Open Forum: December 14, 2019

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  1. Tekweni

    Watching Zulu for the umpteenth time. The film was not filmed at the actual Rorkes Drift but in the foot hills of the Drakensberg with the Ampitheatre in the background. The Ampitheatre was visible in the distance from my grand parents farm in Natal. Snow covered in winter and as kids on holiday we continually pestered my grand parents on when we could expect snow on the farm. Did have a few falls but not often.

    Rorkes Drift is quite flat and with low hills, nothing like in the film.Been there a number of times and after seeing the film tried to visualize the attack. Has not taken any enjoyment away from the film though.

  2. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘We’re going to leave Europe’

    He says that as though it’s a bad thing.

  3. Digger

    Yes it will…

    To anyone that counts.

  4. Oh come on

    Heseltine needs to retire from public life. He is a major cause of the Tory schism over Europe. He profited from it. However, it has now been decisively resolved. The Tory Europhiles have been utterly annihilated. They have nothing to add to the public conversation that won’t further undermine their already hopeless position.

  5. Oh come on

    You can be a Europhile. You can be a Tory. You can’t be a Tory Europhile, however.

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    In ‘One Nation One Voice, a Noble, Gentle People’ news:

    I now have KFC, having ripped through the drive-through. Well, not actually ripped.

    The car in front was a lady of somewhat aged years in a little white car. Following her round the corner at the drive through, I see she has espied a couple of locals on the drive through surface and stopped. One bloke, half sitting up and Mrs Bloke, having a gentle snooze on the concrete.

    Old love gently bips the horn. Bloke attempts to wake up Mrs Bloke by half standing up and falling over her. Mrs Bloke wakes up, and expresses her displeasure by trying to gouge out his eyes from their sockets, with the standard verbal accompaniment. Slowly rolling over each other at the end of the drive through. No room, obviously, to manoeuvre past.

    Normally I would never tire of this merriment, but cognisant that the cricket was on and after conducting a self audit I decided I was on no mood for this. Out of ute. Drag one combatant by the ankle over the kerb and about eight feet into the woodchip mulch. The other one, hanging on limpet-like and screeching, goes into the chips with the first one.

    Wave through old love. Into ute. Discussion between Bloke and Mrs Bloke continues. Net contribution to society – zero. Into ute and gone, just in time to watch Aleem Dar do an ACL after a Kiwi runs into him.

    Thoroughly washed hands.

  7. Steve trickler

    Her handlers need a kick up the ass.



  8. Fisky

    Heseltine needs to retire from public life. He is a major cause of the Tory schism over Europe. He profited from it. However, it has now been decisively resolved. The Tory Europhiles have been utterly annihilated. They have nothing to add to the public conversation that won’t further undermine their already hopeless position.

    Yes, the Economist, the Financial Times and all those other useless rags used to say that the Tories had a Europe problem. No, they just had a Heseltine/Major/Clarke problem. Unfortunately, it was simply not possible to join the Euro and do all the other things these lunatics wanted. Untenable. And once it was clear that the UK wasn’t on board with “ever closer union” under Blair/Brown, there was going to be permanent tension with the EU.

    So the Tory Remainer position was a long-term loser. BTW, why don’t journalists always ask Heseltine, as their first question in any interview, how much he receives in EU subsidies every year??? You would think that really should be disclosed, right?

  9. Infidel Tiger

    Paul Hogan’s twin sister.

    Looks like Lizzie.

  10. vlad

    MV, there was a tv series way back in the eighties called CPO SHARKEY starring Don Rickles. That was the equivalent of sergeant in the US Navy – chief petty officer – and safe to say it was the same down under.

  11. Bubbles

    Yes, you are right Lizzie.
    Bizarre situation. Close friends for most of our adult life and now – eggshells.
    Overdeveloped nurture response methinks.
    Interesting given that in true Brit style, the kids were contracted out for most of their upbringing.

  12. 2dogs

    If they were paid according to their contribution to the National good (which would bring their income somewhere comparable with the medical profession) educational outcomes would begin to resemble those in countries like Finland, where the profession is valued.

    What is your view on England’s “Free schools” policy, which has seen its PISA scores greatly increase over the last decade?

  13. vlad

    Memory failed me – yet again – CPO Sharkey was the seventies.

    How time flies.

  14. Mark A

    Oh come on
    #3261890, posted on December 14, 2019 at 9:41 pm

    You can be a Europhile. You can be a Tory. You can’t be a Tory Europhile, however.

    You can’t be a total ‘Europhile’ there are bits of it that need to be completely obliterated.

  15. Geriatric Mayfly

    The film was not filmed at the actual Rorkes Drift but in the foot hills of the Drakensberg with the Ampitheatre in the background.

    At Mala Mala I asked the guide what mountains were ion the distance. The Drakensbergs he replied. I opined that they have a reputation for their stunning scenery and even trout fishing in places. He warned that you wouldn’t want to go in there. The bandits from neighbouring Lesotho make it a very risky place for all who enter, especially on foot.

  16. EvilElvis

    Thoroughly washed hands.

    Knuckles, knuckles, knuckles.

    Can we please timeline the sequence of events. The above came last, no mention of KFC devouring before or after washed hands. Please confirm so I can cancel/hurry up the Hazmat roadtrain to your location.

  17. Geriatric Mayfly

    To be seduced you will have to go to thegatewaypundit.com
    Look on this visage and despair. The angle grinder’s work has made her look ridiculous for a 70 year old.
    Hillary Clinton Debuts New Bizarre, Bag-less, Cheeky Look

  18. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh Elvis.

    Digits decontaminated well prior to KFC consumption. I have yet to be disappointed by Wicked Wings.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    I hear from impeccable sources in Alice Springs that should you need to grab one at the end of winter and they’ve been wearing the same clothes since January, skin quite often comes off along with loose clothing.

    Apparently the medical people often have to resole people’s feet because the entire sole skin sloughs off with the sock.

  20. BrettW

    Bruce of Newcastle correct.

    Baker and Hawkins each received UK 30,000 pounds for their roles. However Hawkins pay was not because of his acting status at the time. That budget was pre set and designed to attract a top US star for the missionary role to make the movie more attractive to US audiences. Since they did not get a US star they opted for Hawkins who got the pre approved budget for that role.

    Jacobson and Booth both earned slightly more than Caine who only got 2,200 pounds.

    The full pay of all the actors and much other behind the scenes stuff can be found in the book Zulu : With some guts behind it. Published by Tomahawk Press in UK

  21. Muddy

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3261959, posted on December 14, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    Apparently the medical people often have to resole people’s feet because the entire sole skin sloughs off with the sock.

    If they have diabetes and peripheral neuropathy [spelling?], they won’t know the difference if they’re missing part of their feet anyway. Cut out a foot shape from one side of a 2L plastic milk bottle and staple it on.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The full pay of all the actors and much other behind the scenes stuff can be found in the book Zulu : With some guts behind it. Published by Tomahawk Press in UK

    It was either “Zulu” or “Zulu Dawn” where it emerged that the Zulu extras were being paid less for a day’s filming, then it cost to hire the officer’s horses…

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Paul Hogan’s twin sister.
    Looks like Lizzie.

    Does not!

    Why are you so keen to say I am old and ugly?
    No-one who knows me says that. In fact, a new neighbor calling in for a coffee yesterday said in surprise that I didn’t look old enough to have a sixteen year old grandson and nearly fell of her chair when I said how old I really was. Not everyone who is old in years is old in body and mind.

    I thought you might be aware of that. Vicious little bitch really, aren’t you?
    Wit is not served by bitchiness.

  24. Chris

    Are the SFF or an equivalent active there?

    Have been, cohenite. We got one Upper House Member and almost got two members up two elections ago (I was handing out HTV cards), but even if the Police Minister is interested the Police have so much autonomy and discretion they just keep to their private policies, not letting WA people have liberty within the scope of the law.
    Its my impression though that its gone bad organisationally – the Party officials are defending their turf, not making stuff happen, by not bringing known effective people onto the team even though they are right there in their volunteer lists.

  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I do not have rabbit pouch cheeks for a start. I leave that sort of stuff to Hillary Clinton.

    Anyway, I’ve been slowly lurking here for around an hour and haven’t seen anything I wanted to comment about and can’t contribute anything myself because I am worn out by Brexit, so you guys need to up your game to pull in the Kittehs. I’m off to bed now.

    Where is Calli, by the way? She hasn’t called in for a while now.

  26. Geriatric Mayfly

    Where is Calli, by the way? She hasn’t called in for a while now.

    Excuse the phrasing; but rounding The Horn.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The full pay of all the actors and much other behind the scenes stuff can be found in the book Zulu : With some guts behind it. Published by Tomahawk Press in UK

    Thanks for the reference, BrettW – I’ve bagged a copy.

    FWIW, when “Zulu Dawn” was made, John Hurt was supposed to have had a role. The South African Government refused him a visa – they had him confused with a fairly prominent anti – apartheid activist , whose name escapes me..

  28. Oh come on

    Lizzie, you’re being a prima donna, and I mean that in the least complimentary way possible. Who gives a shit if you don’t find the conversation here to your liking?

    FFS. Get some self-awareness.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    Hang on OCO.

    I was just about to regale all assembled with an anecdote about how I was dusting the Wedgwood when I realised those awful tradespeople installed the wrong shade of marble skirting boards.

  30. Snoopy

    Worn out by Brexit? Luxury.

    I’m exhausted by Catalonian separatism.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jeremy Corbyn’s three sons pay gushing tribute to their father for ‘taking on the establishment’ despite him leading Labour Party to its worst election defeat since 1935

    Ben Corbyn and brothers, Tommy and Seb, paid tribute to his father on Twitter
    They said defeat ‘hurt’ and praised his record of campaigning for ‘less fortunate’
    Claimed he produced ‘the most wonderful manifesto this country has ever seen’

    What is it about the Left, and an infinite capacity for self delusion? Anyone seen Monty, since the monumental defeat?

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    No way Lizzie’s hit the farter by the way.

    ‘you guys need to up your game to pull in the Kittehs.’

    Not really. Plenty of Kittehs to chat to across the threads.

  33. Muddy

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3261979, posted on December 14, 2019 at 11:37 pm

    What is it about the Left, and an infinite capacity for self delusion?

    Transplanted from the ABC analysis thread:

    Visualise the Nike logo, the ‘tick’ device.
    The Left* see themselves as the base of that tick: the solid, grounded, moral weight that anchors everything else.
    They ascribe the ‘right’ as occupying the ‘tail’ of the tick as it rises from the moral base, creating a greater distance – both intellectually and morally – between ourselves and what they perceive as grounded reality; becoming narrower in focus until we reach an endpoint of total insularity.

    If they believe the above, there is never any reason for them to depart from the solid, anchoring, ‘broad’ base (again, visualise the Nike tick device). Any idea or concept that digresses from their position is defined as less broad, less anchored, of less moral weight.

    The more we understand our opponents – how they view the world, how they view themselves – the more prepared we will be to compete and win, rather than simply shake our fists from the sidelines.

    *I use the term ‘the Left’ in lieu of a more effective adjective.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Those Catalonians are on the sheep’s back, Snoopy.

    This is a world where there are Venezualan chicks without phones.

