Tuesday Forum: September 24, 2019

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  1. Herodotus

    The Thunberg Thunderdome, aka the UN, runs true to form as a show that has passed its use-by date.

  2. Diogenes

    ‘allo ‘allo
    Wots going on ‘ere

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morning to all.

  4. egg_

    +4 Cardigans

    One for every season.

  5. Empire 5:5

    In another instance, he said, Ukrainian authorities gathered evidence that money paid to an American Democrat allegedly was hidden by Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) during the 2016 election under pressure from U.S. officials. “In the course of this investigation, we found that there was a situation during which influence was exerted on the NABU, so that the name of [the American] would not be mentioned,” he said.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats

  6. Carpe Jugulum

    Good morning, top Ten

    Woo Hoo 👍😁

  7. egg_

    the UN, runs true to form as a show that has passed its use-by date.

    AKA the Untidy Nations.
    Any others?

  8. egg_

    Their EU Fascist tot dictates to the UN despots.
    All’s well, situation normal, no cause for alarm.

  9. Roger

    This is peak hysteria. They’ve nowhere to go after this point.

    How about alarmists start arresting deniers. This is commie/fascism 101. We’ve got a long way to go yet.

    I’m strangely optimistic today. That might happen in Germany or Kalifornia but not here.

  10. John Constantine

    If this looks like peak Fierce hysteria, wait for next month.

  11. C.L.

    Ahahahahahaha.
    Trump pictured at climate summit.

  12. Atoms for Peace

    So, what were Greta’s dreams and plans ? Good chance she will live until 80 plus, so plenty of time to get back on track

  13. None

    Tonga to fight for Folau

    Tongan officials have legal advice that the NRL is powerless to prevent them selecting Israel Folau.

    1 HOUR AGO  By BRENT READ, DENNIS SHANAHAN

    Haha ha. Good.

  14. mh

    Ahahahahahaha.
    Trump pictured at climate summit.

    Misogyny confirmed!

  15. Mother Lode

    Ahahahahahaha.
    Trump pictured at climate summit.

    Gillard was there?

  16. egg_

    That might happen in Germany or Kalifornia

    Funny how the Krauts defrauded the US EPA – likely did the same with their own emissions testing (how they perfected it?).

  17. John Constantine

    Currently, the cheapest way to get water from the Pacific side of the great dividing range out to the droughted inland is to run it through the hydroelectric generators of the Snowy scheme, then sell it into the existing irrigation districts.

    Turn on the tap and make a thousand dollars a megaliter.

    Revolutionary rewilding theory says the dams must be dynamited and rural proles cleared out into chicom billionaire property Landsharks dogbox Ponxi apartment barracks.

    Their left will become Quite Fierce as they demand this, and Don’t You Dare mention hormones.

    Comrades.

  18. None

    I am convinced Malka Leifer is a male.

  19. Roger

    “You stole my childhood!”

    The Swedish teenager is not some science prodigy who graduated young from some Ivy League school with an advanced agree in physics or anything like that. Rather, the daughter (and granddaughter) of famous actors and opera singers suffers from Asperger’s syndrome, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and selective mutism. I’m no medical professional, but these things might have been brought on when (according to public sources), starting at the age of eight, Thunberg was subjected to such a barrage of climate panic that she eventually became depressed and lethargic, and also developed an eating disorder.

    RTWT

    Poor Greta (truly); but it wasn’t world leaders who did that, it was her own parents and an irresponsible media.

  20. None

    “Pol tot angry. ”

    Cohenite wins the interwebs today.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I always get caught on the thread changeover. 🙁
    Some repost their comments again. I generally don’t. Careful readers can always check the last page of the old thread if continuity seems important.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sad for Greta. A very disturbed teen, needing professional help. Stage struck parents are a large part of the problem.

  23. C.L.

    selective mutism

    Is that what they’re calling adolescent sulking now?

  24. egg_

    “Pol tot angry. ”

    Does a fish diet cause constipation?
    Old Swedes/film noir always look pissed off.

  25. stackja

    Frail Ivan Milat returns to hospital for chemotherapy treatment
    Janet Fife-Yeomans, The Daily Telegraph
    September 23, 2019 4:28pm
    Subscriber only

    Serial killer Ivan Milat ditched his wheelchair to walk in and out of Sydney’s Prince of Wales Hospital this morning for his regular chemotherapy treatment.

    Milat, 74, is clinging to life and looks frail after being diagnosed with terminal oesophagus and stomach cancer in May.

    Cost to taxpayers?

  26. C.L.

    “That’s my ask …”

    Well turn around and give us a look.

    “If we really want to have meaningful change, what I think is most inspiring would be if everybody other than Raheem Sterling and [Kalidou] Koulibaly, if they were as outraged about racism as they were,” Rapinoe said.

    “If everybody was as outraged about homophobia as the LGBTQ players, if everybody was as outraged about the lack of equal pay and investment in the women’s game other than just women, that would be the most inspiring thing to me.

    That’s my ask of everybody. As professional footballers … we have so much success, we have incredible platforms, I ask everybody here to lend your platform, to lift people up to use this beautiful game to change the world for better.”

    Megan Rapinoe urges players to lead social change after winning FIFA Best award.

  27. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Funny how some days one wakes up optimistic and other days not so much. Not necessarily related either to what you know the day has in store for you. I find wild optimism sometimes arises on the most challenging of days and a gloomy pessimism can descend when the morning feet touch the bedside floor even if the day holds guaranteed pleasures. Mostly though I manage a pretty balanced outlook. Dancing keeps me balanced. You develop balance as a habit of body and the mind follows in agreement. My theory and I’m sticking to it. Works for me. 🙂

  28. Black Ball

    I am not sad for Greta.

    It isn’t just Greta we should be worried about. As struth rightfully points out, it is the dominance of left leaning bureaucrats in our education system that bear responsibility for the shit we see now. One only need look at the climate protests on Friday. One would hope this cancer can be treated.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    MAGA!

    China buys 10 boatloads of US soybeans after mid-level trade talks

    Chinese companies imported roughly 10 boatloads of soybeans from American farmers on Monday following mid-level trade talks, Reuters reported.

    The Chinese seem to be valiantly trying not to lose face whilst somehow feeding their people. Tough equation to solve. Noteworthy too that (afaik) most of the soybeans hitherto have been used for pig feed, which is getting ever mooter as the pig herd gets ever smaller.

    Meanwhile the bug is growing legs:

    South Korea confirms new cases of African swine fever

    SEOUL, Sept 23 (Reuters) – South Korea has confirmed new cases of African swine fever at hog farms in cities near the capital Seoul after the country’s first outbreak of the deadly virus last week, the agriculture ministry said on Monday. … Since the first outbreak, over 15,000 pigs had been culled, according to agriculture ministry data, 0.1% of the country’s pig population of more than 12 million pigs.

    Not good.

  30. John Constantine

    In a world where all the food ration bars come from vast State controlled nutrient vats, down at the sewrage rebirthing plant, Fierce revolutionary guards like Greta will critique you to judge your access to food, and the medication level of your ration pack.

    Once food comes from vats and goods come from robots and wars fought by drones, what use are billions of proles?.

  31. 1735099

    Dr Dapin, for a Doctor he is, has little first-hand knowledge of Australian society during the 1960’s.
    Why is that a problem?

    There is a school of thought that an outsider often arrives at a better apprehension of historical and social reality than someone who has been embedded in it. Sometimes you need to stand back to better observe.
    Dapin will tell you that his interest in the topic of national service has its origin in his father’s experience as a conscript in the UK. Dapin’s dad also happened to be Joowish.
    He has written about the Joowish experience in the Australian military in his work
    Joowish Anzacs: Joows in the Australian Military.

    He has honed his writing skills to a fine art. He is a great storyteller. I can well and truly see Mark Dapin knocking Pete Fitzsimmons off the top of the tree in the “Christmas stocking filler Mil. Hist. Blockbuster” caper. Dapin also has a far more authentic Australian voice than Fitzsimmons.

    So, on the one hand he has the problem of being an “outsider”, but on the other, he “has a far more authentic Australian voice than Fitzsimmons”. Contradiction?

    If a myth is defined as widely held but false belief or idea. The idea that “every Nasho who served in Vietnam was a volunteer” is not a myth at all, it is merely a misapprehension.

    Call it what you like – it is simply not historical truth. Analyse the statement. “Every” means “without exception”. “Volunteer” (as the dictionary explains) means “a person who freely offers to take part in an enterprise or undertake a task” or “a person who works for an organization without being paid”. Whichever definition is used, the people who were engaged to serve as the result of a ballot were not volunteers.
    They finished up in the army because they were found (according to the letter they all received) to have “a liability to serve”. In no way is that “volunteering”. The volunteers were those who signed up without being “called up”. To maintain that once balloted in they magically became “volunteers” is absurd.

    Most units gave National Servicemen the choice of active service and most volunteered.

    Again, this is an offence against truth and logic. The use of the word “choice” as applied to individuals who were in the army not because they volunteered, but because of their date of birth, is risible.

