Open Forum: July 13, 2019

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  1. bespoke

    Anarky is what happens when the Bald Headed Flog h/t LL shows weakness.

  2. None

    Ellie

    #3107922, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Fuck off None!

    See knuckles, no asterisks.

  3. JC

    Elle

    There are better venues for people looking for friendships because they are lonely. Occasionally, it may be worthwhile to engage in a political or economics discussion. Look, even that bumbling idiot, Rones, is 95% Tourettes. However, 5% of the time the unremitting fool tries to engage in topical discussions even if unsuccessfully.

    Give it a try. You may be good at it.

  4. areff

    JC, don’t come down with none-ism. Ellie brings attention and perhaps a measure of friendship’s comfort to MV, whose candour about the wife he misses wasn’t prompted by exhibitionism but, rather, the CWG’s (Cat Wowser Guild) diktats about personal grooming and some very twisted theories about “Schick sickness” of shaving.

    There are other threads specifically devoted to economics and politics. The general one keeps those free of distractions while this one ranges from magpies to muffs.

    Terrific! Something for everyone and each to his own — especially None, who gets feel fleetingly alive once more in her boundless eruptions of outrage

  5. Cassie:

    I am fascinated by the idea of a space elevator….the scientist who first thought of this was a Wussian.

    Metoo!
    But I fear we are a couple of breakthrough advances in the material sciences short of our goal.

  6. None

    Terrific! Something for everyone and each to his own — especially None, who gets feel fleetingly alive once more in her boundless eruptions of outrage

    You seem to have the Elle disease of projecting much Areff. I leave the house every day. Maybe try that some time.

  7. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #3107943, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:46 pm

    Cassie:

    I am fascinated by the idea of a space elevator….the scientist who first thought of this was a Wussian.

    Metoo!
    But I fear we are a couple of breakthrough advances in the material sciences short of our goal.

    Could we just hang rope ladder between the Moon and Earth?
    We can go to the Moon can’t we?

  8. Sinclair Davidson

    JC – why you so grumpy?

  9. JC

    Areff

    Don’t get me wrong. People can discuss whatever they want within the limits of what the blog owner allows. Having said that, we’re all entitled to our opinion.

  10. areff

    I leave the house every day

    Unfortunately the authorities keep finding you and taking you home.

  11. Memoryvault

    Thank you Areff.

    If memory serves I came in quite late to an ongoing debate about shaving versus depilation versus natural thatch. I’m not sure what the connection was to politics or economics.

    Anyway, I simply pointed out that not all men considered the bare option desirable because they were latent ped doz, as claimed repeatedly by a certain excitable lady.

    I don’t know how my simple two bob’s worth defending shaving/depilation, one of many on the subject, is now considered the only post not about anything important, like the cricket or football, but there you go.

    The Cat can be weird like that sometimes, late at night.

  12. bespoke

    None
    #3107944, posted on July 15, 2019 at 3:51 pm
    Terrific! Something for everyone and each to his own — especially None, who gets feel fleetingly alive once more in her boundless eruptions of outrage

    You seem to have the Elle disease of projecting much Areff. I leave the house every day. Maybe try that some time.

    Not a hint of None being house bound from Areff, interesting.

  13. JC

    JC – why you so grumpy?

    Do I sound grumpy? I hope not.

    Look Sinc.. all is well, but I don’t want any association with Memoryfault.. neither directly nor indirectly and things go well when he abides by that rule. I want to avoid getting lice.

  14. MarkA:

    Could we just hang rope ladder between the Moon and Earth?
    We can go to the Moon can’t we?

    Only if it was made of good English Hemp fibre.
    Nice try, but.
    😖

  15. Memoryvault

    Only if it was made of good English Hemp fibre.

    Wouldn’t work, Winston.
    Some fool would try and smoke it.

  16. Ellie

    When you’re all retired and your wife of more than 40 years has passed away. You embrace freedom of speech. You encourage it. Yet, you judge and crap on a man while he is grieving. Shame. Shame on you.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    The general one keeps those free of distractions while this one ranges from magpies to muffs.

    Lots of the latter here atm, as it’s Eviction Week. Most of the local magpie pairs are in process of booting the kids and clearing the decks for the new season accessories. I’ve had lost waifs from several of the neighbouring territories come by looking hopeful. Then they look like they’ve discovered paradise after I give ’em something to eat. Whereupon Mr House Magpie finds them and firmly sends them on their way in a cloud of grey feathers. Hard time to be a magpie kiddie.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, former. Not latter. For the latter you should talk to DrB.

  19. egg_

    4 wheel elegant simplicity of a Ducati defeats it on-track

  20. None

    Unfortunately the authorities keep finding you and taking you home.

    What happens if I am “the authorities,” Areff?

  21. vr

    Huffpo on the millenial nuns.

    More and more young women are being called to the religious life, after 50 straight years of decline. What on earth is going on?

  22. JC

    Ellie

    The prick could be die right now and I wouldn’t give a shit. I care about his supposed grief even less.
    You don’t seem to understand what the concept of freedom of speech actually means. In fact, it appears to me that you have a very leftwing view of what freedom of speech means.

    Dickhead can say what he wants and other people have the right to their opinion too.

    You always appear to be trying to shut people down when they say something you don’t like.More than once you’ve gone apeshit stupid from the comments by others. Stick the shame thing up your fat backside.

    I

  23. Memoryvault

    Thanks Elle, but it’s okay.
    They have to have somebody to complain about, otherwise they’d be bored out of their tree.

    (When they’re not discussing politics or economics, of course.)

  24. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Hell000…

  25. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Interesting how Scarlett Johansen is perceived. The right hate her and the insane, regressive woke left hate her too.

    How about she’s fairly normal and maybe wrong on abortion?

  26. None

    I have never met a woman who publically engages in sexual banter with a 70 year widower whose wife of 40 years only passed away 3 or 4 months ago on the pretext of comforting them in their grief. Nor have I ever met a widower who publicly discusses his dead wife’s sexual preferences with strangers in public 2 or 3 months after she has passed.
    My father and mother would never do anything so crass, and I’m very happy to continue with my parents’ tradition.

  27. Memoryvault

    “I have never met . . .”

    So you were right, Areff.
    None doesn’t get out much.

  28. None

    I see you’ve noticed those leftist tendencies too, JC.

  29. Spider

    Speaking of Space.

    Yes I don’t doubt aboriginals may have looked up in the night sky and could have used stars etc to guide them but the expanding claims of
    Indigenous Astronomy are starting to sound ridiculous.

    Next they’ll be claiming they built the first rocket and got to the moon before the Americans (presumably powered by rainbow serpents)

    Surely someone has to call them on this?

  30. Nick

    My father and mother would never do anything so crass, and I’m very happy to continue with my parents’ tradition.

    Yet you have the mouth and disposition of a foul mouthed yokel. Hypocrite.

  31. notafan

    lOL

    I am just imagining being at a social function and someone starts regaling us with such a story

    I can’t imagine a single member of my extended family, old or young, or circle of acquaintances not making a hasty retreat

    What used to be ‘dirty old man’ is apparently now ‘edgy’ or something

  32. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    On vidya games:

    They were never intended for kids, really. Old games are too hard for kids; just think on the NES and SNES Mini. The NES Mini is too hard for most primary aged kids. Part of it was graphical limitations; realism couldn’t exist on anything truly before the 16/32 bit era. Mario was meant to be like MegaMan/Rockman originally – that is, his fireballs were meant to be a gun.

    Of course, adults programme them and the sixth (and last) ordinary dungeon in Zelda II has vexed me. I refuse to use strategy guides. I have unlocked the hard version of Ocarina of Time and can’t finish the spirit temple. I refuse to use strategy guides. It’s like cheating. If you use them and you find the solution….it can be very unfulfilling.

    As for what Scarlett Johansen said and the ruination of the 007 franchise, if you want a strong female character, try Samus Aran [from the science fiction vidya game, Metroid]. Full of sex appeal too to piss off the wokeists (ask gunner for more on cosplayers). The problem is vidya games usually have piss poor storylines. The only really good movies so far have been Tomb Raider and the animated Castlevania stuff.

    PS

    If you’re interested in programming and AI, I recommend you check out the reverse engineering of the source code for Diablo as well as the Mar/IO simulations.

