Open Forum: July 13, 2019

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  1. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We lived at that time in a very large house with a pool and pool room and rumpus room, ideal for teenage parties, in Killara on Sydney’s staid north shore, the suburb where crusty old retired judges lived out their declining years. The people over the road had their place trashed by gatecrashers at their daughter’s party, and we were keen to get the best security possible when our turn to be party house arrived. With four children going through their teenage years there, we saw a lot of these huge Samoan gentlemen protectively wandering our patch and sitting sentinel at the bottom of the drive. Hairy and I would wander around putting out brush fires between the different sets of adolescent males, and I would take the girls individually to the bathrooms when they threw up in this alcohol-free setting (if you believe that; these kids can sneak alcohol in anywhere). It got even worse at the 18th’s, when it was legal.

    Our parties in Vaucluse need less supervision; last one was only small, for some Catallaxians on election nite, who came prepared for doom but perked up very noisily by 8.30pm, racing between Sky News in one room, and hooting with joy at the pore ole defeated ABC in another. Good times can still roll. 🙂

  2. bespoke

    Entropy
    #3107647, posted on July 15, 2019 at 8:31 am
    He used to be like this when an ALP backbencher. Then he became opposition leader and became all PC. No doubt due to all the favours he had to use up to become opposition leader.

    Always smart to have some skepticism.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Alan
    47 minutes ago
    (Edited)
    This can be easily fixed. Just build a small nuclear reactor near Bob’s house. It will take up a tenth of the space, be kind to the wildlife and generate much more reliable power with much less environmental impact.

    Comment, from the Oz, about THAT windfarm.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Go the younger Boris. Shades of the younger Mark Latham.
    Mark though went one further, putting thought into practice.

    Both are older and wiser now, for we all grow up and grow old.

    Except me. Hairy says I will never be old. Keep talking, I tell him.
    Maybe that applies to Mark and Boris as well. Too much spark to decline!

  5. thefrollickingmole

    You will bend the knee.
    Oh yes you will.
    Compliance is mandated and enforced.

    Scarlett Johansson has said comments she made on the “authentic casting” debate have been taken out of context and asserted that she supports diversity in film.

    The actor came under fire in 2017 for playing an Asian character in Ghost in the Shell and canceled plans last year to portray a transgender man in the upcoming film Rub & Tug, after transgender actors and advocates questioned the casting.

    In a recent interview with As If magazine, she said actors should be allowed to play any person “because that is my job and the requirement of my job”.

    On Saturday, Johansson said those comments were subsequently edited in other publications for “clickbait”.

    “I personally feel that, in an ideal world, any actor should be able to play anybody and Art, in all forms, should be immune to political correctness,” she said in a statement.

    I recognize that in reality, there is a wide spread discrepancy amongst my industry that favors Caucasian, cisgender actors and that not every actor has been given the same opportunities that I have been privileged to.”

    She said as the cage was strapped to her face and the hungry, hungry rats were beginning to scratch at the gate between them and her face…

    Also if you like movies a little strange, arty and bizzare (with Yohansens bits on display) try “under the skin”, I thought Id dislike it but it was rather good.

  6. Boambee John

    Cassie at 0735

    “BJ is also good value….”

    I was very flattered until I realised that you were talking about Barnaby J not Boambee J! ☺☺

  7. Tel

    “Climate Change – one of the most terrifying challenges my generation will face,” she said.

    It’s going to be amazing when all those Gen-Z kids grow old enough to get cynical and realize how badly they have been lied to. Could get a little bit ugly I suspect.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If you have no electrickery for many, many days, sitting around doing nothing will be about all you’ll be able to do, you f*cking moron.

    Beautifully put, Percy. 🙂

  9. JC

    Percy Popinjay
    #3107656, posted on July 15, 2019 at 8:44 am

    Tom, this is gold. Poor ol’ Pelosi – as if having to deal with Fatty Trump isn’t annoying enough.

    The gates of hell opened a smidgen and the hell girls escaped. Even the black caucus dislikes them.

  10. JC

    Not to worry, I think the building has it’s own generator. But imagine if poor Ken Griffin gets trapped in his private elevator going up or down his US$240 million penthouse and gets caught on the 100th floor or whatever. That would be a bummer. 🙂

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ken-griffin-most-expensive-home-ever-sold-us-nyc-penthouse-2019-1

  11. Tom

    Whenever I hear radio ads using children’s voices to tug the heartstring, I turn off the radio station with my infrared remote — which means I not only haven’t listened to the ad in question, but all the others in the block of ads that follows.

    The latest is a small business in Melbourne called the “Family Peace Foundation” which is posing as a non-profit. It is appears to be selling counselling for family problems, a lucrative line of business, and I have no doubt its sales pitch is aimed at people distressed by Goebbels warming and the urgent need for a 19th century electricity system.

    This is a special brand of deception and dishonesty designed to offend anyone not addicted to deception and dishonesty.

    JC, it’s as bad as the Frank Walker ads.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s a new middle eastern petrostate…

    Leviathan natural gas platform on its way to Israel

    Meanwhile in a country 350 times the size of Israel the lock the gate druids have given us sky high gas prices.

  13. stackja

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3107666, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:06 am
    If you have no electrickery for many, many days, sitting around doing nothing will be about all you’ll be able to do, you f*cking moron.

    Beautifully put, Percy.

    New York City blackout of 1977 began on Wednesday, 13 July
    and ended on Thursday, 14 July. Nine months later, babies.

  14. bespoke

    Tom
    #3107669, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:15 am
    Whenever I hear radio ads using children’s voices to tug the heartstring,

    One of the most despicable tactic that’s gone mainstream.

  15. MatrixTransform

    Indians eat soybeans

    I believe Indians sell soybeans

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Indigenous treaty more important than ‘voice’: Michael Mansell

    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs Correspondent
    @paigeataylor
    12:00AM July 15, 2019
    9 Comments

    There is no need for Australians to fear an indigenous voice enshrined in the Constitution but a treaty has the potential to make even more change, according to a land council boss who endorsed the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    Aboriginal Lands Council of Tasmania chairman Michael Mansell was with delegates in central Australia in May 2017 who helped to create the Uluru statement calling for the establishment of a First Nations voice enshrined in the Constitution. The Uluru statement proposes three key elements for sequential reform: “Voice, Treaty, Truth” and has been embraced by corporate giants including BHP, which donated $1 million for a public education campaign ahead of a referendum.

    “I endorsed it wholeheartedly … I still do,” Mr Mansell said. “The delegates were reflecting Aboriginal sentiment around the country which was frustration at being shut out of decision-making.”

    The voice is widely regarded as the most important element of the Uluru statement, however Mr Mansell said he believed a treaty was potentially more powerful. He cited the opinion of constitutional law expert Anne Twomey who had made it clear such a voice would advise, not dictate.

    “An advisory body can’t return land to people who can’t get ­Native Title,” he said. “A treaty with Aboriginal people can.”

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week expressed his opposition to a voice enshrined in the Constitution. His strident position is a blow to supporters of the Uluru statement.

    Mr Mansell said yesterday he saw the voice as benign. “It will have no legislative powers, ­deliver no services, return no land, have no budget to distribute,” he wrote in a letter to The Australian.

    “It cannot override, impede or interfere with parliamentary processes.

    “In fact, it is powerless. The voice cannot impose any obligations on governments nor create any rights for Aboriginal people. It can only advise.’

    From the Oz.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    New age relic.
    Own John Lennon’s decayed tooth for $31K: The big business of celeb memorabilia
    I wonder if the new owner will build a temple to house it in?

  18. Geriatric Mayfly

    I wonder if the new owner will build a temple to house it in?

    Imagine – if you will.

  19. vr

    I believe Indians sell soybeans

    I looked it up, they are in the Top 10 exporters. Though I didn’t realise that it is consmed in the North East — Assam, Sikkim etc

  20. vr

    JC — Can you imagine the property taxes Griffin has to pay?

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Indigenous treaty more important than ‘voice’: Michael Mansell

    Will he sign it on the deck of HMAS Canberra like Mr Shigemitsu?

  22. Up The Workers!

    Deeming.

    I remember its introduction well.

    The ‘Lizard of Oz’ announced it while he was overseas on one of his many self-funded retiree/pensioner/taxpayer-funded antique French clock and Zegna suit-buying trips, as all good multi-millionaire ‘progressive’ piggery-owning Socialists are wont to do.

    Those greedy old pensioners should be ashamed of themselves, he grumbled.

    The A.L.P. – Always Looting Pensioners!

  23. Tel

    Modern day deeming was introduced by former prime minister Paul Keating in his final budget as treasurer in 1990.

    Yeah that was a low act. Keating did some good things for the economy like floating the AUD … and I will say that his deeming is an efficient way of shaking down the pensioners … but there’s something petty and scummy about going after people’s life savings even after they spent a lifetime paying income tax (and the hidden inflation tax) then hitting them a third time when they are old and trying to be self sufficient.

    Keating was smart, but could be very cold when he decided he wanted your cash. The ALP’s cries about “empathy” must be the most hollow thing in the world. I hope Morrison simply scraps the deeming laws. Then the ALP will grumble about the “cost” of not robbing enough people often enough.

  24. Rococo Liberal

    Frollicking Mole
    It’s interesting how darkies are being put into roles that are clearly for white skinned actors and we are supposed to ignore it.

    James Delinpole gets it right:

    https://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=189717&sec_id=189717

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sure to be a smash.

    Lashana Lynch will play 007 in new James Bond movie: report

    British actress Lashana Lynch, 31, will be introduced as the new 007 in what is being described as a ‘popcorn-dropping moment’ in the franchise’s 25th movie that is currently being filmed, according to the Mail on Sunday.

    Woke black feminist with no mention of any partner in her wiki.

  26. egg_

    meanwhile some poor old farmers can hardly afford the payments on the Range Rovers

    Ironic that the Injuns are mining our coal and selling us Range Rovers, Comrade!
    Who’s the loser here?

  27. egg_

    It’s interesting how darkies are being put into roles that are clearly for white skinned actors and we are supposed to ignore it.

    The IT Guys are starring in mainstream fillums nowadays.
    Bohemian Rhapsody and Yesterday, to name a few.

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    Cassie, this morning:

    ‘BJ is good value’

    PHRASING.

    (H/t Archer)

    Fish in a barrel, but it’s early in the week.

  29. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3107690, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Lick the opposition? The name is Pussy, Jamie Pussy?

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Door open to state voice, treaty, compo

    Sarah Elks
    Queensland Political Reporter
    @sarahelks
    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    12:00AM July 15, 2019
    34 Comments

    The Queensland government has opened the door to financial reparations for the state’s indigenous people after promising to negotiate a treaty with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.

