Tuesday Forum: September 24, 2019

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  1. Zatara

    No I don’t think that. But if you think things will get better without people fighting back against the lefty shitstorm then dream on Petulia.

    Oh you are humping the wrong leg on that one bucko.

    I’m not a 20 something, or even a 30 something, etc. with stars in my eyes. I’ve got my scars and am a realist about what exists, and more importantly a fighter for what can and should be.

    Vote Zatara!

  2. Snoopy

    Kate Middleton and Prince William officially name Boaty McBoatface ship in honour of Sir David Attenborough

    Fortunately Karen Middleton wasn’t entrusted with the bottle of champagne.

  3. Mother Lode

    Greta Thunberg Is Reportedly Driving Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Car To Montreal

    Yeah, but by warmie accounting, those CO2 emissions are added to Arnold’s tally.

    Greta remains pure – (not ‘raw’ pure, but ‘adjusted’ pure. Adjusted is the natural realm of the warmie.)

  4. bespoke

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3168957, posted on September 27, 2019 at 1:11 pm
    On the subject of lying in the box, unkind people over the years have suggested that the police themselves have been less than truthful when giving evidence on occasion. Ostensibly this is to stitch up a piece of shit that deserves to be locked away from normal people. Mate of mine reckons it’s a preventative measure for demonstrated past killers and ropers and that.

    I see the sentiment but no way is it good to let cops be judge and jury .

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    bespoke,

    That’s what I said at the time that I heard it.

    Ludicrous.

  6. Infidel Tiger

    We have to get Brexit done before Her Maj croaks it and the new breed of Royals gets a sniff of power.

    By fuck they are awful. Then we must take them down and bring back the Stuarts.

  7. JC

    I don’t get the scramble over Afterpay. I recall the IPO and was told to buy some stock, but I never thought much about it.

    I understand that if you pay the debt schedule on time, you aren’t socked for interest penalty and can therefore buy the item at the price being sold in the store…. ( no credit card interest charges to carry the debt). But how many freaking people buy junk or want to buy junk on front end lay-buy system anyway and not simply use their credit cards?

  8. feelthebern

    Should I post about the royal family?
    Hmmm….

  9. feelthebern

    The whole buy now pay later sector is taking a view on the regulators views.

  10. dover_beach

    Jane Caro: The Church Is Finally Losing Its Grip On Births, Deaths And Marriages

    She argues in that piece that in opposing abortion the Church is in effect ‘controlling women’ via their uterus. This is like arguing that opposition to murder ‘controls hands’. It’s very hard to be charitable when confronted with this sort of reasoning.

  11. pete m

    JC, it has proven popular with those wishing to avoid credit cards and instant interest cost.

    Not my cup of tea but my broker recommended it as his hot pick for the year and glad I accepted his advice.

    I do wonder though at the competition, and their attempt to get into USA, which seems to be going well, so will likely hold them for a little while longer.

    cohenite – yeah a Cat party would be lovely – but any gains on shares stay within the investment and I can’t touch it or I’d be in deep doodoo.

  12. feelthebern

    The regulator risk is not whether the buy now pay later sector is offering credit.
    It is whether the regulators allow the buy now pay later sector to data harvest.
    The data harvesting of potential users is in breach of multiple acts here in Australia.
    At some stage the ACCC will pop its head up.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    The danger with afterpay is that the whole company could be made illegal by parliament in very short order.

    You better believe that its competitors are working on that.

  14. Mitch M;
    That video on the Younger Dryas extinction is very good.
    Also good is the presence of dissenting theories on the site.
    That’s how science is done.

  15. calli

    bring back the Stuarts.

    Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein?

    He’s third in line (Jacobites). Seems presentable enough. Except for a predecessor called Ruprecht.

  16. JC

    JC, it has proven popular with those wishing to avoid credit cards and instant interest cost.

    I get that. I also get the idea that it’s better than the old store run lay-buy rackets because the punter gets the goods instead of waiting until the last payment. But the problem I had, was being pessimistic they would get many punters onboard. Lay-buy was a dying thing anyway. Incredible.

    As an aside, there was an imebcile a few months back at the Cat, arguing Afterpay reduced debt. Go figure.

  17. calli

    Lol. I beat you to it, Bern.

  18. feelthebern

    You better believe that its competitors are working on that.

    But right now they are are pushing it is credit & they appear to surfing that wave.
    The real issue is the tech.
    They all run black box type algo’s on potential users.
    In the US, it’s legal.
    In Asia, it’s legal.
    In Australian it is explicitly banned.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t be bagging the name Ruprecht, lady.

    Ruprecht in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with Caine and Martin was awesome.

    ‘Ruprecht – you’ve been banging on your pots again, haven’t you?’

  20. Some History

    He’s third in line (Jacobites). Seems presentable enough. Except for a predecessor called Ruprecht.

    This one?

    https://imgur.com/QNyiBqd

  21. Infidel Tiger

    Airport lounge: people filling beer glasses with wine. Hoovering food like they can make their plane ticket worth its price if they eat a slops bucket full.

  22. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #3169004, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    The danger with afterpay is that the whole company could be made illegal by parliament in very short order.

    You better believe that its competitors are working on that.

    Why would they do that though. The consumer isn’t being hit with interest – just the repayments. In this case, governments don’t give a shit about stores.

  23. calli

    That was who I had in mind. Monkey Boy.

    Ruprecht! You want the genital cuff?

  24. feelthebern

    Who are the highest paid contractors at all the listed & unlisted buy now pay later providers?
    The companies they contract the tech/algo’s to.
    The unlisted ones have had to disclose that in their bond offerings.
    The contractors illegally (in Australia) mine your data prior to providing credit (whoops buy now pay later “services”).

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Why would vaping be made illegal?

    Established players run the show. Corporatism is rotten.

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Not Mother?’

    ‘Oklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahomaoklahoma’

  27. calli

    Actually, that would be a good threat to the local trolls.

    But bags not applying it.

  28. feelthebern

    Why would they do that though

    Why does the ACCC do half the shit it does?

  29. JC

    They all run black box type algo’s on potential users.
    In the US, it’s legal.
    In Asia, it’s legal.
    In Australian it is explicitly banned.

    We don’t have a points system or a points system is banned? Really?
    I mean , the work done to reach the credit score in the US would be an algo and that’s not allowed here? FMD!

  30. JC

    feelthebern
    #3169023, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    Why would they do that though

    Why does the ACCC do half the shit it does?

    Infidel Tiger
    #3169019, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    Why would vaping be made illegal?

    Established players run the show. Corporatism is rotten.

    Fair enough.

  31. Armadillo

    but any gains on shares stay within the investment and I can’t touch it or I’d be in deep doodoo.

    That’s not our problem. Just hold the Cat party and be grateful for the excellent advice given on how to spend your ill gotten gains.

  32. feelthebern

    In Australia, the buy now pay later sector use external contractors to run the black box.
    The black box is simple.
    The black box:
    geo tracks you (are you at your home at 3am);
    who are your social media associates (extreme example are you friends with Mick Gatto);
    your back ground (are you indigenous);
    plus a lot of other stuff.

  33. JC

    After the Human Rights non Commission, the ACCC would be the next organization I would burn to a cinder and jail the employees for treason. The ACCC is diabolical.

    They fucking tried to ban grog and petrol discounting.

  34. bespoke

    Just had an eye test, do glasses improve IQ?.

  35. JC

    geo tracks you (are you at your home at 3am);

    How can they do that? Obviously the others are easy enough.

