Open Forum: November 30, 2019

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  1. Roger

    Bullshit. It’s still pretty much the case except Southsiders are now also familiar with the airport.

    When I was a kid the only time we ventured north east of Brunswick Street was to drop my aunt at the airport two or three times a year.

    As I recall even the junior sports comps were organised on a southside/northside basis.

  2. MatrixTransform

    has lost all power and has been drifting

    flat batteries?

  3. has lost all power and has been drifting

    The ALP?

  4. feelthebern

    Aussies not good ’nuff for you?

    I get it, you are kidding.
    But seriously, if i need staff that proficient in python.
    These chinese born kids look at it like most aussies look at veggie-maths in high school.

  5. Arky

    Councils in NSW subsidized ratepayers

    ..
    Huh?
    How does that work?
    Where did the council get the funds from?

  6. Mark A

    stackja
    #3253571, posted on December 6, 2019 at 10:36 am

    Absolutely horrific!’: Passenger calls in from cruise ship stranded at sea
    A cruise ship is stranded at sea off the coast of Australia after breaking down early this morning.

    The Vasco da Gama, travelling from London, has lost all power and has been drifting in the St Vincent Gulf near Adelaide for hours.

    About 900 passengers are stuck on-board without food or even working toilets.

    How this can happen I do not understand, even on a lowly 30M tuna boat we had a separate power generator, independent from the main propulsion engine.

    Unless they used the same type of fuel for all engines and ran out?
    Heads should roll for this.

  7. Snoopy

    Commonwealth Ag department supposedly coordinates states’ Ag efforts.

    So if formal coordination is required at all it could be replaced by a secretariat rotating around the states.

  8. Mater

    Tards or cripples?

    I’ve got nothing to say but I thought I should respond to your post, lest you get the shits and flounce off again!

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just been browsing backthread to half-way catch up. Came across Ellie’s link to this Downfall Spoof on Climate Change. Thought it worth reposting here just to cheer us all up a bit. We are not alone.

  10. The 2019 award for “Sensitivity, delicacy and tact”

    The winner is (wait for it)

     
    wait
     
     
     
     
     
    ARKY!

  11. Arky

    Don’t throw me your pity comments man.
    I have standards.
    Cash only.

  12. 1735099

    As I recall even the junior sports comps were organised on a southside/northside basis.

    The US military created a similar arrangement during World War Two, segregating African-Americans, restricting them to the south side of the Brisbane River.
    American military police frequently assaulted or killed black troops simply for crossing the River.
    This annoyed the locals immensely, whose culture towards race and military police was notably different.
    These issues were a contributing factor in the Battle of Brisbane, in November 1942.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pieter, once MV, sorry to see back thread that you have been unwell and now being nursed by a kindly soul back to a better condition. Hang in there for Boofhead’s sake. Attapuss was locked in the shed for the duration of yesterday’s tea party, and very put out he was too, but he delighted in joining us for the evening on the terrace as audience to our singing. We love him dearly even though he is not a cat many people warm to, in fact no-one likes him but us. He took the sofa with three cushions to himself, we each had a wicker armchair, and he was absolutely luxuriating in our company, full of purrs and sleepy eyes, making only the occasional sudden-alert dash to prove his insectivore origins on a stray moth or two. I noted to Hairy that we too once way back on the evolutionary tree were insectivores. The devolutionists are trying to return us back to that, was his response.

    Have a nice steak soon, Pieter MV, as Tel says singing the praise of B12, it will put you back in form.

    We love him dearly even though he is not a cat many people warm to.

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ah, our love for you speaks twice, Attapuss. Pressed the wrong button again, I did.

    Luckily, it was not the words of Eskimo Nell, which Hairy was reminiscing about last nite. 🙂

  15. Shy Ted

    Snoopy #3253488, posted on December 6, 2019 at 8:55 am
    2GB listener Ian tells ‘Cruise & Maritime Voyages’ Vasco da Gama going in circles off South Australia.
    Stackja #3253494, posted on December 6, 2019 at 8:59 am
    2GB listener suggests Vasco da Gama has run out of fuel.

    I’m on this on Monday. Read the reviews and they were so appalling I knew I just had to go. Multiple deaths, endemic food poisoning, boat listing 45deg in rough seas. Such tales are what great cruises are made of, besides I need to lose a few lbs. Off to Tassie via Melbourne it’s gonna be the week from hell.

  16. Top Ender

    Nice high-tech experiment:

    Drill-seekers take giant leap: is there life on Mars?

    Scientists have begun work on the most complex treasure hunt ever conceived — a $10.5bn attempt to bring the first samples of Martian soil to Earth.

    Testing has begun on a rover, a prototype of which was unveiled on Thursday (AEDT), that will collect rock and dust from the planet’s surface and return them for analysis. In a cavernous facility in Stevenage, southeast England, researchers working for Airbus have recreated the Martian landscape and are testing an autonomous system that should allow the rover to identify and collect rock fragments that might hold signs of past life.

    Adam Camilletti, lead engineer on the Airbus Mars sample fetch rover project, which will take at least a decade, said: “The overall mission architecture is the most demanding I’ve ever seen.”

    The project is due to start next year when Nasa sends its Mars 2020 rover to land on the 45kmwide Jezero crater, just north of the Martian equator. This is thought to be the site of an ancient river delta. Scientists believe that more than three billion years ago, the planet’s climate was wetter, warmer and potentially amenable to life. The crater, which appears to have once contained a large lake fed by rivers, could contain remnants of microbes.

    The rover will drill cores of mud and stone, which will be sealed in 36 tubes about the size of a large cigar. In 2028, another rover will come to pick them up.

    The tubes will be packed into a sphere the size of a basketball and loaded in a rocket that will lift the samples into orbit around Mars. Another spacecraft will swallow up the container and bring it to Earth. All being well, researchers on Earth should be in a position to examine the samples by 2031, using laboratories that could never be sent to Mars.

    THE TIMES

  17. MatrixTransform

    Fintech Bubble

    Though when it comes to Silicon Valley unicorns heading to the public markets this year, it has been an absolute disaster as the tide has gone out for companies who don’t make money ahead of the next recession.

    I would argue that this is also true in a local sense.

    There’s some sad haunted faces among our competitors that were until recently were expanding and buying up low margin projects.

    Hungrier and hungrier … chomp, chomp, chomp.

    Personally, I decided to go the exact opposite direction and sand bag the levy

    I call it Last Man Standing Insurance.

    I’ll know its time when the job requests begin flowing in via LinkedIn

  18. Snoopy

    Military historian Mad Bob:

    American military police frequently assaulted or killed black troops simply for crossing the River.

    Raymond Evans and Jacqui Done 2004/10

    black troops assaulted or killed by American MPs simply for crossing the Brisbane River

    Note Evans and Done do not provide any source for their assertion. However they do approvingly quote an infamous homosexual peederfile’s hateful observations of Brisbane girls.

  19. Woolfe:

    Paraburdoo, first rain since February 7th! Awesome thunder storm!

    Interesting place. Do the white cockatoos still hang around?
    And is the hospital still a going concern? The administrators in the Health District were dead set keen on closing the place down, but wanted the mine to keep paying into the running of it.

  20. Farmer Gez

    At Bolta, an article that the US has ordered new subs at half the price of the diesel duds we won’t get to see from the cemetery.
    A good yardarm should be erected for the Turnbalites to show our appreciation for breaking the bank and leaving the country defenceless. Those SA votes must be diamonds.

  21. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Paraburdoo, first rain since February 7th! Awesome thunder storm!

    Not particularly unusual, Woolfe.
    Do the dingoes still use the railway line as a track?

  22. Farmer Gez:

    It took a while for my idea to take root but finally someone’s got the plan.
    If you love bloody kangaroos so much, you can pay for their agistment on my land.
    If you love trees so much, you can pay me for the income I forgo to make you feel better.
    Attractive nubile types can pay in kind.

    Is that what it’s really all about?
    Making the State pay for farmers loss of income due to their regulatory mayhem?
    (It’s just so very weird – the world makes less sense to me every week.*)
    *Except the last bit. That I get. I may be getting old, but I’m not senile.

  23. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Those SA votes must be diamonds.

    Turdbull’s selection had little to do with SA votes, and everything to do with punishing Australia for supporting his outing in 2009. He was on a one man vendetta campaign from that day forward.

  24. Diogenes

    The Vasco da Gama, travelling from London, has lost all power and has been drifting in the St Vincent Gulf near Adelaide for hours.

    Formerly known as the Pacific Eden, and before that the Statendam.

    She is an old ship (93) and her just sold sister ship the Pacific Aria (built as the Ryndam) are supposedly near identical. I just did a cruise on the Aria to PNG, and the ex Holland-America photos in the corridor were a feature. She was looking tired, and from time to time shit happened, literally! Our friends who were traveling with us had their toilet block a few times (always fixed quickly), and at the other end of our deck, 6 cabins were evacuated due to toilet issues.

    There were some really odd design decisions. On the other ships I have traveled, the assembly points are indoors in bars & the theatres. On the VdM and Aria, our ‘safe’ space was outside on the promenade deck exposed to elements – the last place I would want to wait for a lifeboat if it were a dark and stormy night.

  25. jo

    Arky, remember your high standards, notes only loose change hurts when thrwn.

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    a chicom in parliament
    The curious case of Gladys Liu: Messy money matters, the ‘spy target’ and shadowy China groups
    Questions have been raised about a Liberal MP’s links to the Chinese Community Party and a man who claimed he was asked to infiltrate parliament.

  27. Old School Conservative

    our ‘safe’ space was outside on the promenade deck exposed to elements – the last place I would want to wait for a lifeboat if it were a dark and stormy night.

    Wouldn’t you want to be close to the lifeboat?
    Hang on and be first on board when it launches.

  28. Colonel Crispin Berka

    You all deserve to know this
    http://www.presidentialpetmuseum.com/benjamin-harrisons-mr-reciprocity-mr-protection/

    Harrison gifted the two opossums to his grandchildren, but he is clearly the one who gave the marsupials their weighty names as at the time, the platform of the Republican party was: “Protection and reciprocity are twin measures of Republican policy and go hand-in-hand.”

    If Trump ever has two pets in the White House, what would he call them?

  29. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    If Trump ever has two pets in the White House, what would he call them?

    Former Wife and Future Wife?

  30. 8th Dan

    Councils in NSW subsidized ratepayers

    ..
    Huh?
    How does that work?
    Where did the council get the funds from?

    Oops … my bad. I had in mind that ratepayers were offered $75 off their Water Rates to hose the red dust from their properties. Your query made me less sure of that so I looked it up:

    New South Wales and Queensland government lifted water restrictions, imposed because of the drought, so residents could clean their homes and vehicles.

  31. woolfe

    Winston,
    Yep white (well red) cockatoos love the place, they parade around with the Ravens looking for treats. Its a Rio town and a green oasis in the Pilbara dirt.

    Hospital still going, also I assume subsidised by Rio.

  32. Diogenes

    Hang on and be first on board when it launches.

