Open Forum: November 2, 2019

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  1. Hazmatic

    The other Nasho Teacher from Toowoomba…

    It was difficult to have gallant and meritorious service sufficiently recognised during the Vietnam war due to a strictly enforced ‘medal quota’. Nevertheless 79 Gallantry awards were made to National Servicemen for their actions in Vietnam. (Many of them subsequently upgraded).
    The gallantry awards to National Servicemen consisted of:
    9 Military Crosses
    2 Distinguished Conduct Medals (Regarded as a near miss for a Victoria Cross)
    22 Military Medals
    46 Mention in Despatches.
    Well done those men.
    Given ‘the quota’ very few multiple Imperial Awards for gallantry were made. There were only eight double gallantry awards for Vietnam service. They were made to eight of the most exceptional soldiers Australia has ever produced. They went to:
    WO2 Ray Simpson AATTV – VC and DCM
    Sgt Frank Cashman SAS – MID x2
    Sgt Laurie Fraser SAS – MID x2
    Maj Murray Blake 5RAR – MC and MID
    Maj Barry Petersen AATTV/2RAR – MC and MID
    2Lt Dennis Rainier 5RAR – MC and MID
    Maj David Rankine 8RAR – MC and MID
    2Lt Brian Sullivan B Sqn 1 Armd Regt

    Brian Sullivan was a conscripted National Serviceman, balloted in by his birthdate 5th May 1945. Sullivan was deservedly the most highly decorated Nasho of the Vietnam War. It is a curious thing that the word hero these days is so much overused but at the same time military heroism is denigrated by lesser men (and Marilyn Lake) as mere ANZACKERY…
    Sullivan was a hero by any measure, several times over. His Gallantry citations are as follows:

    MID. Upgraded to Medal for Gallantry (MG)

    Second Lieutenant Sullivan graduated from the Officer Training Unit, Scheyville, on 22 July 1966 and was allotted to the Royal Australian Armoured Corps. He joined C Squadron, lst Armoured Regiment in South Vietnam on 5 August 1968, and B Squadron on 11 February 1969.

    On 16 February 1969, Second Lieutenant Sullivan was commanding 1st Troop, B Squadron, 1st Armoured Regiment, supporting B Company, 4th Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment on a search for a protected arms cache.

    At approximately 1320 hours the company headquarters came under heavy fire from claymores, rockets and automatic weapons, from a bunker system about 30 metres away. Five casualties occurred in the initial exchange of fire.

    Second Lieutenant Sullivan moved his Troop forward of the casualties to protect them and to cover the deployment of the platoons. The Troop was then heavily engaged with RPG and machine gun fire. One tank was hit repeatedly, caught fire and the entire crew wounded.

    Second Lieutenant Sullivan then dismounted from his own tank and, under fire, ran forward, engaging the enemy with his pistol, mounted the burning tank, extricated its wounded driver, and then backed it out from under the enemy rocket fire. He then returned to his own tank and continued to engage the enemy until the contact was broken at 1500 hours,

    His actions enabled the dead and wounded to be evacuated, prevented the company from sustaining greater casualties and enabled the infantry to redeploy. Throughout the engagement Second Lieutenant Sullivan displayed outstanding leadership and personal courage. His actions were a credit to himself and the service.

    Military Cross

    Second lieutenant Brian Sullivan graduated from the Officer Training Unit, Scheyville, on 22 July 1966 and was allotted to the Royal Australian Armoured Corps. He joined C Squadron, lst Armoured Regiment in South Vietnam on 5 August 1968, and B Squadron on 11 February 1969.

    On 6 June 1969, Second Lieutenant Sullivan, Troop Commander, lst Troop B Squadron, was supporting D Company, 5th Battalion ‘ The Royal Australian Regiment. On arrival at Binh Ba Village, Phuoc Tuy Province, the company group immediately encountered heavy, sustained anti-tank and small arms fire from strong elements of a North Vietnamese Regiment. Counter action by the force involved sweeps through the village with armour leading, followed by a detailed search by infantry supported by armour. House to house fighting developed.

    In the face of constant anti-tank rocket fire, Second Lieutenant Sullivan showed no hesitation in leading the Australian assault into the village. He and his troop were constantly required to destroy enemy strong points and retaliate to heavy enemy fire. Throughout heavy fighting for more than two hours, Second Lieutenant Sullivan’s tanks bore the brunt of the action. Countless rockets were fired at Second Lieutenant Sullivan’s tank. One wounded him. Despite this, and penetration by rockets of three other tanks with subsequent casualties, he and his Troop continued to fight with aggression.

    His cool leadership and gallantry were an inspiration to all on that day. He paved the way for the remainder of the force to defeat the enemy.

    On many other occasions Second lieutenant Sullivan displayed the same attributes. His performance throughout 1969 was characterised by cheerfulness, conscientiousness, and courage. His attitude and conduct demands great admiration and reflects considerable credit upon himself, his Regiment and the Australian Army.

    Sullivan sadly passed away in May 2002. His obituary published in “The Chronicle”, Toowoomba, 13th July, 2002 reads as follows:

    Brian Sullivan was a decorated war hero and exceptional leader in the battlefields
    of Vietnam. After his tour of duty he became a key player in the fight for the
    improved conditions of war veterans in Queensland, especially Toowoomba.
    Born in Binnaway, NSW, Brian John Sullivan was the second of four children to
    Leister and Nina. He worked hard on his chores while still a child, but found the
    time to develop his talents as a tennis player, footballer, and golfer. Before he was
    a teenager, he helped care for his ageing grandfather, and learned to drive early to
    assist his father on mail runs. Brian did summer work with his father as he got
    older, working on cotton fields, wheat harvests and silos.
    Brian was academically strong, and topped the class during his years at Binnaway
    Central School. The final two years of his education were spent at Coonabarabran
    High, narrowly missing out on dux of the school. Upon winning a scholarship to
    Teachers’ College, Brian spent two years studying at Armidale. He received his
    first posting to Tooraweenah Public School, teaching until called up for National
    Service, A ballot system determined who was conscripted for service in Vietnam,
    and when Brian’s birthdate was selected he headed for Puckapunyal to begin
    training. He accepted this turn of fate with a spirit of adventure, and ended up
    being sent to Scheyville for officer training. Then it was off to Vietnam. Allotted to
    the Royal Australian Armoured Corps, Second Lieutenant Sullivan joined the C
    Squadron, 1st Armoured Regiment in South Vietnam in August 1968, and the B
    Squadron in February 1969. Brian was Mentioned in Dispatches in 1969 when in
    command of troops searching for a protected arms cache. Under heavy enemy
    attack, Brian displayed leadership and courage to allow evacuation of wounded
    and dead, prevention of greater casualties, and redeployment opportunities for the
    infantry. In June that same year, Brian was wounded in action while earning his
    second medal, the Military Cross. Fighting in Binh Ba, possibly the second largest
    battle involving Australian troops, Brian and his men took the brunt of the enemy
    fire, enabling eventual defeat of the North Vietnamese troops. The men who served
    with him during this period admired his cool leadership and bravery under fire as a
    tank Troop Commander.
    Back in Australia, Brian trained as a helicopter pilot at Amberley. The young
    Lieutenant began his first flying posting at Oakey with the 16th Aviation Squadron
    in 1971, and later that year was awarded the Vietnamese Campaign Medal. While
    in Oakey, Brian met and married Diane Richards, a local teacher, and they became
    parents to two children, Kristina Anne born in Toowoomba in 1977, and David
    John, born in Brisbane in 1982. In 1972, Brian was posted as a pilot to 162
    Reconnaissance Squadron, Townsville, and a year later, moved to Portsea,
    Victoria, to become an instructor at the Officer Cadet School. Promoted to captain
    in 1974, he moved back to Oakey as a pilot, becoming the second in charge of the
    Aviation Base Support Squadron in 1976. Further Army postings involved moves
    to Melbourne and Brisbane. In 1979, Brian was promoted to the rank of Major, and
    in 1981 was awarded the National Medal. Other decorations followed, with the
    Defence Force Service Medal in 1984, and the Australian Active Service Medal in
    1998. Also in 1998, Brian was awarded the Medal for Gallantry for actions in
    Vietnam, and in March this year, received the Anniversary of National Service
    Medal.
    Brian retired from the Army in 1983, settling in Toowoomba with his family and
    working for the Returned Servicemen’s League. He was passionate about issues
    impacting upon war veterans. Joining the Toowoomba sub-branch of the RSL in
    1976, Brian was elected to the committee in 1988, and became a Special Welfare
    Assistance coordinator. He was also elected as a Western District councillor in
    1988, representing the Warwick sub-branch, and became the Western District
    member on the Administration and Finance Committee. He served as the district
    junior vice-president for two years. Brian’s involvement with the RSL grew. He
    represented the district on the State Council of the RSL, and was elected to the
    position of State vice-president in 1992. In this role, he was a member of both the
    Special Projects Committee and a representative on the RSL and Ex-Services
    Clubs Association Committee for five years. He also served as a State councillor
    for the Far North Queensland District. Brian’s professional and conscientious input
    into the RSL Appeals Committee, in particular the Girl In A Million Quest, was
    tremendous, given it was such a large and difficult organisational feat. In 1991,
    Brian was elected the War Veterans Homes Company director. In this role, he had
    free rein to use his talents to provide welfare for ex-servicemen and the wider
    community. Brian lobbied hard for the establishment of a war veterans home in
    Toowoomba, and was delighted when the Westhaven complex was finally
    completed to his high standards, maintaining an ongoing interest in the Home.
    Brian was awarded RSL Life Membership in the year 2000. A re-organisation of
    the War Veterans Homes necessitated a Lifestyles Committee, and Brian became
    its chairman. In this capacity, he concerned himself personally with the interests of
    the residents in the complexes. Brian Sullivan was aged 57 when he died in
    Toowoomba. He is survived by his wife, and two children.

    Compare and contrast…

    Palmer, A. 1995, VIETNAM VETERANS – A Record of Service. Success Print, Perth.

    Awards & Citations – RAAC & Sub Units that served with the RAAC in Viet Nam compiled by Ian McVie http://sitrep1.tripod.com/cav27b.htm 1/11/2019

    Officer Training Unit Association 1 OTU Scheyville 2019 https://www.otu.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/Sullivan.pdf 1/11/2019

    50th Anniversary of the Battle of Binh Ba 2019 https://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/binh-ba 1/11/2019

  2. classical_hero

    Liberalism is a death cult.

