Open Forum: August 17, 2019

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  1. stackja

    AJ’s only ‘crime’. He upsets the usual suspects. RGR, MT, BS etc. The JA issue is just a joke.

  2. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    LOL

    Tehran Sam getting an AM for not being corrupt as Obeid.

  3. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Fewer vaccines, more cases of infection.

    Apologies, Dot, but I’m a slow learner.
    Where in your posted link does it support your above statement?

  4. stackja

    I haven’t heard the supposed exact words AJ supposedly said about JA. How much is just inventive journalism?

  5. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    AJ’s only ‘crime’. He upsets the usual suspects.

    Like pretty much all honest, hard-working Australians.

  6. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Look at other contemporary sources, plus your own assertions MV.

    I’m not doing your homework.

  7. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    More on the world’s silliest lawsuit:

    Katy Perry’s Lawsuit – A Travesty For Songwriters

  8. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I’m not doing your homework.

    I’m not asking you to do my homework, Dot.
    I’m asking you to point out where and how your posted article in any way supports your assertion that fewer vaccines has led to an increase in the incidence of influenza in Western Australia.

    The Ministerial media statement statement you linked to in no way supports your inference that fewer vaccines has led to increased cases of influenza in WA. In fact the only definitive statement in the whole article is that less Sandgropers are getting the ‘flu shots.

  9. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Yes…and you asserted there are more cases of the flu…ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….

  10. Win

    So telling the NZ PM lecturing Australia to put a sock in it has now entered the lexicon of the politically correct left.

  11. stackja

    Peter – AJ has a bigger audience than hard working people.

  12. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    I am seriously considering emigrating and getting qualified at the Cali bar.

    LADY GAGA “Shallow” LAWSUIT | Why This Will Keep Happening.

    [Pro tip – never get between a lawyer and his money]

    Basically, if you write any music to “I forget” or “I close my eyes” (backwards), then you’re gunna get sued.

    There is also the theory that every pop song since Let It Be has used the same chord progression.

  13. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Peter – AJ has a bigger audience than hard working people.

    I’m sure of it, Stackja.
    In fact, as big an audience as other people’s money can buy.
    Those Getup! protesters against fracking don’t work for nothing, you know.

  14. stackja

    Peter – I sense something!

  15. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I sense something!

    So do I!
    Time for another episode of Limp Wrist Iron Fist on Netflix.
    (It better improve real soon).

  16. stackja

    Frank – Best music to adapt is Bach etc.

  17. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Yeah, I am pretty sure that Bach’s music was repeated by both Flame and Katy Perry, as well as Art of Noise.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ita ruffles feathers of ABC staff

    Nick Tabakoff
    Associate Editor
    16 minutes ago August 18, 2019
    3 Comments

    Ita Buttrose’s cheeky claim last Monday that staff at Aunty are “very sensitive people” who need to be “patted a bit and reassured that all is well” drew guffaws in the commercial media. But it went down like a lead balloon with the ABC’s pivotal union delegate Sinddy Ealy: at a time Aunty doesn’t need it.

    That’s because the ABC has been in a protracted and tense pay negotiation with Ealy, in her capacity as the Community and Public Sector Union’s (CPSU) ABC Section Secretary. Last week, the ABC put its offer of a 1.7 per cent pay rise to a vote of Ealy’s union members _ and Buttrose’s comments only seem to have picked a fight with the woman who could make or break the deal.

    Ealy made a point of directly contradicting and calling out Buttrose’s comments, tweeting: “ABC staff are strong, caring, resilient people who take great pride in serving the Australian people. @ItaButtrose”.

    Ealy pointedly disagreed with Ita and the ABC gang on other fronts. She told staff she would “not recommend” the ABC’s one-year, 1.7 per cent offer, which was short of the 2 per cent deal she put to management.

    Ealy saved her most scathing criticism for proposed changes to redundancy rights under the new offer, given that the ABC is set to have to make staff cuts in the coming three years. She claimed the ABC was trying to create a new environment where bosses could “run whatever redundancy process they want, including… the notorious ‘Hunger Games’ process fiercely rejected by ABC staff in 2014”.

    Is Ealy right? ABC staff have until next Monday to decide

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  19. Natural Instinct:

    Well I’m sorry, but “Let’s bomb Western Industrial Civilisation back to the Dark Ages because a 16-year-old climate activist with cute pigtails made the cover of GQ and is now travelling across the Atlantic on an expensive sailing boat” is not an argument. Really it isn’t.

    It’s called ‘pedophagy’, used in a manipulative manner because people tend to suspend a degree of belief when confronted with a child or baby.
    Second interesting point is that the word has disappeared from Wikipaedia. It was there several months ago when I first heard it, but the only mention of it is in the habit of some animals who eat other animals young or eggs.
    So when you see a leftie pushing a child forward to make a point, you can be sure they know they are lying.

  20. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Words to learn:

    Hybristophilia
    Pedophagy
    Niggardly

  21. cohenite

    Time for another episode of Limp Wrist Iron Fist on Netflix.
    (It better improve real soon).

    It doesn’t.

  22. cohenite

    ‘pedophagy’

    Try pedophrasty.

  23. calli

    I had to look up the first one, Dot.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    She claimed the ABC was trying to create a new environment where bosses could “run whatever redundancy process they want, including… the notorious ‘Hunger Games’ process fiercely rejected by ABC staff in 2014”.

    That’s a shame. If the ABC ran it as a reality show it’d rate its socks off. They could sell the rights all around the world! Ms Ealy could be the director if she wants.

  25. calli

    Some are known to eat their children.

    Metaphorically, of course.

  26. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Pedophrasty = Maude Flanders

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3134641, posted on August 18, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    Doggies in the 8. Hope you’re watching areff

    Don’t want to play them in The finals.

    Kenny Hinkley must be so relieved that he won’t have to worry about that.

  28. calli

    “ABC staff are strong, caring, resilient people

    If you have to say it, it can’t be true.

  29. Frank

    Words to learn:

    Absquatulate

  30. dover_beach

    ABC campaigning to end duck shooting in Victoria.

  31. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    ABC campaigning to end duck shooting in Victoria.

    You left out the next part; “and they have been doing so for 40 years”.

  32. Some History

    JC
    #3134594, posted on August 18, 2019 at 5:05 pm
    Maybe because you get older and it impacts more. I’ve been in bed for three days with the flu. Maybe flu intensity is much higher these days due to climate change. But seriously, I reckon the flu is stronger these days. Also, the flu shot is a freaking fraud too.

    To your speedy recovery.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3134599, posted on August 18, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    GWS are a pathetic team.

    The Greater Western Sydney Ferrari.
    Wouldn’t start in the cold last week.
    Couldn’t get out of second this week.
    Dodgy as.
    The Ferrari body is a fibreglass knock-off.
    Under the bonnet is an old Holden grey motor with a cracked head, leaking oil everywhere.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    The English lead the world in sporting ground rain cover technology.

  35. Des Deskperson

    ‘The ABC has been in a protracted and tense pay negotiation with Ealy, in her capacity as the Community and Public Sector Union’s (CPSU) ABC Section Secretary. ‘

    Bear in mind that these negotiations only involve staff covered by the ABC enterprise agreement – grunts and lower level management.

    The ‘stars’ have there own individual agreements with management or have their own preproduction companies with commercial contracts with the ABC. I imagine that most of them have done rather better than a 1,7% increase.

    The ABC’s redundancy arrangements for staff covered by the EA currently provide for a severance payment equal to four weeks’ salary for every completed year of service for the first five years and three weeks’ salary for every completed year of service thereafter to a maximum of 24 years’ service.

    These arrangements are exceptionally generous by Commonwealth public sector standards. The ‘stars’, one way or another, almost certainly do better.

  36. Cactus

    So I saw Quentin Tarantinos Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. No spoilers.

    I am a big fan of his movies. I love how he sets up tension in a scene. How the dialogue runs. Wonderful.

    Where does this movie sit against his others? I think middle of the pack. Top for me is Pulp, closely followed by Inglorius Bastards and then maybe Django.

    Lots of humour. Lots of Pop Culture references. I wish I almost did a 50s through 60s film and TV course. I reckon as I was born in 80’s lots went over my head. In that way, the people who lived through that era will probably get a lot more out of it. The violence which might turn some off was actually pretty subdued compared to his other films and more cartoonish in a way.

    So look well worth seeing. If only to reward someone for.not doing a remake or a superhero movie.

    Keen to hear others thoughts with no spoilers.

  37. Mater

    I can’t quite believe I just saw that Libra Sanitary Napkins ad on TV, at 20:10 in the evening (Channel 10). My wife was stunned and my two young boys, still cringing.

    Seeing women change their used pads, vision of menstrual blood running down their legs and splashes of period blood across the screen, is surely not necessary.

    The slogan:
    “Why is it considered unacceptable to show period blood?
    Periods are normal. Showing them should be too.
    #bloodnormal”

    Pretty visceral images and totally unnecessary in front of the kids – not that it did much for we parents either.
    Ladies, we know it happens. No need to rub it in our faces!

  38. Geriatric Mayfly

    Chortle

    Another pic of that ‘Palestinian-American’ womyn at American Thinker, togged up in Yassa Arafat’s head threads.

  39. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3134719, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:16 pm
    Chortle”

    Thanks Calli.

  40. Nick

    Strange they feel the need to for tampons they’d never do with toilet paper.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ladies, we know it happens. No need to rub it in our faces!”

    I don’t think the ladies here at the Cat wish to rub it in anyone’s face. When will this ridiculousness stop? What next….a toilet paper advertisement showing people pooing. After all…pooing is normal.

  42. calli

    Why is it considered unacceptable to show period blood?

    Modesty.

    Next question.

  43. Why is it considered unacceptable to show period blood?

    Should move to San Francisco. They’re happy to show poo in the streets there.

  44. Gab

    I’m willing that duck hunting season should be banned but only on the proviso that it is replaced by possum hunting season year round.

  45. Gab

    Why is it considered unacceptable to show period blood?

    Modesty.

    and decorum and civility.

  46. Crossie

    assie of Sydney
    #3134732, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:36 pm
    “Ladies, we know it happens. No need to rub it in our faces!”

    I don’t think the ladies here at the Cat wish to rub it in anyone’s face. When will this ridiculousness stop? What next….a toilet paper advertisement showing people pooing. After all…pooing is normal.

    Not just here at the Cat, but ladies everywhere would not bring this up let alone rub it in anyone’s face. It’s the very unfeminine feminists and transgenders who are obsessed with the menses, the very people to whom it is most irrelevant.

  47. ‘Integrity? Cash for comments Jones?
    Des, you can be so funny sometimes.’

    A fair point, Peter/MV, but a lot of people, including it would seem, some cats, still take him seriously.