    Hailing the move as the “next step in reconciliation” for the state, Deputy Premier Jackie Trad said a new panel — led by Aboriginal leader and academic Jackie Huggins and former federal ­attorney-general Michael Lavarch — would consult widely on the shape of a treaty, a possible ­indigenous voice to state parliament, and potential financial compensation. “We need to have a truth-telling, we need to recognise they require a greater voice in the decisions that affect their lives, and ultimately this happens through an agreement, or a ­treaty,” Ms Trad said.

    She said Queensland would follow Victoria’s lead and eventually introduce legislation to commit to a path to a treaty, and flagged introducing a Victorian-style commission of elected indigenous people to advise the government on the treaty process.

    But Ms Trad, the state’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Partnerships Minister, refused to put a time frame on the reform and would not predict what practical effect a treaty would have on Queensland’s indigenous people and communities.

    The shape of a treaty, or multiple treaties, would be formed after lengthy consultation by the “eminent panel”.

    From the Oz.

  31. egg_

    Bobby Brown is living proof teh Watermelons are gold plated hypocrites.

  32. bespoke

    Frightbat engineering.

  33. stackja

    Tom
    #3107669, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:15 am

    Clive Palmer ads were amusing. And got ALP!

  34. egg_

    meanwhile some poor old farmers can hardly afford the payments on the Range Rovers

    Stuffed shirt pale stale males must be miffed as aspiration Injuns and Lebs seem to have it as their vehicle of choice.
    Heavy advertising on SBS?

  35. Doomsday Dementia Syndrome

    s.a. Quadrant

  36. Roger

    The Queensland government has opened the door to financial reparations for the state’s indigenous people after promising to negotiate a treaty with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.

    A sure fire vote winner.

    I suggest the Libs let it run for all it’s worth:

    “Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake.”
    Napleon

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The former WA Liberal government negotiated a $1.3 billion land deal with the Noongar people of the southwest, described as “Australia’s first treaty” by Harry Hobbs and George Williams of the Faculty of Law at the University of NSW.

    The deal, which affects 30,000 Noongar people and covers around 200,000sq km, is the biggest native title settlement in Australian history and will establish a Noongar estate of up to 320,000ha, a perpetual trust receiving yearly instalments of $50m for 12 years, and six Noongar regional corporations and one central services corporation, with funding support of $10m a year for 12 years, and $6.5m to establish the offices.

    More, from the Oz, on the subject of the treaty.

  38. Mother Lode

    I just saw the banner at the bottom of the TV – a BBC headline that Trump is under fire for racially charged tweets.

    If there was a law requiring that passive voice be banished or other means of avoiding of mentioning who is doing whatever is being reported, the ABC and BBC would dry up like dog turds and be blown away by the wind.

    When AOC and Omar say “The orange man is picking on us ‘cos race” it more means that have nothing than that he has done something.

    Their own party wants them to shut up. Now that would be a report.

    But nonsense news like this is precisely why so many on the left are being mugged by reality time and again. They are so certain that Trump is going down and then…nothing happens, Six months ago it was going to be ‘game over’ with Meuller’s findings about Wussian Cowwusion.

  39. “Rococo Liberal
    #3107689, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:41 am
    Frollicking Mole
    It’s interesting how darkies are being put into roles that are clearly for white skinned actors and we are supposed to ignore it.

    James Delinpole gets it right:

    https://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=189717&sec_id=189717

    Yep….Delingpole is 100% right (as he usually is about most things). I was watching television last year and saw a short for the film Mary Queen of Scots last year. When I saw how they had put a black actor in the role of Elizabeth’s ambassador….I nearly fell off my couch laughing. They are doing the same here too…last year I only managed to watch about one hour (if that) of the Foxtel remake of Picnic at Hanging Rock. I switched off because they went full on with all the usual bullshit wokeness……lesbianism, the headmistress spoke like some common cockney and the most laughable aspect was that they had an indigenous actor playing one of the girls…..yeah right I thought….an indigenous girl attending a plush private girl’s school in 1900….the whole thing was ludicrous. The ruined the Lindsay book. Just watch the 1975 Peter Weir film…it is still haunting and beautiful….and faithful to the book.

    The problem with all of this cretinous wokeness is that it actually isn’t a laughing matter. It is a perversion and corruption of history and reality. And if the morons continue along with idiocy…why can’t it work both ways….will we see a white Mandela?

  40. mh

    Compare and contrast Wimbledon Men’s Final and Wimbledon Women’s Final.

    I think I can spot a few differences other than the outfits.

    It’s great that women wish to get involved in sport. But what the women do has no correlation with what the men are doing. It never will. It never can. Because biology.

  41. notafan

    What really put me off, though, was the United Colours of Benetton approach to casting: the police snipers were black and female, the head of the SWAT team was of Indian or Pakistani heritage, the bomb disposal expert was of oriental extraction—none of which they would be, even now, in early 21st century Britain. Despite copious efforts by the police to recruit more widely, all the above roles are still performed overwhelmingly by white men.

    That was the absurdity that irritated me throughout the show

    And that that they were all too dumb to (well I won’t spoil the plot)

  42. notafan

    Deeming.

    I remember its introduction well.

    Its introduction was quite logical

    ‘Pensioners’ were holding millions in no interest cheque accounts in order to get the pension, I remember there were many examples of people who would have received significantly more in interest in a regular savings account than they were in the pension

    and of course the banks were laughing all the way to the bank

    Nothing like free money to skew behaviours.

  43. Roger

    Napoleon

    State debt ballooning towards $90bn, unemployment above the national level and rising, household debt at record levels, most of the southern inland in severe drought with small businesses closing…and Trad is flagging multi-billion dollar reparations to the descendants of indigenous folk who are already privileged above other citizens in terms of access to government services and welfare payments.

    She really is the gift that keeps on giving for the Libs.

  44. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Magpie is on Q&A tonight I see. Forgotten what rat hole is her provenance; but hopefully, someone might suggest she go back there and make herself useful in cleaning up the mess.

  45. Mother Lode

    Door open to state voice, treaty, compo

    If the Libs had any sense at all they would steer talk of treaties and special bodies to some of the more fraught concerns: Who is to be included, which people will qualify.

    Most of the people agitating for this nonsense will be like 25% (if that). Let people who are 50% try to exclude those who are 25%, while the 25% specimens try to wrest some of the financial and political largesse away fro the 50 percenters.

    When their goal is remote they will happily form an alliance. But when they are near enough to smell money their avarice and naked ambition will turn them upon each other.

    Let that kind of internecine squabble play out in full view of the public.

  46. Shy Ted

    And the new Jane Bond fillums will be Thunderclit, Dr No means No, A bort and Let Die, Octoknob, From Russia with Collusion and Quantum of Misogyny. All villains will be called Donald. Chief spy, M, will have to become F. The Aston Martins will be Teslas. Chief scientist Q will have to be LGBTIQ. If they’re going to do it properly that is.

  47. None

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #3107703, posted on July 15, 2019 at 10:08 am

    and most of that money will be siphoned off by handful of crocodile men and there will be not a single check or order it to see that public monies have been spent wisely, in accordance with intention and for the common good.

  48. Shy Ted

    Almost forgot, The Spy Who Loved Me will be reported to police for rope 30 years later. All spies must be believed.

  49. mh

    David J Harris Jr
    @DavidJHarrisJr
    Proof it’s all about emotion to liberals! I’m not a small guy, and she was afraid of my @realDonaldTrump hat!
    Are You Kidding Me!!!
    https://twitter.com/DavidJHarrisJr/status/1088245376828592130?s=20

  50. notafan

    Scarlett Johansson of I heart Planned Parenthood fame deserves all she gets, they turn on their own like a pack of hyenas.

  51. Infidel Tiger

    NZ absolutely robbed in WC final.

    Umpires got the overthrows rule wrong.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    will we see a white Mandela?

    A movie of Haldeman’s Forever War would theoretically have a white Mandela. Hard to make such a fillum work though since it is critical of qwertyism and the UN.

  53. None

    Yes I noticed the DT went after BJ too, Cassie. Like they have this little dirt file where they could just pull out something as the need arises or though I’m pretty sure it’s starting to get quite thin in BJ’s case. I mean it’s just so transparent now. I’m happy not to be throwing any money at them either.

  54. “notafan
    #3107719, posted on July 15, 2019 at 10:42 am
    Scarlett Johansson of I heart Planned Parenthood fame deserves all she gets, they turn on their own like a pack of hyenas.”

    Agree.

  55. None

    Notafan -I think you may be right. I do recall meeting somewhere that is he had to hand over his salary when he was quite Young and I can’t remember if it was Mormons or scientologists who demand your tax return so they can tell you how much you should be kidding. I’m not too sure if they go as far as garnishing your wage as I suspect that would be down lying legal.

  56. Shy Ted

    Lobbecke wins for me. Nails it. Frank Elly back today and all energized. Big promo for China’ inhumane treatment of Uyghur mueslis in tonight’ Fork Orners. Apparently they have to work making clothes for Target and Cotton On.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    Chief scientist Q will have to be LGBTIQ. If they’re going to do it properly that is.

    I forsee a Bond-Marvel mashup movie where Doctor Strange trains ex-MI6 technoqwerty Doctor Queer as his successor.

  58. notafan

    Mansell

    going to interesting to see which of the Tasmanian tribes get on any national body

    Quite a few people around who have aboriginal heritage who are not interested in all this. I hope a few more start declaring it

    other than the most recent arrivals probably far more that people realise.

    I wonder how many of the last couple of waves of immigrants give a stuff, and if there is another hand in their pocket..

    I propose that there be a Aboriginal recognition and reparations levy, from which those with Aboriginal heritage are exempt. naturally.

  59. Roger

    Millennial sports journalist enthusing over the “most even cricket match ever played”.

    Brisbane 1960 & Madras 1986 Tests were apparently played in pre-historic times.

  60. None

    She really is the gift that keeps on giving for the Libs.

    Uou really think the Queensland LNP is awake and has noticed Roget? Nope. PHON might. But even then I have my doubts.

  61. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I don’t know if this is true Lazlo, but I read that Mike Nesmith conceived of, then produced, the first dedicated, professionally directed, music video clip. Prior to that music video clips just consisted of the band, one way or another.

    No, no, no! It was Queen and “Bohemian Rhapsody” (1976) because they were touring and thought if they put something together for TV it would do the job while they were away. “Rio” was 1977.

    (From Wikipedia) “The single was accompanied by a promotional video, which scholars consider ground-breaking. Rolling Stone stated that its influence “cannot be overstated, practically inventing the music video seven years before MTV went on the air.” The Guardian ranked the music video for “Bohemian Rhapsody” number 31 on their list of the 50 key events in rock music history, adding it ensured “videos would henceforth be a mandatory tool in the marketing of music”.”