  3. Rossini

    After midnight and still reading.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    VC heroes call on Defence top brass to take responsibility for veteran suicide

    Australian Victoria Cross heroes Ben Roberts-Smith and Dan Keighran say Defence top brass need to take responsibility for helping veterans adjust to civilian life.
    Matthew Benns, Editor-at-Large, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    November 1, 2019 11:00pm

    Two of our decorated Victoria Cross heroes have called on Australia’s military leaders to take responsibility for the shocking rate of veteran suicides — and to pay more than “lip service” to helping Diggers adjust to civilian life.

    Afghanistan veterans Ben Roberts-Smith and Dan Keighran point the finger at Defence top brass for the failure to prepare servicemen and women for difficulties in transitioning from the ADF after traumatic experiences.

    Mr Keighran, who was awarded the Victoria Cross for gallantry in Afghanistan in 2010, said: “It’s a real issue and I would hate to see people lose their life because of a lack of help.”

    Mr Roberts-Smith, Australia’s most decorated former soldier who was awarded the Victoria Cross and Medal of Gallantry, said: “Anyone who has served who is looking to self-harm or commit suicide, part of the reason for that is because of their service.

    But he said Defence chiefs took no responsibility for veterans from the moment they left the military.

    He will join a panel of military experts at The Daily Telegraph’s Save Our Heroes Summit next week, which will finally give voice to the mothers of five veterans who have taken their own lives.

    “One veteran suicide is too many,” Mr Roberts-Smith said.

    “This summit is important because we need to understand what is actually happening in this veteran suicide space.”

    At the heart of the problem, he believes, is the lack of preparation and training the Australian Defence Force gives its members for civilian life.

    “My biggest issue is the transition. Suddenly there is no more contact,” Mr Roberts-Smith said.

    It was in total contrast to the months of training a civilian receives on joining the armed forces, he said.

    “When you join the military they have to break you down from being a civilian and turn you into being a soldier. They have got to stop your civilian mindset.”

    But he said members of the ADF were not given similar help to remove their military mindset and prepare them for civilian life when they left.

    “A lot of social issues veterans face when they leave is because of the lack of proper transitioning. If we can get that right then social issues like domestic violence and drug abuse will naturally sort themselves out,” he said.

    “When I transitioned I got to see it first-hand. I was a high-profile soldier who, when I left, felt a lot of it was just lip service — stuff like ‘have you got a resume’.”

    Mr Roberts-Smith went on long service leave when he returned from Afghanistan in 2012. Eight months later he decided to discharge and was told to report to a barracks for just one day to fill out some forms and “tick some boxes”.

    “If I am a high-profile guy and they can do that to me what happens to the 20-year-old Digger with no life experience who has seen his best mate vaporised by an IED in ­Afghanistan and walks out?” he said.

    “That’s why guys disappear. Once you leave, Defence does not count these people and that’s the issue … there is no accountability.”

    Mr Roberts-Smith said that for too long the Department of Veterans Affairs had been held accountable for veteran suicide when, in fact, “DVA has come on in leaps and bounds”.

    “The problem is the culture of Defence. We have military leaders who should be standing up for their people, not just those serving but those who have served as well,” he said.

  5. Oh come on

    Elizabeth Warren announces $20-trillion Medicare for All proposal

    Wow. A 20 trillion dollar healthcare plan? 2020 hinges on a relatively small number of independent voters. Among such people, Pocahontas’s healthcare plan will result in widespread sticker shock.

  6. mh

    Oh. My. God.

    October job creation comes in at 128,000, easily topping estimates even with GM auto strike

    Nonfarm payrolls rose by 128,000 in October, exceeding the estimate of 75,000 from economists surveyed by Dow Jones.

    There were big revisions of past numbers as well. August’s initial 168,000 payrolls addition was revised up to 219,000, while September’s jumped from 136,000 to 180,000.

    The unemployment rate ticked slightly higher to 3.6% from 3.5%, still near the lowest in 50 years.

    The pace of average hourly earnings picked up a bit, rising 0.1% to a year-over-year 3% gain.

    Big revisions upward

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/jobs-report-october-2019.html

  7. JC

    Pocahontas’s healthcare plan will result in widespread sticker shock.

    Hope you’re right. All I’ve heard from parents is that their kids are buying into this economy wrecking nonsense. Anecdotes aren’t data, but it’s a little worrying.

    The downside of a Trump loss in 20 isn’t a Bill Clinton or even an Obama, it’s communism.

  8. JC

    Oh. My. God.

    October job creation comes in at 128,000, easily topping estimates even with GM auto strike

    And they’re impeaching Trump and looking like they’re going to get away with it.

  9. JC

    We’re spending a few days in the Hamptons staying with friends. On the way here there were electronic billboards that weren’t just adverting products. There were job ads!

    I’m seeing sits vac ads quite a bit on store windows like cafes and food joints etc.

  10. Bruce in WA

    Friday night is Boys’ Night, yeah?

    It’s 14 years old but still a fabulous commercial …

  11. Fred

    So I finally had a win over Centrelink. First they said I owed them $393.69 (from 2011!). Then they said I owed them $146.31. Now they say I owe them nothing.

    And what did it take to win, you may ask?

    2 years, 9 letters from Centrelink, 4 letters to Centrelink, 11 phone calls, 2 complaints (which were ignored), 1 freedom of information request, 2 emails to my employer from 2011 to obtain payslips, 1 letter to my Member of Parliament (which was ignored) and 2 reviews by ‘Subject Matter Experts’.

    I would love to know how much it all cost. And I was actually looking forward to going to the AAT.

  12. Oh come on

    I don’t know, JC. I’m reading these handwringing articles about how how 70% of kids these days have favourable feelings towards socialism and a third would welcome communism. It has always been thus. Youngsters are prone to being redistributionists because they stand to be beneficiaries. They aren’t concerned about the cost of socialism because they won’t have to pay for it.

    When they grow up and start being taxed, most of them come around.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    Tariffs are the best thing on earth.

    The US is flying since they introduced them. Everything we are told about economics is wrong.

  14. Bruce in WA

    “Splash the Zeros. I repeat, splash the Zeros.”

  15. Oh come on

    Just had a look at Drudge. It seems Pocahontas’s healthcare plan is being reported as either the 20 trillion dollar healthcare plan or the 52 trillion dollar healthcare plan.

    When the numbers are that big, it really doesn’t matter which is is correct.

  16. JC

    What do you think though that people – especially the young – are focused on with healthcare? I mean what is likely to persuade them? Is is that someone is promising free care or 50 trillion it would cost?

    I think what resonates the most is the “free” angle.

    The thing that worries me about Warren is that despite all her insane lies, the cheek bones, stealing affirmative action jobs, she’s even this close to getting the mom.

  17. struth

    OCO.
    I must take exception to your comment regarding the reason yoofs are left wing.
    They are left wing because they are brainwashed in schoools.
    Full stop.
    How many would be left wing if you or I were in charge of their education?
    We are now at a stage where their parents were brainwashed too.
    Leftism is not a natural position for youth to take and they certainly act more right wing in their habits only repeating the leftism shoved down their throats.

    It all starts in our schools and claiming children are naturally left wing I entirely disagree with and feel you let the filth in our education system get away with their disgusting behavior in suggesting it is.

  18. struth

    Cmon Tom……..you can do it.
    We’ve set our alarms……well I haven’t ……..just naturally woke up because god hates me.

  19. Tom

    OK, I’m now in Google Chrome, but I have the same problem with cartoons: it won’t allow me to simply copy their URL IDs like I could do in Internet Explorer. In other words, in this respect, Chrome is as bad as Microsoft Edge, which also won’t let me copy URLs.

    And, of course, as with all IT problems, you’re on your own because there’s no customer service. Any thoughts, Cat tech heads?

  20. classical_hero

    Have you run a malware program?

  21. Mark A

    Tom
    #3199544, posted on November 2, 2019 at 4:20 am

    It’s unclear what you mean by “it won’t allow me to simply copy their URL IDs ”
    You can copy any URL.
    If it’s not a subscriber site where you get your cartoons from, point me to it

  22. DrBeauGan

    Where do you go to get the cartoon for, say branco, Tom? And how do you try to select the url for the cartoon?

  23. DrBeauGan

    Tom, can you do what Struth just did? Go to his link and try to copy the URL for it. Confirm you can paste it here.

  24. Tom

    Beaugy, I typically (but not always — sometimes it’s from websites) get content from Twitter. But, if I go to Zanetti’s Twitter feed and click on his latest cartoon, neither Chrome nor Edge will allow me to simply copy the URL. Instead it gives me options like saving or copying the image to my laptop — which is obviously not an address I can share like a URL, which I can embed in a link via the Cat’s comment buttons.

  25. DrBeauGan

    I did that on my phone so it’s not much use to Tom, but it shows that the url can be copied in my browser too . I’m using phoenix.

  26. Mark A

    If you right click on the cartoon do you get an option “Copy image location”

  27. DrBeauGan

    Beaugy, I typically (but not always — sometimes it’s from websites) get content from Twitter. But, if I go to Zanetti’s Twitter feed and click on his latest cartoon, neither Chrome nor Edge will allow me to simply copy the URL.

    Can you post the url for a tweet on zanetti’s Twitter feed? I’m not on twitter so can’t easily find one.

  28. Tom

    Mark A, I don’t have that option in Chrome. The only options are “1. open image in new tab. 2. save image as… 3. copy image. 4. Copy image address.

    The last one sounds useful, but if I click on it, nothing happens and ther is nothing to copy.

  29. Mark A

    I’m using Firefox.
    Tried ME it doesn’t give you that option but I haven’t gone through the settings and options, as I don’t use it.
    Will have a look later,
    Firefox is my fav browser. I try Brave now.

  30. Mark A

    Zanetti by Brave

    Brave gives you that option out of the box.

  31. Tom

    I’ll try Brave — I have already installed it on my laptop on Bruce of Newk’s recommendation. I just have to make it my default browser.

  32. Mark A

    Tom
    #3199566, posted on November 2, 2019 at 5:10 am

    I’ll try Brave — I have already installed it on my laptop on Bruce of Newk’s recommendation. I just have to make it my default browser.
    Why?
    Just make quick start icon and go.
    If it nags you don’t worry about it.