  36. feelthebern

    In Australia, in my opinion, there are three outcomes with the buy now pay later sector.
    1) The sector will be regulated like the rest of the credit providers (huge growth impediment);
    2) The sector will come clean on the tech/algo’s & pledge to stop (kills the business model);
    3) They sector (& banks) are granted some exemption regarding data mining (most likely) & decreases the costs banks incur when offering credit, which then kills the buy now pay later advantage.

    In the end, the Australian banking cartel plays the long game & in my opinion will win.
    Could take 2 years though.

  37. JC

    Just had an eye test, do glasses improve IQ?.

    They make you look more intelligent at least and if you’re bling you can now see the IQ questions. Don’t go cheap on specs. Buy a decent pair.

  38. feelthebern

    Google & half a dozen other companies operating in Oz do that right now.

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Ontario’s provincial police service will no longer release the gender of people who are charged with crimes and those who are victims of crimes. The policy change comes following a review of legislation and the need to be more progressive, a spokesperson said.

    I don’t think that word means what you think it means

  40. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Infidel Tiger
    #3169015, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    Airport lounge: people filling beer glasses with wine. Hoovering food like they can make their plane ticket worth its price if they eat a slops bucket full.

    It’s evolution, baby!

  41. Zatara

    Just had an eye test, do glasses improve IQ?

    Depends on how cool the glasses are.

  42. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    Infidel Tiger
    #3169004, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    The danger with afterpay is that the whole company could be made illegal by parliament in very short order.

    You better believe that its competitors are working on that.

    Yeah, like how they booted BTC hard until Osko and XRP were up and running.

  43. feelthebern

    What’s your GF package costing IT?

  44. feelthebern

    Crypto is nothing like the buy now pay later sector.

  45. JC

    Bern

    You said algos are banned here for credit checks. Does that mean we don’t have credit scores?

  46. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    By fuck they are awful. Then we must take them down and bring back the Stuarts.

    You need to stop writing fetish porn for C.L.

    “England will be Catholic, Australians will convert en masse, the monarchy will be Catholic, Cdl Pell will be exonerated, released and made Pope & the streets will be paved with gold, rivers will flow with chocolate and choirs of children will sing on street corners…”

    The ramblings of a patriotic confused Fenian Empire Loyalist.

  47. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I understand that if you pay the debt schedule on time, you aren’t socked for interest penalty and can therefore buy the item at the price being sold in the store…. ( no credit card interest charges to carry the debt). But how many freaking people buy junk or want to buy junk on front end lay-buy system anyway and not simply use their credit cards?

    millennials who don’t like or have a credit card

  48. feelthebern

    Credit scoring in Oz for the big banks is operated via big registers & internal bank systems.
    That is US style credit scoring is derived & applied here in Oz.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    What’s your GF package costing IT?

    Thankfully I am a Member of the MCC and the RFC or I was looking at $3k plus just for tickets.

    Outrageous gouging. And the ACCC does nothing.

  50. JC

    That is US style credit scoring is derived & applied here in Oz.

    Okay then, but these scores would be obtained with the use of algos no.. (computer generated).

  51. JC

    millennials who don’t like or have a credit card

    Ah, got it.

  52. feelthebern

    Buy now pay later sector currently use illegal algo’s.
    It’s not meta data, but it’s in a similar vein.
    The clock is ticking on how long the sector can keep it on the down low.
    Keep in mind, that which is illegal today can be legal tomorrow with the stroke of a pen.
    And that is the long game the banks are playing.
    Imagine how bad debts (the biggest killer of profits after NIM) would drop if a bank could effectively metadata you.

  53. bespoke

    $300 * 2 JC long and short. No more teasing the wife is the worst part and nothing short of a total body transplant would make me look cool.

  54. feelthebern

    Ok, different kind of data mining & then algo’s.
    Banks use the big credit registers.
    Buy now pay later, effective meta data you.
    Both use algo’s (ok I’ll mis-spoke at the start), but the data comes from different sources.
    The banks are dying to have buy now pay later meta data style mining/algo.

  55. feelthebern

    NIM = net interest margin.

  56. JC

    Bespoke

    You always have to tease the wife. Sheilas love being teased and having practical jokes played on them. They just pretend to hate it. 🙂 Don’t ever stop.

  57. John Constantine:

    Tamworth, Dubbo, Orange, Warwick and Narromine are among the towns approaching ‘day zero’ water supply restrictions. AMIC has members operating processing facilities in each of these areas.

    It may be that these towns could function as a “wedge” for nuclear power. Set up a “trial” water reverse osmosis plant with several mini nukes as the power source. Then allow pricing to revitalise the towns by offering cheap power.
    Benefits are – cheaper power for the region, no longer using ‘fossil water’.
    Many others.

  58. feelthebern

    When the banking cartel in oz start using block chain & meta data, it will result in the one last hurrah for the banking sector.

  59. JC

    NIM = net interest margin.

    It’s made me hate those three letters. BoFA was a 45 buck stock until NIM began to reverse. Please don’t ever mention that again.

    I’m seriously giving thought to tipping out my US bank stocks from the never touch portfolio. If Grandma Pocahantas wins banks are all going to bankruptcy valuation on the day after the election.

  60. feelthebern

    I knew you knew that JC, just wanted everyone who didn’t to know without googling & ending up on some fvcked up website.

  61. Rex Mango

    Am thinking/dreaming Richmond not used to day matches, so won’t sleep tonight and wake up tomorrow for usual post Friday night recovery. GWS outta gates and at em, like last quarter of last quater. Cindarella story and GWS equal Port Power/St Kilda, while beating Fremantle in Flags.

  62. Rex Mango

    Big win for man buns too.

  63. JC

    Bern

    I don’t understand why US banks don’t charge negative interest on large deposits? I get why they can’t on small ones and that’s because people would begin to take cash out and store the couple of thousand in the draw.

    But Apple computer can’t store $US200 billion in cash in the draw. 🙂

  64. Armadillo

    Barnaby mentioned nuclear at the Chamber of Commerce meeting Mrs A attended earlier this week (mini nuke using pebble beds). It sounds like it’s on the radar.

    Business banking in Oz use spreadsheets to basically arrive at a “risk rating”.

    As for personal banking, they use credit scoring plus a form of lifestyle tracking (amongst other ratios and so on). For example, they ask for 12 months bank statements. They are looking at where you spend your money, and what you spend it on (I.e the pub/club or the supermarket/retail). That is done manually by the credit manager.

    You can see what Google and the tech companies are up to. The banking sector would be falling over themselves for the technology.

  65. calli

    Rex, I know that was English because I read words.

    I presume you are referring to an activity where an inflated pigskin and some kicking is involved?

  66. Rex Mango

    Calli, trying to work here, but can’t think of much else besides the game tomorrow, interest rates are interesting though.

  67. calli

    The two most beautiful words in the English language.

    Compound Interest.

  68. feelthebern

    Tim Cook is playing the best game possible.
    The only big tech who is genuinely welcome in the White House.
    He check his views at the door.
    He protects shareholders by ensuring Apple will skate through any DOJ action(s).

  69. Rex Mango

    Post match whatever the result, fans need to insist on maintaining the integrity of a day game. Much better for families and fans. No doubt the filthy Putsch masquarading as the AFL will try and move to twilight format.

