Open Forum: November 2, 2019

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  1. Tom

    You son of a bitch.
    That protest being upheld did me out of 25k.

    Ahahahahahaha!!!

    Do you understand why your volatile investment has an interest rate of 2,500,000% Didn’t think so.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    mh

    #3202407, posted on November 5, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    Well done Tom.

    You’re good at it.

    Probably justice.
    Time spent studying the form vs “I’ll have the one with three white socks coupled with the grey one.”

  3. Helen

    Well that is the end of tits out Tuesday, hooray. Well done litttle Aussie ripper. Jockey makes speech to rival Oakshiittee, but fair enough, he has been trying for many years.

    Best dressed from what I saw was Mrs Hunt. All class.

  4. mh

    Just seen finish of Cup for the first time.

    Multiple horses fighting it out on the line. Great for Australian racing.

    And to think our national broadcaster wants to shut the industry down.

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    The racing industry suffered a humiliating black eye today when up to seven protesters waved placards outside a Newmarket entrance to the course.

  6. Tom

    For Cats with a talent for mathematics and probability and risk, I strongly recommend The Sportsman — best form guide ever invented. Eight dollars per copy.

  7. Helen

    What was that Mumm’s thing Usain Bolt did with a pirate’s sword? Some kind of tap challenge? What is that all about?

  8. mh

    I put a line though horses drawn wide.

    That’s ruled me out of both Cups.

  9. EvilElvis

    Not sure how happy the owners of the horse forth across the line would be when the trainers decided to leave them parked in forth and not protest.

    About as happy as the owners of second if he’d got involved and backed the fourth?

  10. Mark from Melbourne

    Well, there’s a nice $2900 jumps in!

    First Cup trifecta I can ever recall getting up… and we owned a third placegetter back in the day, so you’d have thought I might have got it that year!!

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    Electrical brown outs in Istanbul, as a big draw down on power is put into effect to make the lady sing.

    Sister of slain ISIS leader arrested in intelligence ‘gold mine,’ Turkey says

  12. Leigh Lowe

    Not sure how happy the owners of the horse forth across the line would be when the trainers decided to leave them parked in forth and not protest.

    Betting aside, the prize money differential is huge.
    I would be giving the trainers a spray for being “jolly good chaps” and not protesting.
    Prize money:-
    First – $4.4m
    Second – $1 meg
    Third – $500k
    Fourth – $250k

  13. dover_beach

    If these women are driving the world

    They made a movie about that:

  14. Cardimona

    ScoMo tipped the cup winner this morning in a short clip I caught on Sky.

    Will that improve his street-cred with punters?

  15. calli

    Anonymous official behind infamous NYT op-ed to release book on Trump White House

    Christmas pressie for that-hard-to-buy-for uncle?

    What a novel idea.

  16. Farmer Gez

    Mark from Melbourne
    #3202433, posted on November 5, 2019 at 4:51 pm
    Well, there’s a nice $2900 jumps in!

    First Cup trifecta I can ever recall getting up… and we owned a third placegetter back in the day, so you’d have thought I might have got it that year!!

    A mate just picked up $11,00o on the same. Punts a lot so I’m not sure he’s ahead.
    Funny thing, got an unsolicited call from a crowd called Greenhill investments from London about 3.30.
    The lad introduced himself and I said “ You’re quick”.
    “Why” he said.
    “ I just backed the Melbourne Cup winner” was my reply.

  17. MatrixTransform

    Brain bleach required

    They all look like jockeys … except the one that looks like horse

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Frankie goes on holiday.

  19. DrBeauGan

    Human beans are very peculiar animals. Different groups enjoyed very different things:
    1. Watching horses run around in circles.
    2. Wowsing.
    3. Protesting other people watching horses run around in circles.

    None of these do anything for me, but hey, whatever turns you on. I can’t help feeling that groups 2. and 3. are a miserable bunch of buggers, though.

  20. bespoke

    Congrats to the winners.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anonymous official behind infamous NYT op-ed to release book on Trump White House

    Well that solves this problem.

    Green scold’s latest: End frequent flyer miles, drive-thrus and… toilet paper (4 Nov)

    “It’s just unacceptable that a company like P&G is making toilet paper, a product that is used for seconds and flushed, from virgin pulp,” Natural Resources Defense Council corporate campaign manager Shelley Vinyard lamented at P&G’s annual meeting of shareholders.

    Hopefully the publishers will add perforations to make the book easier to use.

  22. Helen

    Even better would be an ad campaign for greenies

    MoPebbles a bag of smooth rocks that can be used and reused, simply wipe and then rinse for the next time!

    I think Mo rules are three rocks per time so there could be a single persn bag of say, 6 rocks or a family sized bag of your determination.

  23. classical_hero

    In Monday Night Football, a black cat managed to get onto the field. The Carolina Panthers are enquiring about his playing status.

  24. Helen

    Are you guys all drinking, still? (Those that arent wowsers – see BGan)

    Well there is no more putting it off, termination pays and super to pay.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Human beans are very peculiar animals. Different groups enjoyed very different things:
    1. Watching horses run around in circles.
    2. Wowsing.
    3. Protesting other people watching horses run around in circles.

    DrB – You’ve seen Kingsman The Secret Service yes? Suits and umbrellas for freedom?
    Well now consider the corresponding hidden sisterhood of ladies’ hat makers. It explains everything.

  26. Tom

    Human beans are very peculiar animals.

    No, they’re not, Beaugy. Most people are simple — which smartarse elitists think makes them simpletons, but it doesn’t.

    I’m disappointed that, as a mathematician, you have zero interest in punting. Not losing money on the punt (as opposed to trying to win it) is a fascinating discipline.

  27. MatrixTransform

    The restaurant in question in an earlier post was not identified as being in Melbourne.

    I live here and have a list as well.
    Would sent you the list but its a 20MB file.

    There’s a particular cafe under one of our major client’s buildings.
    Somebody asked me once why we never go there for coffee.

    My view is that it isn’t because I think they’re infantile dead-shits with man-buns .
    No, it is because they despise me and my type and I can see it in their eyes and demeanour.

    me not going there is a natural consequence of their hostile politic

  28. DrBeauGan

    I’m disappointed that, as a mathematician, you have zero interest in punting. Not losing money on the punt (as opposed to trying to win it) is a fascinating discipline.

    I don’t think people who work differently from me are simpletons, Tom. Just different, and that’s something to celebrate.

    I take punts on shares, but not on horses because I don’t know anything about horses. I’ve led a sheltered life. You obviously have studied form and are good at it. I’d be terrible.

  29. Whalehunt fun

    Know nothing about horses. Bought $60 of sweeps. Got b as co $136. Seems to me this cannot be a frequent event so will cease now.

  30. DrBeauGan

    On Spiky’s recommendation, I’m booked in to see the latest terminator movie tonight. We have similar low tastes in movies, so I’m following her advice.

    I saw an art movie once. It was appalling, pretentious rubbish. Never again.

    I’ll post a review unless you all beg me not to. 😀

  31. Payday lending still has better odds and payouts than racing. The TAB is just pitiful. I had a hell of a day once, I picked four winners from four races. A 400% return whittled down to 130%. Thanks the lord for competition.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle

    On Spiky’s recommendation, I’m booked in to see the latest terminator movie tonight.

    Nolte: All-Girl ‘Terminator’ Projected to Lose $100 Million
    Get Woke, Go Broke: ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Bombs At The Box Office

    You’re welcome.

  33. Dr BG

    Is it the one where Sasha Grey acts as a real life canvas, getting painted by all kinds of different guys?

  34. calli

    I thought that was The Pillow Book.

  35. Cardimona

    “Centrelink customer service manager in Port Hedland.

    Something wrong with Hall’s Creek, KD?

    I used Alice Springs Centrelink in a letter I sent to several papers yesterday.
    The Gold Coast paper printed it verbatim.
    The Oz printed it with the posting changed to “Woop Woop”.
    I can’t imagine why….

    The Editor

    Full disclosure; I’m an “agent of foreign influence” – at least I am according to the Morrison LNP government’s Federal Attorney General’s department.

    Which “foreign influence”? Looking at the 206 countries listed on Wikipedia I’d say “none of the above”.

    You see, I’m not a Marxist-Leninist, socialist, communist, globalist, fascist, watermelon-environmentalist, crony-corporatist, anarchist, or religio-political ideologue.

    No, I’m an Australian patriot and I represent the sovereign Australia that my father fought to defend in World War Two – a state now regarded by our own bureaucrats as “foreign”.