  35. Snoopy

    ‘you guys need to up your game to pull in the Kittehs.’

    Kittehs aren’t the only fish in the sea. There’s always the desperate and dateless over at Mamamia.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Vicious little bitch really, aren’t you?’

    I may be wrong here IT, and I’m happy to stand corrected but I think you miiiiiiight have touched a nerve there with Pouchy.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Does not!

    Why are you so keen to say I am old and ugly?

    Never said that, Liz.

    You are very handsome for your advanced age. Some would say you have movie stars looks. Much like Danny De Vito.

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, you’re being a prima donna, and I mean that in the least complimentary way possible.

    How nice it is when a gnarled old gnome with smelly feet turns to flattery.
    Why should I give a frog’s fart about any of it? It’s just a blog.
    You are much more interesting on climate change than on blog pheromones.

    Now, about being a prima donna? I’ve been singin’ and dancin’ today.
    Having fun with my friends and we all had a really great time. 80’s Christmas Party.
    Walk like an Egyptian. Did a nice little routine to this. Lotsa hand movements.

  39. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You are very handsome for your advanced age. Some would say you have movie stars looks. Much like Danny De Vito.

    I have been complimented on my “movie star” looks. Who’s “King Kong?’

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Now you’ve done it IT.

    You’ve gone and made blog management’s inbox balloon to the size of (the real) Hillary’s.

  41. mh

    All candidates Hugh Grant campaigned with during UK election failed to win seat

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/hugh-grant-campaign-uk-election-defeat

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Why are you so keen to say I am old and ugly?
    Never said that, Liz.

    Oh yes you did, charmer, and it’s Lizzie not Liz.

    A lady is never handsome. You know that. Danny de Vito knows that too.
    Going blind in your older years are you? Sad little case really.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Hugh Grant should emigrate to France, where by any proper analysis the skinny bitch would be rated an alpha male on par with de Gaulle and Charles Martel.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    Told you she hadn’t gone to bed.

  45. Hazmatic

    Cats love a maths puzzle just as much as they love a quiz.

    Here’s a maths puzzle.

    But don’t get complacent – There are three parts.

    This isn’t particularly difficult. It’s just basic algebra with just the mildest sniff of Netwtonian Physics. I think in 1964 in Queensland it was taught as a Grade 11 MathsII module they called ‘Mechanics’. Could be wrong on that. Happy to be corrected by an expert…

    Back in 1964 a three part ‘Mechanics’ MathsII exam question in Queensland might be posed thus:

    “A bomber is flying a straight and level course at a constant airspeed. The bombs from that aircraft fall in a string. Allowing 3 seconds for the bomb bay to open and 4 seconds for the bomb bay to close what duration was the bomb bay open? For a bonus point assuming a homogeneous drag coefficient for the bombs dropped what was the duration between the first ground explosion and the last?

    Given: Constant airspeed 350 knots
    Given: Distance between first bomb strike and last bomb strike equals 1.5 miles

    (That’s the first part. It was 1964 so there were a lot of tiresome imperial measurements. Feel free to do it in metres/second. Cheap hint 350 knots = 180.056m/s – Which entirely coincidentally was the airspeed that ‘Combat Skyspot’ controllers required from B-52’s before they shot their wad over Cambodia in April 1970. 1.5 miles was the average length of a B-52D ‘big belly’ bomb string. Second really cheap hint 1.5 miles converts to 2414 metres.)

    Anyone can play this game s = vt solve for t. Where s=2414m and v=180.056m/s

    Part 2.

    Having solved Part 1. How many B-52D big belly conversion aircraft are required to sustain a bombardment lasting 30 minutes, providing that those B-52D’s drop independently and sequentially?

    Part 3.

    For 100 extra marks. How many B-52D’s were actually operational in 1970? For an automatic pass for the subject offer a resolution between the results of part 3 and part 2?

    Anyone can play. 😉

    There’s someone who has some skin in this game and should but is so mathematically challenged he can’t…

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3261766, posted on December 14, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    A really long piece from The Age today on Sir Ken Jones’ evidence in the Gig RC. Can’t post the lot on this infernal contraption, but the highlights are:

    KD.
    Had a beer at the local crickit today with a recently retired salesman.
    Says Overland is in a lotta, lotta bother.
    Some pieces of what I heard last week from the RC are starting to make sense.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s someone who has some skin in this game and should but is so mathematically challenged he can’t…

    Hazmatic, if you’re ever in Western Australia, I’m happy to buy you a stupendous lunch, and sort out bail when the rozzers intervene.

  48. Oh come on

    How nice it is when a gnarled old gnome with smelly feet turns to flattery

    I don’t know what this means.

    All I was saying was that the ‘I’m bored entertain me’ foot-stamping routine sounded rather petulant and self-centred.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    LL,

    I’ve tipped a ‘medical emergency’, Gobbo style before ‘call me Simon’ (as he famously and apparently used to say to people before he got the big chair) takes the stand.

    Alternatively, best he have a dip at Sorrento and hope like Christ a Chineee sub turns up.

    Because otherwise, I really reckon he might just end up in jail.

  50. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Who’s “King Kong?’</blockquote

    Fay Wray's admirer.

    I’m exhausted by Catalonian separatism.

    No, not you, you are fine. It’s the Scottish who need to worry about that.
    If they think that France and Spain, with all of their separatist problems of Basques and Catalans, are going to welcome The Hogmanny Folk with open arms into the EU if they break from the UK, when these two member states are frantically avoiding their own separatist issues and have big say in who joins the EU, then they have another think coming. If they break, the Scots will be a mendicant state looking for a benefactor. Good luck with that.

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Part 1 – 13 seconds.
    Part 2 – A lot.
    Part 3 – Not enough.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bugger, forgot to end the blockquote. You know it’s me saying that though.

    OCO, go to bed and stop being such a crabby old bloke. And the rest of you, especially you IT.
    Stop being so boring and dull and witless. And so impolite too. When I return I expect to see some improvement. In about eight hours, but only for a while as I have a BBQ to attend. Sleep tight, petals.

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s someone who has some skin in this game and should but is so mathematically challenged he can’t…

    As I’ve posted above, I live in a part of the world where there are a lot of ex- servicemen. At least four of them are Viet Nam veterans – National Servicemen – who have paid in what the French Army calls “the smashed porcelain.” They are far worse off then Numbers Ho will ever be, yet none of them ever whinges as much. It’s a privilege to know them.

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahaa.

    Part 1 – I invented Mechanics Maths for Tards in 1962, so I won’t deign to reply to that obvious question.
    Part 2 – Enough to describe each one in every letter I wrote home.
    Part 3 – Enough to deliver nice ambivalent beige socialism to the poor noggies who didn’t know better.
    PS: I write for an audience.

  55. Lazlo

    Have lurked around here, off and on, for nearly a decade. It used to be vibrant. But recently the bile and pile-ons are making it little different to the leftist twitter-sewer. Shame about that.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkA7xQb6uPk</blockquote

    Turn it up loud, tell your neighbors to go to Hell.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘you guys need to up your game to pull in the Kittehs.’

    Still the spokeschick for an entire gender. In eight hours hopefully Iampudenda will turn up and we can have a civilised discussion on the Yamnya and who’s on the left. Raise the tone a bit donchaknow.

    Pouchy still won’t have gone to bed.

  58. Zyconoclast

    Intricate part of our culture’: Online porn viewing trebles in three years

    Dr Maginn also found city dwellers watched more online porn than regional Australians, with 93 per cent of traffic to Pornhub coming from Australia’s five biggest cities, which account for about 70 per cent of the country’s population.

    Dr Maginn said the type of pornography viewed across Australia was broadly similar, with lesbian-themed porn the most popular type in the heterosexual section of the site. His analysis, presented to the State of Australian Cities Conference in Perth earlier this month, also revealed a growing interest in categories such as Japanese and Asian.

    In essence, the majority of the categories of porn viewed across Australian cities reflect heteronormative sexual preferences and interests,” he said.

    “Lesbian and threesome porn being ranked quite highly speaks to classic stereotypical heterosexual male sexual fantasies.”

    Dr Maginn also found subtle differences in the category of pornography viewed in Australia’s capital cities, with transgender among the most popular in Adelaide and Brisbane. Canberra was the only city where female friendly porn was among the most viewed.

  59. Mitch M.

    Study probing visual memory, amblyopia unveils many-layered mystery

    Thankfully they call it a mystery because the results are totally puzzling to me. It is one of those findings that needs to be investigated again and again because it is potentially pointing to a deeper understanding of how the neocortex functions.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    KD.
    One missing piece of the puzzle was something said by Jones.
    That is, that the five-star fuckwits running the clown show started to twig that delicate Plod info was being leaked to crooks by Gobbo.
    I did comment to Mrs L that I thought the whole concept of informing was that the information flowed from the informer to Plod. The informer then gets cash, warm thanks or maybe a concession on other legal matters.
    Information doesn’t flow from Plod to the informer.
    That would be very silly because, by their very nature, informants are untrustworthy pond scum.
    Nicola fits that bill perfectly.
    Now, is it possible that “someone” in VikPol fed Nicola seed info – fact or fiction – to be planted in fertile ground (say, a crook looking for a reduction of time in HM Barwon), who then rings up a Plod to report his startling intel.
    But it seems the seed info was falling into the “wrong” hands.
    I just can’t for the life of me think of anyone within VikPlod who is that fucking stupid (cough, cough).

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All I was saying was that the ‘I’m bored entertain me’ foot-stamping routine sounded rather petulant and self-centred.

    Dear me.

    We are mis-matched.

    Je suis desole.

    FFS. Get some self-awareness.

    I am extremely self-aware. Please do not doubt that.

    You haven’t got a clue about me; just live with it and you’ll get by.

    IT can stop digging unpleasantly at me, and I will not need to respond.
    I consider that I have been very generous to IT and have said I will leave it at that.
    A transistor is not all that much of a step up from a wireless. Not in today’s lexicon.

  62. Mitch M.

    Have lurked around here, off and on, for nearly a decade. It used to be vibrant. But recently the bile and pile-ons are making it little different to the leftist twitter-sewer. Shame about that.

    +1

  63. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pouchy still won’t have gone to bed.

    Nor will you on current performance.

    Except I’m off now, as I am busy tomorrow with Hairy, while you will still be chasing skirt sans successssss.

  64. Mitch M.

    I am extremely self-aware. Please do not doubt that.

    I prefer Camus, “Forever shall I be a stranger to myself.” Anyway, what’s the point of self-awareness? How can the self know it is knowing itself? What mirror provides such insight?

  65. Porter

    Holy shit. You can still see the stitch marks where they inserted Hillary’s new cheek implants. Shit. She’s going to run again.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks Mitch M. Camus for bed it is. When I did French for the Leaving Certificate having to pick it up from 7 years before at Intermediate Certificate I had to translate a Camus Story in our text, called Contes Moderne. It was about the existential angst of a teacher in a lonely outpost in Algeria. Turned me to reading other Camus.

  67. Infidel Tiger

    Calm down, Lizzie.

    It’s all fun and games until it ends in nipple cripples.

    You Sheilas are so much hard work.

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    She’s going to run again.