    Sans a manifestly obvious onset of barking mad dementia, Jones will always be someone who has to be taken seriously.
    Regardless of whether one agrees with him or not.
    He certainly has some hobby horses, which he pushes too hard, and I defy anybody to say there has not been an issue on which they have vehemently disagreed with him.
    However he’s a serious player, and only a bluddee fool would treat him as an irrelevance.

  48. JC

    , and I defy anybody to say there has not been an issue on which they have vehemently disagreed with him.

    Has there ever been a time when Driller doesn’t lead with his chin? Oh, how about lock the gate the movement to prevent fracking?

  49. Why is it considered unacceptable to show period blood?

    There seems to be no problem showing it galore in pub dunnies.
    Anyone who ever suggests that blokes are the messy, dirty sex, I’ll tender as evidence the state of the respective pub dunnies at the end of the night.

    I’ll also exhibit the state of tidiness & hygiene of the bedroom of the average young barmaid (especially backpackers) against the state of tidiness & hygiene of the bedroom of a jackeroo or young stockman in the ringer’s quarters of any outback cattle station.

    The discrepancy in either case is stark.

  50. Mater

    Ladies, apologies. No offence meant. Given my wife’s response, I didn’t mean to be accusatory and all encompassing.
    That Libra actually thinks this is a good idea, completely astounds me.

  51. JC

    Jones is responsible for our GDP growth being 1% lower over the past 30 years.

  52. cohenite

    Cactus

    #3134725, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:27 pm

    So I saw Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. No spoilers.

    Pulp is better but it comes second, maybe with Kill Bill. A wonderful fairy tale.

  53. JC

    And no pubbling. You know the rule.

  54. feelthebern

    Yeah, I am pretty sure that Bach’s music was repeated by both Flame and Katy Perry, as well as Art of Noise.

    Yeah but titties.

  55. Crossie

    We are about to see the ousting of a third NSW Liberal premier due to complete disregard for their voters. Barry O’Farrell got his comeuppance over a $3000 bottle of wine. Mike Baird thought he knew better than anyone who owned or raced greyhounds but we had to wait for a female premier to pull the rug from under conservative voters with the extremist abortion law.

    Even if Gladys made the “Sophie’s Choice” bargain with Greenwich thinking she will need him post election she could have told him all bets were off once she won in her own right. She seems to be exhibiting greater loyalty to a nominal opponent than her own voters and backbencher. Good riddance.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3134729, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    Strange they feel the need to for tampons they’d never do with toilet paper.

    Exactly.
    Do I need to see a bit of vindaloo induced loose stool dripping off the Sorbent to understand why I need it?

  57. It’s called ‘pedophagy’, used in a manipulative manner because people tend to suspend a degree of belief when confronted with a child or baby.
    Second interesting point is that the word has disappeared from Wikipaedia. It was there several months ago when I first heard it,

    There’s a reason I keep a dead tree Shorter Oxford Dictionary in the office, and use that and no other source, for looking up words.
    That reason is not that I have a luddite-style love for printed books.

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3134745, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:49 pm
    Ladies, apologies. No offence meant. Given my wife’s response, I didn’t mean to be accusatory and all encompassing.
    That Libra actually thinks this is a good idea, completely astounds me.”

    Nothing to apologise for Mater. And I agree…the advert is in bad taste…actually it is quite sick.

  59. JC

    Like Really. Book review in the OZ.

    He was the war hero who led Allied efforts in southeast Asia, the statesman who was so admired as last viceroy of India that he was invited to be its first governor-general, and the family man who was Prince Philip’s uncle and a valued mentor to Prince Charles.

    But recently uncovered FBI files and new interviews paint the 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma as a sexually voracious man whose bisexuality became a theme of US intelligence files. The documents came to light during research for a biography of Louis Mountbatten and his wife Edwina by Andrew Lownie, a fellow of the Royal ­Historical Society and president of the Biographers’ Club.

    Since the assassination of Lord Mountbatten in an IRA bomb attack­ 40 years ago, rumours have swirled about his sexuality, fuelled by his comment: “Edwina and I spent all our married lives getting into other people’s beds.”

    While Lady Mountbatten’s extramarital affairs are documented and acknowledged by their children, her husband’s private life has rarely been discussed. His official biographer wrote: “To suggest such a man was actively homosexual seems to be flying not merely in the face of the evidence but also of everything we understand about his character.”

    The FBI files cover more than three decades. The first is dated February 1944, soon after Mountbatten became supreme allied commander of southeast Asia. Elizabeth­ de la Poer Beresford, Baroness Decies, when interviewed about another matter, had mentioned being an intimate of Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary and their ladies-in-waiting.

    Hoover must haven collecting the info.

  60. feelthebern

    Pulp Fiction is the best because it blew the doors off the hinges.

    Hard to rank his other movies, because they all have different shit going for them.
    I love the overly dialogue in the Hateful Eight & Jackie Brown.
    And Django is a rip roaring story.
    Kill Bill part 2 is the weakest link, but has a lot going for it.
    Damnation, that man can direct.
    Can’t wait for the QT Star Trek.

  61. feelthebern

    Overly long dialogue.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That Libra actually thinks this is a good idea, completely astounds me.

    With you on that one, and I’m damned if I know why it’s produced by Libresse South Africa?

  63. feelthebern

    Comey tried to Hoover Trump & got slapped.
    In that sense, Trump was the first president to stand up to the FBI.
    No wonder the deep state have had their world turned upside down.

  64. Crossie

    Sans a manifestly obvious onset of barking mad dementia, Jones will always be someone who has to be taken seriously.
    Regardless of whether one agrees with him or not.
    He certainly has some hobby horses, which he pushes too hard, and I defy anybody to say there has not been an issue on which they have vehemently disagreed with him.
    However he’s a serious player, and only a bluddee fool would treat him as an irrelevance.

    People constantly forget that he is the most popular radio personality in Australia with huge influence on his listeners. 2GB management may be issuing threats, but that’s all they are – empty threats. If they get rid of Alan Jones they will cut their audience in half and with it their revenue.

    I don’t agree with a lot of what he says but he is very good at it. What is more important I know a lot of people who agree with him to a great extent.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can’t wait for the QT Star Trek.

    Is that the one where the whole cast wears red shirts?

  66. JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3134686, posted on August 18, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    I am seriously considering emigrating and getting qualified at the Cali bar.

    There was a piece in the WSJ discussing partner distributions at the top firms. It’s between $US4 million and $15 million.

    Being a Law Firm Partner Was Once a Job for Life. That Culture Is All but Dead.

    At the modern law firm, not all partners are created equal, and data and billings rule

    Four hundred of Kirkland & Ellis LLP’s top lawyers gathered in May at an oceanfront resort in Southern California to toast another banner year.

    Kirkland was the highest-grossing law firm in the world for the second year running, earning $3.76 billion in revenue. When a slide flashed on the screen, showing the value of the firm’s shares, the partners in the room quickly did the math. They would be taking home $1.75 million to $15 million.

    Not invited were another 560 partners, who were back at the firm’s 15 offices around the world, working. Though outwardly carrying the same title as those lounging poolside in California, they hold no equity in the firm and generally can expect to make $800,000 at most. While a comfortable living, the salary and its implied second-class status is not the reward many expected after striving to join the venerated partnership.

    This is life at the modern law firm, where not all partners are created equal, and data and money rule.

    One-Stop ShopLaw firms have merged and grown to createlegal supermarkets for their clients.Average number of lawyers per firmSource: The American Lawyer and ALM IntelligenceNote: Data is for full-time equivalent headcount atthe 100 highest-grossing U.S. firms
    19902000’1002004006008001,000
    Being named a partner once meant joining a band of lawyers who jointly tended to longtime clients and took home comfortable, and roughly equal, paychecks. Job security was virtually guaranteed and partners rarely jumped ship.

    That model, and the culture that grew up around it, is all but dead. Law firms are now often partnerships in name only. Full-time chief executives, some without law degrees, have replaced the senior partner running human resources and accounting. Law firm names have trended toward the shorter and snappier, more befitting a tote bag than a law library.

    Many firms have expanded rapidly to mirror the growth of their corporate clients, with hundreds of partners spread around the world. The largest, Dentons, recently hit 10,000 lawyers in 78 countries, around a third of them partners.

    “Can you be partners with someone you don’t even know?” said legal consultant Aric Press.

    In the new paradigm, lawyers are expendable, and partners may jump to a competitor for the right amount of money, taking as many clients as possible with them on the way out.

    Junior lawyers always worked long hours for years before being promoted, but that meant a kind of lifetime tenure. Today, making partner can take more than a decade and still requires scraping for new business. Becoming a partner, the industry saying goes, is like winning a pie-eating contest only to find the prize is more pie.

    Elliott Portnoy, Dentons’s global chief executive, in Washington. Dentons is the world’s largest law firm, with 10,000 lawyers in 78 countries, around a third of them partners. Photo: Lexey Swall/GRAIN for The Wall Street Journal
    “If you get partners in their private moments to talk about ambitions for their children, I would be very surprised if many would articulate partnership in a large law firm,” said Elliott Portnoy, Dentons’s global chief executive.

    Gradual change

    In the 1980s, the most elite law firms were small and leaned on close ties to a few marquee clients passed down from one generation of partners to the next. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP worked for International Business Machines Corp. Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP represented Morgan Stanley . Shearman & Sterling LLP had Citibank. With a steady stream of work assured, few partners thought to look elsewhere.

    Legal EaseLaw-firm profits are rising faster thaninflation, nearly doubling since 2004.Average profits per equity partnerSource: The American Lawyer and ALM IntelligenceNote: Data is for 100 highest-grossing firms

    In 1985, trade magazine American Lawyer began publishing the revenue and profits of the nation’s top firms. Partners suddenly realized they could make more money at a competitor. Often, clients followed them.

    Meanwhile, firms grew and merged into one-stop legal shops, combing deal work, litigation, and tax and labor advice. In the late 1960s, the country’s largest was Shearman & Sterling, with 169 lawyers. Today there are 29 U.S. firms with at least 1,000 lawyers.

    A focus on data replaced tightknit camaraderie. Firms closely track how many billable hours each lawyer has logged, which clients are late on payment, and how many hours an assignment usually takes.

    When Miles Scully joined Gordon & Rees 30 years ago, he said, “I don’t know if we knew how to look at a financial statement.”

    “It was still the ‘Mad Men’ days. We’d have three-martini lunches,” he said. “At the end of the year, you looked at what was in the bank account and distributed it.”

    Share Your Thoughts

    How much has your working life changed in recent years? Join the conversation below.

    No firm embodies the changes more than Kirkland, which was founded in Chicago in 1909 and made its name on trial work for the Tribune Co. and other clients. The firm declined to comment for this article.

    Over the past decade, Kirkland has become known for making high-price offers to rising stars at competitors, for $10 million a year or more in some cases. It has embraced the two-tiered partner system, made up of a junior class paid a set salary and an inner circle of equity partners, who split the firm’s profits.