    If ever there was a siren call that the Gramscian left’s “long march through the institutions” is complete, this debacle is it.

    That the Morrison government hasn’t transferred those responsible to the Alice Springs Centrelink says all you need to know.

    (128 words)

  36. DrBeauGan

    I’ve seen the reviews and comments on the latest terminator’s terminal wokeness, but Spiky doesn’t do wokeness, so she might have just not noticed it, so I might not notice it either. If it preaches at me I should probably notice and find it objectionable, but I’m pretty much immune to feminist thought, if thought is the word I want.

  37. I used Alice Springs Centrelink in a letter I sent to several papers yesterday.
    The Gold Coast paper printed it verbatim.
    The Oz printed it with the posting changed to “Woop Woop”.
    I can’t imagine why….

    Good stuff.

  38. calli

    So, they admit they’re killers.

    But, hey, we can create turbulance and drive them off. Sure they can.

    Or, if they persist, we’ll shut it down. Sure they will.

    It’s like being lied to by a five year old.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG

    Is it the one where Sasha Grey acts as a real life canvas, getting painted by all kinds of different guys?

    You must be referring to the arty movie I was dragged along to. No, that wasn’t it. I don’t recall much about it, the mind defends itself by wiping horrors from memory, leaving just enough to stop you making the same mistake again.

  40. Siltstone

    Calli, thanks for link to bird killer wind farms. Funny how the precautionary principle” does not apply to projects greenies love

  41. Eyrie

    calli, I wonder what would happen if we built a bunch of R/C realistic looking “eagles”?

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    So, they admit they’re killers.

    I had an eagle fly over my house today, harried by several Cafe Bruce customers. Which was a trifle unfair of them since the eagle was only en route to the lake to do some fishing.

  43. feelthebern:

    You son of a bitch.
    That protest being upheld did me out of 25k.

    That’s tough, mate.
    Commiserations.

  44. The Barking Toad

    I suspect one or two of Megan’s “advisers” have been given the arse.

    Jumped on a bandwagon that wasn’t there because – poor little horse

    Celebrities delegate stupidity to flunkies so they don’t have to do it themselves.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, link didn’t work. Try again.

    White-bellied Sea-Eagle

    (BIBY’s Bird Finder is excellent.)

  46. calli

    I had a pair of koels in the backyard yesterday, feasing off some berries. They were fun to watch – the boy picked each berry carefully and gave it to the female, then took one for himself. The pantomime went on until there was no fruit left.

    Koels have better manners than many humans. And they sure know how to woo a lady.

  47. Geriatric Mayfly

    IT put to splendid use. Porch thieves snapping up parcels get a big surprise. This maybe of interest to those who follow the Ones and Zeros here.

    https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo

  48. cohenite

    There you have it: the swamp is self-sustaining; Parkinson was the green voice in the idiot turdball’s ear and as much as anyone responsible for the green disease and it’s censorship of sceptics:

    High-profile lefties add weight to conservative concerns

    Simon Benson The Australian November 4, 2019

    Australia’s former top bureaucrat, Martin Parkinson, has warned that the risk to free speech infecting university campuses is a symptom of a broader societal schism threatening the country’s knowledge base and shutting down rational debate. The former secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet will today be announced as the chancellor of Macquarie University in Sydney, replacing former NSW treasurer Michael Egan, who has stepped down after 11 years.

    In an exclusive interview with The Australian, Dr Parkinson — a strong advocate of free speech — said the stifling of legitimate debate on issues such as climate change posed a “big risk” for the broader community.

    “I think universities are symptomatic of a problem we have in the broader community where we are losing the capacity of civilised discourse and debate … It’s becoming too shouty,” he said….

    High-profile lefties add weight to conservative concerns ; what a bunch of bullshit.

  49. Rockdoctor

    koels

    Nice, storm birds are back… Taking they are Eastern Koels Cali?

  50. Tom

    Incredible news. Rostropovich has a fractured pelvis after running in the Melbourne Cup, but will make a full recovery. This is unheard of. Amazing animal husbandry.

  51. johanna

    Just been looking at some of the pictures of the outfits in the Birdcage at the Cup.

    OMG.

    Surely these people got dressed in the dark. And those orange, fake tan legs – horrible.

    What blows me away is that a lot of these outfits cost a motza – easily into the low four figures. And they are unlikely to be worn again, especially after the well deserved ridicule dished out in the msm and on social media.

    There seem to be a lot of people out there with more money than sense, and no taste at all.

  52. In an exclusive interview with The Australian, Dr Parkinson — a strong advocate of free speech — said the stifling of legitimate debate on issues such as climate change posed a “big risk” for the broader community.

    He’s a lying, condescending prick.

    PS

    Please support Peter Ridd.

    https://au.gofundme.com/f/peter-ridd-legal-action-fund

  53. Surely these people got dressed in the dark. And those orange, fake tan legs – horrible.

    What blows me away is that a lot of these outfits cost a motza – easily into the low four figures. And they are unlikely to be worn again, especially after the well deserved ridicule dished out in the msm and on social media.

    There seem to be a lot of people out there with more money than sense, and no taste at all.

    London to a brick they spam their social media followers with Dwumpfenfuhrer Derangement Syndrome inanities.

  54. The Barking Toad

    Koels have better manners than many humans.

    And they don’t glue themselves to the road to try and change the weather – Koels are smarter than hippies – who’d have known!

  55. Harlequin Decline

    I had some nerve conduction tests done this morning. They attach electrodes to various spots and zap you with a current so as to measure the nerves and how well they are conducting impulses.

    It’s like a good number of smallish electric shocks.

    I asked the therapist whether they did the same on children and how they responded.

    She said “You should hear the language! , they can swear like troopers.

    I’ve known 3 year olds to use the F word when we switch on the current’

    The parents who are in the room either look embarrassed, glare at each other or blame the bloke over the fence.”

  56. notafan

    Race tracks are not circular.

    A day at the races is fun, I used to go a lot but now I haven’t been to the races for years.

    On my to do list for 2020

  57. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Human beans are very peculiar animals. Different groups enjoyed very different things:
    1. Watching horses run around in circles.
    2. Wowsing.
    3. Protesting other people watching horses run around in circles.

    So sermonises the biggest wowser on this blog.
    I mean, who else has sat up all night, silently lurking, making notes, just so they can spend the entire next day complaining about the remarks made by two Cats who thought nobody else was around?

    Even the Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards pales in comparison.

  58. Geriatric Mayfly.
    Instead of glitter, next time use carbon black powder. That shit gets in everything and just keeps on smearing itself all over the place. It’s worse than honey in a kitchen.

  59. Nick

    Just watching Bolta’s analysis of last nights’ Q and A violence fest. Remember when the ABC screamed and shat itself when Roger Franklin I think, opinined about the reaction if terrorism in the form of a fridge, injured people at the Ultimo Headquarters?

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Koels are smarter than hippies

    Handsomer and better dressed too.

    Poor birdy. He’s been calling and calling but no ladies have come to see his fine satin suit. Or for yummy gifts of Coles mince. There were several last season, but he also had a couple of other suitors to compete with. (I had five koels that I could hand feed, two females and three males – this guy is the only one to make it back from migration so far.)

    I suspect the dry season has made it hard for the koels to migrate south. The one in the photo has done two migrations. He arrived first week in Oct totally exhausted and with a broken foot. His foot has now healed although one toe is skewed. But there have been no females to serenade.

  61. calli

    Eastern Koels, Rockdoctor. (Love your screen name)

    First day of a complicated, two stage pour today. And I’m here and the New Broom is looking after all of it.

    How good retirement is! 😃

  62. calli

    It was my second last design too. Only one to watch come to fruition. And that will be that.

  63. Gab

    (offensive to one-legged multicultural drug-addicted revolutionary neo-Stalinist lesbians an d trannies etc etc).

    but enough about the Liberal Party.

  64. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    How good retirement is! 😃

    I need a six metre by seven metre slab up here, when you’re ready, Calli.

  65. Top Ender

    Which reminds me!

