Open Forum: July 20, 2019

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  1. None

    Nota or Noto in Sicily, JC?

  2. JC

    Oh Noto. You know, I’ve had trouble with that freaking name all throughout. It just doesn’t stick in my head.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winston – Now you’re giving me a hard time. Grr.

    I admit there are no butterflies on Macquarie Island. But maybe we can issue to the lifer RoPers butterfly nets anyway. It would be fitting. Better than motorcycles to the Swiss border or fast cars from San Francisco.

  4. Shy Ted

    I was actually the projectionist at the Ennogera Theatre from 1960-1980 and can confirm that the only film we showed during that whole period was Good Morning Vietnam.

  5. cohenite

    I vote for Dirty Harry Robber Baron, ‘cos I’m a girl.

    I thought the sheilas liked Steve more in his prime than Clint; but then Clint does have a bigger gun.

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    I pick Clint….plus he’s a Republican.

  7. Frank

    We need to designate an island off the coast of Oz, S.O Island.
    Life on the island, no parole, no phones, no internet.

    Needs to have butterflies. Butterflies are important.

    Are you suggesting French Guyana by any chance?

  8. notafan

    Bullitt.

    Because dirty harry is on Netflix iirc

  9. Ellie

    Q&A panel tonight: UK political strategist Alastair Campbell, former WA Premier Geoff Gallop, Property Industry Foundation CEO Kate Mills, Menzies Research Centre executive director Nick Cater, and political scientist Anne Tiernan.

  10. duncanm

    Robber Baron
    #3113310, posted on July 22, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    8.30pm 7mate ……………..Dirty Harry
    8.30pm FOX Classics ……Bullitt.

    as much as I love DH – its Bullitt 100%.

    Much rarer to pop up on telly these days, and Steve McQueen is his own cool.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    former WA Premier Geoff Gallop,

    Resigned from politics in Western Australia, citing health reasons, took the payout, and went on to carve a new career in academia, having presumably recovered his health. Your true champagne Socialist.

  12. dover_beach

    Any of the traders here spot that AMD in 2016/17 was a steal? They are set to damage Intel in the next three years very badly with their Ryzen series CPUs IN desktop and server markets.

  13. P

    I am very disappointed in Cats that there is no discussion why butterflies are important for an island gaol. Sheesh.

    This is the second time tonight I’ve been reminded of novels by Gene Stratton Porter, first Laddie and now Moths of the Limberlost.

    My granddaughter and my son were to arrive back from a week’s holiday in Indiana U.S. today but bad storms have caused cancellation 0f their flight, to LA via Minneapolis. They had to buy new tickets. They should hopefully arrive safely home tomorrow.

    My granddaughter had spent five months last year on an exchange student programme with Indiana. She arrived home back then on Christmas Eve ’18. This holidays she wanted to catch up with her friends in the U.S. in Indiana.

    I told her when she came home last Christmas that I was sorry that she had not read Laddie as I had urged her to when she got Kindle. She was so close to the home of Gene Stratton Porter when she was there that she could have visited the home of the great author and perhaps appreciated the descriptions in her books of the area. I guess that none of her generation have read such works either here or in the U.S.

  14. feelthebern

    UK political strategist Alastair Campbell,

    Genius.
    Evil genius.
    Got Tony Blair elected.
    Bob Carr was also a devotee of Campbell’s but they had a falling out.

  15. Pedro the Ignorant

    I vote Bullitt because it is the greatest car chase ever filmed and I have seen Dirty Harry heaps of times.

    There are a few ways to extract the gold content from electronic bits and pieces, all of them are dangerous and extremely toxic and use chemicals and techniques that will kill you if not done with proper equipment and very great care. The return is usually not worth the trouble unless you have a mountain of electronics (the older the better). In addition, some chemical purchases will attract attention from large men in dark suits and sunnies.

    Don’t do it unless you have all the right gear and know exactly what you are doing.

    Leave it to the experts.

  16. mh

    This is pretty beta, dude. Omega male, even.

    Iamputrid responded however in a David Byrne – esque manner, as he is incapable of taking a compliment, even a backhanded one. (I assume he’s incapable of being loved, too).

    I’m guessing Iampeter lives in San Francisco judging from a couple of his recent posts.

    He’s probably got a horrible disease, too.

  17. duncanm

    No Fox – so its DH for me:

    When a naked man is chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he isn’t out collecting for the Red Cross.

  18. Robber Baron

    I’m watching Bullitt.

    McQueen is Frank Bullitt.

    Thanks for your input.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    Harry Callahan.

    Anti-establishment all round sensitive good bloke.

    If he was around today they’d be hoping the San Andreas Fault would open up, because that’s be the only place big enough to store all the bodies.

    On 7mate too btw.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Moths of the Limberlost

    P – Henri Charrière. And a movie with Steve McQueen! A staple in high school when I went through. Good stuff. Frank let me have some face back after Winston gave me a hard time.

  21. Mother Lode

    but does the demographically unified country include the 8.8% of RoP?

    Alas, those old French who believed in France have long gone.

    Their miserable heirs did not understand that effort and belief was what made France special. They thought being born there was enough. They thought it was about them.

    Like the kids whose parents have built up a business and let them live a life of privilege, and think the privilege is there due no matter what they do.

    Hello? Jamie Packer?

  22. BoN:

    I admit there are no butterflies on Macquarie Island. But maybe we can issue to the lifer RoPers butterfly nets anyway. It would be fitting. Better than motorcycles to the Swiss border or fast cars from San Francisco

    I just don’t get the ‘butterfly’ reference.

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    Butterflies.

    At primary school, in 1978 (the exact year Four Leaf didn’t swear at an Army man) I read a book called ‘Where do Butterflies Go when it Rains?’ I read it because I didn’t know where they went when it rained. And the book didn’t give me an answer.

    And I still don’t know. I assume they hide in trees or something, but there’s plenty of them here in Darwin and the torrential, Noah’s Ark Day After Tomorrow rain here would beat the little bastards to death.

    So now I’ll look stoopid if I ask any adult a question I first thought of 40 odd years ago.

    Ah well. Guess I’ll have to rely on happier memories – and there were plenty – of primary school.

    Oh, how we danced.

  24. Pedro:
    Yes, I came to that conclusion just after I coughed up a lung from adding bleach to hydrochloric acid.
    Or was it sulphuric?

  25. urb

    Winston –
    Hint Papillon bro

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winston – What is French for butterfly?

  27. Cactus

    Winston. Google ‘papillon and steve mcqueen’

  28. Bloody ‘ell, Bruce, that chain of thought went through five iterations before I came up with Devils Island…
    Never saw the movie…

  29. I think I’ll get a book out. Youse blokes are straining my brain.
    Perhaps our brains are too highly trained?

  30. Some History

    Kandi (from 2 & ½ men) singing Christmas carols (video length ~ 1.2 minutes).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmMFIVwh6vE

    [that’s not easy to do]

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sorry, Winston, it originally was aimed at FTB @ 5:13pm but he didn’t bite. Then we all got onto Bullitt.

    Papillon-the-book was a staple when I went through high school, and the movie had Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman. I liked the movie even if the critics didn’t.

  32. Cactus

    Steve McQueen in the Great Escape was my favorite McQueen. Youngish troublemaker.

  33. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    How safe is the bleach/HCl/auric acid method Bruce?

  34. Pedro the Ignorant

    Sand Pebbles is on after Bullitt on Fox Classics.

    Another one of Steve McQueen’s great movies.

    “Record” on the IQ4 activated.

  35. Digger

    Numbers: ‘There is no capitalist equivalent of China’s phenomenal growth’.

    Crap.

    The Chinese have NOT needed to develop ANY technologies to catapult them to where they are. They went straight from walking tracks to super highways, from shanties to mega buildings, from crayons to super computers, from flying kites to flying super jets, from sky rockets to intercontinental ballistic missiles, from building carts to building Mercedes curtesy of capitalist knowledge,

    development and money over generations.

    To suggest Chinas growth is something special is inane. They are the best at only three things… stealing conning, suckers and copying…

  36. Pedro the Ignorant

    How safe is the bleach/HCl/auric acid method. . .

    Frank. Don’t. Just don’t.

    Not easy to find a willing donor for new lungs.

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Numbers: ‘There is no capitalist equivalent of China’s phenomenal growth’.

    Crap.

    Harsh, but fair.

  38. Mitch M.

    Any of the traders here spot that AMD in 2016/17 was a steal? They are set to damage Intel in the next three years very badly with their Ryzen series CPUs IN desktop and server markets.

    Any trader who didn’t see that with Ryzen 1 series missed an opportunity, Ryzen 2 made a good difference, Ryzen 3 is a big jump forward while Intel series have made minor improvements from 7 t0 9 series and are still stuck on 14 nm with AMD now pushing out 7 nm, and Ryzen next year will be a bigger step than Ryzen 3 due to an entirely new architecture, with the follow up series expected in 2022 to be 5nm and by then Intel should have hit 10nm. The big difference is TSMC (Taiwan) has perfected EUV lithography and AMD works in partnership with TSMC while Intel chip manufacturing is entirely USA based and are now way behind. Intel are seriously bottlenecked in the lithography game, even Samsung is churning out 5nm memory chips. For the last several months AMD has been easily outselling Intel.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Just watched the Lawyer X Gobbo special.
    Gobbo was Mokbel’s lawyer.
    Mokbel was tracked down and arrested in Greece after some brilliant sleuthing work by the skillful operatives at Nixon-Overland Vikplod, according to this account in The Age.
    This very implausible tale from the article …

    It was only in April 2007 that Purana began to seriously look for Mokbel in an operation code-named Magnum. The taskforce’s breakthrough came when they persuaded a trusted insider to turn.

