Tuesday Forum: October 8, 2019

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  1. A Lurker

    Q. Expecting a bit of a financial windfall coming through in the next 18 months. Want to invest but unsure what is the best option for generating reliable income? Real Estate? Commercial real estate? Shares? Bank term deposits? Superannuation? Under the mattress?

    Not interested in specifics, just general feedback is all.

  2. bespoke

    Want to invest but unsure what is the best option for generating reliable income?

    Bluetooth Glasses.

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Your words Lizzie have become just words nothing more.

    No, Bespoke, they do actually mean something. Don’t worry about it though.
    Let’s just concentrate on the aspect of trying to understand each other.
    Dropping hostility for hostility’s sake is a start; I’m not that bad.

    Why I might even teach you some grammar one day. You’re not actually dumb.
    Spelling’s a doddle, just use a spell checker. Use one that offers a red line if you are wrong.
    Actually those Grammerly programs can help too. 🙂

    Gotta go.

  4. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wonder what Tim Wilson thinks. Voltaire and all that.

    Look, in my opinion, the solution is obvious.

    In honour of None’s heroic stand against Male Mankini Patriarchy, I propose that from now on Thursdays are known as
    “Tits Out For Tim Wilson Thursdays”
    in tribute to her brave and principled protest for All Women.

    Who is with me?

    😁

  5. MatrixTransform

    Just keep feeling cross at your ex.

    seems like just yesterday that None would have said something just like that.

    For somebody who reckons theyre a wiz with words, you seem pretty clueless right now.

    Dont play semantic games

    Its unbecoming

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lurker – NOT bank term deposits – the interest rates are a joke.

  7. Nob

    Cassie –
    What’s a minyan?
    Is it fun?
    Tasty?

  8. Muddy

    Is there any truth to the rumour that Pirate Pete is writing a biography of our our own Prof. Sinc?

  9. Did someone mention breasts?
    I give you Eccentrica Galumbits -the Triple Breasted Whore of Eroticon 6!

  10. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Bank term deposits? Superannuation? Under the mattress?

    Wine, women and song, plus a few bets on the gee gees.
    Then you can squander the rest knowing you’ve done the right thing.

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dont play semantic games

    I’m not. You were the one where comprehension let you down.
    I was simply pointing that out.
    As I’ve just said to Bespoke, don’t worry about it.

    Stimpy – I don’t think much of that suggestion.
    Giss another one, good lad. Condescending I know, but think of it this way.
    If you are a lad, you’ll still have hair. 🙂

  12. calli

    Another RoP IS numpty goes all stabby in Indonesia.

  13. bespoke

    It’s not hostility Lizzie just disappointment .

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I give you Eccentrica Galumbits -the Triple Breasted Whore of Eroticon 6!

    Useful for breastfeeding triplets.

  15. MatrixTransform

    If you are a lad, you’ll still have hair.

    list of male voices that have it all wrong.
    and a swipe at fragile masculinity

    nice pony you have there

  16. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Useful for breastfeeding triplets.

    Also great for those of us with two hands, who can also lick the tip of their nose.

  17. MatrixTransform

    must be a one trick pony

  18. Nob

    zyconoclast
    #3180383, posted on October 10, 2019 at 3:46 pm
    Lessons from Australia’s original water industry

    The modern historian sector could learn a lot from Australia’s traditional owners, who have been hunting and fishing and inventing histories for the past 30, er.. 40, er ..50, er … 60, … do I have any advance on 60,000? years .

  19. zyconoclast

    12 Asylum-Seekers Julián Castro Escorted To The U.S. Border Sent Back To Mexico

    Democratic presidential candidate Julián Castro knew he had to do something when he heard what was happening to LGBTQ and disabled asylum-seekers at the border.

    Castro walked with the group and their lawyers across the international bridge and asked Customs and Border Protection to allow them in, claiming an exemption to the MPP because of their status.

    Hours later, CBP released the asylum-seekers back into Mexico, according to the Texas Civil Rights Project.
    “This is a brutal blow to due process. These 12 people have been in CBP custody for 3 hours, which means that each person had less than 15 minutes for their non-refoulement interviews,” the group tweeted in a statement.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    do I have any advance on 60,000? years .

    It’s actually up to 80,000 years.

  21. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    “Stranger Things” it is.
    Should keep me going for a few nights.

  22. bespoke

    CBP only has one interviewer?

  23. cohenite

    Bolt is hopeless; he assumes the vast majority of RoP citizens would be appalled at the photo of the J.w.sh kid being forced to kiss the feet of the RoP brat. At least Cory was speaking strongly against the RoP saying what the RoP kid did was typical.

  24. johanna

    For the record, Lizzie does not speak for me – ever. In saying that, I particularly reject the notion that censoring women is somehow worse than censoring men, or that I am liable to burst into tears if things don’t go my way.

    That is all.

  25. zyconoclast

    Its’s not the Iranians causing “death to America.”

    Are Cities Going to the Dogs?
    Millennials favor pet ownership over children in America’s increasingly unaffordable cities.

    Roughly 600,000 dogs live in New York City, along with half a million cats. About half of U.S. households own a pet, which adds up to at least 77 million dogs and 54 million cats. Generationally, millennials are the most enthusiastic pet owners, with some 70 percent boasting of having at least one pet.

    What you’re less likely to see, especially in America’s largest cities, are children. Pets are now more common than kids in many U.S. cities. San Francisco, for example, is home to nearly 150,000 dogs but just 115,000 children under age 18. Farther north, Seattle has more households with cats than with kids. Nationwide, pets outnumber children in apartment buildings. In New York neighborhoods like Long Island City and Williamsburg, wealthy singles have the highest number of pooches per capita.

    In a recent Atlantic essay, Derek Thompson wrote about how “America’s urban rebirth is missing a key element: births.” Manhattan’s infant population is projected to halve in 30 years. High-density cities are losing families with children over age six, while growing their populations of college-educated residents without children. Indeed, the share of children under 20 living in big cities has been falling for 40 years.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Surreal:

    For The First Time Ever, Greece Issues Negative Yielding Debt

    A sale of €487.5 million of 13-week bills on Wednesday drew Greece’s first-ever negative yield of minus 0.02% as investors now pay Athens for the privilege of lending it cash, as Bloomberg first reported. Greece joins the likes of Ireland, Italy and Spain – not to mention virtually all core Eurozone nations – which benefit from the ECB’s insane monetary policy and deepening fears of a global recession.

    Seeing that a global recession is likely to cause Greece to default on their humongous debt mountain I would say this is an interesting justification.

  27. Roger

    Bolt is hopeless; he assumes the vast majority of RoP citizens would be appalled at the photo of the J.w.sh kid being forced to kiss the feet of the RoP brat.

    Evidently he hasn’t read the RoP manual.

  28. cohenite

    Quite night; I’ll post this and go and watch a movie; they’re still legal in Arizona:

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    Poor old Doomlord. Imagine how chockers his inbox would be right now.

    It’d make Killary’s 33,000 emails look like a single ad for ginseng.

    The wailing. From certain people. And the lists.

    Oh, the lists.

  30. Armadillo

    Some good news….”The Beatles” are probably at Guantanamo.

    The US military says it has taken custody of two British detainees notorious for their roles in an IS cell that tortured and killed nearly 30 Western hostages.

    Full report about Syria (albeit from the BBC)

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49995494

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    In saying that, I particularly reject the notion that censoring women is somehow worse than censoring men, or that I am liable to burst into tears if things don’t go my way.

    I agree wholeheartedly.
    In actual fact, censoring Men is infinitely worse.