    I think she is. The Democrats are desperate and she will run on that, on her ‘give me back my win’ motif that she has never let go of since 2016 and no has any other Democrat. I fear for the US, she could ride in on a ‘second referendum’ playbook.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    Every time.

    ‘you will still be chasing skirt sans successssss.’

    I don’t brag, Liz, because I find it terribly gauche. It’s nice that you’re thinking of me, though.

    Hit those thousand-counters, Pouchy. Except you won’t yet because you’ve got your dear little dander up.

  70. mh

    ‘Intricate part of our culture’: Online porn viewing trebles in three years

    How much has the NBN rollout cost so far?

    Rudd and Conroy have jizz on their hands.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    You Sheilas are so much hard work.

    Sinc needs to open a “Men’s Shed Thread” every week.
    Rule 1 – No sheilas.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s all fun and games until it ends in nipple cripples.

    Don’t confuse me with Ellie. She’s unisex about nipple clamps.
    I am not into pain one little bit. Some guys here may be; but real women have childbirth. 🙂
    Oh, and who is up there a moment ago crapping bullshit about me ‘speaking for others’?
    I speak for myself. I generalize sometimes because that is what language does.
    Connotation and denotation. Basic Philosophy 1. Or Linguistics Semester 2, after phonemes.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    Exactly, LL.

    Apparently those who would know about such things would say that you don’t a) lie to gigs, ie tell them anything to can’t deliver on later, and b) tell them fucking anything.

    The prime decision as to whether a gig’s taken on or not is said to be their motivation. What drives them? What are they after? And the exact same second you lose sight of the fact that each and every informer is a piece of shit selling out those nearest and dearest to them, you’re gorrrrnnn.

    Yeah, you (allegedly) can plant seed information for the purpose of seeing if you get it back in the same state it was delivered, but giving them actual mail and directions on what they should and shouldn’t get up to are rightly verboten.

    Because if you do, you end up nuts deep in a Royal Commission.

  74. Lazlo

    Bugger existentialism Mitch. I recommend Matt Ridley’s The Evolution Of Everything, especially the chapter on The Evolution of the Mind.

    We are physical creatures, no more, no less. When the physical body goes, so does “self awareness”.

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sinc needs to open a “Men’s Shed Thread” every week.
    Rule 1 – No sheilas.

    Happens naturally at Cat meet-ups at the pub. Kittehs gather at one end of the table, Tomcats talk footie at the other. I was sent down by the Convenor to speak to Jupes specifically to restore gender balance. Reminded me of every university committee I ever sat on for such purposes (and there were many) except he is considerably more handsome than most male academics ever were, and far better informed. 🙂

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Basic Philosophy 1. A bit like ‘I write for an audience.’

    Yes, I remember debating Wittgenstein on the Bert Newton Show about stuff and things too. Followed by an apres-contretemps Malthusalem at the Troc, of course.

  77. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yes, I remember debating Wittgenstein on the Bert Newton Show about stuff and things too. Followed by an apres-contretemps Malthusalem at the Troc, of course.

    Of course you do. Evolutionary throwbacks are known for it.

  78. Knuckle Dragger

    Still hasn’t gone to bed.

    There won’t be ‘sucessss’ anywhere at this rate.

  79. struth

    Have lurked around here, off and on, for nearly a decade. It used to be vibrant. But recently the bile and pile-ons are making it little different to the leftist twitter-sewer. Shame about that.

    Sounds like a disgruntled customer.
    I suppose you get what you pay for.
    Didn’t feel the need to add your integrity driven reasoning to the blog, but just to sit back and criticize?

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s nice that you’re thinking of me, though.

    Well, as you see re your intellectual life as described, I definitely have been.

    Not now though, because it really is time for sleep and I count sheep for that as needed, not KD’s hauling themselves back up the evolutionary tree, interesting though such brachiation may be. 🙂

  81. struth

    Your photo is so close to how I’d imagined you to be Lizzie.

  82. Lazlo

    Now this might get me in trouble, but I am merely quoting Monty Python and the University of Wolloomoolloo, Philosophy Department, Rule One: No Pooftahs!

    Bruce was in charge of Logical Positivism, and Bruce was in charge of the sheep dip.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    I have a craving for bananas.

    Non EU-prescribed ones, too.

  84. Mitch M.

    I recommend Matt Ridley’s The Evolution Of Everything, especially the chapter on The Evolution of the Mind.

    Don’t like Ridley. Wagner, Lane, much better. Evolution of the Mind. Ha! I’m not even sure what we mean by Mind. If I want to think about evolution of cognition I’d rather start with Skinner and Sapolsky thanks.

  85. Mitch M.

    Bugger existentialism Mitch.

    The Camus quote was from The Myth of Sisyphus. Nothing existential about. What I appreciated about Camus was his ability to write so concisely and powerfully, almost the antithesis of philosophers.

  86. struth

    I have a craving for bananas.

    Nothing wrong with that.
    As long as it’s due to hunger.

  87. areff

    I have a craving for strong drink.

  88. zyconoclast

    German bishops commit to ‘newly assessing’ Catholic doctrine on homosexuality and sexual morality

    Munich, Germany, Dec 12, 2019 / 02:10 pm (CNA).- The German bishops’ conference has committed to “newly assessing” the universal Church’s teaching on homosexuality, sexual morality in general, as well as the sacraments of ordination and marriage. The commitment comes at the beginning of a controversial two-year “Synodal Process” by the German hierarchy.

    Following consultations in Berlin last week, the chairman of the Marriage and Family Commission of the German bishops’ conference declared that the bishops agreed that homosexuality is a “normal form” of human sexual identity.

    “The sexual preference of man expresses itself in puberty and assumes a hetero- or homosexual orientation,” Berlin’s Archbishop Heiner Koch asserted in a statement released by the bishops’ conference.

    “Both belong to the normal forms of sexual predisposition, which cannot or should be be changed with the help of a specific socialization”.

    Koch went on to say that “developments” made possible by Amoris laetitia, Pope Francis’ exhortation of marriage and the family, the Church must consider the latest scientific and theological insights on human sexuality.

    Four diocesan bishops gathered for formal consultations on the topic “The Sexuality of Man – How should one discuss it scientifically-theologically and judge it ecclesiastically?” in the German capital on Dec 5.

    Archbishop Koch, together with diocesan bishops Franz-Josef Bode of Osnabrück, Bishop Wolfgang Ipolt of Görlitz, Bishop Peter Kohlgraf of Mainz, as well as several auxiliary bishops from the Faith and Family Commission of the bishops’ conference consulted with a number of invited medical specialists, theologians and canon lawyers during the event.

    Calling for a “solid discussion supported by human sciences and theology” Koch and Bode said that Amoris Laetitia already provides for noticeable “developments” of both Church doctrine and practice, adding that a sexual relationship for divorced and remarried couples after Amoris laetitia “was no longer always to be qualified as grave sin,” and that wholesale “exclusion from the reception of the Eucharist” of such couples could no longer be justified.

    Koch said that the “Synodal Process” should must begin from an “unbiased” position on the Church’s teaching and without fixed points of view, but rather an openness to taking into account “latest scientific insights”.

    All participants, according to Koch, agreed that “human sexuality encompasses a dimension of lust, of procreation, and of relationships.” And since sexual orientation was to be considered unchangeable, “any form of discrimination of persons with a homosexual orientation” was to be rejected, as was “explicitly stressed by Pope Francis” in Amoris laetitia.

    According to a press release issued by the bishops, there was also discussion on whether the prohibition of homosexual acts by the Church’s magisterium was “still up-to-date” – and whether artificial contraception should still be condemend by the Chuch for “both married and unmarried” couples.

    The results of the “expert consultation” in Berlin will be fed in to the “Synodal Process” through the synodal forum on “Life in Successful Relationships – Living Love in Sexuality and Partnership”, will begin its work in February 2020.

    Coinciding with the opening of the Synodal Process, several diocesan and national Catholic associations funded by the German Church tax, or Kirchensteuer, have made public demands for changes to the Church’s teaching and practice on similar issues.

    Calls for “reform” range from the blessing of homosexual unions to the priestly ordination of women, and, in at least one local group’s case, for the approval of abortion when “a woman or couple decided to go through with it.”

  89. Knuckle Dragger

    Apparently Roger Moore is dead.

    Probably a Remainer anyway.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Steve Martin & Martin Short.

    Absolutely brilliant. So funny in an old school sense. No swearing.

  91. I just can’t for the life of me think of anyone within VikPlod who is that fucking stupid (cough, cough).

    Refining the search parameters to those only of the rank of Inspector & above should provide fertile results.

  92. calli

    An ‘at sea’ day here. Forty eight degrees south somewhere between Stanley and Montevideo. The sea is calm, the weather fine.

    Stanley was an eye-opener. They were all pleased as punch and upbeat over the Boris victory. More British than the British. Which you would be if, one winter morning you opened your front door to the sight of Argie personnel carriers charging down your street. They’re not going to forget that in a hurry, especially when the buggers left behind tens of thousands of landmines. There are still no-go areas on the islands and they estimate around 10,000 still remain buried. the penguins are too light to set them off, but tough on the occasional sheep. Paths are clearly signposted.

    The village is a mixture of timber and ‘wriggly tin’ (corrugated iron) all painted and tidy, with gardens and picket fences.

    Margaret Thatcher watches over the bay, looking towards the Straits just in case a wandering warship tries to enter. They love her. To her left, Britannia with a trident tops the memorial to the many who made the ultimate sacrifice. The museum has a film of interviews with children, giving the 74 days from their perspective. A lot of my fellow passengers had no idea about the Argentinians and ‘the disappeared’. Edumacation with my heavy duty cluebat was a pleasure.

    As usual, the most telling thing about the advance of civilisation came with the sanitation – clean public loos and no basket of filthy toilet paper in the cubicle. And another thing…ladies in the church with an English tea. Scones, biscuits and other good things for a small donation. Just like home.

    I suspect Stanley is the furthest Outpost of Empire. And it shows.

  93. Mitch M.

    Coinciding with the opening of the Synodal Process, several diocesan and national Catholic associations funded by the German Church tax, or Kirchensteuer, have made public demands for changes to the Church’s teaching and practice on similar issues.

    Couldn’t understand why anyone in the Catholic Church was considering the mentioned changes until I read the above paragraph. Money. I wonder if some government officials have whispered in various bishops’ ears that the tax might change if they don’t change their attitude towards homosexuality.

  94. calli

    Oh, and The Beloved and I brought a rare day of sunshine to the islands, just as we always bring a week of summer to London.

    They should pay us to visit.

  95. calli

    I have a craving for strong drink.

    Naturally I bought gin at the islands’ only distillery. Very very good, made with some of the local botanicals.

    My shares went up when asked if I’d like to sample it with some tonic and my answer was, “No. Neat please.”

  96. Cold-Hands

    Eat 6kg? of stone fruit in a single serve and a potential exists for harm. Not proven and who would eat kilos at a time?

    A king of England? King John was supposed to have died from a surfeit of peaches (probably not 6 kg worth, though).

  97. Zatara

    Coinciding with the opening of the Synodal Process, several diocesan and national Catholic associations funded by the German Church tax, or Kirchensteuer, have made public demands for changes to the Church’s teaching and practice on similar issues.