    The informer, officially known as 3030, came to Purana through a curious route. He was a professional musician who once played in a band with a serving policeman. He reached out to the cop – who brought him in.

    Mokbel’s clean phone was identified and tapped, along with those of his deputies. One of their drug cooks was persuaded to work for Purana, allowing detectives to set up a perfect sting operation.

    Eventually, Tony was tracked to the Athens suburb of Glyfada and arrested …

    Informant 3030 you say?
    Well, well, well.
    Gobbo was registered as informant number 3838.
    .
    3030 vs 3838?
    What are the odds that this is just a typo and the mysterious musician who shopped Fat Tony is Nicola the Fiddler?

  40. Leigh Lowe

    Testing ..
    Mokbel

  41. Leigh Lowe

    Testing …
    Gobbo

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Testing
    .
    Nixon
    Overland

  43. BrettW

    For those who enjoyed The Kingsmen movies Google The King’s Man to see background to the prequel movie coming out next year. Set in WW1.

  44. Robert Mc

    “To Kill A Mockingbird” was released in 1963.
    It would have been the Devil’s own job to find a cinema screening it in 1976, let alone 1978.

    We had it at school in the late 60s/early 70s.

    Nothing posh, underfunded overcrowded catholic day school.

    But projectors were fairly standard school equipment.

    It was considered Educational. And a help to the novel which was practically compulsory in Vic secondary schools by then,

    KD … have you managed to inhale yet? Very lucky. There is a lesson for you in this little effort. Do not rely on anything that MV tells you. Here endeth the lesson.

  45. cohenite

    For those who enjoyed The Kingsman movies Google The King’s Man to see background to the prequel movie coming out next year. Set in WW1.

    The first Kingsman was terrific, the second crap. Why the first was great.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Just watched the Lawyer X Gobbo special.
    Remember that Gobbo was Mokbel’s lawyer.
    Mokbel skipped bail but was tracked down and arrested in Greece after some (allegedly) brilliant sleuthing work by the skillful operatives at Nixon-Overland Vikplod, according to this account in The Age.
    This very implausible tale from the article …

    It was only in April 2007 that Purana began to seriously look for Mokbel in an operation code-named Magnum. The taskforce’s breakthrough came when they persuaded a trusted insider to turn.

    The informer, officially known as 3030, came to Purana through a curious route. He was a professional musician who once played in a band with a serving policeman. He reached out to the cop – who brought him in.

    Mokbel’s clean phone was identified and tapped, along with those of his deputies. One of their drug cooks was persuaded to work for Purana, allowing detectives to set up a perfect sting operation.

    Eventually, Tony was tracked to the Athens suburb of Glyfada and arrested …

    Informant 3030 you say?
    Well, well, well.
    Gobbo’s registered as informant number was 3838.
    .
    3030 vs 3838?
    What are the odds that this is just a typo and the mysterious musician who shopped Fat Tony is Nicola?

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    How safe is the bleach/HCl/auric acid method Bruce?

    Better than cyanide Dot. But the problem with it is you dissolve all the metals. Copper, silver, gold, lead, tin, iron, whatever. That means a problem when you want to recover the gold. You’ll get a precipitate of everything, and refining out the gold from copper and silver is non-trivial.

    I believe if you put the AuCl3-HCl solution through a column of activated carbon the gold will preferentially be deposited. But I’m not sure of that. Afterwards you burn off the carbon to recover the gold. Theoretically.

    The copper gold separation problem was one reason why the sulfation roasting process was developed at the time. Roasting would of course burn off the burnable bits in the circuit boards/chips. There’s a paper which I’ve accessed in the past but for which I can’t now find a link not paywalled. Here‘s the paywalled one. I worked at that plant for a short while. Gold was recovered by cyanidation of the copper leach residue, using the Merrill-Crowe process.

  48. Bruce in WA

    Meanwhile in New Zealand:

    Labour have hinted at the next bill to be placed in front of a select committee for discussion.

    It will include:

    -Establishing a firearms register
    -Make owning a gun a “privilege” that comes with obligations
    -Tighten the rules to obtain and keep a gun licence
    -Tighten the rules for gun dealers to get and keep a licence
    -Require licences to be renewed every five years
    -Not allow visitors to purchase guns in New Zealand
    -Introduce a new warning system for police so they can intervene if they have concerns about a licence holder’s behaviour
    -Introduce a licencing system for shooting clubs and ranges
    -Set up an expert group to advise the police on firearms
    -Introduce new advertising standards around guns
    -Require licences to buy magazines, parts and ammunition
    -Increase penalties and introduce new offences.

  49. jupes

    The first Kingsman was terrific, the second crap. Why the first was great.

    Another reason the movie was great: Bremont Kingsman Rose Gold

  50. cohenite

    Meanwhile in New Zealand:

    Labour have hinted at the next bill to be placed in front of a select committee for discussion.

    It will include:

    -Establishing a firearms register
    -Make owning a gun a “privilege” that comes with obligations
    -Tighten the rules to obtain and keep a gun licence
    -Tighten the rules for gun dealers to get and keep a licence
    -Require licences to be renewed every five years
    -Not allow visitors to purchase guns in New Zealand
    -Introduce a new warning system for police so they can intervene if they have concerns about a licence holder’s behaviour
    -Introduce a licencing system for shooting clubs and ranges
    -Set up an expert group to advise the police on firearms
    -Introduce new advertising standards around guns
    -Require licences to buy magazines, parts and ammunition
    -Increase penalties and introduce new offences.

    Just like Australia. And one armed citizen would have stopped the guy in his tracks. At the time I did hear a rumour that the RoP had some weapons but didn’t use them.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    AMD now pushing out 7 nm

    That is 24 silicon atoms at standard bcc packing. Not much room for improvement on that.
    Then there’s the required doping of p and n type atoms. Amazing they can do this without defects.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh.

    nm and silicon atoms.

    I thought all that was about video games.

  53. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3113486, posted on July 22, 2019 at 9:57 pm

    AMD now pushing out 7 nm

    That is 24 silicon atoms at standard bcc packing. Not much room for improvement on that.
    Then there’s the required doping of p and n type atoms. Amazing they can do this without defects.

    Plenty of defects. Some are outright duds and discarded, the not too bad ones are downgraded to slower speeds.

  54. mh

    DE Reports
    @DE_Reports
    “France used to colonize us, but now we colonize France!” – More video footage of Africans saying their true intentions so everybody can hear it, after Algeria won the Africa Cup of Nations (football). Can it get any more obvious?
    https://twitter.com/DE_Reports/status/1152914405761454080?s=20

  55. Zyconoclast

    Black-outs hit hundreds of thousands from New York to Michigan as grid buckles under strain of 100F heat – with 800,000 warned their electricity might not be restored until TUESDAY

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270847/10-000-New-Yorkers-lose-power-Sunday-city-swelters-100-degree-heat.html

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    In news that will surprise no-one, a dude at the brand spanking new Richmond heroin injecting rooms got into a barney with a chick, got turfed by the ‘staff’ and then smashed up the front windows before swinging a pole at punters in the street before being arrested and binned.

    But Portugal.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “France used to colonize us, but now we colonize France!”

    Looking at the Third World shithole Algeria has become since independence, I could argue that French colonization of Algeria was far more beneficial to the Algerians, then any reverse colonization of France.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    I counted ’em.
    He only fired five.
    Not lucky.

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From the Oz – don’t have a link, but there has been another boatload of centrelink refugees, who aren’t getting into Australia.

  60. C.L.

    IRAN PARADES BRIT CREW, screams the UK Daily Mail.
    LOL.

  61. Steve trickler

    It’s been a long time since hearing this song,



  62. Zyconoclast

    Canadian police apologize for using ‘CAT FILTER’ on live stream press conference about double murder of North Carolina woman and her Australian boyfriend

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7271927/Canadian-Police-forced-apologize-livestreaming-press-conference-Facebook-cat-filter.html

  63. EvilElvis

    Classic frogshit to and fro on Talking Footy regarding coaching candidates for the three current AFL vacancies. Not one of the idiots realises the gaping chasm of mature age coaches from Malthouse, Eade etc, to the current crop of AFL certified counsellor class of Simpson, Worsfold, Pyke etc. Where are the hard nut, old school types who are 48 to 60 years old?

    Fucking morons quickly discredit older coaches who’ve won shit while wholeheartedly spruiking second chances for coaching deadbeats who have achieved zero like Voss and Ratten. FMD.

    On to Dirty Harry to calm my nerves now…

  64. Zyconoclast

    Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms

    Trump may have been useful for other things but in terms of border defence and immigration he has been a complete failure. Tweets and hot air.

  65. Seco

    How bad is The Australian going? They’ve now got Kate Ellis’s squeeze David Penberthy writing for them.

    What is it corporate suicide at the moment?

  66. mh

    Trump may have been useful for other things but in terms of border defence and immigration he has been a complete failure. Tweets and hot air.

    Being a real estate developer you would think that wall building would have been one of his easier assignments as President.

  67. Old School Conservative

    a man who identifies as a woman sues beauticians for not waxing her penis.

    From Andrew Bolt.
    Why can’t he use the correct pronoun instead of going all marxist?
    At least he covered the story but he can’t criticise the bloke and also call him a her.

  68. mh

    Ramy Inocencio 英若明

    @RamyInocencio
    THREAD: These unsettling #HongKong videos going viral speak for themselves. If you knew *nothing* about the #HongKongProtests you’d still know this is not right. Local reports say pro-gov’t triads beat anti-gov’t protestors – and anyone in between – at Yuen Long rail station.
    https://twitter.com/RamyInocencio/status/1152999975766220800?s=20

  69. Old School Conservative

    A sports reporter with Nine Entertainment’s The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper has attacked Australian swimmer Mack Horton’s high-profile public protest against China’s Sun Yang at the world titles last night.

