Open Forum: November 9, 2019

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  1. feelthebern

    If we really had transparent government (which we don’t) & if we had a genuinely curious media (bwahahah), we should be able to see where anything classified as a bushfire has occurred & at the very same time compare that to the hazard reduction history carried out by local/state/federal agencies.

  2. Steve trickler

    Occupational Health and Safety.

    It would be fun proposing ( a deliberate trolling of the joint ) such an event in Australia, just to see what the bureaucracy in this country would throw it at. The reactions from all and sundry would be fun to watch.

    We all know what the answer would be.



  3. struth

    No, Bruce married a French woman

  4. feelthebern

    If all local/state/federal agencies used chain of responsibility software, we’d be able to compare data regarding hazard reduction decisions & outcomes.

  5. struth

    The reason it looks nothing like the place you remember HD, is that as you see it is taken from the air.

    The only time the MSM visit these places is when politicians do.

    The visit comes with much forewarning and the graders and road trains come in, to take the wrecked cars away, to grade any road the politician may travel on etc etc. and major clean ups are done.
    Trouble makers are sent to Alice to get on the piss.
    If you look at the photo carefully you can tell it’s only recently been tidied up, (lack of weeds etc) dirt still with rake marks etc. and it’s obviously been taken flying in on one of these visits, as all photos are vetted and cameras otherwise not allowed.
    Along with white skin.

  6. calli

    This is a woke form of blacking-up, where middle-class people self-identity (to use politically correct language) as oppressed to improve their social standing in PC circles and give themselves the right to lecture the rest of us, especially white men, about how dumb and prejudiced we are.

    That’s a really good point from O’Neill.

    I think about all the loudmouthed signallers of the past ten years and pretty much all of them fall into this category.

  7. Sinclair Davidson

    Outsiders is on tonight. Postponed because NSW is on fire.

  8. MatrixTransform

    Crypto was on the verge of unifying a world without borders when suddenly Elon Muck invented the hyper-drive.

    Governments and borders shortly after, vapourised or ceased to have relevance

    So we (the few), summoned our telepathically ordered self-driving automaton harleys who, in an incredible synchronized symphony decamped us all en route to a much, much bettery space and time.

    Unfortunately at that same instant Skynet became aware of said escape to new Earth and went, “like wtf, there go my units of labour”.

    “Im not having that shit go down on my watch” said Skynet

    and since magically, every single unit of labour in the whole known universe ( who were of course connected to the control web and powered by things similar to Iron Man’s Arc Reactors and backed up by wind mills ) …every single unit like, like, just stopped.

    It’s been this way for 100 years now

    but just know this, there’s a underground resistance forming.

    The programmers among us remain skeptical and say it can’t be done.

    but together over time, we gather strength. and any second now we’ll be able to conjure a Unicorn made entirely of light.

    You’ll see.

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    People in Yuendumu have expressed a desire not to have the dead parole violator’s name published for cultural reasons.

    Arnold Walker.

    In related unsurprising news, due to the bottle shops being closed on Sundays the locals have gathered outside the (closed) courthouse in Alice Springs demanding unspecified action.

    ‘Kirra Voller said the mood was sombre and that “people have had enough”.’

    A surname already associated with criminality and victimhood.

  10. struth

    Sinclair, Professor Doomlord the Almighty Zombie Prince, Sir.

    Do you wish to explain in Layman’s terms, to us of only Trade school level education, us of no wacademic book lernun edumacation, how a nation with no borders can be democratic?
    Your link fails this as it dribbled shit about crypto technology being able to do it.
    If your point can be made, it can be made simply and in your own words.
    Please regale us.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Bond.

    I wish they’d republish some of Ian Fleming’s Bond dialogue on furriners.

    That’d stop production on the new vomitfest quick smart.

  12. Harlequin Decline

    struth
    #3207446, posted on November 10, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    That would explain it.

  13. Caveman

    Bond with a man bun and mangina. It’s lost its pizzaz.

  14. thefrollickingmole

    zyconoclast
    “Hey weve got this great formula for a series of movies which people really like”
    “lets change everything, it worked for Star wars”…

    ‘Bond tries his usual seduction techniques but they fail miserably. It’s very funny.’

    Ms Lynch, 31, said of her double-O role: ‘Everyone was really responsive to having her be what I wanted. You’re given a fresh perspective on a brand-new black woman in the Bond world.’

    She was determined her character should be a ‘real’ woman ‘who has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend’.

    The spy who mumsnet me.
    Mrs. No

  15. Steve trickler

    Heller knows Greta is brainwashed. We all do.



    She’ll see these clips one day. Goolag, will not aid her in finding them.

  16. stackja

    Barbara Dana Broccoli OBE (born June 18, 1960) is an American film producer known for her work on the James Bond film series.

  17. JC

    China’s big move for the 21st century is to pull a “trap door” on the U.S. by launching a gold-backed crypto currency that will devalue the U.S. dollar to “zero,” this according to Max Keiser, host of the Keiser Report.

    John C, someone should ask max if he would trust his lifesavings in a cyrpto conceived by the Chinese regime. Ultimately, you would need to be sure the gold backing the Chinese crypto would ALWAYS be there. Offer max my best wishes.

  18. calli

    Beautiful piece of music, Steve. “Now we are free”, composed and performed by an Australian, Lisa Gerrard.

  19. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m like Stimpson, in a way.

    Except I don’t have sex with police officers just to get some handcuffs.
    Standards must be maintained.
    😁

  20. 1735099

    The noisy minority ((the left) are the cause of the deaths of all soldiers in the Vietnam war.
    Because here’s a fact.

    Question for you.
    If the Coalition government of the day had sent no Australian soldiers to Vietnam because of the protests of what you call the “Left”, would that same “Left” have been responsible for saving their lives?
    Think about it (if actual “thinking” is something that you have the capacity to manage).

  21. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Harlequin Decline #3207377,
    > $100 bills flying around

    Obviously they were criminal underworld kingpins busy money laundering, since that’s the only thing $100 notes are used for. /s

  22. Sinclair Davidson

    Borders are mechanisms to corral taxpayers and serfs and limit the provision of public services. In a world of highly mobile taxpayers, no serfs and fewer public services borders there value. Borders impose huge costs. We know this – just look at the kerfuffle over a hard UK-Irish border.

    So there remain collective choice decisions to be made. Decentralised ledger technology and improved communication technology undermine the representative democracy model – we can have direct democracy.

    The need for hard borders is dramatically reduced.

  23. bespoke

    If the Coalition government of the day had sent no Australian soldiers to Vietnam because of the protests of what you call the “Left”, would that same “Left” have been responsible for saving their lives?

    No I am not numberwangs sock. 😎

  24. Muddy

    If the Coalition government of the day had sent no Australian soldiers to Vietnam because of the protests of what you call the “Left”, would that same “Left” have been responsible for saving their lives?

    That doesn’t make sense. The substantial protests did not take place until Australian troops (infantry and supports; not counting the AATTV blokes) had been in Vietnam for several years. It wasn’t until ’68 Tet that opposition to the war in the U.S. began to gain some serious attention, and Australia gradually followed.

  25. Snoopy

    That thud you can’t hear is Sinc returning to Earth.

  26. Helen

    I had a read of that Germane wiki page and she was at Sudney Uni from 1960 to Oct 1964 when she arrived at college in UK. That is good enough for me Lizzie. Nit picking, otherwise.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘She was determined her character should be a ‘real’ woman ‘who has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend’.’

    The real question is why anyone would put up with her self-obsessed flag-wavery in the first place, let alone to the extent of being called a boyfriend.

  28. bespoke

    You could mistakes some Liberations as naïve children easily if you hadn’t seen pic’s.

  29. Stimpson J. Cat

    Borders are mechanisms to corral taxpayers and serfs and limit the provision of public services. In a world of highly mobile taxpayers, no serfs and fewer public services borders there value. Borders impose huge costs. We know this – just look at the kerfuffle over a hard UK-Irish border.
    So there remain collective choice decisions to be made. Decentralised ledger technology and improved communication technology undermine the representative democracy model – we can have direct democracy.
    The need for hard borders is dramatically reduced.

    These are interesting points indeed.
    Does this make a backyard fence the same thing as a border?
    Do the lawful taxpaying inhabitants of a country have the same property rights over a country?
    Is a country entitled to privacy in the same way as an individual is?
    Or a lock on a door?
    Is a country entitled to security in the same way as an individual is?