    Next meeting: The Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards

    Date/time: 7pm this Friday

    Venue: the usual pub

    Agenda:

    1) Meter Maids – Yes or No for Catalaxxy.
    a) Parade
    b) Questions
    c) Parade Again
    d) Photographs

    2. Free food courtesy of the Organisation
    a) serve food
    b) moan about the fact it’s free
    c) dessert
    d) port and cigars
    e) Motion to condemn a, c and d

    3) Post-prandial drinks (courtesy Meeting Chairman)
    a) First round
    b) second round
    c) Motion to condemn
    d) next round
    e) next round
    f) next round
    g) next round
    h) next round
    i) next round
    j) motion lapses for want of a seconder

    4) Toasts
    a) Trafalgar Night
    b) Death to the French
    c) Bottoms Up
    d) Her’s Looking at You
    e) By God you’re good-looking
    f) Replenishment of Flagons
    g) swapping of phone/room numbers

    5) End of meeting
    – open bar

    6) Post-meeting fights
    – all breakages will be billed equally to all members’ accounts, present or not present

    7) Police – welcome and greeting to the premises

    8) Bail facilities

    9) Recriminations

    Note: 4pm Saturday Working Bee/clean-up (or $10 if absent)

  66. calli

    Is it on the side of a hill, one storey up and needs piers?

    I only do the difficult stuff. 🤣

  67. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Date/time: 7pm this Friday

    Not enough notice, Top Ender.
    Give me a two week heads up on the next one, and I’ll be there.
    Sounds like my kind of fun.

  68. calli

    Next meeting: The Catallaxy Committee For High Moral Standards

    Me and my friends will be there.

  69. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Is it on the side of a hill, one storey up and needs piers?

    Yes, no and no.
    But Boofhead will want to supervise.
    Does that count?

  70. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Me and my friends will be there.

    Thanks for the [pic, Calli.
    I often wondered what Nota, None and Cassie looked like.
    I never realised that was a pic of them.
    Where’s the beta male?

  71. bespoke

    Mmm adult diaper and oxigen tanks, no thanks.

  72. feelthebern

    On my to do list for 2020

    Best day at the races is Cox Plate day at MVRC.
    Get a table at one of the dining rooms that come with a grand stand seat.
    The wagon wheel/tractor tyre is so tight you can see all the races start to finish without the trouble of other courses.
    Get the tram there.
    Make sure you have a hire car of some nature booked in after the day wraps up (trust me, it’s a worthy investment).

  73. calli

    Good heavens. You are much mistaken.

    They are Winsome, Felicity and…me. 😊

  74. Chrisl

    Two observations from Melbourne Cup day ( hello Sydney)
    Two family members weren’t interested in placing a bet ,even though I was paying (racing is cancelled)
    The tab at the local pub was very very quiet . Obviously all the action has gone online .

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sydney council set to ditch Australia Day celebrations

    No reciprocal gesture – No indigenous recognition of “Australia Day” in exchange for the ban on climbing Ayers Rock?

  76. feelthebern

    Slipper day at Rosehill used to be ok.
    Now they’ve changed the schedule & the Slipper is the worst race in Australia.

  77. Cassie of Sydney

    “em>”Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3202550, posted on November 5, 2019 at 7:38 pm”

    Go and fiddle with your plastic doll.

  78. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    They are Winsome, Felicity and…me. 😊

    Thanks for that clarification. I must admit I was a tad confused.
    I didn’t think Nota, None and Cassie could be that good looking.

  79. feelthebern

    Obviously all the action has gone online

    Yep.
    It’s the only way.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mmm adult diaper and oxigen tanks, no thanks.

    The latest fashion accoutrements.

    Growth In $9BN US Adult Diaper Market Explodes, Topping Baby Diapers (4 Nov)

    As demographic issues create new and unforeseen challenges, Reuters reported on an easily-overlooked issue: the revolution in the consumer-products space that will need to take place in the coming years. As the population of the elderly explodes, the need for hygiene products like adults diapers will likely see a commensurate surge (and many of the companies that make these products are publicly-traded consumer staples).

    The market is already growing, and last year, it expanded by 9%, to hit $9 billion.

    Sure to annoy the Greens, who already hate disposable baby nappies.

  81. feelthebern

    Ended up being a good day.
    Was on the winner (thank you Tom).
    Got a piece of a trifecta.
    Plus a couple of other wins.

    Already started recycling some funds.
    Trump 2020 @ $2.38 on Ladbrokes.

  82. Top Ender

    From the link above – this is what Terminator: Dark Fate is about:

    For all the flaws in the previous three sequels, those were at least not sold to the public as social justice lectures about how the future is female, about how we should open our borders to anyone who wants to come here, about how the idea of fate is no longer about a mother protecting the future, but a GRRRRL-empowered Hispanic illegal alien Who *Is* The Protector of the Future — because in 2019 America, the toxic theme of all-about-me narcissism is what Hollywood’s selling.

  83. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    who already hate disposable baby nappies.

    Named as such by people who never had to try and actually dispose of one.
    The bloody things are indestructible.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    TE – They brought James Cameron back to do this sucker. He’s gotten worse since Avatar. Quintessentially woke with one of the worst cases of TDS on the planet. You really have to wonder what the mandarins of Hollywood are thinking these days.

  85. Geriatric Mayfly

    Winston
    Instead of glitter, next time use carbon black powder. That shit gets in everything and just keeps on smearing itself all over the place. It’s worse than honey in a kitchen.

    Great idea, but imagine the civic unrest that would ensue with thieves running around in black-face.

  86. John Constantine

    Vegan Zampa and vegan Richardson getting slogged.

    Recovery time for injured meat dodging athletes an issue.

    Politically, the vegan food available to top paid athletes a bit different to prole vegynsys.

  87. Rockdoctor

    Wow, more stupid. NT Airports get upgrades which may be needed at Tenant Creek & Alice Springs (Dunno been a few decades since I have been in both places). Flew through Darwin in Jan last and reckon it is pretty good, so what are they spending the money on??? Apart from a resurface of Alice Springs; Darwin, Tenant Creek & Alice are going to get solar panel farms & a battery…

    https://www.katherinetimes.com.au/story/6475787/big-upgrade-for-nt-airports/

  88. Roger

    ABC TV News Today:

    Anti Melbourne Cup.

    Pro Trump Impeachment.

    “No bias. No agenda.”

  89. #3202550, posted on November 5, 2019 at 7:38 pm”

    Go and fiddle with your plastic doll.

    Outrageous. Men have a sex toy and they’re perverts.

    Women can have 30 disembodied penii in a drawer under a picture of ma & pa, and that’s completely normal and innocent?

    Sure, but there is a double standard.

  90. Oh come on

    Pity about the Mooch. He’s become unhinged. Shouldn’t take things so personally. I think the same thing happened with George Conway.

  91. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Outrageous. Men have a sex toy and they’re perverts.

    Not to mention that when it came to a choice between a silicone lifelike doll, and a homeless cat, I adopted Boofhead the cat instead. All discussed openly here at the time.

    But the Committee For High Moral Standards were never big on actual “facts”.

  92. egg_

    One out of two is something!
    Amazing disclosures on Robin Williams’s ABC Science Show.
    He had an expert on to say nuclear power is safe, and casualties have been very low despite several notable incidents including Chernobyl and Fukushima.
    But: at the same time both maintained their climate change alarmism.
    Oh well, at least the endorsement of nuclear was progress.

    Lovelock’s been championing nukes as a solution to glowball worming.
    Ditto Bill Bates (Thorium) for cheap Third World Energy.

  93. stackja

    Roger – ABC is so predictable. The stories write themselves. People who consume ABC stories must be very gullible.

  94. Overburdened

    Re the adult diaper explosion or something, it is not a new phenomenon for adults to wear protection from leakage.

    A Police Sergeant who worked out of Darlinghurst advised me back in the 1970’s that most of the drag queens and homosexual male prostitutes- as well as a fair number of the female ones- in his patch wore sanitary pads because of faecal leakage.

    This advice has informed me that my decision making regarding my interactions with such people was sound.

    There would be a research grant to do some exploration of the consumers across the age groups.

  95. Arky

    Adult diapers… As the population of the elderly explodes,

    ..
    Gross.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    Disposable nappies.

    I threw a full one into the scrub from the Stuart Highway in 2006 after my young bloke thought between Elliott and Daly Waters was a good time to have a crap.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if, after the meat ants had gotten rid of the shit, that it’s still being used as a handy grand entrance for a trapdoor burrow.

  97. Knuckle Dragger

    NT Airports.

    Darwin just finished a big refurb late last year. Dunno why they need to replicate it in Katherine and Tennant.

    K-Town’s a three hour drive from Darwin so you don’t really need one (Tindal aside – duh), and the primary purpose of the Tennant Creek Airport is to fly in search and rescue teams for missing backpackers, and fly out prisoners to court in Alice Springs. Both of which happen to be free for the passengers.