    To what? Steel plate does not yield nicely under finger pressure.

    This time last year we were on the Pac Explorer, had a room right at the front of deck 6(2nd window actually). We were actually underwater in the 5-7m seas for the better part of the first sea day coming back out of Milford Sound.

    On the VdG and PacAria deck 6 is the promenade deck ….

  33. woolfe

    Dingoes love the place as well Pete, they get chased out the town but hang around the mine crib huts.

    One jumped in the back of a ute and stole someones bag with their laptop in it. I found it in a creek a couple of days latter, obviously wanted to send a dmail.

  34. feelthebern

    Yeah, this is a problem.

    Uber Safety Report Details Sexual Assaults in U.S. Over Two Years

    Uber Technologies said it received 5,981 reports of sexual assault involving U.S. passengers or drivers during 2017 and 2018, underscoring the risk that has been a chief criticism of ride-hailing companies around the world.

  35. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Thanks Woolfe.
    There used to be a Yank resident doctor at the hospital, surname Aldrin.
    Like all Yanks with the surname Aldrin, he insisted on being called “Buzz”.
    But that was 14 years ago, so I guess he’s long gone now.

    Do the cockies still open the bins and scatter all your rubbish up and down the street on bin day?

  36. Old School Conservative

    Diogenes, hang on to the railing.
    I’ve seen it done.
    Rose and Jack did it effortlessly.

  37. Frank Walker:

    Tax cuts and deregulation have done wonders for the American economy. The same cannot be said for Trump’s tariffs, which have recently been extended to Brazil and Argentina. In this excellent piece for National Review, Kevin D. Williamson dismantles the logic of Trump’s trade policy and outlines how it is harming the economy.

    At some stage tariffs must become injurious to the consumer.
    But what happens really?
    If country A raises tariffs on goods that country B is exporting to A, and B starts making its own, (some sort of autarky program like Nazi Germanys ersatz program.) then there should be a point at which the increase in productive capability/taxes paid, increases the GDP of A. Then the whole tariff cost thing is bourne by consumers of the initial good.
    Is there some way of plotting this, sort of like a tariff Laffer Curve?
    (Apologies about the disjointedness of the question, but I am having difficulty with the concept.)

  38. 8th Dan

    ‘Absolutely horrific!’: Passenger calls in from cruise ship stranded at sea

    Hyperbowl?

    “Cruise & Maritime Voyages (CMV) cruise ship MV Vasco da Gama went into a controlled precautionary blackout early this morning at approx 0545hrs whilst sailing in the vicinity of the Port of Adelaide. Local authorities were notified of the incident as a precaution by the ship’s Captain.

    An alarm light on the engine control room’s panel led the vessel’s officers to initiate a controlled blackout as a precaution against damage to systems onboard and in order to investigate the alarm.

    All precautionary post-incidents checks were completed with no causes for concern identified. Power was fully restored later in the morning and the vessel resumed sailing towards the port of Adelaide per its scheduled itinerary.

  39. Mater

    These issues were a contributing factor in the Battle of Brisbane, in November 1942.

    Race issue might have had a small amount to do with it, but I’d suggest it had more to do with the recent arrival of the 2nd AIF from the Middle East and having “battle hardened Australian volunteers confronting well dressed American conscripts who had not seen combat but who were acting as the nation’s saviours”.

    My Grandmother recounted witnessing the melee that occurred on Flinders St in Melbourne in February 1943 reportedly involving 3,500 people. War time censorship means that the newspaper reports are scant and never really indicate that it was a US versus Australia incident. She always maintained that it was ignited by a comment along the lines of, “Don’t worry, we looked after your women while you were away” or some such shit talking.

    These types of events occurred in most capital cities from late 1942 onwards and would’ve been expected regardless of racial issues.

  40. mh

    8th Dan
    #3253665, posted on December 6, 2019 at 12:50 pm
    ‘Absolutely horrific!’: Passenger calls in from cruise ship stranded at sea

    Thanks Boomer Ian.

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Don’t worry, we looked after your women while you were away”

    “Over – paid, oversexed and over here.”

    “Underpaid, undersexed and under MacArthur.” was an exchange that led to more then one brawl.

  42. “Over – paid, oversexed and over here.”

    With their naval personnel dying in their tens of thousands fighting on our behalf in our waters.
    I would have been happy to supply them with women in exchange.

  43. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    “Don’t worry, we looked after your women while you were away”

    Those noted documentaries “The Pacific” and “The Sillivans” misrepresented and skirted around the incident recounted above by Mater. Very poor form.

  44. Zatara

    The US military created a similar arrangement during World War Two, segregating African-Americans, restricting them to the south side of the Brisbane River.
    American military police frequently assaulted or killed black troops simply for crossing the River.

    Total horseshit.

  45. Knackle Drugger:

    Something about replacing the bacteria in his gut. I don’t know how someone gets around to thinking about this, but whoever did certainly wasn’t driving the spack bus for a living.

    There was a theory doing the rounds that the appendix was a reboot mechanism for normal gut flora. Whenever one was removed, it always had the normal microbes in it.
    After a dose of the chronic shits, it was supposed to recolonise the gut.

  46. mh

    Euroweenies Gone Wild!

    Donald Tusk makes what appears to be ‘gun’ gesture at Trump’s back

    https://nypost.com/2019/12/05/polish-politician-makes-what-appears-to-be-gun-gesture-at-trumps-back/

  47. Diogenes

    Diogenes, hang on to the railing.
    I’ve seen it done.
    Rose and Jack did it effortlessly.

    But the seas were calm (which is one reason they didn’t see the hidden UBoat charted by Lord Ismay to prevent the creation of the Federal Reserve that really sank the OlympicTitanic 🙂 )
    We were having enough trouble hanging on to the railing in the stairs when the part of the ship we were in was moving in all 3 dimensions, let alone with the sea plucking at our bodies

  48. Mother Lode

    Total horseshit.

    Comes straight from the horse’s arse.

  49. Rex Mango

    Craziest bit of The Pacific tv series was in the second episode, when the protagonist on R&R from Guadalcanal, hooks up with a Greek Australian girlfriend who is living in a 1940’s Melbourne suburb filled with people drinking espresso and reading Greek language newspapers in some multicultural wonderland. If you read the book it is based on, Helmet for My Pillow, his girlfriend had a name like Sheila and was of Irish descent.

  50. Zatara

    THE BATTLE OF BRISBANE – 26 & 27 NOVEMBER 1942

    From Ozatwar.com. Summary based on research of Barry Ralph in his book ‘They Passed This Way’, which I highly recommend for historians of that era.

  51. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    The US military created a similar arrangement during World War Two, segregating African-Americans, restricting them to the south side of the Brisbane River.

    As I understood it, the bulk of African American troops, some 5,000 of them, were stationed at Cloncurry, near Mt Isa, in QLD. This satisfied both Australian policy at the time – the “White Australia Policy”, and the official American army practice – “Equal But Different”.

    The Americans were allowed to fraternise with the local indigenees, but hanky panky with a white woman was unofficially a shooting offence.

  52. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    his girlfriend had a name like Sheila and was of Irish descent

    Hang on, isn’t that the name of the bit o’ side crumpet in the Ozzie bestseller “My brother Bob”?

  53. Mother Lode

    Donald Tusk makes what appears to be ‘gun’ gesture at Trump’s back

    Doesn’t really look that much like a gun gesture – people usually use their thumb to represent the hammer.

    Could be an semi-automatic hand, I suppose.

    But it could also just be him tapping Trump on the back to get his attention too.

    In the US kids have been sent home for biting out a piece of a hotpocket so the uneaten portion looks like a gun.

  54. Rex Mango

    Helmet for My Pillow is an excellent read and interestingly in one section he describes hearing the sound of bomb exploding hundreds of kilometres away in the jungle.

  55. John Constantine

    How are the godless commo vegynsys activists occupying the canberra offices of the national farmers federation going to get the peasants to go along with cutting agriculture carbon by half to comply with our unswerving paris signed conventions?.

    Switch over to being enviromental services providers, under direct centrally planned State control.

    Their nff greta-sniffers will be twittering about their cleverness in turning the rural men into lackies and cannon fodder, hoping to get invitations to the dinner parties of the Golden Ton.

  56. feelthebern

    If you read the book it is based on, Helmet for My Pillow, his girlfriend had a name like Sheila and was of Irish descent.

    Hang on.
    Are you saying Hollywood re-wrote history?

  57. areff

    Reforming the public service, in the public service’s own words. Paul Collits has more that here. The video below, shot earlier this year, appears to be the zygote stage of the misbegotten baby now announced as full-blown policy by Morrison.

  58. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Are you saying Hollyweird re-wrote history?

    The technical term is “re-imagined”.

  59. Tom:

    In Australia, the property market is strong because it’s the only way people can make money when the economy is fucked (the real economy — outside of the government spending ponzi — has been in recession for most of the past decade, choked to death by red and green tape).

    Perzakkerly.

  60. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    No, areff. Just no.

  61. 1735099

    Liberty Quote –

    “It is probably a fair generalisation to say that in the United States, the display of batons and firearms in the hands of police is an effective way of quelling a riot, whereas in Australia it is an effective way of starting one.”

    (Dudley McCarthy)

  62. Rex Mango

    FTB, not Hollywood, but Melbourne who helped fund the production and some govt schlock must’ve insisted that Melbourne be presented as multicultural back way before the Greeks arrived.

  63. Knuckle Dragger

    The constabulary must immediately be armed with shaving mirrors.

  64. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the property market is strong because it’s the only way people can make money when the economy is fucked

    Tom that is not correct. I made a handy packet on the stock market just a couple of years ago. Mind you that was after buying in at an historic low around Dec ’15/Jan ’16.

    Remember, if all else fails there’s always prostitution. Or fantasy football if you’re utterly desperate (and on the verge of running out of doughnuts).

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    How are the godless commo vegynsys activists occupying the canberra offices of the national farmers federation going to get the peasants to go along with cutting agriculture carbon by half to comply with our unswerving paris signed conventions?.

    easy, put them on organ donor lists

  66. areff

    Instapundit has a link to an “emergency response” to a “small nuclear reactor” in someone’s garage.

    Details are sketchy but you’d have to fear that the operator’s lifespan might have been somewhat curtailed, as with the last common or garden-variety amateur nuclear physicist.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/this-fall-the-radioactive-boy-scout-died-at-age-39/

    Links in the above to the original Harper’s story on the “radioactive boy scout”. Amazing stuff.

  67. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    At some stage tariffs must become injurious to the consumer.

    the aim of these tariffs is to push the US supply chain out of china

  68. Mater

    My Grandmother recounted witnessing the melee that occurred on Flinders St in Melbourne in February 1943 reportedly involving 3,500 people

    For anyone interested, this is basically the only report on the “brawl” that I can find.
    It’s an interesting study on wartime censorship.

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48901599

    “A crowd of more than 3,500 greatly hampered the police”

    Hahahaaa

  69. MatrixTransform

    Total horseshit.