    Everyone knows this.
    😁

  32. mh

    I haven’t seen a meltdown like this from the Muffiosi since Dr BeauGan live blogged Maria soaping herself in the shower.

  33. Knuckle Dragger

    Just the one member, mh, who designated herself as spokeschick for the sisterhood.

    And found out that not all of the sistas shared her view that they are delicate creatures to be protected from the elements, barricaded from consequence and wrapped in moomfy cotton wool, reassured by essential oils lest they break.

    Surprising, and a damn shame.

  34. DrBeauGan

    Well now we’ve seen the evidence, who’s in favour of the proposition that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because too many of them are irrational, given to polemics and all too happy to pontificate on inadequate information?

  35. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Super glue is cyanoacrylate.

    How toxic is it? Is it really smart for people in Extinction Rebellion to usd it to glue themselves to various objects? Could it react with eg, bitumen, to produce a toxic compound?

  36. Armadillo

    From the BBC linked above.

    For Mr Trump alliances are simply transactional – business arrangements to be judged according to a brutal and short-term cost benefit analysis. What is the US giving and what is it getting in return?
    In seemingly writing off the Kurds he suggests that the US can easily find other allies in the region. Really? Has he already forgotten recent history? The Kurds were the only capable and reliable local ally in the struggle against IS.

    I note that no journalist has put their name to the “news” article. Sounds more like “opinion” to me.

  37. Stimpson J. Cat

    The real question is will The Women of Catallaxy learn from the noble Professor Davidson’s Teaching Moment?
    And can they be trusted going forward?

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  38. Sinclair Davidson

    Gentlepeople – no need to keep salting the wounds. We can all move on.

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    If you are a lad, you’ll still have hair. 🙂

    I actually just got waxed a week ago and it’s already growing back.
    I’m incredibly disappointed in my epic testosterone levels.
    Very disrespectful.
    😁

  40. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gentlepeople – no need to keep salting the wounds. We can all move on.

    I’ve already Forgiven everyone, Boss.
    It’s the right thing to do.
    😁

  41. Old Lefty

    Never mind Eccentrica Galumbits, ZK2A. The Victorian police, DPP and courts, in their infinite wisdom, have given us George Pell of the three hands.

    That means, of course, that there was an appalling security breach when he was led away from the court house with only two of them in handcuy.

  42. Nick

    Idiot.

    Yes, I did have a nice career. [Defamatory comment deleted. That’s totally unnecessary. Sinc]

  43. Armadillo

    Muffiosi

    LOL. I’m using that at the Bowlo.

    I heard a 70 year old sheliah member the other day describing another female member as having a face that resembled “a fried fart”.

  44. mh

    My foreskin never forgets.

    The enemy of my foreskin is my enemy.

  45. mh

    Arma, I think Muffiosi is in the Cat dictionary.

  46. DrBeauGan

    The real question is will The Women of Catallaxy learn from the noble Professor Davidson’s Teaching Moment?

    Some of them sure haven’t, Stimpy.

    We don’t know enough about communications between None and Sinc to make judgments, but the female of the species seems happy to make up their own facts when they are in short supply. We should never have given them the vote or let them into universities.

    I love women. They are all soft and squashy, and they make reasonable cooks and housekeepers. But letting them try to produce reasoned arguments has not been a success in general.

  47. Muddy

    cohenite
    #3180724, posted on October 10, 2019 at 8:18 pm

    I found that most interesting, thanks Cohenite. Despite the dodgy facial hair, the bloke explains the mechanisms reasonably well.

  48. Armadillo

    no need to keep salting the wounds

    Did the rules around here change?

    Don’t worry Sinc, It will mostly be forgotten by 2025.

  49. candy

    It is not censoring, Johanna, I don’t think.

    But black and white, apologise now or you are out. that is something else again.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Muffiosi’

    See also ‘Lezbollah’.

  51. Muddy

    Muffia (noun) – An organized, dangerous syndicate of older, judgmental females engaged in such activities as criticism of, and sneering at, any activity enjoyed by a male – Gilas.

    Muffiosa (noun) – a member of the muffia – Gilas.

  52. Black Ball

    A lot of argy bargy occurring.

  53. Armadillo

    Arma, I think Muffiosi is in the Cat dictionary.

    I’ll reference it when I use it.

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    Excellent episode of South Park on the Flix. Cartman (Erica) decides he’s transgender in order to use the nicer girls’ dunny. To demonstrate, puts a bow on his beanie. Goes into said dunny.

    ‘I’m transgender. That means I can use your bathroom and you can’t stop me. Now get out of the way – I need to take a shit.’

  55. Muddy

    Is it really smart for people in Extinction Rebellion to

    Apologies for harping on this, but it’s actually spelled Excrement Retention. Don’t beat yourselves up about it though, it’s a common mistake. English is complimakated.

  56. Armadillo

    All this reminds me of “house rules”. When your mother tells you to apologise, you don’t question, you just do it. Otherwise you can move out and cook your own meals and wash your own clothes.

  57. calli

    This place can be really bizarre at times.

    It’s like eavesdropping at smoko.

  58. mh

    South Park in the news today

    ‘South Park’ creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone made good on their plan to fire back at China after Beijing banned their long-running animated series over its criticisms of the Chinese government.

    Wednesday night’s episode on Comedy Central, called “SHOTS!!!,” reached a milestone as the series’ 300th – and included a profane response to Beijing.

    “F— the Chinese Government!! characters “Towlie” and “Randy” shout, after Towlie admonishes Randy for selling marijuana to China and tells him about the country’s human rights atrocities.

    Towlie then bashes China — and anyone who does business with the country — before he and Randy shout the profane phrase.

  59. Boambee John

    Muddy

    My apologies, it is an easy error to make.

    Can I blame Spellwreck?

  60. Mother Lode

    What’s a minyan?

    It is a style of Ancient Greek pottery.

    Glad to be of help.

  61. DrBeauGan

    This place can be really bizarre at times.

    It’s like eavesdropping at smoko.

    I love it. Men and women and some children get the opportunity to see each other’s mental processes in terrifying detail.

  62. Muddy

    John – It’s a tricky one to pronounce. Every letter except for the first two of each word, is silent. Hence the frequent confusion. But that’s why I’m here: to bring the excrement back into extinction.

  63. Harlequin Decline

    I watched a one hour documentary of Johnny Cash at San Quentin on Foxtel the other night.

    The interviews with the crims and one of the screws was fascinating, especially a malefactor on death row( the gas chamber was operational at the time).

    He said most of the blokes going to the chamber managed to hold themselves together, a few went to pieces and yet a few others practically ran there in order to get it over with.

    Before they went down they said goodbye to the others on the row.

    He questioned-“What can you say to someone on the way to the chamber?”

    I was thinking that for once the American standard “Have a nice day” doesn’t seem to work.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Following Greta; Advice to out kids; from a facebook post.