  33. P

    This week as the world celebrates the first landing of humans on the moon 50yrs ago, I think back to that time when I had a toddler and a young baby and listening to the radio all day thought it funny that among the top half a dozen tunes, and played daily was:

  34. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Goodness gracious great orbs of moderation:

    On vidya games:

    They were never intended for kids, really. Old games are too hard for kids; just think on the NES and SNES Mini. The NES Mini is too hard for most primary aged kids. Part of it was graphical limitations; realism couldn’t exist on anything truly before the 16/32 bit era. Mario was meant to be like MegaMan/Rockman originally – that is, his fire flower orb projectiles were meant to be a gun.

    Of course, adults programme them and the sixth (and last) ordinary dungeon in Zelda II has vexed me. I refuse to use strategy guides. I have unlocked the hard version of Ocarina of Time and can’t finish the spirit temple. I refuse to use strategy guides. It’s like cheating. If you use them and you find the solution….it can be very unfulfilling.

    As for what Scarlett Johansen said and the ruination of the 007 franchise, if you want a strong female character, try Samus Aran [from the science fiction vidya game, Metroid]. Full of sex appeal too to piss off the wokeists (ask gunner for more on cosplayers). The problem is vidya games usually have piss poor storylines. The only really good movies so far have been Tomb Raider and the animated Castlevania stuff.

    PS

    If you’re interested in programming and AI, I recommend you check out the reverse engineering of the source code for Diablo as well as the Mar/IO simulations.

  35. Dr Fred Llenin

    Poor ole brown. If they had built that dam years ago there would have been no need for stupid ugly bird killers , your past stupidity comes back to bite you brownie .
    On this bullshit treaty ,is it legal for elected governments to make treaties on hehalf of citizens with other citizens of the same country ?

  36. Top Ender

    This one on the true cost per mile of electric versus petrol cars is doing the rounds:

    Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, “For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.” Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh batteries, is approximately 270 miles.

    It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip, your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kWh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.

    The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kWh.

    16 kWh x $1.16 per kWh = $18.56 to charge the battery .

    $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile .

    The gasoline-powered car costs about $20,000 while the Volt costs $46,000-plus. So the American Government wants loyal Americans not to do the maths, but simply pay three times as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

  37. The Barking Toad

    Anyway, I simply pointed out that not all men considered the bare option desirable because they were latent ped doz, as claimed repeatedly by a certain excitable lady.

    Reminds me of the Kevin Bloody Wilson song sung in faux Asian accent:

    I got this little pwubic hair stuck in back of twhroat

    Hahahaha

  38. Empire 5:5

    George Papadopoulos
    @GeorgePapa19
    Australia: leak the secret recordings from my meeting with Clinton errand boy, Alexander Downer. Our media and citizens will be grateful and it will usher in a new chapter in US-Australia relations. Be smart. It’s all coming out anyways
    7:38 PM · Jul 14, 2019

  39. thefrollickingmole

    The right hate her and the insane, regressive woke left hate her too.

    The regressive left hate everybody, but especially that body…

    Dat ass

  40. None

    Yet you have the mouth and disposition of a foul mouthed yokel. Hypocrite.

    If you didn’t have any double standards you’d have none. I’ve explained before why I use the f bomb here ( if you want to know yeah my father uses it too).
    I dare you to find anywhere where I engage with Elle-like smut talk with a widower who lacks any sense of decorum himself . If that makes me a yokel, write it with a capital Y, mate.

  41. Pedro the Ignorant

    Indigenous astronomy.

    Hohohohoho. Pull the other one.

  42. Top Ender

    Indigenous discoveries in astronomy

    The Earth is round: Indigenous astronomers were able to track the way that the night sky shifts as their relative latitude would change. This indicated the spherical, curved nature of the planet and its sky, understanding the connection between latitude on the ground and declination in the sky

    Supernova: Indigenous astronomical traditions have recorded and described supernova (exploding star) occurrences dating back over 2,000 years

    Moon haloes: Indigenous Australians realised the connection of moon halo appearances in the sky with incoming rainfall, and were then able to use them to predict inclement weather

    Planets: Known as the wandering stars, Indigenous astronomers were able to differentiate the planets from the stars not only due to their ‘wandering’ nature, but also by the way they twinkled differently from stars and by the way they followed the Sun’s path across the sky
    By Monash University astrophysicist Krystal De Napoli.

    Link

    And the evidence for all this is?

  43. Memoryvault

    I can’t imagine a single member of my extended family, old or young, or circle of acquaintances not making a hasty retreat

    Good advice Nota!
    Close the door on your way out.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kWh.

    Looks like a decimal point mistake, no one pays that for electricity. Even with service charges. Especially not in the US.

  45. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #3107978, posted on July 15, 2019 at 4:41 pm
    The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kWh.

    That cannot be right.
    In the US you pay about the tenth of that / Kwh

  46. Ellie

    This dichotomy came out at the Cat during the gay marriage survey, when alleged conservatives pronounced that only certain varieties of human interaction are “good”.

    No matter what you think about the state involving itself in marriage, the Cat wozer’s edicts were written in the ink of arrogance.

  47. bespoke

    if you want to know yeah my father uses it too

    So? your dad peed standing up.

  48. Memoryvault

    Hohohohoho. Pull the other one.

    You’ve got two, Pedro?
    Lucky bastard.

  49. Pedro the Ignorant

    Looking for a text book about indigenous spherical trigonometry and telescope lens grinding.

    Should be easily available seeing how they have an 40,000 year (give or take) handle on astronomy.

    We are being played for mugs.

  50. Top Ender

    Yes, I saw that Mark. It’s doing the rounds of emails at the moment – don’t know its provenance.

    Be an interesting calculation to do: see what it costs cents per kilometre electric versus petrol. Very difficult to get at though, if one has to take in the cost of the electricity grid delivering the energy, versus the cost of setting up service stations etc. As well as the capital cost of the cars.

  51. notafan

    Written in the natural law and the Truth.

    Same old boring sexual revolution never hurt anyone boilerplate

  52. Shy Ted

    Not a lot of people know that Indigenius people also invented that awful churchy music. Not sure if that was before or after the discovery of variable stars though. I do wish they’d have written all this stuff down in a book or something.

  53. Ellie

    If Mecury’s orbit is smut, our innocent exchanges were somewhere out beyond Pluto.

  54. Memoryvault

    Dunno about Pluto, Elle.
    But sometimes I used to see stars after orgasm.
    Especially after the third or fourth time.
    In straight succession.

  55. Sinclair Davidson

    My father and mother would never do anything so crass, and I’m very happy to continue with my parents’ tradition.

    That’s fine. Just don’t impose their preferences on everybody else.

  56. JC:

    Earlier this week, the Texas Senate gave final approval to a pair of bills that that would exempt precious metals stored in the Texas Bullion Depository from certain taxes. By repealing taxes on gold and silver, the state will treat them more like money instead of commodities.

    A reverse Greshams Law?
    Is that aiming a bit high?

  57. Top Ender

    From the link:

    Lake Tyers Aboriginal Trust in eastern Victoria is the perfect observatory — a hill with a view of the universe.

    Gunai man Wayne Thorpe lives and studies the stars here, where he is a traditional custodian of the land.

    Cloud cover would be at least 50% of the year.

    Good old Wayne studies how? Hopefully not a telescope. Or by using a computer.

    Wayne was once a bad boy:

    I grew up in the city and when I moved away from country I became lost, alcoholic, on drugs, eating wrong food, swearing, bad attitude and I realised there must be something better than this”

    Looks like he’s been on this game since 2011 or so….

    And an author too, with A Story of Bung Yarnda.

  58. Memoryvault

    But that was usually only on Sunday afternoons.
    Maybe it was a religious experience.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle

    If Mecury’s orbit is smut, our innocent exchanges were somewhere out beyond Pluto.

    Off the plane anyway.

    Astronomers discover ‘unusual’ asteroid with shortest known orbit (11 July)

    Quanzhi Ye, a postdoctoral student at Caltech, explained: “LF6 is very unusual both in orbit and in size — its unique orbit explains why such a large asteroid eluded several decades of careful searches.”

    The asteroid has an elliptical orbit so it travels way outside of the area in which the planets in our solar system orbit and actually gets closer to the sun than Mercury does.

    Ye discovered 2019 LF6 using a camera that rapidly scans the night sky and searchers for signals that indicate moving asteroids as well as exploding or flashing stars and he only had a short window to do it in because this type of asteroid is more visible 20 to 30 minutes before sunrise or after sunset.

