Open Forum: November 16, 2019

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  1. Tel

    Fisky #3213760:

    “Libertarians” supported the Medevac laws. That’s all you need to know.

    Who supported that?

  2. feelthebern

    Australia has the right to ban anyone from turning up here.
    China has the right to ban anyone from going there.

  3. Mater

    Vietnam was the only conflict in our history when Australians were conscripted to fight on foreign soil in peacetime.

    Settle down, Bob. Don’t soil yourself.
    I thought you were meant to be progressive? The official ‘Declaration of War’ is such an anachronistic concept, and one which will likely never be used again.
    Either way, such a political distinction would have had exactly ZERO impact on the gun toting soldiers.
    If you are going to be objective in you study of the after effects on soldiers, that we lost must be entered into the equation (along side conscription).

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Palm Island death lawyers may take case of Central Australian man allegedly killed by police
    Zach Hope
    By Zach Hope
    November 17, 2019 — 12.00am

    Lawyers who won a historic class action against the Queensland government over the death of an Aboriginal man on Palm Island may take up the case of the man allegedly shot dead by a Northern Territory police officer last weekend.

    Lawyer Andrew Boe successfully won $30 million in compensation against the Queensland government in 2018 after the Federal Court agreed the Racial Discrimination Act had been breached in connection to the death on Palm Island.

    Sydney Morning Herald

  5. 1735099

    I would agree with him on this and am not sure it supports your particular agenda.

    “My agenda” is in your head.
    Listen to the Nashos who are still around.
    They have every right to tell the truth about their service.
    Cosgrove, of course, was not a Nasho.

  6. Why are inmates permitted to have PC and internet access?

  7. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China’s People’s Liberation Army soldiers in shorts and T-shirts have made a surprising appearance on Hong Kong streets, briefly helping residents clean up debris and barricades after anti-government protests blocked roads.

  8. 1735099

    that we lost must be entered into the equation (along side conscription).

    The people who “lost” were the politicians who made the decision to deploy, and the Australian people.
    The soldiers didn’t – except those who were killed or maimed
    The pollies lost big time.
    They were booted out next election.
    The diggers who died paid the ultimate price, and their families suffered, and continue to.
    The cliche “were were winning” when we left holds true for the Australians.
    Phouc Tuy was largely secure until the point of withdrawal.

  9. Eyrie

    RobK
    #3213831, posted on November 17, 2019 at 8:49 am

    “Eyrie,
    As a kid I used to get old copies of Scientific American from a close family friend by the name of Jan CC Vis, a Delft trained physicist who was a forecaster at BoM, Perth. I owe the late Jan a gratitude for cultivating my interest in science.
    Did you know him?”

    Sure did.

  10. cohenite

    Snoopy
    #3213719, posted on November 16, 2019 at 11:21 pm
    TheirABC
    Perth has broken two weather records after four days of searing temperatures across Western Australia.
    The temperature hit 40.4 degrees today — the hottest November day since records began in 1897.

    Perth’s new temperature station, which is hotter than the previous one, opened in 1994:

    http://www.waclimate.net/perth-temperature-history.html

  11. Arky

    Vietnam was the only conflict in our history when Australians were conscripted to fight on foreign soil in peacetime.

    ..
    Underneath your personal and almost daily obsession with this you have a kinda sorta point.
    Conscription was a bloody poor way to conduct that war.
    And it shows the importance of always maintaining a strong professional armed forces.
    Conscription always seems to be the one issue that is, and understandably, the lightning rod around which opposition to wars coalesce.
    There is no way the idiots in charge like Blair and Bush would have got away with the last two decades of bloody stupidity if conscripts were involved.
    Hmmmm.
    Maybe from that point of view conscription is a positive.
    Well at least you have to admit that under Trump a resumption of these stupid wars is unlikely.

  12. min

    Bandt on Insiders this morning and I am wondering whether to watch it just in case he is challenged about the emissions of China, India and what contribution do they make in relation to Oz like bushfires and droughts.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Private Impute has returned.

  14. Mater

    Listen to the Nashos who are still around.
    They have every right to tell the truth about their service.
    Cosgrove, of course, was not a Nasho.

    Were they less well equipped?
    Were they exclusively sent on more dangerous operations?
    Were they feed different rations?
    Did they have less air support?
    Were they herded into ‘Nasho Platoons’, ‘Nasho Companies’ or ‘Nasho Battalions’?

    As a subset, exactly how did their particular “service” vary?
    I’m listening….

    What is it with the left and identity politics? Is it OK to be Regular?

  15. Nick

    Arguing today about conscription in the Vietnam war, is the same, time wise, as a WW1 soldier debating conscription in 1968

  16. What has nachos got to do with anything?
    Too much corn for me.

  17. bespoke

    That’s why I suspect Sinc get gets NDIS funding to keep so many old people of the streets, Nick. 😎

  18. feelthebern

    Raining in the seat of Wentworth.
    Always going to happen.
    I was going to get the car cleaned today.

  19. custard

    David Marr slapping down Mark Riley because he ain’t woke enough. I love it when the left eat each other. Lol

  20. mh

    Arguing today about conscription in the Vietnam war, is the same, time wise, as a WW1 soldier debating conscription in 1968

    Numbers, you should ponder on the above post from Nick.

    Then apologise to Catallaxy Files readers.

    And seek professional help.

  21. custard

    Frank has lost control of the panel……lol

  22. custard

    This will be Mark Riley’s last Insiders

  23. Mater

    Arguing today about conscription in the Vietnam war, is the same, time wise, as a WW1 soldier debating conscription in 1968

    Nick,
    Don’t take this as a rebuke, just a clarification.
    I’m not actually arguing about conscription, I dislike and disagree with conscription. I dislike and disagree with conscription just as much as I dislike and disagree with compulsory voting, which I think are two peas in a pod.
    Bob hates one, but loves the other. It’s OK to force someone to vote, but not OK to force someone to defend the democratic system which facilitates that vote. Consistency is not his strong point.

  24. bespoke

    1735099 is’t against conscription or national service

  25. Nick

    Mater, that was aimed at Bob. No offence meant.

  26. egg_

    Mark Riley on Insiders talking some sense on the abject failure of Global fora to find solutions to “Global warming” – shouted down by Marr* and Nanny Franny.
    Will he be invited back next week?

    *”It’s our failure… It’s warming up!”
    /Delusion central

  27. Mother Lode

    Private Impute has returned.

    I hope no one is impinging his repetition.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Listen.
    Elvis could be singing a duet with Edith Piaf on Insiders, but I still wouldn’t watch it.

  29. egg_

    This will be Mark Riley’s last Insiders

    For a while at least.
    Back to Camp Tolerance for him!

  30. Mother Lode

    Mater, that was aimed at Bob. No offence meant.

    Danger close?

    Or is that only when it is motor or capillary fire?

  31. bespoke

    I hope no one is impinging his repetition.

    I will.

    1735099 is mentally unstable and a liar.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    bespoke

    #3213872, posted on November 17, 2019 at 9:49 am

    I hope no one is impinging his repetition.

    I will.

    1735099 is mentally unstable and a liar.

    That’s not impinging his character.
    That is describing his character.

  33. egg_

    Elvis could be singing a duet with Edith Piaf on Insiders

    Marr’s drag act?

  34. bespoke. What did you expect from a moniker of “Inmate 1234567” ?

  35. Mater

    I didn’t think so, Nick.
    Just confirming my stance.

  36. Leigh Lowe

    So sue me, Private Probono.

  37. Nick

    David Marr slapping down Mark Riley because he ain’t woke enough. I love it when the left eat each other. Lol

    Turkey slapped I’ll bet

  38. areff

    The Little Sparrow and the Big Cockhead

  39. egg_

    David Marr slapping down Mark Riley because he ain’t woke enough.

    Imagine Gerard and Piers together with Marr-di Gras – head explosion!

  40. Ellie

    I think Tom should be doing the cartoons on Insiders.

  41. areff

    Just moved on the wires:

    British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party have the highest level of support since 2017, according to new opinion polls.

    The December 12 election was called to end three years of disagreement over Brexit that has sapped investors’ faith in the stability of the world’s fifth-largest economy and damaged Britain’s standing since it voted in a 2016 referendum to leave the European Union.