  62. DrBeauGan

    The thing that strikes me about the woke people is how astonishingly crass they are. They are the few who are truly racist and believe that patronising anyone with a dark complexion is the right thing to do. I guess the truly crass never get it. By the nature of crassness, they get a warm inner glow from being patronising bumwipes. And are incapable of seeing it

  63. notafan

    If Scarlet is taken at her word the next period war drama should have a cast of people with various genders, female marines, people with disabilities, the blind, wheel chair bound etc

  64. bespoke

    mh
    #3107717, posted on July 15, 2019 at 10:40 am

    ==

    “you should pay attention fear not logic–frightbat”

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Johansson is doing woke penance for saying nice things about Israel when she fronted for class-enemy SodaStream.

  66. jo

    Cassie, this morning:

    ‘BJ is good value’

    I agree, a BJ in the morning is good value. It makes me smile all day.

  67. Roger

    I wonder how many of the last couple of waves of immigrants give a stuff…

    Indians have a definite anti-colonial streak so don’t be surprised if many of them support it.

    Chinese are a different kettle of fish

  68. C.L.

    Godwin’s Law latest …

    In the SMH:

    I’m the gay grandson of a persecuted J-ew; freedom of religion is not freedom to harm

    Wherein the homosexual author directly compares Israel Folau to Adolf Hitler.

  69. bespoke

    DrBeauGan

    Soft bigotry of low expectations.

  70. None

    Some of the first couple of post-war waves of immigrants will probably vote for treaties because they would have had enough of a guilt trip thrown at them full stop it actually amuses me how the left can sit there and demand open borders while at the same time claiming this is indigenous land which was invaded.

  71. None

    Also if indigenous want exclusive rights to their Nan’s back then why do we need to give them money. Why do they suddenly now need money to reconnect with L and when they didn’t before white he arrived. I mean you all know that this is a pile of croc and yet like climate change were playing this fucken Charade. In the meantime in some Aboriginal Settlements kids are still getting raped and women are still getting beaten and men are still getting wasted and killing themselves. Another generation down the gurgler. That is the national disgrace.

  72. “C.L.
    #3107738, posted on July 15, 2019 at 10:59 am
    Godwin’s Law latest …

    In the SMH:

    I’m the gay grandson of a persecuted J-ew; freedom of religion is not freedom to harm

    Wherein the homosexual author directly compares Israel Folau to Adolf Hitler.”

    Who wrote this garbage?

  73. notafan

    None -don’t know about Scientology but Mormons have an annual ‘tithing settlement interview’

  74. C.L.

    Who wrote this garbage?

    Dr Justin Koonin is the president of ACON, Australia’s largest LGBTQI health organisation.
    —————-
    The article includes this fatuous whopper:

    While health data for people of diverse sexuality and gender remains woefully incomplete, that which does exist does not paint a pretty picture. According to statistics from the National LGBTI Health Alliance, lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans and intersex people aged 16 to 27 are five times more likely to attempt suicide in their lifetime than the general population. Transgender people aged 18 and over are nearly 11 times more likely – and more than a third of this cohort has attempted suicide in their lifetime.

    Statistics around self-harm, depression and anxiety are similarly troubling. There is nothing inherently wrong with these people. Earlier this year, the World Health Organisation removed transgender and gender identity-related issues from its manual of mental health disorders, as it did with homosexuality in 1990. Rather, mental health concerns arise as a result of repeated exposure to societal messaging that tells people they are inadequate, incomplete or flawed.

  75. Roger

    freedom of religion is not freedom to harm

    Nobody is arguing that it is.

    And there are laws in place to deter and punish those who harm others.

    Now, who did Israel Folau harm?

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    I wonder how many of the last couple of waves of immigrants give a stuff…

    Indians have a definite anti-colonial streak so don’t be surprised if many of them support it.

    Eventually Australians will be migrating to India for a better life.

    India lifted 271 million people out of poverty in 10 years: UN (via Drudge)

    India reduced deprivation in nutrition from 44.3% in 2005-06 to 21.2% in 2015-16, child mortality dropped from 4.5% to 2.2%, people deprived of cooking fuel reduced from 52.9% to 26.2%, deprivation in sanitation from 50.4% to 24.6%, those deprived of drinking water reduced from 16.6% to 6.2 %.

    Further more people gained access to electricity as deprivation was reduced from 29.1% to 8.6%, housing from 44.9% to 23.6% and assets deprivation from 37.6% to 9.5%.

    Meanwhile we’re depriving Australians of electricity to not save the world from a myth.

  77. notafan

    Indians have a definite anti-colonial streak so don’t be surprised if many of them support it.

    Enough to put their hands in their own pocket?

    Treaty levy now!

  78. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country and who, in addition, hate Israel with a true and unbridled passion. Whenever confronted, they call their adversaries, including Nancy Pelosi, “RACIST.” Their disgusting language………and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged. If the Democrat Party wants to continue to condone such disgraceful behavior, then we look even more forward to seeing you at the ballot box in 2020!

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #3107728, posted on July 15, 2019 at 10:52 am

    Millennial sports journalist enthusing over the “most even cricket match ever played”.

    No need to go back that far.
    Can’t get any more even than the four wash-outs in this World Cup.

  80. JC

    JC, it’s as bad as the Frank Walker ads.

    Tom, Frank walker ads are in a league of their own. Frank should be beaten to an inch of his life for that level of trolling.

    vr

    Griffin’s purchase sparked a new tax here for foreigners who buy apartments valued over US$5 mill. De Blasio is the biggest D’rat scumbag in the country.

  81. Black Ball:

    I’m happy to be proved wrong, but I’m betting on a narrow win for any referendum. The “White Guilt” and “Race” cards will be played early and often, during a very slick and polished campaign.

    I think you will be proved wrong Zulu. People have had it up to the back teeth with identity politics and are pushing back. Which is why Mark Latham is gaining traction among the great unwashed.

    We may be, as you say, fed up to the back teeth, but there are large sections of Australian society who are quite happy with their position on the Victim Totem Pole – and would like a little adjustment upwards.

  82. bespoke

    Andy Ngo shares video of Willem Van Spronsen at an Antifa rally in 2018

    Andy Ngo

    @MrAndyNgo
    Replying to @MrAndyNgo
    Here is my video which captures Willem van Spronsen, the JBGC antifa militia member who was killed yesterday outside the Tacoma, Washington ICE facility. Police say he arrived with a rifle & began to firebomb the place & attempted to make a tank explode.

  83. JC

    mh

    It’s hysterical how he brings Nancy into the argument against the hell girls. She must really love that.

  84. cohenite

    Makes you sorta wish we could have lived up to this:

  85. vr

    JC — He should have stayed out of it and let the DEMs duke it out among themselves. He can’t tolerate not being the centre of attention.

  86. JC

    Don’t push your own inadequacies onto the rest of us cronkite. It’s unseemly and unjustified.

  87. Pedro the Magnificent:

    When and if a serious aborigine Constitutional recognition referendum proposal is ever put to the the Australian people I will be running to my nearest bookie with every bit of spare cash I can raise to back a negative result.

    Stand in line, buddy.

  88. rickw

    Rather, mental health concerns arise as a result of repeated exposure to societal messaging that tells people they are inadequate, incomplete or flawed.

    Could be from doing things that you know to be wrong in the very core of your being.

    Why anyone brave enough to point this out gets such a visceral reaction.

  89. Shy Ted

    The other day I changed my interne dating profile to include – “must have a body of a female tennis player, preferably Serena Williams”. Not close enough.

  90. rickw

    India lifted 271 million people out of poverty in 10 years: UN

    By doing virtually none of the things that the UN recommended to solve poverty.

  91. Memoryvault:

    They can accomplish everything they say they want, and more, via a Treaty that mug Australians will never get to even see, let alone vote on, until it has been signed and ratified, and so carries the full weight of international law.

    You miss the point.

    When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

    You must love Big Brother or else. The aim is to humiliate a society the Left despise.

  92. vr

    Indians have a definite anti-colonial streak so don’t be surprised if many of them support it.

    The history taught in schools has a anti-colonial bent to it. I recall the exams were mostly about remembering dates/places. Sure, politicians (e.g. Shashi Tharoor etc) lean on it, but the populace wants functioning toilets, reliable water service etc. The fact that so many want/desparate to move elsewhere is indication that not all is well in the country.

  93. rickw

    Let that kind of internecine squabble play out in full view of the public.

    Yep.

  94. Tom

    And the new Jane Bond fillums will be Thunderclit, Dr No means No, A bort and Let Die, Octoknob, From Russia with Collusion and Quantum of Misogyny. All villains will be called Donald. Chief spy, M, will have to become F. The Aston Martins will be Teslas.

    If the woke idiots, to whom production and design of the Bond series has been handballed by the Hollywood establishment, were able to reason better than amoebae, they’d know that casting a black lesbian as “James” Bond is a calculated insult to 90% of the demographic who financed the first 26 Bond moneyspinners.

    If the idea was simply to experiment with a female James Bond — which it isn’t, as the current Hollywood ambition is to destroy the male lead archetype unless he is an effeminate homosexual — she would be a randy white playgirl bedding as many hugely talented black men as possible.

    Bond film #27 will actually set out to destroy the franchise. Such a pity as I was looking forward to a feminine Bond naming her car the Aston Martini.

  95. Memoryvault

    Winston Smith
    #3107763, posted on July 15, 2019 at 11:36 am

    I fail to see your point, Winston.
    Your subsequent quote perfectly describes what is happening right now.
    I certainly have no argument.
    Here at the Cat is perfect example of its effectiveness.
    Just read back through this morning’s comments for examples.

  96. Helen

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3107679, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:28 am

    New age relic.
    Own John Lennon’s decayed tooth for $31K: The big business of celeb memorabilia
    I wonder if the new owner will build a temple to house it in?

    No, he/she will take it to China, extract dna and impregnate themselves with the JL clone. JL clone being a direct descendant of JL (dna match proves this) entitled to lay claim to all.
    31K? Baragin!

  97. Robert Mc

    Wherein the homosexual author directly compares Israel Folau to Adolf Hitler.”

    Who wrote this garbage?

    C.L. wrote that garbage. Go read the article, it does not directly compare Folau to H1tl3r.

    But you will also probably see it the same way as C.L.

    Maybe you should watch this instead.

  98. cohenite

    Don’t push your own inadequacies onto the rest of us cronkite. It’s unseemly and unjustified.

    Sure, I just knew you’d been to the Moon; it explains your gravitational free comments.

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    Such a pity as I was looking forward to a feminine Bond naming her car the Aston Martini.

    Agreed. There’s a lot going for an elegant lady Bond character. La Femme Nikita was awesome. And Scarlett Johanssen’s Natasha Romanova is superb.

    They could even do it these days, as Cpt Marvel shows. She is irredeemably woke, but sold plenty tickets.

    I want someone to do an Honor Harrington movie. About as kick-ass a female lead as you could get.