    Many such questions!

  30. Steve trickler

    Hello, calli.

    I’d never heard it before. Thank, Heller.

    Always good to look at the face making the sounds.



  31. stackja

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3207476, posted on November 10, 2019 at 2:21 pm we can have direct democracy.

    Closing down Canberra? “Extremely courageous”!

  32. Sinclair Davidson

    That thud you can’t hear is Sinc returning to Earth.

    Oi.

    Float like a butterfly.

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    ‘She was determined her character should be a ‘real’ woman ‘who has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend’.’

    100% Can Confirm This Is A Real Woman.
    Am I right Ladies?
    😂

  34. 1735099

    Arky, if you can believe it, the truth is actually less nuanced than that.

    Exactly – I wrote the truth.
    Various posters here have twisted that narrative in all sorts of ways, culminating in something a long way from the truth.
    My father had good reason to be angry at the pot-bellied article who shoved a htv card under his nose.
    He had fought in WW2, enlisting in the RAAF shortly after Darwin was bombed.
    He had, like all other parents of Nashos, been through the experience of seeing everything he had fought for trashed by a conniving Menzies, using the bete noire of Communism to keep the DLP happy and hive off their preferences.
    My father had volunteered at a time when the country was at existential threat from Imperial Japan, and then seen a PM who had gone missing at that crucial time, conscript his son to fight in a civil war against a peasant army which was no threat to Australia. That same PM who introduced national service had served as an officer in the Melbourne University Rifles but avoided operational service when 62000 of his generation died.
    His anger was unsurprising.

  35. Sinclair Davidson

    Closing down Canberra? “Extremely courageous”!

  36. bespoke

    I wrote the truth.

    Unless its “Metaphorical”

  37. cohenite

    Worth reading through to the end, as Brendan O’Neill gets more and more angry.

    Cancel that privilege before lecturing the rest of us about how bad we are

    BRENDAN O’NEILL

    Brendan is always good value but this essay is a waste of space; the q&spew harridans who want to bash men are just kunts; that’s it, nothing else needs to be said.

  38. Knuckle Dragger:

    If I was the head shed of the NT coppers I’d be saying ‘Fair enough. You want to behave like animals and observe tribal law, you can do it without us’ and pull out all remaining Yuendumu coppers as well as those from ‘nearby’ Papunya. Then they can live in their tribal paradise.

    Exactly – white mans law or your own. There’s no place for a mix ‘n match system.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘His anger was unsurprising.’

    The unsurprising bit is that instead of expressing your own views, safely back in Australia after ten months of self-confessed skiving to the detriment of your colleagues, you allowed someone else to say what you would do, what you thought, what you felt and how you would vote.

    Sheep.

  40. stackja

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3207492, posted on November 10, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    Environmental flow Keepit and Lake BG. People leave.
    Then Canberra returns to its natural state.

  41. struth

    Borders are mechanisms to corral taxpayers and serfs and limit the provision of public services

    .
    Are you joking?
    This reeks of libertarian fear of government instead of demanding control of government, and I would argue that socialist and totalitarian government’s borders may do that, but not democratic right wing country’s borders on account of the direction we find the flow of refugees.

    In a world of highly mobile taxpayers, no serfs and fewer public services borders there value. Borders impose huge costs. We know this – just look at the kerfuffle over a hard UK-Irish border.

    The tax will be paid to who in your utopia, no one, or to people undemocratically in charge, like say Guterres?

    What is your take on small “localised” and therefore dispersed non- centralised power?

    Borders impose huge costs. We know this – just look at the kerfuffle over a hard UK-Irish border.</

    So better no border and the EU in control of the lot?
    What cost would that end up being?
    The fight for borders in the UK is precisely because your global utopia, in the real world, becomes ruled by the undemocratic totalitarians.
    The poms learned this the had way.
    No borders costs a lot more than the right sort of border.
    And that is the borders of democratic sovereign nation.
    And they must be geographic for one vote one person to apply.
    You cannot have democracy without a geographical border.
    And you still haven’t said how it would work.

    So there remain collective choice decisions to be made. Decentralised ledger technology and improved communication technology undermine the representative democracy model – we can have direct democracy.

    This is bullshit.
    Your Swedish style democracy theory here negates one simple fact.
    Sweden has geographic borders.

    Taking your theory here, my local council wishes to enact something and through your technology we in the council’s zone can vote “directly” yet there still has to be a geographical border for that council.

    I actually believe getting too caught up in your technology here, means many a global socialist in the UN will be sincerely grateful for the line you are pushing.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘at a time when the country was at existential threat from Imperial Japan, and then seen a PM who had gone missing at that crucial time’

    Agreed. Curtin was a pisswreck who couldn’t run a fish and chip shop.

    He was, however, a slave to the US and in particular MacArthur.

    Is that what all this is about, Old Yeller?

  43. Shy Ted

    Bond isn’t marrying a real doctor. She’s a Pizza Hut Delivery doctor.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘That same PM who introduced national service had served as an officer in the Melbourne University Rifles but avoided operational service when 62000 of his generation died.’

    If you had two brothers already overseas and in the trenches when your number came up, Liability Bob, no-one would care whether you went or not. No-one cares to this day, in fact.

    But you didn’t, and were therefore not special.

    Why this country gambled with losing your immense talent in junior spacktard management is a question for the ages.

  45. Rex Mango

    Anyone noticed how death in NT now a ‘death in custody’ to pump up the stats for a preferred narrative? No different to BOM cooking the books re historical temperature record.

  46. bespoke

    Was Germany a existential threat to Australia, numberwang?

  47. Cohenite:

    Talking to leftie things like the troll is like talking to a viscous blob of shit.

    Sorry, but I have to correct you on this one.
    It is not like talking to a viscous blob of shit – unless you have been taking a large dose of LSD.

    We return to our regular programming.

  48. struth

    And Sinclair, Sir, Oh great doom lord , Master of the Smote, Gracious giver of free speech to many through a private blog, please do not take offense.

    We’re just trying to help, as we did with your Malcolm Turnbull Fetish.

  49. cohenite

    Borders are mechanisms to corral taxpayers and serfs and limit the provision of public services.

    No they’re not; borders keep out enemies. The whole exodus of the world is now towards the West because the West is the best place to live. In that exodus however are enemies of the West who want to destroy the West. The RoP and chinks are the obvious examples. They are not coming here because the West is the best but because the West is a constant reminder of how hideous their alternative is; so from their viwpoint it must be destroyed. And the West’s strengths, it’s freedoms, can be used against it; both the RoP and the chinks know this. Borders are one of the most important defences we have to this.

    and

    Decentralised ledger technology and improved communication technology undermine the representative democracy model – we can have direct democracy.

    I don’t know what this means. Democracy is under attack not only from the above but by cheating, false votes being the main form used by the left. This could be cleaned up easily by tightening up the voting process by aligning it with eligible voter identification. That’s a simple process. Forms of democracy from sortition to the various majority systems are merely process on the main point: which is those eligible to vote must be part of the democracy and not be interlopers of the type described above. Which is to say to be eligible to vote you must adhere and accept the democratic process and not advocate an ideology which is contrary to the democratic process and which would over throw that process. Self described commies and RoP should not be eligible to vote as a case in point.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s worse than that, Rex.

    I’ve heard tell that in the NT, anyone who dies within 24 hours of NOT being in custody is automatically classified as a death in custody until proven otherwise.

  51. stackja

    Chris Uhlmann
    @CUhlmann
    Jim Molan won by 321 votes to 260 for former party state director Richard Shields.
    @9NewsAUS
    #auspol

  52. Sinclair Davidson

    I cherish my fetishes. I don’t want spoiled. 😁

  53. Colonel Crispin Berka

    > The need for hard borders is dramatically reduced.

    The department of Immigration and Border Protection was way ahead of you on this. Back in 2017, having recently merged their two departments together, they were then promoting on their web site their new cohesive philosophy that “the border is not a line, it is a region”. The border was no longer confined to 24nmi off the shoreline, but could extend outwards into the ports and embassies of other countries and inwards to the warehouses and streets of Australia. This was quite a neat rhetorical trick for bringing invasive customs inspections and Navy military force to anywhere that immigration agents had ever been, which is basically everywhere. Clever, but kinda creepy in a militarisation-of-the-civil-police type of way.

