Churchill.

  50. DrBeauGan

    Encomium. But you knew that.

  51. jupes

    With 10 cuc for a Romeo y Julieta Churchill.

    A bit cheaper than I was selling them for.

  52. DrBeauGan

    A bit cheaper than I was selling them for.

    Yeah. But most of your price was to go to the bloody government, so we can keep a few bureaucrats in comfort.

    Cuban girls may be on the make and happy to exploit gullible gringos, but their greed is as nothing compared with the rapacity of the Australian government. Damn them and their corrupt socialist ambitions. I hates them.

  53. Tintarella di Luna

    Two articles in the Australia compare and contrast- the first by Van Wrongsolen and the other by former Turnbull booster Janet Albrechtsen : First is Van Wrongsolen carrying water for the Big Brother religion:

    Accusing the weak of “playing the victim” is often a crass attack levelled by the powerful to discredit the validity of the argument for change being mounted.

    It has gone on for years. Women have been accused of playing the victim when pushing for equal rights, as have many indigenous populations when wanting redress for past wrongs.

    To the extent that the label has been assigned by one side of the political spectrum to the other, it has usually been conservatives suggesting “the left” uses victimhood to garner sympathy for its causes.

    READ NEXT

    Temporary visas offer little help
    JULIE HARE
    But look at where society is at now. Traditionally powerful sections of our community are claiming victim status.

    It’s the once all-powerful ­religious types claiming victimhood against one of the groupings in society they long victimised: the gay and lesbian community. Worried a gay couple may demand a religious baker bakes their wedding cake.

    Poor Israel Folau had his freedom of religion curtailed apparently because his employer has an expectation that its employees adhere to a code of conduct.

    The extent to which he isn’t oppressed could hardly have been better demonstrated than via the fast and lucrative flow of donations that came his way when the ­Australian Christian Lobby decided to get ­involved.

    Men occupying dominant roles in business or politics are even claiming women are victimising them, courtesy of reverse discrimination. This is even though such policies, including quotas and targets, rarely require representation that mirrors the gender balance in the community. Or because workplace behaviour doesn’t meet 21st-century standards.

    It’s a fascinating switch to see unfolding before our eyes. It is as rapid as it is significant. I wonder whether those who liked to attack anyone playing the victim in decades gone by now reflect on their own more recent fears that they and their fellow travellers are being victimised?

    Proud opponents of climate change action lament that they are called climate change “deniers”. Their victimhood extends to paralleling: being labelled a denier with the rhetorical use of the word in the Holocaust discussion. Talk about a long bow.

    Some even argue that their free speech is being curtailed because they don’t get equal airtime in debates on the subject. Never mind that 99 per cent of climate scientists say it’s a genuine phenomenon. Opponents certainly get more than 1 per cent of the airtime to argue their case in response.

    Then we have that damn renewable energy lobby bullying the weak and defenceless oil, gas and coal industries.

    In Britain there is an ongoing debate about whether BP should be allowed to sponsor arts institutions, given it isn’t sufficiently investing in renewable energy. The sooner we find a way to stop such victimisation the better off our society will become.

    Few play the victim as effectively as Pauline Hanson, even though victimising the marginalised has been the stock in trade of many of her supporters. Maiden speeches referring to this country being swamped by Asians and Muslims (pick your decade for the minority) help stir up such vile supporters. Yet they are the ones claiming to be the victims of a politically correct smear.

    Even some calling themselves conservatives (usually reaction­aries unfamiliar with the label and what philosophical approach actually goes with it) argue that they are victimised in public debates.

    Say you’re conservative and you get mistreated, so the argument goes. The media, these conservatives claim, is dominated by the left — the argument often made on polemic conservative-dominated mainstream media platforms (ironically enough) across radio, print and television.

    I’ve even seen the hard right play the victim on social media — claiming its views are shouted down, as though bile is co-ordinated in any specific direction on such free-flowing platforms. Often these shrinking hard-right violets in fact have mainstream media platforms of their own, with limited editorial oversight to boot.

    By the way, women continue to be grossly under-represented in the Australian media, as do ethnic minorities.

    Apparently even the Australian Human Rights Commission is getting in on the act, allowing cases to be brought by the weak against the powerful, so that they receive a fair hearing before being appropriately dismissed or acted on. Such due process can’t be tolerated.

    The PC brigade will victimise anyone and everyone who has the temerity to speak their mind, however mindless and offensive such speak may be.

    In many of the topic areas mentioned we now see calls for protections from the people who opposed protections of a similar nature in the past. Conservatives, for example, who opposed a bill of rights but suddenly want such enshrined protections specifically in the sphere of religious freedoms.

    Those who advocate libertarian principles were doing it so tough a few years back that we needed a specific freedom commissioner added to the AHRC. I never fully understood what the purpose was, beyond giving Tim Wilson the perfect platform for Liberal Party preselection.

    Perhaps the best of the lot? Big business claiming it is being victimised. The banks via a royal commission holding them to account (finally), financial services firms being expected to act in the best interests of their clients (can you imagine), and of course property developers unable to donate to their public office servants courtesy of laws limiting such prac­tices. It’s simply unconscionable.

    You have to go overseas to find the most ironic example of a powerful person playing the victim. US commander-in-chief Donald Trump is the victim-in-chief globally: the media out to get him, vested interests opposed to his policies, Democrats without the platform he commands. It’s beyond parody to see a sitting US president play the victim as well or as often as Trump does.

    Back here in Australia Bill Shorten reminded us how well sections of the left can play the victim after his shock election loss — blaming powerful vested interests in the media and business for his great unravelling. In truth a mirror would have served a better purpose identifying the culprit.

    Shorten’s critics on the right were quick to attack his claims of victimhood, including many who have suffered from the same affliction. Shorten’s failure to sell his ­reforms and bring voters with him was the reason for his downfall.

    When a community consensus does build for change, requiring old structures to be reformed or torn down to better suit our modernising society, it is amazing how quickly those who used to stifle dissent start playing the victim — running the lines they previously disparaged. The irony seems lost on them when they do.

    Peter van Onselen is a professor of politics at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University.

  54. Tintarella di Luna

    Compare the previous article by Van wrongsolen the headline of which was : This spectacle of blubbering Goliaths should fool no one to this one by Janet Albrechtsen, the headline of which is:
    New religion, old hypocrisies – at least the Australian is balanced:

    This is a parable about a new religion that has deep roots on the secular left side of politics. The starting principle for moderates and extremists alike is that those who challenge their moral code are not just wrong, they are immoral; nonbelievers have no legitimacy in the public square. And hence, why the new moral code is part of a new religion.

    A fortnight ago, Andy Ngo was bashed by a mob of antifa protesters, who are best understood as extremists from the new religion. Ngo is a young Asian man, a journalist who is not part of the left-leaning media. He carried his new GoPro camera to report on antifa’s march through the streets of Portland, Oregon. Ngo has been reporting on stories that major US media outlets would rather ignore, including the activities of antifa. Their name suggests they are anti-fascists, but bashing a journalist is a common tool of fascists.

    While Ngo was mobbed by thugs in masks, police stood back. He ended up in hospital, treated for head injuries including a sub­arachnoid haemorrhage. Film of the violent assault went viral. Yet news outlets went largely silent, eventually shamed into some cynical coverage.

    Ngo is the gay son of Vietnamese immigrants, which is worth juxtaposing against antifa’s make-up and mission. A group of angry white millennials protesting against white supremacy violently assaulted a young Asian gay man. Make sense of that.

    The lack of concern from major media outlets speaks to the hypocrisy of the left’s moral code. Imagine their rightful outrage if Trump supporters bashed a young left-leaning journo. The same media organisations that routinely pounce on Donald Trump for his media baiting at campaign rallies — think CNN, The New “Woke” Timesand The Washington Post — seemed relaxed with antifa’s excuse that Ngo deserved it because he reported on antifa.

    When some media outlets finally popped up, Ngo was painted as a troublemaker who deserved no sympathy. “Don’t worry about Ngo. He’s been discharged from hospital, with a big fat GoFundMe of around $160,000 and any number of armed, right-wing groups offering to act as ‘bodyguards’,” wrote one misguided, or malevolent, pundit in The Independent.

    The same chap suggested that the far right wanted to treat the assault on Ngo as “their own (cut-price) Horst Wessel moment”. Wessel was a 22-year-old Nazi stormtrooper who was fatally shot by communists on January 14, 1930, his death becoming a rallying cause that propelled the Nazis to power.

    Ngo is not a Nazi stormtrooper. He is a curious journalist who challenges modern cant working in a liberal democracy, like ours, that is increasingly imperilled by a new religion that seeks to punish nonconformists in various ways.

    Over two thousand years ago, Christianity set down a moral code for people. Biblical stories tell of deadly sins and heavenly virtue, commandments guide us, there are offers of forgiveness and paths to redemption. There were also dark periods when those who questioned rising and rigid religious orthodoxy, and hypocrisy, were shut down. And non-­believers were persecuted.