    Johnson, 55, hopes to win a majority to push through the last-minute Brexit deal he struck with the EU last month after the bloc granted a third delay to the divorce that was originally supposed to take place on March 29. Voters in 2016 referendum narrowly voted in favour of leaving the EU.

    Johnson’s Conservatives lead Labour by 10-17 percentage points, four polls published on Saturday show.

    A YouGov poll showed support for the Conservatives stood at 45 per cent, the highest level since 2017, compared with Labour on 28 per cent, unchanged. The pro-European Union Liberal Democrats were on 15 per cent, and the Brexit Party was on 4 per cent unchanged.

    A separate poll for SavantaComRes also said support for Johnson’s Conservatives was the highest since 2017 with his party on 41 per cent with Labour on 33 per cent.

    The Conservatives have a 16-point lead over Labour, according to an opinion poll published by Opinium Research.

    A poll by the Mail on Sunday said Johnson’s party had a 15-point lead over Labour.

    The first December election in Britain since 1923 will be one of the hardest to forecast in years. Brexit has scrambled voters’ traditional loyalties and is giving smaller rivals a chance to challenge the two biggest parties, Johnson’s Conservatives and the left-of-centre Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn.

    Although opinion polls show the Conservatives are well ahead of Labour, analysts caution the overshadowing issue of Brexit, which has divided both major parties and their voters, could confound conventional calculations.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mark Riley on Insiders talking some sense on the abject failure of Global fora to find solutions to “Global warming” – shouted down by Marr* and Nanny Franny.

    What have Catholics got to do with global warming? I had thought that Marr was only ever brought on board at the ABC to rail against the Church and individuals who profess or minister the faith. Maybe he is more versatile than I would credit.

  43. Percy Popinjay

    Some drooling cretin just heard on the ALPBC nooze: “Just listen to the emotion in the fat whinging pommie bastard’s voice, he’s the youngest member of parliament and part of a young generation that are absolutely terrified of this unrelenting climate crisis.”

    We are existing in the stupidest age in human history.

  44. Arky

    Mark Riley …shouted down by Marr*

    Shit happens.

  45. Percy Popinjay

    What have Catholics got to do with global warming?

    That argie imbecile in the Vatican won’t shut up about it.

  46. egg_

    David Marr slapping down Mark Riley because he ain’t woke enough.

    Riley tried to penetrate the Couch Collective’s bubble with facts re trade with China and CAGW, but was shouted down by Marr & Nanny Franny each time; Karvelas tried to give him a bit of support, to her credit, but such is the Leftoid narrative.

  47. Stimpson J. Cat

    From my limited amateur observations of dope…
    1. It has markedly different impacts on individuals (as does alcohol).
    2. Occasional weekend use doesn’t seem to cause damage to most people. If, on the other hand you are having your second bong alone on the couch before lunch on Wednesday …

    Of course this is a blog full of Libertarians and Stoners.
    Of course it is.

    All you Sane People need to know is this:

    Drug use was originally discovered and used as a way to communicate and celebrate with the Gods and Spirits, and to mimic the effects of Mental Illness.
    You all wanted to be like us, and share in our experiences of “something more than sight” and you found ways to replicate our “gifts”,
    albeit temporarily.
    But, most of you don’t have the experience, will or self control to manage such a double edged sword.
    This is the price.
    And we still see the results every day.

    Hilarious, isn’t it?

  48. Ellie

    Turkey slapped I’ll bet

    It’s only 10am, but that’s my laugh of the day. Quick wit, Nick. 👍

  49. egg_

    Shit happens.

    RSL Groundhog’s Day on Catallaxy?

  50. Gab

    LOl I was thinking the same, Egg. Just without the RSL bit.

  51. 8th Dan

    Someone up thread mentioned the lizard wars. Good times. I was dubbed calli Attenborough.

    Fact check: True

    But it wasn’t a compliment. Far from it.

  52. egg_

    “Just listen to the emotion in the fat whinging pommie bastard’s voice, he’s the youngest member of parliament and part of a young generation that are absolutely terrified of this unrelenting climate crisis.”

    Fatties first into Soylent Green?

  53. Eyrie

    Patient Pretends To Be Doctor In Russian Mental Hospital

    Mrs Eyrie tells me that when she was doing her RN training in NZ she spent 6 weeks at a mental hospital farm. It wasn’t unusual for the patients to steal the Docs white coats and wear them. Apparently it was then difficult to tell the Docs from the patients.

  54. cohenite

    In more good news:

    The 2019 reboot/sequel of Charlie’s Angels just opened to a catastrophic $8 million, making it the fifth man-hating, woketard franchise to get wiped out at the box office.

    I reckon a movie with a beefo guy kicking up the arse some of the hideous fembots, transitioning, swamp bureaucrats, media hacks, alarmists would clean up.

  55. Nick

    You’ve a quick mind, Ellie 🙂

  56. Percy Popinjay

    I reckon a movie with a beefo guy kicking up the arse some of the hideous fembots, transitioning, swamp bureaucrats, media hacks, alarmists would clean up.

    Which is why the First Kingsman movie is so great.

  57. egg_

    Elvis could be singing a duet with Edith Piaf on Insiders

    Marr’s drag act?

    Frank Elly as Elvis, Marr as Piaf.

  58. Arky

    A State Department official told the House impeachment inquiry on Friday that he heard President Trump talking with E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland about “investigations” in Ukraine.

    David Holmes, the political counsel at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, testified behind closed doors that he was at a restaurant in Kiev on July 26 when Sondland spoke to Trump over the phone, a day after Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    ..
    We now see the real reason for the Democrats delaying and obstructing Trump administration appointments.
    You can bet your ass the bastards have a dozen or more of these manufactured crises lined up ready to go, and the hold-overs in place to initiate proceedings.
    Trump needs to gut the diplomatic service after his re-election.

  59. bespoke

    My apologies notafan I shouldn’t have questioned you grigs spotting ability’s.

  60. egg_

    swamp bureaucrats

    STEM invertebrates enabling the political class.

  61. lotocoti

    I notice a no ball for the first delivery in the AUS/PAK Test is sitting at 51.00.
    Not wishing to cast nasturtiums, but I have to wonder if Sportsbet will still pay if Pakistan bowls.

  62. Gab

    Fabulous. @realDonaldTrump had the White House exorcised before he moved in.

    And this was the priest who did it, Fr. Mahana. He also gave the President a Rosary and a statue of Our Lady of Fatima to keep in the White House.

    And that, folks, is why Trump is still President.

  63. johanna

    Bloody hell! The failing Miami Herald has just put up a paywall to prevent me from reading Dave Barry classics, which they publish once a week.

    For those who don’t know, Dave Barry is possibly the funniest American columnist of the late C20th and early C21st. He moved from Baltimore to Fladah, and was a keen observer of the intracies of life in Miami and surrounds. One of my favourites is his article on fire ants, which Queenslanders are now experiencing. It is paywalled at the loathsome Miami Circledrain, but fortunately the Jooish World Review reprinted it:

    But the scariest South Florida lawn-dweller is the fire ant, a quarter-inch-long insect that can easily defeat a full-grown human in hand-to-hand combat. That’s what happened to me. I sat on my lawn, put my hands down and YOW a fire ant – let’s call him Arnie – injected me with his Special Recipe fire-ant venom, and then watched, with a merry twinkle in each of his 5,684 eyes, as I leaped up and danced wildly around, brushing uselessly at my hand, which felt as though I had stuck it into a toaster oven set on “pizza.” I’m sure the other ants had a hearty laugh when Arnie got back to the colony and communicated this story by releasing humor pheromones. (“Then this MORON puts his HAND down! Yes! On the LAWN! Ha-ha! Must be from Pennsylvania.”)

    That happened 17 years ago, and my hand just recently finished healing. So I was excited when I read a story in The Miami Herald about a U.S. Department of Agriculture program, right in my neighborhood, to control fire ants by releasing a wondrous little creature called the decapitating phorid fly.

    This fly kills fire ants via a method that, if insects wrote horror novels, would have been dreamed up by the fire-ant Stephen King.

