Open Forum: November 16, 2019

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    PS, JC, the “reds and blacks” game is roulette, not blackjacks.

  2. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Or hair.

    Still got all of mine, Knuckles, and it’s still all mostly black. Can’t explain it really.
    Both my grandfathers and my Dad all went white, then bald.
    But I did have all of it fall out after a particularly bad stroke a few years ago.
    But then it all grew back.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    Bahahahaaaaa.

    Prince Andrew’s PR advisor has quit, following that appalling interview with ‘I don’t sweat’ Andy.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m nearly 53 and it’s all going to shit.
    And you think you’ve got problems.

    As the hair falls away from your head, Struth, it has to emerge elsewhere. No worries. Technology to the rescue there. You can purchase little gadgets that whip away those unruly gentleman hairs in a jiffy. Keep it with a small mirror on your bedside table if waking visions are too troubling. A kindly wife might even use it to parry as a rapier to defend herself against any visiting apparition of Prime Ministers of yore.

    You can also purchase shearing equipment for the rest of the masculine body, turning your good lady eventually into a gun shearer. Shaving though – that’s your job. Daily obviously, and twice daily if you are going out or if it’s date nite. Romantically acquired razor rash is so troubling. That’s my experience anyway.

    Most of this careful grooming can of course be outsourced. Hairdressers are happy to attend to ears and eyebrows of any gent of a certain age, given that the pate is not much of a challenge to them in these Latter Days. As I’ve mentioned here before too, Myrtle, my manicurist, is busy retraining to attend with wax to the nether regions of the Woke Urban Man, but like another hairy gentleman I know, you might find entry to her salon a step too far. 🙂

    Anyway, none of it is anything that a few drinks and a good war movie won’t fix. We watched ‘The Battle of Britain’ followed by ‘Cross of Iron’ on Foxtel the other nite. Other times, other lives.

  5. Snoopy

    TheirABC’s resident butch firefighter, Michael Rowland, is very excited about a joint Australian government / Chinese government human rights program having been cancelled in August. Why, oh why? he wails.

    Maybe because it was an all too obvious waste of money and effort?

  6. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3214753, posted on November 18, 2019 at 9:02 am

    Bahahahaaaaa.

    Prince Andrew’s PR advisor has quit, following that appalling interview with ‘I don’t sweat’ Andy

    FMD.
    I saw snippets of it on the news last night.
    WTF?
    Fucking train-wreck.
    Done nuffink wrong … but let the side down.
    Epstein … bit of a cad, but I learnt a lot.
    Errr … and I don’t sweat.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Sweating is for pore people, not Royalty.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    Which of ER II’s offspring are not inbred muppets?
    (Possible trick question).

  9. struth

    Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch admitted Friday under questioning from Republican counsel that she had been briefed about the fact that Hunter Biden was on Burisma’s board, but did nothing about it.

    Hunter Biden, one of then-Vice President Joe Biden’s children, was named to a highly-compensated board position in 2014 while his father was overseeing U.S.-Ukraine relations — a situation that diplomat George Kent testified Wednesday presented a clear conflict of interest.

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    Yovanovitch testified, in response to questions from Stephen Castor before the House Intelligence Committee’s second public hearing in the impeachment inquiry, that she had been informed about the situation in her briefing documents for her confirmation hearing, and had even been coached on how to respond, but took no action when she arrived at her post:

    Castor: Right around the time the bribe was paid [by an oligarch], Burisma undertook an effort to spruce up their board and they added, I believe, the president of Poland and some other luminaries. Are you familiar with that?

    Yovanovitch: Yeah — I don’t exactly know what the timing of all this was, but yes, I mean, to the elements.

    Castor: And, you know, one of the folks they added to the board was the vice president’s son, Hunter Biden. Which, you know, raises questions. Is he a genius on the corporate governance front? Is he a genius with the oligarchal systems and cleaning that up, or was he just added to the board because he’s the vice president’s son? Was that ever, you know, a concern, or at least the perception of that concern addressed?

    Yovanovitch: As I said, I arrived in August of 2016, several months before the elections and several months before President Trump took office. And it was not a focus of what I was doing in that six-month period.

    Castor: OK. Was the issue ever raised at all?

    Yovanovitch: You know, not —

    Castor: He was still on the board, I think, at the time.

    Yovanovitch: Year, my understanding from newspaper accounts is that he just recently left, in 2019. I never met him, never talked to him. And I’m sorry — what was your question?

    Castor: He was still on the board when you arrived at post, and I was just wondering if at least the perception problem was brought to your attention as the ambassador.

    Yovanovitch: We — I was aware of it, because as I told you before, in the deposition, there had been a — in terms of the preparation for my Senate confirmation hearings for Ukraine, there was a question about that and a select answer. So I was aware of it, yes.

    Rep. Elaine Stefanik (R-NY) later noted that while Democrats on the committee had tried to suppress questions about Burisma, the Obama administration itself had prepared her to answer them for her confirmation hearing.

    Stefanik: The first time you personally became aware of Burisma was actually when you were being prepared by the Obama State Department for your Senate confirmation hearings. And this was in the form of practice questions and answers. This was your deposition. And you testified that in this particular practice Q & A with the Obama State Department, it wasn’t just generally about Burisma and corruption, it was specifically about Hunter Biden and Burisma, is that correct?

    Yovanovitch: Yes, it is.

    Stefanik: And the exact quote from your testimony, Ambassador, is, quote, the way the question was phrased in this model Q & A was, what can you tell us about Hunter Biden’s, you know, being named to the board of Burisma? So for the millions of Americans watching, President Obama’s own State Department was so concerned about potential conflicts of interest from Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma that they raised it themselves while prepping this wonderful ambassador nominee before her confirmation. And yet our Democratic colleagues and the chairman of this committee cry fowl when we dare ask that same question the Obama administration was so concerned about. But we will continue asking it.

    Volume 90%

    Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) prevented Stefanik from speaking earlier in the hearing.

  10. feelthebern

    Krugman is the Yoda to our RBA’s chief’s Luke Skywalker.

  11. Snoopy

    Did the BBC ever go after Epstein or any of his associates before he considerately suicided?

  12. Tom

    Ex-Struth at 9.12am:

    The Woketards have destroyed the Charlie’s Angels franchise, just like they did Ghostbusters, Terminator, and Men in Black.

    We now have four lucrative franchises that were originally created to appeal to everyone — men, women, young, old… Then the strident feminists goosestepped in, took over, and abused their power to exclude men, demean men, humiliate and mock men. And each time, the result is the same: box office catastrophe, the death of a golden goose franchise.

    … And that’s not even counting the woke betamale destruction of the James Bond franchise.

  13. lotocoti

    Which of ER II’s offspring are not inbred muppets?

    Anne.
    The bloke no one remembers, precisely because he’s the bloke no one remembers.

  14. struth

    No hair is falling from my head, thanks mum, we’ll just clear that up.
    Still a bloody thick covering all over.
    I was a blonde young fella and then of course it went darker , and now going bloody grey, and quickly too.
    The horror in the mirror (which I thought had a crack in it) is seen as a horror because I was able to keep it all together until about 51, and people would not believe I was as old as I was, (which helps doing gigs) but now it’s hitting me with a vengeance.
    Bugger.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I did have all of it fall out after a particularly bad stroke a few years ago.
    But then it all grew back.

    Interesting, Peter, especially that it retained its colour. Cosmeticians are discovering all sorts of things like this now, ways to trick the skin or otherwise change it. Laser hair removal is one of them, which kills the hair cells, while other lasers can stimulate them. There are also various sorts of ‘treatments’ such as IPL (Intense Pulsed Light) and PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) and Skin ‘Needling’ which cause minor interruption to normal skin processes, ‘shocking’ the skin into gearing up repairs. Some work, some don’t, and a lot seems to depend on practitioner skill aligning to the client’s own skin type and general health.

    It’s not all left to surgical interventions these days.
    I note that Hillary has been very busy in the facial correctives department lately, of this minor sort mainly now, I suspect. It might indicate she wants to have another go at Madam President, as per Newsweek. lol.

  16. struth

    If I get any uglier, I’ll have to go into politics.

  17. mh

    Then the strident feminists goosestepped in, took over, and abused their power to exclude men, demean men, humiliate and mock men. And each time, the result is the same: box office catastrophe, the death of a golden goose franchise.

    There is a place for that kind of material – Pornhub.

    Not the local Cineplex.

  18. Snoopy

    I’m not the best at conducting internet searches, but I can’t find any reference by TheirABC to Epstein and and Randy Andy associate Katherine Keating.

  19. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Still a bloody thick covering all over.

    Just like me then, Struth. I still have a good thick hair, a silky blonde covering with no temple loss, the fate of many a lady of a certain age. Oestrogen and good genes both at work there. Not too mumsy, either, btw.

    As for your greyness, Struth, carpe diem. To Chemist Warehouse immediately for some L’Oreal Ash Blonde and expend fifteen bucks on the stuff that has a built-in ‘streak’ appearance. Do not go for the sharper all over blonde look in the high blonde ranges, as it will seem fake. A hairdresser is best for this, but as a male you may wish to try first with some DIY. You mix two little bottles together, shake them and spread it on, leave for 30 minutes, then simply wash it off, apply the conditioner, and you are a New Man. If you bugger it up, then a hairdresser can fix it so no matter.

  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh, forgot to say: for legal reasons they insist you try a ‘patch test’ first to ensure you aren’t allergic to their stuff. Most people aren’t and everyone I have spoken to about this ignores that. You’d soon find out if you were. 🙂

  21. Percy Popinjay

    Lizzie and JC – I unreservedly apologise for implying that your show on IKEA furniture (produced by everyone’s favourite car restorer) would be a hugely unwatched televisual turkey.

    It’s all about onscreen chemistry (think Madge and David) and you two would have it in spades.

