Open Forum: December 14, 2019

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Hopefully next move will be to replace John Stanley with Jane Marwick full time.

    Jane is a very sensible lady.

  2. johanna

    Poor old JC is so embittered by his hatred of me that he is defending the absurd notion of a national temperature average. It’s kind of flattering to have the equivalent of Trump Derangement Syndrome aimed at one. That said, it’s sad that somebody who can act rationally in the financial markets completely loses it when somebody he doesn’t like says something.

    There is no such thing as an average temperature for a continent. Any competent statisician, geographer, or observer of the BoM’s metrics could explain why. It’s a meaningless concept.

    It was dreamed up by the warmenistas to generate scary headlines, faithfully reproduced by the stenographers.

    BTW, have you had that mole checked recently? I would, if I were you. 🙂

  3. This may be an unpopular view in this part of the internet, but I have no problem with the rigorous enforcement of perfectly justified, indeed necessary, laws prohibiting mobile phone use while driving.

    Juan I might have thought you were someone else, so what do you think of stand your ground laws and the castle doctrine?

  4. Boambee John

    johanna
    #3265932, posted on December 18, 2019 at 8:46 pm
    The BofBullshit has just told us that today was the hottest evah:

    Time for a minor amendment to ScoMo’s recent Administrative Arrangements Order.

    Remove the climateers from the BoM, and put them with their fellows in the CSIRO. Tgendirect that the BoM provide forecasts for no more than four days ahead, and report each day what they forecast, and what happened.

    Then screw down the CSIRO budget for climate “research”.

  5. Overburdened

    Tailgunner 7:08

    You are welcome at my camp.

    You will get reduced circumstances and a spartan regime.

    C’mon cxxt. I got a spare board.

  6. Juan

    Seems Smith will do weekend shows

    Is he joining the The Garden Clinic or The Continuous Call Team? 2GB doesn’t really do Smith’s style of show on weekends.

    Chris Smith was offered Steve Price’s old evening slot once 2GB decided to go with Steve Price for afternoons; he turned it down.

    Steve Price was also offered his old evening slot once 2GB decided to go with someone else for afternoons; he also turned it down.

    So it looks like John Stanley’s job is safe!

  7. Vargan come on carnt don’t be a vargan weird carnt.

  8. Overburdened

    About to nip out for a cameo in WA, so back March.

    Maybe you should hold off until winter to freeze your nuts off in the ocean then experience the joy of a sky full of stars, a raging fire and a hot outdoor shower.

  9. Look at the degenerate fascists agreeing with Beryl Gladishocklian:

    Simiam Sam
    — 18 Dec 2019 19:55
    Arses.. dangerous arses.. Take away their car….. and their drivers licence

    So if you are driving around in a Ferrari 355 or a new Merc truck and B double trailer and you use your phone, you lose your 1 mn AUD investment?

    These people are just little block wardens.

    I hate these spastics more than Beria hated compassion and decency.

  10. Overburdened

    Drencher shower head.

    So good.

  11. Black Ball

    What is the go with the SCG and the sand?

  12. JC

    Oh STFU jezebel. You’ve spent the entire day commenting on other people’s comments but it’s TDS to highlight why you’re an imbecile.

    It’s impossible to attain average temps, but we can use rough and ready proxies at satisfy scientific curiosity.

    Get to bed, you’re drunk and more imbecilic than usual.

  13. Juan

    Same guy who wants porn for all and shops to be able to display obscene images has no problem with fascist police state enforcing stupid road rules.

    No problem with it as long as no one’s distacted while driving something weighing two tons at 60 km/h.

    If you can provide an example of someone causing a vehicular accident because they were looking at a People magazine open on their lap, well that might cause me to revisit my position.

    Do you have any such examples?

  14. egg_

    Beige, or maybe cream, Naugahyde human hide for the Model A upholstery would complement the scarlet exterior duco beautifully.

    FTFY.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Johanna and Nick. Double shuffle again.

    Full on Lizzie Derangement Syndrome.

    lol

  16. Tel

    A hundred km in 3 hours? Yep, we’ve hurtled into the 21stC we have.
    It’s fun that Gladys’ trams were also very very slow this week.

    A diesel bus will go no faster. Not everyone lives on the side of a highway Bruce. A city bus has a lot of stop start and traffic, that’s what they are all like.

    Electric motors can give all the speed you want, that’s never been a problem. I’m fairly confident an electric bus would move off from the lights quicker than a regular bus.

  17. No problem with it as long as no one’s distacted while driving something weighing two tons at 60 km/h.

    Great.

    Why not provide us with some sort of stimulation to prevent us from falling asleep?

  18. johanna

    I see that JC has not shaved his back recently, and the prickly heat is getting to him.

    But, I do emphasise, get that mole checked.

    It could be cancer.

  19. Overburdened

    Going out on a limb. Sinc is skulking in various disguises.

  20. johanna

    Lizzie, wtf?

    Believe it or not, not everything is about you.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Anyone interested in British sacred offshore islands, I have a review in this month’s Quadrant about Lindisfarne. If it gets linked online I will link it here.

    Hairy insisting we watch the History channel in a show about Verdun before Mad Men. It has just finished now. Lots of fighting, death and dying in the Verdun defended mountains above the lovely River Meuse. We went there 2002.

  22. Overburdened

    …that is not to ascribe him to the people who have the time to play here.

  23. Overburdened

    Johanna

    I have eclectic tastes due to my hybrid vigour.

    Donald Fagan and Walter Becker will be remembered long after many pop stars rise and fall.

    When I crack out the EKO, which is most every day, I always strum Dr Woo and Do It Again out of respect.

    They are the only Steely Dan songs I can play.

    They are tricky and I’m shit so hey.

    Still great.

  24. Juan

    Lots of fighting, death and dying in the Verdun defended mountains above the lovely River Meuse. We went there 2002.

    For a summer read, I’d highly recommend The Price Of Glory, by Alistair Horne. It’s a beautifully written and brilliantly detailed account of Verdun and, more broadly, the First World War. 🙂

  25. Nick

    Donald Fagan and Walter Becker will be remembered long after many pop stars rise and fall.

    Ditto. Their amusing lyrics and tight sound are classics

  26. johanna

    I’m a pool-keeper’s son, I don’t want to shoot no-one – don’t take me alive.

    Steely Dan:

  27. mh

    Anyone interested in British sacred offshore islands, I have a review in this month’s Quadrant about Lindisfarne.

    Lizzie, why is it sacred? Is it sacred to anyone still today?

  28. JC

    Jezebel

    Those taunts are getting a little old and tired. They always show up when you’re shown to be moron. That’s every time you show up here, you sad hippo.
    Now go to bed as you’re drunk.

  29. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    Speaking of such, the sad story of St Kilda deserves to be heard.

  30. Tel

    Juan to argue with Griggs?

    Juan gonna like it.

  31. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    More Lizzie Derangement Syndrome from Johanna. Nick will chime in next. They are the main deluded attackers.

    Neither of them can help themselves.

    How much more pleasant the OT would be without this constant LDS, not initiated by me, nor encouraged by me, with its ridiculous slurs and idiotic comparitors etc as per the general contemporary syndrome applied to those hated simply because of who they are, what they do or have done in life, the manner in which they converse or the things they converse about.

    Nothing I want to say to these two or other exponents of a classic left modus operandi.

    If it looks like LDS, if it reads like LDS, if it aggresses like LDS, then LDS it is.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lots of fighting, death and dying in the Verdun defended mountains above the lovely River Meuse. We went there 2002.

    I’d recommend a documentary about Verdun to any halfwit who trots out the tired old nonsense about the French Army running out of white flags.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    So who could eat two party pies? Isn’t eighteen the average serving?

    In my part of the world the slang for a 24 pack is “a Nixon”.

  34. johanna

    Overburdened, I drop in now and then to sites which try to teach people how to play rock classics. There are also sites which analyse classics in terms of musicology, or why they became popular. None of them can get a handle on Fagan and Becker.

    It is like a Model T mechanic trying to understand the Space Shuttle.

  35. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/Rn3RoIRVLZ8

    What do you think of this Johanna?

    Or anyone else

    Whatever

  36. johanna

    As JC is fond of saying – go to bed, Lizzie.

  37. Steve trickler

    Each movement of those telescopes would be booked in advance and invoiced afterwards.



  38. Overburdened

    True that.

    Their back story is great and they a both blokes I have always admired.

    I bought Can’t Buy a Thrill because of the name of the band and was on board of the bat.

  39. johanna

    JC, before you demand that I go to bed for the eleventy millionth time, have you had that mole checked?

    Sweet dreams.

  40. Juan

    Lizzie, for you and Hairy, the Escadrille Lafayette and its mascots, Whisky and Soda:

    https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/2006-21463hjpg

  41. Overburdened

    Fn…off the bat.

    If I was any good the iPad would be a memory.

  42. Overburdened

    Johanna

    Sheesh

    Spooky

  43. Overburdened

    Your shit at another poster is not in good spirit.

  44. Overburdened

    Oops

    Meta analysis shows that you weren’t being weird Johanna.

    Humblest apologies.

  45. cohenite

    Prediction: no one gets charged let alone convicted and clinked in vicpol. No one gets convicted and clinked from the IG and Durham reports. The demorats are now handing out free driver’s licences in NY and a number of other states to illegals who will be able to vote. Evens for Trump unless he declares martial law.