  33. Mark A

    Zanetti via Chrome
    That option to copy image address is there.

  34. DrBeauGan

    Tom, I got the above link by going to the address
    https://mobile.twitter.com/zanetticartoons?lang=en
    Then tapping on the image gives me the jpg, and tapping on the jpg image gives me the same choices as you’ve been getting, except I also get an option to share it. If instead of tapping I tap and hold, I get lots of options including copy link, which is how I got it.

    This isn’t of much use to you directly, but it suggests that you don’t want to select the image. You might try selecting the page where the image is sitting, if that makes sense.

    You might try a right mouse click on the image which may correspond to my phone tap and hold.

  35. struth

    I don’t do twitter either so god knows what is going on there, but ordinary sites should work.

  36. Mark A

    struth
    #3199570, posted on November 2, 2019 at 5:16 am

    I’m not on Twitter, but any one can view a Twitter thread if it’s public

  37. struth

    “tis wif a tear in me eye that I try to get back ter sleep, knowing anuva mornun ‘as passed, with no Tom’s cartoons……………………………….only 4 in the mornun here .

  38. classical_hero

    If you open the image in a different tab, then you get the image url in the new tab. Just go to the url bar and it should be there.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Yes, my tap and hold works on other toons, while a straight tap just gives me the jpg image, and tap or tap and hold on that gives me no way of getting the url. If tap and hold on a phone translates to right mouse click on a computer, then do some right clicking and see what happens.

  40. Mark A

    This is the menu I get when right click on image in Chrome, using it freshly installed.

    Why you don’t have this option is a mystery.

  41. DrBeauGan

    mobile.twitter.com/zanetticartoons?lang=en

    I got that by saving the image into chrome opening in a new tab, and copying the url at the top of my page.

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And they’re impeaching Trump and looking like they’re going to get away with it.

    no they won’t, not a single republican voted for it in the house. they wont get 2/3 majority in the senate.

    it’s a stunt to save biden’s ass.

  43. struth

    I think I can hear the swearing from here.

  44. DrBeauGan

    mobile.twitter.com/zanetticartoons?lang=en

    I got that by saving the image into chrome opening in a new tab, and copying the url at the top of my page. It just needs the https:// in front.

  45. DrBeauGan

    I reckon it’s the right mouse clicking that does it. Maybe Tom’s mouse is defective. Or maybe he’s got it upsidedown. 😀

  46. Tom

    OK, I’m going to stick with Brave as a browser. But I expect it will take another day or so until I can set it up correctly in my laptop, with all the shortcuts etc I used to have in IE.

  47. JC

    Zipper

    Of course they won’t get it through the senate. That’s not what suggested or implied. The is that they’re not afraid to push it through the house not fearing electoral retribution even for a stunt like this.

  48. Tom

    OK, I’m going to stick with Brave as my browser, but I expect it will take another day or so before I can get it set up correctly in my laptop with all the shortcuts I need. My laptop is now in chaos as I’ve lost all my old IE settings, which used to allow me one-click access to everything I needed.

    Thanks for your help, Cats. I expect I’ll need lots more.

  49. DrBeauGan

    Putting it inside a link would conceal the URL, so I didn’t.

  50. JC

    The thing I find astonishing is how Biden has been able to get away with it. So far.

    He’s touched up kids and women and was in cahoots with his low amp son. Astonishing.

  51. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for your help, Cats. I expect I’ll need lots more.

    Tom, it’s worth an awful lot of joint effort to get those toons back!

  52. vr

    The thing that worries me about Warren is that despite all her insane lies, the cheek bones, stealing affirmative action jobs, she’s even this close to getting the mom.

    JC — The thing is the MSM is in the tank for her. Notice what happened when her lie about being fired was exposed by Free Beacon?

    Case-in point: New York Times Reporter Sat On Public Records Challenging Warren’s Pregnancy-Discrimination Claim

  53. DrBeauGan

    Tom,
    You’ve done it!

  54. vr

    JC — Yesterday I listened to two podcasts Barry Ritholtz’s “Masters in Business” and a vox one on Technology.

    The former had a WSJ reporter who had written a book on RenTech and the later had Bill Kristol on. Both had a similar theme on Trump. What if he refused to leave or stirs up hatred if he loses? Given the only peeps rioting/marching were Dem supporters/Antifa the last time around, there is no evidence he would do any of that.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tom – A tip with Brave, which is what I use. When you select the URL don’t worry that it doesn’t have the http bit. Copy and paste it into the dialogue box that opens when you use the Cat ‘link’ button and the http bit is automatically added when you do paste.

    A second tip with Brave is it can do folders like IE does, so for example the thousand odd AGW links I have are in a set of nested folders which I can easily get to from the Bookmarks Bar.

  56. Tom

    Beaugy, my laptop is a complete mess. The next day will be like cleaning up after a cyclone — and it’s Derby day. There just aren’t enough hours in the day.

  57. JC

    vr

    I bet very few people know she lied. And D’rats don’t care.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    Chrome can do all that too of course, but I uninstalled it because Goolag were behaving increasingly evilly.

  59. a happy little debunker

    Commsec’s state of the states.

    1. Victoria
    2 Tasmania
    3 NSW
    4. ACT
    5. QLD
    6. SA
    7. WA
    8. NT

    Who would have predicted that after 20+ years of leftist/green policies, Tassie’s conservatives could have made such inroads in just 5 years?

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Loot!

    Archeologists discover Dark Age treasure: ‘Most important Anglo-Saxon find in history’

    After 10 years of detailed research, archaeologists are to publish a complete account of the hundreds of high status gold and silver objects found by a metal detectorist a decade ago in a field in southeast Staffordshire.

    The resulting book, published by the world’s oldest historical organisation, describes all of the hoard’s 700 objects, including 4kg of gold items and 1.7kg of silver.

    The ancient artefacts amazingly do not seem to reflect the wide range of gold and silver artefacts which would have existed in Anglo-Saxon society.

    Research instead suggests the material is almost exclusively military in nature.

    From the photos the gold objects look to be bling removed from scabbards and horse tack and the like, which suggests they were taken from the losing side. Then whoever it was seems to’ve buried it – then suffered the fate of the previous owners.

  61. John Constantine

    China Pushes to Integrate Hong Kong Through Patriotic Education, Security Overhauls
    Beijing adopts directives intended to strengthen ties with the city, including retooling its political and economic system

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-pushes-to-integrate-hong-kong-through-patriotic-education-security-overhauls-11572617038

    What harm can their andrews State government do?.

    As a client State of the chicom Tyrant, their andrews kleptocracy have introduced ‘Patriotic Education’ to yarragrad.

    Patriotic to the Revolution.

    Restructure of the security system, by making vikpol political thought police by retaining and retraining and promoting according to a quota policy of 100% kowtowing to the thought of dan andrews.

    [And using chicom secret police hardware and software for identification ans control of dissent.]

    Fly the red flag over yarragrads police stations and put chicom slogans on the roadsides.

    Comrades.

  62. John Constantine

    How long until their andrews regime lowers the voting age for council and state elections to sixteen for those that passed his ‘Patriotic Social Studies’ voting class at high school?.

  63. Tom

    Beyond belief. Paywallian:

    Tony Abbott has been asked to register as an agent of foreign ­influence under controversial ­national security laws, for addressing the Conservative Political ­Action Conference in August.

    In the first action of its kind under the foreign-influence laws, the event’s Australian organiser, Andrew Cooper, whose small not-for-profit organisation LibertyWorks co-hosted CPAC in Sydney with the American Conservative Union (ACU), was ordered to hand over documents and threatened with jail time.

    The revelations challenge the integrity of the Coalition’s foreign influence registry, which came into effect last December. ­Attorney-General Christian Porter conceded the actions taken by his department did not represent an effective enforcement of the legislation.

    The Weekend Australian can reveal that Mr Abbott was asked to register as an agent of foreign ­influence one day before he ­addressed CPAC. The conference was held in Australia for the first time in August and included prominent international speakers including Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage and British political activist Raheem Kassam.

    The former prime minister ­refused the request, labelling it ­“absurd” and saying “senior officials of the commonwealth have better things to do with their time”.

    Mr Cooper received an ­October 21 letter from the ­Attorney-General’s Department demanding the production of ­documents under the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.

    Like Mr Abbott, he has refused to comply and challenged the ­department about why it was not ­focused on more pressing “stories of Chinese Communist Party agents influencing university campuses or bankrolling political candidates”.

    The decision by the department to target Mr Abbott and Mr Cooper comes amid a national ­debate over Chinese influence at Australian universities and ­research ­organisations. It coincided with a damning ICAC inquiry that has heard allegations the NSW ALP received a $100,000 donation in an Aldi shopping bag from a banned donor, billionaire property developer Huang Xiangmo.

    The government’s crackdown on foreign influence has been ­attacked by legal experts including Sydney University’s Anne Twomey, who warned it could force thousands of people, including authors, academics and publishers, to register as agents of other countries.

    The letter to Mr Cooper, sent by Sarah Chidgey, the deputy secretary of the Integrity and International Group, advised him to provide all documents “detailing any understanding or arrangement between LibertyWorks and the ACU”. She asked for invitations to the event, correspondence with speakers as well as the transcripts and recordings of the ­addresses. It noted that failure to comply with the order within 14 days carried a maximum penalty of six months’ jail.

    In his reply, Mr Cooper said the department “appears less like the defender of freedom and more like that of the old East German Stasi”.

    “You hold a gun to our head and demand information that we do not have,” he wrote.

    He told The Weekend Australian: “I will not be complying with this notice despite the threat of criminal prosecution and jail time. I established LibertyWorks to argue against this type of ­government control over speech and citizens.

    “I will not sell out our speakers and delegates by kowtowing to government overlords.’’

    CPAC was aimed at developing ideas for the centre-right of politics and included addresses from conservatives and libertarians. It was heavily attacked by Labor’s home affairs spokeswoman, Kristina Keneally, who warned of an “alt-right” takeover and rising white supremacism in Australia.

    The first CPAC was held in the US in 1974 with then California governor and future president Ronald Reagan the first headline speaker.

    Speakers at the August event included Mr Abbott, former deputy prime minister John ­Anderson, Liberal senator Amanda Stoker, Liberal MP Craig Kelly, former Labor leader Mark Latham and US Republican congressman Mark Meadows.

    Mr Cooper said he “just wanted to run a conference”.