    The system is meant to reward ambitious young lawyers faster, before they weary of the entry-level title of associate. Left unsaid: The promotion often justifies a bump in their hourly rate to around $1,000, which enriches senior partners who share in the firm’s profits.

    The changes have pushed the spread between Kirkland’s highest- and lowest-paid partners to 43-to-1. Among its equity partners, the spread is nearing 9 to 1. Traditionally, the best-paid partner made no more than three or four times the most junior at the nation’s top law firms.

    Kirkland & Ellis’s office building entrance in New York. The firm has embraced the two-tiered partner system. Photo: Michael Bucher/The Wall Street Journal
    Leaders at rival firms say Kirkland’s pay has forced them to pay their own top performers more, at risk of blowing apart their culture.

    Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, a frequent target of Kirkland’s poaching efforts, has boosted the range between highest and lowest paid partners from less than 4-to-1 to about 6-to-1 in recent years, according to one partner. Top partners earn about $9 million. Simpson declined to comment.

    The investment-bank model

    When David Greenwald returned to co-lead Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP in 2013 after a turn as a top Goldman Sachs in-house lawyer, the Wall Street firm was dragging. Revenue had fallen 17% since 2007 and competitors were picking off its lawyers.

    One problem, he noticed, was that partners were notoriously lax about turning in their timesheets, which meant clients weren’t always getting billed. The slips were costing the firm $6 million a year.

    Mr. Greenwald realized the firm needed to operate less like a law firm partnership and more like the investment bank he’d just left, if it wanted to survive.

    He closed underperforming Asia offices and created a finance committee. All partners had to turn in plans for how to expand their businesses. Partners were paid more on merit than seniority, and could no longer see how much each of their peers made.

    And Mr. Greenwald told partners to submit their timesheets every week or risk a fine.

    Average profits for equity partners at Fried Frank have doubled since 2013, to more than $3 million last year, according to the firm. Gone is the egalitarianism that marked Mr. Greenwald’s early days at the firm: Fried Frank’s highest-paid partner makes 13 times its lowest-paid.

    “We’re all on the path from being small partnerships, in which everyone can get in a room and debate and make a decision, to by necessity having to centralize a lot of the decision-making in a group of people or an individual,” Mr. Greenwald said.

    That journey from partnerships to profit machines has made some lawyers very wealthy. At the 15 most-profitable law firms, top partners bill on average $1,655 an hour and their rates are rising faster than inflation, according to legal analytics company Bodhala.

    At the nation’s 100 largest firms, average equity-partner profits have doubled since 2004, to $1.88 million last year, according to American Lawyer. Eight firms average more than $4 million.

    “We’re making much more than anybody who doesn’t save lives deserves,” said David Boies, the litigator who broke off from Cravath in 1997 to launch his own firm. In his best years, Mr. Boies has paid himself $25 million, a spokeswoman confirmed.

    Pity the associate

    As firms compete to keep profits rising for those at the top, lawyers further down the ladder are sometimes getting left behind. Promising associates who could once expect to be named a partner within seven or eight years are waiting 10 years or more.

    Firms have created new steppingstones along the way to appease them—and keep them grinding.

    One newly promoted partner at a big firm said he was shocked to learn he would have to spend a year as counsel, an increasingly popular interim title. The firm told him it was to prepare him for the bigger change of being partner. “I wouldn’t be a cynical lawyer if I didn’t think there were other profit-motive reasons,” he said.

    Another popular stop-off is “non-equity partner,” the title held by those 560 Kirkland lawyers not invited to the California retreat. They earn a salary rather than sharing firm profits.

    In 2000, 78% of partners held equity in their firms, according to American Lawyer’s ALM Intelligence. Last year, 56% did.

    At Kirkland, junior partners compete each year for a few coveted slots in the equity-earning partnership, many billing more than 2,500 hours a year to try to set themselves apart. Given how much of the day’s work isn’t billable, that can require working 80 hours or more a week.

    At elite New York firms, a two-tiered system was once unthinkable. Partners were partners. In the past year, however, cracks have emerged at two of them.

    Simpson Thacher’s leaders told partners in April that they plan to start naming non-equity partners. It is hard not to see the move as a response to poaching by Kirkland, which has lured away more than a dozen Simpson lawyers since 2016, most of them associates and counsel that Kirkland made into partners.

    “If the firm won’t be loyal to you,” said David Lat, a longtime lawyer and legal blogger turned recruiter, “why should you be loyal to the firm?”

    Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, a 131-year old firm that was home to a future U.S. Supreme Court Justice and two New York governors, made a similar announcement this spring when it rolled out a two-tiered partnership. Its leaders said the move is intended to reward promising young lawyers earlier and make the firm more competitive in recruiting.

    “It was getting harder to tell associates, ‘stick around for 10 years and see what happens then,’ ” said Willkie’s chairman, Steven Gartner. “They wanted more certainty and wanted it sooner.”

    Making partner doesn’t just take longer. It takes hustle. A few decades ago, partner titles were handed out largely on the basis of being technically proficient. Now, being a business generator is a crucial component.

    Janice Mac Avoy, a Fried Frank partner, said when she earned the partner title 23 years ago, the business model was “wait for the phone to ring” and do a good job for the client on the other end.

    When a partner suggested a lawyer being considered for promotion had great contacts and could generate new business, she recalls a fellow partner saying, “You know that’s not an appropriate consideration.”

    Top BillingElite lawyers routinely charge more than$1,500 an hour.Source: BodhalaNote: Data is average of the highest-listed partnerrate at the 15 most profitable U.S. firms
    2005’10’1502505007501,0001,2501,500$1,750

    The holdouts

    Even as the world changes around them, some law firms are holding on to the old partnership ethos.

    A handful of law firms still operate under a lockstep compensation system, which pays partners in a relatively tight band based on seniority, rather than how much revenue they bring in.

    At one such firm, Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP, the hierarchy is laid out on the firm’s letterhead, where partners are listed by rank. (The list doubles as a handy tool for summer interns unsure which partner assigning them tasks is more important.)RainmakersProfits per equity partner at the most profitable U.S. firmsSource: The American Lawyer and ALM Intelligence*1986 data not available

    Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & KatzKirkland & EllisPaul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton &GarrisonCravath, Swaine & MooreQuinn Emanuel Urquhart &Sullivan*Sullivan & CromwellDavis Polk & WardwellSimpson Thacher & BartlettWeil, Gotshal & MangesMilbank$0 million$2$4$6$8
    Cravath, another lockstep firm and long considered one of the nation’s most elite, recently celebrated its 200th year with a party at the New-York Historical Society. Guests left with a glossy coffee-table book titled “Becoming Cravath” that highlights the firm’s most famous clients and boasts of the “Cravath system” of nurturing talent.

    The firm’s partners are still, by any measure, well-paid; the average made $4.6 million last year, according to American Lawyer. But being paid by years of service, rather than productivity, can fail to keep the biggest rainmakers happy.

    A high-profile deal partner, Scott Barshay, jumped in 2016 from Cravath to New York firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP. Mr. Barshay, who brought over clients including IBM and Xerox Corp., is now one of a handful of Paul Weiss partners paid more than $10 million a year, according to people familiar with his pay.

    Paul Weiss declined to comment.

    The firm has long had a modified lockstep model, which gives Chairman Brad Karp the ability to pay bonuses to those at the top.

    Mr. Karp has expressed concern about what’s happening to the profession. At a December 2017 meeting of the firm’s partners, he spoke at length about how modern law firms bore little resemblance to those a decade earlier, before the recession hit.

    “Many law firms have become so focused on the next client, the next matter, the next dollar, that they have failed to notice the gradual, but inexorable, disintegration of their cultural glue,” he said, according to a transcript of his remarks.

    In the same talk, he also noted that Paul Weiss profits had risen 92% over the previous decade.

    Last year, they rose even higher, to an average of $5.02 million per partner.

    This is insane, because it’s a tertiary business. There’s very little value added.

  67. The Countess

    That ad is awful.

  68. Crossie

    Anyone who ever suggests that blokes are the messy, dirty sex, I’ll tender as evidence the state of the respective pub dunnies at the end of the night.

    And not just pubs, check out the female toilets at universities at the end of the day, even our best and brightest females are not that when it comes to dunnies.

  69. Cassie of Sydney

    “I don’t agree with a lot of what he says but he is very good at it.”

    Jones upsets the right people…..like the Toowoomba turd…which means, as far as I am concerned, that he is doing something right.

  70. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Which is why I hope ROSS destroys much of it JC, but the panhandling and shakedowns in these frivolous music lawsuits look very enriching.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Which is why I hope ROSS destroys much of it JC, but the panhandling and shakedowns in these frivolous music lawsuits look very enriching.

    Why would anyone claim ownership of a Katie Perry song?

  72. C.L.

    There is also the theory that every pop song since Let It Be has used the same chord progression.

    They don’t quite say that but the argument as presented is very interesting.
    —————
    My favourite ever guitarist is Mick Taylor, Brian Jones’s replacement for the Stones. Head-hunted by Jagger and Richards at 19 in 1969, he was asked by a journalist at the time why he was chosen. “I assumed I was the best guitarist available,” he replied imperiously. He got his start in swinging London a few years earlier for John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers (at 17) when that band’s guitarist – a bloke named ERIC CLAPTON – didn’t show up for a gig at The Hop. Taylor asked if he could take his place and was allowed to do so. He knew their entire repertoire and performed masterfully. It was Taylor who lifted the Stones into the stratosphere in their golden era (1968 to 1974). Then he quit one night at a party. Quit the Rolling Stones. Anyway, I’ve been stuck on this extended riff of his on ‘Sway’ – taken from the Stones’ Sticky Fingers and performed live with Carla Olsen in 1990. Otherworldly virtuosity and still imperious. From 2:40 ——->>>>>>>>>>>>>

  73. John Constantine

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/new-zealand-legalizes-cryptocurrency-salaries-including-bitcoin-2019-8?r=US&IR=T

    This allows bitcoin– the world’s largest cryptocurrency by market cap – to serve as a form of payment for New Zealand workers when the law goes into effect September 1.

    The decision was originally filed in an August 7 note, which also detailed New Zealand’s plans to allow for bonuses to be paid in cryptocurrency. The salary option will still fall under the nation’s income tax scheme, and the ruling excludes self-employed workers from switching their income to cryptocurrency.

    The move brings the controversial digital asset further into the realm of everyday payment methods. Cryptocurrencies are relatively free of regulation, and their untrackable nature helped them grow popular with anonymous online purchases. The move serves as “another step towards governments recognising that actually people are wanting to be paid in” cryptocurrencies, said Thomas Hulme, a solicitor at London-based law firm Mackrell Turner Garrett, to the FT.

