Open Forum: November 23, 2019

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  1. Snoopy

    Like the Australian political set & the public service, the corporate set is over paid & uninspiring.

    Imagine where we’d be without the Australian Institute of Company Directors.

  2. JC

    The new chair of Westpac will be a lady.
    The new CEO of Westpac will be a lady.
    Both will be external appointments.

    They had one. She was useless and I mean tits on a bull useless.

  3. feelthebern

    Some of the smartest Aussies I’ve come across are working in non-China Asia.
    There to make a fvck ton of money & move on.

  4. Knuckle Dragger

    Muddy,

    What you’re describing at 10.26 is civilisation.

    They’re still pulling bits of it from the ME from over 5000 years ago. Someone upthread mentioned the Poms as being mad collectors of that shit, and whoever it was was bang on.

    All the stories from the escaped convicts from the First and Second Fleets who hooked up with the indig for months at a time before being found or going back are either wrong, or they’ve each been unlucky enough to find a tribe that hadn’t developed the McMansion with spa and jetski yet.

  5. feelthebern

    Yep, but it’s the way of things JC.

  6. Snoopy

    The new chair of Westpac will be a lady.
    The new CEO of Westpac will be a lady.
    Both will be external appointments.

    Neither will hold more than a handful of WBC shares.

  7. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #3245880, posted on November 26, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    One of my regrets is not taking an opportunity to work overseas.
    I was offered a gig in South Africa as a stepping stone to London or HK.
    I was a pussy/idiot & turned it down.
    I feel like Tony Soprano’s dad not leaving Jersey for Las Vegas.

    It can be a hard decision FtBern but in the end, for most, it turns out as the right decision.
    Not always but most of the time.

    For me it was made easier by the inevitable mining slump at the time we keep getting periodically, never looked back since.

  8. dover_beach

    Yes, he was an apostle, but he didn’t write the Gospel of John

    It’s amazing that the quote you provide no more than speculates and yet you definitively deny that John the Apostle didn’t write the Gospel of John. Quite amazing.

  9. classical_hero

    Since the Aborigines are such inventive people, why are they relying so much upon us whites?

  10. feelthebern

    I thought you were black, classical.

  11. dover_beach

    Ignore the double negative: deny that John the Apostle wrote…

  12. classical_hero

    The Gospel of John has plenty in it to show it was written by someone close to Jesus. I bet Juan also believes that Daniel was written in the 2nd century BC.

  13. feelthebern

    LOL.
    The Wallabies “behaved poorly” in Japan.
    Raelene Castle apologises.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    Heh.

    Good one bern.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Waleed Ali and Abdul el Magpie (or whatever she is called).

  16. Leigh Lowe

    (Nominations for chair and CEO of Westpac).

  17. DrBeauGan

    Aboriginal culture is collectivist, and the collective punishes inventive individuals and rewards conformity.

    There are plenty of individual aborigines who are rejecting collectivism. They are being punished by lefties, white lefties. They deserve our support.

  18. Rex Mango

    JC, that quote above from Nozick, I did jurisprudence a while ago and the lecturer loved John Rawls and preached his gospel big time. All about a rational way to justify altruism, or socialism. Anyways, he would use Nozick to buttress his claims about the genius of Rawls etc, but never took Nozick seriously.

  19. Juan

    John was very likely a disciple, the one that remained with Our Lady at the foot of the Cross while the others disappeared despairing. As for John’s Gospel being all about ‘feels’, I don’t think anyone that has read it with any care could say such a thing. Christ pulled no punches when he asked Peter, “Do you love me more than these?”, in fact asked him three times, the allusions here being obvious, and foretold Peter’s sacrifice.

    As mentioned previously: yes, he was an apostle, but he didn’t write the Gospel of John:

    Although the Gospel is ostensibly written by St. John the Apostle, “the beloved disciple” of Jesus, there has been considerable discussion of the actual identity of the author. The language of the Gospel and its well-developed theology suggest that the author may have lived later than John and based his writing on John’s teachings and testimonies. Moreover, the facts that several episodes in the life of Jesus are recounted out of sequence with the Synoptics and that the final chapter appears to be a later addition suggest that the text may be a composite. The Gospel’s place and date of composition are also uncertain; many scholars suggest that it was written at Ephesus, in Asia Minor, about 100 ce for the purpose of communicating the truths about Christ to Christians of Hellenistic background.

    And “feels” was my lighthearted way of conveying For the majority of Christian history, John has been looked at as being a “spiritual Gospel” that supplemented the more historical presentation of the Synoptics.

  20. feelthebern

    There’s some Scottish bird being spoken about for the WBC chair role.
    Can’t remember her name.
    Battle axe.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Mango

    #3245872, posted on November 26, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    Just watching the crucial third act in Colonel Blimp and realised it is the inspiration for the Dad’s Army tv series twenty odd years later.

    So Colonel Blimp is a separate show from Michael Moore?
    I just thought people were being unkind about the fact that there is more of Moore every time he rolls around.

  22. Rex Mango

    Re the Aussie grandma in Malaysia, methinks her gender might have had something to do with her not riding the wooden horse like Barlow and Chambers.

  23. Rex Mango

    Leigh L, the Life and Death of Colonel Blimp is a work of genius, filmed during WW2 that is perhaps second only to Pressburger/Powell’s film I Know Where I’m Going, also 1940s flick.

  24. classical_hero

    Bern, by the one drop rule, I’m Dhuish. My maternal grandmother, had one grandparent who was one of them, so if she lived in Germany would have been sent to a camp. Thankfully she was born in Australia at the time.

  25. Rex Mango

    Re Aussie grandma in Malaysia, you might also have to think about a lot of these countries getting a bit nervous about China right now.

  26. DrBeauGan

    Re the Aussie grandma in Malaysia, methinks her gender might have had something to do with her not riding the wooden horse like Barlow and Chambers.

    Any chance of a feminist protest against the decision?

  27. Juan

    Re the Aussie grandma in Malaysia, methinks her gender might have had something to do with her not riding the wooden horse like Barlow and Chambers.

    And the passing of more 30 years; and the fact Mahathir wants to be seen to be the nice guy in 2019, instead of the tough guy role he relished in 1986.

  28. classical_hero

    https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/gospel-of-john-commentary-who-wrote-the-gospel-of-john-and-how-historical-is-it/

    The author of John also knew Jerusalem well, as is evident from the geographic and place name information throughout the book. He mentions, among others, the Sheep Gate Pool (Bethesda), the Siloam Pool and Jacob’s Well. The geographic specificity lends credence to the John’s account.

    The author of the gospel of John shows intimate details of the life of Christ that only someone in his inner circle could have known.

  29. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Mango

    #3245911, posted on November 26, 2019 at 10:56 pm

    Leigh L, the Life and Death of Colonel Blimp

    Ha, ha.
    I know of it but I genuinely thought someone had dubbed Michael Moore the Blimp.

  30. C.L.

    Ahoy, Dover.
    You asked me a question about maybe writing about something on a thread earlier this week. I meant to respond and then time, the main page and its posts got away from me. My apologies.

  31. hzhousewife

    The new chair of Westpac will be a lady.
    The new CEO of Westpac will be a lady.
    Both will be external appointments.

    Neither will hold more than a handful of WBC shares.

    And after a month or so, they may not talk to each other………… or anyone else.

  32. dover_beach

    As mentioned previously: yes, he was an apostle, but he didn’t write the Gospel of John:

    As mentioned above, your quote is merely speculating. And it runs counter to near contemporaries that accepted its authenticity immediately, beginning with Ignatius of Antioch in the first decade of the second century.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3245908, posted on November 26, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    There’s some Scottish bird being spoken about for the WBC chair role.
    Can’t remember her name.
    Battle axe.

    They love selecting Scots for banking jobs.
    It projects an image of steady frugality.
    In reality, the individual could be totally useless, but no matter … we are just buying the soothing Scottish brogue.

  34. dover_beach

    Not at all, C.L., you have been prolific lately.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    John’s Gospel is fairly verbose and florid.
    I reckon the ghost writer was Bandana Man.

  36. Zyconoclast

    … Is there a lower tech method to protect grain from insects and rodents?

    Eat the insects and rodents?

  37. mh

    RBA latest

    Dr Lowe said QE would became an option once official interest rates had fallen to 0.25 per cent but negative rates were “extraordinarily unlikely”. The most likely form of quantitative easing would be the purchase of government bonds.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/not-on-our-agenda-rba-says-qe-is-doa-20191126-p53ebo.html

  38. Armadillo

    Jesus didn’t write many letters to anyone. At least none that I can think of.

  39. Juan

    https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/gospel-of-john-commentary-who-wrote-the-gospel-of-john-and-how-historical-is-it/

    The author of John also knew Jerusalem well, as is evident from the geographic and place name information throughout the book. He mentions, among others, the Sheep Gate Pool (Bethesda), the Siloam Pool and Jacob’s Well. The geographic specificity lends credence to the John’s account.

    The author of the gospel of John shows intimate details of the life of Christ that only someone in his inner circle could have known.

    Allow me to quote from the resource you cited:

    Matthew and Luke follow the version of events in Mark, which is thought by scholars to be the earliest and most historically accurate Gospel. John, however, does not include the same incidents or chronology found in the other three Gospels, and the fact that it is so different has spurred a debate over whether John’s Gospel is historical or not, something that has been noted in Gospel of John commentary for hundreds—even thousands—of years.