    With such an eccentric orbit the asteroid has to be at least an honorary Cat.

  60. Nick

    Dunno about Pluto, Elle.
    But sometimes I used to see stars after orgasm.
    Especially after the third or fourth time.
    In straight succession.

    Come again ?

  61. Sinclair Davidson

    MV – stop bragging.

    You’re making the wowsers jealous.

  62. Memoryvault

    You’re making the wowsers jealous.

    There are wowsers on Australia’s leading centre-right libertarian blog?

    No, I don’t believe it.

  63. MV – stop bragging.

    Can we discuss my enlargement operation?

  64. Sinclair Davidson

    Can we discuss my enlargement operation?

    Only if you post pictures.

  65. Ellie

    You’re making the wowsers jealous.

    Indeed, he is, Doomlord

  66. Only if you post pictures.

    Ok. I just need to find where I put the trolley.

  67. Ellie

    I know, right! Wowsers on a libertarian blog!

  68. None

    That’s fine. Just don’t impose their preferences on everybody else.

    Ok so somebody imposing their smut talk on the rest of us is ok but people suggesting they take it somewhere where smut talk is the preferred topic of conversation is not ok? Your blog doomlord. If that’s the standard you set that’s the standard you’re going to get.

    So smut talk is perfectly acceptable – your wife’s preference for cunningulus, your erections, bring it on fellas – but as long as I and only I don’t say the word f*** . Got it. 😅

  69. Since the operation, the phrase “stuck at the desk” has a new meaning.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    I can’t see it at The Onion so it must be real:

    World’s first heavy metal knitting competition rocks Finland (14 July)

    On Thursday, Joensuu, Finland hosted the first ever heavy metal knitting competition.

    In heavy metal knitting, performers knit to the rhythm of heavy metal music in a “fashion somewhat similar to the air guitar,” but use knitting needles instead of an imaginary guitar.

    The competition’s website promised that “in heavy metal knitting, needlework and music become united like never before…. Knitting to the rhythm of heavy metal music can be compared to playing air guitar – which is a Finnish way to goof around as well,” explained the competition’s website.

    The Japanese GIGA BODY METAL group was announced as the winner of the competition on Thursday. Second place went to Crafts with Ellen from Denmark and 9″ Needles from the USA placed third.

    Performances were rated by a jury according to their attitude, performing skills, how they captured their audience and by “Heavyknittinghood.” The website did not explain what “Heavyknittinghood” is.

    Maybe that’s where the conservatives all went after they were booted from Ravelry.

  71. Muddy

    It’s a little acknowledged historical fact that the three Roman legions massacred in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 A.D. by hairy German backpackers, were done in due to the advice of a small group of indigenous Australian mercenaries who had travelled to Europe several years previously in search of outlets for their strategic wisdom and tactical acumen.

    Sadly, the detailed diaries of their experiences abroad were lost by incompetent baggage handlers on their return journey.

  72. World’s first heavy metal knitting competition rocks Finland

    They knit Lead (Pb)?

  73. Nick

    “Smut talk” hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. I’m laughing my arse off.

  74. Sinclair Davidson

    If that’s the standard you set that’s the standard you’re going to get.

    What happens in the Open Thread is the great conversation of humanity. This is not a church or a Sunday school picnic. This is precisely why the Open Forum exists. Also to keep discussion on the actual posted threads on topic.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can we discuss my enlargement operation?

    Inco – Only if it worked.
    Penis extensions don’t work, study finds (Grauniad, 10 May)
    I can see why Guardian readers might be interested in this question.

  76. None

    Nick, I gather you’re not married.

  77. cohenite

    I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kWh.

    Looks like a decimal point mistake, no one pays that for electricity. Even with service charges. Especially not in the US.

    Yeah; it should be 0.08 – 0.11 per kWh. But that’s with fossils. If only wind and solar were available it might be true. Assuming you could get any power.

  78. None

    Sinclair if that was the case then you wouldn’t have smitten anyone ever. Would you like me to leave?

  79. Nick

    Nick, I gather you’re not married.

    None is a good name as seriously, you have no idea.

  80. None

    Nick it has always fascinated me how those who insist people should keep their noses out of other people’s bedrooms persist in telling us about what goes on inside of theirs. I don’t want to know about what goes on inside your bedroom.

  81. Sinclair Davidson

    Would you like me to leave?

    You may come and go as you please.

    I would prefer that you dialled back on the indignation.

  82. Geriatric Mayfly

    Been keeping an eye on that bald eagles’ nest at Glacier Gardens, Juneau, Alaska. There’s a bully in the stick pit. Two fish brought in, of which he gets 98%. His threatening behaviour sees the other cower and move well away; maybe to get a few leftover scraps later. That the bully is much bigger goes without saying. I fear the victim will simply fade away; but that’s survival of the fittest in the raw.

  83. Howard Hill

    Indigenous discoveries in astronomy

    All this and they couldn’t boil water?

  84. Gab

    All hail the mighty Doomlord, etc.

  85. Gab

    None, I say this amiably, lately you sound hysterical. You need to occasionally do something else other than be on here 24/7.

  86. Memoryvault

    “You may come . . .”

    Oh noes.
    The Doomlord made a smutty suggestion!

  87. Gab

    He speaks! Hi Doomykins 💖💖💖

  88. Infidel Tiger

    FFS.

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

  89. cohenite

    Trump tweeting about the omars of the world incites the demorats: Trump’s tweet:

    Donald J. Trump
    ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly……

    The comments at Breitbart are fun:

    Have you noticed
    that if you rearrange the letters in “illegal immigrants,” and add just
    a few more letters, it spells: “Go home you free-loading,
    benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, non-English-speaking azzzholes and
    take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding,
    goat-shagging, raggedy-ass bastards with you.”

    How weird is that?

  90. Lysander

    I know I aint been around much but, speaking of losing it big time on the Cat, what happened to Dot?

  91. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Even if you had a university double major in chem. and phys (on paper); making water boil if you never had seen it before might be a challenge. What if you’ve got no clay or base metal ores?

    So much of what we do is tacit knowledge.

    If sparkies, mechanics and IT guys all quit, we’re kind of boned. Sometimes a machinist will know how to craft one part of a multi-million dollar mill.

    I’m not seeing how the lacking the advantages Jared Diamond lists is meant to be shameful.

    I do get it though. The MSM ought to knock it the fuck off with this “women and people of colour invented everything before toxic males like Tesla and Barnes Wallis”.

  92. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Good lord.

  93. Memoryvault

    All this and they couldn’t boil water?

    Of course they could have if they wanted to, Howard.
    They just didn’t like coffee, so there was no need.

  94. Memoryvault

    what happened to Dot?

    Transitioning, Lysander.
    She now prefers to be called “Frank”.

  95. Sinclair Davidson

    Dot is here – the system won’t let him use ” . ” anymore.

  96. candy

    Speaking of your intimate experiences seems a bit tacky.
    I don’t feel indignant, just a little bit appalled.

  97. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The spam thing won’t let me post as dot or post links in my name Lysander.

    I’m only Frank to troll Tom and JC.

    Helllloooo!

  98. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I’m shocked and chagrined, candy.

    That you are appalled.

  99. Muddy

    Perhaps Zyconclast has already posted this, I’m not sure (I’ve only scrolled up this page). I don’t agree with many here about the euthanasia issue, but the following is lingering in my mind:

    The 42-year-old man who has become the face of the right-to-die debate in France has died after he was taken off life support.

    Vincent Lambert, a quadriplegic man from France, was told in May that there was a possibility that he would be euthanized by starvation.

    His mother told the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva that her son cried upon hearing the news, according to the Agence France-Presse.

    “We are deeply upset this is why we have turned to the U.N. Committee of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities because the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities prohibits depriving a person of food and drink. This would be a discrimination.”

    Lambert, who is a former nurse, has been in a partially vegetative state ever since he was injured in a car accident in 2008.

    While he can breathe on his own without the help of machines, he does require medical help when it comes to fluids and overall nutrition.

    On Thursday, July 11, Lambert tragically passed away, nine days after doctors removed his feeding tubes, BBC reported.

    Last month, a French court ruled in favor of Lambert’s wife and granted her petition to have her husband’s life ended.

    The court ruled that Lambert would be allowed to die by keeping the needed fluids and nutrition from him.