    Climate Change Discipleship
    Cotton Edwards Anderson
    After our daughter of fifteen years of age was moved to tears by the speech of Greta Thunberg at the UN the other day, she became angry with our generation “who had been doing nothing for thirty years”.
    So, we decided to help her prevent what the girl on TV announced of “massive eradication and the disappearance of entire ecosystems”.
    We are now committed to give our daughter a future again, by doing our part to help cool the planet four degrees.
    From now on she will go to school on a bicycle, because driving her by car costs fuel, and fuel puts emissions into the atmosphere. Of course it will be winter soon and then she will want to go by bus, but only as long as it is a diesel bus.
    Somehow, that does not seem to be conducive to ‘helping the Climate’.
    Of course, she is now asking for an electric bicycle, but we have shown her the devastation caused to the areas of the planet as a result of mining for the extraction of Lithium and other minerals used to make batteries for electric bicycles, so she will be pedaling, or walking. Which will not harm her, or the planet. We used to cycle and walk to school too.
    Since the girl on TV demanded “we need to get rid of our dependency on fossil fuels” and our daughter agreed with her, we have disconnected the heat vent in her room. The temperature is now dropping to twelve degrees in the evening, and will drop below freezing in the winter, we have promised to buy her an extra sweater, hat, tights, gloves and a blanket.
    For the same reason we have decided that from now on she only takes a cold shower. She will wash her clothes by hand, with a wooden washboard, because the washing machine is simply a power consumer and since the dryer uses natural gas, she will hang her clothes on the clothes line to dry.
    Speaking of clothes, the ones that she currently has are all synthetic, so made from petroleum. Therefore on Monday, we will bring all her designer clothing to the secondhand shop.
    We have found an eco store where the only clothing they sell is made from undyed and unbleached linen, wool and jute.
    It shouldn’t matter that it looks good on her, or that she is going to be laughed at, dressing in colorless, bland clothes and without a wireless bra, but that is the price she has to pay for the benefit of The Climate.
    Cotton is out of the question, as it comes from distant lands and pesticides are used for it. Very bad for the environment.
    We just saw on her Instagram that she’s pretty angry with us. This was not our intention.
    From now on, at 7 p.m. we will turn off the WiFi and we will only switch it on again the next day after dinner for two hours. In this way we will save on electricity, so she is not bothered by electro-stress and will be totally isolated from the outside world. This way, she can concentrate solely on her homework. At eleven o’clock in the evening we will pull the breaker to shut the power off to her room, so she knows that dark is really dark. That will save a lot of CO2.
    She will no longer be participating in winter sports to ski lodges and resorts, nor will she be going on anymore vacations with us, because our vacation destinations are practically inaccessible by bicycle.
    Since our daughter fully agrees with the girl on TV that the CO2 emissions and footprints of her great-grandparents are to blame for ‘killing our planet’, what all this simply means, is that she also has to live like her great-grandparents and they never had a holiday, a car or even a bicycle.
    We haven’t talked about the carbon footprint of food yet.
    Zero CO2 footprint means no meat, no fish and no poultry, but also no meat substitutes that are based on soy (after all, that grows in farmers fields, that use machinery to harvest the beans, trucks to transport to the processing plants, where more energy is used, then trucked to the packaging/canning plants, and trucked once again to the stores) and also no imported food, because that has a negative ecological effect. And absolutely no chocolate from Africa, no coffee from South America and no tea from Asia.
    Only homegrown potatoes, vegetables and fruit that have been grown in local cold soil, because greenhouses run on boilers, piped in CO2 and artificial light. Apparently, these things are also bad for The Climate. We will teach her how to grow her own food.
    Bread is still possible, but butter, milk, cheese and yogurt, cottage cheese and cream come from cows and they emit CO2. No more margarine and no oils will be used for the frying pan, because that fat is palm oil from plantations in Borneo where rain forests first grew.
    No ice cream in the summer. No soft drinks and no energy drinks, as the bubbles are CO2. She wanted to lose some pounds, well, this will help her achieve that goal too.
    We will also ban all plastic, because it comes from chemical factories. Everything made of steel and aluminum must also be removed. Have you ever seen the amount of energy a blast furnace consumes or an aluminum smelter? Uber bad for the climate!
    We will replace her 9600 coil, memory foam pillow top mattress, with a jute bag filled with straw,with a horse hair pillow.
    And finally, she will no longer be using makeup, soap, shampoo, cream, lotion, conditioner, toothpaste and medication. Her sanitary napkins will be replaced with pads made of linen, that she can wash by hand, with her wooden washboard, just like her female ancestors did before climate change made her angry at us for destroying her future.
    .
    In this way we will help her to do her part to prevent mass extinction, water levels rising and the disappearance of entire ecosystems.
    If she truly believes she wants to walk the talk of the girl on TV, she will gladly accept and happily embrace her new way of life.
    Thanks to Jo Dellar and Culture Watch 9/10/2019 The ‘Extinction Rebellion’ Cult

  65. Armadillo

    South Park in the news today

    LOL. China is quickly becoming the new “fake news”.

    Hilarious watching those who sold their souls to the devil for money trying to justify it.

  66. Sinclair Davidson

    minyan – 10 men of good standing necessary to form a quorum for prayer.

  67. custard

    I quite enjoyed this exchange between Piers Morgan and some extinction rebellion fcuk-wit.

    https://twitter.com/darrenplymouth/status/1181872913902948353?s=21

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Super glue is cyanoacrylate. How toxic is it? Is it really smart for people in Extinction Rebellion to used it to glue themselves to various objects?

    Boambee John – Not toxic except for the glue aspect. The CN group is very solidly attached to the carbon backbone. I doubt it would react with anything in normal usage except for itself, since it rapidly polymerizes. Apparently the authorities have solvents that can be used to detach the swampies from the road according to the news report I half heard at lunchtime – I suspect the solvents would be more hazardous than the cyanoacrylate. My heart bleeds.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of horse racing, and absolutely nothing to with the discussion this afternoon:

    The Flouncing Stakes was run and won this arvo. Fading Flower by six lengths.

  70. Geriatric Mayfly

    Don’t follow cricket, but am wondering if Cats aspire to the same transports as Jonathan Liew who has now been immortalised in Private Eye’s Pseuds Corner.
    [Steve] Smith tucked into Broad with a couple of gorgeous on-drives, albeit only gorgeous within Smith’s own idiosyncratic idiom: a sort of cussedly ugly beauty, like a modern art installation featuring nothing but used contraceptives, a dead pheasant and the sound of a child screaming.

  71. He said no to Erdogan

    Erdogan did it it anyhow.

    No, nota. He gave Erdogan carte blanche to start a new war.

    Turkey was bombing Kurds in early 2017

    In areas where US troops were not embedded, Tel.

    Why doesnt the US congress follow its procedures and commit US troops to a possible war with Turkey?

    There will probably be resolutions made towards something like that end. But Trump wouldn’t follow through, mole.

  72. P

    Stopping climate change enables us to also solve “systemic racism, white supremacy, and the wounds of the patriarchy”.

    Yep. Straight from the mouth of @ExtinctionR’s co founder, Gail Bradbook.

    Extinction Rebellion – climate action solves “systemic racism, white supremacy, and the wounds of the patriarchy”
    Watch the video clip.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    That’s brilliant, Zulu.

  74. MatrixTransform

    Watch the video clip.

    Sorry. can’t. giving blood

  75. cohenite

    Hey head prefect, get over here and eat the fat bastard, with or without salt and sauce.

  76. bespoke

    Has any of you dorky four eyed nerds searched for a half an hour only to find them next to you.

    Well I have the solution for you.

    Bluetooth Glasses.

    I’m only asking $20,000 each for this new and exiting start up.

    Bluetooth Glasses.
    Everything is better with Bluetooth.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ah, now I know who took over from John Bolton as security adviser: Gen. M0nty D. Ripper.

  78. calli

    Good stuff, Zulu.

    I’m going to use it as a teasing template for troublesome tossers.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘a modern art installation featuring nothing but used contraceptives, a dead pheasant and the sound of a child screaming.’

    And titled ‘Extinction Rebellion’.