    What happens is the female phorid fly swoops in on a fire ant and, in less than a second, injects an egg into the ant’s midsection. When the egg hatches, the maggot crawls up inside the ant, and – here is the good part – eats the entire contents of the ant’s head. This poses a serious medical problem for the ant, which, after walking around for a couple of weeks with its insides being eaten, has its head actually fall off. At that point, it becomes a contestant on “The Bachelorette.”

    Read it, and laugh (unless you live in Queensland). And, Joos being very picky about what constitutes humour worthy of republishing, this is a huge compliment to Dave.

    I’ve been inadvertently following the Miami Herald as I checked in once a week for the Dave classics. It reminds me of the SMH – there are still one or two actual reporters there doing the hard yards, but the rest of it is puffery and SJW crap. May they go broke asap.

  64. Arky

    8th Dan
    #3213896, posted on November 17, 2019 at 10:13 am

    ..
    wang, are all your children socially awkward?

  65. BrettW

    I presume the NT police officer is getting legal support provided by the NT Govt. Got to be a QC type case.

    Since it appears people are lining up for “compensation” over the death hopefully if the cop has no case to answer or is acquitted he will receive adequate compensation for his loss of career.

    Incidentally since he has been put on bail does anybody know his next court appearance date ? I mean after all the day before they charged him the NT police were pretty much saying it was self defence in that he had been attacked and injured.

    Of course the fact the deceased had waved an axe at police a few days earlier in order to escape would have had an impact on how the police were thinking when they entered the home.

    The locals reaction is to now make him out as poor misunderstood boy proud of his culture and accepted by his community. On the other hand who would want to work in such communities. If the culture is so good they can run their own communities.

    Going to be one of the most significant legal cases in Australia due to the political aspects.

  66. Tom

    David Marr slapping down Mark Riley because he ain’t woke enough. I love it when the left eat each other. Lol

    That’s hilarious, Custard. As a weeknight viewer of the country’s least worst TV news operation (Channel 7), I was shocked to learn that, even though he’s a left-wing lunatic, Mark Riley is actually a conscientious, credible reporter who doesn’t try on the same stunts he can bathe in on Sunday morning’s Greenfilth propaganda hour at Their ABC.

    That’s because Seven News, unlike the national broadcaster, got to number one in the ratings by making the public interest (not the green left’s political interest) its primary concern.

    That doesn’t mean most of Seven’s reporters aren’t green-voting lunatics; just that they know who is buttering their bread — and it ain’t the green left.

    PS: Riley’s appearance on the greenfilth propaganda hour is out of pure self-interest: it’s a rolling job application.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Just listen to the emotion in the fat whinging pommie bastard’s voice, he’s the youngest member of parliament and part of a young generation that are absolutely terrified of this unrelenting climate crisis.”

    Greens Senator Jordan Steele – Jones.

  68. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Louisiana, 3 hours left, get out and Vote for @EddieRispone for Governor. Lower taxes and much more!

    9:22 AM · Nov 17, 2019

  69. Billy

    No imputation credits for numbers.

  70. Roger

    Rolling Stone: Men Who Abstain From Porn Are Dangerous Alt-Righters

    The decline of the West epitomised.

  71. BrettW

    Cohenite,
    That is good news about the Charlie’s Angels reboot. Maybe the sisterhood also not supporting it if the box office that low.

    From what I have been reading about the next Bond movie I am having serious doubts about whether I want to actually pay to watch it. As a kid I read all the books but getting a bit tired of the PC BS.

  72. Percy Popinjay

    Unelected Greenfilth Senator, ZK2A.

    Did he not take the place of that chronic masturbater and drug addict from NZ?

  73. egg_

    They had better things to do – like finding gold sending off shiploads of money to keep the bludging east coast afloat — as we’ve been doing ever since.

    All for independence – but they’d often come cap in hand to the Feds for a grab of tax loot when times were tough for the State Govt. Comrade.

  74. Roger

    Conscription was a bloody poor way to conduct that war.
    And it shows the importance of always maintaining a strong professional armed forces.

    Presently we have qualified riflemen in the Reserves who can’t go full time because they’re not female or indigienous and the army has to fill its quotas.

    Too stupid…

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If the culture is so good they can run their own communities.

    An excellent idea. Withdraw all police, medical and support services. The elders can run those communities according to tribal law, with traditional punishments, and traditional medical treatments for any diseases.

  76. the next Bond movie

    The recipe that worked:
    Kill all the bad guys (huns/nips/norks/russkies/weird beards/lawyers) using lots of big explosions.
    Assisted by drop dead gorgeous, semi-naked women.
    Good soundtrack.

  77. zyconoclast

    Donald Trump Jr. on transgender bathroom debate: ‘I wish everyone would share a bathroom’
    23 seconds

  78. Arky

    The elders can run those communities according to tribal law, with traditional punishments, and traditional medical treatments for any diseases.

    ..
    I suspect that if you actually did that, things would improve out of sight.
    No community flourishes when it is farmed by middle class tossers at tax payer cost.

  79. custard

    I did say on these pages some weeks ago that I felt the left have realised that they have lost/or are close to losing the climate change hoax.
    The other day whilst driving home from work #theirABC had already switched over to #theirBBC world service and the article broadcast basically stated that the so called solution to the climate change hoax was impossible to implement. (Which of course most sensible people understand)
    How on earth this ever made it to the airwaves is a mystery.
    The linkage of the hoax to this weeks bushfires shows just how desperate the filth have become. The squabble on the couch this morning- priceless!

  80. egg_

    Maybe the sisterhood also not supporting it if the box office that low.

    Many positive female vox pops reviews of Isaac’s stage show at the end of this clip.

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu’s link, earlier:

    ‘Lawyer Andrew Boe successfully won $30 million in compensation’

    Yep. Because what this is about, as far as the Yuendumu punters are concerned, is payback – ie, either the copper or one of his rellos is speared, or given a bloody good hiding or both. Whether the subject of the flogging lives or dies is irrelevant.

    For every other agitator in the country, they can smell cash in the water.

  82. Muddy

    From Cohenite’s link above, re the latest Charlie’s Angels film:

    We don’t hate you Hollywood.
    We’re just hating you back.
    You started it.

  83. Linden Watson

    I thought conscripts had to volunteer for service in Vietnam? But I get your drift, a young bloke from my home town was the 6th conscript to be killed over there in 1966, I can still remember his funeral, it was huge for the whole town.

  84. cohenite

    Which is why the First Kingsman movie is so great.

    Correct

    Some movies are unintentionally anti-AGW because they are so pretentious like Atavar or just plain stupid like Noah.

    Some are subtle and sly in their critique of AGW like Interstellar, a great movie or Captain America: The Winter Soldier another great piece of cinema.

    But there is nothing subtle or sly about Kingsman: The Secret Service; this movie presents in Technicolour the awful nature of alarmists; they are elitist, narcissistic and misanthropic. And riddled in hypocrisy.

    The villain is Valentine, played by Samuel Jackson. Valentine is another tech billionaire who despises his fellow man for causing AGW. His solution is to kill off 99.9% of the human population.

    His sales pitch to the rich and famous is classic alarmist agitprop. Valentine tells them that humans are a virus raising the temperature of the living Earth. If the virus isn’t destroyed the planet’s fever will worsen and either the planet will fight back and kill the disease of the disease will kill the planet.

    The idea that humans are a disease or parasite has underpinned the AGW narrative and is espoused by all the leading AGW scientists and particularly AGW’s many rich supporters like Bill Gates.

    In Kingsman Valentine is seen convincing Obama of his vision which is ironic since Obama’s chief scientist, John Holdren, is an avid supporter of forced reduction of humanity. In real life Obama would have taken no convincing.

    Valentine, as the archetypal rich supporter of AGW, has a tenuous hold on real life. He thinks he is living in a movie and can’t stand the sight of blood even though he is prepared to kill billions.

    Valentine is the perfect portrayal of the elitist loon who supports AGW. He has made his vast wealth from his society and now as a matter of vanity will destroy that society. The thought that his lifestyle will cease when the society is destroyed doesn’t enter his thinking. This is cognitive dissonance on a grand scale.

    Valentine implants chips in the chosen ones so they can resist the doomsday device he has perfected.

    In a delicious twist all the elistists, including Obama (and Prince Charles) literally lose their heads when the device backfires….