    (The Australian.)
    Reporter’s name? Andrew Wu.
    No conflict of interest there.

  70. Leigh Lowe

    EvilElvis

    #3113581, posted on July 22, 2019 at 11:09 pm

    Classic frogshit to and fro on Talking Footy …

    FMD.
    I haven’t watched it for ever and a day, but I watched a bit tonight.
    Caro Wilson lurves Mac Horton being a dick.
    Courageous, apparently.
    AFL players should have gone on strike in support of Adam Goodes.
    Mmmkay.
    So, how would they have known when to resume playing again.
    And the broadcasters and advertisers would have just loved that and kept cutting cheques … not.

  71. John Constantine

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/world/asia/chinas-voracious-appetite-for-timber-stokes-fury-in-russia-and-beyond.html

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas-timber-demand-is-destroying-forests-in-russia-and-zambia_2683609.html

    There is a real fear among Russian citizens that the Chinese could cut down all of Siberia’s forests, according to a September article by Carnegie Moscow Center, a regional affiliate of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace based in Washington. The fear has prompted thousands of locals in Siberia’s Irkutsk and Krasnoyarsk regions to sign petitions seeking a ban on Russian timber exports to China.

    Illegal loggers aren’t all Chinese, according to the Carnegie article, as Chinese companies often hire Russian locals to carry out illegal logging. Some illegal logging is carried out in remote locations that are hard to monitor by Russian authorities, and in other instances, loggers take advantage of the fact that forest rangers are short-staffed due to lack of funding and can’t sufficiently patrol forest areas.

    Corruption among border patrol officials has also made the illegal timber trade difficult to quash. According to the Carnegie article, illegally cut timber can easily be cleared through Russian border customs. Loggers often bribe officials for fabricated paperwork that allows them to fell old-growth pine trees in protected areas.

    Corrupt bankrupt third world kleptocrat regimes that fall for one belt/one road find loanshark roads built from loanshark ports up into timber country, logging then pays the interest bills.

    Coming to yarragrad when the time is right.

    Comrade Maaaaaaates.

  72. John Constantine

    Jamestown Foundation, a Washington-based institute, published its findings on Chinese behavior in Siberia in June. It stated that Russian officials have pocketed fabulous sums, due to sizeable Chinese direct investment into the timber sector, represented as legal logging. However, few locals in the region have benefited at all.

    Sayan Namsaraeva, a research associate with the University of Cambridge, said in an interview with Russian broadcaster Radio Svoboda in September that Siberia is turning into a “white Africa,” where China has been injecting investment in order to financially pressure countries into granting China access to natural resources—an implicit goal under Beijing’s “One Belt, One Road” initiative (OBOR, also known as Belt and Road).

    Russian officials pocket fabulous sums, while australias elites sell us out for a hot meal and a new phone.

    So pitiful and pathetic our politicals can’t even do corruption properly.

    I have always loved Big Brother.

  73. EvilElvis

    Caro Wilson lurves Mac Horton being a dick.

    Dick Darcy, Dick Watson and Dick Duck in full agreeance on Comrade Maaaaaaate!

    H/T John Constantine.

  74. John Constantine

    https://wildaid.org/smugglers-turn-to-endangered-pangolin-scales-as-chinas-ivory-ban-bites/

    Since China’s President Xi announced a ban on domestic sales of ivory in 2017, ivory prices have dropped by more than two-thirds (from US$2,100/kg to less than $700/kg). Many other jurisdictions followed, including Vietnam, the UK, and the U.S. Seizures of ivory shipments into China fell by 80% as trade shifted to Vietnam and Laos. Poaching declined dramatically in Kenya and Tanzania.

    As the price of ivory falls, smugglers appear to be turning increasingly to beleaguered pangolins, whose scales can still be legally sold when smuggled into China. New data from Hong Kong SAR – a major trafficking hub – shows a dramatic increase in pangolin seizures and a simultaneous decline in ivory seizures. Hong Kong SAR Customs seized 17.6 tonnes of pangolin scales in 2018, up from 7.9 tonnes in 2017. Meanwhile, the amount of ivory confiscated fell from 7,600 kg in 2017 to 370 kg in 2018.

  75. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #3113588, posted on July 22, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    No new border is fake news.

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-completes-construction-50-miles-new-border-wall

    Pay no attention to Zyco when it involves Trump.
    His TDS is on par with that of numbers’

  76. Mark A

    Another useless bit of info I came across.

    “Shrinkflation” is the term coined to refer to companies shrinking the size of a product, such as the amount of detergent in the bottle, while keeping the cost the same.

  77. Mark A

    Another one that I’m quite aware of but many pees are not;

    In the 19th century, long before the advent of highly refined petrol-based and synthetic lubricants, there was a pressing need for high quality machine lubricants. The most prized natural lubricant available was the waxy substance from the spermaceti organ of sperm whales. The substance found inside—technically a type of wax and not an actual oil—was an astoundingly good lubricant since it was thin, didn’t congeal or dry out, didn’t corrode metals, could withstand high temperatures, and even had a low freezing point.

    As a result of all these desirable properties, spermaceti (also referred to as sperm machine oil) has been used over the last two hundred years in a very diverse range of applications including lubricating sewing machines, inside locomotive engines and, later, automotive transmissions. Although it has long since fallen out of favor as a general use lubricant, it still remains a critical component in several rather high-tech fields, including aerospace engineering. NASA has yet to find a lubricant that works as well in the deep chill of space as spermaceti and it has been used to lubricate a wide variety of NASA’s projects like the Hubble Space Telescope and the Curiosity

    So, save the wales but not all and not just yet.

  78. Mark A

    pees? for GS pees?

    People, or as I meant it to be “peeps”

  79. Mark A

    For Cassie if interested and not aware. Otherwise you know the drill, scroll.

  80. Mark A

    Mark A
    #3113602, posted on July 23, 2019 at 2:51 am

    Well I have screwed that link up right royally.

    It supposed to lead you to this.

  81. Top Ender

    Third Sri Lankan boat in border breach near Christmas Island

    An Australian offshore border ­patrol has intercepted a group of asylum-seekers trying to reach the mainland by boat as Labor yesterday vowed to resist moves to repeal contentious laws that have handed doctors greater control over refugee medical transfers.

    The Australian has been told that Department of Home Affairs officials have landed on Christmas Island and were last night preparing for the arrival of a group of Sri Lankan asylum-seekers, thought to number about 20.

    The latest boat is believed to have been intercepted at the weekend in the Indian Ocean by the Australian Border Force.

    Confirmation of the failed venture­ came as Papua New Guinean Prime Minister James Marape yesterday failed to secure a commitment from Scott Mor­rison for a firm timetable to get refugees and asylum-seekers off Manus Island.

    While the government last night refused to comment on the ABF operation, it is poised to seize on the attempted arrival to bolster its medivac ­repeal bill, which is slated for ­debate this week.

    Mr Morrison and Home ­Affairs Minister Peter Dutton ­argued before the May 18 election that the Labor-backed medivac laws could trigger the resumption of people-smuggling ventures.

    The boat is the third to have ­arrived since the election and brings the total number of asylum-seekers boarding boats to ­Australia in the past eight weeks to about 80.

    The Australian understands that the group was yesterday thought to be on an Australian Border Force vessel sitting off Christmas Island, 2600km northwest of Perth, with the asylum-seekers scheduled to be taken ashore overnight then flown ­directly to Colombo on a government charter jet before dawn.

    The government has said that the medivac laws will open the floodgates to the mainland and provide a propaganda tool for ­people-smugglers.

    Deputy Labor leader Richard Marles yesterday rejected the government’s claim that the medivac laws needed to be repealed to prevent­ the launch of new people-smuggling ventures.

    “We’re not going to support the repeal of the medivac legislation. At the end of the day, this is a ­pretty modest piece of legislation,” Mr Marles told the ABC. “It is about ensuring that doctors’ ­voices are heard when we’re determining where people on Manus and Nauru should be provided medical treatment.

    “Now, around 40 people have come to Australia as a result of this. That’s in a context where the government, itself, has brought hundreds of people from Nauru to Australia in order to receive medical treatment over the last few years.

    “So the idea that the medivac bill will somehow see the sky fall in when it comes to our border security, as the government is asserting, is completely ridiculous.”

    Senate leader Mathias Cormann yesterday said the government would persist with repealing what he claimed was “bad legislation” pushed through parliament in February by an alliance of the crossbench, Greens and Labor.

    “We are focused on the public interest, we are focused on the ­national interest and we are ­focused on making sure that we continue to protect the integrity of the nation’s borders,” Senator Cormann said.

    “Our position is very clear. We took it to the last election. The Australian people voted for the agenda we took to the last election and that is what we will be delivering on.”

    The government is hopeful of negotiating the support of Tasmanian upper-house independent Jacqui Lambie whose vote it will need in its bid to dismantle the controversial medical transfer laws.

    A spokeswoman for Senator Lambie last night told The Australian that the Senator had yet to reach a decision on whether she would support a repeal but has not ruled it out.

    Labor is now preparing for a battle to protect the laws that it claimed were necessary on humanitarian grounds by allowing transfers of people based on remote assessment by two doctors.

    The laws were designed to make it easier for refugees or asylum-seekers on Manus Island and Nauru to be transferred to Australia for medical treatment.

    The government plans to bring on debate to repeal the Home Affairs Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures) Act 2019 (the medical transfer provisions) this week and have it pass the lower house.