    Fact check: False

    …plenty of bullshit in there too

  70. 1735099

    Stark evidence of the obscenity of executive remuneration.

  71. Poidre:

    There used to be a Yank resident doctor at the hospital, surname Aldrin.
    Like all Yanks with the surname Aldrin, he insisted on being called “Buzz”.
    But that was 14 years ago, so I guess he’s long gone now.

    Remember him well, but wasn’t he a kiwi? He left around the same time I did. But wasn’t he named after Buzz Lightyear? His missus was a nurse there as well, and I remember one of his daughters had a constant run in with mum over “Fat Bastard” speech.
    quite a few funny stories about that place…

  72. MatrixTransform

    [youtube

    I am a teacher.
    I know everything
    and am always right

  73. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    “radioactive boy scout”

    Intrepid sidekick of the Nuclear Milkman.

  74. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Winston,

    A couple of months ago now, late one night, you told me to “fvck off with my gratuitous comments”.
    As I have explained before, I always strive to comply with other Cats personal requests of me. Consequently I no longer reply to your posts, in accordance with your previously stated demand.

    This is particularly grievous to me, as you were always one of my favourite commenters, and I am still especially grateful for advice you gave me me some years ago regarding a drug I was taking.

    Nonetheless, when I give an undertaking here, it is cast in concrete. So please save us both the bother and stop addressing comments to me.

  75. Lysander

    My Grandmother recounted witnessing the melee that occurred on Flinders St in Melbourne in February 1943 reportedly involving 3,500 people

    Under the Tumultuous Crowds Act in Victoria (I think it was written in the 1890’s), any riotous crowds “need to be approached by a magistrate who may say:”

    Our Sovereign Lady the Queen doth strictly charge and command all manner of persons here assembled immediately to disperse themselves and peaceably depart to their own homes. God save the Queen.”

  76. So we have good shit and bad shit.
    Who woulda guessed?

  77. Narwhal Tusk

    The ever widening Credibility Giap from Numbers.

  78. Tailgunner

    You might have been on the money,Zippy.
    Although many a slip, betwixt cup &lip.
    Team Wait&See lives for awhile yet!
    Don’t be silly,Nancy!

  79. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Trump impeachment to go ahead, says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

    hope nobody put money on Trump not getting impeached

  80. Black Ball

    Gunner, are you imbibing fine beers?

  81. Eyrie

    “Turdbull’s selection had little to do with SA votes, and everything to do with punishing Australia for supporting his outing in 2009. He was on a one man vendetta campaign from that day forward.”

    The Australian people were simply not worthy of his magnificence, hence needed to be punished.

  82. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What’s Trump going to be impeached for this time?
    Not washing his hands after taking a leak?
    I’ve lost track.

  83. Tailgunner

    No BB, not today! I’m just on a packed tram heading home,then have to drive the wagon so no booze til later.

  84. Tailgunner

    Shut up Zippy, smart ass!
    😃

  85. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Don’t be silly,Nancy!

    asking wiminsis to not be silly, come on man!

  86. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Trump impeachment to go ahead, says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

    hope nobody put money on Trump not getting impeached

    If you’d followed my betting advice you’d be on a winner by now.

  87. Old School Conservative

    Best part of areff’s Public Service video was at 3.20 – they all leapt up from their chairs simultaneously. Must have been noon on a Friday.

    Whoever keeps joking about overweight female public servants is actually right on the money.

  88. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    From farms and coal mines to airports and water supplies: How China is gobbling up millions of acres of land, vital infrastructure and companies – as part of its ‘disturbing’ plan to exert greater influence and control over Australia

    China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate as it seeks to project power and influence beyond its shores.

    The communist nation of 1.4billion people owns an airport in Western Australia, nine million hectares of Australian land, several Aussie coalmines and wind farms and even the Port of Darwin, a key strategic asset.

    China is also the largest foreign owner of Australian water and has projected soft power Down Under by planting Communist Party-approved Mandarin teachers in schools and universities.

  89. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Areff:

    the zygote stage of the misbegotten baby now announced as full-blown policy

    Oh, so despite it being a bad idea that nobody should have proceeded with, your prior religious commitments will prevent you from killing this policy even at such an early stage? After all, policy begins at the moment of conception.

    🙂 😀 😀

  90. Nob

    Zippy, isn’t there some legal requirement in the USA for that because of some young lass left in a car boot and she died because her phone died before they could locate her?

  91. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Zippy, isn’t there some legal requirement in the USA for that because of some young lass left in a car boot and she died because her phone died before they could locate her?

    the towers track you, that doesn’t mean apple needs to as well if you ask it not to

  92. PoliticoNT

    On the APS ‘reform’ hoo-hah this week. At a more personal and digestible level in terms of what is really broken – I have had in the past week had my 13 year professional and professional-personal relationship with a close colleague thrown under a bus by…..my close colleague. We work under a tsunami of HR values bollocks but when it gets down to it counts for nothing. Our workplace ‘values’ instead have created a system where it is almost guaranteed to have something misinterpreted, weaponised and then fired back at us.

    But, rather than whine, it is better to laugh. So;

    I have realised that,
    The APS is evil.
    And I’d rather spend time
    With my friend Bill –
    The weevil.

  93. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I’m sorry to break to this to you people, but the revolution will not be a televisual feast

  94. cohenite

    Good short BoM video on the SAM, IOD, MJO and ENSO as the factors which determine climate in Australia; it’s a pity the BoM is focused on CO2 because it can do some good work:

  95. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I’m sorry to break to this to you people, but the revolution will not be a televisual feast

    And I hate to break it to you, Spurgeon, but the revolution is over.
    We lost.

    All that’s left now is the opportunity for some covert spoiling operations.

  96. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    CCP document #9 refered to in previous videos. total chicom rejection of all western ideals.

    Document 9: A ChinaFile Translation
    How Much Is a Hardline Party Directive Shaping China’s Current Political Climate?
    …reports began to appear that the Party leadership was being urged to guard against seven political “perils,” including constitutionalism, civil society, “nihilistic” views of history, “universal values,” and the promotion of “the West’s view of media.” It also called on Party members to strengthen their resistance to “infiltration” by outside ideas, renew their commitment to work “in the ideological sphere,” and to handle with renewed vigilance all ideas, institutions, and people deemed threatening to unilateral Party rule. These warnings were enumerated in a communiqué circulated within the Party by its General Office in April, and, because they constituted the ninth such paper issued this year, have come to be known as “Document 9.”

    What suggests the significance of Document 9 is the fact that a worrisomely harsh crackdown against human rights lawyers, media outlets, academics, and other such independent thinkers has followed.

  97. Can we use wind turbines as giant trebuchets* and hurl our pollies into the yonder?
    Dipped in pitch for extra effect at night.

    *There is no patent for using wind turbines as giant trebuchets.

  98. China’s Current Political Climate?

    $1 says they will do a Pearl Harbour. 5 years tops.

  99. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    document #9 translation
    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Communiqué on the Current State of the Ideological Sphere
    A Notice from the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China’s General Office
    Provinces, autonomous regions, municipalities directly under the Party committee, Central ministries and state organs, Party ministries, People’s Liberation Army headquarters, major Party committees, and Party leadership groups of civilian organizations: This notice “A Communiqué on the Current State of the Ideological Sphere” has been approved by the central leadership, and is herewith distributed to you. Please thoroughly implement its suggestions.

    April 22, 2013
    (This document has been sent to local divisional levels)

    Introduction
    Since the Party’s Eighteenth National Congress, under General Secretary Xi Jinping’s strong central leadership, the nation triumphantly convened the National People’s Congress and the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, the Party’s and nation’s various undertakings have made a good start, and the general mood of the Party and Government has been constantly improving. Cohesion among our nation’s people has become stronger and our confidence in our path, our theory, and our system has become more resolute. Mainstream ideology is becoming healthier and more vigorous. The spirit of the Party’s Eighteenth National Congress and General Secretary Xi Jinping’s series of important speeches have unified the thought of the entire Party, the entire country, and the entire people enormously. The ideological foundation of our united struggle is unceasingly solidifying.

    The new session of the central leadership group has: put forth a series of new principles for conduct in political administration, furnished an interpretation of the Chinese dream of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation, improved our work-style, maintained close ties with the masses, rigorously enforced diligence and thrift, opposed extravagance and waste, increased vigor in the fight against corruption, and won the widespread endorsement of cadres and the masses. We persist in upholding scientific development as the main theme, accelerating economic transformation as the main thread, and increasing the quality and efficiency of the economy as the core. The outlook for our nation’s economic development continues to be favorable, and the people’s faith in China’s economic prospects has risen. In an effort to improve the people’s livelihood, we are putting forth new measures to benefit the people so they may look forward to a better future: disseminating thought on the cultural front as the most important political task; studying, implementing, and advancing the spirit of the Eighteenth Party Congress; rapidly arousing mass fervor, proclaiming that socialism with Chinese characteristics and the Chinese dream are the main theme of our age; expanding and strengthening positive propaganda; strengthening guidance on deep-seated problems; strengthening the management of ideological fronts; promoting unification of thought; concentrating our strength and implementing the development of a positive atmosphere and providing spiritual strength to the party and nation.

    Noteworthy Problems Related to the Current State of the Ideological Sphere
    While fully approving of the ideological mainstream, we must also clearly see the ideological situation as a complicated, intense struggle. Currently, the following false ideological trends, positions, and activities all deserve note:

    1. Promoting Western Constitutional Democracy: An attempt to undermine the current leadership and the socialism with Chinese characteristics system of governance.

    Western Constitutional Democracy has distinct political properties and aims. Among these are the separation of powers, the multi-party system, general elections, independent judiciaries, nationalized armies, and other characteristics. These are the capitalist class’ concepts of a nation, political model, and system design. The concept of constitutional democracy originated a long time ago, and recently the idea has been hyped ever more frequently.

    This is mainly expressed the following ways: In commemorating the thirtieth anniversary of the enactment of the [Chinese] Constitution, [some people] hold up the banners of “defending the constitution” and “rule of law.” They attack the Party’s leaders for placing themselves above the constitution, saying China “has a constitution but no constitutional government.” Some people still use the phrase “constitutional dream” to distort the Chinese dream of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation, saying things like “constitutional democracy is the only way out” and “China should catch up with the rest of the world’s trend toward constitutional governance.” The point of publicly proclaiming Western constitutional democracy’s key points is to oppose the party’s leadership and implementation of its constitution and laws. Their goal is to use Western constitutional democracy to undermine the Party’s leadership, abolish the People’s Democracy, negate our country’s constitution as well as our established system and principles, and bring about a change of allegiance by bringing Western political systems to China.