  85. Leigh Lowe

    Percy Popinjay

    #3213920, posted on November 17, 2019 at 10:34 am

    Unelected Greenfilth Senator, ZK2A.

    Did he not take the place of that chronic masturbater and drug addict from NZ?

    Please be more pacific.
    Could be any one of them.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I suspect that if you actually did that, things would improve out of sight.

    Yeah, Swan Valley Noongar Community was such an improvement, wasn’t it? “Culturally appropriate” housing, their own school….

  87. Please be more pacific.

    That description evaluates to 4,693,000 people.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Mark Riley is actually a conscientious, credible reporter who doesn’t try on the same stunts …

    Apart from the “shit happens” gotcha on Tony Abbott over the death of a serviceman.
    There is that stunt.

  89. Geriatric Mayfly

    Only through reading, I am au fait with your average, garden variety kinkiness. But this is a shade of grey
    which enlightens me yet further.

    A Man in Louisiana’s Been Arrested for Pretending to Be Autistic – so He Could Have His Diaper Changed

  90. Arky

    Yeah, Swan Valley Noongar Community was such an improvement, wasn’t it? “Culturally appropriate” housing, their own school….

    ..
    You know, is there any solution that does not involve these people just fucking off and dying that would satisfy the likes of you?

  91. that chronic masturbater … from NZ

    Aha!
    The teeth finally explained!

  92. egg_

    The other day whilst driving home from work #theirABC had already switched over to #theirBBC world service and the article broadcast basically stated that the so called solution to the climate change hoax was impossible to implement

    Mark Riley’s narrative on Insiders, also.
    The MSM are changing the narrative (drip fed by Sir Humphrey’s?)?
    The pendulum is shifting in line with public opinion – “everyone complains about the weather but does nothing about it”?
    IIRC ruinables* aren’t very profitable for the operators and are draining the public purse, too.

    *Their Holy Grail of CAGW is broken?

  93. notafan

    If remote communities are left to big man rule you have expect a complete reversion to the usual pre contact horror for women and children

    with added alcohol and porn

  94. notafan

    The solution is to defund and close remote communities and encourage people into the 21st century with education and meaningful work

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I thought conscripts had to volunteer for service in Vietnam?’

    Oh.

    My.

    God.

    The odometer just clicked over to zero.

  96. Percy Popinjay

    the so called solution to the climate change hoax was impossible to implement

    Oh, I don’t know, according to them, about seven billion deaths should do it.

  97. bespoke

    The latest Godzilla movie is a SJW wet dream. The lead knowing she’s going to kill millions to save the planet but has second thoughts when turns out to every one is going to die. Sacrifices herself and is vindicated in the end.

  98. Roger

    The solution is to defund and close remote communities and encourage people into the 21st century with education and meaningful work

    A.k.a. assimilation.

    Was working quite well until c. 1972.

    A comparative study of the health , education & employment “outcomes” of those indigenous folk who’ve effectively assimilated into mainstream society and those who haven’t would be enlightening, I’m sure.

  99. Knuckle Dragger

    I thought I was the only one who remembered the ‘shit happens’ escapade, and being bitterly disappointed when Abbott failed to conduct some amateur dentistry on Riley.

  100. notafan

    I assume these extremely remote locations, which iirc were often completely isolated during the wet season are good examples of what life is like without the presence of outsiders

    “Children aren’t attending school, young children are being abused both physically and sexually, there are no employment opportunities, and I can’t look the people of Western Australia in the face and say as Premier I’m going to ignore that,” he said.

    State and Commonwealth strike deal on WA Indigenous community funding, but arguing continues

  101. 1735099

    I thought conscripts had to volunteer for service in Vietnam?

    The old lie.
    That lie was taught in Australian schools for decades.
    And it slithers out from time to time on this site.
    Indoctrination……

  102. Roger

    …the so called solution to the climate change hoax was impossible to implement

    If you say so, but Annastacia Palaszczuk didn’t get the memo.

    If her plans* succeed the national grid will be unsustainable in < 10 years.

    * "Incentivised" by the tax payer, naturally.

  103. mh

    ‘I thought conscripts had to volunteer for service in Vietnam?’

    😀

  104. Arky

    Swan Valley Noongar Community was such an improvement, wasn’t it?

    ..
    So what you are referencing Zulu, is yet another middle class tosser initiated cluster fuck:
    ..

    In 1977 several groups decided to make a stand at the Lockridge Campsite and in 1981 the people incorporated themselves as Fringedwellers of the Swan Valley Inc. The Fringedwellers began a series of protests asking the government to assist them with housing. During the 1980s the improvised huts and tents were replaced with government-supplied mining cabins.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Only a sprinkling of rain over here in Vaucluse harbourside, Bern. Temp is 20 degrees and humidity 71%, slightly overcast with occasional sun glimpses.

    Re the great Aussie sport of property, as in discussion last nite, I have just been perusing this morning the classic Rich List (property special) Magazine put out with this weekend’s hard copy Oz. A great read for us all to see the genuinely super-rich in trophy house mode. Collette Dinnigan, a far more prolific house flipper than we ever were, features on the cover in a dashing taupe raincoat and shiny brown leather boots.

    The Mag does a listing of 100 top sales by price and shows which suburbs the top sales were achieved in right across Australia regardless of the State boundaries. Top billing in the numbers 1-7 at $100 million down to $60 million, has three in Vaucluse very near us and four over the next ridge in Point Piper. Of the first 25 by price 8 are in Vaucluse and eleven in Point Piper. Victoria’s Toorak doesn’t get a look in until numbers 24 and 25, down to $38 million by then. The only other one of the 25 that is in Victoria is the former Government House in Malvern at number ten, $52.5 million in 2018 (sales are for this year and last). Purchasers are a range of old money, new mostly tech money, overseas buyers, mainly Chinese, and ex-pats returning, like one of our neighbours. Our property, which is on large land shared with two others abuts five others, so no-one will be able to dox my inoffensive little old lady neighbour for my use of the term ‘puts out’ about her which reprobates here have taken quite the wrong way.

    As you can see we are just very small beer around here, especially having downsized for retirement. Heartening thus to see at least we’re on trend: an article in the Mag is headed ‘On the Rise: is the penthouse apartment the modern mansion?’

    Well, no, not for us anyway. Our mansion days are over. They need a lot of upkeep. But we are renovating our sizeable whole-floor Art Deco penthouse with views set here in a wilded garden amongst the show places in this mag, so we’re working on it. Collette’s just sold up in Watsons Bay and is now renovating in Italy, I say thoughtfully to Hairy.

    I’d need to be on some heavy marching powder to take that on though. 😀

  106. The yanks get the dazzling Barbarella as their traitorous slime.
    What do we get ? Inmate number 7623469.

  107. notafan

    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples continue to experience a disproportionate burden of disease. The age-standardised rate of HIV diagnoses increased by 41% in the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population between 2013 and 2016, compared with a 12% decline in non-Indigenous people, and in 2017 the rates were 1.6 times that of the non-Indigenous population. In the same period, the rate of hepatitis C diagnoses increased by 15%, while diagnoses in the non-Indigenous population decreased by 12%. In 2017, rates of chlamydia, gonorrhoea and infectious syphilis were 3, 7 and 7 times greater than the non–Indigenous population, with even more substantial differences in remote and very remote areas. Since 2011, there has also been a resurgence of infectious syphilis in regional and remote communities in central and Northern Australia, including cases of congenital syphilis, rates of which are dramatically higher in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander populations.

    Aboriginal Surveillance Report on HIV, viral hepatitis and STIs 2018

  108. zyconoclast

    Mary Ann Bugg, the Aboriginal bushranger erased from Australian folklore

    Often dressed in men’s clothes, she was an expert horse rider and skilled bush navigator who roamed across NSW robbing travellers, stations, pubs and stores while eluding police.

    Most history books mention her as the partner of the infamous Captain Thunderbolt, the “gentleman bushranger” famed for escaping from jail on Cockatoo Island — but Mary Ann has every claim to being just as iconic.

    Mary Ann was a proud Worimi woman, born of an Indigenous mother and convict father near Gloucester on the mid-north coast of NSW.