  70. Johno

    You have to have a credit card to use afterpay

  71. Knuckle Dragger:

    We have not seen the last of this.
    Unfortunately, it would seem that one reason at least why this enquiry has taken the time it has is to ensure that the right arses are covered when the report – appropriately conforming to The Narrative – is released.

    …and they wonder why the average man in the street has no confidence in the institutions that manage our society.

  72. Rex Mango

    Also those same AFL fl-gbags are pushing for shorter games. That must likewise be resisted.

  73. Armadillo

    On a seperate matter, I’m surprised a bank hasn’t come up with a internet banking product linked to an accountancy product (e.g Pay your business bills via direct debit and the transaction automatically updates your accountancy software).

  74. feelthebern

    IT, does that mean you’ll be lining up at 6am to get a decent seat in the members?
    Or do you have an allocated seat?

  75. feelthebern

    Doesn’t Xero do that?

  76. feelthebern

    Will be interesting to see how many Sydney siders watch the game tomorrow.
    It’s got a clear run with the NRL not on until 7:50pm.

  77. Cassie of Sydney

    “Johno
    #3169072, posted on September 27, 2019 at 3:00 pm
    You have to have a credit card to use afterpay”

    Or a debit card.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    Maxine Waters: There’s ‘absolutely’ enough evidence to draft articles of impeachment against Trump
    Mad Max is back with a new head of steam.

  79. Johno

    The whole business model for Afterpay is silly. You get the goods on credit and then pay for them in four equal payments every two weeks. This is 56 days. If you use your credit card you are generally given 55 days interest free. This is designed to get low information and low credit score people to pay for goods they otherwise could not get.

  80. Rex Mango

    The whole argument for night games is TV dollars, but fact is so many people watch the day grand final in a pub, that the ratings are hard to measure. Also if your side wins, much better to celebrate for the whole day, than just a few hours to midnight.

  81. JC

    Johno

    It’s also useful for people who can’t be fucked trying to calculate the exact 55 days.

  82. feelthebern

    The NRL twilight GF works well.
    It’s usually on the same weekend as daylight savings begins.

  83. Rex Mango

    Calli, compound interest not as beautiful as a towering torpedo punt.

  84. Armadillo

    Or a debit card.

    The visa debit card came about because a mate of mine was constantly complaining that he couldn’t use his own money when buying shit, because a lot of the online stuff or over the phone was credit card only. Or filling in a form that asks for your credit card number for payment.

    He was a strange bastard in that respect – “No. I don’t want to use credit, I want to use my money”.

    Someone somewhere must have finally listened.

    [Disclaimer: I can’t say for sure it was him, but he was absolutely anal about the subject, and he would let every single person know about it, from bank employees to anyone who wanted a credit card number off him].

  85. feelthebern

    Afterpay & all the others in the sector have been successful as there was demand for their offering.
    Well done.
    But as per my above posts, in Australia, I view them as being cum a huge re-rating.
    Could take two years though.

  86. JC

    Also I don’t how you can get 55 interest free days on a credit card. You buy something on the next day of the beginning of the credit cycle. You then pay the minimum before the end of the cycle. From then on you get hit with interest.

  87. Rex Mango

    NRL night game is a shocker, not only does Sydney shut down at 1.30am, but it’s Sunday before a public holiday. Yes, you get the extra hour, but the antiquated licensing laws are worse than Utah. Back when there was a Kings Cross, you were stranded unable to get a cab, or drink and that was pre-lockout.

  88. johanna

    The vile Mitt Romney has been critical of Trump’s nothingburger phone call with the Ukrainian President, to the delight of CNN and the like.

    Well, lookee here:

    Well, this is certainly an odd coincidence! In fact, when you dig in, you find an amazing series of coincidences…if you believe in coincidences when the CIA is involved, that is.

    Mitt Romney’s national security adviser in his 2012 campaign — a career CIA spook who rose to its top levels — sits on the board of directors of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company that formerly paid Hunter Biden $50K a month despite his complete lack of credentials or qualifications.

    It is also an odd coincidence that Mitt has, as CNN puts it, “been a lone Republican voice expressing concern about President Donald Trump’s July phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump asked Ukraine’s President to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.”

    Still more oddly coincidental is the background of Mitt’s adviser deep in the CIA, part of the Intelligence Community that has “six ways from Sunday” in foiling a mere president who might oppose it, according to Chuck Schumer.

    The Burisma Board sure has some interesting members. Who knew that a Ukrainian gas outfit was in need of two totally unqualified, but well connected, Americans? And what a coincidence that both of them are anti-Trump?

    There has been a lot of focus on the FBI’s machinations, but the CIA is in it up to its unwashed neck as well.

    Trump is indeed up to his arse in alligators while trying to drain the swamp.

  89. Rex Mango

    I always figured Aussie Rules players were brighter than their league compatriats, sticking to a leather football for startes, but if the AFL follows them down the night GF path, I will be proven wrong.

  90. Johno

    I walk into Bunnings on the 1st of the month and buy something.End of the month I am billed and must pay within 25 days. 55 days interest free. All the major credit cards shout about 55 interest free days.

  91. Armadillo

    From then on you get hit with interest.

    Technically, if you pay it out in full, there is no interest.

    If everyone did that (which the majority don’t), it wouldn’t worry the bank too much. They charge an annual fee just for you to have it.

  92. JC

    I walk into Bunnings on the 1st of the month and buy something.End of the month I am billed and must pay within 25 days. 55 days interest free. All the major credit cards shout about 55 interest free days.

    Isn’t interest calculated on the unpaid balance shown on the statement at the end of the month?

  93. Johno

    However this only works when you have a zero balance at the beginning of the next cycle. If you have any balance owing all purchases are subject to interest.

    When loyalty points were introduced people would pay everything on the credit card, pay it in full before the end of the cycle and reap the loyalty points. every now and then they would leave a few dollars on the card and get whacked with an interest bill at the end.

  94. I always figured Aussie Rules players were brighter than their league compatriats, sticking to a leather football for startes, but if the AFL follows them down the night GF path, I will be proven wrong.

    I’d thought the AFL was actually leading the pussification contest, NRL being one of the last holdouts of masculinity in sport (yea yea yea, this is relative) in Australia.

  95. Johno

    Neighbour of mine did this, paid everything by credit card. Rates, car payments, electricity, everything. The loyalty points paid for a few holiday weekends etc.Then she left a few hundred dollars on the card and everything she racked up that month attracted interest.

  96. Rex Mango

    Yes indeed, the AFL doing it’s best to emasculate the sport, though they did outlaw the shoulder charge like 20years after League and Union.

  97. Mark A

    Johno
    #3169096, posted on September 27, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    I walk into Bunnings on the 1st of the month and buy something.End of the month I am billed and must pay within 25 days. 55 days interest free. All the major credit cards shout about 55 interest free days.

    Technically you are correct, in practice it would be hard to find 10% of people who care or know how to check the interest free start and end time.
    Not as simple as it sounds for most people.

  98. Johno

    I have a Visa card and it is kept in credit balance at all times. It works well, a $25,000 line o0f credit without a hassle.

  99. Rex Mango

    Another issue football supporters should take up is having those video screens at the MCG relocated to atop the roofing, thus freeing up around 5,000 extra seats. Have drawn up a design, just need Backyard Blitz or someone to get involved and complete the job.

  100. Johno

    Isn’t interest calculated on the unpaid balance shown on the statement at the end of the month?

    That’s right JC. But the trick is to keep a nil or credit balance. The mongrels will hit you up from day 1 if you don’t. And that is where they make their money.

