Open Forum: November 30, 2019

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  1. The world will need to get to net zero emissions by mid-century in order to prevent catastrophic effects from climate change, an international panel of scientists reported last year. That means reducing greenhouse gas emissions to nearly zero and starting to remove excess human-caused greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. Since last year’s report, cities, scientists, and most recently the European Parliament have declared a “climate emergency.”

    WOW! What a graduation!

  2. egg_

    John Kerry, Arnold Schwarzenegger wage ‘World War Zero’ on climate change

    Arnie mit Hummer und tank?
    Oh da ironing!

  3. dover_beach

    Today in Leftism:

    Jameela Jamil- You people are Pro birth. Not pro life. There are plenty of starving, homeless babies currently. Over 100k currently seeking foster care. You care about fetuses, Once they’re out the womb, you don’t give a fuck. Help the kids who are alive first, then call yourself “pro-life”

    Indeed, what have Christians ever done for the homeless, the sick, the widow, or the orphan?

  4. egg_

    8th Fvckwit arrives, right on cue.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    Their abc obtains activist footage of cow cruelty.

    Meat is misogynist.

    Swedish National Food Body Booed for Attacking Boys and Men for Eating Meat (4 Dec, via BCF)

    The Swedish National Food Agency has sparked a hot debate with a contentious Twitter post, where it shamed boys and men for eating meat, which it suggested is unhealthy and environmentally unfriendly.

    “Men and boys eat the most meat, which is not good for health and environment. How can the meat norm be changed? You don’t have to eat a lot of meat to be masculine or build muscle”, the National Food Agency tweeted, adding hashtags like “sustainable food consumption”

    Good Svedish menvolk eat only kale and insects.

  6. Dover

    Have you ever seen that awful philosophy tube channel on yew tube?

    Just awful.

    His video on responding to Shapiro being pro life is an example of how not to argue.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rick Farley, then the NFF boss, sold his constituents down the river on Native Title.

    Then he suddenly had a quasi-judicial seat on the National Native Title Tribunal. Karma, he died young soon after.

    Started out as a real mover and shaker in agripolitics , went on to set up house with one Linda Burney, and it all went downhill from there.

  8. Some History

    Arnie’s closest celebrity friends think he said something like:

    We hev to look efta dee ear. We don’t warnt pollooted ear. We warnt to brith clin ear. And mit. We it too much mit. Starp dee mit. If we pay artention to dee mit and dee ear, we have a chenz. Starp end tink. Ha HAAAA!

  9. egg_

    Fuel tank capacity 113.6 gal

  10. “Men and boys eat the most meat, which is not good for health and environment. How can the meat norm be changed? You don’t have to eat a lot of meat to be masculine or build muscle”

    This is pretty much all lies.

    The growth factor response to meat is much stronger than vegetable protein.

    This is why Asians are getting bigger on average.

    Zinc in red meat facilitates testosterone production (and other manly essences).

    Vitamin K is found in meat, and it need not be converted by the body unlike plant sources.

    Vitamin K is essential for proper bone strength and clear arteries.

  11. Tailgunner

    Commo communal state centralised planning is where it will end, this is only them putting the tip in for a start.

    Fkn hell.
    I’ll put John in the Accellerationist camp too.

  12. Started out as a real mover and shaker in agripolitics , went on to set up house with one Linda Burney, and it all went downhill from there.

    Cucked out for a chick who wanted sweet Land Cruiser privileges.

  13. egg_

    Hole their fuel tank and see how they fare.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    ““I think she’s a weird Swede with a bad temper. “

    That’s the best description of the little fascist I’ve read.

  15. mh

    Oh come on
    #3253169, posted on December 5, 2019 at 6:58 pm
    There’s a YouTube video titled ‘Andrew Yang creams in his supporters’ and that is literally what happened.

    Yes, Tailgunner posted it today.

    Yang must be trying to get a slice of the Buttigieg cream pie.

  16. Tel

    Zinc in red meat facilitates testosterone production (and other manly essences).

    Correct.

    However, you can also catch up the difference with cheap Zinc amino acid chelate (made in a factory) purchased from your supermarket. Don’t think that I’m discouraging anyone from eating meat … but modern technology makes supplements an effective and low cost option.

    The big one is vitamin B-12 which is an absolute requirement for doing DNA repair (hint: you want that) and you don’t need much but vegetables don’t have any. Again, you can reach for the laboratory made supplements that, but meat generally does have it. Surprisingly … eating the dirt off grass roots is also an option (B-12 is in the soil, not in the grass) but I leave that type of work to the experts (i.e. cows). Vegans think they are way smart until they realize years later they have been neglecting DNA repair. Don’t be that guy.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    Just watching an old Grand Designs Australia.
    Dickhead doctor building his “vision” on a tiny block in Port Melbourne.
    First mistake.
    Going up three stories.
    Oops. Too close to the power lines.
    $84k to go underground, $42k for a cross arm.
    Then he clads the house in those narrow backyard water tanks so he can be “drought proof” because “global warming”.
    “If water runs out we will have 2-3 years of supply”.
    Yeah, nah.
    If a city of 3 million people have no water they will drink your moat, dickhead.
    And he just used about 15% of a tiny building footprint for vanity water tanks.

  18. egg_

    “If water runs out we will have 2-3 years of supply”.

    Chlorination?

  19. Tailgunner

    WOW! What a graduation!

    Haha, great stuff from the lads.
    But, back to Andrew Yang….

  20. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/PXY9tbHaEFw

    A bloke called Lee Zeldin being interviewed on Fox, which to my untrained ear often sounds to have some partisanship, quite like the Democrats.

    Since Fox is not trying to run the Country it may not matter so much.

    Either the democrats are crying havoc and taking the gloves off to take over America again and they must think that there may be some bipartisanship there, or else this is a panic reaction to the next phase of draining the swamp, as it has been described.

    Zeldins last grab just fucks the Democrats for the shit they do.

  21. Entropy

    Land Cruiser privileges?

    I prefer “Hectare Hunting”

  22. Arky

    I wonder what it is like to watch this sober?


  23. dover_beach

    I haven’t, dot, but I see he thinks Corbyn will win.

  24. Acre chasing
    Hectare hunting
    Land cruiser privileges

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘If a city of 3 million people have no water they will drink your moat, dickhead.’

    Pshaw. The very thought. That would mean taking something that isn’t theirs.

    Only cads, rotters, bounders and the occasional blackguard would dare, and even then they’d risk a damn good thrashing.

    At bunch of fives, at least. From somebody.

  26. Boambee John

    I’m Danielle the 8th I am,

    I’ve been a troll seven times before,
    And every one was a total bore (boor?),

  27. Tailgunner


    Melania Trump
    @FLOTUS
    A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it

    Damn straight,girl.
    Promote that hottie

  28. Tel

    Chlorination?

    With rain water (if you ignore recent weeks) it’s pretty clean to start with an there’s not a lot of need.

    I don’t allow people to climb up and shit on my roof. I recommend others also follow that rule.

    If you are really worried … then oxygen is cheaper than chlorine and safer to use, you just need a largish fish tank pump, some plastic hose, and and aeration stone (read Ed Krug Environment Betrayed where he explains about oxygen and water, smart guy taught me a lot). You also need electricity … presuming you don’t want to sit and pump it yourself … but those little pumps don’t use much electricity and a small but constant flow of aeration makes a big difference to water quality.

  29. Crossie

    Derryn Hinch is signing off for good from SkyNews saying that the viewers didn’t take to him. I thought that was obvious when he lost his seat in the Senate.

  30. Dave in Marybrook

    A tin water tank inside an enclosure can make a thermal mass- you can then gate it off, and use it for heat exchange to manipulate the temp of the rest of the interior.
    Bit of a funny feeling to live alongside, tho.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Derryn Hinch is signing off for good from SkyNews saying that the viewers didn’t take to him. I thought that was obvious when he lost his seat in the Senate.

    Good riddance.

  32. Overburdened

    Some time back I mentioned staying with a bloke I trained for 8 or so years in his mansion and then visiting his other mansion, and then me returning to my camp and musing on the irony of life.

    I’m happy as Larry and I wouldn’t want to live in either place, impressive as they are.

    Anyhow he has asked to call in on his way somewhere else.

    I advised him that he will experience reduced circumstances and a spartan regime.

    He responded well to that.

    I reckon a few hours training in soft sand should chirp him up.

  33. MatrixTransform

    end up in a recursive loop learning about herself learning about herself

    heh he.

    I’m borrowing that

  34. Not a fan of chlorination or bromination. Bromates and chlorates are nasty.

    I’m more comfortable with water fluoridation than how we disinfect the water.

  35. Entropy

    I do t know why there are still any state based farmer organisations still supporting the NFF. And god knows those outfits need the money. I suspect it lives on project based funding paid for by the feds.

    But ever since the time the NFF thought it would be a good idea for a Sustainable Production Certificate for farmers, vetted by the Australian Conservation Fund, I realised they are a bunch of naive fuckheads that are not to be trusted.

    This $5 billion fund proposed by Wendy Craik isn’t $5 B per year. It is an investment vehicle in which some of the earnings go to these activities on farm.

    The next idea, no doubt promoted by vegans, climate capers and anti humans will be that natural resource management funding can replace agricultural production altogether. It will have a monitiring bureaucracy and will pay car in credits etc for stewards of the land. The latest version of green jobs. And just as much bullshit.

    Think about it. The livestock industry in Queensland alone is worth $15b every year. Does anyone seriously think the millions of city voters will agree to transfer $15b from themselves to a few thousand landed gentry? I think not. But they might agree to a bunch of gullible fools in the NFF with an idea for a shonky sovereign wealth fund that tosses a few crumbs the producers way nder the control of a community minded natural resource management group.

  36. Tel

    Come to think of it, water storage oxygenation is a good use for small scale low voltage solar electricity because they unreliability does not matter and you don’t need to worry about batteries, or grid connect or anything complicated.

  37. Snoopy

    Team Greta had the iron topsail set when they were running late for Lisbon. Prove me wrong.

  38. The IPA’s Hey… What Did I Miss? | The Canberra Swamp is targeting conservatives

    Since 2017, the US has seen a $45 billion (AUD) reduction to the cost of red tape. Read the IPA’s latest report The Trump Administration’s Red Tape Reduction Agenda.