    Today, there is a new religion, with a new moral code enforced by a new sainted class that includes corporate leaders, government bureaucrats, those at the top of industry groups, university vice-chancellors and sporting bosses too. Like old established religions, the clerics of the new ­religion presume to hold a monopoly over morality. This new papal class also enforces a rigid ­orthodoxy similar to old established ­religions.

    Those who stray from this new moral code do so at their own risk. There are public condemnations so fierce they aim to rewrite history. Think of those same-sex marriage activists who have not just attacked tennis player Margaret Court for her beliefs but consider her thought crimes so ­serious that the Margaret Court Arena must be renamed. According to Billie Jean King, Court’s Christian views justify trashing her record of 24 Grand Slam singles titles. Note that Court is not asking King to subscribe to her views. But King demands that Court change hers or lose her standing as a tennis legend. Only in degree is that different from historical cases of estab­lished religions persecuting heretics.

    The new religion makes no room for nonconformists. Its followers want to shut down voices of dissent. Instead of changing the channel or reading a different newspaper, Richard Di Natale was caught during the last election saying that he wanted sections of Sky and News Corp shut down.

    Proponents of the new religion search and punish people for tiny transgressions, confecting fake outrage. And they make no room for redemption or forgiveness. The orthodoxy is so powerful that conservatives are even sacking their own when faced with the shitstorm unleashed by disciples of the new religion. In Britain, Roger Scruton and Toby Young were both sacked from their quangos when the May government succumbed to social media outrage. Burning witches at the stake in a grassy field is an old variant of new witch-hunts on ­social media platforms.

    It did not help that Young, a man with a passion for education, apologised unreservedly for comments he made during an earlier career as what he called a “journalistic provocateur”.

    When you start from the same point — that dissidents are so morally depraved they must be stopped — only the consequences differ. Some adherents of the new religion chose to bash Ngo, while others demanded that Young be sacked.

    It used to be the case that we rendered unto Caesar the things that were Caesar’s, and unto God the things that were God’s. The new moral code is so omnipresent it reaches on to sporting fields, into boardrooms, universities and ­bureaucracies.

    The sacking of Israel Folau is bigger than a legal biff about a contract and a code of conduct. Folau was sacked for sinning against the new moral code. It is a totemic clash of religions, between old ones such as Christianity (but it could be Islam next) and the new religion promulgated by a new secular class that wants to stop a man from posting different moral judgments drawn from a centuries-old code of conduct called the Bible.

    Some followers of the new religion have become blind to what is at stake. The ABC, for example, struggles to show much curiosity. Interviewed this week on Radio National about religious freedom, Barnaby Joyce mentioned the Folau saga. Presenter Hamish Macdonald interrupted, saying that Folau had been covered enough. Except it has barely been covered at all on the taxpayer-funded ABC.

    Later, on Monday evening, a Q&A audience member raised the Folau matter. Host Tony Jones directed it to the openly gay panel member Penny Wong. No one else was asked for their views.

    If the ABC is the media arm that spreads the new religion, Rugby Australia’s Raelene Castle has become its self-appointed priestess. During Folau’s code-of-conduct hearing, Castle seemed to suggest it was fine for Folau to post good bits from the Bible, but not bad bits. Was she presuming to sit in judgment of a book that is thousands of years old, with a few billion followers? Who is Castle to decide what individuals should decide for themselves?

    People who presume to speak about moral issues for others, rather than just themselves, are found in droves in corporate Australia. A new class of corporate clerics presumes to speak for shareholders on everything from same-sex marriage to changing the Australian Constitution to preference one race of people with a special chamber of their own.

    Corporate clerics are easily identified. They spend more time virtue-signalling about getting the right gender balance and exposing society’s unconscious bias than they do on issues that go to the core of their business: boring ­issues such as tax reform and industrial relations reform.

    Alas, this hard work is handballed away by faux trust-seekers who would rather feel the warm glow that comes from standing in a room of like-minded corporate clerics signing up to social campaigns using other people’s money. And those quick to attack Qantas’s Alan Joyce should remember he is one of the few to ­advocate for social change and sound economic policy.

    The reverence paid to diversity by corporate Australia mirrors the hypocrisy of Billie Jean King in sport. They make no room for political diversity. It’s another sign that the new moral code is religious in nature, because few ­religions, not old ones and not this new one, handle diversity of thought well.

    A spokesman for the self-­appointed corporate virtue-signallers, former KPMG chairman Peter Nash, told this newspaper last week that companies needed to push social causes to rebuild trust with people.

    Here’s my advice — and it’s free. Companies will rebuild real and lasting trust by treating customers fairly, respecting the diversity of shareholders whose money pays their generous wage, and advocating economic policies that allow companies, workers and our economy to flourish.

    At universities too, bureaucrats use codes of conduct to enforce new moral codes using vaguely drafted commandments that you must not behave in an uncollegial manner.

    At James Cook University, vice-chancellor Sandra Harding used the university’s code of conduct to remove physics professor Peter Ridd from his job. Ridd taught at JCU for decades. Students adored him. His sin was to challenge the quality of research by some JCU colleagues about the state of the Great Barrier Reef.

    A university committed to the liberal education of its students, and finding the truth, would have been curious about Ridd’s work. Instead, JCU sacked him.

    How is his removal different to heretics being removed by established ­religions?

    When it comes to thou shall implement gender equality, the new religion has become irrational and fanatical. As The Australian reported this week, the Queensland Mines Minister could not seek expert advice from the Coal Mining Safety and Health Advisory Committee because the committee, lacking 50-50 gender representation, was forced to cancel meetings.

    Meanwhile six workers died in Queensland mines and quarries in the past 12 months.

    It’s early days. But this new religion and sections of its ruling class are already so corrupted with hypocrisy, it needs a reformation, a Martin Luther to post 95 theses exposing the equivalent of those old papal indulgences. Consider this Thesis # 1.

  55. 1735099

    that they don’t have a clue what he will do next

    And nor does he.
    That’s a worry….

  56. bespoke

    slackster
    #3105741, posted on July 12, 2019 at 10:47 pm
    Alan Dershowitz has been actively seeking the release of sealed court documents in order to show that he was not involved in anything untoward.

    The version I heard is Alan Dershowitz with Mike Cernovich were trying to get the documents unsealed so he could find out who his accusers are.

    It looks like it has blown up in his face

    Facing your accusers used to be seen as a fundamental leagle (sic) right now it it’s under threat. Lawyers get a bad rap in the media but it’s in everybody best interest that they do everything in there power to defend clients. I had to tell myself this and my family over and over as it’s the assured way to get justice for my son’s murder. Mob Justice and guilt by assertion is on the the rise and will would be made not appose it no matter who’s on the receiving end.

  57. MatrixTransform

    guilt by assertion

    We even have it on the Cat.

    have you disgusting men stopped exploiting those innocent waifs yet?

  58. DrBeauGan

    have you disgusting men stopped exploiting those innocent waifs yet?

    I had thought of revealing that nong is actually a prison wardress called Irma, who has tits sagging down to, if not her knees, at least the bottom of her granny knickers. And that she hates sex and men because everi bloke in the jail has knocked her back.

    I was going to use her method; when devoid of facts, just make them up. The awfully problem with this is that I would accidentally get some of them right, whereupon she would complain to the doomlord that I had doxxed her.

    I might have done it already, so it’ll stop.

  59. Cardimona

    Cats, the blatant opportunistic bias of the lamestream media is thriving at Their Courier Mail – probably the second-most woketarded green-dreaming fvckwits in News.com in Qld after the dribbling m0r0ns at Their Cairns Post.

    I’m cranky about selective editing that changes the message. Case in point, my letter appearing in today’s Courier Mail – particularly about the CoTs starfish.

    Compare the pair…

    As submitted…

    The Editor

    Another day, another “Oh, no! The Reef is dying!” story (C-M, 12/7). This is after we’ve funded Reef scientists for four decades, with increasing millions spent each year.

    After all that money it seems almost no questions are answered and nothing is predictable – which, using the test of proper science, means they know bugger-all.

    That our $444 million thrown to the Reefers by our ex-PM will be spent on “man-made clouds, mist, and shade-sails”, for the price of a new hospital, is just unbelievable.

    Meanwhile, the outrageous genocide of the Crown of Thorns starfish, a native species known to old Torres Strait fisherfolk as “the Reef’s gardeners”, continues unabated.

    As emerged via the Katter Party’s Dan McCarthy in Leichhardt during the recent election campaign, there’s an oddly circular swirl to the flow of our money once it reaches the Reef alarmist community.

    And we all know that if Reef science is ever “settled” those rivers of gold will dry up. Please, ScoMo, enough is enough. Royal Commission into Reef spending now!

    (171 words)

    As printed…

    ANOTHER day, another “Oh, no! The Reef is dying!” story (C-M, Jul 12).

    This is after we’ve funded Great Barrier Reef scientists for four decades, with millions of dollars spent each year.