    It is also slated for debate in the Senate this week despite the bill having been referred to a Senate committee which is not due to report back until mid-October. Pauline Hanson has backed the repeal bill, as has South Australian senator and ex-Liberal Cory Bernardi. But with the two Centre Alliance senators opposed, the government will need Senator Lambie’s vote to succeed.

    A spokeswoman for Centre ­Alliance MP Rebekha Sharkie — whose party holds two crucial Senate votes — said that their position to oppose a repeal would not change.

    “We think it is a modest piece of legislation,” the spokeswoman said.

    The expected return of the latest arrivals follows that of 20 Sri Lankans who set sail during the federal election campaign and were intercepted off the north coast of Australia after aerial ­patrols detected their boat. That group was brought ashore at Christmas Island then swiftly flown back to Colombo on a government charter jet on May 29.

    During the sustained wave of asylum boat arrivals under Labor, Sri Lankan illegal migrants typically did not engage people-smugglers in Indonesia as the majority of asylum-seekers did.

    Between 2008 and 2013, when more than 50,000 people reached Australia by boat seeking asylum, it often took just three days for asylum boats to reach Christmas Island.

    However, many Sri Lankans who reached Christmas Island seeking asylum during that time had travelled by boat almost 3500km from their homeland.

    Link – comments open but presumably paywalled

  82. DrBeauGan

    Nothing to report except that Cuban men have no hair on their legs. It took me a month to notice this, as I don’t look at men much.

    I have a dinner date with Maria tonight, but she has stood me uo several times recently, so I am not counting on it.

    I’m really just waiting for Tom’s toons.

  83. Mark A

    The Lord and master is awake.
    Thanks for the help Sir.
    Much appreciated

  84. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3113606, posted on July 23, 2019 at 3:48 am

    Nothing to report except that Cuban men have no hair on their legs.

    Noticing that, is a sign of boredom setting in. Or dare we say somet else?
    Hope not!

  85. Tom

    Finally, it’s D-day today for the British Conservative Party. Steve Bright (London Sun). PS: if you thought the Australian media hated Tony Abbott, you should see the destabilisation of the incoming BoJo government by the establishment media, led by the BBC.

  86. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. Corporation sponsorship for the Mars mission isn’t all bad. I prefer it to government involved in some ways.

  87. DrBeauGan

    Noticing that, is a sign of boredom setting in. Or dare we say somet else?
    Hope not!

    Fear not. It just so happened that in my smoking breakfast spot in the park, the seats were all occupied by blokes. This is rare, fortunately.

    I was told in my youth that all men go through a homosexual phase. Mine hasn’t happened yet.

  88. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3113621, posted on July 23, 2019 at 4:30 am

    I was told in my youth that all men go through a homosexual phase. Mine hasn’t happened yet.

    I hope it’s a myth Dr. Just turned 60 this Feb and so far the concept of it is just as repugnant to me as it was when I became sexually aware.

  89. DrBeauGan

    I hope it’s a myth Dr. Just turned 60 this Feb and so far the concept of it is just as repugnant to me as it was when I became sexually aware.

    I suspect the guy who told me was a bit that way and was doing some wishful thinking.

    I also suspect your revulsion (and mine) is hard wired in males generally. Which may explain why the suicide rates among perverts is so high. The buggers find themselves disgusting.

  90. jupes

    Zanetti nails it.

    To paraphrase a Mark Steyn comment from a few years ago; In the 60 years from 1890 to 1950 we went from horse and cart, larders and theaters to cars, air travel, refrigerators, radio, television and movies. In the 60 years from 1950 to now things haven’t changed too much.

    Computers and the internet maybe but that has probably detracted from our sum of knowledge.

  91. DrBeauGan

    I’m having a good thunderstorm atm, lots of lightning and immediate thunder, but no rain.

    You can’t have everything.

    ..

  92. DrBeauGan

    To paraphrase a Mark Steyn comment from a few years ago; In the 60 years from 1890 to 1950 we went from horse and cart, larders and theaters to cars, air travel, refrigerators, radio, television and movies. In the 60 years from 1950 to now things haven’t changed too much.

    Computers and the internet maybe but that has probably detracted from our sum of knowledge.

    It was in the late forties that government got involved in science, Jupes. Since then, it’s gone to the dogs.

  93. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3113625, posted on July 23, 2019 at 4:55 am

    I’m having a good thunderstorm atm, lots of lightning and immediate thunder, but no rain.

    You can’t have everything.

    Hot and heatwave predicted here for the next few days with a cool change coming after.

    33+ they say, bring it on I say.
    So far, at least in my neck of the woods, we had nothing over 35.
    The locals look at me strangely when I’m wearing jumpers on a day when it’s only 25C.

  94. jupes

    Hey Beaugy, have you ever looked at the maths involved in the Moon mission?

    Or to put it another way, if you were born in the US do you reckon you would have been wearing a white short sleeved shirt and black tie on 20 July 1969?

  95. DrBeauGan

    Bureaucrats understand power, hierarchy, and the joy of regulating everything in sight. And that’s all.

    Everything they touch goes wrong for that reason. They cannot believe, for example, that a farmer might be better at farming than a bureaucrat. Or a scientist better at science. And they can’t leave anything alone.

  96. Mark A

    jupes
    #3113628, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:09 am

    Hey Beaugy, have you ever looked at the maths involved in the Moon mission?

    Hey jupes, have you ever looked at the Moon?
    Did you notice how big it is? What math do you need to hit it?
    /s

  97. classical_hero

    Why do programmers confuse Christmas with Halloween?

    Because DEC25 = OCT31.

  98. jupes

    Talk about closing the gate after the horse has bolted:

    Britain to create European maritime mission to counter Iran’s ‘piracy’

    This after the gay-arsed foriegn minister stated that they had ruled out military options. Too. Stupid. To. Survive.

  99. DrBeauGan

    Hey Beaugy, have you ever looked at the maths involved in the Moon mission?

    Or to put it another way, if you were born in the US do you reckon you would have been wearing a white short sleeved shirt and black tie on 20 July 1969?

    I was a kid when I saw the moonlanding, and absolutely ecstatic, Jupes. I raised myself on science fiction and for me the whole thing was was wonderful. I’m appalled that the foul lefties have virtually stopped it, and hope Trump can restart the glory days.

  100. jupes

    What math do you need to hit it?

    Mark seriously, have you watched any of the historical footage this week?

    The astronauts had balls of steel and NASA were just brilliant. They conceived, designed, built and conducted the Moon mission in nine years. Nothing anyone has done since comes anywhere close.

  101. jupes

    What math do you need to hit it?

    Mark seriously, have you watched any of the historical footage this week?

    The astronauts had b*lls of steel and NASA were just brilliant. They conceived, designed, built and conducted the Moon mission in nine years. Nothing anyone has done since comes anywhere close.

  102. Mark A

    jupes
    #3113636, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:21 am

    Sorry mate you must have missed the /s tag.
    Close to my bedtime and I’m being frivolous.

  103. jupes

    Sorry mate you must have missed the /s tag.

    [Facepalm] Might have something to do with the cheap plonk here in Frogland.

    I think I’ll go to bed too.

  104. bespoke

    Mark A
    #3113627, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:07 am
    The locals look at me strangely when I’m wearing jumpers on a day when it’s only 25C.

    Its not the jumper.

  105. Mark A

    None
    #3113638, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:29 am

    Jupes

    #3113624, posted on July 23, 2019 at 4:54 am

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1152250369424019456

    Take your point but did you have to post it just before I shut down the comp. so this last pic will haunt me and invade my dreams all night?

  106. bespoke

    jupes

    I don’t think all is lost. Just have to fight harder.

  107. Mark A

    jupes
    #3113639, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:33 am
    Might have something to do with the cheap plonk here in Frogland.

    I think I’ll go to bed too.

    It’s amazing, the price difference, isn’t it?
    Wonder what our gov. is doing with all that dosh they collect?
    /s again as we didn’t know

  108. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3113640, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:34 am

    Mark A
    #3113627, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:07 am
    The locals look at me strangely when I’m wearing jumpers on a day when it’s only 25C.

    Its not the jumper.

    You are lucky I’m in a good mood due to the above mentioned suitably priced booze.

    Otherwise you would receive a stern warning my lad for your impertinence.

  109. None

    Mark, just think of him as Dr BG.

  110. JC

    I was a kid when I saw the moonlanding, and absolutely ecstatic, Jupes. I raised myself on science fiction and for me the whole thing was was wonderful. I’m appalled that the foul lefties have virtually stopped it, and hope Trump can restart the glory days.
    jupes
    #3113636, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:21 am

    What math do you need to hit it?

    Mark seriously, have you watched any of the historical footage this week?

    The astronauts had b*lls of steel and NASA were just brilliant. They conceived, designed, built and conducted the Moon mission in nine years. Nothing anyone has done since comes anywhere close.

    Fellas, it was hugely expensive.

    In 1961, when President John F. Kennedy committed the nation to sending an astronaut to the moon “before this decade is out,” the federal budget enjoyed a surplus and economists were calling for government spending to stimulate the economy.

    Even so, the final price tag still boggles the mind. Between 1960 and 1973, NASA spent $28 billion developing the rockets, spacecraft and ground systems needed for what became the Apollo program. According to a recent analysis by the Planetary Society, that translates into an estimated $288.1 billion in inflation-adjusted dollars.

    Also

    In current-year dollars, the analysis shows, the Apollo command and service modules cost the equivalent of $39 billion to develop, the lunar module ran another $23.4 billion, and the giant Saturn family of rockets and the engines required to boost astronauts into Earth orbit and beyond cost nearly $100 billion to design, test and launch.