  101. pete m

    We use credit cards and have the month balance paid in full by direct debit – have never been charged interest. Also both cards are annual fee free.

    We use the points for gift cards.

  102. Rex Mango

    The MCG video screens would be about 10 years old too, so about time they went down to Harvey Norman and upgraded to 4k OELD.

  103. Frank Walker from National Tiles

    For those who love to argue.

    Turn up the volume:

  104. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of NRL, Raiders fever, always simmering here in Canberra, is being ramped up to an embarrassing level by the people who run this town, now that the team has reached the preliminary finals.

    The Raiders were confected c.1980 by local commercial and political interests in the hope that a Canberra based First Grade League team based in the city would be to their advantage – one female Canberra politician allegedly got very close indeed to some of the players. Their introduction was accompanied by a strident semi-official support campaign based on the premise the anyone who didn’t barrack for the Raiders wasn’t a true Canberra and this line continues to be flogged at various levels of intensity.

    The team has received a great deal of ACT and before that Commonwealth government – i.e. taxpayer-funded – support over the years, both through various favourable deals and ‘partnerships’ over land and rates and through direct cash grants. Even though the Club now boasts a ‘financial empire’, it still get about $2 million pa in cash.

    Many prominent ex-manadrins patronise the Club, including Former Defence Secretary and Stakhanovite self promotor Allen Hawke and former ASIO chief Denis Richardson. These eminences tend in particular to be wheeled out to support players charged with public obscenity and/or violence, a fairly common occurrence here.

    I’m not a league supporter and have no interest in the code, but for the reasons above, I’m always hoping that the Raiders will be humiliatingly trounced in any match they play.

  105. Rex Mango

    With Steve Trickler from the AV Dept absent, shall take over his duties:

  106. thefrollickingmole

    feelthebern
    #3169032, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:23 pm
    In Australia, in my opinion, there are three outcomes with the buy now pay later sector.
    1) The sector will be regulated like the rest of the credit providers (huge growth impediment);
    2) The sector will come clean on the tech/algo’s & pledge to stop (kills the business model);
    3) They sector (& banks) are granted some exemption regarding data mining (most likely) & decreases the costs banks incur when offering credit, which then kills the buy now pay later advantage.

    In the end, the Australian banking cartel plays the long game & in my opinion will win.
    Could take 2 years though.

    My old business, belly up thanks to government changing the laws regarding credit provision, and a curious unwillingness of the courts to enforce contracts on rented/brought goods.

    The law change was brought in 2 years into the business, it dramatically shifted the onus of “can you pay” from the customer to me. In effect it made the magic words ‘I didnt know what i was signing” a loophole to void any contract instantly.

    Coupled with successful court actions against debtors, followed by the same courts not enforcing recovery.

    If its credit based the government will fuck it.
    If it isnt backed by deep pockets and a willingness to take a lot of court action against being strangled with compliance.

    Also there is a credit check agency available, but they only work on peoples negative credit scores, and the number of applications you have made over time,.
    From memory about $40 a search for each customer, if they havent changed their name/missed a letter etc.
    I think the mobs name was VEDA

  107. Rex Mango

    Canberra, being the bastard son of Melbourne, was always an Aussie Rules town, particularly with Menzies in charge. With the Raiders that all changed.

  108. JC

    That’s right JC. But the trick is to keep a nil or credit balance. The mongrels will hit you up from day 1 if you don’t. And that is where they make their money.

    Oh yea. I get the 55 thing now. Interest begins to accrue after due date shown on the last statement period.

    I always pay the balance at the end of the month.

  109. Rex Mango

    In the game of football chess circa 1980, Melbourne moved their rook to sydney, where it sat there and did nothing for 25 years, while Sydney’s pawn got easy pickings by gobbling up Canberra closer to home.

  110. cohenite

    The vile Mitt Romney has been critical of Trump’s nothingburger phone call with the Ukrainian President, to the delight of CNN and the like.

    Well, lookee here:

    Well, this is certainly an odd coincidence! In fact, when you dig in, you find an amazing series of coincidences…if you believe in coincidences when the CIA is involved, that is.

    Mitt Romney’s national security adviser in his 2012 campaign — a career CIA spook who rose to its top levels — sits on the board of directors of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company that formerly paid Hunter Biden $50K a month despite his complete lack of credentials or qualifications.

    It is also an odd coincidence that Mitt has, as CNN puts it, “been a lone Republican voice expressing concern about President Donald Trump’s July phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump asked Ukraine’s President to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family.”

    To call romney vile is to call Trump average.

    An interesting point amidst this Ukraine bullshit and the outrage from the demorat controlled house: where the fuck are the GOPs in the GOP controlled senate who have the same investigative powers as the house; why aren’t they up biden like the rats they are up a drain-pipe.

    I still think Trump is fighting his own side, if maybe not to the same extent he is fighting the demorats and their media slime.

  111. Rex Mango

    Tip for financial pundits out there, if Richmond tanking in the third quarter, get your money out of the Melbourne Tattoo Industry.

  112. Cassie of Sydney

    “I still think Trump is fighting his own side, if maybe not to the same extent he is fighting the demorats and their media slime.”

    He has been fighting the unholy trinity of RINO’s, Demrats and media scum since day one.

  113. classical_hero

    Caleb Hull did a mash up of a speech done by Severn Suzuki in the early 1990’s at the UN and basically the two speeches are very similar. It’s not surprising that the UN would use children for climate propaganda.

  114. Atoms for Peace

    Millenials also use Mummy and Daddy bank to bail them out of credit debt.

  115. areff

    Everyone wants in on the act:

    Australians’ retirement savings are tipped to fall by tens of thousands of dollars due to the impact of climate change, according to new research by the Actuaries Institute.

    If you’re due to retire after 2030, no worries. You’ll be dead along with the planet.

  116. Atoms for Peace

    Try increasing your bank credit card limits these days. Documents to the max. Just waiting for DNA and urine tests. Pissed my wife off no end recently when she handled the same docs 3 plus times because the chump at the bank was hopeless. The bank also are very susceptible to GIGO. Btw always pays in full and on a blood y good wicket.

  117. cohenite

    Apparently the Ukraine whistle-blower is being represented by a demorat law firm which advertises for gov’t employees with dirt on Trump to come forward and get paid for it.

  118. cohenite

    Robert Gottliebsen The Australian September 27, 2019 (not paywalled)

    We need to stop lecturing China and maybe join the Belt and Road project.

  119. Boambee John

    Atoms

    Try increasing your bank credit card limits these days.

    A few years ago, we would regularly receive letters offering an increased limit.

    Thinking back, they probably died off around the GFC.

  120. Atoms for Peace

    Areff. Has Greta’s rant affected 15 year Aus Gov Bonds? What about Swedish bonds? As a total aside, Sweden went from good porn to ABBA to gamma male to imported alpha males and now cold gimlet eyed scolds. I’ll suss em out when up north seeing Santa this year. God bless Finland.

  121. The Beer Whisperer

    JC
    #3169065, posted on September 27, 2019 at 2:53 pm
    Bern

    I don’t understand why US banks don’t charge negative interest on large deposits?

    They already do here in Oz. It just goes by the euphemism “account keeping fees”. And they do it on small deposits. Especially small deposits.

  122. cohenite

    Aoc is an alien; if her eyes get any bigger they’ll have their own gravitational field.

    Watching this Ukraine crap and I reckon you’d be struggling to name a sane demorat.