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When and if a serious aborigine Constitutional recognition referendum proposal is ever put to the the Australian people I will be running to my nearest bookie with every bit of spare cash I can raise to back a negative result.

    Stand in line, buddy.

    I wish I shared your optimism. I forecast a sickeningly sweet “yes” campaign “It’s been two hundred years since evil Debbil Debbil whiteman poisoned all the waterholes, and gave out small pox infected blankets. Put things right for our indigenous brothers and sisters! Vote “Yes.”

  101. Memoryvault

    There’s a lot going for an elegant lady Bond character.

    BoN,
    Surely you are old enough to remember Emma Peel?

  102. Eyrie

    No movie but a song, BoN:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXxTB30lfv0
    “our lady needs an honor guard”

  103. Memoryvault

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3107774, posted on July 15, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    Zulu,
    As I said last night and have said many times before, there will be no Aboriginal Recognition Referendum. Why bother when they can accomplish much more by Treaty without pesky voters getting in the way.

    It’s already happening.

  104. Eyrie

    Watched SBS “Chasing the Moon” last night. Allegedly the Kennedys wanted a black astronaut so sent a black fighter pilot to test pilot school to make him eligible. He wasn’t doing so well so instead of failing some of the class including him, they graduated them all, that time. Not sure whether Chuck Yeager who was Commandant of the school at the time should sue or not. Never heard this story anywhere else. Could be just gratuitous racial angle that had nothing to do with anything really and didn’t do anything for the doco.
    Anyway the guy didn’t make astronaut selection. End of story.

  105. dover_beach

    From the article CL mentions above:

    When gay or transgender children, without a solid system of community support, hear that their existence is the work of the devil, and that they are going to hell as a result, it does not take much foresight to envision the mental health consequences.

    Folau never said that people with SSA are the ‘work of the devil’ nor that ‘they are going to hell as a result’. Further, the mental health claim that the five-fold rate of suicide for those with SSA and eighteen-fold rate for those confused about their sex, compared with those with neither, is the result of social disapproval is confounded by the fact that countries which lack any such social disapproval experience no decline in the rate of suicide for either. The contention of the article is founded on a mischaracterization of Folau’s, and orthodox Christianity’s, position viz SSA, and upon a premise which is simply assumed and no where actually demonstrated, namely, that there is nothing wrong with those with SSA or sex/gender dysphoria, and that the very high rates of suicide or self-harm that they experience are entirely the fault of society.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    FMD.
    Two of the most epic sports events in a generation overnight, and the midday FoxSports show leads off with a ten minute (so far) presser about the sacking of a coach from some backwater rugger club.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    MV – For whatever reason The Avengers weren’t on the box when I was a kid, though I’m old enough to’ve watched the first series of Dr Who. Maybe it was a family thing, seeing the tv was a sort of altar in those days (ours was in a beautiful wooden cabinet with doors to close over the screen). My parents never have been interested in spy stuff.

    On the other hand 99 was yummy. Watched many an episode of Get Smart after school.

  108. dover_beach

    From the article CL mentions above:

    When gay or transgender children, without a solid system of community support, hear that their existence is the work of the devil, and that they are going to hell as a result, it does not take much foresight to envision the mental health consequences.

    Folau never said that people with SSA are the ‘work of the devil’ nor that ‘they are going to hell as a result’. Further, the mental health claim that the five-fold rate of suicide for those with SSA and eighteen-fold rate for those confused about their sex, compared with those with neither, is the result of social disapproval is confounded by the fact that countries which lack any such social disapproval experience no decline in the rate of suicide for either. The contention of the article is founded on a mischaracterization of Folau’s, and orthodox Christianity’s, position viz SSA, and upon a premise which is simply assumed and no where actually demonstrated, namely, that there is nothing wrong with those with SSA or sex/gender dysphoria, and that the very high rates of suicide or self-harm that they experience are entirely the fault of society.

  109. cohenite

    The thing about the Reg Lindsay Armstrong on the Moon song is that it anticipates every complaint made by the lefties about wasting money on space exploration. The lefties say there are too many problems on Earth to waste money going to the Moon. But as the song so wonderfully evokes, such endeavours as the Moon landing are inspirational and help humanity to overcome and deal with problems. Of course the left’s solutions to everything just make them worse. Alarmism is a case in point. Nearly 2 trillion has been wasted on alarmism and renewables. For $2 trillion we could have had a permanent base on the Moon and fossil and nuclear energy everywhere.

    Alarmists and the left should be on the Moon, without any space suits.

  110. Roger

    Sounds like a good letter to the editor, dover.

  111. None

    You gonna have to be very careful about this Aboriginal recognition thing because tTextor of Crosby Textor is very much into the recognition game and he will crunch the numbers for them to work out who to Target in order to get the majority vote in the majority States. Tge yes campaign will run the same sort of campaign tas they did say for Cameron in UK and Morrison here. They will say whatever it takes to the people you are the softest targets. That means you’re going to have to start agitating against it now and targeting those same people. Remember all of corporate Opia is going to get on to this bandwagon as well and we’ve already started with the rugby league.

  112. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie at 12:11.
    I watched something on the History Channel which seemed to imply that the Kennedy Bros were keen to select astronauts with hawt wives.
    I haven’t seen much so far, but I get an uneasy feeling that the TV coverage of the 50th anniversary of the moon landing will be a combination of New Idea and UFO fruitcakes.

  113. None

    Further to Dover’s excellent comment above, pay attention to this sentence in the article:

    When gay or transgender children, without a solid system of community support,

    this sentence should have everyone up in arms. Note the mention of children in a context where children should never be mentioned and the absence of any mention that a family.

  114. notafan

    I don’t doubt that adopting a livestyple contrary to Christian belief and the natural law is a source of feelings of sadness for gays

    Not to mention

    Coming down from the esctasy and sex fueled bathhouse high must be difficult, every single time

    and those relationships that are formed are really satisfying, in any meaningful long term way

    Married men are much happier.

    danish suicide facts

  115. mh

    The Democrat war on Uncle Toms

    Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), a member of the “Squad” that Democrats claim was the target of a racist attack by President Donald Trump on Sunday, told left-wing bloggers Sunday afternoon: “We don’t need any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.

    (Breitbart)

    Maybe it can catch on here. We don’t need any more white faces in Canberra that don’t want to be a white voice.

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    No movie but a song, BoN

    Nice track Eyrie, very Steeleye Spannish.

  117. Memoryvault

    On the other hand 99 was yummy.
    Watched many an episode of Get Smart after school.

    No arguments from me re Agent 99, BoN. Positively yummy.
    But we were discussing a Lady James Bond – here’s Emma James Bonding a bad guy.

  118. C.L.

    And the new Jane Bond fillums will be Thunderclit, Dr No means No, A bort and Let Die, Octoknob, From Russia with Collusion and Quantum of Misogyny. All villains will be called Donald. Chief spy, M, will have to become F. The Aston Martins will be Teslas. Chief scientist Q will have to be LGBTIQ. If they’re going to do it properly that is.

    Daniel Craig has been a great Bond and the stories have been good in his era.
    But …
    Certain things have chipped away at the franchise’s greatness. Instead of continuing to be an MI6 admin officer, Moneypenny (now black, of course) became a 22 year-old field sniper for the British secret service. Uh-huh. Then there was the balls-bashing torture scene in Casino Royale – which almost seemed like a ritual punishment of Bond’s fan-base rather than a scene that added anything at all to the narrative. Naturally, a homosexual was wheeled out (Skyfall) and Bond was made to say to him that, hey, maybe he – Bond – has enjoyed a bit of sodomy (with men) over the years too. And of course the execrable, horrible Judy Dench as “M.” The best recent development in the series was her slow death. Every audience in the world secretly cheered.

  119. C.L.

    And the new Jane Bond fillums will be Thunderclit, Dr No means No, A bort and Let Die, Octoknob, From Russia with Collusion and Quantum of Misogyny. All villains will be called Donald. Chief spy, M, will have to become F. The Aston Martins will be Teslas. Chief scientist Q will have to be LGBTIQ. If they’re going to do it properly that is.

    Daniel Craig has been a great Bond and the stories have been good in his era.
    But …
    Certain things have chipped away at the franchise’s greatness. Instead of continuing to be an MI6 admin officer, Moneypenny (now black, of course) became a 22 year-old field sniper for the British secret service. Uh-huh. Then there was the testicle-bashing torture scene in Casino Royale – which almost seemed like a ritual punishment of Bond’s fan-base rather than a scene that added anything at all to the narrative. Naturally, a homosexual was wheeled out (Skyfall) and Bond was made to say to him that, hey, maybe he – Bond – has enjoyed a bit of sodomy (with men) over the years too. And of course the execrable, horrible Judy Dench as “M.” The best recent development in the series was her slow death. Every audience in the world secretly cheered.

  120. JC

    Cronkite

    There will be space exploration – increasingly so. It will come from the private sphere though.

    An article in Reason Magazine, about a decade ago, ran a piece suggesting that a government sponsored visit to Mars would cost around $500 billion ( dollars from a least a decade ago). Estimates on doing it privately were about US$50 billion.

    A big government guy like you though would prefer the government option, right?

    Ultimately, space exploration will require the profit motive and the lead times will be very long. The potenial payout though could be yuge. Speculation suggests there are entire meteors made of gold/platinum and diamonds! Of course finding an enormous load of gold would cause the price to drop materially. However, there would be incredible applications for widely available cheap gold like in tech.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    I get an uneasy feeling that the TV coverage of the 50th anniversary of the moon landing will be a combination of New Idea and UFO fruitcakes.

    The Right Stuff could never be made in the age of the wokerati.
    I must watch it again.
    Meanwhile here is Gen. Chuck Yeager’s twitter feed.
    He’s 96, only four more years to break the century barrier.

  122. egg_

    The thing that strikes me about the woke people is how astonishingly crass they are.

    Spacechook bogans.

  123. egg_

    There will be space exploration – increasingly so.

    IIRC NASA’s goal was always Mars – another planet – the Moon was a political impost.

  124. C.L.

    I’m happy to be proved wrong, but I’m betting on a narrow win for any referendum. The “White Guilt” and “Race” cards will be played early and often, during a very slick and polished campaign.

    The gay “marriage” campaign will be the template. First of all, there will be no formal “No” case put to the public by the Liberals.The ABC, SBS and all of the networks, all of the corporates and all of the sports administration nazis and celebrities will make even the voicing of “No” a social crime. “No” advocates will be hounded, defamed, mocked, harassed and called – YAWN – “racists.”

  125. JC

    My hunch is that widespread space exploration and going for the quick buck will take another 50 to 100 years. Space elevators will change the dynamics completely. That will take some time.

  126. Memoryvault

    Here you go, BoN –
    The consummate Emma Peel.

    Keep in mind this was in the early Sixties – no stunt men or women back then.