    2. Promoting “universal values” in an attempt to weaken the theoretical foundations of the Party’s leadership.

    The goal of espousing “universal values” is to claim that the West’s value system defies time and space, transcends nation and class, and applies to all humanity.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways: [The people who espouse universal values] believe Western freedom, democracy, and human rights are universal and eternal. This is evident in their distortion of the Party’s own promotion of democracy, freedom, equality, justice, rule of law, and other such values; their claim that the CCP’s acceptance of universal values is a victory for universal values,” that “the West’s values are the prevailing norm for all human civilization,” that “only when China accepts Western values will it have a future,” and that “Reform and Opening is just a process of gradually accepting universal rights.”

    Given Western nations’ long-term dominance in the realms of economics, military affairs, science, and technology, these arguments can be confusing and deceptive. The goal [of such slogans] is to obscure the essential differences between the West’s value system and the value system we advocate, ultimately using the West’s value systems to supplant the core values of Socialism.

    3. Promoting civil society in an attempt to dismantle the ruling party’s social foundation.

    Civil society is a socio-political theory that originated in the West. It holds that in the social sphere, individual rights are paramount and ought to be immune to obstruction by the state. For the past few years, the idea of civil society has been adopted by Western anti-China forces and used as a political tool. Additionally, some people with ulterior motives within China have begun to promote these ideas.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways:

    Promoting civil society and Western-style theories of governance, they claim that building a civil society in China is a precondition for the protection of individual rights and forms the basis for the realization of constitutional democracy. Viewing civil society as a magic bullet for advancing social management at the local level, they have launched all kinds of so-called citizen’s movements.

    Advocates of civil society want to squeeze the Party out of leadership of the masses at the local level, even setting the Party against the masses, to the point that their advocacy is becoming a serious form of political opposition.

    4. Promoting Neoliberalism, attempting to change China’s Basic Economic System.

    Neoliberalism advocates unrestrained economic liberalization, complete privatization, and total marketization and it opposes any kind of interference or regulation by the state. Western countries, led by the United States, carry out their Neoliberal agendas under the guise of “globalization,” visiting catastrophic consequences upon Latin America, the Soviet Union, and Eastern Europe, and have also dragged themselves into the international financial crisis from they have yet to recover.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways:

    [Neoliberalism’s advocates] actively promote the “market omnipotence theory.” They claim our country’s macroeconomic control is strangling the market’s efficiency and vitality and they oppose public ownership, arguing that China’s state-owned enterprises are “national monopolies,” inefficient, and disruptive of the market economy, and should undergo “comprehensive privatization.” These arguments aim to change our country’s basic economic infrastructure and weaken the government’s control of the national economy.

    5. Promoting the West’s idea of journalism, challenging China’s principle that the media and publishing system should be subject to Party discipline.

    Some people, under the pretext of espousing “freedom of the press,” promote the West’s idea of journalism and undermine our country’s principle that the media should be infused with the spirit of the Party.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways:

    Defining the media as “society’s public instrument” and as the “Fourth Estate;” attacking the Marxist view of news and promote the “free flow of information on the Internet;” slandering our country’s efforts to improve Internet management by calling them a crackdown on the Internet; claiming that the media is not governed by the rule of law but by the arbitrary will of the leadership; and calling for China to promulgate a Media Law based on Western principles. [Some people] also claim that China restricts freedom of the press and bang on about abolishing propaganda departments. The ultimate goal of advocating the West’s view of the media is to hawk the principle of abstract and absolute freedom of press, oppose the Party’s leadership in the media, and gouge an opening through which to infiltrate our ideology.

    6. Promoting historical nihilism, trying to undermine the history of the CCP and of New China.

    The goal of historical nihilism, in the guise of “reassessing history,” is to distort Party history and the history of New China.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways:

    Rejecting the revolution; claiming that the revolution led by the Chinese Communist Party resulted only in destruction; denying the historical inevitability in China’s choice of the Socialist road, calling it the wrong path, and the Party’s and new China’s history a “continuous series of mistakes”; rejecting the accepted conclusions on historical events and figures, disparaging our Revolutionary precursors, and vilifying the Party’s leaders. Recently, some people took advantage of Comrade Mao Zedong’s 120th birthday in order to deny the scientific and guiding value of Mao Zedong thought. Some people try to cleave apart the period that preceded Reform and Opening from the period that followed, or even to set these two periods in opposition to one another. By rejecting CCP history and the history of New China, historical nihilism seeks to fundamentally undermine the CCP’s historical purpose, which is tantamount to denying the legitimacy of the CCP’s long-term political dominance.

    7. Questioning Reform and Opening and the socialist nature of socialism with Chinese characteristics.

    For the past several years, the discussion of reform has been unceasing, with all kinds of voices joining one after another. Some views clearly deviate from socialism with Chinese characteristics.

    This is mainly expressed in the following ways:

    Some blame the contradictions and problems of development on Reform and Opening. They say “Reform and opening up has gone too far” and that “we have deviated from our Socialist orientation.” They question whether or not what China is doing now still truly is Socialism, or they just call it “Capitalist Socialism,” “State Capitalism,” or “New Bureaucratic Capitalism.” Others say “reform is still distant and hasn’t be realized” or that “reform of the political system lags behind and obstructs reform of the economy.” They bang on about how we should use Western standards to achieve so-called “thorough reform.” Essentially, they oppose the general and specific policies emanating from the road taken at the Third Plenum of the Eleventh Party Congress and they oppose socialism with Chinese characteristics.

    These mistaken views and ideas exist in great numbers in overseas media and reactionary publications. They penetrate China through the Internet and underground channels and they are disseminated on domestic Internet forums, blogs, and microblogs, They also appear in public lectures, seminars, university classrooms, class discussion forums, civilian study groups, and individual publications. If we allow any of these ideas to spread, they will disturb people’s existing consensus on important issues like which flag to raise, which road to take, which goals to pursue, etc., and this will disrupt our nation’s stable progress on reform and development.

    Western anti-China forces and internal “dissidents” are still actively trying to infiltrate China’s ideological sphere and challenge our mainstream ideology. Some of their latest major efforts include: Some people have disseminated open letters and declarations and have organized petition-signings to vocalize requests for political reforms, improvement of human rights, release of “political prisoners,” “reversing the verdict on ‘6/4’[the Tiananmen Massacre],” and other such political demands; they have made a fuss over asset disclosure by officials, fighting corruption with the Internet, media supervision of government, and other sensitive hot-button issues, all of which stoke dissatisfaction with the Party and government. Western embassies, consulates, media operations, and NGOs operating inside China under various covers are spreading Western ideas and values and are cultivating so-called “anti-government forces.” Cooking up anti-government publications overseas. Within China’s borders, some private organizations are creating reactionary underground publications, and still others are filming documentaries on sensitive subject matter, disseminating political rumors, and defaming the party and the national leadership. Those manipulating and hyping the Tibetan self-immolations, manufacturing the violent terrorist attacks in Xinjiang, and using the ethnic and religious issues to divide and break up [the nation]. Accelerating infiltration of the Internet and illegal gatherings within our borders. “Dissidents” and people identified with “rights protection” are active. Some of them are working together with Western anti-China forces, echoing each other and relying on each other’s support. This clearly indicates that the contest between infiltration and anti-infiltration efforts in the ideological sphere is as severe as ever, and so long as we persist in CCP leadership and socialism with Chinese characteristics, the position of Western anti-China forces to pressure for urgent reform won’t change, and they’ll continue to point the spearhead of Westernizing, splitting, and “Color Revolutions” at China. In the face of these threats, we must not let down our guard or decrease our vigilance.

    Pay Close Attention to Work in the Ideological Sphere.
    Historical experience has proven that failures in the economic sphere can result in major disorder, and failure in the ideological sphere can result in major disorders as well. Confronting the very real threat of Western anti-China forces and their attempt at carrying out Westernization, splitting, and “Color Revolutions,” and facing the severe challenge of today’s ideological sphere, all levels of Party and Government, especially key leaders, must pay close attention to their work in the ideological sphere and firmly seize their leadership authority and dominance.

    1. Strengthen leadership in the ideological sphere.

    Party members and governments of all levels must become fully aware that struggles in the ideological sphere are perpetual, complex, and excruciating; you must strengthen awareness of the current political situation, big picture, responsibility, and risks. Leaders at all levels of government, you must strengthen your sense of responsibility—make work in the ideological sphere a high priority in your daily agenda, routinely analyze and study new developments in the ideological sphere, react swiftly and effectively, and preemptively resolve all problems in the ideological sphere.

    2. Guide our party member and leaders to distinguish between true and false theories.

    Forcefully resist influential and harmful false tides of thoughts, help people distinguish between truth and falsehood, and solidify their understanding. Party members, especially high-level leaders, must become adept at tackling problems from political, big-picture, strategic, and theoretical perspective. They must clearly recognize the essence of false ideas and viewpoints, both their theoretical falsehood and the practical political harm they can cause. We must have a firm approach and clear-cut stance toward major political principles, issues of right and wrong, what to support and what to oppose. We must uphold strict and clear discipline, maintaining a high-level unity with the Party Central Committee under the leadership of General Secretary Xi Jinping in thought, political stance, and action. We must not permit the dissemination of opinions that oppose the Party’s theory or political line, the publication of views contrary to decisions that represent the central leadership’s views, or the spread of political rumors that defame the image of the Party or the nation.

    3. Unwavering adherence to the principle of the Party’s control of media.

    The [principle of the Party’s control of media] stems from our political system and the nature of our media. We must maintain the correct political direction. We must firmly hold fast to the principle of the media’s Party spirit and social responsibility, and that in political matters it must be of one heart and mind with the Party. We must persist in correct guidance of public opinion, insisting that the correct political orientation suffuse every domain and process in political engagement, form, substance, and technology. We must give high priority to building both the leadership and rank and file in the sphere of media work. We need to strengthen education on the Marxist perspective of media to ensure that the media leadership is always firmly controlled by someone who maintains an identical ideology with the Party’s Central Committee, under General Secretary Xi Jinping’s leadership.

    4. Conscientiously strengthen management of the ideological battlefield.

    When facing sensitive events and complex puzzles in the ideological sphere, we should implement the principle that the people in charge assume responsibility and use territorial management.

    We must reinforce our management of all types and levels of propaganda on the cultural front, perfect and carry out related administrative systems, and allow absolutely no opportunity or outlets for incorrect thinking or viewpoints to spread. Conscientiously implement the “Decision of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress on Strengthening Information Protection on Networks,” strengthen guidance of public opinion on the Internet, purify the environment of public opinion on the Internet. Improve and innovate our management strategies and methods to achieve our goals in a legal, scientific, and effective way.

  100. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the socialism with Chinese characteristics system of governance

    LOL.

  101. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    $1 says they will do a Pearl Harbour. 5 years tops.

    Yer on.

    Why bother?
    One way or another, Trump’s gone in five years.
    Soon after that the Chinese will buy Pearl Harbour, and the Yanks will pay rent to use it.
    Just like we do in Darwin.

  102. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    We lost.

    Au contraire, MV. By their tumbrils and trebuchets, you shall know them.

  103. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Civil society is a socio-political theory that originated in the West. It holds that in the social sphere, individual rights are paramount and ought to be immune to obstruction by the state.