  80. cohenite

    This fucking idiot was once the adf head:

    Climate change ‘will induce a mass migrant invasion of Australia’

    Ben Packham The Australian October 10, 2019

    Former defence chief Chris Barrie says Australia faces a potentially unmanageable security crisis within the next 30 years because of the rise of China and climate change-induced mass migrations.

    The retired admiral, who was chief of the defence force from 1998 to 2002, told the Pacific 2019 international maritime expo in Sydney on Wednesday that rising tensions in the Indo-Pacific over the next three decades would make the Atlantic look like a “quiet benign place”.

    Admiral Barrie said by 2050, “we will be encircled by China whether we like it or not” as the Asian superpower asserted its maritime superiority throughout the region. And he warned that fresh-water shortages, together with crushing population densities across the Indo-Pacific, could unleash a wave of mass migration towards Australia.

    He said the melting of the Himalayan glacier, which scientists predict will shrink by at least a third if temperatures rise by 1.5C, would create “a very high risk” that fresh water would not be available for hundreds of millions of people.

    Admiral Barrie, a member of the Global Military Advisory Council on Climate Change, said countries such as Bangladesh — with a population density of more than 1370 per square km by 2050 — would then start looking towards Australia “for a new home”….

  81. Gab

    Help us out here, None, it’s getting crazier by the day this obsession of endlessly discussing your departure by will of the Doomlord.

    Look, send him some good Whiskey, or wine and I’m sure all will be forgiven. You forgive him, he forgives you. There. And maybe knit him a new mankini too, the old one has holes it in. Do a nice paisley pattern.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    Explain this Bluetooth Glasses concept.

    Incidentally, I am a billionaire whose hobbies include investing in start ups.

  83. Rex Mango

    Couldn’t superglue be made toxic by Govt to prevent people using it to attach to roads, like they put methanol into metho to stop people drinking it.

  84. Armadillo

    Gen. M0nty D. Ripper.

    Quite. The Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde of Catallaxy.

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Former defence chief Chris Barrie’

    Peter?

    PFNAMV Peter, is that you?

  86. Nick

    minyan – 10 men of good standing necessary to form a quorum for prayer.

    Not a prayer for the departed, like the rosary ?

  87. bespoke

    Bluetooth sells itself KD.

    But if you insist. An app that triggers an alarm on your Glasses.

  88. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Why doesnt the US congress follow its procedures and commit US troops to a possible war with Turkey?

    There will probably be resolutions made towards something like that end. But Trump wouldn’t follow through, mole.

    er hello? turkey is part of NATO.

  89. bespoke

    For ten grand more you get to be my editor and scribe.

  90. Rex Mango

    As former CDF, Chris Barrie would be on a very good wicket, yet he feels the need to sell out to this shonk:

    Admiral Barrie, a member of the Global Military Advisory Council on Climate Change,

  91. jupes

    This fucking idiot was once the adf head:

    Just one of a long line of left wing loons that we rely on to protect the nation. Every one of the last dozen or so has been worse than useless.

  92. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I love women. They are all soft and squashy, and they make reasonable cooks and housekeepers. But letting them try to produce reasoned arguments has not been a success in general.

    what’s not to love about women, they toter around on short spikes and flash their asses on instagram at every opportunity. surely that morally elevates them above us mere mortals…

  93. feelthebern

    Look, send him some good Whiskey, or wine and I’m sure all will be forgiven.

    I think I read here a while ago that Sinc prefers Irish Whiskey.

  94. Nick

    Glenfiddich 18 or 21, chipmunks.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh.

    I thought it was a thingo that you hooked for phone up to, via Bluetooth, and lets you see whatever’s on your phone by wearing your glasses, and uses optic nerve alignment to the inside of the lens as a sort of touchscreen.

    Wait. Wait wait.

    Forget I said anything.

  96. bespoke

    I think I read here a while ago that Sinc prefers Irish Whiskey

    Yep not straight though. 😎

  97. Rex Mango

    The world needs more retired generals on advisory councils about the climate. What a complete joke. Why not institute the Global Motorcar Racing Drivers Advisory Council on Climate Change?

  98. DrBeauGan

    what’s not to love about women, they toter around on short spikes and flash their asses on instagram at every opportunity. surely that morally elevates them above us mere mortals…

    Completely agree, zippy. As long as we don’t have to pretend to take their thoughts seriously and listen to them, they are adorable.

  99. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-10-10/farmer-sues-roundup-maker-monsanto/11589758

    Australia gets onto the end of cheap safe reliable chems.

    rewilding. Comrades.

  100. Boambee John

    Thanks Bruce.

    Start a rumour that, although superglue is not toxic, the solvents are both toxic and carcinogenic (possibly also mutagenic and teratogenic). There will be demands that the police stop using them, the idiots glued to the road will have to tear themselves loose manually, and the glueing habit will rapidly cease.

    Wins all round!

  101. Rex Mango

    Someone needs to do a global audit and find out how many people the Climate Industry employs.

  102. Armadillo

    Lay off the Sheliahs guys. Who are you gunna get to fetch your beer?

    [Note: The message above is only for childless blokes in a relationship].

  103. Rex Mango

    Made me so angry reading about Adm Barrie’s sinecure in the climate gig, had to go open a new box of wine.

  104. Lazlo

    There have been some estimates Rex – see Jo Nova for example – it runs to the trillions.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    Boambee John – I’d prefer they just put some bollards of peace around them, attach some detour signs and leave. Then come back in a week to see if they’re still there.

  106. Atoms for Peace

    Bruce. Just back up a bunch of diesels with dodgy dpfs and have them burble away right in their faces

  107. Rex Mango

    There must be some way of using Police Dogs to annoy superglued to the road climate activists, or perhaps release a supply of Police Ants.

  108. BrettW

    If I remember correctly Admiral Barrie was one of those who said the boats could not be turned back.

  109. Sinclair Davidson

    Glenfiddich 18 to my taste is preferable to Glenfiddich 21.

  110. Rex Mango

    The Royal Navy of Napoleon’s day was Iron Men in Wooden Ships. We got men like Barrie who form committees to worry about the weather.

  111. Armadillo

    Are these the idiots chaining themselves to cars and stuff? They wouldn’t want to chain themselves to my Merceedes. They would be finding the key to the padlock in under 2 seconds after the door shuts and the engine starts.

  112. jupes

    If I remember correctly Admiral Barrie was one of those who said the boats could not be turned back.

    Indeed he did Brett.

    He says a return to the ‘turn back the boats’ policy will put the Navy at greater risk, because they will have to respond to boats that are intentionally scuttled, and rescue drowning asylum seekers.

    “People smugglers will want to frustrate that policy in every way possible, and that will put people’s lives at risk,” Admiral Barrie told ABC Radio’s Richard Margetson in Darwin.

    “Our people are going to jump into the sea to save their lives and do extraordinary things because they’re so compassionate about it.

    “I hope no one from our navy or the customs service will lose their lives but it puts people at risk and that is why it’s a bad policy, in my view.”

    Admiral Barrie says he has information from sailors who have been traumatised by the experience of picking women and children asylum seekers out of the water when people smuggler boats were in trouble

    “I’m in possession of articles written by sailors in Armidale class boats and I know what they’ve been going through,” he said.

    “When they have done this time and time again it can be a traumatic experience, especially picking kids and women out of the water.

    “Boats would approach Australia, all papers and documents would be destroyed and, when the boats were within our migration zone, the engine would be disabled by putting bolts in them, doing everything they could to render them inoperable so they could be in state of emergency and people were rescued.”