  22. struth

    Sorry, but I’m not the type to dye my hair.
    I couldn’t live with myself.
    I’ve been straight all my life.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Percy, JC and I would be stars. Absolutely no doubt about that. We would bring tons of experience and almost unlimited chutzpah to our show. Our ‘Ikea Without Divorce’ section would be highly anticipated. 🙂

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    Which of ER II’s offspring are not inbred muppets?

    Meghan news.

    Meghan Markle and Hillary Clinton Secretly Spent the Afternoon Together at Frogmore Cottage (16 Nov)

    Hillary Clinton says Meghan Markle’s race ‘absolutely’ contributes to media’s coverage of her (13 Nov)

    She’s not Liz’s offspring and she’s not inbred, otherwise she fits right in. Maybe she wants to be the first royal, black and female vice president of the United States of America.

  25. Rex Mango

    ABC RN News this morning said flooding in Venice was caused by climate change due the hot sirocco wind coming off Africa driving water up the Adriatic. So forget about rising sea levels, it is global warming over Africa causing wind that is pushing the sea up. Talk about any port in a storm.

  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry, but I’m not the type to dye my hair.
    I couldn’t live with myself.
    I’ve been straight all my life.

    Come on now, Struth. Life is change and about trying new things, or you simply grow old and fade away. No need for that. My own Hairy still has very dark hair in the short fringing which surrounds his increasingly obvious monastic patch so we haven’t had that particular discussion yet, and like you I am sure he would resist. But the day will come, and discuss we will. 🙂

  27. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Talk about any port in a storm.

    lol, Rex. And by its nature, Venice is all port. An ideal choice for them.
    Shame about all the previous inundations over the centuries. Takes the gloss off for them.

  28. struth

    To be honest Lizzie, I couldn’t give a shit and if I was back driving trucks or when doing my seasonal tour work , it actuall woks in m favour to be a bit grey.
    The only concern I have about my appearance is for the gig work over the summer.

    Mrs Struth tells me I need to care more about clothes and appearance, as she says most men who are not on stage care more than me.
    I tell her that’s bullshit and I have a bath once a month whether I need it or not.
    I always dust off my Rossi’s before going on stage.

  29. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Actually, Percy, I am revising our introductory sequence to now be called ‘Divorcing With Ikea’.
    We would show how easy and how frequently achieved this desirable state can be. You’d have to agree that most people watching us would be desperate. 🙂

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A little spray of the groin area with a quality insect repellent, should be all that is needed to perfume you up, Struth. Can be applied either over or under your trousers. Armpits optional. 🙂

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC RN News this morning said flooding in Venice was caused by climate change due the hot sirocco wind coming off Africa driving water up the Adriatic.

    Global warming in Venice in 1825.

  32. Rex Mango

    BoN, just checking out Wikipedia & their list in the modern era below. They also estimate that the 1686 flood was 50cm higher than 1966 at 254cm. Interestingly 2019, gets recorded three times, whereas 1966 only gets one measurement:

    Exceptional high waters since 1923[edit]

    The levels reached by high waters, engraved on the walls of Ca’ Farsetti, Venice’s City Hall.

    The levels reached by waters, painted outside a Venice shop
    According to the records of the Tide Monitoring and Forecast Centre of Venice,[2] these are the maximal documented levels (in decreasing, not chronological, order):
    194 cm on November 4, 1966
    187 cm on November 12, 2019
    166 cm on December 22, 1979
    158 cm on February 1, 1986
    156 cm on October 29, 2018
    156 cm on December 1, 2008
    154 cm on November 15, 2019
    152 cm om November 17, 2019
    151 cm on November 12, 1951
    149 cm on November 11, 2012
    147 cm on April 16, 1936
    147 cm on November 16, 2002
    145 cm on December 25, 2009
    145 cm on October 15, 1960
    144 cm on November 13, 2019
    144 cm on December 23, 2009
    144 cm on November 3, 1968
    144 cm on November 6, 2000
    143 cm on February 12, 2013
    143 cm on November 1, 2012
    142 cm on December 8, 1992
    140 cm on February 17, 1979
    Maximum high tide level: 1.94 m recorded on November 4, 1966
    Minimum ebb tide level: −1.21 m, recorded on February 14, 1934
    Maximum difference between a high tide and the following ebb tide: 1.63 m, recorded on January 28, 1948, and on December 28, 1970
    Maximum difference between an ebb tide and the following high tide: 1.46 m, recorded on February 23 and 24, 1928, as well as on January 25, 1966

  33. struth

    A little spray of the groin area with a quality insect repellent, should be all that is needed to perfume you up, Struth. Can be applied either over or under your trousers. Armpits optional.

    Blood hell, I’d be out protesting the Adani mine before you knew it.

  34. Old School Conservative

    notafan
    #3214658, posted on November 18, 2019 at 6:43 am
    austrac report, casino remitters and airline crews help launder cash

    My favourite sentence in that AUSTRAC report was the boast “Fighting Financial Crime Together”, followed by
    The offender received a 12-month good behaviour bond.

  35. Geriatric Mayfly

    So forget about rising sea levels, it is global warming over Africa causing wind that is pushing the sea up.
    These Sahara winds are real work horses. Last northern winter they were alleged to be sneaking so far north into the Arctic that they were pushing those Polar Vortexes further and further south into the US.

  36. lotocoti

    Renovator’s delight.
    Might require more than two bottles of Exit Mould.

  37. Boambee John

    Muddy

    While crossing swords with a fanatical alarmist over at donaitkin.com, I came up with what I hope is an original effort for the Catictionary.

    Denialarmist: a climate change alarmist who either denies the empirical data on the impact of CO2 on climate, or denies statements previously made which since have been shown so clearly to be incorrect that acknowledging that they were actually made simply demonstrates the incompetence of the writer/speaker.

  38. notafan

    The offender received a 12-month good behaviour bond.

    Can’t be responsible for what the courts do

    austrac aren’t completely useless is all I am saying

    nor is the federal government actively supporting money laundering. despite what some loony youtuber might be claiming

  39. Roger

    ABC online helpfully informs its readers:

    “Fire behaviour expert Ben Twomey says gusty winds are driving bushfire.”

    What would we do without them?

  40. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Mysterious, but unsubstantiated Sahara winds have been around for quite a while.

    They feature prominently in a section of “Book of the Damned”, by Charles Fort, published in 1919.
    Back then they were held responsible by the “experts”, for otherwise inexplicable “rainfalls” of small fish, frogs, and other aquatic life, in England and Europe.

    Fort was somewhat sceptic.
    He probably would have made a good “climate denier” these days.

  41. Tel

    Did the BBC ever go after Epstein or any of his associates before he considerately suicided?

    Yes … they reported the case back in 2015, including a number of people mentioned as being associated.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30657855

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Fire behaviour expert Ben Twomey says gusty winds are driving bushfire.”

    As a point of clarification did he mention that the fire and smoke were travelling in the same direction as the wind?

  43. struth

    Regards the idiocy of the Hollywood producers.
    They may be extreme left wing nutters but even they know that you can’t sell leftism to leftists if they have to buy it with their own money.

    If you want to play music to hippies it has to be done at taxpayer funded festivals like Womad etc.
    The entertainment industry know these things, yet out comes this woke bullshit.

    Here in Australia, the Film Industry relies on handouts from government and writes scripts to impress left wing nut jobs ready to finance it with our taxes from within government.
    I suspect much the same is now going on in California.

  44. struth

    The MSM going full tilt against a member of the monarchy, regards Epstein.
    but …………………………Clinton, crickets.

  45. lotocoti

    An ABC staff brains trust you say.
    Would this staff brains trust be sourced from the same brains trust which once evacuated an ABC news room because a J’ismist mis-googled the domestic cleaning product being used by the facility maintenance guy?

  46. Old School Conservative

    Mark A

    #3214673, posted on November 18, 2019 at 7:06 am
    Eyrie
    #3214672, posted on November 18, 2019 at 7:04 am

    Mark A, the walls are touching. Zero distance.

    Bingo, I wish you’d held back but.
    WD nonetheless.

    OK, I’ll ask the dumb question.
    How come the “walls are touching”?
    They seem to be separated by some distance.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Fire behaviour expert Ben Twomey says gusty winds are driving bushfire.”

    I fought my first bushfire in the early 1970’s and I never realized that before. Thank you to the A.B.C. for enlightening me.

  48. The Woketards have destroyed the Charlie’s Angels franchise, just like they did Ghostbusters, Terminator, and Men in Black.

    Hang on…shouldn’t a Charlie’s Angels remake feature 3 men as the Angels and an old sophisticated woman as Charlie? Also, having Pouty McPoutface as one of the Angels was a spectacularly bad idea. Fucking awful actress, just fucking awful. But she obviously blew Weinstein a few times.

    Is there anything remaining the left haven’t destroyed yet?

  49. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    It’s okay Zulu, you’re not to blame for not knowing back in the 1970’s.
    Climate change only started to produce gusty winds last week.
    Before that, there were no gusty winds, and bushfires were static.

  50. Old School Conservative

    Leigh Lowe
    #3214572, posted on November 17, 2019 at 11:35 pm
    “Lawyer X links to former Labor Minister”
    Tomorrow’s Tele.
    Will make for interesting reading.

    Why the Tele and not the Hun?

    You were right.
    A former Labor police minister personally signed off on a $2.8 million ­taxpayer-funded payment to Nicola Gobbo, with sources saying it was likely he knew of her informer status at the time. Herald Sun.

  51. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Before that, there were no gusty winds, and bushfires were static.

    That’s a cup of early morning tea and a new keyboard you owe me..

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    OK, I’ll ask the dumb question.
    How come the “walls are touching”?
    They seem to be separated by some distance.

    basic addition

  53. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Is there anything remaining the left haven’t destroyed yet?