  98. Harlequin Decline

    For aspiring writers-an article that originally appeared in a 1970’s National Lampoon under the title-

    “Let Me Learn You to Write Good”

  99. egg_

    Go and fiddle with your plastic doll.

    I’ve got the Mona Eltahawy model, but can’t figure out how to shut it up.

  100. Muddy

    This Is Not A Drill : An Extinction Rebellion Handbook.

    Extinction Rebellion are inspiring a whole generation to take action on climate breakdown.
    Now you can become part of the movement – and together, we can make history.

    It’s time. This is our last chance to do anything about the global climate and ecological emergency. Our last chance to save the world as we know it.

    Now or never, we need to be radical. We need to rise up. And we need to rebel.

    Extinction Rebellion is a global activist movement of ordinary people, demanding action from Governments. This is a book of truth and action. It has facts to arm you, stories to empower you, pages to fill in and pages to rip out, alongside instructions on how to rebel – from organising a roadblock to facing arrest.

    By the time you finish this book you will have become an Extinction Rebellion activist. Act now before it’s too late.

  101. johanna

    Went to the doc today with annual readout of comprehensive blood tests (her idea, not mine.)

    Despite an adult lifetime of doing everything the nannies say one shouldn’t, all good. Cholesterol has actually dropped a bit since last year – that would be the fact that I eat practically no fruit or veg coming into play (chuckle) but I do subsist mainly on high protein foods. Not that I give a stuff about cholesterol anyway.

    Kidneys fine, liver doing good, amazing, really. (Takes another sip.) I am having a bevvie and a fag to celebrate my fine ancestors, who bequeathed me good genes, and to pour spit, diarrohea, vitriol, vomit, cat’s piss and Budweiser on the health nannies who constantly conspire to make us miserable.

    To those Cats who have genuine health problems, commiserations. But, do not ever let those bastards tell you that it is all your fault. Mostly, it’s a genetic lottery.

    For those who do not know it already, I am an old chook, 65 to be exact. I have been smoking for over 50 years. I hate exercise, always have. I have consumed a lot more than the AMA’s suggested alcohol intake for decades. Then there were the recreational drugs, now abandoned, mainly because I wouldn’t know where to get them, and am not fussed. But, there are times when a line of speed to get through the housework would be welcome.

    Perhaps I will drop off the twig tomorrow, but it has been worth it.

    Hic.

    Hic haec hoc.

  102. calli

    Lol, Arky.

    I like the one in the middle. The manspreader.

  103. Muddy

    Excrement Retention are inspiring a whole generation to take action on bodily waste breakdown.
    Now you can become part of the bowel movement – and together, we can make cognitive diahorrea.

  104. Muddy

    This Is Not A Laxative : An Excrement Retention Handbook.

  105. Muddy

    Despite the fun of taking the urine out of our opponents, there is something serious to be learned. Do we want to learn though?

  106. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3202592, posted on November 5, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    Disposable nappies.

    I threw a full one into the scrub from the Stuart Highway in 2006 

    I wouldn’t worry about it.
    One of my pet hates is young muvvers … and 93.1% of them do it … who change a nappy, put it in a loosely tied plastic bag and just drop it.
    Anywhere.
    On the bathroom floor, near the back door, on the back deck, anywhere.
    What the fuckity fuck?
    Next thing they will be having a hissy-fit that you were so negligent as to have yoghurt in the fridge which is 5 minutes past it’s use-by date or, worse, having full-cream cows milk (dangerous for their gut doncha know) instead of organic soy milk.
    Ah, hang on, the cat has torn the nappy bag asunder and the kids are having a shit-fight … literally.

  107. Top Ender

    Go johanna – have another one on me!

  108. Muddy

    By the time you finish this book you will have become an Excrement Retention suppository. Clench now before it’s too late.

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Australia’s middle order now have to actually bat, now that both Finch and Flogranganuts are in the sheds.

    This may not be the positive experience they were looking for.

    Spinners that can rip it, and a Paki quick that’s seven foot one. A bit different to the portly Lankan clubbies.

  110. Muddy

    Lesson observed #1 – We are NOT winning. We have redefined ‘winning’ as ‘a random point preceding total loss.’

  111. twostix

    This is a book of truth and action. It has facts to arm you, stories to empower you, pages to fill in and pages to rip out, alongside instructions on how to rebel – from organising a roadblock to facing arrest.

    lol what is this shit? When I was in high school we had the (almost) mythical anarchists handbook.

    Bugmen aren’t even going to allow their tame red guard maoist youth to be useful.

  112. Muddy

    Lesson observed #2 – It’s lonely and cold on the Highest Peak of Moral Righteousness; the view is shite (we’re above the clouds here, so you cannot see a bloody thing), and our enemies have been slowly tunelling beneath us. Sooner or later, they’ll blow the mine, and we’ll be vapor. We could have chosen a more accessible peak with a great view, and the ability to move, but no, we wanted ‘the highest.’ We went with Righteous Feelz.

  113. bespoke

    I think most know that Muddy.

  114. Tintarella di Luna

    Great post C.L. about the non-story in aged-care — it’ll only get worse because politicians, the media and wokademia have been stoking the fires for the last couple of decades telling the young that old white people are terrible everything is their fault, they’re the reason prices for homes are so high and they’re the reason the young can’t get a foot on the property ownership ladder in the suburb they grew up in or the suburb they’d like to live in.

  115. feelthebern

    I was searching for a couple of things on youtube & there seems to be a huge thing now called “reactions”.
    It’s just people filming themselves watching youtube vids.
    The human race is doomed.

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    Adult nappies. And segueing to the reasons why.

    Gulag or DDG or whatever’s yer poison ‘faecal leakage’. Not a peep.

    Now do it for ‘faceal leakage homo’. A veritable library of A grade research, published works and several horrifying first hand accounts of ‘how the vast amount of cock I had jammed in my ring gear broke it and now I can’t go outside without several layers of padding and I stink 24 hours a day’.

    Tampons, as I referred to earlier, are apparently for amateurs or those new to the (rough) trade.

    Having dry-heaved my way through a sample of said library, I can only come to the conclusion that the Qantas black ring the leprechaun makes his staff wear signifies gangrene, rather than inclusion. Except if you’re inclusive to gangrene.

    Blergh. Lucky being a poof is so on trend, or I don’t know what they’d do.

    Sometimes I hate being curious.

  117. johanna

    I will not very reluctantly take up your offer, TE. Just a moment while I get another.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Back.

    Thinking about the horseracing culture wars, the thing is that there is always a grain of truth in the Leftist arguments. What happens, though, is that well-meaning conservatives (self described) rush to appease their opponents, instead of recognising them for what they are – opponents.

    Why are these animal-lovers not campaigning against the treatment of donkeys in Egypt, for example? These poor beasts are living a world away from the conditions of pampered racehorses. Their plight is truly awful. But, not a peep from the glitterati.

    First it was circuses, then greyhounds, now horseracing. They will not stop there.

    Time to apply the snaffle bit.

  118. Tintarella di Luna

    I’ve got the Mona Eltahawy model, but can’t figure out how to shut it up.

    egg_ turn it up the other way maybe?

  119. twostix

    I don’t know anything about horse racing. But decided to have a good go at it today.

    So I spent the whole morning skiving from work and reading all of the words written in the papers about which horses were probably going to win.

    That went well.

  120. Muddy

    bespoke
    #3202614, posted on November 5, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    I think most know that Muddy.

    There is a difference between a lesson observed, and a lesson learned: the former involves knowledge, the latter, knowledge followed by action. I think most of us are still in the ‘lesson observed’ stage, which means bugger all if all you do is continue to froth and dribble.

  121. Confused Old Misfit

    johanna
    #3202599, posted on November 5, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    I have been smoking for over 50 years.

    Quit.

    Now.

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘it’ll only get worse because politicians, the media and wokademia have been stoking the fires for the last couple of decades telling the young that old white people are terrible everything is their fault’

    Absolutely, Tinta. Well said.

    There have always been elements of gormlessness in every generation. That’s why every single generation weeps for the future. The current lot are no different, but what magnifies it is that in this day and age, every single piece of idiocy they get up to is immediately available globally, and encourages the others.

  123. twostix

    they’re the reason prices for homes are so high and they’re the reason the young can’t get a foot on the property ownership ladder

    They are.

  124. johanna

    I assume that Confused is indulging in satire. 🙂

  125. Leigh Lowe

    First it was circuses, then greyhounds, now horseracing. They will not stop there.

    Time to apply the snaffle bit.