    The department has sent about 500 letters to a range of ­individuals asking them to consider whether they need to register under the foreign influence transparency scheme.

    Mr Abbott was informed that, as a former cabinet minister, he had “a lifetime obligation to register any activity you undertake on behalf of a foreign principal”.

    In a follow-up email, sent by the department last month, Mr Abbott’s CPAC address and a September speech to a summit in Budapest, Hungary, were identified as potentially problematic.

    In a sharply worded response, sent on Wednesday and obtained by The Weekend Australian, Mr Abbott said: “Neither speech of mine was given ‘on behalf’ of a foreign principal. I spoke for myself, that’s all.

    “Any suggestion that I was speaking on behalf of a foreign ­entity is absurd … I decline to register and suggest that you rethink the making of such misplaced and impertinent requests in the future.

    “Surely senior officials of the commonwealth have better things to do with their time.”

    The department’s handling of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme angered Mr ­Porter. “I have made it clear to my department that I expect it to demonstrate a focus on the most serious instances of noncompliance,” the Attorney-General said.

    “I’m not persuaded this focus has been perfectly demonstrated to date.”

    Mr Abbott said it was easy for the bureaucracy to turn “well-­intentioned government policy into something which turns out to be radically different to what their ministers and staff intended”.

    The letter to Mr Cooper was the first and only order for the production of documents issued under section 45(2) of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme, which was introduced by Malcolm Turnbull to help counter the “serious threat posed to Australia and our interests by covert interference and espionage”.

    Mr Cooper told the department on Friday that LibertyWorks “cannot, and will not, comply with this notice”. He informed the department that it was impossible to produce the thousands of documents requested within the 14-day timeline.

    “The breadth and scope of the requirements in your notice ­betray a lack of specific concerns and you do not ‘reasonably suspect’ we are required to register with the scheme,” he wrote.

    The department sent the letter to Mr Cooper, asking him to pass on the request by the close of business on Friday, August 9.

    “So they threaten me with jail, and then expect me to be their agent so they can go after someone else?” Mr Cooper told The Weekend Australian.

    “They can go and get stuffed.”

    The department also wrote to former Liberal politician Ross Cameron in August for speaking at CPAC, asking him to consider registering as an agent of foreign influence.

    Link.

  64. DrBeauGan

    Beyond belief. Paywallian:

    Tom, this is hard evidence that we have our own deep state in the public service. Only loony lefties inside it could come up with that kind of insanity.

  65. John Constantine

    must be vetted for loyalty and dismissed upon discovery of indications that they pose a threat to a socialist government. Identify sympathetic officers and soldiers, retrain and promote them.

    won’t tolerate the threat of a dissenting class insurrection against a socialist government. We’ll take all measures to ensure that any such threats are put down. The dissenting class are empirically less likely to flee, and more likely to draw blood

  66. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3199609, posted on November 2, 2019 at 7:02 am

    Beyond belief. Paywallian:

    Tom, this is hard evidence that we have our own deep state in the public service. Only loony lefties inside it could come up with that kind of insanity.

    No Dr BG, politicians come up with ideas like this, befitting to Mr Turnbull to initiate it, no surprise there.
    The deep state simply takes advantage.
    This sort of matter was and is being handled by the security agencies, or should be.

  67. John Constantine

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/most-obese-countries/

    30% obesity rates in Australia make it a little harder to do

    Flee, Cower, Beg.

    But 30% obesity makes active resistance a lot harder.

    Medicated debt herds of proles, marinated in electronically induced anxiety and fed on rations of addictive Soma. Monitored by chicom secret police technology for control of dissent, residency permits and internal movement passports run off facial recognition software according to your social credit rating.

    Der andrewsreich vil last vun tousan’ years.

  68. Twostix

    Tony Abbott has been asked to register as an agent of foreign ­influence under controversial ­national security laws, for addressing the Conservative Political ­Action Conference in August.

    The bugman class flexes its chicken giblet, soy filled arms.

    This is purely political, nearly everyone in the APS is a leftwing bugman goon. They were being malevolent.

    Has Bob Carr received a letter?

    We really need to tgink about pulling the plug on the commonwealth government. It is completely out of the people’s control.

  69. calli

    I’m seeing sits vac ads quite a bit on store windows like cafes and food joints etc.

    That was my experience, too, JC. This time last year on a 6,000km drive through the middle of the country.

    A stark contrast to back home.

  70. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The department’s handling of the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme angered Mr ­Porter. “I have made it clear to my department that I expect it to demonstrate a focus on the most serious instances of noncompliance,” the Attorney-General said.
    “I’m not persuaded this focus has been perfectly demonstrated to date.”

    So what are you going to do to tell them to pull their heads in and ensure with follow up that they do so?

    I doubt anyone with an interest in free speech feels that much focus in this matter has been demonstrated at all, imperfectly or otherwise. This is simply a classic example of a ‘woke’ team of bureaucrats having yet another go at implementing a form of lawfare against the centre-right, or indeed, anything that isn’t green and left. Time to tackle this Gramscism now. Try the deep greenMurray Darling and landcare bureaucracies as first on the list. And stop funding their media and organisations. Get. A. Grip.

  71. John Constantine

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2753660

    Australian study. Meat dodging and fasting and living off processed rations can drop weight, but at a cost of dropping lean muscle mass, loss of strength and higher risk of death when you totter and fall over because your balance is dodgy, your strength is gone and your bones are chalky.

    If you aren’t making a gain in muscle mass an option, fasting and vegetablefat poisons will take it from you.

  72. Snoopy

    The letter to Mr Cooper, sent by Sarah Chidgey, the deputy secretary of the Integrity and International Group,

    A woman? I’m shocked.

  73. John Constantine

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/google-to-acquire-fitbit-valuing-the-smartwatch-maker-at-about-2point1-billion.html

    Their google buy your health data for two bill.

    Fitbit sells on a low revenue multiple, indicating it was failing to monetise health data. google now access to a huge pool of ‘wealthy worried well’ valuable advertising herd.

  74. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Time soon for my kickboxing class, cancelled yesterday. On today though. Lots of air punching and roundhouse kicks, squats and lunges, and some ‘free weights’. Fierce stuff when done with female aggro. 😀

    And yet another Saxon hoard found. Warfare profiteering. No bank vaults in those days.

  75. pete m

    Tom i have had the right click on url and not get copy option problem in win 10 using edge. It weirdly sometimes goes away and sometimes does copy and allow me to paste even without showing a copy click option.

    Gave you searched this issue?

    I have a surface laptop and kept it vanilla for work only needs so didn’t install other browsers.

    I’ll check for a solution later.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll be watching you
    Every breath you take,
    every move you make,
    every bond you break,
    every step you take
    I’ll be watching you

    Fitbit To Be Acquired By Google For $7.35/Share, 63% Discount From IPO Price

    Ironic that the lyrics are from a single by The Police.

  77. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fierce stuff when done with female aggro. 😀

    Feel my muscles, I say to Hairy, presenting my clenched arm for inspection. He feels.
    Oh yairs, he agrees, and turns away laughing.

    Men can be awful sometimes, can’t they?

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I refuse to have a fit-bit.

    They tell tales.

  79. DrBeauGan

    Given that Google and others have been collecting data on me and selling it to advertisers to target me, they’re doing a bloody awful job. I use the phoenix browser, and it keeps sending me stuff to read which they think are likely to interest me based on what they’ve figured out about me. Half are stories about African politicians and the others are advice on how to date older people or how to keep my marriage together. 😀

  80. pete m

    Tom, might be a mouse driver update issue not working post win 10 update

    don’t do the whole clone drive thingy last resort option imv

    win 10 was famous for stuffing up older software so maybe the update stuffed up mouse drivers?

  81. pete m

    Beauy, my solution to google ads was to click on stein and revolve ads

    Now all I get on my website browsing are their models in scanty clothes

    No more annoying ads!,

  82. calli

    I receive many…many emails from Cute Russians and Cute Asians looking for ”lurrrrve”. And various “enhancements” and supplements for muscle mass building. And sleep apnoea.

    Do you think Google thinks I’m a bloke? On account of my blokey email address?

    It’s the only explanation. My browsing history is typically female.

  83. DrBeauGan

    Beauy, my solution to google ads was to click on stein and revolve ads

    Now all I get on my website browsing are their models in scanty clothes

    No more annoying ads!,

    An elegant solution, Pete M!

  84. johanna

    Bruce in WA, thanks so much for the Steve McQueen Mustang commercial. Brilliant, I wanted to go out and buy a stanger right now. After mopping up the drool.

    Who would Hollywood have to make an ad like that today? Cokeheads with manbuns being off the list …

    And, it brings to mind one of Johanna’s Tips – blokes wearing jeans over the age of 40 look ridiculous, unless you are Steve McQueen. 🙂

  85. egg_

    Chevelle SS in the current Top 20:

  86. johanna

    struth
    #3199543, posted on November 2, 2019 at 4:13 am

    Cmon Tom……..you can do it.
    We’ve set our alarms……well I haven’t ……..just naturally woke up because god hates me.
    Tom
    #3199544, posted on November 2, 2019 at 4:20 am

    OK, I’m now in Google Chrome, but I have the same problem with cartoons: it won’t allow me to simply copy their URL IDs like I could do in Internet Explorer. In other words, in this respect, Chrome is as bad as Microsoft Edge, which also won’t let me copy URLs.

    And, of course, as with all IT problems, you’re on your own because there’s no customer service. Any thoughts, Cat tech heads?

    Tom, I am the furthest thing from a techhead, but have a fair bit of experience. I have said this before, but will repeat it.

    Either there is some software in your machine which is causing the problem, or your machine is faulty.

    Nobody else here has your problem. It’s in your machine.

    Buy a cheap laptop with W10 installed, and try again. Give yourself a new name and have no links to your old identity. I will give you 100 to 8 that your problem goes away.

    (I got 100 to 8 from reading Wodehouse. Presumably, a gentleman would not bet less than a hundred pounds.) 🙂

  87. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Now all I get on my website browsing are their models in scanty clothes

    I can recommend wicked weasel, minimale animale, honey birdette. revolve is particularly persistent, if you click on their mini dress ads, the lovely models will haunt you for days if not weeks.

  88. JC

    It’s hyper and by the afternoon it’s going to be fun ugly to watch. The insincere graciousness is always the giveaway.