  127. Mother Lode

    When and if a serious aborigine Constitutional recognition referendum proposal is ever put to the the Australian people I will be running to my nearest bookie with every bit of spare cash I can raise to back a negative result.

    It would be a true own goal.

    If all the people who feel hemmed in by shouty voices are given a chance to effect a modicum of rebellion in the privacy of a ballot booth they might discover they are not a tiny minority.

  128. egg_

    Apollo 10 commander Thomas Stafford pats a stuffed Snoopy* on the snout as he heads to the launch.

    *Apollo 10’s “Snoopy” Lunar Lander May Have Been Found in Space

    Hottie holding Snoopy.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    Naturally, a homosexual was wheeled out (Skyfall)

    How can anyone forget the awesome Mr Wint and Mr Kidd. Especially 007’s final comment after Mr Wint’s final denouement: “well he certainly left with his tail between his legs.”

  130. Leigh Lowe

    I’m happy to be proved wrong, but I’m betting on a narrow win for any referendum. The “White Guilt” and “Race” cards will be played early and often, during a very slick and polished campaign.

    Comparisons with the SSM postal vote are not valid.
    A lot of yes votes were on a “live and let live” basis as it wouldn’t impact our lives.
    I suspect there is more than a little buyers remorse there now.
    This is a change to the constitution to give a “voice” which will go who knows where in the hands of an activist judiciary.
    And it is a referendum.
    A majority of votes in a majority of states.
    The horse called “Yes” has shit form in these things.

  131. egg_

    May 18, 1969: Jamye Flowers (Coplin)* carries a stuffed Snoopy while Apollo 10 Lunar Module Pilot Gene Cernan carries her.

    *Astronaut Gordon Cooper’s Secretary.

  132. JC

    Although costs are falling, it’s over-the-top expensive to send shit into space. About US$2,000 per pound and that’s just reaching the karman line .. the boundary between the upper atmosphere and space.

  133. bespoke

    Leigh Lowe
    #3107786, posted on July 15, 2019 at 12:25 pm
    I haven’t seen much so far, but I get an uneasy feeling that the TV coverage of the 50th anniversary of the moon landing will be a combination of New Idea and UFO fruitcakes.

    The one the other night before the Apollo 13 movie was good. It had some about the roll of Australia in it.

  134. Memoryvault

    If all the people who feel hemmed in by shouty voices are given a chance to effect a modicum of rebellion in the privacy of a ballot booth they might discover they are not a tiny minority.

    Which is why it will never go to referendum. Besides, why bother?
    They are already implementing everything they want and more via Treaty.
    Witness QLD in the last 24 hours.

  135. thefrollickingmole

    Best way to defeat the idiocy of a separate nation within Australia is to ask the participants to declare this is the last demand, and the winding up of all “departments” and separate spending.

  136. JC

    Trumpster is still batting on twitter at 10.30 at night. He needs to get some sleep as it could be a busy day tomorrow after what he said about the hell girls.

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
    37m37 minutes ago

    We are doing great Economically as a Country, Number One, despite the Fed’s antiquated policy on rates and

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    The consummate Emma Peel.

    Thanks for that fine vid MV, and a great Cake track to go with it. I get the feeling they had a lot of fun shooting those episodes.

  138. jo

    Who saw the moon landing special on nein on saturday night. Voice over seemed to think the lunar calender lasted 27 days instead of 29.5 approx.

  139. Memoryvault

    I get the feeling they had a lot of fun shooting those episodes.

    Rumour has it she had even more fun in real life at the time, BoN.
    I would have been twelve or thirteen when I fell in lust love with her.

  140. egg_

    Astronaut Gordon Cooper

    Backup commander of the Apollo 10 mission.

  141. bespoke

    I did jo, did’t catch the error.

  142. Nick

    Remember when ‘sorry’ was meant to solve everything ?

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They are already implementing everything they want and more via Treaty.
    Witness QLD in the last 24 hours.

    I’m betting on a legal dogfight of monumental proportions as the various clans declare themselves not bound by any treaty negotiated by someone else, and demanding a separate treaty be negotiated with them.

  144. JC

    How many court cases does fatso have going at any one time?

    A cashed-up Clive Palmer has insisted he will not pay out more than $200m owed to creditors of his failed Queensland Nickel company because it is for the “greater good” that he keep fighting.

    Liquidators are pursuing the former federal MP and a slew of his companies over the debts relating to Queensland Nickel’s 2016 collapse, with a Queensland Supreme Court civil trial due to begin today.

    He’s a walking supreme court.

  145. Percy Popinjay

    The consummate Emma Peel

    Detailing how she dealt with Poor Li’l Joffrey, before experiencing her own fatal event at the hands of the aggrieved father.

    “He always was a *&#!”

    Trigger Warning: GoT spoilers

  146. Memoryvault

    I’m betting on a legal dogfight of monumental proportions as the various clans declare themselves not bound by any treaty negotiated by someone else, and demanding a separate treaty be negotiated with them.

    Of course, Zulu. And eventually they will get both. After a lengthy legal battle, of course.
    The Indigenees will be happy, the do gooders and their sycophant politicians will be happy, and the lawyers will be happy. Only the stupid, mug taxpayers footing the bill will complain.

    And they don’t count.

  147. egg_

    Gene Cernan had promised to take along a last-minute souvenier in his suit pocket for Jamye Flowers Coplin (a secretary at KSC). On the way out of the suit-up building she surprised him with the huge Snoopy, so he went with it and scooped them both towards the elevator.

  148. ZK2A:

    Mr Mansell said yesterday he saw the voice as benign. “It will have no legislative powers, ­deliver no services, return no land, have no budget to distribute,” he wrote in a letter to The Australian.
    “It cannot override, impede or interfere with parliamentary processes.
    “In fact, it is powerless. The voice cannot impose any obligations on governments nor create any rights for Aboriginal people. It can only advise.’

    There are several answers to this:
    If it’s that powerless, why bother?
    A smoking ban is only for short distance air travel.
    This is my last territorial claim in Europe.

  149. Bruce of Newcastle

    Powerline getting the vapors over Tump’s comment’s.

    Hinderaker is usually very good, surprised he hasn’t seen how on-the-money Trump is.
    Omar is at 9% and AOC at 22% approval.
    The fab four are as obnoxious a bunch as the Dems’ve ever had.
    Even the Lefty MSM wants them to go away.

    To The Surprise Of Nobody, Dems Internal Polling Shows Swing Voters Don’t Like Progressives

  150. Percy Popinjay

    Grate. Blair’s blog now entirely paywalled. Mission accomplished, Newscorpse.

  151. Eyrie

    JC, estimated cost per pound delivered to low Earth orbit by Starship/Super Heavy (excluding ship amortisation) is in the region of just over US$20. First orbital flights in 18 months or so. They are building prototypes in Texas and Florida now. Welding them together out of stainless steel mostly in the open. Real spaceships being made in a shipyard.
    If Musk stays alive and solvent the real space age is closer than you think.

  152. rickw

    I wish I shared your optimism. I forecast a sickeningly sweet “yes” campaign “It’s been two hundred years since evil Debbil Debbil whiteman poisoned all the waterholes, and gave out small pox infected blankets. Put things right for our indigenous brothers and sisters! Vote “Yes.”

    Yes will get up, Australia is now so swamped with White Haters that nothing other than this will happen.

    Old Australia was so unmoving in its view of International Socialism that the fix was to swamp it.

    The fix is now complete. Living Hell will quickly follow.

  153. Percy Popinjay

    It can only advise

    Meanwhile Labore and the Greenfilth will duly implement everything “the voice” advises them to.

    As such, it will be yet another voice to add to the unrelenting cacophony in Sarah Hyphen-Dung’s thick empty bonce.

  154. JC

    Eyrie

    I read it cost US$ 70 million to send 41,000 lbs of payload into space. That works out 70,000,000/41,000. Sending people would cost more, which is why I rounded off to $US2,000. I think $20 is a little aspirational.

  155. Memoryvault

    Welding them together out of stainless steel mostly in the open.

    I was researching that just the other day, Eyrie, and stumbled over an interesting factoid.
    The original Centaur space rockets built in the late 1950’s were made from stainless steel.
    And to protect the steel during construction a new product was invented –

    WD40.

    Who says Mankind does not benefit immensely from space exploration?

  156. rickw

    He’s 96, only four more years to break the century barrier.

    Not that long ago that Chuck was cruising around Europe in a P-51D vaporising Krauts at will.

  157. Robert Mc

    Watched SBS “Chasing the Moon” last night. Allegedly the Kennedys wanted a black astronaut so sent a black fighter pilot to test pilot school to make him eligible…
    Never heard this story anywhere else.

    Here you go. Read all about it.

    – Ed Dwight Jr is sculptor with decades of experience and international reputation.
    – Dwight was selected by President John F. Kennedy’s administration to receive training to become an astronaut in 1961.
    – This makes him the first black man to acquire training as an astronaut for the Apollo moon landing mission.
    – However, following President Kennedy’s assassination, his successor hand-picked a different African-American pilot, Robert Henry Lawrence, Jr. to become the first black astronaut.
    – Lawrence never made it to space because he was killed in a plane crash in 1967.

  158. JC

    Anyways, “who knows” if they’re really going to space. Maybe it’s all made up in Hollywood. 🙂

  159. Mother Lode

    I think Trump is saying what a lot of people already think. Seeing the turbaned twat telling them they have to change, when the land she comes from is a shambles.

    People would instantly want to say “Who the hell are you telling me…” but they have been told they are not allowed to say it.

    But they want to.

  160. notafan

    Referendum has been put on hold for years because pollies have been told it would be dismal failure..

    What has changed?

  161. Percy Popinjay

    Maybe it’s all made up in Hollywood

    If a certain Avian individual was still gracing this blog he’d no doubt be railing about what an egregious fabrication the Moon landings were, while detailing the nefarious role of Jooish economists in the subsequent cover up.

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    WD40 is second only to duct tape in the pantheon of the ineffable Bunnings.
    I quite like Teflon too, although the greens have their knickers in a twist about it lately.
    We’re all dying like flies because of Teflon frypans!
    Not.

  163. notafan

    The Turnbull Government has carefully considered the Referendum Council’s call to amend the Constitution to provide for a national Indigenous representative assembly to constitute a “Voice to Parliament”.

    The Government does not believe such an addition to our national representative institutions is either desirable or capable of winning acceptance in a referendum.

    Our democracy is built on the foundation of all Australian citizens having equal civic rights – all being able to vote for, stand for and serve in either of the two chambers of our national Parliament – the House of Representatives and the Senate.

    A constitutionally enshrined additional representative assembly for which only Indigenous Australians could vote for or serve in is inconsistent with this fundamental principle.

