Open Forum: December 14, 2019

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  1. DrBeauGan says:

    I’ve just read a New York Times I found lying about the Air France lounge. It’s appalling. Maureen Dowd is well named, she’s also obtuse.

    I discovered that the air France lounge has American food at one end and French food and wine at the other. The 🐸 food and wines are superb. I have amost forgiven them for the smoking room.

  2. MatrixTransform says:

    This is getting into Delcon territory

    Juan’s a retard who thinks he’s special … and that’s all there is

  3. Overburdened says:

    Arky

    Jumping the shark

  4. Oh come on says:

    So Grigs has discovered another way to make people here pay attention to him. Well played, losers.

  5. cohenite says:

    The renewable morons never let up and even when they get their way and the lights go out, they’ll be screaming there wasn’t enough:

    I didn’t read the whole thing, I only got as far as the far left Australia Institute’s chief economist Richard Denniss’ suggestion of fitting 1,000,000 homes with rooftop PV solar. I couldn’t waste my time any further.
    1 million rooftop solar systems would equate to $4,000 each, which would be cheap indeed. According to Canstar, that might buy a 3kw system, but that doesn’t cover the approximately $2,000 Small Scale Technology certificates SCT’s subsidized by the federal government, plus any state government subsidies plus what it would cost the power suppliers to accept the feed-in from a million more rooftop solar, plus the payment by the power suppliers, subsidised by State Governments, for the feed-in power. The latter being an ongoing cost.
    So if we took a more typical 4.5kw – 6.0kw system, and the actual all up set up costs paid by the house holder directly, and taxpayers indirectly, you’d be lucky to have 400,000 to 500,000 rooftop PV systems installed for $4bn up front.
    But calling the survey nationally representative is a joke. The survey was mainly completed by ABC enthusiasts who were inclined to answer dozens of clearly loaded questions online.
    How did they arrive at the $4billion? By their own statement, they said the average respondent was prepared to pay $200 to tackle climate change.
    We all know that asking people to contribute money hypothetically is a much different proposition than actually getting money off them. Realistically, you would expect to collect a third of the hypothetical commitment, if lucky.
    But let’s assume the $200 amount is collected. That has to be collected from 20,000,000 individuals. We don’t have that many adults in Australia, let alone that many households or taxpayers, or employed persons.
    You’d have to divide their number by 4 to 5,000,000 at best.
    So maybe 5 million being prepared to pay $100 in real life would be closer to the truth. Which is $500 million or 12.5% of what the ABC claims.
    Then applying the more realistic true cost of say a 5kw PV rooftop system direct and indirect costs of approximately $7,500 you’d get 66,667 for the $500 million.
    That’s 6.7% of the 1 million claimed by the ABC’s go to man.
    Coincidentally that’s the mark I’d give the ABC survey results for accuracy and relevance.
    From the start to finish the Australia Talks survey and series of TV specials by the ABC has been an extravagant ideologically driven propaganda exercise.
    The leftist media can try all they like to convince us the people really want Hillary as US president, the UK to remain in the EU, the West to have unrestricted immigration, Bill Shorten for Australian PM, Jeremy Corbyn for UK PM, and more money spent on climate action. It still doesn’t make it true.

  6. Porter says:

    My news alert Black Ball tells me that Tim Flannery is the financer behind the fire chiefs carping on about fires and climate change.

  7. Oh come on says:

    There are a couple of noobs here who don’t know any better, but dot – you ought to know better.

  8. Overburdened says:

    Arma

    And the others if you chose to find them.

  9. Juan says:

    Juan

    I’m not being judgemental in asking this.

    Are you allowed to watch when there’s action? This could mitigate somewhat.

    I think that’s a given. Unless, of course, I close my eyes!

    So Juan is sitting there watching his wife get pleasured by other women.

    Not just, but continue … I’d like to see where this is going.

    But a couple of weeks back Juan carried on like a pork chop about George Christensen visiting a titty bar.

    This is getting into Delcon territory.

    I’ve made my choices in life and I’m exceedingly content. I do understand my choices would disqualify me from ever aspiring to public office. Despite being very politically engaged, I’m okay with that. I’m happy to remain behind the scenes where my personal life is no one else’s business.

    George Christensen should realise life involves sacrifices — only the most self-centred millennial would think they can truly have it all — and if he wants to gallivant around the bars of Angeles City he should give up his seat, and he certainly shouldn’t purport to represent a party which identifies as socially conservative!

    Can anyone seriously disagree with what I have written above?

  10. Armadillo says:

    Arky
    #3264952, posted on December 17, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    Errr…that looks disgusting. Are you colour blind?

  11. MatrixTransform says:

    where my personal life is no one else’s business.

    retard

  12. Arky says:

    Errr…that looks disgusting. Are you colour blind?

    ..
    Take it up with Henry Ford.
    Nothing to do with me.

  13. cohenite says:

    Can anyone seriously disagree with what I have written above?

    Yes, yes they can.

  14. Black Ball says:

    So Flannery going Soros now Porter? Wouldn’t surprise, flogs be flogging.

  15. EvilElvis says:

    Unfortunately, Boeing is running out of workarounds for the 737 if it wants to bolt the latest generations of engines onto the plane.

    At what point does a software workaround become unacceptable due to a physical engineering issue. I’d imagine a few MAXs may get retrofitted with newer but similar sized engines to the previous sizes, get the planes flying, cop the financial hit and get to work on giving the next 737 longer legs like the A320.

  16. mh says:

    Juan, the LNP doesn’t have much of an identity at all.

    Christensen represents the people of Dawson, and I doubt they give a toss about him visiting titty bars.

    I bet the people of Dawson love titty bars.

  17. Infidel Tiger says:

    At what point does a software workaround become unacceptable due to a physical engineering issue.

    When the insurance companies say “not covering that”.

  18. Oh come on says:

    You idiots. Your engagement with it thus far means it’ll be with us for another six months or so. You ensure it stays longer with every additional comment you direct at it.

    Shut up and ignore it, ffs.

  19. Juan says:

    Can anyone seriously disagree with what I have written above?

    Yes, yes they can.

    Great! So who’s going to argue the millennials’ case: George Christensen should be able to have it all! He should be able to spend 100-odd days a year in the Philippines patronising ‘bars’ which are a front for prostitution, and then come back to Australia and spend the remaining 250-odd days representing a party in parliament which identifies itself as standing for socially conservative values!

  20. Overburdened says:

    Yes.

    Not talking with you.

    Just telling you.

  21. Overburdened says:

    Btw thanks siltstone.

    I’m glad you like them.

  22. Narwhal Tusk says:

    Peter aka mv,
    I seem to recall that some time ago we were offered a battalion of Gurkas that were for some reason superfluous to the British army. The offer was rejected.
    Do you remember this or am I suffering from FITH syndrome?

  23. Oh come on says:

    . I’d imagine a few MAXs may get retrofitted with newer but similar sized engines to the previous sizes

    That’s not how the certification system works.

  24. mh says:

    Juan, what rules or laws has Big George broken?

    If Dawson voters believe he is not morally sound enough to represent them, they can vote him out at the next election.

  25. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault says:

    He should be able to spend 100-odd days a year in the Philippines patronising ‘bars’ which are a front for prostitution, and then come back to Australia and spend the remaining 250-odd days representing a party in parliament which identifies itself as standing for socially conservative values!

    Why not?
    Why should George be any different to the other 226 lying pricks who infest our parliament?

  26. Armadillo says:

    Take it up with Henry Ford. Nothing to do with me.

    Henry was probably murdered by a non-colourblind design engineer.

    [Disclaimer: I have no links to prove this, but I reckon I’m correct].

  27. MatrixTransform says:

    considering the synoptic charts and the prediction for Friday it appears that WallyWeather have conjured a high pressure system that will travel from WA to Tassie in 24 hrs.

    Looking at the Bom, we’ll need the high to sit over the Tasman and block for 3 days.

    cannot see 41 for Friday especially if they’re predicting 23 for Thursday

    it’s all bullshit

  28. Juan says:

    Juan, the LNP doesn’t have much of an identity at all.

    Christensen represents the people of Dawson, and I doubt they give a toss about him visiting titty bars.

    The LNP have disendorsed MPs for much less, e.g. former state MP Peter Dowling.

    I bet the people of Dawson love titty bars.

    Having been to Charters Towers, I will have to concede that point. 😉

  29. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault says:

    Narwhal Tusk
    #3264986, posted on December 17, 2019 at 11:14 pm

    I have no recollection of it, Tusk.
    But after four major strokes that doesn’t mean much. It took me six months just to relearn and remember my mobile phone number. If we were made such an offer it would have undoubtedly been rejected – too sensible.

  30. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Fat Bastard George:

    ‘If you don’t like my policies, don’t vote for me.’

    Returned. Thumping majority.

    The End.

  31. Juan says:

    Why not?
    Why should George be any different to the other 226 lying pricks who infest our parliament?

    How many other MPs spend 100 days per year in Angeles City?

  32. mh says:

    The LNP have disendorsed MPs for much less, e.g. former state MP Peter Dowling.

    I think he was disendorsed for repeat stupidity.

  33. Juan says:

    ‘If you don’t like my policies, don’t vote for me.’

    Continued: ‘ … but don’t ask me about what I was doing in the Philippines, because if you do I’ll lie through my teeth and deny it all.’

    The Australia public is pretty forgiving, maybe even especially the good burghers of Dawson on a matter like this, but it’s the denial that gets you into trouble.

  34. EvilElvis says:

    That’s not how the certification system works.

    Right. So going bigger and changing position is cool though?

  35. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Returned. Thumping majority.

    The End.

  36. Juan says:

    The LNP have disendorsed MPs for much less, e.g. former state MP Peter Dowling.

    I think he was disendorsed for repeat stupidity.

    Christensen’s stupidity spanned 2014 to 2018.

    His initial explanation was he was ‘visiting his fiancee, April Asuncion, and her family,’ except he only met her in 2017!

    Repeated stupidity.

  37. Narwhal Tusk says:

    Thanks Peter
    It may have just been a suggestion made and promptly ignored.
    As you say, too sensible.

  38. Armadillo says:

    George Christensen should realise life involves sacrifices — only the most self-centred millennial would think they can truly have it all — and if he wants to gallivant around the bars of Angeles City he should give up his seat, and he certainly shouldn’t purport to represent a party which identifies as socially conservative!

    So the problem here is that he identifies as being “socially conservative”? Is that your point? He is a “fake conservative”. I understand that.

    Apply your blow torch to the other side. How many times was Kevin Rudd holding press conferences outside of a church service?

  39. MatrixTransform says:

    if you fuck her, you can keep her, the end.

    unless your’e the one who’s kept

    Hi Juan

  40. MatrixTransform says:

    Hey Juan, does the boss know your’e posting private stuff about her?

  41. MatrixTransform says:

    Hey Juan, do you post here because yr a defiant little biatch?

  42. Armadillo says:

    The list of politicians who are utter fakes when in the public eye is endless. There are very few exceptions.

  43. Fat Bastard George:
    ‘If you don’t like my policies, don’t vote for me.’
    Returned. Thumping majority.
    The End.

    Yep.
    Supplementary task:
    Find any sane person in his electorate** who does not believe he’s never wavered from working his guts out to represent the interests of his constituents.

  44. Oh come on says:

    unless your’e the one who’s kept

    Hi Juan

    It doesn’t care how cutting you think you are. The whole thing is a ruse to bait you into interacting with it, and you (along with Armadillo and mh) are complying. What does it care as long as you are doing what it wants?