  74. Crossie

    Mater
    #3134745, posted on August 18, 2019 at 8:49 pm
    Ladies, apologies. No offence meant. Given my wife’s response, I didn’t mean to be accusatory and all encompassing.
    That Libra actually thinks this is a good idea, completely astounds me.

    Advertising executives have completely lost the plot but retained the ability to convince companies that being obnoxious will translate into sales and profits.

  75. C.L.

    Tray again …
    From 2:40 ——–>>>>>>>>>>>

  76. JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #3134766, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    Which is why I hope ROSS destroys much of it JC, but the panhandling and shakedowns in these frivolous music lawsuits look very enriching.

    I received 3 quotes from 3 real estate attorneys on a real estate transaction. $US16K, US$9K and US$7K. You can get that shit done here for around A$2.5K. American lawyers are fucking thieves.

  77. Steve trickler

    The opening of this clip has similar sounds to that in the film, Aliens. Thomas Bergersen at work.

    A creative piece of work.



  78. cohenite

    This is insane, because it’s a tertiary business. There’s very little value added.

    Tell that to a client getting screwed by government or a vexatious litigant; numbnuts.

  79. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    16k for conveyancing?

    Geez I saw 3.3% on a friend’s contract. I baulked at it and she never talked about her solicitors again.

    Good for her and her husband they weren’t buying the same 4 bedroom home in Inner West Sydney or the North Shore (it was in the sticks).

    I’ve seen conveyancers quote $600, $750 and $800 plus disbursements.

    Transaction costs in the country are crippling. Imagine paying near 10% on professional fees before taxes.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    I received 3 quotes from 3 real estate attorneys on a real estate transaction. $US16K, US$9K and US$7K. You can get that shit done here for around A$2.5K. American lawyers are fucking thieves.

    Undoubtedly.
    Although how much of the US fees would be PI premiums?

  81. Tell that to a client getting screwed by government or a vexatious litigant; numbnuts.

    There’s a use for them.
    But they don’t add value.
    A stroke of the pen, eliminating a pile of laws – and hey presto! There’s need for 50% of the lawyers we already got.

    Slim Dusty for very good reason called them the “Men who come behind” (standing in other’s footsteps)

  82. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Nolesy!

    Hang with the blokes, have some smokes, get on the pokes, and get some free cokes

    It is pretty funny watching this with the subtitles going.

  83. JC

    Goka’s great.

    Sebastian Gorka DrG

    How did you get hired by the CIA four years after you voted for the Communist Party of the USA you treasonous piece of putrid excrescence.

    https://www-m.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/john-brennan-cia-communist-vote/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&rm=1
    Quote Tweet
    John O. Brennan
    @JohnBrennan
    · 19h
    The stain Donald Trump leaves on our Nation’s soul should be a constant reminder that we cannot assume candidates for public office have the competence, integrity, & decency Americans deserve. In 2020, we need to elect someone to safeguard & strengthen democracy, not trample it.

  84. Des Deskperson

    ‘Sans a manifestly obvious onset of barking mad dementia, Jones will always be someone who has to be taken seriously.’

    Taken seriously as a political force, doubtlessly, but my point referred to his credibility and integrity.

    The main affect of his his crass and clumsy comment about Ardern has been to mask the real problem with her government – a shoddy self-righteousness detached from any sense of reality or responsibility – and to instead award her the prized status of victim. In terms of progressing the debate, it is tactically and strategically unintelligent.

    But I’m assuming that that’s not what Jones is interested in or wants.

  85. Geriatric Mayfly

    How would that tampon ad. be received in Woke Britain, where gender stereotyping is now a capital offence.

  86. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3134780, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:30 pm
    Goka’s great.

    Sebastian Gorka DrG

    How did you get hired by the CIA four years after you voted for the Communist Party of the USA you treasonous piece of putrid excrescence.”

    That’s what you gotta do when dealing with the putrid left…you throw the garbage back at them.

  87. dover_beach

    Anyway, I’ve been stuck on this extended riff of his on ‘Sway’ – taken from the Stones’ Sticky Fingers and performed live with Carla Olsen in 1990. Otherworldly virtuosity and still imperious. From 2:40 ——->>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wow. Just wow. Had to listen to it twice. That really was masterful.

  88. P

    I regret if this comment offends anyone in any way, or anyone finds it crude or lacking decorum.

    It’s been a long time since I was 51 and experienced no more the beautiful feeling of femininity that on those days each month I always had felt. I was fortunate enough not to have any pain but I did experience tension for several days leading up to menstruation. That was not so good but it was indeed a very good sensation at the actual arrival of my period.
    Silly as this may sound my husband always treated me as special at that time of the month. He was more attentive and concerned, so perhaps that added to why I always felt so good at those times.
    Anyway I’ve always enjoyed being feminine, as a girl and as a woman.
    That advert above on this page sickens and enrages me but I appreciate it being shown here because if it ever comes on my TV screen I’ll immediately switch off the TV.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    I’ve seen conveyancers quote $600, $750 and $800 plus disbursements.

    True.
    I used to use conveyancers but I tend to pay a little bit more to get a lawyer on the case.
    In two separate instances I found that my conveyancer was too easily intimidated by a lawyer.
    Example.
    We are vendors.
    Purchaser is a has-been sportsman who likes to win at everything.
    Settlement day comes.
    Removals van arrives with purchaser’s gear but there is some glitch with settlement.
    Purchaser’s lawyer rings my conveyancer and demands keys without settlement or he will sue for rain damage to his shitty furniture.
    Conveyancer shits himself and caves in. He assures me that it will all get sorted and we want to avoid being sued.
    It all settled the next day and I found out later that the “glitch with settlement” was the purchaser’s lawyer going to a fucking funeral.
    A lawyer also told me later my guy should have told him to load his stuff up again and fuck off.
    .
    Months later I left a card in his letterbox congratulating him on getting a top house and not to take any notice of people who say he paid over the odds.

  90. Crossie

    The main affect of his his crass and clumsy comment about Ardern has been to mask the real problem with her government – a shoddy self-righteousness detached from any sense of reality or responsibility – and to instead award her the prized status of victim. In terms of progressing the debate, it is tactically and strategically unintelligent.

    The reaction was overblown as it usually is to anything said by conservatives but do you honestly think our partisan media would have written a syllable against Ardern even if Jones was not involved? Horseface is untouchable because she put on a headscarf after Christchurch.

  91. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Newspoll: Post-poll reality check for Coalition

    Simon Benson
    NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR
    1 minute ago August 18, 2019
    No Comments

    The Coalition’s commanding electoral lead over Labor has slipped, in a sign the post-election honeymoon for the government has ended amid growing concerns over the economy and a clash over climate change.

    An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian shows the Coalition has lost its post-election gains but is still dominating, with a 51-49 two-party-preferred lead over Labor.

    Scott Morrison has extended his lead over Anthony Albanese as preferred prime minister while weathering a hit to his personal approval ratings.

    Breaking, from the Oz

  92. Cohenite:

    Try pedophrasty.

    Bloody nouns.
    No wonder I couldn’t find it.

  93. Leigh Lowe

    An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian shows the Coalition has lost its post-election gains but is still dominating, with a 51-49 two-party-preferred lead over Labor.

    Hard to get a read on this.
    Newspoll says 51:49.
    My ouija board says 53:47, but the Tarot cards say 52:48.

  94. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Oh yeah sure.

    Miners all look like this.

    https://www.fmgl.com.au/IRM/content/Home.htm

  95. feelthebern

    Trump wanting to buy Greenland means he’s read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy.

  96. C.L.

    Brennan is a traitor, for sure.
    Good stuff from the Gork.

  97. feelthebern

    Eddie Bravo & Alex Jones.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZD1Lm1fOIU

    Geez I’m laughing hard at this.

  98. mh

    Newspoll….🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    #3134794, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    Oh yeah sure.

    Miners all look like this.

    That fluoro shirt is too grubby to be seen properly.
    I would insist on immediate replacement in the field.
    Because safety.

  100. mh

    Batya Ungar-Sargon
    @bungarsargon
    Oof. Looks like both Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib shared this awful Carlos Latuff cartoon in Instagram stories yesterday. In 2006, Latuff came in second in Iran’s International Holocaust Cartoon Contest, which is a thing that exists, in case you thought the TL couldn’t get any worse.
    https://twitter.com/bungarsargon/status/1162898365769748480?s=20

  101. feelthebern

    Trump wanting to buy Greenland means he’s read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy.

    Funny you should say that – I was thinking the same thing when I first saw the story.

  102. Crossie

    feelthebern
    #3134795, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:56 pm
    Trump wanting to buy Greenland means he’s read Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy.

    Or more likely, those advising him have done so. Not that I’m saying Trump doesn’t read but there are just so many hours in the day for presidenting and tweeting.

  103. Zyconoclast

    It’s called ‘pedophagy’,

    Wasn’t Kevin Spacey was accused of p3d0faggy?

  104. Des Deskperson
    #3134781, posted on August 18, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    +1

  105. egg_

    Q&A Abo fest tomorrow night.

    The Indigenous Voice
    A special look at the case for Constitutional Recognition and an Indigenous voice to parliament. Tony Jones is joined by Noel Pearson, Linda Burney, Julian Leeser, Jacinta Price and Patricia Turner.

  106. Steve trickler

    More from the paradise we know as Venezuela.



  107. egg_

    a shoddy self-righteousness detached from any sense of reality or responsibility

    Obummer was The One – Ardern’s The One Trick Pony?

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Indigenous Voice
    A special look at the case for Constitutional Recognition and an Indigenous voice to parliament. Tony Jones is joined by Noel Pearson, Linda Burney, Julian Leeser, Jacinta Price and Patricia Turner.

    Jacinta Price will make a good deal of sense, but put me down for 42 interuptions. I’ll bet good money that Linda Burney spruiks the same old, discredited bullshit about the 1967 referendum..

  109. MatrixTransform

    After all…pooing is normal

    🧻🧻🧻

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’ll bet good money that Linda Burney spruiks the same old, discredited bullshit about the 1967 referendum..

    I’m getting in early. A bottle of good Scotch to any one Cat, who can tweet or twitter Linda Burney tomorrow, to ask her, if she stands by her opening speech in Parliament, that she grew up under the “Flora and Fauna Act, before the 1967 referendum. Doomlord, can you hold the coats here?

  111. MatrixTransform

    wait for it … relevance to our favourite shit-poster’s gibber from this morning

  112. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #3134807, posted on August 18, 2019 at 10:24 pm

    Q&A Abo fest tomorrow night.

    The Indigenous Voice
    A special look at the case for Constitutional Recognition and an Indigenous voice to parliament. Tony Jones is joined by Noel Pearson, Linda Burney, Julian Leeser, Jacinta Price and Patricia Turner

    Tony : “Our first viewer question is from Ginger Meggs of Brunswick, and it is addressed to Jacinta Price.”
    [Anaemic vegan comes on screen talking through a pound of metal piercings]

    “Why do you insist on denying your 150 million years of aboriginal heritage to support the fascists in the Liberal Party who give aboriginal babies smallpox infected blankets? In short, why are you a traitorous coconut?”