  89. DrBeauGan

    I receive many…many emails from Cute Russians and Cute Asians looking for ”lurrrrve”. And various “enhancements” and supplements for muscle mass building. And sleep apnoea.

    That’s what spam filters are for, Calli. I did some searches for phablets, thinking of buying a cheap one as a Christmas present for Diaboli, and got dozens of emails from kogan, which I didn’t even know about until I looked in my spam filter.

  90. bespoke

    Try https://www.epicsearch.in/

    If your getting spam. But don’t log into any sites

  91. Mark M

    So … can Saint Greta of Catamaran, patron saint for the Age of Stupid, get from LA to Madrid by Dec 2 without using any fossil energy? Stay tuned …

    Spain offers to host Cop25 climate talks after Chile withdraws
    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/10/31/spain-offers-host-cop25-climate-talks-chile-withdraws/

    Greta frets about how to get back to Europe – Former NYT reporter suggests climate activists ‘binge buy’ ‘carbon credits’ …
    https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/11/01/greta-frets-about-how-to-get-back-to-europe-former-nyt-reporter-suggests-climate-activists-binge-buy-carbon-credits/

  92. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3199642, posted on November 2, 2019 at 8:06 am

    got dozens of emails from kogan, which I didn’t even know about until I looked in my spam filter.

    Kogan is great, no office in Europe alas.
    They run Dick Smith as well check out prices on both for the same item.

  93. johanna

    Hey calli, thanks for the advice re my sprouter in the treefern pot.

    I think you are right, it certainly looks like an acacia. It came with the treefern, and acacias and treeferns have been known to cohabit.

    Said treefern is just having its first new burst of fronds – five so far. It’s under my kitchen window, so I get to watch the marvellous unravelling of the fronds day by day.

    Some sort of small, subsidiary fern has colonised the lower reaches. This treefern has brought the bush with it.

    It is against a brick wall on concrete – gets very hot in summer. But, so do its cousins living in granite or sandstone crevices in the bush.

    I drench it in water every day, and it is thriving.

  94. johanna

    Oh, and I put a tablespoon of Ozmacote in the top in September, with a top up in December.

  95. classical_hero

    calli, maybe they think you are a transsexual. 😂

  96. classical_hero

    http://white-rose-studies.org/site/mobile?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhite-rose-studies.org%2FLeaflet_4.html#2669

    This is an interesting leaflet from a group of Germans who were opposed to the Nazi regime. Naturally they were Christians.

    Every word that proceeds from Hitler’s mouth is a lie. When he says peace, he means war. And when he names the name of the Almighty in a most blasphemous manner, he means the almighty evil one, that fallen angel, Satan. His mouth is the stinking maw of hell and his might is fundamentally reprobate. To be sure, one must wage the battle against National Socialism using rational means. But whoever still does not believe in the actual existence of demonic powers has not comprehended by far the metaphysical background of this war. Behind the tangible, behind that which can be perceived by the senses, behind all factual, logical considerations stands The Irrational, that is the battle against the demon, against the messengers of the Anti-Christ. Everywhere and at all times, the demons have waited in darkness for the hour in which mankind is weak; in which he voluntarily abandons the position in the world order that is based on freedom and comes from God; in which he yields to the force of the Evil One, disengaging himself from the powers of a higher order. Once he has taken the first step of his own free will, he is driven to take the second and then the third and even more with furiously increasing speed. Everywhere and at every time of greatest danger, people have risen up – prophets, saints – who are aware of their freedom, who have pointed to the One God and with His aid have exhorted the people to turn in repentance. Mankind is surely free, but he is defenseless against the Evil One without the true God. He is like a ship without a rudder that is given over to the storm, like a nursing child with a mother, like a cloud that dissolves.

  97. egg_

    Tony Abbott has been asked to register as an agent of foreign ­influence under controversial ­national security laws, for addressing the Conservative Political ­Action Conference in August.

    Oh noes!!!
    Do Catallaxians have too register, too?

  98. egg_

    can Saint Greta of Catamaran, patron saint for the Age of Stupid, get from LA to Madrid by Dec 2 without using any fossil energy?

    Highly doubtful.
    What’s her carbon footprint, with all of her Circus troupe?

  99. Boambee John

    The decision by the department to target Mr Abbott and Mr Cooper comes amid a national ­debate over Chinese influence at Australian universities and ­research ­organisations. It coincided with a damning ICAC inquiry that has heard allegations the NSW ALP received a $100,000 donation in an Aldi shopping bag from a banned donor, billionaire property developer Huang Xiangmo.

    Our very own Deep State at work.

    No matter what the Parliamentary intent, the bureaucrats will use the legislation to advance the “Narrative”.

  100. Dianeh

    Has Bob Carr received a letter?

    Has Paul Keating registered?

  101. cohenite

    That’s one of the better liberty quotes:

    My criterion for welfare is BMI – body mass index. If people are truly poor, they will be skinny. Yet most so-called poor adults in this country are overweight or obese. Spare flab means spare dollars. If someone wants welfare on my taxes, I want them to be lean and hungry.

    — Sleetmute

  102. Bubbles

    Minister Porter also announced the suspension of all senior staff involved in the targetting of conservative figures. “A root and branch review will be conducted” he said. “The Government is determined to eradicate any ‘deep state political cliques’ established within the APS”. “Lois Lerners will never be tolerated by this Government” he declared.

    No? Oh well.

  103. Gab

    LOL!
    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    4 minutes ago

    Oh no, Beto just dropped out of race for President despite him saying he was “born for this.” I don’t think so!

  104. Dr Faustus

    Democrat Beto O’Rourke ends presidential bid

    The former Texas congressman tweeted: “Our campaign has always been about seeing clearly, speaking honestly, and acting decisively.

    “In that spirit: I am announcing that my service to the country will not be as a candidate or as the nominee.”

    Not often that you see a politician recognise the bleeding obvious.

  105. lotocoti

    can Saint Greta of Catamaran, patron saint for the Age of Stupid, get from LA to Madrid by Dec 2 without using any fossil energy?

    With a sufficiently sized trebuchet it should be doable.

  106. zyconoclast

    I can recommend wicked weasel, minimale animale, honey birdette. revolve is particularly persistent, if you click on their mini dress ads, the lovely models will haunt you for days if not weeks.

    I can hear the chains rattling now.

  107. Has the entire Federal Parliament received their letter?

  108. zyconoclast

    Frpm the ACCC

    Mazda in court for alleged unconscionable conduct and false or misleading representations

    The ACCC has instituted proceedings in the Federal Court against Mazda Australia Pty Ltd (Mazda) alleging that Mazda engaged in unconscionable conduct and made false or misleading representations in its dealings with consumers who bought one of seven new Mazda vehicles between 2013 and 2017.

    Consumer guarantees

  109. cohenite

    Fuck off troll and stick your rowe vomit up your arse.

  110. Old School Conservative

    A possible scenario:
    First Sarah Chidgey came for Tony Abbott and I did nothing.
    Then she came for CPAC organiser Andrew Cooper and I did nothing.
    “Just warming up”, trilled Sarah. “Next on the list are former deputy prime minister John ­Anderson, Liberal senator Amanda Stoker, Liberal MP Craig Kelly, former Labor leader Mark Latham and US Republican congressman Mark Meadows.” I still did nothing.
    Then Sarah came for me.

    Yeah nah. Christian Porter has to feel the heat on this one.

    (PS Respect to Mr Abbott and Andrew Cooper for telling Sarah Chidgey to get stuffed)

  111. Nick

    Has Bob Carr received a letter?

    Exactly

  112. Fred
    #3199529, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:56 am

    So I finally had a win over Centrelink. First they said I owed them $393.69 (from 2011!). Then they said I owed them $146.31. Now they say I owe them nothing.

    And what did it take to win, you may ask?

    2 years, 9 letters from Centrelink, 4 letters to Centrelink, 11 phone calls, 2 complaints (which were ignored), 1 freedom of information request, 2 emails to my employer from 2011 to obtain payslips, 1 letter to my Member of Parliament (which was ignored) and 2 reviews by ‘Subject Matter Experts’.

    I would love to know how much it all cost. And I was actually looking forward to going to the AAT.

    Fred

    It’s not a tragedy, it’s a comedy, you’re the unlucky antagonist.

    This is what I mean when I say the modern administrative state is a make work exercise. JC and twostix (and others, Tom, IT, C.L.) are right to characterise it as predatory.

    The cost of labour at centrelink could not be less than $40 per hour, possibly over $250 per hour for the EL and SES band tovarischi.

  113. 2dogs

    As a client State of the chicom Tyrant, their andrews kleptocracy have introduced ‘Patriotic Education’ to yarragrad.

    If the Chicoms did take over our education system, would it be any worse than it is now?

    Consider:
    * as evidenced by their treatment of the Uighurs muzzies, they are going to be deferential to Islam;
    * China is not as crazy socialist as our current crop of teachers, so one would expect an order to ‘tone it down’

  114. Mark A

    cohenite
    #3199678, posted on November 2, 2019 at 9:04 am

    Fuck off troll and stick your rowe vomit up your arse.

    You made a mistake, calling attention to it.
    He posted the same before but no bite, now he’s got his satisfaction.

  115. Oh come on
    #3199522, posted on November 2, 2019 at 12:38 am

    Elizabeth Warren announces $20-trillion Medicare for All proposal

    That’s 100% of US GDP, basically.

    Imagine if anyone in Australia announced a 1.8 trillion dollar healthcare system.

    I’d doubt even in the People’s Socialist Penal Soviet of Botany Bay, that we’d accept this absurdity.

    Then again, primary politics is not quite the same as Presidential election politics. Maybe she’s just trying to outdo Bernie.

  116. Tel

    If someone wants welfare on my taxes, I want them to be lean and hungry.

    The climate catastrophists are doing their best to make sure the poor are lean, hungry and cold so then they will be good to go taxing you a bit extra to cover that. Solved problem!!

  117. Rockdoctor

    2020 QLD State election starting gun has been fired by the Cairns Post this morning, the CP in the past have been responsible for some pretty grubby stories especially when Springborg was opposition leader. I expect no less this time and their parent in Bowen Hills. The amazing thing is the opposition should be miles in front but the bookies have them mostly scraping over the line at the moment, one thing is it is too late to change Freckless now. Get ready for 4 years of mediocrity if she manages to fall across the line…

  118. egg_

    8th Sockopath strikes again!