    Dummies.

    Welcome back, troll. These idiots left the gate open for you.

  45. MatrixTransform says:

    Hey Juan, do you realise that you’re not exactly presenting as an authority here?

  46. Rex Mango says:

    Just watched Last Jedi on ch9. Geez Disney has ruined that franchise. Was complete remake of Empire Strikes Back (best film in the series) with SJW’s taking over. Lot of racial tropes too, like smart Asian females etc, but the good sort of racism. Also the Empire has now become an equal opportunity employer. Everything was very PC, except for the truly evil people were all white males.

  47. MatrixTransform says:

    Hey Juan, are you allowed to be on the internet unsupervised?

  48. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault says:

    How many other MPs spend 100 days per year in Angeles City?

    I said the other 226 were also lying pricks. I never claimed they all told the same lies.
    Would you like me to start chronicling just some of the more outstanding examples from just the last five years – across ALL political parties?

    Let’s try an easier tack: How about you list a couple of the politicians who have dutifully and diligently represented the will of their electorate in all matters, rather than follow the directive of an unaccountable political party?

  49. How about you list a couple of the politicians who have dutifully and diligently represented the will of their electorate in all matters, rather than follow the directive of an unaccountable political party?

    Find another one who’s bucked their own party (okay, coalition) harder than Mr. Christensen.

  50. Rex Mango says:

    737’s about having the motors near the ground to save on servicing costs, but does introduce handling problems. As power increased those problems increased. The software was designed to prevent pilots having to be certified on a new aircraft. Thing is the crashes were third world airlines and any decent pilot should have been able to override the software. Does demonstrate a problem with aircraft designers and pilot training (worldwide perhaps?).

  51. mh says:

    Juan, from your link

    “George has referred himself to the independent parliamentary expenses authority and I’m sure that when that report comes in, George will comply with it,” Mr Morrison said.
    “He’s happy to have himself subjected to that independent scrutiny. That’s why we have such a commission … I have no doubt George will abide by the ruling that is handed down.”

    Sounds ok to me.

    And it’s good too see Big George settling down.

    The number of people from the Philippines is surprisingly high in regional Qld.

  52. MatrixTransform says:

    oco, yr prolly right

    …but it is fun

    waiting for it’s idiotic double-down is a special joy

  53. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, do you hold press conferences outside a swingers club?

  54. Armadillo says:

    Kevin Rudd would have to be the most narcissistic PM this country has even seen (closely followed by Malcom Turnball). Bob Hawke cried. Julia denied. Goff scoffed and Frasier dropped his pants.

    Keating is in a taxpayer funded office somewhere, awaiting his staff to open the coffin when the sun sets.

  55. a reader says:

    Maria Folau today announced her retirement from netball. My guess is that in her 30s, happily married and of a Christian faith she wants to start a family. I mean that’s the logical solution.

    Facebook/Twitter’s vitriol toward her today has been absolutely disgusting. Regardless of what you think of her husband, I thought the woke brigade would find it offensive to judge a woman by her husband. Apparently not. She’s a much a pariah as her husband. I mean what the actual fuck?

    Interestingly not a peep on Liz Ellis’ twitter. Probably not a surprise after she lead the pitchfork brigade to try and get her rubbed out of the game. But you know being probably the best Goal Attack of all time you would have expected something…

  56. Juan says:

    “George has referred himself to the independent parliamentary expenses authority and I’m sure that when that report comes in, George will comply with it,” Mr Morrison said.
    “He’s happy to have himself subjected to that independent scrutiny. That’s why we have such a commission … I have no doubt George will abide by the ruling that is handed down.”

    Sounds ok to me.

    The Independent Parliamentary Expenses Authority is as toothless a tiger as you’ll ever find within the Felidae family.

    Returning to my original point, we all have to make sacrifices in life, don’t we? No one has yet argued the case we should all be able to have it all. My private life can’t be compared to an MPs. If you want to, okay, but first kindly tip an MP’s $211,250 annual base salary into my account and then we’ll talk.

  57. mh says:

    …but it is fun

    waiting for it’s idiotic double-down is a special joy

    Yeah, like Delcon used to, lol

    He couldn’t help himself, and quickly burnt himself out. Good times.

  58. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault says:

    He’s happy to have himself subjected to that independent scrutiny.

    The independent parliamentary expenses authority.
    Yeah. Right.
    Nobody told me it was joke night at the Cat.

  59. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, how many threesomes?

  60. JC says:

    Juan, how many threesomes?

    If only, but I don’t think he even gets a look in.

  61. MatrixTransform says:

    to judge a woman by her husband

    but what does juan’s girlfriend’s girlfriend think? … that’s the important question

  62. JC says:

    Look who’s behind it. Look who’s behind the firefighter gerbil warming commandos. You know, if you walked this back and gave it some thought as to what imbecile was behind the stunt, you couldn’t get past the flan.

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Flannery

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of ex-fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires.

  63. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, what’s your channel on Pornhub called?

  64. MatrixTransform says:

    Hey juan, stop pretending to be spokesperson for the real real power.
    get the Dick Licker on the line

  65. Leigh Lowe says:

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3264659, posted on December 17, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Bloody hell. Just read Sir Ken’s full RC statement on the other thread.

    Seven figure compo is very much justified

    Fucking disgrace.
    We imported an A-grader who spotted the dodgy shit in five minutes flat and called it.
    They then shunted him from the force, but that wasn’t enough.
    The salad dodger Nixon and Simon Underhand were determined to destroy him.
    The set-ups and harassment are sickening.

  66. JC says:

    Juan, what’s your channel on Pornhub called?

    Juan’s bitch on bitches.

  67. Rex Mango says:

    A group of ex fire chiefs lobbying the government is little different to a bunch of WW1 vets lobbying the German govt.

  68. Armadillo says:

    These idiots left the gate open for you.

    To the pen. Easier to deal with them there than in an open paddock.

    Just think how many innocent minds they aren’t befouling by coming here instead of other blogs? You blokes seem to keep nUmbers occupied for most of the day. Think of the children. I know who deserves a medal.

  69. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, what are your thoughts on leswegians spreading human papillomavirus?:

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/lesbians-and-hpv-514139

  70. Rex Mango says:

    Dillo, you are correct. Imagine numbers free to roam the internet at will polluting young minds, or even worse say employed as a school teacher?

  71. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, threesomes may not be for everyone, but how many for you?

  72. Leigh Lowe says:

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    #3264913, posted on December 17, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    It it too late for Australian of the Year nominations?

    Ben Batterham anyone

    A run-off between Ben and Sir Ken Jones would be great.

  73. Black Ball says:

    Beside Total Divas is Mighty Planes. Tonight focussing on the Blue Angels aerobatic team. The Hercules plane taking the gear across from Pensacola to San Diego carries 20 tonne. But still I think that air show showcases America’s might. Very interesting show.

  74. JC says:

    Juan

    Have you tried couples therapy. I’m just not sure this marriage is working out.

  75. Rex Mango says:

    Numbers, almost forgot if you are going to post pictures of yourself in uniform, can you at least keep your finger outside the trigger guard, as you might look like an untrained conscript.

  76. Rex Mango says:

    BB, switching to Mighty Planes now, thanks. Was watching some lame American talkshow called Harry.

  77. Rex Mango says:

    Had a great VHS video of Blue Angels when they flew F4s.

  78. Armadillo says:

    I never knew Rudd cheated, but anyway.

    I very much doubt Therese Rein is on Pornhub.

  79. Juan says:

    Juan, how many threesomes?

    Not that many.

    When it happens, it happens. It’s not something we would go looking for. There’s nothing more pathetic and desperate than a couple looking for a ‘unicorn’.

    A high proportion of women in their 30s are open to bisexual adventures. If the stars align, just go with the flow.

  80. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, not that many is more than one. How many?

  81. Juan says:

    Have you tried couples therapy. I’m just not sure this marriage is working out.

    Thanks for your concern, but it’s more than fine. 😊

  82. Infidel Tiger says:

    Juan, it’s not a threesome if you sew eyes on the socks and use both hands.

    It is the reason your banned from working with children though.

  83. mh says:

    Juan, no spit roasts?

  84. Rex Mango says:

    Great video here re Blue Angels, in the A4 aka Ed Heinemann’s Hotrod & also numbers, probably the most successful aircraft over a certain North South East Asian Country:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PqVeex4QU

  85. Juan says:

    Juan, not that many is more than one. How many?

    Someone asked earlier how many each month, or something like that.

    Definitely less than monthly!

  86. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, no club sambos in your household?

  87. Juan says:

    Juan, no spit roasts?

    Think you need to change your Pornhub search settings there, mh. Like JC, if you can’t figure out how it works, don’t look to me! I’ll just leave you be with whatever you prefer searching for on the site of your choice.

  88. Armadillo says:

    A Cat (not sure who) described the photograph of Kevin and Therese exiting the aircraft in Afghanistan all dressed up in body armour as her looking like a “Porpoise”.

    I could have sworn she looked like a female Armadillo with lipstick. Not the most alluring sight I’ve ever seen.

  89. Rex Mango says:

    Juan, am keen to change me Pornhub search settings, if you could tell me your channel?

  90. Steve trickler says:

    Great work, Spencer. Hello all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_QkCUmXwUo

  91. Rex Mango says:

    ‘Fired up, ready to go Boss’ every Blue Angel says at the end of brief. Not sure that is too helpful to their show.

  92. Juan says:

    Juan, am keen to change me Pornhub search settings, if you could tell me your channel?

    You see, that’s the thing, I don’t have the time or the need for anything like that. IRL is much better. I think we can all agree on that point.

  93. mh says:

    Juan, I was only confirming your wife was going with women only, not other men.

    You stated she was bisexual, after all.

  94. Rex Mango says:

    Steve T, great to see you on deck. Have you got any videos in your archive with Juan in action?

  95. Rex Mango says:

    PS – 20sec into that video and amazing takeoff/photography

  96. Leigh Lowe says:

    Rex Mango

    #3265051, posted on December 18, 2019 at 12:29 am

    Had a great VHS video of Blue Angels when they flew F4s

    The F4.
    A triumph of thrust over aerodynamics.

  97. Rex Mango says:

    Leigh, yeah the F4 was no beauty, but it had a backseat and so made for a great video back in the 70’s. They only used the F4 for a few years due cost and bit unstable from memory. The A4 they flew for years, but not as impressive as the F4, nor as loud. Not that I have ever seen them.

  98. Rex Mango says:

    F105, the greatest aircraft ever built and the Thunderbirds used them for a season, until one broke up (problem later rectified):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DeMZIUIML0

  99. Black Ball says:

    Is Eva Marie a true red head?

  100. Stimpson J. Cat says:

    Richard Dawkins
    @RichardDawkins
    Surprised by common reverence for Plato. Alexandrians like Eratosthenes made superb progress. But what did Plato say that was actually right? And didn’t he mislead generations of theologians & philosophers into thinking you could find truth by making stuff up in an armchair?
    12:11 AM · Dec 17, 2019·

  101. Rex Mango says:

    Was Plato the bloke who talked about the cave and even if not, not sure Dawko will be remembered in 2500 years.

  102. Steve trickler says:

    Rex Mango. G’day.

    Iconic footage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEhcyvQic2s

  103. Mark A says:

    Do you hate Powerpoint?
    Many do and doing something about it too.
    Not my fav app. either.