    In 1860 she met Thunderbolt, whose real name was Fred Ward. Before his capture in 1870, she acted as his scout, informer, lover and confidante and bore him three children.

    She taught the illiterate Thunderbolt to read. She helped provide food and shelter, spread false information to help him stay ahead of the authorities and nursed him back to health after he was shot.

    Thunderbolt remains a legend, a popular folk hero and major tourist drawcard in New South Wales, where a highway is named in his honour.

    Mary Ann Bugg is less well known and some even say she’s been erased from the Thunderbolt legend.

    And for one of her biographers, that’s part of a bigger problem, where many Aboriginal people responsible for the survival of Australian folk heroes have been airbrushed from the history books.

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ..
    You know, is there any solution that does not involve these people just fucking off and dying that would satisfy the likes of you?

    Yes, there is, Archibald. It’s called “assimilation.” Leaving the Stone Age behind, and joining the rest of Australia in the Space Age. Working quite well, until 1972.

  110. Arky

    Yes, there is, Archibald. It’s called “assimilation.” Leaving the Stone Age behind, and joining the rest of Australia in the Space Age. Working quite well, until 1972.

    ..
    Assimilation with an atheist welfare state.
    Not working out too good in urban areas is it?

  111. egg_

    For the narrative to be even contemplating nukes, you know that ruinables/The Grid are stuffed.
    It would probably take someone like Gupta to push it.

  112. Ellie

    Collette Dinnigan, a far more prolific house flipper than we ever were …

    I went to the same school as her in NZ. She’s older than me, but we have a mutual friend. She’s done well for herself and looks pretty good. It’s the Kiwi air and the rubbing of lanolin on the skin on a regular basis.

  113. bespoke

    rubbing of lanolin on the skin on a regular basis.

    GrigRae?

  114. jo

    Eyrie
    #3213898, posted on November 17, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Patient Pretends To Be Doctor In Russian Mental Hospital

    Mrs Eyrie tells me that when she was doing her RN training in NZ she spent 6 weeks at a mental hospital farm. It wasn’t unusual for the patients to steal the Docs white coats and wear them. Apparently it was then difficult to tell the Docs from the patients.

    When I was 18 I had a friend in a psychiatric facility. Went to see him, he told me the staff were crazier than the patients. I said,”see there is nothing wrong, just a bit stressed”. There was, but he was out of there a lot sooner.

  115. notafan

    Women and children would have more change of escaping the circle of sexual violence in an urban setting.

  116. vr

    What is going on with George Conway 3rd?

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When I was 18 I had a friend in a psychiatric facility.

    Had a work colleague, way back when, who had spent time in a similar facility. Their retort was “I’ve got a piece of paper that say’s I’m sane, what about you?”

  118. egg_

    A nurse in-law reckoned all psych nurses were bonkers.

  119. Knuckle Dragger

    Michael Dulvaney on Their ABC strikes a blow for indig chickery in Zyco’s link.

    ‘Mary Ann was a proud Worimi woman’

    The boilerplate ‘proud’. How do we know this? Who said she was proud? Is it taken for granted? Has there ever been an ‘ashamed’ Worimi or any other woman?

    ‘Aboriginal people responsible for the survival of Australian folk heroes’

    Being Aboriginal has nothing to do with it. And I know we have a tradition of undeservingly lionising career criminals, but to extend this field of endeavour to the indig is frankly doing them a disservice.

    In fact, there’s an argument to be made that Whatsisname who wrote this piece of shit is unfairly pointing out criminality in the colonial indig. Patriarchal whitey bastard.

  120. Roger

    Assimilation with an atheist welfare state.

    No, assimilation into a functioning culture in which – for all its faults – children don’t routinely have venereal disease.

  121. Steve trickler

    You’d be stoked to come across this on your travels through the station.



  122. Ellie

    One of my favourite movies, Bespoke. Hannibal (Anthony Hopkins) had great tastes.

    Bites replace kisses.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota, just earlier;

    ‘Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples continue to experience a disproportionate burden of disease. The age-standardised rate of HIV diagnoses increased by 41% in the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population between 2013 and 2016, compared with a 12% decline in non-Indigenous people, and in 2017 the rates were 1.6 times that of the non-Indigenous population. In the same period, the rate of hepatitis C diagnoses increased by 15%, while diagnoses in the non-Indigenous population decreased by 12%. In 2017, rates of chlamydia, gonorrhoea and infectious syphilis were 3, 7 and 7 times greater than the non–Indigenous population, with even more substantial differences in remote and very remote areas. Since 2011, there has also been a resurgence of infectious syphilis in regional and remote communities in central and Northern Australia, including cases of congenital syphilis, rates of which are dramatically higher in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander populations.’

    All of this is true. None of it can be denied.

    And yet this is the result of $33 billion dollars each year, and every year thrown at them.

    Seriously, the question has to be asked – what would happen if the indig in this country weren’t afforded the free stuff available, and had to do the same as everybody else?

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  125. notafan

    Seriously, the question has to be asked – what would happen if the indig in this country weren’t afforded the free stuff available, and had to do the same as everybody else?

    I would hope rapid assimilation

    The importance of maintaining a traditional lifestyle is a great lie

    no-one would live remotely if it were genuinely 100% traditional

    It depends on just about ‘someone else must pay for’ everything

  126. Snoopy

    I went to a wedding yesterday. At the dinner afterwards the seat on my left was left unoccupied. Heard the absent man “had a bit of a turn and was in hospital”. His wife was in the next seat.

    Me: Why is your husband in hospital?

    His wife: He had a liver and kidney transplant four years ago and had a regular blood test this morning. On the way home the doctor rang and said you’d better turn around. Now.

    Me: Why did he need the transplants (hoping the reason wasn’t alcohol).

    His wife: Needle stick injury. Hep C. He was a police officer.

    Me: Thinking. Oh, fuck.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Calli, good to see you are enjoying Buenos Ares and have already sorted the Boca. Aren’t the fake people figures around that area a hoot, hanging out of windows and over balconies to liven things up a bit?

    Don’t forget to do a City Tour to get a real feel of the place apart from the Parisian main drags. Travel is so good for creating excitement in a person just by being there, not even needing to do much but open your eyes and take it all in. Do feed back your impressions for us to share too.

  128. Mater

    His wife: Needle stick injury. Hep C. He was a police officer.

    Me: Thinking. Oh, fuck.

    Snoopy, I had a friend who got it from a head clash playing football.
    A life changing event.

  129. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is the Doctor in? Dr BG may be interested in these pics at BBC World News bbc.co.uk

    In pictures: Havana celebrates 500 years of foundation

  130. Top Ender

    Incidentally since he has been put on bail does anybody know his next court appearance date?

    19 December in Darwin.

  131. rubbing of lanolin on the skin

    lanaolin – NZ aphrodisiac

  132. P

    Geriatric Mayfly #3213999, posted on November 17, 2019 at 11:58 am

    Is the Doctor in? Dr BG may be interested in these pics at BBC World News bbc.co.uk
    In pictures: Havana celebrates 500 years of foundation

    Here they are DrBeauGan. Thanks to GM:
    In pictures: Havana celebrates 500 years of foundation

  133. Ellie

    lanaolin – NZ aphrodisiac

    Oh yes. Include an oyster and you have NZs classic porn of surf and turf.

  134. Johno

    Well, the angry private didn’t hang around long.

  135. DrBeauGan

    Is the Doctor in? Dr BG may be interested in these pics at BBC World News bbc.co.uk
    In pictures: Havana celebrates 500 years of foundation

    Here they are DrBeauGan. Thanks to GM:
    In pictures: Havana celebrates 500 years of foundation

    Thanks, P. Yes, Havana is beautiful in a run down way. A living time capsule. The only new buildings I saw were things like police stations. Not quite up to the standard of the past.

    Cuba has suffered from corrupt bastards in power almost since independence, but at least the capitalist bastards let people build things.

  136. Johno

    I have been thinking about his nick names. We need a new one . I am leaning toward mono-male?.

  137. DrBeauGan

    That should have been “crony capitalist bastards.”

  138. Johno

    Dr BG, Inbuilt corruption and Rule of Big Men seem to have followed Spanish colonisation every where. Are there any ex spanish colonies that are thriving?