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meatless murderers.

    Pamela Anderson asks Trudeau to serve inmates vegan meals to save cash (via BCF)

    OTTAWA — Actress Pamela Anderson is asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to take meat and milk off prison menus to help the planet and the health of federal inmates — and save taxpayers some cash, to boot.

    The former Baywatch star makes the pitch in a letter to Trudeau part of her work with the animal-rights group PETA, writing that she hopes Canada embraces what she calls a “simple but effective way to reduce costs and improve lives.”

    She wants Canada’s federal penitentiaries to serve vegan meals of beans, rice, lentils, pasta, vegetables and fruits, which she bills as sources of all the nutrients one would need, “at a fraction of the cost of meats and cheeses,” since most vegan ingredients don’t need to be refrigerated.

    Prisoners would be very healthy. They would just love the food. Great sources of dietary fibre! And while on the saving the world idea, maybe the authorities could remove televisions and computers from the facilities too, since these appliances use so much CO2-producing electricity.

  120. Cassie of Sydney

    “Old School Conservative
    #3199681, posted on November 2, 2019 at 9:06 am”

    I can’t believe I have woken up this morning to read this in The Oz. I attended CPAC…do I get a letter? The proprietor of this blog….our great Doomlord…..attended and spoke at the conference…is he now a marked man? Has he received a letter?

    Well if I receive a letter I’ll be telling Sarah Chidgey to not just get “stuffed”…I’ll be telling her to GET FUCKED.

  121. zyconoclast

    Not much coverage of this mass shooting.

    Father of slain Deer Park children ‘devastated’

    The father of three children who were found shot to death with their mother inside the family’s Deer Park home this week said he was shocked at the idea his estranged wife could be responsible.

  122. Dr Faustus

    Details of Elizabeth Warren’s Medicare funding plan.

    Her centrepiece is having Government take over the role of health insurers – and taking $8.8 trillion in the process. More efficient, slicker and with less transaction costs. Apparently.

    The balance is funded by the evil rich, Big Corporations, and the economic benefit of healthier people and uncontrolled immigration flowing through the personal income tax system.

    If the Republicans can’t drive a truck through this, the US deserves communism.

  123. Tel

    Elizabeth Warren announces $20-trillion Medicare for All proposal

    That’s 100% of US GDP, basically.

    No, it’s supposedly $20 trillion over 10 years, don’t get your units mixed up. GDP is per annum which means it has units of dollars divided by time. Warren’s proposal is only 10% of US GDP.

    That said, when you propose a budget as big as that in an election campaign … what it means in real terms is that you don’t have a budget and once the majority of the money gets pissed away into the hands of cronies all over the place if could go twice, perhaps three times that.

  124. JC

    That’s 100% of US GDP, basically.

    Frank, I think Candidate High Cheeks is talking about over a period, like a decade. But yes, 20 trill is about the size of annual US output.

  125. Dr Faustus

    That’s 100% of US GDP, basically.

    That’s $20 trill across 2020 to 2029.
    Barely 10% of US GDP.
    A snip.

  126. Warren’s proposal is only 10% of US GDP.

    Okay, but they already have a public debt that is 100% of GDP.

    Also, you can assume the cost will double, as most government projects are want to do.

  127. Dr Faustus

    Warren’s proposal implicitly assumes Medicare will be up and funded and running pretty much straight after her inauguration.

    In practice the transitional processes – setting up the world’s biggest bureaucracy to administer collections and health payments, the impact on health delivery services themselves, brand new revenue compliance systems, huge litigation by the losers etc etc – would take years.
    Even not allowing for the help of the fuckup fairies.

    Then there are the timing issues on the imaginary boost to tax revenues.

    Looks like a Wounded Foot moment.

  128. JC

    Can I just suggest something here. 20 trill over 10 years is not that far off what we in Australia spend as Percentage of GDP. We spend just under 11% of GFP a year on healthcare which I assume adds Medicare and private together.

    High cheeks problems aren’t just healthcare but that she’s anti growth.

    I’m staying with a hedge fund manager pal and his focus is large cap stocks in Europe and the US. Today he was explaining to me the problems in Europe. Other than a handful of European large cap stocks, he reckons nearly large European large cap stocks are essentially stranded assets with massive problems… a shambles. The few that are not have massively high PE ratios because people are desperate to hold them. Contrast that with the US where US large caps are doing great.

    He explained to me the problems of the EU at the micro level. His firm is trying to register a successful US based fund in Europe. In order to do that, you have to go to the EU regulators and then you have to be approved by the regulators in every EU based country that have their own rules. Impossibly difficult. The whole place is a sham. Also reckons US PE ratios are going much higher.

  129. Snoopy

    This is what the modern totalitarian looks like.

  130. egg_

    Actress Pamela Anderson is asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to take meat and milk off prison menus to help the planet and the health of federal inmates — and save taxpayers some cash, to boot.

    The actress famous for her mammaries?
    /Beyond parody

  131. JC

    Okay, but they already have a public debt that is 100% of GDP.

    Also, you can assume the cost will double, as most government projects are want to do.

    Yes, you can make that assumption because what she is proposing would see very little copayment and everything free. It would be a Rolls Royce system entirely paid for by the state. Good luck with that.

  132. egg_

    This is what the modern totalitarian looks like.

    The 1950s look?
    Communism 101?

  133. Sarah Chidgey is why we should adopt impeachment processes and recall elections here in Australia.

    I would like to see an open vetting of her by the DSA and ASIO.

    Lady, you are our employee. Never forget this you pleb as you farm your cubes.

  134. notafan

    The bugman class flexes its chicken giblet, soy filled arms.

    This is purely political, nearly everyone in the APS is a leftwing bugman goon. They were being malevolent.

    this

    not “deep state’

    KKK set the scene with her hyperventilation labeling of them as white supremacists

  135. egg_

    Climate crusaders Leo and Greta Thunberg hit it off in California as actor says they’ve ‘made a commitment to support one another’ – but Swedish teen admits she still doesn’t know how she’ll get emission-free across the Atlantic

    Leo will give her a tip?

  136. My approach to the idea that being anti-government “goes too far”.

    No. Some of those fuckers are crazy. It’s like gaol, you gotta be the craziest guy in there to survive and be feared.

    Non violently and non-coercively of course. Lawfare is the weapon of choice.

  137. classical_hero

    Some estimates are saying the estimates are closer to $52 trillion. That’s ruinous, but I thought President Obama fixed healthcare.

  138. egg_

    KKK set the scene with her hyperventilation labeling of them as white supremacists

    Albino fingers “white supremacists”.
    /Dog whistle

  139. classical_hero

    Greta could swim, that’s CO² neutral.

  140. Another benefit of confederalism (no Commonwealth).

    Mz Chugly would not exist beyond a macrame stall in Lower Tilba.

  141. Up The Workers!

    “Foreign Affairs Transparency Scheme” (F.A.R.T.)???

    Sounds like another load of Leftard micturition and flatulence, to me.

  142. Old School Conservative

    Done.
    Angry comments sent to Morrison and Porter re the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.
    Pinched some ideas from Bubbles in recommending action.
    Funnily enough, I don’t feel like an angry old man shouting at the sky.
    Tried to sheet home responsibility with “your government”, “your department”, “your staff” etc.
    I’m hoping the communication systems set up to contact Morrison and Porter actually get read, summarised, and put in front of those men.

  143. struth

    These people aren’t farting enough.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘most vegan ingredients don’t need to be refrigerated’

    If that isn’t a warning, I don’t know what is.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Greta could swim, that’s CO² neutral.

    She’d walk on water, surely?

  146. Some History

    Greta frets about how to get back to Europe – Former NYT reporter suggests climate activists ‘binge buy’ ‘carbon credits’ …

    Greta™ Loonborg stranded. Looking to her mega-wealthy friends for a “solution”.

    Tee hee hee Hee Hee
    HA HA HAA
    HAA HAAAA HAAAA
    HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    https://imgur.com/UztrpfM

  147. notafan

    The second leaflet made a point that Dr Zarusky believes has not been researched widely enough: it refers to the regime’s having killed 300,000 Polish Je ws. This “was difficult to reconcile with the statement that was heard everywhere in Germany after the war: that one knew nothing about the Holocaust”, Dr Zarusky observes. The leaflets are striking in their clear-sighted view of the evil of the Nazi regime.

    article on the white rose group

  148. notafan

    Anderson’s attitude towards the incarcerated is very revealing

    animals have rights
    humans not so much

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    Sarah Chidgey, whoever she is can eat several bags of goat-flavoured Arabic dicks.

    If I’ve got this right, she wants some sort of register of punters under the ‘influence of foreign powers’.

    First, define ‘influence’.
    Then, define ‘power’.
    Then, given the multiculti spirit infesting this country at present, define ‘foreign’.

    After that, explain how you plan to keep your little red book current, what criteria there are for inclusion on Sarah’s List and under what circumstances, if any, one could be removed from it.

    There are entire Federal departments with thousands of staff and unlimited resources dedicated to this sort of thing, and they freely admit they can’t keep up.

    So – in summary, Ms Chidgey – dicks. Goat flavoured dicks, and lots of them.

  150. Farmer Gez

    Absolutely pissing down here.
    The unbaled hay in windrows has the desired effect. On the bright side there is still green in the crops and this will finish them nicely.
    Pity for the Wycheproof Cup. It might clear in a few hours for the racegoers but the track will be changing by the minute. The local committee would have had it at a good three or a four if they watered all week but this storm rain will be a big challenge.
    If the event is called off the club does their money cold.

  151. Some History

    Clover Moore-Onn – “Sydney City Council is proud to be smokefree”.

    https://imgur.com/F7DWFuH

    Tee hee hee Hee Hee
    HA HA HAA
    HAA HAAAA HAAAA
    HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  152. John Constantine

    https://www.zamnesia.com/blog-how-to-extract-lsa-n1490

    Morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are potent natural sources of the psychoactive substance LSA. Here is how to extract LSA from the seeds of the plants.

    Various psychedelic compounds are found in nature: within plants, fungi, and animal sources. Many psychonauts have heard of the titans of DMT, LSD, psilocybin, and mescaline. Besides these extremely powerful and better known mind-altering substances, there are a few that are less known and often overlooked. One such substance is d-lysergic acid amide (LSA), otherwise known as ergine. LSA is a naturally occurring alkaloid that is structurally similar to LSD. LSA causes a comparatively less intense, though by no means weak, psychedelic experience.