    You might think that you don’t like PowerPoint presentations, but you’ve got nothing on Matthias Poehm. In 2011, Poehm, a former software engineer, founded the Anti-PowerPoint Party (APPP), a Swiss political party with, as you may have guessed, a distinctly anti-PowerPoint bent.

    The party was formed with the sole purpose of raising awareness about the inefficiencies of PowerPoint and other slide-show-style presentation software, how presentations lower engagement and motivation, and how they ultimately cost Switzerland (and other countries) large sums of money due to lost productivity.

    While the APPP hasn’t exactly taken over the Swiss government, it has managed to gain enough supporters to become the 8th largest political party in Switzerland—as measured by votes in the 2015 election—a rather strong indicator of just how little people like sitting through yet another PowerPoint presentation.

  104. Armadillo says:

    gain enough supporters to become the 8th largest political party in Switzerland

    Any political party in Australia today promising to reduce the tax on booze and smokes would win in a landslide. It’s beyond ridiculous.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    WA Liberal MP Phil Edman put interstate sex trips on expenses

    Paige Taylor
    WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    An hour ago December 18, 2019

    A former government whip used his $78,000-a-year electorate ­allowance to travel interstate to meet women for sex, take a female companion on a helicopter ride and to go to strip clubs, according to a report by the West Australian Corruption and Crime Commission.

    The report, tabled in WA parliament on Tuesday, made a finding of serious misconduct against former state Liberal MP Phil Edman and warned there was no way of telling how common the abuse of electorate allowances was among other MPs.

    Members of the WA parliament receive a total of $7.5m a year in electorate allowances on top of their salaries and that money was “unaccountable to the state”.

    “There are rules for its use, but no one checks to see if the rules are followed,” the report says.

    Mr Edman abused his electorate allowance between 2013 and 2017, including using it to pay speeding fines and expenses assoc­iated with his yacht, named Prime Minister, the report found.

    Mr Edman was the Barnett government’s whip in the WA upper house. He lost his seat at the 2017 election. He had been in parliament for nine years and ultim­ately collected an annual salary of $179,167, not including his electorate allowance and travel allowance. The report found Mr Edman used his electorate allowance to buy things for women he met on a website called Seeking Arrangement, which marketed itself as a matchmaker for attractive girls and “wealthy benefactors” who are “generous and successful”.

    During a four-month relationship with one of the women he met on that website, Mr Edman was found to have taken the woman — called Ms Z in the report — to Melbourne­. He claimed $2450.67 on his electorate allowance for ­accommodation, meals and taxis on that trip with Ms Z, the report found.

    “While a member of parliament, Mr Edman created opportunities for travel interstate to facilitate intimate relationships with various women,” the report states. “Mr Edman typically paid some or all expenses for the women accompanying him, ­including airfares, accommodation, food and entertainment.

    “On four travel occasions during his last term of office Mr Edman claimed these expenses as electorate allowance deductions.”

    From the Oz.

  106. Knuckle Dragger says:

    At the airport. Red eye to Yarrograd imminent.

    Was having a durry out the front before. Bloke rocks up to the designated area – early 30s, beard, dreadlocks AND man bun, pants hanging around his knees. Starts sucking on a rollie. Immediately and obviously identify bloke as a flog.

    Ten minutes later, an emaciated 40 something chick verrry slowly totters in and stands next to the bloke. She is pushing a wheelchair covered in baggage.

    She stands, wobbly, next to the bloke while he finishes his second smoke. When he’s done, he looks at her, takes the bags off the wheelchair. She makes her way around it and half sits, half falls into it.

    He hangs the bags off the handles, and pushes her off towards the taxi rank.

    In his defence, he carried an over the shoulder man bag.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    WA Liberal MP Phil Edman put interstate sex trips on expenses

    Paige Taylor
    WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    An hour ago December 18, 2019

    A former government whip used his $78,000-a-year electorate ­allowance to travel interstate to meet women for sex, take a female companion on a helicopter ride and to go to strip clubs, according to a report by the West Australian Corruption and Crime Commission.

    The report, tabled in WA parliament on Tuesday, made a finding of serious misconduct against former state Liberal MP Phil Edman and warned there was no way of telling how common the abuse of electorate allowances was among other MPs.

    Members of the WA parliament receive a total of $7.5m a year in electorate allowances on top of their salaries and that money was “unaccountable to the state”.

    “There are rules for its use, but no one checks to see if the rules are followed,” the report says.

    Mr Edman abused his electorate allowance between 2013 and 2017, including using it to pay speeding fines and expenses assoc­iated with his yacht, named Prime Minister, the report found.

    Mr Edman was the Barnett government’s whip in the WA upper house. He lost his seat at the 2017 election. He had been in parliament for nine years and ultim­ately collected an annual salary of $179,167, not including his electorate allowance and travel allowance. The report found Mr Edman used his electorate allowance to buy things for women he met on a website called Seeking Arrangement, which marketed itself as a matchmaker for attractive girls and “wealthy benefactors” who are “generous and successful”.

    During a four-month relationship with one of the women he met on that website, Mr Edman was found to have taken the woman — called Ms Z in the report — to Melbourne­. He claimed $2450.67 on his electorate allowance for ­accommodation, meals and taxis on that trip with Ms Z, the report found.

    “While a member of parliament, Mr Edman created opportunities for travel interstate to facilitate intimate relationships with various women,” the report states. “Mr Edman typically paid some or all expenses for the women accompanying him, ­including airfares, accommodation, food and entertainment.

    “On four travel occasions during his last term of office Mr Edman claimed these expenses as electorate allowance deductions.”

    From the Oz.

  108. Rex Mango says:

    Steve T, good vid, though do wonder why the number four guy couldn’t keep up.

    Here is nice video of the RA5 Vigilante which we almost bought instead of the F111 (the air force wanted it and Menzies overruled) – incidentally had one of these as an Airfix model as a kid and covered it in so many layers of paint, my older brothers and their mates could throw it round the backyard with impunity and it stuck together:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyIOyQniNe0

  109. Rex Mango says:

    Dillo, you are dead right an particularly if you put a girl like the one who just won in Finland up front. I am not a smoker, but would vote for a pro-smoking party purely out of seeing all the damage done to pubs since smoking was banned.

  110. Armadillo says:

    Gold license holders should also be given the lee-way to blow 0.8% 3 times a year (rather than 0.5%).

    Blokes who frequent their local are pretty careful. They have a few schooners and head home, guessing they are “under the limit”. A retired school teacher mate recently got done for 0.521. A 40 year clean driving record, but instant loss of licence. Upstanding citizen. Good bloke who should be enjoying retirement.

    Needless to say, I’ve been faking heart attacks and begging that he drive me to the hospital and stuff. He knows me to well to take the bait.

    The thing is, he is now reliant on his missus for transport. It’s a harsh punishment for a bloke having a couple of sips too many. Very harsh. And it’s punishment on their entire family. Collective punishment.

  111. Rex Mango says:

    Going to bed, here is nice shot of f18 going supersonic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQydRIxoAU0

  112. Armadillo says:

    I am not a smoker, but would vote for a pro-smoking party purely out of seeing all the damage done to pubs since smoking was banned.

    I don’t begrudge having to smoke outside. What annoys me is the non-smokers wandering about complaining that their fresh air is being compromised when they decide they want to get off their fat arses and wander outside with their glass of ice water. The latest push is to ban smoking on bowling greens. One club in town has already implemented it. Big red signs. I call it the “Naughty Corner”. Refused last time to obey. Smoked anyway.

  113. Armadillo says:

    Doc, when you arrive in Cuba, post me a cigar.

  114. Tom says:

    Peter Broelman jumps aboard the latest idiotic Get ScoMo meme.

  115. Tom says:

    David Rowe joints the Committee to Re-elect Trump.

  116. Tom says:

    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

  117. Tom says:

    Patrick Blower (London Daily Telegraph).

  118. struth says:

    Thank you Tom.
    I’m up can’t sleep.
    Haven’t had a drink for a couple of weeks and had 3 glasses of bloody red last night.
    It’s all it takes these days and I’m awake at three like clockwork.
    Then I read rather Juan’s wife likes to bat for both sides.
    Juan, you’ll work out later in life you were meant to have fun with those types before you find and marry a woman who respects you.

  119. 2dogs says:

    a party in parliament which identifies itself as standing for socially conservative values

    Bullshit. Have you actually read the LNP constitution?

  120. johanna says:

    Another day, another brown bushfire haze. I just had a look at the NSW RFS map, and it seems that a good portion of the Great Dividing Range is on fire. Looks like it will be a smoky Christmas for a lot of people.

    Mind you, I am not complaining, in that haze is not fire. There must be a lot of people waking up this morning wondering if their homes and properties will survive the day. Some of them have been waking up every day for a week or more with this worry. Poor buggers – it is hard to imagine what that must be like.

    The South Coast Christmas season, the mainstay of small business tourism operators, is kaput. The roads are closed, the area is wreathed in smoke, and the fire just keeps getting bigger.

    I have both brickbats and bouquets for the RFS communication strategy. First, bouquets for the maps and updates, although it must be said that they are just using apps and software developed by others years ago. And, it’s still buggy – my local page goes on the fritz and refuses to load a few times a day.

    Brickbats to their terminology, which is not only dishonest, but often self-contradictory. There are two levels of information boxes, and it is not uncommon for the top one to say that a fire is ‘under control’ while the next level one admits that it is ‘out of control.’

    Further, there is a weaselly one called ‘being controlled’ which means that it is out of control but they are on the ground trying to control it.

    Moving along, the Tallaganda fire, which is closest to me, has been described for days as being ‘under control.’ But, every time I look at the map, it is advancing towards Queanbeyan, closer and closer. It has moved probably 100km closer in the last week, while allegedly being ‘under control.’ If this continues, I will be spending New Year’s Eve in the Queanbeyan River or the Golf Course duck pond.

    It seems that the RFS is mostly trying to save Braidwood, which is caught between Tallaganda and the massive South Coast fire. I don’t envy them their choices, but I wish they would stop pretending that this fire is ‘under control.’ It isn’t.

    I don’t for a moment underestimate or criticise the people on the ground, who work in very difficult and unpleasant conditions. And I do hope that the nannies who tried to stop locals from giving them sandwiches and drinks because Health Regulations last time around keep their nasty traps shut.

    But, for a lot of people in NSW, it is going to be a smoky and anxious Christmas.

    My poll of (European) taxi drivers is so far 100% anti-greenie.

  121. Mater says:

    Mater’s Meteorology Challenge Update

    Predictions for High in Horsham for Fri 20 Dec 2019
    Current Time: D-2

    Weather.com.au:
    Weather.com.au, perhaps from being fed false intelligence earlier in the challenge, seems to have got all windy about making large error corrections and has gone again with 47 degrees.
    (Previously – 42, 38, 48, 47, …)

    YR App:
    YR has decided that it wants to retain a point of differentiation and has gone firm with its prediction of 45 degrees again.
    (Previously – 39, 42, 44, 45, …)

    WeatherZone:
    WeatherZone has stood firm on yesterday’s figure of 46 degrees and is giving it another run today. Yesterdays wobble in the apex of the Temperature Curve has been flattened out and looks to be more consistent. As you would expect as we get closer to the big event, the Error Band has started to tighten up…confidence is rising!
    (Previously – 47, 47, 45, 46, …)

    1500 hrs – 44 (Previously – 44.8, 44, 41.9, 43.9, …)
    1600 hrs – 44.5 (Previously – 45.3, 44.9, 42.7, 43.7, …)
    1700 hrs – 44.6 (Previously – 45.6, 45.6, 43.6, 44.6, …)
    1800 hrs – 44.3 (Previously – 44.7, 44.8, 43.1, 44.4, …)

    Error bar – 42.5->47 (Yesterday– 40->48)

  122. Farmer Gez says:

    A total fire ban in the Wimmera but not the Mallee today, go figure.
    On the Juan threesome chat. I know a bloke who had the same situation and used to boast of his luck. The wife left with another woman and he gets to see his kids every now and then.