    Yes. Chess.
    And wyminses are hopeless at it.
    Be grateful for small mercies.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ex-Labor minister signed off on taxpayer-funded payout to Gobbo

    A former Labor police minister personally signed off on a $2.8 million ­taxpayer-funded payment to Nicola Gobbo, with sources saying it was likely he knew of her informer status at the time.
    Anthony Dowsley and Patrick Carlyon, Mercury
    Subscriber only
    |
    November 18, 2019 7:11am

    A former Labor police minister has been dragged into the Lawyer X scandal amid revelations he personally signed off on a $2.8 million ­taxpayer-funded payment to ­Nicola Gobbo.

    The Herald Sun can reveal Bob Cameron — police minister between 2006 and 2010 in the Bracks and Brumby governments — authorised the massive payout to Gobbo shortly before the November 2010 election.

    The bombshell is the first time the scandal has extended beyond police and legal circles into the political realm and raises questions about who in the Brumby government knew about her secret role as a registered informer.

    Gobbo had demanded compensation of $20 million, claiming a police decision to make her a witness in a murder investigation targeting alleged corrupt officer Paul Dale had ruined her legal career and threatened her health and safety.

    The Herald Sun can now reveal the $2.88 million settlement was signed off by Mr Cameron some time between August and September of 2010. Labor was defeated in the election weeks later on November 27.

    Labor sources said it was not clear whether Mr Cameron was briefed on Gobbo’s top secret informer status before approving the settlement, but they believe it is likely he was.

    It is believed the minister received a briefing note from police command on Gobbo, although it is not clear how much detail he was given.

    When contacted by the Herald Sun, Mr Cameron said he did not comment on “matters of the past”.

    When asked if he was briefed by police command about Gobbo’s informer status and what instructions he gave, Mr Cameron said: “I don’t recall those details.”

  55. Herodotus

    I wonder if his boss ever admonished him: “Drink, Twomey, only with thine eyes”.

  56. EvilElvis

    There is a place for that kind of material – Pornhub.

    Was thinking (hoping) the same… Now where’s my PayPal password.

  57. EvilElvis

    The only concern I have about my appearance is for the gig work over the summer.

    Has this issue been raised by band members/manager/promoter/punters, struth?

  58. struth

    Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released the long-awaited transcript from senior National Security Council official Tim Morrison on Saturday, and immediately distorted it for the benefit of the anti-Trump media.

    It was a typical example of how Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and his staff have tried to skew the fact-finding process in an effort to inflate public support for impeachment, believing few will read the lengthy transcripts for themselves.

    First, the committee withheld the transcript since October 31, only releasing it after the first public hearings began last week. Morrison’s testimony was rumored to be very good for President Donald Trump’s defense — Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) had described Democrats in the room during the closed-door hearing as “sucking lemons” — and Republicans would have made good use of it, had they had the transcript available. But it was not provided.

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    In the interim, Democrats had sole possession of the document. Schiff does not allow copies of the transcripts to be released to Republicans, either in paper or electronic form. If they want to read transcripts, they must do so one by one, in the presence of a Democrat committee staffer. Not only is that rule humiliating, but it also allows Democrats to control the flow of information and to prepare their public arguments with no fear of timely Republican rebuttal.

    In the Morrison case, Democrats released “key excerpts” that highlighted the few facts in his testimony that, they believe, help push the case for impeachment. Chief among these is that Morrison confirmed that he heard U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland claim that he told a Ukrainian official, in a private “sidebar” meeting, that aid would be released if the Ukrainian prosecutor general would publicly announce an investigation into Burisma.

    But that is just hearsay evidence, as is Morisson’s confirmation of Charge d’affairs William Taylor’s testimony (repeated in public last week) that Sondland, after speaking to President Trump, “there was no quid pro quo, but President Zelensky must announce the opening of the investigations and he should want to do it.”

    Sure enough, CNN and other networks highlighted these and other supposedly damaging sections of Morrison’s testimony.

    These are the top news results on Google for the search “Tim Morrison,” as of Sunday morning, November 17:
    •CNN: “Ex-NSC official corroborates Sondland said he was directed by Trump on Ukraine“
    •NPR: “NSC Official Faults Sondland’s Role In ‘Shadow’ Ukraine Policy“
    •USA Today: “Morrison said he was ‘not comfortable’ with Ukraine President Zelensky being involved in US politics: the latest“
    •Daily Beast: “National Security Official Tim Morrison Feared Leaks of Trump’s Call to Ukraine President Would Be Damaging“
    •Politico: “Sondland said he was acting on Trump’s orders, aide told investigators“

    But these reports downplay or omit the most important parts of Morrison’s testimony for Trump’s defense:
    •Morrison testified “I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed” on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, to which he himself listened. That statement does not appear anywhere in the Democrats’ “key excerpts” document. He also testified that he “did not have a view” on whether President Trump’s comments to Zelensky on the phone call were “improper.”
    •Morrison testified that he was afraid that the conversation would leak — not because he thought the president had done anything wrong, as Democrats’ “key excerpts” document implies, but because he knew about what would happen, given “Washington’s polarized environment.” The Democrats’ summary of the document omits this telling exchange between Morrison and chairman Adam Schiff — no doubt, because it damages their case:

    THE CHAIRMAN: Okay. I just wanted to follow up a bit on this.

    One of the concerns, and there may be an overlap between the first two concerns you mentioned about the caII, and if the call became public. First, you said you wene concerned how it would play out in Washington’s polarized environment and, second, how a leak would affect bipartisan suppont for our Ukrainian partners.

    Were those concerns nelated to the fact that the President asked his Ukrainian countenpant to look into on investigate the Bidens?

    MR. MORRISON: No, not specifically.

    THE CHAIRMAN: So you didn’t think that the President of the United States asking his counterpart to conduct an investigation into a potential opponent in the 2020 election might influence bipartisan support in Congress?

    MR. MORRISON: No.

    THE CHAIRMAN: And you weren’t concerned that the President bringing up one of his political opponents in the Presidential election and asking a favor with respect to the DNC server or 2016 theory, you weren’t concerned that those things would cause people to believe that the President was asking his counterpart to conduct an investigation that might influence his reelection campaign?

    MR. MORRISON: No.

    THE CHAIRMAN: That never occurred to you?

    MR. MORRISON: No.

    THE CHAIRMAN: Did you recognize during the — as you listened to the call that if Ukraine were to conduct these investigations, that it would inure to the President’s political interests?

    MR. MORRISON: No.
    •Morrison contradicted Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the Democrats’ star witness in the closed-door hearings, who reported to Morrison directly. Morrison testified that while he admired his subordinate’s patriotism, he was irritated that Vindman failed to report concerns about the call directly to him. He said Vindman never raised concerns that something illegal had happened. He also said he accepted all of Vindman’s proposed edits to the call record, contrary to Vindman’s testimony. And while he did not think that Vindman was a leaker, he testified: “I had concerns that he did not exercise appropriate judgment as to whom he would say what.” He said that Vindman’s sloppy practices were partly the result of his own predecessor at the NSC, Dr. Fiona Hill — another one of the Democrats’ star witnesses, who, like Morrison, is due to testify publicly this week.
    •Morrison testified that other foreign aid being offered by the U.S. at the time was reportedly under review — not just to Ukraine. And he confirmed earlier testimony that the aid being held up did not include the essential Javelin anti-tank missiles, which were being delivered to Ukraine through a separate procurement process.
    •Morrison testified that he had no concerns that President Trump asked President Zelensky, during the July 25 phone call, to meet with his personal attorney, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
    •Morrison kept NSC lawyers informed about what was going on — not because he was concerned Trump had done anything wrong, but because he wanted “to protect the president” from whatever Sondland was doing.

    All of these facts are missing in the Democrats’ “key excerpts.” The Democrats do acknowledge a few exculpatory moments, but downplay them.

    For example, the “key excerpts” document includes Morrison’s testimony that the transcript of the July 25 call was placed on a more secure server by “mistake” — but focuses on the fact that it was not removed from the more secure server after that.

    Morrison also confirmed that the Ukrainians did not know that the aid was being held up until a Politico article appeared on August 28, and he said that Sondland’s side conversation with a Ukrainian official in September was “the first time something like this [investigations] had been injected as a condition on the release of the assistance.” Democrats include that latter quote, but downplay it.

    Similarly, Democrats distorted the testimony of Jennifer Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence, whose testimony was also released on Saturday. Democrats highlighted the fact that Williams testified that she was told by another aide that Trump told Pence to skip Zelensky’s inauguration in May — though she did not hear that first-hand.

    They quote her as saying the July 25 call “for me shed some light on possible other motivations behind a secunity assistance hold.” But they leave out her saying she “didn’t have any firsthand knowledge as to the reasoning.”

    Both Morrison and Williams are scheduled to testify in public hearings before the committee on Tuesday.

  59. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    No sympathy Zulu.
    After writing off about six laptops (last one a couple of weeks before Christmas, with a glass of Shiraz), I invested in a waterproof, wireless keyboard and mouse.

    Best$60.00 I ever spent on computer stuff.

  60. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Was thinking (hoping) the same… Now where’s my PayPal password.

    Pornhub is free – or so I am told.

  61. EvilElvis

    Renovator’s delight.
    Might require more than two bottles of Exit Mould.

    it has to be done at taxpayer funded

    Who’s in charge of grant mining here? Why have we not got $30 million sitting in a, er, secure account from whatever entertainment funding (taxpayer of course) entity in every state to buy this place and do a weird lesbo, indigenous, horror, girl power movie and it’s subsequent pornhub spin offs already??

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NSW and Queensland bushfires emergency: teen arsonists questioned, heatwave looms, NSW fires worst in 25 years

    By Aap
    AAP
    An hour ago November 18, 2019
    1 Comment

    Three teenage boys have been arrested after a grassfire was lit in a southwest Sydney suburb.