    He said when the navy has had to delve into the risky business of trying to fix damaged engines on people smuggler boats so they can return to Indonesia, it has taken days.

    “The bad side of it is there doesn’t seem to be any end in sight and I don’t think this policy is going to make any difference.

    “It will shuffle some deck chairs but I don’t think it’s going to make any difference.

    “Anyone who thinks this is real simple stuff is kidding themselves.”

    He said the best way to break the people smuggling model would be to provide a safe way for refugees to reach Australia.

    In other words the former Chief of the ADF advocated surrender. Luckily for Australia Tony Abbott was made of sterner stuff.

  113. Nick

    Glenfiddich 18 to my taste is preferable to Glenfiddich 21.

    I knew I was right 🙂

    BWS and DM have the 12 for $60, which isn’t bad

  114. Shy Ted

    Socceroos beating world soccer titans Tibet 3-0 and not yet half time. How good are the Socceroos?

  115. Lazlo

    Not a great evening for blokedom here. Some seem to think they are being ironic and amusing. OK. Others seem to really mean it.

  116. Lazlo

    Nepal Shy Ted, the other side of the mountain.

  117. John Constantine

    https://mmpconnect.com/pennsylvania-governor-calls-for-legalized-recreational-marijuana/

    The war on drugs is over, just got to get the next step right.

    Now that data from the legalisation of recreational marijuana in the early adopter states is available, we see no real big shift in behaviour, less than expected. No flood of new users, no flood of public intoxication, no lift in driving accidents. Saturation levels of consumption must have been reached long ago. Policing outcomes harder to get clear.

    Price for legal marijuana products still needs to drop with scale and competition, hopefully not cheap chicom imports. People still running with cheaper illegal stuff to save ten and twenty bucks.

  118. MatrixTransform

    got a Glenlivit 15 for my birthday the other day.

    maybe time to polish a glass
    slainte

  119. Rex Mango

    Jupes re turnbacks:

    Adm Barrie (no wartime service besides perhaps gunline off Sth Vietnam): 0
    Maj Gen Molan (most senior post of Aust wartime officer since WW2): 1

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    got a Glenlivit 15 for my birthday the other day.

    maybe time to polish a glass
    slainte

    Slainte.

    Wha’s there like us?

    Damn few, and they’re all dead.

  121. Rex Mango

    Lazlo, not being sure what anyone’s gender is here, I assume all are gender fluid.

  122. Armadillo

    The war on drugs is over,

    Go buy a packet of smokes and a slab of beer and get back to me.

  123. Rex Mango

    I’m drinking De Bortoli Premium.

  124. John Constantine

    The war on drugs is over, in part, because our elites have become addicted to the potential to tax them to the moon.

  125. Lazlo

    No Rex, I mean blokes. They know who they are.

  126. cohenite

    Blue Planet 11 is amazing, astounding cinematography and new information about wildlife but each episode ends with that fake, hypocrite and dilettante attenborough sermonising about alarmism. What an arsehole he is.

  127. Rex Mango

    Anyone notice how since Reagan declared a war on drugs, they have progressively made booze and cigarettes far harder to obtain, while gradually legalising all the other stuff.

  128. Lazlo

    That is why I will not watch it cohenite. I am over him.

  129. bespoke

    Keep those scabs bleeding.

  130. Sinclair Davidson

    $60 Is a very good price.

  131. Rex Mango

    I remember watching final episode of Life On Earth thirty years or so ago. The show ended with Attenborough explaining how on the 24 hour clock of the world’s history, humans turned up at 15 seconds to midnight. Since then, I’ve never had a second thought about us wrecking the joint.

  132. MatrixTransform

    HERE’S TAE US; WHA’S LIKE US? GEY FEW, AND THEY’RE A’ DEID’

    She bought me a Sullivans Cove once and ponied up near 300 bucks because of a phone conversation misunderstanding.
    I didnt complain
    except of course that it was my money in the first place.

  133. Armadillo

    Anyone notice how since Reagan declared a war on drugs,

    they have progressively made booze and cigarettes far harder to obtain

    , while gradually legalising all the other stuff.

    Yes.

  134. bespoke

    $22 for five 440ml WoodStock cans.

  135. Armadillo

    I’ve also noticed that it’s pretty hard to sue your local ICE or heroin dealer for damages to your health.

  136. Armadillo

    $22 for five 440ml WoodStock cans.

    Exactly. You can’t get pissed for under $100 these days.

  137. MatrixTransform

    WoodStock

    Damn … I do like bourbon but not mixed

  138. John Constantine

    HRR heron. asxmining minnow building an actual mine, but made every newbie mistake going during the process. Shareprice slump as they did a desperate capital raise to bridge the uncanny valley to get to positive cashflow.

    The unlisted convertible notes were a sleeper part of the package, 15% announced rate calculated and capitalising daily is 16% or so effective annual. the 52 million bucks worth of notes, plus fees plus compound interest will be near 110 million at the five year conversion date, turning into 440 million shares if the note is converted.

    Getting 440 million shares for 52 million means that 12 cents a share was the real price, just with no liquidity for 5 years. Pretty brutally caps the potential for shareprice recovery for the old shareholders.

    Unlisted convertible notes in small miners aren’t always a winner, i have held a few in the past and never really cleaned up. Got some now, unlisted and illiquid and really an absolute gamble.

  139. Lazlo

    Yes, the lunacy is 30 years’ old, Jim Hansen et al. I am sure you have noticed the devastation that has occurred over the last 30 years.

  140. MatrixTransform

    You can’t get pissed for under $100

    gotsta make yr own mate

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Woodstock cans?

    Really?

  142. cohenite

    LNP members who are part of the climate action group:
    tim wilson
    dave sharma
    jason falinski
    katie allen
    angie bell
    trent zimmerman

    Fuckers.

  143. Lazlo

    Dear oh dear, PML reporting that a bunch of Lib MPs, including Tim Wilson and Dave Sharma have signed up to a ‘Climate Action Group’ chaired by Zali Steggall.

    If I say this is stupid, will it get me banned?

  144. Rex Mango

    The AMA & I think the surgeons lobby group have been pushing for some time now to put a tax on booze via amount of alcohol. Ie they don’t like the idea of derros having access to cheap drinks. This quite scary stuff. My local bottle shop has 4lt Stanley Leasinghan for $13 = >30 standard drinks.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nick, I was head of a university department in a major Australian university, appointed on merit.

    [Original comment has been deleted. Sinc]

    And all anyone needs to know about you is that you are an utter grub.
    —–

    Sinclair, you publicly humiliated a commenter on your blog. Free speech was very poorly served and so was freedom.

    I won’t look away when that happens.

    Tim Wilson, btw, has just joined a Parliamentary Group on Climate Change – an action group. Perhaps he can encourage more free speech on the ‘settled science’.

    ——–

    Dr BG, go blow some smoke rings. It was immediately apparent that free speech had just been denied. Candy puts it well, just above. Any back story afterwards is irrelevant.

    Try to think logically. Follow my lead.

    ——-

    Johanna, you have always spoken for yourself and still do.

    ——

    I am now heading for bath and bed.

    I hope None is in good spirits enjoying life beyond Catallaxy.

  146. cohenite

    katie allen was once a professor of medicine and this is what she says about alarmism:

    Climate change is real and affects us all. There is now a major and inevitable transition occurring in our energy sector to a clean and sustainable energy future. It is not just an environmental imperative to act, it’s an economic one. We need to be open to new possibilities to reduce emissions to hasten that future and use our Australian pragmatism to lead the world in sustainable energy. I believe that the Australian public is ready for a mature conversation on new technologies, such as hydrogen, and even alternative energy sources, such as nuclear, which will only move forward with bipartisan support.