    Yet it seems almost no questions are answered and nothing is predictable, which means they know bugger all.

    That the $444 million thrown to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation by former PM Malcolm Turnbull will be spent on “man-made clouds, mist, and shade-sails” is unbelievable.

    Meanwhile, the Crown of Thorns starfish continues unabated.

    There’s an oddly circular swirl to the flow of our money once it reaches the Reef alarmist community.

    Enough is enough. We need a royal commission into Reef spending.

    What a bunch of absolute @rs3h0les!

  60. Cardimona

    Extreme-left green idiocy isn’t compulsory at News, however, because the Townsville Bulletin printed that Reef Royal Commission letter without any changes….

  61. DrBeauGan

    They can’t actually write, Cardimona, so butchering your text is as close as the stupid incompetents can get.

  62. Cardimona

    I’ll give ’em a blast about selective editing in a follow up letter, Doc – which will hurt their feelings so much they’ll immediately delete it and put me on the sh1tlist for a few months.

    But enough truth bombs over time can have the effect of weakening the armour-plating of the hard-left indoctrination they received at monoversity.

    I know this can happen as a mate was a journo until recently and it happened to him. A sceptical letters writer (now sadly deceased), over time, cleansed him of his compulsory brainwashing.

    I live in hope – it’s the only reason to fight the culture wars….

  63. DrBeauGan

    I’ll give ’em a blast about selective editing in a follow up letter, Doc – which will hurt their feelings so much they’ll immediately delete it and put me on the sh1tlist for a few months.

    But enough truth bombs over time can have the effect of weakening the armour-plating of the hard-left indoctrination they received at monoversity.

    I know this can happen as a mate was a journo until recently and it happened to him. A sceptical letters writer (now sadly deceased), over time, cleansed him of his compulsory brainwashing.

    I live in hope – it’s the only reason to fight the culture wars….

    All power to your word processor, Cardimona.

    I’d try the same, but I’d have to buy some of the rags. Maybe when I get back to civilisation. Such as it is in Oz, these days.

  64. RobK

    Cardimona,
    I also commend your efforts. Good work, keep it up. When you doubt the impact of your work, just give a thought to how you’d feel had you not tried, and how much worse things could be if no push-back was applied.
    Cheers.

  65. Cardimona

    Thanks to all Cats and Kittehs for the positive feedback on my fight in the trenches of the opinion pages.

    But the credit belongs to commenters here and at Jo’s and Anthony’s and a few others for the wisdom, the insight, the knowledge, and the cognitive coherence that has filled some of the gaps in my woeful 1960s and ’70s Queensland education.

    I know far more now than I did in 2011, when I was injured and began filling in time lurking at blogs.

  66. Notafan

    Cardimona

    Why not complain?

    It’s very deceptive and assuming you provided your real name completely misrepresented your views.

    Australian press council

  67. DrBeauGan

    I couldn’t watch that all the way through, Zippy. Too depressing. Half those sickos should be locked up.

  68. Win

    Cardimona,
    The Commo Mail is beyond redemption. Their Labor activist journalists such as Sweetman whose articles hounding the relevant sections of the community would be followed by irrational Labor government laws eg yearly medical exams to get a drivers licence for 75s and overs seem embedded within in the Labor party and the CFMEU.
    They are predictable to that last dot and crossed T.
    Keep up the good work .

  69. C.L.

    ABC Online claims left-wing violence in the US – indeed, left-wing street agitation of any kind – does not exist.

    The alt-right has been under the media spotlight — but should we be concerned about the ‘alt-left’?

    Based on an analysis of social media content and more than a million online forums connected to both sides, the study concluded that the alt-left is an artificial construct by Mr Trump’s supporters in attempt to create an equal counterpart to the alt-right…

    Duncan Stuart, a political theorist from the Australian National University, said a contemporary leftist re-emergence to the level of an organised political movement is unlikely…

    He said the beliefs of the far left tended to be tied to class and social mobility, which usually doesn’t require violence to achieve their goals.

  70. Geriatric Mayfly

    Dr BG has yet to poke the hornets’ nest with news of his daily dalliance with his lady escort.

  71. C.L.

    Also at ABC Online … a warm welcome for Russian interference in US politics:

    In a space-themed live music venue in America’s deep south, a famous Russian feminist is preparing to take centre stage.

    Nadezhda “Nadya” Tolokonnikova is best known for her performances with protest punk-rock group Pussy Riot.

    Her presence here in downtown Birmingham is a striking sign of what some activists are calling the “Alabama bump”.

    Ever since this conservative state passed a near total ban on abortion in mid-May, so-called “pro-choice” groups say they have seen a surge in support from outraged women across the globe.

    “I woke up one morning very angry about Alabama’s extreme laws,” Ms Tolokonnikova told the ABC.

    “My American friends were even more angry, so we said, ‘let’s go there to hold a benefit to raise money for local groups to help fight this’…”

    Planned Parenthood and the Yellowhammer Fund, which helps disadvantaged women access Alabama’s three remaining abortion clinics, will both receive the proceeds from Pussy Riot’s concert.

    The Moscow-based group jokingly suggested it is the right type of Russian political meddling.

  72. Tel

    … the study concluded that the alt-left is an artificial construct by Mr Trump’s supporters …

    That’s a fair call, the left wingers have all been doing the whole alternative lifestyle weirdo thing since forever, so you can’t really be alt-alt can you?

    If there was a norm-left somewhere … then perhaps the remainder could be the alt-left. Would Pelosi & Schumer count as normal? Maybe there’s a few of the go-along-to-get-along type Americans who vote Democrat because everyone at the local play group votes Democrat. We could call them the norm-left.

    The new phenomenon is having people who believe in property rights, but also believe you can do what you want with your life … that’s where the alt-right is coming from. Go a bit punk, but don’t steal from other people. Have a small government that doesn’t tell you how to live your life … but still have a few basic rules to keep people in line.

  73. John Constantine

    If their left give up their ambit claim to destroy the irrigated colonialist settler Anglosphere heresy farms of the Murray darling basin, because the water has to be dumped unused into an estuary in South Australia, it doesn’t mean racists get their racist colonialist oppression water back.

    It means their left will progress their claim to rewilding of the snowy river, and dump the irrigation water unused into the Pacific instead.

    Comrades.

  74. Notafan

    I dunno GM

    What do you think the depiction of none as a prison guard called Irma was intended to achieve?

    Of course, as DrBG frequently reminds us, he never stops to personal abuse and name calling, except when he does.

  75. Geriatric Mayfly

    Looks like we have one of those very fashionable Polar Vortex thingies sweeping the Plains of Sodom. 4 degrees with a nasty sou’wester from latitudes unchartered. Saharan winds made extra cranky by global warming are said by experts to disrupt the Arctic Polar front and cause freezing vortices across America. To what do our southern pundits attribute this current manifestation of AGW?

  76. 2dogs

    alt-left

    The phrasing preferred by Majid Nawaz is Ctrl-Left.

    A much better construction – these people want to control your life.

  77. Cardimona

    OK, Cats, here’s the counter-volley to the Commo Mail (lol).

    The Editor
    The Courier Mail

    The Courier Mail’s editorial staff have revealed their inherent green-left bias and should hang their collectivist heads in professional embarrassment.

    Here’s why; the Courier Mail (13/7) printed my letter about dodgy Reef science and funding, but changed a sentence to its polar opposite.

    The original sentence read, “Meanwhile, the outrageous genocide of the Crown of Thorns starfish, a native species known to old Torres Strait fisherfolk as ‘the Reef’s gardeners’, continues unabated.”

    It was changed to, “Meanwhile, the Crown of Thorns starfish continues unabated.” Un-bloody-believable! I am deeply offended that my beliefs have been so misrepresented.

    Reef scientists are continually “surprised by the Reef’s resilience” – search the ABC’s One Tree Island story from 2/7/19.

    Sure, Reef tourism operators hate what the Crown of Thorns does to their favourite spots, but think of them as an underwater bush-fire – vital for new growth and regeneration.

    Much of the algal growth on parts of the Reef will be due to the wrongologists preventing ‘the Reef’s gardeners’ going about their business.

    (167 words)
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-02/new-hope-for-great-barrier-reef-with-remarkable-coral-growth/11268014

    Nota, I used to complain, but it just leads to longer periods in the sin-bin.
    My ex-journo mate assures me the best way to get any sort of acknowledgement of the problem is a follow-up letter – particularly one where they can drop the line that really upsets their very tender feelings (far more tender than mine, it seems).
    And, yeah, I use my real name.
    I do get some blow-back – even had a 75yo greentard stalker for a while – but, as a 115kg former lifter-of-very-heavy-things and a 44-year veteran of organised kicking-and-screaming, I remain completely unperturbed by these noodle-armed beta-men.
    <(-:

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ah I see now why there’ve been so many big drug busts lately – the cartels are trying to save Earth.