    Correctomundo, you stupid evil collectivist cockheads.

  104. thefrollickingmole

    1735099
    #3253752, posted on December 6, 2019 at 2:12 pm
    Stark evidence of the obscenity of executive remuneration.

    Says the chap who bragged of paying $15,000,000 tax over a few years.

  105. cohenite

    Time for some minigun action:

  106. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    By their tumbrils and trebuchets, you shall know them.

    You’re joking of course.
    I’m afraid ” vote Liberal ‘cos at least they’re not Labor” is about as close to political “action” as you’re ever going to get around here. And it’s not much different elsewhere.

  107. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the chap who bragged of paying $15,000,000 tax over a few years

    Which of course, was a mere 93.1% of his income over that period.

  108. PMV When half of the eastern suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne can no longer pay their mortgages they will become very different people.

  109. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    When half of the eastern suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne can no longer pay their mortgages they will become very different people

    Especially once they’ve been gifted with frequent interminable blackouts due to the actual consequences of their love affair with renewable energy.

  110. Poider:

    “fvck off with my gratuitous comments”.

    What was the context?

  111. DrBeauGan

    I found that Chinese manifesto very cheering. With that kind of bureaucratic centralism and dogma, their economy will collapse within decades at most. With everybody required to toe the party line, there is no scope for creative thinking. The place is well on the way to becoming a hellhole, then it will collapse. They are making enemies of all of their own people who have a trace of originality. Keep it coming, you devout collectivists.

  112. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    IR, When half of the eastern suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne can no longer pay their mortgages . .
    the government will introduce a system of lifetime rental, automatically deducted from people’s bank accounts, on which they will be paying negative interest on anyway.

    The sheeple will remain docile, grateful to at least have a roof over their heads.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    POLICEMAN NOT PUNISHED FOR STONING WOMBAT. HAS RACE CARD
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    December 6, 2019 3:56pm
    Subscriber only

    More proof of our legal apartheid. Many viewers were horrified by film of an off-duty policeman stoning a wombat to death, while laughing.

    South Australia police have now released the outcome of an internal investigation.

    It confirms that there is now a legal apartheid in this country – different rules for different races.

    Yes, the stoning was cruel, admits the investigation chief:

    But, no, the officer will not be charged, because of his race:

    The investigators have ascertained that as a traditional Aboriginal man, the Senior Community Constable has an appropriate permit to hunt wombats for food. Whilst distressing to many who viewed the video, it has been established the Senior Community Constable’s actions were not inconsistent with traditional hunting practices. I have been advised that the wombat in the video was killed and eaten.

    From Bolta. F.M.S.

  114. Mother Lode

    Civil society is a socio-political theory that originated in the West. It holds that in the social sphere, individual rights are paramount and ought to be immune to obstruction by the state.

    I will bet Numbers read that and creamed his pants in ecstasy.

    OmPoida would have read it and decided he would quibble the first ‘a’, the second ‘in’, and the ‘ought to’ (ought to be ‘should’) but otherwise perfectly encapsulates all Cats and Kittehs because they are leftist collectivis swine.

    8th Dung will agree with Numbers wholeheartedly, and will post comments expressing this once she hears what Numbers’ opinion actually is.

    Septimus will have his eyes rolled back in his head and be a million miles away imaging all the skin suits he could make in a single Chinese re-education centre.

  115. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    I see the sewer scum has shown up again. Phones to Cuba must be down.
    Time to find something else to do, where the air is less polluted with the stench.

  116. pete m

    peter MV grow a pair and stop flouncing off because you dislike a commenter.

    No-one gives a shit really and your little tantrums are boring as fuck pleas for someone to ask you what is troubling your little soul. And no, I don’t give a toss either.

  117. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I found that Chinese manifesto very cheering. With that kind of bureaucratic centralism and dogma, their economy will collapse within decades at most. With everybody required to toe the party line, there is no scope for creative thinking. The place is well on the way to becoming a hellhole, then it will collapse. They are making enemies of all of their own people who have a trace of originality. Keep it coming, you devout collectivists.

    I’ve been to china it’s already a repressed corrupt shithole.

    during the gfc everyone was saying china would collapse. I said it wouldn’t. why? the party controls everything. prices rising too fast? issue controls. too much debt, who cares, its fiat money. zombie companies, zombie banks pose no threat to the CCP. unemployment rising? launch mass construction projects, use spoons if needed.

    china’s weakness is its dependence on the USD and its foreign reserves. starve china of US dollars and it will have a real social crisis.

  118. cohenite

    The investigators have ascertained that as a traditional Aboriginal man, the Senior Community Constable has an appropriate permit to hunt wombats for food. Whilst distressing to many who viewed the video, it has been established the Senior Community Constable’s actions were not inconsistent with traditional hunting practices. I have been advised that the wombat in the video was killed and eaten.

    Yeah, it’s disgusting; but if the public really knew what the 65th nations are doing to turtles and dugongs under their fucking rights maybe just maybe the sheeple pendulum may switch to action against these bastards.

  119. cohenite

    And I’m calling bullshit on the claim wally the wombat was eaten

  120. Any advice on search terms for a quote I made some time ago?
    I tried
    catallaxy + files + fuck + off + with + my + gratuitous + comments

    But it isn’t coming up with anything searching from the main page of my Brave browser. I do vaguely remember that there’s a search function for CF, but I cannot find it.

  121. Boambee John

    Dr BG

    I found that Chinese manifesto very cheering. With that kind of bureaucratic centralism and dogma, their economy will collapse within decades at most. With everybody required to toe the party line, there is no scope for creative thinking. The place is well on the way to becoming a hellhole, then it will collapse. They are making enemies of all of their own people who have a trace of originality. Keep it coming, you devout collectivists.

    Add to that the demographic dip caused by 30+ years of the One Child Policy, and we live in interesting times!

  122. DrBeauGan

    China has a number of weaknesses, zippy. The demographics of the one child policy, the dependence on economic growth to keep the proles in line, the dead hand of a bureaucratic state and the sheer lack of appeal of the communist religion. Its strengths are mainly stealing technology and, briefly, capitalism from the west and the nationalism card. I don’t think the strengths are going to last much longer. It’s well past peak growth, and the corruption carries a high price. It will fracture within ten or twenty years.

    The last time I predicted a state failure it was Venezuela, and it happened much faster than I expected.

  123. Takes two to tango.

    China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate

    We are selling out to them.
    Where lies the “blame”?

  124. jo

    I’m with you DrBG. I think the commo’s are very worried probably more from the army than the citizens.

  125. feelthebern

    Kookaburras clearly have a higher rank than wombats when it comes to the legal system.

  126. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We are selling out to them.
    Where lies the “blame”?

    That’s the point that’s usually overlooked.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate

    We are selling out to them.
    Where lies the “blame”?

    Or are we indulging on a global cunning plan the likes of which would make a fox turn up its nose in disgust!
    (stop laughing at the back)…

    If China was to throw its toys out of the pram and get in a shooting match with the US over Taiwan (or even Vietnam/ South china sea) what happens to all the “enemy” property?
    Is it a global “well be taking the shit back in 10 years anyway” game?

    Im sure we have a crack team of the best, brightest minds in the public service working day and night on how to capitalize on “recovered” Chinese businesses & properties.
    (stop sniggering).

    In retrospect, American internment policies are troubling, but they’re dwarfed by a quieter and more sweeping practice of property seizure. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, President Wilson appointed an “Alien Property Custodian” named A. Mitchel Palmer to take control of property that might hinder the war effort. Among other things, this meant all property belonging to interned immigrants, regardless of the charges (or lack thereof). “All aliens interned by the government are regarded as enemies,” wrote Palmer, “and their property is treated accordingly.”
    The basic argument was that property seizure prevented immigrants from financially or materially supporting enemies of America. Under Palmer’s direction, the Office of the Alien Property Custodian grew to employ hundreds of officials and used several high-profile cases of espionage and industrial sabotage to defend its work. German chemical companies in the United States were particularly vulnerable to seizure: not only did dye and pharmaceutical companies divert raw materials from the war effort, they could also in theory produce explosives.

    The agency’s powers were remarkably broad, however. In Munsey’s Magazine, Palmer described the Alien Property Custodian as “the biggest general store in the country,” noting that some of the companies seized were involved in “pencil-making in New Jersey, chocolate manufacture in Connecticut, [and] beer-brewing in Chicago.” There were small holdings seized from individuals, too. “Among them,” he continued with an odd hint of pride, “are some rugs in New York; three horses near Joplin, Mississippi; [and] a carload of cedar logs in the South.” (Historians will probably never figure out why Palmer wanted those rugs in New York.) The historian Adam Hodges found that even women who were American citizens, if married to German and Austro-Hungarian immigrants, were classified as enemy aliens—and they alone lost a combined $25 million in property to the government.

    Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-confiscated-half-billion-dollars-private-property-during-wwi-180952144/#O9vfdf83WXbQ2z9G.99
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  128. Some History

    The Castle reassurances over the last year of a “strong position” were all just wonky bravado. Word is that Poncharse Pirate has been walking funny the last few days and if he wasn’t already bald, would have ripped out what hair he had left.

    Australia reacts to Israel Folau settlement with Rugby Australia
    Australian commentators have amplified calls for Rugby Australia boss Raelene Castle to fall on her sword for the “costly debacle” with Israel Folau.

    RTWT

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/australia-reacts-to-israel-folau-settlement-with-rugby-australia/news-story/18b5f344ec602b647facb9dab0b11069

  129. Some History

    The Quantass pipsqueak has been unusually quiet of late.

  130. Some History

    Poor Pirate can’t catch a break. Do you need a good Cook book?
    Well, the Pirate has a deal for you.

    Don’t miss out on 10% off my new book James Cook through Booktopia! Use the code COOK10 before December 31st”

    https://twitter.com/Peter_Fitz/status/1202397848983097345?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    You can also use the code “JACKASS10”

  131. Snoopy

    cohenite
    #3253911, posted on December 6, 2019 at 5:26 pm
    And I’m calling bullshit on the claim wally the wombat was eaten

    Photos or it didn’t happen.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    Poor Pirate can’t catch a break. Do you need a good Cook book?
    Well, the Pirate has a deal for you.

    Don’t miss out on 10% off my new book James Cook through Booktopia! Use the code COOK10 before December 31st”

    They are absolutely flogging it hard on 3AW with adverts every 15 minutes.
    I suspect sales a running at glacial pace.

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I have been advised that the wombat in the video was killed and eaten.’

    Pig’s arse it was.

    Nobody, and I mean nobody laughs for the camera while killing stuff for sustenance.

  134. Caveman

    Nobody, and I mean nobody laughs for the camera while killing stuff for sustenance.

    I was about to say the same.

  135. Nick

    Lefties: Captain Cook was a white, male racist and violator of indigenous rights !

    Lefties: ooh, have you read Pirate Pete’s new tome about Cook? You should buy it.

  136. Top Ender

    Bandanna Man’s latest: Cook’s Voyages Down Under

    Scene: Cook boards the Endeavour

    Cook: hello my men

    Sailors: G’day you stuck up British bastard.