    Vast amount of plants have ‘Interesting’ effects on people, but is heresy to suggest that vegetable matter, processed through patented intellectual property for superprofit, could possibly be anything other than magic from the vegetable gods.

    https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20110126/eating-trans-fats-linked-to-depression#1

    Those who took in the most trans fats, however, had up to a 48% increased risk of depression.

    The unhealthy fats, says Sanchez-Villegas, are believed to lead to biological changes in the body linked with both heart disease and depression.

    The joke about depressed and suicidal and anxious soyboys mightn’t be that funny.

    Soma, Comrades.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “So – in summary, Ms Chidgey – dicks. Goat flavoured dicks, and lots of them.”

    Yep…and Ms Chidgey…..a name straight out of a novel by Charles Dickens….can choke on the dicks.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    The Wyche Cup. Know it well. An outstanding social event, where the beer flows like wine.

    From my recollections, horses are somehow involved.

  155. Nick

    Waiting for the barrier draw, though any thoughts on the Cup?

  156. John Constantine

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90421659/were-very-close-to-disrupting-the-cow

    By 2030, these scientists estimate the number of cows in the U.S. will have fallen by 50% and the beef and dairy industries will have collapsed as animal-derived foods are replaced by modern equivalents.

    All other livestock industries will suffer a similar fate, while businesses throughout the supply chain, from processing plants and renderers to crop farmers and tractor manufacturers, will be hit hard.

    This is a protein disruption driven by economics. We can now program microorganisms to produce almost any protein we want because of huge advances in precision biology (the convergence of biology and information technologies) and a process we call precision fermentation (PF). Today, 90% of American-made cheese uses PF proteins. (This is not genetic modification of foods. Proteins have no genetic material so they can’t be genetically modified.) The cost of PF is falling exponentially, from $1 million per kilogram in 2000 to about $100 today. Assuming existing technologies, we project these costs will fall to $10 per kilogram by 2023 to 25. PF proteins will be five times cheaper than animal proteins by 2030 and 10 times cheaper by 2035.

    Soma, frankenfoods and soyzheimers loom, Comrades.

  157. struth

    I couldn’t sleep because of the plight of the farmers………………………….

    There’s drought near the east coast, and AJ has reduced me to tears.
    I think about the poor bastards having to sell up and come and live in my street.

    Weren’t the Liberal party in power when these laws regarding foreign influence were introduced?

    Must have been very poorly worded law that was enacted, allowing our communist deep state to use them to belt people promoting western values.

  158. John Constantine

    As protein after protein derived from animals is replaced by less-expensive, higher-quality PF alternatives, it becomes more expensive to produce those animal products in the face of decreasing demand, triggering a death spiral of increasing prices and reversing economies of scale.

    While this disruption is inevitable, decision-makers can affect how fast it happens, how widely it spreads, and who benefits. Will this be a market designed to promote openness, transparency, and competition? Or will it be more like the pharmaceutical industry, dominated by a few monopolies with the power to pervert the benefits?

    The reversing economies of scale are how the turnbullites murray darling basin plan sets about rewilding rural australia into the desired Clearances.

    Don’t need to dump all the water unused out to sea, just enough to disrupt the rural economy hard enough in a greater percentage of years and away the system goes.

  159. Cactus:
    Thanks for the explanation. Block caving seems to be quite a simple process – although the initial animation was rather unclear. In fact it seemed to introduce a bit of uncertainty into the mental picture I’d formed.
    Ta.

  160. Some History

    Leonardo DiCaprio Praises Greta Thunberg as a ‘Leader of Our Time’ After They Meet

    The actor, who has spent years working to protect the environment through his Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation, posted two shots on Instagram Friday documenting his meeting with the Swedish teenager who has captivated the world with her mission.
    And DiCaprio, 44, counts himself amongst the 16-year-old’s most ardent admirers.
    “There are few times in human history where voices are amplified at such pivotal moments and in such transformational ways – but @GretaThunberg has become a leader of our time. History will judge us for what we do today to help guarantee that future generations can enjoy the same livable planet that we have so clearly taken for granted,” DiCaprio wrote.

    https://people.com/movies/leonardo-dicaprio-praises-greta-thunberg-as-a-leader-of-our-time-after-they-meet/

    The video producer, eager to use his new laser pointer, moved the laser light along the ground. Like two super-charged cats, DiCrapio and Greta chased the light… and chased the light. It kept them – and the producer – amused for hours.

    Leonardo DiCrapio and Greta™ Saving™ The Planet™:

    https://imgur.com/wwhVfVq

  161. egg_

    Spain offers to host Cop25 climate talks after Chile withdraws
    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/10/31/spain-offers-host-cop25-climate-talks-chile-withdraws/

    Aren’t Spain one of the EU manyana culture PIGS?

  162. John Constantine

    The potential for the Golden Ton to superprofit from the Soma revolution makes the Opium Wars look like a sideshow.

    Windmills and solar panels were just chickenfeed first out of the unswervable signed Paris accords.

    Once agriculture is ‘decarbonised’ the profits from everybody living off industrial waste posing as food, enforced by rationing, competition destroyed by rewilding will be unprecedented.

    Your social credit rating controls your access to patented rations of medicated State good-for-youness.

    I have always loved daniel andrews.

  163. classical_hero

    It looks like Beto is a Mexican’t.

  164. classical_hero

    John C, don’t stop clapping.

  165. John Constantine

    Far healthier than industrial animal meat, modern foods will help to reduce heart disease, obesity, cancer, and diabetes, which are estimated to cost Americans $1.7 trillion annually. Removing animals from food production will reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 65% by 2035. It will also free up a landmass as large as the Louisiana Purchase.

    The business opportunities are enormous. Everyone needs to eat. Modern food offers the promise of high-quality, nutritious, inexpensive food—and the opportunity to build a multi-trillion-dollar industry that will soon feed the world. This disruption has already started. The time to lead is now.

  166. Geriatric Mayfly

    Greta frets about how to get back to Europe

    Nearly that time of year when St. Greta could walk from Alaska to Spitzbergen across the Arctic Ocean, and a short trip by coracle from there to Norway. The irony aside, she could research the melting ice-cap en route and count the poley bears.

  167. Spain is one of the PIIGS offering sops to Acciona, climate scammers extraordinaire.

    They’re professional welfare wastrels.

  168. calli

    Someone mentioned Chidgey and Dickens. 😁

    This glorious establishment had been early in the field, when the one sublime principle involving the difficult art of governing a country, was first distinctly revealed to statesmen. It had been foremost to study that bright revelation and to carry its shining influence through the whole of the official proceedings. Whatever was required to be done, the Circumlocution Office was beforehand with all the public departments in the art of perceiving — HOW NOT TO DO IT.

    The Circumlocution Office

  169. EvilElvis

    Attorney-General Christian Porter conceded the actions taken by his department

    It’s about time Australian voters conceded that this whole pile of shit is governed by faceless, slimeball bureacrats and gormless public service with the theatre of parliament and representation being for entertainment only.

  170. calli

    Who knew Mr Tite Barnacle had a girlfriend?

  171. Entropy

    Weren’t the Liberal party in power when these laws regarding foreign influence were introduced?

    Must have been very poorly worded law that was enacted, allowing our communist deep state to use them to belt people promoting western values.

    The narcissistic dickheads are too dim to ever consider how laws will inevitably be used by their enemies. It’s the old story, any government funded institution gets taken over by the left to be used for their ends. Even worse, they do not comprehend who their real enemies are, and seem to prefer sucking up to them than their constituents.

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    struth, earlier;

    The proposition that kiddies are naturally lefties or not.

    As the owner/operator of one young Australian that I’m aware of, I reckon young’uns develop the characteristics of lefties from an early age – without, of course, being lefties because they wouldn’t know what it was. Everything turns up for free. Tucker, clothes, toys, school books and so on. Run out of something? Demand more of it until you get clipped behind the ear and told to pull your head in.

    Reliant on OPM, if you will.

    Of course, this idea will be fostered by teachers. Because they’re teachers, and thus are a) semi-literate at best, b) themselves reliant on OPM as tax eaters and believe that free money comes from the magic tree, and c) work two thirds of the year and bitch about it for the remaining third.

    Speaking only for myself, I believe the answer is this:

    As a parent, be a better role model than any of your kids’ teachers. Teach them nothing is free, and about accountability and the value of a dollar. And in the case of sons, how to be a man.

    If your son (anyone’s son) thinks Mr Chatsworth-Udderly from Social Sciences, with his scrawny noodle arms, man-bun, faint wispy beard and organic footwear is a better role model than you and someone to be looked up to, you have failed as a parent.

  173. John Constantine

    https://newfoodeconomy.org/move-over-plant-based-meat-fungi-steaks-are-here/

    In a press release published Tuesday, the company calls itself “the first in market to produce whole cuts of plant-based meat in the form of steak and chicken breasts.” That’s a bit of a misnomer, though. Fungi aren’t plants at all, but a distinct, often-maligned biological kingdom with their own unique characteristics. While finished Meati steaks will contain a small amount of plant ingredients, they’re made mostly from filamentous fungi, a kind of fast-growing micro-organism that branches quickly into thread-like networks of cells called mycelium. (Citing intellectual property concerns, the company wouldn’t say which strain or species it is using.) The process means Emergy’s production procedure can take place entirely in a lab or factory, sidestepping agriculture completely, and opening up a new universe of sustainability implications.

    Once Paris cuts cow numbers fifty percent, reversing economies of scale for meat. combined with crony State compliance regulations and subsidies for sewrage rebirthing fungus plants will be the new rivers of gold for The Ton.

    Comrades.

  174. bespoke

    The MSM should start referring to ex PM’S and MP’s by there current job descriptions.

  175. FROM THE NRL THREAD

    The Dummy Terrorgraph has some recent article about ‘da greatest minds in da NRL’ putting a plan together to make league great again, but I’m not paying to read the Ballina local paper; nor do I have any faith in the Great Peter “Manly Sharks” Beattie.

    Really, does butchering the rules more, more blackfella and vagina rounds make anyone excited as having Tina Turner, ET, Elle McPherson and Ricky Walford as representatives of the game like in the late 1980s and early 1990s, you know, when RL was absolutely dominant?