    Really? How about taking it down the strasse to the nearest mosque and see how forcing them to preach homosexuality plays there.

    We could sell tickets to that.

  98. calli

    I thought of this song as I looked at the displays and photos in the Stanley museum. It was written for the Faulklands War, but it describes the lot of the soldier.

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    Interesting story:

    Australian election strategist Isaac Levido hailed for Conservative victory (14 Dec)

    Not bad for a guy from Port Macquarie.

  100. Maybe the German Catholic hierarchy see an opportunity to get a good jump on their old enemies the Lutherans. To pull back lapsed oldies and attract recruits from the younger woke-inclined. If their congregations boom, they might lay claim to the churches they lost in the Reformation. On another point, building stronger Christian churches may be the best antidote to pestilent Muslies.

  101. Muddy – maybe this is already in the Catdictionary (and do I have that right?)

    Hip-opcracy : the quasi-religious vision of moral purity preached by Thunberg et al.

  102. Mater

    Mater’s Meteorology Challenge Update

    Predictions for High in Horsham for Fri 20 Dec 2019
    Currently Time: D-5

    Weather.com.au:
    After coming out of the blocks strongly yesterday, weather.com.au has decided to adjust biggly in the earlier stages, dropping its forecast max from 42 down to 38 degrees.

    YR App:
    In constraint to weather.com, YR has decided to draw claret from the young filly, lean on the whip, and attempt an early rails run by increasing yesterday’s forecast of 39 degrees to a respectable 42.

    WeatherZone:
    Taking a more steady (and surreptitious) approach, Weatherzone has made some subtle alterations in it’s forecast by giving the temperature curve for Friday a slightly sharper appearance (top still looking to be around 47). They have also slightly narrowed the Error Band. The prediction that the local cockies will have sweat running down the crack of their arses, remains largely unchanged.

    1500 hrs – 44 (Yesterday’s – 44.8)
    1600 hrs – 44.9 (Yesterday’s – 45.3)
    1700 hrs – 45.6 (Yesterday’s – 45.6)
    1800 hrs – 44.8 (Yesterday’s – 44.7)

    Error bar – 42->48 (Yesterday’s – 41->49)

  103. calli

    I know it’s Sunday morning, but geez you guys are slackers!

    As it’s Thermogeddon! back home, I had a quick look at the weather report. A balmy 23 degrees, rising to 27 on Thursday. How about that. At worst, the begonias might be singed.

    On the Grotesque Greta, I haven’t yet met a soul who takes her seriously. And for those on the ship who wring their hands over da climate, I ask innocently, “Then why are you here? ” It works.

  104. Porter

    Four aging German virgins pronounce on human sexuality. Because billions of human beings have not been able to work out how to make babies throughout history. These Catholics are such clowns.

  105. calli

    And while I’m on usurious ship’s internet, any Smiting Updates? Ta.

  106. Porter

    This is both hilarious and disturbing: https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/12/Screen-Shot-2019-12-11-at-8.14.47-PM.png
    It should be plastered all over social media. If the leftist complain one should ask why this is unacceptable for Pol Tot but acceptable for every girl who has had to endure it in reality.

  107. RobK

    Calli,
    any Smiting Updates? Ta.
    Some punters have on occasion been behaving like toxoplasmosis ridden rats tempting a cat but to my knowledge no one has been smitten, but I may have missed something.

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Porter, it is photoshopped. The original does not have Biden doing his schtick.

    If it is the photoshopping you find objectionable over the image of a child, well, take it up with her parents. They are the ones putting her in the firing line for all sorts of lampooning and later regret as an adult.

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And for those on the ship who wring their hands over da climate, I ask innocently, “Then why are you here? ” It works.

    Well done, Calli. The innocent but pointed question always works well. 🙂

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry, Porter, I may have misread you. I am in the middle of breakfast.
    You clearly realise it is a spoof and make a good point re that. Yes, spread it far and wide.

  111. P

    Philippa Martyr: Who will fill the future pews?
    December 13, 2019

    But the real question is: what will the Church in Australia look like once the Boomers are gone?
    Who will remain? And what will they believe?

  112. OldOzzie

    Lizzie

    let me try and expand the conversation – what follows is a perfect descriptio of Australia as it is now – years ahead of Bloomberg’s proposal with Matthew Kean is the NSW Minister for Energy and Environment chanting what the Photio’s required of him to enhance their Green Lobby Business

    Is Michael Bloomberg a Chinese Asset? His Coal War Says “Maybe”

    Michael Bloomberg just declared war on coal. Or … re-declared war on coal? Is “re-declare” a word? I’m going to assert that it is, and the onus is on you to prove me wrong.

    Bloomberg said:

    The president refuses to lead on climate change, so the rest of us must. I’ve been all-in on this fight for more than a decade — and having helped close more than half the nation’s dirty coal plants, having cut New York City’s carbon footprint by 14 percent, having led a coalition of cities, states, and businesses committed to the Paris Agreement, I know that we can win.

    That’s gonna win Mikey-Mike a LOT of friends among those coupla-few Americans who work for a living: “I was instrumental in flushing tens of thousands of jobs. If you elect me, I’m gonna hit the handle again and give you guys the full swirly!”

    But on to China. As reported in Engineering & Technology:

    [A] study carried out by Global Energy Monitor, Greenpeace and the Sierra Club, claims that China could add 290GW in new coal-fired plants – exceeding the 261GW capacity of the entire US coal-power fleet in 2018. The findings of the report collide with the country’s previous pledges to build a power supply that is increasingly reliant on renewable energies.

    Notice the word “add”? What these organizations are telling us is that, in the next few years, the Chinese are going to complete and start using as many new coal power plants as the entire United States has NOW. They weren’t going to do that before, but now they are. Well darn.

    Waitaminute: Didn’t some famous reality TV star and hotel developer declare a while back that the Chinese would renege on the Paris Climate Fantasy and their pinky-swear promise to go all green? Didn’t that guy say the Chinese would pretend to play ball and get us to mothball our plants, then do whatever they wanted themselves? His name was something like Drumpf, or Gump, or Thump …

    I’m not a climate scientist. I want to make that clear. I look up the forecast on The Weather Channel one leg at a time, just like regular folk. But I’m pretty sure “the climate” doesn’t recognize borders. If greenhouse gases belch out in China, it has the same effect on trapping heat as if they belch out here. Stopping our coal plants will be like bailing out the boat with a beer mug while the Chinese are punching holes in the hull with an industrial augur.

    Assuming for a moment anthropogenic climate change is absolute truth and Al Gore is Jeremiah, stopping our plants won’t matter much. But here’s what it WILL do: China will have a robust source of cheap electricity while we scramble to put up enough solar panels to boil water and our bills go through the roof.

    To quote the something-or-other-winning artist Kendrick Lamar: “Damn …”

    Here’s a prediction for you: Mikey-Mike will receive all kinds of low-key assistance from the Chinese to snag the Democratic nomination and win the 2020 election. the Chinese are going to LIKE this guy. Bloomberg is promising to fiddle on a sustainable and ethically-harvested violin while America doesn’t burn anything, and the Chinese have an economic cook-off.

    If you thought growth under Brobama was cold, wait until Grandpa Thunberg turns down the thermostat and tears off the nob. When electricity increase to two arms and a leg, the average citizen will absorb all the costs. Not only will it cost more to run the blender, but everything else that requires electricity will become more expensive: food, services, manufactured goods.

    And speaking of manufactured goods: where do you think manufacturing will move in an effort to cut costs when prices go up here? Hmmm … China: cheap. American: expensive as hell. Tough decision.

    “I don’t think of myself as rich” will afford the hikes just fine. Heck, the taxpayer will be footing his electricity bill once he moves into the White House.

  113. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Keep the reports coming Calli.
    Loving it.
    Loving it.

  114. Nick

    WIP makes a good point, why not the young of HK as Time’s people of the year?

  115. Bubbles

    Nothing, but nothing better defines the Left’s contempt for the proles, and uncontrollable compulsion to create false memes to distort reality, than the squeal by almost every Lefty loser turfed out by their electorate than:

    “I am deeply concerned for my constituents futures”.

    You can’t win against that level of ideological arrogance. It’s the stuff that justified Uncle Ho murdering three generations of his countrymen in order to save them.

    “Jeremy campaigned on an excellent manifesto, it was the …….. insert blame”.

  116. struth

    “I am deeply concerned for my constituents futures”.

    They obviously were too.
    Funny about that.
    Now fuck off.

  117. Porter

    Bruce, Isaac is a product of the Crosby Textor school of “conservatives don’t matter.” While I applaud the Boris win, I’m under no illusion: it was not a conservative win and Boris will not be a conservative PM. If he delivers on Brexit, it will be a huge win for Britain but it won’t be a full clean Brexit.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    RobK, the rats were hunting in a pack last night. I called in as a tired lurker merely to kick at one biting my ankles gratuitously and without provocation from me, who was quietly lurking, only to find the pack descend and I had to fight back against rat-attack central. It is neither pleasant nor necessary for a group of drunks to pile in on one single Kitteh whose only defense against such a mob is to throw the stones back hard.

    Eschewing the Open Forum and sticking to the main threads is another possible tactic. But then I would miss things that are worthwhile here, including Calli’s tours and Bruce’s birdies, and also the pleasures of sharing with more civilized Cats my own observations about many socio-political things that get interspersed here into the passing parade of intense economic theory. 🙂

  119. Nick

    Surge in support for Scottish National Party in UK election set to renew calls for a second Scottish independence referendum as Nicola Sturgeon demands new powers.

    The ability to appear in human form and speak English would be a good start.

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Luckily, I did have an advantage last night. I was stone cold sober, and no-one else was. 😀

  121. calli

    I shouldn’t mock youse all for being Sunday morning slack. I nearly missed the “rounding of the Horn”.

    A slight change in the ship’s motion alerted me in the wee hours that we were out of calm waters and in the southern ocean. A quick tweak of the curtains (it is daylight here from 3am) and there it was…portside and the sunlight on its slopes. What a moment.

    I have stood off Cape of Good Hope in a Zodiac, now the Horn in something slightly larger. In beautiful, calm, perfect weather. I have truly led a charmed life.

    This year, courtesy of debbildebbil carbins, I have traveled from the Arctic Circle, through Panama to The Horn. An (almost) circumnavigation. And I have followed my great great grandfather on his magnificent journey with Charles Darwin, albeit in reverse.

  122. Bubbles

    The Beeb is not maintaining the standard set by their colonial cousins.
    It took only 24 hours after the election for the ABC to implement their ‘get Abbott’ plan. The Beeb hasn’t moved on the hated BJ yet.
    Perhaps Johnson’s hint of getting rid of the Beeb tax is giving them pause.

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well done, Calli. And may you do more such good work for the planet and for your own happiness and our edification. We are off to the Panama and elsewhere in March. Sadly we didn’t quite Round the Horn, had to take the Straits of Magellan, so your vision of it is the best I have, and it is marvelous.

  124. Nick

    Pirate Pete

    Aside from Tony Abbott, who will want to cling to ‘Little Britain’?

    Is there anything sadder than the smug, whining about a democratic result in a country they neither voted in or actually live in ?