    (Cook turns to the 1st Lieutenant)

    Cook: have we recruited only men from the Antipodes, my sturdy fellow?

    1st Lieutenant: Too right, and me too, me old cobber.

    Cook: Oh dear. (Exits)

    K-Mart doorstopper special! Was $45, now $15. Use promo code BritBastard for 20% off.

  137. Mindfree

    Hi Guys

    Who, if anyone has endured Tim Minchin’s “Upright”?

    Heavily promoted by Foxtel, is there anyone who has seen it so the rest of us don’t have to and if you have give us a critique. (Apparently the SMH and the Granuiad love it)

    Thanks.. just asking

  138. Roger

    The investigators have ascertained that as a traditional Aboriginal man, the Senior Community Constable has an appropriate permit to hunt wombats for food.

    One often hears this term “aboriginal man” bandied about by journalists.

    Traditionally it meant the fellow concerned had been through initiation rites which involved knocking out teeth and/or cutting the flesh.

    One wonders how many of those who claim this status or are described as such have actually been through these rites? In the case of many urbanised indigenous folk, the rites would be long forgotten.

  139. Davey Boy

    The gentleman on the left hand side of this picture is an Australian citizen, who has just been sentenced to 12 years in a Vietnamese gaol for “terrorism”

    His home is in western Sydney, he is 70 years old and is a democracy advocate. Despite many calls for assistance by his friends, family and citizens to the federal government – including to the PM and Dept. Foreign Affairs &Trade – not a finger has been lifted by our ruling elite.

    But that’s ok, ScoMo assures us that Australia and Vietnam have gone from being friends to mates.

  140. Knuckle Dragger

    Roger,

    Correct. In Central Australia and most of the APY lands in northern SA, you’re not a ‘traditional’ man until you’re whistlecocked.

    So I’m quite happy to let Pretend Policeman Whatsisname off the hook, just as long as he’s had the sav sliced open lengthways with a sharp rock.

  141. Doc BowGhan:

    The last time I predicted a state failure it was Venezuela, and it happened much faster than I expected.

    As failures and bankrupts do – “I went bankrupt slowly, then all at once.”

  142. Davey Boy

    Elderly Australian citizen from western Sydney gets banged up in a foreign commo gaol (probably to die there) and the LibNat govt doesn’t give a shit.

    The ultimate expression to citizens that we don’t matter

  143. Nick

    How long before Qantas reverts to TAA? Trans Australia Airlines

  144. Eyrie

    Davey Boy, no one person can fix the world. Sometimes it is better to relax, count your blessings and enjoy your life in Australia, particularly when Australia is run by traitorous scum who really don’t care about human rights, liberty or democracy. If they knew what they were, anyway.

  145. Roger

    So I’m quite happy to let Pretend Policeman Whatsisname off the hook, just as long as he’s had the sav sliced open lengthways with a sharp rock.

    Do you suppose the VicPol investigators conducted a physical examination to confirm the fellow’s claim?

    No; yet another example of authorities being played for fools by indigenous ratbags.

  146. classical_hero

    Where did China get the idea of socialism from? Was it a western idea?

  147. 8th Dan

    The Folau kerfuffle is sooo yesterday.

  148. Snoopy

    Nobody, and I mean nobody laughs for the camera while killing stuff for sustenance.

    Nothing improves the palatability of game meat like adrenaline and bruising.

  149. classical_hero

    Roger, it was SaPol.

  150. Snoopy

    8th Dan
    #3253974, posted on December 6, 2019 at 7:18 pm
    The Folau kerfuffle is sooo yesterday.

    Has he spent all the money already?

  151. JC

    Lord, there are fucking arseholes in this world. We’re having drinks on the banks of the Brisbane river. I took a few puffs of a vape and a staff member is sent asking not to vape in the beer garden. He said someone had told on me. Its odourless.

    These would be the informers in the old Soviet Union.

  152. Arky

    If you were playing a war game and you could choose from two opponents:
    A: Has a population of 1.4 billion. Has social unity. Brand spanking new infrastructure. Has all the plant and equipment as it is the manufacturing hub through which all supply chains pass. Has a totalitarian government with none of the constraints of democracies. Has almost a hundred other countries signed on to it’s new and betterer version of the internet. Education and training run by realists.
    B: Has population of 320 million. De-industrialised. Failing infrastructure. Fractured borders and crumbling social cohesion. Two party system where one party hates it’s own citizens and everything they stood for. An opioid crisis that makes the opium wars look tame. All education and training run by hard left socialists. Almost all military equipment dependent on products manufactured within opponent A’s territory.
    ..
    Which opponent would you choose to play?

  153. Roger

    Roger, it was SaPol.

    Thanks for the correction!

  154. Roger

    Which opponent would you choose to play?

    China is a long way from matching US military capabilities.

    As for China’s social unity…

  155. Arky

    China is a long way from matching US military capabilities.

    As for China’s social unity…

    ..
    Legacy military capability v manufacturing capability.
    Which is better?
    If you are talking innovation, in what is each power innovating?

  156. thefrollickingmole

    The Castle reassurances over the last year of a “strong position” were all just wonky bravado. Word is that Poncharse Pirate has been walking funny the last few days and if he wasn’t already bald, would have ripped out what hair he had left.

    I caught a bit of da pirate being given a handy on their ABC just after the settlement.

    one of his points was along the lines of “Well clubs will be thinking twice before they sign on any Christians in the future as a result of this’. (couldnt find the transcript)
    While the fellatrix hummed in agreement in the studio.

  157. Arky

    As for China’s social unity…

    ..
    China is a 1000s of years old, monoculture.
    The US?

  158. Arky

    Put it another way.
    If China and the US started a race to return man to the moon, who do you think would win?

  159. thefrollickingmole

    China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate

    We are selling out to them.
    Where lies the “blame”?

    Or are we indulging on a global cunning plan the likes of which would make a fox turn up its nose in disgust!
    (stop laughing at the back)…

    Its been done before.
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-confiscated-half-billion-dollars-private-property-during-wwi-180952144/#O9vfdf83WXbQ2z9G.99

    If China was to throw its toys out of the pram and get in a shooting match with the US over Taiwan (or even Vietnam/ South china sea) what happens to all the “enemy” property?
    Is it a global “well be taking the shit back in 10 years anyway” game?

    Im sure we have a crack team of the best, brightest minds in the public service working day and night on how to capitalize on “recovered” Chinese businesses & properties.
    (stop sniggering).

  160. Roger

    If you are talking innovation, in what is each power innovating?

    I thought we were talking war games?

  161. Tel

    Which opponent would you choose to play?

    I would choose B because it has the largest Navy and by far the best Air Force on the whole planet. It also has a significant lead in technology that has lasted almost 100 years (and most other tech leaders on Earth are either allies of A or at least largely compliant), and it has a track record of absolutely obliterating the last centrally planned opponents that had some earlier attempts at the championship. Indeed, one of those earlier opponents was smashed using technology that didn’t even exist before that war started and which continues to horrify people today just thinking about it.

    On the other hand A has never actually won anything … in its entire history.

  162. thefrollickingmole

    No link because berzerk insicterator.

    China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate

    We are selling out to them.
    Where lies the “blame”?

    Or are we indulging on a global cunning plan the likes of which would make a fox turn up its nose in disgust!
    (stop laughing at the back)…

    If China was to throw its toys out of the pram and get in a shooting match with the US over Taiwan (or even Vietnam/ South china sea) what happens to all the “enemy” property?
    Is it a global “well be taking the shit back in 10 years anyway” game?

    Im sure we have a crack team of the best, brightest minds in the public service working day and night on how to capitalize on “recovered” Chinese businesses & properties.
    (stop sni ggering#).

    # Seriously s n igg ering sets off the Insincterator??

  163. Arky

    I thought we were talking war games?

    ..
    We are at war. And losing.

  164. Eyrie

    “These would be the informers in the old Soviet Union.”

    Ops normal in Australia, nation of dobbers, JC. If the Stasi were here they’d be overwhelmed with volunteer informers. There’d be few left to inform upon. It’s the convict heritage, hoping to curry favour with the warders.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    That’s another well-underused word in the intercourse of life.

    Fellatrix.

    I will use this word in conversation at some point in the next 24 hours. Somehow.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    Up till now I was going with fellator, but then realised that Alan Joyce and Jon Faine fell into that category.

  167. Roger

    If China and the US started a race to return man to the moon, who do you think would win?

    Now we’re talking space programs?

  168. Arky

    It’s the convict heritage, hoping to curry favour with the warders.

    ..
    It is human nature. It is how citizens always behave in a police state.

  169. Roger

    We are at war. And losing.

    Now you’re talking sense.

  170. thefrollickingmole

    Arky

    How many of your enemies systems have chips which may or may not have the ability to be wrecked embedded in their systems?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

    Nested on the servers’ motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn’t part of the boards’ original design. Amazon reported the discovery to U.S. authorities, sending a shudder through the intelligence community. Elemental’s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA’s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships. And Elemental was just one of hundreds of Supermicro customers.

    During the ensuing top-secret probe, which remains open more than three years later, investigators determined that the chips allowed the attackers to create a stealth doorway into any network that included the altered machines. Multiple people familiar with the matter say investigators found that the chips had been inserted at factories run by manufacturing subcontractors in China.

    But Muh Russia…..

  171. Arky

    Now we’re talking space programs?

    ..
    Yes Roger, because to win a 21st century hot war you need GPS guidance for munitions.
    And to win a 21st century cold war you need GPS for information services.

  172. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China has a number of weaknesses, zippy. The demographics of the one child policy, the dependence on economic growth to keep the proles in line, the dead hand of a bureaucratic state and the sheer lack of appeal of the communist religion. Its strengths are mainly stealing technology and, briefly, capitalism from the west and the nationalism card. I don’t think the strengths are going to last much longer. It’s well past peak growth, and the corruption carries a high price. It will fracture within ten or twenty years.

    I’m usually a demographic doomsayer, however one has to understand the china socialism model, ie socialism with chinese characteristics. Those characteristics are capitalism.

    china has not built a colossal bureaucracy.

    what it has, is stage managed capitalism. companies exist at the please of the party. One holds shares at the pleasure of the party. winners are picked by the party. funding is virtually unlimited for strategic sectors or party favourites. bad debts are just rolled over to infinity. competition both local and international are crushed by any means. the party sits on the boards of important companies and decisions are aligned with party aims. there is no level playing field, there is just the field the communist party permits. there is no rule of law, just the laws the party inflicts. no separation of powers. no transparency. no accountability. no privacy. no rights. no freedoms. it’s a pure capitalist kabuki theatre.

    the entire system is now structured around technology monopolies that are aligned with party aims, which are control, self preservation and global power.

    all funded with US dollars. china has built 1984 and is morphing into the borg. everything must be assimilated.

  173. Roger

    Yes Roger, because to win a 21st century hot war you need GPS guidance for munitions.
    And to win a 21st century cold war you need GPS for information services.