    The ruling overturned an appeals court decision to keep Lambert alive 12 hours after medics had turned off his life support despite the will of his parents, Reuters reported.

    The battle over Lambert’s life has divided the family with his wife and six of his siblings wanting him to be taken off of life support while his parents and the two other siblings have been fighting to keep him alive.

    Lambert’s parents said that while he’s “in a state of minimal conscience,” Lambert is “not a vegetable.”

    “He sleeps at night, wakes up during the day, and looks at me when I talk,” his mother said.

    “He only needs to be fed through a special device and his doctor wants to deprive him of this so that he can die, while legal experts have shown that this is not necessary,” she added.

    On Monday, Lambert’s parents along with two of his siblings announced that they would not be bringing any more legal action, LifeSite News reported.

    “This time, it is finished,” they wrote.

    “Death is now inevitable. It was imposed on him as well as on us. While we do not accept it, we can only resign ourselves, in sorrow and with incomprehension, but also in Hope,” they added.

    The family went on to thank those who supported them through the journey and asked that people would continue to remember them in their prayers.

    “There is nothing more to do but to pray and accompany our dear Vincent, in dignity and silent prayer. By thought and prayer you are all close to us, with Vincent,” they said.

    While euthanasia is illegal in France, a 2016 law allows doctors to put their patients into continuous deep sedation until they die, according to Reuters.

    The Western Journal has reached out to the Council of Europe, Office of the Commissioner for Human Rights, for comment but has not yet received a response. We will update this article if and when we do.

  100. Spider

    I’m not necessarily opposed to pill testing per se. I’m just not convinced yet.

    How would pill testing have saved the life of the poor lad at a festival who had a litre of vodka and ingested 5 or 6 tablets.

    As any number of rock stars could attest (if they were still alive to tell us) ingesting massive amounts of alcohol and drugs can lead to tragic outcomes no matter how pure the drugs are.

  101. None

    Sinclair, please don’t read emotions into my words. You can’t hear me or see me. Believe me there is no indignation on my part. I’ve been coming and going here since Jason Soon days. I consider the open threads these days no different to Twitter. The usual banter, pile ons and whinging to overlords. It is nothing more than a distraction, usually while I’m waiting on something else online and occasionally they also serve as a source for something else I do. So it’s absolutely no skin off my nose if I am here or not. Just say the word and I’m out of here. No dramas. Easy.

  102. Lysander

    The spam thing won’t let me post as dot or post links in my name Lysander.

    I’m only Frank to troll Tom and JC.

    Helllloooo!

    LOL!!!

  103. Oh come on

    Who else here watched the Chernobyl miniseries? I really enjoyed it.

  104. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    How would pill testing have saved the life of the poor lad at a festival who had a litre of vodka and ingested 5 or 6 tablets.

    Maybe it’s the litre of vodka?

    Okay, let’s hit the online calculators which are not applicable to all.

    20 standard drinks in 2 hours for a 90 kg/200lb man would put you at 0.48% BAC.

    Enough to kill you – even in 14 hours that might put you at around 0.30%.

    I’ve seen people get over 0.50% and live (barely, FFS, it is not a competition) and I’ve seen people eat seven pills in one night and survive because of tolerance and perhaps they were ripped off.

  105. Searching through the Ollie Cromwell quotes …

  106. Memoryvault

    I’m shocked and chagrined, candy.

    It’s okay Dot. Candy just hasn’t learned how to use her scroll button yet.
    Sometimes it can take a while for blondes to master complex technology.

  107. A few honest men are better than numbers.
    Oliver Cromwell

  108. Bruce in WA

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

    What? What the hell for? Is there anything in this country someone doesn’t want to ban? The latest doing the rounds is mediaeval reenactments. “Too dangerous and aggressive” — and ONE person got killed doing it.

    On that basis, let’s ban all motorsport, hang-gliding, parachuting, rock fishing, waterskiing, bushwalking, cycling, motorcycling, SCUBA diving, spelunking, mountain climbing …

    Arguably, one of the safest recreational activities is … target shooting.

  109. Sinclair Davidson

    I am not a fan of pill testing. It is a work around and a cover up for the failure that is the war on drugs.

  110. Oh come on

    When I used to go to music festivals way back when, I’d sometimes run into guys who needed to take 6 or more pills to get off their face. A tolerance thing I guess. None of them looked like they were having fun at all.

  111. P

    90 years ago, in 1929, a giant of jazz, Eddie Lang recorded with Bessie Smith and Clarence Williams.

    Great music. Great guitar and great voice. Or one can just concentrate on the double entendres.

    You’ve Got To Give Me Some and I’m Wild About That Thing

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    What if you’ve got no clay or base metal ores?

    Stone jars are a thing Dot.

    Saving the secrets of the jars of Laos (8 July)

    The Laos Plain of Jars joined the UNESCO World Heritage Register in July, with the committee describing the area as “the most prominent evidence of the Iron Age civilisation that made and used them until it disappeared”.

    It’s the third World Heritage property in Laos, after Vat Phou and Luang Prabang.

    This is a global acknowledgement of the cultural and historic significance of this remarkable collection of sites, but we actually know very little about the people who created them, or even when they were placed.

    No other evidence of this society exists beyond these mortuary sites; adding to the intrigue are a group of remarkably similar jar sites some 1200 kilometres away in Northeast India.

    If bronze age Laotians could produce thousands of giant stone jars the aboriginals could’ve too. Kinda hard to carry them around but.

  113. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    None of them looked like they were having fun at all.

    I did see a bloke of that kind roll down a grassy hill at night (early AM) whilst drooling uncontrollably after a party was over.

    God only knows if he had any kind of consciousness at that point, or if so, how it could be defined.

  114. Sinclair Davidson

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

    The unpasteurised cheese story again?

  115. Nick

    I am not a fan of pill testing. It is a work around and a cover up for the failure that is the war on drugs.

    I raise my eyebrows at a generation who won’t touch a sausage roll, knowing not what it contains, yet will cheerfully buy a pill made in some bikie’s garage and then whine that the State should protect them.

  116. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

    Mein gott.

    What do they think of homebrewing and curing your own meat, sausages, etc?

    It is a wonder they let people sell chicken at all.

  117. Nick

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

    I had the real Mc Coy the other night, was amazing.

  118. Eyrie

    JC, “Musk’s rockets look like something from the 50s. They look stupid and their landing doesn’t appear to be stable. Taking freight up into space beyond that magic line can only be done efficiently with a elevator and that will take 50 to 100 years.”
    Forget the elevator. Just think about the EIS and OH&S on it. Not happening. The SpaceX folks have done a wonderful job. If I was 45 years younger I’d try to be one of them. Much of my stuff flies but not in space.
    Stick to trading equities, you clearly haven’t ever engineered anything.

  119. Empire 5:5

    Infidel Tiger
    #3108040, posted on July 15, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    FFS.

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again.

    Expect more fascist insanity as the ship goes down. They’re determined to punish the sheep for thinking for themselves. I look forward to punishing them ten-fold.

    IT – do you have sauce? Name of official etc ?

    #freedomofcheese

  120. Oh come on

    I think personal pill testing kits are a good thing for users to…er…use. If you’re honest as well as responsible. I suspect that a lot of people who, upon discovering their pill won’t do what it says on the tin, will on sell it to some random.

  121. Muddy

    Regarding memoryvault’s cunning limpets comment, I vaguely recollect that he made it in response to a comment of mine. While I was surprised at the candid content, I was neither offended nor outraged. I chose not to respond because I couldn’t think of anything wise or witty to send back.

    In front of me is a screen, and on that screen are words.
    That’s it.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    While he can breathe on his own without the help of machines, he does require medical help when it comes to fluids and overall nutrition.

    This guy was in a similar situation. He carried on his work as a Christian IT guy until his body finally gave out. He did web design and email with a breath-controlled interface.

  123. thefrollickingmole

    The latest doing the rounds is mediaeval reenactments. “Too dangerous and aggressive” — and ONE person got killed doing it.

    Really?
    FFS I was in this mob for a few years, great fun and you quickly work out just how much “cannon/axe fodder” you would have been in the bad old days.

    https://greycompany.com.au/

    Worst was a fight with a short bloke who swung his (all weapons were blunt) sword and managed to get both knackers with just the tip of the sword..

    Was time for a little lie down after that one.