  125. OldOzzie

    Nick
    #3262121, posted on December 15, 2019 at 8:51 am
    WIP makes a good point, why not the young of HK as Time’s people of the year?

    Does Time Have Business Motives For Not Awarding Hong Kong Protesters ‘Person Of The Year’?
    Capitalism may be dead to Time owner Mark Benioff, but not to the Hong Kong protesters.

    In fact, Time conducted a “Person of the Year” reader poll, and the Hong Kong protesters won—but the editors chose differently. Why?

    The leftist bias within corporate media has become so garish and absurd that there is little anticipation it won’t use any opportunity to puff up the left agenda. While Thunberg was certainly a strong contender for “Person of the Year,” a few people noted that Time had missed a sound opportunity to voice unequivocal support for various groups of people around the world who have been tirelessly–and at the risk of life and limb–protesting their oppressive regimes.

    Time could have given the award to the protesters in Iran, who, spurred by a rise in oil prices, took to the streets to protest the corruption of the Iranian regime, which continues to spend hundreds of millions each year funding terrorist proxies in the hopes of expanding Iranian hegemony in the region. Or they could have given the award to the reader-chosen Hong Kong protesters, who have spent months opposing an extradition bill that had come to symbolize the tightening of Beijing’s control over the democratic beacon of Asia.

    A little sleuthing on the Twitter feed of Stephen Miller, host of “Versus Media” podcast, and some digging amongst the annals of Federalist articles reveals that the latest purchaser of Time magazine is none other than Marc Benioff, the SalesForce tycoon who made waves for pulling business out of Indiana after the state passed religious liberty protections akin to those offered on a federal level. As Mollie Hemingway of The Federalist noted at the time, 18 other states had similar protections in place at the time. No word from Benioff on refusing to do business with them, or nationally due to the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

    Benioff’s patronage is relevant here because SalesForce announced this past summer that it would be partnering the world’s largest e-commerce company, Alibaba Group Holdings Ltd. Alibaba is based in China and offers SalesForce an entry into the Chinese software market. Back in July, Alibaba announced in a blog post that it would be “the exclusive provider of Salesforce to customers in mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, and Salesforce will become the exclusive enterprise CRM product suite sold by Alibaba.”

    Thus, given Benioff’s newfound ties to the Chinese tech giant, the decision not to award the title of “Person of the Year” to the Hong Kong protesters makes perfect sense. As Christopher Ashley Ford, assistant secretary of the U.S. State Department’s bureau of international security and nonproliferation, noted at a Washington conference back in September, “Whether de facto or de jure, such [tech] giants can in some important respects or for some purposes act as arms of the state—or, more precisely, the Chinese Communist Party, to which the Chinese state apparatus is itself subordinate.”

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Surge in support for Scottish National Party in UK election set to renew calls for a second Scottish independence referendum as Nicola Sturgeon demands new powers.

    Here’s what I said about this late last nite. I doubt they will trouble Boris too much:

    If the Scottish think that France and Spain, with all of their separatist problems of Basques and Catalans, are going to welcome The Hogmanny Folk with open arms into the EU if they break from the UK, when these two member states are frantically avoiding their own separatist issues and have big say in who joins the EU, then they have another think coming. If they break, the Scots will be a mendicant state looking for a benefactor. Good luck with that.

  127. OldOzzie

    Nick
    #3262121, posted on December 15, 2019 at 8:51 am
    WIP makes a good point, why not the young of HK as Time’s people of the year?

    Does Time Have Business Motives For Not Awarding Hong Kong Protesters ‘Person Of The Year’?
    Capitalism may be dead to Time owner Mark Benioff, but not to the Hong Kong protesters.

    In fact, Time conducted a “Person of the Year” reader poll, and the Hong Kong protesters won—but the editors chose differently. Why?

    The leftist bias within corporate media has become so garish and absurd that there is little anticipation it won’t use any opportunity to puff up the left agenda. While Thunberg was certainly a strong contender for “Person of the Year,” a few people noted that Time had missed a sound opportunity to voice unequivocal support for various groups of people around the world who have been tirelessly–and at the risk of life and limb–protesting their oppressive regimes.

    Time could have given the award to the protesters in Iran, who, spurred by a rise in oil prices, took to the streets to protest the corruption of the Iranian regime, which continues to spend hundreds of millions each year funding terrorist proxies in the hopes of expanding Iranian hegemony in the region. Or they could have given the award to the reader-chosen Hong Kong protesters, who have spent months opposing an extradition bill that had come to symbolize the tightening of Beijing’s control over the democratic beacon of Asia.

    A little sleuthing on the Twitter feed of Stephen Miller, host of “Versus Media” podcast, and some digging amongst the annals of Federalist articles reveals that the latest purchaser of Time magazine is none other than Marc Benioff, the SalesForce tycoon who made waves for pulling business out of Indiana after the state passed religious liberty protections akin to those offered on a federal level. As Mollie Hemingway of The Federalist noted at the time, 18 other states had similar protections in place at the time. No word from Benioff on refusing to do business with them, or nationally due to the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

    Benioff’s patronage is relevant here because SalesForce announced this past summer that it would be partnering the world’s largest e-commerce company, Alibaba Group Holdings Ltd. Alibaba is based in China and offers SalesForce an entry into the Chinese software market. Back in July, Alibaba announced in a blog post that it would be “the exclusive provider of Salesforce to customers in mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, and Salesforce will become the exclusive enterprise CRM product suite sold by Alibaba.”

    Thus, given Benioff’s newfound ties to the Chinese tech giant, the decision not to award the title of “Person of the Year” to the Hong Kong protesters makes perfect sense. As Christopher Ashley Ford, assistant secretary of the U.S. State Department’s bureau of international security and nonproliferation, noted at a Washington conference back in September, “Whether de facto or de jure, such [tech] giants can in some important respects or for some purposes act as arms of the state—or, more precisely, the Chinese Communist Party, to which the Chinese state apparatus is itself subordinate.”

  128. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    why not the young of HK as Time’s people of the year?

    +1000

    These are the brave and they want to be free. Yoof with a genuine cause, prepared to die for it.
    They have made an impact too, and perhaps halted a little of the Chinese boot.
    The whole world has been watching and admiring not laughing (as they have at Greta).

  129. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    who will want to cling to ‘Little Britain’?

    The majority of Australians who want to be part of the anglosphere.
    There’s virtue in that, as well as riches.

  130. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3262143, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:16 am
    why not the young of HK as Time’s people of the year?

    +1000

    I’ll try again

    Does Time Have Business Motives For Not Awarding Hong Kong Protesters ‘Person Of The Year’?

    Capitalism may be dead to Time owner Mark Benioff, but not to the Hong Kong protesters.

    In fact, Time conducted a “Person of the Year” reader poll, and the Hong Kong protesters won—but the editors chose differently. Why?

  131. OldOzzie

    How The IG FISA Abuse Report Affects Michael Flynn’s Case

    ‘Far too many in the FBI and DOJ are willing to hide evidence, falsify documents and make up crimes to achieve their objectives.’

  132. calli

    There’s virtue in that, as well as riches.

    And, as I mentioned up thread, clean loos.

    Clearly the person who rubbished the Anglosphere hasn’t traveled much, poor soul.

  133. OldOzzie

    Watched with Grandson in Melbourne at 1200 Friday

    The Grand Tour – Seaman

    Numbers should like

    because – Clarkson rebuilt a Vietnam War-era patrol boat (PRB), the better to indulge his Apocalypse Now fantasies.

  134. Overburdened

    Noting the latest dispatches, it seems that the resistance has begun in the UK, as per predictions.

    FWIW I reckon the poms should rehabilitate Hadrians Wall, ban any travel to or from Scotland and allow starvation and the already well progressed inbreeding to wipe out the existing population then ship all disgruntled immigrants in England there with the wall and travel ban still in place.

    That Sturgeon woman is a mean spirited pos, emblematic of her constituents.

  135. Rockdoctor

    LOL Quakers Hill has the same problem as Townsville. Nearly ran 3 kids of ‘the first nations’ types over just walking in front of traffic abusing & taunting them on Quakers Hill pwy… Playing frogger on a 3 lane rd sooner or later will get you squashed…

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ohh, coffee please.
    These silly late nites spent battling drunken old guys are robbing me of muh beauty sleep.

    Sinc, please put up reminder signs, no entry for Kittehs after 10pm.

    Age obviously stakes a claim on us all, but as St. Augustine said, not yet please Lord.
    Even though he was talking about goodness in not chasing da girls, not about beauty sleep, 😉

  137. Overburdened

    As an angry Scotsman (as is typical) advises when asked why he jumped a ship to Australia when he was 17, ‘I decided that if I was going to fuck me life I would do it on my own’.

  138. Overburdened

    Autocorrect is attacking with a vengeance this morning, but hopefully you get my drift.

  139. calli

    Overburdened, he moment I heard Spurgeon’s b/s I advised Boris (via my VRWC mind control techniques) to cut them loose and watch the fried Mars Bars munchers sink.

  140. cohenite

    Mater
    #3262082, posted on December 15, 2019 at 7:38 am
    Mater’s Meteorology Challenge Update

    Yesterday’s heatwave in Perth:

    10 – 36.3C
    11 – 37.6C
    12 – 39.0C
    13 – 40.1C
    14 – 41.0C
    15 – 40.0C (forecast)

    Previous heatwaves:

    December 1882

    10 – 33.9C
    11 – 43.2C
    12 – 31.7C
    13 – 36.1C
    14 – 43.9C
    15 – 41.8C

    December 1885

    21 – 36.7C
    22 – 35.6C
    23 – 38.3C
    24 – 37.2C
    25 – 40.0C
    26 – 41.7C
    31 – 40.6C

    December 1899

    10 – 34.1C
    11 – 37.9C
    12 – 38.2C
    13 – 40.3C
    14 – 40.3C
    15 – 38.2C

    Unprecedented my arse.

  141. mh

    Wow

    Rep. Jeff Van Drew, a moderate Democrat who is strongly opposed to impeaching President Donald Trump, is expected to switch parties and become a Republican, according to multiple sources familiar with the situation.

    Van Drew is one of two Democrats who voted against opening the impeachment inquiry into Trump and has remained against the effort, even as the House prepares to vote to impeach the president next week. Van Drew’s decision comes after a meeting with Trump on Friday…

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/14/jeff-van-drew-change-parties-085036

  142. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    FWIW I reckon the poms should rehabilitate Hadrians Wall, ban any travel to or from Scotland and allow starvation and the already well progressed inbreeding to wipe out the existing population then ship all disgruntled immigrants in England there with the wall and travel ban still in place.

    This time if there is another referendum the Scots living in England MUST have a vote. That’ll fix it.

    Do it by birthplace. LOL. That means I can vote, having been born in Glasgow before its reinvention. If needed, I’ve probably lived in England’s north long enough to qualify by residence.
    I have an NHS card too. Ya can’t get more British than that.

  143. Some History

    The Guardian, self-proclaimed purveyor of “facts”, pulls off a complete inversion – Greta, with her “controlled” anger, is battling the “snowflakes”.