    Tony : “Interesting question. What say you, coconut?”

  113. mh

    Pennsylvania Uber Driver Found Guilty of Raping Intoxicated Passenger

    Ahmed Elgaafary, 27, was convicted Thursday of multiple sexual assault charges, including rape of an unconscious person, sexual assault, and indecent assault.

    Elgaafary, who is an Egyptian national, will be sentenced later on and then will likely be deported to his homeland, according to Chester County District Attorney Tom Hogan.

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/17/pennsylvania-uber-driver-found-guilty-of-raping-intoxicated-passenger/

  114. Knuckle Dragger

    Mike Nolan.

    Never seen him before.

    Haaaaaaaa!

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    Tipping for the weekend: 6/9.

    Handy mid-season, but not now. Before Friday night I was on 117, behind one scrote on 118, two blokes on 120 and two on 121.

    I need these punters to fall over badly this weekend and the next to claim whatever the prize is.

  116. dover_beach

    Hilarious that the ABC is referring to a protest in Portland, Oregon as a clash between ‘far right’ and left-wing groups, namely, Proud Boys and ANTIFA, respectively. What tendentious arseholes.

  117. MatrixTransform

    richmond – brisbane ?

  118. C.L.

    The UK press is now after this pair of idiots big time:

    Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s stay at ‘billionaire’s playground’ resort in Ibiza: The royal couple stayed at Vista Alegre retreat where super-villas cost up to £120,000 a week during holiday for her 38th birthday.

    Meghan Markle and Prince Harry stayed in a billionaire’s playground on their jet-set Ibiza break, where mega villas cost up to £120,000 a week, locals revealed.

    The royal eco-warriors, who took their third private jet in just eight days when they flew into the south of France on Wednesday, stayed at the gorgeous Vista Alegre gated complex of sea-facing mansions earlier this month to celebrate Meghan’s 38th birthday.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    Got both Richmond and Brisbane.

    Missed the Swans on Friday, the Dockers (I know) yesterday and the Dogs today.

    Need some upsets now.

  120. Steve trickler

    It’s a good ride. 😁



  121. C.L.

    When the IRA rubbed him out, he was lamented as an exemplar of British manhood …

    Lord Mountbatten ‘was a homosexual with a lust for young boys’.

    Rumours about Mountbatten’s sexuality have long swirled following his death 40 years ago.

    The royal kept a large group of gay friends, including Noël Coward, Terence Rattigan, Ivor Novello and Tom Driberg, who reportedly referred to him as ‘Mountbottom’.

    Lownie’s new book, to be published on Thursday, contains an interview with Anthony Daly, a rent boy to the rich and famous during the 1970s.

    Daly claims: ‘Tom said Mountbatten had something of a fetish for uniforms — handsome young men in military uniforms (with high boots) and beautiful boys in school uniform.’

    Follow-up to JC’s earlier story link.

  122. Some History

    Gary Coombe, Gillette CEO
    https://imgur.com/PvdSVqA

    He looks familiar… was he in Lord of the Rings?

    https://imgur.com/W3aybdh

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Aleem Dar.

    Cocked up another one. Great take by Paine for no result.

    Pakidork.

  124. C.L.

    However …

    Lownie’s new book, to be published on Thursday, contains an interview with Anthony Daly, a rent boy to the rich and famous during the 1970s.

    A rent boy to the rich and famous. That sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
    The British press doesn’t pause for either breath or recollection.

  125. Lord Mountbatten played for the other team?
    Who’s the next to be outed by someone’s recollections from when they were a wee lad?
    Winston Churchill?
    Edmund Hillary?
    Biggles?

  126. Who’s the next to be outed by someone’s recollections from when they were a wee lad?
    Winston Churchill?
    Edmund Hillary?
    Biggles?

    Kenny Everett?

  127. Steve trickler

    The Lady In White.



  128. Knuckle Dragger

    I was bitching about this the other day, but this (paywalled) Currant Bun effort is about coppers getting a smack in the chops now and then.

    ‘First Constable Ashley Hall, 29, was left shaken after being punched by a man during an arrest in Dandenong in March.

    “I never expected I would be hit in the face as a police officer, but particularly as a female,” she said.’

    Some issues here. First, if you’re out and about doing your job, ie locking shitmen up, of course at some point you’re going to get punched in the face. At the very least. And it’s going to keep happening unless you unload, at a minimum, five times the punishment you wear. And if you can’t or won’t do that you have no business proclaiming yourself a protector of others.

    Second, in this day and age of equallideee, Toots, get used to shitrags not caring what gender you are, so fuck off back to your embroidery.

    Jesus Christ this sort of thing enrages me.

  129. John Constantine

    Along with Mountbatten, the ira murdered two kids and an eighty year old lady in that bomb, then blew up eighteen tommies as well.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/from-the-archive-blog/2015/may/19/mountbatten-lord-prince-charles-ira-1979

    Prince Charles aint much, but shaking gerry adams hand for the greater good of the peace process was something not everybody could have done.

  130. Mark A

    John Constantine
    #3134838, posted on August 19, 2019 at 12:21 am

    Along with Mountbatten, the ira murdered two kids and an eighty year old lady in that bomb, then blew up eighteen tommies as well.
    Prince Charles aint much, but shaking gerry adams hand for the greater good of the peace process was something not everybody could have done.

    Who knows?
    With Mountbatten alive and a role model he (prince Charles) could’ve turned out different.

    As to the handshake, in politics you do deals with the devil and hope.

  131. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3134837, posted on August 19, 2019 at 12:10 am

    Second, in this day and age of equallideee, Toots, get used to shitrags not caring what gender you are, so fuck off back to your embroidery.

    Jesus Christ this sort of thing enrages me.

    And us ordinary smucks too, but what can we do about it?

  132. John Constantine

    https://7news.com.au/politics/world-politics/china-ups-the-ante-over-hong-kong-protests-and-us-australia-alliance-c-387062

    “We also call on our neighbours, our neighbouring countries, to exercise prudence and not to allow a US deployment of its intermediate-range missiles on (their) territory,” Fu said, naming Australia, Japan and South Korea as the neighbours he was referring to.

    “That would not serve the national security interest of these countries,” he added.

    The chicoms peoples liberation army build military bases on the australian antarctic territory, the peoples liberation army buys the port of Darwin, the peoples liberation army buys melbournes security camera network, then buys victorias andrews government with OBOR loanshark finance.

    Then lectures australias quisling craven kleptocracy not to do anything they will regret.

    I just want to sell my wool to anywhere else that will scour it and mill it except the Tyrant’s slave labour factories.

    Comrades.

  133. DrBeauGan

    I told about last night’s dinner with Maria and how we traded our favourite music rather unsuccessfully.

    Then she broke my heart. She shyly showed me her treasure chest. It was a leather case, about 40 cm by 30 cm by 10, with two combination locks. Inside was her collection of treasures. There was a paper back book on psychology in Spanish which would be an introduction to a university course in the subject. A small fraction had been read. There was a screwdriver, an adjustable spanner, a set of spanner heads in a plastic tool box and a few odds and ends. She asked me how much it was worth. In Cuba I have no idea, in Australia, it was junk.

    So she’s got one book in her apartment. I’ve got thousands. She treasures some tools that I keep on top of the fridge. And her furniture has bits falling off. Moreover it was full of houseflies because fly-spray is unknown in Cuba.

    It was saved from squalor by being scrupulously clean though not very tidy.

    She brings out my protective instincts, although she is trying to elicit lust. Like dancing in her knickers while she does the cooking. I can’t help thinking of her bleak future and that of her daughter. It moves me more than any amount of dancing.

  134. Steve trickler

    Females at their finest. Stunning to watch.



  135. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3134843, posted on August 19, 2019 at 1:10 am

    She brings out my protective instincts, although she is trying to elicit lust. Like dancing in her knickers while she does the cooking. I can’t help thinking of her bleak future and that of her daughter. It moves me more than any amount of dancing.

    Steady on Dr.
    Not saying it it but could be change of tactic, a ruse to achieve what lust couldn’t.
    You can’t save the world, even one bit at a time.

  136. JC

    This is real. It’s a comment I found in a WSJ piece about the problems the dept store Nordstrom’s is experiencing.

    rod rice
    I remember the good old days, not very long ago, when I would buy $2k Italian suits at Nordstroms. Then to my dismay, Trump was elected. When I learned that Nordstroms was selling Trump branded products, I contacted them to let them know I was a customer and suggested that they reconsider their partnership with the Trumps. They refused in a brief but flippant email response. so I took my money elsewhere and will probably never go back. Trump will be gone some day but I will never forget the way Nordstroms made me feel.

  137. DrBeauGan

    Steady on Dr.
    Not saying it it but could be change of tactic, a ruse to achieve what lust couldn’t.
    You can’t save the world, even one bit at a time.

    I considered the possibility, Mark, but she’s not exactly the subtle type. She wants me to like her, not to pity her. She’s not the victim type, quite the opposite. I don’t think that the possibility that I might pity her crossed her mind. She’s got Cuban street smarts and sees herself as naturally being in control. I saw her pushing her boyfriend around. Imperious was the word, she was smarter than him and knew it.

    I can’t change the world or even Cuba in any substantive way, but I’d like to do what I can for basically decent people who’ve had a raw deal. And that certainly includes Maria. And a lot of other Cubans of course. If I can get a business running selling things to shops, I’d hire her to do some selling. She’d be good at it. She can certainly bullshit.

    She’d like to be a cook, and she’s good at it but too slow. But if she can organise a good dinner, which takes scheduling skills, she could make a lot more money doing sales work. I wouldn’t trust her to do any management, but I haven’t met a Cuban I would. Happy but not organised in their thinking.

  138. Steve trickler

    The bloke in the sun glasses is a dickhead. Piss weak drop kick.



  139. Mark A

    I bet not many know what ZIP stands for/

    Did You Know?

    ZIP codes, or Zone Improvement Plan codes, were introduced to the U.S. mail system in 1963 and were expanded to the ZIP+4 system in 1983.

  140. Tom

    Paul Zanetti gets the Monday gig in the Paywallian again.

  141. Tom

    … but Zanetti”s regular “Daily Dose” is a corker.

  142. DrBeauGan

    The bloke in the sun glasses is a dickhead. Piss weak drop kick.

    He was complaining that Trump is dividing the nation while being the one who refused to talk to republicans. But you can’t expect consistency from lefties.

  143. Tom

    ScoMo just pulled an election victory out of his arse, but that’s not the kind of feelz leftards like David Rowe demand.