    If Everyone Tripped on Psychedelics, We’d Do More About Climate Change (via Climate Depot)

    After taking LSD, Bill stood in his kitchen in Merseyside, England, staring at a large tree. When the tree started to speak to him, Bill only found it strange that the tree didn’t formally introduce itself, he told VICE in 2017.

    During the rest of their 15 minute chat, the tree clued Bill in to the profound fact that all life on earth—plant, animal, and human—was intimately connected. “It was as if someone was inside my head judging my feelings, my thoughts, and my emotions,” Bill said. “It was also a two-way street, though: I could feel how old he was—he’s obviously been through a lot with the way the earth is and how the town I live in was built up around him.”

    A psychedelically-imposed connection with nature could do more than make for a Alice-in-Wonderland-esque story later. In the face of an impending climate crisis, there’s a need to know why some people are motivated to act environmentally and others not.

    Researchers find that bombarding people with facts about climate isn’t the best tactic. Dissecting the psychedelic experience could help policy makers, scientists, and journalists attempt to recreate the core feeling of relatedness that the drugs bring about: the sense that nature is a part of us, our bodies, our lives, and that we are a part of it. Capturing that might lead people to act to protect the planet, since the planet is an extension of themselves.

    Hey, those purple elephants you say are flying around your head, are they Gaia’s angels?
    I hesitate to say RTWT as it might turn your brain to green mush.

  79. dover_beach

    Global greening has affected all ecosystems – from arctic tundra to coral reefs to plankton to tropical rain forests – but shows up most strongly in arid places like the Sahel region of Africa, where desertification has largely now reversed. This is because plants lose less water in the process of absorbing carbon dioxide if the concentration of carbon dioxide is higher. Ecosystems and farms will be less water-stressed at the end of this century than they are today during periods of low rainfall.

    Can someone send this memo to David Attenborough? He is currently poisoning the mind of millions before Parliamentary Committee.

  80. Mater

    ABC Online claims left-wing violence in the US – indeed, left-wing street agitation of any kind – does not exist.

    I guess it’s only in Australia then.
    Why else would the Victorian Police preemptively deploy the riot squad outside both the Milo and Lauren Southern events…and charge for the service? Revenue raising perhaps?

  81. dover_beach

    ABC Online claims left-wing violence in the US – indeed, left-wing street agitation of any kind – does not exist.

    A typical example of the academic-media nexus.

  82. zyconoclast

    Hundreds of murders threaten Cape Town’s tourist mecca image: ‘We are living in a warzone’

    There have been some 1,600 murders in this area since the beginning of the year, 900 of them believed to be gang-related. These include 55 unnatural deaths* just this past weekend, including 6 young women shot dead, allegedly execution-style, in one house last Friday night in Philippi East. 5 young men shot dead nearby the next day.

    *most likely murder

  83. dover_beach

    Nadezhda “Nadya” Tolokonnikova is best known for her performances with protest punk-rock group Pussy Riot.

    Yes, yes, and they were rightly jailed too.

  84. JC

    CL, Dover

    There’s no such person formally tied to the ANU in the staff directory.
    The only one that came up was this doofus in LinkedIn

    Senior Officer Environment and Planning at Transport Canberra Light Rail
    The Australian National University Transport Canberra Light Rail

  85. egg_

    Dr BG has yet to poke

    The blog will rain fire and brimstone if he does.

  86. mem

    So why has a weather site become a propaganda machine for renewables? This turned up on the weather news online. Note it is full of renewables lies and exaggerations eg South Australia producing 100% renewable energy, using an average of sunlight over a year to imply continuity etc The article tries to seem reasonable in other ways by acknowledging grid issues. There is nothing about the cost to consumers though.
    https://www.eldersweather.com.au/news/does-australia-have-good-weather-for-solar-power/529925

  87. egg_

    Saharan winds made extra cranky by global warming are said by experts to disrupt the Arctic Polar front and cause freezing vortices across America.

    Making sh1t up like that has got to be a case of Rutherford’s stamp collecting.

  88. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG has yet to poke the hornets’ nest with news of his daily dalliance with his lady escort.

    Here we go, GM.

    I had a date with Yanet for 18:30. She turned up twenty minutes late in the wrong clothes and shoes. And carrying some freshly dried washing. I sent her a text message saying if she wasn’t here in ten minutes I was going without her, then she arrived with excuses involving her son, who looks like a sulky teenager. She has now gone back to change and borrow some shoes. The washing lines are communal, maybe the shoes are too.

    She has promised to be back in fifteen minutes. I am not optimistic, punctuality is unnatural in these parts. If she takes more than another twenty, I will go without her. I can’t think of another way of persuading her that I expect committments to be honoured. That’s as incomprehensible to some Cubans as it is to the losers in Zippys last video.

    I have spent altogether too much of my life waiting for women.

    As a sugar daddy, I leave a lot to be desired.

  89. zyconoclast

    Schools scramble to handle thousands of new migrant families

    Critics say immigrant students could do better if the district provided more support, including hiring more interpreters. But district officials said it has been tough to hire speakers of Mayan languages, such as Q’anjob’al and Mam, whose educational qualifications fulfill state requirements. Currently, only four interpreters make the rounds of the entire district.

  90. one old bruce

    ” … the study concluded that the alt-left is an artificial construct by Mr Trump’s supporters …

    That’s a fair call, the left wingers have all been doing the whole alternative lifestyle weirdo thing since forever, so you can’t really be alt-alt can you? ”

    Just like the weird term ‘neo-liberal’, which I’ve never seen clearly defined. IIR Wikipedia just throws together a few truisms and catch-phrases which are also vague and undefinable. It’s a form of argument in which you just keep throwing vague jargon at an opponent until time runs out or they get tired – ABC tactics.

  91. Mater

    There’s no such person formally tied to the ANU in the staff directory.

    JC,

    Perhaps this one?

    http://theowp.org/author/dstu/

    Duncan Stuart, Author at The Organization for World Peace
    18 Feb 2017 · About Duncan Stuart. Duncan is a freelance writer and graduate of the Australian National University. His interests include philosophy, international relations, science and literature.

    Possibly “a political theorist from the Australian National University”, but likely only in the sense that he is a graduate.

  92. dover_beach

    Interesting, JC. He could be a postgrad or on a contract.

  93. DrBeauGan

    I am trying to be tolerant. I know nothing of her domestic circumstances. Hellish, I expect.

  94. dover_beach

    If that is the extent of his association, “a political theorist from the Australian National University” is definitely misleading and deceptive.

  95. one old bruce

    How about AOC and her Palestinian friend calling themselves ‘women of colour’ vs Nancy Pelosi?

    I did see a movie scene in which a NY guy bashes a Latino for calling himself Italian, ‘You’ll never be Italian!’

    I guess that’s why someone invented ‘intersectionality’ – to unite the divided hyphens. Bizarro world.

    I stand with Italians, Nel mezzo di la cammin di nostra vita, mi ritrovai per una selva oscura, che la diretta via era smaritta! as Dante said.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    A soccer match between Algeria and Ivory Coast causes a riot in Paris.

    Algerian football fans’ celebrations turn to riots in France as a mother is run over and killed in front of her children after Africa Cup victory (Daily Mail, via BCF)

    A night of wild celebrations turned to violence in the French capital after Algeria defeated Ivory Coast 4-3 on penalties in Egypt to reach the semi finals of the competition.

    Dozens were arrested while three motorcycle dealerships were looted around the Champs Elysee as police used teargas on supporters.

    One reveller was seen brandishing a chainsaw following the victory – with some seen looting shops while others shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ as a group smashed their way into a store front.

    In the southern city of Montpellier, a woman was run over and killed while her one-year-old baby was seriously injured when a 21-year-old Algeria fan lost control of his car at high speed in the Mosson neighbourhood, officials said.

    If they like their national teams this much why are they in France?

  97. zyconoclast

    China’s telecom giant says it has signed 50 contracts worldwide, including 28 with European operators

    This week Monaco became the first country in Europe to inaugurate a next-generation 5G mobile phone network based on technology from Chinese firm Huawei, which is seen by the US as a major security risk, ChannelNewsAsia (CNA) reported.

  98. JC

    Thanks mater, DB.

    He doesn’t appear to be on staff though. The ABC propagandist shithead was trying to build up the halfwit’s resume.

  99. Geriatric Mayfly

    That latest chronicle not racy enough Dr BG. Any saucy exchanges, glimpses, hot breaths, thought bubbles to stir the possum?

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘woeful 1960s and 70s Queensland education’

    Cardimona,

    I sincerely hope you weren’t spied upon by a dude using his shaving mirror and humming Creedence tunes to himself.

    My sympathies if so. Cruel, cruel world.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    A soccer match in Egypt between Algeria and Ivory Coast causes a riot in Paris.

    Algerian football fans’ celebrations turn to riots in France as a mother is run over and killed in front of her children after Africa Cup victory (Daily Mail, via BCF)

    A night of wild celebrations turned to violence in the French capital after Algeria defeated Ivory Coast 4-3 on penalties in Egypt to reach the semi finals of the competition.