    Ironically, ‘The National Servicemen’s Association of Australia,’ was formed in Toowoomba in 1987. Their official position then and now is MOST not EVERY. Perhaps Dapin might have avoided the misapprehension simply by visiting their website?

    The actual text used ion the National Service Association’s website is – “Most but not all units gave National Servicemen the choice of active service and most volunteered.”
    To use “most” they would have to maintain that more “volunteered” than didn’t. Apart from the fact that any CO who gave Nashos a choice would have been in breach of the National Service Act 1964, there is absolutely no evidence for the association’s position beyond anecdote. Anecdote is not history. That statement also conveniently ignores how they came to be in the army in the first place.
    One of Dapin’s strengths as an historian is that his research is thorough and forensic. He is also an engaging writer. Those two talents can co-exist.

    “The Nashos who arrived in Vietnam mostly either wanted or accepted their posting. The Australian Army recognised the menace for their men in having to serve with unwilling or disaffected soldiers and was able, because so many nashos wanted to go to Vietnam, to post reluctant soldiers to units in Australia.”
    (MacGibbon.)

    With due respect to MacGibbon, that is opinion, not history. What research did he undertake to arrive at that conclusion? It is a rationalisation of the situation, not an account of history.
    A very simple test could have been applied to determine whether these men were volunteers or not. They could have been asked “Why are you in the army?” If the answer was “My birth date was drawn” – they were not volunteers. If the answer was “I volunteered for Nasho even though my birth date wasn’t drawn” – they were indeed volunteers.
    That test would have eliminated the bulk of Nashos and reveals the sleight of hand in MacGibbon’s account. His use of “accepted” further reveals the weakness in his conclusion. Acceptance, is, after all, one of the stages of grief.

    The Army had a huge pool to choose from. The data from the AAWFA and Dapin’s own research confirm this.

    Which has no bearing at all on whether there were people serving in Vietnam who simply didn’t want to be there. It doesn’t sit well with the ANZAC myth, but it is a fact of history. The only open question is how many – rich pickings for research there.

    The RSM of 7RAR was a fine soldier, Reg Bandy.

    From my memory of the man, couldn’t agree more.

  32. egg_

    If this looks like peak Fierce hysteria, wait for next month.

    Funding for Climageddon research has been wound back and likely with ruinables Globally – no wonder they’re getting shrill and brainwashing the next generation.

  33. Roger

    Does a fish diet cause constipation? Old Swedes/film noir always look pissed off.

    Ever tried lutefisk?

  34. struth

    I am extremely sad for Greta.
    She is a child who has been virtually abused by her parents.
    Her parents are her guardians.
    The responsibility is totally theirs although blame amongst the adults influencing her is widespread.
    But one thing can be sure and is proof this has nothing to do with the climate.
    All her abusers will be from the left …….as are ALL climate hysterics.

    Socialists always brainwash children first.From Adolf to Give me your children Marxism they must get at the children because without this major tactic they could never succeed.We are seeing nothing new.A student of history knows what comes next.The children will be made to “out” their parents and any adult non believer they know.They will be given a licence for violence ( for the planet’s sake) and society will be broken because you have to first destroy what you wish to rebuild into a socialist utopia ( for the Soros elites anyway).This is playbook 101 stuff.

    Socialists always brainwash children first.From Adolf to Give me your children Marxism they must get at the children because without this major tactic they could never succeed.We are seeing nothing new.A student of history knows what comes next.The children will be made to “out” their parents and any adult non believer they know.They will be given a licence for violence ( for the planet’s sake) and society will be broken because you have to first destroy what you wish to rebuild into a socialist utopia ( for the Soros elites anyway).This is playbook 101 stuff.

  35. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The RSM of 7RAR was a fine soldier, Reg Bandy. If anyone had the bottle to front him to plead their reluctance, he would have left them behind. He had choices. Spoiled for choice.

    Reposted from the old thread.

  36. egg_

    Ever tried lutefisk?

    Nah – Dutch uncle loved eels.

  37. calli

    Ahahah! I knew Unchained Melody would do the trick!

    On toasters…I refuse to buy expensive ones.

    As for Miele dishwashers…forgedaboudit. They have far too many dodgy sensors and filters and other useless cr*p designed for disgusting european recycled water.

    Just. Don’t.

  38. Roger

    But I Repeat myself!?

    You ought to get that seen to.

  39. egg_

    what were Greta’s dreams and plans ?

  40. calli

    I feel sorry for Greta.

    But I feel sorrier for my own grandchildren. They will reap the hardship that would be imposed by the UN and their Useful Yoof.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #3165740, posted on September 24, 2019 at 9:38 am
    I am not sad for Greta.”

    Nor am I. I actually find her creepy. She is a true totalitarian.

  42. John Constantine

    If any place can control pig plague, South Korea should be able to.

    If they can’t, it would make you suspect bioterrorism.

    Comrades.

  43. calli

    I was a totalitarian at sixteen too. It was my way or the highway. If I could have sent my parents off to the gulag for being mean, I would have.

    Then I grew up.

  44. struth

    Blackball the education system is openly following global socialist UN agendas in what they teach.
    Every bureaucracy from local councils to welfare and every un needed .org to sport.
    It is a left wing attack.
    The lefties in our country have turned governance over to a foreign power and enthusiastically follow every dictate.
    Lefty Malcum wasn’t going to vacate his seat for anyone but another UN lapdog.
    I know you understand all this but I ask you, how many people understand where and whobthis country’s enemies and traitors truly are.
    It’s not rocket science to work it out and it’s not hidden even though itvis not advertised (media silence)
    The right seem to take a lot of waking up.
    They’re only on average a couple of decades behind.

  45. calli

    bioterrorism

    That had occurred to me too, John. Chilling.

  46. egg_

    I am not sad for Greta.”

    Nor am I. I actually find her creepy. She is a true totalitarian.

    Their Gretabot is from a theatrical family – isn’t politics showbiz for fugly people?

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Three weeks ago:

    Judge orders White House to restore Playboy correspondent’s press pass (3 Sep)

    U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras ordered the White House on Tuesday to immediately give Playboy correspondent Brian Karem his press pass back after it was revoked for 30 days.

    Yep that Judge Rudolph Contreras of the Spygate FISA abuses. Small world, innit? So what does the White House do…

    White House Press Secretary Says Daily Briefings On Hold Because Grandstanding Reporters Trying To ‘Get Famous’ (23 Sep)

    Thwack! Go play somewhere else kiddies, the adults are busy.

  48. Arky

    I can’t believe the global elites actually pulled out a moppet like something out of a 1950s movie casting Hitler youth, including snarling expression and braided blonde hair.

  49. Top Ender

    The problem with today’s Woke generation is they had no exposure to the USSR.

    For me, Solzhenitsyn provided an avenue for investigation of their pernicious regime.

    The present under 30s have no understanding of how universally intolerant but absolutely inefficient the whole concept was.

    Hence: “the only problem with socialism is that it’s never been properly tried.”

  50. Roger

    Stephen King Pens ‘Horrifying’ New Novel In Which Conservatives Get Supreme Court Majority

    “Pennywise, Jack Torrance, Barlow, Randall Flagg—there are so many classic villains that I’ve loved writing,” King said in an interview. “But you know who’s more evil than any of them? Brett Kavanaugh. My work has always focused on the evil humanity is capable of—as well as the strength of the human spirit—and I can’t think of any better way to test the fortitude of my characters than to put them in the dark shadow of a Supreme Court that leans to the right.”

    “This one will keep you up at night,” he added.

    The book will center on the characters of a small town in Maine who are forced to confront the growing evil in the nation as conservatives institute a reign of terror from the Supreme Court bench. “Millions will die,” King said.

    King also confirmed he wrote the 1,700 page book at a relaxing pace in “about three days.”

    LOL. [via the Bee]

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    From TE’s link on the OF:

    ‘“Once again, we are stigmatised and targeted as not being capable or worthy of managing our own affairs,” Mr Paterson told a Senate Committee in Darwin, comprising three Liberal, two Labor and one Greens MP.’

    This, in relation to cashless welfare cards, known in the NT – where it is used throughout – as the Basics Card. You can’t buy grog with it, but you can use it to get a taxi to take you and your cousin-brothers through the bottlo from a park round the corner, and then back to the park for a $9.00 round trip.

    You can buy nappies with it, and Coke to give your toddlers. You can also buy servo chicken wings with it.

    And in almost every roadhouse and suburban corner store (which all have liquor licences, btw) you can rort it if you’re the manager by ‘safekeeping’ the customer’s Basics Card and then writing up grog purchases as chicken soup.

    ‘“Once again, we are stigmatised and targeted as not being capable or worthy of managing our own affairs,” Mr Paterson told a Senate committee’

    With very good reason, Mr Paterson.

  52. dover_beach

    I am extremely sad for Greta.
    She is a child who has been virtually abused by her parents.

    It’s not virtual, Struth. She has actually been mentally abused by her parents. And this has been compounded by the grifting machine that is the professional climate change movement. Truly, what a time to be alive.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    Hahaha!

    I thought that Stephen King book was real.