    The trio, two aged 15 and one aged 16, were detained on Sunday evening in the Harrington Park area.

    Authorities had been alerted to a fire in the bush off The Northern Road at Harrington Park about 5.30pm by a passing motorist.

    The fire was extinguished about 45 minutes later.

    The teens were taken to Narellan Police Station for questioning.

    Arsonists should be handed over to the local brigade……

  63. EvilElvis

    Pornhub is free – or so I am told.

    Yeah, but I get the guilts sometimes ‘looking’ at that stuff and contributing a few shekels makes me feel all gentlemanly.

  64. Old School Conservative

    Thanks for the hint Zippy.
    It appears I am not Amazon employee material.

  65. Eyrie

    OSC, the cable is 80 meters long. Half of that is 40 meters. The walls are 50 meters high. The bottom of the cable is 10 meters above the ground. So you have to double up the cable to make it all work. Then the walls are touching.

  66. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    looking’ at that stuff and contributing a few shekels makes me feel all gentlemanly.

    Email the dosh to me and I’ll try to talk Elle into telling you what a stud you are.

  67. Leigh Lowe:

    And, as everyone knows, we face a critical beat shortage which Mr I.am is trying to alleviate.

    Surprised he didn’t say “Don’t you know who I am?”

  68. lotocoti

    EvilElvis, I like your thinking.
    Perhaps the re-woking of an Aussie classic.

  69. struth

    Has this issue been raised by band members/manager/promoter/punters, struth?

    Nope.
    Just Mrs Struth!
    I’m mostly a solo act.
    Just that solo bloke you see down at your local RSL, or in your local Pub.
    I play some resorts like the Sand bar on Fraser Island , Hervey Bay ,every now and then but that’s about it.
    Yet I’m very much aware of it being a very superficial industry, always has been.

    Nowadays, those that hire you in the RSL’s and clubs up here, are younger than half my audience, and these young girls decide who gets gigs.
    So you just have to be good and a cut above, and the young acts (not all) coming through are not as good as the young ones before them, and are quite depressing, sad acts.
    By that I mean they are singing sad depressing stuff, slowly and with feeling, and new stuff which is like that and badly written.
    Peer pressure keeps them down.
    Us older guys understand we are there to sell piss and sell it to happy people.
    But still, looks count to a point.

  70. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It appears I am not Amazon employee material.

    do you want me to walk you through it? wall is 50m high, the bottom of the rope has a 10m gap, giving 40m of dangling rope, which happens to be 80m long…..

  71. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Surprised he didn’t say “Don’t you know who I am?”

    a simple stare should’ve been all that is necessary from hip hop royalty

  72. Infidel Tiger

    Hong Kong burning.

    Yes let’s keep ignoring the actions of those disgusting Chicom Xunts.

    Trade is all that matters.

  73. John Constantine

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/60-minutes-investigates-chinas-growing-influence-in-the-south-pacific/news-story/d855ee6982de6eea5c60327893dc1008

    Media that ask who gets the bags full of cash from the communist party of China get thrown out the pacific island for asking.

    OBOR.

    Australias media can now take the next step and ask what hawke/keating/rudds/gillard/ turnbulls did to get from political wage in backwater nation to global elite status.

  74. John Constantine

    “It’s the start of a comprehensive plan that they have to dominate the region,” Captain Jim Fanell said.

    “And at first it’s with economic development, but it will be followed by fishing fleets and maritime law enforcement and then eventually Naval forces.”

    Mr Fanell believes the paranoia around media crews in the country is tied up with the alleged large amounts of money being brought in.

    “Well, I think it’s pretty clear that there’s something to do with the kinds of money that’s being brought in,” he said.

    “How that money is being distributed, obviously would be something that they would probably not want people to know about or hear about.”

    Despite threats of imprisonment, the crew were eventually deported out of the country days later.

  75. John Constantine

    A $825 million deal was struck to allow China to redevelop the Solomon Islands’ Gold Ridge mine.

    Chinese ambassador Xue Bing, described the deal as an “early harvest”.

    Along with the profits from the mine, all port facilities, roads, rail and bridges built to service it will also remain in China’s control.

  76. Old School Conservative

    Eyrie and Zippy:
    my communication skills are on a low par with my reasoning ability.

    I was trying to say that it took Zippy’s hint before I could work out the puzzle thus Amazon would not be happy with my initial performance.

    Thank you both for your kind explanations.

  77. Max:

    Paterson and Hastie not repenting. The mood is turning on China.
    Brennan lays it out above: their modus is to pay off elites.
    A hot war in 5 years says Brennan and in the South China Sea.

    I give it 2 years max.
    These things come on really quick – I suggest to you that China has a 2 year time frame before she belts us (the West) with a surprise attack. Any longer and President Trump will have had a chance to boost the US defences.
    The rest of the world will, of course, lie back and continue to hope the war doesn’t happen before they can get their pensions.

  78. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    do you want me to walk you through it?

    Forget it, Zippy.
    He just doesn’t get it.

  79. Infidel Tiger

    China has just taken over Kenya’s ports after they defaulted on a loan.

    The Africans are going to miss the British when this is all over.

  80. ZK2A:

    So the clinic staff are fed up with repeated break ins, and choose not to stay in the Third World shithole? And, somehow, they are to blame for leaving?

    Yes, ZK2A. They are to blame. That’s the mindset. They do not have rights because they are not Aboriginal.
    At least that’s what they’re told by the Aboriginal Industry.

  81. calli

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3214830, posted on November 18, 2019 at 11:08 am
    Is there anything remaining the left haven’t destroyed yet?

    Yes. Chess.
    And wyminses are hopeless at it.
    Be grateful for small mercies.

    I can beat the grandson hands down. He’s in the school chess club, so my triumphs will be very shortlived.

  82. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    He’s in the school chess club, so my triumphs will be very shortlived.

    If you like, Calli, I’ll teach him to play.
    Properly.
    It’ll take bout ten years.

  83. calli

    The view from my hotel window is down Copacabana beach to the Sugarloaf. Most impressive.

    Less impressive are the “beach” people. I have never seen so many acres of bikini-ed corpulence in my life, not even in Australia. Ipanema is no better. What on earth is happening to people? Is the entire population of the planet turning into Mr Creosotes? Even the volleyballers are wobbly. These are all young people, which is tragic.

  84. calli

    I think his club teacher is pretty good, Peter. And he’s only a very little boy. At ten, I think it’s important to not “let” him win, but to sit back and watch him rehearse strategy.

    By the way, I’m a rubbish player, but it’s fun.

  85. Shy Ted

    Who’s going to take one for the team and watch Australia Talks, hosted by the usual suspects, tonight? I hope there’s a thread for it, sort of Q&A style. There’s Annabel, Waleed, Kitty, Benjamin, Anne, Craig, Steph and Adam. Who all really, really know what Australians talk about. Looks like a rating winner.

  86. BrettW

    Alan Jones not impressed by Folau comments (via 2GB or Daily Mail).

  87. John64

    Which of ER II’s offspring are not inbred muppets?

    A conversation at Buckingham Palace between Her Maj and the Royal butler:

    Jeeves: “Ma’am, your son is on the phone.”

    ER II: “Is it the adulterer, the philanderer or the homosexual?”

  88. A hot war in 5 years says Brennan and in the South China Sea.

    …before she belts us (the West) with a surprise attack

    I agree with both of those.
    and
    Depending on how the battle plans fall apart AU will be out of the equation in the first week. No fuel. What reserves exist can be easily targeted.
    and
    all prompted by CCP domestic economy issues.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    Is there anything remaining the left haven’t destroyed yet?

    Yes. Chess.
    And wyminses are hopeless at it.

    Chess grandmaster Nigel Short: ‘Shrill feminists’ have made me a ‘misogynist pantomime villain’ (2015)

    He’s probably racist too since the white pieces move first.

  90. Chess.
    Handy tip. If you like to win, don’t play Russians or Poles.

  91. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I think it’s important to not “let” him win,

    One of the few things Marilyn and I fought over, Calli. Constantly.
    #1 son was eleven when he came home from school all disconsolate. It had been raining and some kid had thrashed him four times at lunch. He asked me teach him to play ‘properly’.
    And so began an odyssey.

    We would play two or three times a week, and after he lost I would move the pieces back to where he had gone wrong, and walk him through it. Then after he had gone to bed, Marilyn would start – “for goodness sake, can’t you let him win just every now and then”?

    “No”.

    Much later, when he had kids of his own, we used to all get together for fish and chips on a Friday night, and after dinner we would play chess. About six weeks after his twenty first birthday he beat me. Fair and square.

    He started bouncing around the dining room like a Zulu warrior, and Marilyn looked accusingly at me and said – “see how happy he is – I told you you should have let him win now and then.”

    At which point #1 son grabbed her by the shoulders and started bouncing her up and down with him.

    “No Mum, you don’t understand. I won. I beat him fair and square”.
    Words could not do justice to his joy.

    That was fourteen years ago.
    We still play about once a week, and in that time he’s won another five times.
    I blame the strokes.

  92. Mother Lode

    an afront to universal mediocrity
    Smartphones creating generational and income divide

    I have noticed a lot of very charming looking young women with their bent over their phones causing a substantial fold under their chins as if they are overweight.

    When they look up it disappears.

    My thoughts are:

    1) Does doing this repeatedly eventually affect the connective tissues resulting in a permanent, at least partial, pouch.

    2) The thought that before going out of the house they check to see how nicely they are done up, and don’t realise how much they undermine their efforts by sitting ‘ugly’, and never realising it because they don’t check how they look perched over their phone like a vulture before venturing out.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    A hot war in 5 years says Brennan and in the South China Sea.

    Taiwan.
    SCS is just a tripwire and defense in depth. They already own it all anyway, pretty much.
    Really depends on whether the PLA analysts reckon they can stand off several US carrier groups. Which they may decide they can’t, not yet. The performance of Chinese antiship missile designs against US assets has been abysmal (see USS Mason incident).