    At the peak of Apollo program spending in 1966, Dreier says, NASA accounted for roughly 4.4% of the federal budget — 6.6% of discretionary spending — more than the Manhattan Project that developed the first atomic bomb.

    In terms of relative GDP, that is, the spending required in 2019 to account for the same share of the economy as the Apollo project did in the 1960s, the Planetary Society calculates the equivalent of $702.3 billion would be required.

    You know, a that kind of price tag, you really do want to be wowed by the science. Space travel will occur, but it will have to be done for profit eventually. Space is a shithole when you think about it. It’s very unwelcoming 🙂

  111. bespoke

    Looking at getting myself an early Christmas present and came across this.

    CAT® S61 SMARTPHONE

    Geek heaven.
    But Ill end up getting a cheep tough phone.

  112. Herodotus

    Space is indeed unwelcoming.
    Why there’s such enthusiasm for Mars is a bit puzzling. We have deserts here.

  113. Mother Lode

    Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms

    Just saw this but didn’t read the article.

    Are they saying nothing has been done, or that what has been done so far is replacing delapidated sections which were first ever erected because they were the easier stretches to cross?

  114. 1735099

    Newstart will be increased.
    The questions now are “When, and by how much?”
    Unemployment is now more a problem for older Australians, rather than the stereotype of dole bludging youth.

  115. JC

    Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms

    It’s misleading. They are re-building/ renovating existing walls.

  116. DrBeauGan

    The money was spent on earth, JC. And in exchange we made a large number of scientific and technological advances.

    The urge to make a buck is a natural human urge. Stronger in some than in others.

    The urge to explore, to learn, to find out new things, to sail beyond the sunset, likewise. Herodotus doesn’t have the second and we who do can only pity him.

  117. Eyrie

    “To paraphrase a Mark Steyn comment from a few years ago; In the 60 years from 1890 to 1950 we went from horse and cart, larders and theaters to cars, air travel, refrigerators, radio, television and movies. In the 60 years from 1950 to now things haven’t changed too much.

    Computers and the internet maybe but that has probably detracted from our sum of knowledge.”

    There’s a difference between having something and having it refined so it is reliable and in widespread deployment at prices huge numbers of people can afford to pay.
    If you think having the sum of human knowledge at your fingertips instantly isn’t a huge advance there is something wrong.

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    LL, mid-Dirty Harry last night;

    Lawyer X. Of course it was Gobbo that shopped Mokbel. No doubt whatsoever.

    The wallopers even went to the lengths of giving Fat Tony an extended holiday in Glis before they pinched him, because if they did t straight off the bat poor old saggy-titted Nic would have been well in the frame.

    And speaking of frames, if she survives another few years she’ll be on a walker as well. Always had the potential to be a fat chick with her colossal thunder thighs and the gunt just one Lite’n’Easy feed away from looking like a slightly younger version of Kath Pettingill.

  119. bespoke

    Its not the real real racist that are in the extreme minority agitating its the ‘progressives’ mindset that creates resentment in the general public.

    Check out this garbage:

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Unemployment is now more a problem for older Australians’

    Good. As it should be.

  121. Eyrie

    “Space is indeed unwelcoming.
    Why there’s such enthusiasm for Mars is a bit puzzling. We have deserts here.”

    Earth’s atmosphere near the tropopause is pretty unwelcoming but we found a use for it and developed the technology to use it safely.
    We have weather satellites so we learned to handle the space environment so our machines can survive in it.
    Communications satellites too.
    We have spacecraft to warn of CME’s to protect of electricity grid.

    As for cost, well it’s only money. It was better spent of developing spaceflight than pouring it down the rathole of welfare payments.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    Charlie Bezzina, one of the greatest homicide detectives in the country on Sky re the Gobster.

    Dapper, more tanned than DJT and very, very meticulous, there was no-one (with the possible exception of Ron Iddles and two others) within cooee in that field.

    Both were targeted as being pests and contrary to the Nixon/Overland mission statement which was bugger the public and feather my own nest, they were, to use the corporate term ‘managed out’ of the Homicide Squad under the disguise of ‘broadening their experience’.

    Both are now earning squintillions as consultants, while Overland tried his hand at managing a local council which went bust, and Nixon tried auditing the NT Police Force budget but confused her calculator with her calorie counter and sent that agency even broker than they were to begin with.

  123. Eyrie

    Herodotus

    Elon Musk has told you why Mars. A backup for the human race. Well, a start on one. Better would be humans at least a few ten’s of light years away in case of a nearby Supernova.
    Besides it will be meaningful work, along with developing a cislunar economy like Bezos wants to do.
    Above all it will be inspirational and FUN.

  124. Top Ender

    The average distance between Earth and Moon is approximately 30 times Earth’s diameter.

    If you could fly to the Moon at a constant speed of 1000 kilometers per hour, which is the speed of a fast passenger jet, it would take sixteen days to get there. Apollo astronauts reached the Moon in less than four days even though they coasted “uphill” almost the entire distance. They got a fast start.

    And other fascinating facts.

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    Does anyone think “wormholes” exist?

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    It appears that the international swimming body, FINA, has issued a stern letter to Mack Horton for his failure to stand on the dais alongside Chinese cyborg Sun Yang and his steroid-shrivelled testicles.

    Well done that man.

    Apparently FINA have gone down the path travelled by that other colossus of sporting integrity, Rugby Australia by saying ‘of course we respect the right to free speech BUT’.

  127. Frank

    If you think having the sum of human knowledge at your fingertips instantly isn’t a huge advance there is something wrong.

    True, but you have to wonder if we have collectively become any smarter for it all. Seemingly educated people fall for the sorts of bullshit today that would have been laughable a few decades ago.

  128. The Barking Toad

    Love your work Knuckle

  129. DrBeauGan

    The critical word there is “seemingly”, Frank.

  130. Frank

    The critical word there is “seemingly”, Frank.

    I’ve met a lot of woke mathematicians lately.

  131. Eyrie

    The main reason for sending people into space: it is why we are here. It is our job. It is “just us” because we have absolutely no evidence that life exists anywhere else in the universe.
    We are Gaia’s reproductive system and our job is to spread life to the rest of the universe.

  132. Eyrie

    In all the Moon landing celebration there is one little fact that never gets mentioned.
    Neil Armstrong was the first man EVER and FOREVER to walk on another world. It wasn’t just the Moon.

  133. DrBeauGan

    I’ve met a lot of woke mathematicians lately.

    Don’t trust them to get their sums right.

  134. Mother Lode

    Zanetti nails it.

    Except he got the quote the wrong way around:

    “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

  135. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Steve trickler
    #3113578, posted on July 22, 2019 at 11:04 pm
    It’s been a long time since hearing this song

    Watched the 500 years of portraits, Steve, thanks for that (and this as well)

  136. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Much preferred the ‘then & now’ moon landing &, in the same theme, the accusation of racism/sexism etc etc etc on the space mission. Thanks, Tom.

  137. egg_

    In the 60 years from 1950 to now things haven’t changed too much.

    The information age*.
    Caught a YouTube lecture stating the bleeding obvious – Engineering of the day leads Science (steam engines/entropy &c.).

    *CAGW modelling, anyone?

  138. 132andBush

    Zanetti stuffed the quote.

  139. 132andBush

    None

    #3113638, posted on July 23, 2019 at 5:29 am

    Jupes

    #3113624, posted on July 23, 2019 at 4:54 am

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1152250369424019456

    There’s a freak like that who walks around Griffith.

  140. Tel

    As for cost, well it’s only money. It was better spent of developing spaceflight than pouring it down the rathole of welfare payments.

    You mean welfare payments for the likes of Musk are intrinsically better than welfare payments for uneducated bogans?

    What had Musk done to deserve it? Made some overpriced, unreliable cars for virtue signallers to buy while telling everyone else their cheap reliable cars are no good. Now that venture has failed to be profitable he is dangling some new gilded carrot to get more money out of the taxpayer.

  141. Mother Lode

    Zanetti stuffed the quote.

    Damn straight.

    I expect Armstrong originally said “One small step for a white heterosexual male, a naturally great leap for white heterosexual male-kind. Sieg Heil!”

    You can probably get it on the Blue Ray version of the moon-landing.

    Fascist warmongering capitalist military bastard!

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    The richest people on the planet got that way by scamming the gullible.

    Musk is firmly in that camp.

    Sadly, my own scams have failed to deliver. Yet.

  143. Mother Lode

    Snap, ML.

    Why journalists, editors and cartoonists don’t consult with the Cat before they publish I will never know.

    And Rowe! I expect when he opens his computer there is a strobe-like flashing as different pop-up ads leap out advertising ball-gags and electric serrated strap-ons.

  144. egg_

    have you ever looked at the maths involved in the Moon mission?

    Two-line element set

  145. Eyrie

    “You mean welfare payments for the likes of Musk are intrinsically better than welfare payments for uneducated bogans?”
    Actually, yes. Give money to uneducated bogans and it just disappears down a rathole without any benefit.
    As I’ve said before I don’t know why Musk has drunk the AGW Kool-aid and I wish he’d forget about the stupid electric cars as mass market items. Tesla Motors makes some kind of sense as a luxury brand for rich virtue signalers and wankers and could have been quite profitable without attracting the mass market competition it is about to face.
    In any case he’s played the stupid politicians quite well. Nobody held a gun to their heads to give tax credits for electric cars or factories. If it wasn’t there, they’d have mal invested or wasted the money elsewhere. At least some interesting and useful technology is being developed and the vast majority of Tesla funding is from private investors.
    At SpaceX he has done something unique and welfare it ain’t. He’s delivering to customers one of which happens to be the US Government and doing it at prices that are much cheaper than “old space” can ever do. It is a bargain and gets the human race some real spaceships.