  46. duncanm

    A random sample of ‘the hottest evah!’ day in Aus. Remote stations with some sort of history., so we can ignore UHI. This is BOM’s own data.
    I’ve picked what looks like a common hot day in the past for the following sites.

    Site / Today / 2Jan1973
    Bourke NSW: 40.4 / 43.6
    Broken Hill NSW: 41.3 / 41.8
    Birdsville QLD: 47.2 / 45.5
    Halls Creek WA: 43.8 / 41.5
    Giles WA: 42.9 / 44.5
    Oodnadatta SA: 43.8 / 45.3

    mean: 43.2C / 43.7C

    Sure, this isn’t comparing apples, but it shows that this random scattering of remote sites had a least one hotter day in the past (and I just randomly poked around, so I am certain this is not the highest).

    Giles only goes back to 1956. I’d love to see the homogenization bullshit the BOM came up with to determine older records. I wonder just how old their ‘Australian average’ number goes back.

    This is hilarious – the strongest trend in warming over Australia since 1910, of 0.2°C/decade is smack bang where there are no stations

  47. johanna

    Overburdened, I listened to ‘lollipop porn’ and it didn’t do much for me. But, how about Nick Lowe ‘Crackin’ Up? Nick married country star Carlene Carter, who he credited with putting the c*nt into country. But, I digress:

  48. C.L.

    Another Crackin’ Up – the Stones live at the El Mocambo nightclub in Toronto, 1977 …
    I love this:

  49. cohenite

    This is hilarious – the strongest trend in warming over Australia since 1910, of 0.2°C/decade is smack bang where there are no stations

    Alice Springs is to blame for that:

    I now turn to Alice Springs, which ‘has a notably large “footprint”’. Too right it does- its impact on the national climate signal is 7% to 10%, according to the 2011 Review Panel, p. 12.

    Alice Springs, cooling slightly compared with neighbours, has been adjusted (-0.57C at 1/1/1932) so that the Acorn reconstruction is warming (+0.66C / 100 years) relative to its neighbours. The adjustment is much too large.

    And exactly where are these neighbours?

    Tennant Creek (450 km away), Boulia (620 km), Old Halls Creek (880 km), Tibooburra (1030 km), Bourke (1390 km), and Cobar (1460 km)!

    The site with the largest impact on Australia’s climate signal has been “homogenised” with neighbours from 450 km to 1460 km away- except the adjustment was too great, resulting in the reconstruction warming too much (+0.66C / 100 years) relative to these neighbours. The same applies at Kalgoorlie. Meekatharra’s record only starts in 1927 so its effect can be discounted. These are the only remote Acorn sites that had large adjustments at this time. All other remote Acorn sites open at this time either have similar trends in raw and Acorn or had no adjustments in this period.

  50. johanna

    Sorry, C.L. if it was just a garage band (and that’s what it sounds like) nobody would give it five seconds.

    It’s rubbish.
    And, compared to Steely Dan, it’s not even on the graph.

  51. dover_beach

    As of this writing, at least ten studies published since 2010 report a tremendous rise in ED. Rates of ED among men under 40 ranged from 14 percent to 37 percent, and rates of low libido from 16 percent to 37 percent. No variable related to youthful ED has meaningfully changed since then, except for one: the advent of on-demand video porn in 2006. It’s worth repeating: we went from less than 1 percent of erectile dysfunction in young men to 14 to 37 percent, an increase of several orders of magnitude.

    Whatever you think of fMRI of the brain, those numbers re ED and low-libido among men under 40 are worrying and call for some explanation.

  52. C.L.

    The Stones maintained the garage band, Johanna. That’s why they were the greatest.
    Steely Dan – they had two or three songs. None that are played anymore.

  53. I’ll take Steely Dan over the Stones every day of the week.

  54. Overburdened

    https://chordu.com/chords-tabs-nick-lowe-cruel-to-be-kind-with-lyrics-id_Z7tsz1Jow1g

    Johanna

    Girl after my own heart.

    If you are a girl.

    Internet and all

    Cruel to be Kind with chords

  55. Overburdened

    CL

    With all respect you must be joking.

  56. Infidel Tiger

    Whitesnake are touring in March.

  57. Diogenes

    A hundred km in 3 hours? Yep, we’ve hurtled into the 21stC we have.
    It’s fun that Gladys’ trams were also very very slow this week.

    I was at the Ipswich Railway Museum the day the Gold Coast Railway was opened to Robina (1996). One wag Noted that despite the 140kph trains and formation, it STILL took 5 minutes longer to get from South Brisbane station to the Southport transit centre, which was built on the site of the old Southport Station, than it did when the original Southport line was opened in 1889

  58. C.L.

    With all respect you must be joking.

    About what?

  59. Spider

    Seriously if I see one more bloody meme on Facebook blaming Scott Morrison for the fires I’m going to bloody lose it. This has become tiresome beyond belief.

  60. johanna

    Yes, I’m a girl, Overburdened. It seems that we share tastes in music, to some extent 🙂

    Poor old C.L. is obsessed by the Strolling Bones. I like their early stuff, a lot. A few things from their middle period. After that …

    Anyway, it is always a pleasure to meet someone whose musical tastes are as eclectic as mine. How about:

  61. Mark A

    Arguing about caterwauling noise is about half a degree better than feeding the trolls.

    No wonder pop concert goers are stoned out of their mind, there ia no other way to endure that racket.
    Scrolling.

  62. Mark A

    Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood-Summer Wine

    I like thanks

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    With all respect you must be joking.

    I’ll spare you the old chestnut “any sentence that begins with ‘all due respect” goes on to contain no such respect.”

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nick at 7.20. Pure gratuitous LDS.
    Happily then joined by Johanna. It is what they and their ilk do.
    _______

    Mad Men tonight was heading into Don’s collapsing marriage. This series explores the dying fall of the West as the boomer generation grew up and everything changed. It is immensely poignant.

    Lucky I am known for not drinking much or I might even get the sobs over it all. Those who know me can confirm that I am always the designated driver when out and mostly, like tonight, very abstemious at home.

    Watching ‘Love It or List It’ now.
    Highly predictable, but them’s the breaks.
    Always upbeat too. Light relief. 🙂

  65. Black Ball

    The Hun today has the tertiary entrance scores published. A cursory glance at the big subjects like Physics, Maths methods, Chemistry, Specialist Maths and English, you would be hard pressed to find a ‘traditional’ surname. The Asian students are expected to strive for excellence, ours, not so much. Quite depressing reading.

  66. Sydney’s snail rail: Fury and disbelief as new $3billion trams take TWICE as long as the bus and the long-delayed opening weekend is plagued with breakdowns and blunders

    Twice as long as the bus?
    On the day it opened (last Saturday) I managed to walk at the same speed as the tram between stops.
    But no worries, at ONE QUARTER OF A BILLION per kilometre it’s totally worth it for Clover Moore to not have to put up with seeing and hearing buses pull up outside Town Hall.
    Strange how the sound of a jet engine from a taxpayer funded first class 20 hour plane journey to climate change conferences in Paris doesn’t annoy her.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood? Classic!

  68. C.L.

    Just lazily adding an obscure “Crackin Up” song to the thread playlist, Johanna.
    It wasn’t a statement about band loyalty. We’re not 15 tear-old girls – despite your continued loyalty to Led Zeppelin (a 15 year-old girl’s band from the 1970s). 🙂

  69. Mitch M.

    Whatever you think of fMRI of the brain, those numbers re ED and low-libido among men under 40 are worrying and call for some explanation.

    You need to point to a possible causal mechanism. Sperm rates have been declining for decades, testicular case incidence is increasing, we still don’t know why. The most common cause of ED is vascular. Too many fat young men with advanced atherosclerosis is a more probable cause because in these days, especially in the USA, there are concerning findings of atherosclerosis even in teenagers. Lack of exercise also means lower T levels and low sperm counts certainly suggest that. Long ago a friend of mine warned me that while there is an issue with xenoestrogens there may be a problem with anti-androgens. That is another possible explanation.

    Men who chronically watch porn are losers, mostly fat lonely alienated slobs jerking off to relieve the tedium and desperation of their lives. If they get ED they bloody well deserve it.

    There are studies that point to a possible issue but the ones I looked also were not conclusive and argued for higher quality studies. The three large studies below argue against the association.

    To be directive: when you see journalists and others making the arguments as in the original link don’t trust it. Look for supporting evidence. I hate to admit but in the world today there are so many people pushing barrows I almost invariably need to find supporting evidence.

    July 2019

    The Potential Associations of Pornography Use With Sexual Dysfunctions: An Integrative Literature Review of Observational Studies

    There is little if no evidence that pornography use may induce delayed ejaculation and erectile dysfunction, although longitudinal studies that control for confounding variables are required for a full assessment.

    2015
    Is Pornography Use Associated With Sexual Difficulties and Dysfunctions Among Younger Heterosexual Men?

    Abstract
    Introduction: Recent epidemiological studies reported high prevalence rates of erectile dysfunction (ED) among younger heterosexual men (≤40). It has been suggested that this “epidemic” of ED is related to increased pornography use. However, empirical evidence for such association is currently lacking.

    Aim: This study analyzes associations between pornography use and sexual health disturbances among younger heterosexual men using four large-scale online samples from three European countries.