  123. MatrixTransform says:

    knuckles brings the heat to Yarragrad.

    Depending on where you are in this fine city, I’d like to buy you a beer

  124. 132andBush says:

    Horsham yesterday: Predicted 38, Actual 36

    Today: Predicted 43

    TFB means not much harvesting today.
    First chance to do some overdue Christmas shopping in the thriving metropolis that is Horsham.

  125. Farmer Gez says:

    They’re not predicting strong winds for Horsham on Friday so I’m wondering how it will get to 46.
    The last time it hit that sort of number was 2002 and the wind was howling from the North West.

  126. Juan says:

    a party in parliament which identifies itself as standing for socially conservative values

    Bullshit. Have you actually read the LNP constitution?

    Yes, and there are the usual platitudes to family values in there; but how many voters read Page 7 of the LNP constitution?
    What really matters is how they present themselves to the electorate, and particularly to voters for whom Christian ‘family values’ are of top order importance. Such as:

    The Liberal National Party has scored highly in the election survey conducted by Christian advocacy group FamilyVoice Australia

  127. areff says:

    Lord save us from today’s dreadful, angry, unprecedented, record-setting heat.

  128. johanna says:

    areff, what is so annoying is that it has not been particularly hot in the areas being ravaged by bushfires – so the deflection is especially offensive. People are losing their homes, businesses are being destroyed, countless critters and plants are being transformed into piles of ash – and they witter on about bogus temperature records.

  129. Mater says:

    They’re not predicting strong winds for Horsham on Friday so I’m wondering how it will get to 46.

    Gez,
    They’re predicting the wind to start picking up at around 0900 and commence swinging around to become a northerly. Topping out at around 33 kph and staying like that between 1400-1800. Gusts up to 50 kph.

    Wind predicted to start to reducing in intensity from 1800 (down to 20 kph) and commence swinging back around to a more southerly orientation. Cloud starting to build around that time, too. Humidity at 73 by 0700 the next morning.

    Clearly they think the wind is what is going to give it that extra heat and hold it there, for a time.

  130. zyconoclast says:

    NRL trying to boost a moron’s pay.

    Mitchell’s Souths hopes fade as Walker agrees two-year extension

    …the Tigers…offered a mammoth $3.3 million deal.

    Mitchell, it seems, is doing whatever he can to not sign with the Tigers, to whom he was first linked in early November after rejecting the Roosters’ $2.4 million deal to stay at the two-time defending premiers.

    Meanwhile, the NRL is watching the Latrell melodrama with interest. It would take a dim view of the 22-year-old taking a significant pay cut to sign with Souths.

    Mitchell knocked back $800,000 a season at the Roosters, then $1.1 million at the Tigers.

    [NRL]Head office would be prepared to register a contract with another club for only marginally less than what has been offered by the Roosters, but the value of the deal would have to increase in the final years of the term to bring it back to his market value.

  131. zyconoclast says:

    You are an inadequate mother and you hate your baby.

    ‘It wasn’t long before I started missing the sense of adequacy work gave me’

    As far as parental leave goes, I was one of the lucky mothers. My workplace had generous paid provisions and flexibility around returning to work. Naturally, I couldn’t wait for the year “off”.

    Thrown into the deep end of early motherhood with no previous qualifications, I struggled to stay afloat, to feel competent, to regroup before we had to repeat the routine again. I counted the minutes till my partner returned from work so I could complain to him about the injustice, the pain, the boredom.

    Two things about being a mother made me realise how important work was for my wellbeing. One was the repetitive, often boring tasks that filled my every day. I felt incompetent at the best of times and desperate and angry often.

    I had certainly been guilty of preserving this narrative, and I initially held myself accountable to that false standard. I was also terrified of being seen as ungrateful. This baby had not come easy to me, and now that she was here, how could work be what I craved for?

    I had one full year of parental leave and I knew very early that it wasn’t going to work. I couldn’t go back to my job, because someone had been contracted to fill my position.

    As soon as my daughter was old enough to be accepted into childcare (at six months), I found a childcare centre that had openings and a co-working space adjacent. And I went and sat at a desk with a laptop in front of me.

    The few times when I sat down to write, … The sense of knowing what to do made me giddy. The opportunity to contribute was a gift.

    Sometimes when I talk about how much I crave to work, to create, I get the “they’re only this age once, enjoy it” reply. It’s true, my child is this age only once. And so am I.

  132. Juan says:

    In a positive move, Pope Francis has abolished ‘pontifical secrecy’ for sex abuse investigations.

    From Scicluna: “Transparency is being implemented at the highest levels”:

    Certain jurisdiction would have easily quoted the pontifical secret because that was the state of the law, in order to say that they could not, and that they were not, authorized to share information with either state authorities or the victims. Now that impediment, we might call it that way, has been lifted, and the pontifical secret is no more an excuse. However, the law goes further: it actually says, as also does Vos estis lux mundi, that information is of the essence if we really want to work for justice. And so, the freedom of information to statutory authorities and to victims is something that is being facilitated by this new law.

  133. Mater says:

    Lord save us from today’s dreadful, angry, unprecedented, record-setting heat.

    Right now, Opticast has Melbourne at a max of only 37.7 degrees. Let’s see how it goes.

  134. OldOzzie says:

    Steve trickler
    #3265079, posted on December 18, 2019 at 1:20 am
    Rex Mango. G’day.

    Iconic footage.

    Thanks Steve Great Vid – looked like a Dambusters Raid as they flew down to the lake

  135. zyconoclast says:

    A winning ticket

    After failing to poll strongly enough to qualify for Thursday’s Democratic presidential primary debate, Sen. Cory Booker is now calling for the Democratic National Committee to loosen its criteria for inclusion in the January and February debates.

    Last week, another candidate who can’t get on the debate stage, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary and San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, hosted a town hall in Iowa to lecture voters about how their nearly all-white state has disproportionate influence in determining the nominee.

  136. OldOzzie says:

    Thanks Tom

    Tina Norton today – Hopefully happens

  137. OldOzzie says:

    Real Clear Investigations – IG Report Undercuts Credibility of Impeachment Manager Nadler

    By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
    December 16, 2019; 5:20 PM Eastern

    Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler, the House Judiciary Committee chairman who has drawn up articles of impeachment accusing President Trump of abusing his power, last year falsely accused a Trump campaign aide of being a Russian spy who helped Moscow interfere in the 2016 election — an accusation the Justice Department’s watchdog declared unfounded in his newly released report.

    Nadler made the accusation in a letter distributed on Capitol Hill in early 2018. In the same document, he also defended the FBI for obtaining a highly invasive FISA warrant to wiretap the Trump aide, Carter Page. The watchdog now concludes that this warrant, renewed three times, was obtained under false pretenses.

    The Democratic leader — who’s expected to argue the impeachment case before the Senate next month — dismissed as “a conspiracy theory” the president’s characterization of the FBI spying as an “abuse” of the government’s surveillance powers.

    Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz found the FBI did in fact abuse its authority, including withholding exculpatory evidence from its spy warrant on Page and subsequent renewals — including one in which the evidence was falsified by an FBI lawyer whom Horowitz referred for criminal investigation.

    Capitol Hill sources say the inspector general’s scathing report uncovering FBI misconduct undercuts Nadler’s credibility as a prosecutor for the impeachment case.

  138. zyconoclast says:

    US Supreme Court Won’t Hear Case On Ban Against Homeless Sleeping In Public Spaces

    The Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear an appeal in a case originating from Boise, Idaho, that would have made it a crime to camp and sleep in public spaces.

    The decision to let a ruling from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals stand is a setback for states and local governments in much of the West that are grappling with widespread homelessness by designing laws to regulate makeshift encampments on sidewalks and parks.

  139. areff says:

    Johanna: For those interested in bushfire management — an arcane interest, admittedly, as screaming ‘dreadful heat’ and ‘demon coal’ is easier and much more fun — the so-called Esplin Report into the fires that ravaged the High Country 02-03 offers an unintended lesson in the politics of fire.

    Basically, a Greens-infested bureaucracy doesn’t want widespread prophylactic burning, yet they are obliged to conede you don’t get big fires without big fuel. How to square that circle? Go the full Sir Humphrey and craft a document that is, basically, ‘on the one hand and on the other hand’. Lard it with academic speculation about changes in vegetation after fire, but note with doom-laden undertones that we just don’t know enough to strike a match.

    Factor in things like avian breeding seasons, south slope old growth hollows for timid bushland creatures, the extinction of tree-ripping mega-kangaroos, quote Howarth (but only the bits that fit) and presto, you have a Woodstock of chin-strokers that, as intended all along, concludes there are only ten or so days a year (on average and with all things considered in the fullness of time at the end of the day and with a heavy salting of caveats) when you can do a preventive spring/autumn burn.

    And of course, even those plans need lotsa ecological surveys and projections (conducted, of course, by green-brained academics) which delay things even further.

    So Bruce Esplin brought out this report , which concluded hazard reduction can only be done during the briefest window, effectively putting active burning in the too-hard basket. Then everyone patted themselves on the back and went home. Look at the fire-frequency chart for Omeo. It says it all.

    What the report doesn’t say is that, if you don’t burn, when you eventually do, the fuel loads are so high the flames are apt to get out of control. Then the green-minded simper that burning doesn’t work and the entire process of putting spurious evidence at the service of flawed policy repeats, except louder.

    A couple of years after Esplin gave green nitwits what they wanted, Black Saturday and 173 people expire in the most horrible ways you can imagine.

    http://royalcommission.vic.gov.au/getdoc/e9af877b-fae7-4dd1-99dc-d696fa2c8c04/INF.018.002.0001.pdf

  140. OldOzzie says:

    The Greatness Agenda
    After the British Elections: Making the Anglosphere Great Again

    In a word, the hackneyed nonsense of recent decades about the post-Reagan-Thatcher decline of the Anglo-Saxons—beloved of the Chinese, French, Russians, Arabs, and Iranians—is shown, yet again in modern history to be bunk.

    The greatest significance in last week’s decisive and seminal British election is the victory it contains for the solidarity of the English-speaking peoples and the strength, coherence, and legitimacy of what Europeans frequently refer to as the Anglo-Saxons.

    Of course, broadly, the English-speaking advanced democracies have much in common with Western Europe, and to a slightly reduced degree with Eastern Europe and westernized nations in other regions, most conspicuously Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, South Africa, the Emirates, and parts of Latin America.

    But the substantial detachment of the United Kingdom from an integrated Europe so it may retain the primacy of the political institutions and the legal system it has developed over many centuries, and align itself, implicitly, more closely to its senior Commonwealth associates, Canada and Australia, as well as to its sometime senior partner in the modern world’s greatest crises, the United States, is a geostrategic development of the first importance.

  141. Rex Mango says:

    Peter Van Onselen on ABC RN providing expert political analysis, just stated that Morrison being on holidays at moment is no different to Christine Nixon going to dinner during Black Saturday bushfires. This was after he also made a snide remark about Abbott ‘trying to fight them’.