  54. Slim Cognito

    On reflection, I think saint Greta is only one bad IPCC report away from a drug habit. She is losing it and the pressure will get to her soon.

  55. egg_

    The climatards are trying to get something out of Trump – author of The Art of the Deal?

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    I know everyone’s been trapping off about little mute Scandi girls all morning, but I’ve just seen her ‘outburst’ at the climate summit.

    Now professionally made up and reading from a script, and in a voice exactly the same as every female cast member of Vikings, it was very much a choreographed delivery worthy of an audition for the part of a burglary victim on The Bill*. Snarly squirty voice and all.

    *I can comment with authority as an actor here, having had the leading role in a TV ad for a restaurant and bar once in the mid-90s.

  57. JC

    This is a fucking unreal world we live in. 99.99% is being caused because public sector employees are not brought down to size an shipped out.

    Federal Prosecutors Conducting Criminal Probe of Juul

    Federal prosecutors in California are conducting a criminal probe into e-cigarette maker Juul Labs, according to people familiar with the matter, escalating law-enforcement scrutiny of the startup.2 hours ago

    They’re trying to ban e-cigs but flavored, regular cigs are legal. E-cigs are miles better for you. Perhaps the excise taxing has something to do with this. Everything comes down to money.

  58. JC

    *I can comment with authority as an actor here, having had the leading role in a TV ad for a restaurant and bar once in the mid-90s.

    What’s the ad?

  59. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stephen King sounds like an idiot. Hope his latest book tanks and lives as a monument to woke stupidity.

    Greta is to be pitied as an abused child whose very real personality problems have turned her into a cyborg when they have been manipulated in a toxic and pressured parental environment.

    She does remind of a worst case indoctrinated child from the Hitler Youth. And thus appears as totally creepy. I think this creepiness may even be turning off some of her young acolytes. That’s good. As the marches showed, a lot of them are more into fun than panic. Just as it should be in yoof.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m very sorry to hear Stephen King feels the way he does.

    Massive fan of his early to mid stuff, not so much his later maundering fantasy trilogies. Pet Sematary. Carrie. Christine. It. The Stand. Cujo. The Bachman Books. Misery. And so on. His early short story and/or novella collection was terrifying. Danse Macabre and Night Shift were glorious. His ability to perfect the conversations of and humanise characters still hasn’t been beaten, in my humble view.

    Significantly, he wrote all this stuff by his own admission when he was off his tits on cocaine all day, every day. Now he’s sober he produces the abovementioned turgid crap.

    Somewhere, in there, there’s a lesson for us all.

  61. C.L.

    With all of these young climate girls, the ABC comes across like one of those creepy old lesbian teachers busted for seducing one of her charges …

    ‘How dare you’: Watch Greta Thunberg’s passionate cry for climate action

    Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg delivers a fierce and passionate speech at the United Nations headquarters, accusing world leaders of failing to act on climate change.

    Through to the link proper:

    Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg has captured the world’s attention in a fierce and passionate speech at the United Nations headquarters, accusing world leaders of failing to act on climate change.’

    The Swedish campaigner’s brief address electrified the start of the Climate Action Summit in New York…

    Mr Trump dropped in briefly and listened to one of the speakers. Ms Thunberg stared down the US President when the two crossed paths.

  62. JC

    Shit, I thought the Stephen King Story in the Bee was parody, but it’s actually real.

    It’s actually a form of plagiarism in a way. King is trying to cash in on the success of Handmaid’s Tail.

  63. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Greta appears to be at breaking point.

    Which will be turned into her martyrdom for the cause. Just you watch and see.

  64. cohenite

    On reflection, I think saint Greta is only one bad IPCC report away from a drug habit. She is losing it and the pressure will get to her soon.

    It already has; she is a deeply disturbed autistic:

    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1167075963835953155

  65. C.L.

    The King book is a Bee sting, folks.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s a sad story, JC. Not the ad itself, which was filmed etc etc in Townsville for potential competition to the juggernauts of Langs, Tattersalls, The Exchange and The Criterion, but which still resonates today as a monument to my shocking incompetence in picking up signals thrown my way by women (in this case, my ‘co-star’).

    I think I’ve mentioned it here before some time ago. I haven’t learned a goddamn thing.

  67. TheSemiMentalBloke

    For some reason, Greta reminds me of a young Bindi.

  68. cohenite

    Doctors for pol tot:

    Physicians fool themselves on the climate

    Maurice Newman The Australian September 23, 2019

    Spare a thought for wind farm neighbours who suffer the health effects of audible and inaudible wind turbine noise. Think about how for years they have been trapped in unsaleable properties and told their symptoms were ­imagined or psychosomatic. How, when they turned to the medical profession for help, the Australian Medical Association and the National Health and Medical Research Council claimed they had found no “consistent evidence” of a connection.

    No wonder.

    Despite sufferers around the world increasingly presenting with common symptoms, the health authorities commissioned or completed very little quality ­research. What little research there was, victims argue, was shoddy and biased. Why?

    Was it because health professionals didn’t want to rock the climate change, renewable energy boat? At least, after decades of ­inaction, the World Health ­Organisation finally concedes: “More than a nuisance, excessive noise is a health risk — contributing to cardiovascular diseases.” Pity about the patients who through the years have presented to their local GP with symptoms, only to be turned away on the advice of medical authorities…

  69. JC

    Is it? The idiots here persuaded me otherwise as I thought it was at first.

  70. notafan

    Lol re the King comments

    Babylon bee stings again

  71. Black Ball

    *I can comment with authority as an actor here, having had the leading role in a TV ad for a restaurant and bar req in the mid-90s.

    Did you follow Sir Ian McKellen’s sage words?

  72. notafan

    I’d have thought relaxed 1700 pages in three days was a massive give away

    especially for any authors in residence

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    This is a fucking unreal world we live in. 99.99% is being caused because public sector employees are not brought down to size an shipped out.

    Speaking of which…

    70% Of Wisonsin’s Highest-Earning Public Employees Work For The State University System

    Of the 100 top-earning state employees in Wisconsin in 2018, the vast majority worked for the University of Wisconsin-Madison, as well as a few at UW-Milwaukee, according to an analysis conducted by The College Fix.

    According to a list generated by The Fix using public state employee salary information maintained by the Green Bay Press Gazette and Wisconsin State Journal newspapers, 50 UW-Madison professors and assistant professors made over $300,000 in gross pay in the 2018 school year. Topping the salary list for professors at the public university was economics professor and dean of the department Ananth Seshadri, who made $537,000 in 2018.

    Not many private sector employees would get US$300k.

    This has been the thing in the last 30 odd years. The Left have raised public servant pay to ‘way above the private sector, and have locked out anyone who isn’t in the clique. Like Peter Ridd. Previously the equation was that public sector wukkas got permanent employment and certainty at the cost of lower pay than private sector. These days they get higher pay yet remain unsackable.

    It’ll breakdown eventually as they solidify into a nobility. Then they’ll get to eat cake in the tumbrils.

  74. Anne

    Brilliant Australian Government Commercial. 2mins

    https://youtu.be/9RZSTx9khWw

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    lol, CL. Aunty as a frowsy old lezzo.
    Getting old, she is, and should be pensioned off to a small group of paying supporters who can tickle her up a treat and keep her away from the kiddies.
    Other people’s kids, that is. Sad for the children of the left still in the old lezzo’s ambit though.

    The left. They never ever learn.
    All we can do is try to contain them and limit the damage. There will always be collateral casualties. We need to face that and not waste our pity.

    Bye bye, Greta.

  76. C.L.

    Meanwhile … Joe Biden goes from bad to … bizarre on a daily basis:

  77. stackja

    Greta’s parents could take her to Mayo Clinic while she is in the USA.

    Autism spectrum disorder

    If your child is diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, talk to experts about creating a treatment strategy and build a team of professionals to meet your child’s needs.

    Treatment options may include:

    Behavior and communication therapies. Many programs address the range of social, language and behavioral difficulties associated with autism spectrum disorder. Some programs focus on reducing problem behaviors and teaching new skills. Other programs focus on teaching children how to act in social situations or communicate better with others. Applied behavior analysis (ABA) can help children learn new skills and generalize these skills to multiple situations through a reward-based motivation system.
    Educational therapies. Children with autism spectrum disorder often respond well to highly structured educational programs. Successful programs typically include a team of specialists and a variety of activities to improve social skills, communication and behavior. Preschool children who receive intensive, individualized behavioral interventions often show good progress.
    Family therapies. Parents and other family members can learn how to play and interact with their children in ways that promote social interaction skills, manage problem behaviors, and teach daily living skills and communication.
    Other therapies. Depending on your child’s needs, speech therapy to improve communication skills, occupational therapy to teach activities of daily living, and physical therapy to improve movement and balance may be beneficial. A psychologist can recommend ways to address problem behavior.
    Medications. No medication can improve the core signs of autism spectrum disorder, but specific medications can help control symptoms. For example, certain medications may be prescribed if your child is hyperactive; antipsychotic drugs are sometimes used to treat severe behavioral problems; and antidepressants may be prescribed for anxiety. Keep all health care providers updated on any medications or supplements your child is taking. Some medications and supplements can interact, causing dangerous side effects.
    Managing other medical and mental health conditions
    In addition to autism spectrum disorder, children, teens and adults can also experience:

    Medical health issues. Children with autism spectrum disorder may also have medical issues, such as epilepsy, sleep disorders, limited food preferences or stomach problems. Ask your child’s doctor how to best manage these conditions together.
    Problems with transition to adulthood. Teens and young adults with autism spectrum disorder may have difficulty understanding body changes. Also, social situations become increasingly complex in adolescence, and there may be less tolerance for individual differences. Behavior problems may be challenging during the teen years.
    Other mental health disorders. Teens and adults with autism spectrum disorder often experience other mental health disorders, such as anxiety and depression. Your doctor, mental health professional, and community advocacy and service organizations can offer help.