    Conclusion: We found little evidence of the association between pornography use and male sexual health disturbances. Contrary to raising public concerns, pornography does not seem to be a significant risk factor for younger men’s desire, erectile, or orgasmic difficulties.

    Is Pornography Use Related to Erectile Functioning? Results From Cross-Sectional and Latent Growth Curve Analyses. J Sex Med 2019;16:111-125.

    Conclusion: In conjunction with prior literature, we conclude that there is little or no evidence of an association between mere pornography use and ED, consistent evidence of an association between self-reported problematic use and ED cross-sectionally, and no evidence of causal links between any pornography variables and ED. Grubbs JB, Gola M. Is Pornography Use Related to Erectile Functioning? Results From Cross-Sectional and Latent Growth Curve Analyses. J Sex Med 2019;16:111-125.

  70. feelthebern

    I can’t recall seeing a SCOTUS judge giving an interview.

    The two ladies Obama appointed have.
    But I agree, it is unseemly, a SCOTUS judge flogging a book.
    And he is one of the only two good ones.

  71. johanna

    18, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    The Stones maintained the garage band, Johanna. That’s why they were the greatest.
    Steely Dan – they had two or three songs. None that are played anymore.

    That’s because nobody else can play them.

    As for having ‘two or three songs’ – you are just making stuff up. The density of creativity in Steely Dan’s albums is truly exceptional.

    I’m guessing that Rikki lost your number. Possibly, while perpetuating The Royal Scam:

  72. feelthebern

    Mitch, IT will be here shortly to cherry pick your post.

  73. Snoopy

    TheirABC:

    Perth Christmas Day weather forecast predicts it to be Australia’s hottest city as the heat returns

    Well unless there’s a dead heat 🙂, one of Australia’s capitals has to be the hottest.

    And the forecast temperature? A sizzling 96.8F. In summer.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    If you can’t accept that pornography is an insidious evil, then you have problems.

  75. JC

    OB

    There’s no need to skirt around the bush. She’s very available. Very. In fact, if can get her off the site and keep her preoccupied with other stuff you can name your price. We’ll do a crowd fund.

    You won’t be literally sweeping her off her feet because she weighs in at a tardy 210 kilos, but I’m sure you could have a happy time together. Just do what Shallow Hal does in the movie.

  76. Top Ender

    I put my Best of…Steely Dan on the other day.

    Mrs TE complained.

    She complains when I play my compilation CDs of rock classics: “you always play those…”

    Then when I put something unusual on I can’t win either.

    She also hates Supertramp, and Jimmy Buffet.

    She does like Robbie Williams. Not sure if that is a plus or a minus.

    The cat has gone mad.

    He is now 18, named Guinness as he is black and white, and is bloody lucky he wasn’t called Michael Jackson back in 2001.

    He has taken to a) trying to get into the shower, b) drinking from the irrigation system, and c) walking about yowling.

    Help me Cats.

  77. Mitch M.

    If you can’t accept that pornography is an insidious evil, then you have problems.

    If you can’t accept that you chose to believe what was written without casting a critical eye over it, you have big problems.

  78. feelthebern

    IT proposes flying squads to stop people watching porn.

  79. Snoopy

    Signs of Acute Kidney Failure in Cats
    Sudden loss of appetite.
    Excessive thirst.
    A sharp drop in energy levels.
    Vomiting (potentially coughing up blood)
    Bad breath.
    Seizures.
    Change in frequency of elimination: some felines may go more often; others may not be able to urinate at all.
    Black stools.

  80. jupes

    Another Crackin’ Up – the Stones live at the El Mocambo nightclub in Toronto, 1977 …
    I love this:

    Me too. That album is an old favourite.

  81. Anthony

    Loss of power in Werribee but it’s okay – cause is listed as vandalism and not state vandalism.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    Mitch you are not an expert.

    In fact all you have done is cite other so called experts. You’re like my autistic assistant with a degree in google.

    Do your own research fella and then get back to me.

  83. max

    The Hun today has the tertiary entrance scores published.

    Indeed, BB, spend any time around university departments like metallurgy requiring STEM skills and the students are ovewhelmingly Asian. Be interesting to see the intake into Medicine and Engineering and Architecture at somewhere like Melbourne University. The balance of women and men in different faculties may have changed in areas like Medicine, but not in IT or Engineering, I’ll bet.

    But I suspect our professions will be dominated by people with Asian backgrounds in the future.

  84. JC

    Prediction: no one gets charged let alone convicted and clinked in vicpol. No one gets convicted and clinked from the IG and Durham reports. The demorats are now handing out free driver’s licences in NY and a number of other states to illegals who will be able to vote. Evens for Trump unless he declares martial law.

    Cronkers, you’re being a little flamboyant here. Not little, but huge. I didn’t have to present proof of legal residency when I went for a NY drivers license. I had to sit for a boring five hour lecture in a filthy room with a bunch of foreigners, then sat for a multiple choice teat and lastly a worthless driving test. I doubt that’s changed in NY. Stop over-egging the soufflé. In any event, Trump isn’t going to ever win NY anyway.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Help me Cats.

    Wot Snoopy said. Visit to the vet indicated.

  86. mh

    Happy birthday Keith Richards

    76 today 🥳

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, this lot are taking the money from their reno in Melbourne and moving to Queensland for a ‘lifestyle change’. Obvious no-brainer, Hairy and I nod in agreement although I think Qld would be too hot and sticky for us both

    TV off now. Put his last tucker out for Attapuss, get lemon juice drink for bedside table, and off to bed. See y’all.

  88. MatrixTransform

    Causes of ED … women bitching on a forum, record high temperatures, brexit, impeachment, vietnam

  89. Arky

    Infidel Tiger
    #3266064, posted on December 18, 2019 at 11:21 pm
    If you can’t accept that pornography is an insidious evil, then you have problems.

    ..
    Globalist turds like nothing better than to prey on the broken shards of society left over from their other projects:
    One parent homes, drug use and de-industrialisation.
    Evil indeed.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Liberalism will have a greater and more destructive toll than socialism.

  91. JC

    Just watched Marriage Story on Netflix. I’m surprised it’s out so quick because wifey went to see it with a couple of friends in NYC and that was only about 4 odd weeks ago.

    Adam Driver’s in it. I always took him for a bit of a cuck, he is a little bit of one in the movie, but he did a decent performance. Scarlett Johansson’s is in it too with short hair and wow, is she getting more masculine by the day. I wouldn’t be shocked if she has a sex change.

    But the one I really can’t stand is Laura Dern. There’s just something about that woman that turns me off. She is so Californian.

    Overall, it’s watchable if you have nothing to do.

    Driver wasn’t that much of a cuck in real life. He seems to only play those roles.

    Shortly after the September 11 attacks, Driver joined the Marines and was assigned to Weapons Company, 1st Battalion, 1st Marines as an 81mm mortar man. He served for two years and eight months before dislocating his sternum while mountain biking. He was medically discharged with the rank of Lance Corporal.

  92. johanna

    About now, back when I had skin elasticity (unlike our eternally young correspondent) I would be sitting in the Bourbon and Beefsteak, with the windows open, a constant stream of the good, the bad, and the ugly going by. Christmas in Kings Cross.

    And the music (even though I was a devoted follower of modern music) was Frank:

  93. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/2oyhlad64-s

    Paco De Lucia.

    Keith Richard plays in the chord of Keith and without Charley Watts who knows how the Stones would have turned out.

    One of the best live bands I have seen and if you like a ballad, Memory Motel from Black and Blue is sweet.

    Listen without prejudice is my catch cry.

    The first record I bought was an EP The Rolling Stones at the London Palladium.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Breaker Morant” – that wasn’t his real name , BTW, he was Edwin Murrant, small time crook and con man, and his father wasn’t an Admiral in the Royal Navy, he actually ran the village poorhouse, was a war criminal and murderer who got his just deserts.

  95. JC

    The first record I bought was an EP

    EP means extended play. What’s the difference between EP and LP (long playing)?

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    mh – sorry, missed replying to you re Lindisfarne.

    It is sacred due to its past as a place of healing and retreat with many legendary associations into the deep past, enhanced by a monastic presence there in early Post-Roman Christian times.

    It is certainly still sacred today to many Christian pilgrims, as also is its founding House on St Columba’s Iona in the north-west just off Scotland.

    Both are similar places.

    Lindisfarne is seen by some as a place for making a spiritual reckoning. See my review of one secular man’s attempt to do so there.

  97. Porter

    Diversity Council Australia urges bosses not to mention ‘Christmas’

    Of course. I wonder if the edge boss is not to say Happy Hanukkah or happy Eid. Who is this quasi-fascist Diversity Council anyway? What sort of self-appointed dictators are they? Why do we tolerate such an imbeciles?

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bed now. I don’t always immediately disappear as I get ready for bed, btw. I keep my phone handy bedside and may still dip in.

    No-one needs to make a Federal case about that.

  99. OB

    If you like Paco, you might like Tommy Guerrero.

    Try the Road to Nowhere first.

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lol. Minor LDS still hanging in there.

  101. johanna

    The difference between an EP and and a single is that an EP had two songs on each side of a 7 inch record.

    Lizzie, good to see that you are now admitting that when you claim to be leaving, or flouncing, or whatever, it’s not really true.

    Baby steps.

  102. dover_beach

    The most common cause of ED is vascular. Too many fat young men with advanced atherosclerosis is a more probable cause because in these days, especially in the USA, there are concerning findings of atherosclerosis even in teenagers.