    This woman is not stupid but she says this drivel which even a cursory check would reveal is bullshit. Alarmism is a religion or something which subverts or bypasses the higher functions of the brain and turns humans into idiots.

  147. Armadillo

    gotsta make yr own mate

    Tried that. Fucked if I’m gunna wait around looking at a still for a couple of weeks. It’s tastes like shit after 20 minutes. It’s hardly going to improve after that.

  148. cohenite

    Climate concerned seniors to take a stand

    Tessa Akerman, Remy Varga The Australian October 10, 2019

    Maggie Broom clocked up 67 years as a law-abiding citizen — until this week. The retired teacher was one of 59 climate protesters arrested in Melbourne on Tuesday and also one of the oldest. It was her first protest and her first arrest and she can’t guarantee it won’t be her last given she’ll be camping out with fellow Extinction Rebellion members for the ­remainder of the week.

    Ms Broom was arrested for taking part in the blockade of an intersection near Melbourne’s state parliament. She danced as she was led away by police.

    “It was exciting. I was glad it happened,” she said. “I put myself up for arrest. I was very sombre to begin with … a lot of grounding (myself) to make sure I was going to be able to go through with it.”

    Ms Broom said she had been concerned for the environment since she first read Silent Spring, about the impact of pesticides, in 1962, which “gave me a huge amount of depression”….

    This imbecile was inspired by silent spring a thoroughly debunked bit of hippie hysteria. FMD, the critical higher parts of their brains has gone.

  149. MatrixTransform

    My tits are real

    and Im a misogynist

  150. Rex Mango

    Dillo, home brew is the answer, Coopers would’ve gone broke in the 80s but for home brew. Today they are the largest Australian owned brewery.

  151. bespoke

    Keep those scabs bleeding.

    #bringbackharken

  152. Armadillo

    I may be overly optimistic, but perhaps Tim and Dave might be on the Climate committee for a reason?

    It’s easier to light a fire from the inside, rather than the outside. No point breaking windows when someone offers you a key to the front door.

  153. MatrixTransform

    appointed on merit. Not on my fucking capability.

    oh…and phrasing

  154. Rex Mango

    Once the retirees are brainwashed by this climate nonsense, we are screwed royally. They have so much time on their hands and probably aren’t concerned about the carcinogenic effects of superglue solvent.

  155. Rex Mango

    Why doesn’t the superglue thing work with the Hong Kong protestors?

  156. MatrixTransform

    if you sprinkle Sodium BiCarb onto wet super glue it sets instantly.
    I use it after trimming the grape vine.
    stops weeping

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    Not a great evening for blokedom here. Some seem to think they are being ironic and amusing. OK. Others seem to really mean it.

    You are welcome to leave and show your Sheila Solidarity.
    Don’t let my Blokish Blokeness insult your Womanly Wokeness.
    Or we can just hug quietly for a moment.
    😁

  158. Muddy

    These people are Climbers.
    Climate Climbers, though that both reads and sounds quite awkward, so let’s leave it at: Climbers.
    They use ‘the climate’ (or their mis/understanding of it) to metaphorically climb on the shoulders of ordinary taxpayers, the people they view as their moral inferiors, and then look down on those same people upon whose shoulders they have clambered, without permission. While standing on the shoulders of the filthy, ordinary, pus-filled normals, they feel entitled – and government policy is providing part of that entitlement – to kick their plinth in the ear, to drop a heel back into their face, via the increased financial and other impositions they demand (i.e ruinables). The media and the twattering class gives these trespassing vagrants a status which makes it difficult for the plinth they are grinding down, to reach up and slash calves and hamstrings.
    Climbers.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sinclair, you publicly humiliated a commenter on your blog. Free speech was very poorly served and so was freedom.

    The important part of the above comment is this:

    your blog

  160. DrBeauGan

    Try to think logically. Follow my lead.

    Now that’s what I call an oxymoron.

    Neither you nor Candy noticed a few pertinent facts. Notably that None is a nasty bit of work and seriously deranged on matters sexual. IT, kd Sinc and a few other blokes noticed. But the females here mainly didn’t. Your habit of giving other women a free pass I put down, as in Candy’s case too, to your essential niceness. But your perceptions are blunted by it. I’m an evil bastard, so I can recognise other evil bastards, you can’t. I agree that None has some good points, but there is definitely something insanitary about her mental processes, and you are blind to it.

    As I pointed out above, none of us are anything like as informed on the issue as Sinc is, which is why I make no judgments on the issue. But your histrionics are hardly an example of logical reasoning.

  161. Armadillo

    Coopers would’ve gone broke in the 80s but for home brew

    There are a couple of wankers at the Bowlo who drink that “Pale Ale” rubbish. Both ex teachers.

    I rest my case.

    [No further discussion will be entered into on this matter. Arma is right – Sinc]

  162. Lazlo

    A bunch of retired, ex-hippie Arts graduates, cohenite. They would think the scientific method is a form of contraception.

  163. Muddy

    Armadillo
    #3180879, posted on October 10, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    It’s easier to light a fire from the inside, rather than the outside.

    But it would be more fun and unambiguous to just steal an Abrams and CRUSH EVERYTHING.
    (Metaphorically, of course).

  164. Miltonf

    Sounds like a desire for cheep thrills than concern about the environment

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dear oh dear, PML reporting that a bunch of Lib MPs, including Tim Wilson and Dave Sharma have signed up to a ‘Climate Action Group’ chaired by Zali Steggall.
    If I say this is stupid, will it get me banned?

    The question is, is it true?
    And no one is banned.
    Life is full of choices for Big girls wearing Big girl pants.
    It’s really not that hard.
    Consider for a second why I am still here.
    Even a mentally ill man can manage it.
    😂

  166. cohenite

    The gene pool is rooted. Collectively the West has the intelligence of goldfish.

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘head of a university department in a major Australian university, appointed on merit. Not on my fucking capability.’

    Um. OK.

    Someone’s had a glass or two of personality and decided to have a final snipe.

    Finally, I agree with Stimpy.

    ‘your blog’.

  168. Lazlo

    Yet you continue to make judgments on the issue. I spotted you as an ‘evil bastard’ a while ago (actually, it seems, an old curmudgeon). There is definitely something insanitary about your mental processes.

    I make no judgments either.

  169. bespoke

    A few days ago It was pointed a out by a kitten that blokes should call out other bloke being jerks Yep I said to my self that’s something to live up to. But hang on isn’t there a trait that women should call out?

  170. Armadillo

    One Nation needs to join the “Climate Action Group” as well.

    If the Government is funding this sort of stuff, they have every right to. So does Mark Latham or anyone else representing their electorate.

    Disclaimer: As Stimpy points out above “Is it true”?

  171. Rex Mango

    Re the idea of a single issue party, how about Australians Against Climate Change Party? Or perhaps to make it more logical, Australians Against Action on Climate Change Party.

  172. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yet you continue to make judgments on the issue. I spotted you as an ‘evil bastard’ a while ago (actually, it seems, an old curmudgeon). There is definitely something insanitary about your mental processes.
    I make no judgments either.

    Who are you talking too?
    Maybe include the relevant post so it’s clear to those of us mentally challenged exactly who you are referring to.
    Or name who you mean.
    Like I do.
    Lazlo.
    😁

  173. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8h
    In case the Kurds or Turkey lose control, the United States has already taken the 2 ISIS militants tied to beheadings in Syria, known as the Beetles, out of that country and into a secure location controlled by the U.S. They are the worst of the worst!