    Planning for the future
    Children with autism spectrum disorder typically continue to learn and compensate for problems throughout life, but most will continue to require some level of support. Planning for your child’s future opportunities, such as employment, college, living situation, independence and the services required for support can make this process smoother.

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Stephen King sounds like an idiot.

    He has one of the worst cases of TDS on the planet. Arguably even worse than Jim Carrey, which is saying something.

    Stephen King Unhinged: ‘Trump Is Chickenshi**y, Bullshi**y, Dictatorial, Racist’ (18 Mar)

    There are reams of such spoutings from King.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    I did indeed, BB. McKellen and I were on the same page, so to speak.

    It’s interesting though because McKellen (Sir Ian) is undoubtedly one of the great actors of our time. In my view, Gary Oldman is the same (his performance in The Professional still guides me in my personal and professional life).

    Yet you never hear these two bang on about geopolitics, or climate change, or being vegan. In my view, that’s because they’re both perceptive fellows and realise that the public do not care what these two individuals, who make careers out of wearing other people’s clothes, standing where someone told them to stand and saying things they didn’t think of, believe on a personal level.

    Kid Rock was asked several years back what he thought of the state of US politics. He said words to the effect of ‘How the fuck would I know? I’m a musician.’ And he’s right, although he’s been outed as a Republican since and I reckon he’d be an awesome US Senator. Great optics.

  80. Roger

    Stephen King sounds like an idiot. Hope his latest book tanks and lives as a monument to woke stupidity.

    Gotcha! 🙂

    It’s from the Babylon Bee, Lizzie, a Christian satirical site.

  81. Top Ender

    Please!

    Copy and paste my comment for use under anything about Our Greta:

    She’s fighting for the polar bears! Won’t someone think of the polar bears? In 2005, there were 22,500. Now there is about 30,000. Hmmmm….that seems a bit illogical. Rather like Greta! https://www.thegwpf.org/as-polar-bear-numbers-increase-gwpf-calls-for-re-assessment-of-endangered-species-status/

  82. egg_

    With all of these young climate girls, the ABC comes across like one of those creepy old lesbian teachers busted for seducing one of her charges …

    ‘How dare you’: Watch Greta Thunberg’s passionate cry for climate action

    Get some hot climate action as dried up old Aunty lingers over moist young virgin undulations.

  83. calli

    Shit, I thought the Stephen King Story in the Bee was parody, but it’s actually real.

    It could be real. And given Orwell’s prescience, it might one day be real.

    And that, dear friends, is the beauty and horror of parody.

  84. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Brilliant Australian Government Commercial. 2mins

    Bloody marvelous!
    Thanks, Anne. That has made my morning.

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gotcha! 🙂

    Actually, I suspect the Bee is channeling this story:

    Stephen King compares new book ‘The Institute’ to Trump’s border policies (11 Sep)

    “But sometimes, life comes along and imitates art instead of the other way around,” he said. “As I was rewriting this book, all at once, I find out we’re locking little kids up in cages on the border and I’m thinking to myself — this is like my book.”

    Yep, the cages that Obama had. Those cages.

  86. calli

    Brilliant Australian Government Commercial. 2mins

    That’s the Australien Government, Anne.

    So now we know. But we always suspected.

  87. dover_beach

    Parents Allow 6-Year-Old Son To Begin Transitioning Into A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Per His Wishes: PORTLAND, OR—It began like any other day for the Leroux family. Greg and Cindy were getting ready for work—he a CSR for a paperclip manufacturer, she a street henna tattoo artist—when their boy Hayden came downstairs to eat his morning breakfast of Kashi’s new redwood-flavored cereal, made with bits of real redwood trees.

    As he munched on the twigs and leaves, he said the phrase that would change their lives forever: “Man, I wish I were Raphael.” Greg abruptly stopped brushing his neck hair. Cindy almost dropped her kombucha.

    We must laugh at them at every opportunity.

  88. Roger

    Yep, the cages that Obama had. Those cages.

    Funny how nobody on the Left seems able to admit this.

    They resolve their cognitive dissonance by blaming Trump instead.

  89. dover_beach

    Babylon Bee on Trudeau in ‘Blackface’:

    Liberals Clarify Their Racism Is Actually Democratic Racism

  90. dover_beach

    BB:

    Ralph Northam Assures Trudeau His Political Career Will Suffer No Consequences Whatsoever

    They really are very good satirists.

  91. Roger

    Actually, I suspect the Bee is channeling this story

    Alas, prog-Lefties will soon be beyond satire.

  92. Top Ender

    King’s family is rather strange. His wife has been touted as a novelist, but isn’t, much. Two of the three sons are supposed writers. The daughter is a lesbian church minister. Apparently King’s drug-taking was on the industrial scale.

  93. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    So now we know. But we always suspected.

    Brought to you by the Liberal/National Coalition government – as always.
    Just remember – vote Liberal cos they’re not Labor.

  94. dover_beach

    The Babylon Bee
    @TheBabylonBee
    ·
    Sep 22
    Hypocrisy: Right-Wingers Who Love It When The Babylon Bee Makes Stuff Up Suddenly Get Mad When The NYT Does It

    This is genius. I dips my hat.

  95. (Still on the Olde Fredde)
    Cardimona:

    Given the global embarrassment already caused, JCU’s vice-chancellor should step down now or be sacked by JCU’s University Council, which should then appoint Professor Ridd as vice-chancellor before stepping down themselves.

    You are evil.
    But I like you!

  96. Mother Lode

    Stephen King Pens ‘Horrifying’ New Novel In Which Conservatives Get Supreme Court Majority

    “My work has always focused on the evil humanity is capable of”

    Don’t his books usually involve protagonists who are not actually human, but some force of sheer evil that seems to have sprung from outside of nature? Seemingly never born of parents, with supernatural powers and with inexplicable desires to terrorise, to maim, to kill, to torture – without there being the slightest indication as to what they get from it. Just point-masses of evil.

    Unless you think there are people like that then you aren’t really exploring human evil.

    But if he means human evil as in some of the acts of selfishness and cowardice perpetrated by certain of the humans gripped by sheer terror again it is pointless. We are creatures of our dailies. Who knows how anyone would react in bizarre and far fetched situations, and unless you can connect your average person to the person they would be when strange monsters are threatening to eat them then you cannot talk about them at all.

    The book 1984 did an infinitely better job of this with Room 101 – and Orwell only had to write the book once, not again every couple of years.

    If you want to look at people behaving abominably in comprehensibly situations – I think you can’t go past a certain dead Senator who left a woman to drown in a car.

    He has obviously made enough money that he doesn’t need to worry about pissing off half his readership.

    If he ever writes an autobiography he should call it ‘Tit’.

  97. DrBeauGan

    I’ve just heard from Maria that her little girl has a fever, diagnosed as dengue. I suspect it’s actually Zika, but the quacks have been told to keep the Zika numbers down.

    The medics in Cuba seem to be competent enough, but it’s a worry all the same.

    A mosquito bite. And they don’t have much by way of insect repellent in Cuba.

  98. Zatara

    ‘“Once again, we are stigmatised and targeted as not being capable or worthy of managing our own affairs,” Mr Paterson told a Senate committee’

    Said the man demanding that someone else pay their expenses.

  99. Calli:

    On Greta – she was telling the truth. She shouldn’t be at the UN. She should be at school. That was a cry for help and all in plain sight.
    Her handlers should be horsewhipped.

    +lots.

  100. Pete of Perth

    Top Ender

    The RV Investigator will be in Darwin & is having an open day on Oct 15th. Public welcome: 2 – 6pm

    If you happen to be lurking.

  101. Zatara

    Is there a movie with a ghost always in the background with that eggsact same stare?

    Why yes, yes there is.

  102. zyconoclast

    New York (CNN)A New York judge earlier this month recommended a landlord pay $17,000 in fines for threatening to call immigration authorities on an undocumented tenant.

    This is the first case related to housing where threatening to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to harass or intimidate a tenant has been found to be a violation of law, according to a spokesperson for the New York City Commission on Human Rights.
    Holly Ondaan, the tenant and an undocumented immigrant at the time the case was filed, testified in court that she became “an emotional wreck” when her former landlord, Dianna Lysius, threatened to call ICE and sent demeaning texts because she was unable to pay rent.