    All state and federal governments should adopt a one-in, two-out rule on red tape to ease Australia’s red tape crisis. As Daniel Wild wrote in The Daily Telegraph last week, such an approach has the chance to “produce a once-in-a-generation economic boom.”

    1,300 documents. That’s how many the Attorney General’s department compiled investigating Andrew Cooper under Australia’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme for organising CPAC Australia. As Evan Mulholland wrote in The Australian, this “possibly suggests a co-ordinated surveillance operation being run by unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats under the Attorney-General’s nose.”

    And on top of that the Department won’t hand over any of these documents to the IPA after our Freedom of Information request as Daniel Wild and Evan Mulholland told Sky News, because it would be too much of an imposition on them…but it’s OK to only give Andrew 14 days to hand over all of his documents or risk prison?

    Rugby Australia have settled out of court with Israel Folau this week, showing once again the cost of going woke. The IPA has been across this saga from the outset – revisit what John Roskam, Daniel Wild and Evan Mulholland have said about what this case shows about freedom of religion in Australia.

    ———————-

    Article of the week:

    The story of Golden Rice “is not a story of incompetence and ignorance, but of an antediluvian hostility to science and technology.” The great Matt Ridley in Quillette on Sunday shows how GMO alarmism destroys thousands of lives as Golden Rice was proved be safe time and time again but environmentalists stopped it getting to those who needed it most.

    IPA Staff Pick:

    Each week an IPA staff member shares what they have enjoyed recently. Today: Pat Hannaford

    Tax cuts and deregulation have done wonders for the American economy. The same cannot be said for Trump’s tariffs, which have recently been extended to Brazil and Argentina. In this excellent piece for National Review, Kevin D. Williamson dismantles the logic of Trump’s trade policy and outlines how it is harming the economy.

  39. JC

    Barr Indicts Eight Individuals for Illegally Funneling Millions In Foreign Money To Clinton’s Campaign in 2016

    Here we go. You go girl.

  40. MatrixTransform

    Chlorination

    Pool Hypo is fine just dont get it on yer clothes

  41. Top Ender

    More thrashing of the Dark Emu over at Quadrant….

  42. Snoopy

    Think about it. The livestock industry in Queensland alone is worth $15b every year. Does anyone seriously think the millions of city voters will agree to transfer $15b from themselves to a few thousand landed gentry?

    If it means they get to live on Chinese pork and melamine infused dairy products they might buy it.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    James Bond: No Time To Die trailer stars 007’s deadliest Aston Martin

    By Jack Malvern
    The Times
    12:59PM December 5, 2019
    1 Comment

    With its tyres squealing and engine firing, an Aston Martin DB5 bursts on to the screen at the start of the trailer for the forthcoming James Bond film.

    The model, which made the first of its five appearances in the film franchise in 1964, has always been regarded as the most beautiful of the spy’s cars but it is being recast as possibly his deadliest.

    The trailer for No Time to Die, the fifth Bond film to star Daniel Craig as the secret agent, shows him driving through an unidentified Mediterranean village until he comes to a halt in a square surrounded by what appears to be eight gunmen.

    He activates a pair of multi-barrelled machine guns hidden in recesses behind the motor’s headlights and spins the car in a circle, apparently killing all eight assailants. If the body count is as high as it appears, the DB5 will rival the deadliness of the Lotus Esprit S1 driven by Roger Moore in The Spy Who Loved Me, which was clocked up eight kills in the whole film.

    From the Oz.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    Derryn Hinch is signing off for good from SkyNews saying that the viewers didn’t take to him. I thought that was obvious when he lost his seat in the Senate

    Good.
    Fuck off.
    Don’t let the door etc, etc.

  45. MatrixTransform

    That’s probably hypochlorite.

    keeps the algae outta my 150 litre day tank in the garden.

    only needs about 40 ml

  46. DrBeauGan

    I wonder what it is like to watch this sober?

    I managed five minutes and eight seconds stone cold sober. It was crap.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Dave in Marybrook

    #3253267, posted on December 5, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    A tin water tank inside an enclosure can make a thermal mass- you can then gate it off, and use it for heat exchange to manipulate the temp of the rest of the interior.
    Bit of a funny feeling to live alongside, tho.

    Well, yes.
    That was my view watching it.
    If you want to do it, create an integrated water tank as part of the wall, rather than those figure-eight plastic tanks.
    More water in a much narrower footprint.
    Funny thing is, the dick only talked about water storage but not thermal mass.

  48. JC

    One of the far Left “professors” put up at the D’rats impeachment show trial is Jeffrey Epstein’s nephew.

  49. The Highlander was the cheese we used to quote in high school is we were really bored because the cheese was so damn amusing.

    As in being in detention, or on a 3 hr bus trip to a museum of socialist glory.

    “Are you a facchot, Nash?”

    “You went down to the garage for a blow job. You just didn’t want to pay for it.”

    “If you wanna blow, dial O”

    “I’m candy…*why you must be*”

    “It’s better to burn out than to fade away, worms!”

    Quality writing.

  50. Farmer Gez

    Tel
    #3253216, posted on December 5, 2019 at 8:18 pm
    Breaking. National farmers federation declares ecological services, to be regulated by the State, shall become the social justice future of Australian agriculture. For money.

    That would be the National Subsidy Farmers Federation … different bunch of blokes I presume.

    Stop all yer yabbering Tel and just give me the cash or I’ll send round the mulesing team to give you a short back & sides.

  51. Crossie

    Once again Nicholas Reece on SkyNews misunderstands completely the voting public’s attitude to public servants in the positions of department heads. No, we do not think that the politicians are bad bosses, they are there representing us and we want them to sack the deep staters. Five of them is not enough, it should be all of them gone at each election.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    More thrashing of the Dark Emu over at Quadrant….

    Bolt makes interesting reading.

    More on the primary source for Dark Emu:

    Pascoe freely admits that he lifted almost the whole idea for Dark Emu from the published work of one, Rupert Gerritsen from his 2008 book, Australia and the Origins of Agriculture … As reported in The Australian in May 2019:

    “Gerritsen died in 2013 without ever achieving a university job, and Pascoe cites him as a scholar who languished in obscurity because his theories contradicted the mainstream view. ‘Rupert should have got all the credit for Dark Emu,’ [Pascoe] says candidly, a sentiment that gets ready agreement from Gerritsen’s brother Rolf, a professor of economic and indigenous policy studies at Charles Darwin University. ‘Ninety per cent of Bruce’s book is taken from my brother’s research,’ Rolf Gerritsen says …”

    Now ‘senior’ reporter Morton should have asked himself, why would it be that Gerritsen, the creator of 90% of Dark Emu, only “languished in obscurity”, whereas Pascoe, presenting the same information in his Dark Emu [and claiming to be Aboriginal], takes off into best-seller land?

    … it transpires that Gerritsen was one of modern Australia’s first, convicted terrorists :

    “In August 1972 he [Gerritsen] placed a bomb in the Perth office of the Department of Labour and National Service…The primitive device was timed to detonate early in the morning but failed to go off. He was subsequently arrested in Melbourne, extradited back to WA and bailed, but fled to New Zealand, where he was caught and extradited back to WA again in July 1973… Gerritsen pleaded guilty and served one year in Fremantle and Geraldton Regional prisons. He later renounced violence and direct action, but he continued throughout his life to be a social activist strongly committed to social justice and empowerment.” – See Ref 1 here, Ref 2 here and Ref 3 here.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    Crossie

    #3253302, posted on December 5, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    Once again Nicholas Reece on SkyNews …

    … puts on the red nose and big yellow shoes.

  54. Boambee John

    Barr Indicts Eight Individuals for Illegally Funneling Millions In Foreign Money To Clinton’s Campaign in 2016

    Is Skeletor one of them?

    Aren’t campaign finance violations one of the bees in m0nty’s capacious bonnet? Will he run with this story? I know, silly question!

  55. Dark Emu was written 90% by the Viet Minh.

    Where’s Private “Never Been to an RSL” when you need him to comment?

  56. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I see some of the scum has leaked out of the sewer again.
    Pity it didn’t stay in Cuba – in its filth-ridden, diseased element.
    But it didn’t, so I guess it’s a movie tonight.

  57. Tel

    Bloomberg now must account for this entire media empire against his campaign finance budget … now that he has admitted the entire apparatus is anti-Trump. Right?!?

    I mean it’s hardly counted as an independent PAC while he’s still managing the thing.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    The trailer for No Time to Die, the fifth Bond film to star Daniel Craig as the secret agent, shows him driving through an unidentified Mediterranean village …

    Matera, Puglia, Italy.

  59. Steve trickler

    Great choice of music, Mr Heller.

    Colorado Governor Jared Polis Says Colorado will be carbon-free by 2040. Unfortunately, the planet only has 4,066 days left however.



  60. Leigh Lowe

    Herald Sun guy on Sky reckons Corbyn is a chance to win.
    I think he is a moron.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dark Emu was written 90% by the Viet Minh.

    There’s a special edition, written for use in schools. Marcia Langton has another book with another special edition aimed at schools, and from memory, there’s a third title, about Uluru with yet another special edition for children.

  62. Knuckle Dragger

    We used to try and work out Nash’s accent. Unsuccessfully. At least one punch-on ensued.

    ‘Where ya from, Nash?’

    *Blue Steel*

    ‘Lots of different places.’

  63. kaysee

    Arky
    #3252667, posted on December 5, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Apparently just talking to myself on here.
    OK.
    I have stuff to do anyway……

    Arky, it’s after 9.30 pm. Long past your 11:09 am comment. There are a number of Cats who responded to your comment – all valid points.
     
    Most of the time, I am catching up with a thread or OF on this blog much later in the day, or even several days later. While I am going through the thread, there are some comments I scroll past because they have no value for me – trolls, troll-feeds, soliloquies, or topics that do not interest me.
     
    There are others that I find interesting and read closely. Sometimes, I would like to respond to a comment, but then realize I am way behind in the discussion for what I say to make any sense. On some occasions, I don’t have enough time to read and respond, so I make do with just the first option.
     