    Several hypotheses have attempted to explain why so much of Jesus’ life not portrayed in the Synoptics is present in John and vice versa. One hypothesis claims that John recorded many of the events that occurred before the arrest of John the Baptist, while the Synoptics all have Jesus’ ministry beginning only after the arrest. Another holds that John was written last, by someone who knew about the other three Gospels, but who wished to write a spiritual gospel instead of an historical one. This would mean that the person who wrote the Gospel of John would not have been a contemporary of Jesus, and therefore would not have been an eyewitness as the author claims. There is also the possibility that the author of John did not know of Mark and hence did not have the same information.

    Exactly what I was saying!

  40. Leigh Lowe

    Armadillo

    #3245929, posted on November 26, 2019 at 11:23 pm

    Jesus didn’t write many letters to anyone. At least none that I can think of.

    Wait on.
    Australia Post are still sorting them.

  41. Rex Mango

    Juan, there are as yet a lot of Dead Sea Scrolls in pottery waiting to be discovered in the Middle East that could solve your problems about synaptic gospels and the like.

  42. C.L.

    That bloke is gifted. I loved the switch from Ireland to N. Ireland.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The new chair of Westpac will be a lady.
    The new CEO of Westpac will be a lady.’

    A fortnight before they’re tearing each other down while the other isn’t there.

    Three weeks before the entire boardroom’s full of for-and-against. Battle lines will be drawn for the upcoming war.

    Four weeks. Rival cliques will have unfriended each other on social media, aside from the belligerents posting food from the restaurant they and their allies went to, and which one is cooler.

    Six weeks. Rivals anonymously send each other catalogues for XXXXL size ladeeeee fashion, corsets and adult nappies.

    Six weeks and Friday. Both protagonists wear the same outfit to a networking do. Ground Zero.

    The new chair of Westpac will be a man.
    The new CEO of Westpac will be a man.

    Order will slowly be restored.

  44. Black Ball

    There are plenty of individual aborigines who are rejecting collectivism. They are being punished by lefties, white lefties. They deserve our support.

    Yes indeed Dr Beaugan. Only need look at Jacinta Price. Stray from the narrative and you are branded as a coconut for having the temerity to have different views. I have been labelled a traitor because of my admiration for President Trump. I have challenged those who smear me why President Trump is a racist, no answers forthcoming. Conformity is king as you say.

  45. Lazlo

    They had one. She was useless..

    Well JC, at least Kelly did not drive Westpac to near extinction like Conroy and co in the late 80s, and there were no shitstorms like today under her helm.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3245933, posted on November 26, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    The dude nails every single accent

    Pretty good.
    I always reserve judgement until they do Strayan accent.
    I thought Meryl Streep was great at accents until a dingo got her bay-bee.

  47. dover_beach

    All of that is speculative, Juan. And, again, as I said above, John’s Gospel was immediately accepted as authentic by the Christian community.

  48. classical_hero

    DB, even if we had zero manuscripts for the Bible, we still could get the Bible from the quotes of the church fathers, those being the disciples of the disciples of Christ.

  49. JC

    Laz

    She blew in from St George. The purchase of St G cost Wetpatch shareholders dearly because they overpaid for the trash. She did a great job of hiding all the warts. Also this so-called “shirtstorm” started under her watch.

    In any event, it’s not really a shitstorm, its another manufactured panic attack.

  50. classical_hero

    Juan, what you quoted was speculation. What I quoted was what John actually wrote. The article states that and the speculation around the gospel.

  51. Steve trickler

    Dutch gets the heads up via chat on Twitch. Quake in Albania. It took a while for it to appear on the mainstream EQ feeds.

    Piss weak whilst people are trapped in collapsed buildings. Dutch issued a warning for the area. It was within his forecast range.

    15 mins in.

    News coverage.



  52. Lazlo

    Get all that JC, but it pales into insignificance compared to the crash of 89 and the banks’ culpability by betting on property (again). That recession caused real hardship, the recession we had to have, which has been conveniently erased from leftist history.

  53. Armadillo

    It does seem a little odd that Jesus didn’t write to anyone.

  54. dover_beach

    His Dutch accent is perfect.

  55. Black Ball

    Watching a show called Facing. This show delves into the shady deals in the rap world, focussing mainly on Suge Knight. Quite an eye opener. Dr Dre remains king in my opinion.

  56. JC

    Laz

    Bank are leveraged around 15:1. Consequently they are extremely vulnerable to sudden downward spikes in asset prices. The recession we had to have was such an event and the cause of that was the RBA. It completely choked the economy, so it’s not any surprise you’d find banks getting into trouble.

  57. Arky

    Farage has gutted his hopes of gaining seats in the election.
    The candidates he has withdrawn are in seats in some of the strongest Leave parts of the country.
    Bloody stupid.

  58. Zyconoclast

    There’s some Scottish bird being spoken about for the WBC chair role.
    Can’t remember her name.
    Battle axe.

    If you want Scottish brogue, scroll down to the 44 second video of Nicola Sturgeon

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/AndrewNeil?src=hash

  59. Armadillo

    compared to the crash of 89 and the banks’ culpability by betting on property (again).

    LOL.

  60. Zyconoclast

    Farage has gutted his hopes of gaining seats in the election.
    The candidates he has withdrawn are in seats in some of the strongest Leave parts of the country.
    Bloody stupid.

    Gate keeper?
    Controlled opposition?

  61. Lazlo

    Sure JC, but that doesn’t mean much to the many people who lost their jobs in 1990. Just saying..

  62. JC

    Yea but the banks aren’t to blame if there’s an asset retrenchment.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3245955, posted on November 26, 2019 at 11:54 pm

    Farage has gutted his hopes of gaining seats in the election.
    The candidates he has withdrawn are in seats in some of the strongest Leave parts of the country.
    Bloody stupid.

    It seems he has done a deal with Boris.
    Withdraw from strong-ish Tory seats in exchange for concessions to accommodate UKIP policies.
    Run in strong Labour seats which might have a significant Brexit breakaway from Labour.
    Remembering it is a first past the post system.

  64. Arky

    So the best possible outcome that Britain can score is dickhead progressive mophead Boris with a small majority government containing probably enough establishment stooges to again deadlock Brexit, or at best sign off on a deal that locks the place into EU rules forever.
    Game over pommy idiots.

  65. Armadillo

    The candidates he has withdrawn are in seats in some of the strongest Leave parts of the country.

    Sarcasm? Why would he contest seats against supposed Conservatives and split the vote? That’s exactly how Tony Windsor got elected with the Liberal Party contesting a safe National seat.

  66. DrBeauGan

    Yes indeed Dr Beaugan. Only need look at Jacinta Price. Stray from the narrative and you are branded as a coconut for having the temerity to have different views. I have been labelled a traitor because of my admiration for President Trump. I have challenged those who smear me why President Trump is a racist, no answers forthcoming. Conformity is king as you say.

    I was thinking of the Prices in particular. Hang in there, BB. Stick up for what you believe is right, and never, ever, give in. Sod them all.

  67. Lazlo

    No single cause JC, though Keating tried to make it all his own work. Still at it re China!

    Ego Olympics: Keating, Rudd, Turnbull, it’s a tight race.

  68. Hazmatic

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3245145, posted on November 26, 2019 at 8:26 am
    If nothing else, Mr Matic’s overnight post enlightened some as to the possible reasons why a certain lightweight tried his best not to tell anyone in his own home town he was coming back from overseas.

    There may have been at least two diggers in the town who weren’t shy about dishing out a backhander or two to people who refused to pull their weight.

    This, of course, was before he ran away from demonstrating for his cause du jour when the wallopers turned up. In this day and age he’d be a more mincy version of XR, trying to glue himself to horses while yelling about the terrible Tesla charger deficit.

    Nail – Head.

    You might remember the yarn spun about attending the Springbok demonstration at the Tower Inn at Spring Hill?

    The day after Peter Beattie was towelled up by the Rozzers in Brisbane Dan O’Neill (perennial pest) and a Combi load of hippies took their Springbok protest to the next scheduled game at TOOWOOMBA!

    It was there that they met reality when they were given a flogging by the spectators. Apparently, the police considered it natural justice and did not intervene…

    That whole yarn reeks badly.

    Almost as badly as the “I was considered officer material but I showed them when I attached a hand drawn photo of Field Marshall Ky (sic) in a noose on my enlistment form”.

    My my. Hasn’t that yarn changed too.

    Here’s the original version of that ‘yarn’ from 2013. When the militaristic little recorder playing school cadet seemed quite chuffed to be in the running. Sadly no hand drawn photos were attached…

    Sniff. Hmmm.

  69. Arky

    Withdraw from strong-ish Tory seats in exchange for concessions to accommodate UKIP policies.
    Run in strong Labour seats which might have a significant Brexit breakaway from Labour.

    ..
    Example:
    Lincolnshire looks to me like it was one of the heaviest Leave voting counties in 2016, it has seven electorates, six are conservative holds.
    The fool has dealt himself out of his best chances.

  70. classical_hero

    https://tinyurl.com/vlo3l5d

    Those passions about the Isreal conflict are the most ignorant about the actual issues. This shows how brainwashed they are. It’s nothing to do with what they know but what is fashionable.

  71. Armadillo

    Banks are much closer to being bookmakers rather than being “punters”. Banks being culpable for the betting habits of the punters is ludicrous. They run a book. Having said that, bookmakers don’t get Government assistance when shit hits the fan (I.e winding in the odds and limiting exposure to a possible outcome).

  72. Steve trickler

    Admirable vocal cover of Lisa Gerrard. She invented the language of this song in her youth.



  73. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #3245970, posted on November 27, 2019 at 12:18 am

    How can so many students claim to care so deeply about a conflict that they know so little about?

    It’s feature not a bug.
    Care = Feelz facts get in the way.

  74. Black Ball

    How’s the bowls Armadillo?

  75. Armadillo

    Farange doesn’t give a rats arse about winning the UK election. His entire focus is on getting out of the EU.