    Greta Thunberg: emotional incontinents like Trump can’t cope with her controlled anger

    The activist had the perfect riposte to the president’s peevish jealousy when she was named Time’s person of the year
    If only we could bottle (reusables) and distribute Greta Thunberg’s ability to neutralise the ire of men who should know better.
    “Greta must work on her Anger Management problem,” he tweeted, showing as little regard for the correct use of capital letters as he does for the peril the planet finds itself in. Thunberg, perpetually unfazed, responded by changing her Twitter bio to “A teenager working on her anger management problem…” Please note the lower case.
    Obviously, Thunberg is angry. Her speeches are about how angry she is. She is livid that she is the one to have to keep telling the world about the crisis it is facing. “People are underestimating the force of angry kids,” she told reporters on her arrival back in Europe at the start of December. Even Jeremy Clarkson, who called her a “spoilt brat” in September, offered his congratulations on the Time cover, “from the old dinosaur”, though he did manage to state that her dreams were unrealistic at the same time.
    It is striking that Thunberg has achieved so much, so quickly, at such an age, but framing this as an intergenerational war is a distraction. The science tells us that there is no time for this. The election of a prime minister who did not think a crucial television debate on the climate crisis worth his time, and a government whose environmental manifesto promises were described by Friends of the Earth as “in sector after sector… invariably weaker than the other parties, entirely absent or just plain bad”, tells us there is no time for this. Thunberg is right to be furious.

    Her anger is what seems to most trigger the sensitive snowflakes of far-right politics. Trump, a man whose whole state of being is so nuclear-head-emoji that he actually looks like one, uses her fury as his default starting point for insults. When she tweeted about anti-indigenous violence in the Amazon, Jair Bolsonaro called Thunberg “pirralha”, a little brat. She changed her Twitter bio then, too. Her ability to contain her rage for the moments when it counts, rather than throwing it away on a hostile response to bullying babies, is remarkable. She doesn’t need anger management. She’s managing it perfectly well.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/14/emotional-incontinents-like-trump-cannot-cope-with-greta-thunberg-controlled-anger

  144. Tom

    In fact, Time conducted a “Person of the Year” reader poll, and the Hong Kong protesters won—but the editors chose differently. Why?

    Yet another outlet run by leftards that loathes its readers — and democracy. Time is much more comfortable as the useful idiot of the Chinese Communist Party dictatorship.

  145. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    Like a dog chasing a car, what would you do if you caught it?

    I admire people’s tenacity to have ongoing debate that will never persuade the other side.

    It needs to be said that the motivation is more about putting oneself out there than winning an argument.

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    RUOK Lizzie? Seriously.

    I’m absolutely fine, Snoopy.
    Can’t see why you would think otherwise. One doesn’t die of sleep loss.
    I did get only five hours worth of sleep as Hairy also wanted to chat.
    But thank you for caring. He’s fine too. 🙂

  147. Nick

    Lol, Thunberg’s ‘controlled anger’. I love the pic this week where she is doing the death stare.

  148. JC

    Snoopy
    #3262160, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:33 am

    RUOK Lizzie? Seriously.

    You ought to be asking Cronite. Seriously! He’s putting up random temps.

    cohenite
    #3262162, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:33 am

    Yesterday’s heatwave in Perth:

    10 – 36.3C
    11 – 37.6C
    12 – 39.0C
    13 – 40.1C
    14 – 41.0C
    15 – 40.0C (forecast)

    10 – 33.9C
    11 – 43.2C
    12 – 31.7C
    13 – 36.1C
    14 – 43.9C
    15 – 41.8C

    21 – 36.7C
    22 – 35.6C
    23 – 38.3C
    24 – 37.2C
    25 – 40.0C
    26 – 41.7C
    31 – 40.6C

    10 – 34.1C
    11 – 37.9C
    12 – 38.2C
    13 – 40.3C
    14 – 40.3C
    15 – 38.2C

    From ~ 150 years ago.
    He’s not well at all.

  149. JC

    Thumberg’s mother has a decent rack from what I recall seeing her stripping down in a play she was in.

    Just putting it out there.

  150. BorisG,

    If the Scottish think that France and Spain, with all of their separatist problems of Basques and Catalans, are going to welcome The Hogmanny Folk with open arms into the EU if they break from the UK, when these two member states are frantically avoiding their own separatist issues and have big say in who joins the EU, then they have another think coming. If they break, the Scots will be a mendicant state looking for a benefactor. Good luck with that.

    That is true. Yet the overwhelming support for SMP at the ballot box means scots aspirations need to somehow be adddessed – if we believe in democracy that is. If they are so different from the English then maybe it is prudent to let them be on their own. And whether the EU will embrace them or not is a matter for them really.

  151. thefrollickingmole

    Exclusive leaked footage of ‘Illary getting her facelift.

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I admire people’s tenacity to have ongoing debate that will never persuade the other side.

    There is no ‘other side’ to sheer rudeness and unwarranted and unprovoked attack.
    Nor is there ‘another side’ to piling on when the person being attacked and humiliated fights back.
    If you are being treated like a dog then you bite. I’ve had enough of that with Johanna, who has been an exemplar of sheer domineering aggression which some have sadly seen as an invitation to do the same.

    If there is substantive debate about useful matters, then I am good at persuasion.
    I agree that engaging with a mob of drunks in a pile-on is a bad idea. Needs must, sometimes.

  153. cohenite

    Speaking of random temps, head prefect, take the thermometer out of your arse and put it under your tongue.

  154. Overburdened

    Calli

    Having been to a lot of places that have little going for them, a place where blokes wear dresses, their native music is like pushing feral cats through a chipper and the preferred cuisine is stodgy and constipating with its high points being Athol Brose and offal and porridge boiled in a gut sack, the weather is persistently shitful and the populace resort to physical violence because they can’t articulate a logical debate due to a lack of the command of any language; I would say that I would rank it below other parts of the world where at least you get some sunshine.

  155. cohenite

    The German Gen-IV Dual Fluid Reactor
    A reactor concept of a private German research institute, the Institute for Solid-State Nuclear Physics. Combining the advantages of the molten salt reactor with those of the liquid metal cooled reactor.
    The fuel is a molten solution of actinide chloride salts, while the cooling is provided by molten lead in a separate loop. As a fast breeder reactor, the DFR can use both natural uranium and thorium to breed fissile material, as well as recycle High-level waste and plutonium. Due to the high thermal conductivity of the molten metal, the DFR is an inherently safe reactor (the decay heat can be removed passively).
    If the reactor works as intended, the U-238 of a spent nuclear fuel element of a LWR (about 1 ton) could be completely dissolved in Cl-salt, including the problematic long-living transuranic parts. Complete breeding and fission could power a 1 GW thermal DFR for about 2.5 years. After that time the element would be completely converted into fission products and the need for storage in a final deposition for nuclear waste would be reduced from 1 million to about 300 years.

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=106480466221342

  156. mh

    Thumberg’s mother has a decent rack from what I recall seeing her stripping down in a play she was in.

    Just putting it out there.

    Are you sure, JC?

    https://images.app.goo.gl/zrQ1NC197jXppHvY6

  157. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If they are so different from the English then maybe it is prudent to let them be on their own. And whether the EU will embrace them or not is a matter for them really.

    Agree. Perhaps like silly children or drunken Tomcats though they need to have things spelled carefully spelled out for them. Your namesake Boris should make it a priority to listen to their wails and dry their tears with a very small compensatory cash-box love during a haggis-free period of sobriety where he presents them with the economic facts of their situation.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    A 2014 Scottish referendum voted 55:45 to stay in the UK.
    That is a smashing in democratic terms.

  159. Some History

    And we shouldn’t forget Clover “Proud to be Smoke Free” Moore-Onn.

    Clover blowing a “climate emergency” gasket a few days ago:


    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    Governments belong to people, and if politicians aren’t doing their job, they can get out of the way. Tonight, Councillor
    @jem1ller
    ‘s message to the #SydneyIsChoking climate rally couldn’t have been clearer. Enough it enough. Climate action now.

    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    Our bush is burning. Our city is shrouded in smoke. We demand action.

    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    Angry, fearful, active. Come to Town Hall this afternoon and stand up for climate action.

    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    He’s right that we need urgent action to reduce emissions to address runaway climate change. If we’re to stop this becoming the new normal, we need more members of the state and federal governments joining Minister Kean in committing to action.

    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    .
    @Matt_KeanMP
    is right – the shocking fires, burning at unprecedented levels, show us that climate change is super-charging natural disasters.

    https://twitter.com/CloverMoore?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

  160. Overburdened

    Elizabeth

    You have expressed a true insight into the mind of the Scots.

    Cry havoc for our freedom as long as we keep our NHS cards.

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Overburdened, St. Jerome didn’t like ‘porridge eaters’ much either, as he made clear about the ‘heretic’ Pelagius. In Jerome’s day the Scots and the Irish were interchangeable in Roman minds:

    Pelagius was born about 354-360. He is said by his contemporaries, such as Augustine of Hippo, Prosper of Aquitaine, Marius Mercator, and Paul Orosius, to have been of British origin.[2] Jerome apparently thought that Pelagius was Irish, suggesting that he was “stuffed with Irish porridge” (Scotorum pultibus praegravatus).[3] He was tall in stature and portly in appearance. Pelagius was also highly educated, he spoke and wrote Latin and Greek with great fluency and was well versed in theology. His name has traditionally been understood as a Graecized form (from pélagos, “sea”) of the Welsh name Morgan (“sea-born”), or another Celtic equivalent.[4]
    Pelagius became better known around 380 when he moved to Rome.[5] There he enjoyed a reputation of austerity; he also corresponded with St. Paulinus of Nola.[6] Pelagius became concerned about the moral laxity of society. He blamed this laxity on the theology of divine grace preached by Augustine, among others. He began to teach a very strict, rigid moralism, emphasizing a natural, innate human ability to attain salvation.[7]
    When Alaric sacked Rome in 410, Pelagius and his follower Caelestius fled to Carthage, where he continued his work.[5] He was in Jerusalem by 415.

  162. Overburdened

    Some History

    Clover should put a green ban on westerly winds to stop Sydney getting smoked by bushfires.

  163. BorisG,

    A 2014 Scottish referendum voted 55:45 to stay in the UK.
    That is a smashing in democratic terms.

    Yeh but that was for the union within the EU. The situation has changed now and the election result is a clear evidence of that.

    I feel that if their concerns are not addressed, possibly with another referendum, Scotland will rest of the UK towards socialism for decades to come.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Time to start getting Hairy up and making ready to go out in an hour or two.

    See y’all.

  165. BorisG,

    Damn ipad. Will drag the rest of the UK towards socialism.

  166. Overburdened

    The advantage of fleeing Scotland for Jerusalem would be that the children may not contract Ricketts, unless they are kept indoors due to the clear skies.

  167. BorisG,

    And thinking about it, socialism is always great if someone else is paying. Think Cuba.

  168. OldOzzie

    JC
    #3262174, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:43 am
    Thumberg’s mother has a decent rack from what I recall seeing her stripping down in a play she was in.

    Just putting it out there.

    Yep see

    Di Cupido impiego i vanni (Konstantin Wolff & Malena Ernman & Haendel)

  169. Snoopy

    The German Gen-IV Dual Fluid Reactor

    Where in the world outside of China would the research team get permission to build a prototype?