  103. Zatara

    Well, ghost, psychotic child killer with scythe in a cornfield… close enough

  104. zyconoclast

    Would a body camera have helped?

    Mexican Police Commander Kidnapped, Beheaded in Cancun

    A group of cartel gunmen in Cancun kidnapped, tortured, and beheaded a top state law enforcement commander. The case apparently uncovered a wave of corruption where officials allegedly favor certain criminal organizations over others.

  105. Arky

    I’ve just heard from Maria that her little girl has a fever, diagnosed as dengue.

    ..
    Quick.
    Send money.

  106. zyconoclast

    House Democrats call for stripping tax-exempt status from 60 ‘hate groups’

    House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee said on Thursday that over 60 alleged hate groups, mostly socially conservative organizations, anti-immigration entities, and religious groups should be stripped of their tax-exempt status.

  107. Arky

    Almost any time in a political context someone says someone is going to get locked up, it’s a load of crap.
    Mud slinging and accusations of corruption are a dime a dozen, and once the election is won or lost, go NOWHERE.
    But this Biden thing? I think this guy is going to prison.

  108. 132andBush

    Top Ender

    #3165776, posted on September 24, 2019 at 10:17 am

    The problem with today’s Woke generation is they had no exposure to the USSR.

    For me, Solzhenitsyn provided an avenue for investigation of their pernicious regime.

    The present under 30s have no understanding of how universally intolerant but absolutely inefficient the whole concept was.

    Hence: “the only problem with socialism is that it’s never been properly tried.”

    I read on this very site that “The Gulag Archipelago” was a fictional work.

  109. Top Ender

    Thanks Pete – didn’t know that.

  110. dover_beach

    The nexus between climate change hysteria and politicized homosexuality is ‘the self’, its a type of solipsism, a practical solipsism.

  111. zyconoclast

    Student debt is hitting African Americans the hardest. These experts have a plan to fix it.

    The problem is that student loans were presented as a false solution for current and future workers enduring racial capitalism, particularly black people.

    The idea was that black workers’ elusive quest for higher wages along with job security and benefits could be realized if they earned a higher education credential. A credential would finally grant us access to “the good jobs.” However, this did not work.

    Black degree earners, however, are uniquely underpaid, underemployed and unprotected. The rampant racism across labor markets explains our crisis-level student loan outcomes. In an effort to escape bad jobs, black people borrow loans at whatever cost to attend colleges no matter the quality.

    But what if we focused less on black people getting the good jobs and more on turning the bad jobs good? The bad jobs that pay poverty wages, offer no benefits and shackle labor rights all interlocked with racist employment practices. If we remove the labor conditions that make debt desirable for mobility and necessary for survival, then student loans will become obsolete.

    This is a call for legislation to create good jobs — increase the minimum wage to a living wage, federally guarantee employment, provide universal health care and strengthen workers’ organizing power. As important, we need labor policies that explicitly focus on empowering workers in sectors like caretaking and service work where black people already are. So yes — cancel student debt, fund free college, but also make labor anti-racist.

  112. Top Ender

    The main usefulness of Solzhenitsyn and Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky et al is their usefulness to point towards examining the Russian psyche and how it evolved communism.

    In the same way that Dr Zhivago did, and several other films.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    Lessons Learned, Part XII;

    Never wash black polo shirts with tatty, disintegrating shower mats.

    You’re welcome.

  114. Arky

    Beaugan, don’t take my interest as giving a shit, because I don’t care if you live, die or grow a third arm out of your arsehole.
    That said, and assuming all this Cuba shit is for real and not a stupid wind up: Do you have someone in your life who keeps an eye out for you and you can talk to? Someone who might stop you from doing really, really dumb things?

  115. Zatara

    But this Biden thing? I think this guy is going to prison.

    Unfortunately, as hard as they are trying to hide the fact that he’s an ancient with few remaining brain cells in communion with each other, the moment he goes on trial he will be portrayed as poor old slobbering, disheveled, mentally incapable Uncle Joe.

    He’ll get a couple weeks in a politician minimum security jail with golf course and masseuse, then quietly die of Clinton disease.

  116. stackja

    132andBush
    #3165855, posted on September 24, 2019 at 11:42 am
    Top Ender

    #3165776, posted on September 24, 2019 at 10:17 am

    Johnson, Paul, Modern Times
    Robert Conquest, The Great Terror

  117. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3165861, posted on September 24, 2019 at 11:47 am

    Serfdom.

  118. Black Ball:

    It isn’t just Greta we should be worried about. As struth rightfully points out, it is the dominance of left leaning bureaucrats in our education system that bear responsibility for the shit we see now. One only need look at the climate protests on Friday. One would hope this cancer can be treated.

    The treatment for the Green Cancer is fasting.
    Sometimes called starvation when the Lysenko Theory of food production becomes dominant.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    House Democrats call for stripping tax-exempt status from 60 ‘hate groups’

    Take money away from their enemies, give money to their friends.

    Qld public servants to be given huge bonus (Courier Mail, paywalled)

    OVER 200000 Queensland public servants are set to be given a [$]1250 bonus under a staggering quarter of a billion dollar cash splash from the Palaszczuk Government.

    Queensland’s government debt is about $75 billion right now.

  120. Top Ender

    Actually, for understanding the Russian serf mentality a copy of Flashman at the Charge is very good.

  121. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Actually, for understanding the Russian serf mentality a copy of Flashman at the Charge is very good.

    Pay that one. “Satan, if there is one, is probably a Russian. No other nation possesses the same penchant for soulless cruelty.” (From memory.)

  122. Arky

    That whole don’t care if you live, die or grow a third arm out of your arsehole thing comes across as a bit harsh. Read it in a tone of disinterested neglect, rather than outright hostility.
    Smiley face.

  123. Zatara

    Black degree earners, however, are uniquely underpaid, underemployed and unprotected.

    Do they mean earners of Black Degrees?

    Because I’ve never seen a job advert requiring a degree in African American Studies or Ebonics, but those so called ‘degrees’ do exist, and they cost just as much as a real degree (less lab fees).

    The same can be said of any of the other ridiculously useless degrees on offer these days though and isn’t race or gender specific.

  124. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    The worship of the state is the worship of force. There is no more dangerous menace to civilization than a government of incompetent, corrupt, or vile men. The worst evils which mankind ever had to endure were inflicted by bad governments.

    — Ludwig von Mises

  125. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #3165860, posted on September 24, 2019 at 11:46 am

    WaPo would say that.

  126. stackja

    Female ASX 200 CEOs figures fall: study
    A study shows the percentage of businesswomen at the helm of the top 200 ASX-listed companies has gone backwards in the past year.
    Australian Associated Press
    September 24, 2019 11:43am

    Australia’s finance sector is struggling to shake its male-dominated image, with the number of female ASX 200-listed CEOs falling in the past 12 months.

    Woman accounted for 6.0 per cent of chief executive roles at the top 200 company’s on the ASX to July 20, down 1.0 per cent from 2018.

    The third annual ASX 200 CEO Tracker study, commissioned by recruitment agency Robert Half, found four of 43 newly appointed CEOs were female.

  127. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Read it in a tone of disinterested neglect, rather than outright hostility.

    Why?
    Herr Doctor Mengele needs to learn not to dish it out if he can’t take it.
    As far as I’m concerned the prick is fair game for as long as one of us is still alive.

  128. Knuckle Dragger

    So the domestic one-day cricket shield is now called the Marsh Cup. Understandably, I was gutshot when I heard this as I had formed the view the comp was named in honour of Shaun and/or Mitchell Marsh.

    As it turns out, JLT (the previous sponsor) have been taken over by some group called the Marsh and McLennan Company.

    I remain suspicious.

  129. stackja

    The Masked Singer ratings are in and it’s a ratings juggernaut

    The ratings are in for Ten’s new reality show The Masked Singer Australia, which has smashed its rivals after its debut episode.
    Shoba Rao, Kathy McCabe and Cameron Adams, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only

    September 24, 2019 12:07pm

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. is a global professional services firm, headquartered in New York City with businesses in insurance brokerage, risk management, reinsurance services, TALENT MANAGEMENT*, investment advisory, and management consulting.’

    So not Shaun and Mitch then.

    *My emphasis. Freakin’ obviously.

  131. Arky

    Anyone can lose a child, and it is tragic.
    But there are certain people who seem to have a cluster of family deaths around them.
    Hitler, for example.
    Stalin, also.
    And that disgusting hippy idiot Geldof.
    More than one untimely death of close relations makes you suspect there is something terrible about that person.
    This Biden individual has outlived two children and a wife.

  132. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Bee got me!

    Whereas woke and unfunny The Onion seems to have shriveled.
    The trouble for them is nowadays only righties can do humour.
    Any lefty that tries will be destroyed if they step the slightest bit awry.

  133. jupes

    Female ASX 200 CEOs figures fall: study

    Do they also study female plumbers?