  123. Grand final fizzer coming up.

    The margin will be 7 goals.

  124. The Beer Whisperer

    Rex Mango
    #3169074, posted on September 27, 2019 at 3:01 pm
    Also those same AFL fl-gbags are pushing for shorter games. That must likewise be resisted.

    AFL rates lower than the NRL generally on a per-minute basis. The only reason it earns more is because the games are longer.

    These people are weapons grade stupid.

  125. calli

    why aren’t they up biden like the rats they are up a drain-pipe.

    Possibly because they’ve been where Biden’s been too.

    You don’t get this much immunity without the negatives (or equivalent).

    Swamp indeed.

  126. thefrollickingmole

    AFL rates lower than the NRL generally on a per-minute basis. The only reason it earns more is because the games are longer.

    Based on that criteria the single most highly rated movie of all time is Sharon Stones leg crossing scene in basic instinct.
    The most “highly rated” 5 seconds of footage evah!!!

  127. Mark from Melbourne

    Grand final fizzer coming up.

    The margin will be 7 goals.

    In your dreams.

    It will eclipse my boys’ obliteration of Port in 2007. 100 points and plenty of change.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    If you’re due to retire after 2030, no worries. You’ll be dead along with the planet.

    Depends on which apocalypse.
    Sometime in 2029 or 2030 is a neat two millenia after the Crucifixion.
    Which could mean a fate worse than death for the climate fraudsters…

    (On the other hand Deut 7:9 suggests we might have to wait until about 16,600AD plus or minus several thousand years. You takes your ticketses and you wins your prizeses.)

  129. calli

    Here’s a tale to lift the spirits.

    My lovely BIL has been desperately ill for many, many years. He’s had surgery and drugs and radiation and the kitchen sink thrown at him to combat a hideous, aggressive cancer. Several years back, in the darkest days pre surgery, he said all he wanted was to live to see his youngest finish high school.

    Today my nephew finished his last day, pre HSC.

    And my BIL is cancer free, for now.

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    On the other hand maybe that Maya calendar thing was out by a decade, which would make 2022 entertaining.

    List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events (wiki)

    Next bus comes along in 2020 from some lady called Jeane Dixon, a dead psychic astrologer. Interestingly Greta’s date doesn’t make the list. I wonder if that’s the wiki kiddies being coy?

  131. areff

    GWS will win. Margin: under 19 points

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    Excellent, calli.

    Not nearly enough of it.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    And climate prophets seem at least as inaccurate as the sundry prognosticators of Armageddon.

    50 Years of Failed Global Warming Doomsday Predictions (19 Sep)

  134. calli

    I thought I’d do a Good News Friday post.

    Too much doom and gloom.

    And there’ll be lots more again tomorrow.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All good wishes, calli.

  136. calli

    I’d go over and comment at CL’s thread, but it’s been taken over by the “I’m a bigger Conservative than you” Tag Team.

    Also, there’s so much low wattage over there that I’m worried my iPad’s battery will disintegrate when I press “send”.

  137. Atoms for Peace

    Maybe Greta is Jesus and waiting for the 12th Imam.

  138. Top Ender

    Nicely done Calli.

    Or should I say, BZ.

    Pray tell, what is BIL?

  139. P

    Some words taken from one of my favourite hymns:

    All the way my Savior leads me;
    What have I to ask beside?
    Can I doubt His tender mercy,
    Who through life has been my Guide?

    When my spirit, clothed immortal,
    Wings its flight to realms of day,
    This my song through endless ages:
    Jesus led me all the way.

  140. max

    Rex Mango
    #3169086, posted on September 27, 2019 at 3:11 pm
    Calli, compound interest not as beautiful as a towering torpedo punt.

    LOL.
    Rex, you should go to MCG tomorrow in the morning, pre game.

    There’s a scaffold tower there for blokes to climb up to a platform and dob a torp into a giant GF Cup. Like scoring a hole in one.

    The clientele prove you’re never too old.

  141. calli

    Brother in law (the Beloved still sees him as his little brother).

  142. calli

    I love the old hymns. And, oddly enough when they’re sung in between what I call “songs” at church, they’re belted out with great gusto.

    Nothing beats the big pipe organ though. All the stops out, natch.

  143. The Sheriff

    https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/sacked-by-text-for-not-being-asian/3840900/

    So even in Wagga Wagga, locals are being fired by Chinese locusts for not being Chinese and not speaking Mandarin. When will Aussies wake up and stop importing these racist infiltrators?

  144. Armadillo

    I thought I’d do a Good News Friday post.

    It’s only gets messy from here on in. It’s blokes night at the Cat.

  145. Roger

    50 Years of Failed Global Warming Doomsday Predictions

    They’ve got 11 years to get their act together!

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    Indeed, Dillo.

    Two hours or so at the rubbidy should prime a gent up nicely.

  147. Armadillo

    Disturbing news from Mrs A. We are all already being tracked by the banks via your transactions. And “Yes”, it’s automated. Credit managers are watching your every move.

  148. calli

    The science is settled, roger.

    And that was five years ago.

  149. areff

    How the ABC chooses to frame things:

    On the other side, ranking Republican and former dairy farmer Devin Nunes attempted to dismiss the entire Ukraine scandal as a media conspiracy, similar to the Steele dossier with its still-unproven allegations about golden showers.

    Not “refuted”, not “discredited” but “still unproven”.

  150. Roger

    The science is settled, roger.

    Funny how apocalyptic unbelievers have been over the last several decades, going back to Ehrlich.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    On pubs and fiscal matters:

    The paywalled Currant Bun is reporting that millennial scum are boycotting the age-old tradition of shouting in pubs.

    Excuses (not explanations) include ‘I pay via card and I lose count of how much I spent’ and ‘it’s really hard to go around later and get cash off your mates.’

    Presented without further comment.

    This bastard country.

  152. Rex Mango

    Max, would love to get near the game tomorrow, but am in the wrong city. Have organised my designated drinking hole tomorrow and am taking along an Indian bloke who is a sporting agnostic to evangelise the one true holy and apostolic code of football. While not supporting either side, Grand Finals are great fun as you get to yell in public houses. They are also like fighting the Japs in New Guinea, in that come the last quarter, you don’t take prisoners. With your side winning you get to heap abuse on opposition fans completely immune from reply.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3169190, posted on September 27, 2019 at 5:17 pm”

    Wonderful news Calli.

  154. Rex Mango

    KD, secret to the shout is to get in early when only 3, or so people, then quietly scarper as the crowd grows.

  155. Roger

    Today my nephew finished his last day, pre HSC.

    And my BIL is cancer free, for now.

    Good news!

    There should be more of it.

    Too much dloom and goom about today.

  156. Rex Mango

    Boutique beers, which Millennials drink also harms the shout as everyone chooses the most expensive variety.

  157. MatrixTransform

    I gave up on ANZ when taking a mortgage a couple a years ago.

    recently tried transferring the ANZ Visa to Bank Aust … o.m.f.g … I needed more docco to do that that to get the mortgage in first place.

    gave up on that and decided to up the Galt stakes.

    everything in the black now

  158. Mitch M.

    And my BIL is cancer free, for now.

    Great news Calli.

  159. MatrixTransform

    This bastard country.

    Dont leave yr change on the bar and go to the dunny

  160. Tintarella di Luna

    everything in the black now

    . Well done

  161. Roger

    everything in the black now

    I have a debit card for the occasional electronic transaction that can’t be gotten around.