    I am sure that there are others like me who have time limitations or prefer to be lurkers. So, I join the conversation if I think I have something to say and have the time to type a response. I don’t worry too much if there is no response, because I am often the lurker, learning from or enjoying what someone has posted even though I haven’t responded.
     
    Most readers are wise enough to sift through pages, and if you are saying something of genuine value – be it profound and highbrow, or witty and amusing, or just something ordinary and in-between, you’ve made a contribution. You may not get a readable response, but don’t believe you are talking to yourself or wasted your time typing a comment. Somewhere out there, there are (or will be at a later stage), Cats nodding, smiling, frowning, grinning, ………………………….
    😆🤓😀😊😞😏😫😖🤔🤤😮😑😜😧🙃😘 😒🙂

  64. Knuckle Dragger

    Do not be fooled, kaysee.

    Right this second Arky’s not only reading these responses to his ‘get fucked’, but printing them out, taping them to his mirror and scrawling ticks or crosses on them in lipstick.

  65. Entropy

    Do I get a tick, I wonder?

  66. Leigh Lowe

    If a comment falls in the internet forest and no-one replies, did it ever really happen?

  67. Whalehunt fun

    Yes because the NSA recorded it.

  68. Arky

    Crosses.
    All crosses.
    I have my eye on all of you all the time, even when I’m watching cheesy 80’s movies.
    Quick quiz, name another 80’s sci-fi movie with a Queen soundtrack aside from Highlander.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    Soshul meeja will be the death of us all.

    I have just learned through this medium that there is an actual thing called a ‘heated beard straightener’.

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    Happy Feet.

    No, wait.

  71. Whalehunt fun

    in lipstick.

    ?

    Or in the blood of sacrificed Greens liberally salted with the evaporated tears of global warming cultists tracked in the dungeon.

    That is what I find works best.

  72. Snoopy

    Peter O’Brien in Quadrant as linked to by Top Ender.

    …the colonisation of Australia was based, according to international law of the time, on the fact that Aborigines were nomadic hunter-gatherer clans that had not coalesced into a self-governing nation with a uniform legal code.

    The essential premise of Dark Emu is to overturn both those realities.

    TheirABC’s hard-on for Dark Emu. Explained.

  73. egg_

    thrashing of the Dark Emu

    Is that like choking the chicken?
    Spanking the monkey?

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘Where ya from, Nash?’

    From another planet.
    Nash is a hat tip to The Time Masters by Wilson Tucker, whose main character was a guy called Gilbert Nash who a lady investigator works out is very very old and is searching for others like himself.
    Good SF novel from 1953, not well known. I must dig up my copy and read it again.

  75. Whalehunt fun

    racked, not tracked.

  76. cohenite

    Raelene castle is even uglier than Maxine waters.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    In fact it’s a double hat tip since Tucker invented Tuckerization. 😀

  78. max

    MV and Elle, would appreciate the opinion of two old pros on the following:

    Bad sex award twosome: prize goes to Didier Decoin and John Harvey

    Decoin, a French author who received the Prix Goncourt in 1977 for his novel John l’Enfer, won for passages in his novel The Office of Gardens and Ponds, a fable set in Japan 1,000 years ago. It includes descriptions such as: “Katsuro moaned as a bulge formed beneath the material of his kimono, a bulge that Miyuki seized, kneaded, massaged, squashed and crushed. With the fondling, Katsuro’s penis and testicles became one single mound that rolled around beneath the grip of her hand. Miyuki felt as though she was manipulating a small monkey that was curling up its paws.”

    Harvey, the author of five novels and a life fellow at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, was nominated for his novel Pax, which featured this scene: “She was burning hot and the heat was in him. He looked down on her perfect black slenderness. Her eyes were ravenous. Like his own they were fire and desire. More than torrid, more than tropical: they two were riding the equator. They embraced as if with violent holding they could weld the two of them one.”

    This is the first time either author has won the prize. In a statement announcing the result on Monday night, the judges said: “Faced with two unpalatable contenders, we found ourselves unable to choose between them. We believe the British public will recognise our plight.”

  79. JC

    cohenite
    #3253344, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:35 pm

    Raelene castle is even uglier than Maxine waters.

    But then you’ve never really liked women much, have you?

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Even Rita Panahi’s saying Castle should go.

    Ray Castle is a dude who’s milked waaaaaaay too much sympathy just for not having hair.

    Every night it must be tucking into cheesecake and laughing its guts out.

  81. JC

    I don ‘t how Ray can keep his job after this massive beclowning.

  82. Dave in Marybrook

    What with the Turner art prize being a foursome tie, and the Booker split between two ladies……… these junket galas of prole-propped preening from the arts aristocracy are becoming incestuous love-ins akin to the more unlikely SBS movies of the 90’s Friday Night slot.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Her breasts were heaving like a first year uni student after happy hour.’

  84. JC

    This Morrison move, culling the top levels of the APS is a great move. It brings more power to the government as those useless fucks will be continually looking back to see if there’s a knife about to be implanted in their backs. It also shows these deadbeats who’s boss.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3253351, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:44 pm

    I don ‘t how Ray can keep his job after this massive beclowning.

    Ray is gonski.
    Yeah. Nah. Wasn’t 8 meg. And might be covered by insurance. Maybe. You never know.
    I hear RA are thinking about appointing a woman CEO.
    Might be worth a try.
    Maybe.
    You never know.

  86. cohenite

    But then you’ve never really liked women much, have you?

    Castle and waters are women?

    I like your feminine side head prefect; it’s like the smell of old leather with a whiff of cigar held in a limp wrist.

  87. Old School Conservative

    JC
    #3253351, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:44 pm
    I don ‘t how Ray can keep his job after this massive beclowning.

    She will keep it in the short term because the current board of RA briefed her on what to do, say, and how much to offer Israel.
    A board election is due in April. 4 spots are open. It is possible a new board may punt her.

    I hope so.

  88. Old School Conservative

    I advised him that he will experience reduced circumstances and a spartan regime.
    I reckon a few hours training in soft sand should chirp him up.

    Overburdened is actually Percy Cerutty.

  89. JC

    Can Folau go back to playing rugby now? Does anyone know?

    Cronkite, as a bush lawyer, does this settlement in any way settle the matter for any similar entanglement in the future or is it still unsettled law? Do you know if settlements impacts future cases?

  90. mh

    JC, forecast is 38 degrees for Brisbane on Saturday.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3253363, posted on December 5, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    Can Folau go back to playing rugby now? Does anyone know?

    Put it this way.
    If he said tomorrow he would very much like to rugger again, which rugger administrator would emulate the Vicar and blow up their career by saying no?

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Prediction.
    In 12 months time, Castle will be gone, Qantas will be gone and Izzy will be playing rugger again.

  93. JC

    JC, forecast is 38 degrees for Brisbane on Saturday.

    FMD. At least the hotel we’re staying has a pool. But I can’t be in the sun because I’m on antibiotics. Might in a sickie tomorrow.

    The bride’s from Victoria and the groom is from Perth. They could have had the do in Melbourne. We saw them in Rome earlier this year. They’re both doctors and she’s the classic case of someone who should not be doing or saying anything other than medical bullshit. The Pell case was red hot back when we saw them and the niece in law reckoned it was okay for Pell to spend the full period in jail because of the past things the church had done. This is someone whose spent almost a decade learning med and a specialty and I had to hear this insane bullshit.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #3253337, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Peter O’Brien in Quadrant as linked to by Top Ender.

    …the colonisation of Australia was based, according to international law of the time, on the fact that Aborigines were nomadic hunter-gatherer clans that had not coalesced into a self-governing nation with a uniform legal code.

    The essential premise of Dark Emu is to overturn both those realities.

    TheirABC’s hard-on for Dark Emu. Explained.

    Ah, so the great placating promise of the Mabo shit (no private titles would be touched) goes out the window?

  95. JC

    the colonisation of Australia was based, according to international law of the time,

    I very much doubt there was any international law at the time. Of course there were treaties and shit like that, but there was nothing that resembled international law as we appear to have now… Might made right then and President Miller appears to be trying to take us back to those times. All good.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    I very much doubt there was any international law at the time.

    I think International Law in 1788 was like … “We’ve got more bigger ships with brass cannons. Now fuck off.”

  97. Entropy

    36 tomorrow. I am going to a rooftop possum at the Victory. Could be toasty.

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    Yup.

    Force of conquest. Winners are grinners and losers are shit. The human race writ large.

    The End.

  99. mh

    Jim Kessler

    @ThirdWayKessler
    At this point, we have 7 Democrats qualified for the December debate stage and they are all white. This is sickening.

    4:28 AM – Dec 4, 2019

    The 7 candidates are sickening.

  100. Entropy

    Rooftop possum? Pissup. As in drinking.

  101. Leigh Lowe

    Jim Kessler

    @ThirdWayKessler
    At this point, we have 7 Democrats qualified for the December debate stage and they are all white. This is sickening.

    And none of the white folks can beat orange man.
    Funny.
    In 2016 no-one pointed out that the Chardonnay sponge in pantsuits was sickeningly white.
    Why was that?

  102. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    …the colonisation of Australia was based, according to international law of the time, on the fact that Aborigines were nomadic hunter-gatherer clans that had not coalesced into a self-governing nation with a uniform legal code.

    International law, at the time, offered three choices

    – With a friendly, sovereign, power, make a treaty, and persuade them to accept European settlers

    – With an unfriendly, sovereign power, declare them an enemy – as Abel Tasman did, in New Zealand, when the Maori attacked his landing parties

    – In lands with no sovereign power, or visible signs of government, claim the land for the Crown.

  103. JC

    There was domestic law and practices projecting outward to conquered lands or potentially conquered territory. There was no international law in the modern sense, you idiot Ronery. STFU and sticking to your core strength, which is posting shitty little comments joining others in attacking numbernuts.

  104. Knuckle Dragger

    Shit Towns of Australia update – Gold Coast:

    ‘Popular staples of Gold Coast nightlife include visiting a vampire-themed cabaret staffed entirely by people who look like they recently failed HIV tests, getting attacked by a lower grade rugby league player with roid rage or being thrown off a balcony after a Tinder date gone wrong.’