  142. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:
  143. zyconoclast says:

    I never knew Time magazine has an Entertainer of the year,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=_SWrxPRAho4&feature=emb_logo

  144. OldOzzie says:

    areff
    #3265151, posted on December 18, 2019 at 7:52 am

    Basically, a Greens-infested bureaucracy doesn’t want widespread prophylactic burning, yet they are obliged to conede you don’t get big fires without big fuel. How to square that circle? Go the full Sir Humphrey and craft a document that is, basically, ‘on the one hand and on the other hand’. Lard it with academic speculation about changes in vegetation after fire, but note with doom-laden undertones that we just don’t know enough to strike a match.

    Factor in things like avian breeding seasons, south slope old growth hollows for timid bushland creatures, the extinction of tree-ripping mega-kangaroos, quote Howarth (but only the bits that fit) and presto, you have a Woodstock of chin-strokers that, as intended all along, concludes there are only ten or so days a year (on average and with all things considered in the fullness of time at the end of the day and with a heavy salting of caveats) when you can do a preventive spring/autumn burn.

    I was 4WD in Vic High Country in Feb 03 – the Bush Fires were ferocious – was 4WD again in VIC High Country in 07 and 09 – and the devastation of the Alpine Countryside was such that no animals would have survived the ferocity of the Blaze

    From memory, in the 07 Fires we had been running before the Fires trying to reach a safe area – we stopped at a Vic High Country Stockman’s Hut which had a large cleared area at top of ridge – could not see the sun and were joined by a mob of brumbies seeking shelter from the fires

    Past bushfires
    A chronology of major bushfires in Victoria from 2013 back to 1851

  145. zyconoclast says:

    Justin Trudeau has told four of his cabinet ministers in his mandate letters to them that they are tasked with regulating online hate speech.

    Trudeau told the new heritage minister that he’s to “create new regulations for social media platforms, starting with a strong requirement that all platforms remove illegal content, including hate speech, within 24 hours or face significant penalties.” Except Trudeau doesn’t include a definition of “hate speech,” nor does he direct the heritage minister to come up with a definition.

  146. Overburdened says:

    Back from the dawn swim prior to packing up and pissing off out of here.

    The sweep and power of the surf today and yesterday on Broadbeach is made to kill tourists.

    The best view of the goldy is in the rear view mirror as you’re leaving town.

    Simon Overland has amazed with his rapid promotions and post police appointment.

    Further proof if needed that being a slippery yes man pays off.

  147. Rex Mango says:

    Zycon, if the USN is going to name a ship after Harvey Milk, appropriate that it is an oiler. Better than a submarine anyway. No doubt the poms will soon have the HMS Julian Clary.

  148. johanna says:

    areff, Quandrant has done sterling service in documenting the abbatoir that is contemporary bushfire policy.

    The MSM is still running with stories of ‘brave’ volunteers saving the odd koala or possum (spit!) while studiously ignoring the big picture.

    When I look at my local map, we have huge areas of eucalyptus forests which are designated parks, now on fire. Many of them were nominated by that self-satisfied urbanite, Bob Carr. By the time this episode is over, which won’t be until at least February, uncountable plants and critters that TheirABC and the rest croon about will have been incinerated. If these areas had been opened to private ownership, at least there would be a chance for them – provided the owners were allowed to clear the land, instead of leaving it to the next firestorm.

    One of the advantages of living in Queanbeyan, rather than Canberra, is that a lot of the locals are, or are descended from, country people and ex Snowy Scheme workers. They have a very different perspective from the Canberra luvvies, mostly imported, and with multiple degrees but not a lick of common sense.

  149. cohenite says:

    Rex Mango
    #3265014, posted on December 17, 2019 at 11:47 pm
    Just watched Last Jedi on ch9. Geez Disney has ruined that franchise. Was complete remake of Empire Strikes Back (best film in the series) with SJW’s taking over. Lot of racial tropes too, like smart Asian females etc, but the good sort of racism. Also the Empire has now become an equal opportunity employer. Everything was very PC, except for the truly evil people were all white males.

    It is pervasive; the remake of Watchmen on Fox is pathetic. Every villain is a non-black; the blacks are universally good. Even Dr Manhattan turns himself into a big black and blue guy; but even that is not sufficient as the female heroine, a black lady, has to become Dr Manhattan after he dies to expunge the sins of all men, black and white. FMD. A fortune was spent on this series, it looked great but it was dead between the eyes.

  150. Tailgunner says:

    knuckles brings the heat to Yarragrad.

    Depending on where you are in this fine city, I’d like to buy you a beer

    Yeh,fkn oath!
    Christmas Cat meet up?

  151. Overburdened says:

    Zyco

    A bucket arsed fatty with no shame or sense of personal embarrassment that you put on display in that vid.

    And today was the day of trying to be nice.

  152. OldOzzie says:

    The Blues at St. James Comey’s Infirmary
    COMMENTARY

    When your best explanation for humiliating failures is that you were incompetent, not criminal, you are in trouble. When your defense is that underlings are to blame, you can expect them to bite back. That’s the situation facing James Comey, former FBI director. His current story matches Richard Nixon’s lame admission: “mistakes were made.”

    Not that Comey made those mistakes himself, mind you. Mere sloppiness by others, he says. That’s his new story. His old one was that the FBI did everything by the book and that his critics were dishonest partisan hacks. His self-righteous stance went down the garbage disposal last week when Inspector General Michael Horowitz issued his devastating report and then told a Senate committee that Comey was wrong when he said the report vindicated him and the bureau.

    Comey is still drifting down that river in Egypt, denying he failed in his basic duties. Yet he signed surveillance warrants as “truthful and verified” when he knew (or should have known) they were neither. He and senior officials at the Department of Justice used the same misinformation four times to spy on Carter Page, claiming, without evidence, that Page might be a Russian agent.

    Caught in these lies, Comey is reluctantly admitting that he relied on the FBI’s standard procedures for gaining warrants and that underlings may have been careless. They may well have been, but so was Comey. Moreover, it was the director himself who gutted the safeguards designed to prevent overzealous agents from deceiving the court.

  153. johanna says:

    Comey and senior VicPol – have they ever been seen in the same room?

  154. OldOzzie says:

    Democrats repeat failed history with mad dash to impeach Donald Trump

    BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 12/17/19 12:00 PM EST
    THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

    “Let them impeach and be damned.” Those words could have easily come from Donald Trump, as the House moves this week to impeach him. They were, however, the words of another president who not only shares some striking similarities to Trump but who went through an impeachment with chilling parallels to the current proceedings. The impeachment of Trump is not just history repeating itself but repeating itself with a vengeance.

    The closest of the three prior presidential impeachment cases to the House effort today is the 1868 impeachment of Andrew Johnson. This is certainly not a comparison that Democrats should relish. The Johnson case has long been widely regarded as the very prototype of an abusive impeachment. As in the case of Trump, calls to impeach Johnson began almost as soon as he took office. A southerner who ascended to power after the Civil War as a result of the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, Johnson was called the “accidental president” and his legitimacy was never accepted by critics. Representative John Farnsworth of Illinois called Johnson an “ungrateful, despicable, besotted, traitorous man.”

  155. Rex Mango says:

    ABC RN Breakfast going full retard about this heat wave. Dr Liz Hannah from ANU on at the moment calling for public awareness campaign re health effects of heat and saying it kills 3,000/yr in Aust. Going to brave it and go to work.

  156. Juan says:

    vile invasion of privacy
    ATO reveals fresh crackdown on ‘lifestyle assets’ like yachts, fine art and horses
    includes cars above $65k

    Marine vessels: $100,000 is pretty much a catch-all too.

  157. areff says:

    Christine “Don’t Go Easy on the Gravy” Nixon confronts the RC at around 9-ish. A preview of her testimony.

  158. OldOzzie says:

    The Senate Needs to Stop Sniveling

    If there is going to be a trial, let’s have a real trial to clear Trump’s name and shine a light on the absolute corruption and abuse of power that has taken place. To do anything less will be to the Senate’s shame.

    The Hill reported this week that should the House Democrats be foolish enough (they were) to pass the two articles of impeachment (which summarized are We hate Trump and We’re super mad Trump won in 2016) Senate Republicans will drag their feet on calling witnesses for a potential Senate trial.

    While I realize the default position of most Republican Senators is not one of political or moral courage, I would encourage them to dig deep and see if for once they might be able to muster some. Their excuses for not wanting to call witnesses range from it “wouldn’t be popular” to it “might drag this on.” Well boo-hoo. Cry me a river. Little Linds of South Carolina even said his perfect Senate trial would not include any witnesses at all.

    That’s not going to work for me. While I understand John McCain’s buddy is probably a wee-tad nervous about more coming to light regarding McCain’s role in this absurdity, and perhaps even his for that matter, let’s try to think about the American people for once, shall we?

    Some of us might argue that one of the things that have destabilized our Republic over the past three years is the lack of adults in Congress willing to put an end to the madness. Anyone with a few brain cells and common sense—which I grant, in Congress may be commodities in short supply—knew back in the spring of 2017 that all this talk of “Russian collusion” was a crock, a fairytale, a conspiracy theory that had no merit.

  159. OldOzzie says:

    CNN Spends Five Days On Thanos Meme While Ignoring The Afghan Papers

    The Marvel Cinematic Universe made its way to CNN last week. In a meme tweeted out by the Trump campaign, the character Thanos with the face of Donald Trump snaps his fingers and makes Democratic House leadership wisp away in black ashes. The apples and bananas (more bananas) network was aghast, devoting segment after segment to Thanos.

    Meanwhile, a report was released that showed the federal government has been lying for decades about the Afghanistan War, but that didn’t get much coverage at all.

  160. Leigh Lowe says:

    Christine “Don’t Go Easy on the Gravy” Nixon confronts the RC at around 9-ish.

    Commission staff putting away loose objects, lest they be caught up in Christine’s gravitational field.
    Along with no diary and no memory I predict large amounts of “shocked and disappointed”.

  161. areff says:

    I predict large amounts of “shocked and disappointed”.

    Plus a dash of post-dated concern and empathy for a female lawyer in a testosterone-poisoned criminal and law-enforcement environment. Bet on it.

  162. OldOzzie says:

    Juan
    #3265174, posted on December 18, 2019 at 8:26 am
    vile invasion of privacy
    ATO reveals fresh crackdown on ‘lifestyle assets’ like yachts, fine art and horses
    includes cars above $65k

    Marine vessels: $100,000 is pretty much a catch-all too.

    From the Comments on the above article

    hadesandchaos
    27 minutes ago
    $65000 for a vehicle? SUVs and pickups are hitting this mark. Their going to get a lot of vehicles flagged. Classic cars can hit this mark. I guess they’ll have to filter brands.

  163. Leigh Lowe says:

    Plus a dash of post-dated concern and empathy for a female lawyer in a testosterone-poisoned criminal and law-enforcement environment. Bet on it.

    And, of course, Counsel Assisting needs to be careful he doesn’t wear a blue tie, look at his watch or make the slightest suggestion that she might be a fat, lying bint.

  164. Megan says:

    Going to brave it and go to work.

    I’m braving the bus to the Big Bad City for a medical appointment. It is filled with other hardy souls for whom the unprecedented Yarragrad heat does not seem to be a deterrent.

  165. duncanm says:

    Local federal member just sent a flyer out in the post with a survey on it, asking what I think is important.

    – climate was in there, of course
    – 8/10 issues were state or local responsibility (health, education, roads, cost of housing etc)
    – the last couple were actually federal responsibilities (economy, borders).

    Rather than fill it out as requested – I wrote on it asking why they were concerning themselves with state matters.