  124. bespoke

    I consider the open threads these days no different to Twitter.

    mmm I wonder why that is?

  125. Muddy

    The French bloke who wrote The Bell Jar and the Butterfly apparently dictated the whole thing to a (very, very patient) secretary using a series of blinks.

    We do have a narrow definition of human functionality, don’t we?

  126. Memoryvault

    Expect more fascist insanity as the ship goes down.

    Not gunna happen, Empire.
    We have a Liberal government now.
    They’ll soon put a stop to all that nonsense.

  127. Howard Hill

    Even if you had a university double major in chem. and phys (on paper); making water boil if you never had seen it before might be a challenge. What if you’ve got no clay or base metal ores?

    You mean none of them ever saw the boiling of fluids when cooking their food?
    Even early Africans had discovered extracting iron from soil thousands of years ago and still celebrate the discovery and technique today.

    But anyway. The best explanation I’ve read as why they never boiled water goes back to Australia not having heard animals that could be domesticated such as oxen, buffalo or horses. Without these beasts, agriculture was not practical and constrained them to being nomadic for their entire existence. This also explains why they never made pottery being too energy intensive and awkward to carry around, interesting stuff.

    As a kid I lived with them for almost two years in Central WA and in school studied their history quite extensively. I never once read anything about them being astronomically aware, other than paintings on cave walls depicting men from outer space.

  128. Eyrie

    Peter, Bigelow is the guy who wants to build inflatable luxury hotels in LEO. Hotels is his business.
    Bezos says he’s bought into the Gerry O’Neill space colony idea with a Earth – Moon and orbital space economy. He wants to move heavy industry off Earth. As the line from the song goes ” the Earth is clean as a springtime dream, no factory smokes appear, for they’ve left the land to the gardener’s hand and they all are circling here” (Minus Ten and Counting – The Lightship. The line is quoted in the 1991 Niven/Pournelle/Flynn novel “Fallen Angels”. If you read it you will be amazed at how prophetic those guys were about the trajectory of political correctness.).
    I can buy into the O’Neill/Bezos vision too but I think a little more “ferociter” and a little less “gradatim” is called for Jeff (Gradatim Ferociter is the Blue Origin motto).

  129. Spider

    Is Chris Richardson waiting by the phone every day for the ABC to call?

  130. None

    Gab I don’t sound hysterical because you can’t hear me. I’m not here 24/7 ( alas there is no auto post function like there was with Twitter which was a lot of fun to use to rile the lefties). I may be here some strange hours because my work hours are strange. When I am travelling you don’t hear from me at all.

    If anything these open threads are fantastic examples of the same mob mentality and projecting that goes on on Twitter. There are a few here who are now into outer orbit as to who they think that I am, what I believe and what my personal circumstances are. We’re not talking people misunderstanding Lizzie’s perky tits talk. But real outer orbit. I will never ever ever correct them because I just find it some what amusing and want to see just how bizarrely wrong they will get.

    I never ever 100% believe anything that anyone writes anonymously on the internet. And I also don’t trust my own suspicions about who or what I think people are without pretty solid proof. I have good reasons for doing this and many of them are related to work I have done in the past or and doing now.

  131. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Google Hal Puthoff Engineering the Zero-Point Field and Polarizable Vacuum

    It is about metamaterials changing the constants that c can be written as.

  132. Notafan

    Are there parallels between Aborigines and other hunter gatherer societies that fo not have domesticated animals?

  133. Eyrie

    “The space rock is called 2019 LF6”

    Out of plane significantly. Have we found the Heechee asteroid?

  134. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Here you go.

    Hope it works.

    Hal Puthoff paper.

    Engineering the Zero-Point Field and Polarizable Vacuum
    For Interstellar Flight

    H. E. Puthoff
    S. R. Little

    It should open a blank tab and download the PDF file.

  135. Notafan

    Another question.

    If you are a land based tribal society, where borders are known and rather fiercely defended and your territory well known by landmarks, what practical use are the stars in the sky.

  136. Memoryvault

    Eyrie
    #3108085, posted on July 15, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    Thanks, Eyrie.
    I knew I had read about space hotels somewhere.
    So Bezos wants to move production off-planet and create a Garden of Eden on Earth.
    If it was anybody else you’d just laugh.
    But guys like Bezos and Musk seem to have a habit of making the impossbile an everyday occurrence.

  137. Muddy

    I’m about to re-watch District 9, a film about a dodgy alien space craft that breaks down just above Canberra and dumps a whole load of non-productive alien refugees on the lawns of Parliament House. The story is about how the locals tire of tolerating them, and high-level conflict between the two groups – locals and aliens – loom. Then onto the scene plods a dedicated public servant who clues in the aliens to the human weaknesses, and the locals are wiped out in a bloody orchy.
    Gaia breathes again as whitey culture is stricken from the record.

    Apparently it’s based on a true story.

  138. None

    Yeah but not as true as Plan 9 from Outer Space.

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    Out of plane significantly. Have we found the Heechee asteroid?

    Hehe, that’d be fun. Pohl was a fine author. Man Plus came up on the OT recently.

  140. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Referendum has been put on hold for years because pollies have been told it would be dismal failure..

    What has changed?

    Nothing.

  141. thefrollickingmole

    This was a real comment left, without irony.

    The subject was Trump telling the new choom gang (AOC & the rest) to fit in or fuck off.

    Jakartaboy 2h ago

    Is Trump going to tell Elizabeth Warren to go back where she came from in view of her Native American ancestry?

    The man is lower than a snake’s belly.

  142. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nice little story of innovation and business acumen in the local NBN Nine Ncl news just now.

    GOING GLOBAL: DOLLS FOSTERING DIVERSITY AND ACCEPTANCE

    A small, family-run business in Lake Macquarie is offering a new take on a classic childrens toy… and is now exporting to 26 countries.

    Ignore the PC spin in the title. The idea makes wonderful sense, yet is completely counterintuitive. Good on them!

  143. cohenite

    Nicholas reece is a total prick; on Credlin who along with Kelly seem unable to rip this shithead apart on the technicalities.

  144. egg_

    “Smut talk”

    Echoes of Grigs and yours truly’s humour.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    So, things seem to be going well in Paris.

    Not only excitable country shoppers. Bastille Day was busy too.
    Bastille Day erupts: Riot police drag protesters away as they heckle Macron during parade (14 July)
    I like how they burnt the portaloos. Let them excrete cake.

  146. Tel

    I am not a fan of pill testing. It is a work around and a cover up for the failure that is the war on drugs.

    If a private company wants to sell test kits … in what way is that the business of government?

    Other than the standard trademark regulations, does what it says on the box type consumer law.

  147. bespoke

    My gran in law used to make different race dolls nothing new in that world, BoN.

  148. Oh come on

    Well, this is awkward:

    Beto’s ancestors and those of his wife were slaveowners and enthusiastic Confederate supporters.

    Oh dear. Non African-American candidate Kamala Harris is going to destroy him over this.

    A few months ago, it was rumoured that Beto was an Obama surrogate and Harris was a Clinton surrogate. If true, the Obamas chose…unwisely.

  149. egg_

    Can we discuss my enlargement operation?

    I had a reduction.

  150. Geriatric Mayfly

    GOING GLOBAL: DOLLS FOSTERING DIVERSITY AND ACCEPTANCE

    Hooray!! Golliwogs are back.

  151. Memoryvault

    Thanks OCO.
    The last time Marilyn and I, and #1 Son were in Paris was in 1998.
    It was a beautiful place then.
    It’s sad what is happening now.

  152. Geriatric Mayfly

    GOING GLOBAL: DOLLS FOSTERING DIVERSITY AND ACCEPTANCE
    Hooray! Golli w-o-g-s are back again

    Second go, so as not to offend.

  153. Memoryvault

    I had a reduction.

    Can I have the leftovers?
    I need all the help I can get.

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Beto’s ancestors and those of his wife were slaveowners and enthusiastic Confederate supporters. Oh dear. Non African-American candidate Kamala Harris is going to destroy him over this.

    Is that the same Kamala Harris who is descended from slave owners?

  155. egg_

    Warning: Contains luscious French babes

  156. Top Ender

    Just got back from a walk around Melk, in Austria.

    The guide told us the place was first settled about 4000 years ago.

    “That’s nothing,” I gamely chipped in. “Out in the place your Austria was named after, Australia, our guys were doing astronomy.”