    Beetles or Beatles?

  174. Harlequin Decline

    The protesters should be treated in an environmentally sensitive manner as they themselves would want.

    As Australia is a bit short of fire ants I think bull ants would be an acceptable substitute. Funnelwebs, red back spiders and the odd red bellied black snake could act as accelerants.

    Drop a few of these on the retards, the superglue wouldn’t hold long and the prick hanging from the bridge would be prusiking up for dear life.

  175. Lazlo

    Yes, of course Sinc is free and able to do what he likes on his blog. He must work very hard to maintain it, and we are all very grateful for that. I don’t know why he bothers, and I am sure he feels that way occasionally.

  176. Lazlo

    Dr BG Stimpson. Sorry I made it hard for you.

  177. bespoke

    If only we could be as smart as IamPeter life would be simple.

    BTW when does school holidays finish?

  178. Armadillo

    Beetles or Beatles?

    Beatles. But he is probably trolling.

  179. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I reckon a good operator of a front-end loader could pick up a sugar cube with one, if asked. A protestor should not prove difficult.

  180. bespoke

    Woodstock cans with Bluetooth.

  181. Nelson Kidd-Players

    We are down to two Beatles as it is.

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    Just leave them there, glued to the road. No bollards. No nothing.

    Every single mobile protestor that sets foot on the road to block traffic gets belted behind the kneecap by a ‘concerned citizen’ with a pick handle.

    The rebellion kiddies won’t be able to sic the cops on the concerned citizens, because the cops will be busy keeping a look out for normal people. Anyway, the punishments are non-existent according to the courts.

    Coming face to bumper with a stinking great garbage truck with squeaky brakes will get them shrieking for the solvent themselves.

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes, of course Sinc is free and able to do what he likes on his blog. He must work very hard to maintain it, and we are all very grateful for that. I don’t know why he bothers, and I am sure he feels that way occasionally.

    How about less of the He and the We and more of the just plain old Me(you).

    Just speak for yourself.

    And for the record, nothing you do or say to me will ever cost you your hug privileges.
    I’m a very sensitive man and I’m not ashamed to show it.
    Everyone knows this.

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8h
    In case the Kurds or Turkey lose control, the United States has already taken the 2 ISIS militants tied to beheadings in Syria, known as the Beetles, out of that country and into a secure location controlled by the U.S. They are the worst of the worst!

    Finally.
    Ringo and Paul get treated like the terrorists they are.

    The Stones will be loving this.

  185. Armadillo

    I don’t know why he bothers, and I am sure he feels that way occasionally.

    It’s why he agreed to sell a 50% stake to Infidel Tiger.

    IT is constantly making lists of people he wants eradicated. None was merely the first to go.

  186. Nelson Kidd-Players

    If they are in the way, they need to be removed. Dangling from a bridge is one thing; adding to gridlock is different. Hence the front-end loaders.

  187. Lazlo

    I, I am taken aback. I’m sorry. I value your hug privileges very much.

  188. Lazlo

    So none was diluting the float, aha!

  189. Steve trickler

    Big Boy in SoCal. Will Extinction Rebellion lay on the tracks?



  190. Rex Mango

    Steve T, great posts, haven’t watched them all, but will. Gotta get over to the USA and get on that train.

  191. Rafiki

    I noted an instance where those lying in the middle of the road cushioned their discomfort with pillows. The police wandering around the vicinity might have just taken them away. Annoy them every which way they can.

  192. Lazlo

    Steve, do you remember many years ago (80s) when a train actually ran over a leftie protestor and cut off their legs? It was in the US, California I think.

  193. DrBeauGan

    Yet you continue to make judgments on the issue

    I’ve made precisely one post, and my judgment was that I don’t know what Sinc knows and I should shut up, and so should the (female) defenders. So you are wrong.

  194. jupes

    They are the worst of the worst!

    Then execute the fuckers. Summary hearing today. Firing squad tomorrow.

  195. Armadillo

    Australia very much has its own “Deep State”. Look at the ABC (as just one example). In fact, Labor even has politicians planted in the Liberal/National parties.

    Until Conservatives realise this and take a lead from Trump, we are pretty much fucked. The “Never Trumpers” are a far greater threat to the ROP than the Democrats will ever be.

    I still recall the excitement on September 7 when Abbott was elected. What a total disappointment that turned out to be.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Steve, do you remember many years ago (80s) when a train actually ran over a leftie protestor and cut off their legs? It was in the US, California I think.

    IIRC, the protestor was a veteran, and again, IIRC, he didn’t survive his injuries.

  197. mh

    They are the worst of the worst!

    They weren’t that bad. Let It Be still sounds good.

  198. Armadillo

    I’ll give an example. This bloke disappeared into thin air. A bit like Juliars ex-shag.

    Nothing will happen. Zero, Zip, Zilch.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-secret-life-of-richard-torbay-20130329-2gz4a.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    I don’t rate The Beatles at all.

    They were the Stock, Aitken and Waterman group of their time.

    A 1960s version of New Kids On The Block.

  200. Rex Mango

    Australia’s Deep State makes Loch Ness look shallow. Three levels of government and compulsory voting, what could go wrong.

  201. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    KD, I am replying to your comment way backthread while relaxing in the bath. Must take care not to drop my phone in with me. I take your point that earlier in my statement on None’s predicament I did make reference to gender there too.

    Last nite I slept poorly thinking on the video summary stuff on witch accusations put up by Steve Tickler; something I had developed a whole course on and had taught extensive (it was a very popular course, and no nonsense in it, quite rigorous. The monstering of spirited women during those times is not something that as a woman one would readily forget, particularly the efforts to get them to recant. I freely admit that Sinclair did press a button for me there with his attitude towards None re recanting her position.

    We have these days a social ideology of equal treatment (as expressed by Johanna) but that gets harder in practice. It is easier for a man to monster a woman than he can affect in this way a man. In the None situation it would be contextual ‘bad faith’ indeed to ignore this aspect of the sudden axing and demands for recantation. Nothing to do with snowflakes and tears and other such easy but unrevealing memes.

    Sylvia Plath wrote a poem about her daddy’s metaphorical Nazi boots, so it is no rhetorical stretch to include that allusion the male power element when speaking to you about how women may, just may btw, react to male power.

    Mention of men and women as gendered beings does set off the more fire from the hip without taking aim males, and sad to say even some women, on this blog. The left have to answer for muddying the waters here meaning that little productive debate is possible for some.

    Power is the fundamental issue of course. There have been gleeful female torturers too although far fewer of them, more for biological reasons I suspect than social ones. The human genome is now producing some genuine testable science on such things. Quadrant Magazine this month has an article on this and its use or abuse, take your pick, in education.

    Simple courtesy and decency suggests that men should be aware of such things anyway.

    I have no regrets about taking a stand for free speech when an injustice is done to it on this blog. I only wish more people, men or women, could be rational and have joined in to speak out. More did when it first happened, which is good. I felt a formal statement would clarify and record these objections and I have no regrets about making one.

  202. Lazlo

    That was your last paragraph, Dr BG, and I agree with it.

    Yet above you refer to None as a nasty person etc. (takes one know no one, eh? as you point out) I am not defending her. I don’t even know what her crime was. But I will call out hypocrisy.

  203. Nob

    They were the toppermost of the poppermost.

    In their own words though:
    “Biggest crime the Beatles committed was bringing rock and roll to the middle classes.”

    That and showing the Rolling Stones how to write songs.