    I think he sees himself as a future leader of an independent UK. You win a war by winning battles.

  76. Mark A

    Arky
    #3245969, posted on November 27, 2019 at 12:11 am

    Lincolnshire looks to me like it was one of the heaviest Leave voting counties in 2016, it has seven electorates, six are conservative holds.
    The fool has dealt himself out of his best chances.

    Politics is the often quoted art of the possible.
    Fragmenting the vote is not a good outcome.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Almost as badly as the “I was considered officer material but I showed them when I attached a hand drawn photo of Field Marshall Ky (sic) in a noose on my enlistment form”.

    Ky actually held the rank of Air Marshall, serving in the South Vietnamese Air Force.

  78. Armadillo

    How’s the bowls Armadillo?

    I’ve been bowling like a retarded red headed step child. Thanks for asking. At least you sound genuine with your question. The smug bastards at the club tend to smirk when asking the same. Arse clowns.

  79. Armadillo

    I’ve enlisted the neighbouring clubs “Club Champion” as our skip for tomorrow nights Ham triples. That should wipe the smile off their dials. Fingers crossed he doesn’t fuck up. I have all my sledges pre rehearsed.

  80. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Almost as badly as the “I was considered officer material but I showed them when I attached a hand drawn photo of Field Marshall Ky (sic) in a noose on my enlistment form”.

    I’m talking a few years later – the early 1970’s – but you were “officer material” if you had a Leaving Certificate. That qualified you to get into Portsea.

  81. Black Ball

    Well Arma I would blow smoke into those smug faces, on the green during the penultimate end with the match on the line. Then when you lose, you ride out the carpark a la Armand Tanzarian. And sign up for my club! 😂

  82. Mark A

    I’m absolutely stumped by the temerity of some merchants, I’ve been cheated buying stuff online.
    The same ad keeps coming up from the same outlet + under 10 other name.

    I keep warning people about the cheats. Within minutes the ads disappears only to reincarnate under a different name.
    The very same ad. Astonishing cheek.

  83. Hazmatic

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3245980, posted on November 27, 2019 at 12:56 am
    Almost as badly as the “I was considered officer material but I showed them when I attached a hand drawn photo of Field Marshall Ky (sic) in a noose on my enlistment form”.

    Ky actually held the rank of Air Marshall, serving in the South Vietnamese Air Force.

    Ky was for a short time, 65-67 Prime Minister of the RVN.

    When old mate submitted his enrolment forms in 1968 Ky was yesterdays man. In 1968 he was deputy.

    It’s the equivalent of like drawing a violent image of Micheal McCormack in 2020.

    Questions 1) and 1a). That’s a bit ANTIFA isn’t it? Fighting for peace is a bit like fucking for chastity surely?

    Question 2) WhoTF is Michael McCormack?

    With the ‘yarns’ you have two choices.

    Category 1) You can choose to not get things like facts and dates get in the road of the narrative.

    or Category 2) File it away under “things that did not happen”.

    Add that to.
    #Iwasthefirstmanonthebalconyatthetowermill.
    #IheardthebombingofCambodiathatsentpeoplemadandmadethemdogenocideandstuff.
    #Iwasariflemanforthemajorityofmytour. #MysectioncommandergaveittothepussersbecausehewasWestIndianandwellhard.
    #TheHuemassacrewascompletelyjustifiedbecauseMyLai
    #StuartRintoulshouldbebelievedbecausecommunistsneverdidanywarcrimeshonestbutAustraliansoldiersdidplenty.
    #ImexactlylikeRickfromtheyoungonesonlyofapensionableage
    #CommonsoldieryweremeantokidswatchingToKillaMockingbirdbutIputthemstraight
    #HalColebatchisanarseholebecausenoaircrewflyingVulteeVengenceswereexecutedbyJapaneseeveranytimewhichprovesthatunionsaretops.

    Have I missed anything?

  84. Armadillo

    And sign up for my club! 😂

    My character references will be far from glowing. I need to find a club with very low standards. I’m talking rock bottom standards.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Have I missed anything?

    “TheVietnamesepeoplewerepeasantslivingapeacefulbucholiclifebeforetheAmericanscametodestroyVietnam.

    TheVietnameseseekonly”freedomandindependence”whichtheUnitedStateswants topreventhemfomhaving.

    Nixonviolatedthe1954Genevaaccords

    IamveryhonouredtobeaguestinyourcountryandIloudlycondemnthecrimesthathavebeencomittedbytheU.S.GovernmentinthenameoftheAmericanpeopleagainstyourcountry.

    “Aid and Comfort – Jane Fonda in North Vietnam” Holzer and Holzer, pages 63 – 64. Sound like anyone we know?

  86. Armadillo

    Have I missed anything?

    Only the obvious fact that nUmbers is a full blown narcicist .

  87. Tom

    Many thanks, Hazmatic at 12.09am and 1.34am.

  88. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #3245991, posted on November 27, 2019 at 2:23 am

    You are tame mate.
    I expected some fire and brimstone on your return.
    You never even mentioned a wreck of an ancient Ford motor car.

  89. Mark A

    Tom
    #3246002, posted on November 27, 2019 at 4:14 am

    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).
    ???? no get.

  90. feelthebern

    Leak.
    The best, Tom. The best.

  91. Tom

    Mark A, the two characters in that Christian Adams ‘toon are Jacob Rees-Mogg and Theresa May. I think Adams has entered it in the 2019 Fleet Street cartoon of the year contest, which will be judged early in December.

  92. Mark A

    Tom
    #3246013, posted on November 27, 2019 at 4:56 am
    thnx

  93. Mark A

    February is a bummer for werewolfs.

    Did You Know?

    February, thanks to its already short length and leap days, has missed having a full moon several times in recorded history. In 1999, not only did February have no full moon, but the misalignment between the human calendar and the lunar calendar led to January and April each having two full moons.

  94. bespoke

    Top Ender
    #3245815, posted on November 26, 2019 at 8:49 pm
    Thanks to those who were commenting on the supposed “racist” angle of the WWII A-bombings. Here are some paragraphs I have been working up critiquing the argument. Apologies for the length – please scroll as necessary.

    I’ve come across this argument usually though social aquatints. Booked marked thanks.

  95. Juan

    Farange doesn’t give a rats arse about winning the UK election. His entire focus is on getting out of the EU.

    I think he sees himself as a future leader of an independent UK. You win a war by winning battles.

    One of many problems: he desires a peerage, to be elevated as Lord Farage, which would prevent him becoming PM.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Gimp is back!
    Leak has picked up what we here all know: Westpac is the one of the four with the most advanced case of SJW disease. I haven’t owned any of their shares for a decade or so. Returning to you know like actual banking would be a useful idea for Hartzer’s successor.

  97. Entropy

    Tom
    #3245993, posted on November 27, 2019 at 4:01 am
    Johannes Leak. Brilliant.

    Bloke probably should have been wearing sandals. Anda fluffy beard.

  98. Johno

    The temperature in sunny downtown Murrumbateman has just hit 3c. It was 2c when I awoke this morn at 5am. Stand by for appalling global warmening catastrophy apocalypse,and ice cream.

  99. stackja

    Senior beats up burglar
    ROCHESTER: An intruder in the US didn’t count on an 82-yearold woman living alone being a champion bodybuilder with nerves of steel.
    Willie Murphy was getting ready for bed at her home in Rochester, New York, when a man pounded on the door and said he needed an ambulance.
    When the man eventually broke in she clobbered him with a table, poured shampoo in his face and was beating him with a broom when police arrived at the home.
    “I was whaling on that man,” Murphy told reporters.
    “Cause I said to myself, ‘If it’s my time to go to hell, I’m taking him with me’.”
    Police said Willie was “tough as nails”.

  100. Farmer Gez

    We’re bringing in a NSW harvest contractor from Coleambally to help get the crop off. Wind has already knocked over sixty grand of grain on the ground and we’d rather pay for a quicker harvest than risk more loss.
    Trucks, bins, utes and men running everywhere and I’m doing my best to keep track of it all, plus decide how to market the grain at the same time. Canola is a sell and so is wheat but lentils, beans and barley may have a fair uplift in price as the markets are unsure of S&D at the moment.
    On top of that there’s a need for a big lump of cash to cover the the men and machines. Like most harvests, little disasters and big hopes all in one.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hehe, this one fits neatly with the Zac Rolfe murder charge:

    Meanwhile, remember how the left demanded that all police start wearing body cameras, because this would reveal the massive amounts of police brutality? Well, now some lefties are having second thoughts, probably because the expected results aren’t coming in. In fact, the opposite may be the case. So naturally now there are complaints that police body cams are “racist.” Newsweek (a former magazine), for example:

    Police Body Cameras Threaten the Civil Rights of Black and Brown People, New Report Says

    The number of U.S. police departments outfitting their officers with body cameras increases each year, but the cameras can pose a threat to civil rights if the departments fail to set rules that govern when officers review footage from their cameras, according to a new report.

    So there you go. Police were racist until they got bodycams, now they are racist for wearing bodycams. I wonder when NT plod will release the footage of Mr Walker?

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hehe, this one fits neatly with the Zac Rolfe murder charge:

    Meanwhile, remember how the left demanded that all police start wearing body cameras, because this would reveal the massive amounts of police brutality? Well, now some lefties are having second thoughts, probably because the expected results aren’t coming in. In fact, the opposite may be the case. So naturally now there are complaints that police body cams are “rac1st.” Newsweek (a former magazine), for example:

    Police Body Cameras Threaten the Civil Rights of Black and Brown People, New Report Says

    The number of U.S. police departments outfitting their officers with body cameras increases each year, but the cameras can pose a threat to civil rights if the departments fail to set rules that govern when officers review footage from their cameras, according to a new report.