    Cash for everything else.

    I won’t have a bank keeping tabs on my life, thank you.

  162. Rex Mango

    ABC RN Drive just discussing weeks news. Topic is Greta and they have two guests. First guest said he doesn’t respond well to apocalyptic end of world claims. Almost fell over.

  163. MatrixTransform

    Thanks mate.
    I been doing it with the company now for years but didn’t take as much care with the personal.

    Interestingly what started out as a 18% Visa has become something like a 23% Visa.
    The tossers sent me a notice the other day.
    Visa creep

    I dont think they like me much

  164. Roger

    ABC RN Drive just discussing weeks news. Topic is Greta and they have two guests. First guest said he doesn’t respond well to apocalyptic end of world claims. Almost fell over.

    Bet he won’t be invited back.

  165. Tintarella di Luna

    Is Trump still President? Been in court all day on a monumental waste of taxpayers resources all on the word of an upherself, ‘she who must be believed because vagina’ white privileged bitch of first order and the two stupid bint police officers and the two more tag-alongs who arrested our client — all day over $100 — yep over $100.00 – Case dismissed.

    I must say just to be sure I went to mass this morning in the church George Pell’s former parish, St Mary’s Cathedral. My prayer was we’d get a male magistrate who knew what beyond reasonable doubt means and that the case would be dismissed. 100% result not bad. Am going to mass again tomorrow morning to give thanks. Really funny thing is our client is a Muslim but he did appreciate my efforts on his behalf.

  166. Tintarella di Luna

    And my BIL is cancer free, for now.

    one more positive for the day, can’t have too much winning, so giving thanks for all the comes along.

  167. Rex Mango

    On the topic of credit card rates, a certain bank has a picture of me in their boardroom thanks to my two decade plus maintenance of maxed out cards.

  168. DrBeauGan

    Why do big institutions do everything they can to turn their front line staff into mindless robots? I’ve been trying to get tellers at the commonwealth Bank to understand that I can’t get in touch with the branch from Cuba because the.only way they’ll allow it is by a telephone call. Given the twelve hour time difference and the Cuban telephone system, this is impractical. Someone has assumed that the telephone system in Cuba is like ours, and it isn’t. So I want to be able to email a human being at my branch. No, it can’t be done. I know it can’t be done. How do I change that? It can’t be changed.

    They keep telling me what the rules are, and I keep telling them the rules need to be changed. This is unthinkable, so they tell me what the rules are again. I’ve had more fun talking to a robot phone which gives me six choices, none of which I want.

    When did turning staff into robots come in? Is it so they can get away with hiring morons because morons come cheaper? Or are morons the only ones willing to do the jobs?

  169. MatrixTransform

    Tripolye ‘mega-structures’ were ancient community centers

    our interdisciplinary study detected one reason for their collapse: a social imbalance in decision processes led to

    …archaeologists and linguists have determined that after examining a fat blue-haired lesbian mummy that the cause was actually pronouns

  170. Tintarella di Luna

    On the topic of credit card rates, a certain bank has a picture of me in their boardroom thanks to my two decade plus maintenance of maxed out cards.

    Righteous Rex – 😉

  171. Rex Mango

    Ian Hankey was the bloke on RN dissing Greta, however Patricia K back announced him with the leper’s bell by explaining he has worked for the liberal party in the past.

    Calli, great news about BIL, but it must be tempered by the fact we all have only 7 more years at most.

  172. MatrixTransform

    Or are morons the only ones willing to do the jobs?

    you know the call centres are full of Arts Grads dontcha?

  173. jupes

    Or are morons the only ones willing to do the jobs?

    It’s amazing. I would say well over 75% of staff in the service industry have no idea what their company’s policies are. Call to inquire about something and chances are you will get a numpty.

  174. Armadillo

    recently tried transferring the ANZ Visa to Bank Aust … o.m.f.g … I needed more docco to do that that to get the mortgage in first place.

    Banking Royal Commission. The politicians fell for this big time.

    It will ultimately tie the flow of capital in red tape. It was the most harmful thing to this economy ever.

  175. Tintarella di Luna

    Jane Caro: The Church Is Finally Losing Its Grip On Births, Deaths And Marriages

    She argues in that piece that in opposing abortion the Church is in effect ‘controlling women’ via their uterus. This is like arguing that opposition to murder ‘controls hands’. It’s very hard to be charitable when confronted with this sort of reasoning.

    Hi dover_beach, you have to be charitable if you remember that Jane was educated at the former dairy farm turned University Macquarie Uni the smell of cowpats badly affected her to the extent that we now see on display.

  176. Rex Mango

    Big story on ABC RN tonight is Catholic Church paying out millions to settle case with a Risdale victim and stating hundreds of other cases in pipeline. Coincidence that they slotted Pell?

  177. Armadillo

    As far as “shouts” go. It’s an age old agreement. If the late comers want to “bust in” on a shout, tell them to get stuffed. Find someone else to get in a shout with, or buy their own.

  178. Rex Mango

    Dover already sent the B52’s downtown to Jane Caro earlier in thread.

  179. Mitch M.

    When did turning staff into robots come in? Is it so they can get away with hiring morons because morons come cheaper? Or are morons the only ones willing to do the jobs?

    They don’t have a choice. Front line staff typically can’t exercise initiative, they follow the rules or are walked out the door.

    Have you thought about paypal? Payments can made to individuals through a paypal account.

  180. Roger

    They don’t have a choice. Front line staff typically can’t exercise initiative, they follow the rules or are walked out the door.

    Yes; they’re just trying to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.

    Take your complaint up the line.

  181. Rex Mango

    NSW Responsbile Service of Alcohol legislation will soon make shouts illegal, as shots have been. Their is some weird prejudice against drinking out of small glasses.

  182. cohenite

    I don’t know what you do with people like this:

    Commonwealth Government floods forests in midst of drought

    Peter Hunt The Weekly Times September 25, 2019

    Forrests are being flooded as the Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder flushes 400,000 megalitres down the Murray River, des­pite the basin suffering its worst drought on record. Bureau of Meteorology maps show that for the second year running rainfall run-off across the basin’s southern alps, which deliver 70-80 per cent of the basin’s inflows, are “very much below average” with large parts sitting in the “lowest 1 per cent” of years.

    Southern basin irrigators are incensed that while they are yet to receive any allocation in the NSW Murray and have gained allocations of just 35 per cent in Victoria, the CEWH has opened regulators and turned on pumps to flood the Edward-Wakool, Barmah-Millewa and Gunbower-Koondrook-Pericoota forests, Lake Kramen (Vic Hattah-Kulkyne Lakes complex) and wetlands in Chowilla and Lower Lakes.

    “It’s crazy,” Wakool irrigator John Lolicato said. “Here we are heading into one of the worst droughts and they’re pushing water out on to the floodplains.

    “We’re sending all the wrong signals to our native wildlife, when there’s going to be no follow up.”

    But Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder Jody Swirepik’s office is forging ahead with pushing close to 400,000ML of the water she holds in the Murray, Goulburn and Murrumbidgee storages into the southern basin’s forests and wetlands, despite evidence they were unlikely to have been flooded under current conditions….

    Jody.

  183. Rex Mango

    Bloke on ABC RN now saying climate deniers will take on Greta, but they won’t take on David Attenborough. What makes Attenborough so special? He flies in business class, does a 5min voice to camera and jets out, after his team has been filming an orangutang in the jungle for 6months, or so.