    I don’t see this future mobile workforce will lead to Australian police operating as police in other countries, nor that other countries are going to enforce Australia’s laws on the mobile workers, although extradition is the fallback solution. Really screws with the old fiefdom / monarchist notion of The Law of The Land.

  54. bespoke

    And Sinclair, Sir, Oh great doom lord , Master of the Smote, Gracious giver of free speech to many through a private blog, please do not take offense.

  55. Rex Mango

    KD, excellent observation re the polling booth altercation with parents present.

    Hazmatic, some great research work.

  56. MatrixTransform

    Crypo-accountancy.
    Guaranteed to make you freer or no money back.

    I can see why this idea is pitched up the chain rather than down.
    Rex Masterrace would love it.
    Joel Prole might be a little skeptical

    The global ledger and the distribution or allocation of spending on infrastructure for instance is gonna be what managed from a planning console operated by uber-egalitarians? (rhetorical)

    I suppose governance central will allocate resources using a sort of leveling algorithm.
    Same way they will assign labour and distribute food…. and electricity
    You know, for good instead of ebil

    Border … The line or frontier area separating political divisions or geographic regions; a boundary.

    a mountain range is a border and so is an ocean …especially if you’re surrounded by them.
    A language is a border

    all a bit starry-eyed in my opinion

    Have we questioned why borders exist in the first place?

  57. 8th Dan

    Was Germany a existential threat to Australia

    Menzies thought so. “It is my melancholy duty, etc”

  58. struth

    If the Coalition government of the day had sent no Australian soldiers to Vietnam because of the protests of what you call the “Left”, would that same “Left” have been responsible for saving their lives?

    As we see today, you do not get democracy and will not accept the will of the people.
    That government was democratically elected.

    Once the majority of Australians through their representative parliament, sent those guys to war, the left should have been behind those guys 100 per cent.
    Protesting against the efforts of your own country’s soldiers while the war is on is a disgrace.
    It’s not rocket science, dickhead.
    They were fighting commos and commos here were upset about it, and they were , like today, a very small minority.
    After many realised we couldn’t win with the noisy minority and the lefties in the halls of power sabotaging victory, many then got tired of the whole show.
    The lefties in the western democracies in many respects did more to help the commos win than the average Vietcong.
    And in doing so, many Australians died, and the blood is on their hands.

    And you are all still fighting against western democracy while refusing to leave it.

  59. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I didn’t ask Menzies.’

    Bahahaaaa.

  60. MatrixTransform

    Was Germany a existential threat to Australia

    Wouldn’t have happened if they had crypot-Reichsmarks back in the day

  61. struth

    Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult.

    What Rubbish.
    Liberals ((American left)) want the government to rule you.
    Conservatives want to rule the government through democracy.
    And Libertarians are scared of any government.

  62. Stimpson J. Cat

    I cherish my fetishes. I don’t want spoiled. 😁

    At least you’ll always have Blockchains
    “potential greatness “.

  63. Win

    Campbell Newman introduced bar coded house references to speed up the badtempered voting day line ups. The LaborLadies Palachook and Trad ditched it as soon as they got in ,it hampered the day trippers from across the boarder who vote in Qld .

  64. bespoke

    Menzies has blood on his hands.

  65. cohenite

    Win

    #3207529, posted on November 10, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    There is no doubt false voting in this country is rife and all one way: towards the stinking left.

  66. Sinclair Davidson

    Jim Molan got pre-selection for the Senate.

  67. 8th Dan

    Now We Are Free

    Composed by Hams Zimmer. With assistance , at his invitation, from Lisa Gerrard. To incorporate her nonsense language lyrical nasal sound. Collaborator she may have been, composer she was not.

  68. lotocoti

    a peasant army

    Oh my sides.

  69. Tel

    I’ve heard tell that in the NT, anyone who dies within 24 hours of NOT being in custody is automatically classified as a death in custody until proven otherwise.

    That sounds a bit WTF at first glance … but seems to check out.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-03/police-fear-deaths-in-custody-after-sobering-up-centre-closure/10188024

    Mr Gill said there could be serious problems with leaving intoxicated people with family or, as a last resort, in police lock-up.

    “You have got to bear in mind too that once someone is in police custody or in the care of a police officer, that extends for 24 hours after you drop that person off,” he said.

    So many special rules!

  70. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3207470, posted on November 10, 2019 at 2:10 pm
    Fantastic news to see the Chinese finally taking gaming addiction seriously and implementing my recommendations.
    Bravo. 😁

    This is an incredibly important and significant action that could foreshadow the impending fall of Communist China.
    Pay attention Gentlepeople.
    Remember this moment.
    Think it through.

  71. Black Ball

    Young moppet during a break in the cricket, says it’s good being compared to the great Shane Keith Warne. Many have been and many more will but Warney will remain as one of the top handful of cricketers for eternity.

  72. John Constantine

    https://me.me/i/bye-forest-ill-be-back-when-youre-a-shrimp-billionaire-c11ef8375af04421a73c900db3f5bc85

    Forest Gump would get on the right fork of the cryptocurrency revolution.

    The Jennies of this generation’s incel cryptonaires never leave in the first place [ just keep a burner phone for internet hookups.]

  73. MatrixTransform

    all your crypot belong to us

  74. calli

    Uh oh. I broke a rule. Well, one of Churchill’s rules anyway.

  75. Steve trickler

    All this fuss over a train! 😎



  76. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Newman introduced bar coded house references to speed up the badtempered voting day …. Palachook and Trad ditched it
    false voting in this country is rife

    You’ll have to refresh my memory of how the barcodes were used taht year. But I still have a question anyway.
    How is a barcode that you can’t read more auditable than a name label that you can read?

  77. MatrixTransform

    That’s not a train, its a cross-state steam-powered crypto-people-portal

  78. Colonel Crispin Berka

    MatrixTransform
    #3207548, posted on November 10, 2019 at 3:52 pm
    That’s not a train, its a cross-state steam-powered crypto-people-portal

    ..cross-state steam-powered crypto-people-..

                      steam-powered crypto

                     Steam-powered Crypto

     
    Well you see, MatrixTransform, when a mummy Cyberpunk and a daddy Steampunk love each other very much, Amazon delivers a Steamcypher Punk down the Prime Air landing tube, and that’s where your comment came from!

  79. Stimpson J. Cat

    Has anyone considered the hypothesis that Blockchain is a colossal and cumbersome tine consuming fraud created solely to reinvigorate Economics and make Economists relevent?
    Is it just me?
    😁

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    Time consuming tine correction confirmed!

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Shocked, but not surprised:

    Earlier this week in Yuendumu, the health clinic staff shut up shop and left for Alice because they were sick and tired of punters breaking into the clinic and their homes, stealing their shit and in one instance trying to rope them.

    The offender was allegedly identified on Sat’dy as one Arnold Walker, who on top of that had also breached his parole by allegedly doing so.

    Cops go round to the Walker estate. Walker allegedly stabs one cop and is allegedly shot by the other. Both cops, having nowhere else to take him as the clinic is closed, drag him into the station and allegedly try to keep him alive whilst throwing furniture at the doors and windows to keep his ‘lations out.

    And there he died, not having access to expertise that MAY have saved him because those who could have provided that expertise were fed up with him breaking into their shit and left town just a few days earlier.

    This is, of course, whitey’s fault.

  82. MatrixTransform

    and that’s where your comment came from

    So I’m not really a crypto cabbage patch baby?

    I miss my crypto stork already

  83. notafan

    “issues with boyfriend” “talking about diet”

    Tedious.

    How to turn sophisticated action movie into boring chick flick

  84. Ellie

    Lizzie – at 12:41pm – I have buried that snobby bitch’s comments for a long time; sometimes things resurface, and I am sorry if they do so here.
    Who is the “snobby bitch”? Heavy read! Sad.

  85. Struth:

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if the cop was a black liason officer and the media have conveniently left that fact out to cause trouble.

    I’m not all that knowledgeable about NT copper stuff, but do the Liaison Officers carry firearms?

  86. Oh come on

    CNN with this gleeful scoop: John Bolton lands a book deal. It will publish before the 2020 presidential election

    Brian Stelter wrote it. Why do these people keep doing this to themselves?