  94. Mother Lode

    a simple stare should’ve been all that is necessary from hip hop royalty

    Hip hop royalty in Business Class.

  95. Snoopy

    Along with the profits from the mine,

    What profits?

  96. Leigh Lowe

    Shy Ted

    #3214869, posted on November 18, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    Who’s going to take one for the team and watch Australia Talks, hosted by the usual suspects, tonight?

    Not I.
    Saw the promo …
    What should we do about climate change? (I am guessing “fuck all” won’t be an option, but “tax” will be ridden hands and heels).
    What is a family? (Cue fags, lezzos, trannies and assorted freaks. Heteros are sooo 1995).
    Racism? Sexism? It is everywhere among old white men, but newly arrived Moosleys are pretty cool.

  97. What should we do about climate change?

    Prosecute the fraudsters. Y’know “rule of law”

    Find them guilty.
    Hang ’em.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    Australias media can now take the next step and ask what hawke/keating/rudds/gillard/ turnbulls did to get from political wage in backwater nation to global elite status.

    And we might ask what Skeletor was up to in her stint as FM from 2013 to 2018.
    Apart from throwing money at the Clintons and their entourage of thieves.

  99. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The only person idiotic enough, and capable of, starting a major conflict, is impatiently cooling his heels, waiting for Trump to end his stint in the White House.

    And it’s not China or Russia.
    All they are doing is grandstanding for their own domestic consumption.
    Neither of them are foolish enough to start a shooting war with the Yanks.

  100. Neither of them are foolish enough to start a shooting war with the Yanks.

    Tell us more Neville. Peace in your time?

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    The only person idiotic enough, and capable of, starting a major conflict, is impatiently cooling his heels, waiting for Trump to end his stint in the White House.

    Fatty, Trudy or Bambi?

  102. Leigh Lowe

    Why would the Chinks start a shooting war?
    Plan A is working beautifully.
    Bribe.
    Lend.
    Default (which was pre-ordained at the Bribe-Lend phase)
    Foreclose.
    Claim collateral assets which are worth 3 – 4 times the original loan.
    Use new assets to leverage next target.

  103. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Spot on again, Leigh.
    You’re on fire today.

  104. Why would the ChinksAdolf start a shooting war?

    1. Because their opposition might not be as awesome as the arm chair generals think.
    2. They have a cute backdoor solution to the Maginot line.
    3. They start to believe their own rhetoric.
    4. Government bureaucracies are prone to stuffing things up. Totalitarians or otherwise.

  105. Des Deskperson

    ‘Who’s going to take one for the team and watch Australia Talks, hosted by the usual suspects, tonight?

    Not I.’

    Nor I, but I am prepared to take one and watch the reanimated corpse of ‘Spicks and Specks’ lurch back on the screen sometime, I believe, soon.

  106. lotocoti

    Really depends on whether the PLA analysts reckon they can stand off several US carrier groups.

    Mass and a willingness to accept casualties will win it for the PLA(N).
    The political cost for the US if they lost a single CVN would be massive.
    Both domestic and international.

  107. Leigh Lowe

    Spot on again, Leigh.
    You’re on fire today

    Mmmyes.
    I haven’t been as diligent as I should have been over winter trimming back the tinder dry undergrowth.
    Cue Lizzie in 3 … 2 … 1 …

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’d’ve added Khamenei except he’s doubled down on the petrol price thing.
    Which with the other problems Iran has suggests the tiger he’s riding is pretty obstreperous right now, between the unhappiness of the plebs and the skintness of the treasury account. All that great satan little satan stuff he likes to do needs money. Lots and lots of money.

    Iran’s Ayatollah warns ‘thugs’ as protests escalate over increase gas prices (18 Nov)

    Add that his Hezbee friends are on the nose in Lebanon too.

    Lebanon sinks deeper in crisis after Safadi withdrawal (18 Nov)

    All in all Trump is looking quite the statesman right now, which will make the Left even more mental.

  109. Percy Popinjay

    Steyn in laugh out loud form again – yes, apparently some of these people actually exist:

    According to the Associated Press report, the signatories include:

    “Princeton Lyman, ambassador to South Africa and Nigeria under Presidents Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton; Monteagle Stearns, ambassador to Greece and Ivory Coast in the Ford, Carter and Reagan administrations; and Spurgeon Keeny Jr., deputy director of the Arms Control Agency in the Carter administration.”

    Princeton Lyman? Monteagle Stearns? Spurgeon Keeny Jr.? If Norman Lear’s shows had wacky characters like that, they’d still be in syndication. It’s a good rule of thumb that anything 59 economists, bureaucrats or diplomats are prepared to sign an open letter objecting to is by definition a good thing. But that goes double when the 59 panjandrums lined up against you are Princeton Monteagle Jr., President Nixon’s ambassador to the Spurgeon Islands; Spurgeon Monkfish III, President Ford’s ambassador to the Lyman Islands; Dartmouth Monticello IV, President Johnson’s personal emissary to His Serene Highness the Monteagle of Keeny; Columbia Long-Playing-Album, the first diplomat to be named by President Carter to the State Department’s Name Control Agency; and Vasser Peachy-Keeny, the first woman to be named Vasser Peachy-Keeny.

  110. I haven’t been as diligent as I should have been over winter trimming back the tinder dry undergrowth.

    Just when I thought we were done with the depilation threads.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3214862, posted on November 18, 2019 at 11:50 am

    China has just taken over Kenya’s ports after they defaulted on a loan.

    The Africans are going to miss the British when this is all over.

    Fucking amazing.
    Left wing j’isms and academics still quack on about the evils of Colognialism (sic) fifty years after it ended (really 75 – 100 years since real direct control was exercised in most cases).
    The Chinks set up colognial (sic) control 2.1.2 in Africa and not a whimper out of any of them.
    Says it all.

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    some of these people actually exist

    Adelaidians?

  113. mh

    Paused the Prince Andrew video. I need to de-cringe.

    I’m thinking he will have to get the best professional and legal advice from now. Someone will work on a sex addiction mea culpa for him I expect.

  114. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What Does It Take To Break China’ Rare Earth Dominance?

    Nothing, if you’re talking about the availability of the ore.
    Contrary to the catchy name, there’s nothing particularly “rare” about so-called “rare earths”.
    Australia has lots.

    What is missing is the willingness (for the time being) to make the unholy mess involved in turning the rare earth ore into finished product.

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    China has just taken over Kenya’s ports after they defaulted on a loan.

    And another conduit to ravage Africa’s wild life.

  116. Des Deskperson

    ‘Princeton Lyman? Monteagle Stearns? Spurgeon Keeny Jr.?’

    Back in the eighties when I was on the US desk in a certain department, the US Under Secretary Secretary of State was one Lawrence Eagleburger. He was late briefly Secretary of State under Bush Snr.

    He had four sons, each called Lawrence Eagleburger. I assumed that for practical purposes they referred to themselves and each other by their middle names – L. Jethro (or whatever) Eagleburger.

  117. Mother Lode

    China has just taken over Kenya’s ports after they defaulted on a loan.

    I suppose the time is coming for them to turn to the US to extricate them from this mess of their own doing. And if the US can help them, they will be deemed to forever own whatever problems arise afterwards, such as the insane improvidence that had the Africans greedily snatching at Chinese ‘gifts’ in the first place.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    He had four sons, each called Lawrence Eagleburger. 

    The inspiration for Bob Newhart’s, “this is my brother Daryl … and my other brother Daryl” perhaps?

  119. Mother Lode

    He had four sons, each called Lawrence Eagleburger. I assumed that for practical purposes they referred to themselves and each other by their middle names – L. Jethro (or whatever) Eagleburger.

    I believe the more traditional way to distinguish would be:

    Eagleburger with Cheese
    Eagleburger with Pineapple (the black sheep of the family to be sure)
    Doub L Eagleburger
    L Eagleburger Meal

  120. Leigh Lowe

    Eagleburger with Cheese
    Eagleburger with Pineapple (the black sheep of the family to be sure)
    Doub L Eagleburger
    L Eagleburger Meal

    Eagleburger Royale?

  121. Mother Lode

    Eagleburger Royale?

    A quarter pound of eagle mince.

    Usually if you want that you have to stand under a wind turbine when the wind is blowing with a bucket.

    The only limiting factor is when they are working.

  122. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    A quarter pound of eagle mince.

    Music to enjoy with your eagle mince dinner.

  123. johanna

    struth
    #3214742, posted on November 18, 2019 at 8:41 am

    I’m about to shave off my beard as it is getting too grey, and I’ve gone from looking ok to looking like an old grey whiskered slob.
    You young people can have your fun with your Mo’s and facial hair.
    And now I get Rogue eyebrows that grow overnight and when I wake up the world I see has a crack in it.
    I thought I needed a new computer the other day.
    The missus screams because she thinks she accidently slept with John Howard.
    I comb my hair and it pulls on my ears, and if I’m not on the ball, my nostrils hairs spring out on exhaling like a squid grasping at prey.
    I’m nearly 53 and it’s all going to shit.
    And you think you’ve got problems.

    You are a very funny man, and self deprecating with it. It’s a combination that normal women find it hard to resist. Mrs S. is a lucky woman.

    Ageing is hard on both sexes, but in different ways. You have described everything but balding, the other great curse of older blokes. I really feel sorry for them – the idea of losing my hair fills me with dread, even though it is quite acceptable for us girls to wear a wig.

    For women, it is the loss of the attractiveness that comes with youth that many find hard to deal with. It hasn’t bothered me much, because I never set a lot of store by my looks in the first place. Although I was quite pretty, I never cared about clothes or makeup or any of that stuff. But, lots of women do, for perfectly good reasons.