  184. DrBeauGan

    you know the call centres are full of Arts Grads dontcha?

    These people are several grades below contemporary arts graduates, hard though that is to believe, matrix.

  185. Rex Mango

    Call Centres are full of Arts Grads and the Paramedics is where Personal Trainers go to die.

  186. DrBeauGan

    . Have you thought about paypal? Payments can made to individuals through a paypal account.

    Not in Cuba. Nothing US is allowed to operate in Cuba. That’s the US state department, not the Cuban government, Mitch.

  187. jupes

    Bloke on ABC RN now saying climate deniers will take on Greta, but they won’t take on David Attenborough.

    When actually it is David Attenborough who won’t “take on” any skeptics.

  188. Calli:

    Nothing beats the big pipe organ though. All the stops out, natch.

    Phrasing please, Calli.

  189. Rex Mango

    The loon on RN then continued with a rave about Greta, saying long history of young girls about her age changing the world, which included Joan of Arc, Anne Frank and a few others, which I didn’t hear as laughing too much. Certainly got Greta in good company.

  190. cohenite

    From the fun filled world of RoP, an alcohol theme ;

    Mozambique: RoP murder 10 people among a group who were drinking alcohol, behead two farmers

    Nigeria: Kano State, which enforces Sh.ria, destroys 196,400 bottles of beer

    Captain Morgan rum website asks visitors to confirm they are non-RoP

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/

  191. max

    A million dollars for being abused ? WTF ?

  192. DrBeauGan

    Nothing US is allowed to operate in Cuba.

    That’s not quite true. Western Union is in Cuba. They can transfer money from the US to Cuba, but only between relatives. And they can’t transfer money from Australia. The Australian government won’t let them. If a Cuban emigrates to the US they can send money to their rellies in Cuba. If they emigrated to Oz, they can’t. Our government is happy to kiss the US state department’s arse and sod the people of Cuba.

  193. max

    But ‘it’s not about the money.’ Sure. Viv Waller is on a great little earner there.

  194. Rex Mango

    Yes, there is a part of the world that doesn’t drink alcohol and they are constantly at war with each other.

  195. Gab

    Jane Caro: The Church Is Finally Losing Its Grip On Births, Deaths And Marriages

    What Jane Caro knows about the Church could fit on the ass of a blowfly.

  196. Mitch M.

    BG,

    I checked, paypal not available though it was going to be in 1916 but something happened. These sites might help

    https://www.top10moneytransfer.com/send-money-online-au-lo/

    https://www.sendvalu.com/en/send-money-to-cuba

  197. Caveman

    Perfect conditions, Canberra vs Souths this should be a good game tonight. I’ve thought Canberra the dark horse to take out the premiership.

  198. jupes

    The loon on RN then continued with a rave about Greta, saying long history of young girls about her age changing the world, which included Joan of Arc, Anne Frank and a few others, which I didn’t hear as laughing too much. Certainly got Greta in good company.

    Joan of Arc hardly “changed the world”. Nor did Anne Frank.

    Greta is currently getting a tad more than her allotted 15 minutes of fame but she will soon be come an embarrassment and be dumped by the evil bastards who put her in this position. My prediction is that her life will end in tears. Nothing good can come of this.

  199. Rex Mango

    The advertisement of Johnny Depp driving a muscle car through the desert and coming across a bison, to then dig a hole and bury stuff is bizarre. How does that get people to buy aftershave?

  200. MatrixTransform

    I dunno Dr BG, I hear what yr saying but reckon yr being too generous
    we do a lot of work for in a building occupied by one of the big 4.
    Lotsa call centre stuff goes on there and from what I can tell by overhearing convs is that theyre generally graduates … the team leaders … they’re Commerce Grads

  201. candy

    I bet Jane Caro is an atheist. It always seems atheists feel they have the most decided and thorough knowledge of Christianity above anyone who actually believes in God, and especially they hate Catholics.

    Apparently she received an Order of Aust. or whatever it is just recently, for services to broadcasting. ?

    Those awards are so ridiculous now. Louise Milligan will have one next, I am sure for services to getting Cardinal Pell imprisoned.

  202. Armadillo

    Our government is happy to kiss the US state department’s arse and sod the people of Cuba.

    Doc has officially been indoctrinated.

  203. Rex Mango

    The advertisement for New Love Island Australia which starts 7 October, is quite eye catching.

  204. Rex Mango

    I thought Obarrassment had lifted the Cuba embargo.

  205. Armadillo

    Doc, if you sincerely want to help the hooker and her kid, post them an AK47.

  206. Roger

    I don’t know what you do with people like this

    Subject their domestic water supply to envirenmental flow requirements on a pro rata basis.

    Being such staunch advocvates for the environment they couldn’t possibly object.

    And charge them for it.

  207. MatrixTransform

    Love Island Australia

    My son’s best mate from high school was on that.

    He’s no Rocket Surgeon but he’s got the looks

  208. Rex Mango

    Max, Catholic Church has about the biggest property portfolio in the country and those ambulance chasing law firms will be salivating at prospect of these payouts.

  209. Muddy

    Worth Saving.

    I’m a bit slow with this, as it’s been available since May this year, but via Sydney Watson (don’t judge me)… a decent ad that celebrates men. Only about 1 minute in length.
    Noice.

  210. John Constantine

    https://www.npr.org/2012/01/22/145468366/cultural-revolution-cookbook-a-taste-of-humanity

    This was a particularly popular dish during the Cultural Revolution because it did not require oil, which was strictly rationed, and because portions could be increased by dilution so that adding more water meant feeding more people.

    Their australian left are hellbent upon imposing centrally planned food rationing for the dissenting proletariat. Fat/salt/sugar/meat/tobacco/booze/gmo/coffee/panadol are all too good for the teeming lower classes.

    During extended crackdowns such as the fever-pitched early 1970s, a chicken in your yard could earn you public humiliation and even a “struggle session,” in which you could be dragged up on stage in front of a large crowd and denounced.

    Their australian left are also rather keenly imagining the day that ‘struggle sessions’ are no longer just for one sole Tory at a time on their abc Q and A, but are for all dissenters.

    During the Cultural Revolution, people were often accused of offenses, from stealing or engaging in extramarital affairs to slacking off or having “bad thoughts.” Meetings of village production teams were forums for dispute resolution where people were often compelled to criticize themselves or defend themselves against such accusations. A good defense was to proclaim one’s loyalty and demonstrate knowledge of communist doctrine, with whatever rhetorical flourishes one could muster.

  211. Zyconoclast

    Prince Harry follows in his mother Princes Diana’s footsteps as he dons body armour to recreate her famous walk through a partially-cleared minefield in Angola.

    Totally idiotic

    Do not despair.
    There is hope he will continue this trend by wearing a dress and taking a high speed drive through a Parisian tunnel.

  212. Rex Mango

    Thanks Muddy, it is good, but g-y warning required for 16sec mark

  213. dover_beach

    What Jane Caro knows about the Church could fit on the ass of a blowfly.

    Always charitable, our Gab.

  214. Rex Mango

    Zycon, thanaks cracked me up – gotta go to pub now

  215. bespoke

    Doc, if you sincerely want to help the hooker and her kid, post them an AK47.

    Sure and post Arky a sheep.

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There is hope he will continue this trend by wearing a dress and taking a high speed drive through a Parisian tunnel.

    With a driver who may – or may not – have been drunk and the only survivor the only one who was wearing a seat belt.