    So there you go. Police were rac1st until they got bodycams, now they are rac1st for wearing bodycams. I wonder when NT plod will release the footage of Mr Walker?

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s the link for the story, which cause the spam monster to eat my first attempt:
    CIVIL WAR ON THE LEFT, CH. 70: WARREN AGONISTES

  104. Almost as badly as the “I was considered officer material but I showed them when I attached a hand drawn photo of Field Marshall Ky (sic) in a noose on my enlistment form”

    As usual, old mate AN-D has the bull by the foot.
    He/she/it has conflated two separate incidents in the hope of attracting some scraps from the usual suspects.
    I included a cutting of Marshall Ky with a hand-drawn noose around his neck with my registration for National Service.
    It appeared on my file when I fronted for my medical in Warwick. This extract from my book refers –

    My file was sitting on the table whilst I was waiting to see the Government Medical Officer during my medical, so I stole a glance whilst the clerk was having a toilet break.
    Carefully filed along with everything else, was a press clipping from “Time” magazine. For reasons that made sense back then, I’d taken a picture of Marshall Ky, (the South Vietnamese President at the time) from the magazine and added a drawing of a noose around his neck to make sure my opinion of Ky, our involvement in Vietnam, and the National Service process was clear.

    As far as Officer training was concerned, I was, like a few others in my rookies platoon, hauled off for an interview.
    It was a very short interview.
    One of the first questions was along the lines of “What do you think of the army and our commitment in Vietnam?”.
    I can’t remember exactly how I answered, but I have always told the truth, and the interview ended abruptly.
    These two incidents were months apart, and the first occured when I was a civilian in Warwick, and the second a recruit at Singleton.
    AN-D conflates them.
    He/she/it is not too good with detail, but is accomplished at smear. He/she/it is not an historian’s bootlace.
    He/she/it is still unable to do some basic checks to determine whether Doug Gibbons was a Duntroon graduate, or a Nasho officer ex Scheyville.
    He/she/it doesn’t know whether Frank Topp was marched into D Coy 6RAR the afternoon before the battle of Long Tan, or two weeks previously.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ok, the spam monster doesn’t like the link. It is Steven Hayward’s latest over at Powerline today.

  106. classical_hero

    Can we ignore the troll?

  107. Johno

    Poor old Sniffy, another mountain of lies exposed. Still he comes back with a blubbering mountain of excuses.

    You wanted to go SVN sniffy.You were going to write the great war book, weren’t you? But then reality bit you on the bum, naughty men go bang bang and you might have got hurt. Where would the world have been without your amazing intellect? So you bludged and whinged and moaned until the real soldiers got rid of you.

    Great war story sniffy,now go and write another tome of brilliance. You know you want to.

    Or you could just F.O.

  108. Old School Conservative

    Arma: I have all my spontaneous sledges pre rehearsed.

  109. calli

    Greetings from San Christobel.

    I have spent the morning walking around tumbled fields of lava stones, within an arm’s length of frigate birds, blue footed boobies, marine iguanas and sea lions. The sea is crystal clear and turquoise shading to jade when the clouds cover the sun. It is all breathtakingly beautiful.

    Sea lions serenaded me from the pier last night, and today our boat passed a young lady on a lookout playing her violin. There is a magic wrapped around these islands.

    I see there has been some discussion about John’s gospel. Oddly enough, I was thinking about his words as we motored through these pristine waters, getting close to animals that have no fear of humans.

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

    Made by love, with love and for love.

  110. John Constantine

    Shaun Marsh carries West Australia to victory against a reasonable Queensland attack in the final of the domestic one day competition.
    Marsh Cup.

  111. calli

    And if you’re speculating about the provenance of John’s gospel, study the letters.

    These are contemporary with the earliest days of the church, accepted as his. And the language and use of particular words and phrases are identical.

    That the gospel is different is because John was different.

  112. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the more perverted the greater the state protection
    ANTI-LGBT protests have been permanently banned from outside a Birmingham primary school, a judge has ruled today.

    The ban includes an exclusion zone surrounding the city’s Anderton Park Primary School which has been subjected to weeks of noisy demonstrations.

  113. Poor old Sniffy, another mountain of lies exposed.

    Post one.

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    Qwerty squid…

    Goldman Sachs Tells Employees: Use Transgender Pronouns to Become an ‘Ally’

    The company’s “diversity and inclusion” group posted the document on November 22, instructing employees to stop using pronouns which recognize the average biological, physiological, and psychological distinctions between men and women

    Sounds like their diversity and inclusion group is very like Westpac’s “social responsibility department”. I wonder if they have a Gimp delivering the sandwiches too.

  115. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3245815, posted on November 26, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Thank you. I await your book
    Revisionists you mention seem to be making it up.
    I prefer real history:

    Chapter 23
    The Decision To Use the Atomic Bomb
    by Louis Morton

    AWM Official War History Medical

    At the end of the period there is a clear picture of a body of men, thinned and weakened,only maintained in an unstable equilibrium with difficulty. The last hurdle they had to pass was the final reduction in rations in 1945, and it is probably true that liberation came with a small margin of safety for many of them, in fact only just in time. The A.D.M.S. of the 2nd Australian Prisoner-of-War Reception Group observed that the Changi men looked in worse condition when liberated than those who had experienced some improvement in their diet in the Thailand bases.

    The news of the peace came just in time for some of the nurses, who
    were very weak.

    Again thank you.

  116. Cassie of Sydney

    “Black Ball
    #3245939, posted on November 26, 2019 at 11:32 pm
    There are plenty of individual aborigines who are rejecting collectivism. They are being punished by lefties, white lefties. They deserve our support.”

    Yes.

  117. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ANTI-LGBT protests have been permanently banned from outside a Birmingham primary school, a judge has ruled today.

    seems mu slimes have fallen below the fags on the victimology totem pole

  118. Mater

    Post one.

    Does this qualify?

    One of the first questions was along the lines of “What do you think of the army and our commitment in Vietnam?”.
    I can’t remember exactly how I answered, but I have always told the truth, and the interview ended abruptly.

    But from your own blog post (linked to by Hazmatic):

    They also got it wrong, or I told a few fibs. I did, at the time, have a couple of subjects towards a degree. I hadn’t done very well, so may have been embarrassed to mention it.

    I was in Cadets at boarding school, but think I made up the bit about being a signaller.

  119. Johno

    You are a boor and a bore. You contribute nothing to this blog, and your strategy of the “last word” is not working. You are a snide, sneering sniffy of a failed human. Leave us in peace and we won’t expose your fantasies and lies any more because we want to forget you.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Post one.’

    Best dare ever.

    Especially from an unacclaimed awther who proclaims his teary scrawls to be:

    ‘Unapologetic insolence from an aging subversive.’

  121. Entropy

    Goldman Sachs Tells Employees: Use Transgender Pronouns to Become an ‘Ally’

    The company’s “diversity and inclusion” group posted the document on November 22, instructing employees to stop using pronouns which recognize the average biological, physiological, and psychological distinctions between men and women

    Goldman Sachs is in trouble for apparently causing all hurty feelings for people applying for the Apple Card because their credit rating algorithm is sexist. Yes, even though gender is not even a consideration in the algorithm, the algorithm must be unconsciously biased as it gave the trophy wife of the Ruby on Rails computer language inventor a lower credit rating than her husband. Queue outrage, all the way up to Fakeahontas who has referred the case to some political committee.

    Apparently the problem is that in an effort to be all woke, there is no second card hanging off the main card of the chief money earner, and each person gets their own, independent credit card and thus each applicant is assessed on their own merits and gets a separate credit rating assessment.

    So now of course the feminazisistas are now all upset about it and are saying that women should be automatically given the same credit rating as their husbandspartners, or that GS/Apple should allow second cards. Ha!

  122. Knuckle Dragger

    I don’t have shares as investments. Not any more, anyway.

    I’ve never understood (referencing Mr Leak today) why these massive corporate juggernauts insist on being out and proud social justice idiots, and spending Christ knows how much shareholder coin on doing it.

    They’re not playing to their target audience, in my very humble view. I would think (and again, in this field of endeavour I haven’t much experience so will happily be stomped on by people who know better) that people who invest in these muppets do so not necessarily to feel good about themselves, but to get a return on said investment.

    And they’re probably not going to get it by having their investment squandering on saving snow leopards and competitions on who can be the gayest.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    *squandered*

    Bugger. One of my favourite words, too.

  124. Johno

    You were in the cadets? How low did they set the bar? War mongering,baby killer slimeball.Fascist bitch bayoneter, oh the inhumanity of it all.

    Do you dance?

  125. Bruce of Newcastle

    There are plenty of individual aborigines who are rejecting collectivism. They are being punished by lefties, white lefties. They deserve our support.

    +100

    More of it happening too:

    Horrible! CNN Mouthpiece and Unhinged Democrat Ana Navarro Targets Diamond and Silk in Racist Tweet (26 Nov)

    I won’t quote the tweet, you can look yourself. If a righty wrote what she did the howling would be worldwide.

  126. 132andBush

    How many Socialists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    Just one, but when it inevitably fails, they will be sure to inform us it wasn’t a real light bulb.

  127. Entropy

    I’ve never understood (referencing Mr Leak today) why these massive corporate juggernauts insist on being out and proud social justice idiots, and spending Christ knows how much shareholder coin on doing it.

    They’re not playing to their target audience, in my very humble view

    If you were to consider that their target audience is their friends and relatives they meet at dinner parties and charity soirées it makes more sense. You know, friends and relatives on various Boards, charities, vice chancellors, journalists, politicians and industry superfund Boards.

    Shareholders are just an irritant.