    Dozens were arrested while three motorcycle dealerships were looted around the Champs Elysee as police used teargas on supporters.

    One reveller was seen brandishing a chainsaw following the victory – with some seen looting shops while others shouted ‘Al lahu Ak bar’ as a group smashed their way into a store front.

    In the southern city of Montpellier, a woman was run over and killed while her one-year-old baby was seriously injured when a 21-year-old Algeria fan lost control of his car at high speed in the Mosson neighbourhood, officials said.

    If they like their national teams this much why are they in France?

  102. C.L.

    I digged a little deeper, JC.
    It seems Duncan Stuart is an extreme far left-wing queer/trans/safe schools zealot …
    In the SMH: How queers and refugees changed the politics of suicide and self-harm.
    His academic heft:

    As Lady Gaga asserts: “Oh there ain’t no other way. Baby I was born this way.”

    A truly wacko article.
    This is the bloke the ABC cited as an ‘expert’ in a piece about how the far left doesn’t exist.

  103. C.L.

    Dover (and anyone interested), do read Dr. Kwasniewski’s Lepanto Lecture and Roberto de Mattei’s latest at Rorate C.
    Truly magnificent pieces.

  104. mem

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/climate-hysteria-hots-up-while-temperatures-refuse-to-budge/
    “Unfortunately, if you look at the Central England Temperature Record, which is the official climate measure for UK temperatures, you find that not much has changed at all. Temperatures have hardly budged for 20 years.”

  105. Eyrie

    Ellie, Thanks for the Leonard Cohen Closing Time. I had not heard it before.

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any shorter bids?

    We have 18 months to save world, Prince Charles warns Commonwealth leaders (via BCF)

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    The Prince, addressing foreign ministers from around the Commonwealth, said they were “uniquely positioned” to lead the world by example, urging them to match ambition with “the practical action that is required”.

    In a speech during a reception at Clarence House, the Prince said: “Ladies and gentlemen, I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival.

    Maybe he should stop talking to trees like that guy in the story upthread.

  107. Old School Conservative

    Dozens were arrested while three motorcycle dealerships were looted around the Champs Elysee

    Yep, I can see the logic of how supporting a soccer team’s win turns into stealing motor cycles.

  108. zyconoclast

    Venezuela’s ‘anti-S3mitic’ leader admits J00wish ancestry
    Nicolas Maduro defends Caracas’s policies toward [email protected], says his grandparents were S3phardic J00ws who converted to Catholicism

  109. C.L.

    A new hero emerges …
    He is 34-years law enforcement veteran and former border Border Patrol chief, Tom Homan.
    A Democrat (named Garcia, of course) was berating him during congressional hearings…
    Homan went after the lying slimeball, big time …
    This is how you do it: punch back twice as hard …

  110. Bruce of Newcastle

    AI’s are racist and sexist.

  111. C.L.

    Oh my. LOL.
    More from Homan …

    [email protected]
    🔥HOLY, WOW🔥
    Unprepared @AOC tries to come at Former ICE Director Thomas Homan.
    She gets eviscerated.
    It’s unfair.
    It’s hard to watch.
    Total savage flex by Homan at the end.
    AOC *literally* left speechless.
    I’ve never see a member get more completely & embarrassingly destroyed.

    Video: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1149785729926606848

  112. miltonf

    In a speech during a reception at Clarence House, the Prince said: “Ladies and gentlemen, I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival.

    Haven’t we all had enough of the Windsors. May be we tolerate them here in oz because the self selected oz royalty is even more obnoxious.

  113. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf

    ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE
    J. KAUPPINEN AND P. MALMI
    Abstract. In this paper we will prove that GCM-models used in IPCC report
    AR5 fail to calculate the influences of the low cloud cover changes on the global
    temperature. That is why those models give a very small natural temperature
    change leaving a very large change for the contribution of the green house
    gases in the observed temperature. This is the reason why IPCC has to use a
    very large sensitivity to compensate a too small natural component. Further
    they have to leave out the strong negative feedback due to the clouds in order
    to magnify the sensitivity. In addition, this paper proves that the changes in
    the low cloud cover fraction practically control the global temperature.

    CO2 sensitivity 0.24C not the IPCC’s 2.4C

  114. 1735099

    Haven’t we all had enough of the Windsors.

    Yep.
    Time for an Australian republic.
    It has absolutely nothing to do with the science.

  115. Percy Popinjay

    When the tree started to speak to him, Bill only found it strange that the tree didn’t formally introduce itself

    Grate. Just what we need – more drooling drug addled hippie cretins blighting the planet.

  116. candy

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    It makes you wonder if Australia should continue to be tied to the Monarchy really. Maybe that relationship has run its course, although alternatives are puzzling.

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Poor old Prince Charles.

    He’s seen the glory of kingship slowly erode away over the decades, as the maternal longevity genes of his mother and hers before her eat away at any potential bid to be one of the great monarchs alongside Henry III, Edward I, Henry V and Victoria.

    He knows any reign of his will be inconsequential, and likely result in the fall of British monarchy.

    So he needed a cause du jour, and unfortunately for him picked climate change/warming/cooling/apocalypse. He can’t change that now.

    He would have been vastly better served by doing his own thing, aka Phil the Greek. In my view the British public would be vastly better receptive of a king that was opinionated and pretty much did whatever he wanted.

    Been a Phil fan ever since I heard of his comment to an intrusive photographer in Hing Kong in 1974:

    ‘Fuck off or I’ll have you shot.’

  118. Old School Conservative

    In a “16 minute read” at The Oz about domestic violence, murder, arranged marriages, stabbings, and migrant deaths very little attention is placed on the fundamental values of the Religion of Peace.

    In fact, the rate of murder in Mooslim marriages is excused with this torturous excuse:
    “It’s not that men in migrant communities are any more violent; it’s that women in those communities face more barriers to leaving

    And I thought the Oz was a factual organ.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – As usual you are glossing over the real issue.

    The political class want a Prez who they choose. The voters reject that model. The voters want a Prez that they elect, like Trump. The pollies and the elites won’t allow a republic with that model for the obvious reason, which is currently visible in the US

    If you really want a republic you need to specify what type of republic. After all North Korea is a republic also.

  120. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    He’s been into the organic sack and mead again.

  121. None

    “It’s not that men in migrant communities are any more violent; it’s that women in those communities face more barriers to leaving”

    A load of crock that denies the violence face daily by many “migrant” women it also promotes the fuckwitted idea that dissolving a marriage is the outcome instead of holding violent people responsible their behaviour and/or eliminating violence.

  122. candy

    18 months to save the world, good grief. It’s like Ms Cortez saying we will be all dead in 12 years, burnt up.

    Things is, young people believe it. A cult.

  123. C.L.

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    Ahahahahahahaha.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    C.L.

    Brutal. Just brutal. You are absolutely correct. Deal with this scum playing the race card and the dead kid card and smack back three times as hard.

    Tom Homan should be DJT’s running mate. Just unstoppable.

  125. Percy Popinjay

    If Chilla “I wanna be a tampon” Big Ears ever becomes King I will instantly transform into the most strident republican in this country.

  126. DrBeauGan

    She didn’t come so I came alone.

    She probably sold the dress.

  127. C.L.

    Here’s some of that left-wing extremism the ABC says doesn’t exist …
    Truly frightening.

    [email protected]

    I don’t care what you think of Candace.
    I don’t.
    Be honest.
    Imagine any other black woman invited onto a college campus to give a speech – getting surrounded by masked white people who scream “get the fuck out!”
    It would lead the news for weeks.
    Sickening.

    Video: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1118147900419260416

  128. Cassie of Sydney

    “candy
    #3105967, posted on July 13, 2019 at 10:06 am
    18 months to save the world, good grief. It’s like Ms Cortez saying we will be all dead in 12 years, burnt up.

    Things is, young people believe it. A cult.”

    Yep….I reckon the worst cult in history.

  129. zyconoclast

    Anti-nausea medication is advised

    Julia Gillard’s global warming: life after politics

    Touring African schools with Rihanna. Standing ovations here and abroad. Australia’s first female prime minister has crafted a new life with a focus on girls’ education and empowerment – and it’s proving a potent mix in the #MeToo era.

  130. 1735099

    Scomo goes all pseudo macho on the front page of the Oz.
    What is it about aircraft carriers and national leaders?
    It didn’t end well last time
    As for “self evident truths – democracy and the ballot box” – maybe he needs to make the point that in this country democracy is actually participatory with 91% turnout in 2019, whereas the land of the free, not so much as they managed only 56% turnout in 2016.
    But he wouldn’t do that.
    Only approved and politically correct kowtowing is allowed.

  131. C.L.

    Look, you have to hand it to Gillard. As a grifter, she is almost without Australian peer.
    She parleyed a pass degree in law and being sacked as an incompetent solicitor into the prime ministership, a fat lifetime pension and now a taxpayer-funded global vagina monologue.