    Sure, but you don’t need to put a man on the moon for that.

  174. Arky

    Artificial intelligence will be more important than satellites.
    The ability of missiles to read the terrain directly, ground to map using sensors day or night.

  175. Arky

    Sure, but you don’t need to put a man on the moon for that.

    ..
    It is the same capability.

  176. Roger

    Speaking of 21st C. wars, China’s military is lartegly based on mid 20th C. models – something Xi has recognised.

    It will be at least a generation before China surpasses US military capability, and that assumes they will remain politically stable and economically prosperous in the meantime.

  177. max

    you need GPS guidance for munitions.
    you need GPS for information services.

    What happens if you knock out their satellites ? No more GPS.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    Don’t think they haven’t wargamed this.

    Any potential conflict with Chai-nerrr would by necessity have to be primarily naval and aerial.

    Hit the infrastructure from afar. Not surgically, not one target at a time. I mean carpetbomb that shit back to the Stone Age, and sink anything going near it by sea. Make Western China uninhabitable and the punters living there move to eastern China.

    You can’t take and hold ground in China. It’s too big, like Russia. The Sons of Nippon tried it, and got swallowed up by the country in the process.

    Maybe Taiwan and the Philippines have to go as collateral damage, maybe not.

    It all depends on what you’re prepared to do.

  179. Top Ender

    Pauline Hanson is under fire for suggesting Aborigines should be DNA tested before receiving welfare because too many ‘blue-eyed with blond hair’ indigenous people get handouts

    By BRETT LACKEY FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

    PUBLISHED: 13:56 AEDT, 4 December 2019 | UPDATED: 06:41 AEDT, 5 December 2019

    Pauline Hanson is facing calls for her removal from a cross-party working group on indigenous issues after she said Aboriginal people should be DNA tested.

    She has been accused of deliberately making the divisive comments after saying people who identified as Indigenous and were applying for government support should be made to take the DNA tests.

    ‘Too many people claim Aboriginal status because of some distant link just because they want easy handouts from the Government — some of them are blue-eyed with blond hair,’ Senator Hanson said.

    ‘I support DNA testing for those who claim to be indigenous, and they must achieve at least 25 per cent Aboriginality to qualify for focused government support, which must also be based on need, not race.’

    Scientists have previously said the ability to test for Aboriginal genealogy does not exist.

    The working group had its first meeting in Canberra on Tuesday night with Senator Hanson already creating controversy.

    The group, headed by Minister for Indigenous Australians Ken Wyatt, does not have any formal powers but is aimed at achieving consensus in Parliament for constitutional recognition for First Nations peoples.

    The group also includes shadow Minister for Indigneous Australians Linda Burney, WA senator Matt O’Sullivan, and WA Greens senator Rachel Siewert.

    ‘Leadership is about bringing people together and not driving them apart. Australian does not need comments which are deliberate, calculated and designed to grab headlines,’ Ms Burney said.

    Senior Indigenous Research Fellow at Curtin University Dr Hannah McGlade demanded that Hanson be removed from the working group The West Australian reported.

    A spokesperson for Mr Wyatt told Daily Mail Australia that while Mr Wyatt did not agree with her comment there were no plans to remove Ms Hanson from the group.

    Daily Mail link

  180. Arky

    In 1939, the United States Army ranked thirty-ninth in the world, possessing a cavalry force of fifty thousand and using horses to pull the artillery. Many Americans — still trying to recover from the decade-long ordeal of the Great Depression — were reluctant to participate in the conflict that was spreading throughout Europe and Asia. President Roosevelt did what he could to coax a reluctant nation to focus its economic might on military preparedness. If the American military wasn’t yet equal to the Germans or the Japanese, American workers could build ships and planes faster than the enemy could sink them or shoot them down.

    In the wake of Pearl Harbor, the president set staggering goals for the nation’s factories: 60,000 aircraft in 1942 and 125,000 in 1943; 120,000 tanks in the same time period and 55,000 antiaircraft guns. In an attempt to coordinate government war agencies Roosevelt created the War Production Board in 1942 and later in 1943 the Office of War Mobilization. To raise money for defense, the government relied on a number of techniques — calling on the American people to ration certain commodities, generating more tax revenue by lowering the personal exemption and selling government war bonds to individuals and financial institutions. All of these methods served to provide the government with revenue and at the same time keep inflation under control.

    War production profoundly changed American industry. Companies already engaged in defense work expanded. Others, like the automobile industry, were transformed completely. In 1941, more than three million cars were manufactured in the United States. Only 139 more were made during the entire war. Instead, Chrysler made fuselages. General Motors made airplane engines, guns, trucks and tanks. Packard made Rolls-Royce engines for the British air force. And at its vast Willow Run plant in Ypsilanti, Michigan, the Ford Motor Company performed something like a miracle 24-hours a day. The average Ford car had some 15,000 parts. The B-24 Liberator long-range bomber had 1,550,000. One came off the line every 63 minutes.

    -https://www.pbs.org/thewar/at_home_war_production.htm

  181. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Mooslims Australia” condemn “cruel and inhumane” Aust Govt over repeal of Medevac

    Michael Smith news.

  182. Snoopy

    Existence of Dark Emu avenue confirmed by Federal Court.

    Multi-clan elder Aunty Sandra Onus was among the members of the Djab Wurrung Heritage Protection Embassy who put in an application to protect trees under the federal Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act early last year.

    Ms Onus said she had a “bit of a cry” and felt immense relief upon hearing the appeal had been upheld.

    If I was Susan Ley, I would arrange a formal meeting with Ms Onus in Ararat. Then ask her to jump in the Comcar and identify the six particular culturally significant trees.

  183. Arky

    What happens if you knock out their satellites ? No more GPS.

    ..
    It is the same capability.
    If you have the rocket technology to put satellites in orbit or land on the moon, then you have the scientists, engineering and plant and equipment required to knock out enemy satellites. Or to build a missile defence network to make the nuclear deterrent obsolete.
    It is the same capability.

  184. Old Lefty

    Point well made about Pirate Pete, frollickingmole. And the same proponent of the Bandana Republic will of course poopoo the suggestion that Christians might face discrimination.

  185. Old Lefty

    Meanwhile, the Stalinst Hunchback of Spring Street will be furious that the get the Liberals inquiry of his ‘independent’anti-corruption bureau has gone near him. This wasn’t in my script!

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/premier-andrews-friendly-to-developers-at-heart-of-anti-corruption-hearing-20191206-p53hgv.html

  186. mh

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3253903, posted on December 6, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    Thanks Zippy. And thanks to Avi and TR News.

    Avi improving his craftsmanship.

  187. Nick

    Don’t think they haven’t wargamed this.

    They have. If the US holds Japan for 24 hours, they win.

  188. Roger

    Leadership is about bringing people together and not driving them apart….’ Ms Burney said.

    Campaign to end race based policies then, Ms.Burney.

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Leadership is about bringing people together and not driving them apart….’ Ms Burney said.

    The same Linda Burney, who repeated all the discredited old bullshit about Aborigines having their lives governed by the “Flora and Fauna”act, until 1967?

  190. old bloke

    The Vasco da Gama, travelling from London, has lost all power and has been drifting in the St Vincent Gulf near Adelaide for hours.

    EMP attack?

    About four or five years ago, the US and Japanese navies were conducting joint training exercises in the South China Sea. Beijing objected.

    Three things then happened over a two or three day period:

    1. A submarine ballistic missile was fired off the coast of Los Angeles. It flew northwards within sight of the coast and had many witnesses.

    2. A USN aircraft carrier involved in the training exercise was given a surprise visit. A Chinese navy submarine surfaced next to the aircraft carrier, and its presence didn’t show on the ship’s defensive systems.

    3. A US cruise ship carrying several hundred passengers lost all their electrics. They were off the Pacific coast of Mexico when the ship’s power died. No food, no fresh water, no sewerage system, no showers. The passengers had to live on the deck as it was too smelly to go into the ship, they were towed back to San Diego.

    I wonder if the Vasco Pyjama’s plight is a warning to Australia.

  191. Roger

    The same Linda Burney, who repeated all the discredited old bullshit about Aborigines having their lives governed by the “Flora and Fauna”act, until 1967?

    Surely not.

    After all, “Australia does not need comments which are deliberate, calculated and designed to grab headlines”.

  192. max

    I mean carpetbomb that shit back to the Stone Age, and sink anything going near it by sea. Make Western China uninhabitable and the punters living there move to eastern China.

    The other mob are not going to be sitting on their hands. They will have the same idea and if NYC and Washington and ten other cities are smacked flat it will lead to nuclear escalations of conflicts everywhere. Everyone will follow suit.

  193. Snoopy

    They will have the same idea and if NYC and Washington and ten other cities are smacked

    the Democratic Party would be toast. 🙂

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    After all, “Australia does not need comments which are deliberate, calculated and designed to grab headlines”.

    From Linda Burney’s opening speech to Parliament

    It was the 150th anniversary of the Whitton public school; I was a cabinet minister at the time and I thought I looked pretty flash. A man a little older than me—I guess he would have been one of the big kids when I was at school—said to me, ‘You know, Linda, the day you were born was one of the darkest days this town has ever seen.’ I was so shocked I could not respond. You see, Mr Speaker, despite being more than 50 years on, I was born at a time when a white woman having an Aboriginal baby was shocking—and doubly so if that woman was not married. I was born at a time when the Australian government knew how many sheep there were but not how many Aboriginal people. I was 10 years old before the ’67 referendum fixed that.

    Tired, discredited old bullshit.

  195. Shy Ted

    SAPol also in trouble after officers were accused of referring to Aboriginal prisoners as “Davids”. Dobbed in by female partner of Aboriginal officer. Big money prizes if you get the code. I’ll post the answer later if no-one does.

  196. Arky

    Of course the US has lost the ability to put men on the moon, no longer having anything like a Saturn V, and will need considerable time and expense to regain it, if they ever do:

    ..
    WASHINGTON — The new head of NASA’s human spaceflight programs affirmed his support for the Space Launch System Dec. 3, saying the long-delayed heavy-lift rocket is “absolutely mandatory” for returning humans to the moon.

    Speaking at a town hall meeting with agency employees at NASA Headquarters, Doug Loverro, who started work Dec. 2 as the new associate administrator for human exploration and operations, and NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine pushed back against criticism that the SLS is too expensive to be sustainable for NASA compared to commercial vehicles that promise to cost far less.

    That lingering criticism of the SLS was renewed after an October letter by Russell Vought, acting director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), to Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Vought, in that letter, sought relief from a provision in a Senate appropriations bill that directed NASA to launch Europa Clipper, a mission to study Jupiter’s large icy moon Europa, on an SLS.

    “At an estimated cost of over $2 billion per launch for the SLS once development is complete, the use of a commercial launch vehicle would provide over $1.5 billion in cost savings,” Vought wrote.