  204. Nelson Kidd-Players

    KD, did Rick Astley cut his teeth in Berlin nightclubs?

  205. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Gotta give credit for performing live.

    An exception for these guys, though:

    https://youtube.com/xaGDtOa5ywg

  206. Steve trickler

    Lazlo.

    No. News to me.

  207. Armadillo

    I notice Tony Windsor hasn’t disappeared. He’s still Twittering away.

    A total narcicist in the Hillary mode.

  208. Rex Mango

    NKP, to his eternal respect, Rick Astley, yes sans Hamburg nightclubs, is still on the road and finishes every night with the same song, unlike Paul M. Ringo, full respect, still tours.

  209. Nelson Kidd-Players

    So much for embedded videos. 🙁

  210. Rex Mango

    Tony Windsor was so awful it makes Peter Slipper seem a statesman.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    NKP,

    What? I’m sorta waiting to be Rick-Rolled here.

    I can comment with authority in several fields of endeavour, but Rick Astley’s early career isn’t one of them.

    This is a cricket question, isn’t it?

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Phrasing? Yes, change that to my capability in fucking someone, for that is what passes for analysis and fair comment in the mind of Nick when he was attributing how I may have achieved anything in life.

    Nice little piece of nastiness there, eh Sinclair?

    [I agree. Comment has been deleted. Sinc]

  213. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Fair enough, Rex.

    Still prefer Beatles. Less likely to give them up.

  214. DrBeauGan

    . Yet above you refer to None as a nasty person etc. (takes one know no one, eh? as you point out) I am not defending her. I don’t even know what her crime was. But I will call out hypocrisy.

    Saying that None is a nasty bit of work was based on her posts. If you didn’t read them you aren’t in a position to have an opinion. Yes, I am an evil bastard, and she is an obnoxious bitch. I pointed out the last part to her. The difference between her and me is that I’m under control and she frequently was not.

    There isn’t any hypocrisy to call out.

  215. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah.

    Rex, speaking of full respect. Still up to date with Mr Starr.

    I preferred Johnny Ringo in Tombstone to the Beatle.

  216. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Keep positive, Lizzie. Some of us are waiting to see the next iteration of your Gravatar.

  217. jupes

    NKP, to his eternal respect, Rick Astley, yes sans Hamburg nightclubs, is still on the road and finishes every night with the same song, unlike Paul M. Ringo, full respect, still tours.

    He starts the night with the same song too. That’s because he only had one!

    Where’s he playing tonight, the Muddy Creek Bowlo?

  218. DrBeauGan

    Armadillo
    #3180930, posted on October 11, 2019 at 12:01 am
    I’ll give an example. This bloke disappeared into thin air. A bit like Juliars ex-shag.

    Nothing will happen. Zero, Zip, Zilch.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-secret-life-of-richard-torbay-20130329-2gz4a.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

    That was interesting, ‘Dillo. Depressing, but interesting.

  219. mh

    Knuckle Dragger, this will change your mind.

    Superb

  220. Knuckle Dragger

    Johnny Ringo won’t let you down.

    He’s never gunna run around, or hurt you.

  221. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Inspired by the intersectionality of Lizzie’s presence and live performances:

    https://www./youtube.com/OBZLFm8s4ss

  222. Lazlo

    Yes Dr BG. OK. No hypocrisy. Showing true colours now. You are on the meds and she is not. We all understand.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What ‘Sinc knows’ is irrelevant given the circumstances which were clear and patent to all, Dr. BG. It is what Sinc did that becomes of immediate concern. His injunction and None’s defense were laid out in full as it happened.

  224. Armadillo

    I purchased the entirety of the Beatles albums in Hong Kong many years ago from a street stall. Very cheaply I might add.

    Those guys are shit. For a band that is reputably English, their command of the English language is extremely piss poor.

    Not even “half a star”.

  225. Knuckle Dragger

    Impressive, mh.

    I need that as an alarm clock.

  226. Rex Mango

    Ringo’s band is very good line up & yeah do remember Paul on the radio years ago (before he married the one legged woman), slagging off at Ringo in that good natured pretend mate of mine lingo, where he said ‘Yeah Ringo’s great, whereas I love a drink, he loves a bottle’:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringo_Starr_%26_His_All-Starr_Band

  227. DrBeauGan

    . Yes Dr BG. OK. No hypocrisy. Showing true colours now. You are on the meds and she is not. We all understand.

    You either have a lot of faith in my meds or you don’t believe I’m really an evil bastard. Or maybe you’re just insanely brave. Insufficient data for me to have an opinion, which is the usual state of affairs.

  228. Knuckle Dragger

    Finally, some sense.

    I’ve nearly got into countless punch ons explaining why I was right that the Beatles were a very well marketed bunch of pimply gits who would otherwise be living in houso flats eating dog food, because they wouldn’t have made a penny from their ‘talent’.

  229. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    None was not on trial for her general commenting. She was axed for a specific comment only, immediately. A good logician will take care not to conflate issues, Dr BG. Stick to physics in its more arcane aspects is my advice to you. Hard to go wrong there, as anything goes.

  230. Rex Mango

    Just watching some Trial and Error show on ch7. The witness is a copper and cracks a joke about their team football getting to the finals. Courtroom erupts into mayhem. Black female judge bangs gavel, resumes control and then says ‘We won’t act like that until we make it to the intestates’. I thought it funny.

  231. DrBeauGan

    . What ‘Sinc knows’ is irrelevant given the circumstances which were clear and patent to all, Dr. BG. It is what Sinc did that becomes of immediate concern. His injunction and None’s defense were laid out in full as it happened.

    Have it out with Lazlo. He agrees with me on this. 😀

  232. Lazlo

    Data is sufficient. You admit to being an evil bastard. You have told us. I believe it. I don’t think you are being ironic. Your posts have have supported that supposition.

  233. Armadillo

    I always wondered why John married Yoko. They were probably housemates.

    It explains the Asian accents on the albums I purchased.

  234. Oh come on

    They [the Chinese and Russians] only look like allies because Trump has reshaped world politics as being US vs Rest Of The World.

    m0nty’s world view hails from 1956, when Mao got in a snit with the Soviets because Khrushchev denounced Stalin.

  235. Oh come on

    Seriously? We’re still banging on about None?

  236. Oh come on

    The Beatles are the most overrated band ever.

  237. Fisky

    This is why m0ntyism is utterly doomed and forever overridden by events. How dumb to be running the pro-PRC line literally 5 minutes ago!

    Haley Byrd
    @byrdinator
    · 16h
    Bipartisan group of lawmakers to send letter to NBA commissioner on China, from Reps. Tom Malinowksi, Mike Gallagher, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Jim Banks, and Sens. Ben Sasse, Ron Wyden, Tom Cotton, and Ted Cruz

  238. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘None was not on trial for her general commenting. She was axed for a specific comment only.’

    Look, I’ve said my piece and I’m hitting the fart sack. But I will say this:

    You don’t know this, Lizzie. Neither do I or anyone else, unless there’s been some private conversations had that you’ve just betrayed by making this statement.

    Chicks must be treated differently. They are made of millimetre-thin crystal. Got it. The same as the sewing circles that giggle as they cluck ‘oh, but it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind,’ and other such rubbish. The mindset is identical.

    BG, and for that matter struth may be right. Far too emotive and high-strung to be trusted with anything of substance, and at the first disappointment the world ends in a pyroclastic lava flow.

    It’s done, Lizzie. Let it go, for tonight at least. Gawd.

    I’m sure there will be enough emotion, sackcloth and ashes for everyone tomorrow.

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