  139. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Well, the angry private didn’t hang around long.

    Johno, if you don’t mind me asking, what form did your volunteering for the “fun factory” take? I’ve heard several accounts, including “signed the declaration”/ “interviewed by the platoon commander on “rookies” and told “If you don’t want to go to Vietnam, say so now, and it won’t go any further”/Finishing the School of Infantry and told “These are the battalions going to Viet Nam, if you don’t want to go to Vietnam, don’t put your name down for these battalions.”

  140. struth

    The old lie.
    That lie was taught in Australian schools for decades.
    And it slithers out from time to time on this site.
    Indoctrination……

    Good Lord…how can this be?
    Australian schools telling lies and indoctrinating?

    I refuse to believe such ridiculous conspiracy theories.

  141. old bloke

    JC
    #3213803, posted on November 17, 2019 at 7:56 am

    I find it laughable these arseholes won’t allow their adjustments to be scrutinized. It’s actually egregious.

    All the government needs to do is send in the auditors.

    One former Prime Minister did send in the auditors, he was sacked the next day and his successor’s first action was to shut down the audit.

  142. Old School Conservative

    incoherent rambler
    #3213925, posted on November 17, 2019 at 10:38 am
    the next Bond movie

    The recipe that worked:

    Must include a scene where the bad guy tells Bond all of his plans to eradicate the world, just before Bond escapes and ruins said plans.

  143. Roger

    Are there any ex spanish colonies that are thriving?

    Parts of The Louisiana Territory aren’t doing too badly.

  144. P

    DrBeauGan,

    Here is a vid on youtube you may find interesting. I did.

    Also some pics here from June this year. Those cars!

  145. Must include a scene where the bad guy tells Bond all of his plans

    And names like Pussy Galore, Plenty O’Toole, Xenia Onatopp, or Holly Goodhead.

  146. Overburdened

    ZK2A

    Remarkably, suitably qualified people constantly receive emails of job lists in RandR communities that want professionals to sign up to be dropped out into the communities only to be evacuated out due to the levels of violence particularly towards female workers, aggravated burglary and similar occupational hazards; put up with abuse and disrespect in the meantime and have a low expectation of any sort of engagement with treatment.

    It’s natural in these places that the professionals are then blamed for any adverse outcomes.

    To be able to take such a position, an advanced skill set is mandatory but not reflected in the salaries on offer for the conditions.

    I will repeat my position based on experiences that I will not revisit.

    All levels of government should roll up the show and fuck off out of these benighted hell holes and leave the locals to their own devices.

    The strong will survive by moving to major centres, which will add to the social problems of wherever they land.

    An alternative idea is to ship all the greenies, trannies, SJWs and any other sort of progressive fuckwit out to these communities and watch the magic happen.

  147. mh

    memoryvault,

    Storms popping up to your west. Repeat of yesterday I suspect.

  148. lotocoti

    watch the magic happen.

    PPV or FTA?

  149. Snoopy

    Ellie
    #3214008, posted on November 17, 2019 at 12:14 pm
    lanaolin – NZ aphrodisiac

    Oh yes. Include an oyster and you have NZs classic porn of surf and turf.

    Good. Very good.

  150. 1735099

    Seriously, the question has to be asked – what would happen if the indig in this country weren’t afforded the free stuff available, and had to do the same as everybody else?

    Perhaps the history of the colonisation of Tasmania is worth remembering.
    Genocide was quite effective in that instance.

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Calli, there is a review of a place in Buenos Ares called Palacio Barolo in the weekend Oz travel section, sent in by reader Anne O’Sullivan for the ‘follow the reader’ column. This place was built early 20th century for Dante’s ashes, which never arrived. It attempts to recreate aspects of ‘The Divine Comedy’ in architecture and ambiance and at the top offers 360 BA views. This woman recommends it. I had never heard of it but if you want something different it might be worth checking it out. You can tour the place, followed by a tango performance.

  152. Johno

    Zulu, I was Regular Army. I was posted to 5RAR. One day ALL Nashos were told to report to the mess hall, the Battalion Commander was ordered off base and a Colonel addressed the Nashos. They were given a piece of paper and asked to indicate whether they wished to go to SVN or not. They were told that they would be given an escort of two MPs, to collect their gear from barracks, they would then be posted to another unit and no one there would know their history.
    I was medevaced home before 5RAR completed their tour. As soon as I got out of hospital and was passed medically fit I applied for SVN. I was posted to the Reo wing at Ingleburn. All the nashos there were paraded and given a one on one interview with the OC . If they indicated they did not want to go to SVN, they were posted elsewhere.

    That was my experience and numbers can bullshit and twist and turn and flip and flop as much as he wants but he won’t change history.

  153. notafan

    Number of Aboriginal Tasmanians rising
    The Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre this week called for a forensic audit of the number of people who claimed Aboriginality in the latest census.

    In the 2016 census, 23,000 Tasmanians identified as Aboriginal or Islander. At the previous census the figure was 19,000.

    not exactly

    why is it that the finger pointers never seem to think that their own ancestors are also responsible for any ‘genocide’?

  154. areff

    This Week in Pictures has some beauts. This one is a beaut

  155. notafan

    Oh I forgot to add

    So perhaps it isn’t

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, I was Regular Army.

    Thanks, Johno.

  157. Johno

    I have posted this information before and I am heartily sick and bloody tired of the subject. This bloody loon is fixated on one subject from 50 years ago. 50 years, what else has happened in its miserable life I am sick of the fool.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If you go, please report back on the seven deadly sins, and also about Paradise, which is accessed by a narrow set of spiral stairs. Who knew?

    Watch out too for all the Masonic symbolism as both backers of this venture were Masons.

    A real life Dan Brown adventure awaits. Wish I was there, far more exciting that Vaucluse real estate. 🙂

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    Johno.

    Yep. Yet another analogy I’ll use is this:

    Liability Bob stood on the first tee, deliberately smacked it out of bounds four times in a row, spent the rest of the afternoon in the clubhouse and has:
    a. Bragged about playing 18 holes for the next 50 years, combined with;
    b. Using his golfing experience as a projection* mechanism on everybody else.

    *Deliberate.

  160. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG, Inbuilt corruption and Rule of Big Men seem to have followed Spanish colonisation every where. Are there any ex spanish colonies that are thriving?

    Basically, johno, the only successes are the former British colonies. Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia and North America did pretty well for a time.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    areff,

    I love that cat.

  162. notafan

    Numbers doesn’t care about the extremely high levels of venereal and other diseases in remote and very remote communities because removing children from places where they have a high risk of being abused every which way is like. genocide. man.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Johno

    #3214009, posted on November 17, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    Well, the angry private didn’t hang around long.

    Well, I wooden stay hear either, what with all the imputation of his character going on.
    You lot come hear daily, flaunting the rules of the blog and pedalling alt-rite propergander.
    I racked my brain to try to think of a moor contiguous bunch of maroons than youse.
    Butt, anyways, I am shore he is knot phased buy it awl.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Numbers truly presents Groundhog Day from his very first comment, and so it goes. Nam, Nam, Nam. I always scroll. It provides a very virtuous feeling, like the early morning trip to the loo.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    Tasmanians.

    Worst genociders ever.

  166. Ellie

    We all represent Groundhog Day, Lizzie.

  167. notafan

    Basically the former British colonies that have done well consists of, in what was usually an overwhelming majority, emigrants from the the United Kingdom and Ireland (Hong Kong and Singapore being small exceptions)

    Former Spanish colonies consists mainly of indigenous’ peoples

    and don’t let’s talk about failed British colonies in places like Africa, Asia and the West Indies

    can’t disturb the narrative

  168. Ellie

    It’s what we do in between – making our fantasies reality – that really matter.

  169. DrBeauGan

    don’t let’s talk about failed British colonies in places like Africa, Asia and the West Indies

    can’t disturb the narrative

    The reason former British colonies in Africa are a mess is because they were given back to ignorant savages because they cost too much to run.

  170. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Habit keeps the wheels of our lives turning, so the psychologists say, Ellie. Although some habits are better than others. My Sainted Mother mother swore by what she called ‘regularity’. Swallowed weekly bottles of Agarol to assist it.