    As calli has noted, women over a certain age are invisible. I don’t mind much, invisibility has its compensations. Plus, I can un-invisible myself quite effectively if it is necessary via the power of speech.

    Anyway, cheer up mate. At least you don’t have to get up four times a night to attempt to pee, the fate of many an older man. Now, that would be seriously detrimental to one’s quality of life.

    Getting old sucks physically, but IMO it is excellent mentally – no more rookie mistakes, a better perspective on what is and isn’t important.

    And, as many have pointed out, it (usually) beats the alternative.

  124. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    At least you don’t have to get up four times a night to attempt to pee,

    Wanna bet?

  125. struth

    Bloody hell, If I drink a few glasses of red I wake up at 3 in the morning these days , on the dot.
    Then I wait for Tom’s cartoons because sleep isn’t an option.

    But alas no Red, I can even have scotch, and I’ll sleep straight through like a baby.

    But I love a good red.

    Thanks Johanna, as you can pick up, I’m just having a larf about it.
    Actually in very good health for my age and only now needing reading glasses…..which I thought had a crack in them the other morning.
    Mrs Struth is a bloody good cook too, so it’s very tempting to have good wine with it.

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Lawrence Eagleburger’

    Looong time ago, rumour was that the Vicco cops discovered that when ordering name tags from the approved distributor, the lackeys at said distributor didn’t look too hard at the rage they were making. Consequently, for a time (and only ever on night shift) tags appeared identifying the wearer as ‘I.P. Freely’, ‘Ron Jeremy’, ‘Constable Sergeant’, ‘Sergeant Constable’ and so on.

    One in particular apparently said ‘C. Eastwood’ and if asked, the wearer’s first name was given as Clint.

    Which was, of course, either monumentally unprofessional or piss funny when dealing with drug-fucked crooks and nuffies of the night, dependent on your POV.

    Allegedly this state of affairs continued for eight months or so until one night there was a massive pursuit involving four vans which ended with the villain’s car being run off Elgin Street in Caaaaarlton and into a shop. Followed by the crook being dragged onto the footpath and receiving a good kicking.

    Followed by a hot debrief with no time to swap tags back, followed by one copper explaining to the night shift Inspector that he was not in fact Senior Constable Eastwood and that his van was already damaged before the chase started.

    Apparently they were good times.

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the tags they were making’

    Not the phone. Me. Owning it.

  128. Boambee John

    Johanna

    Getting old sucks physically, but IMO it is excellent mentally – no more rookie mistakes, a better perspective on what is and isn’t important.

    Getting old might suck, but it beats the alternative.

  129. Lizzie:

    Anyway, none of it is anything that a few drinks and a good war movie won’t fix. We watched ‘The Battle of Britain’ followed by ‘Cross of Iron’ on Foxtel the other nite. Other times, other lives.

    “Cross of Iron” is actually very well done in terms of the recreation of defensive positions standardised for the Eastern Front.
    Just thought you’d like to know…

  130. jupes

    Mitch M, my response to your post from last night:

    The book doesn’t address Australian military, mostly USA and is only from WW2 onwards because there is insufficient information on WW1. Besides in WW1 those who were shell shocked often treated as deserters and shot.

    FYI, Australia didn’t execute a single soldier in WW1, nor did they allow the Brits to execute Australians.

    The same is happening in the USA. That could be arising because of what a former marine once told me about: moral injury. There is a big difference fighting for a just cause and fighting for a problematic one.

    Yeah nah. (At the risk of raising the succubus) Contemporary Australian soldiers are all volunteers. Most infantry soldiers join to see combat. They trust that if the government sends them there it is for a good cause i.e. the national interest.

    Another issue is that blast injury is much more devastating now than in the past.

    No. A soldier on the Western Front was much more likely to get a blast injury than a soldier in Afghanistan. My grandfather was evacuated from Tobruk because of blast injury.

    The mollycoddling is probably involved. Blame the parents for that.

    Sure, but I blame the army for not being harsh during basic training. They are sending civilians to war and it breaks them.

    In Beyond Human Nature Jesse Prinz puts forward the idea that we are scripting people for depression. There is something to that. Confirmation bias is rife. When ADD became an official diagnosis rates soared in the 80’s, now we’re seeing the same with ASD. Everyone think this or that behavior is ASD. Most people who rant about ASD don’t even know about misophonia or stimming but that doesn’t stop them playing Dr. Kanner.

    It seems that since we have made it okay to talk about all mental health, mental health problems have increased.

    Mental health professionals have a huge vested interest in diagnosing depression and anxiety: more patients equals more money. It is too easy to con mental health professionals. As one wit commented: want a diagnosis of schizophrenia, just tell ’em you’re paranoid and smoke pot.

    The same can be done with PTSD.

    I’m no fan of psychology, I think it is a conceptual mess. Positive psychology is a perfect example of what is so wrong with psychology. Until recently its leading proponent, Scott Barry Kaufmann, now quietly teaching at some NY educational institution, was the most popular psychologist on the planet. Sports psychology is as stupid as Positive Psychology. Self-esteem was hugely dumb. When a profession is pushing nonsense like that it is time it went back to first principles but they won’t do that, better to keep the money rolling in than question therapies.

    I’m no fan either. I tried to get someone sacked from work a decade or so ago for pschotic behaviour that Blind Freddy could have diagnosed. The employer had three psychologists and one psychiatrist examine the evil bint but they were split 50:50 in their diagnosis. The employer kept her on.

  131. Mother Lode

    “Lately, we are seeing a disturbing number of large corporates (sic) publicly admitting that they have underpaid their staff,” said ombudsman Sandra Parker.

    Does she think it is a plot by ‘corporates’? Or the result of ambiguous and byzantine regulation, and onerous costs where businesses simply can’t afford to staff at the levels the regulation would imply.

    I can understand the trolls at the ABC who produce nothing but insist on being paid for it being happy to turn on management, particularly as Ita stated (never acted on) the claim that a program where permanently aggrieved wymminses applauded the abolition of law and declaration of war against men.

    Editorial independence and all that.

  132. Infidel Tiger

    New York Post

    Verified account

    @nypost

    Britain’s ‘first gay dads’ split after one starts dating daughter’s ex https://trib.al/lgZXala

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Sure, but I blame the army for not being harsh during basic training. They are sending civilians to war and it breaks them.’

    +1

  134. Roger

    Gladys says spring bushfires are a “huge wake up call” for NSW.

    What she plans to do now that she’s awake – repeal of absurd “10/50” tree and vegetation clearing laws for those in the bush? – was not reported.

  135. JC

    One of Australia’s most famous pubs, The Beach Hotel in Byron Bay, has been snapped up by investment bankers for just over $100m, setting a new record for Australian watering holes.

    Developed by Paul Hogan’s sidekick John ‘Strop’ Cornell in the 1990s, the property has been bought by listed investment bank Moelis Australia to put into a new investment fund to be backed by wealthy investors. It will control both the real estate freehold and operating business.

    The pub was sold by Impact Investment Group, which owned the freehold, and Melbourne restaurateurs and hospitality figures John and Lisa van Haandel, who owned the business side. The contest to buy the pub drew the country’s wealthiest publicans and property investors.
    Read Next

    Mr Cornell built the Bay Street hotel in 1990 for about $9m. Since then, the once laid-back NSW township of Byron Bay has gained a touch of Hollywood allure, with film stars Matt Damon, Chris Hemsworth and Margot Robbie forming ties in the area.

    It sounds like a huge growth rate, however the compound rate of return is ~8.7%. It’s not bad, but certainly not spectacular.

  136. Boambee John

    jupes at 1508

    FYI, Australia didn’t execute a single soldier in WW1, nor did they allow the Brits to execute Australians.

    The Kiwis executed two Australian born soldiers serving in the NZEF in WW I, Privates John Sweeney and John King.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    FYI, Australia didn’t execute a single soldier in WW1, nor did they allow the Brits to execute Australians.

    Military law at the time, provided for the death penalty for certain offences, but, alone among the Dominions, Australia required any death sentences passed on their soldiers to be reviewed by the Governor General. He commuted over a hundred death sentences to a prison sentence.

  138. Muddy

    Boambee John
    #3214802, posted on November 18, 2019 at 10:24 am

    Muddy

    Thanks, B.J. It has been entered.
    I hope to have the latest post ready by this weekend.

  139. Snoopy

    One of Australia’s most famous pubs, The Beach Hotel in Byron Bay

    Never heard of it.

    /CL

  140. Rex Mango

    ‘Sure, but I blame the army for not being harsh during basic training. They are sending civilians to war and it breaks them.’

    +2

    IT, that two dads story is wrong on so many levels, like he had his daughter’s boyfriend working as PA for him for 7 years & then dated him, but what is worse that if I criticised their living arrangements at work I would be Izzy Folau’d quicker than a mardi gras congo line.

  141. jupes

    The Kiwis executed two Australian born soldiers serving in the NZEF in WW I, Privates John Sweeney and John King.

    Kiwi pricks.

  142. Helen

    All hail computer geeks!

    My Avast INternet Security top of the range 3 PC subscription is about to expire($75.00 for 2 years offer) and I was wondering if anyone out there has a better suggestion?

  143. jupes

    like he had his daughter’s boyfriend working as PA for him for 7 years & then dated him,

    Is “dated” the current euphemism for sodomised?

  144. Tel

    Bribe.
    Lend.
    Default (which was pre-ordained at the Bribe-Lend phase)
    Foreclose.
    Claim collateral assets which are worth 3 – 4 times the original loan.

    The American banking empire has done their share of the same, so it’s yet another Chinese knock off copy of a well tested system. Heck, the IMF was pretty much designed for the purpose of doing exactly what you describe there.

    Probably should give honourable mention to earlier British expansion in the 18th and 19th century for some earlier prototype: trade with one hand then bribe/lend/default with the other hand and fall back to the Royal Marines when the other side got stroppy about it.