  132. Percy Popinjay

    Things is, young people believe it. A cult.

    They are the most staggeringly ignorant illiterate innumerate anti-scientific ahistorical imbeciles to have existed in human history, so it’s hardly surprising.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yep….I reckon the worst cult in history.

    Second worst.

  134. 1735099

    If you really want a republic you need to specify what type of republic.

    One with an Australian, rather than an Englishman (and a high church Anglican at that), as head of state would be good.

  135. None

    One with an Australian, rather than an Englishman (and a high church Anglican at that), as head of state would be good.

    Like the commie Chinese student who got into uni with dodgy English and got residence with a dodgy ubr job
    Et citizenship. Voila. President.

  136. zyconoclast

    From michaelsmithnews.com

    Peter Fitzsimons in mega defamation payout over dodgy, half-baked Fitz Files column

    A ringside doctor who supervised a boxing match between Anthony Mundine and Danny Green has been awarded $385,000 in damages after a court found he was defamed by a column in the Sydney Morning Herald which argued the fight continued despite one boxer suffering “a bleeding brain”.

  137. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    one for DBG

  138. Tel

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    I’m comfortably confident to place bets that the human race will survive longer than the next 18 months.

    Anyone want to cover the other side of that and bet on total extinction within 18 months? Hey Prince Charles, you in this?!?

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    One with an Australian, rather than an Englishman (and a high church Anglican at that), as head of state would be good.

    Another non answer.
    And Charles is more likely to be a Mu slim than a Christian.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    I had held out some faint hopes for the Saxe-Coburgs with Harry. Mad ranga, loved a pint, got his boots dirty in the sandpit etc etc.

    But then he went and did his nuts over a woke soapie star.

    In times past the whole extended family would be herded into a basement and shot.

  141. John Constantine

    Shouldn’t have gone back to the wymynsys Page of Rage, but morning smoko made me do it.

    Cookies come in a 4 pack!!
    One for me, one for him and one each for the kids.
    I SAVED mine for that moment after work when you just need your cup of tea and a cookie (it was Terry’s Chocolate Orange)
    I came home full of hell, put kettle on, opened cupboard door – no cookie!!!!
    I went full on psycho 🙈 packed bags, went to my parents.

    Dad asks ‘bloody hell what’s happened?’

    ‘He ate my biscuit’

    was heavily pregnant & NEEDED cheese, went to Sainsburys to be beaten to the last packet of Cathedral City. Fumed that much I stalked the cheese thief until they weren’t looking & took it out their trolley & waddled off

    daughter is called Brooke because I was 4 months pregnant and very hormonal. It’s was the Brooke haven donkey sanctuary ad and I felt like I was helping by naming her after them

  142. DrBeauGan

    Or didn’t buy it with the money I gave her. Oh well. If she doesn’t have a good explanation, that’s the last money I give her.

    Meanwhile, Maria is asking for money too. I can’t make out what she wants it for. She txts me in what is supposed to be English but isn’t. Still, her spelling is better than Yanet’s. We had a lot of trouble with sabado versus zapato.

  143. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘and a high church Anglican at that’

    Denominationalist! Ooooooooohhhhhh!!!

    Free the Toowoomba One!

  144. candy

    Et citizenship. Voila. President.

    As long as the term “President” is mooted, the republican system won’t happen here, I don’t think. It’s not Cuba or whatever. I think Australians are more happy with term “Head of State” who wears a well cut suit or pretty frock, very polite and cordial and speaks well at special events, but stays in the background. just my thoughts, anyhows.

  145. notafan

    AOC seems be making a habit of getting owned

    Promoted way beyond her level of competence she is the US’s own SHY

  146. None

    We even have it on the Cat.

    have you disgusting men stopped exploiting those innocent waifs yet?

    incitement is a crime in most jurisdictions

  147. Leigh Lowe

    Zyco at 10:23.
    Is the learned judge questioning the ability of Bandana Man to diagnose a brain haemorrhage through the TV?

  148. Perth Trader

    The only Republic Model I’d vote for would me as ‘top dog’. I’d be wise, benevolent , but wield a very big stick. Oh…and I’d bring back capital punishment.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    I would have thought Bandanna Man would be eminently unqualified to comment on matters of fisticuffs, given his demonstrated lack of ability in that field.

    The French – of all people – showed that being six foot seven and built like a brick shithouse does not make you able to fight.

  150. notafan

    Bit unkind suggesting Cardimona went to a special school KD

  151. Just read another slab of James Ellroy’s excellent American Tabloid

    I enjoyed “The Kennedy Brothers”
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12021114-the-kennedy-brothers

  152. Mater

    AOC seems be making a habit of getting owned

    I had a chuckle when I recently saw her referred to as ‘She Guevara’ in a comments section.

  153. C.L.

    San Francisco is drowning in the shit of left-wingers:

    An NBC investigation: Diseased Streets.

    An NBC Bay Area Investigation reveals a dangerous concoction of drug needles, garbage, and feces lining the streets of downtown San Francisco. The Investigative Unit surveyed more than 150 blocks, including some of the city’s top tourist destinations, and discovered conditions that are now being compared to some of the worst slums in the world.

  154. notafan

    Nota, I used to complain, but it just leads to longer periods in the sin-bin.
    My ex-journo mate assures me the best way to get any sort of acknowledgement of the problem is a follow-up letter – particularly one where

    I admire your tenacity Cardimona

    I do like the idea of them having to divert resources to dealing with a complaint though, but clearly not worth your bother.

  155. Cassie of Sydney

    I see that the SS guard is indulging in one of his favourite pastimes again…..if he’s not indulging in racial discrimination and Jooooo hating he then moves onto his next favourite form of discrimination….religious discrimination…..the Jooo hater seems to have an issue with a High Church Anglican being head of state….wonder if he would say the same about an adherent of the religion of pieces….probably not because he’s a hypocrite of the first order.

  156. Knuckle Dragger

    John C’s Chick Rage Page.

    Man eats biscuit. Biscuit not previously claimed by woman as kept for a specific purpose, ie cup of tea accompaniment. Woman goes spak. Packs bags, goes to parents as man’s ESP is on the fritz.

    I don’t even doubt the truthfulness of these accounts. It’s like a competition to demonstrate how far they can push the absolute no-consequence excuse – ‘Ohhhh, but hormones.’

    Apologies, ladeees, for there are good ones out there indeed – but this is why they shouldn’t run countries.

    Thatcher, of course, is the exception that proves the rule.

  157. egg_

    The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders they have 18 critical months to solve climate change and restore the balance of nature, ensuring the survival of the human race.

    Comedy gold.
    The work of the same group alleged to have programmed Hawking’s voice machine?

  158. Memoryvault

    and a high church Anglican at that

    Which is why he will never be King of England.

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    Hmmm. Yes it was. A misdirected point, although the unfortunate shaving mirror recipients had their early education years further degraded by that practice.

    Apologies, Cardimona. Please don’t punch me. I’ve got quite enough facial scars as it is.

  160. egg_

    Chilla “I wanna be a tampon”

    Merkin earmuffs may be our future in global coldening?

  161. None

    THIS https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1142441279344795649

    This is why people like a AOC,,the fucktard fraud, need to be Smacked Down Hard every time, relentlessy and without mercy.

  162. Perth Trader

    Golda Meir was my fave female leader. After the Munich games fiasco she sent a team of assassins off to hunt and kill all involved. I like that in leaders.

  163. Roger

    One with an Australian, rather than an Englishman (and a high church Anglican at that), as head of state would be good.

    David Hurley was born in Woolongong.

    I’ve no idea what religion he is.

    And what have you got against high church Anglicans?

  164. Memoryvault

    Thatcher, of course, is the exception that proves the rule.

    Is the same Thatcher that invented Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW)?
    What a wonderful Lady, and what a fantastic legacy. We definitely need more like her.