    That settled her down a bit.

    The Abbey here is as nothing compared to a few bark humpies.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meanwhile Ms Gillibrand is in the ‘who dat?’ zone.

    This weekend, the Washington Post Magazine published a puff piece on Kirsten Gillibrand. It’s called, “Overlooked: America is ignoring Kirsten Gillibrand, is it her fault — our ours?” The Post teases the story, by Anna Peele, with this:

    Kirsten Gillibrand is accomplished and experienced. For Americans in 2019, that’s no longer enough.

    Peele is inclined to blame sexism for Gillibrand’s inability to poll better than 0-1 percent. So is Gillibrand. She moans:

    There’s certainly been many studies that said, ‘This is a picture of an ambitious woman, do you like her? This is a picture of an ambitious man, do you like him?’ With a woman, it’s generally seen as a negative.

    Infi will be distraught.

    Kirsten Gillibrand is “overlooked,” and with good reason

  158. egg_

    Nanomachines can bore cancer cells to death

    UV light activates the molecular drilll causing it to spin at more than a million rpm, which allows it to bore through a cell membrane

  159. Roger

    Is that the same Kamala Harris who is descended from slave owners?

    If the descendants of slaves are determined to be eligible for reparations, it seems only fair that the descendants of slave owners pay them.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hooray! Golli w-o-g-s are back again

    GM – I was serious. The footage of the young kids getting dolls like themselves was a fine thing. For a kid with a disability it must be miserable isolation. Anything that can give them a bit of a morale boost is fine by me and a doll like them is a cheap and good idea.

    No disabled people in my family but I often have interactions with my deaf neighbour from up the road. She always asks me loudly about the bbuuurrds. I don’t know any auslan so it’s an interesting conversation.

  161. Notafan

    .

    I’ve been to Paris seven / eight times since 2005, might be more Africans/ and middle Easterners but it seems mostly the same.

    There’s always protests about something, some are violent, most are not.

    If I go next year I know the only change I will notice is the sad state of Notre Dame.

    Which clearly was not an act of terror.

    Paris riots 1968

  162. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sorry BoN. I misinterpreted your banner headline. Back into the gaol you go then gollies.

  163. Bubbles

    We had a street party yesterday. Unlike many awkward street parties, ours’ are invariably good fun.
    So why did yesterday’s end after 15 minutes?
    Because (capitals, emphasis, bloody hells), the organiser/host killed himself an hour before the party commenced.
    Jyses. Hidden depression indescribably bad joss.
    We told ourselves that we saw hints. But we didn’t. Depression plays a game that none of us are sufficiently sophisticated to understand.
    Keep pouring money into bullshit you Government arseholes and ignore community reality!!!

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    TE, earlier:

    Lake Tyers. I believe that was the last we heard from the great Black Steam Train.

    His final post was in relation to the in crowd there grabbing all the land titles for themselves and their nebulous fauxboriginal cousin brothers while actual blackfellas with a claim, like BST, were frozen out.

    One of the great bloggers of our time.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    GM – Sorry about the caps, the Ncl Nine station always uses all caps for their headlines.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    The Chernobyl series was great. Excellent acting, and historically and chemically accurate beyond belief.

    It was like someone who was actually there wrote, directed and starred in it. Magnificent.

    Also, welcome to Opposite Day.

  167. Roger

    I’ve been to Paris seven / eight times since 2005, might be more Africans/ and middle Easterners but it seems mostly the same.

    There’s always protests about something, some are violent, most are not.

    The chant of the “Black Vests” is “The French do not own France!”

    Evidently they take take Micron’s statement that “there is no such thing as French culture” at face value.

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Chernobyl series was great.

    Now on the tourism circuit!

    Site of Chernobyl nuclear disaster to become official tourist attraction, Ukrainian president says (11 July)

    The site of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant disaster is set to officially become a tourist attraction, Ukraine announced Wednesday.

    President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a decree to designate the area — the site of the 1986 disaster — a tourist site after the area saw an increase in visitors following the release of the popular HBO “Chernobyl” miniseries.

    I do wonder though, seeing that Ukraine’s Prez is an ex-comedian.

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    Some toppies just shouldn’t be toppies. This reflects very badly on recruiting by venue management.

    There was an animated discussion at my local tonight as to whether the new toppie is in fact a dude.

    Management need to pull their socks up. More Skylas and Emmas please, and less (probably) Darrens and Russells.

    As a friend of mine opined, ‘If I wanted to see shit tits I’d stay home.’

  170. Robert Mc

    You may come . . .”

    Oh noes.
    The Doomlord made a smutty suggestion!

    Meh. Bo Gan en Cuba already went there 2 days ago. And no-one noticed.

    She didn’t come so I came alone.

  171. Knuckle Dragger

    No doubt the taxpayer will now be slugged for installing ‘battlestations’ in nursing homes, and have roach reconstruction as an activity on wet afternoons.

    Those under the desk headphone hooks don’t come cheap.

  172. None

    His final post was in relation to the in crowd there grabbing all the land titles for themselves and their nebulous fauxboriginal cousin brothers while actual blackfellas with a claim, like BST, were frozen out.

    as has been pointed out many many times before. Land claims, native title are just for a few crocodile men to enrich themselves, nothing more nothing less. Eddie Mabo may have had a case but it should never have turned out to be a precedent.

  173. Notafan

    KD is a toppieist!

    Who knew

  174. None

    Bruce of Newcastle

    #3108126, posted on July 15, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    Bruce and basic Auslan is easy to learn and there are plenty of videos on 9now. So why not surprise your neighbour and learn to sign one or two easy sentences. Even if only hello how are you.

  175. None

    Seems Knuckles is definitely not a legs man.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    We prefer the term ‘toppie snobs’.

    It’s a growth industry.

  177. MatrixTransform

    but as long as I and only I don’t say the word f*** . Got it

    That’s bulldust Nong and you know it.
    yr just being obtuse.

    I actually like quite a lot of what you have to say.
    Sometimes its very witty and I like cutting black humour.

    The trouble is looping everybody into a polemic because it suits yr frame of mind isnt very measured or fair.

    frankly it just comes across as trying to start fights

    your ethic fails the moment you try to press for a moral standard

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    None – She’s already a good lipreader. I will settle for simple bonhomie.

  179. Notafan

    Embrace diversity KD.

    Before you know it there will be baby boomer toppies behind the bar (male and female)and you will like it whether you like it or not.

    There might even be one called Bill.

  180. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Eddie Mabo may have had a case but it should never have turned out to be a precedent.

    Do you mean the rules for the Mer should not have applied to all indigenous or that literally, we should have different to common law?

    If you have a case, it ought to be precedent, right now.

  181. Knuckle Dragger

    I have a rule.

    Anyone with legs as good as, or better than mine gets a tick.

    And my pins are A1. Cannot be denied.

  182. Notafan

    Roger I expect the black vests will get short thrift

    And perhaps a free plane ticket to somewhere else.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    Goodness me, no.

    There is a place for men with their shirts off, and that place is everywhere except behind a bar.

  184. None

    Thanks Matrix. No. No. Thanks (ditto). I have no idea what you are talking about x 3.

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Noel Pearson is right that there is no need to fear the voice (“Pearson voices equality, not fear”, 13/7). It will have no legislative powers, deliver no services, return no land, have no budget to distribute. It cannot override, impede or interfere with parliamentary processes. In fact, it is powerless.

    The voice cannot impose any obligations on governments nor create any rights for Aboriginal people. It can only advise.

    On the other hand, 250 delegates at Uluru called for a treaty that would return stolen lands and allow Aboriginal people to share in the distribution of power (designated seats) and the nation’s wealth (a percentage of the GDP). Unlike the voice, a treaty can be legislated tomorrow.

    Michael Mansell, chairman, Aboriginal Land Council of Tasmania, Launceston

  186. Bruce in WA

    Nanomachines can bore cancer cells to death

    I know a few people like that … and in all fairness, I’m probably one of them!

  187. MatrixTransform

    If sparkies, mechanics and IT guys all quit, we’re kind of boned

    if the power goes off … I will be a god ..

    PS. be nice to those in hi-vis

    PPS.

  188. Bruce in WA

    If I wanna see boobies, I’ll look in the mirror when I get out of the shower …

  189. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    New wardrobe, new looks.

    No shirt for me. Topless? Nah, that would look weird.