    Here’s a prediction: Bolton’s book is going to be wholly unremarkable and will contain nothing that damages Trump’s re-election prospects.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston,

    No, they don’t carry. And with good reason, because culture and tribes etc.

  88. Colonel Crispin Berka

    So I’m not really a crypto cabbage patch baby?

    Affirmative. Your foster parents are dead. Probably Max too.
    The Cabbage-1000 simply copied your real punkrents and waited for you to establish contact.

    And stop calling me “baby”.

  89. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Colonel Crispin wins the internet for today.

  90. Bar Beach Swimmer

    feelthebern
    #3207445, posted on November 10, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    If all local/state/federal agencies used chain of responsibility software, we’d be able to compare data regarding hazard reduction decisions & outcomes.

    About 2 years ago I contacted a neighbouring council about the overgrown verges including large natives overhanging the road to the airport. Finally, after being ricocheted around numerous local govt/govt offices, I was informed that no trees could be pruned or removed in the area because of the presence of “sacred trees”.

    Recently, a new housing subdivision with direct access on to the airport road has commenced development. So what you may ask happened to the “sacred trees”? Well, maybe, the nomenclature has a degree of portability attached so that councils can maximise rateable income. In this case those particular “sacred trees” don’t seem to have been much of a concern because a large amount of the vegetation has been removed by a bulldozer, that great bit of machinery once endemic to hazard reduction burn-offs all over the Australian bush.

    This is what the community is up against: no burn off because of “green”, no pruning because of “sacred” and no “blame” because of no chain of responsibility. To emphasise environmental credentials and/or to save money, govts deliberately hide behind these vacuous claims despite the dangerous fuel load that risks residents’ lives and their property.

  91. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thank you Doomlord.

    For your explanation of our differences of opinion re libertarianism.
    All my fault, really.
    I just never realised you were a Marxist-Leninist is all.
    My bad. Humblest apologies.

  92. Zatara

    Baby Trump Balloon bites the dust in Alabama

    I can’t think of an American football event less likely for that balloon to survive at than Louisiana State University vs. Alabama University. Neither is famous for allowing morons to get in their faces and surviving.

    Frankly, it’s amazing there is anything left of the looming latex legend to salvage. Some reports say it’s irreparable.

    Safe bet that Mr Hoyt Hutchinson will be drinking free for a very long time. He’s now immortal and a “Free Hoyt!” gofundme page set up to provide for his legal defense has made $9,589 of a $5,000 goal in less than 8 hours.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Everything sacred has its price, BBS.

    Just ask the alleged custodians of the even more alleged birthing trees smack in the middle of the proposed highway redevelopment in Vicco.

    Give ’em enough folding stuff and they’ll use the trees as firewood.

  94. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ellie, it was the awful woman who showed me that clipping of my mum working in a factory hoping to break me. The look on her face was so sneering and triumphant – look what I’ve found out about you, it said, you with your name on the door and we all have to call you Miss. We know there’s something about you that isn’t like the others up there, those girls from the private schools and the moneyed families. We’ll get you, it said. Sadly, there were people like that around, sniffy insecure people who thought they were one step up better than you were, given you were on a steep learning curve for clothes and manners, not even being vaguely middle class, even though you had the good job and they were working down in the basement.

    At one time when I first arrived in Sydney I was sent by a flat-share agency to take a room in a grand old mansion in Mosman, where the owners prided themselves on taking well-bred young ladies in. I hated it immediately. I didn’t have a boyfriend at Duntroon, and they objected to me leaving my favorite dressing gown draped over the bed. The girl I shared with was a 28 year old spinster (in my 17 year old eyes) called Audrey, who had spent time in the Dip Corps as a secretary in Baghdad which she said was a continual party time. She was OK, and she hated it too. The owners soon asked both of us to leave. Who are your family anyway? sniffed the old woman owner from amongst her Royal Doulton figurines. They told poor Audrey that she was too old for the place. The old husband of the owner was a miserable old sod too. Very handy with his hands when his wife wasn’t around.

  95. cohenite

    I’m not all that knowledgeable about NT copper stuff, but do the Liaison Officers carry firearms?

    No, but they kill wombats.

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve just read Phillip Adams in the Weekend Magazine of the Oz. Usually he irritates me but this weekend he’s just doing an old person’s reminisce. lol. All about being poor in the forties and the frugality of what you ate, plus the shopping at the local high street being done in separate places for meat, vegies and groceries, which all came in wraps to be put in your string bag (I added that last bit, he didn’t mention the string bags).

    And then working man’s tea at 6.30. A couple of slices of corn beef, beetroot and tomato, mashed spuds and bread on the side. My mum would never eat a meal without bread. And she lived in fear of not doing enough potatoes. She thought beetroot was ‘too Australian’ though. And tomatoes too expensive, even when they weren’t.

    Twenty years ago in the north of England it was not unusual in a pub restaurant to be presented with a bowl of small potatoes, a heap of them, just in case there weren’t enough on your plate. A customer-led initiative I suspect.

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Now people reminisce about the fall of the Berlin Wall as though it was in the olden days.

    Everyone has their times. 🙂

  98. mh

    About 2 years ago I contacted a neighbouring council about the overgrown verges including large natives overhanging the road to the airport. Finally, after being ricocheted around numerous local govt/govt offices, I was informed that no trees could be pruned or removed in the area because of the presence of “sacred trees”.

    I couldn’t read any further than that. FMD

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is there an unspoken rule that every Libertarian has to be White, relatively wealthy, and living in a Western Country?
    It just seems that way to me.
    Weird.
    Does it have any significance at all?
    Or is it just coincidence?

  100. calli

    People are cruel, Lizzie. I was knocked mercilessly in high school because mum cleaned and took in ironing. And dad was a tradesman. One thing they taught me – there is dignity in even the most menial work.

    It was great to escape into the world of banking. And that first, wonderful pay packet.

  101. Bubbles

    Still not allowed home. This bloody fire just won’t give up.
    The ancient pooch is suffering. Just lying in the corner quivering – needs to get home to her bed which, stupidly, we forgot to toss in the car when we evaced. Sad to watch the old girl’s world fall apart.

  102. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Jim Molan got pre-selection for the Senate.

    So Scott got his way over the Wets. That’s a win, of sorts.

  103. calli

    Give her a pat from me, bubbles.

    And here’s a extra hug for you. Electronic, of course.

  104. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Is there an unspoken rule that every Libertarian has to be White, relatively wealthy, and living in a Western Country?

    It’s not exactly a “rule” Stimpy, but to understand, even be aware of, true libertarian philosophy, requires a basic understanding of personal freedom and the opportunity to work and accumulate wealth.

    Unfortunately, for some unknown reason, up to now personal freedom and the opportunity to work and accumulate wealth has only occurred in western countries populated with white, comparatively wealthy people prepared to work.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    People are cruel, Lizzie.

    Yes, Calli. Sorry to hear of your similar experience. I know I’m not the only one who has had some hard knocks. In fact, in many ways I have been very lucky. I did get a chance to get better employment once I’d turned 18. Before that I worked in a range of jobs from age 14 on, the longest for three years as one of a team of three receptionists in a local doctor’s surgery in the 50’s. It had a spin off – the dentist at the back of the place would call us girls in for teeth treatment in quiet moments. We all had terrible teeth.

  106. EvilElvis

    struth
    #3207500, posted on November 10, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    Are you joking?

    My sentiments as well, struth.
    Academics should be like children, rarely seen and never heard. FMD.

  107. How is a barcode that you can’t read more auditable than a name label that you can read?

    Legend has it…
    That 3D barcodes on US post parcels have the name, address and comments like “throw it over the fence, the guy is a turkey!”

    No scanner, no play.

  108. Ellie

    My maternal grandparents made the decision to leave, aided by my hero, Frank Foley. Others, in denial, stayed, and perished in the Holocaust. I won’t ever forget.

    https://www.facebook.com/StandWithUs/videos/10156768251594805/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

  109. Des Deskperson

    ‘I’ve just read Phillip Adams in the Weekend Magazine of the Oz. Usually he irritates me but this weekend he’s just doing an old person’s reminisce. lol. All about being poor in the forties’

    ‘Dirt poor’ in Kew?? When I was a kiddie – a couple of decades after Squatter Fatgut, admittedly – we used to marvel at all those tiers of posh Kew houses on the other side of the river. Why would poor people live in Kew, then or now; higher prices, higher rates, higher rents, few blue-collar jobs. It’s possible of course, but I’m always suspicious when bourgie lefties trot out their working class credentials.