    Sure, we just need a Samoan lesbian round and the RLIF will rival FIFA.

    Delusional cock brained muppets.

  176. Boambee John

    Some History
    #3199741, posted on November 2, 2019 at 10:08 am
    Clover Moore-Onn – “Sydney City Council is proud to be smokefree”.

    Has she banned Mary Jane? Or is she only prejudiced against one product?

  177. Shy Ted

    Someone needs to tell David Rowe and eighth of a dick that the Libs are anti-coal and Labor are pro-coal. All the other cartoonists have got it. Rowe? Usually takes lefties 2 years to catch up.

  178. egg_

    It’s about time Australian voters conceded that this whole pile of shit is governed by faceless, slimeball bureacrats and gormless public service with the theatre of parliament and representation being for entertainment only.

    We’re Governed by the EU by proxy.
    Their Greta being the stage show.

  179. Banning smokes and vaping is an attack on the working class; the ruling political class doesn’t really want marijuana legalisation, they want a Frankenstein with lucrative deals for mates, you should read the draft bill Ley had under Turnbull, absolutely appalling.

    They want to ban the working class, tax them away and keep on hitting the middle class and clip the tickets of producers.

  180. Percy Popinjay

    1. open image in new tab.

    Tom – can’t you just copy the link from that point? I do it here all the time, via chrome.

    e.g. https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/06a2fc0ee291137d4652785682c18af8

    Krudelkers

  181. egg_

    the company calls itself “the first in market to produce whole cuts of plant-based meat in the form of steak and chicken breasts.”

    We now have Qwerty chook burgers made from plants?
    Woke burgers?

  182. John Constantine

    The working class are no longer Tax Slaves, the new Big Australia now sees the working class as a vast herd of consumption machines, and if they can Borrow, the consumption fueled by welfare and loansharks means that Debtslavery of the old working class makes the Golden Ton richer, faster, than Tax Enslavement ever did.

  183. How are they going to do plant based “white children” or “rocky mountain oysters”?

  184. egg_

    Someone needs to tell David Rowe and eighth of a dick that the Libs are anti-coal and Labor are pro-coal. All the other cartoonists have got it. Rowe? Usually takes lefties 2 years to catch up.

    1/8th Dong?

  185. Percy Popinjay

    BTW, who the f*ck is ricky nixon and why would anyone with a functioning brain give a rodent’s backside about his imaginary “breakdown”?

  186. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Delusional cock brained muppets.’

    Naturally.

    I am now convinced there’s some sort of competition going amongst sporting code CEOs in this country, Trading Places style, over who can introduce the most stupid variant of actual sport into their code and still get people through the gate.

    ‘Hey, Pete! Gillon’s doubled his chick footy quota this year!’
    ‘Oh yeah? He’ll shit himself when he finds out about our Intersex Round!’

  187. Snoopy

    I’m waiting for reports of Australia’s famously curious journalists asking the likes of Paul Keating, Sam Dastyari and Bob Brown if they have received demands accompanied by threats of gaol time from Ms Chidgey.

  188. egg_

    And DiCaprio, 44, counts himself amongst the 16-year-old’s most ardent admirers.

    How many times does 44 go into 16?

  189. Percy Popinjay

    Qwerty chook burgers made from plants

    Said no one in human history, evah.

    Until now.

  190. Oh dear god egg. He dumps them at 25 but Bar Rafeli never looked like a downy when she was 18.

  191. I am now convinced there’s some sort of competition going amongst sporting code CEOs in this country, Trading Places style, over who can introduce the most stupid variant of actual sport into their code and still get people through the gate.

    If that’s the case, hats off to their world class trolling.

  192. “This bleedin’ song isn’t ours, it is as much yours as ours, even when I butcher notes, so please join in now, but we own the copyright over it for perpetuity you commoner gits…”

  193. Knuckle Dragger

    Answering your question, Percy:

    1. Nobody; and
    2. Nobody.

  194. Percy Popinjay

    when he finds out about our Intersex Round

    Gallop: “I’m inta sex – my pot plants have never had it so good!”

  195. 8th Dan

    I’m hoping the communication systems set up to contact Morrison and Porter actually get read, summarised, and put in front of those men.

    Not usually the way it works. Fat Mo and Prissy Chrissy might get to sign a bland response (a Ministerial) prepared by one of their office lackeys. Fat Mo’s might just be a concisely worded flick pass to Prissy Chrissy.

  196. struth

    As a parent, be a better role model than any of your kids’ teachers. Teach them nothing is free, and about accountability and the value of a dollar. And in the case of sons, how to be a man.

    If your son (anyone’s son) thinks Mr Chatsworth-Udderly from Social Sciences, with his scrawny noodle arms, man-bun, faint wispy beard and organic footwear is a better role model than you and someone to be looked up to, you have failed as a parent.

    Children of course are parasites.
    That’s natural.
    They have to be, and did not ask to be here.
    They are of course, their parents responsibility and even a child knows that it must look to no other than it’s parents for sustenance.
    Not every body else.
    Then they go to school…………………………………………………

    We are also at a stage where the parents, now in their 30’s and some younger, much younger, have just been brainwashed too.

    My point is it’s too late to blame the parents, they are mostly already the victims of left wing brainwashing, which was already well underway when I went to school.
    The schools have children and their parents, crying in the streets, such is the brainwashing.

    The parents are a lost cause, and if they don’t learn for themselves, they are lost.
    All we can do is fight the education system, so they stop the child abuse on the next generation and I know for a fact, there are some very bad eggs there, and the worse the higher up , and the dickhead teachers are usually young know nothing fat lazy bints with the integrity and intelligence of a gnat.

    It all starts in the Schools.
    Arky quit because of it, and he unfortunately, is more the norm than the rarity.

  197. Some History

    Far healthier than industrial animal meat, modern foods will help to reduce heart disease, obesity, cancer, and diabetes, which are estimated to cost Americans $1.7 trillion annually. Removing animals from food production will reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 65% by 2035. It will also free up a landmass as large as the Louisiana Purchase.
    The business opportunities are enormous. Everyone needs to eat. Modern food offers the promise of high-quality, nutritious, inexpensive food—and the opportunity to build a multi-trillion-dollar industry that will soon feed the world. This disruption has already started. The time to lead is now.

    https://imgur.com/uq0BEyG

  198. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Fat Mo’
    ‘Fatty 5D’

    Not even trying any more, 8th DOLB*. You still write like a chick**.

    *Daughter of Liability Bob
    **Acknowledgment of the name it calls itself, before it puts the lotion on its skin.

  199. Percy Popinjay

    Everyone needs to eat

    communism has already solved that “wicked problem”.

    Tovarisch.

  200. John64

    Greta could swim, that’s CO² neutral.

    Only if she held her breath the entire way.

  201. Eyrie

    “After that, explain how you plan to keep your little red book current, what criteria there are for inclusion on Sarah’s List and under what circumstances, if any, one could be removed from it.”
    Dunno about Sarah’s list KD but she may now be on a few people’s lists. I’m sure most of the Cats have a list don’t they?
    The guy mentioned in here did. https://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193

  202. Percy Popinjay

    C’mon, peoples. I think poor ol’ Tom would be feeling very excluded at this point.

  203. 8th Dan

    Fat Mo ©
    Prissy Chrissy ©

  204. Fair shake of the Sauce bottle

    Has Bob Carr received a letter?

    Has Paul Keating registered?

    Has Turnbull registered?

  205. dover_beach

    How does a CPAC conference suggest ‘foreign influence’? When you look at the act and its explanatory material its pretty clear that Sarah Chidgey over stepped the mark in this instance and exposed her biases at the same time.

  206. Roger

    This disruption has already started.

    Wokeworths – the supermarket company that promotes an indigenous voice to parliament being enshrined in the constitution but systematically steals from its already poorly paid employees – seem to be investing heavily in plant based meat substitutes, to the extent that the meat section at my local has been re-arranged and reduced to accomodate them. From my observation many of the “chicken” products appear to be both less healthy (high sodium, many other additives) and more expensive than the real thing.

  207. Dr Fred Lenin

    Farmer Gez ,thats always a sure way to encourage heavy rain , cut the hay ,get it just too wet to bale , then Hughie sends it down in buckets . My late Father in law, a dairy farmer swore by this theory .
    Any how the rain will fill the tanks and dams and the grass will grow again for the next cut ,if the state dont take their water from you ,as you know the government own the rain ,though it wont do what they tell it .
    Keep plugging away Gez its a way of life isnt it ,had my share of it ,I was barred from farming for being too optimistic ,thsts a no no. .

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    struth,

    If my kid grows up to be a space wasting POS it’s my fault, regardless of what the ‘teachers’ try and tell him.

    They are not role models. I am. He will learn fiscal responsibility*, a work ethic and how to comport himself from me. No teacher can impart that knowledge borne of experience.

    I can’t speak for other parents. If they’re happy to put up with that shit then I can’t stop them. They’re just flogs who breed kidflogs and push blame elsewhere whilst acting surprised when their spawn turn out to be useless net zero contributors to society.

    Don’t get me wrong – I’d cheer wildly if every school in the country was closed over the weekend and turned into strip clubs. But if that can’t happen (booo) and the schools push agendas, then all that means is parents have to work a bit harder – which, of course, is a worthwhile investment.

    I’ve won. I’ve beaten the schools. And I know this because when I questioned my son and heir about his thoughts on the Great Climate Strike a couple of weeks back, he started laughing and said this exact sentence:

    ‘Yeah, some of the kids at my school went. But they were all the retards.’

    *Admittedly, this is someone whose retirement plan hinges on Keno results.

  209. 2dogs

    How many times does 44 go into 16?

    Could be lining up a future prospect.

  210. stackja

    On Halloween night, Google discloses Chrome zero-day exploited in the wild
    On Halloween, Google releases Chrome 78.0.3904.87 to patch a Chrome zero-day discovered by Kaspersky exploited in the wild.

    The March Chrome zero-day was also a use-after-free vulnerability.

    Chrome 78.0.3904.87 is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. The release will slowly roll out to all Chrome users in the coming weeks but users can trigger a manual update right now by visiting the browser’s Help > About Google Chrome section.

  211. C.L.

    Oops …

    Indonesian cleric who helped draft caning law flogged for adultery.

    Is it just me or do his lashes seem almost symbolic while hers are quite severe?

  212. Dads little girl tries make up on him and brother.
    Quite talented.

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