    Only a vest.

  190. Roger

    Roger I expect the black vests will get short thrift

    And perhaps a free plane ticket to somewhere else.

    I sort of admire their chutzpah, nota, but I expect that’s what’s in store for them.

    My real point was to highlight the absurdity of Micron’s denial of the existence of French culture

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3108040, posted on July 15, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    FFS.

    The Dept of Agriculture is trying to ban Roquefort again

    Was Roquefort the drummer for the Rolling Stones?

  192. Notafan

    Yes.

    Most culturally proud place I’ve ever been to.

  193. John Constantine

    Bolta reminds us that the chicoms have still held up a billion dollars worth of Australian coal for environmental testing.

    One belt one road is all about not replacing Australian resources, but about being able to boycott Australian exporters for long enough to crack them.

    Dunno what is worse, the chicoms eating all Australia’s breeding sheep, or suddenly stopping eating them at all.

    Comrades.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    Roquefort was the Musketeer who kept running around without pants on.

    Cost them a lot of contracts, but blood’s thicker than water.

  195. Mitch M.

    Nanomachines can bore cancer cells to death

    It is an interesting idea, arising from bacteriophages which also use a “drill” to penetrate cell walls. Cell wall openings are often much more fatal than poisoning. It doesn’t address the same problem that occurs with chemo: targeting the cancer cell.

    I prefer the modified measles approach. The measles virus can be remarkably effective at killing tumours but only some types.

  196. Notafan

    KD except the episode of it crowd when Roy is topless.

    Really doesn’t work in an office environment.
    Or possibly when selling hotdogs.

  197. Old Lefty

    The argument as I understand it, Frank, is that the land tenure systems in the Torres Strait, where Eddie Mabo lived, are different from those in mainland Australia. The islanders are Melanesian cultivators, who live in settled communities with defined and acknowledged rights over plots of family/clan land (and duties such as drainage etc.)which they farm. That is very different from the relationship of mainland Aborigines to the land.

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    Barry got all weird when I did that on the stand two years ago.

    He’s used to it now though. Just like cannabis and 40 hour gamer marathons, it’s about building tolerance.

  199. None

    Old Lefty

    #3108172, posted on July 15, 2019 at 8:05 pm

    +1
    The Mabo case barely rated a mention after the High Court’s decision in his favour and it took about a year or so for people like Keating to start archng up about it and turning it into the nightmare industry it is today.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The islanders are Melanesian cultivators, who live in settled communities with defined and acknowledged rights over plots of family/clan land (and duties such as drainage etc.)which they farm. That is very different from the relationship of mainland Aborigines to the land.

    That was my understanding, as well.

  201. cohenite

    Eddie Mabo may have had a case but it should never have turned out to be a precedent.

    Mabo had nothing. In the first instance Justice Moynihan found him to be a liar whose evidence was to be disregarded unless corroborated. The consequent HC appeal was a travesty with English common law bastardised to fit the narrative creating something between conquest, settlement and Terra Nullis. Mabo has cost Australia 10s of $billions and led directly to the growth of aboriginal activism personified now by possum man and the imminent dissolution of the constitution.

  202. None

    Dunno what is worse, the chicoms eating all Australia’s breeding sheep, or suddenly stopping eating them at all.

    Comrades.

    I’d be happy if they suddenly stop eating them at all.

  203. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The problem is, the common law infers that there is one system of law and the constitution supports this. So it was a flawed decision.

    Please bear with me. They’ve done much worse.

    Cole v Whitfield was so bad that Blackshield’s constitutional law had (has?) and an entire chapter named after it.

    How to explain Cole v Whitfield to the uninitiated?

    and goes forth to prove that black is white and gets killed at the next zebra crossing.

  204. Top Ender

    Yes Knuckles, Black Steam Train looks like it has pulled into a siding, and stayed there.

  205. Old Lefty

    It quite, Top Ender. For the Rhiannon/Stalinist faction of the Greens, for which the ABC and former Fairfax are propaganda organs, Brown is a bourgeois reactionary sell-out.

  206. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    imminent dissolution of the constitution.

    Think of it as another convolution of nonsense.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle

    Noel Pearson is right that there is no need to fear the voice

    He hasn’t met the Bene Gesserit yet.

  208. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The Mabo case barely rated a mention after the High Court’s decision in his favour and it took about a year or so for people like Keating to start archng up about it and turning it into the nightmare industry it is today.

    You mean like when he legislated the NTA to override the WA legislation? Someone was paying attention, even if most of us were not.

    “No one cares” about 99.9% of HCA cases.

  209. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The consequent HC appeal was a travesty with English common law bastardised to fit the narrative creating something between conquest, settlement and Terra Nullis.

    That is probably a truthful consideration of the past though. History doesn’t wrap itself up in neat little packages for our convenience.

    Some form of native title recognition was required. Can you imagine if you genuinely continuously occupied real estate for generations and lost it because you did not have a piece of paper? Even pre NT equity thinks this is wrong.

  210. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Also, not being to access the same degree of land ownership because you were here before the legal system is just plain stupid. Yes, the title requires to be shared; our legal system affords this right to anyone else wishing to own real property.

  211. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Pretty interesting.

    For Pink Floyd fans, history buffs and music geeks:

  212. Frank

    Ozzy man on the Norwegian horse girl. She is pretty impressive, but language.

  213. Helen

    Looks lioke Dallas stood for the Committee of Management in 2015 but was not elected.
    Web page has not been updated recently 2015 the latest I could find.

  214. John Constantine

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/world-cup-final-england-vs-new-zealand-controversy-after-drama-should-england-have-got-5-not-6-runs-for-overthrows/story-0ZSSDzIpGodaJXAizlcPdP.html

    According to International Cricket Council rules, not 6 but 5 runs should have been awarded as the act of overthrow took place even before Stokes completed the 2nd run.

    What does the ICC rule say

    19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

    “If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be any runs for penalties awarded to either side and the allowance for the boundary and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.”

    This is interesting. Lot of other sides would have had mobs of fans riots in the streets if they had have ended up like this.

    Cuzzie Bros.

  215. Candy

    Bubbles
    What a terrible shock to you all. What can you do but offer assistance to any family of the deceased.

  216. Shy Ted

    All I had to do was go to my employer’ website and download my PAYE summary for taxation purposes as I do every year but no, the gummint had to get involved. Directed towards the MyGov website within which there is a link to the ATO. So after it has insisted I hand over my email address, mobile number and sent several texts and emails to me containing codes to go to the next step, some of the codes it didn’t recognize, but finally we get there and then it tells me it doesn’t recognize my tax file number, nor my bank account. So they know how much I’ve earned but I don’t. But I can ring a 1300 number tomorrow. Useless cnuts.
    At the airport a couple of weeks ago they refused to let me through passport control as I hadn’t bought any foreign currency. Had to show them Aussie $ and credit card before I could go.
    When I’m out and about I rarely take my mobile but went to check out a new motorbike a few weeks before this, leaving the phone at home. Didn’t buy one but since then my computer has constantly shown ads for the shop I went to – didn’t hand over any details.
    WTF is going on?

  217. Spider

    Gee Chasing the Moon on SBS is great. You can feel the tension of everyone on earth watching. What an achievement.

  218. Steve trickler

    A fitting song for Big Tech today.



  219. Muddy

    Queer & Atrophied thread up and dribbling.

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    John C,

    Dunno about that article, or the pic showing Stokes diving towards the wicketkeeper and the stumps.

    The rule’s ok, that’s one of the MCC Laws of Crikkit even though it’s not usually enforced or claimed by the batsman. The article says Stokes punched the pill to midwicket where Guptill grabbed it and had a ping.

    If Stokes had done that and was diving back towards the keeper thinking better of taking the single, it would have been given four when it ricocheted to the rope.

    If he was diving towards the non-striker’s end, ie completing the single, then THAT would have been five. Except the keeper’s in the photo so it couldn’t have been that end.

    If he was going for the second run and was diving back toward the keeper’s end, AND had crossed with the other batsman by the time Guptill threw it, they were entitled to claim the two runs, as well as the boundary. Six. Watching the replay earlier today, I’m reasonably confident that’s what happened.

    Like I said this morning, it’s a shit rule anyway, and Stokes rightly put his hands up afterwards to indicate it wasn’t intentional on his part. Because if it was and someone appealed, he would have been given the lemon and sars for obstructing the field.