  217. candy

    Prince Harry follows in his mother Princes Diana’s footsteps as he dons body armour to recreate her famous walk through a partially-cleared minefield in Angola.

    Probably he and Mrs Harry would prefer to stand beside Greta and also support impeachment of Trump. But they can’t unless they abdicate their positions and financial support and go it alone.
    He has a wife and child but he must be hankering for a proper job, as a healthy young man.

  218. C.L.

    Jane Caro: The Church Is Finally Losing Its Grip On Births, Deaths And Marriages

    Why the groaned “finally”?
    What a sour dickhead.

  219. Armadillo

    Harry is the new climate change warrior that wore a NAZI uniform to a party and had his pants around his ankles playing pool?

    Same dude? Yes?

  220. Zyconoclast

    https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/sacked-by-text-for-not-being-asian/3840900/

    So even in Wagga Wagga, locals are being fired by Chinese locusts for not being Chinese and not speaking Mandarin. When will Aussies wake up and stop importing these racist infiltrators?

    I note that the northern star.com.au did not have any issues with employing Frank Chung to write the story.

  221. Old Lefty

    Just to update John Constantine: the cultural revolution in Comrade Andrews’ Yarragrad will not stigmatise extramarital hanky panky, but make it compulsory.

  222. Old Lefty

    I have family who have lived around Lismore, where the Northern Star is published, for generations, Zyconoclast. All through the years of White Australia, racism, genocide etc etc, Kwong Sing’s grocery store was a mainstay of the town: my Anglo-Hibernian ancestors used to shop there regularly for decades before multiculturalism became chic. So the choice of Mr Chung as a reporter is no surprise.

  223. Just to update John Constantine: the cultural revolution in Comrade Andrews’ Yarragrad will not stigmatise extramarital hanky panky, but make it compulsory.

    Whistleblowers have revealed the law on compulsory extramarital hanky pankie will be M2M or F2F only.

  224. bespoke

    calli
    #3169190, posted on September 27, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    Here’s a tale to lift the spirits.
    My lovely BIL has been desperately ill for many, many years. He’s had surgery and drugs and radiation and the kitchen sink thrown at him to combat a hideous, aggressive cancer. Several years back, in the darkest days pre surgery, he said all he wanted was to live to see his youngest finish high school.
    Today my nephew finished his last day, pre HSC.
    And my BIL is cancer free, for now.

    I thought I’d do a Good News Friday post.

    Thank you.

  225. Percy Popinjay

    A good defense was to proclaim one’s loyalty and demonstrate knowledge of communist doctrine, with whatever rhetorical flourishes one could muster.

    That’s 91.3% of our beloved braindead lamestream meeja commentariat safe and secure in their kolkhoz of an evening.

    Tovarisch.

  226. Armadillo

    I was wondering who “owns” the novel by George Orwell – 1984.

    The answer is this….

    In the case of Nineteen Eighty-Four, the United Kingdom is considered the country of origin and its copyright period extends until the first day of January following 70 years after the death of the author. George Orwell, the novel’s author, died in 1950[25] so the novel enters the public domain, on 1 January 2021.

    Incidentally, in the US it extends to 95 years after the authors death.

  227. Percy Popinjay

    who “owns” the novel by George Orwell – 1984

    Collectivists, who are busy utilising it as an instruction manual.

  228. Top Ender

    Prince Harry’s “body armour” and “visor” wouldn’t save him from a very very small landmine made by midgets with tiny brains.

    As if there’s anything resembling an explosive there!

    About as convincing as hi-vis on a politician.

    Given he would know that, why does he go through with the charade.

    Presumably because most of the world is convinced he’s doing something good.

    They do say you get the government you deserve.

    Time for a red wine with ice. You Southerners wouldn’t understand.

  229. DrBeauGan

    Mitch M.
    #3169288, posted on September 27, 2019 at 7:33 pm
    BG,

    I checked, paypal not available though it was going to be in 1916 but something happened. These sites might help

    https://www.top10moneytransfer.com/send-money-online-au-lo/

    https://www.sendvalu.com/en/send-money-to-cuba

    None of them work from Australia, Mitch. Europe, yes.

    The main reason I have for sending money to Cuba is so Maria can post me cigars. I explained to her today that if she wants to fool me into thinking she cares for me rather than my money, she mustn’t be too greedy. This is the fish telling the angler what bait to use.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Prince Harry’s “body armour” and “visor” wouldn’t save him from a very very small landmine made by midgets with tiny brains.

    I did notice the absence of the “blast proof” boots…

  231. Armadillo

    I did notice the absence of the “blast proof” boots…

    He might as well have been wearing a pair of thongs. Or high heels.

    It’s absolutely absurd. He knows it. Every one around him knows it.

    What a deceitful bunch of arsehats our betters are. Reminds me of Rudd and the porpoise landing in Afghanistan. Now these arsehats are gunning for our most decorated soldier. FMD.

  232. Gab

    Doc, if you sincerely want to help the hooker and her kid, post them an AK47.

    Sure and post Arky a sheep.

    Better yet, post Arky to Cuba. 😀

  233. Zyconoclast

    Prince Harry’s “body armour” and “visor” wouldn’t save him from a very very small landmine made by midgets with tiny brains.

    I did notice the absence of the “blast proof” boots…

    In his case, groin protection option was not needed.

  234. Armadillo

    Developing nation china opens world’s biggest airport:

    For those without Spacechook, it’s been on the BBC website for a few days.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49750182

  235. 2dogs

    Greta is currently getting a tad more than her allotted 15 minutes of fame but she will soon be come an embarrassment and be dumped by the evil bastards who put her in this position. My prediction is that her life will end in tears. Nothing good can come of this.

    She is just the latest in a line of teenage girls that have done the same, starting with Severn Cullis-Suzuki in 1992. A new one is brought forward every five years or so. Their speeches to the UN or COP are all quite similar.

    It is a launching board for a life long career as an activist, which can be quite lucrative for the ones at the very top. It is like movie acting – hard field to get into as a professional, but once you make it, big bucks.

    It is bad for politics that activism has become a profession. I think the first step to remedying this situation is a disclosure regime – those organisations that pay activists must disclose the payments. As this would activate a downstream risk of vicarious liability, payer organisations would become a lot more careful about this stuff.

  236. Mitch M.

    None of them work from Australia, Mitch. Europe, yes.

    Bloody DFAT. What nonsense to alienate a country in the hope of making its people think well of those outside it.

  237. Armadillo

    Better yet, post Arky to Cuba. 😀

    He would have the most modern car in Havana.

  238. cohenite

    No need to wonder what went wrong with Australia; this 1970 short video about Newcastle shows the industries we have lost: BHP steel, Bradmills, Oak, Rundles, Tooheys etc; all gone.

  239. Bruce of Newcastle

    It is a launching board for a life long career as an activist, which can be quite lucrative for the ones at the very top.

    Greta has already been awarded a $100,000 prize.
    And is odds on for the Nobel you’d think.
    Likey to be a millionaire at 17.

  240. notafan

    Aren’t the sactions on Cuba like those any on totalitarian regimes that deny basic human rights, like freedom of speech, the imprisonment of political opponents, the mantainance of a massive internal spy network to keep everyone in line etc.

    People seem to be pretending that Cuba is a pretty version of communism.

    It isn’t.

    The US doesn’t have to facilitate communism.

    Cuba can rely on its friend in Russia, China and Venezuela for money stuff.

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