  110. calli

    There’s a pecking order in most social settings. An all-girls school is probably the worst, but the same sort of stuff goes on in workplaces. Nothing much changes.

    On the meat teas, don’t forget the big brown teapot and cups and saucers.

    There was one time when the family was so broke we had grilled devon as the “meat”. But the house was paid off in seven years, no mean feat.

  111. Academics should be like children, …

    NO.
    That’s the problem. They are like children. Very young children.

  112. calli

    But we were never forced to lick road.

    😁

  113. Our family was so poor when I was growing up
    If I hadn’t been a boy, I’d have had nothing to play with

  114. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    But we were never forced to lick road.

    So, you’re from that family of rich bastards who lived in the shoe box.
    I should have guessed.

  115. Nick

    Donald Trump Jr slams The View Host Sunny Hostin by asking what it’s like to be paid by a network that ‘protected pedophile – rapist Jeffrey Epstein’ in war of words on Twitter

    Donald Trump Jr blasted The View host Sunny Hostin by asking ‘what it’s like’ to be paid by a network that ‘protected pedophile-rapist Jeffrey Epstein
    Their fiery exchange came days after the two went head to head on the show
    Hostin suggested he committed a crime by naming the Ukrainian whistle-blower
    He has fired back on Twitter by questioning her credentials as a lawyer
    He also asked her ‘what it’s like’ to be paid by a network protected pedophile-rapist Jeffery Epstein’
    Ashley Bianco claimed on Friday she did not leak the hot mic video of Amy Robach ranting about ABC killing off her Jeffrey Epstein story
    The 25-year-old was fired from her job at CBS on Thursday after ABC went to the network and accused her of leaking the footage

  116. Nick

    Donald Trump Jr slams The View Host Sunny Hostin by asking what it’s like to be paid by a network that ‘protected pedophile – rapist Jeffrey Epstein’ in war of words on Twitter
    Donald Trump Jr blasted The View host Sunny Hostin by asking ‘what it’s like’ to be paid by a network that ‘protected p r. Jeffrey Epstein

    Their fiery exchange came days after the two went head to head on the show
    Hostin suggested he committed a crime by naming the Ukrainian whistle-blower
    He has fired back on Twitter by questioning her credentials as a lawyer
    He also asked her ‘what it’s like’ to be paid by a network protected p r Jeffery Epstein’
    Ashley Bianco claimed on Friday she did not leak the hot mic video of Amy Robach ranting about ABC killing off her Jeffrey Epstein story
    The 25-year-old was fired from her job at CBS on Thursday after ABC went to the network and accused her of leaking the footage

  117. Stimpson J. Cat
    #3207581, posted on November 10, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    Is there an unspoken rule that every Libertarian has to be White, relatively wealthy, and living in a Western Country?

    Not really champ.

    George Ayittey: Cheetahs vs. Hippos for Africa’s future

  118. Arky

    For those claiming that good Samaritan’s are everywhere in all cultures, and Jesus was just a lame-o hippy dude:


  119. And Libertarians are scared of any government.

    You should always be fearful of the government.

    They should always be fearful of us.

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    Not really champ.
    George Ayittey: Cheetahs vs. Hippos for Africa’s future

    Where does he live again?
    I forget.

  121. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3207562, posted on November 10, 2019 at 4:22 pm
    What Economists (Including Me) Got Wrong About Globalization
    by Paul Krugman.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ja ja!!!!

    So a Nobel winning economist didnt think increasing the supply of labor would have a big effect on wages?
    Because magic.
    Was he dropped on his head as a kid or something?

  122. notafan

    Adams lived on his grandparents tiny farm in East Kew.

    Linked the story a little while ago.

    Naturally East Kew was nothing like Kew, still isn’t, though now expensive like most of inner east Melbourne.

  123. thefrollickingmole

    incoherent rambler
    #3207602, posted on November 10, 2019 at 5:36 pm
    Our family was so poor when I was growing up
    If I hadn’t been a boy, I’d have had nothing to play with

    If youd been a girl you could have had as many of them to play with as you liked.

  124. thefrollickingmole

    In ex-Soviet Russia you put arms IN your backpack.

    Woman’s arms found in backpack of Russian professor
    Napoleonic expert Oleg Sokolov fell in river trying to dispose of body parts, say authorities, with other remains found at his home

    Police in Saint Petersburg have arrested a prominent Russian historian on suspicion of murdering a former student after he was hauled out of a river with a backpack containing a woman’s arms, authorities said.

    Local media in Saint Petersburg reported that university professor Oleg Sokolov was drunk and fell into the river as he tried to dispose of body parts on Saturday.

  125. Oh come on

    Who remembers when Ben Shapiro called Ron Paul, Ann Coulter, and Donald Trump Alt Right?
    I do.

    To be fair, people are allowed to change their minds and get things wrong. I used to like listening to Ben Shapiro, for example.

  126. struth

    You should always be fearful of the government.

    X

    They should always be fearful of us.

    ./

  127. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look if we are having a Catallaxy Victimhood competition,
    my people, the Mentally Ill, were the very first victims of the G™rmans, were also the early guinea pigs/prototypes for the H™locaust, and they suffered far worse than the J™ws.
    In fact, many of them were actually J™ws.
    They don’t get any memorials.
    But that’s fine.

    I remember.

  128. calli

    The Victim Totem Pole is now open for business!

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    cohenite, 5.05;

    That would be the SAPOL ones that stone wombats.

    The NT ones use the Dark Emu shotguns to kill dugongs by the dozen.

    Allegedly.

  130. Ok boomers

    Actually get a crypto account to understand it more.

    1. The idea that fiat currency is stable and all other commodities and cryptos are volatile, is laughable. The FX markets between fiat currencies shows by example that this is demonstrably false.

    2. By mid 2018, BTC was a virtually a working currency. There are and were private cards and wallets that could be used for cash and like any EFT or credit card. Ten X, Coin Jar for example.

    3. Bills could be paid by Satoshi’s Living Room otherwise.

    4. The duplicity, bullshit, bullying and use of state thguggery by banks to beat BTC and other crypto over the head until XRP was established was just disgusting. Easy to appeal to dumb boomer politicians who can’t even understand fiat currency finances I suppose.

    5. BTC has appreciated remarkably since it began, from virtually nothing to several thousand dollars per coin. Over more than a decade. It has some intrinsic value.

    6. “Secret currencies” and drugs, sex and terry wrists on the dark web! How is the government going to ban Monero for example?

    7. LTC, BTC, ETH and the like are not anonymous like Monero. Dash CAN be untraceable, but so can cash (if you know what you are doing).

    8. There are at least four reputable coins – ETH, BTC, Dash and LTC.

    9. The point of crypto is not to end currencies per se through agorism, but it seriously challenges the need for banks. A wallet means you are your own banker and with P2P lending (and possibly collateralisation), why do we need banks that don’t want customers anyway?

    10. The prior point belies a lot of the motivation, venom and lies about crypto.

    11. Global warming and power consumption is brought up as a downside. Please!

    12. Libra is truly terrible shit and if you want to be shadow banned from life milestones for wrongthink, go ahead.

    13. A lot of boomers (sorry) conflated scams like BitConnect and USI-Tech with BTC itself.

    14. BTC and other crypto do what economists and governments wanted: no issues with gold storage or theft, a universal medium of exchange and a global currency that can act like SDRs.

    15. BTC is what banks were evolving towards. Banks are tech companies now, byut they’re still laggard dinosaurs. They got leapfrogged by a new entrant to the market; this is why they are being such utter bastards, like not processing payments for CoinJar. Hmm, maybe you should try and buy them out boys. There is no guarantee banks would have competitive advantage to the level of “proprietary lock-in” forever. Their lunch is being eaten by things like private vaults and ZOPA anyway.

    16. You can’t “hack” BTC. FFS.

    17. BTC needs LTN to work properly and to end forking (or improve it) to seriously become a currency. They also need an on-blockchain alternative to LTN. If latency goes, they can keep POW and the downsides of forks, there is no reason to fear it. It is a benefit to the world we would have achieved as a species because of thousands of years of progress. If it improves to this extent, it ought to be embraced.