  105. Zyconoclast

    But, back to Andrew Yang…

    Complete wanker. He reckons Asian Americans are one generation away from a new KKK (white men) specifically targeting people who look like him.

    Does he still talk about UBI?

  106. Zyconoclast

    Chlorination

    Pool Hypo is fine just dont get it on yer clothes

    Don’t forget to make sure there is no cyanuric acid in the chlorine if you intend to drink the water.

  107. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3253383, posted on December 5, 2019 at 11:45 pm

    Shit Towns of Australia update – Gold Coast:

    Or, in late November/early December the prospect of being flattened by a schoolie who has just downed six UDL tins and a statin tablet (which he thinks is a party drug) and does a tribute to Peter Roebuck from the 20th floor balcony of some shitty apartment block.
    And all because he did maths in a Victorian High School and didn’t realise 20 was a big number.

  108. Hazmatic

    We are all familiar with the story, but it comes in three distinct flavours

    THE ORIGINAL 2007 VERSION

    Boat People – in Retrospect
    Fellow Blogger, do you remember the influx of Vietnamese boat people between 1975 and 1990? I have clear and vivid memories because in the period 1976 – 1980, I was in charge of a unit for disabled high school kids in a Western Brisbane High School. At the time in the same school, a unit had been set up to provide schooling for Vietnamese adolescents who had arrived, mostly on boats.
    I had a bus license, and also had access to a bus through a neighbouring Special School, and on a few occasions was shanghaied to drive busloads of these kids and their teachers around to attend movies and community activity. It was a good deal, as I was able to trade my time for help and resources from the well-equipped migrant unit. The Vietnamese kids were also very good to the students in my unit. I also used to try my ex-army Vietnamese out on them – not very successfully. “Show me your ID card” and “Stop or I’ll shoot”, didn’t always go down well with youngsters who had recently escaped military oppression.

    On one occasion, I was driving a group of about twenty to a movie showing at Enoggera (can’t remember the theatre’s name) to watch “To Kill a Mockingbird”. The theatre was just down the road from the Enoggera Army Base where I was discharged early in 1971 after returning from Vietnam. As I parked the bus in front of the theatre, and the Vietnamese students started filing out, I heard shouting. A car had pulled up in the left lane of the two-lane road beside which the bus was parked, and the bloke behind the wheel was loudly abusing the Vietnamese students as they got out of the bus.
    “F**king Noggie bastards”, “Slant-eyed C**ts” were some of the things I heard.
    Fortunately, the teachers hustled the students into the theatre very quickly, and I don’t think their command of English was sufficient to completely understand, but they must have known that his intent was hostile.
    I started to get out of the bus, but by the time I did, he’d driven off. I got a good look at him, and despite the fact that he wasn’t in uniform, I was certain he was army by the look of his hairstyle.
    Despite this incident, I’m firmly of the opinion that most Australians have a tolerant attitude towards Refugees. This was a very isolated incident.

    THE 2013 VERSION
    1735099
    #1019049, posted on October 1, 2013 at 9:51 am
    Back then, I ran a unit for disabled kids in Corinda State High in Brisbane.
    It’s illustrative of the rich vein of xenophobia that Howard so successfully exploited in 2001, to relate an incident that occurred at that time.
    I had a bus license, so did a deal with the Teacher in charge of the unit established on the same campus for Vietnamese boat kids to drive them on excursions if they would act as helpers for the wheelchair bound kids on the same occasions.
    One day, I drove a mixed group (Vietnamese kids and kids with disabilities) to Enoggera cinema to watch “To Kill a Mockingbird”.
    As I pulled up in front of the cinema, a bloke in army fatigues proceeded to scream abuse at the kids. It was directed at the Vietnamese, not the wheelies. The Vietnamese kids didn’t have enough English to understand what he was on about. The wheelies did.
    He left after I threatened to call his CO, but I had a lots of very distressed kids to deal with. He was probably a Vietnam Vet – was about the right vintage.

    THE 2014 VERSION
    1735099
    #1366448, posted on July 1, 2014 at 6:42 pm
    In 1977 I was teaching at Corinda State High which at the time had a cohort of newly-arrived Vietnamese kids fresh off the boats.
    I combined a group of them with a class of kids with disabilities on an excursion to go and see “To Kill a Mockingbird” at a cinema at Enoggera, not far from the army base where I had been discharged 6 years prior. The Vietnamese kids needed the language practice, and the wheelies needed able-bods to push their wheelchairs. I drove the bus and supervised the group.
    On arriving in front of the cinema, and as the kids were getting out of the bus, a bloke with an army haircut in civvie clothes appeared and proceeded to abuse the Vietnamese kids calling them “dirty stinking noggie c**ts”. I got the kids into the cinema ASAP.
    The Vietnamese kids couldn’t understand English well enough to construe his meaning, but a couple of the kids with disabilities ended up in tears.

    There are obvious inconsistencies.

    The major inconsistency has already been pointed out. Why was a film theatrically released in 1962 still playing in a suburban Brisbane Cinema in 1977? Quite odd and never adequately explained.

    Maybe not so obvious is the ‘a bloke in army fatigues’. In 1977 Diggers were wearing what they wore a decade earlier. The bloke was wearing ‘greens’. Add ‘army fatigues’ to ’locked and loaded’ on the list of Americanisms…

    Now whether this ‘bloke’ was wearing uniform or civvies and just recognisable due to the cut of his hair; critical to establishing the fact this probable ‘Vietnam Veteran’ is a very nasty man is the location -Enoggera. Next to the army base.

    The location of Enoggera is consistent in all three iterations and vital to the yarn.

    The problem is that Enoggera has never had a movie theatre. Not now. Not in 1977. Not ever.

    The closest Cinema to Enoggera was in Enoggera Terrace Red Hill. Ironically ‘To Kill a Mockingbird” might have been one of the last movies shown there because it burnt down in 1964.

    Clear and vivid memories my arse…

  109. JC

    This is really great work and it applies to us too.

    In the 2010s, New York opened two subway extensions (7extension, Second Avenue Subway) for $1.3-1.6 billion/km.This decade, Paris has built several M ́etro extensions (M4, M12 inservice; M1, M11, GPX under construction) for around $250million/km.The most recent Madrid Metro extensions (L2, L9) cost $85million/km.The big question:why

    and , it’s mind bloggling

    New York is planning to have spent around $35 billion between2005 and 2030 on subway and commuter rail expansion. But it’sonly getting 15 km of new tunnel!Paris is spending a similar amount over the same period:e40billion, for a total of 228 km, 187 underground.Madrid, a much smaller city, spente10 billion in 1995-2015 on234 km, around 180 underground.The limiting factor to subway expansion is cost

    More here:

    https://pedestrianobservations.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/costspresentation2.pdf

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Clear and vivid memories my arse…

    Interesting reading, Hazmatic – my compliments, and thank you. I don’t ever remember “fatigues.” I remember “greens” as in “work dress” and “Greens ceremonial”, but I don’t ever remember “fatigues.”

  111. Mark A

    Leigh Lowe
    #3253329, posted on December 5, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    If a comment falls in the internet forest and no-one replies, did it ever really happen?

    forest

  112. Rex Mango

    Hazmatic, yep army fatigues is spot on. Got a treasured book at my parents house entitled WW2 Uniforms and fatigues is every second word. However, move on twenty years it is indeed greens. The film he took the kids to in 1977 was most probably Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

  113. BrettW

    Hazmatic,
    Whilst it may not have been called the Enoggera cinema there most definitely was a cinema just up the road from the Army base. Within about 200m from base on Samford Road and about 200m before Gaythorne RSL. No longer exists and knocked down about 15 years ago. Saw a movie there probably a year before it closed. Was a very old style cinema and I would guess it was there in 1977. Was called the Gaythorne Cinema and it is next suburb after Enoggera.

    However excellent points above regarding similar stories.

    “The problem is that Enoggera has never had a movie theatre. Not now. Not in 1977. Not ever.”

  114. Tom

    Angus Taylor Derangement is A Thing for media leftards like David Rowe.

  115. DrBeauGan

    Thanks, Tom. Leak the younger and Zanneti uphold the honour of Australia today.

  116. will

    BrettW
    #3253400, posted on December 6, 2019 at 1:59 am
    Was called the Gaythorne Cinema and it is next suburb after Enoggera.

    I also recall attending he Gaythorne cinema. It had canvas (or were they hessian? hard to tell in the dark) seats!

  117. I’m more comfortable with water fluoridation than how we disinfect the water.

    Fluorine chemist says that Chlorine salts are friendlier than Fluorine salts.

    Better to have Cl attached to your organics than Fluorine.

  118. Win

    Thanks Tom. What a great way to start the day.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s one for Marcus Classis/Mk50 who I know is interested in the Battle of Coronel and what followed.

    WW1 Archaeology shock: German battleship sunk by British Navy found near Falklands

    The Falkland’s Maritime Heritage Trust located the ruins of SMS Scharnhorst after a gruelling five year search. The armoured battleship was sunk during one of the biggest sea battles in history. In November 1914, a German naval fleet, who were under the command of officer Maximilian von Spee, overpowered the British Navy off the coast of the Falklands.

    A team from the trust had been using four Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUVs), exploring a search box of approximately 4,500km squared of seabed.

    The Scharnhorst was discovered 98 nautical miles – a nautical mile is based more on the circumference of Earth – south east of Port Stanley at a depth of 1610 metres.

  120. 1735099

    The problem is that Enoggera has never had a movie theatre. Not now. Not in 1977. Not ever.

    No, but Gaythorne has, and this is the theatre in question. Brisbanites (as I was then) colloquially called it the “Enoggera Theatre”.
    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all, you’d know that the locality is variously called “Enoggera”, “Gaythorne”, or occasionally “Mitchelton” or “Mitchy”.
    It is located on Samford road, and operated until 2012.
    I saw The Motorcycle Diaries there in the last decade, as well as Good Night and Good Luck.

    BrettW is on the money.

    Was a very old style cinema and I would guess it was there in 1977. Was called the Gaythorne Cinema and it is next suburb after Enoggera.