  134. Dr Faustus

    In Oh Dear How Sad Never Mind news:

    A video of Donald Trump walking past Greta Thunberg has gone viral

    Greta, Climate Warrior Princess, looking teenishly excited at the prospect of some face-to-face with the Orange Man, turns into Little Miss Sulky as she is side-penned and Trump is escorted past.

    The obsession with this unwell child is a sure sign of The End of Days.

  135. GoTiges

    Pay that one. “Satan, if there is one, is probably a Russian. No other nation possesses the same penchant for soulless cruelty.” (From memory.)

    Flying to Fiji on Virgin about 4 weeks ago, and one of the in-flight movies was ‘The Kursk’, the story of the Russian submarine that exploded but there were still some of the crew left alive in one of the compartments. It’s shocking the way the Russians behaved and the movie shows how they dealt with the poor wives and mothers waiting for news. Colin Firth does a good job of playing Flag Officer Submarines who was trying to help.
    Anyway, tried to buy a copy at JB HiFi when I got back. Nil stock. Asked at the counter, ‘oh yes we can see it has been released in Australia but we don’t have it’ Can you order it in? ‘No’
    I wonder if it’s because it shows Russia as it was. Weird because they stock some pretty horrible rubbish from China like that POS movie Bruce Willis was in, trying to show how brave the chink pilots were against the Japs. The Bombing. Don’t buy that whatever you do.

  136. notafan

    The Kursk

    readily available on ebay au Fishpond etc

    j

  137. Knuckle Dragger:

    Lessons Learned, Part XII;
    Never wash black polo shirts with tatty, disintegrating shower mats.
    You’re welcome.

    My mum gave me good advice when she said “Never mix Whites and Coloured.”
    Then I found out that she wasn’t talking washing stuff.
    Bad mum.

  138. Knuckle Dragger

    The Russians are a peculiarly fatalistic people. They were such during the feudal era, that of the Tsars and again post-1917.

    Stories abound of their unarmed troops linking arms and charging Cherman machine guns during WW2 during the defence of Moscow, Stalingrad and at Minsk. Of course, millions of them were killed but it’s the way they were killed that’s striking. Sure, it’s partially to do with the ideology but the vast majority of these punters went along with it.

    Khrushchev, then a commissar reputedly told Stalin ‘they can throw us back beyond the Urals, but we’ll still win in the end.’

    Isolation may have something to do with it as well. Apparently, when charging through eastern Chermany in 1945 the Ivans were furious at finding villages with nice white picket fences, little fruit trees and well-maintained cottages – none of which they had at home. They couldn’t work out why the Krauts wanted their piece of shit huts and treeless steppes which went for hundreds of kilometres.

  139. John Constantine

    Deakin University
    Sponsored ·

    Professor Brett Bryan and other world-class experts from Deakin are calling on us all to take more action to save nature before it’s too late.

  140. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Russians are a peculiarly fatalistic people. They were such during the feudal era, that of the Tsars and again post-1917.

    Proverb dating from the First World War – “It is a wide path that leads to war, a narrow path that leads home, but old Mother Russia has plenty of sons.”

  141. Odd sort of day – it’s overcast, the Redwing Parrot family haven’t turned up for their feed, and I’ve got a plague of dead and dying cockroaches, 18 so far. Most of them still alive but on their backs and doing break dancing stuff. Caught one flying in last night, so no idea of what’s stirred them up…
    Should I ask Pol Tot if it’s a sign of something?

  142. John64

    The World Today on TheirABC opened today with 10 minutes of climate catastrophism; with the UN climate emergency moppets quoted as if deities and full blown climate change loon Geoff Cousins treated as a sage by Elanor Hall in the softest and most unquestioning interview one could imagine.

    An absolute disgrace.

  143. Mother Lode

    Stories abound of their unarmed troops linking arms and charging Cherman machine guns during WW2 during the defence of Moscow, Stalingrad and at Minsk. Of course, millions of them were killed but it’s the way they were killed that’s striking. Sure, it’s partially to do with the ideology but the vast majority of these punters went along with it.

    You often hear about the price the Russian paid in terms of lives lost in WWII, but I have always wondered how much of that was due to stupid and pig-headed decisions on their part. I should think a measurable percentage at least. Certainly the Western Nations not conquered by the Nasties had the advantage of having water between them and the continent.

    The Western Allies had not decimated their military class to appoint sycophants loyal to a leader who did not like bad news, and a whole lot of stupid decisions would have flowed on from that.

  144. Zatara

    world-class experts from Deakin

    How does that work? Do they outrank continent-class experts? What about out-of-this-world experts?

  145. Dr Faustus

    Germany, UK, France blame Iran for Saudi oil attacks

    “It is clear for us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” the three leaders said in the joint statement released by France.

    “We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East.

    On Monday, Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said a military attack would have completely knocked out Saudi’s Arabia’s main oil-producing facility, again denying accusations that his country was behind the oil attacks.

    So. The dialogue facilitating seems to be working well, then.

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    They couldn’t work out why the Krauts wanted their piece of shit huts and treeless steppes which went for hundreds of kilometres.

    “Lebensraum” was a nice plausible-sounding lie to run with, like “climate change”.

  147. Mother Lode

    Certainly the Western Nations not conquered by the Nasties had the advantage of having water between them and the continent, but still.

    I blame Siri – even though I am typing on a keyboard.

    If I blamed Trump no one would turn a hair!

  148. Roger

    UK Labour promises a four day working week.

    A the same time they’re proposing billions in subsidies for Green power and electric cars.

    Who pays?

    Today a high profile lawyer will address their national conference on the need for the crime of “ecocide” to be legislated and the desirability of banning meat and dairy because they are bad for you “like cigarettes”.

  149. Mother Lode

    the desirability of banning meat and dairy because they are bad for you “like cigarettes”.

    I don’t know that anyone feels better when having to deal with lawyers.

    They like keeping the law an impenetrable thicket that other people blunder into unawares and must pay through the nose to be extricated from. It should be a broad parkland with perhaps a few areas with warning signs that are almost redundant because common sense tells you you can’t just belt people up or steal their car.

  150. Top Ender

    Who pays?

    Foolish boy Roger.

    You will.

    And any middle-class people who own anything.

    Corbyn is also going to nationalise transport and housing.

    Rumours grey uniforms will be given out for all to wear compulsorily have been denied.

  151. stackja

    ML – NKVD provided the incentive to charge the machine guns.

  152. Boambee John

    Would it be too harsh to suggest that Pol Tot leads the IPCC’s Tot enkopf Division?

  153. Some History

    Looks like Rolling Stone likes Greta™

    ‘You Are Failing Us’: Greta Thunberg Calls Out World Leaders in Passionate UN Speech
    “Right here, right now is where we draw the line,” said the 16-year-old activist. “The world is waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or not.”

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greta-thunberg-call-un-speech-new-york-2019-888824/

  154. Bushkid

    Qld public servants to be given huge bonus (Courier Mail, paywalled)

    OVER 200000 Queensland public servants are set to be given a [$]1250 bonus under a staggering quarter of a billion dollar cash splash from the Palaszczuk Government.

    Why the hell do we even have 200000 public serpents here in Qld?

  155. Mother Lode

    Rumours grey uniforms will be given out for all to wear compulsorily have been denied.

    Damn straight!

    Against the drab grey concrete of Glorious Democratic Peoples construction, and with the dry papery skin of the starving people, it would be impossible to control them.

    Hi-Vis all round!!!

  156. Roger

    Rhetorical question, TE.

    And when OPM runs out what then…print the stuff!?

  157. Roger

    Why the hell do we even have 200000 public serpents here in Qld?

    Why, to shore up Labor’s vote in Brisbane (where most of them are based), of course.

  158. stackja

    Roger – Money by the wheelbarrow.

  159. Knuckle Dragger:
    Khrushchev, then a commissar reputedly told Stalin ‘they can throw us back beyond the Urals, but we’ll still win in the end.’
    It was actually the Bulgarian Ambassador who was called in to the Kremlin and asked if he would broker an armistice where Hitler would get the Ukraine/Baltic States/Belarus. He told Stalin that “Even if you retreat to the Urals, you’ll win in the end.”

  160. egg_

    ‘You Are Failing Us’: Greta Thunberg Calls Out World Leaders in Passionate UN Speech
    “Right here, right now is where we draw the line,” said the 16-year-old activist. “The world is waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or not.”

    We’re being attacked by Green Nude Eels?
    From Space?

  161. Knuckle Dragger:

    Khrushchev, then a commissar reputedly told Stalin ‘they can throw us back beyond the Urals, but we’ll still win in the end.’

    It was actually the Bulgarian Ambassador who was called in to the Kremlin and asked if he would broker an armistice where Hitler would get the Ukraine/Baltic States/Belarus. He told Stalin that “Even if you retreat to the Urals, you’ll win in the end.”
    Quote fail.

  162. cohenite

    Dr Faustus

    #3165903, posted on September 24, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    In Oh Dear How Sad Never Mind news:

    A video of Donald Trump walking past Greta Thunberg has gone viral

    That link at the stinking sbs is not working; here is the little rat pulling faces as real power walks past:

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    Aha.