  165. egg_

    Promoted way beyond her level of competence she is the US’s own SHY

    Our own swivel-eyed loon.
    c/- T Blair

  166. John Constantine

    Stood in the supermarket sobbing because there were too many types of biscuit and I couldn’t choose.

    my ex wanted a nostalgic dinner of corned beef hash.
    I don’t even like corned beef, but I liked corned beef hash.
    Anyway.. bought 2 tins on offer, waddled my way home.
    THE FUCKING TINS, with the STUPID KEY. Usually easy right? Not today Satan. I snapped it, and then tried to use a tin opener, it all went wrong. I stabbed it, a lot. (I was SCREAMING at the tin the whole time)
    So I launched it across the kitchen. I’m sobbing, the dog is looking at me like I’ve lost it. So I just get the other tin.
    Same thing happens.
    I. Lost. It.
    I ranted and swore and screamed at the tin, pointing at it and everything. For a good 15 minutes.
    So angry, thought that they didn’t even deserve the kitchen bin, so I went straight out the front to throw them in the green bin as hard as possible..
    Realised there were 4 builders outside repairing my neighbours wall, all my windows were open. They heard the whole fucking thing. “WHO EVEN PUTS MEEEATTT IN A TINNNNN” “ITS FUCKING SHIT ANYWAY! UTTER SHIT” “WHYYYY CANT THEY JUST HAVE NORMAL TINS LIKE NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE WHAT IS THIS KEEEEYYYYYYYUHHHHHHH”
    I went to town on the bollocking of the tin. I called it a c so many times.
    I walked outside to the builders all going silent, a couple looking at me, fight or flight mode.
    So I held my snotty crying head up, slammed them in the bin and stalked inside.
    I was mortified. I closed all my windows and curtains and watched Charmed for 6 hours in the dark.
    I hated my life that day. I’ve never gone near a tin of corned beef since they can fuck ALL THE WAY OFF.

    oke up one night at about 2am and lay in bed crying at the thought of how I didn’t walk my dogs enough/ as much as I did before having kids. I got so upset that I decided to try get up and take them for a walk. I own 2 large chocolate labs and could barely waddle around. I got them both in the car and started driving around trying to find a park but everything was so badly lit and dangerous I ended up just taking them through the McDonalds drive through and buying them an ice cream. My husband called to find out where I was and literally thought I had lost my mind. I went home and made myself a marmite sandwich and sat on the couch crying and eating it. Husband came out and was like seriously what is wrong and I was like nothing now I’m just hungry and he was like why didnt you get McDonalds and I said because I didnt deserve it only the dogs did.

    The marketing arm of Stalinism has latched onto the seething anger of these chicks so devastated by repressing their outbursts.

    Launch your Rage at tories to Save the Planet!.

    Hard meme to mansplain away with truthfulness that isn’t helpful to those that will explode if they can’t ragelaunch.

    Comrades.

  167. None

    My life as a tampon. By Chuck A. Windsor.

  168. None

    Page one:
    I have spent my whole life sponging off everything around me.
    Page two:
    The end.

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    Happy to stand corrected MV, but my understanding was Maggie grabbed hold of the infant CAGW theory as a tool to use against the coal unions.

    If – IF – this is true, it is surely one of the great unintended consequences of our time.

  170. Eyrie

    Australia doesn’t need a Republic. We have a couple of ready made royals in Fred and Maz of Denmark.
    Just give the Windsors the flick and make Mary Queen of Australia.

  171. mh

    Dems Gone Wild

    South Bend police call out Buttigieg for sending pizza rather than apology after race comments

    “Last week, while Mayor Buttigieg continued to run a presidential campaign in which he often falsely implies that South Bend police officers are racist, he refused to apologize,” Harvey Mills, president of the FOP Lodge #36, said in a video posted online.

    “Our officers are brave men and women who put their lives on the line for the community each day. We ask that instead of delivering pizza, the mayor deliver some respect for what police officers do and drop the politics.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-bend-police-buttigieg-pizza

  172. notafan

    Are those pregnancy stories JC?

    they seem pretty harmless

    unless you count the suffering of the tins of corn beef hash

  173. None

    John Constantine

    #3106018, posted on July 13, 2019 at 10:52 am

    !!!!! Comrade.

  174. Woolfe

    Went to dinner last night with some friends who get their news from the ABC. They were totally astonished when I did not agree that Folau was the font of all world evil. I asked them if they had seen the contract prohibiting social media comments and if they thought it was fair that prior to the arbitration Clyne was saying we would lose sponsorship if he was not fired, so was effectively fired before arbitration.

    A slight glimmer of light appeared that no doubt will not last. We are still friends.

  175. notafan

    incitement is a crime in most jurisdictions

    on the other hand there does appear to be some tongues hanging out for more of the same

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    Screaming at tinned meat.

    ‘I’m sobbing, the dog is looking at me like I’ve lost it’

    Oh no, darling. I’m very proud of you. You’re trying so hard with your widdle arms.
    …..
    Exhibit 20,000.

  177. old bloke

    Leigh Lowe
    #3105810, posted on July 13, 2019 at 12:36 am

    Yeah, nah.
    He ran interference for a Peter-File ring.
    Bye.

    Acosta said he went easy on Epstein due to pressure from on high. From where did this order come?

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Golda Meir was my fave female leader. After the Munich games fiasco she sent a team of assassins off to hunt and kill all involved. I like that in leaders.

    Operation “Wrath of God,” IIRC.

  179. candy

    Launch your Rage at tories to Save the Planet!.

    Those stories will be made up, so they can pretend they are tough using the c word and other words and slamming and breaking things, like an angry aggressive male might, some gender equality thing.

    At same time with husband caring and paying the bills and looking after her. It’s nonsense or insanity.

  180. None

    zyconoclast

    #3105983, posted on July 13, 2019 at 10:23 am

    it’s a shame that this doctor had to be maligned but oh what a sweet sweet Victory. I hope the fucjwit pirate has to pay out of his own pocket.

  181. None

    Operation “Wrath of God,” IIRC.

    As it should be.

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    None, 10.54 am;

    Ha!

  183. Tom

    The marketing arm of Stalinism has latched onto the seething anger of these chicks so devastated by repressing their outbursts.

    I’d love a link, John C.

  184. Roger

    I asked them if they had seen the contract prohibiting social media comments and if they thought it was fair that prior to the arbitration Clyne was saying we would lose sponsorship if he was not fired, so was effectively fired before arbitration.

    It’s not just about fairness, it’s fundamentally about freedom.

    Do we want an Australia where only corporate entities, politicians and journalists have a voice in the public square?

    A new serfdom where the ordinary citizen can only speak with his master’s permission?

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    Doubt it, candy.

    I’ve heard similar stories from the horse’s mouth, so to speak.

  186. vr

    The New Republic is gone after Mayor Pete. It’s unbeliavable. If the National Review had written that, there would be hell to pay.

    Mary Pete.

  187. notafan

    Roger I thought a ‘High Church Anglican’ was one whose beliefs were most closely aligned to Catholicism, real presence, sacrament of confession and so on

    Very odd that an alleged Catholic would take exception to such a person, or even single out ‘High Church’ asa particularly bad example of an Anglican, mind you it is not clear if it is the GG, the Queen or Prince Charles that exception is being taken to

    is PC high church?

  188. Memoryvault

    my understanding was Maggie grabbed hold of the infant CAGW

    Not quite correct, Knuckles. Maggie grabbed hold of the dying “Catastrophic Global Cooling” movement and repurposed it to destroy the coal mining unions.

    is surely one of the great unintended consequences of our time.

    Nothing “unintended” about it, Knuckles.
    Having started the whole CAGW scam to undo the miners, Thatcher saw an opportunity to create a legacy for herself. She set up a “research facility” – The Hadley Climate Research Unit, with an unknown, obscure little lab coat by the name of Phil Jones in charge.

    Phil Jones later was the idiot who featured in the “Climategate” leaked emails, admitting he couldn’t even prepare a basic Excel data sheet.

    All the work of the Iron Lady – nothing “unintended” about it.

  189. DrBeauGan

    Home again. This restaurant had two guitarists singing and playing. Numbers and Johanna might have thought it cultural and ethnic. I was just glad I sat as far away as possible.

    The food wasn’t even remotely Chinese. It was edible, just about. The most imagination was shown in the naming. I had rollito de primavera, aka spring rolls, big and strange. Like chiko rolls gone wrong. With a watery sweet and sour sauce that had a lot of strange stuff in it. Then soup which was named after China, but had no particular connection. And finally Pollo Cantonese, which should be a cassus belli between China and Cuba. I had one glass of red wine which was chilled, and two glasses of white wine which was merely cool.

    And no company. I was stood up. It more than halved the bill, I guess. I gave 20 cuc, which included a tip.

    It took me a long time to find the place, but I have now located last night’s restaurant which was better and even cheaper.

    If Yanet comes good, which I doubt, I shall buy her fish and chips there. My guess is that the dress she is supposed to have bought is now back in a shop or on someone else. It’s all a sad business. Poor womeo can’t even panhandle properly.

  190. Makka

    For those who are not up on this stuff, Kennedy approved a half-assed aerial assault against Cuba which gave them plenty of time to organise themselves. By the time the troops arrived, they were met with flame throwers on the beaches. It was a disaster, a massacre. What’s worse, he didn’t allow a good portion of the combat ready forces to engage at all – they sat at base twiddling their thumbs.

    Not quite accurate. The BoP fiasco was well and truly put together , planned and resourced by Dulles (D-CIA) under Ike. The button was pushed on the project not long after JFK became POTUS. Kennedy walked slap bang into it largely unawares of all the details at the time. It was a joke in planning and execution. JFK’s contribution was withholding of USAF air support and ground troops. Dulles was a very slippery character.

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    Happy to stand corrected MV, but my understanding was Maggie grabbed hold of the infant CAGW theory as a tool to use against the coal unions.

    If – IF – this is true, it is surely one of the great unintended consequences of our time.