    Next Sherlock Holmes waxes all forensic –

    The major inconsistency has already been pointed out. Why was a film theatrically released in 1962 still playing in a suburban Brisbane Cinema in 1977? Quite odd and never adequately explained

    The only “odd” feature of this is your strange ignorance of the fact that To Kill a Mockingbird is a classic that has been on the English curriculum in Australia on and off for years. Cinema owners are/were quite aware of this, and would show it (and other older releases of similar genre) because they knew that they could attract high schoolers and fill the seats.
    Stick to military history, although God knows you’re half-arsed at that as well. Was Gibbo a Nasho?

    Oh, and the use of “fatigues”.
    I write for an audience. That word is used because today’s audience (a lot younger than most who read this scrofulous blog) know exactly what it means. The alternative “Greens” more readily accepted by the ex-military or wannabe military who tend to gravitate here, for a larger audience means a political party. Sad but true.
    There is a strange and significant aspect to this over the top reaction when I use non-kosher military terminology.
    It shows that some, who have nothing much to distinguish them from your average Joe except military service, will cling on to something as arcane as the patois they used when in uniform to make them feel significant.
    That behaviour comes from the same place as this.
    They object to a non-member of their exclusive little club having the gall to use (and misuse) their sacred secret language.
    But to reiterate the facts of the incident.
    When driving a bus full of disabled kids and Vietnamese refugees, I was witness to foul racist abuse from an ex-serviceman in 1977. That same racist mindset continues, although it is directed to a different target minority. That same abuse is a daily feature of this scrufulous blog. I’m unpopular here because I call it out.
    So keep attempting to smear my credibility old mate, but do try to make a better job of it.
    Or keep face planting.
    Setting you straight on the facts of history is more than a little diverting, and a great way of warming up the grey matter early in the morning.

  121. Bubbles

    Ooooh Yes! The Gaythorne Cinema. The memories almost hurt.
    Canvas deck chair seats designed for two people. How good was that? I have no idea if they ever showed movies during the Saturday arvo matinee. Certainly nobody was watching. Afternoon delight indeed.
    Poor harassed manager patrolling the aisles with a torch trying to, uh hum, instill a degree of decorum and getting pelted with lollies.
    The older brother of a mate of mine was an entrepreneurial fellow with a well developed sense of social responsibility. He would buy bulk ‘frenchies’, which were not available for sale to us young teens, and flog them to us outside the cinema (pictures).
    Better than rolling Jaffas down the aisles. And, you could smoke as well.

  122. Mark A

    Numbers,
    I’m unpopular here because I call it out.

    No Bob, you are wrong about that, you are unpopular because of your objectionable personality and your uncompromising politics.
    There is simply no chance of having a polite discussion with you, you refuse point blank to see the other side of the arguments and when proven wrong you don’t acknowledge it, you depart, and or obfuscate.

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    this scrofulous blog

    You don’t like it, you are free to leave.

    Your only value to me this morning is reminding me of Enoggerah in Brisbane and being free to leave. I spent three nights there in 1960 in a Salvation Army Girl’s Hostel when I was direly in need of a bed. Told them I was eighteen when I was only seventeen, because they kept anyone under eighteen under supervision; some of the girls there were incarcerated. I left asap claiming I had a job with a radio station, but it was only casual writing and then reading out a few advertisements (plummy voice came in useful once again). Enough to pay for a boarding house room for a couple of weeks.

    The Salvos let me go, in those days before ID was ever checked.

  124. John Constantine

    Big Australia means importing so many millions of the worlds poorest people to vote for crony socialism gets us so wealthy we can hand crony donor class rorters the concessions to build subways at over a billion dollars a kilometer.

    So domestic slaves can subway from downtown where houseprice apartheid keeps them, to uptown, where the elites have lost the capacity to scrub their own dunnies and boil their own water for breakfast.

  125. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I write for an audience.’

    Mr DeMille, I’m ready for my close up now.

    ‘That word is used because today’s audience (a lot younger than most who read this scrofulous blog) know exactly what it means.’

    No, Old Yeller. No, they don’t know what ‘fatigues’ means. The younger folk who you wholeheartedly believe follow your random syllables actually believe ‘army fatigues’ means ‘tired army man’.

    And ‘today’s audience’ is in fact exactly the wonderful people on this blog, and unfortunately for self-admitted subversive elderly socialists like yourself, that’s it. No more than that, despite your best efforts to create a new narrative to fit your story each time you tell it. Was this angry man in uniform or not?

    Still, it’s better than your usual riposte when caught out using Americanisms, or ‘more Seppo bullshit’ as you call it:

    ‘I’ll call it what I like’.

  126. John Constantine

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327132.php#5

    More and more studies are finding links between changes to gut microbes and brain conditions such as multiple sclerosis, autism, schizophrenia, depression, and Parkinson’s disease.

    However, there is still much debate about whether gut microbe changes actually cause these conditions or merely accompany them.

    Antibiotics kill your gut bugs, leading to brain disfunction is one theory.

    Fecal transplants?.

    Or just steering clear of doctors unless at deaths door.

    [ or if gut is that important, not loading it with crap and eating more meat.]

  127. 1735099

    Mick Keelty’s report includes a hat-tip for the ABC –

    Bipartisan political support has been critical in achieving greater levels of compliance. It has to be said that the extent of the matters the attention of the respective authorities leading to the establishment of the NBC role were not discovered by departmental compliance arrangements. They were discovered by investigative journalism – in particular the work of ABC 4 Corners journalist, Lynton Bessser in a program titled ‘Pumped’.

  128. Mater

    The older brother of a mate of mine was an entrepreneurial fellow with a well developed sense of social responsibility. He would buy bulk ‘frenchies’, which were not available for sale to us young teens, and flog them to us outside the cinema (pictures).

    Sounds exactly like the sort of establishment to take a bus load of refugee and disabled students.

  129. 1735099

    You don’t like it, you are free to leave.

    Staying is much more fun.
    Always happy to trigger a little nostalgia.
    By the way, I’m pretty sure it’s “Enoggera” not “Enoggerah”.
    I’ve never seen it written with an “h”.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    Speaking of Liability Bob:

    Faecal transplants.

    I’d never heard of this until just the other day. I was talking to someone about something and a bloke we both knew came up in conversation. Hadn’t see the bloke in years. I was told he got real crook real quick, and had batteries of tests all over the place etc but no-one could work out what the problem was. Wasn’t cancer, although was starting to resemble an end-stage patient.

    The bloke’s desperate missus found a professor of something from Down South, dragged old mate down there and he had his own shit removed, and some other bloke’s shit pumped into him. Spent a month in hospital, but after two weeks was a million per cent. Now he’s A1.

    Something about replacing the bacteria in his gut. I don’t know how someone gets around to thinking about this, but whoever did certainly wasn’t driving the spack bus for a living.

  131. Shy Ted

    Best First Flog cartoon ever. Remember, we’re laughing at him and not with him. And our usual suspects can get their crayons out and start colouring.
    In fact the Tardian has got a front page where every headline is barking. We live in wonderful times.

  132. John Constantine

    Another day, another billion dollars for the south american cartels in australia.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/recently-married-couple-and-it-worker-arrested-over-1-billion-drug-haul-20191205-p53hdf.html

    We know australian politicals will do anything for a plastic Aldi bag full of cash.

    Just interesting to note the sudden pivot towards South America as a source of herds to fuel Big Australia.

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    Rumours abound that Mick Keelty, much like Simon Overland in Vicco was a heavily-sponsored Labor stooge all his career, and was best described as a vengeful public servant in whichever uniform suited his needs at the time.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hairy and I relaxed last night sitting on our terrace listening to sea shanties on youtube and singing along to each other. After my hectic Arvo Tea seating fourteen with full-on vintage tea-cups and crystal for champers, and so much food, for the girls excelled themselves, we were in the mood for a sit-down sing-along and a rest together. Hairy the lone male had done sterling work as the waiter/butler/major domo and tender of the bottles. Amid the tea-party debris while clearing up we had started musing about being invited to a Sea Shanty Christmas party in a couple of weeks by a friend who always puts on a good musical shindig but which we’d had to decline due to a prior engagement, which musing naturally brought on shanty time.

    Last nite I wanted to sing Shenandoah, which I love and learned as a little girl at St. Mary’s Primary School in Sydney’s outer-western suburbs in the 1940’s, when education was education. Hairy was scornful, and said that’s not a sea-shanty; I argued it had a riverine theme, so we then allowed boatmen songs, which enlarged the field considerably from the likes of ‘The Boys of Killy Begs’ and other drunken Irish sailors on holy ground ‘foine girl you are’ etc. let alone that old English keelhauled drunk. In polite company though you simply sing ‘put him in the cabin with the Captain’s daughter’ (wink, wink etc).

    Shenandoah revived great shared memories of driving the Skyline Highway a few years ago, along the top of the ridge for 100 miles above the Shenandoah valley out from Charlottsville in the US Deep South, so it was easy to argue for. A Civil War song, muses Hairy, Andrew Jackson fought a hard campaign along the Shenandoah valley. A great evening together with a wee dram or two of Glenlivet Single Malt.

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    Ted,

    This First Dog fellow needs to start a) packing in the durries, and b) get a decent root.

    Both would cheer him up a bit.

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Lynton Bessser (sic) in a program titled ‘Pumped’./blockquote>

    Sspud sspelling misstakess.

  137. 1735099

    Sspud sspelling misstakess.

    Not mine.
    That’s a direct cut and paste from the report.
    Take it up with Mick Keelty.

  138. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    so wealthy we can hand crony donor class rorters the concessions to build tracks for toy trains* at over a billion dollars a kilometer

    * Sydneystan reference.

  139. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    Stop that.

    He writes for an audience. That apparently largely consists of Ita Buttrose.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We live in wonderful times.

    We live in times where people are without memory and without history. Sydney was covered in the dust of the outback in 2009 giving everything a hideous red tinge and green under electric lights, and it has been part of the wider climate for aeons. We had such dust storms, and great fires too, in the 1940’s and 50’s, as I remember well. These visitations from the bush are not unusual, nor do they signify anything but that we live in a burnable environment; made worse lately by failures of green councils to backburn. The great droughts of the 1870’s, 1890’s and the massive Federation drought are all forgotten, lost to history. Instead we have cartoonists giving us the End of Times and expecting us to take it seriously.