    Bridenstine, though, claimed that cost estimate was too high. “I do not agree with the $2 billion number. It is far less than that,” he said at the town hall meeting. “I would also say the number comes way down when you buy more than one or two.”

    “I think at the end, we’re going to be at the $800 million to $900 million range. I don’t know, honestly,” he said, because NASA had just started negotiations with prime contractor Boeing on a long-term production contract for the SLS.

    Loverro said he disagreed with the belief that SLS was competing with commercial vehicles under development, such as Blue Origin’s New Glenn and SpaceX’s Starship/Super Heavy. “I think there is a large ecosystem of space capabilities, and we need every capability that the nation is going to provide, whether the nation provides it through government funding, as SLS is, or through entrepreneurial and commercial funding.”

    The SLS, he added, was essential to the goal of returning humans to the surface of the moon by 2024, the goal established by the Trump administration eight months ago. “The fact of the matter is, the only system we have today that is designed, purpose-built, to go ahead and get men to the moon and women to the moon is the SLS,” he said. “That program is absolutely mandatory, in my view right now, to go ahead and get there.”

    SLS will be one of Loverro’s top priorities as the new head of NASA’s Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate. The vehicle’s first launch, originally scheduled for the end of 2017, is now planned for no earlier than late 2020, and widely expected to slip into 2021. The vehicle’s core stage is nearing completion at the Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans and will be shipped around the end of December to the Stennis Space Center in Mississippi for testing, including a full-duration static-fire test.

  197. Snoopy:

    the Democratic Party would be toast. 🙂

    I was thinking about this the other day as I calculated how many nukes it would take to obliterate Iran, on Nukemap.
    With the Democrats base living for the most part in large cities, the demographics of a post WW3 world would be interesting, to say the least.

  198. Boambee John

    China is a 1000s of years old, monoculture.

    With a long tradition of warlordism and separatism in the more distant provinces.

    Oh, and I suspect that the various cultures of Manchuria, the Beijing region, south east China, south west China and Xinjiang might each have some subtle differences.

  199. areff

    Daves?

    In honour of David Gullilipiddle?

  200. Arky

    Oh, and I suspect that the various cultures of Manchuria, the Beijing region, south east China, south west China and Xinjiang might each have some subtle differences.

    ..
    I said China is a monoculture, not it’s conquered territories.

  201. Arky

    The Han Chinese are a monoculture.
    The People’s Republic of China is an expanding Han empire.
    The language is Mandarin, and the culture is Han Chinese.

  202. Boambee John

    KD

    You can’t take and hold ground in China. It’s too big, like Russia.

    The first two enduring principles of war: Don’t march on Moscow; Don’t march on Beijing.

  203. max

    All of the firepower in the world will make little difference if China has hacked Washington’s intelligence and technology networks. It will be as if Japan rather than the US cracked the codes before Pearl Harbor.

  204. Boambee John

    Arky

    I said China is a monoculture, not it’s conquered territories.

    Which parts of the Han empire do you regard as “China”?

  205. Arky

    Which parts of the Han empire do you regard as “China”?

    ..
    Over time, all of it.

  206. Arky

    Including Australia and New Zealand.

  207. Arky

    Here’s an experiment: Go to a Mandarin L.O.T.E teachers regional meeting in Australia and tell them your family is from Taiwan.

  208. max

    “The mountains are high, the Emperor far away.”

    Cantonese saying.

    Lots of different language groups in China. The attempt to impose Mandarin and simplified script goes on but in Hong Kong e.g. Cantonese flourishes. Who knows for how much longer. The Honkies despise the mainlanders and vice-versa.

  209. Nick

    China has never had a period of more than 100 years, without a revolution of sorts

  210. Nick

    Max, that saying translates as ‘ the cats away and the mice will play’

  211. Boambee John

    Arky

    Over time, all of it.

    Now, not next century.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    Davids.

    Asked around. No-one’s heard of it, but I’ll have a crack:

    Derro
    Aboriginal
    Victims
    In
    Detention

    I will consider this further wile losing at Keno.

  213. old bloke

    Arky
    #3254057, posted on December 6, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    The Han Chinese are a monoculture.
    The People’s Republic of China is an expanding Han empire.

    True, similarly “Indonesia” is just Javanese expansionism.

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    *while*

    How hard is it to get a friggin 5 spot?

    FFS.

  215. Arky

    Now, not next century.

    ..
    Now is irrelevant.
    What counts is the trend of the function and the bounding functions.
    The trend is clear.
    The bounding functions a bit less so.

  216. max

    As Hemlock likes to remind us, the Chinese leadership is dumb as a box of rocks. They know only one way – crush all resistance. The Hong Kong protesters have already won by exposing to the world the threat posed to freedom and human rights that China represents.

    The One Belt One Road thing is doomed. Nobody trusts them and everyone knows what they are up to. Just like the Hitler/ Stalin pact it will be smiles all round until the knives come out

  217. 132andBush

    Re the “Sacred Trees of Buangor”.
    Shed loads of money spent over whether to divert a multi million dollar, long overdue, road project in order to protect some anomalous lumps of wood.
    But just over the way at Stockyard Hill it’s no sweat for a Chinese owned “wind power” company to knock over a historic, community funded and built church and plonk an obscene eco crucifix on the site, because “it was too dilapidated to restore”.

  218. Nick

    Max, Hemlock is a legend.

  219. Arky

    Business as usual in China

    After Merkel’s China trip in September, the chief of German industrial giant Siemens, Joe Kaeser, warned Germany against taking too critical a stance, and advocated being “thoughtful and respectful” toward China.

    “If jobs in Germany depend on how we deal with controversial topics, then we shouldn’t add to indignation, but rather carefully consider all positions and actions,” said Kaeser in an interview with German newspaper Die Welt.

    Siemens, along with BASF and VW, operate factories in Xinjiang.

    After the US human rights act was signed by Trump last week, activist Joshua Wong asked the German government to follow the example of the US and create a mechanism for sanctions.

    However, the US is in the middle of an ongoing trade and economic dispute with China, and has more international clout. Berlin treads more carefully with Beijing and has tried to maintain a less volatile relationship as China is one of Germany’s most important trade partners with bilateral commerce reaching €199.3 billion ($221.2 billion) in 2018.

    “Of course, the German government must reconcile different interests in its China policy, including economic interests,” said human rights scholar Kinzelbach.

    “Unfortunately, we now have a very tricky situation that we are in a relationship of mutual dependency with China. For a democracy like Germany, it is not only morally problematic, but downright dangerous to bond so closely with a dictatorship.”

    -https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-germany-silent-on-chinas-human-rights-abuses/a-51545962

  220. old bloke

    The One Belt One Road thing is doomed. Nobody trusts them and everyone knows what they are up to. Just like the Hitler/ Stalin pact it will be smiles all round until the knives come out

    Similarities:

    Nazi (national socialist) Germany had a one party socialist dictatorial government, so does China.

    Nazi’s thought in racial terms, thinking themselves superior to the Untermensch, so does (Han) China.

    Nazi’s allowed “private” enterprise to continue, albeit under their control, so does the Chinese Communist Party.

  221. Arky

    Press Release Yoshimaro Hanaki
    7 May 2019 President and CEO
    Okuma Corporation
    Okuma Establishes Production Facility in China
    Okuma (Changzhou) Machine Tool Co. Ltd
    Okuma Corporation announced an investment agreement made on 12 April 2019 with
    the Wujin National High-Tech Industry Development Zone Management Committee
    (Changzhou City, Jiangsu Province, China) to establish Okuma (Changzhou) Machine
    Tool Co. Ltd (OCC) as a machine tool production subsidiary.
    Okuma (Changzhou) is a 100% wholly-owned subsidiary of Okuma Corporation (OCJ),
    and will be established in Changzhou City’s Wujin National High-Tech Industrial Development Zone.
    The Changzhou Wujin National High-Tech Industry Development Zone is located approximately 160 km west of Shanghai, about one hour by high-speed rail, and Japanese-affiliated companies focusing their operations on manufacturing robots, automobiles, auto parts, machinery etc, and have made inroads into the same area.
    Okuma (Changzhou) will manufacture the GENOS Series “premium-eco” class of
    horizontal CNC lathes and vertical machining centers, to meet the expanding demand in
    the Chinese market.

    ..
    -https://www.okuma.co.jp/english/news/2019/pdf/190507.pdf

  222. Arky

    Guangzhou Fanuc Robot Co Ltd, the South China base of the global robot giant Fanuc, began operations in the Guangdong provincial capital on Monday. It is expected to play a role in helping build Guangzhou Science City, located in the Guangzhou Development Zone, into an intelligent manufacturing center in the country.

    Covering an area of more than 40,000 square meters, the South China headquarters of the world’s largest robotics company will build a major base for robot manufacturing, assembly, processing, technical support, R&D, sales, exhibitions, training and warehousing in the coming years.

    ..
    -https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201911/19/WS5dd3a982a310cf3e355787b3.html

  223. Nick

    What’s your point Arky ? Xi knows that China will be a net importer of robots as it doesn’t have the designing cohort just yet, owing to a lack of critical thinking among kids

  224. Boambee John

    Arky
    #3254076, posted on December 6, 2019 at 9:14 pm
    Now, not next century.

    ..
    Now is irrelevant.
    What counts is the trend of the function and the bounding functions.
    The trend is clear.
    The bounding functions a bit less so.

    If you are talking about a war in the relatively near future, now is very relevant.

    In the long run we, and they, are all dead.

  225. Harlequin Decline

    David=Drunk and Violent in Detention?

  226. max

    Companies which base manufacturing in China now are taking a huge risk.

  227. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    another great Gen R Spalding interview

  228. Mother Lode

    If China and the US started a race to return man to the moon, who do you think would win?

    Now we’re talking space programs?

    If it was the Chinese who threw down the gauntlet then very possibly China, and if It was the US who threw it down I would think the US. If China threw down the gauntlet and the US decided to pick it up if would be because they had worked out they would win.

    The US has been a power for a century. There is an attitude tried and tested over that time. A recognition of martial austerity and sacrifice. America has a resilience and a depth. It has not really been tested of late, but I think the MSM exclusive focus on a few urban centres blinds them to other capacities of the nation.

    Whoever would have foreseen the rapid re-emergence of the old American spirit before Trump. He did not make it. But he gave it a nucleus around which it could coalesce.

    China is quite new as a power. They have stepped up repeatedly in unfavourable circumstances while China has only stepped up when it suited them. The relationship between the government and the people based on their economic advances is untested. How much discomfort would people accept. They might only have one party in the state, but that just means all the planes of fracture are within the party. A palace coup to sideline one kind of hardliners for a different style (perhaps more domestically focussed) is a possibility.

    America’s strength extends to the core, like a stone where each grain is bound to other grains. China’s is is more superficial – the way a balloon contains the air within it.

    And the Chinese experience at war is limited. They have men and equipment. How it acquits itself when the chips are down is by no means certain.

    None of this is a guarantee one way or the other, but I think the US has intangible advantages the Chinese can’t match.

    And I doubt the Chinese see it.

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