    It would inevitably become seen as a third chamber of Parliament. The Referendum Council noted the concerns that the proposed body would have insufficient power if its constitutional function was advisory only.

    Response to Referendum Council’s report on Constitutional Recognition

  164. notafan

    A constitutionally enshrined additional representative assembly for which only Indigenous Australians

    looking forward to who’s who in the zoo bunfight too

  165. max

    JC, it’s as bad as the Frank Walker ads.

    Frank set up the FP Foundation. Seriously.

    He made so much from flogging tiles, he said he wanted to give back. You can tell he writes those lame ads.

    Hell is Frank Walker’s voice played on an endless loop.

    In purgatory you just get those annoying kids for the Peace Foundation.

  166. John Constantine

    Act.
    Roughly 20% of electricity in the U.S. is generated by nuclear power, but over 92% of uranium fuel used in nuclear reactors is imported from abroad, largely from Canada, Australia, Russia and Kazakhstan.
    The memo signed by Trump late Friday said the president did not concur with Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross’ finding that uranium imports threaten to impair national security. In April, Ross gave the White House a report that concluded the quotas would benefit national security; details of the report have yet to be released.
    Trump did, however, agree that the impact of the supply chain on national security warrants further review. The order assigns a number of cabinet members, including Interior Secretary David Bernhardt, to a United States Nuclear Fuel Working Group, which will have 90 days to “develop recommendations for reviving and expanding domestic nuclear fuel production.”

    SLX silex an old favourite comes off its year highs today on news Trump won’t legislate to replace uranium imports with american production. The concept that silex has huge above ground uranium stockpiles, if its tech can reprocess uranium power plant toxic waste into usuable fuel sounds good and twenty years of hopes have seen slx tradeable, but twenty years of downsides has seen it not holdable.

    Not currently holding SLX.

  167. Percy Popinjay

    Government has carefully considered the Referendum Council’s call to amend the Constitution to provide for a national Indigenous representative assembly to constitute a “Voice to Parliament”.

    The Government does not believe such an addition to our national representative institutions is either desirable or capable of winning acceptance in a referendum.

    There’s only one public figure in this country capable of uniting voter opinion in favour of this mighty endeavour.

  168. Memoryvault

    Good morrow Elle.
    Sleep well?

  169. Ellie

    MV, I stayed up late – tennis, vodka, tennis. Day off work. Chilling. You?

  170. Percy Popinjay

    Hell is Frank Walker’s voice played on an endless loop.

    Depends on which circle you end up in. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the others featured Gillard’s voice.

  171. Ellie

    Just sayin, but Jonathan Green is a bald headed flog.

  172. Lysander

    Ugh Ellie I feel your pain… why did I stay up till 2am watching tennis and then decide to go to work!

    Ugh!… five hours till home time…

  173. Memoryvault

    Always ready for action, Elle.
    Comes from being so trim, taut and terrific.

    And I guess the major heart rebuild last year when I was dying, helped a little bit too.

  174. Ellie

    Lysander. Count down! You’re almost there.

  175. Ellie

    Bless your heart, MV. ❤

  176. Lysander

    4 hours and 58 minutes… 🙂

  177. Ellie

    Keep counting, Lysander.

  178. JC:

    An article in Reason Magazine, about a decade ago, ran a piece suggesting that a government sponsored visit to Mars would cost around $500 billion ( dollars from a least a decade ago). Estimates on doing it privately were about US$50 billion.
    A big government guy like you though would prefer the government option, right?

    Pay 50 Billion dollars to the first team to set up a permanent moon base.

  179. dover_beach

    danish suicide facts

    Notafan, it would be interesting to see that study updated to include the last two decades. I found this recent cross-country study that substantially confirms the Danish study, and suggests as well that SSA but abstinent attempt suicide significantly less than SSA but sexually active, while those who are largely but not only opposite-sex attracted do far better than both but nowhere near as well as only opposite-sex attracted.

  180. Ellie

    trim, taut and terrific.

    Awesome! I admire an older gent who takes care of himself.

  181. Memoryvault

    Pay 50 Billion dollars to the first team to set up a permanent moon base.

    Musk has no interets in the moon, Winston.
    He reckons there’s nothing there to make the effort worthwhile. His eyes have always been focussed on a permanent base on Mars, as a launching pad for the rest of space.

    Nonetheless, he is now playing a central role in NASA’s plans to return to the moon. The U.S. government is footing the bill and Musk sees it as an opportunity to get finance for the technology development he will need to get to Mars.

    A win-win arrangement for both parties.

  182. rickw

    I think Trump is saying what a lot of people already think. Seeing the turbaned twat telling them they have to change, when the land she comes from is a shambles.

    What Trump is saying is thought by pretty much everyone WRT mouthy immigrants who’ve escaped shitholes.

  183. Memoryvault

    Awesome! I admire an older gent who takes care of himself.

    That immediately raises two critical questions, Elle.

    How big is your husband, and
    How fast can he run?

  184. None

    I am sure I am not the only one who doesn’t want to hear about MV’s oral sex adventures with his dead wife and Ellie’s smutty remarks about erections. Enough. Take it off blog you demented morons. Use your email. Get a room. Whatever.

  185. Ellie

    I wasn’t even thinking of erections. You were, it seems

  186. notafan

    Yes it would DB

    I think I have read something similar about either the Netherlands or
    Sweden but was a newspaper article not a study.

  187. Memoryvault

    I wasn’t even thinking of erections. You were, it seems

    Forget it Elle.
    None is all a tiz because neither Knuckles nor the bogan are here for her to vent her sexual frustrations on.

  188. Ellie

    Correction – fuck off, bitch!

  189. egg_

    African-American pilot, Robert Henry Lawrence, Jr. to become the first black astronaut.

    Afronaut?

  190. I watched Chris Kenny last night on Sky and I got very, very cross with him….he was advocating for all this Wyatt indigenous recognition crap….Kenny talked over John Ruddock and Kel Richards. Both Ruddock and Richards, like most normal Australians, articulated grave reservations about Wyatt’s proposals. Kenny interrupted them, sneered and mocked them and was basically saying that the proposed indigenous voice was NOT going to be a third chamber of parliament…it was only “advisory”….yeah….anyone remember ATSIC?

  191. Eyrie

    JC, you are way behind the times on space. I suggest you spend a few hours on some space websites like http://www.nasaspaceflight.com (it isn’t an official NASA site just run by enthusiasts). Look up the SpaceX threads.
    Starship/Super heavy is designed to be totally re-usable and just fuel and go again like an airliner, the $20 is basically the fuel cost which is about the same to fly a pound around the world in a jet airliner.

  192. The ‘pamperd townie hipsterisation’ of bull running

    What is an optimal number of Pamplona bull gorings?
    by Tyler Cowen July 15, 2019 at 12:38 am in Sports
    Two or more each year?:

    Longtime runners voiced their frustration that the event had been “totally adulterated” and said it was time to “say enough to the distortion of the run”.

    The problem for purists is not just that the run, known as the encierro, has become too safe — with only two gorings last year, the least since 1984 — but that the bulls are unable to break free from the highly trained steers that accompany them. This makes the adrenaline-fuelled race less dangerous but also less exciting.

    “For the runners, this is the end of the encierro as they know it,” said Joe Distler, a semi-retired American who ran the bulls for 50 years and took part in the protest in solidarity.

    For regular runners, a good day is when the bulls break free from the cabestros — the castrated steers that accompany them over the 875-metre course to the city bullring — and one can feel the adrenaline-drenched thrill of running half a block directly in the front of a bull’s horns before letting it pass.

  193. Eyrie

    I’d vote for a “Forever War” movie as long as they don’t stuff it up like “Starship Troopers”.
    If you want a raw take on a conscript grunt in Vietnam, read Haldeman’s “1968”. He was a combat engineer, wounded in action.
    (at risk of triggering a certain lefty I guess)

  194. Mark from Melbourne

    Om the origin of the video clip…

    Whilst Real Thing does indeed have some shots of actual singing, I think the producer (Molly Meldrum) has some rights to the title of “first” (1969) …

  195. Memoryvault

    JC, you are way behind the times on space.

    It is certainly an exciting time to be alive, Eyrie.
    I reckon Musk will have his fully operational space station/colony on Mars by 2030. In conjunction with NASA, presumably. The only stumbling block is Trump bullet-proofing the U.S. against the coming climate changes, and I think he will do that.

    I only hope I’ll still be alive to see it. A long shot I know, but a boy can dream, can’t he?

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wind farm ‘new Franklin Dam’: Bob Brown

    Exclusive
    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    35 minutes ago July 15, 2019
    23 Comments

    Bob Brown has defended his fight against a proposed wind farm in northern Tasmania, saying the project goes too far, comparing it to the Franklin Dam.

    The former Greens leader has shocked many over his protests against a wind farm project on Robbins Island over its visual impacts and the threat the massive windmills pose to birdlife.

    Dr Brown told The Australian today that the wind farm has social and economic consequences which have to be debated, and that he fears the profits of the farm will not flow to Tasmanians.

    “I’m a big supporter of renewable energy and energy efficiency but this massive wind-farm goes too far,” he said.

    “It’s comparable to the Franklin Dam for hydro-energy … you have to look to the environmental, economic and social consequences of this wind farm.

    “The wind towers are taller than any building in Tasmania.

    “And we’re one of the poorest states. I’m concerned the profits of this project will not go to Tasmanians, but to the multinational building it.”

    Dr Brown was a leader in the environmental movement of the 1980s which ultimately stopped the Franklin Dam, and it helped spark his political career and the rise of the Greens.

    The proposed Robbins Island wind farm in Tasmania’s northwest will be one of the world’s biggest, with up to 200 towers measuring 270m high from ground to blade tip.

    If it goes ahead, electricity from the Robbins Island project will be sent to the mainland via a new ­undersea cable to help make Tasmania a “battery for the nation.”

    Dr Brown said today he wants more transparency around the wind farm.

    “Let’s open the books on this wind farm. Let’s debate the wind farm,” he told The Australian.

    “Show us the parameters of the project and let the public in … both governments have tried to push this wind farm through

    From the Oz. Has Bob Brown finally gone bonkers?

  197. Shy Ted

    The guy sat next to me on the train pulled out a photo of his wife and said, “She’s beautiful, isn’t she?”
    I said, “If you think she’s beautiful, you should see my missus mate.”
    He said, “Why? Is she a stunner?”
    I said, “No, she’s an optician!”

  198. cuckoo

    To any space buffs, I can recommend the documentary Apollo 11, particularly on IMAX. Some of the restored 70mm footage, of the blastoff and the capsule recovery, is stunning. I guarantee you will be holding your breath during the Eagle landing.

  199. Roger

    …anyone remember ATSIC?

    Anyone remember when land rights was supposed to be the panacea for wrongs done to indigenous folk?

    The goal posts keep getting shifted.