    The Grauniad dog can go bite his bum, as we used to say when we were kids to discourage sheer stupidity.

  141. 1735099

    Tuesday 3rd December was the International Day for People with Disabilities.

    I was reminded of this at last Sunday’s mass when a contingent from SPRED*, a diocesan organisation supporting this cohort of the population were involved actively in the service.

    This notion of participation was what led to the formation of the organisation in the first place.

    I became aware of SPRED as a new principal of one of the (then) three special schools in Toowoomba, late in the last century.

    One Monday morning my secretary told me that she had the Catholic Bishop of Toowoomba diocese on the phone. I had been the principal of five schools by this time, in various parts of the state, and this was the first time I had been phoned by a bishop.

    It turned out that he was aware that many children with disabilities often weren’t able to go through the routine sacramental preparation that was a vital part of Catholic practice, and was looking for ways of including them.

    He had thoroughly sensible ideas, some involving cooperation with my school, and I remember telling him we’d help where we could. The fact that I was a Catholic was neither here nor here.

    To cut a long story short, the idea morphed into a preparation programme that was implemented during religious instruction sessions at school, as well as with the parents at home. The parents of the participating children took turns in opening their homes to the parishioners who were offering the instruction, much in the same way as it worked for able-bodied children.

    It was a resounding success, but wasn’t without its moments. The bishop decided he’d have a dress rehearsal, which was fortunate, as when one of the children, a girl from the Phillipines with an intellectual impairment, first saw him in full regalia, she ran screaming from the church. She was quite unprepared for the mitre.

    This programme became annual, and was still successfully progressing when I retired in 2005.
    This same bishop got himself on the wrong side of the Vatican a few years later, and the rest is history.

    His ideas about inclusion and compassion were probably a little ahead of their time, faced with the clericalism that was a feature of the Australian church at the height of the stewardship of George Pell.

    There’s been plenty of water under the bridge since then.

    *SPecial Religious Education & Development

  142. 8th Dan

    I don’t ever remember “fatigues.”

    Ah, contemporaneous Aussie Digger terms.

    “fatigues” … “locked and loaded” … “fire in the hole” will be next.

    Hazmohno is a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

  143. Boambee John

    That’s a direct cut and paste from the report.

    Others might use copy and paste, so as not to leave gaps in the original.

  144. stackja

    2GB listener Ian tells ‘Cruise & Maritime Voyages’ Vasco da Gama going in circles off South Australia.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    More considered research from the pigtail aficionado, 8th Danielle.

    ‘“fatigues” … “locked and loaded” … “fire in the hole” will be next’

    They’re all your dear old Dad’s words, darlin’.

    But it’s ok. Keep Daddy on the pedestal. He writes for an audience.

  146. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    We live in times where people are without memory and without history.

    Indeed. I still remember the summer fires of 1993-94, which was the last time anything as monstrous as the greenfilth induced orange haze of last evening blighted this city. The 2009 dust storm barely rates in the consciousness.

    Instead we have cartoonists giving us the End of Times and expecting us to take it seriously.

    marlton, like that other insufferable pretentious collectivist bore cathy wilcox, is not a cartoonist. Both are incapable of drawing anything more basic than a stick figure.

  147. mh

    Poll: Trump Job Performance Hits 52 Percent Amid Impeachment

    A new poll showed that President Donald Trump’s approval rating reached 52 percent amid the fight against impeachment.

    Rasmussen Reports, a pollster the president frequently cites, said 52 percent of likely U.S. voters approve of his job performance while 47 percent disapprove.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/poll-trump-job-performance-hits-52-percent-amid-impeachment_3166296.html

  148. cohenite

    does this settlement in any way settle the matter for any similar entanglement in the future or is it still unsettled law? Do you know if settlements impacts future cases?

    Asks head prefect. The answer is no because there was no hearing or judgment in this matter. The issues are still unresolved.

  149. feelthebern

    I write for an audience.

    What an odd thing to say for someone desperate to be taken seriously as a scholar.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What gets me about that Guardian cartoon is how oblivious the cartoonist is to the fact that for years now the people in drought-striken country areas have been doing it tough, there have been ads on TV saying how difficult it is to live in the dust and dryness, but it is only when a greenie can’t cycle to work that he gets upset about the climatic variations of this land of ours. When the last productive food-producing farms are gone due to green policies of destroying Australian agriculture, I expect that is when he’ll start to grizzle about his rumbly hungry tummy; until then though, he’s charging ahead with the destruction.

    Speaking of which, why on earth is Scott Morrison joining the Dept of Agriculture with the Dept of Environment????? What a stoopid move that is. People on Bolt last night expressing the hope that Agriculture will somehow do well there, and maybe tone down the environmental pressures. In your dreams. Both are infested with full-on religious climateers, who will encourage each other, and if it comes to any toss, then the climate will always trump agricultural needs (witness the environmental flow Deep State and how embedded that is to try and dig out). Agriculture should be kept as far away from greenism as humanly possible. Scott, you have rocks in your head over this.

  151. feelthebern

    My fantastic Chinese staff have informed me this morning that in some regional dialects of Mandarin, blanchette translates to “arse-arse”.
    What fantastic news.
    What a fantastic contribution they’ve made today.

  152. Juan

    Big Australia means importing so many millions of the worlds poorest people to vote for crony socialism gets us so wealthy we can hand crony donor class rorters the concessions to build subways at over a billion dollars a kilometer.

    So domestic slaves can subway from downtown where houseprice apartheid keeps them, to uptown, where the elites have lost the capacity to scrub their own dunnies and boil their own water for breakfast.

    One of Australia’s main economic drivers is property.

    A healthy property market should be a consequence of a strong economy; instead, a strong economy is (hopefully) a consequence of a healthy property market.

    Unlike primary production, mining, tech, and other sectors, property does not generate any exports — something which is essential for survival for a small, open trading economy such as Australia’s.

    Unless … you develop property and sell it to foreigners! Then it becomes an export earner.

    I write this not as an apologia but rather to explain where we are and what would be required to change.

    Australia is a capital-importing country; and left to their own devices most Australians have a visceral preference to invest what capital they have in property rather than one of the more conventional export industries. Look at the SMSF reforms — the main aim of which was to allow direct property investment with superannuation funds — because investing in Iluka or Lynas just doesn’t feel the same as investing in bricks ‘n’ mortar.

    Forget abolishing Sunday penalty rates, which provided no discernible economic lift. Real economic reform entails a change in mindset to move away from property being the key to creating wealth, to productive export sectors which create ongoing employment for Australians.

  153. Snoopy

    2GB listener Ian tells ‘Cruise & Maritime Voyages’ Vasco da Gama going in circles off South Australia.

    If the ship is over a hole in the ocean floor, they could be in big trouble.

  154. feelthebern

    Chinese imports over the last 20 years overwhelmingly voted LNP at the federal election.
    & they aint poor.

  155. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘only when a greenie can’t cycle to work that he gets upset’

    Yeah nah, Lizzie.

    It’s only when a greenie THINKS he can’t cycle to work that he gets upset. Millions of noggies do it every day in far worse conditions, but when a pudgy Canberra bottom feeder sees smoke on the horizon it’s the End of Days.

    Reminds me of the Fawlty Towers episode where the old duck, clutching a handbag dog in the bar asks Basil to close a window because of a draught.

    ‘Indeed, madam. The sudden movement of air could damage him irreparably.’

  156. Leigh Lowe

    First Dog …
    “The biggest problem with these fires is they are giving my inner-city soy latte a smoky taste.”

  157. Mater

    When the last productive food-producing farms are gone due to green policies of destroying Australian agriculture, I expect that is when he’ll start to grizzle about his rumbly hungry tummy; until then though, he’s charging ahead with the destruction.

    Not before they have no electricity to charge their spittle flecked, venom filled mobile devices.

    Who can forget #hipstergeddon in Brunswick?

    Declan Fay tweeted that Brunswick hipsters had to “huddle for warmth around a single iPad. There is only 3% battery left”.

    Johan suggested that bearded men were under threat in Northcote.
    “Wild herds of cats are roaming down High St Northcote, dragging bearded men to the ground and devouring them.”

    Resident Justin Hamilton’s power stayed on, attracting residents who were presumably desperate to recharge their iPhones.
    “I’m warding off hipsters with nuts and grains as they congregate around my house, drawn to the light of working electricity,” he tweeted.

  158. stackja

    2GB listener suggests Vasco da Gama has run out of fuel.

  159. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    There are few people on this planet I consider more contemptible, disgusting and evil than those that go around trumpeting how much they “care” about people with disability, especially, when their “help” consists of little more than reaffirming the tyranny of low expectations. These despicable dirtbags* are a classic example – they have been wasting taxpayers’ money for over 15 years to try and have around 21,000 workers with severe disability thrown out of their jobs, all while claiming they know what’s best for the latter.

    Utter scum. There is a special place in hell for them, where they will rightfully burn for all eternity.

    *lawyers, of course. The lowest form of existence on this planet.

  160. Dave in Marybrook

    First Flog uses a “comic sans” font, where the typed words come out all hokey and fun and jumbly-looking. Like zir had written them out with a texta…
    Poseur.

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The 2009 dust storm barely rates in the consciousness.

    It does with me, because that was the day my mother died. Her funeral pyre.
    The harbor city cried for her in the dust that swirled around my heart that morning.

  162. Snoopy

    Why is there a Commonwealth Ag department at all?

  163. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    why on earth is Scott Morrison joining the Dept of Agriculture with the Dept of Environment?????

    To turbo charge the process of abolishing agriculture in this country.

  164. Des Deskperson

    ‘What gets me about that Guardian cartoon is how oblivious the cartoonist is to the fact that for years now the people in drought-striken country areas have been doing it tough,’

    My understanding is that Marlton was brought up in the very leafy Canberra suburb of Yarralumla, where encounters with farmers, or indeed anyone who had to earn a living and produce results under difficult conditions, would have been extremely rare.

  165. feelthebern

    Looks like the punters who want to work know where to go.
    From the WSJ.

    Workplace Immigration Inquiries Quadruple Under Trump

    Investigators with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement opened about four times the number of workplace investigations in the year ended Sept. 30 compared with the close of the Obama administration, according to new figures the agency provided to The Wall Street Journal.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    Hipstergeddon. Forgot about that one.