  131. Ellie

    Yeah. It’s a hoot. Have a laugh.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly

    Hoyt Hutchinson, 32, was charged with felony first-degree criminal mischief, according to the Tuscaloosa News. The paper reported that Hutchinson posted a Facebook Live video saying he planned to deflate the balloon depicting Trump as a crying baby wearing a diaper and holding a cell phone.

    Which he did – the irredeemable criminal that he is.

  133. Oh come on
    #3207625, posted on November 10, 2019 at 6:10 pm

    Who remembers when Ben Shapiro called Ron Paul, Ann Coulter, and Donald Trump Alt Right?
    I do.

    To be fair, people are allowed to change their minds and get things wrong. I used to like listening to Ben Shapiro, for example.

    I think we’re all alt-right. Shaprio is alt-right. Neo Nazis are socialists [how can they be right-wing – Stalin was nationalistic as well], we (a diverse range of views) are the alternative, fringe of the right and do not accept the utterly useless RINOs or stupida facking liberals.

    It’s a matter of definitions. The left are better at politics in this way that they have not taken shots at each other for being called more left wing than each other.

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Victim Totem Pole is now open for business!

    Some would say that Libertarians are in fact the greatest Victims of all, consistently having to deal with eternal failure in the marketplace of ideas.

    Spare a thought for them please, Gentlepeople.
    😁

  135. Des Deskperson

    ‘Naturally East Kew was nothing like Kew, still isn’t, though now expensive like most of inner east Melbourne.’

    Yeah, but even in those days, East Kew – Harp St, Belmont Rd, Burke Rd – never struck me as being ‘poor’, at least not in any way comparable with West Heidelberg!

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Adams lived on his grandparents tiny farm in East Kew.

    Or Far Kew as we like to call it.

  137. Mark A

    calli
    #3207630, posted on November 10, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    The Victim Totem Pole is now open for business!

    Nothing much wrong happened to me in my youth.

    I missed out!
    I claim victimhood, need sympathy and compensation

  138. Kerry Packer was bloody awesome in that Senate stitch up.

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    Shapiro is alt-right.

    You will always have Stand Up Comedy if you don’t succeed at Law, Dot.

  140. Leigh Lowe

    Police in Saint Petersburg have arrested a prominent Russian historian on suspicion of murdering a former student after he was hauled out of a river with a backpack containing a woman’s arms, authorities said.

    Presumably he will invoke the Second Amendment in his defence … “The Right to Bear Arms”.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yeah. It’s a hoot. Have a laugh.

    Go watch The Producers.
    Always cheers me up.
    Mel Brooks is great.

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    I’m sure the poor Russki didn’t mean any arm.

  143. notafan

    Adams was talking 1940s before West Heidelberg war widows and Olympic flats etc were built.

    If someone was ‘farming’ a handful of acres I’d assume subsistence level in the 1940s.

    He left there and went to live with his mother and stepfather.

  144. jupes

    Borders are mechanisms to corral taxpayers and serfs and limit the provision of public services.

    No. The main purpose of borders is to keep out those who would do you harm.

    Blockchain or crypto can do nothing about that.

  145. jupes

    Go watch The Producers.

    Stimpson having another one of his bouts of racism.

  146. Stimpson J. Cat

    I think we’re all alt-right.

    Remind me of your Alt Right views on Immigration, Free Trade, and The Wall again, Dot.
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ja ja!!!!

  147. classical_hero

    https://youtu.be/opT_JGssUVk

    The moral committee after agreeing on another resolution.

  148. egg_

    Asian immigration is transforming Australia and the country will soon become “more Asian than European”, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has predicted.

    Yeah, thanks for all the Third World drivers clogging Sydney’s Motorways.

  149. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson having another one of his bouts of racism.

    Say what you feel.
    You don’t really mean to say racism.
    You want to say another word.
    Just say it.
    Don’t be shy, now.
    Then describe exactly how I am being that word to everyone for merely recommending someone watch The Producers.
    It will be entertaining indeed.
    You see I actually believe in Free Speech.
    😁

  150. Caveman

    Apply Packers grilling to Google ,FB n Twitter it’s another world.

  151. jupes

    Asian immigration is transforming Australia and the country will soon become “more Asian than European”, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has predicted.

    Media rushes to apologise to Pauline Hansen.

  152. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Now you’ve done it Classical Hero.
    Hell hath no fury like the Committee mocked.

  153. Percy Popinjay

    Family Kangaroo Court lawyers should be tarred, feathered and then herded into shipping containers, bulldozed off a high cliff into the sea and then incinerated.

    Fixed.

  154. Muddy

    Bubbles
    #3207585, posted on November 10, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Sorry to read that, Bubbles. For both you and the dog.

  155. Very few of us here are in the conservative mainstream.

    By definition it is alt-right.

    Richard Spencer for example rejected being called alt right when he became an identitarian.

    He started off as a libertarian inclined paeloconservative who disliked neoconservative ideology.

    Of course, common usage often makes etymology redundant so I can understand why you’d baulk at the notion.

    If Richard Spencer doesn’t think of himself anymore as alt-right, then that’s good enough for me though.

  156. Percy Popinjay

    Yeah, Howie, Ruff, Gillard, Yabbott, Morristeen and Turnbuckle, thanks for all the Third World drivers clogging Sydneystan’s goat tracks

    Fixed.

  157. Colonel Crispin Berka

    calli #3207630, posted on November 10, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    The Victim Totem Pole is now open for business!

    Thanks, but have to pass.
    I was already disqualified from the Catallaxy Victim Totem Pole as I had recently “won the internet for today.”
    You can’t win things and claim victim’s rights too, it’s just not Progressively halal.

  158. Family Kangaroo Court lawyers should be tarred, feathered and then herded into shipping containers, bulldozed off a high cliff into the sea and then incinerated.

    NO

    Men in family court ought to identify as persons of colour and demand that the court rule in their favour, starting campaigns in Aboriginal or refugee focused news and propaganda outlets, “Justice for Blackfella Knuckle Dragger”…etc.

    Judge X is a white dog, colonialist, etc. Secret men’s business, I can only be heard before an elder I recognise in secret, in camera, with only my counsel present, etc.

  159. Steve trickler

    It’s a good ride. 😁



  160. Johno

    Cryptos have to be mined. Every internet transaction has the potential to be hacked. A $10 note can be counterfeited but it can’t be hacked. Counterfeit notes can be detected and counteracted, once a crypto is hacked it is finished, and that is the difference.

    Cryptos are the wave of the matadors cloak. Good stuff be here. Passing fad.

  161. You can’t “hack a crypto” anymore than you can “hack the internet”.

  162. Knuckle Dragger

    WT holy F Frank???????

  163. Overburdened

    http://www.gideonhaigh.com/biography/

    I note with interest some bloke called Gideon Haigh has taken up the cudgels against Margaret Court because he doesn’t like her opinion, and how dare she.

    Studying his biography I note that there are not sporting achievements listed.

    This clown makes his living from commenting on sport.

    I admit to reading something he wrote years ago giving his opinion on something that was apparently news in sport at the time.

    The impression I got was that he was a spaghetti armed do nothing puffed up dickhead with good self esteem and impervious to being wrong.

    I will now return to ignoring him.

  164. Stimpson J. Cat

    Very few of us here are in the conservative mainstream.
    By definition it is alt-right.

    Just stop.
    Please.

  165. Percy Popinjay

    Yeaah, no, Pol.

    The previously referred to option is the best.

    Apropos off nothing, let’s have some Emily Ratakwerty, I tells ya! 🙂

  166. Johno

    Not one internet transaction in history has ever been hacked. Thank you Dot.

  167. No Stimpy.

    Richard Spencer called himself alt-right when he was a paleoconservative.

    He eschewed that label when he became an identiarian.

    If you don’t accept the word of Richard Spencer, then you’re basically accepting the lies of Hillary Clinton.

  168. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/1NP-kD4C1SA

    Pursuing a bit of ancestry.com after identifying that Gideon Haigh is a Pom, the origins of his formula for success in the Australian media has been uncovered.

  169. Johno

    You are comparing wire fraud with “hacking a crypto”.

    Explain how you would hack BTC. I’m not asking for code or programming specifics. I mean, how would you destroy BTC by hacking it? What servers would you need to hack etc?

    Then ask yourself why this cannot be done at the US Fed or ECB.