    But the thesis is men’s inability to maintain an erection with real women, not an erection at all. As PEG writes:

    Online forums are full of anguished reports from young men about ED. An agonizing story is eerily common: a young man has his first sexual experience; his girlfriend is willing, he loves her or at least is attracted to her, but finds himself simply unable to sustain an erection (though he is perfectly able to maintain one when he watches porn). Many more report a milder version of the same problem: during sex with their girlfriend, they must visualize pornographic movies in their heads to sustain their erection.

    You can’t wave that away by means of obesity as it doesn’t explain the ease of maintaining arousal by means of porn, though not with an actual women filling his five senses. And the difference does point to a causal mechanism associated with the brain.

  103. Lazlo

    JC:

    An EP was a disc the size of a “single” played at 45rpm, containing 4 songs rather than 2. My first purchase of such was Twist and Shout.

    An LP was a 12 inch disc, with about 14 songs, played at 33rpm.

    My first record player had four speeds: 78, 45, 33, 16. I could never figure 16. Did anyone ever own one?

  104. johanna

    BTW, my early purchases of EPs included Cream, the Rolling Stones and The Kinks.

    Unfortuntely, they were stolen somewhere along my last house move.

    I am still trying to be Zen and all that about it.

  105. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Can you believe that I will be impeached today by the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, AND I DID NOTHING WRONG! A terrible Thing. Read the Transcripts. This should never happen to another President again. Say a PRAYER!

  106. You can’t wave that away by means of obesity as it doesn’t explain the ease of maintaining arousal by means of porn, though not with an actual women filling his five senses. And the difference does point to a causal mechanism associated with the brain.

    No, the problem isn’t that men are fat.

    The problem is the women are fat as well.

    Both of these together, generally explain ED better than “blame porn”.

    Drop 20 kgs for the man and give him 23 year old Josie Maran and watch his spirits rise.

    Erectile dysfunction and autism are mostly modern neuroticisms.

  107. JC

    I could never figure 16. Did anyone ever own one?

    I think 16 was for records from the 40s and 50s, no?

    Jez and laz, I can’t recall records having two songs on the same side, which we called singles. I recall LPs having multiple songs on either side. Also, I recall singles being a small record that had a song on both.
    I can’t remember EPs.

  108. johanna

    If you see a small volcano steaming around Queanbeyan, that is me when I think about my lost collection of singles and EPs.

    Apart from that. I’m cool as a cucumber (whatever that means.)

  109. C.L.

    Love Sinatra. How can you not?
    Up there with him is the great Nat. Honey voice.
    Smoked three packs of Kool a day – more if he was recording (he thought they smoothed out his voice even more). Dead at 45.

  110. Lazlo

    EPs coulda been a UK thing, not Ozzie, dunno.

  111. C.L.

    I still have Mum and Dad’s 1950s albums – including the 78s and 45s.
    They’re heavy and they smash if you drop them.

  112. IT proposes flying squads to stop people watching porn.

    Oh please. Porn has been around forever. Just look at some of the murals in Pompeii and Herculaneum. Granted you would have to run in circles to get the full stereostopic effect but it probably had the same effect.
    The reason men get ED these days is shit diet coupled with the effect of having to peel away layers of flab to get at something stimulating from the lard arses they end up in bed with after a night on the turps, which is about half the women in this country.
    Men who go for nice svelte Asian women have no issues. In fact the opposite, they look worn out half the time. And they don’t have sticky keyboards.

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Erectile dysfunction and autism are mostly modern neuroticisms

    Standard affliction for 99% of libertarians.

  114. Actually IT when I went to the meetings I can honestly say there was no fatties; also, not a single REEEEE was heard.

  115. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #3266104, posted on December 19, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Can you believe that I will be impeached today by the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, AND I DID NOTHING WRONG! A terrible Thing. Read the Transcripts. This should never happen to another President again. Say a PRAYER!

    The dude is going through fucking hell you know. I can imagine there must be times when he rues the day he ever went for the big job. Reading through the lines, I think he’s deeply, deeply upset by it all. Those canutes haven’t given him a single day of clear sailing from day one. It’s been one hoax after another.

    Adam Schiff and Nadler deserve a seriously decent hiding.

    Here’s and admission

    We have some pals who are on friendly terms with politicians and because we lived where we did, they were on friendly terms with D’rat pols. I thought it would do my kid some good padding his resume if I managed to get him an internship in Washington over our summer. Washington internship with a US pol…. It would look great starting out on the first job. It would look good after law school.
    I asked our friend if he could arrange it and he did with Jerry Nadler. Nadler’s Washington office emailed our friend and said they would be happy to take him in. And then, and then our kid flaked out. It was summer here and he wanted time off in warm weather and didn’t want to leave his girlfriend at the time. I ended up with egg on my face with our friend because of the massive flaking.
    It was a fortuitous flake I think… although I still reckon it would have looked great on his starting out resume.

  116. C.L.

    A huge culture change occurred way back in the 70s when Flint got the green light to publish photos of vulvas. I just read the Wiki entry out of interest and wasn’t surprised to see the mainstreaming of child molestation by him (and other mags) throughout the 1970s. This is a fact being assiduously disappeared nowadays. The political left everywhere in those days was strongly pro-molestation. That was their default position.

    In 1984, conservative academic Judith Reisman received a grant from the Department of Justice to complete a study at American University concerning the cartoons of Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler, specifically the sexual depictions of minors in these cartoons. She finished the study in 1986, and found that on average, the number of times per issue that Hustler referred to children, crime, and violence was 46…

    Hustler’s chief cartoon artist Dwaine Tinsley was arrested on May 18, 1989, after being accused by his 18-year-old daughter Allison of molesting her since she was thirteen years old. According to court records, he allegedly told his coworkers, “You can’t write about this stuff all the time if you don’t experience it.” Tinsley was found guilty of five counts of child molestation and sentenced to six years in prison although he only spent 23 months behind bars. Tinsley was the artist behind the regular “Chester the Molester” series, which ran from 1976 to 1989.

  117. Oh come on

    Take a bow, Nigel Farage, you magnificent bastard. Glorious stuff. If there’s any justice in the world, you’ll never have to buy a pint at any boozer worth spending time in ever again.

  118. JC III, dob 3/11/1992

    Dec 2006-Feb 2007 Pepto Bismol pump attendant and gut herder for Mr Jerry Nadler, Esq, US Representative

  119. Mitch M.

    You can’t wave that away by means of obesity as it doesn’t explain the ease of maintaining arousal by means of porn, though not with an actual women filling his five senses. And the difference does point to a causal mechanism associated with the brain.

    Lack of exercise and poor diets have very worrying effects on the brain. It is very well established that exercise is one of the best means to induce neurogenesis. There is literature pointing to hypothalamic inflammation arises from fat laden diets. Obesity causes systemic inflammation and that has implications for so called executive functions, a recent study even pointed to possible dopaminergic disruption. This health-behavior linkage is old news, all the way back to Benjamin Hart’s concept of sickness behavior. The brain is not separated from the body, the brain is not the sole mediator of behavior.

    The literature does not support the argument for porn and ED. In biomedicine it is not enough to have a logical argument. I joke with people that there is so much research it is easy to create plausible arguments. Evidence is critical and the peer reviewed literature does not support the claims. Why are you supporting an argument when the evidence is not sufficient?

    Online forums only prove that people have too much faith in anecdotal reports.

    I have no doubt that there is a number of people for whom porn is a serious problem but that can be said of a multitude of things in the world, even sugar which activates the reward pathways. That’s the price we pay for an open society.

    Mitch you are not an expert.

    In fact all you have done is cite other so called experts. You’re like my autistic assistant with a degree in google.

    Do your own research fella and then get back to me.

    I’m way ahead of that author. Don’t patronise me with do your own research bullshit. Doctors don’t do their own research and we trust them. What a ridiculous standard, as if all of us must do our research in order to prove a point.

    What did you do IT? You relied on a non-expert to convince you. Is that the standard these days, don’t trust any experts anymore, don’t read the people who have put in the hard yards to understand something? What’s the alternative? Wishful thinking? Confirmation bias?

  120. Whoops!

    2016-2017

    It’s too late for basic arithmetic.

    Damn iPad!

  121. johanna

    C.L. – sitting in the window of the Bourbon and Beefsteak with a Bloody Mary would have included Nat on the jukebox, for sure. Great singer.

    But, somehow, Frank captured the moment. Dunno why – that’s art.

  122. C.L.

    Take a bow, Nigel Farage, you magnificent bastard.

    Not since the Labor Party’s “Suicide Squad” voted the Queensland Upper House out of existence in 1922 has there been anything like it. I love how Farage doesn’t bother with any no had feelings stuff. He’s been trolling those swine for years and now that he’s won … he’s going to troll and berate them some more!

  123. Oh come on

    I just read the Wiki entry out of interest and wasn’t surprised to see the mainstreaming of child molestation by him (and other mags) throughout the 1970s.

    Gavin McInnes: Rockstars Were Ped-oh-files.

  124. JC

    The political left everywhere in those days was strongly pro-molestation. That was their default position.

    And company takeover artists too.

  125. Steve trickler

    Crafty. Nice work.



  126. JC

    I still can’t believe the Ron Brierley story.