  166. struth says:

    The ATO is also likely to look into self-managed super funds suspected of buying lifestyle assets for personal use by the trustee or beneficiaries.

    The tax office will be requesting details on assets at or above the below thresholds.

    • Marine vessels: $100,000

    • Motor vehicles: $65,000

    • Thoroughbred horses: $65,000

    • Fine art: $100,000 per item

    • Aircraft: $150,000

    If you suspect you’ve made a mistake with your tax obligations, you are encouraged to speak with your tax agent or make a voluntary disclosure to the ATO, which means you will likely receive a reduction in the administrative penalties and interest charges.

    For more information visit the ATO website.

    Ve vant to know vy you have money to buy zese things/

    You own a car und a boat, und you expect us to believe you did zat legally in Australia, while still being able to pay for electricity?

  167. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    And, of course, Counsel Assisting needs to be careful he d

    Have a feeling they light put his assistant on the case, who is a womyn. If she was a little more forceful and animated in her questioning, I would not mind so much.

  168. 2dogs says:

    Yes, and there are the usual platitudes to family values

    This is conflating two different things. Wanting to preserve the family as a social institution has little to do with restricting the sex industry. Sure, if a married man uses such services, it might lead to divorce, but so do a lot of other things.

    And all that survey implies is, also, that the LNP is pro-family-as-an-institution. Nothing about the sex industry.

    Let’s face it, you are trying to apply Alinski’s rule #4 here, and got caught out because the “enemy”‘s rule book doesn’t say what you are trying to imply it says.

  169. OldOzzie says:

    President Trump Sends Nancy Pelosi a Letter Demanding She Stop the Impeachment Process

    Even worse than offending the Founding Fathers, you are offending Americans of faith by continually saying “I pray for the President,” when you know this statement is not true, unless it is meant in a negative sense. It is a terrible thing you are doing , but you will have to live with it, not I!

    Everyone, you included, knows what is really happening. Your chosen candidate lost the election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227), and you and your party have never recovered from this defeat. You have developed a full-fledged case of what many in the media call Trump Derangement Syndrome and sadly, you will never get over it! You are unwilling and unable to accept the verdict issued at the ballot box during the great Election of 2016. So you have spent three straight years attempting to overturn the will of the American people and nullify their votes. You view democracy as your enemy!

    There is nothing I would rather do than stop referring to your party as the Do-Nothing Democrats. Unfortunately , I don ‘ t know that you will ever give me a chance to do so.

    After three years of unfair and unwarranted investigations, 45 million dollars spent, 18 angry Democrat prosecutors, the entire force of the FBI, headed by leadership now proven to be totally incompetent and corrupt, you have found NOTHING! Few people in high position could have endured or passed this test. You do not know, nor do you care, the great damage and hurt you have inflicted upon wonderful and loving members of my family. You conducted a fake investigation upon the democratically elected President of the United States, and you are doing it yet again.

    More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials .

  170. Black Ball says:

    Good morning all.
    Yes all this talk of heatwaves as a health issue does ring true for me. Makes one want to spend all day in a pub drinking beer and eating parmas.
    In all seriousness however, the climate porn needs to stop. I am certain that people know how to look after themselves during hot weather. Was forecast for 41 here yesterday, maxed at 37. Irresponsible climateers should be thrown into White Mountain to appease their Gaia

  171. johanna says:

    As a New South Welshperson (for the most) who wrote her Master’s thesis on the history of corruption in this fair State – I am miffed.

    Those dadnagned Viccos are trying to take the crown. First the Grand Prix, now this.

    Splutter, splutter.

    Still, don’t get too comfortable. We are playing a long game here. And, you have a long way to go before you can beat the Chief Magistrate (Murray Farquar) being sent down the steps.

  172. stackja says:

    Daily Telegraph reports NZ Sir Ron B charged with possession of naughty things on his computer.

  173. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Dr Liz Hannah from ANU on at the moment calling for public awareness campaign re health effects of heat and saying it kills 3,000/yr in Aust.

    Maybe we could invent something that would cool people’s houses. We can call it “air conditioning” and power it with cheap electricity. Oh wait.

  174. johanna says:

    Black Ball, the authorities are warning us to drink plenty of fluids and stay out out of direct sun – just in case anyone was born yesterday and is able to comprehend English.

  175. dover_beach says:

    The forecast down here on the Mornington Peninsula is high 20s today and friday. Suffer in ya jocks fellas and kittehs.

  176. Diogenes says:

    If these areas had been opened to private ownership, at least there would be a chance for them – provided the owners were allowed to clear the land, instead of leaving it to the next firestorm.

    A big proviso !

    One of Mrs D’s customers has 44 acres which backs onto a state forest that caught fire (and was extinguished) a few weeks ago. Her land was rezoned ‘conservation’ in 1995, and other than pruning the garden in the ‘house garden’, which is very carefully defined , she is not permitted to do anything that would help fireproof her property.
    She is forbidden from ;
    chopping down or in any other way touching any tree or plant
    removing fallen branches and twigs
    raking up leaves and small twigs
    keeping cats, sheep , goats , horses, cows, pigs, deer or exotic species such as llama/alpaca etc, and may only 2 chickens in the ‘house yard’

    She cannot get to some of the fences because of the jungle that has grown up to prevent feral goats/deer/pigs from coming onto her property (these animals can make there way in)

    There is only really awful road in and out (only 2km long but windy with deep ditches) that regularly has trees fall, or lose limbs that close the road and the trees form a canopy over the road and the grass on the verge is at least 4′ high. She is 85 years old and is resigned to dying with her dogs come the next fire.

  177. feelthebern says:

    Worth the 42 mins.
    Jimmy Dore breaks down the Jim Comey interview on Fox.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc2l68KHhhc

  178. widespread prophylactic burning

    Ah. I get it. It is not the burning of condoms.

    It is what is happening now.

    if ya don’t burn it, nature will.

  179. struth says:

    Dr Liz Hannah from ANU on at the moment calling for public awareness campaign re health effects of heat and saying it kills 3,000/yr in Aust.

    She’s another left wing nurse made good in knowing SFA about the Climate and being paid for it

    Notice the year she studies the climate from

  180. OldOzzie says:

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Tim Flannery

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of former state fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires across the nation and demanding an immediat­e end to the burning of fossil fuels.

    The Australian has confirmed Emergency Leaders for Clima­te Action — 29 ex-fire chiefs led by former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner Greg Mullins — is funded by Professor Flannery’s crowd-funded Climate Council as an official “project”.

    Mr Mullins was joined by five other former state and territory fire chiefs on Tuesday in pledging to convene a national summit of industry experts early next year to find a long-term solution to bushfires savaging Australia’s east and west coasts.

    A source close to the Climate Council claimed it was “largely a vehicle for Tim Flannery”. He added, however, that the decision of fire chiefs to accept support as a Climate Council “project” was significant and could not be underestimated because­ of their authority in the community as experienced firefighters who had witnessed worsening weather conditions.

    “These fire chiefs are not muppets, they are hardly activists,” he said. “They’ve made a deliberat­e decision to take a stand because they see conditions are getting serious.”

    Mr Mullins said the former fire chiefs were prepared to “go it alone” with a national bushfire summit, claiming the Prime Minister had offered “no moral leadership” on climate change.

    The former NSW fire chief, who is also a councillor with Professo­r Flannery’s group, said he hoped Mr Morrison and state leaders would attend the summit.

    Climate writer and scientist Professor Flannery, Australian of the Year in 2007, has sparked past criticism that he is an alarmist for urging that coal-fired power stations­ be shut down and for suggesting Perth could become the nation’s “first ghost town” based on its scarce water supply.

    The chief executive of his Climate Council is Amanda McKenzie, a board member of Labor’s Whitlam Institute and founder of the Australian Youth Climate Coalitio­n, the activist group that has sponsored climate change protests by schoolchildren in Canberra and other capital cities.

    Mr Mullins blasted Canberra for a “leadership vacuum” on bushfires raging across the nation that he said were linked to climate change. He said the Morrison government had offered “no moral leadership” by opposing tougher carbon emissions standards at the Madrid climate conference.

    “The facts are that Australia is burning while we turn a blind eye to the driving force, which is climate­ change and a warming planet,” Mr Mullins said at a news conference called to confirm that a national summit would be convened after the current bushfire season ended in March or April.

    Emergency Leaders was formed in April with Climate Council support, after the Prime Minister rebuffed Mr Mullins­’s request for a meeting on fighting bushfires that would also consider the impact of climate change. Mr Morrison instead referre­d Mr Mullins to Water Resources­ Minister David Littleproud.

    The Climate Council was formed in 2013 by Professor Flannery as a crowd-funded climate change communications body after the Abbott government abolished Labor’s taxpayer-funded Climate Commission that he had headed since its creation in 2008.

    The Climate Council seeks tax-deductible donations to help the group’s “author­it­ative, expert advice­ to the public on climate change, energy solutions and international action, based on the most up-to-date ­science”.

    Mr Mullins said on Tuesday it was “no good saying we’re only a small emitter” of carbon dioxide pollutio­n and it was “simply not true” when Australia ranked 17th in the world, and was the world’s No 5 emitter when coal exports were taken into account.

    West Australian Naomi Brown, former chief of the Australasian Fire and Emergency Services Authority, said Emergency Leaders for Climate, which had grown this year from 23 to 29 ex-fire chiefs, wanted to “draw attention to an appalling problem”.

    She said Australia would have worse scorching summers and uncontrollable fires unless action was taken now to tackle climate change. “This is climate change, we are seeing it,” Ms Brown said.

    Urging the Morrison government to set the example for others worldwide, she said: “We can’t keep digging up fossil fuels and shipping it out.”

    Major General Peter Dunn, retired­ commissioner of the ACT Emergency Services Authority, said: “We have to stop burning fossil­ fuels. This is what is inducing climate change. This is not specul­ation. This is science. Just read what the CSIRO is saying.”

    Queensland former fire and emergency services chief Lee Johnson said firefighters were seeing the effects of climate change “firsthand” as they battled blazes.

    Professor Flannery said he had no comment about his council’s link to Emergency Leaders.

    Brad Norington
    Associate Editor

  181. stackja says:

    1950s summer in a Sydney northern suburb, tar seeping through gravel road and creating bubbles that had to be burst and being careful not to get tar on shoes.

  182. cohenite says:

    I hate alarmists, to a man and woman and pol tot they are creeps. Flannery would be peak alarmist:

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Tim Flannery
    Brad Norington The Australian December 18, 2019

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of former state fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires across the nation and demanding an immediat­e end to the burning of fossil fuels.
    The Australian has confirmed Emergency Leaders for Clima­te Action — 29 ex-fire chiefs led by former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner Greg Mullins — is funded by Professor Flannery’s crowd-funded Climate Council as an official “project”.
    Mr Mullins was joined by five other former state and territory fire chiefs on Tuesday in pledging to convene a national summit of industry experts early next year to find a long-term solution to bushfires savaging Australia’s east and west coasts.
    A source close to the Climate Council claimed it was “largely a vehicle for Tim Flannery”. He added, however, that the decision of fire chiefs to accept support as a Climate Council “project” was significant and could not be underestimated because­ of their authority in the community as experienced firefighters who had witnessed worsening weather conditions.
    “These fire chiefs are not muppets, they are hardly activists,” he said. “They’ve made a deliberat­e decision to take a stand because they see conditions are getting serious.”
    Mr Mullins said the former fire chiefs were prepared to “go it alone” with a national bushfire summit, claiming the Prime Minister had offered “no moral leadership” on climate change.
    The former NSW fire chief, who is also a councillor with Professo­r Flannery’s group, said he hoped Mr Morrison and state leaders would attend the summit…..