    Fortunately she rarely bothered about how we kids were doing in that department. Dodged a bullet there, we did. The outside pan dunny just before collection day didn’t always invite regular performances though. You learned to hang on for a while. 🙂

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The reason former British colonies in Africa are a mess is because they were given back to ignorant savages because they cost too much to run.

    Rhodesia, anyone?

  172. Old School Conservative

    Re numbers.
    A review of his book in WA Veteran touches on a very personal tragedy he and his wife suffered. Numbers blames the tragedy on Agent Orange that he was exposed to in Vietnam. I’m sure he was permanently scarred by the terrible moment. Blaming the army, conscription, the Americans, Vietnam, anzacery etc are just part of his grieving process.

    Having read that, I have moved on from anger and exasperation caused by numbers’ pedantry and lies and now understand him better.

    I will now simply scroll on by. I tried it for one day (remember when he tried to hijack the Remembrance Day postings and PFKAMV said give it a break for the day?) and it was refreshing.

  173. Woolfe

    The former French colonies did a little better as the French trained up a local civil service and the poms did not. They are all shitholes now

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Areff, I love that cat too. Is it Elsie, or just a look-alike?

  175. notafan

    And what about India and Pakistan and Bangladesh and Afghanistan etc

    you have not negated by point regarding the lack of large scale/ dominating British (or Spanish for that matter) immigration into any of the failing former colonies

    the full UK list

  176. struth

    ou scum , sniffy.

    Genocide is an intentional act.
    Where was the intention?

  177. areff

    KD: It’s the spitting image of Elsie, Scourge of Mice, who is mostly asleep next to my laptop. Except for her tail, which comes to life every minute or so and flops across the keyboard. Lift tail, type a bit, move tail again. That Groundhog Day in this part of the world.

  178. 1735099

    That was my experience and numbers can bullshit and twist and turn and flip and flop as much as he wants but he won’t change history.

    Your experience is not universal.
    And your experience is not history.
    Every national serviceman who went to Vietnam was not a volunteer.
    A few were, and I’m currently researching that quantum.
    So far, I’ve been able to establish that proportion for my own platoon, and it is 15%.
    That’s a long way from “every”.
    I’m working my way through the nominal roll comparing birthdates balloted with status recorded as ‘National Service’. It’s pretty laborious, as I have to check 15381 names (the number of Nashos who went to Vietnam).
    Any soldier not balloted in, but recorded as NS can reasonably assumed to be a volunteer. That task, when completed, will give a pretty accurate percentage. It has not been done before, or if it has, nothing has been published in the relevant literature.
    I’ll post the results.

    I could use my experience, and claim that because I was not a volunteer, and my unit did not use the processes you described, that no national serviceman was a volunteer.
    That would not be “history” just as your experience is not “history”.

  179. areff

    Lizzie, it’s the spitting image of Elsie, as noted above.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The former French colonies did a little better as the French trained up a local civil service and the poms did not.

    Wasn’t there the odd spot of bother in the former French colonies of Tonkin, Annam and Cochin – China?

  181. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Making fantasies reality. That sounds like the Masonics who built that Dante museum in Buenos Ares. Wonder if I could persuade Hairy to do a quick fly in to BA to check it out.

    Football might be a persuasive start to the discussion. And the steaks.

    It’s not too hard to do no-carb in Argentina and mandatory in Uruguay.

  182. Dave in Marybrook

    This is hilarious. “I’m sorry sir, what I actually said was to ask you to return your seat to the up-right position…”
    No doubt the newly wed Mr. and Mr. Joyce will scramble and scrape to Mr.am to prove Qaintarse is inclusive and woke and Recognise and some Qantas pilots are womenses don’t you know?

  183. Top Ender

    The Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre this week called for a forensic audit of the number of people who claimed Aboriginality

    Apparently they are annoyed by increasing numbers of people claiming free stuff. It means less for those who got in first.

    Funny, I grew up in Tassie and can’t remember anyone saying they were aboriginal. Nowadays if you go down there the number of signs proclaiming that Mt Wellington is now called “kunanyi” (without the upper case K) are numerous in number.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ludicrous new rule could see thousands of firefighters BANNED from battling deadly bushfires

    QLD volunteers are required to lodge a Blue Card application before Dec. 1
    The new rule could see 15,000 volunteer firefighters banned from fighting fires
    It has raised concerns there will not be enough volunteers to fight deadly blazes

    Daily Mail. Queensland volunteer firies have to pass a “working with children” check. F.M.S.

  185. Top Ender

    With a bit of luck the Qantas hostie will be off to her lawyer tomorrow morning, to arrange a defamation case.

  186. struth

    I’ll post the results.

    Can’t wait.
    There goes any sleep I’m going to get tonight.

  187. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    With a bit of luck the Qantas hostie will be off to her lawyer tomorrow morning, to arrange a defamation case.

    I hope she soaks certain parties for millions.

    The Veronicas claim Qantas flight attendant at the centre of the will.i.am ‘racism’ storm is the same one who had them dragged off a plane in row over luggage

    will.i.am claimed on Twitter that he was the victim of racially-motivated abuse
    Complained that police were waiting for him when he got off Qantas flight
    He likened his treatment to a ‘police state’ but didn’t want flight attendant fired
    The Veronicas claim the same flight attendant had them hauled off a plane
    The airline rejected any racial motive and called it a misunderstanding

  188. bespoke

    Reality if far more interesting and challenging then fantasies.

  189. mh

    The one good thing about the New York Times was that they had excellent live election result coverage that wasn’t behind a paywall. Not any more.

    Looks like the Republican challenger Eddie Rispone is currently ahead.

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course they were volunteers, Old Yeller. Especially you.

    The half century of nonsense afterwards is simply an attempt to assuage your own self-loathing because you didn’t adhere to your ‘principles’, as selfish as they may have been. And still are.

  191. Snoopy

    Woolfe
    #3214063, posted on November 17, 2019 at 1:35 pm
    The former French colonies did a little better as the French trained up a local civil service and the poms did not.

    I remember reading an assessment that Australia’s crowning achievement in PNG was that it bequeathed an expensive First World public service for a Third World nation.

  192. Shy Ted

    Overburdened #3214029, posted on November 17, 2019 at 12:57 pm
    All levels of government should roll up the show and fuck off out of these benighted hell holes and leave the locals to their own devices. The strong will survive by moving to major centres, which will add to the social problems of wherever they land.

    Well said, Overburdened. The voice of experience. Worth a try moving everyone in any particular community to Ultimo though.

  193. Knuckle Dragger

    Perfesser Sinc, sir.

    Next banner.

    The cat*. Please. Thank you.

    *I frigging hate cats, but this one’s a cracker.

  194. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Muddy.
    If you’re around, latest the weather report:
    “By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes”.
    It looks even bigger and angrier than yesterday’s – definitely noisier.
    I knew I should have finished that ark.

  195. Johno

    Listen to me you crazed loon. I have never said that all nashos who served in SVN volunteered to go there. I said that all the nashos I knew did.

    You are confusing volunteering for National service with volunteering to go to SVN. A retarded imbecile could see the difference. You refuse to because you are a loon. Give it a rest for a day .FFS

    Go study your graphs,twist the figures, make assumptions and guess what ?you have been right all along.

    Dumb bastard.

  196. Roger

    QLD volunteers are required to lodge a Blue Card application before Dec. 1
    The new rule could see 15,000 volunteer firefighters banned from fighting fires

    Those applications take at least four weeks to process.

  197. Snoopy

    Ludicrous new rule could see thousands of firefighters BANNED from battling deadly bushfires

    QLD volunteers are required to lodge a Blue Card application before Dec. 1
    The new rule could see 15,000 volunteer firefighters banned from fighting fires
    It has raised concerns there will not be enough volunteers to fight deadly blazes

    Want to protect children? Require every member of the ALP to have a Blue Card.

  198. P

    Saw this cat on the Open thread of theconservativetreehouse this morning.
    It reminded me of a gravatar on Catallaxyfiles.

  199. Dave in Marybrook

    Poor hostie- clashing with The Veronicas posse means that she’s homophobic, too. Better be careful ticking off any [email protected] praying in the aisles, dear- three strikes and you’re out.
    Mind you, she may just have R.B.F., which is par for the course in first class service industries.