  127. Read the comments in McInnes per OCO.

    All of politics boils down to:

    1. The fight over OPM.
    2. The fight over abortion.

    The fighting can be summarised as:

    3. You’re a dangerous terrorist, murderer child abuser or threat to democracy.
    4. Therefore you ought to be killed, and this is justified.

  128. JC

    The D’rats need to be careful, but as always with the left, they push things too far.

    Trump supporters are angry but they’re not “mad” angry. They don’t want to get Trump supporters like really mad angry or a lot of blood could be shed.

  129. JC

    FMD, they’re disgusting. The worst.

    Democrats have dismissed the GOP allegations, saying their choice is a matter of principle, not politics.

    “Very sadly, the facts have made clear that the President abused his power for his own personal, political benefit and that he obstructed Congress as he demanded that he is above accountability, above the Constitution and above the American people. In America, no one is above the law,” Pelosi wrote Tuesday in a Dear Colleague letter ahead of the high-stakes votes.

    “During this very prayerful moment in our nation’s history, we must honor our oath to support and defend our Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

  130. Mitch M.

    What strikes me in these documentaries is the way the veterans talk about their experience of war. So different from Hollywood. This one is about Canadian snipers.

  131. johanna

    Lack of exercise and poor diets have very worrying effects on the brain.

    Mitch, just when I thought you might be on the side of the rationals … oh dear.

    You need to stop worrying about what other people do.

  132. Infidel Tiger

    Ryan Fournier
    @RyanAFournier

    BREAKING: Mitch McConnell just said that the Senate will dismiss impeachment after opening arguments.

    Take that, Dems.

    Cocaine Mitch is a boss

  133. FMD, they’re disgusting. The worst.

    Believe me.

    he obstructed Congress as he demanded that he is above accountability, above the Constitution

    How? The Democrats never had control of both houses by 2/3 majority so she’s talking out of her rear end.

    Trump could always, nearly always deny funding by veto, subject to the super-majority rule.

  134. Mitch M.

    The bluff that the sniper pulls off at 47.20 is a hoot!

  135. Infidel Tiger

    I still can’t believe the Ron Brierley story

    Power and money so strange things.

    He was dobbed on by someone who knew he was a sick man

    We need a list of all his friends. 82 year old men don’t get that amount of depravity on their laptop on their own.

  136. C.L.

    Impeachment is a total bust. The DNC’s pollsters must know this by now. Everyone knows it’s s sham.
    More than ever, I believe Trump will win handily next year. I even think voters have got their baseball bats ready. There is a simmering fury about what the Dems have been doing. This may explain why poor old Joe is being slowly guided towards the business end of one of those big yellow American school-buses. He’s going under. He’ll take the fall for the team.

  137. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #3266136, posted on December 19, 2019 at 12:52 am

    Ryan Fournier
    @RyanAFournier

    BREAKING: Mitch McConnell just said that the Senate will dismiss impeachment after opening arguments.

    Take that, Dems.

    Cocaine Mitch is a boss

    Yea, but how does the GOP go after Biden and his son if he closes up the shit show after the opening arguments? Do they have separate hearings or they just let them go like all other corrupt D’rats?

  138. Hi Mitch

    I have posted this before, but this is the best, saddest documentary I have seen on returned soldiers.

    Soldiers in Hiding – 1985 Documentary about US Vietnam Veterans

    “Armed, bitter and dangerous”

  139. JC

    Impeachment is a total bust. The DNC’s pollsters must know this by now. Everyone knows it’s s sham.

    Of course it is, but I still think it’s deeply upset the orange man in a way that really hurts at the personal level. I feel a genuine sorrow for the dude and what he’s been through with these fucking animals. They’re just animals that need to be caged.

    Schiff has committed treason.

  140. Mitch M.

    Mitch, just when I thought you might be on the side of the rationals … oh dear.

    You need to stop worrying about what other people do.

    Johanna it is my opponents who care about what other people do in the privacy of their homes. I used those points to illustrate that the behavior is mediated by more than the brain. I’m not a libertarian, far from it, but I am suspicious of moral crusaders cherry picking research to justify laws regulating our lives. I tell people what I believe to be true but that does not mean I demand people behave as I wish.

  141. Mitch M.

    Hi Mitch

    I have posted this before, but this is the best, saddest documentary I have seen on returned soldiers.

    Soldiers in Hiding – 1985 Documentary about US Vietnam Veterans

    “Armed, bitter and dangerous”

    Thanks Frank, bookmarked. In the doco I’m currently watching, and I’ve seen many like it, sometimes you can see the pain and anguish written all over the faces. It reminds of an old saying: the only glory in war is surviving. Sadly so many don’t survive so well when the war is over.

  142. johanna

    Mitch, at its crudest, the oft spruiked relationship between exercise and longevity is a bust.

  143. C.L.

    New York league franchise said to be chasing Folau with big money.

  144. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #3266139, posted on December 19, 2019 at 12:55 am

    I still can’t believe the Ron Brierley story

    Power and money so strange things.

    He was dobbed on by someone who knew he was a sick man

    We need a list of all his friends. 82 year old men don’t get that amount of depravity on their laptop on their own.

    Apparently he made a comment regarding the pictures in the positive.

    I have no idea how computer literate he is but if he needs help then he must have someone to call on.
    If so it’s quite conceivable that most of the stuff was loaded on without his knowledge.
    Easy done.
    Specially when dobbed in afterwards.

  145. JC

    I have no idea how computer literate he is

    If he’s taking a computer with him to Fiji, which is where he was heading, he sounds reasonably literate.

  146. Porter

    New York league franchise said to be chasing Folau with big money.

    Haha that would be epic. I just hope that he doesn’t doesn’t pay off that vexatious complainant before he goes but squashes him and the New South Wales ADB especially.

  147. Mitch M.

    Mitch, at its crudest, the oft spruiked relationship between exercise and longevity is a bust.

    Sort of but irrespective of longevity, which has a strong genetic component, odds are regular exercise is a good strategy because it delays the onset of chronic health problems. In the “blue zones” the individuals who live long don’t exercise like we do, it is more that their lifestyle keeps them moving most of the time in a gentle way whereas in our culture for most people that isn’t possible so we go to gyms, do yoga, run, swim, whatever and then go back to sitting behind a desk looking at a screen. I don’t have the genes for longevity but I enjoy the time at the gym and so does my body.

  148. C.L.

    Meanwhile, Jeff Horn meant business last night in Brisbane.
    I’ve never seen a REF so covered in blood.

  149. Black Ball

    Of course it is, but I still think it’s deeply upset the orange man in a way that really hurts at the personal level. I feel a genuine sorrow for the dude and what he’s been through with these fucking animals. They’re just animals that need to be caged.

    It has been disgustingly personal JC. President Trump though has shown great resilience and strength and allowed the judicial process to proceed. Although that has blown up spectacularly in the faces of the collective Democrat morons. The public are increasingly seeing this sham for what it is. A partisan clown show.
    You are correct though JC. You have opined before that it will take a serious financial downturn to have the media gnash their turgid fangs, which will have the Democrat primary elect on parity in the polls.
    Still think President Trump knows the pitfalls by now, so hopefully we toast his success next year.

  150. Porter

    I see Nixon dumped all over Overland today like the good little turdlette that she is.

  151. Porter

    That’s not boxing. That looks more like attempted murder.

  152. Infidel Tiger

    Zerafa was robbed by the ref stopping the fight for the medical check just as he was about to put Horn to sleep

    Great fight though. Horn is very tough.

  153. Mark A

    There is a wide range of computer “literacy”
    My wife is quite competent in using email and FB, Excel even, as long as all is well.

    First sign of trouble and she is lost, I used to help out with connecting to her comp, via Teamviewer.
    I could’ve loaded anything and everything to her comp, without her being any the wiser.

  154. DrBeauGan

    Maria has ‘flu, she says. So I told her to stay away until she is better. She has stopped calling me darling.

    I went shopping this morning and cooked breakfast. Two fried eggs and some suspicious looking chorizo with fried potatoes. I got two decent frying pans into Cuba.

    Waiting for the carousel to disgorge my luggage was grim. It turned up just as I was thinking of taking someone else’s bag. Anyone’s. I’m not fussy.

  155. struth

    Diversity council Australia. ……

    NOT GOVERNMENT FUNDED it’s website screams yet to get to the sponsor s page ……..of all those government funded organizations that fund it requires becoming a member.

  156. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3266170, posted on December 19, 2019 at 2:41 am

    Maria has ‘flu, she says. So I told her to stay away until she is better. She has stopped calling me darling.

    Is that good or bad?

    Waiting for the carousel to disgorge my luggage was grim. It turned up just as I was thinking of taking someone else’s bag. Anyone’s. I’m not fussy.

    Not unique to Cuba I’m afraid, last time we returned to Melbourne I frantically searched for some of our luggage for 40 minutes or more.
    Finally went to the lost luggage counter and they pointed to an obscure carousel I never knew existed, and I’ve been in and out of MEL dozens of times.

  157. struth

    Women and computers.
    Exactly the same as women with cars.
    They know how to drive them.
    End of story.

  158. DrBeauGan

    Maria has ‘flu, she says. So I told her to stay away until she is better. She has stopped calling me darling.

    Is that good or bad?

    If she has found a new boyfriend that lets me off the hook, it is good. I wish her well and hope she has a happy life. But trying to turn her into a business woman is running into difficulties, mainly Maria being lazy. And afraid to do anything new and different.