  144. Tom

    Hahaha. Trump just pressed a button called Greenland and leftards like Morten Morland (London Times) all bayed in unison.

  145. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom.

    It’s quarter to three on Sunday afternoon here. I’m not sure if it’s too late for a siesta

  146. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3134864, posted on August 19, 2019 at 4:46 am

    Thanks Tom.

    It’s quarter to three on Sunday afternoon here. I’m not sure if it’s too late for a siesta

    Never too early or too late.

  147. feelthebern

    LOL.
    When one of the most left wing crowds you’ll ever meet takes the piss out of CNN.

  148. Tom

    ScoMo is doing something right: the gotcha merchants at Their ABC are grizzling that the hated Tories have stopped supplying cannon fodder for their customary humiliation on Q&A:

    Scott Morrison’s edict to his ministers to “keep politics off the front page” has had a big impact on Coalition appearances on the show that the PM has dodged for seven years: the ABC’s Q&A.

    It’s three months (or 14 Q&As) since the federal election, and in that period just two Coalition ministers have appeared on the ABC’s flagship panel show: Population Minister Alan Tudge and Education Minister Dan Tehan. By contrast, nine Labor shadow ministers have bombarded Q&A since the election, with talent including heavyweights such as opposition Treasury spokesman Jim Chalmers, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and legal affairs spokesman Mark Dreyfus.

    Q&A host Tony “ToJo” Jones concedes to Diary that the program has had “difficulties” in getting Coalition ministers on the show since the election. He puts this down to them avoiding ¬“unnecessary risks” and “limiting the issues around public debates involving their senior colleagues”.

    But Jones would like more ¬Coalition frontbenchers to come back on to Q&A — hopefully -before he heads to China at year’s end with his wife, Sarah Ferguson. But he cuts the government some slack: “It’s not hugely surprising that a new government feeling its way is trying to control the agenda very cautiously, and I hope over time they have the confidence to participate in a public debate.”

    Meanwhile, Jones keeps aiming high. He has renewed the quest for his own personal Holy Grail: getting ScoMo on Q&A. His pitch is seductive: “He (Morrison) has had the most extraordinary success in the election campaign and it’s largely down to his own efforts. With his ability to carry an argument, he would do very well in (the Q&A) forum. It will give the people a better chance to know their PM.”

    Such a great nickname: ToJo. We haven’t heard that applied to our fascist enemy since WW2.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    Mark A, oh-dark-thirty;

    ‘And us ordinary smucks too, but what can we do about it?’

    I went back and had another look at the article. The pic was of a fresh-faced First Constable Ashley wearing her load-bearing vest (phrasing), her hair done up in a ponytail and flicked back across her shoulder and her hands positioned so you could see her manicured and polished fingernails.

    This is both an advertisement for girls playing dress-ups and a screamy billboard saying that the ladeees can have it all without the nasty bits that come with the job.

    What the First Constable Ashleys of this world fail to realise (but should have been taught, another story) is that 99% of crooks are a combination of active fuckstick and no-hoper. This is why they don’t have jobs. When they’re interrupted doing their favourite thing, ie making the world a worse place for normal people, they don’t want to be arrested.

    So if they think they can get away with it, they’ll try and punch their way out. Surprising the likes of First Constable Ashley, who clearly never dreamed that working in Sunshine* and Dandenong would result in dickheads punching you.

    This is why six foot two, 95kg+ coppers don’t get in nearly as many punch ons as five foot eight scrawny bloke coppers, or five foot three fat-arsed mouthy chick cops. They use their presence and demeanour to dissuade crooks from trying to punch them, and intimidate them into thinking they’ll get the Judge Dredd treatment if they do.**

    What to do? Dunno. At some point this circle of idiocy will be broken by a completely avoidable tragedy caused by ladeeees living the dream that they can have it all without the nasty, untidy bits. There was the very recent case in Pomland where a bloke copper was attacked by several blade-wielding thugs and the CCTV cameras caught his lady offside standing at the back doing nothing to stop it.

    Rage against the machine.

    *Mate of mine worked at Sunshine in the late nineties. He reckons every night was like Fight Night on Fox.

    **According to another mate who’s had four hours’ sleep and not enough coffee, and who is almost out of smokes.

  150. rickw

    Perfect timing! After Tom but before numbers!

    Thanks Tom!

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Very welcome new for crikkit fans across the globe.

    D. Warner. Out for 5 in the second innings.

    Ashes 2019 scorecard – four innings, 15 runs, average 3.75.

  152. Mater

    There was the very recent case in Pomland where a bloke copper was attacked by several blade-wielding thugs and the CCTV cameras caught his lady offside standing at the back doing nothing to stop it.

    There was a recent similar incident down here. Whilst the event may have made the news, the exact circumstances are kept very quiet. Suffice to say a bloke got badly hurt because his offsider lost the run of herself when things went sideways.

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    Happens a lot, Mater. Allegedly and apparently.

    Tales of this are (apparently) legion, and my friend says he’s seen it first hand when mid-fracas, Ms Constable This Was Not In The Brochure dived back into the divisional van and locked the doors from the inside leaving a youngish constable with a penis to explain a situation with three ne’er-do-wells with his lefts and rights.

    Good guy wins. Two villains on the deck. One sprinting down the street. Sergeant arrives in company sedan. Penis-bearer explains shit state of affairs to Sergeant. Sergeant takes lady cop away on sedan. Another van arrives. Sorted.

    Lady copper is never allowed to work the van again. Shortly after, transferred to Asian ‘liaison office’. In all likelihood is now an Assistant Commissioner somewhere.

    Allegedly.

  154. 1735099

    Today’s First Dog .
    That popping sound is the head explosions.

  155. Mark A

    I agree with Struth.
    Libertarianism is a crock, there has to be a time when you say enough is enough.

  156. 1735099

    Australia warned to divert Middle East military operations to counter China’s rise in Indo-Pacific

    There are echoes of World War Two in this scenario

    From the link -.

    On 17 February 1942, two days after the fall of Singapore, the Pacific War Council (the inter-governmental body controlling the Allied war effort in the Pacific) met. Earle Page, Australia’s representative, reported to Curtin that: ‘The Australian Government should be asked to agree that the Seventh Australian Division already on the water should go to the most urgent spot at the moment, which is Burma’.
    Curtin replied the next day: ‘Government has decided that it cannot agree to the proposal that the 7th AIF Division should be diverted to Burma’. This led to furious communications between London and Canberra with Curtin emphatically stating on 22 February 1942 that the troops should immediately return to Australia. Amazingly, Churchill then gave instructions to the British Admiralty, who were transporting the Australian division, to change the course of the troopships and sail for the Burmese capital, Rangoon.Curtin and his war cabinet were shocked and enraged; Churchill had gone too far. Curtin replied to Churchill the following day, demanding that the soldiers be returned to Australia immediately. Churchill conceded, the ships changed course again and continued on to Australia. This was a time of intense stress for Curtin as the troop ships were vulnerable to Japanese attack. However, the soldiers arrived safely in Adelaide on 23 and 27 March 1942.
    Curtin’s decision that the Australian troops should be returned home proved correct. The Australian soldiers would have arrived in Rangoon on 26 February 1942, by which time the Japanese were already in position to take the city.

    Somehow, I don’t see Morrison as having that amount of backbone…..

  157. Anthony

    Just learned from the Age that Australia ‘clings’ on for a draw. Gee, that must have been close. Just remind me, though, how many times must a side dismiss the other side to win a test?

  158. Top Ender

    DEFENCE WARNING MILITARY STRENGTH MUST BE BOOSTED IN NORTH AS U.S. ‘PRIMACY’ FADES

    Australia has been warned it must urgently test its ability to defend its northern borders, amid aggressive expansion of Chinese defence and strategic interests in the Indo-Pacific and the US losing its “military primacy” in the region.

    The Australian Strategic Policy Institute and United States Studies Centre will sound a warning today on the lack of personnel and hardware deployment in northern Australia and the need to increase munition and fuel stockpiles, with security experts warning of “serious threats emerging with disconcerting rapidity”.

    An ASPI report to be released today calls for a simulated “stress test” involving defence, intelligence and border security agencies to test the nation’s capacity to defend itself against sudden threats and highlights a “widening gap” between strategic policy and the country’s military assets in northern Australia.

    ASPI warns of a shortfall in military personnel and strategic deployment north of the 26th parallel south — with Australian Defence Force staff numbers at an 11-year low in the Northern Territory — and calls for a “single scalable defence and national security ecosystem”.

    Oz print edition

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    The entirety of the ADF, including all manner of pogos and equally-valued diversity consultants is approximately equal to one full-strength division.

    Right now the PLA has over 2,000,000 of its Chinkies in active military service, and that’s only the Army, and that’s only the ones we know about.

    Every single Australian serving overseas could be recalled and it wouldn’t make an iota of difference, apart from empty flag-waving.

  160. egg_

    ABC TV Breakfast:
    Michael Rowland to Rob Sitch: The number of Ron Burgundy’s in Newsrooms is increasing.

  161. egg_

    ABC TV Breakfast:
    Talking to Frydemburgers – take The Parrot orff the Air for abusing the horse wymminses leader – a mysognistic habit he has.

  162. Mater

    Every single Australian serving overseas could be recalled and it wouldn’t make an iota of difference, apart from empty flag-waving.

    I’d go as far as saying that our entire military could be tied up doing key point defence against any subversives which exist amongst the large number of foreign nationals we have in this country. We have a large country, lots of widely dispersed essential infrastructure, a small military and a population of which 29% was born overseas.

    To cover this obvious problem, we could raise local militia groups and arm them with milk crates!
    What say you, Bob? Internment camps and conscription?

  163. Mark A

    My God that bloke? at the Guardian must have a lot of dirt on the top brass for keeping him on.
    I persisted on reading the lot, can’t cleanse my mind of the dross.
    How can any intelligent being find that mental fart amusing or enlightening is beyond belief.

  164. Entropy

    Was that written by a Hugh White? Why would anyone listen to him?

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    And just like that we find out that biofuels can’t compete with petroleum without refiners being straight-armed by big government:

    Corn Industry Crushed By Shocking Ethanol Decision

    Federal policy requires a certain volume of biofuels to be blended into the nation’s fuel mix. Each year, the EPA decides on the exact levels, and it is a bit of a zero-sum game between ethanol producers and oil refiners. The ethanol industry wants higher blending levels because that expands sales, while refiners want less in order to defray costs.

    But the administration just issued a shocking decision to the corn and ethanol industries. On August 9, the EPA announced its decision on 2018 waiver requests, approving 31 of them while denying six. The decision appears to be an attempt to offer something to both sides, but the biofuels industry was incensed.