    Noel Pearson let the cat out of the bag: the “voice” will not be a parliamentary chamber but it will have say over legislation.

  200. Sinclair Davidson

    Gentlepeople – it seems to me that a lot of people have either become extra grumpy or more judgemental.

    None – you will have noticed that many of your nasty personal attacks are not getting through the automoderator. We are a pretty tolerant bunch around here and the insults do fly thick and fast. So if what you’re saying doesn’t get through then you should thinking about toning it down and not doubling down. Just saying.

  201. “The goal posts keep getting shifted.”

    Of course…that’s what the left do….the goalposts get wider and wider and wider….remember the “love is love” crap.

    We ain’t seen nothing yet.

  202. Eyrie

    “It is certainly an exciting time to be alive, Eyrie.”
    Sure is, Peter. Only pity is that rockets could have been landed vertically on rocket power back in the late 1970’s but it wasn’t done. Then we’d be at least 30 years ahead of where we are now although maybe it took a couple of super rich space enthusiasts to make it happen instead of government, which we didn’t have 40 years ago.
    I have my doubts about Bezos though. He doesn’t seem to be in any rush where Musk takes risks, sometimes fails but re-designs and goes on. SpaceX never seems to make the same mistake twice.

  203. notafan

    Has Bob Brown finally gone bonkers?

    What do you mean finally?

    he has been bonkers since he arrived in Tasmania, and probably before then.

    My dad has been dead 30 years and had no kind words for BB

    He said when BB first burst on to the scene, and he was so right

    “This is what you get when people have no religious faith, they just create a new one”

  204. None

    Cassie
    Chris Kenny is no conservative. As he says he even voted for the nuclear disarmament party once. When he worked for the Libs he worked for Downer who’s as wet as wet and he is friends with stott-despoja who married downer’s business partner (lobbying business). Before that his journalism career spannrd such conservative bastions like the ABC and The Advertiser ( known locally for many years as Rann’s rag). He is strong on border control and terrorism and is total left pap on everything else. In fact he spends more time bagging other journalists than actually breaking stories or giving decent analysis. He thinks that he is the be all and end all on Aboriginal matters because he blew the whistle on the Hindmarsh Island Affair years ago. And he did well to do that but that is probably the first and only time that he actually practiced as a journalist. He hates conservatives but he’s got enough political nous not too bag them too often publicly. So all you saw on Sky was the real Kenny peeping out.

  205. Memoryvault

    From the Oz. Has Bob Brown finally gone bonkers?

    No, just displaying a typical NIMBY attitude.
    He’s never raised any such concerns about all the other windfarms built here over the pas 20 years.

  206. bespoke

    Memoryvault
    #3107841, posted on July 15, 2019 at 1:33 pm
    Who says Mankind does not benefit immensely from space exploration?

    Silly old fart kept banging about “what has space exploration done for us, Velcro?” Until I pointed out the mobile in his hand and the GPS in his car. Nope did’t stop him. So at a meeting I replied “the opportunity to to get away from pricks like you” that did the job. Anyway it’s not just about commercial interest it’s what we do.

  207. Top Ender

    A rather good article from Oriel:

    No phoenix in Labor’s ashes
    Jennifer Oriel The Australian July 15, 2019

    Labor is searching for answers to explain its long losing streak. Its internal review will likely produce standard frank and fearless advice about improving communication, democratising the party to engage the base, increasing membership, tapping into grassroots movements and closing the credibility gap. But the problems besetting Labor cannot be resolved by perception management. The party is floundering in no-man’s land.

    Throughout the election campaign, former Labor leader Bill Shorten struggled to convince voters he could be trusted. He could win a debating point and led the party to poll favourably on some policy issues, but his lack of popular appeal persisted.

    The credibility gap was more than political. Shorten could not master the narrative because Labor could not reconcile its origins as a party of the working class with the identity politics that has come to consume it.

    The extent of the crisis engulfing Labor was revealed in Queensland last week. It has been a horror year for the state’s resources industry: six workers have died in mines and quarries. Despite the tragedies, the government’s mining safety committee did not meet for months. The reason? It did not have enough women to meet the Labor government’s gender target.

    Premier Annastacia Palasz­czuk has been vocal in support of a 50 per cent gender equity target for boards by next year. Queensland’s Coal Mining Safety and Health Advisory Committee, tasked with providing advice to the minister, went missing in action during a critical period because it did not satisfy Labor’s gender agenda.

    One might expect a degree of outrage that Labor appears to have put political correctness before basic human rights. Between the Labor Left’s war on mines and the Right’s PC elitism, all that’s left for workers is outdated class-war rhetoric.

    Ironically, Palaszczuk once attributed Labor’s electoral defeats to the party losing its way. She thought the recovery of core principles, such as workers’ rights, would pave the way to redemption. Yet at a critical juncture her government failed to practise good governance to safeguard workers. Nothing quite captures the dire state of modern Labor like miners dying on the job while the party prioritises gender ideology.
    But the Western left’s transition from a movement of workers’ rights and legal equality to a party of political correctness and affirmative action seems irreversible.

    The decline in support for left-wing parties is partly attributable to the popular backlash against PC. One response has been to turn hard left. The discredited ideology of socialism is making a comeback.
    Red chic is returning to campuses teeming with undergraduates born long after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Centre for Independent Studies commissioned research into the trend of youth lurching left. The survey of young Australians found 58 per cent of those born between 1980 and 1996 held a favourable opinion of socialism. University-educated millennials were particularly susceptible to seeing socialism through rose-coloured glasses: 63 per cent viewed it favourably.

    Young people are turning a deeper shade of red in the US, too. A poll published by Axios this year found that American youth were more willing to embrace socialism than previous generations. Sixty-one per cent of people aged between 18 and 24 had a positive reaction to the word socialism. As observed in many polls, fond feelings for socialism tend to decrease as citizens mature. Overall, 39 per cent of Americans were “well-disposed toward socialism”.

    The US Democrats are trying to spin gold from the revival of red chic. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist-leaning Democrat who made this year’s Time 100 most influential people list. She has joined three other female Democrats — Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley — in pushing the barrow for open borders and divisive identity politics.

    To understand where leading American socialists sit on the scale of sense and sensibility, consider recent comments made by Bernie Sanders. In an interview with Teen Vogue, he said: “As president, what I will do is not only help transform the energy system of this country away from fossil fuels but bring the entire planet together.” He has yet to provide a strategic plan for the glorious planetary unification.

    The left’s experiment with socialism has taken a turn for the worse in Britain, where Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is dealing with fresh allegations of anti-Semitism from numerous former party officials. The BBC interviewed more than 20 former officials and uncovered up to 1000 allegations of anti-Semitism. Labour leaders have rejected the claims.

    Corbyn has a long record of sympathising with Islamists and communism. The BBC revealed that his communications chief, Seamus Milne, “worked for a magazine produced by the Communist Party of Great Britain”.

    Corbyn hired Andrew Murray for his campaign team. Murray was a Communist Party member who has publicly praised terrorists such as Joseph Stalin. After The Independent reported on Murray’s “Stalinist” sympathies, Corbyn said he was just “a democratic socialist and member of the Labour Party like me”. The British seem unconvinced about the supposedly harmless nature of Corbyn & co. A recent YouGov poll for The Times showed that only 18 per cent of respondents said they would vote Labour. It is the worst result since polling began.

    Despite the failure of socialism as a political project, the ALP is set to hire an apparent Corbyn fancier as national secretary. Brad Norington reported in The Australian the other day that Paul Erickson is favoured to take the coveted role. Erickson has described Corbyn as “within the mainstream of post-war social democracy” and praised his politics.

    Australians voted against Labor’s class-war rhetoric at the election. They rejected its weak position on national sovereignty and border security. They refused to vote for identity politics and social division. Whoever takes the role of rebuilding Labor will need all the skills of a master craftsman. It is unclear what foundations of the party still stand. All that remains is the ghost of class warfare and the sound of PC fury signifying nothing.

  208. feelthebern

    I can’t see Bob Brown’s anti wind farm stance being reporting in any of the Fairfax/Nein outlets.
    Can’t see it on the ABC website either.
    I wonder why?

  209. JC

    Memoryfault

    Don’t ever use my handle for any reason, you worthless animal. Stick to talking to your strength… cunnilingus and drug induced conspiracy theories, such as Turkey stealing American nukes. You fucked up dirtbag.

  210. Top Ender

    A rather good article from Oriel:

    No phoenix in Labor’s ashes
    Jennifer Oriel The Australian July 15, 2019

    Labor is searching for answers to explain its long losing streak. Its internal review will likely produce standard frank and fearless advice about improving communication, democratising the party to engage the base, increasing membership, tapping into grassroots movements and closing the credibility gap. But the problems besetting Labor cannot be resolved by perception management. The party is floundering in no-man’s land.

    Throughout the election campaign, former Labor leader Bill Shorten struggled to convince voters he could be trusted. He could win a debating point and led the party to poll favourably on some policy issues, but his lack of popular appeal persisted.

    The credibility gap was more than political. Shorten could not master the narrative because Labor could not reconcile its origins as a party of the working class with the identity politics that has come to consume it.

    The extent of the crisis engulfing Labor was revealed in Queensland last week. It has been a horror year for the state’s resources industry: six workers have died in mines and quarries. Despite the tragedies, the government’s mining safety committee did not meet for months. The reason? It did not have enough women to meet the Labor government’s gender target.

    Premier Annastacia Palasz­czuk has been vocal in support of a 50 per cent gender equity target for boards by next year. Queensland’s Coal Mining Safety and Health Advisory Committee, tasked with providing advice to the minister, went missing in action during a critical period because it did not satisfy Labor’s gender agenda.

    One might expect a degree of outrage that Labor appears to have put political correctness before basic human rights. Between the Labor Left’s war on mines and the Right’s PC elitism, all that’s left for workers is outdated class-war rhetoric.

    Ironically, Palaszczuk once attributed Labor’s electoral defeats to the party losing its way. She thought the recovery of core principles, such as workers’ rights, would pave the way to redemption. Yet at a critical juncture her government failed to practise good governance to safeguard workers. Nothing quite captures the dire state of modern Labor like miners dying on the job while the party prioritises gender ideology.
    But the Western left’s transition from a movement of workers’ rights and legal equality to a party of political correctness and affirmative action seems irreversible.

    The decline in support for left-wing parties is partly attributable to the popular backlash against PC. One response has been to turn hard left. The discredited ideology of socialism is making a comeback.
    Red chic is returning to campuses teeming with undergraduates born long after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The Centre for Independent Studies commissioned research into the trend of youth lurching left. The survey of young Australians found 58 per cent of those born between 1980 and 1996 held a favourable opinion of socialism. University-educated millennials were particularly susceptible to seeing socialism through rose-coloured glasses: 63 per cent viewed it favourably.