    ‘Replacement beanies are being handed out in a secret pop up location in a laneway’

    Bahahaaaa.

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Declan Fay tweeted that Brunswick hipsters had to “huddle for warmth around a single iPad. There is only 3% battery left”.

    And this is why, in any emergency, you head for the car, start it, and listen to the radio.
    Relying on batteries in the small radio in the cupboard to function still is a mistake.
    And keep in candles and matches. Battery technology is unreliable and will remain so.

    Relying on batteries is something only Malcolm Turnbull would do.

  168. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I guess you can charge the ipad in the car too; but where the hell is the lead to do that?
    I haven’t a clue where ours is.

  169. Juan

    Hairy and I relaxed last night sitting on our terrace listening to sea shanties on youtube and singing along to each other.

    It’s nice to see people still sit on their terraces.

    If you walk around Paddington in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs, you see so many beautiful renovated terraces house; but you’ll never see anyone sitting on the front porch or on the terrace!

  170. Leigh Lowe

    I am normally not a fan of clickbait headlines but this has a happy ending :-

    KAEPERNICK WORKOUT LEADS TO JOB WITH REDSKINS

    The Washington Redskins were one of the teams that attended Colin Kaepernick’s workout in Georgia last month. Their attendance was hard to explain because signing Kaepernick made no sense for the team.

    But now, the Redskins have made a signing based (at least in part) on what they saw during the Kaepernick workout. The Skins signed to their practice squad one of the wide receivers to whom Kaepernick threw passes

  171. Outside of mining and agriculture, can someone list the companies in AU that are (or have been) huge export earners?

  172. Juan

    why on earth is Scott Morrison joining the Dept of Agriculture with the Dept of Environment?????

    To turbo charge the process of abolishing agriculture in this country.

    Depends on who’s in charge. It’s an opportunity to subsume Environment within Agriculture. Whether if pans out that way is another matter.

  173. MatrixTransform

    Look at the SMSF reforms — the main aim of which was to allow direct property investment with superannuation funds

    very happy with the SMSF reforms
    without that reform other consolidated skimming bastards still have control of my capital.
    and btw it is my capital and I will invest where I please.

    It sounds like you mean buy shares in export
    you’d need to have bananas for brains to “invest” in exporting dirt right now

    Anyway, we don’t make anything to export mate, unless you mean creating … like in regurgitating new revisions of old ideas.

  174. Eyrie

    “These despicable dirtbags* are a classic example – they have been wasting taxpayers’ money for over 15 years to try and have around 21,000 workers with severe disability thrown out of their jobs, all while claiming they know what’s best for the latter.”

    Yep they totally screwed the Endeavour home in Toowoomba. They used to have some paddocks across the road where they grew veggies and sold them at a roadside stall. The paddocks are now grass and instead of some useful work in the fresh air they get none. The paddocks are grass now.

  175. cohenite

    Black Widow looks interesting too, although someone did say unfinished business:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3480822/videoplayer/vi3862544153?ref_=tt_ov_vi

  176. feelthebern

    The only coach that I thought would work well with Kaepernick was Ron Rivera at the Panthers.
    But he was sacked this week.
    As it currently stands, Kaepernick would struggle to make #3 QB on any of the 32 teams.
    & why would you pay much for a 3rd stringer, when everyone has at least one QB already on their practice squad ready to activate if anyone in their depth chart gets injured.

  177. Mark A

    incoherent rambler
    #3253508, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:11 am

    Outside of mining and agriculture, can someone list the companies in AU that are (or have been) huge export earners?

    Catamaran builders of Tassy. Huge ferries, big bikkies, ordrt book full.

  178. Mater

    But now, the Redskins have made a signing based (at least in part) on what they saw during the Kaepernick workout. The Skins signed to their practice squad one of the wide receivers to whom Kaepernick threw passes

    That’s a good news story, but surely neither Veasy nor Kaepernick are suited to the Redskins.

    From the story:

    Veasy knew Kaepernick from his Berkeley days. The anti-American quarterback had audited a class Veasy took on black representation in popular culture. Veasy reached out to Kaepernick’s representatives and landed a supporting role in the QB’s workout.

    The Washington Redskins are the anti-christ to ‘wokies’.

    Washington Redskins Name Controversy

  179. hzhousewife

    Voting LNP candidates in the chicom diaspora.

    I wonder if the ABC would have done an equally forensic examination of Jennifer Yang if she had won Chisholm – it was a close run race.

  180. Mark A #3253516, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:23 am

    Ok. One (1) and counting.

  181. MatrixTransform

    lawyers

    Can anybody find me somebody to sue?

    Ooh, each morning I get up I die a little
    Can barely stand on my feet
    (Take a look at yourself) Take a look in the mirror and cry (and cry)
    Lord, what you’re doing to me (yeah yeah)
    I have spent all my years in believing you
    But I just can’t get no relief, Lord!
    Somebody (somebody) ooh somebody (somebody)
    Can anybody find me somebody to sue?

    I work hard (he works hard) every day of my life
    I work ’til I ache in my bones
    At the end (at the end of the day)
    I take home my hard earned pay all on my own
    I get down (down) on my knees (knees)
    And I start to pray
    ‘Til the tears run down from my eyes
    Lord, somebody (somebody), ooh somebody
    (Please) can anybody find me somebody to sue?

    Everyday (everyday) I try and I try and I try
    But everybody wants to put me down
    They say I’m going crazy
    They say I got a lot of water in my brain
    Ah, got no common sense
    I got nobody left to believe in
    Yeah yeah yeah yeah

    Oh, Lord
    Ooh somebody, ooh somebody
    Can anybody find me somebody to sue?
    (Can anybody find me someone to sue)

    Got no feel, I got no rhythm
    I just keep losing my beat (you just keep losing and losing)
    I’m OK, I’m alright (he’s alright, he’s alright)
    I ain’t gonna face no defeat (yeah yeah)
    I just gotta get out of this prison cell
    One day (someday) I’m gonna be free, Lord!

    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue sue sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Find me somebody to sue
    Somebody somebody somebody somebody
    Somebody find me
    Somebody find me somebody to sue
    Can anybody find me somebody to sue?
    (Find me somebody to sue)
    Ooh
    (Find me somebody to sue)
    Find me somebody, somebody (find me somebody to sue) somebody, somebody to sue
    Find me, find me, find me, find me, find me
    Ooh, somebody to sue (Find me somebody to sue)
    Ooh (find me somebody to sue)
    Find me, find me, find me somebody to sue (find me somebody to sue)
    Anybody, anywhere, anybody find me somebody to sue sue sue!
    Somebody find me, find me sue

    sing along with Freddie

  182. Eyrie

    “It’s guilt-free family motoring — saving the planet without breaking the bank.”

    Car of the year – LOL! It still uses fossil fuels in manufacture and operation.
    Stick a fork in us, we’re done.

  183. mh

    PUTIN: ‘IN SOME COUNTRIES THE WORD “MOTHER” IS BEING REPLACED’

    “I hope we never have that in Russia.”

    https://www.infowars.com/putin-in-some-countries-the-word-mother-is-being-replaced/

  184. Juan

    Voting LNP candidates in the chicom diaspora.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-14/liberal-gladys-liu-linked-to-secretive-chinese-influence-network/11288210

    I think the key to unravelling the truth will be the $100,000 personal donation which Gladys Liu made to her own campaign.

    For a person of average means, this is a massive gamble on a very uncertain outcome. I doubt the funds came directly from dodgy sources — had that been the case I think this would have come to light by now — but what was Ms Liu’s thinking when she donated such a sum to her campaign? If you’re known as “Miss Moneybags” you’re probably not going to be thinking you’ll be slowly paying back the draw down on your mortgage over the next 10 years.

  185. Dr Faustus

    My fantastic Chinese staff have informed me this morning that in some regional dialects of Mandarin, blanchette translates to “arse-arse”.

    What an incredible coincidence.
    In my dialect of English, Blanchett translates to “arse” too.

  186. “Mother Russia” becomes “Person of no specific gender Russia”
    or
    “Mother Russia” becomes “Perambulating incubator Russia”

    Can’t see it happening.

  187. Juan

    Voting LNP candidates in the chicom diaspora.

    I wonder if the ABC would have done an equally forensic examination of Jennifer Yang if she had won Chisholm – it was a close run race.

    I look forward to someone doing that at some stage; if not the ABC, another media outlet.

    But even knowing very little I’m immediately more at ease with Jennifer Yang, who is of Taiwanese heritage.

    Now of course if it came out she has had close links to the KMT in Taiwan and CCP more generally, I’d change my view; but in the absence of any further details I go back to the fact Taiwan is like Australia – a small, open democracy trying to function as such while dealing with the challenge of PRC interference.

  188. Top Ender

    How to successfully acquire a weapons platform and use it – the implementation of the Charles F Adams class destroyers into the Royal Australian Navy in the 1960s.

    A great pity we have forgotten it, with the present oncoming disaster of the most expensive defence program in our history, the future submarine project.

  189. Geriatric Mayfly

    “I hope we never have that in Russia.”

    Mother Russia, will always be there for her brood.

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    you’ll never see anyone sitting on the front porch or on the terrace!

    Ours is quite private and overlooks the harbor through a slightly screening Jacaranda. We have another smaller one where there is no screening, and we often sit there too, on a distant display to those viewing from the ferry should they care to look up. But you are right, all around us in a harborside ‘dress circle’ are balconies, terraces, but you very rarely see people enjoying them, whereas in places like Santorini in the Greek Islands the terraces are alive with people enjoying an evening drink after the day.

  191. Entropy

    Snoopy
    #3253498, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:01 am
    Why is there a Commonwealth Ag department at all?

    Quarantine, make sure DFAT remembers ag in trade deals.

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3253499, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:02 am
    why on earth is Scott Morrison joining the Dept of Agriculture with the Dept of Environment?????

    To turbo charge the process of abolishing agriculture in this country.

    yes.
    No doubt it was a five second thought bubble “ how do we rein in the environment Dept”(Nats) never realising the bigger fish eats the smaller one, esp when there is a change of government. Then there is the “black hand” types in the libs who of course hate rural people and sniggered knowing they got one over the country bumpkins.