    Knew it was some boxhead or other.

    Appreciated, Winston.

  164. Dr Faustus

    UK Labour promises a four day working week.
    A the same time they’re proposing billions in subsidies for Green power and electric cars.

    No problemo for a party also promising to nationalise rail companies, energy supply networks, water systems and mail delivery. Once you accept a £176 billion bill for nationalisation, 15% clipped off the productive economy and a few billion sprinkled on renewables is easy peasy.

    As far as I can make out, the strategy is to make the UK such a shithole that North Africans no longer want to ‘informally migrate’ there. Could work.

  165. johanna

    UK Labour are also going to confiscate and close down all non-government schools, and allow residents who are not citizens to vote in national elections.

    Such an enticing program – if you are a Stalinist.

    Like the Dimmicrats, they are galloping further and further leftward, and leaving much of their traditional constituency behind.

    The Dims may survive, because the two party system is so completely entrenched in the US. But, given the seismic activity and greater flexibility in the UK political system, Labour may become a splinter party, with their former voters going to the Scottish Nationalists, the Liberal Democrats and so on.

  166. Buccaneer

    Stories abound of their unarmed troops linking arms and charging Cherman machine guns during WW2 during the defence of Moscow, Stalingrad and at Minsk. Of course, millions of them were killed but it’s the way they were killed that’s striking. Sure, it’s partially to do with the ideology but the vast majority of these punters went along with it.

    I think you’ll find it had little to do with the ideology and a lot to do with the propensity of officers of the Red Army to use their machine guns on their own troops if they looked like deserting. Quickly, a Russian infantrymen realised he stood a better chance of surviving if the guy next to him with a gun bought it first, because then he could fight the krauts. Turning back was certain unarmed death.

  167. Some History

    Thunberg said before arriving in the US she would not be meeting with the President as it would be a waste of her time.
    “Why should I waste time talking to him when he, of course, is not going to listen to me?” she told CBS. “I can’t say anything that he hasn’t already heard.”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/09/teen-activist-greta-thunberg-stuns-in-emotional-un-climate-speech.html

    Greta as Trump walked by:

    https://imgur.com/GrEsPII

  168. Some History

    Wha… what happened to the Torminaytar.
    Says he was “star struck” meeting Greta™

    https://imgur.com/l0KhE2O

  169. Boambee John

    jupes
    #3165902, posted on September 24, 2019 at 12:28 pm
    Female ASX 200 CEOs figures fall: study

    Do they also study female plumbers?

    Misread that as “plumbing”!!

  170. Geriatric Mayfly

    We have not even finished with the Ukraine scandal yet, and another arises. Orange Man Bad snubs Pol Tot.

  171. cohenite

    Wha… what happened to the Torminaytar.
    Says he was “star struck” meeting Greta™

    https://imgur.com/l0KhE2O

    It was sick enough when the little brat met the pope and that creep who runs the UN; this takes it down another notch.

    I met arnie some time ago in his muscle prime; he was an arrogant shit then but you accepted it as part of the deal. Now he’s just a shit. It makes it hard for me to watch his best movies: Commando, Terminator 1 & 2, True Lies, Stay Hungry and Pumping Iron.

  172. Dr Faustus

    OVER 200000 Queensland public servants are set to be given a [$]1250 bonus under a staggering quarter of a billion dollar cash splash from the Palaszczuk Government.

    The undead Ms Trad said the money was in response to Reserve Bank of Australia calls for governments to aid stimulation in the face of capped public-sector wage growth.

    Not so, says ‘an economist’:

    The move will cost Queensland about $250 million but most of that money is destined for bill and credit card payments, according University of Queensland economist John Mangan.

    “People will pay debt off. It’ll do nothing at all,” Professor Mangan said.

    “That’s what always happens when you get these one-off income jolts.

    “If it were a permanent pay rise, that would be a completely different thing.”

    He doesn’t get it. At all.

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    So West Coast forward Willie Rioli tested positive for cannabis after the elimination final against Essurderrrrr.

    Bad luck little fella. You should have just replaced your sample with Powerade, and you’d have been golden.

    Plenty of gunja on the Tiwis for you though. Enjoy.

  174. notafan

    I take it Greta was ushered out of the way of Trump and his entourage

    not the most important person in the room after all

    I can’t believe adults are listening to this child’s histrionics.

    Is she is staying in a modern building in New York or has she pitched a yurt (with a bucket) in Times Square

    Still don’t know how she is planning to get back to Sweden

    and wasn’t she also going to South America?

  175. Doc Faustus:

    “It is clear for us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack. There is no other plausible explanation,” the three leaders said in the joint statement released by France.
    “We are committed to continuing our diplomatic efforts to create conditions and facilitate dialogue with all relevant partners interested in de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East.

    Bwaaahaahaa.
    Keep using the process that gave you the problem in the first place, and kept it going at the cost of millions of shattered lives, and is guaranteed to keep giving the same result until the end of time.
    Stupid monkeys.

  176. C.L.

    Well, this is a tad more exciting than our own senate …
    Video: Photojournalist shot in face as Haitian senator opens fire outside parliament.
    Hit by an ejected shell case, I’d say. Not shot.

  177. Bushkid:

    Qld public servants to be given huge bonus (Courier Mail, paywalled)
    OVER 200000 Queensland public servants are set to be given a [$]1250 bonus under a staggering quarter of a billion dollar cash splash from the Palaszczuk Government.
    Why the hell do we even have 200000 public serpents here in Qld?

    This will go down so well with the taxpayers of Queensland.
    Hang on. It’s a brilliant move – there are more Public Servants than Taxpayers!

  178. Ubique

    A knowledgeable Cat recently posted something pointing out the incredible destruction of insects, rodents and birds that result from crop growing and horticulture – which should give pause for thoughts by vegans, vegetarians and other related enemies of we carnivores and omnivores.

    Where can I re-locate that useful info?

  179. Mother Lode

    The entire production of the Greta show is nauseating, and an exercise of people who think themselves so clever for hiding behind her little gimlet eyes and rope-like braids, certain that as long as they hold her in front no one would dare saying anything that would upset them.

    It is the knot of cynical manipulative people who give her the words, shepherd her from place to place, push he in front of cameras and podiums, push, nudge, turn about, reel in…

    If she had not been singled out and weaponised to act as the face of climate doom, she would be home in her Mum’s kitchen arranging the turnips in the pantry by size, shape and colour, throwing away the 75% of them that cause her distress for their not being correctly ‘turnip-shaped’.

  180. Knuckle Dragger

    I was reading something earlier today from a purported science/medical guy that said he analysed the little Scandi chick’s melon and observed it had all the characteristics of foetal alcohol syndrome.

    This probably deserves some degree of scrutiny.

  181. Some History

    [slightly modified]

    Greta as Trump walked by:

    https://imgur.com/ZJL4v4R

  182. feelthebern

    So West Coast forward Willie Rioli tested positive for cannabis after the elimination final against

    What a joke.
    A player using an anti inflammatory 2019 gets him banned.
    Under the next NFL CBA which will extend the season from 16 to 18 games, cannabis will be removed from the banned list.

  183. max

    Just a few months ago, Australia had an election widely touted as ‘the climate election’.

    Thanks mainly to Qld the climageddonists lost.

    This needs to be pointed out to the Q&A panel and audience when they ramp up the aggressive hysteriaas they did last night.

    The sacrificial Liberal on the show tried to appease them when what was needed was a good, hard reminder that Australians just voted against this crap. Suck it up.

  184. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Craniofacial feature associated with foetal alcohol syndrome’

    ‘Skin folds at the corner of the eye.’ Tick.
    ‘Low nasal bridge.’ Tick.
    ‘Short nose’. Tick.
    ‘Small head circumference.’ Tick.
    ‘Small eye opening.’ Big tick.
    ‘Small midface.’ Tick.
    ‘Thin upper lip.’ Tick.
    Indistinct philitrum (groove between nose and upper lip).’ Tick.
    ‘Below average height, weight or both.’ Tick, tick and tick.

    This is from Wiki (I know) but it’s referenced to a number of University of Washington papers.

    Mummy? Oh, Mummy dearest, what have you gone and done?

  185. custard

    Trump has retweeted Thunbergs rant from overnight.

    @realDonaldTrump

    She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see!

  186. Mother Lode

    “in the face of capped public-sector wage growth”

    I didn’t realise that the Babylon Bee had articles about the Australian Public Service, or that Trad could read.

    I like the brilliant economist’s reassurance that all they are doing is turning Public Servants’ private debt into state public debt.

    I think our economy will not turn around until the last economist has been pushed in front of an oncoming train. (Our esteemed Doom Lord, and those like-minded, excepted.)

    Actually, just to be sure, we should probably provide all politicians with Opal Cards with enough credit to get into a station once. No need for more than that.

  187. min

    That teenager would never have a happy positive thought . Soon she will have a psychotic turn with the constant negativity , catastrophising , cognitive distortions and the anger she exhibits is how to end up FINE. F###ed up Insecure Neurotic and Emotional. Perhaps an evening with Willie Soon would cheer her up.