  159. struth

    Can you believe it…..that bloody Australian is back
    We could get SFA out of him last time…….bugger it, I’m not calling him darling anymore and he won’t be getting in the way of my efforts with my new western sugar daddy.

  160. struth

    Tell him you got the flu.

  161. Mark A

    struth
    #3266177, posted on December 19, 2019 at 3:00 am

    Can you believe it…..that bloody Australian is back
    We could get SFA out of him last time…….bugger it, I’m not calling him darling anymore and he won’t be getting in the way of my efforts with my new western sugar daddy.

    There might be some truth in it but I still can’t fathom why the good Dr went back, unless he has some feeling for the wench?

    There surely would be some enterprising (shady) characters in Cuba who could arrange cigar deliveries more efficiently than lazy Maria?

    What about the landlord? His name escapes me just the moment. He seems to be capable enough, traveling to Mex all the time.

  162. Nob

    Lazlo
    #3266101, posted on December 19, 2019 at 12:08 am
    My first record player had four speeds: 78, 45, 33, 16. I could never figure 16. Did anyone ever own one?

    Never saw a 16. Maybe it was for spoken word only libraries.

    We had all the other speed records.

    The thing was that each speed would slow down or speed up music and the pitch would be altered by exactly an octave compared to the next one.

    So you could learn to play a tricky passage by switching down to the next speed and it would still be in tune.

    Or at least it worked near enough by playing a 45 at 33.

    So I heard.

    Never tried it myself.

    All irrelevant now anyway.

  163. Mark A

    Nob
    #3266180, posted on December 19, 2019 at 3:12 am

    16 RPM were the LPs of the time and records (10″) are still available, they were intended for longer pieces of music.

  164. Zatara

    Going to be an interesting day in the US.

    – Trump impeachment vote in the House this afternoon/evening. Probably succeeds.
    – US markets are all up at record levels today. It seems investors couldn’t care less about impeachment, nor should they.
    Trump holding a massive rally in Michigan tonight.

    The rally will be right after the impeachment vote if all goes as scheduled and it will be a blast. A historical must watch.

  165. struth

    All as irrelevant as the selectomatic……..move one record forward and the rest would follow.
    Amazing stuff.

  166. struth

    The o-matic days.

    There was hydromatic.
    Of course automatic.
    Flipomatic.
    Glideomatic
    Etc etc.

  167. Nob

    My youngest did a great picture in primary school.

    Hair-o-blasto.
    “The hairdryer that is also a GUN.”
    Pic of his brother shooting himself through the head with a hairdryer and going “What the …?”

    They get on better now.

  168. struth

    They wouldn’t be doing it if they really thought they could kick Trump out.
    There would be a war….a war they’d lose.
    This is just fuel fot their media and because they have no alternative.

    For socialists it’s all about the struggle.
    The bullshit virtue signaling struggle.
    Mein Kampf

  169. struth

    I wish there was a sleepomatic.

  170. Mitch M.

    I wish there was a sleepomatic.

    Me too. What the doc gave me doesn’t work.

  171. Women and computers.
    Exactly the same as women with cars.
    They know how to drive them.
    End of story.

    No, they bloody well don’t.

  172. Overburdened

    JC from last night.

    What do you reckon.

    F WoNT

    Thanks for Tommy Guerrero.

    First track’s rhythm n beat sounds remarkably like Take Five by Dave Brubeck. Appreciated.
    Paco De Lucia and Al Di Meola have done some great collaborative work.

  173. Mater

    Mater’s Meteorology Challenge Update

    Predictions for High in Horsham for Fri 20 Dec 2019
    Current Time: D-1

    Weather.com.au:
    Weather.com.au, has revert to its ‘bold move’ strategy and stepped their prediction back up to 48 degrees.
    (Previously – 42, 38, 48, 47, 47, …)

    YR App:
    YR has gone with 45 degrees again.
    (Previously – 39, 42, 44, 45, 45, …)

    This close to the event, YR has also started providing predicted hourly temps. So in fairness, I’ll provide their equivalent of what WeatherZone has done for the entire 7 days:

    1500 hrs – 45
    1600 hrs – 45
    1700 hrs – 45
    1800 hrs – 44

    WeatherZone:
    After a brief soirée in the lower temps, WeatherZone has returned to its original prediction of 47 degrees. The Temperature Curve looks quite flat. The Error Band has continued to tighten…if only slightly.
    (Previously – 47, 47, 45, 46, 46, …)

    1500 hrs – 44.9 (Previously – 44.8, 44, 41.9, 43.9, 44, …)
    1600 hrs – 45.3 (Previously – 45.3, 44.9, 42.7, 43.7, 44.5, …)
    1700 hrs – 45.6 (Previously – 45.6, 45.6, 43.6, 44.6, 44.6, …)
    1800 hrs – 45.6 (Previously – 44.7, 44.8, 43.1, 44.4, 44.3…)

    Error bar – 43.8->47.5 (Yesterday – 42.5->47)

  174. 1735099

    Another one of Fatty 5D’s* mates goes down.
    How many is that now?
    It’s like ten green bottles.

    * Trump escaped service in Vietnam where 57000 of his countryman died, because he had heel spurs, although he can’t actually remember which heel.
    Today he will be impeached.

  175. Farmer Gez

    The hottest day evah will probably have the same effect as the extreme heat in late 1973. It will drag a strong monsoon south and produce a wet 2020 as was 1974.
    The heat up in the North creates the massive low low that sucks the moist tropical air south, just like the Indian subcontinent.
    The drought will break and in a big way but the flooding will be seen as another manifestation of climate change by the catastrophists who invade our ears and eyes with their wails of doom.

  176. 132andBush

    Watching the Horsham temp closely yesterday for about an hour from 12:30, amazing how much it jumps around, 40.3 to 41.5 back to 40, all within 30 minutes.
    Digital temp sensors.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    You really do live in a different universe don’t you Numbers. One where Pelosi, Biden and Kerry are whiter than white in their corrupt Ukraine interests, yet Trump who played a perfectly straight bat (as testified to by all the directly involved witnesses) is dirtier than Al Capone.

    Weird how such people can be so otherworldly.

  178. Farmer Gez

    I’ve lost track, how many doomsdays till Christmas?

  179. struth

    Being impeached is only being summonsed basically.
    I hope he does get impeached.
    Sniffy should hope he doesn’t.

  180. Tom

    A few hours before or after he is impeached by the US House of Representatives (assuming Dems facing voters in 11 months time don’t chicken out), today’s Trump rally in Battle Creek, Michigan, will be yuuuuge. They may even change up the battle cry from the Stones’ You Can’t Always Get What You Want to Queen’s We Are The Champions. Starts around 11am AEST. LIvestream here.

  181. Tailgunner

    Numbrs begins the premature victory lap!
    😅😅

  182. struth

    When are the men going to stand up and stop the female hysteria so gripping the west?

    I love women, but that is not the point.
    Men know what women are and we should no more give them power to rule as we should let them fight our wars.

    Has anyone ever really encountered a female boss who wasn’t overcompensating for the fact she is shitting her knickers underneath.
    They are not born for it, and do not want it.

    The rare ones who do, used to rise to the top without help, like Thatcher, as it should be.
    These people who we should hold up on pedestals for all that they are, humans totally different than us and wired that way, instead we let , actually push them (other females telling them what they should achieve) into a world they are uncomfortable in and we must hold ourselves to blame.

    Put it this way.
    How would the Climate Change movement be going without the participation of a sex that can believe in astrology, something men laugh at?
    Women are timid and fearful even when they say they are not, and it leads to the panic we see amongst the majority of kids out on climate strikes who are fearful young girls, and those strikes in turn driven by the very female dominated education system of fearful gullible hags that aren’t ever being countered or opposed by men.
    Men of the west, to let your young children down like this, by not standing up to female hysteria, as is the very bloody reason you were put on this earth, is shameful.
    Most of the bullshit regarding the sexes is female led and would never have seen the light of day, and never did, right up until women started calling the shots that underneath they do not want to call.

    The experiment has caused untold misery for men and women alike, and yes technology has changed the world, and the pill etc, and men no longer need to work harder and do the jobs that women could not physically do , like wheat bag stuff, but there at least needs to be a redressing here.
    Please realise our overarching responsibility is first and foremost to be men.
    To take the fear from women’s hearts and calm them down and give them security.
    To make them admire you enough to want to be in your tribe.

    Our civilisation depends on it.

    I’m just putting it out there, as I realise there are many men here on the Cat with the integrity and strength of conviction and decency that marks a man.
    I just want to get messages like that out to young blokes other than my son and to those who have seriously never contemplated that by birth right, they are here to lead with all the terrible responsibility that comes with it.
    If we don’t as a nation become a nation of men who care enough to say no to women, we can forget our civilisation.

  183. Shy Ted

    I still can’t believe the Ron Brierley story.
    Me too but maybe for different reasons. Am I missing something here but 200,000+ images? Would that be a movie broken down into screenshots or something like that? It just doesn’t seem feasible that anyone could actually look at that many images let alone download them. I just did a quick image search of snakes and counted the number on a single page. You’d have to be sat at your computer all day, every day for months running into years to even glance at that many.