    Not activists my arse.

  183. johanna says:

    Diogenes, I know what you mean.

    I have written here before about friends who are not allowed to collect firewood on their own property, which abuts a park of eucalyptus just waiting to go up.

    They have now sold it to gormless tree-changers.

  184. cohenite says:

    I hate alarmists, to a man and woman and pol tot they are creeps. Flannery would be peak alarmist:

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Tim Flannery
    Brad Norington The Australian December 18, 2019

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of former state fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires across the nation and demanding an immediat­e end to the burning of fossil fuels.
    The Australian has confirmed Emergency Leaders for Clima­te Action — 29 ex-fire chiefs led by former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner Greg Mullins — is funded by Professor Flannery’s crowd-funded Climate Council as an official “project”.
    Mr Mullins was joined by five other former state and territory fire chiefs on Tuesday in pledging to convene a national summit of industry experts early next year to find a long-term solution to bushfires savaging Australia’s east and west coasts.
    A source close to the Climate Council claimed it was “largely a vehicle for Tim Flannery”. He added, however, that the decision of fire chiefs to accept support as a Climate Council “project” was significant and could not be underestimated because­ of their authority in the community as experienced firefighters who had witnessed worsening weather conditions.
    “These fire chiefs are not muppets, they are hardly activists,” he said. “They’ve made a deliberat­e decision to take a stand because they see conditions are getting serious.”
    Mr Mullins said the former fire chiefs were prepared to “go it alone” with a national bushfire summit, claiming the Prime Minister had offered “no moral leadership” on climate change.
    The former NSW fire chief, who is also a councillor with Professo­r Flannery’s group, said he hoped Mr Morrison and state leaders would attend the summit…..

    Not activists my backside.

  185. OldOzzie says:

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Tim Flannery

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of former state fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires across the nation and demanding an immediat­e end to the burning of fossil fuels.

    The Australian has confirmed Emergency Leaders for Clima­te Action — 29 ex-fire chiefs led by former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner Greg Mullins — is funded by Professor Flannery’s crowd-funded Climate Council as an official “project”.

    Mr Mullins was joined by five other former state and territory fire chiefs on Tuesday in pledging to convene a national summit of industry experts early next year to find a long-term solution to bushfires savaging Australia’s east and west coasts.

    A source close to the Climate Council claimed it was “largely a vehicle for Tim Flannery”. He added, however, that the decision of fire chiefs to accept support as a Climate Council “project” was significant and could not be underestimated because­ of their authority in the community as experienced firefighters who had witnessed worsening weather conditions.

    “These fire chiefs are not muppets, they are hardly activists,” he said. “They’ve made a deliberat­e decision to take a stand because they see conditions are getting serious.”

    Mr Mullins said the former fire chiefs were prepared to “go it alone” with a national bushfire summit, claiming the Prime Minister had offered “no moral leadership” on climate change.

    The former NSW fire chief, who is also a councillor with Professo­r Flannery’s group, said he hoped Mr Morrison and state leaders would attend the summit.

    Climate writer and scientist Professor Flannery, Australian of the Year in 2007, has sparked past criticism that he is an alarmist for urging that coal-fired power stations­ be shut down and for suggesting Perth could become the nation’s “first ghost town” based on its scarce water supply.

    The chief executive of his Climate Council is Amanda McKenzie, a board member of Labor’s Whitlam Institute and founder of the Australian Youth Climate Coalitio­n, the activist group that has sponsored climate change protests by schoolchildren in Canberra and other capital cities.

    Mr Mullins blasted Canberra for a “leadership vacuum” on bushfires raging across the nation that he said were linked to climate change. He said the Morrison government had offered “no moral leadership” by opposing tougher carbon emissions standards at the Madrid climate conference.

    “The facts are that Australia is burning while we turn a blind eye to the driving force, which is climate­ change and a warming planet,” Mr Mullins said at a news conference called to confirm that a national summit would be convened after the current bushfire season ended in March or April.

    Emergency Leaders was formed in April with Climate Council support, after the Prime Minister rebuffed Mr Mullins­’s request for a meeting on fighting bushfires that would also consider the impact of climate change. Mr Morrison instead referre­d Mr Mullins to Water Resources­ Minister David Littleproud.

    The Climate Council was formed in 2013 by Professor Flannery as a crowd-funded climate change communications body after the Abbott government abolished Labor’s taxpayer-funded Climate Commission that he had headed since its creation in 2008.

    The Climate Council seeks tax-deductible donations to help the group’s “author­it­ative, expert advice­ to the public on climate change, energy solutions and international action, based on the most up-to-date ­science”.

    Mr Mullins said on Tuesday it was “no good saying we’re only a small emitter” of carbon dioxide pollutio­n and it was “simply not true” when Australia ranked 17th in the world, and was the world’s No 5 emitter when coal exports were taken into account.

    West Australian Naomi Brown, former chief of the Australasian Fire and Emergency Services Authority, said Emergency Leaders for Climate, which had grown this year from 23 to 29 ex-fire chiefs, wanted to “draw attention to an appalling problem”.

    She said Australia would have worse scorching summers and uncontrollable fires unless action was taken now to tackle climate change. “This is climate change, we are seeing it,” Ms Brown said.

    Urging the Morrison government to set the example for others worldwide, she said: “We can’t keep digging up fossil fuels and shipping it out.”

    Major General Peter Dunn, retired­ commissioner of the ACT Emergency Services Authority, said: “We have to stop burning fossil­ fuels. This is what is inducing climate change. This is not specul­ation. This is science. Just read what the CSIRO is saying.”

    Queensland former fire and emergency services chief Lee Johnson said firefighters were seeing the effects of climate change “firsthand” as they battled blazes.

    Professor Flannery said he had no comment about his council’s link to Emergency Leaders.

  186. Black Ball says:

    Black Ball, the authorities are warning us to drink plenty of water and stay out out of direct sun – just in case anyone was born yesterday and is able to comprehend English.

    I will need your advice johanna. However, I have to wait until 9pm due to work! 😂

  187. Black Ball says:

    Heed. Heed your advice.

  188. I just had a look at the NSW RFS map, and it seems that a good portion of the Great Dividing Range is on fire

    Meanwhile, The Oz reports that at least 56 people have already been charged or cautioned with 71 bushfire-related offences since August, with 16 ogoing investigations into suspicious fires, including a blaze that threatened the rim of suburban Sydney in South Turramurra, on Sydney’s Upper North Shore, on November 12.
    and
    investigators are close to charging more than a dozen suspected arsonists believed to have deliberately lit bushfires as the state remains in the grip of an ongoing bushfire crisis.

    Call me a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but 12 arsonists is not a coincidence it’s enemy action.

  189. C.L. says:

    “Pope” Francis and his crew troll a canonisation:

    The Fulton Sheen Fiasco
    Once again, FrancisChurch toys with the faithful
    .
    ———–
    Related: Pachamama down under …

    Australian Catholic youth festival appears to receive pagan blessing by guest speaker.

    Yes, this picture of the guest bishop is real.

  190. C.L. says:

    So the 12 angry fire chiefs work for Tim Flannery?

    Ahahahahahaha.

  191. stackja says:

    NSW fires doing hazard reduction that Greens would not allow.
    RFS doing great job protecting people who should have known better about bush care..

  192. OldOzzie says:

    cohenite
    #3265215, posted on December 18, 2019 at 9:08 am

    Flannery’s fire and climate change experts:

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort.71/posts/161928631854747

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of former state fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires across the nation and demanding an immediat­e end to the burning of fossil fuels.

    The Australian has confirmed Emergency Leaders for Clima­te Action — 29 ex-fire chiefs led by former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner Greg Mullins — is funded by Professor Flannery’s crowd-funded Climate Council as an official “project”.

    The chief executive of his Climate Council is Amanda McKenzie, a board member of Labor’s Whitlam Institute and founder of the Australian Youth Climate Coalitio­n, the activist group that has sponsored climate change protests by schoolchildren in Canberra and other capital cities.

  193. Juan says:

    And all that survey implies is, also, that the LNP is pro-family-as-an-institution.

    My point exactly. Most voters don’t take the time to read all of the parties’ policies, it’s this sort of positioning that appeals to the majority of voters.

    Nothing about the sex industry.

    It also doesn’t specifically say Deputy Prime Ministers shouldn’t cheat on his wife with his media advisor, but it’s implied.

    Good thing the Australian Christian Values Institute didn’t give Barnarby a ‘Christian Values Award’. The only cause for regret are the Awards they gave to George Christensen, Andrew Broad, and Kevin Rudd!

  194. Val Majkus says:

    Facebook strikes again for no apparent reason

    Facebook group that connects thousands of drought-affected Australians has been temporarily shut down, but it’s unclear why.
    NSW farmer Cassandra McLaren set up the ‘One Day Closer To Rain (Drought)’ Facebook group last May to offer support to drought-stricken farmers.
    “It was a way for farmers to know they weren’t alone, a place for them to reach out to others for help or advice for any situation they’re facing,” McLaren told 10 daily.
    The group is public but requires users to become approved members. Before the shutdown, ODCTR had 45,000 members.
    McLaren said the online group was the largest of its kind in Australia.
    But she said she was “shocked, horrified and stressed” after she attempted to log on to the page on Tuesday morning to find it had been shut down.
    When 10 daily tried to view the page on Tuesday, it came up blank with the message ‘sorry, this content isn’t available right now’.
    McLaren said she requested Facebook review the decision.
    She said she received a message from the social media giant to say the page had been disabled claiming that it did not “follow (Facebook’s) community standards on regulated goods”.
    The platform informed her that an admin would review the decision and would update McLaren once a decision was made.McClaren said she has not heard anything more from Facebook. She wants to know how the page breached the platform’s rules.

    “We’re not a sales page; we’re a discussion group. We block, mute and delete any posts that may offend,” she said.
    Now, McClaren has concerns for the page’s community as she is forced to wait for a response.
    “This page is vital. We can’t afford to sit it out, we don’t know how long it will be,” she said.
    10 daily has contacted Facebook for comment.
    McLaren and her husband own property at Merriwa in the Upper Hunter Region of NSW.

    This is a sad story particularly coming up to Christmas … if anyone can help please do

  195. 1735099 says:

    Christine “don’t go easy on the gravy”.

    She had a meal during the fires, for which she was roundly abused by Morrison who just flew to Hawaii for a long holiday.
    The fires are still burning.
    The man is a hypocrite.

  196. Mother Lode says:

    Sometimes when I talk about how much I crave to work, to create, I get the “they’re only this age once, enjoy it” reply. It’s true, my child is this age only once. And so am I.

    Technically true.

    But it sounds like the writer has been 16 years old for over 30 years.

  197. struth says:

    So we have UN enviro agenda 2030 councils and government actually building fires.
    Imagine you are out camping and you want a small fire to cook your chops and to sit around later.
    If these people were with you they’d be the types who keep bringing kindling, stuffing paper into the spaces and chucking petrol all over it because it was a bit green.
    When their kids chucked a match at it, it exploded in flame and set everything alight around you.
    They stand back in awe while you struggle to put the fire out, and when it dies down they get their new akubras and wave the smoke toward you.
    Feeling like the idiots they are they tell you it wasn’t them what caused it, it was the Liberal Party and coal mining.