  221. Shy Ted

    Ah, MyGov website reviews – here

  222. cohenite

    Some form of native title recognition was required.

    Why; Aboriginals can purchase any of the many titles which exist.

    Can you imagine if you genuinely continuously occupied real estate for generations and lost it because you did not have a piece of paper?

    Are you talking about the current aboriginals, the Carpentarians, who displaced and eat the previous inhabitants, the Negritos and the Murrayians? The Carpentarians in turn were displaced by the English and other assorted sods under the umbrella of multifuckingculturalism. The Carpentarians have no equitable right to claim the exceptionalism of native title which continues to be expanded as Manado on behalf of the Bindunbur Native Title Claim Group v State of Western Australia does because to receive equity one must do equity and claiming restitution for displacement from a position achieved by displacement is not equitable. Nor do they have any moral right based on their own principles of conquest since they lost.

    Anyway you look at it mabo is fucked.

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘purposefully designed in a manner to infuriate users every step of the way’

    Shy Ted, that link’s gold.

    I also love the bit where it cheerily says ‘Ask your questions and the MyGov staff will help you!’

    A dozen questions from different punters. No answers.

    I have to attempt its navigation tomorrow. If I pretend to be a retarded muesli with no fingers and only two toes it might be easier.

  224. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m fatigued. 16 days running until yesterday.

    Going to bed to read about Franco. Didn’t mind removing Communist heads, that bloke.

  225. egg_

    Can we discuss my enlargement operation?

    A store gave me a free mini tape measure keyring with my purchase today.

    Me: Must be for small measurements.
    Counter guy (Asian): One metre, I think.
    Me: It’s cute, I’ll show it to my girlfriend; on second thoughts, maybe I shouldn’t.
    CG: Less than a metre?
    Me: Yeah, less than a metre.
    Store chick smiles at me on the way out.

  226. Natural Instinct

    Top Ender #3107985, posted on July 15, 2019 at 4:47 pm
    .
    The evidence… follow the links to CERN document library pre-print draft.
    Well maybe it is and maybe it isn’t.
    But we will keep on searching to prove our hypotheses.
    .

    7 SUMMARY
    This is the first paper in a series analysing Aboriginal astronomical traditions in the Great Victoria Desert. Here, we analysed several elements making up “The Orion Story”, the most detailed of Bates’ stories of the Ooldea night sky. A summary of our analysis concludes that:
    .
    The waxing and waning “fire magic” of Nyeeruna’s (Orion’s) right arm is suggestive of the observed variability in Betelgeuse. However the fact that Aldebaran is also described in these terms makes this interpretation difficult without further supporting evidence. The alternative hypothesis is that it relates to the observed effects of atmospheric scintillation at low elevations.
    .
    The “sparks” being issued from Nyeeruna in his lust for the seven Mingari sisters (Pleiades) is most likely based on observations of meteors from the Orionids, the radiant of which is close to the right arm (Betelgeuse) and “club” of Orion. The fact that the Orionids peak in mid- to late-October, when Orion is low on the Eastern horizon for most of the night prior to sunrise, also lends some weight to the “fire magic”- atmospheric scintillation hypothesis mentioned above.
    .
    The relationship between Babba the father Dingo and the “horn of the bull” requires further analysis. Although we offer two possible candidate stars, Elnath (β Tauri) and zeta (ζ) Tauri, the fact that Bates does not actually name either star in her story leaves this open to interpretation. One possible reason for this is that she may not have known the name of the star being pointed out to her by her informant/s, only knowing its relationship to the rest of the constellation of Taurus. Because of the location we offer a third alternative, that Babba may have been the bright supernova of 1054 CE. However, without substantiating evidence this hypothesis remains speculative, and we are searching the literature for other references to this event.
    .
    The orange star Arcturus better matches the colour description and position of Kara the Redback Spider, as given in Folios 26/78 and 26/81-82, than the blue-white star Rigel, mentioned in Bates’ original account of the story (Appendix). We suggest that this ambiguity in the story may have been due to Bates’ poor health and mental state at the time “The Orion Story” was transcribed.
    .
    Based on a detailed account of the Minari and Baba Inma recorded near Oodnadatta, we suggest that this male initiation rite was being timed to coincide with the few days of the year when, due to the Sun’s proximity to Orion (Nyeeruna), it is unseen throughout the night, but is always in the sky during the daytime. If this is the case, it demonstrates a good working knowledge of the annual and daily movements of the celestial sphere and positional awareness of stars and constellations in the daytime
    sky. We are currently looking for further supporting evidence of this.

  227. 132andBush

    Toppies?

    One at Leonora in 1996 had a glass eye.

  228. Muddy

    Bubbles
    #3108131, posted on July 15, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    There isn’t an answer to every question.
    That sounds absurd, doesn’t it?
    Best of luck in dealing with the aftermath.

  229. Infidel Tiger

    Impartial ABC and Leigh Sales interviewing demented and obviously drug affected loon E Jean Caroll about Trump “molesting” her.

    Even the American press have discarded that whacko bird.

  230. Steve trickler

    The busker? He is good.



  231. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Re the party that ended after 15 minutes. When I saw my archaeologist friend off on the ferry from staying a week at our place she was not met on arrival at the destination wharf by the friend she was going to stay with but met by an unknown neighbour. Her friend had topped himself that morning. People do this and it destroys those who love and care for them. Hidden depression.

    A fatal flaw in our human make-up. The signs are often subtle. Better awareness by all can help.

  232. Leigh Lowe

    132andBush

    #3108231, posted on July 15, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    Toppies?

    One at Leonora in 1996 had a glass eye

    If you’re looking at her eyes, she’s not doing her job.

  233. Muddy

    I bought a copy of this some time ago, but never got around to reading it. Might have to find the time.
    (This is not a direct comment to Bubbles, but rather mumbling self-talk).

    A radical new approach to depression.

    Worldwide, depression will be the single biggest cause of disability in the next 20 years. But treatment for it has not changed much in the last three decades. In the world of psychiatry, time has apparently stood still . . . until now.

    In this game-changing book, University of Cambridge Professor Edward Bullmore reveals the breakthrough new science on the link between depression and inflammation of the body and brain. He explains what we now know about how and why mental disorders can have their roots in the immune system, and outlines a future revolution in which treatments could be specifically targeted to break the vicious cycle of stress, inflammation and depression.

    The Inflamed Mind goes far beyond the clinic and the lab, exploring a whole new way of looking at how mind, brain and body all work together in a sometimes misguided effort to help us survive in a hostile world. It offers insights into the story of Western medicine, how we have got it wrong as well as right in the past, and how we could start getting to grips with depression and other mental disorders much more effectively in the future.

    `Psychiatry is on the brink of a revolution.’Sir Colin Blakemore, Professor of Neuroscience and Philosophy, University of London

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC and Leigh Sales interviewing demented and obviously drug affected loon E Jean Caroll

    Can’t get much more bottom of the barrel than that. Must be desperate. She’s got a book to flog – which is going awesomely badly. I suppose the ABC saved some money by getting her on.

  235. cohenite

    The new nanodrone the US have makes the sub debacle even more stupid. Pyne should be let lose with this drone on his fat tail.

  236. Geriatric Mayfly

    Because of the location we offer a third alternative, that Babba may have been the bright supernova of 1054 CE. However, without substantiating evidence this hypothesis remains speculative, and we are searching the literature for other references to this event.

    Pardon?

  237. Bruce in WA

    The most evocative of the many clips.

  238. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stone Age people in Europe cooked with food wrapped in leaves or animal skins using hot stone oven pits covered in earth, rather like the Polynesians; clay was also used to encase food. There is the possibility they did ‘boil’ food in animal skins, bladders, stomachs etc.

    Aust Abs may have done some of this but the evidence for cooking pits is scant.

    You don’t really need to boil water till you want to make tea. Come to think of it,cI could do with a cuppa right now. 🙂

  239. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    China’s 2nd Quarter growth is the slowest it has been in more than 27 years. The United States Tariffs are having a major effect on companies wanting to leave China for non-tariffed countries. Thousands of companies are leaving. This is why China wants to make a deal……..with the U.S., and wishes it had not broken the original deal in the first place. In the meantime, we are receiving Billions of Dollars in Tariffs from China, with possibly much more to come. These Tariffs are paid for by China devaluing & pumping, not by the U.S. taxpayer!

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