  184. dover_beach

    The literature does not support the argument for porn and ED. In biomedicine it is not enough to have a logical argument. I joke with people that there is so much research it is easy to create plausible arguments. Evidence is critical and the peer reviewed literature does not support the claims. Why are you supporting an argument when the evidence is not sufficient.

    What the literature says is in dispute. I don’t know whether the evidence is conclusive, but I support further investigation of sound arguments.

  185. Tailgunner

    Thanks for the link,Tom.
    It’s gonna be an epic rally!

  186. feelthebern

    In my part of the world the slang for a 24 pack is “a Nixon”.

    I’m still laughing at Leigh Lowe’s submission for post of the year.

  187. feelthebern

    I still can’t believe the Ron Brierley story.

    I was shocked too, but when you think about it, he lives in a bubble.
    After a while unless you have a solid moral compass, you can see him becoming more & more depraved.
    This is the kind of shit the bilderburgers get up to at their Eyes Wide Shut parties.

  188. OldOzzie

    The Supreme Court Must Not Let Google’s Theft of Intellectual Property Stand

    Creepy as its invasions of user privacy lies to the public are, it would be one thing if Google were playing by the rules. But the company has not proven itself a trustworthy actor in that regard, either. As it’s grown larger, it has begun to break the law with increasing impunity, daring its competitors to engage in years-long, expensive lawsuits and betting that policymakers are too slow to keep up.

    Google is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with the software-development company Oracle, over what Oracle claims is outright theft of its intellectual property. If Google prevails, the outcome will fundamentally change digital-copyright protections as we know them.

    At the center of the dispute are 11,500 lines of code that Google is accused of copying from Oracle’s Java programming language for use in its Android mobile operating system, the most popular mobile OS in the world. According to the legal filings, Google initially approached Oracle about licensing Java for Android after trying and failing to write its own code. When negotiations stalled, Google simply copied the code anyway. Oracle sued Google in 2010, alleging that Google’s use of the code violated copyright law. Google doesn’t dispute its wholesale copying of the code. Rather, it argues that its theft of the code falls under the “fair use” doctrine of copyright law, because it has sufficiently transformed the code by placing it in a new context — namely, a mobile OS.

  189. struth

    When people die as the head of emergency services, a fat diversity pick slag, goes out to stuff face and climb the ladder of corruption instead of doing the job she would have no clue how to do anyway, it’s not really the number of people who died.
    You must ask WHO died.
    Any UNiparty, political elites of any kind, senior public servants?
    No?
    Carry on then…………………………..

  190. feelthebern

    Google held out & paid 500mill all up (including estimated legals) for something that happened 11 years ago.
    Not a bad business model for them.

  191. feelthebern

    On September 12th 2001, I apart from having a couple of whizzes, I didn’t leave my desk all day.
    Coffees were brought to me.
    As was food.

  192. Boambee John

    * Trump escaped service in Vietnam where 57000 of his countryman died, because he had heel spurs, although he can’t actually remember which heel.

    Perseveration is back, patient should avoid all news media for four weeks. This might bring some relief.

  193. dover_beach

    Oh please. Porn has been around forever. Just look at some of the murals in Pompeii and Herculaneum.

    Not at all. The thesis is about the easy availability and variety of copious amounts of free porn online. BTW, the comparison to ancient Rome is absurd. Huge segments of the population didn’t stand in front of murals masturbating, then move on to another mural to continue. Nor were artists painting different actors in ever increasing debauched scenes to maintain the interest of viewers.

  194. feelthebern

    Cop car at the end of Sid Enfield drive today, before you turn right down Ocean street.
    Don’t cops have better things to do than try fine the hard working people of Wentworth right before Christmas?

  195. pete m

    Shy ted

    The kiddie bad pictures are swapped around as packages, hundreds in one go. Read a few crim cases involving these perverts and you find they trade them like property. Thousands at a time. It would not take long for a sicko to get hundreds of thousands just takes some money and he had plenty.

    If you read their sentencing you see the same pattern over and over of swapping / buying it in bulk.

    The question for Ron’s case is did he undertake any attacks on kids himself. With this news some now adults may be prepared to come forward.

  196. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Further research may be important regarding the impact of pron on young men’s sexual functioning, given its ready availability, but the causal chain must inevitably be diffuse in any finding. Internet pron is just one aspect of a much wider phenomenon that psychologically affects young men today in ways that may be deleterious, i.e. the rise of feminist and other social agendas that denigrate them. There is also the confounding issue (perhaps) of increasing plant and animal oestrogen levels in the food chain, plus there is also the lack of a male culture of bonding and fighting, age-old male forms of interaction which may be emotionally important in hormonal terms, especially re testosterone production and maintenance. Even football and other sports, a good proxy for this, are being feminised. Add these factors above to the general stressors of modern life for males in the workplace and the diversity of non-usual sexual relationships encouraged for men and the causal picture regarding male sexual psychology and sexual functioning gets even more murky.

    Just sayin’.

  197. OldOzzie

    Google’s Massive ‘Open Source’ Heist: The Punishment Must Fit the Crimes

    “‘Java was created by a team at Sun Microsystems….In 2010,…Oracle acquired Java.

    ‘Using Java APIs, developers can create new projects faster because they do not have to develop entirely new code. They can instead use Java APIs in a sort of cut-and-paste fashion, saving them time on grunt work and enabling them to focus more on innovation.’

    “Java is ‘free and open’ – which means any and everyone can use it.

    “With two conditions:

    “You either make free and open – i.e. public – what you developed atop the Java base.

    They can instead use Java APIs in a sort of cut-and-paste fashion, saving them time on grunt work and enabling them to focus more on innovation.’

    2010??? Pftt – As an Old 360 Assembler Programmer working on IPARS under TPF Op System

    IBM developed APIs with American Airlines to create PARS and in 1965, they then developed IPARS with BOAC which became QANTAM Reservations System

    The UI package which supports input and output messages for terminals logged on to reservation type applications, contains tables which are used to determine the program to be executed based on the message action code. There are two entry tables and one enter table for each application which uses the UI package (up to five applications are allowed). If the package is to be used, you must define in segment UIIA which entry and enter tables are to be used for each application. The entry and enter tables are contained in program segment UIIB, and if required, UIIC through UIIF. You must code the entry and enter tables specifying the action codes to be used and the programs to be activated for processing.

    The entry tables convert the action codes to index values. One table converts the action codes which come in as keyboard entries, whereas the other table converts action codes which are the result of a function/action key (also referred to as the pushbutton) entries. These index values are subsequently used to address the enter table which contains an ENTNC or ENTDC macro for the required program.

    z/TPF was originally designed as the operating system for the Programmed Airline Reservations System (PARS) and for the International Programmed Airline Reservation System (IPARS) application. The UI package was that part of the application which supported the sending and receiving of messages to terminals logged on to the reservation application.

    The message router requirements for the UI package are those for an application using an LNIATA rather than a resource identifier (RID) (see Message router application attributes). If the PARS/IPARS application is required you must specify RES=YES on the CONFIG macro and also supply the PARS user dependent variables via the USEREQ macro. The Fare Quote/Issue Ticket program product may also be included via the FQTK keyword of the CONFIG macro.

  198. struth

    My comment on Porn is this.

    I was talking to my FIL the other day who told me that the young guys around his son’s age prefer to choke the chicken than going out talking to the fat dumb sluts in this area.

    Fine state of affairs.
    It’s a spiral of what cum first, the chicken choking or the fat egg.
    Again it goes back, in my view to my previous comment about the role of women in our civilisation.
    Young men, come out of our education system, ruled by Marxist women assured that if they shaved their heads they’d find 666 on their body somewhere.
    Men let this happen.
    Dealing with the insane, fat, entitled,do nothing females available to them, I can totally understand that they would rather knock the top off it looking at a decent looking female, the likes many other countries seem to have, who if you snagged one might even cook you dinner once in a while.
    Let’s face it, it’s a total mess.

    I often say that “it starts in the schools” and this result of cultural Marxism also started here.
    An attractive young girl who you could win that would work alongside you in marriage is just a thousand times better than porn for a young bloke, as they always were.
    There’s always been porn around, and a playboy was as erotic back in the day as a porn hub video is today, but young men preferred the real thing and still do when it is attractive and worthwhile.

    Remember these young blokes have been told they are shit all their lives from hysterical women in education, drugged for being male and we focus on the porn available?

    Marxist harridans have purposely brought down both sexes to be so unappealing to each other, the porn really is the only option left.
    We get our schools back from the Marxists and bring up young people who are attractive and appealing to the opposite sex and the joy of it all, of being in love, of puppy love etc, remember, and porn would only be the losers vice.
    Right now we have way too many losers that wouldn’t be if we hadn’t let the Marxist harridans at them in education.

  199. dover_beach

    Johanna it is my opponents who care about what other people do in the privacy of their homes. I used those points to illustrate that the behavior is mediated by more than the brain. I’m not a libertarian, far from it, but I am suspicious of moral crusaders cherry picking research to justify laws regulating our lives.

    Regulating porn won’t stop people playing with themselves so people will still have their ‘privacy’. BTW, have I denied that behaviour is mediated by more than the brain? Not at all.

  200. mh

    Oh please. Porn has been around forever. Just look at some of the murals in Pompeii and Herculaneum.

    I think Pornhub would be more addictive.

  201. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t cops have better things to do than try fine the hard working people of Wentworth right before Christmas?

    Apparently not.