  145. Farmer Gez

    I comb my hair and it pulls on my ears, and if I’m not on the ball, my nostrils hairs spring out on exhaling like a squid grasping at prey.

    Nostril hair only tickles at the dentist or at funerals. It’s an unwritten law.

  146. notafan

    Just wait until the divorce

    I assume Saffron is Barrie’s daughter

    and the ‘girlfriend boyfriend’ thing appears to be slightly exaggerated

    The three youngest were iirc the ultimate in designer babies, they approached a Brazilian model they liked the look of and bought some of her eggs

  147. My Avast INternet Security top of the range 3 PC subscription is about to expire…

    I haven’t used a PC security product for a loooong time.
    Instead I practice safe computer. I don’t exchange unprotected files with people I don’t know well.

  148. feelthebern

    China has just taken over Kenya’s ports after they defaulted on a loan.

    China’s loan-to-own strategy will be too successful.
    They are the Oaktree of nation states.

  149. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    One of Australia’s most famous pubs, The Beach Hotel in Byron Bay
    Never heard of it.

    Originally built by Strop and his delectable wife, the delicious Delvene Delaney.

  150. feelthebern

    Probably should give honourable mention to earlier British expansion in the 18th and 19th century for some earlier prototype: trade with one hand then bribe/lend/default with the other hand and fall back to the Royal Marines when the other side got stroppy about it.

    Tell me how what the Chinese are doing now is any different to the East India Company?

  151. notafan

    Tony adds: ‘Barrie and I will never split up. We’re soulmates. But also we’d never do that to our children because of the pain it would cause.’

    half siblings everywhere

    apparently

    Portrait of a 21st Century family: Meet Britain’s first gay dads and their twins Aspen and Saffron, who say the mind-bogglingly tangled biological web behind their birth is TOTALLY normal

  152. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The American banking empire has done their share of the same, so it’s yet another Chinese knock off copy of a well tested system.

    +100 Tel.
    The Chinese are excellent mimics.

  153. Mother Lode

    One of Australia’s most famous pubs, The Beach Hotel in Byron Bay

    Wouldn’t even need a lock on the door.

    The people inside so satisfied with themselves would have no reason to step outside and talk the little people, and the little people outside would not want to go into a pub full of pretentious wankers.

  154. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    We could also ask the Hawaiians just when they “decided” to become the 50th state.

  155. Snoopy

    1959.

    Out of a total population of 600,000 in the islands and 155,000 registered voters, 140,000 votes were cast, the highest turnout ever in Hawaii. The vote showed approval rates of at least 93% by voters on all major islands. Of the approximately 140,000 votes cast, fewer than 8,000 rejected the Admission Act of 1959.

  156. johanna

    struth
    #3214928, posted on November 18, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    Bloody hell, If I drink a few glasses of red I wake up at 3 in the morning these days , on the dot.
    Then I wait for Tom’s cartoons because sleep isn’t an option.

    But alas no Red, I can even have scotch, and I’ll sleep straight through like a baby.

    But I love a good red.

    Funny you should mention that – red wine at night often has the same effect on me. It disrupts sleep, and as you say, Scotch does not.

    As for glasses, I got my first pair of magnifying glasses ($10) when I was about 50, and am still on them. I daresay my vision would be a bit better if I got prescription ones, but the cheapos work just fine.

    Most importantly, don’t get on the medical merry-go-round. You know, tests, drugs, the whole ‘just in case’ scenario. If you do, you will wind up with a bunch of prescriptions to ‘prevent’ something or other, and another bunch to counteract the effects of the first lot.

    Rock on!

  157. jupes

    According to the ABC, Americans are too dumb to understand the Mueller report:

    She feared Robert Mueller’s report into Russian election meddling would be too convoluted for voters to understand and she was not convinced the Commander-in-Chief had committed an offence that warranted early removal from office.

    On the contrary, they understood it too well. After over two years and $30 mil of investigation, there was precisely zero evidence that Trump “colluded” with the Russians.

  158. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Nice Wikipedia version of Hawai’s annexation, Snoopy.
    Now you might like to go look up a version NOT written by the victors.

  159. JC

    Get a load of the expression on her face. It’s contempt.
    Caption underneath the pics says.

    I married a dickhead.

  160. feelthebern

    Chloe is not a smart person.

  161. Arky

    Malcolm Turnbull: Still a legend in his own mind.

  162. Zippy:
    Re your clip about rare earths and the Chinese destruction of the world industry by dumping its own product, isn’t dumping illegal under the WTO?
    And wouldn’t it be a good idea for Australia to have a stockpile of these essential minerals, you know, just in case?
    🙂

  163. Snoopy

    Nice Wikipedia version of Hawai’s annexation, Snoopy.
    Now you might like to go look up a version NOT written by the victors.

    Knock yourself out, MV. Looking forward to your post.

  164. dover_beach

    Britain’s ‘first gay dads’ split after one starts dating daughter’s ex

  165. Arky

    The Kiwis executed two Australian born soldiers

    ..
    Sounds like they deserved it.
    What did they do?

  166. max

    Winston Smith
    #3214860, posted on November 18, 2019 at 11:49 am

    the South China Sea.

    I give it 2 years max.

    What would be the objectives in a war against China ? Regime change ?

  167. Arky

    What would be the objectives in a war against China ?

    ..
    Dismemberment.

  168. Snoopy

    Say what you like about Malcolm Turnbull but you can’t deny he always has a good grasp of reality and never holds a grudge.

  169. max

    Postwar, the Australian economy will be f**ked.

  170. Lotocoti:

    Mass and a willingness to accept casualties will win it for the PLA(N).
    The political cost for the US if they lost a single CVN would be massive.
    Both domestic and international.

    Just one single nuclear tipped torpedo of 400Kt would destroy a US Carrier Fleet. No one could be sure where it was launched from, therefore it has plausible deniability from the Chinese government. This will lower the threshold for use.

  171. johanna

    Helen
    #3214956, posted on November 18, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    All hail computer geeks!

    My Avast INternet Security top of the range 3 PC subscription is about to expire($75.00 for 2 years offer) and I was wondering if anyone out there has a better suggestion?

    Helen, if you are using MicroSatan, no need to do anything. Their inbuilt Defender has kept me free of bugs and malware right up to today. The updates are annoying, but they don’t cost a zac.

    Of course, it helps if you don’t frequent dodgy sites, like pron, but I’m sure you are OK on that score.

    If you are using Apple – I have no idea.

  172. dover_beach

    notafan, Barrie runs a surrogacy clinic in the UK. Interesting pic in the other article. The surrogate was clearly not a wealthy lady. This takes the cake however:

    Barrie said that while Tony is his “true love” the two grew romantically distant in recent years with the two sleeping in separate bedrooms.

    That coupled with Tony’s deteriorating health following a 2006 cancer diagnosis led them to drift “into a platonic relationship.”

    What a scumbag.

  173. Infidel Tiger

    Postwar, the Australian economy will be f**ked.

    Any economy that relies on a fascist state to exist deserves to be smashed.

  174. Bruce of Newcastle

    Admission Act of 1959.

    Importantly:

    Greek-Canadian Sam Panopoulos claimed that he created the first Hawaiian pizza at the Satellite Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, Canada in 1962.

    So no truth in the rumour that Capt. Cook was murdered for suggesting they put pineapple on pizza.

    Hawaiian pizza wiki

  175. feelthebern

    RGIII played today.

  176. max

    Dismemberment.

    Western countries doesn’t have the cojones for that.

  177. Max:

    What would be the objectives in a war against China ? Regime change ?

    For us, it would be sheer survival.
    The goal would be debellation of China.

  178. feelthebern

    There will be no hot war with China.

  179. JC

    feelthebern
    #3214998, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    There will be no hot war with China.

    Lol, who’s on the march here, as I haven’t read upthread?

  180. cohenite

    There will be no hot war with China.

    Vietnam would disagree with you. This box head currently running china looks a lot like the nork mutant; so anything is on the table I suspect. It all depends on whether Trump wins 2020 and the chinks run out of soft stooges elsewhere in the West.

  181. notafan

    DB

    despite the surrogacy business I suspect Tony holds the purse strings with his US based dermatology? interests

    I’m sure the UK Sun will be watching divorce filings with great eagerness

    but like you said

    they obviously left the in sickness bit out of their vows

  182. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Postwar, the Australian economy will be f**ked.

    We don’t need a war for that.
    We’re managing quite well all by ourselves, thank you very much.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    There will be no hot war with China.

    Pity.

    They would be absolutely annihilated.

  184. feelthebern

    Vietnam would disagree with you.

    Those fuckers have been skirmishing for the last 1000 years.

  185. feelthebern

    If the Chinese stopped buying shit WA digs up, Perth would resemble a settlement from The Walking Dead.

  186. JC

    Pity.

    They would be absolutely annihilated.

    I went to a lecture at the University club in NYC about 5 years ago and listened on an old China hand who was ambassador a few times for various admins in the 80s and 90s. He was a career diplomat.

    Anyways, from vague memory China shares borders with 14 countries. I think the fuckers have had some sort of conflagration with all 14 of them since WW2. They haven’t one won of them. Every one, except NK, despise the Chinese regime.

  187. lotocoti

    Just one single nuclear tipped torpedo of 400Kt would destroy a US Carrier Fleet

    Light off a low yield special munition near a CVN in Sydney Harbour and the entire USN would be out of the force projection business.
    Even if the US government proved it wasn’t a weapon or reactor accident, every ‘wang in the world would be screaming for the dismantling of the USN.

  188. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    If the Chinese stopped buying shit WA and QLD digs up, Perth Australia would resemble a settlement from The Walking Dead.

    FIFY

  189. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    There’s something weird going on.

    It’s called “protein”.