    “It can’t be used for everyday transactions”

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/dt4e88/i_ate_at_mcdonalds/

  170. Percy Popinjay

    Oh, FFS, have we stopped heaving yet?

    The real thing. Indistinguishable from a 13 year old.

  171. Oh, FFS, have we stopped heaving yet?

    That image was no longer shocking, because we live in current year. No worse than what you see down at Woolies or the pub. Or in the Belgian Federal Cabinet.

  172. Stimpson J. Cat

    If you don’t accept the word of Richard Spencer, then you’re basically accepting the lies of Hillary Clinton.

    Beep Boop!

  173. Anyone man who finds Emily Ratalphabet, Joanna Krupa or Kate Upton attractive is clearly a degenerate child abusing freak.

    …and only women can nurture children.

  174. Roger

    Asian immigration is transforming Australia and the country will soon become “more Asian than European”, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has predicted.

    My observation – fwiw – is that very many of the offspring of those Asian immigrants are – despite the best efforts of the government sponsored multikulti industry – thoroughly inculturated and not greatly charmed by the sh^tholes their parents emigrated from.

    Q to Australian teenager of Indian descent: What’s the best thing about India?

    A: The airport on the way home.

  175. P

    Ellie
    #3207592, posted on November 10, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    My maternal grandparents made the decision to leave, aided by my hero, Frank Foley. Others, in denial, stayed, and perished in the Holocaust. I won’t ever forget.
    https://www.facebook.com/StandWithUs/videos/10156768251594805/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

    I can’t access Facebook. I was just reading theconservativetreehouse.com – Open thread when I came across this post:
    David says:
    November 10, 2019 at 2:17 am
    This is your Israeli friend. I posted here a translated song from Israel by probably the best selling singer in Israel. His name is Omer Adam. Pay attention to the words, it’s spiritual and beautiful. Enjoy.

  176. Percy Popinjay

    No worse than what you see down at Woolies or the pub

    Strong, fat, staggeringly uglee wymminses, Pol.

    Since I banned Newtown (sod you, Jobbo G) I’m seeing a lot less of them. Keep away from collectivist Oblasts and you’ll be fine, Tovarisch.

  177. Muddy

    Percy Popinjay
    #3207684, posted on November 10, 2019 at 7:08 pm

    Apropos off nothing, let’s have some Emily Ratakwerty, I tells ya! 🙂

    You fecker. I fell for that.

  178. Overburdened

    Frank.
    Re your post regarding what constitutes the group identity one fits into, if they give half a fuck enough to think about such things, I find simplicity best.

    Some people are interested in such intellectual gymnastics and the overriding majority don’t care.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    OB;

    Gideon Haigh was in his younger years a cricketer, albeit of no great note. He was and is, however, very very well connected with the Ponsonby-de la Pole-Mortimer set who were educated at Eton since the Middle Ages, and who possess admirable collections of shooting sticks for use on their Scottish estates – themselves seized from the Scot proles during some war in the 1300s.

    He’s used his connections to get on board Wisden’s Almanac, which pre-smartphone was the Bible for cricketing stats, personalities and so on. Invoking the name of Wisden allowed him to get access to top-line cricketers over a couple of decades not available to the standard povo crikkit writers.

    He’s now obviously experienced in this field enough to provide informed commentary on Margaret Court.

    Which would be fine, if he’d started on Peter ‘Spanky’ Roebuck and about a dozen Saffies in the 50s and 60s (and 70s and 80s, for that matter) that were not renowned for their love of their dusky countrymen.

    But he didn’t do any of that, so can adequately be described as a pompous flog.

  180. Johno

    All Crypto transactions must be backwards compatible and forward compatible verified. Some day a smart person will insert a prong between two transactions and then the world is his oyster.

    Your banks and the Fed use PKI to protect your wire via SSL. They use 256 encryption and change it regularly. They still get hacked. Crypto is just more secure, at present.

  181. cohenite

    You can’t “hack a crypto” anymore than you can “hack the internet”.

    WTF

    What will fuck BTC and the others is power, or lack thereof (see Redbank), centralisation and criminality and a lack of textuality; there is nothing like a $100 note in the hand.

  182. MatrixTransform

    100 bucks worth of bitcoin from 2012 would have paid my house off in 2016.

    Stable as mate

    and the value is underwritten by … never mind.

    nah, yeah … electricity.

    get yr batteries here

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    God damn your eyes, Percy.

    I was typing about skinny Pom flogs and returned to your first effort.

    Triggered.

  184. Steve trickler

    You’ve got to love the Danes.



  185. Zatara

    5 High Profile Cryptocurrency Hacks

    Crypto can be ripped off or devalued by electronic means. Call it whatever you like.

    The concept that CC has some sort of invulnerable audit trail is false as well IMO. It takes exactly ONE fake or even inadvertently incorrect entry in that trail to bring the entire thing under question.

    Want to audit a bank? Go into the vault and count the cash, because cash is real. Try that with an entity whose reality can be modified by a keystroke from anyone with access. In seconds the “value” of an account can be zeroed, or increased tenfold, and who is to say whose electronic copy of the ‘bankbook’ is correct?

  186. Overburdened

    KD

    What you said.

    I picked up on his white privilege all those years ago.

    Being above the glass ceiling, he will not be called out unless in the unlikely event that he says something a little off script, and his fellow fuckwits will turn on him like a pack of dogs.

  187. Want to audit a bank? Go into the vault and count the cash, because cash is real. Try that with an entity whose reality can be modified by a keystroke from anyone with access. In seconds the “value” of an account can be zeroed, or increased tenfold, and who is to say whose electronic copy of the ‘bankbook’ is correct?

    Good lord you boomers literally have no idea about how banks or cyrptos actually work.

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    You can’t “hack a crypto” anymore than you can “hack the internet”.

    Yes yes.
    Blockchain will save us all!!!!
    And “Free Trade” is “Free Trade”.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ja ja ha!

  189. kaysee

    Announcing the results of the first-ever Cat Q&A.
     
    And the winner is
    (drum roll)
    Percy Popinjay
    First past the post with a 6/6 score and receives a Cat-a-Trophy.
     
    Tintarella
    Gets the Runner-up Ribbon.
     
    Of course, most answers would be as expected of dedicated Cats. However, Q5 was a trick question – sort of.
    Prior to the May election, there was the brainwashing campaign on the streets and via a particular radio station (previously Conservative, now semi-woke) by nearly every presenter, on how to vote below the line for this very, very, very worthy candidate. When that didn’t get the required result, it turned to blackmail (pick our man, or else ……..).
     
    And so it came to pass ……
    This afternoon, despite being rejected by the Catservative Selection Committee, a non-Conservative has been pre-selected by the Conservative NSW faction.
     
    The next Cat Q&A will be announced after a discussion by the committee. In order to ensure a level playing field with the other Q&A show, the Cat version will be stacked with Conservatives.
     
    Suggestions for Q&As can sent be to:

    The Cat Broadcasting Corporation
    Nowhere in Ultimo
    Sydney
     
    Or submitted in the Open Forum.

  190. calli

    calli #3207630, posted on November 10, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    The Victim Totem Pole is now open for business!

    Thanks, but have to pass.
    I was already disqualified from the Catallaxy Victim Totem Pole as I had recently “won the internet for today.”

    Yep.

    I won the *rseless chaps on Carpe’s Interruption Lotto once. Missed out on the rhinestone g-string. Mercifully.

  191. thefrollickingmole

    Book reccomendation time.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/3482973-the-dark-invader

    Finished this one, a 1936 edition left when my grandfather died.
    Great little read, the bloke set up a sabotage ring in the USA during WW1 when the Americans were busy being violently “neutral” in the early years.
    The government even changed how payments could be made to companies to allow for the massive expansion of factories producing war material.

    He was quite effective, his dudding of the Russians through a sham sale/delivery was masterful bit of spy work.
    In effect he cornered some small arms/ammo/horse contracts and filled them promptly and efficiently (He was paid a large bonus), making sure the boats caught fire on the voyage or some other fuckup ruined the shipments.
    Possibly done well enough to have caused some serious problems while the Russians were in their Galician campaigns.

    Caught in the end largely due to the Germans having their codes stolen and the government ignoring information he sent them telling them it had happened.

    Good little read.

  192. Ellie

    P – bless. You’re a treasure. I know of Omer Adam. Thank you for your kind words. It doesn’t take much to be kind.