    Most avid PETA supporters I know are pet owners who love animals, and provide their pets with a better life than 93.1% of humans on the planet.
    But if they read the PETA charter in full they will eventually understand that pets are on the list, albeit last.
    The hierarchy goes like this …
    Circus animals.
    Racing animals.
    Agricultural animals.
    Zoo animals.
    Wild animals caught for food.
    Household pets.

  126. Tintarella di Luna

    Let’s burn stuff’: Q&A panellists debate violence and shattering the status quo

    Please anything but your bra and panties Mona (I won’t tell you what that name means in the old veneto dialect – suffice to say the name is apt)

  127. bespoke

    Muddy

    True but what action? After years reading many list and manifestos it’s getting boring.

  128. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But if they read the PETA charter in full they will eventually understand that pets are on the list, albeit last.

    At the height of the mulseing argument in Western Australia, the representative of PETA admitted that their first aim was a ban on breeding Merino sheep in Australia, with their ultimate aim a total ban on the use of animals as “food, fibre and fun.” Guide dogs were on the list.

  129. Tintarella di Luna

    Let’s burn stuff’: Q&A panellists debate violence and shattering the status quo

    If only it were original — sounds like stuff said by another overly ample female they all seem to want to burn stuff — maybe it’s a barbecue fetish

  130. Leigh Lowe

    It is an Australian tradition on The Day of the Golden Cup for people who have no interest in ponies for 364 days of the year to place donations in the white bags of the Makers of Books Gods.
    Sacred.
    Don’t fuck with it.

  131. Confused Old Misfit

    ohanna
    #3202628, posted on November 5, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    I assume that Confused is indulging in satire. 🙂

    No. He is not.
    The comment was made in all seriousness by one who, having smoked for over 50 years is, very very fortunate, to not be too badly effected by chemotherapy.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    Typical, for this time of year.

    A cracking storm heads straight for my joint, and at the last second splits in two, one bit going north and the other south.

    Every goddamn time.

  133. johanna

    Yep, the reason that first homebuyers can’t get a 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom property inner city Melbourne or Sydney for an ‘affordable’ price is beacuse of greedy Boomers.

    That dickhead Peter Costello has a lot to answer for. He started this ‘intergenerational’ bullshit, whereby past generations were somehow responsible for future generations. Treasury leaped and fawned for years. John Stone would have been spitting chips at such nonsense.

    People have always looked ahead, hence dynasties. They have not always worked out. In fact, they rarely work out.

    See Yogi Berra.

  134. Knuckle Dragger

    Good point again Tinta. Why is it always the fat chicks that want to burn stuff?

    Is it a question of expending energy? Maybe. You never see them wanting to destroy white Australia with 14 pound sledgehammers. Way too hard.

    My other theory involves the excessive cooking of marshmallows.

    They realise there won’t be eclairs in their post-apocalyptic world? Do they?

  135. C.L.

    Nolte: All-Girl ‘Terminator’ Projected to Lose $100 Million
    Get Woke, Go Broke: ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Bombs At The Box Office

    Just why? The story is as dead as a door nail.
    The way Americans keep coming back to these so-called ‘franchises’ over and over again speaks of a culture with no creative zip left.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If only it were original — sounds like stuff said by another overly ample female they all seem to want to burn stuff — maybe it’s a barbecue fetish

    Yeah, right, Tarneen, and when you’re sitting under a bush, left behind to die because the tribe’s moved on, and you can’t keep up any more, settler Australia wouldn’t seem such a bad place to live, after all.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Just saw a great lesson in commercial reality.
    A bar opened near us a few months back.
    Well, when I say “opened” they blacked out the windows and blocked the front door. Entry could only be gained by entering through a shitty back lane to give it that (cough) “Melbourne secret laneway or prohibition speakeasy feel”.
    Went there once.
    Nice bar.
    Art deco fitout and decor was spot-on, and the drinks were reasonably priced.
    But I forgot about it.
    I now see they have the front door open, footpath tables and signs out.
    I hope the learning experience hasn’t cost them too much.

  138. Tom

    KD, I remember January electrical storms over my beachside flat in Nightcliff (just down the road from the pub) with much fondness. Don’t remember anything more than loud farts in November.

  139. johanna

    Most avid PETA supporters I know are pet owners who love animals, and provide their pets with a better life than 93.1% of humans on the planet.
    But if they read the PETA charter in full they will eventually understand that pets are on the list, albeit last.

    Cripes, Leigh Lowe, how come you know all these PETA nuts? I don’t even know one. What sort of circles are you mxing in? It’s not as if you are meeting via a neighbourhood barbie.

    I think that you are making stuff up.

    Confused Old Misfit, what you are going through is horrible, and I wish you the very best. But, I will not back away because of it.

    My mother died of cancer at 34. One of my best friends was killed in a bike accident at 19. Recently, a friend died of Motor Neurone Disease at 58 – he was a lifelong health freak. I could go on.

    There is nothing fair about this stuff.

    Blockquote fail.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    Harbour storms, Tom.

    They kick arse.

    Lots of snap and crackle about, but no money shot.

  141. twostix

    Yep, the reason that first homebuyers can’t get a 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom property inner city Melbourne or Sydney for an ‘affordable’ price is beacuse of greedy Boomers.

    You keep trying this stupid shit on, it’s embarrasing and unbelievably tin eared. Even for a superannutated public servant who has contributed nothing to the society that her parents imposed themselves upon, it’s really something.

    Meanwhile out in the middle of a paddock – a one hour fifteen commute to the cbd, living right next to the motorway, they’re building high density cheapo dog boxes on 350sqm blocks and selling them as first buyer family homes for just $430,000.

    An amount that requires two average adult incomes to qualify for a mortgage for.

    Why just look at these spoiled brats!

  142. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, sad to say, Surprise Baby, my horse, didn’t win but at least caused a little hilarity when I, one of the oldest present, got it in the sweep. Don’t laugh, I said to my menopausal girlfriends, this could signal another grandchild on the way. Yesterday, which I spent looking after the latest most delightful little six month old chap was a joy, albeit rather tiring. No-one had been able to get him to take a bottle to begin weaning and give his mum a break, but after a little battle, this youngest gave in to Grandma and by the end of the day he was lying on the floor chortling, holding bottley in both hands playing with it and having a good old desultory suck, stopping only to look at me and give me one of his wicked little grins. When you get to the ninth baby in your life it all becomes second nature, and babies do seem to understand that.

    The girls’ Melbourne Cup Lunch, a more or less annual event with a group of about 25 women of a certain age (in years anything from 50 to 70 or more) circulates between a range of hosting houses year by year, so the venues are always new and the fashions competitive as usual; dark lace sleeves are ‘in’ this year, and fascinators not much in evidence. Hats are back, or simple headbands (Rita Panahi on PM Live tonight wore a stunning headband, suited to her Persian good looks, btw). These are as pleasant a group of people as you are likely to meet, mostly well-off, married, a sprinkling of ‘ethnic diversity’ and broadly politically centrist, with a few lefties here and there (mainly in education). The latter politicos supplied the little silver collecting tray to garner donations for the neddies’ welfare services – an obligatory nod to the current zeitgeist of ‘doing something’ for the horses. I stuck in around ten dollars. Don’t mind old has-been horses, saved from the knackers, a worthy enough cause.

    We all sat down to watch the big TV screen for the race and I was very touched when the hostess said, as Advance Australia Fair started, all together now. So we sang along, for all of it, because we are of generations who know the words, and we like to sing, some of us in choirs as well as in the shower. We also like Australia, we like living here, bringing up our families here, and we like each other, having shared something of our diverse lives over the past twelve years or so. Over 20 women’s voices raised in grateful appreciation and praise of all that, and a good thing too.

  143. johanna

    According to Demented Twostix, the reason why today’s homebuyers can’t buy homes when the population was half the size in desirable suburbs in because of Boomer greed.

    What an eejit.

    People who bought modest homes in inner city (and unfashionable) suburbs in the 1960s and 70s and worked and saved are now suddenly dripping, red toothed, predators of the hopes of precious millenials. They have rights, like buying their desired property RIGHT NOW! Poor loves.

    Until they figure out a way to create more quarter acre blocks in a fixed area, they can go pound sand.

  144. johanna

    Lizzie drools and goes on and on and on, as usual.

    The concise sentence is unknown to her. Flowery, florid, pointless, is her thing.

    As I have said before, it’s like trying to swim through cold treacle – worst of all is that the end is just that. There is nothing to remember except the struggle to get out.