  128. Cassie of Sydney

    “Post one”

    Anyone else remember this lie from the Joo hating racist….

    “1735099
    #3129202, posted on August 12, 2019 at 9:55 am

    I have never darkened the door of an RSL since 1971.”

    As Judge Judy says “‘if you tell the truth, then you don’t have to have a good memory”….the problem with the Toowoomba turd is that he doesn’t tell the truth and he doesn’t have a good memory.

  129. They also got it wrong, or I told a few fibs. I did, at the time, have a couple of subjects towards a degree. I hadn’t done very well, so may have been embarrassed to mention it.

    And that’s a “lie”?
    You have a fevered imagination.

    Leave us in peace and we won’t expose your fantasies and lies any more because we want to forget you.

    You wish.
    You lack that kind of discipline.
    And the bitterness and anger exhibited by many Vietnam veterans is still there.
    And there’s a small coterie of hangers on who never saw operational service, but indulge fantasies about it.
    They’re quite pathetic, the veterans not so much. They need support, not derision.
    The cure to this mess, created by a Coalition government in the sixties pandering to fear and loathing to cling to power, is truth and reconciliation, but until the first is exposed, the second won’t happen.
    It’s sad.

    I’ll continue to use my ICD* to expose that truth. Applied to this blog, it’s worked overtime.
    Sometimes it is successful (see p41, Australia’s Vietnam, Myth Vs History, p41).
    Setting the record straight is a good first step.

    The howls of outrage, death threats, and vicious abuse are evidence that I’m hitting the mark.
    It only happens here, which says a great deal about the quality of the individuals attracted to this site.

    *Inbuilt Crap Detector

  130. Hazmatic

    Johno
    #3246057, posted on November 27, 2019 at 8:00 am
    You were in the cadets? How low did they set the bar? War mongering,baby killer slimeball. Fascist recorder playing bitch bayoneter, oh the inhumanity of it all.

    Do you dance?

    FIFY. 😉

    Check the comments.

    “The polio was in the left leg wasn’t it?”

    Gold.

  131. stackja

    Signs of neglect missed as four year old girl left to starve

    A Victorian magistrate has slammed the Department of Health and Human Services for missing warning signs of neglect displayed by a little girl who was starved for months and weighed just 9.3kg when she was admitted to hospital with hallmark signs of malnutrition.
    Monique Hore, Herald Sun
    Subscriber only

    November 26, 2019 8:30pm

    But the department missed a series of warning signs, including that she was ­allegedly starved over “many weeks to months” and only attended 15 out of a possible 100 days of kinder.

    Her carer — her aunt — is due to stand trial next year accused of negligently causing serious injury.

    THE department failed to note any concern about the girl’s health until two weeks before her admittance to hospital in February 2018, when her aunt claimed her weight loss was due to a bout of gastro.

    A KINDER teacher failed to report that the girl missed dozens of kinder days and would “gorge” herself on food when she did appear.

    THE girl’s case worker conceded welfare reports were sometimes filed without physically sighting a child.

    Opposition spokesman for children and families, Nick Wakeling, said the case showed that vulnerable Victorian children were “falling through the cracks”.

    “It’s clear that the department breached its duty of care to this vulnerable child, but the buck stops with Daniel Andrews and his minister,” he said.

  132. Cassie of Sydney

    “”The howls of outrage, death threats, and vicious abuse are evidence that I’m hitting the mark.”

    Now that is defamatory.

  133. Not Uh oh

    Has anyone got access to a cartoon that was shown on Chris Kenny’s show on Monday night; the bit where he has a chat with Johannes Leak? It showed Coldplay in a boat being rowed by Greta and looked like an absolute cracker. Don’t know whose it was but wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

  134. min

    Drought and colder climate.. I read that Australia suffered a very long drought in the fifteenth century (geological evidence) . This was during the little ice age in Europe that was attributed to lack of sun spots which would then mean that it will not rain for years, given the colder than normal northern hemisphere winter.
    From memory did n’t the drought breaking contribute to Howard’s win?
    The PM is hoping for a miracle and as Opposition is lacking any rescue the country ideas, the Coalition is “safe”. In the meantime Oz is going down the gurgler faster than a blink.

  135. You were in the cadets? How low did they set the bar? War mongering,baby killer slimeball.Fascist bitch bayoneter, oh the inhumanity of it all.

    Do you dance?


    Get help.

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    On matters crikkit, I would like to advance the opinion that Geoff Lawson is a flog.

    Lawson, a qualified optometrist (wait for it) got to be in the Australian team for two reasons. One, as an up and comer he bowled a series of bouncers to an aging Geoff Boycott in a late 70s tour match – and two, Kerry Packer pinched all the decent ones for his World Series in the early 80s. Instead of being grateful to even have a Baggy Green, Lawson unfoundedly spent his entire career right up his own arse.

    On a tour to the West Indies in 1984, Lawson took 12 wickets. In FIVE Tests. That is, twelve wickets in ten West Indian innings. Twelve wickets out of a possible one hundred.

    After his overdue retirement he became a commentator, among other things. Today he looks like Uncle Arthur from Fast Forward, and he’s loud and proud on the subject of Pat Cummins being Australia’s Test captain on the strength of having a degree. A Bachelor of Business or somesuch.

    Fast bowlers should never, ever be captains. Not because they can’t be, but because they are emotionally invested in blowing batsmen off the park, and the good ones will do it until they collapse with heatstroke if you let them.

    You cannot maintain the rage necessary to be a decent quick and still make disparate judgements on tactics. There is a strong rumour that Lawson thought of himself as smarter than the average bear and therefore captain material, and now he’s projecting his failure onto Cummins who doesn’t deserve the aging glory boy hanging on his coattails.

  137. Mater

    And that’s a “lie”?

    One of many, but saying that you “have always told the truth” is more blatant. Your own blog demonstrates this not to be the case, as I demonstrated above.

    Please focus.

  138. Hazmatic

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3246066, posted on November 27, 2019 at 8:10 am
    “”The howls of outrage, death threats, and vicious abuse are evidence that I’m hitting the mark.”

    Now that is defamatory.

    Mock and derision. It’s almost the same thing…

  139. Check the comments.

    Check the facts.
    Was Doug Gibbons a secret Nasho?
    Did Frank Topp join 6RAR two weeks before Long Tan, or is Bob Buick a liar?

    Gold…..

  140. stackja

    min
    #3246068, posted on November 27, 2019 at 8:15 am

    Urban voters ‘what drought’?

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Entropy, 8.04;

    Appreciated. I hadn’t thought of CEOs and such having a comp amongst themselves to be the largest lover of pouves and baby seals at the expense of punters putting their saving into said organisations.

    As a certain five-figure millionaire (and avowed anti-capitalist) would say, I must have had a sheltered childhood.

  142. stackja

    The private still angry.

  143. Tom

    The Galapagos islands sound amazing, Calli.

    Made by love, with love and for love.

    It’s everywhere in creation, but heathens can’t see it.

  144. stackja

    Internal email slams top cops over Zachary Rolfe murder charge

    ALICE Springs detectives were left fuming after a decision was made in Darwin to charge Constable Zachary Rolfe over the shooting death of Kumanjayi Walker
    MATT CUNNINGHAM, Exclusive, Sky News
    Subscriber only

    November 26, 2019 10:28pm

    ALICE Springs detectives were left fuming after a decision was made in Darwin to charge Constable Zachary Rolfe over the shooting death of Kumanjayi Walker.

    Constable Rolfe was flown to Darwin from Alice Springs on November 13 after being told there were concerns for his safety following the shooting of the 19-year-old indigenous man at Yuendumu four days earlier.

    After arriving in Darwin he was arrested and later charged with murder.

    Several sources have confirmed the detectives leading the investigation in Alice Springs were furious about the decision that was made while they were still gathering evidence into the case.

    The decision to charge Constable Rolfe has seen police morale plummet with rank-and-file officers furious with the top brass over their handling of the case.

    An email was sent to all sworn officers shortly after Constable Rolfe was charged under the heading “#Bluelivesmatter”.

    “I have never felt more conflicted, disgusted, disrespected, vulnerable and distrustful than I do right now in the time I have worked for the NT police,” it said.

    “Something needs to be said with regard to the calibre and integrity of those at the helm of our organisation.”

  145. Siltstone

    Entropy at 8:04, spot on

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    Death threats?

    Oh – hang on. This is the avowed truth teller. Couldn’t possibly be made up.

    I know you’re a professional victim, Liability Bob, but bloody hell.

    You are not in an 80s film playing the lead role as a determined journo with a hot story that will bring down nations, and consequently on the run from gummint, the fuzz and the mafia all at the same time and finally getting a medal and a hot chick at the end.

    You are, however, an elderly failed revolutionary determined to rewrite history in order to drag yourself up to the dizzying heights of mediocrity.

  147. cohenite

    Post one.

    You’re aa piece of shit. Oh wait you said lies.

    In other vermin activity apparently even space chook found mad fucking witches too much and has suspended their site.

  148. stackja

    Perisher Valley Kosciuszko Rd at Perisher Valley
    ALPINE CONDITIONS Snow and ice
    Started yesterday 6:05pm, last checked today 8:31am
    Impact: Impact Traffic affected in both directions.
    Attending: Transport for NSW
    Advice: Reduce your speed
    Exercise caution
    Other Info: Black ice on the road, motorists should drive to the conditions.

  149. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I’ve never understood (referencing Mr Leak today) why these massive corporate juggernauts insist on being out and proud social justice idiots, and spending Christ knows how much shareholder coin on doing it.

    They’re not playing to their target audience, in my very humble view. I would think (and again, in this field of endeavour I haven’t much experience so will happily be stomped on by people who know better) that people who invest in these muppets do so not necessarily to feel good about themselves, but to get a return on said investment.