  200. mh

    Latest on Edwards (D) vs Rispone (R) with 56% reporting is …

    50.0% – 50.0 %

  201. Muddy

    Thanks, Peter.
    I’m home and can hear rumbles, so it’s a matter of waiting to see if it comes through here or passes around. I escaped unscathed yesterday, which was great (some trees down in the neighbourhood, but they all missed me), so fingers are crossed again. Good luck to you and yours. Thanks for the warning.

  202. 1735099

    Dumb bastard

    The Vietnam Veterans Nominal Roll lists only National Serviceman who went to Vietnam.
    That’s why it’s called the Vietnam Veterans Nominal Roll and not the National Serviceman’s Nominal Roll.
    Dumb bastard.

  203. mh

    Peter and Muddy, take note of my heads up at 1.00pm (12.00 our time)

  204. “working with children”

    required so they can work with QLD MPs

    and

    can discuss Bond girls rather than nachos.

  205. Muddy

    mh.
    Thanks. I did read your heads-up when I came in. Appreciated.

  206. ZK2A:

    The man, in his mid-30s, racked up almost 50 incidents while in PNG, and was arrested for throwing boiling water on a security guard.

    So this prick, haha, is going to be let loose in a ward staffed by nurses who never signed up for the sort of treatment they will undoubtedly receive?

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You are confusing volunteering for National service with volunteering to go to SVN

    You’ve exposed Number’s Ho’s cunning plan…

  208. Steve trickler

    Street talk with Fleccas.

    Gee whiz.



  209. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    A belated thanks, MH. I wasn’t online back then.
    More intense than yesterday, but shorter duration.
    Plenty of hail. but not big enough to do damage.

    Note to self:
    Must finish erecting carport purchased in 2015.

  210. Mitch M.

    All levels of government should roll up the show and fuck off out of these benighted hell holes and leave the locals to their own devices.

    The strong will survive by moving to major centres, which will add to the social problems of wherever they land.

    An alternative idea is to ship all the greenies, trannies, SJWs and any other sort of progressive fuckwit out to these communities and watch the magic happen.

    A friend worked in a major regional hospital. When she was first there she told me she thought the aborigines were great. One year later she loathed them because she was fed up with all the women rolling into casualty beaten up because they were sent to town to get booze and drugs and if they didn’t achieve that goal they were bashed.

    I agree, I think we have to say to these communities that since you don’t like us and constantly accuse of us of being racist we’ll leave you to your own devices.

    But … Overburdened, no government has the guts to do what you suggest. I’m sorry it just won’t happen.

  211. Top Ender

    Dunno about you lot, but on Wednesdays from 3pm to 6pm I am a black female amputee midget:

    Anyone should be allowed to ‘identify’ as black regardless of the colour of their skin or background, according to Left-wing university leaders.

    The Universities and Colleges Union has set out its stance in a report on the ongoing row about whether men should be able to self-identify as women and be treated as female regardless of their anatomy.

    The UCU’s ‘position statement’ did not just stand by its support for self-identification of gender, but also insisted people can choose their own race, saying: ‘Our rules commit us to ending all forms of discrimination, bigotry and stereotyping. UCU has a long history of enabling members to self-identify whether that is being black, disabled, LGBT+ or women.’

    Link

  212. jo

    Qantas pilots are womenses don’t you know?

    Have to be chicks with dicks.

  213. Johno

    The Vietnam Veterans Nominal Roll lists only National Serviceman who went to Vietnam.
    That’s why it’s called the Vietnam Veterans Nominal Roll and not the National Serviceman’s Nominal Roll.
    Dumb bastard

    What does that mean? Are you trying to say something Lad? Come on spit it out.

  214. Shy Ted

    Did anybody else see Gerard Henderson’ deliberate John Laws mistake in MediaWatchDog? He said, “Geraldine Doogue is one of Australia’s best interviewers”. Now, as an aficionado of her weekend RN show which I believe is called “Coffee and condescension with several lefties who wants a free plug for their books on topics no normal person gives a toss about and who are totally removed from the real world but, hey, they’re lefties so let’s chuck some ABC cash at them,” (long title, I know, but pretty sure that’s what it’s called. Anyway, Gerard goes on to prove what a truly awful interviewer she is in the usual ABC fashion of never questioning or interrupting someone who’s talking rot.
    I’m not sure there’s a natural replacement for Gerard as and when old age catches up with him and he’s not around to correct any of these fools.

  215. P

    mh #3214094, posted on November 17, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    Latest on Edwards (D) vs Rispone (R) with 56% reporting is …
    50.0% – 50.0 %

    Thanks.
    Auto updating here

  216. Shy Ted

    I’d love to have a chat with any woman who’s ever been on a date with Nambers. I might open with, “so, what did you talk about on the date?”

  217. Johno

    No back pedalling,or subject changing. You are confusing volunteering for national service with volunteering to go to SVN. Two complete and utterly different things. Just once in your stupid ranting life admit you are wrong.

  218. Snoopy

    Anyone should be allowed to ‘identify’ as black regardless of the colour of their skin or background, according to Left-wing university leaders.

    Jimmy Rabbitte was almost 30 years ahead of the zeitgeist.

  219. Overburdened

    In breaking news, the Arctic Blast (TM) caused by Dangerous Man Made Climate Change (PP) has brought an early Smolletting Season to North America.

  220. Tom

    Thanks, P at 2.37pm. Handy shortcut.

  221. feelthebern

    Alas, my college football bet lost.
    12 out of 13 does not pay.
    Somehow huge outsiders Syracuse beat Duke.
    Arrghh !

  222. Johno

    Shy Ted, What do you reckon, that when Sniffy meets a new person, how long it would take before he told them he was in SVN? I am going for 1 minute.

  223. feelthebern

    Come on spit it out.

    Numbers can’t, he’s too busy imputing.

  224. feelthebern

    At least if you got stuck on a long haul flight next to monty, you could talk sport.
    If you got stuck next to numbers, you’d rather jump do your death.

  225. Eyrie

    “I remember reading an assessment that Australia’s crowning achievement in PNG was that it bequeathed an expensive First World public service for a Third World nation.”

    Bequeathing a country an Australian style Public Service should be regarded as an act of war.

  226. JC:

    I find it laughable these arseholes won’t allow their adjustments to be scrutinized. It’s actually egregious.
    All the government needs to do is send in the auditors.

    JC, the government is involved in the scam – I’d like to know how much the scammers have donated politically to both sides.

  227. mh

    With 93 % reported it’s 50.3 49.7 to the Dem.

    How freakin’ annoying.

    Still, not over yet.

  228. Zatara

    “Excuse me, what is that number you have tattooed on your forehead?”

    “Bait”

  229. Knuckle Dragger

    Look.

    I know there’s another evisceration going on, but to matters of more pressing import:

    Why is Nathan Lyon still batting at 11, and specifically below Hazlewood? It doesn’t compute. Lyon can actually hold the stick, and he’s probably the most effective nightwatchman in world cricket.

    Hoff, on the other hand is approaching McGrath in the annals of global bunnies.

  230. Knuckle Dragger

    mh,

    Get back to me when it’s 93.1%.

  231. mh

    At least if you got stuck on a long haul flight next to monty, you could talk sport.
    If you got stuck next to numbers, you’d rather jump do your death.

    ftb, Monty would be half sitting in your seat as well.

    With Numbers you just put your earphones on.

  232. egg_

    The Veronicas claim the same flight attendant had them hauled off a plane

    What did the brats get up to – Vipers on a Plane?

  233. Fisky

    You can only marvel at the spectacular lack of judgment shown by the China doves in the Labor Party, specifically Dan Andrews signing onto the OBOR, Richard Marles calling for more joint military exercises with the PLA, and Kristina Keneally lecturing everyone on the need to pipe down about the PRC, etc, etc.

    Just appalling judgment all round. Embarrassing. That’s what happens when you put a bunch of useless party hacks who have never held down a real job in charge of policy.

    https://twitter.com/austinramzy/status/1195688077731061760

    Austin Ramzy
    @austinramzy
    More than 400 pages of internal Chinese documents detail the origins and growth of the indoctrination program in Xinjiang, where a million or more predominately Muslim minorities have been held in a vast network of detention centers

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