  190. JC

    If the Chinese stopped buying shit WA digs up, Perth would resemble a settlement from The Walking Dead.

    Lol Our exports are fucking massive. Our trade surplus with China is also fucking massive. If we suddenly stopped trading with them the Aussie would be teetering at 20Cents to the US Dollar looking to go lower.
    Exports Imports Total
    2018 136,287 78,321 214,608

    If we stopped, we would have to be sending food parcels from the east to WA.

  191. feelthebern

    Their protein intake is up.
    It is not weird at all.

  192. johanna

    Just checked the teev guide and I find that SBS broadcasts a US opinion show fronted by lifelong Democrat and former Clinton mouthpiece, George Stephanopoulos. Meanwhile, the Seven network runs the NBC today show plus its godawful Meet the Press segment, which has never found a bad Democrat or a good Republican worth putting on TV.

    Meanwhile, TheirABC routinely runs stories about the ‘chaotic’ White House. That is their favoured description. Last week, their online outlet ran a piece that ‘explained’ why Donald Trump should be impeached.

    Why is nobody running Fox? Even though it is getting more and more milquetoast, thanks to the watered down Rupert gene, Tucker would be entertaining and interesting to a lot of viewers. C’mon, Sky!

  193. feelthebern

    sending food parcels from the east to WA.

    We’ll send IT only the worst beer from the east.
    Hope you like Tooheys New IT.

  194. cohenite

    It’s called “protein”.

    Have you seen their knees. I was in Hawaii recently and the Chinese and japs had the bowiest legs and knockiest knees I have seen. The women were very pretty but very tall. And none of them kept to their side of the footpath.

  195. cohenite

    at 4’10” anyone looks tall to you.

    You still look up to me head prefect.

  196. feelthebern

    Jeez, cohenite.
    I get it now, you’re cracking gags.

  197. JC

    Tucker would be entertaining and interesting to a lot of viewers. C’mon, Sky!

    I saw him entering Sant Ambroeus, an expensive Madison Ave restaurant on the upper East Side.

    I could not get over the dude’s head size. It is freaking massive. That’s the first thing that strikes you about him. Just how big his head is…. psychically. Yuge.

    Also, I thought he looked a little under dressed for the joint. Sure, it was Saturday evening, but he looked like he was in his regular home weekend attire about to just go out for a walk. He even had sneakers on.

  198. dover_beach

    they obviously left the in sickness bit out of their vows

    Outside of the sacrament there are no vows. What particularly irks me is his claim that Tony is his ‘true love’ and yet he is having an affair, has been for years, with his daughter’s ex, while in the same house as the rest of his ‘family’. How much further down the rabbit hole must we go?

  199. 8th Dan

    We watched ‘The Battle of Britain’ followed by ‘Cross of Iron’ on Foxtel the other nite

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

  200. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Their protein intake is up.

    Yes, that’s why they are getting bigger.
    Which is what Cohenite asked about (why are they getting bigger – which he thought was weird).
    Which is what I was responding to.

  201. bespoke

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    So what? 😎

  202. Infidel Tiger

    We nuked the Japs and they bought heaps of our stuff.

    I see no reason not to nuke China.

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of plausible deniability the following story was entertaining.

    Iran decries ‘cowardly attack’ on oil tanker (12 Oct)

    No one ever fessed up for doing it, and apart from blaming the usual suspects (ie. Israel) the Iranians never seem to’ve worked out who did it.

    But the mysterious attacks on Saudi and UAE tankers stopped, which suggests the mullahs worked out that the Saudis could afford to buy new ones much more easily than skint Iranians could.

    I wonder how much damage a 400 kT mysterious nuclear accident off Shanghai port would cause?

  204. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    I drove a car today.

  205. JC

    Talking about big heads…. Another dude I saw was Captain Kirk on a plane from London to Sardinia. Kind of funny, Captain Kirk getting on a regular plane. Chris Pine also has a huge freaking head.

    Is a big head a requirement for male movie actors/ TV personalities? Maybe not a requirement, but an advantage or something? I know they (movie actors) shouldn’t be too tall because they look lopsided against the sheilas, but what about huge heads?

  206. Pete of Perth

    Why drink Tooheys New when we have Swan Gold?

  207. dover_beach

    Tucker would be great because he isn’t representative of Conservative Inc. He would break the stereotypes in which conventional newsrooms, etc. want to characterize conservatives.

  208. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    I had coffee before work.

  209. I guess its been a long time since the last decent size war.
    People forget.

    It is a mistake to assume rationality in the “goto war” process.

    Tyrant ✅
    Capability ✅
    Surprise ✅
    Appeasing adversary – maybe

  210. cohenite

    You’re such a pinhead head prefect.

  211. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    Christmas is on the 25th December.

  212. JC

    Speaking of free to air… Foxtel lost around $400 million last year and I think they are potentially fucked, which is a good thing. I despise them.

    There’s what’s called FIOS and YouTubeTV in the US now, or at least in NYC. We have YouTube TV for all the secondary channels and it carries tons of channels for 30 bucks a month, which can be connected to other TVs around the house. You simply add in the other services you want like HBO, Showtime etc.

    The equivalent of Foxtel is rooted.

    Both FIOS and YouTubeTV are streaming services so you don’t need a huge box to carry the load. All you need is a Spectrum box for the internet.

    How long before say YouTube begins streaming here? One of the saddest things I’ve seen is that Foxtel carries Netflix on their system if you buy one of their advanced boxes. I can’t wait to see them gonsky.

    Foxtel is going down.

  213. johanna

    Yup, Dover, a lot of Australians would relate to Tucker.

    As for the big head thing, it has been noted since the beginning of film. Stars like Charlie Chaplin had heads that were disproportionately large. It works on film, for some reason.

    BTW, news is that the Ford/Ferrari movie is raking it in, while the ‘woke’ Charlie’s Angels is as popular as Pepe Le Pew.

  214. feelthebern

    Julia Bishop is now an Audi ambassador.
    Time to cease my support.

  215. notafan

    Sorry DB

    Fauxvows it is

  216. JC

    cohenite
    #3215033, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    You’re such a pinhead head prefect.

    Dude, I’m not kidding. Carlson’s head is enormous.

  217. dover_beach

    Sorry DB

    Sorry notafan, I didn’t mean to sound brusque.

  218. 8th Dan

    a lot of Australians would relate to Tucker

    A dozen old people from Catallaxy watching does not equate to ratings success.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    Julia Bishop is now an Audi ambassador.
    Time to cease my support.

    An Audi has more genuine parts than her.

  220. Boambee John

    Arky
    #3214983, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:07 pm
    The Kiwis executed two Australian born soldiers

    ..
    Sounds like they deserved it.
    What did they do?

    Sentenced for desertion, probably while exhausted or shell-shocked.

    NZ sentenced 28 soldiers to death, five born in Australia. Five were executed, two born in Australia.

  221. JC

    A dozen old people from Catallaxy watching does not equate to ratings success.

    Whereas the young find CNN and CNBC more attractive and attuned to their political views. Says a lot.

  222. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    My car has four wheels.

  223. max

    Northern Chinese are different to Southern. Boobs, for a start. Not sure about taller, but could be.

    It’s interesting how everyone hates each other in Asia. The Japs deserve it after WWII and the Chinks haven’t forgotten. Even the poor Filipinos look down their flat noses at the Indonesians.

  224. notafan

    Keep em coming bespoke 🙂

  225. JC

    MSNBC not CNBC..

    Get a load of CNN and MSNBC’s ratings compared to Fox. Also look at Tucker’s ratings against the lineup at the other two dunnies. It’s hysterical.

    If CNN didn’t have the captive audiences at US airports you could just close it down as no one cares.

    https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/scoreboard-thursday-nov-14/421357/

  226. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    I have a QWERTY keyboard.

  227. Infidel Tiger

    The Chinks have filled our homes with terribly made crap.

    In return we have given them heart disease and diabetes.

  228. bespoke

    8th Dan
    #3215022, posted on November 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Both were on free to air TV last week.

    It is dry when it is not wet.

  229. Boambee John

    China’s potential weakness in a major conflict is an ingrained tendency to warlordism/secession by force of arms.

    I wonder are the Chinese smart enough to realise that regardless of 70 years of communist rule, it would be wise to station troops well away from their home province.

  230. Boambee John

    Another problem is a carry over from around 40 years of the one-child policy.

    Except for rural peasants from the backblocks, where central control is probably a bit weak, pretty much every male of prime military age is an only child. The Chinese devotion to family makes the potential ending of a family line a sensitive issue, the kind of issue that could cause internal problems if high personnel losses occur.

  231. lotocoti

    China’s potential weakness …

    Going a bit overboard megadeath-wise with every regime/dynasty change is the Celestial Empire’s one endearing feature.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Chinks have filled our homes with terribly made crap.
    In return we have given them heart disease and diabetes.

    Fair’s fair.
    The Chinese mecantilist model is now even pissing off Germans.

    German firms in China: A quarter are ‘planning to leave’ (12 Nov)

    Nearly a quarter of German companies operating in China are planning to relocate all or part of their business out of the Asian country, according to a study released Tuesday by the German Chamber of Commerce in China.

    The annual survey of 526 member firms in China found that 23% of them have either already decided to withdraw production capacity from the country or are considering it. A third of those companies have planned to leave China entirely.

    The rest say they will transfer part of their business and production overseas, largely to lower-cost countries in Asia.

    They blame the US-China spat and increased wages in China, but I suspect the bad treatment of whitey and the industrial espionage/knock off issue is also behind it. Having your executives arrested because Beijing wants a pawn is also an irritation.

    Thirteen Canadians have been detained in China since Huawei executive’s arrest, says Ottawa (3 Jan)

    What’s the exchange rate for Chinese vs German businessmen these days?

  233. Helen

    Im still on windows 7 joh, defender only kicks in at 8.1

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