    No, KD, they are not. In the same way that the stupid.forking.gliberals aren’t playing to their target audience when the former fall over themselves to implement every stupid destructive greenfilth/labore policy they can, in the delusional hope that collectivists will stop voting labore/greenfilth and vote instead for the SFGs.

    This was very evident in the now legendary statement by Squire Texta that gliberal voters who detested that vainglorious clueless flog Waffles Turnbuckle and who would subsequently cast their votes elsewhere “did not matter”.

    We all saw how well that worked out in the election of 2016.

  150. jo

    Knuckles, I know its not test cricket but when Denis Lillee was WA captain at the end of his career the number of games won after looking like certain defeat was amazing. The last days play of Sheffield Shield, something to behold. I guess it was his belief in himself and those around him. Something that is said today but only really something to say. No spine, money comes too easy these days. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath in the same mould as Lillee. None of them will ever die wondering.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Fair comment, jo.

    I don’t have a problem with spinners taking on the job. I personally believe Shane Warne to be one of the great cockheads of our time, but as a skipper he probably would have done an okay job.

    I can see why the great D.K. made a decent skipper at the end of his career. He physically couldn’t overbowl himself, and he had 355 Test scalps’ worth of experience.

  152. stackja

    North Shore Various Suburbs
    TRAFFIC LIGHTS BLACKED OUT Power failure

    BURST WATER MAIN
    Crows Nest Falcon St at West St

    Sydney chaos. Drought?

  153. cohenite

    The troll is linking to dugong; watch out troll she eats betas like you for breakfast.

  154. Geriatric Mayfly

    Leak.
    The best, Tom. The best.

    What a great snapshot of a woke collective. Would there be enough room on the canvas for a similar comintern at the ABC?

  155. Eyrie

    People, ignore the trolls. Don’t reply, do not allude to their posts etc. Zip, nada, nothing, nichts.

  156. Entropy

    min
    #3246068, posted on November 27, 2019 at 8:15 am
    Drought and colder climate.. I read that Australia suffered a very long drought in the fifteenth century (geological evidence) . This was during the little ice age in Europe that was attributed to lack of sun spots which would then mean that it will not rain for years, given the colder than normal northern hemisphere winter.
    From memory did n’t the drought breaking contribute to Howard’s win?
    The PM is hoping for a miracle and as Opposition is lacking any rescue the country ideas, the Coalition is “safe”. In the meantime Oz is going down the gurgler faster than a blink.

    At ,eat for Queensland, the period from the 14th to mid 19th century was a period of higher rainfall. The 11th to 13th centuries were drier than now, in fact the 12th century had a forty year drought, based on modelling using sedimentary layers matched with Antarctic ice cores.
    So, cooler gobs, temps: more rain in easternAustralia, warmer global temps, less rain.

  157. Old School Conservative

    stackja
    #3246077, posted on November 27, 2019 at 8:24 am
    The private still angry.

    You have identified the root cause of his despair.

  158. Eyrie

    Entropy, regional is different from global.

  159. A strong independent wahmen shamed by a comment no one else heard (except Hunch) has to file a complaint in Federal court and get a biased judge.

    In fact they’re so strong and independent she’s never had a real job and criticism of her is proof of your own fragility.

    Introducing Senator Mary Sue!

    It has nothing at all to do with the Greens Pol Potian level of anti-gun lunacy.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    The story around today about Obama dissing all the current Dem candidates makes an excellent hors d’oeuvre to the following from Daniel Greenfield:

    MSNBC Reaps the Radicalism it Sowed (26 Nov)

    Andrew Yang, the candidate of Silicon Valley bigwigs who believe that all of the country’s problems can be solved by replacing people with machines and forcing what’s left of the middle class to write welfare checks to everyone else, will boycott MSNBC for not giving him enough time to say stupid things on TV.

    Too much glorious intralefty warfare to possibly do justice with a quote. It reminds me perfectly of the Life of Brian scene in the stadium.

  161. “”The howls of outrage, death threats, and vicious abuse are evidence that I’m hitting the mark.”

    This idiot considered it defamatory when he wouldn’t answer a question and I then came to my own conclusion.

    He probably has a safety whistle and an emotional support wombat.

  162. Old School Conservative

    It’s official.
    Johannes Leak fills Bill’s shoes.

  163. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    People, ignore the trolls.

    And then don’t bother wondering why you’re continually being badgered by collectivist cockheads to admit there are 57.6666666667 “genders”, indigikneees invented everything and izlamb is a feminayzeeist religion of peace.

    Or else you’ll lose your jerb and your home.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘“I have never felt more conflicted, disgusted, disrespected, vulnerable and distrustful than I do right now in the time I have worked for the NT police,” it said.’

    Quite the common sentiment up here, apparently. A small clue may be in the titles.

    The NT Police is actually is tri-service, and incorporates the NT fireys and the local version of the SES as well. This is of course excellent news for BOA (Book of Acronym) sellers, as the NT Police Force (NTPF) are only a part [albeit the far greater part] of the Northern Territory Police, Fire and Emergency Services (NTPFES).

    Also, the Commish is not just the Commissioner here. He is the ‘Commissioner and Chief Executive Officer of the Northern Territory Police, Fire and Emergency Services’. Yup – a CEO.

    All this nonsense apparently started with a bloke called John McRoberts in 2009, who took the helm from WA. Naturally, he ended up actively trying to stop his bit of side crumpet (a hideous, waddling snarky travel agent) from being investigated and prosecuted over rorting a gummint travel scheme for pensioners and did six months in the Alice Springs jail for his troubles (Ha! – allegedly).

    The point is, calling yourself a CEO is stupid. Also, the apparent trend at present is for Commanders and Assistant Commissioners to add a certificate from the Australian Company Directors’ Course on their CVs. Why?

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    *actually a tri-*

    Do you need to proof that before you post, KD?

    Nah. She’ll be right.

  166. Because they deserve yet more OPM when they are the real heroes collecting big fat pension checks.

    It is as dumb as Mona Shindy winning a business woman’s award.

    You’d think being richer than Crassus would be reward enough.

  167. feelthebern

    Compare morale in the NT police versus the US armed services right now.
    In the NT, big wigs have the plod charged before all the evidence is collected.
    In the US, the CinC sacks a big wig & re-instates the rank of the little guy.

  168. This Frog ID app is an insidious way to really shut down mining and construction isn’t it?

    “Oh looky here! I’ve found the rare Budjm Swamp frog…15 km NW of Tibbooburra, I guess there can’t be any development here, forever!”

  169. feelthebern
    #3246109, posted on November 27, 2019 at 9:02 am

    Compare morale in the NT police versus the US armed services right now.
    In the NT, big wigs have the plod charged before all the evidence is collected.
    In the US, the CinC sacks a big wig & re-instates the rank of the little guy.

    Perhaps contrary to leftist dogma spouted here when no crime committed by Trump can be named, perhaps Trump actually believes in the rule of law and respects institutions.

  170. lotocoti

    Can anyone recommend a topical cream for angry privates?

  171. Shy Ted

    Breaking news – the enemy made death threats to TooBob (Toowoomba Bob) in Nam.
    More breaking news – in the absence of a bugler, TooBob would wake his mates with Reveille on the recorder.

  172. Tom

    Another rock concert-style rally two days before Thanksgiving in Fort Lauderdale, FL:

    President Donald Trump isn’t set to go on stage at the BB&T Center until Tuesday evening, but people have been lining up on both sides.

    Trump supporters started waiting hours early to get into his pre-Thanksgiving campaign rally. Thousands of people were already inside the arena, even before the president, First Lady Melania Trump and other family members boarded Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews for the flight to South Florida.

    The early crowd has been erupting with chants of “USA, USA, USA,” and “four more years.” When people spotted Trump’s campaign manager, Fort Lauderdale resident Brad Parscale, along the side of the floor, people started applauding, cheering and calling out his name.

    Howard K., 40, was passing out bright red bumper stickers that read “Impeach The Dems” and “Vote Trump.” Originally from Guyana, he moved to the United States when he was 6 years old and to Florida at 11. The best thing about the U.S. is the freedom of speech, he said.

    “Here you have the freedom to love or hate the president,” he said. “As an immigrant to this country, I’m proud of that.”

    Howard K. lives in Pembroke Pines. He said in blue Broward County, most of his neighbors are Democrats. Here, he feels he can be himself among like-minded Trump voters.

    “We’re all super excited that he’s here today,” he said.

    But opponents also are on the outside, expressing their displeasure with the president.

    Rally starts at around 11am AEDT. Livestream here.

  173. Cactus

    Can I humbly suggest some rules of engagement change to the Cat?

    – I scroll the Troll.
    – I also love reading other peoples contributions.
    – But some people get into slanging matches with the Troll and because I havent read the Troll it makes no sense to me.
    – But its also not easy to discern what is 1) a normal post on random matters and 2) a reply to the Troll often on Vietnam.

    Can we consider if people do choose to engage with the Troll there be some signal in the first line so I can scroll those posts?

    Keen to hear others thoughts.

  174. mh

    Thanks Tom.

    That’s whet my appetite.

    USA USA USA

  175. Eyrie

    Cactus, if only people would not ignore the First Rule for dealing with trolls:
    Ignore the trolls. Don’t reply, do not allude to their posts etc. Zip, nada, nothing, nichts.

  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Break-in clue ‘led to alleged Claremont killer’

    Paul Garvey
    Senior Reporter
    @PDGarvey
    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter
    10:16PM November 26, 2019

    A fingerprint from an unsolved house break-in in 1988 led police directly to the man they believe is the Claremont serial killer.