  170. Overburdened

    Biting the hand that feeds them is a proud socialist tradition.

    Look at the revolutionaries, extremists and disrupters in Australia clamped to the teat of the social welfare system.

  171. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Dr Maginn also found subtle differences in the category of pornography viewed in Australia’s capital cities, with transgender among the most popular in Adelaide and Brisbane.

    cuckoldry confirmed!

  172. Snoopy

    Thumberg’s mother has a decent rack from what I recall seeing her stripping down in a play she was in.

    Just putting it out there.

    Yep see

    Di Cupido impiego i vanni (Konstantin Wolff & Malena Ernman & Haendel)

    Padded bra.

  173. Snoopy

    Spurge, were you at the Sydney Cat catch-up?

  174. OldOzzie

    Some History
    #3262187, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:54 am

    Clover Moore
    @CloverMoore


    Dec 11
    .
    @Matt_KeanMP
    is right – the shocking fires, burning at unprecedented levels, show us that climate change is super-charging natural disasters.

    https://twitter.com/CloverMoore?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Pro-Green coalition backing Matt Kean

    Clarissa Bye, Exclusive, The Daily Telegraph
    December 13, 2019 9:46pm
    Subscriber only

    A pro-green climate change advocacy group linked to Liberal powerbroker Michael Photios is orchestrating a ­behind-the-scenes campaign to back Energy Minister Matt Kean’s controversial push to make NSW carbon-free.

    The group, Coalition for Conservation, has previously lauded Mr Kean for being a “leader” on climate change. It is asking supporters to tweet in support of him and tag Premier Gladys Berejiklian, and to write emails congratulating him on his “leadership” and to copy the praise to the Premier.

    Mr Kean this week came under fire for blaming climate change for the bushfires, and is planning a new extreme government scheme to cut carbon dioxide emissions by 35 per cent.

    Not-for-profit Coalition for Climate’s aim is “to help build a steady drum beat of voices calling for more action to address damage to our climate” by “shifting the conservative side of politics”.

    Kristina Photios, the wife of factional Liberal heavyweight Michael Photios, founded the group and is a former director. Mr and Ms Photios are directors of a government relations firm specialising in renewable energy clients.

    Last week Mr Photios attended the Coalition for Conservation’s Christmas drinks.

    A group spokeswoman yesterday denied it was running a “campaign” supporting Mr Kean, but said “we are asking people to motivate the government” on climate change.

    Mr Photios said he had never held formal roles with Coalition for Conservation, but “I support the Coalition government’s announcement … for stronger action on climate change; consistent with the position taken by C4C”.

  175. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Her ability to contain her rage for the moments when it counts, rather than throwing it away on a hostile response to bullying babies, is remarkable.

    Well, it is remarkably well-orchestrated. I doubt she writes her own tweets and speeches.

    She went into selective mutism when asked a real question during a panel discussion.
    That’s a handy condition to have when you don’t really know much and rely on control by others.

  176. cohenite

    The photios and kean and every other faux liberal/conservative should be drummed out but where is the guts to do that?

  177. OldOzzie

    Birthday bash could spell more legal trouble for Salim Mehajer

    Even when Salim Mehajer tries to do something right, he puts a foot wrong.

    Not long out of the big house after an 11-month stint for electoral fraud, Mehajer threw a birthday bash this month for his girlfriend, Melissa Tysoe, on Sydney Harbour.

    It had all the glitz and glam you’d expect at a Mehajer function – a boat on the water covered with pink and white balloons, dozens of red roses in the shape of the letter M and the birthday girl dressed in a bedazzled gown.

    Laser clay pigeon shooting on-board was meant to be all part of the harmless fun – except when you’re banned from touching a gun, even a fake one.

    Snitch understands police are considering whether to take action against Mehajer for breaching a firearm prohibition order (FPO) after one of the day’s photos featured the former Auburn deputy mayor posing with a look alike sawn-off shotgun used in the laser shooting.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A group spokeswoman yesterday denied it was running a “campaign” supporting Mr Kean, but said “we are asking people to motivate the government” on climate change.

    Can someone please start up an organized group within the Coalition to investigate ‘the science’?

    The reliance on half-baked pieces of here and there grabs from sources not disinterested in pushing the climate barrow really needs to be countered, long, and hard. There is plenty of good counter information out there. Show it to more politicians. Keep it in the public eye. That is the only way to defeat these people who have at heart only the protection of their own interests via a convenient mythology.

  179. egg_

    Pirate Pete

    Aside from Tony Abbott, who will want to cling to ‘Little Britain’?

    Is Bandanaman a character in Little Britain?

  180. egg_

    Is Bandanaman a character in Little Britain?

    Wears @rseless leather chaps?

  181. OldOzzie

    Peta Credlin: Climate change hysterics need a lesson in Australia’s bushfire history

    All the so-called leaders and self-appointed climate guardians blaming the current bushfires on climate change know little of our history – and even less about how indigenous people managed land for tens of thousands of years.

    It’s not climate change that’s caused these bushfires. It’s a severe drought in much of eastern Australia coupled with the reluctance of green-driven councils and government departments to allow hazard reduction burns.

    Prior to European settlement, Aboriginal people would routinely set fire to the bush to keep down undergrowth and to create grazing for kangaroos and other game. It’s why the early settlers described the country they found for the first time as almost parkland.

    Fire-stick-farming still happens in parts of remote Australia. But settlers from Britain, where wildfire had been virtually unknown for centuries, naturally enough, followed their own land management practices without systematic burning – and soon enough catastrophic fires followed.

    The Black Thursday bushfires in Victoria in 1851 killed about 12 people and are thought to have destroyed five million hectares, or about twice the area burnt so far this year in NSW. The 1898 Red Tuesday bushfire, also in Victoria, killed 12 people and destroyed about 2000 buildings. Victorian bushfires across February and March 1926 killed 60 people. The 1939 Black Friday bushfires, also extending over two months, killed 71 people. In another month long Victorian bushfire emergency in 1944, nearly 20 people were killed. In February 1967, the Black Tuesday bushfire in Tasmania killed 62 people. The 1983 Ash Wednesday bushfires in Victoria and South Australia killed 75 people and destroyed about 2500 homes. And the 2009 Black Saturday bushfire in Victoria killed 173 people and destroyed about 4500 buildings.

    So massive bushfires are nothing new in this land of “droughts and flooding rain”. What is relatively new, of course, is climate cult hysteria and the readiness of grant-hungry researchers, headline-hunting MPs, and virtue-signalling business people to attribute every extreme weather event to man-made carbon dioxide emissions. And naturally, those talking about imminent threats are more newsworthy than those saying that there’s “nothing much to see here”.

    Independent Member for Warringah Zali Steggall has said that “people are already dying as a result of climate change”. Picture: AAP/Mick Tsikas

    few months back, the director of the Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes, Professor Andy Pitman, told a climate forum that “this may not be what you expect to hear but as far as the climate scientists know, there is no link between climate change and drought … and if you look at the Bureau of Meteorology data over the whole of the last 100 years there’s been no trend in data … no drying trend in the last 100 years and that’s an expression of how variable the Australian rainfall climate is”.

    Still, despite this, there’s been a veritable conga-line of politicians claiming that the drought-caused fire emergency in some parts of Australia is due to climate change; as if increasing CO2 concentrations were to blame for lightning strikes and arson, and as if closing coal fired power stations would somehow douse the flames.

    Naturally, the climate-change-causes-fires-so-we-must-act-now brigade included Anthony Albanese (despite his latter-day conversion to coal exports), Penny Wong, Adam Bandt, and Malcolm Turnbull (who, let’s never forget, crossed the floor to vote with Labor for Kevin Rudd’s ETS in 2010). Zali Steggall, a somewhat older echo of Greta Thunberg, has said that “people are already dying as a result of climate change”.

    But the climate-change-is-responsible crew also included the federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley, the NSW Transport Minister Andrew Constance, and the NSW Energy and Environment Minister Matt Kean. Presumably, these Coalition ministers would rather just “go with the flow” than risk a Twitter storm by pointing out that it’s wrong to link any particular extreme weather event to climate change.

    While warning against “catastrophism”, even Prime Minister Scott Morrison conceded that climate change was a factor.

    Meanwhile, notwithstanding federal Energy Minister Angus Taylor’s careful elaboration to the Madrid UN climate conference of what Australia is doing to limit emissions, the Climate Action Network’s 2020 Climate Change Performance Index ranked us the world’s “worst performing country on climate change policy”. This can’t be based on what we are actually doing – because unlike the big promisors, we really will meet our emissions reductions targets and have had the world’s largest recent expansion of renewable energy – but the fact that other countries are making extravagant pledges to do much more in the future (despite almost universally failing to deliver their previous commitments).

    It would be a lot easier to take the climate-change-causes-fires alarmists seriously if they were actually doing something themselves to fight the fires; or were demanding that we move to nuclear energy (the only emissions-free source of 24/7 power).

    Two things are clear though: first, as the source of scarcely one per cent of the world’s emissions, nothing we do can make the slightest difference to any CO2 caused climate change (but it can make an enormous difference to prices and jobs here in Australia); and second, it doesn’t matter how much we do, it will never be enough for the climate change true believers.

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    I said to someone the other day that I’d listen to that junior skank Thunberg when she could change an inner tyre on a B double on her own, and not before.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Melanie Zanona
    @MZanona

    CONFIRMED: Democratic Rep. Jeff Van Drew has informed staff he is SWITCHING PARTIES and will become a Republican, following a lengthy meeting w/ Trump.

    And senior Dems have been scrambling to reach him all day.

  184. OldOzzie

    You won’t find a better summary of the UK election than that from Sky’s happy Rita Panahi, who was duly applauded by the British press:

    Short but sweet…. this Australian anchor sums up the UK Election result perfectly! https://t.co/ScK8jMU3K6
    — Julia 🇬🇧 #BorisBrexit! (@JulesSunbeam) December 14, 2019

  185. OldOzzie

    Take the Elizabeth Farrelly Challenge

    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    December 15, 2019 9:27am
    Subscriber only

    Veteran frightbat Elizabeth Farrelly, who once predicted Malcolm Turnbull would be “the longest-serving prime minister since Menzies”, is really angry at something. Can you guess what it might be?

    According to Elizabeth, the source of her fury is …

    … exploitative, cruel, unnatural, plastic-wrapped, wasteful of land and water and dramatically destructive of climate. It’s almost a purpose-designed object lesson in how our innocence itself becomes a form of hubris; how whiteness and purity so easily flip into the opposite of what they want to imply.

    Take your best shot. Answer to follow.

  186. BrettW

    Lizzie,
    That was quick ! Only 13 minutes to wake him and get ready.

    “Time to start getting Hairy up and making ready to go out in an hour or two.

    See y’all”.

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    Lady Elizabeth Wildebeest-Threewood of Glasgow, 8.59 am;

    ‘a group of drunks to pile on one single Kitteh’

    Not really. You decided to put your head in last night to berate all assembled that the discussion at hand wasn’t up to your lofty standards, and proceeded to speak for every lady Cat [again] by proclaiming that we’d have to lift our game to ‘get us Kittehs in’. Then dissembled through generalisation, a la Liability Bob. Again. That must happen to the elderly, I guess.