    She recanted climate alarmism in her 2003 book.

  192. 2dogs

    If you really want a republic you need to specify what type of republic.

    The states should go first. Too much risk otherwise. Once four of the six states are republics, we can choose the federal model from the state model which has shown itself to be the one which works best.

  193. Some History

    Prince Chuck has dabbled with “royal” hairstyles:

    https://imgur.com/2ZnztvW

    https://imgur.com/x6oIfBt

  194. Memoryvault

    For the record, the Monarch of England (NOT the UK, England), is also the The Defefender of the Faith of the High Church of England. And while the British Parliament has relaxed the rules governing divorcees as the Grand Poobah, the Church has not.

  195. Knuckle Dragger

    Cops and pizza.

    Back when policing in Yarragrad was a contact sport, a good friend of mine was the senior bloke one shift at the Fitzroy station. He came back inside from the sallyport after having a smoke one day to find a couple of constables about to tuck in to a pizza, which had apparently been brought in to the front counter by a member of the public.

    After establishing that the young feller receiving the pizza had no idea as to who Pizza Santa was and had never met him before, he got the tucker away from the complaining young ‘uns, took it into the cells and gave it to the three crooks inside.

    My friend stopped the young coppers’ bitching cold by explaining that when given food by the unknown public, you say thank you very much and then throw it in the bin because you never really know their motives and what’s in it.

    The added bonus was that if the pizza was chockers of strychnine and ground glass and the crooks died, it would be three less crooks and the senior man – my friend – could then play dumb in the Coroner’s Court and say he was trying to give the crooks a dietary treat and how were we to know it was poisoned?

    Extra points were awarded because the crooks didn’t cover the cell walls with their own shit, which meant the cops didn’t need to unreel the fire hose, which in turn meant the crooks weren’t inconvenienced by being splatted up against the back wall of the cells by thousands of psi of water.

    And oh, how they danced (apparently).

  196. Memoryvault

    She recanted climate alarmism in her 2003 book.

    And that makes it alright?
    I’ll remind you of that, Bruce, when the lights start to go out through lack of electricity.

  197. Some History

    Prince Chuck and cross-dressing.

    https://imgur.com/0KuoZ6J

  198. Woolfe

    Agree Roger but fairness fits their language, freedom does not plus that would have been a bridge to far. They went on to rant that no one would sponsor Rugby now and I pointed out that there was probably a Folau in every team and was it right that they be scared to comment and persecuted for their religion and also were they also ok with ANZ going after Israels wife?

    Again a flicker of light that will be quickly doused by their ABC

  199. None

    Gosh that Mary Pete aricle in New Republic is magnificent. An honest gay. Bkowing the lid on the gay tribe.

  200. DrBeauGan

    I freely confess Calli’s travels are a few gazillion times as interesting as mine. But my cigars are better.

  201. Roger

    Roger I thought a ‘High Church Anglican’ was one whose beliefs were most closely aligned to Catholicism, real presence, sacrament of confession and so on…

    Those are Anglo-Catholics, Nota. They emerged from the High Church tradition but then deviated from it, largely – but not entirely – following John Henry Newman’s tendentious interpretations of the Thirty Nine Articles of Religion.

    A High Church Anglican adheres to the doctrine of the Articles & the rites of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer.

    From what I can gather from his public pronouncements, whatever Charles is, he’s not a High Church Anglican.

  202. Roger

    Agree Roger but fairness fits their language, freedom does not…

    Yes, there’s the problem, Woolfe.

    Quite astonishing – or perhaps not – how so few journalists grasp the fundamental issue at stake here whilst simultaneously bleating about their own right to free speech.

  203. Robert Mc

    Bruce Not of Newcastle,

    Today is Wuthering Heights Day in King Edward Park.

  204. C.L.

    Kennedy walked slap bang into it largely unawares of all the details at the time.

    That’s the conventional story popularised by his worshipful press guard, sure.
    He was the President. Everything he did regarding Cuba was disastrous – starting with the “Missile Gap” lie that caused the later Missile Crisis, which crisis was resolved by surrendering to Moscow.

  205. cohenite

    Cardimona

    #3105910, posted on July 13, 2019 at 8:50 am

    OK, Cats, here’s the counter-volley to the Commo Mail (lol).

    I admire your fortitude but understand this, the left/alarmists/SJWs now control the media so they will not play fair with contrary views. Letters to the editor are the easiest for them to control but the censorship also pervades such government funded sites such as The Conversation or the fucking abc. Back in the day when the little green frog, jonathan green was running the drum, sceptics could get articles published but that has all changed. Sceptics cannot get articles published at the fucking abc; even supposedly even handed sites like OLO have become strange and make it hard for sceptics.

    These days what I do is ring talkback and cultivate certain politicians who will appreciate good solid advice, either scientific or strategic but not persistent outside the park nuisance stuff. Unless you have a million bucks there’s not much else you can do apart from supporting sceptic scientists like Peter Ridd.

    For some fun try ringing Poppy on 2SM and argue a sceptic position, just to test yourself. The bint is on now.

  206. duncanm

    Currently touring a very hot country with the kids.

    Won’t name it, or I’ll be numbered.

    The official party line of history is a bit eye opening.. I’m spending much of my time explaining this weird capitalist communism to the offspring, while we chomp down on tasty street food.

  207. Shy Ted

    Ah, ABC RN on a Saturday. Beach walk, just me and Geraldine Doogue. How much I learn. Today I learned about Jeffrey Epstein whose best friend is DJT apparently and “may yet be drawn into…” and so on. Only a short piece so they didn’t have time to mention Bill Clinton, donations to Democrats, Pizzagate, St David’ Island, Lolita Express’ famous passengers, dropped charges and soft sentences, sheer number of the victims, dubious career and finances. In fact nothing in the book I read about JE a couple of years ago, straight off the library shelf.
    I also learned about Sweden and it’ terrible history of suppression of wymmyns and how they were encouraged to stay at home to nurture children while the menfolk worked, sterilization of mental defectives and the benefits of high taxes so people can get lots of free stuff. Again only a short piece so no time to mention migration of the swarthies, reputation as the rape and crime capital and how Volvo may be leaving due to crime. But the founder of Ikea had Nazi sympathisers as parents and he called him “Uncle Hitler”.
    Gery Doogue has also been filling in for Frank Elly who seems to be MIA. Using the same standard of research the ABC does I have summised he is either pregnant or transitioning or on domestic violence leave. Gery seems to have worked 16 hours this last week. Time for a well-earned break.
    Little aside – chatting with English pal last week who told me the swarthy military-age males of no appearance refugees are keen to get into Germany so they can hop straight over the border into Belgium which is now famous only for it’ peaceful religion and just and fair Sharia laws. More reading to be done.

  208. feelthebern

    In a positive step, the NFL players collective bargaining agreement is being negotiated/renewed.
    The players want all testing for weed to be stopped, and to have a zero penalty regime.
    It would be a great outcome for the game.
    Banning players for smoking pot is to antiquated.
    & as the NFL isn’t government funded, they don’t have to give a shit about the WADA, USADA kangaroo courts.

  209. None

    Very odd that an alleged Catholic would take exception to such a person,

    Numbers is not Catholic notafan. Pseudo Catholic at best. Someone whi occasionally attends clown mass with ATSIC flags at a parish sounds like the pseudo-Catholic equivalent of Rod Bower’s 10 pensioner outfit in Gosford. In fact numbers reminds me of Rod Bowers more than anyone else.

  210. 1735099

    GG, the Queen or Prince Charles that exception is being taken to

    All three, actually.
    I don’t know about the current GG, but the last one Peter Cosgrove (ex- 9RAR – 69/70) is one of the good guys.
    He had the guts to tell the truth about Vietnam.

  211. 1735099

    In fact numbers reminds me of Rod Bowers more than anyone else.

    Thank you.
    Best compliment I’ve earned this week.

  212. None

    Cardimona. The best strategy is to send your before and after letters to their competition and out them as fake news.

  213. notafan

    Mary Pete

    Uncle Tom

    is there a famous literary character called Mary Pete we ‘should’ be familiar with

  214. notafan

    exactly none

    why I/we usually refer to him as skin suit Catholic or fauxatholic

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    And that makes it alright?

    MV – There’s been nothing like this scientific scam in history, so I forgive Thatcher and Howard being taken in by it in the ’90’s. That wasn’t long after Hansen pulled his 1988 trick on Congress. Only after it became clear through the work of bloggers, and with the Climategate data dumps, did we see the level of corruption in these people. So to go public with a mea culpa as Thatcher did is a good thing.

    There is no excuse for pollies now though. The data is clear: very little global warming has been occurring for the last couple decades, and most of the warming last century was due to natural processes.

  216. 1735099

    Everything he did regarding Cuba was disastrous

    Except allowing the US and the USSR to reduce each other to radioactive cinders.
    Thank Christ the current idiot wasn’t POTUS in 1962.

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