  145. Top Ender:

    Venue: the usual pub

    So, which one is that?
    Or will you tell me on Saturday?

  146. twostix

    Boomers would indeed do well to note the aged care thread, and consider the malignant let-them-eat cake attitude of many of their friends like childless, life-long pampered Canberra 1/4 acre block dwelling, public servant Johanna here, towards the very people they expect to do the caring for and about them for the next 20 years. That being the children of the (white) working classes currently being driven into 350sqm blocks 50km+ from the city and forced to pay $1900 a month for the privilege.

    This all so retiring boomers can sell their mundane suburban houses (and the hundred thousand or so ‘investment properties’ they outbid a hundred thousand young families for) to five million clambering Anu Paraamapa’s and Xi Choi’s for $880,000, instead of to their own younger-self Mr and Mrs Smith and Kids for $550,000. All this in its entirety is so that they can buy a brand new land cruiser, caravan and nice house at the coast in a nice white outpost and not work for the last 20(!) years of their lives.

    Why? Because they deserve it all, of course!

    Good luck!

  147. min

    Back in the 60s I had a job introducing Disposable nappies onto the Australian market. The original Dri tots came from Sweden and we put samples in baby bundles , samples of baby products handed out by chemists to pregnant women . Next move was to get them into hospitals which was so successful that Kimberly Clark took over the company and started making them here.
    I visited many mothers in their homes and after what I saw there re washing nappies etc does not surprise me how careless and unthinking people are about getting rid of disposables . I am disappointed that new designs have not ovecome the disposal problems with them . My boys were born before they were available and a nappywash service that was available was expensive and put out revolting thin nappies. Travelling with babies then was a noghtmare.

  148. Zippy:
    Arrogant little prick is really pushing his luck…
    I think the future is coming on with a rush.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    Gotta say I don’t disagree, johanna.

    Look at all the shit inner suburbs in bigger cities, of which I can only speak for Melbourne. Up until the mid 90s or so they were shit for a reason. All next to or in industrial areas, rail/freight hubs, and noisy as all get out. Single fronted terraces crammed into a street and originally built in the 30s or earlier.

    Maidstone. Seddon. Yarraville. Newport. Footscray. Fitzroy. Kensington. Port Melbourne.

    Then it got gentrified. Mum and Dad, who couldn’t afford the outer burbs or a decent car to get to work bought one in 1970 for $16K now find that it’s red hot at $800K as a do-er-upperer due to the perennially inflated market. I wish to God I was the beneficiary of one of these, but I’m not.

    After careful saving over decades Mum and Dad then decide to renovate it a bit, just parts of the interior mind. Now it’s worth well into seven figures, and they decide to sell it (again benefiting from the market) and get a little joint tailored to their needs well away from the smog and shit and truck dust they endured for so long.

    How that circumstance is Mum and Dad’s fault, I’m not sure. What are they gonna do – sell their Seddon joint that’s worth $970K for $200K because it’s not fair?

  150. mh

    Candice Warner (VRC Derby ambassador)

    1st 23. Vow And Declare
    2nd 20. Il Paradiso
    3rd 6. Hunting Horn
    Why it will win: My husband [cricketer David Warner] thinks he’s a bit of an expert and generally does well on Melbourne Cup day. He likes Vow And Declare this year.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Right, mh. It’s all clear now.

    That cheating ranga houso’s done it again. Declare the result void and start again next week.

    Tomorrow’s headline: Vow and Declare Found to be Sea Biscuit.

  152. John Constantine

    Non-vegan Smith steps up a gear for ten minutes and separates the men from the boys.

    Eat a chop, the rest of you fading flogs.

    [It doesn’t count if your missus never finds out.]

  153. Knuckle Dragger

    Zampa’s a vegan?

    Geez. I had hopes for that lad, too. Primarily due to the mullet.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    The teev’s telling me six punters were pinched and booted for excessive tomfoolery at the Cup.

    Most impressive. Compares extremely well with any crowd of that size (just over 80,000) at the G.

  155. Top Ender

    No Winston, you don’t want to come – trust me.

    The violence, drinking, abuse, drinking, threats, and drinking were shocking last time.

    Was while entree was on.

    Curtains are best drawn over the remainder of the night.

    It’s just as well Cat members are normally separated by thousands of kilometres.

  156. John Constantine

    https://www.peta.org.au/news/aussie-cricketers-vegan/

    The big push for vegynsys won’t be to duplicate the high cost, whole food of the wealthy outliers for the proles.

    The proles will get extruded, medicated, addictive industrial waste. Posing as food and endorsed by influencers.

    Comrades.

  157. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I love this term “outer suburbs”.

    When my paternal grandfather built (literally) their first home in Ellesmere Street, Mt Hawthorn, it pretty much marked the northern boundary of civilisation in metropolitan Perth.

    When my maternal grandparents moved into public housing for ex servicemen in Hector Street, Tuart Hill after the war, it had become the northern boundary of settlement.

    When my parents built their first weatherboard home via the State Housing Commission, in Nollamara, it marked the very northern end of Perth. When they upgraded to double brick in Balcatta, we were once again back in the bush.

    When my high school mates all started getting married in the Seventies, Perth extended north past Mullaloo, only accessible via a goat track ten years previously.

    Just why do the millenials think it should be any different for them, or that it only started with the baby boomers who preceded them?

  158. MatrixTransform

    When I moved to Preston in the 89 the joint had an outside dunny, a briquette heater IN the bathroom and the dog used to get under the house and would eyeball me inside through the gaps in floorboards. The stove was a cast iron Kookaburra and there was no thing such as heating and cooling.. Light a fire or put on a jumper.

    friends said I was mental for moving there.
    put an extension on and generally fixed stuff. never ever paid down that mortgage … just added to it.

    bought in 89 for 93k sold in 06 for 720k … be worth about 1.3M now I suppose

    Every skirt and arch in that place I cut myself.
    I poured the concrete for the stumps
    I hung the plaster. stopped the plaster and painted every room
    I dug the sewer by hand
    I laid the red brick paving
    I rebuilt the front bent-wire fence
    I planted the trees and screwed the colourbond on that roof
    I remember needing 20% deposit
    I also remember paying 17.45% interest for a while

    but yeah. never took a risk. never worked my arse off.

    fucking boomers … don’t deserve a thing. Right?

    privileged wankers

    Imagine if I had the joint now … be sitting pretty

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When my high school mates all started getting married in the Seventies, Perth extended north past Mullaloo, only accessible via a goat track ten years previously.

    I brought in Bayswater, in the late 1970’s for half the price I would have paid in Sydney. The real estate agent was trying to persuade me to buy in Ballajura….

  160. Old Lefty

    Thanks for the medical research about rear continence, KD. A friend in one of the health professions who once worked in Darlinghurst told me the same thing some time ago, but asked me not to put her name to it lest she be sacked.

    And for Tintarella, is it Mona as in Mona Lott?

  161. Top Ender

    I helped renovate a house in Tassie, Knuckles. Took me and the squeeze four years.

    Old bushie south of Hobart.

    Learnt a lot, including never to do it again. Every bloody weekend 12 hour days, and weekday evenings too.

    But it gives you a financial start.

  162. C.L.

    Well, sad to say, Surprise Baby, my horse, didn’t win but at least caused a little hilarity when I, one of the oldest present, got it in the sweep.

    I also backed the babe and picked Vow and Declare as second. Crap.
    Tom … what a bastard.

  163. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But it gives you a financial start.

    Making the last payment on the mortgage gave me a certain degree of independence…

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As I have said before, it’s like trying to swim through cold treacle

    Hope you drown in it, darling.
    Why not just give up and scroll?

    Surely you were too busy reflecting on having a wonderful time with all of your friends to be bothered reading about my happy day? Or indeed, for being so sour about it.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    Renovation is one of the many things I am shithouse at. No patience, and no finesse. Everything overengineered to buggery.

    I built a brick letterbox once at my joint in Romsey, in the Macedon Ranges NW of Yarrograd.

    Rectangular. Five feet high. Slabbed and rendered a dark chocolate, so much so that it looks like a giant lamington sans coconut. Immediately became home to thousands of a previously undiscovered genus of megaspiders.

    But centuries after the ants develop plasma weapons and overthrow the Liu Dynasty in this country, that bastard letterbox will still be there.

  166. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    So help me, it’s like a horror movie version of “Never Ending Story . . .”

  167. jupes

    Bolta was in fine form tonight. Really angry about the ABC and the A-G’s department.

    Let’s hope he stays that way.