    “The Trump Administration’s approval of 31 refinery exemptions from the Renewable Fuel Standard is just devasting news for our industry,” said Iowa Renewable Fuels Association (IRFA) Executive Director Monte Shaw in a press release. “With this action, President Trump has destroyed over a billion gallons of biofuel demand and broken his promise to Iowa voters to protect the [Renewable Fuels Standard].”

    So Trump’s guy gives refineries waivers to allow them to escape the green religious requirements to use ethanol and the corn farmers go waaaaahhhh. Find something else to grow, kiddies, before the Gaia cult finally collapses.

  166. Mark A

    Entropy
    #3134887, posted on August 19, 2019 at 7:26 am

    Was that written by a Hugh White? Why would anyone listen to him?

    They don’t give you a choice, and if you don’t do your own research you wouldn’t know any better.
    That’s how they win.

  167. feelthebern

    If you want to see changes in US foreign policy, all you have to do is follow Richard Grenell on twitter.
    He is the US ambassador to Germany & one of Trump’s loyalist supporters.
    Over the weekend he’s dropped a tweet & like or two about the HK protesters.
    & there has been nothing on Iran for weeks, which is a huge change.

  168. feelthebern

    Hugh White’s “analysis” borders on juvenile.
    Makes me wonder if he has suffered a brain injury.

  169. jupes

    The Australian Strategic Policy Institute and United States Studies Centre will sound a warning today…

    Dunno about the Australian Strategic Policy Institute but the United States Studies Center has zero credibility. They’re the clowns who we pay millions of dollars to make the unanimous prediction that Hillary Clinton would defeat Trump.

    Idiots.

  170. feelthebern

    The Australian Strategic Policy Institute and United States Studies Centre will sound a warning today…

    These guys couldn’t get laid in a brothel.

  171. Mater

    In the Arab case the algebraic factor would take first account of the area to be conquered. A casual calculation indicated perhaps 140,000 square miles. How would the Turks defend all that—no doubt by a trench line across the bottom, if the Arabs were an army attacking with banners displayed…but suppose they were an influence, a thing invulnerable, intangible, without front or back, drifting about like a gas? Armies were like plants, immobile as a whole, firm-rooted, nourished through long stems to the head. The Arabs might be a vapour, blowing where they listed. It seemed that a regular soldier might be helpless without a target. He would own the ground he sat on, and what he could poke his rifle at.

    This eccentric movement acted like a charm. The Arabs did nothing concrete, but their march recalled the Turks (who were almost into Rabegh) all the way back to Medina. There, one half of the Turkish force took up the entrenched position about the city, which it held until after the Armistice. The other half was distributed along the railway to defend it against the Arab threat. For the rest of the war the Turks stood on the defensive and the Arab tribesmen won advantage over advantage till, when peace came, they had taken 35,000 prisoners, killed and wounded and worn out about as many, and occupied 100,000 square miles of the enemy’s territory, at little loss to themselves.

    – T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)

  172. Mater

    “When the hour of crisis comes, remember that 40 selected men can shake the world.”
    —Yasotay (Mongol warlord)

  173. Mark A

    Another silly interruption.

    Old bloke leaning on the fence reminiscing, saying to his wife, “remember Gladys how happy we were 40 years ago?”
    We didn’t know each other then says she.

  174. Entropy

    To be fair, while he is being generous towards the French barracuda, White is generally right that it is the wrong sub for us. He does t take the next step and admit diesel electric subs are the wrong solution for Australia, and of course, hasn’t got over his ALP hate for the capitalist pigs in the US.
    Also, where would the sailors for these 32 underwater coffins come from?

  175. dover_beach

    Incredible in utero surgery between the 18th & 25th week of pregnancy.

    Indeed, congrats to the new parents, and yet the NSW parliament wants to allow their destruction for any reason and none before 23 weeks, and with the permission of two doctors after. BTW, great to see the use of adult stem cells is a raging success.

  176. 132andBush

    1735099

    #3134874, posted on August 19, 2019 at 6:42 am

    Today’s First Dog .
    That popping sound is the head explosions.

    It’s definitely not babies being born.

  177. Mark A

    Have to say I’m getting sick of buying a certain brand of HD, second one to fail in a fortnight, black ones too, if you get my meaning.
    Off to the shop again this morning, plus the joy of reinstalling the system and apps.
    Lucky I have multiple backups for data.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    New secret weapon for aircraft carriers: tanks and APCs.

    Marines Use Armored Vehicle to Defend Navy Ship from Small Boats off Iranian Coast (via Lucianne)

    As sailors and Marines are sailing in more contested waters, the blue-green team is getting creative about how to defend amphibious assault ships from enemy small boats and drones.

    Members of the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit were photographed sailing through the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf this week with a Light Armored Vehicle on the flight deck.

    “I can tell you I watched a MEU commander strap an LAV to the front of a flight deck because it had better sensors than the ship did to find small boats,” Coffman said during an event hosted by the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., last fall.

    Betcha the Iranian boat guys didn’t think they’d have to fight armoured vehicles in the middle of the Persian Gulf.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    Zyconoclast

    #3134829, posted on August 18, 2019 at 11:37 pm

    Lord Mountbatten ‘was a homosexual with a lust for young boys’ claims secret FBI dossier

    Did the dossier mention Wussian hookers and golden showers on Obama’s hotel bed?

  180. mh

    Mitchell Starc must feel unlucky. He can’t get a look in as a bowler, while the batsmen excluding Smith are failing Test after Test.

  181. woolfe

    DrB

    but I’d like to do what I can for basically decent people who’ve had a raw deal

    Isn’t this what socialism is meant to do?

  182. Mark A

    woolfe
    #3134908, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:05 am

    DrB

    but I’d like to do what I can for basically decent people who’ve had a raw deal

    Isn’t this what socialism is meant to do?

    I think he is far too sentimental for his own good. unless he is pulling legs here and in actual fact on the way to Alaska on a cruise ship. (forget Noumea)

  183. Mother Lode

    has had a big impact on Coalition appearances on the show that the PM has dodged for seven years: the ABC’s Q&A.

    Dodged Q&A?

    The implication is that he should appear on it.

    But it is such an awful show. It is just too transparently tilted toward the ABC’s preferred demographic from audience ‘make up’, interruptions, loading of the panel, and the ‘gotchas’ in the audience that usually turn out to be staged.

    And they wonder why someone (and God knows it has taken the Libs years to work it out) would opt not to go on the show.

    The ABC is so lazy that they expect their quarry to obligingly hop into their sights and sit smiling and wait for the ABC to get around to pulling the trigger and blasting them to smithereens.

  184. Entropy

    woolfe
    #3134908, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:05 am
    DrB

    but I’d like to do what I can for basically decent people who’ve had a raw deal

    Isn’t this what socialism is meant to do?

    I think the idea of socialism is to demand the government do stuff so you still get that warm feeling of helping even though you don’t actually do anything yourself. And because you are in charge.

  185. Entropy

    The ABC is so lazy that they expect their quarry to obligingly hop into their sights and sit smiling and wait for the ABC to get around to pulling the trigger and blasting them to smithereens.

    It is a learned behaviour.

  186. lotocoti

    Every single Australian serving overseas could be recalled and it wouldn’t make an iota of difference, apart from empty flag-waving.

    But if you harness Grrl Power …

  187. Gilas

    Apologies if this has already been posted..

    Some nuggets:

    In September 2018, Goldsmiths was embroiled in another controversy over far-left philosophy on campus, when the college’s LGBT society was suspended and disaffiliated from the Students’ Union for tweeting an extensive defence of gulags, and why sending a “bigot” to one was a “compassionate” act of socialist love.

    LGBTQ+ Goldsmiths had tweeted the now-long-deleted thread, which began as a diatribe against “terfs” — “trans-exclusionary radical feminists”, or women who do not believe that men who change their gender are women — and said that such people who question transgenderism could benefit from being sent to gulags for up to 10 years for “re-education”.

    Why these lunatical oxygen bandits are not arrested and sent to labour camps in Antartica is one of today’s great mysteries.

  188. Percy Popinjay

    Hugh White is the Paul Kelly of military strategy analysis.

    Wrong about everything, all the time. Again.

  189. Val Majkus

    Dr BG this was on 7/2 last night … Chris Tarrant: Extreme Railway Journeys – Episode 4 Slow Train to Guantanamo Bay … can only find the preview for you https://youtu.be/0vIyS4aGkOE
    It was great

  190. notafan

    Biofuel is a green dream that had eventually has to end.

    Iowa farmers are very good at growing corn for feedstock before all that, I’m sure if the price is right they can expand that market.

  191. Percy Popinjay

    said that such people who question transgenderism could benefit from being sent to gulags for up to 10 years for “re-education”

    Anyone up for ten years in a labore camp with Germs Greer?

    No, I thought not. Straights and TERFs – you will be “accepting” of chicks with dicks, or else.

  192. Val Majkus

    https://youtu.be/Dl0xylsMM88 sorry that link was incorrect; think this is the right one

  193. Eyrie

    “Every single Australian serving overseas could be recalled and it wouldn’t make an iota of difference, apart from empty flag-waving.”

    We are sooooo fvcked.

  194. Val Majkus

    there’s a link to the full episode here https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/dtcgfk/chris-tarrant-extreme-railway-journeys–s2-e4-chris-tarrant-extreme-railway-journeys-slow-train-to-guantanamo-bay/

    He’s travelling from Havana to Guantanamo Bay but discovers that crossing Cuba by rail is “about as easy as crossing a Chihuahua with a kangaroo”.

    At times he resorts to buses, taxis and state-sponsored hitch-hiking, grumbling about the discomfort on each leg, but putting up with it. (After one seven-hour stint in a dirty carriage, he quips, “I shall miss that old train lavatory. It smelt like somebody else already had.”)

    But he does just enough to keep us informed about Cuba’s past, including the Bay of Pigs and Hershey bars. And as he finally reaches Guantanamo, he sings, of course, Guantanamera.

  195. DrBeauGan

    When the hour of crisis comes, remember that 40 selected men can shake the world.”
    —Yasotay (Mongol warlord)

    There aren’t forty good Çats yet. Only about a dozen at most.

  196. Mark A

    Val Majkus
    #3134923, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:26 am

    Is this a tease?
    Every link leads to somewhere else.

  197. DrBeauGan

    I think he is far too sentimental for his own good. unless he is pulling legs here and in actual fact on the way to Alaska on a cruise ship. (forget Noumea)

    You aren’t going to believe this, but Maria is a believer in Voodoo. Some of the bizarre decor was from that source. She took it seriously three years ago when it saved her from cancer, she says.

    I wonder if she knows how to turn people into zombies. It would be more useful to be able to turn zombies back into human beings these days. I shall practise on numbers if Maria can give me instructions.

    Thanks Val for the links. It sounds fairly hellish. I don’t feel much tempted.

  198. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3134928, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:48 am

    Dr, you tempt me to go to Cuba.
    I might, but I must say it’s a slim chance, been to too many sh..oles before.
    Besides, I have no interest in romantic adventures. Not allowed.