  188. feelthebern

    That Greta speech reminded me of a speech I saw on the history channel.
    In the 1930’s.
    In Germany.

  189. Mark A

    egg.
    Just so you know, I’m not correcting my typos, no need for you to point them out.
    I’m well aware of them, but care not.

  190. Louis

    Beattie worked out years ago that if you own a large enough public service in Queensland, you are pretty assured of having enough seats to control government.

  191. feelthebern

    Palaszczuk is on track to win the next election in QLD.
    This is the fault of the hopeless opposition in QLD.

  192. 1735099

    I was reading something earlier today from a purported science/medical guy that said he analysed the little Scandi chick’s melon and observed it had all the characteristics of foetal alcohol syndrome.

    The Nazis used facial stereotypes to demonise Joos.

    It’s absolutely unsurprising, therefore, to find the same kind of facial stereotyping in place here.

  193. Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaaand Liability Bob crops up again after his traditional early morning 500 ‘words’ on random subjects, now he’s been embarrassed by his cause du jour.

    Take it up with the Yank professors, you cretin.

    Woof, by the way.

  194. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Nazis used facial stereotypes to demonise Joos.

    It’s absolutely unsurprising, therefore, to find the same kind of facial stereotyping in place here.”

    So writes the blog’s expert Jooo hater.

  195. Mitch M.

    I was reading something earlier today from a purported science/medical guy that said he analysed the little Scandi chick’s melon and observed it had all the characteristics of foetal alcohol syndrome.

    Rubbish.

  196. notafan

    very odd

    is someone suggesting that children with foetal alcohol syndrome or certain genetic conditions should never be diagnosed because ‘facial stereotyping’ ?

  197. Thefrollickingmole

    Do Numberwang loves diagnosing people here with all sorts of disorders.
    Somehow, despite being a self proclaimed friend of the Aboriginal he knows nothing about FASD, a widely known disorder that has defined effects on facial features.

    It’s almost like he knows jack shit.

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    And, you idiot, they used genetic markers rather than ‘facial stereotypes’. Despite there not being a Chooish gene.

    It is not racist to mention that southern Italians are generally more hirsute than average.

    It is not racist to mention that Asian punters have differing eye appearances to roundeyes.

    It is not racist to point out that rangas are, with certain notable exceptions, giant flogs.

    And it is certainly not racist to highlight craniofacial features widely associated by some of the planet’s leading medical people with a person’s Mumsy being on the piss, Bohemian hippie style, all the way through her pregnancy.

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    Is this like somebody watching a Holocaust survivor in his 90s, on the teev, who he’s never seen before, and then diagnosing him as ‘strong and wise’, and that ‘he calls it as he sees it’?

    Are there diagnostic testing procedures for this, Dr Strangelove?

  200. 1735099

    Do (sic) Numberwang loves diagnosing people here with all sorts of disorders.

    Except that I’m not the one diagnosing.

    he knows nothing about FASD

    Having taught kids with FAS for decades, I’ll wager I know a bit more about it than you, and enough to know that diagnosing this particular young woman with FAS is weapons grade bullshit.

  201. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams, Statists Get Out Reeeeee are absolutely killing it right now.

    Anti christ, anti messianic. Read on.

    https://www.facebook.com/statistsgetoutreee/

    https://www.facebook.com/statistsgetoutreee/photos/pb.1433205213361958.-2207520000.1569302724./2915559061793225/?type=3&theater

  202. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Business as usual at the Cat:

    1) – Fairly normal, diverse conversation.
    2) – The draft dodger shows up and makes a derogatory comment.
    3) – Thread derailed. Again.

  203. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    These guys are fuckin’ killin’ it’ as well

    NUCLEAR POWER MEMES

    (I’m NOT arguing, I’m explaining WHY I AM RIGHT)

    https://www.facebook.com/Nuclear-Power-Memes-2102565193307425/?tn-str=k*F

  204. Ellie

    I don’t know if this has been posted, but AJ was spot on this morning.
    Link

  205. jupes

    More trouble for Rioli after positive test for cannabis

    A positive match-day test for a drug such as marijuana can attract a penalty of multiple years under the League’s anti-doping code.

    Why FFS? Does anyone seriously believe that dope is performance enhancing? The problem is the clubs are too sychophantic to the AFL to do anything about it:

    “We will continue to support him through this particularly challenging time to assist him while this ongoing investigation runs its course.

    “The club will respect the process of the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this case and will co-operate fully with it.

    “We expect that these processes will take some months to complete and the club will not be in a position to make further comment until such completion.”

    Respecting a stupid and overly drawn-out “process” is the worst thing the clubs can do. Idiots.

  206. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    4) FRANK FUCKIN’ WALKER THEN CHIMES IN WITH A RANT ABOUT GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION AND NUKES!

  207. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    notafan
    #3166034, posted on September 24, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    very odd

    is someone suggesting that children with foetal alcohol syndrome or certain genetic conditions should never be diagnosed because ‘facial stereotyping’ ?

    Okay, explain resting bitch face and cat’s bum’s mouth disease.

    That and flaming queer voice.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    No-one here diagnosed the junior Scandi twit/human shield with anything, Liability Bob.

    Similarities were pointed out between her craniofacial features and those determined by people with decades in the field – of high-end medicine, not spastic herding – to be consistent with foetal alcohol syndrome. That’s it.

    Way to shake hands with that electric buzzer, though. The old reflexes haven’t missed a beat.

  209. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Luck.

    Fuck a duck.

    https://www.nber.org/digest/nov06/w12159.html

    “Graduating in a recession leads to large initial earnings losses. These losses, which amount to about 9 percent of annual earnings in the initial stage, eventually recede, but slowly — halving within five years but not disappearing until about ten years after graduation.”

    Now amortise that and think of the lifetime losses.

  210. Cassie of Sydney

    The Nazis used facial stereotypes to demonise Joos.”

    Hmmm…I wonder what “facial stereotype” the Toowoomba Jooo hater is referring to? Hooked noses?

  211. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Are going for some kind of record, Dot?

  212. 1735099

    It is not racist to mention that southern Italians are generally more hirsute than average.

    Who said anything about racism?
    The issue is stereotyping in order to smear.
    60% of kids with FAS have IQ’s more than two standard deviations below the mean, and the remainder exhibit some form of intellectual disability.
    The very articulate Greta Thunberg does not present as a person with low IQ.

    Methinks you doth protest too much.

    Is this like somebody watching a Holocaust survivor in his 90s, on the teev, who he’s never seen before, and then diagnosing him as ‘strong and wise’, and that ‘he calls it as he sees it’?

    Sit down – the dog is pissing on your swag.
    You can hear it barking in the background when you post woof!

  213. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3166056, posted on September 24, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    Are going for some kind of record, Dot?

    A broken one.

  214. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    It is not racist to mention that southern Italians are generally more hirsute than average.

    Do you want a Chesterfield, you fucking cantalopue?

  215. notafan

    Okay, explain resting bitch face and cat’s bum’s mouth disease.

    That and flaming queer voice.

    why ask me?
    I was simply pointing out that certain facial characteristics can lead to a diagnosis of genetic illnesses.

    Some are pretty darn obvious, even to the layman

  216. 1735099

    Similarities were pointed out between her craniofacial features and those determined by people with decades in the field – of high-end medicine, not spastic herding – to be consistent with foetal alcohol syndrome. That’s it.

    Why?

    Woof – there’s that bloody dog again…..

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘60% of kids with FAS have IQ’s more than two standard deviations below the mean, and the remainder exhibit some form of intellectual disability.
    The very articulate Greta Thunberg does not present as a person with low IQ.’

    So a 40% chance at least then, according to Dr Bob.

    And that’s not her talking. That’s her speechwriter.

  218. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    The poor kid is retarded and she is being used like a hand puppet.

    Fucking sickening.

  219. Winston Smith #3165952, posted on September 24, 2019 at 1:24 pm
    …It was actually the Bulgarian Ambassador….

    Winston; Thank you.

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    Love that scene, Frank.

  221. stackja

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3166052, posted on September 24, 2019 at 3:32 pm
    No-one here diagnosed the junior Scandi twit/human shield with anything, Liability Bob.

    The angry private could read:

    Greta Thunberg
    From Wikipedia

    Greta Thunberg was born on 3 January 2003 in Stockholm,[7][8] the daughter of opera singer Malena Ernman and actor Svante Thunberg.[9] Her paternal grandfather is actor and director Olof Thunberg.[10]

    Thunberg says she first heard about climate change in 2011, when she was 8 years old, and could not understand why so little was being done about it.[11] Three years later she became depressed and lethargic, stopped talking and eating, and was eventually diagnosed with Asperger syndrome,[12] obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD),[12] and selective mutism.[12][13] While acknowledging that her diagnosis “has limited me before”, she does not view her autism as an illness and has instead called it her “superpower”.[13]

    Many links to The Guardian. The preferred source for Leftists.

  222. Arky

    I too have taught many kids with foetal alcohol syndrome.
    They all looked identical to that hysterical chick the tards are using.

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