  146. politichix

    Zanetti manipulated the quote on purpose…you know….to be funny!

  147. egg_

    Does anyone think “wormholes” exist?

    IIRC wormholes and multi dimensions have fallen out of favour for quantum probability/spontaneous creation of matter.
    Prof Paul Davies is a good authority.
    Evolution/intelligent design seems to be the currently raging debate. with probabilities higher than the no. of atoms in the galaxy.

  148. 1735099

    Does anyone think “wormholes” exist?

    Yep.
    That’s where Cassie lives.
    Every now and again she emerges to spit bile.
    Best ignored……

  149. egg_

    There’s a difference between having something and having it refined so it is reliable and in widespread deployment at prices huge numbers of people can afford to pay.

    Electronics in cars.
    Try going back to points and carburettors.

  150. Knuckle Dragger

    Captain Kirk thinks wormholes exist.

    And possibly Four Leaf Tayback, who apparently uses them to go back in time and participate in all manner of fictional events only to be disappointed and proven wrong by people who were part of the actual events back here in Reality Land.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3113658, posted on July 23, 2019 at 6:47 am

    LL, mid-Dirty Harry last night;

    Lawyer X. Of course it was Gobbo that shopped Mokbel. No doubt whatsoever.

    No surprise given what we now know.
    But Overland and co couldn’t help themselves.
    They had to concoct a story of brilliant sleuthing and fantastic informant networks to make themselves look top drawer.
    They even had a bit of an in-joke by telling their tame “crime reporters” at Fewfacts the registered number of their invented informant which was remarkably similar to Gobbo’s registered number.
    Why not simply invent a story of an un-named VikPlod officer familiar with Fat Tony on holiday in Athens who happened to see and hear Tony?
    Totally random and untraceable to prove or disprove.
    The answer goes to your other post KD.
    Nixon and Overland had rissoled so many “old white men” from the force (along with their informants) to the point where they had to use the likes of Gobbo.
    They had copped a bit for the loss of corporate knowledge and were desparate to show that the New Broom had established top-notch intel networks.

  152. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Ricky Gervais

    @rickygervais
    · Jul 21, 2019
    How did we get to the point where women are having to fight for the right to choose whether they wax some big old hairy cock & balls or not? It is not a human right to have your meat & 2 veg polished.

    Jamie Whyte
    @_JamieWhyte
    It’s the same issue as whether or not a baker should be allowed to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Should you be free to refuse customers you don’t want to serve for any reason at all, or do you need some government-approved justification?

    James Delingpole on Breitbart sums up the peak woke era and how ultimately in its absurdity it will come crashing down.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    Oh diddums….I don’t spit bile about the SS guard….I just write the truth about the nasty little Jooooo hating racist and fantasist who shits on this blog.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Along with their informants’

    You bet.

    Apparently and allegedly and according to a friend of mine, informers once recruited become a resource for the entire police force, depending on any skills and expertise they may have.

    In theory this sounds great. In practice it is shit, because in real life (apparently) informers are selfish xunts who ultimately have their own interests at heart, and usually being career crooks will only hand over usable mail to detectives who’ve been round the traps, and who’ve preferably given them a hiding or two over the journey.

    Allegedly the better informers would listen carefully to what an earnest young copper with a sociology degree would have to say, laugh and put out his smoke in Senior Constable New Broom’s eye socket.

  155. 1735099

    only to be disappointed and proven wrong by people who were part of the actual events back here in Reality Land.

    Provide one example of being “proved wrong”.
    Come on, you know you can…..

  156. DrBeauGan

    Been stood up by Maria again. I sent her a txt explaining that in my country, if we say we’ll do something, we do it. Cuba is different. And I don’t much like it.

    I guess this was inevitable when her attempts to monetise me on a large scale failed.

    I got two tragic responses, one a hard luck story and one involving tape worms which I didn’t understand. I am prepared to accept elements of the hard luck story, but my trust in her, never very great, is evaporating.

  157. 1735099

    who ultimately have their own interests at heart, and usually being career crooks

    Now I wonder who fits that description.

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Come on, you know you can….’

    Yes. Yes I can.

    Townsville pubs were quiet at closing time in the late 80s and early 90s.

    SLRs were commonly in the ‘locked and loaded’ condition.

    Deal with those first, Hawkeye, and then I’ll move on to the rest.

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Instagram bans ‘gamer girl’ Belle Delphine, the influencer who sold her bathwater for $42 a jar
    PerthNow
    July 22, 2019 1:02PM
    Topics
    Instagram
    World News
    Celebrity

    X-rated model and ‘gamer girl’ Belle Delphine has had her Instagram account shut down weeks after going viral for selling her bathwater for $42 AUD per jar.

    The British influencer had built a following of almost 4.5 million on the social media platform, but kept her more lewd, more profitable business behind a paywall using Patreon and Snapchat.

    But after a spate of recent publicity, Delphine has had her Instagram account shut down because of an orchestrated series of reports and a violation of the platform’s community guidelines.

    Hold everything, we’ve just hit peak stupidity….$42 a jar for bathwater, FFS..

  160. Leigh Lowe

    A couple of other things from last night’s Gobbo-fest, KD.
    Hodson fits the description of your typical informant.
    Couldabeen a big time crook but too lazy and greedy.
    I also strongly suspect what got him knocked was casually making shit up on demand to get blokes sent to jail for stuff they never did.
    Also, the “stolen file”. Who the fuck pinches a file and creates an elephant trail back to themselves instead of, say, quietly photocopying the incriminating bits and putting it back? Load of bullshit. As if the crooks wanted “beyond reasonable doubt” written depositions before knocking Hodson off.

    The other surprising revelation was the alleged number of blokes who allegedly rooted Gobbo … allegedly.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    To help you along, Mr Pants On Fire, and without wanting to take other people’s handles in vain, these are people I’ve thought of in three or four seconds who can prove you wrong about referring to SLRs as locked and loaded – which was doubtless an attempt by you to look cool and brave but backfired monumentally:

    Zulu
    Johno
    Bubbles
    Digger
    Jupes
    Mater
    Woolfe
    Rockdoctor (who also has you covered re Townsville)
    Me

    The entire Australian Regular Army

    And there will be others, who according to you are allllll wrong while you alone are correct.

    Come on, you know you can……

  162. Dr Faustus

    Queensland’s Deputy Premier, the unspeakably vile Jackie Trad, sprung for corruptly benefiting from her official position, is digging in:

    Trad refers herself to the corruption watchdog over house purchase

    News Corp last week reported Ms Trad had bought a $695,000 home along the route of Cross River Rail, a project for which she had ministerial responsibility.

    Ms Trad and her husband signed the contract in late March, however, the property was not declared on the Queensland Parliament’s register of members’ interests within a month, as required.

    Actually, the Opposition referred her to the CCC last week – her self-referral is designed to avoid scrutiny today in the Parliamentary estimates.

    The issue is not simply non-disclosure. Trad apparently settled on the property two days before the announcement of the Cross River Rail project – which significantly boosted the value of the house. She then doubled down by claiming it was her husband’s property, even though she is on the title.

    In other jurisdictions she would have already resigned for ‘family reasons’. In Queensland, she will aim to ride out the shock horror imbroglio as though nothing happened.

    Being Hard Left means not having to say sorry.

    [For non-Queenslanders: Mx Trad’s cancerous opposition to the Adani project is largely responsible for Bill Shorten receiving the pineapple. Although personally hideous, she is a National Treasure.]

  163. C.L.

    News Corp last week reported Ms Trad had bought a $695,000 home along the route of Cross River Rail, a project for which she had ministerial responsibility.

    .

    I would have thought a house bought alongside a railway track would diminish in value.

  164. John Constantine

    Interesting reveal about vikpol.

    They might be actually earnest when top level vikpol insist another million third world military age males must be mass imported into Australia, because their vikpol promotion and empire building is based on recruiting dobbers from the new imports and pying them for information on the cousins that are business competition.

    Top level vikpol are wealthier and more important with every million extra revolutionary freedom fighters airlifted into the poor bastard country.

    Obviously none of these pricks will go down for the Gobbo stuff and if they do they will be replaced by godless commo wymynsys vegynsys activists.

    We just wonder how pathetic they are now at paying Big Men from gang culture to run deradicalisation programs and pay huge dollars for information preventing intellectually disabled kids from saying they would drop atomic bombs on ANZAC Day.

    Worst paramilitary arm of the worst Tyranny ever.

    Keystone Cops want their clowns back.

    Comrades.

  165. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3113713, posted on July 23, 2019 at 9:11 am

    To help you along, Mr Pants On Fire …

    Reminds me of ‘nam in ’69.
    Or was it ’71?
    No matter.
    I came across a bunch of redneck GIs wearing MAGA caps and singing Garth Brookes songs who had set fire to a young blind Vietnamese boy’s trousers.
    One steely glare from me and the good ole boys were on their way, mumbling apologies.
    I spent the rest of my weekly projectionists pay packet on new trousers for the boy.
    And I never touched the boy inappropriately.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    Hodson was a solid low/mid range pill dealer who used his own product and skimmed bits and pieces off other people’s stuff going through his hands.

    Been around forever. Had his moments in the magoos, but was never going to play A Grade. And he didn’t like the idea of jail. Perfect for flipping.

    Hypothetically, if you’re a dealer who buys and sells to crooks and dodgy detectives, and if one of those detectives finds out you’re a gig after substantial amounts of cash has already changed hands, well your time’s running out.