    For the first time, prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo SC laid out the steps taken by teams of detectives, the FBI, scientists and cold-case experts to piece together evidence she alleged proved Bradley Robert Edwards snatched three young women from the Perth suburb of Claremont in 1996 and 1997 and murdered them.

    She told the court that by 2009, police knew there was DNA from an unknown male under the fingernails of the 27-year-old lawyer they regarded as the Claremont serial killer’s third victim, Ciara Glennon. They knew it was a match for DNA on a 17-year-old girl abducted and roped in Karakatta cemetery in 1995.

    Ms Barbagallo said it was in 2016 during an examination of historic stored exhibits from unsolved crimes that scientists found the same DNA on a kimono left behind after a sax attack on an 18-year-old woman in her home in the southern Perth suburb of Huntingdale in 1988.

    “What the investigators didn’t know as at December 2016 was whose DNA it was, or what male had a DNA profile that matched it,” Ms Barbagallo said.

    “There was certainly no male DNA profile in the DNA database which matched it at the time.”

    Police turned their attention back to the 1988 Huntingdale ­attack and the stained kimono, searching for crimes reported in the area around that time. Four days before that home invasion, an attempted break-in was reported nearby. Police still had the fingerprints they collected at the time from a rear sliding door.

    Ms Barbagallo said running those fingerprints through the police database found a match with Edwards, who had his fingerprints taken after he was charged and pleaded guilty to assaulting a social worker at Hollywood Hospital in 1990. She said that match was made on December 16, 2016, more than 20 years after the first Claremont victim, Sarah Spiers, 18, disappeared after a night out in Claremont on January 27, 1996.

    Police believed Edwards could be the Claremont serial killer but did not have his DNA. Ms Barbagallo told the court they started covertly following Edwards on December 19, 2016, tailing him and his stepdaughter to the ­movies the following day.

    On leaving the cinema, ­Edwards was seen drinking from a Sprite bottle and throwing it in a bin. Ms Barbagallo said police grabbed the bottle and tested it for DNA. It was a match, she said.

    Edwards has since pleaded guilty to roping the girl in the cemetery in 1995 and to the 1988 Huntingdale attack, but maintains his innocence over the three murders.

    Ms Barbagallo pointed to the 1995 rope as proof Edwards was capable of the Claremont murders. She described that rope as calculated, methodical and predatory. He had brought a cord, pre-knotted into handcuffs, and hood and material to put in her mouth

    From the Oz.

  177. Geriatric Mayfly

    But opponents also are on the outside, expressing their displeasure with the president.

    That would be elements of the media like MSNBC & CNN who either ignore or grossly downplay these rallies. They couldn’t even afford time for Conan at the White House for fear it might accidentally expose you know who. A big sacrifice, as Conan would be one of those animal heart tugger fill-ins that the MSM love to insert in their bulletins.

  178. Boambee John

    For the benefit of the pettifogging pedantic pedanty pedant, when used as an Army or Air Force rank, “Marshal” is spelled with only one “l”.

    Should have employed an editor for the book, shouldn’t have cost more than a few jelly beans to get a primary school kid to do the job!

  179. People, ignore the trolls. Don’t reply, do not allude to their posts etc. Zip, nada, nothing, nichts.

    Sure, KD, Casie from Sydney, Mater and Zulu Kilo Two Alpha are serial pests, but be kind and cut them a bit of slack.
    They obviously need the attention.

  180. Juan

    It’s amazing that the quote you provide no more than speculates and yet you definitively deny that John the Apostle didn’t write the Gospel of John. Quite amazing.

    I accept the academic consensus that the Gospel of John was attributed to, rather than written by, John the Apostle.

    And when I say “academic consensus”, I think it’s running at 100%. I’m not aware of any biblical scholar who has concluded John wrote his eponymous gospel. You’re welcome to point me to one, but then the academic consensus would be reduced to only something in the order of 99.75%.

  181. Juan

    Juan, there are as yet a lot of Dead Sea Scrolls in pottery waiting to be discovered in the Middle East that could solve your problems about synaptic gospels and the like.

    Unfortunately, the Dead Sea Scrolls say nothing about the New Testament, let alone anything specific about the synoptic gospels.

    From the Biblical Archaeology Society:

    There is no reason to suggest that the New Testament authors knew any of the sectarian works discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Further, it is quite possible that the two groups never interacted with each other. VanderKam points out that there is no overlap between the cast of characters in the scrolls and the New Testament (except for figures from the Hebrew Bible). He notes that “not even John the Baptist, who for a time lived in the wilderness and around the Jordan, not too far from the Dead Sea Scroll caves (see Luke 1:80; 3:3)” appears in the scrolls—let alone Jesus, much of whose ministry happened in Galilee.

  182. Cassie of Sydney

    “Sure, KD, Casie from Sydney”

    The racist can’t spell.

  183. Juan

    Juan, there are as yet a lot of Dead Sea Scrolls in pottery waiting to be discovered in the Middle East that could solve your problems about synaptic gospels and the like.

    Unfortunately, the Dead Sea Scrolls say nothing about the New Testament, let alone anything specific about the synoptic gospels.

    From the Biblical Archaeology Society:

    There is no reason to suggest that the New Testament authors knew any of the sectarian works discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Further, it is quite possible that the two groups never interacted with each other. VanderKam points out that there is no overlap between the cast of characters in the scrolls and the New Testament (except for figures from the H3brew Bible). He notes that “not even John the Baptist, who for a time lived in the wilderness and around the Jordan, not too far from the Dead Sea Scroll caves (see Luke 1:80; 3:3)” appears in the scrolls—let alone Jesus, much of whose ministry happened in Galilee.

  184. Juan

    All of that is speculative, Juan. And, again, as I said above, John’s Gospel was immediately accepted as authentic by the Christian community.

    ‘Newsflash!!! Religious community accepts the authenticity of its own religious texts!!!’ 😜

    But seriously, that doesn’t tell us very much. It’s obvious why 2nd century Christian adherents embraced the Gospel of John — it’s the most evolved gospel, its high christology standing in marked contrast to the Gospel of Mark.

    It has a few problems in the minutiae vis-á-vis the synoptics, but bear in mind very few Christians in the 2nd century has access to more than one gospel, let alone all four so the writer(s) of John intended for it to be read alone and not in conjunction with the other three gospels.

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Casie from Sydney’

    Indicative of a slipshod approach.

    How dare you impute the lady in that manner, you cad.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sure, KD, Casie from Sydney, Mater and Zulu Kilo Two Alpha are serial pests, but be kind and cut them a bit of slack.
    They obviously need the attention.

    Great to know I’m in such good company.

  187. Johno

    Cactus,Eyrie The ridiculing of the angry private is sport.It has spent about 878 months on this Earth,10 of those months were spent in SVN.None of those months were in any way exceptional or meritorious,and yet he can’t shut up about them. He lies and he lies and he lies.

    He denigrates the service of all others to big note himself. Everything he gets he deserves.

    Hazmatic and Mater are both very good at exposing the creep.I just like abusing him,it absolutely enrages the flog. He can’t understand why we don’t worship him. Hint, it is because he is a complete and utter fraud.
    I could go on but that’s enough for one day, tomorrow rinse and repeat.

    Boor Bore Boer.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cactus
    #3246118, posted on November 27, 2019 at 9:15 am
    Keen to hear others thoughts.”

    Oh yes…ignoring trolls/leftists/liars has really worked hasn’t it? So I guess being polite to leftist liars like the Jooo hating racist from Toowoomba has now brought us to the situation where we have…

    50 genders
    Transgender absurdity
    All white men are evil
    Climate religious hysteria
    Greta Dumberg
    Rampant anti-Semitism such as in Canada last week where far-left BDS and Antifa scum scream “go back to the ovens” at Jooooish students
    Jeremy Corbyn as UK Labour leader

    It really pays for the right to be polite doesn’t it? I could go on…the above examples are just a small smattering of what ignoring the left has brought us.

    So okay then….let’s ignore the serial liar.

  189. stackja

    Cactus I agree. I scroll past many posts.

  190. Johno

    Well said Cassie,well said. We have to keep hitting scum like this, otherwise they control the narrative .

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    Juan – Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53, which is included in the Dead Sea Scrolls cache. If I recall there were nearly two dozen copies of Isaiah in it. The carbon dating is from before Jesus was born.

    Of course the general point of Protestantism is that righteousness is by faith (or belief since that word is the same one in Greek). Consequently people who have no faith in the Bible will not believe – even if someone rises from the dead in front of them. Which is a point Jesus makes in Luke 16:31.

  192. Davey Boy

    This video provides a good overview walkthrough, of submissions made to the Senate on the proposed $10k Cash Ban law.

    If you want to know what the consequences of the $10k Cash Ban law will be, it’s worth watching it for at least a few minutes.

  193. For the benefit of the pettifogging pedantic pedanty pedant, when used as an Army or Air Force rank, “Marshal” is spelled with only one “l”.

    Tell me, how do you spell it when applying the title to a thug who was quite OK with rigging elections whilst at the same time whoring his way around saigon with CIA support.
    Ky (who should be really be known as Nguyễn Cao Kỳ if you want to push the pedantry) with Thiệu in 1967, rigged an election to ensure that they (Thiệu and Kỳ’s military ticket) maintained a ruling junta, that outside the military clique in Saigon lacked any vestige of popular support.
    Thiệu and Kỳ had a falling out, but that’s another story.
    Strangely perhaps, he returned to Vietnam in 2004 –

    This past January, for the first time, Nguyen Cao Ky, the former head of the American-backed Saigon government and an American citizen, returned for a memorable visit, shedding tears just before his aircraft landed. Back in Orange County, Calif., where he lived for years, the Vietnamese community was outraged, saying his visit legitimized a government that violates human rights. But Mr. Nguyen called Vietnam a unified country and said it was time to forget the past and celebrate Asia’s next economic dragon.