    A favoured place too is on Heartbreak Hill (known as such in the City to Surf) going up to Vaucluse or down from it. They’ve made the speed limit there 50kph in an open dual road where people own cars that have real oomph. A godsend for police finances, such easy pickings.

    But nothing beats the speed camera spots at the sets of traffic lights just before you enter the cross city tunnel from New South Head Road. Coming and going, they are a taxman’s goldmine. Hairy and I have both been fleeced, and more than once, at these little earners.

  202. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    pete m
    #3266255, posted on December 19, 2019 at 8:10 am

    + 100 PeteM

    It goes even further than that. There’s more to the internet than just email (mailto) and the
    world wide web (www). Porn both legal and illegal, has been swapped on usenet groups since the days of dialup. There’s entire browser packages available for it (eg. newshost, astraweb), and even search engines for the browsers (eg. binsearch).

  203. Mater

    Internet pron is just one aspect of a much wider phenomenon that psychologically affects young men today in ways that may be deleterious, i.e. the rise of feminist and other social agendas that denigrate them.

    Yes.
    Also, let’s not ignore the fact that a significant proportion* of women watch pron regularly, as do a lot** of couples (together).

    * More than actually fess up to it.
    ** Ditto

  204. struth

    Jerking off to porn is the saddest thing out.
    Basically a lot of young men find chasing substandard in all ways females a stupid proposition.
    Everyone of them knows what the family court is all about and what risks they take with the real thing in Australia.
    My point is, maybe we should look at the reasons they’ve given up participating in what should be the most exciting time of their lives, hearts full of desire, excitement , dizzy with it all, as many of us were with the superb level of females available to us to try and win.
    I wouldn’t spit on the modern slags available myself.

    We just need to get to the root of the problem and it is, in my opinion, to be found in the Marxist takeover of education.

  205. MatrixTransform

    Predictions for High in Horsham

    at least the synoptic now looks like it will be hot on Fri. reckon the arsed that

  206. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Sydney’s snail rail: Fury and disbelief as new $3billion toy trains take TWICE as long as the bus and the long-delayed opening weekend is plagued with breakdowns and blunders

    Gee – no one could have predicted this. Except for all those who did.

    Once more – it should never have been built. Any thorough, objective cost-benefit analysis would have made that very clear.

    Once more – those responsible should be dragged into Martin Place, administered a lengthy public flogging and then hanged.

    It’s the frigging bloody monorail all over again – and on top the latest news about the destruction of the SFS debacle and the completely unexpected (which no one could have foreseen, etc) cost blowouts that will be inevitably borne by taxpayers (again).

    When are we going stop the likes of these monstrous monumental fuckwits destroying this country?

  207. Mother Lode

    Numbrs begins the premature victory lap!

    It is the only victory lap he ever gets.

  208. struth

    I’ve looked at Porn hub and what I feel is sad.
    Sad that I look at all that young flesh and know my time has past.
    And it went too bloody quickly.
    However, men are visual animals as females know, and young girls on it are filming themselves in large numbers, their animal instinct to be as sexually attractive to as many men as possible.
    No one is making them.
    I didn’t go into it much more…………………………..too depressing thinking about misspent youth working when I should have been rooting.
    But I go back to the thrill of the chase, and if the prize is worthwhile, no porn ever comes close.
    We need our young people in mixed classrooms not being able to concentrate on their studies due to raging hormones and an abundance of eye candy everywhere.
    Ah the joy of it all.
    Do we all remember?
    These Marxists are making our kids miserable wankers.
    Literally.

  209. MatrixTransform

    pron: like all good things the regulators will only be happy when excise is applied
    5% of every jizz goes to state revenue for your own good

  210. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    When are we going stop the likes of these monstrous monumental fuckwits destroying this country?

    Too late.
    Parliament is due to sit for three days in February, during which time the final nail will be driven into our coffins. After that it’s all over Red Rover.

  211. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I wouldn’t spit on the modern slags available myself.

    Keep your wig on, St Ruth. The desirability of a young woman remains largely a function of her parents’ socio-economic status (as it has for just about ever).

    The monstrously ooglee morbidly obese twattoo covered slags I’m assailed by daily are largely the progeny of the non-working class. There are still lots of attractive middle class women, including a subset of very intelligent desirable women of Asian background here in Sydneystan. As for the regions, if you take away economic opportunities for people and force them into a life of dependence on government, they will inevitably lose all hope and self respect.

    As noted above, we need to start taking decisive action against those responsible for this sad state of affairs and their enablers.

    Pour l’encouragement des autres.

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I wish there was a sleepomatic.

    Struth, insomnia is worse if you worry about it. For what it’s worth, here’s my cure: just get up, get a hot drink (milk is good if you like it) or even a cold drink, have something like a bikkie to eat, go to the loo, then go back to bed and read a book. Use a little book lite to avoid disturbing Mrs. Struth. You just have to take your mind off the day’s happenings and into another story. See the doc for a physical if it continues, and ask him/her for a script for Temazepam if you can convince them you aren’t going to rely on them forever (which you aren’t). Take half or even a quarter to settle yourself down. This way, a pack of 25 can last for a year! Or do the same with Panadol. The very act of self-treatment kicks in a placebo effect anyway.

    Another to know about sleep is that you have to let go.
    Whatever it is, it doesn’t matter. At 3am, you come first.

    Good luck and sleep tight. 🙂

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    typo – another thing to know

  214. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Parliament is due to sit for three days in February, during which time the final nail will be driven into our coffins

    MV – are you referring to the Gliberals’ war on cash?

  215. 1735099

    You really do live in a different universe don’t you Numbers. One where Pelosi, Biden and Kerry are whiter than white in their corrupt Ukraine interests, yet Trump who played a perfectly straight bat (as testified to by all the directly involved witnesses) is dirtier than Al Capone.

    Pelosi, Biden and Kerry aren’t in jail.
    Manafort, Cohen, Flynn, Gates and Papadopoulos are, will be, or have been.
    What was that about a “parallel universe”?

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dividing spoils of $190m stolen wages win ‘risks injustice’

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    Queensland political reporter
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    9:18PM December 18, 2019
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    Torres Strait Islander women who had their wages stolen by the Queensland government will be paid less than half the compensation for Aboriginal men, under a proposed $190m settlement scheme based on race and gender drafted by lawyers for the indigenous workers.

    Federal Court judge Bernard Murphy will on Thursday be asked to approve the dispersal of the $190m July settlement from the Queensland government, after thousands of indigenous workers had their wages taken by the government, or effectively worked as slaves, between 1939 and 1972.

    The Australian can reveal the settlement scheme is based on whether the workers are alive or have died, their age, race and gender, with $50m to be carved off first for the litigation funders and lawyers.

    Settlement documents show that, broadly, Aboriginal men will receive a certain amount, Aboriginal women’s payments will be discounted by 20 per cent, Torres Strait Islander men will be paid half of what Aboriginal men are paid, and Torres Strait Islander women will be paid 60 per cent less than what Aboriginal men get.

    Aboriginal leader Mick Gooda — who led the Queensland Stolen Wages Repar­ations Taskforce that paid out $21m in 2016 — said the dispersal plan and the fees were “flabbergasting” and risked perpetuating an “historic injustice” and creating division.

    Justice Murphy will be asked to sign off on $38m — or 20 per cent — of the settlement going to litigation funders Litigation Lending, which took on the risk of the class action, and $12.5m for legal costs to be shared between solicitors, barristers, accountants and anthropologists.

    More than 11,000 workers and their descendants will share in the remainder, about $140m.

    Justice Murphy will be asked to decide whether the scheme is fair, reasonable and in the interests of the class action members.

    Cairns-based Bottoms English Lawyers, solicitors for the workers and their relatives, helped devise the settlement scheme. Associate Jerry Tucker said a flat distribution would be unfair, and the scheme had been based on evidence and the law. “The reality is, female ­Aboriginal workers such as cooks or domestic servants received a significant disparity in wages (compared with Aboriginal male stockmen),” Ms Tucker said.

    “This is a deeply unfair historical aberration, it’s not some­thing we support, and we did not make that decision lightly, but we could not ignore the reality.”

    She said Aboriginal people were in line to receive more than Torres Strait ­Islanders because evidence showed Islanders working on pearling and fishing boats received more pay, and had more control over their bank accounts.

    From the Oz.

  217. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sometimes, Struth, I find that you can actually enjoy your insomnia, wandering around the house peering out of windows to see how the world looks at this hour, or sitting down enjoying your place in a new perspective, in quietude.

    It helps to know too that all over town there are people like you, awake, some of them at work of course, but others just sitting having a think, like you are. It is comforting to know that. You aren’t alone, but you are being left in peace. Rather nice.

  218. struth

    Thanks Lizzie.
    I have been a truckie/ tour driver for much of my life and four hours a night was probably the average, sleeping in trucks or swags.
    Now I am home and just playing the odd gig I can sleep for eight …..ten hours what ever I want most of the time.
    I wake up after four or five hours, but I get back to sleep mostly.
    I do as you say, but the book I read is just catallaxy……………………it’s light reading and easily fall aslee……………………………………….snore……………………..

  219. Farmer Gez

    Oh the ironing!
    ABC radio bemoaning the lot of the refugees and our cruel no boats policy and the very next story is about swine flu in Bali. Not a mention of the risk undocumented boats pose dropping in on our shores loaded with Asian piggy snacks.
    Peak stupid.

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