  168. classical_hero

    When my parents bought their house, it was the fringe of the city and the freeway didn’t even go that far north. Now it’s almost considering inner city. Well it’s closer to the city than the north.

  169. classical_hero

    I wonder who are the two closest cats? Surely it’s Custard and I, since he’s the next suburb over from me.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    True Matrix and TE.
    We bought a house from Griks in a then unfashionable Melbourne western suburb in the early 80’s.
    Nothing had been done to the place since 1930 apart from the “improvements” done by the Griks over the years (say no more).
    We did all we could.
    Knocked out walls, patched plaster, crawled around to re-stump and put in ducted heating, painted, whatever.
    Oh, and hung onto the place with capped interest rates of 11.5% to avoid PJ Keating’s 18% interest rates we needed to have.
    Yeah.
    Did it easy.

  171. Steve trickler

    Jack Elam. He was good at his role.

    Good laugh from the 80’s.



  172. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    But centuries after the ants develop plasma weapons and overthrow the Liu Dynasty in this country, that bastard letterbox will still be there.

    You’d get on well with one of my BiL’s Knuckles.
    He once built a kennel for his dog.
    Three stories high, with 8″ X 2″ main frame and cross-beams plus 4″ X 2″ reinforcing at 12″ spacing.
    The dog was a lame, 17 year old geriatric Jack Russel that had trouble lifting a leg to pee.

  173. classical_hero

    Is Sinc hungover from the races that he forgot to create a new thread?

  174. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Hung over?
    What makes you think he’s stopped drinking?

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    I slummed it with my dog kennel Peter.

    Used hoop iron as reo.

  176. Oh come on

    Lizzie drools and goes on and on and on, as usual.

    Jeez. Self awareness, please! You just wrote a couple of lengthy posts pertaining to your health check-up, Jo. I’m not saying don’t do that – what I am saying is you’re not so different, you and her (Lizzie). Stylistically different, yes.

  177. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I’m very much the other way, Knuckles – a bit of a minimalist.
    I save a lot of money but constantly worry about my creations blowing away in a light breeze.

  178. jupes

    Far out!

    The cops moved Avi on for … wait for it … “Disrupting the protesters”.

    Words fail.

  179. EvilElvis

    I remember needing 20% deposit
    I also remember paying 17.45% interest for a while

    I’m intrigued by the boomer bashing/boomer defense thingo. My dad’s a boomer, I’m obviously not. He hates them but then again he’s like me and gets along with most people but honestly can’t stand most people. Anywho, the above figures get trotted out frequently. Would it have been offset somewhat by enjoying the greatest cash economy and growth environment in history? Or are boomers bashed because they’ve milked that period yet denied through government and bureacracy, that they’ve voted for, the ability for any further generations to take advantage due to current oppressive tax, bureacratic and government meddling at a level we’ve never seen?

  180. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    32m
    A wonderful family and friends from Utah got caught between two vicious drug cartels, who were shooting at each other, with the result being many great American people killed, including young children, and some missing. If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively. The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!

  181. JC

    Applies in oz too

    These Machines Can Put You in Jail. Don’t Trust Them.
    Alcohol breath tests, a linchpin of the criminal justice system, are often unreliable, a Times investigation found.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/03/business/drunk-driving-breathalyzer.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

  182. DrBeauGan

    Nearly 10:00 pm in Perth and just got back from Terminator Dark Fat. Well that’s what it said on the ticket they gave me after scanning my email.

    I enjoyed it. Same old, same old, but if you like mindless violence it’s great. They had a tall lesbian with no tits as an augmented human bean trying to kill a robot who turned into black goo and then reformed to human shape, and Arnie was back as a good terminator who had become almost human. And had aged in the process.

    I suppose there was wokeness, but I didn’t really care much about it. It wasn’t exactly realistic and plausible. Just childish fun. It sure wouldn’t convert anyone to thinking women are great at fighting men and beating the shit out of them. It’s just another Hollywood epic, and.fundamentally silly. The message that border security are bastsrds who make life hard for lovely latinas was a bit obscured by the robot killing them wholesale.

    At selling the feminist message it was so inept nobody would have got it anyway. I just liked it for the mindless violence.

    Good fun. And message free, even if Hollywood had intended one.

  183. DrBeauGan

    The bottle of prosecco served during the movie definitely helped. Obviously one needs to leave your brain at the checkin and remember to pick it up on leaving. Did that. And Uber is essential.

  184. JC

    Went out last night with a bunch of old traders to Areff’s least favorite steak house -Smith&Wollensky. I can’t understand the fun of getting drunk as the morning after you feel like shit. Never do it again until next time. I haven’t been drunk like this for well over a decade it think.

    I woke up twice dying of thirst.

    People here seem t9 get drunk every night. I do not know how they do it because the morning after effect is fucking horrible. I feel pity for them.

  185. DrBeauGan

    JC, if you drink good stuff, you don’t get a hangover. At least, I don’t.

  186. JC

    They had a tall lesbian with no tits as an augmented human bean trying to kill a robot who turned into black goo and then reformed to human shape

    They had an entire panel of those last night on their ABC’s Q&A. You should have watched that program and saved the cashola spent on the movie ticket.

  187. DrBeauGan

    I usually wake up after four hours feeling all perky. I’ll let you know if the prosecco was ok in about five hours from now. I have to finish a cigar before going to bed

  188. JC

    Yes perhaps Doc. I started off with a couple of gin laced cocktails. Gin always gave me a yuge high and then a terrible low. We then went onto wine at the table… but I didn’t order it so don’t know the quality.

  189. DrBeauGan

    They had an entire panel of those last night on their ABC’s Q&A. You should have watched that program and saved the cashola spent on the movie ticket.

    I don’t have a television set, JC, and if I did I wouldn’t watch the ABC. I wouldn’t mind watching them all kill each other, but I bet they don’t.

  190. JC

    All being equal and no major changes, I’m going out on the limb and say Trumpster is going to win 2020 , irrespective of polls and bullshit.

    Large Bank stocks are at year highs. That’s the only predictor worth watching I reckon.

  191. DrBeauGan

    I tried gin once and didn’t like it. I have a lot of faith in my taste buds. They look after me, and I trust them to keep on doing so. I don’t trust the dieticians a micron. Useless buggers who bullshit endlessly.

  192. DrBeauGan

    I agree about Trump. The smart money says an easy win. Well, look who he’s up against. Nobody with an ounce of brain will vote democrat.

  193. DrBeauGan

    One would have to be a dedicated whacko to vote democrat. Unless Trump gets assassinated, or something close, he’s a shoo in next year.

  194. Tom

    Morten Morland (London Times) on Nigel Farage’s decision not to stand as a candidate for the Brexit Party.

  195. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks Tom.

  196. Top Ender

    Anyone know the size of the federal government public service departments?

    Working on a vicious article that needs the info.

    Of course they make it hard to find.

    Des Deskperson – you might know….

  197. bespoke

    JC
    #3202705, posted on November 6, 2019 at 1:41 am
    People here seem t9 get drunk every night. I do not know how they do it because the morning after effect is fucking horrible. I feel pity for them.

    Mostly talk I recon. The odd drink is OK to take the edge off but to base a life style around it like it’s some badge of honer not so much. Plus I can’t afford the brain cells.

  198. bespoke

    What a LOSER! Tom Arnold used his young son’s name on back-up Twitter account to troll while he’s ‘locked’

    Sure is but expected. But if a conservative/libertarian used a sock or thought it OK to circumvent property rights then they are not just losers but fakes.

  199. bespoke

    2dogs
    #3202741, posted on November 6, 2019 at 5:23 am
    Had evidence and quashed it.

    # 5055+ reason the MSM should not be given special rights.

  200. JC

    This is partially what it’s all about.

    Bloomberg) — Forty years ago, scientists from 50 nations converged on Geneva to discuss what was then called the “CO2-climate problem.” At the time, with reliance on fossil fuels having helped trigger the 1979 oil crisis, they predicted global warming would eventually become a major environmental challenge.

    The scientists got to work, building a strategy on how to attack the problem and laying the groundwork for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the world’s preeminent body of climate scientists. Their goal was to get ahead of the problem before it was too late. But after a fast start, the fossil fuel industry, politics and the prioritization of economic growth over planetary health slowed them down.

    Now, four decades later, a larger group of scientists is sounding another, much more urgent alarm. More than 11,000 experts from around the world are calling for a critical addition to the main strategy of dumping fossil fuels for renewable energy: there needs to be far fewer humans on the planet.