  167. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    9m
    When we rip down and totally replace a badly broken and dilapidated Barrier on the Southern Border, something which cannot do the job, the Fake News Media gives us zero credit for building a new Wall. We have replaced many miles of old Barrier with powerful new Walls!

  168. C.L.

    The thing that fascinates me about “Lawyer X” is how much that scandal rhymes with – let’s call it – “Journalist Y.” Journalist Y was also an ambitious female and was also used to rig a prosecution.

  169. Roger

    I would have thought a house bought alongside a railway track would diminish in value.

    A majority of it will be underground.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘One steely glare’

    Don’t doubt that for a second.

    Those spastic herders have seen some shit, man.

    Some really, freaky, out there shit.

  171. Geriatric Mayfly

    Something about space which is hard to get one’s head around. To the naked eye a sky full of stars looks well occupied. A basic telescope will bring into focus specks of starry ‘dust’ crowding every niche in the canopy. And yet we are told that space is largely empty. The best analogy I have read to explain this, is to place three grains of sand in the biggest cathedral in Europe. Compared to space they would be jostling for room. What hope have we then of getting across such a vast emptiness?

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    Little-known fact:

    Every single non-English speaking noggie wheelchair-bound kid taken to see Gregory Peck films in 1921, 1959, 1976, 1978 and 2016 got new hand-me-down shoes.

  173. mh

    Swedes Advised to ‘Dress Poorly’ to Deter Violent Muggers

    An 18-year-old man was stabbed to death by a group of attackers who stole his cell phone and jewelry, prompting a national debate on the rise of violent crime that led to an ‘expert’ offering the bizarre advice on a Swedish news program.

    Sven-Erik Alhem, chairman of the Brottsofferjouren (Victim Support) charity, appeared on TV4 Nyhetsmorgon along with Gothenburg’s head of police to instruct the public on methods to deter attacks.

    “It is usually said that if you want to reduce the risk of being exposed to robbery, you should dress poor and look like you don’t own anything,” Alhem said. “It is strange that one should behave in this way. However, it is true that an effort to look poor may reduce the risk of a violent robbery.”
    https://europe.infowars.com/swedes-advised-to-dress-poorly-to-deter-violent-muggers/

    And if you hurt the attackers, the Swedes lock you up.
    Free A$AP Rocky now!

  174. John Constantine

    Top level vikpol are earnestly calling for the mass importing another million military age third world males into Australia, so they can recruit informers to do something about the Mexican crime syndicates and chicom triads and hezbollah drug rings establishing in yarragrad.

    While pouring the full weight of vikpol into pursuit of any that call goodes a bald headed flog.

  175. C.L.

    A majority of it will be underground.

    OK but I still don’t see how its value goes through the roof.
    Much as I dislike Trad, I don’t see this as a some grand plan to make a killing. Plus, Cross River Rail has been on the verge of official approval for years. It’s the biggest infrastructure project in Queensland history; it’s not a new park conceived of a month ago and next door to the Trads’ joint.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    I would have thought a house bought alongside a railway track would diminish in value.

    Two blocks back and walking distance to a station can be sought after.

  177. 1735099

    Townsville pubs were quiet at closing time in the late 80s and early 90s.

    Townsville pubs of their era were very little different from pubs anywhere else in NQ at the time.
    If you claim that’s incorrect, provide stats to back it up.
    If you can’t, you’re expressing an opinion.
    My opinion is worth as much as yours on this subject, especially given that I actually lived in Townsville at the time.
    Did you?

    SLRs were commonly in the ‘locked and loaded’ condition.

    I can use any form of description of the state of a rifle that I please.
    Again, my opinion is worth as much as yours on this.
    I did carry one for a while on the two-way range.
    Did you?

    As for trying to impress.
    You provide a continual stream of faux macho verbal diarrhoea that is intensly boring, and fails to impress anyone.
    That’s when you’re not repeating yourself.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Much as I dislike Trad, I don’t see this as a some grand plan to make a killing.

    If there is nothing to see, why not just put it on the register?
    Fuck her.
    She has her skilled operatives going over everything Adani submits trying to find the slightest inconsistency between the figures on page 76 and Annexure E of the road drainage plan or whatever.
    Let’s play the technical administrative minutiae game shall we?

  179. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3113726, posted on July 23, 2019 at 9:36 am

    Little-known fact:

    Cliffie Claven!

  180. “You provide a continual stream of faux macho verbal diarrhoea that is intensly boring, and fails to impress anyone.”

    For once the SS guard is writing honestly about himself.

  181. Leigh Lowe

    How many gooks did you bag, SS Private Spudentropp?

  182. Roger

    Much as I dislike Trad, I don’t see this as a some grand plan to make a killing.

    If it was all above board why the lies and obfuscation?

    At the very least, she’s treating the public with contempt.

  183. C.L.

    Confirmed: it would be a soft-on-crime option.

    ‘Not a soft-on-crime option’: NSW debates plan for Indigenous sentencing court.

    The New South Wales parliament will on Thursday debate whether it should create a “Walama court” for sentencing Indigenous people.

    The approach is supported by the state’s police and lawyers, who say it would help stop “spiralling rates of Indigenous incarceration”, but the Berejiklian government opposes it.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We watched that Lawyer X show last night. What a can of worms, including Vic Pol. A world of mendacity.

  185. 1735099

    How many gooks

    That term was used by the Yanks.
    You’ve been playing “Tour of Duty” again.
    You’ll go blind…..

  186. John Constantine

    The whole point of diversion programs is to establish an empire for cronies running soft options to court and real penalties.

    no diversion programs allow key performance indicators for bonuses to be met.

    And politicals can make speeches pointing out reductions in diversity arrest rates.

    I have always loved Big Brother.

  187. mh

    I know Numbers will most likely wack off over this pro Communist violence, but it needs posting

    Ramy Inocencio 英若明
    @RamyInocencio
    ·
    Jul 22
    I was told by our CBS colleague in #HongKong that a local female journalist filmed this video of a man getting attacked. She was then attacked herself. You can see she falls to the ground and screams. When they learn she’s a journalist they stop hitting her. #HongKongProtests
    https://twitter.com/RamyInocencio/status/1153000152895905793?s=20

  188. Gilas

    egg_
    #3113689, posted on July 23, 2019 at 8:15 am

    have you ever looked at the maths involved in the Moon mission?

    Two-line element set

    That’s why I love the Cat!
    Thank you.

  189. John Constantine

    Skynet slipped in a correction to make me claim that NO diversion programs produce bonus key performance indicator payments for political cronies.

    Opposite of course in reality.

  190. dover_beach

    REORDERING THE PUBLIC SQUARE:

    The idea that this country’s laws—that have incorporated so many religious principles and are explicitly founded on God’s laws—require neutrality between religion and irreligion is laughable. What is not laughable is that a leftist hermeneutic—which results in judgments favoring leftist policy goals—is masquerading as neutral legal judgments. Neutrality has been exposed for what it really is: a post hoc interpretation of the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses—with no significant roots in the founding or Civil War eras—that is useful for producing pro-left judgments. It is brute force masquerading as law.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dr. BG, there comes a time in any male-female encounter when a girl will ask herself the question: what’s in it for me? It could be money, love, sex, companionship, a father for her child, or a passport. I’d say that Maria is reaching that stage. That’s just my view of course. 🙂

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    Bloody hell Four Leaf. I know you’re painted into a corner here, but this is just silly, even for you. Okay then:

    Yes I lived in Townsville at that time. Yes I frequented the pubs. On top of that I was one of those grunts you detest, and I volunteered for it. I had considerable experience in the bloodhouses that were closing times, and have maintained a professional interest in behaviour at licensed premises for nigh on 30 years after that.

    Yes, it’s an opinion, but it’s an expert opinion borne of decades of experiences, instead of casual sporadic observations by a mediocre teacher.

    Additionally, the ADF did not ‘keep us on a short leash’ as you claimed at the same time. I know because I was one of them. The ADF didn’t give a rat’s arse what we did as long as we weren’t caught.

    SLRs. I suppose you can refer to your rifle any way you like, in the same manner a hairy man self-identifies as a chick and demands her testicles be waxed.

    Fact is, that rifle was never referred to in any way shape or form as locked and loaded by anyone ever. Except you, who again deluded yourself that you are the only person on this planet with experience in anything and decided to use the American term to boost your little warrie.

    Yes my opinion is worth more than yours. Yes I carried one for quite some time. No, not on a two way range, but as a professional soldier would have done it on the two way range if required. One thing I wouldn’t have done is bitched about it the entire time, made myself a complete hindrance and angled to leave my ‘mates’ I was apparently so close to in the J and put my feet up behind the wire for rhe rest of my tour as an identified liability to my battalion.

    And then oscillate between moaning about it and claiming non-existent status as a reluctant hero for the next 50 years.

    So, to summarise: Wrong, and wrong.

    What’s next?

  193. lotocoti

    OK but I still don’t see how its value goes through the roof.

    If a property happened to suddenly fall within the Permanent Way, who do you think would get the best possible price from the government?
    Some tax paying schlub, or the de facto Premier?

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think it is axiomatic Dr. BG that if the answer to self comes back negative on all indices then a sensible girl will start to show disinterest, with a tendency to walk away. Perhaps you can lift your game, be more entertaining (or accommodating), and restore the friendship.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So, to summarise: Wrong, and wrong.

    What’s next?

    Game, set and match, K.D.

  196. dover_beach

    Matthew Schmitz in The True Con takes a spiked bat to George Will:

    Though Will still claims to be a conservative, he has radically changed what he means by that term. In 1983’s Statecraft as Soulcraft, Will argued that government inevitably does legislate morality, and indeed “should do so more often.” He rejected “the idea that governments should be neutral in major conflicts about social values.” He denied that “the public interest is produced by the spontaneous cooperation of individuals making arrangements in free markets.” He confessed his “deviation from laissez-faire orthodoxy,” and announced, “It is time to come up from individualism.”