  199. John Constantine

    Once the ethanol kettle vats are built, that capital is sunk.

    If the second owner can’t make a dollar after the capital is written down, the original investment was a misallocation.

    Australia would be better off building ethanol plants for a strategic fuel reserve than building desal plants and windmills for electric cars.

  200. Percy Popinjay

    It’s official – Dom Pair o’ teats will not be the next NSW premier – Pedro FitzSimians opines:

    I am, reliably, informed, that, right now, the, cab, at the front, of the rank, just, outside Parliament House, on Macquarie Street, has, Treasurer Dominic Perrottet’s, name, on it and there, are, plenty, of his fellow parliamentarians, climbing, on board, for, the ride.

    From the Silly Moaning Hemorrhoid.

  201. Eyrie

    “Australia would be better off building ethanol plants for a strategic fuel reserve than building desal plants and windmills for electric cars.”

    We’d be better off by encouraging local oil exploration including fracking and building more oil refineries.

  202. Mark A

    John Constantine
    #3134931, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:56 am

    Australia would be better off building ethanol plants for a strategic fuel reserve than building desal plants and windmills for electric cars.

    That would need clear thinking and brains.
    Therefor, not a chance

  203. Eyrie

    To generate any crops for turning into ethanol we need diesel. Don’t worry about the ethanol crap, just use the diesel.

  204. egg_

    Such a great nickname: ToJo. We haven’t heard that applied to our fascist enemy since WW2.

    Coined by Tim Blair, as usual – when SnowConeTone had Maureen Dowd, “MoDo”, on the Q&A sideshow.

  205. Entropy

    Any defence strategy should be realistic about resources, our vast distances and the inevitable reality that anyone that wanted to do us wrong would travel via routes of maximum inconvenience to us.
    To deal with the range issue of diesel subs, this prat reckons we need 32 of them. The crews of course, would miraculously appear. Build it and they will come.

    A nuclear sub capability, of course, would solve the range issue, but would require closer enmeshment (and crews!) with the US navy. Hugh would like that least of all.

  206. egg_

    Val Majkus
    #3134925, posted on August 19, 2019 at 8:30 am

    Full episode available to view on Daily Motion:
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6w9ffz

  207. Mother Lode

    which began as a diatribe against “terfs” — “trans-exclusionary radical feminists”, or women who do not believe that men who change their gender are women — and said that such people who question transgenderism could benefit from being sent to gulags for up to 10 years for “re-education”.

    The totalitarian instinct to swiftly dispose of problematic ideas by swiftly disposing of the problematic people that hold them is never far beneath the surface.

    Funny thing is that the activists always insist on reminding the rest of us of how unjustly they were treated in just this fashion – the tragedy of simple but naive you gay men being sent to concentration camps and gulags.

    “terfs” — “trans-exclusionary radical feminists”

    And the need to label enemies with code words to flag them as bad. Funny thing is that the feminists who hold to the age-old notion of gender being biological are ‘radical’. Presumably just about everyone since our ancestors banged rocks together was a radical, while those who have in the last decade decided that your gender is whatever you say are the traditionalists.

    These people also, typically, identify as smart.

    I wonder what they think would happen if they decided to identify as a car mechanic next time their car broke down?

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Navy researchers close to confirming WA sailor Norman Douglas Foster as unknown victim of HMAS Sydney sinking

    Thanks for that one, Stackja.

  209. John Constantine

    Coal to liquids.

    Coal gas

    Fracking.

    Electric vehicles.

    All pathways to a strategic independence against blockades of imported fuel.

    Our elites position of nothing to worry about leads us to suspect they have wargamed an outcome where rationing of fuel and curfews preserves the position of the elites and blocks the proles from mobilising to protest about it.

  210. cohenite

    Gutless glad has appointed the gay loon Greenwich to chair a committee on power and energy; Greenwich is anti-coal and pro pixie dust. Our glad is either a traitor or a fucking imbecile.

  211. DrBeauGan

    Dr, you tempt me to go to Cuba.
    I might, but I must say it’s a slim chance, been to too many sh..oles before.
    Besides, I have no interest in romantic adventures. Not allowed.

    It’s interesting. Not dull. Anyone interested should get in touch with Osbel because this apartment is excellent.

    I’ve successfully fought off romance so far. So it’s possible, though you have to be tough. 😀

  212. 1735099

    America has an atrophying force that is not sufficiently ready, equipped or postured for great power competition in the Indo-Pacific — a challenge it is working hard to address.

    This report makes for unsettling reading.
    Combine it with the context that there is a pseudo-isolationist in the White House who has no priority except reelection and we are in deep dodo.
    The Chinese learn from history. They won’t make the same mistakes as the Japanese.
    Australian policy needs rethink, especially taking WW2 history into account (think 1939 – an Imperialist/expansionist Asian power, – check – an unprepared military – check – industrial inadequacies at home – check – and an incompetent government in power).
    A brace of Ohio class nuclear powered subs would help in the short term, together with increasing stockpiles and creating sovereign capabilities in the storage and production of precision munitions, fuel and other materiel necessary for sustained high-end conflict.

  213. stackja

    ROLL OF HONOUR
    Norman Douglas Foster

    Cemetery or Memorial Details Plymouth Naval Memorial, Plymouth, Devon, England, United Kingdom

  214. lotocoti

    We are sooooo fvcked.

    But would we be?
    Imagine you’re running PLA Inc.
    You’ve taken Darwin, with the harbour and airport intact (probably because the High Court was still hearing a challenge to the Environmental Impact Assessment of blowing them, by the Greens).
    So you have local air superiority and you don’t have to hump your POL and won ton over the beach, but not much else.
    And then what?
    Remembering that everywhere is a long way away, through crap terrain and not too many all weather roads.

  215. stackja

    NORMAN DOUGLAS FOSTER

    Rank/Rate/Branch: Engine Room Artificer 4th Class
    Location: NSW AUSTRALIA
    Force: RAN
    Service Number: F2147

    Date of Enlistment: 2-Sep-1939
    Locality Of Enlistment: Maylands, WA
    Home Port/Port Division: Fremantle, WA

    Memorial Location: Panel 61, Column 1

    Date Of Birth: 15-Apr-1913 (died at age 28)
    Place Of Birth: Perth, WA

  216. DrBeauGan

    I’ve successfully fought off romance so far. So it’s possible, though you have to be tough. 😀

    If anyone, on the other hand, actually wants to marry a beautiful Cuban chick, I am sure Maria could fix them up. Possibly several times over.

  217. Top Ender

    It would be more useful to be able to turn zombies back into human beings these days.

    Bridgewater in Tasmania comes to mind.

    It does however have: one of the highest amount of cigarette smokers in Australia.

  218. stackja

    Service Record
    Name FOSTER, NORMAN DOUGLAS
    Service Royal Australian Navy
    Service Number F2147
    Date of Birth 15 Apr 1913
    Place of Birth PERTH, WA
    Date of Enlistment 2 Sep 1939
    Locality on Enlistment MAYLANDS, WA
    Home Port/Port Division FREMANTLE, WA
    Next of Kin FOSTER, EDNA
    Date of Death 20 Nov 1941
    Rank Engine Room Artificer 4th Class
    Posting on Death HMAS Sydney
    WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
    Prisoner of War No
    Roll of Honour Unknown

  219. JC

    Lol

    Inaugural All-Women Sporting Event in Albany Struggles to Draw Fans
    Aurora Games highlighting female athletes world-wide see soft early ticket sales as organizers push to get word out

    I’m still scratching my head trying to figure out why.

  220. Dr Fred Lenin

    Antifa meets the Green Berets love to see that. Just looked through Breitbart,there has been an epidemic of leftist insanity in the USA, seems to me the country needs a Pinochet for a few years to sort things out , ,complete with skydiving lessons without parachutes ,you dont hear of much nonsense in Chile these days ,do you he cured the socialist fascist disease ,sometimes to save a life you have to remove the cancer by surgery .

  221. calli

    Talking heads on Seven giggling behind their hands at the thought of “purchasing” Greenland.

    Clearly haven’t a clue about US history.

  222. JC

    Hey stack

    What’s the road accident report for Wyoming?

  223. egg_

    On 17 February 1942, two days after the fall of Singapore, the Pacific War Council (the inter-governmental body controlling the Allied war effort in the Pacific) met. Earle Page, Australia’s representative, reported to Curtin

    Sir Earle Christmas Grafton Page, GCMG, CH (8 August 1880 – 20 December 1961) was an Australian politician who served as the 11th Prime Minister of Australia, holding office for 19 days after the death of Joseph Lyons in 1939. He was the leader of the Country Party from 1921 to 1939, and was the most influential figure in its early years.

    Page was born in Grafton, New South Wales. He entered the University of Sydney at the age of 15, and completed a degree in medicine at the age of 21. After completing his residency at Sydney’s Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, he moved back to Grafton and opened a private hospital. He soon became involved in local politics, and in 1915 purchased a part-share in The Daily Examiner, a local newspaper. He also briefly served as a military surgeon during World War I. Page gained prominence as an advocate of various development schemes for the Northern Rivers region, especially those involving hydroelectricity. He also helped found a movement for New England statehood.

  224. stackja

    JC posted about itself ‘I’m boring and not very nice. Just forget about me.’

  225. Johno

    Meanwhile, the New York Post reports that Epstein was able to buy two pairs of small women’s panties from a jail shop while serving time for sex offences, according to bombshell new documents.

    OK, how does this happen? Was it a unisex prison for sex offenders?

    Please explain.

  226. John Constantine

    Ethanol Kettles work for a strategic fuel reserve for Australia, as if a blockade cuts fuel imports, it can also cut grain exports.

    Resulting in empty fuel tanks and nowhere to store the next grain harvest because the last one hasn’t been exported. Strategically, ethanol kettles solve both blockade problems.

    Also, we see the chicom Tyrant has just crushed the wool market overnight by squeezing with the strength of his monopoly buying power. [monopsony]

    Should the Tyrant squeeze the feed grain market which is just as vunerable [not needing to feed the dead pigs] then the price of the feedstock slumps.

    Should do a thread on it.

  227. 1735099

    Earle Page – the anglophile who took Churchill’s side against Curtin.

  228. C.L.

    Inaugural All-Women Sporting Event in Albany Struggles to Draw Fans
    ————
    I’m still scratching my head trying to figure out why.

    Pretty simple solution: include jelly wrestling, lingerie football and a topless canteen.

  229. DrBeauGan

    It would be more useful to be able to turn zombies back into human beings these days.

    Bridgewater in Tasmania comes to mind.

    It does however have: one of the highest amount of cigarette smokers in Australia.

    Hmm. How do they score on neuroticism? Boganism doesn’t go well with neuroticism.

    I much prefer the bogans.

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