    “We declare, with more than 11,000 scientist signatories from around the world, clearly and unequivocally that planet Earth is facing a climate emergency,” the scientists wrote in a stark warning published Tuesday in the journal BioScience.

    While warnings about the consequences of unchecked climate change have become so commonplace as to inure the average news consumer, this latest communique is exceptionally significant given the data that accompanies it.

    When absorbed in sequence, the charts lay out a devastating trend for planetary health. From meat consumption, greenhouse gas emissions and ice loss to sea-level rise and extreme weather events, they lay out a grim portrait of 40 years of squandered opportunities.

    The scientists make specific calls for policymakers to quickly implement systemic change to energy, food, and economic policies. But they go one step further, into the politically fraught territory of population control. It “must be stabilized—and, ideally, gradually reduced—within a framework that ensures social integrity,” they write.

    The problem is enormous, yet the signatories still manage to strike an upbeat tone. For all the lost chances, progress is being made, they contend.

    “We are encouraged by a recent surge of concern,” the letter states. “Governmental bodies are making climate emergency declarations. Schoolchildren are striking. Ecocide lawsuits are proceeding in the courts. Grassroots citizen movements are demanding change, and many countries, states and provinces, cities, and businesses are responding.”

    The report, however, comes one day after U.S. President Donald Trump began the formal procedure of withdrawing America from the Paris climate accord.

    I’m expecting all these 11,000 “scientists” to begin calling the Hotline for “advice”.

  201. Bruce of Newcastle

    Now, four decades later, a larger group of scientists is sounding another, much more urgent alarm.

    LOL.

    ‘Climate crisis’ linked to wealth (Oz today, paywalled)
    By GRAHAM LLOYD

    Global surface temperatures are not sufficient to measure climate change, says a new declaration by ­scientists.

    In other words global temperatures are doing squat, so they have to come up with something else to justify their princely salaries.

    My suggestion to the heroic 11,000 is to urgently find something else to do, move to a different country and change your name, so when the people come with pitchforks you can say you always were an avo farmer.

  202. John Constantine

    https://www.crazyegg.com/blog/content-marketing-vs-native-advertising/

    When their billion dollar a year abc boast they have ‘obtained’ a story, or gush that a meme has gone viral on twitter, they are really saying that they have handed over the taxpayer funded billion dollar bully pulpit to Content Marketers.

    Their abc do only push content that progresses the revolution, but can switch revolutionary zeal from product to product overnight.

    Example being the frenzied marketing of content provided of kangaroo knitting/ australias first cavoodle dog/australia’s first bogan tim/ Women for Gillard/ men in blue ties bad.
    Abc audience went to bed one night with this provided content saturating them, woke up the next morning with kevin rudd in a blue tie providing the content that we must all pull together to support the left against The Abbottbeast.

    ‘Ketocrotch’ is a paid content meme going viral on Twitter, along with ‘ meatsweats’ to progress the downfall of meat eating and acceptance of industrial waste posing as food and vegynsys.

  203. RobK

    Forty years ago, scientists from 50 nations converged on Geneva to discuss what was then called the “CO2-climate problem.
    Was this not the earth summit organised by Maurice Strange. The CO2 conjecture had been simmering for a century as had eugenics. Political expediency to a technocratic, centrally controlled world government.

  204. notafan

    Isn’t it true that massive immigration into Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane is pushing house prices up excessively?

    Young families can’t buy in when chicoms have so much money.

    Three out of four houses in my street that had gone on the market has gone to Chinese buyers in the last few years.

    One is now a defacto boarding house, one demolished for townhouses, and the other is a rental, and no doubt will be townhoused too.

  205. John Constantine

    https://www.theland.com.au/story/6475208/glyphosate-concerns-drift-closer-to-home/?src=rss

    Now, the announcement by Thailand in the last fortnight that it is not only banning the import and use of glyphosate domestically but also eliminating its residue tolerance on imported feed and food products, brings glyphosate concerns even closer to Australia.

    This is because it is the first Australian grain export market of note where a domestic-use ban is explicitly accompanied by a change to import tolerances for chemical residues.

    Effective from December 1, this move has real consequences for what Australia can export to Thailand in the future. Grain that has been pre-harvest desiccated with glyphosate will not be eligible for Thai import.

    Dessication with roundup is a big thing for hay and grain.

    A percentage of farmers and grain agents will still do this and try to blend and hide and sell roundup dessicated produce as roundup free if there is even ten bucks a tonne profit in it.

    A total ban on roundup dessication is the only way to prevent criminals from destroying overseas markets.

    I haven’t used roundup dessication on the vetch hay this year, but recent rain and regrowth makes me regret this.

    The danger is that without roundup cleaning the paddock up, green regrowth from the rain will get picked up in the haybale, overheat and spontaneously combust, burning the haystack.

  206. calli

    Supply and demand, taxes and red tape and imposts on developers, changing buyer expectations will all force up housing prices.

    So easy to blame generations when the whole lot can be traced back to government policy with a good dash of greedy human nature as a garnish.

  207. John Constantine

    https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/these-10-rivers-carry-95-of-all-plastic-into-the-ocean

    Not all of these rivers are equally guilty. As the graph below shows, the Yangtze is the main culprit, ejecting around 1.5 million tonnes of plastic into the East China Sea. That’s more than the other nine rivers combined.

    Fifty percent of the plastic in the ocean comes from one chicom river.

    Their abc obtains and runs endless content on banning shopping bags and cups and straws in australia, their abc promoted sending australian plastic rubbish to the chicoms, but never once mentions the truth.

    One river, one Tyrant, fifty percent of the rubbish.

    Comrades.

  208. egg_

    They had a tall lesbian with no tits as an augmented human bean trying to kill a robot who turned into black goo and then reformed to human shape

    They had an entire panel of those last night on their ABC’s Q&A. You should have watched that program and saved the cashola spent on the movie ticket.

    Looked like a panel of Sideshow Bob imitators.
    Next up: Sideshow Bob vs Arnie?

  209. 132andBush

    The danger is that without roundup cleaning the paddock up, green regrowth from the rain will get picked up in the haybale, overheat and spontaneously combust, burning the haystack.

    Happened to friends last week, shed gone as well.

    Personally speaking, glyph should not be used for grain crop desiccation.

    Agros pushing the trendy direct heading of canola can take the blame for some of the pushback.
    Direct head instead of windrow trades one set of risks for another.
    I know a bloke who uses 3lt/ha of glyph for desiccation, it’s asking for issues.
    Weed control only thanks, spray bars under a windrower are a good option.

  210. egg_

    Now, four decades later, a larger group of scientists is sounding another, much more urgent alarm. More than 11,000 experts from around the world are calling for a critical addition to the main strategy of dumping fossil fuels for renewable energy: there needs to be far fewer humans on the planet.

    There’s 11,000 they can cull.
    /NADT

  211. notafan

    But it is true Calli that (we, I’m a tail end boomer) boomers have disproportately benefitted from those policies, the policies we created?

    All the most ardent ‘greenies’ around here are boomers.

    The ones that own a nice place in one of the leafies, travel overseas whenever it suits , demand multi million bike tracks for their leisure activities, are happy to see electricity prices go though the roof and bad luck if road congestion means an extra hour a day commute for the hois.
    The ones living on either tax free or close to it incomes while milking every senior discount around?

  212. egg_

    The CO2 conjecture had been simmering for a century as had eugenics. Political expediency to a technocratic, centrally controlled world government.

    When the solutions are extreme – you know you’re dealing with extremists.

  213. calli

    I didn’t create those policies. But I am a beneficiary.

    I’m just so tired of the broad brush hatred. Demonising people has a corrosive effect – it justifies evil treatment. The linking to cruelty to the elderly has been noted.

  214. calli

    Disclosure: I have a Seniors Card.

    I get a cheap haircut on Tuesdays. 😁

  215. egg_

    Does blaming Boomers for ones woes come from losers living in Mum’s garage?

  216. notafan

    I don’t see hatin’ rather blaming.

    It isn’t reasonable to talk about government policy as if it is something that happens independently of people, even though sometimes it seems that way.

    I’m not talking old people on the pension in million dollar houses.

    Or lazy young people.

    They aren’t.

    Melbourne is adding close to 200,000 people per annum.

    Everyone sees the results.

    Why doesn’t it stop?

  217. calli

    Yikes! Now Australia is going to fall apart!

    Is there anything the weather can’t do?

    Never fear, Ross. Greta says we’ll all be fried in 12 years.

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