    In 2019’s The Conservative Sensibility, Will employs the same gentlemanly prose—to opposite ends. He states that government should refrain from “imposing its opinions about what happiness the citizens should choose to pursue.” He maintains that men should be “free to maximize their satisfactions according to their own hierarchy of preference.” He concludes that the public interest can, after all, be achieved “in the spontaneous order of a lightly governed society.” He frets over the fact that the poor pay no income tax, and describes the rich and corporations as “unpopular minorities.” He champions “individualism and the rights of the individual.”

    Despite his complete ideological reversal, Will has remained remarkably consistent in his self-styling. In 1983, he lamented that America contained “almost no conservatives, properly understood.” Today, he again calls conservatism “a persuasion without a party.” His positions have changed, but his pose has not. He is still the lone True Conservative.

    A tour de force. RTWT.

  197. EvilElvis

    To paraphrase a Mark Steyn comment from a few years ago; In the 60 years from 1890 to 1950 we went from horse and cart, larders and theaters to cars, air travel, refrigerators, radio, television and movies. In the 60 years from 1950 to now things haven’t changed too much.

    The pinnacle of human existence. The years following 1950 have apparently been highly progressive, yet without major significance.

  198. Mater

    That term was used by the Yanks.
    You’ve been playing “Tour of Duty” again.

    “Locked and loaded”?

    “Pot, this is Kettle. You’re black, out!”

  199. 1735099

    I had considerable experience in the bloodhouses that were closing times,

    Yep – it shows.
    Obviously some cerebral degeneration as a consequence.

    I was one of those grunts you detest

    The term “grunt” comes from across the Pacific. It’s about as authentic as “locked and loaded”.
    And I don’t despise infantrymen. I served eighteen months in that corps.
    Eight months in Oz and ten in SVN.
    Where did you “serve” old mate – apart from the front bar of the Shamrock?
    Tough gig, was it?
    End up with PTSD, did you?

  200. 1735099

    No, not on a two way range, but as a professional soldier would have done it on the two way range if required

    He would have if he could have, but he didn’t.
    Your lot are a dime a dozen.

    One thing I wouldn’t have done is bitched about it the entire time, made myself a complete hindrance and angled to leave my ‘mates’ I was apparently so close to in the J and put my feet up behind the wire for rhe rest of my tour as an identified liability to my battalion.

    And you were there at the time? That’s how you’re such an authority?
    It’s weird how you’ve constructed a fiction from words on a screen.
    It’s called projection.
    Get help.

  201. “Obviously some cerebral degeneration as a consequence.”

    It’s kind of nice that the grub is finally writing some truthful words about himself. Perhaps there’s some hope…..but maybe not.

  202. Dr Faustus

    I would have thought a house bought alongside a railway track would diminish in value.

    The house in question is a couple of blocks away from the proposed new Boggo Road station. The track itself is underground at that point and all the way through the city. Consequently the Cross River Rail project puts Mz Trad’s new establishment (and the surrounding area) less than 10 minutes away from the new Albert Street station in the heart of the Brisbane CBD.

    Cross River Rail has been on the verge of official approval for years.

    The project has indeed been floating around for years. But until the Queensland Government announced out of the blue in April that it was “going it alone” it was deeply uncertain because the economics don’t stack up and the Commonwealth firmly refused to fund the infrastructure.

    Much as I dislike Trad, I don’t see this as a some grand plan to make a killing.

    Based on pricing for similar properties in nearby West End, her $650k investment is a certainty to double+ in value. Sure a $600+ windfall gain is small bikkies for a connected Labor apparatchik – one can only marvel that she could be arsed to bend down to pick up the loose change.

  203. Johno

    The term “grunt” comes from across the Pacific.

    Prior to SVN all australian Infantry were referred to as “crunchies”. Apparently the diggers from the WW2
    refrred to their boots as “beetle crunchers”.

    We started referring to ouselves as “grunts” when we served in SVN. Sniffy numberwang was referred to as”oopsa daisey poo poo”. Fell down a lot.

  204. Leigh Lowe:

    How many gooks did you bag, SS Private Spudentropp?

    Just being helpful here, LL.
    The correct term is SS-Schutz.
    Private is a British/US term.
    🙂

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, Veneuela’s grid just fell over again. System black event.
    Amazing how socialism works so well.

  206. Muddy

    Just blemished the new fred with my presence.

  207. Geriatric Mayfly

    Iran Says 17 CIA ‘Spies’ Who Hid ‘Messages in Stones’ Arrested

    Presumably found in groups of three, and only to picked up by agents wearing latex gloves.

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We started referring to ouselves as “grunts” when we served in SVN.

    “Grunts” – supposedly standing for “Government Reject, Unfit for Normal Training” was used in the mid 1970’s, but I never heard “Locked and loaded.”.

  209. Johno

    I thought it was the sound you made when you hoisted that f###king big pack up onto your back.

  210. DrBeauGan

    I think it is axiomatic Dr. BG that if the answer to self comes back negative on all indices then a sensible girl will start to show disinterest, with a tendency to walk away. Perhaps you can lift your game, be more entertaining (or accommodating), and restore the friendship.

    It never required much input from me, Lizzie. It’s never been about friendship from her point of view. It was about getting me into bed so she had more leverage. At one point she explained my reluctance as a limp dick, and offered me viagra. Nice girls don’t keep Viagra in the bedroom cabinet.

    Friendship and taking her out to dinner with the occasional gift of cash for “taxi fare” would have been fine with me. But I’m old fashioned about sex and think it ought to be more than just exercise. Maria finds this incomprehensible, which tells you quite a lot about her.

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I thought it was the sound you made when you hoisted that f###king big pack up onto your back.

    That’s where it came from, indeed, but the alternative definition was usually good for the odd brawl..

  212. DrBeauGan

    And if she wants to walk away, that’s fine. But then she shoui make dates

  213. Johno

    As to “Lock and load” Aussies never used that. Sniffy numberwang, the all knowing, heard it when he watched Platoon and thought it sounded cool. I never heard an aussie say that ,ever, it just doesn’t make any sense.

  214. DrBeauGan

    Shiut -> shouldn’t.

  215. Geriatric Mayfly:

    Presumably found in groups of three, and only to picked up by agents wearing latex gloves.

    Just curious, was this the cell of agents who recently hired a truck to carry their hoard of stolen shoes to Venezuela?

  216. jo

    DBG, more than likely she is showing the same interest in any number of other marks, earning quick money on her back, but more importantly another iron in the fire to get out of the place. I like your commentary on Cuba.

  217. Ragu

    Hasn’t Numberwang walked backwards to Bourke, yet?

  218. 1735099

    heard it when he watched Platoon and thought it sounded cool.

    Never watched “Platoon” in my life – Septic bullshit.
    The only movie about the Vietnam war worth watching is “The Odd Angry Shot”.
    Mind you, I haven’t seen “Danger Close” yet.
    By the way, Johno – get yourself a copy of “Australia’s Vietnam – Myth Vs History”.

    The first myth he debunks is “Every Nasho who Served in Vietnam was a Volunteer”
    (p 41).
    You might just learn something…..

  219. DrBeauGan

    jo
    #3113807, posted on July 23, 2019 at 11:24 am
    DBG, more than likely she is showing the same interest in any number of other marks, earning quick money on her back, but more importantly another iron in the fire to get out of the place. I like your commentary on Cuba.

    More than likely, Jo.

    I feel sorry for anyone in her situation, and I’d help her if I could. But not the Richard Gere way. I also get the horrors thinking about the probable future of her little girl.

    I can’t change Cuba though. Nor the way Maria thinks.

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    By the way, Johno – get yourself a copy of “Australia’s Vietnam – Myth Vs History”.

    I’d second that comment, Johno. Page 45 makes interesting reading, regarding a perfectly legal, legitimate option to being conscripted.

  221. Johno

    I saw The odd angry shot. Bullshit movie. You seem to have borrowed memories. Where did you get “lock and load” from? Was it a phantom comic?

  222. Johno

    I don’t read books about SVN. My experience is first hand.Never peeled a spud ,but.

  223. 1735099

    I don’t read books about SVN. My experience is first hand.Never peeled a spud ,but.

    Nor did I.
    You have created a fiction about my service, about which you know SFA.
    Post your regimental number so that your bona fides can be checked out.
    Otherwise, there’s always the possibility that you’re some pimply wanker who gets his kicks from telling warries.
    That’s just as credible as your continued abuse of my service, but less disrespectful to myself and those I served with.
    If you lack the courage to be identified, fuck off.

  224. Armies of Sand by Kenneth M Pollack.
    A really interesting book about how and why Arab armies have such wildly differing outcomes in their endeavours.
    He has a section on the Vietnam War and goes into the detail of how and why South Vietnam as a ‘Palace Guard’ military became so inept at fighting the war until the near end.

  225. Johno

    Now Now sniffy don’t get excited.You have denigrated your own service by continually telling us how smart you were to get out of the bush and into a job counting blankets. You left your fellow diggers to carry the load out in the bush. Sections were always undermanned and when a scab like you scuttled off, you remained on strength, no replacement. The men in your amazingly multicultural section had to stand your pickets,carry your loads, walk your K’s because you weren’t man enough to do it.
    Just stop making stuff up, take a deep breath, calm down. We all know you are a sook, accept it.

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Armies of Sand by Kenneth M Pollack.

    Thanks, Winston – I’ll bag a copy.

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