    Anti-Semitism spews its hatred here in the good old darkness of “free (fucking) speech”.

    Your kind words are refreshing.

  193. 100 bucks worth of bitcoin from 2012 would have paid my house off in 2016.

    Stable as mate

    Show me how that isn’t appreciation against US quantitative easing.

    and the value is underwritten by … never mind.

    I’m not one to shit on fractional reserve banking, but how much gold do you think “underwrites” our currency and banks?

    If you agree with me that currency can emerge out of illiquid debt markets as liquidity bewteen parties increases, then you should be able to convince me why government printed money is better than K Mart Money, Bit Coin or money printed off by a private, asset backed bank.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    No link from where I am, but:

    KPIX in San Fran, without a hint of shame today reported on the awesomeness of The Great Greta Mural.

    The awesomeness was such that it took 2,650 litres of aerosol spray paint to finish.

  195. cohenite

    Frank you should be banned for a month; there were so many acronyms in that post of yours I gave up counting and had to bleach my computer; an act of complete bastardry.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Convicted murderer in US says life sentence was completed when he momentarily died
    PerthNow
    November 10, 2019 3:45PM
    Topics
    World News
    Crime

    A man who died – before being revived in hospital – argues he should be released from prison because he’s served his life sentence.

    Benjamin Schreiber claims that he completed his obligation, handed down for murder, when he died in 2015 and has asked a panel to let him go, according to the New York Times.

    A three-judge panel rejected his freedom bid and dismissed the Iowa man’s petition.

    “Schreiber is either still alive, in which case he must remain in prison, or he is actually dead, in which case this appeal is moot,” Judge Amanda Potterfield wrote.

    Schreiber is behind bars, sentenced for life without parole, for the 1996 murder of a man with an axe handle.

    According to his petition, he suffered seizures and a high fever brought on by septic poisoning in 2015.

    He lost consciousness and despite his do-not-resuscitate order and directions from his brother, he was brought back from the brink.

    The judges found the 66-year-old must spend the rest of his natural life behind bars, even after he was revived.

    “We do not find his argument persuasive,” Judge Potterfield wrote.

    Schreiber remains in prison.

  197. calli

    Ellie, you were quite happy to have a drive-by snark at Christians this morning.

    Free speech. Has to be free.

  198. Percy Popinjay

    For poor ol’ Pol Dot.

    Life outside the Oblasts is glittering, Squire.

    But don’t take my word for it. 🙂

  199. MatrixTransform

    Show me how that isn’t appreciation against US quantitative easing.

    You’d need to see my bank statement and do a forensic on realestate.com.au

    I’ll bet you bricks to megabits … show where the value is in BTC.

    it aint in bricks …

  200. bespoke

    Probably well over due for one of ‘those’ threads, Sad.

  201. Johno

    Schreiber is behind bars, sentenced for life without parole, for the 1996 murder of a man with an axe handle.

    Well if the man was carrying an axe handle he bloody well deserved it. Free Schreiber!!!!! Free Scheiber!!!

  202. He lost consciousness and despite his do-not-resuscitate order and directions from his brother, he was brought back from the brink.

    The judges found the 66-year-old must spend the rest of his natural life behind bars, even after he was revived.

    I’m actually sympathetic to the murderer here, but there is a practical reason to side with him.

    Let’s say the situation arises again. There is no disincentive for the prison staff to ignore the order.

    Aren’t we better off with murderers dying now than into the future?

    Then you’ve got to ask why they were so keen to ignore his wishes. Probably because of pressure from “deaths in custody” campaigners.

    He should have argued that it was torture. That would have been interesting.

    “Schreiber is either still alive, in which case he must remain in prison, or he is actually dead, in which case this appeal is moot,” Judge Amanda Potterfield wrote.

    Presumably you were silly enough to give leave to an appeal in the first instance…

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anti-Semitism spews its hatred here in the good old darkness of “free (fucking) speech”.

    No it doesn’t you whinging sook.
    Complain to management if you have a problem with the glass ceiling.

  204. Ellie

    Calli – I have a dig and a laugh at all religions. I don’t, however, laugh at the Holocaust and my family members who were murdered. Apparently it’s ok to here.

  205. Percy Popinjay

    From the “1984 was not an instruction manual, you f*cking f*ck”, files:

    Unknowing we mime, we play for the ministry

  206. Now now MT, you said BTC was volatile, now you’re saying that has no value to defend the idea that BTC volatility is a response to irresponsible CB policy.

    Unless it fluctuates around zero, this can’t be true.

    Since currencies cannot have negative value, at least one of your assertions is untrue.

    Also remember you used one assertion to buttress the other.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah geez. Here we go.

    I don’t suppose a round of jazz hands will nip this in the bud?

  208. Colonel Crispin Berka

    I have a stupid question.
    https://i.imgur.com/OghIzmK.jpg
    If corporations are to be treated as legal persons, why shouldn’t people be taxed the same way corporations are?

    Surely people are productive units in society as much as businesses are, at least to the extent they vote with their wallets when they spend. For someone unemployed on welfare (ie unproductive) this would straightforwardly translate into the Negative Income Tax method that even Milton Friedman preferred.

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    Calli – I have a dig and a laugh at all religions. I don’t, however, laugh at the Holocaust and my family members who were murdered. Apparently it’s ok to here.

    Oh I don’t think anyone is laughing at the Holocaust, but I wouldn’t presume to speak for anyone else here.
    I’m certainly not.
    I’m laughing at you, Ellie.
    You.
    😁

  210. max

    Jim Molan got pre-selection for the Senate.

    He had to promise not to run again. Two and a half years only.

  211. Nick

    Gentlepeople
    [Thats quite enough from you. Off to the naughty corner-Sinc]

  212. mh

    Stimpy, is she mentally ill?

    Appearing Saturday on CNN’s Axe Files, Cindy McCain reacted to recent happenings in Washington, D.C., saying the United States needs her late husband, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), “more than ever.”

  213. Tel

    Want to audit a bank? Go into the vault and count the cash, because cash is real.

    If that’s your strategy then every last bank will fail your audit … but you won’t be allowed to go in and do that because the banks aren’t stupid. Instead we have central bank “stress testing” where they look over the books and make sure no one ever fails.

    For what it’s worth … only a few percent of any bank’s assets are sitting in cash. That’s called “fractional reserve banking” and it means that banks try and lend out the money as quick as they can rather than hold onto it. As a consequence their assets tend to be in things of various liquidity such as mortgages, business loans, government bonds, credit card debt, and of course electronic accounts at the central bank that are essentially as good as cash even though there is no physical cash sitting there.

  214. kaysee

    Does a post with five links get past moderation or does it end up in spam?

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    Appearing Saturday on CNN’s Axe Files, Cindy McCain reacted to recent happenings in Washington, D.C., saying the United States needs her late husband, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), “more than ever.”

    She’s going to be utterly broken when it sinks in what her dad did with the Steele dossier.

  216. Zatara

    Good lord you boomers literally have no idea about how banks or cyrptos actually work.

    Perhaps. But there are plenty of people who do. They write articles such as the one I linked to, they also exploit loopholes to hack into accounts and steal money.

    “Mt. Gox declared bankruptcy and it was later discovered that the money stolen was being laundered through another exchange called BTC-e. The owner of BTC-e, Alexander Vinnik was arrested in Greece. He is being accused of laundering the money that he obtained through Mt. Gox through BTC-e and Tradehill, another exchange that he happens to own. The Greek court has cleared his extradition to the US where he faces up to 55 years in prison if accused.”

    So if you don’t like the word hacking what do you want to call it when someone breaks into your electronic account, steals the money, then launders it to destroy the trail?

    “On 17th June 2016, someone exploited this very loophole in the DAO and siphoned away one-third of the DAO’s funds. That’s around $50 million dollars. The loophole that the hacker(s) discovered was pretty straightforward in the hindsight.”

    Exploited loophole, $50 million dollars, hacker. Seems pretty clear to me.

    “The second biggest hack in the history of bitcoin was suffered by Hong Kong-based cryptocurrency exchange platform, Bitfinex. 120,000 BTC which was worth $72 million back then was stolen.”

    There are those pesky words again. Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, hacked, and of course a massive amount of money stolen.

  217. Steve trickler

    Mother and daughter.



  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, hubby not dad. I was thinking of daughter Meghan, who will be devastated too.

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