    Truth is, you blundered in looking for a fight, got one and then proclaimed yourself a victim. Just like every mouthy pillock who’s ever been on the fat end of a pool cue in every pub in the country.

    Yet again with the ‘poor widdle weak women/mighty strong wah wah until I have to prove it then turn to shit’ shtick.

    Grow up, you faux-virtuous nouveau-riche classist old frump.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    The WIP’s screamy anti-DJT chick with the top hat and monocle is priceless, by the way.

  189. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Prior to European settlement, Aboriginal people would routinely set fire to the bush to keep down undergrowth and to create grazing for kangaroos and other game. It’s why the early settlers described the country they found for the first time as almost parkland.

    Fire-stick-farming still happens in parts of remote Australia.

    The BS just goes on and on.

  190. Roger

    [A] few months back, the director of the Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes, Professor Andy Pitman, told a climate forum that “this may not be what you expect to hear but as far as the climate scientists know, there is no link between climate change and drought

    Pfft.

    What would a scientist know?

    I rely on the msm for my views.

  191. Rossini

    Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault
    #3262227, posted on December 15, 2019 at 10:42 am
    ++++1000

  192. Roger

    Yeh but that was for the union within the EU. The situation has changed now and the election result is a clear evidence of that.

    Not really; the SNP vote across the board was 45%.

    I’d wager a second referendum would deliver much the same result as 2014.

  193. Bubbles

    The SNP vote (45%) was identical to the Indy vote (45%).
    Nothing has changed other than them pulling seats out of Labour and SD.
    Tell em F.. em!

  194. lotocoti

    I have stood off Cape of Good Hope in a Zodiac, now the Horn in something slightly larger.

    You are now allowed both elbows on the table.

  195. 8th Dan

    Bonjour.

    Tout le monde n’a pas aimé le samedi soir.

  196. Cactus

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge, is it disposable nappies?

  197. Roger

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge, is it disposable nappies?

    Plastic water bottles?

  198. BorisG,

    A tougher question: why the election result was so different this time from the last time? Everyone on the left is blaming Corbyn radicalism, unpopularity and poor leadership, but Corbyn was the same as last time. The Tory leader has changed but his Brexit deal is almost the same as May’s (and hence strongly opposed by ulster unionists) and other policies are an exact continuation of those of Cameron and may, but with increased health spending. So what has changed exactly?

    Maybe people just like Johnson?

  199. RobK

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge
    Condoms?

  200. Overburdened

    Sturgeon Monkfish lll

    Hillary’s transition to her greatest political hero is nearly complete

    http://www.gdnonline.com/gdnimages/20151124/catwoman.jpg

  201. Tom

    Bugger. The only show I watch on Sky News is off the air for seven weeks: Outsiders is back on Sunday, February 2, 2020. The vacuum will no doubt be filled by Sky’s army of tribal luvvies — the reason I don’t otherwise watch Sky.

  202. Geriatric Mayfly

    Even if the Natives did not burn the Australian bush, lightning would have attended to the matter (and still does.)

  203. JMH

    Grow up, you faux-virtuous nouveau-riche classist old frump.
    + 100.

  204. Overburdened

    Stand by for Jeff Van Drew to be outed as a necrophiliac ped0phile who is a Russian deep plant.

  205. JC

    Snoopy
    #3262203, posted on December 15, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Thumberg’s mother has a decent rack from what I recall seeing her stripping down in a play she was in.

    Just putting it out there.

    Yep see

    Di Cupido impiego i vanni (Konstantin Wolff & Malena Ernman & Haendel)

    Padded bra.

    Naaaa, it may have been surgical inflation. Those aren’t padded bra.

  206. RobK

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge
    Solar panels?

  207. Snoopy

    The BS just goes on and on.

    What in particular is bullshit.

  208. mh

    According to Elizabeth, the source of her fury is …

    … exploitative, cruel, unnatural, plastic-wrapped, wasteful of land and water and dramatically destructive of climate. It’s almost a purpose-designed object lesson in how our innocence itself becomes a form of hubris; how whiteness and purity so easily flip into the opposite of what they want to imply.

    Take your best shot. Answer to follow.

    Dildos?

  209. Roger

    A tougher question: why the election result was so different this time from the last time?

    2017 was probably the most unpopular UK election in recent times. The people regarded it as a cynical ploy and punished May harshly for that.

    There were also two terror attacks during the campaign which allowed Labout to hammer the Tories on police cuts and national security, making Brexit momentarilt a secondary issue.

  210. JC

    cohenite
    #3262180, posted on December 15, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Speaking of random temps, head prefect, take the thermometer out of your arse and put it under your tongue.

    I’m not the person walking around with a thermometer all the time, discussing the weather. Shut up about it, Cronkite. It’s very, very ghey to be babbling about the same shit all the time.

  211. Overburdened

    Tom

    Sky is proof that political colour trumps photogenics.

    Top of the tide, back from stretches, calisthenics and kata then a body surf.

    Waves are rubbish at the mo.

  212. Overburdened

    Cutting to the chase, Farrelly is a cosseted inner city fuckwit with a delusional sense of her own self worth.

  213. RobK

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge
    Single use syringes?

  214. Overburdened

    ….and no sense of irony, given her city lifestyle.

  215. Overburdened

    She couldn’t find her way to the shit house without her GPS.

  216. Roger

    ….and no sense of irony, given her city lifestyle.

    Inner city progs don’t do self-deprecation.

  217. mh

    So Jeff Van Drew was Putin’s puppet all along.

    I wonder which other Dems are Kremlin operatives.

  218. Davey Boy

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare @9.47am
    If you are being treated like a dog then you bite.

    May I respectfully suggest, you are not a dog, hence no necessity to bite.

  219. Overburdened

    While I’m at it, I reckon the reason the cohort of pricks such as Farrelly, ape man, Moore and the rest of them want to scorched earth the way of life is that they know they won’t be here to have to deal with it.

    Shame about the younger generations.

  220. MatrixTransform

    Sinc, please put up reminder signs, no entry for Kittehs after 10pm.

    1 … I thought you never spoke for all the wymynsys?
    2 … dont you hate when people point it out.
    3 … are they still drunk now?
    4 … dont you yourself just positively loath it when yr mis-represented in text.
    5 … language language language

    seriously Ms Prissy, you are being your own worst enemy.

  221. Overburdened

    MH

    All the ones that abandon ship.

  222. Infidel Tiger

    Woohoo!

    Our boy Trump is in talks to pull 4000 troops out of Afghanistan.

    The perpetual war machine is going to be furious.

    Pull them all out Don. Greatest waste of treasure and blood in human history.

  223. Digger

    OO 9:29am

    because – Clarkson rebuilt a Vietnam War-era patrol boat (PRB), the better to indulge his Apocalypse Now fantasies.

    PBR, (Patrol Boat River)… not PRB

  224. Bubbles

    I need some help.
    Once again I will have Christmas Eve with wife’s visiting moronic Sydney Lefties inflicted on me.
    PR morons, journos, chalkies, trough snufflers, lecturers etc.
    They don’t hate me, they see me as a caricature, sure in the knowledge that people like me don’t exist in real life. They admire Wife’s incredible tolerance.
    Once again I have been developing my offensive one liner repartee, but I could do with some suggestions. So far I have:
    Flossie’s tram project wen’t well didn’t it? But gee, it seems like a lot of money just for her to show off at the Dykes in Climate Christmas Shopping event in Paris.
    I read some nonsense somewhere that claimed that in the 1890’s a bunch of blokes with picks and shovels installed trams all over Sydney. Impossible of course, they didn’t have Site Traffic Controllers in the 1890’s.
    Pastor Baird banned everything except humans. But your Glad has fixed that.
    What’s it like having Gillian Triggs living in your suburb? Oops, I forgot, she lives in Paris now.
    It’s not true that Bob Carr banned fire access trails – is it?
    It’s bloody dry up here at the moment isn’t it? We were going to have a great big dam but some incomprehensible Sydney rock singer with motor neuron disease banned it.
    Iv’e been trying to develop a Mr and Mrs Photios theme but it ain’t working.

    All contributions gratefully received. The more shocking/offensive to Lefties the better. The aim is to be banned from future smarme fests.

  225. thefrollickingmole

    BorisG,

    The Momentum mob supporting Corbyn probably alienated a lot of people.
    Prone to dismissing others in the party who arent “Ooooh aaaah Jeremy Corbyn” fanbois as “tories”.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/alan-johnson-labour-momentum-jeremy-corbyn-election-results-a4312706.html

    That little clip is worth a look to see how angry some of the old “big names” are at the takeover.
    Its impossible to predict if the Pom Labour will expel momentum or vice versa.

  226. MatrixTransform

    Bonjour

    Fuck off tosser, there’s been a margin call on the stupid ideas you borrowed against.

  227. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    Even if the Natives did not burn the Australian bush, lightning would have attended to the matter (and still does.)

    Not everywhere, Mayfly.
    Long ago much of the coastal regions of SE QLD and northern NSW were a form of sub-tropical rainforest. It doesn’t burn with the ferocity of eucalypts. But repeated burning of the area by the locals weakened these forests, killing off the seedlings and saplings, and making it possible for the more tenacious eucalypts from further inland to encroach, creating the fiery hell holes we have today when it is dry and not regularly back-burned.

    This all happened long before the first white man ever set foot on this continent. Today there are only two small pockets of the original vegetation left, at Charlie Moreland and Borumba Creek parks. These are nurtured and protected from the ever encroaching eucalypts by white men and women, park rangers.

  228. JC

    I have a theory about the FBI’s involvement in the wussia hoax. It doesn’t mean they’re off the hook or anything like that because it looks like they did doctor nearly all the FISA requests. The CIA cannot make FISA requests I believe. I reckon the CIA/Brennan got the whole thing going. They sold it to the FBI as a sure thing while attempting to keep their dirty paws well away. Then, those FBI sissies are tarts ran with it because it aligned with their TDS. Those FBI idiots went for it hook line and sinker.

  229. Overburdened

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/12/14/leaked-document-shows-finland-preparing-take-back-islamic-state-members/

    I posed the question of what could go wrong with the new regime in Finland.

    This would be one thing.

  230. Peter, formerly known as Memoryvault

    What in particular is bullshit.

    All of it.

  231. mh

    Van Drew’s sprawling South Jersey district has long been a political battleground. It twice supported Barack Obama but repeatedly reelected Republican U.S. Rep. Frank LoBiondo, until LoBiondo retired. It flipped to Trump in 2016, but Van Drew won it for Democrats last year. The race for the seat was already expected to be one of the toughest in the country, and could be even more charged now.

  232. Bubbles

    Elizabeth Farrelly challenge.
    Boys.

    I know she is just an act – but Joises!

  233. Overburdened

    Bubbles

    ‘What is your alternative plan when there is no more wealth generators to feed you, you dopey fucking prick?’

  234. 8th Dan

    Not everybody loved Saturday night:

    Digger
    Overburdened

    Interesting exchange …

  235. Overburdened

    Try ‘are’.

    Sunday morning grammar failure.

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