  198. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Call me a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but 12 arsonists is not a coincidence it’s enemy action.

    Quite so.
    I suspect there’s a lot of effort going on in certain agencies, but you will see zero coverage in the MSM.

  199. vr says:

    By proceeding with your invalid impeachment, you are violating your oaths of office, you are breaking your allegiance to the Constitution, and you are declaring open war on American Democracy. You dare to invoke the Founding Fathers in pursuit of this election-nullification scheme—yet your spiteful actions display unfettered contempt for America’s founding and your egregious conduct threatens to destroy that which our Founders pledged their very lives to build. Even worse than offending the Founding Fathers, you are offending Americans of faith by continually saying “I pray for the President,” when you know this statement is not true, unless it is meant in a negative sense. It is a terrible thing you are doing, but you will have to live with it, not I!

    Letter from President Donald J. Trump to the Speaker of the House of Representatives

  200. struth says:

    Christine “don’t go easy on the gravy”.

    She had a meal during the fires, for which she was roundly abused by Morrison who just flew to Hawaii for a long holiday.
    The fires are still burning.
    The man is a hypocrite.

    Before just repeating lefty talking points on here, can you have a little think, just a little, before you again make a dick of yourself.
    This has already been explained to Juan, and Juans is enough.

  201. struth says:

    It also doesn’t specifically say Deputy Prime Ministers shouldn’t cheat on his wife with his media advisor, but it’s implied

    I didn’t realise he was a member of the LNP.
    You learn so much here.

  202. Juan says:

    Related: Pachamama down under …

    Australian Catholic youth festival appears to receive pagan blessing by guest speaker.

    Why sow the seeds of division? Whatever happened to bringing the faithful together? 🤷‍♂️

    “Pope” Francis and his crew troll a canonisation:

    He’s not the “Pope”, he’s the Pope. And more importantly — as there are now more Cardinals eligible to vote in a papal conclave (i.e. under 80) appointed by Francis than either of his two predecessors — his successors will be chosen by Cardinals chosen by him.

    It’s looking increasingly likely the First Franciscan Papacy will be viewed by history as transformative for the Catholic Church.

    https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/10/pope-makes-13-cardinals-as-he-molds-a-future-in-his-likeness/

  203. stackja says:

    The private still seems angry after all these years. The flag been lowered?

  204. Eyrie says:

    There’s nothing wrong with the 737 MAX.
    If sensors fail the pilots need to recognise the fact and take the appropriate action in a timely manner, just like lots of things in aviation. Involves turning off two switches on the console between the pilots to disable the stab trim motor or simply holding on to the trim wheel to overpower the motor drive. It is on a slipping clutch arrangement. Also it is a memory item and looks exactly like any other trim runaway case.

    For the other aero engineering “experts” here, the MAX doesn’t have a stall problem. The problem was the stick force gradient at high angles of attack caused by lift from the larger nacelles ahead of the wing at those angles. Nothing to do with thrust or thrust lines. This was a small part of the flight envelope that normally isn’t encountered in service and a waiver against the requirement rather than the MCAS probably would have been OK.
    The A320 NEO and A321 NEO have in some cases (there’s an option – the P&W geared turbofan) much the same engines as the MAX (but with larger fans) and they currently are flying but awaiting software fixes to restore the full C of G travel that was designed as they found there was a problem with pitch up when doing a late go round at aft C of G. Airbus assures everyone this has nothing to do with the MAX problem and you’d believe them wouldn’t you even though those aircraft have been flying for some years and this appears to have been suddenly discovered recently.

  205. johanna says:

    Cripes, Bruce, it is bad enough that we have attention-seeking volunteer firefighters on our plate. Now, it seems that those ‘lone wolves’ we keep hearing about might be on it as well.

    BTW, what’s the score around Newcastle?

  206. Old School Conservative says:

    She had a meal during the fires

    Get your facts straight.
    It wasn’t a meal, it was dinner with husband, and Police Appeals Board chair Bernice Masterson and Lita Bostjancic, Ms Nixon’s executive assistant at the time. While Victoria was burning!
    That’s not a meal. It’s a political meeting.
    Oh and the “meal” was taken just hours after she was told of the looming disaster and that lives were going to be lost. She basically said “bugger them” and went about her priorities.
    She also lied by omission in her first appearance at the bushfire RC by leaving out her haircut that day and the meeting with her biographer.

    As the deputy co-ordinator of emergency management and co-ordinator of the state’s disaster plan, Nixon should not have been pursuing personal interests on a day of tragedy. But “I had to eat”!

    By trying to minimise Nixons absolute failure, you are just as culpable as she is.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Johanna – Cool, calm and very nice! Tomorrow is forecast to be hot though.

  208. stackja says:

    Pope Francis is not helping his cause.
    With the Vatican facing a financial crisis and who will provide the funds?

  209. Juan says:

    It also doesn’t specifically say Deputy Prime Ministers shouldn’t cheat on his wife with his media advisor, but it’s implied

    I didn’t realise he was a member of the LNP.

    Barnarby Joyce was a member of the Queensland LNP and sat as a Senator representing that party until 2013.

    And while post-2013 he switched his membership to the LNP affiliate south of the border, he was Deputy Prime Minister in a government with a one seat majority by grace of the support of the 21 LNP MPs.

  210. johanna says:

    Good to hear, Bruce. The usually clogged highway up the coast will probably be even worse this year, as Sydneysiders who planned to go south go north.

  211. Juan says:

    With the Vatican facing a financial crisis and who will provide the funds?

    The Catholics could follow what the Anglicans are doing to raise funds: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2019/16-august/news/uk/thousands-ride-helter-skelter-in-norwich-cathedral

  212. mh says:

    Barnarby Joyce was a member of the Queensland LNP and sat as a Senator representing that party until 2013.

    So Juan, when did the Beetrooter begin banging his staffer?

  213. OldOzzie says:

    It begins: Virginia forms active militia to protect sheriffs, citizens from unconstitutional laws

    Things are getting really bad in Virginia. But this group isn’t going down without a fight.

    Virginia – Earlier in the week, we reported on how lawmakers over in Virginia were threatening to use the National Guard if members of local law enforcement refused to enforce laws passed in the state that they felt violated the second amendment.

    Well, looks like Tazewell County isn’t going down without a fight. On top of calling themselves a second amendment sanctuary county, they’re also crafting a militia as well.

    The second item on the agenda was the proposition of establishing a militia in the county. When both of the resolutions passed, the crowd cheered loudly in support of the decisions. Also, the resolutions didn’t exactly pass by a small margin; the votes were unanimous, with more than 200 citizens standing by in support.

    County Administrator Eric Young reportedly considered that element, and that’s why they opted for the militia aspect:

    “Our position is that Article I, Section 13, of the Constitution of Virginia reserves the right to ‘order’ militia to the localities. Therefore, counties, not the state, determine what types of arms may be carried in their territory and by whom. So, we are ‘ordering’ the militia by making sure everyone can own a weapon.”

    Thus, if anyone from the state tries to remove the Sheriff from their elected office because they refuse to enforce unjust laws, those state officials will be faced with a lawful militia composed of citizens within the state.

  214. johanna says:

    Gullibles here still responding to ‘juan’, a certified troll. Aka Septimus and his ghastly spawn.

    While it seems that some people get their testosterone levels up by play-fighting with trolls – it’s very tedious for the adults. It’s like having dinner in a good restaurant while feral kids rampage around and command attention.

    Ignore, ignore, ignore.

  215. mh says:

    Farmer Gez
    #3265120, posted on December 18, 2019 at 6:27 am
    …On the Juan threesome chat. I know a bloke who had the same situation and used to boast of his luck. The wife left with another woman and he gets to see his kids every now and then.

    Two Mums will be laughing together saying “not so smug now is he”.

  216. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Womyn on womyn at the RC.

  217. JB of Sydney/Shanghai says:

    Eyrie, an old friend has about 30,000 hours in his log book, (on a great variety of aircraft) most recently on the 777. Still flying .

    His recent email to me agreed completely with your post on the 737 Max.

    He flew the simulator at Boeing, a week ago, had zero trouble with the “problem” , even though he is not type rated.

  218. Twostix says:

    Call me a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but 12 arsonists is not a coincidence it’s enemy action.

    Climate change cultists.

  219. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    We await Chrissy’s ‘Dear Diary’ musings.

  220. 2dogs says:

    but it’s implied

    No.

    You are conflating two different things.

  221. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault says:

    Ignore, ignore, ignore.

    Top of the morning to you Johanna.

    While I agree with you entirely, you’re wasting your time.
    Trolls are like heroin around here, and most Tom Cats are addicted.

    Boofhead says hello – or at least would if he ever woke up long enough for such an endeavor.

  222. Juan says:

    So Juan, when did the Beetrooter begin banging his staffer?

    From what is in the public domain, it was while he was Prime Minister thanks to the “confidence” of 21 pro-family values LNP Members of the House of Representatives.

    Though I can’t say with any confidence he was entirely faithful before that point in time; I just don’t know. What we do know is federal politics is rife with affairs, on all sides of politics, and it’s almost a natural consequence of the job. Most politicians spend the largest part of their year in Canberra, while their wives and children remain at home. In Canberra they live in a bubble with free flowing alcohol and numerous younger, attractive, and highly ambitious people around them, some of whom hang on their every word. It’s an environment almost designed to eviscerate ‘family values’.

  223. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    We are now being bogged down in wimminses issues thanks to ‘Er ‘Onner’s intervention. Couls be a lot of this.

  224. areff says:

    Big Kev goes straight into the sisterhood schtick. Only one year (total) of actual hands-on policing, but a PhD in managementspeak

  225. dopey says:

    Zyco
    That Israeli research ship has a strange symbol on it, crescent shaped.

  226. Twostix says:

    Fire chiefs’ climate group a pet ‘project’ of activist Flannery

    Climate activist Tim Flannery is the force behind a band of ex-fire and emergency chiefs accusing Scott Morrison of abandoning­ bushfires

    We need to have a good hard look at who’s starting these fires!

  227. johanna says:

    Hey Peter

    A scratch behind the ears for Boofhead when he wakes.

    What does he look like?

  228. mh says:

    Juan
    #3265265, posted on December 18, 2019 at 10:03 am
    So Juan, when did the Beetrooter begin banging his staffer?

    From what is in the public domain, it was while he was Prime Minister thanks to the “confidence” of 21 pro-family values LNP Members of the House of Representatives

    While he was PM. I must have missed that.

  229. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Oh and the “meal” was taken just hours after she was told of the looming disaster and that lives were going to be lost. She basically said “bugger them” and went about her priorities.
    She also lied by omission in her first appearance at the bushfire RC by leaving out her haircut that day and the meeting with her biograp

    wiminises have no idea how to lead and should be kept well away from leadership positions that involves more than a couple of minors

  230. Juan says:

    While he was PM. I must have missed that.

    Ah, finally you got me! Please amend that to Deputy Prime Minister.

    Nonetheless, after many a thrust-and-parry, I’m suitably chastened at being outwitted by mh. I will serve my penance sans complaint! 🤣

  231. johanna says:

    Peter, I was wondering because Mark Steyn is reading L M Montgomery’s admirable ‘Anne of Green Gables.’ In one of the later books, Anne is adopted by a feral cat, who is eventually named Joseph, because his coat is of many colours.

  232. Has the woman that impacts the tides called for a food break yet?

  233. 8th Dan says:

    Airbus assures everyone this has nothing to do with the MAX problem

    That’s because it has nothing to do with the MAX problem.

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