    Young people are turning a deeper shade of red in the US, too. A poll published by Axios this year found that American youth were more willing to embrace socialism than previous generations. Sixty-one per cent of people aged between 18 and 24 had a positive reaction to the word socialism. As observed in many polls, fond feelings for socialism tend to decrease as citizens mature. Overall, 39 per cent of Americans were “well-disposed toward socialism”.

    The US Democrats are trying to spin gold from the revival of red chic. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist-leaning Democrat who made this year’s Time 100 most influential people list. She has joined three other female Democrats — Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley — in pushing the barrow for open borders and divisive identity politics.

    To understand where leading American socialists sit on the scale of sense and sensibility, consider recent comments made by Bernie Sanders. In an interview with Teen Vogue, he said: “As president, what I will do is not only help transform the energy system of this country away from fossil fuels but bring the entire planet together.” He has yet to provide a strategic plan for the glorious planetary unification.

    The left’s experiment with socialism has taken a turn for the worse in Britain, where Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is dealing with fresh allegations of anti-Semitism from numerous former party officials. The BBC interviewed more than 20 former officials and uncovered up to 1000 allegations of anti-Semitism. Labour leaders have rejected the claims.

    Corbyn has a long record of sympathising with Is lamists and communism. The BBC revealed that his communications chief, Seamus Milne, “worked for a magazine produced by the Communist Party of Great Britain”.

    Corbyn hired Andrew Murray for his campaign team. Murray was a Communist Party member who has publicly praised terrorists such as Joseph Stalin. After The Independent reported on Murray’s “Stalinist” sympathies, Corbyn said he was just “a democratic socialist and member of the Labour Party like me”. The British seem unconvinced about the supposedly harmless nature of Corbyn & co. A recent YouGov poll for The Times showed that only 18 per cent of respondents said they would vote Labour. It is the worst result since polling began.

    Despite the failure of socialism as a political project, the ALP is set to hire an apparent Corbyn fancier as national secretary. Brad Norington reported in The Australian the other day that Paul Erickson is favoured to take the coveted role. Erickson has described Corbyn as “within the mainstream of post-war social democracy” and praised his politics.

    Australians voted against Labor’s class-war rhetoric at the election. They rejected its weak position on national sovereignty and border security. They refused to vote for identity politics and social division. Whoever takes the role of rebuilding Labor will need all the skills of a master craftsman. It is unclear what foundations of the party still stand. All that remains is the ghost of class warfare and the sound of PC fury signifying nothing.

  211. egg_

    Has Bob Brown finally gone bonkers?

    Headline: Old Fossil Objects to Non-fossil-fuel Plant – News at 11

  212. thefrollickingmole

    Fresh from the “dont piss in my pocket then tell me its raining” file.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/15/temporary-skilled-migration-has-not-undercut-australian-jobs-or-conditions-report-finds
    The top four occupations of those who were granted visas in 2017-2018 were developer programmer, ICT business analyst, university lecturer and cook.

    The report from the Committee for the Economic Development of Australia (CEDA), released on Monday, said that skilled migrants, particularly those on temporary skilled working visas, have been an “overwhelming net positive” for the Australian economy and have not had a negative impact on either the wages or participation rates of Australian-born workers.

    However, the report said that despite economic evidence suggesting migration is a positive, “governments have responded to community concern with a seeming revolving door of reviews, reports and frequent policy changes to Australia’s temporary skilled migration program”.

    They need to write this Nobel winning paper on how supply doesnt effect prices immediately.
    CEDA… hmmm.

    What a bunch of woketards.

    https://www.ceda.com.au/Membership/CEDA-members/CEDA-member-profiles
    CEDA plays an important part in advancing the national conversation on economic and social policy. Having a strong contest of policy ideas is central to my approach to the health portfolio, and I thank CEDA for its role in promoting informed, thoughtful debate.

    The Hon. Tanya Plibersek, Federal Deputy Opposition Leader, Shadow Minister for Education and Shadow Minister for Women

    ..
    Organisations like CEDA have an important role to play in promoting public policy debate about how we tackle the great challenges of the Global Recession and the long term productivity of this nation.

    The Hon. Julia Gillard, former prime minister of Australia


    I do just want to congratulate CEDA on the leadership they’re showing in our nation on assisting to address the under representation of women, particularly at senior leadership level, but not only that, to really persuasively put the case that gender equality benefits all of us.

    Elizabeth Broderick, former Sex Discrimination Commissioner, Australian Human Rights Commission

  213. stackja

    I believe for many the word schadenfreude comes to mind regarding Bob Brown and wind turbines.

  214. Roger

    Can’t see it on the ABC website either.

    If it’s there it’s well hidden.

    Lead item is on the AFP raid.

    Free speech for me but not for thee, deplorables.

  215. Ellie

    Doomlord, Master, Sir.
    Mmmmmmm

  216. JC

    Eyrie

    Musk’s rockets look like something from the 50s. They look stupid and their landing doesn’t appear to be stable. Taking freight up into space beyond that magic line can only be done efficiently with a elevator and that will take 50 to 100 years.

  217. P

    Recently came across this old 45. Memories of ’62.
    Dorothy Baker, the girl from Melbourne, who also appeared on the Graham Kennedy show, sings a cover of the Jo Ann Campbell hit, and it reached #5 on the Oz charts.

  218. max

    Three’s no crowd for loving Justin Jedlica
    Herald Sun-13 Jul 2019
    Down Under has become a second home for the “Human Ken Doll” Justin Jedlica, who is in a polyamorous relationship with two Australian men.
    LA-based Jedlica jets across the world to spend time with Melbourne couple Stephen Walden and Jayson McNaughton. The trio has become regulars in Canberra for the annual federal Budgets
    Jedlica, McNaughton and Walden were the most glamorous of guests – a fair achievement in a room of pageant queens – at the filming of the Behind the Sash documentary in Melbourne last week…..

    “The more people you have in your life to love you, the better,” he said.
    “We are family and we love each other and we trust each other. It might be unconventional to have more than just two people in a relationship but I love the relationship I have with them.”
    The US cosmetic surgery devotee approaches his body as a work of art ….

    We all knew this would be the follow-on from gay marriage and love is love.

    Trust … love … marriage .. family … hollow out the meaning and we all end up living in this kind of soup.

  219. “None
    #3107899, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:01 pm
    Cassie
    Chris Kenny is no conservative. “

    You’re right None….boy was he making me cross last night.

  220. JC

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3107909, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    https://youtu.be/JbDL4rI4zu8

    Isn’t Pornhub the appropriate venue for x rated talk instead of a blog on economics and politics? Just asking.

  221. None

    Sinclair,
    I have only had posts moderated if I use the standard term for cojones or use one of the spaminator words for adherents of certain religions. A lot of the time they are related to general comments about some news item or otherwise so no, I have not noticed anything.
    I have never complained to you about anyone’s abuse of me here or any of the pile ons – you will note that I actually didn’t respond to many of the abusive comments hurled at me last night but simply ignored them. Occasionally however I am happy to throw it back.
    Today I ignored yet more carry on about me and all I asked her and MV to do is to take their sex talk off blog. That the first time I pointed out that some of this banter was inappropriate I simply said TMI.
    If you search through some of the recent threads you will notice at least 2 people have complained about the same thing that I just did. If I recall correctly one used the term cunningulus so that should make that comment easy to find.

  222. “JC
    #3107913, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:13 pm
    Eyrie

    Musk’s rockets look like something from the 50s. They look stupid and their landing doesn’t appear to be stable. Taking freight up into space beyond that magic line can only be done efficiently with a elevator and that will take 50 to 100 years.”

    I am fascinated by the idea of a space elevator….the scientist who first thought of this was a Wussian.

  223. Ellie

    The politics of pube shaving, JC?

  224. Memoryvault

    Sure is, Peter.

    Thank you Eyrie. You make the fourth.

    Re your comment, I think I read somewhere that Bezos’ wasn’t interested in space per se, only in building and servicing a fleet of geo-stationary, low orbit luxury hotels for well-heeled tourists.

  225. Top Ender

    Brown was a loon in 1970s Hobart when I was a young bloke there. From memory he was a GP working in the Royal Hobart Hospital.

    His first big effort at big-noting himself was to complain about the USS Enterprise visiting Hobart.

    A US aircraft carrier and attendant ships on a multi-day visit would bring a big cash injection to the local shops. As it usually is, the Tasmanian economy was in the toilet. Everyone – well, 99% of the locals – welcomed the opportunities.

    Brown protested about the Enterprise being nuclear powered, by going and sitting on top of Mt Wellington. I forget the time of year but it’s usually cold up there any month. Myself and mates got a visit to the Enterprise, and Brown surveyed it all from atop the mountain for several days.

    He was then off to the Wilderness Society, and his career path was set for the next 40 years.

    He’s basically an ultra-socialist who wants to see us all living in huts in the wood, trading beads with each other. Push him on how big societies need big sewerage systems and electricity and so on and he goes all quiet.

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Well I for one won’t f****** f****** c*** this shit wten depinges no wonder Qaintarse f***** shitholes woke gay c***** keep me up at night when thise f***** always screaming bubuause have their own perverted f**** times with STDs the f****** wrinkly sleeps alone every night the f****** septuganerian whores buy them right here –

    ….

    Oh. Right. Carry on.

  227. JC

    Ellie

    I think what the dirtbag did was very indiscreet and inappropriate – especially when that person being discussed is deceased. If you want to associate yourself with that then go for it.

  228. bespoke

    I think what the dirtbag did was very indiscreet and inappropriate – especially when that person being discussed is deceased. If you want to associate yourself with that then go for it.

    Did what, JC?

  229. mh

    I put up the idea of voting people off the Cat for a week. A sin bin to maintain standards.

    Nobody was interested.

  230. None

    I probably would have switched off , Cassie. He’s usually a measured interviewer but it sounds like he couldn’t help himself this time and had to interrupt and insert himself.
    Our political and media classes have always been incestuous buitthey are so incestuous now they both forget what their role is.

  231. bespoke

    A blog is not a democracy

  232. Ellie

    JC, MV is entitled to a little soft femininity.

  233. JC

    Don’t flatter yourself, ellie.

  234. None

    No Knuckles I put those asterisks in or rather my phone does. It occasionally misses a few. Next.

  235. Max:

    We all knew this would be the follow-on from gay marriage and love is love.
    Trust … love … marriage .. family … hollow out the meaning and we all end up living in this kind of soup.

    I can’t even imagine what the ingredients are that go into this soup.

  236. Memoryvault

    MV is entitled to a little soft femininity.

    Thank you Elle. I’m all for soft femininity.
    Mind you, I’m partial to a bit of firm womanhood as well.

  237. egg_

    Some cunning linguists on the overnight OT?

  238. None

    Sinclair Davidson

    #3107909, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    ziiing

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