    His apparent change of heart is a salutary lesson to the bitter old soldiers here, and their hangers-on, who would prefer to fight old (lost) battles rather than reconcile and move on.

    Reconciliation would of course, risk a loss of face, but that’s an Asian stereotype. Nguyễn Cao Kỳ had the courage and honesty to do it before he died.
    Think about that…..

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    whoring his way around saigon (sic) with CIA support.

  195. struth

    Good Moaning.

    Just for all anti western traitors, who should be put up against a wall and shot, on behalf of those who died fighting them in all wars, for our freedom today.

    Fascism , communism and socialism differ by name only, and in practice, the minor differences between them is only to be found in the propaganda used by the totalitarian , state before the individual , murdering psychopath in charge.
    Yet without exception, it’s the same old left wing, centralised government control of the people , for the self appointed elite, throughout world history, must have their slaves.

  196. stackja

    Cassie – ignoring doesn’t mean agreeing. The angry private, I believe, isn’t interested in anything but disruption. Regarding leftists, they are not worth it.

  197. Mother Lode

    Goldman Sachs Tells Employees: Use Transgender Pronouns to Become an ‘Ally’

    My company has nonsense about ‘becoming an ally’.

    It is rather annoying, and if anything makes me feel more alien and disinclined to champion the miserable underclass with a whole corporation behind them.

    My allegiance is not to be had for pleading retarded slogans.

  198. Boambee John

    Signs of neglect missed as four year old girl left to starve

    A Victorian magistrate has slammed the Department of Health and Human Services for missing warning signs of neglect displayed by a little girl who was starved for months and weighed just 9.3kg when she was admitted to hospital with hallmark signs of malnutrition.

    Victoria has Chain of Responsibility legislation. Tragedies like this might be less frequent if that legislation were to be applied to government authorities up to and including ministers and the premier.

    Could the social worker face industrial manslaughter charges?

  199. whoring his way around saigon (sic) with CIA support.

    Apologies – should have read Ho Chi Minh City.
    Or Thành phố Hồ Chí Minh.
    It’s their country, not ours…..

  200. stackja

    ML – Goldman like Westpac?

  201. Hazmatic

    Shy Ted
    #3246116, posted on November 27, 2019 at 9:12 am
    Breaking news – the enemy made death threats to TooBob (Toowoomba Bob) in Nam.
    More breaking news – in the absence of a bugler, TooBob would wake his mates with Reveille on the recorder.

    Fact check – True!

    This Colorized Film From The Past Will Blow You Away

  202. Arky

    Can we consider if people do choose to engage with the Troll there be some signal in the first line so I can scroll those posts?

    ..
    Good idea.
    Before engaging please put this video at the top of your post as a trigger warning to others:


  203. Over $1 billion a year and they can’t even run a website.

    Gimme $5m pa and I’ll handle the website.

  204. stackja

    Hazmatic
    #3246160, posted on November 27, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Macquarie Dictionary Blog
    Formerly this phrase used to be just mad as a snake. The phrase like a cut snake is used describe someone or something that is in a frenzy of activity. If you call someone a flaming galah you are calling them a fool. A two bob watch is a cheap and crappy watch, literally, one that only cost two bob.

  205. Mother Lode

    I’ve never understood (referencing Mr Leak today) why these massive corporate juggernauts insist on being out and proud social justice idiots, and spending Christ knows how much shareholder coin on doing it.

    A lot of their shareholders who are also businesses are in equal thrall to whole genital flopping burlesque.

    Private shareholders are mute and have no impact.

  206. Arky

    As a bonus, if you post a video of wang tang sweet poontang at the top of every reply to the wangonator, Struth will take until Christmas to download this page.
    Win win!

  207. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #3246167, posted on November 27, 2019 at 10:32 am

    Someone got to Westpac. Big or small same result.

  208. areff

    The ABC News website is undergoing a significant, albeit unfortunately temporary, improvement:

    Website Outage
    We are currently experiencing a technical outage which means we are unable to provide our usual service.
    Our team is working to fix the problem.

  209. EvilElvis

    We’re bringing in a NSW harvest contractor from Coleambally to help get the crop off.

    I thought that stuff was the domain of bovine farming. Live and learn. Don’t forget the gloves, Farmer Gez.

  210. 💩 💩 💩 💩

    aka pile of poo
    https://emojipedia.org/pile-of-poo/

    This should serve as the content warning symbol

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We’re bringing in a NSW harvest contractor from Coleambally to help get the crop off.

    All the best – finished yesterday in the Eastern Wheatbelt – pi$$ poor yield, but all H1 grade.

  212. stackja

    WEBSITE OUTAGE
    We are currently experiencing a technical outage which means we are unable to provide our usual service.

    Our team is working to fix the problem.

    This service may include material from Agence France-Presse (AFP), APTN, Reuters, AAP, CNN and the BBC World Service which is copyright and cannot be reproduced.

    © ABC

    ABC Olympics “alternatives” – ABC “alternatives” Reuters.

  213. Top Ender

    Only in the Northern Territory Department:

    Unhappy hooker clients can sue
    AMOS AIKMAN

    Prostitutes would be exposed to damages claims for poor performance under Northern Territory Labor’s draft legislation to legalise sex work, lawyers have warned.

    The Sex Industry Bill, being debated this week, has provoked ire across the political spectrum. The NT opposition and conservative independents have accused the government of moving to let “mini-brothels” be set up in virtually every suburb, and a group of feminist lawyers has weighed in.

    The Australian arm of the Women’s Human Rights Campaign (a global movement) welcomed the proposed removal of criminal penalties for selling sexual services but warned that other changes would give “pimps and buyers of prostituted women” unfair opportunities to sue.

    Helen Pringle, a WHRC spokeswoman, said the draft law appeared to break Australia’s obligations under the UN Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.

    “Empowering men to sue women who withdraw consent to sexual acts legitimises sexual assault as a contractual obligation,” Dr Pringle said.

    Feminist Legal Clinic principal solicitor Anna Kerr said provisions allowing unhappy customers to launch damages claims were “abhorrent and must be removed … This legislation adds duress to (sex workers’) circumstances by introducing the prospect of being sued by clients or pimps should they want to withdraw their consent to sexual acts.

    “This is a ropists’ charter, at odds with the criminal law of sexual assault, which rightly provides no recourse or punishment for withdrawal of sexual consent,” Ms Kerr said.

    A spokesman for Attorney-General Natasha Fyles said the WHRC’s concerns were misconceived and the government “will not be making amendments in regards to legitimising contracts under the bill. The bill allows a sex worker to withdraw consent without being liable for a breach of contract. Contract law would, however, require them to reimburse the client if upfront payment is received.

    “The bill provides the general contractual rights to rescind or cancel, or to recover damages for non-performance of a contract, (and) are not affected by the ability of a person to refuse to provide or continue to undertake sex work.”

    He said sexual slavery was already a federal offence.

    Gerry Wood, an independent Territory MP, said Labor’s laws were tantamount to “promoting prostitution as an everyday job (and) … allowing mini-brothels to start up under the guise of home occupation”.

    Opposition Leader Gary Higgins said the bill “does not achieve the balance of public welfare with the rights and freedoms of individuals … To treat sex work as the same as any other business denies reality.” A government statement in March said the bill was intended to streamline sex-work regulation operating under three incompatible models.

    Oz print edition

  214. Snoopy

    What a great snapshot of a woke collective.

    I particularly liked the apple-cheeked Abbariginal.

  215. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    live trump florida

  216. Mother Lode

    It’s official.
    Johannes Leak fills Bill’s shoes.

    I have but one quibble.

    The colouring: while the palette is good, the application is a bit patchy. When Bill did the gimp the parts of the costume left white gave it the leathery texture and solidity.

    Apart from that (and with a lot fewer years under his belt than his dear old Dad), flawless.

  217. struth

    A government statement in March said the bill was intended to streamline sex-work regulation operating under three incompatible models.

    Sex in PPE.

  218. Geriatric Mayfly

    The horrors of the Cashless Debit Card roll on for a second day in the House. The Member for O’Connor, who is right in the thick of Aboriginal dysfunction has just spoken of the benefits the card has brought. Now followed by that useless twit from Tasmania, Wilkie, who wouldn’t have a clue.

  219. Top Ender

    Also in the print edition Oz, Dick Smith has taken out a 1/4 page ad with Our Greta (TM) in a picture, and a message to the PM saying “Eternal Growth in a Finite World is Impossible.”

    Underneath that, it says: “Don’t tell anyone, but a driving force behind low dam levels is our staggering population growth.”

    A suitable come-back might be: “Don’t tell your ad designer Dick, but we’re not really sure what you mean.”

  220. Shy Ted

    Hey NT Cats, I see they’ve legalised prostitution up there. What will this do to the price of you know what? Will I need to carry 2 packs of smokes or still just the 1?

  221. 8th Dan

    a pile of poo

    At the top of your own comments.
    Should work really well.
    Appropriate for the shit that most of you type.

  222. Juan

    Juan – Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53, which is included in the Dead Sea Scrolls cache. If I recall there were nearly two dozen copies of Isaiah in it. The carbon dating is from before Jesus was born.

    I’m not sure what is your point — that the Book of Isaiah is an authentic work of the Latter Prophets in the H3brew Bible?

    I don’t think that’s in dispute. What is grounds for dispute, though, is while Christian tradition holds the ‘suffering servant’ is Jesus; the direct descendants of the of the people for whom the Book of Isaiah was written vehemently disagree.

    All we can say is both sides have their arguments, but neither is so persuasive as to convince the other side.

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