    Regardless, super departments end up increasing public service costs every time so it won’t even achieve that. The new super DG needs a large crew to tell her what is going on in the various sub agencies/branches. Extra reporting, extra layer.
    Morrison should instead reduced his ministry by two thirds and have one minister for each department. As it is at the moment you have the same public servants reporting to multiple ministers. A goat rodeo.

  192. Juan

    My fantastic Chinese staff have informed me

    What … Aussies not good ’nuff for you? 😜

  193. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sorry Rambler. You beat me. My keys are so covered in grime I am down to about three words per minute.

  194. The submarine contract will be cancelled at much expense (24 hours after the PRC puts a blockade on the Iron Strait).

  195. Roger

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all, you’d know that the locality is variously called “Enoggera”, “Gaythorne”, or occasionally “Mitchelton” or “Mitchy”.

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all you’d know that in those days – and probably still – those on each side of the river knew as much about the other as they did about England, probably less (“town” and “the Valley” being exceptions for those on the south side).

  196. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Catamaran builders of Tassy. Huge ferries, big bikkies, ordrt book full.

    We should be doing so much more of this sort of stuff.

    Sadly, our schooling system doesn’t do much to encourage it.
    Aboriginal mathematics can’t build catamarans in spite of Pascoe’s best efforts to convince us.

  197. Tom

    One of Australia’s main economic drivers is property.

    Bullshit.

    In Australia, the property market is strong because it’s the only way people can make money when the economy is fucked (the real economy — outside of the government spending ponzi — has been in recession for most of the past decade, choked to death by red and green tape).

  198. areff

    We live in times where people are without memory and without history. Sydney was covered in the dust of the outback in 2009 giving everything a hideous red tinge and green under electric lights, and it has been part of the wider climate for aeons.

    There has been interesting speculation that those irregular dust storms are vital for the fertility of the coastal regions in that they transport and drop essential trace elements from the interior.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You won’t easily turn Britannia into a bloke either. Nor Boadicea (Boudicca).

    Just as with Mother Russia. Symbols die hard.
    And thanks goodness for that.

  200. Juan

    But you are right, all around us in a harborside ‘dress circle’ are balconies, terraces, but you very rarely see people enjoying them, whereas in places like Santorini in the Greek Islands the terraces are alive with people enjoying an evening drink after the day.

    So porches and terraces becomes nothing more than sought after decorative details.

    I think it’s a reflection of how Australian society has changed over the decades.

    If someone sat on their front porch all morning or all afternoon, I think most people would think they’re a bit a busybody wanting to know their neighbours’ business; which is a terrible social faux pas these days. We have Facebook to find out other people’s business! 🤣

  201. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There has been interesting speculation that those irregular dust storms are vital for the fertility of the coastal regions in that they transport and drop essential trace elements from the interior.

    Yep. The hidden mould in the old kitchen had been coming along nicely with it over the years. 🙂

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think it’s a reflection of how Australian society has changed over the decades.

    The backyard barbie is still alive and well in the suburbs. Reduced in size though the plots may be, people still like to BBQ and have somewhere to sit and to gather friends and family around them outdoors.

  203. Juan

    Voting LNP candidates in the chicom diaspora.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-14/liberal-gladys-liu-linked-to-secretive-chinese-influence-network/11288210

    I think the key to unravelling the truth will be the $100,000 personal donation which Gladys Liu made to her own campaign.

    For a person of average means, this is a massive gamble on a very uncertain outcome. I doubt the funds came directly from dodgy sources — had that been the case I think this would have come to light by now — but what was Ms Liu’s thinking when she donated such a sum to her campaign? If you’re known as “Miss Moneybags” you’re probably not going to be thinking you’ll be slowly paying back the draw down on your mortgage over the next 10 years.

  204. 8th Dan

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all you’d know that in those days – and probably still – those on each side of the river knew as much about the other as they did about England, probably less (“town” and “the Valley” being exceptions for those on the south side).

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all you’d know that what you just posted is rubbish.

  205. There has been interesting speculation that those irregular dust storms are vital for the fertility of the coastal regions in that they transport and drop essential trace elements from the interior.

    Dust storms clog up the runners on my sunroof.
    We need another tax and government department to stop this happening.

  206. One good thing about dust storms is that they completely fsck up solar panels.

  207. Confused Old Misfit

    Dust storms clog up the runners on my sunroof.
    We need another tax and government department to stop this happening.

    Failing that you’ll need a subsidy to offset the cost of cleaning your solar panels!

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here’s one for Marcus Classis/Mk50 who I know is interested in the Battle of Coronel and what followed.

    Interesting link, thank you, BoN. SMS Scharnhorst was one of the dismal band of ships “sunk with all hands” – 862 officers and men. It’s one of the examples quoted, when the armchair commandos claim “Ships as large as H.M.A.S. Sydney do not vanish with no survivors.”

  209. lotocoti

    Unless I’m misremembering, To Kill A Mocking Bird was on the QLD Junior Certificate reading list, circa 1977. They might’ve done things differently, down the Big Smoke, but around these parts they just found a tacher who knew their way ’round a Bell & Howell and played the flick in the school hall.

  210. Cardimona

    Got a letter in the Darwin paper today, Cats…

    No war with weather
    PLEASE, Rosemary Jacob (NTN, 5/12); calm down! You’re upsetting the kiddies and it’s not nice or necessary.
    Let’s consider your points.
    “1. Emissions are continuing to rise.” Yes, yes they are. And the irrefutable fact that temperatures have plateaued over the last 20 years while emissions have spiked completely debunks the claimed link between CO2 and temperature. If UN-IPCC science were correct we’d be much hotter than we actually are.
    “2. Global temperatures have already risen 0.8C above the established baseline and increasing emissions mean we will soon have reached 1C.” There have been several warm periods during this interglacial period, each peaking a little cooler than the one before. Ours has been coolest so far. The next ice-age is on its way.
    “3. Although some countries are moving rapidly to adopt renewable energy sources, others like Australia do not even have a viable plan.” This is not remotely true. Australia has put in more (pointless) emissions reduction efforts at more cost per capita than any other country.
    Renewables leader Germany is discovering renewables don’t work.
    The reality is renewables cannot and will not replace hydrocarbon fuels.
    The oceans are not rising above the normal rate of the last few hundred years.
    Australian waste is well-managed and we do not have any pollution problems (because we have an army of inspectors).
    We are not at war with the weather, Rosemary; it is pure propaganda driven by a lust for money and power. Relax. Let it go. And be nice to the kiddies.

    And one in the Cairns paper…

    Global-warming stupor
    HUMANS have a legacy superstition from our universally-shared ice-age huntergatherer days; fear of rival humans eating all the food and using all the resources.
    Twenty-thousand years ago when the world was very cold, CO2 very low, and food very scarce there was a valid reason to fear human food-rivals.
    But in this modern warm period, with CO2 out-gassed by the oceans improving food availability on an ongoing basis, there is not. These days our ancient superstition isn’t called “fear of rivals”, instead it’s “fear for the planet from human overpopulation”, otherwise known as “malthusianism”.
    Locally, we see two examples of it in Wednesday’s Cairns Post (04/12): Byron in the texts and Alan Sparks in the letters.
    When the solar cycle declines enough for the next ice age to start the oceans will absorb CO2 (Henry’s law), food will become scarce and human populations will decline. The fittest survivors then will be those countries with plenty of coal and nuclear power stations. That won’t be us unless we snap out of our globalwarming stupor.

  211. 8th Dan

    Dust storms clog up the runners on my sunroof.
    We need another tax and government department to stop this happening.

    Failing that you’ll need a subsidy to offset the cost of cleaning your solar panels!

    Councils in NSW subsidized ratepayers to hose that 2009 red dust off their homes at the time. So, it could be reasonably speculated that any “trace elements” ended up in the Pacific Ocean or the Tasman Sea.

  212. stackja

    Snoopy
    #3253498, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:01 am
    Why is there a Commonwealth Ag department at all?

    Commonwealth Ag department supposedly coordinates states’ Ag efforts. In the past I believe the Country Party did a reasonable job. Now it just gives someone a title as Ag minister.

  213. Knuckle Dragger

    Word, Cardimona.

    Rosemary Jacobs gets a couple of screeches in the NT News a week on pretty much everything from climageddon to reffos to Adani to remember that bastard Menzies.

    A few months back she actually got a piece in asking the Gummint to remove the blackfellas from her (mostly) posh suburb of Fannie Bay. Not because they were pissed or belting each other or humbugging the locals or shitting in the street.

    Because they ‘reduced the ambience’ of the joint.

  214. Roger

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all you’d know that what you just posted is rubbish.

    Right on cue!

  215. Leigh Lowe

    A few months back she actually got a piece in asking the Gummint to remove the blackfellas from her (mostly) posh suburb of Fannie Bay. Not because they were pissed or belting each other or humbugging the locals or shitting in the street.

    Because they ‘reduced the ambience’ of the joint.

    Hey cuz.
    The white lady says she need a ambience.
    Quick.
    Call Triple-oh and get ’em send ambience.

  216. Confused Old Misfit

    Councils in NSW subsidized ratepayers to hose that 2009 red dust off their homes at the time.

    Jesus wept!

    any “trace elements” ended up in the Pacific Ocean or the Tasman Sea.

    Irrelevant when you are cashing in on a freeby subsidy.

  217. stackja

    Absolutely horrific!’: Passenger calls in from cruise ship stranded at sea

    2GB

    A cruise ship is stranded at sea off the coast of Australia after breaking down early this morning.

    The Vasco da Gama, travelling from London, has lost all power and has been drifting in the St Vincent Gulf near Adelaide for hours.

    About 900 passengers are stuck on-board without food or even working toilets.

  218. Snoopy

    If you had any knowledge of Brisbane at all you’d know that what you just posted is rubbish.

    Bullshit. It’s still pretty much the case except Southsiders are now also familiar with the airport.

  219. Arky

    Tuesday 3rd December was the International Day for People with Disabilities.

    ..
    Tards or cripples?

  220. Black Ball

    Good morning all.
    Billy Birmingham needs to release another 12th Man album. Would be rich pickings today.

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